The Toast - S5 Ep71: The Defecation Trial: Thursday, June 2nd, 2022

Episode Date: June 2, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast and happy Thursday! Hope everyone's having a great Thursday! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Hey, Jax, how you doing? I'm doing great because it's the first Thursday of June, which means that the new Redheads episode is out. So go check it out if you read the book and even if you didn't, it's actually so fun, funny, and cute. And I was editing the episode last night and at the end, before I go up to like end the recording, you can hear all of our chatter. and I actually almost left it in because it was so cute like everyone was like that was such a good one Dana's like that was so fun you should have left it in I know it just felt like so private yeah it really was such a good one and so fun and you should definitely check it out and

it's never too late to become a redhead but redheads aside we have so much to do today I'm sure that people are watching this episode and being like, wow, four legs, bear, two queens wearing outfits that they never wear. They treat this set like trash. Why do they look like goddesses today? Yeah, we treat it like our living room, which is what it is. We look like goddesses because Spritz is having such an exciting day. New flavor launches today. Right now.

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Some ASMR. It's so good. Zach poured me one on ice last night, and it was delicious. And it's safe to say this is my favorite flavor now. It has usurped grapefruit, even though the originals are so good. We love an original recipe. But it's the usurper. I'm sorry.

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fumble through so true there's so much to talk about. The Johnny Heard. The Johnny Heard trial. The Jubilee was this morning. I was watching it this morning. Me too. Premium content. It's a lot. There's so much to talk about. And I think we need to just talk about it.

Because we did talk about ourselves. The only thing that's really going on for me today is the new episode of The Redheads. Check it out. That's all I'm going to say. Because at this point, it's kind of like Canva Pro. It's like... Passion.

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Check it out. And before that. Here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. Today's episode is of course brought to you by SpritzSociety.com. Our new flavor just launched. Life's a peach for that 15% off code over $65 or more. Check it out. SpritzSociety.com. Gorgeous. Our first story is the big story of the day. Johnny Depp won his defamation case against Amber Heard he has been awarded 15 million dollars in damages combined Amber was awarded on one count she was awarded two million dollars so net 13 mil but there is a pay there is a law in Virginia that puts a cap on

punitive damages where he was awarded five million so the max she could get for that is uh 350 000 so all in all 10.35 minus the two million right so we were together watching the the verdict and when I tell you like how I gasped because whether or not like whatever side you're on it's incredibly difficult to prove defamation like it's it's like the hardest thing. So whether or not you believe Johnny, you believe Amber, like the legal feat of this was huge. And I was genuinely like beyond shocked. Yeah. I was also shocked that he was awarded so much money. I think a lot of people thought that he might win, but for a dollar, for a dollar, just to make the point that you can't run around saying things that aren't true about people. But, you know, he's not going to get the $50 million that he had wanted.

And I think he had stated previously, like, this really wasn't about money. I don't think that it was either. But so to be awarded, like, so much money and really win on all counts. She won the one count. So he was, okay, he was suing her for multiple counts about an op-ed she wrote in the Washington Post, which I want to get into in a second. Multiple counts for multiple things she said in this one op-ed and on every single count that he had sued her for he won she then countersued he basically had a lawyer release a statement to the Daily Mail so she used that as her counterclaim for defamation the

Waldman statements and there were multiple counts and only one of them the jury found to be true and they awarded her two million dollars so she did have a very, very small win. Obviously no one's talking about that because he had a magnanimous win. And the crazy part, like just from a celebrity entertainment perspective, is that he was not even there. And he was there every single day at the trial. He took the stand multiple times. And so on the final day where he was reaching a verdict, I don't know if maybe because he thought he lost I don't know what the reasoning was but he was not there it's very Kardashian's China yeah trial maybe because whether he won or lost it's hard you don't want to have your reaction shown and now he's going to go live his life his work here is done regardless of what the outcome

was he did everything that he could with the trial and it's kind of iconic that he wasn't there yeah and we're just like left to be watching her yeah and those are all the pictures that are coming out obviously her face dropped when it was just yes yes yes yes five million ten million no no like so and the camera just stayed on her the entire time yeah there was nowhere else for it to go perhaps that was what Johnny wanted I don't know um it was just a crazy thing to watch it felt historic in a way I felt like you know something like a trial where people get so invested like we'll be talking about for years to come yeah and it's something that everyone's watching and obviously like the law and crime channel on

YouTube was having a great day yesterday I'm actually today thinking of the hosts of the law and crime channel they were quick. They had so many technical difficulties. Who will never have that many, you know, that much interest There's three million

people watching only on their channel. Right, which is insane. I mean, maybe if there's another trial like this that captures the attention of the world, but, you know,

today is a quiet day for them. Yeah, and immediately upon the verdict being reached, both Johnny and Amber had statements released on their Instagram. The sentiment of Johnny's was like, I feel free. I feel like I've vindicated myself and my children and my family. I feel like I can finally start a new chapter in my life.

And Amber's was very much, you know, this verdict reinforces the stereotype that victims of abuse, women shouldn't speak up um so they were both pretty much like sticking to their stories given i mean i would hope so it's not like she's gonna now say oh never mind i didn't fool you but i mean given that a jury has weighed in on all the we always say innocent and guilty but like the jury has weighed in all of the evidence was submitted everyone made their case and seven juries of their peers decided yeah that she's a fucking liar yeah given that she's the one doing more damage to victims of domestic abuse and violence than this verdict yeah considering she's the one who lied. And up until this point, like, you know, we were believing women. Right. And now she's like making it so that we're questioning.

Yeah. I don't know. It's, um, it's very delicate in the sense that like, now that we have this verdict, what do we do with it? Like, because I think for so long, we've all been conditioned and we should believe women, like there's what about if they're lying right but there's like now legal proof that it just sets like such a bad it's such a bad example such a bad example and she's the one doing it so she can't say that like you know she's worried about women when you're the one who messed it up no and there was mountains of evidence that she was abusive. Right. So I think what we take away from this trial is, one, like, men can be victims of abuse. Two, like, we should be very, we should all be, like, cautious of what we read.

And three, like, where is the accountability on behalf of the Washington Post? And the ACLU. So a lot of people were confused as to why the trial was happening in Virginia. And the reason that is is because what Johnny was suing her over was an op-ed that she wrote in the Washington Post and the Washington Post is located in Virginia. So this whole trial was about the Washington Post and I just feel like isn't there some sort of accountability on the Washington Post to be publishing truthfulness. Right, to investigate what they're publishing. So I think it also poses like a really big question about like media and journalism, you know?

It's just kind of like this crazy trial that is like making people question a lot of things. Yeah, as it should. It really should because if he hadn't gone for it and decided that he was going to clear his name, we would have just stayed believing Amber. Put him in him in the category amber he would have been canceled i mean now let's let's see pirate six right this man has been totally like vindicated vindicated and but for six years like his life was completely upended based on what the jury has decided was a lie yeah

no it was which was not only just told by her, but then propagated by like one of the biggest newspapers in the country. Right, and then everyone else. Written by like a civil liberties union that's supposed to be defending victims. Right. No, it's a bad look for a lot of people. Yeah. No, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people are questioning a lot of things.

Yeah, as they should. As they should. You question everything, by the way. Question everything. That's what it says on the board above you know in the classroom. Totally. There's no such thing as a dumb question. Never stop asking why. So it was just like it was crazy and it's also crazy how Johnny's legal team has become like a level of celebrity. You know people were quaking. Obviously they weren't going to wait for Johnny to come out because he wasn't

there but literally waiting for like Ben Chu and Camille Vasquez to give a statement like cheering for them and Camille Vasquez is an associate and she like really became the star of the trial and like in her I do believe like she has a very bright legal career ahead of her or very bright you know publishing career when she wants to write a book about this well that's what we were talking about the jury obviously if you've been watching the trial every day you never see the jury you don't know I know they were comprised of five women five men and two women was that what I heard on law and order right law and order so it was seven people um which I found shocking because I just assume a jury is 12 angry men you know but I guess because it's a civil course case not a criminal

case it's seven um you learn something new every day but we never got to see who that was like who were the people what did they look like and so now it's kind of like how OJ after the trial every single person wrote a book. I don't think this trial is at the level that OJ was but I do think like we'll be getting some sit down interviews a GMA moment something with some of the jurors if they're into it. If they're into it which they probably are. They sat through all of this. It's hard to be a juror. We were talking about that too because they finally panned to the jury seats once the jury exited the courtroom and I was like oh my god these people have been sitting in these turnt twisted hard-ass chairs for 12 hours a day for six weeks straight like I could never be a juror like my back is in such bad shape I would need a heating pad on the

stand and I feel like that wouldn't they wouldn't let me the only thing is is like you also were listening to the same thing that they were listening to for 12 hours a day for six weeks straight. Yes, you were in your bed. But if you had just done it in that chair, like you would be set for life with another book. No. Girl with No Job, the sequel. First of all, I only started watching. The crazy, beautiful life of a juror.

I only started watching two weeks ago. And I only watched for like three hours a day. So like having the option to turn it off when it got boring, which it very frequently did with like legal stuff. I don't think I could really. And they were always like being excused. Get up. Get down. Like it was a lot.

It is a lot. Yeah. Got to figure out how to get out of jury duty. I don't know. You could end up on a case like this. Well, of course. Like if I get to jury duty and they're doing a celebrity trial, like duh, I'll think about it. But if it's, you know, termites against a landlord, like I'm not like I'm not I'm not doing it okay why I feel like you would like it you

would get so much material you would come in every day tell us regal us with your tales that's true also like you would have such interesting juror dynamics like when you guys break for lunch like what I would start a click are you going to start a click I would be sitting alone in the corner because I don't know how to talk to people. Hopefully someone would you know bring me in take me under their wing. We would need to do jury duty together. Literally. And then I would open up to the group and they would say oh my god she has such personality like we thought you were so shy and I'm like yeah that's what everyone says because I'm really shy. Yeah I'm shy. But I also do have a big personality.

I'm shy. But only once you get to know me and I feel comfortable. So this just concludes, like closes a chapter on something that I feel like we've all been so invested in. We all, I think a lot of people, like, I think most people are Team Johnny. And especially if you've been watching the trial, it was hard not to be. Yeah. And now with the verdict being what it is, even if you weren't paying attention the whole time, like they went through everything. They combed through their text messages it was so embarrassing for everyone like and he decided to open up his life like that in pursuit of clearing his name and there was

unflattering things about him beyond but overall I mean the drug use the alcohol some of his text messages like things he would just say to his friends like everyone does things in their personal life that are beyond embarrassing. And now it makes me think like I've got to clean up my act in case I ever get sued for defamation. Right. Yeah. Because your entire life becomes public.

Yeah. And before this trial, like you could not catch me caring about Johnny Depp in one way or another. Yeah. Didn't see his movies. Actually, we were talking about some of his movies yesterday. Right. Because I don't think I actively like sought out to see Johnny Depp movies,

but obviously I've seen a lot, like What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Alice in Wonderland, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Peter Pan. Yeah, a lot of Disney. I didn't even realize that. And then, of course, the Pirates movies, which I've never seen. I've never seen them, but a few weeks ago, Zach was watching one, so I caught a bit of the end.

And it was pretty good. It's like historical fiction. I'm just curious to see like where these two go from here like I don't think it'll be easy for Amber to get work um because there's so much scandal attached to her name in a negative way like her Q score they did a whole thing in the trial about Q scores um I don't think she has a high one and Johnny um I know he hasn't done movies in a while. And through the trial, you realize because opportunities were taken away from him because people believed him to be an abuser. But I don't know if he even wants to keep doing movies.

I know he's like in a band or something. He likes playing music. And that's why he wasn't even at the trial. Right. He was in the UK playing a show with his band. Yeah, exactly. Oh, he was in 21 Jump Street, the TV series. I forgot that that was a remake.

That's so random. So random. They were talking about 21 Jump Street actually in the series. I forgot that that was a remake. That's so random. So random. They were talking about 21 Jump Street actually in the trial. And I was like, what? That's really funny. It was just so interesting to hear like these cultural things like Aquaman, Pirates of the Caribbean, the show Amber did where she got paid like $200,000 an episode. It was just so crazy to see all that played out in a court of law.

You're just not used to that. No, you're really not. So that's that on that trial and it will be interesting to see what see what they each do next I can imagine a lot of people don't want to work with her because it seems like she invites drama yeah trouble trouble lies yeah so also the fact this was not publicly favorable towards her because even if Johnny had lost, still the. That's what we were saying. Yeah.

But so. The court of public opinion. The court of public opinion like had really changed in how they felt about him. Yeah. She lost. And. And then some. And then some.

Exactly. Yeah. Because I think for both of them, of course, Johnny wanted to win. But I think the way that the people watching, millions of people watching every day, started to see him in a different light was really his goal. And so just to actually win the verdict was a cherry on top of that. Because I was 100% certain he was not going to win. It's so hard.

Trust me, I've tried to sue people for defamation. Like, I want to do it every time someone says something mean about me. It's really hard. Yeah. Also, I was on Daily Mail this morning. They had a headline like it was really a trial by TikTok, they said. It was. Because the hashtag justice for Johnny or something like that has 81 billion views.

Wow. So people were really getting their information. But also, I want to say like their opinions. Yes. Their facts and their opinions. I went through like a journey on this trial because at first I was like, oh, good for Amber. Like, let's go. And then I started getting targeted with like Johnny content.

I was like, wait, are we seeing this all wrong? And then I got so much Johnny content. I had to like pull my head out of my ass and be like, I think I might be like being. Biased. Biased. Like, I think I might be like getting. What's the word I'm looking for? Propaganda. So then I just started watching the trial and like forming my own opinions and then like seeking out

other sources of information and I came to the conclusion that like I'm pretty sure um we're team I'm team team Johnny yeah and then the jury agreed with but I'm like afraid to say that you know what I mean I know but now but now that's... Because it sounds bad. Right, because you want to believe women. And this woman says that she's a victim of domestic violence. And like your heart goes out when you hear something like that because that's a natural human instinct. But she allegedly and clearly has really preyed on that instinct

from a lot of people and put this out about him knowing that it would damage him. And in turn, damage a lot of victims and survivors of domestic violence because people might feel differently about saying something because now maybe we're not just going to blanket believe women yeah no it's just it's definitely a pivotal moment in like the me too movement yeah so it's wild it was a crazy six weeks crazy also i saw a funny thing that was like it was the defecation trial I mean that's kind of I think what got people invested in the trial like the claim that's a

human being would take a shit in another human being's bed was so abhorrent so for me that was at least my first entry into knowing about what was going on between these two me too and like everything else that was embarrassing that came out, you know, drugs, alcohol, even crude text messages, shitting the bed. Is up there. Is beyond the pale. Is up there. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Some exciting news this morning as the Queen's Jubilee has kicked off the four day celebration celebrating her 70 years on the throne. celebrating her 70 years on the throne. The Queen's birthday parade at the House Guards in London was the first official Jubilee event this morning. The royal family took to the balcony to watch the planes. The immediate family stood there, then a more extended family, and of course the big question is Harry and Meghan, they were not on the balcony. They were not on the balcony, but they were there. There's one photo of Meghangan um like playing with some

kids in the background um so there's a lot to unpack here first of all it's so nice to see the family out together i really haven't seen the kids the grandkids in so long um they i know this is like how genetics works but they really look like both their parents like it's crazy like they're literally the perfect combination of both like you can see so much of William and they the two boys like have William's hair from from when he was a kid do you think and I'm hoping styling choice or that's how I think it's genetic and I'm hoping that Kate's wonderful locks will bring them through the rest of their life with thick hair okay that's what I'm thinking so it was so great to see the queen out and about looking happy and healthy knock knock wood.

And just seeing the gang back together. And then, of course, like the looming kind of cloud over this is like, what is going on with Harry and Meghan? And so they were in attendance. I know I was watching the Jubilee where the newscaster said, so they're all going for lunch now afterwards. So like there is going to be like a bit of a probably awkward family lunch because William and Charles, they haven't seen Harry. Yeah. The roy royals they're just like us no it's like it's literally like an awkward family reunion yeah that is wild I mean it's really nice to see them

all on the balcony we haven't had a moment like this in a few years and I really feel like it signifies like the end of like COVID and what the last few years have been like if you look at the crowds there's crowds as far as the eye can see and it's giving you know royal fanfare like it always has uh the Harry and Meghan thing is so interesting and I actually was just reading an article and I saw a picture and I hadn't ever thought about like what it's I think about like Meghan more because she's far more interesting but like for Harry to go back to the UK and like I saw this picture of him where he's like doesn't know how to smile because it's like you abandon these people like this country like raised you this country loves you and you kind of took a big shit on them and left and you don't even live here anymore it's

different you're talking about the people of the UK not his family the people of the UK and how he must feel like driving down the street like being like yeah because not only did he step down from royal duties which may be like if it was a toxic situation for them and it wasn't working out I can understand but like they also left the country like he's choosing not to live there he's choosing to live in Hollywood and like he just like left these people and like the country really like loves him and William and like when Diana passed away like they took care yeah like their children and he kind of is just like gave them the middle finger yes but also like how can you make decisions for your life for people you actually don't fucking know like of course but you and i couldn't

most people couldn't but i imagine that's what being a royal family like that's all you're doing your whole damn life yeah yeah now you're 30 how old is he i don't know maybe like 40 years old and you have to think differently you thought about them for 40 years yeah no like I totally get it it's there's definitely like an extremely awkward like vibe everywhere Harry and Meghan go in the UK um but you know what I'm glad they showed up for Queenie Queenie's like the one person I mean they named their daughter after her like Queenie's I think the one person who they still, you know, stomach and have respect for. So, I guess that's good.

Yeah. I don't know. It's just, it's so, like, you think your family interactions are awkward? Like, this pales in comparison. I can't even really believe that they're there. Of course it feels like, of course they're going to be there. It's the Queen and they love her. And, but remember the interview? Yeah. Like they, to me, that's like final because I understand there

are issues like in the family, but you deal with them in private. Yes. To air it means like we're done with them and that's all good and fine, but you're going back to the Jubilee now. And if you want to make a reprochement, and that was your way of putting everything out there so that we can come back from it, then everything like that needs to be done in the public. Yeah, but that's not the royal way. No, you don't just air the dirty laundry in public and then reconcile in private. Because what about us? We're just left thinking, like, what?

Yeah, totally. Even if they were to, like, apologize to the family, like, they also need to apologize publicly. yeah you know so even if they were to like apologize to the family like they also need to apologize publicly but I don't even think they're sorry I think they feel good about no I think they feel like they did what they had to do they feel justified I think for them it was like this supposed to be this clean break but you can't clean break from family no also if it's a clean break then like you don't go back for the g right no I don't really know it's's so bizarre. The, because you're right. Like to do an interview and say everything you've wanted to say means like you're done with

these people. Right. Which you're welcome to be done with them. And you're totally justified in doing like everyone is out here just protecting themselves. So then to like put on a fake face for everyone and go to the jubilee, that's confusing. Yeah. So I was confused. No, it's definitely beyond confusing. Yeah. But I think it's confusing for them, too. Like, I don't think they know where they stand. I don't think the royal family knows, like, who and Harry and Meghan hate, who they like.

Yeah. Also, Harry and Meghan are filming a reality show for Netflix. I hear a lot about, like, projects Harry and Meghan are doing that never come to fruition. Of course. Like, the Archetype podcast, never heard that it came out. archetype podcast never heard that it came out disney plus never heard that it came out netflix never heard i know she wrote a children's book and that book i did see actually get published so i don't know i can't keep up with like their never-ending list they're literally us like moguls no for sure no but we create content on a daily basis no like they created one episode for spotify

in the 20 million deal over the course of two years. Yeah. And like maybe the stuff they do does come out, but it's clearly not very popular. No, it like didn't. Nothing has come out. I know. And like the concept of reality show is kind of crazy. It's like that's a fall from grace. A hundred percent. I think they're calling it like unscripted documentary style. Kardashians. Yeah. But I think that's happening. And I think they're already filming it and the cameras were like not allowed to be around this but are they in London with it I think they might be in London but I had seen an article that like they're not these cameras are not allowed anywhere near no of course but that means on the show they're talking about like going to the Jubilee maybe

seeing William that's crazy and that's very unroyal like beyond but I get they're not active working members of the royal family so that makes sense but like the royal way has really never been William that's crazy and that's very unroyal like beyond but I get they're not active working members of the royal family so that makes sense but like the royal way has really never been to air your dirty laundry and the just the sole fact that they did that interview was so big but now they're gonna let everyone into their lives episodically like that's crazy crazy but I really would love to see more of their personalities same and their house and like what their day-to-day is like because they have a lot of money yeah but and that fascination will get people to tune in for sure but to keep people interested on a reality show it's hard it's really hard yeah I don't know if the two of them are like

boasting with personality if either one of them is it's probably Megan yeah but I don't know I think she has that you know way about her that she's very yes that's what people said like when she met Harry she's like this charming princess literally like the Ben factor she has that way about her, that she's very captivating. Yes, that's what people said when she met Harry. She's like this charming princess, literally. I think she has the Ben factor. She has the Gina Sequa. The Ben factor. James Corden, Meghan Markle. I would love to just ask them one question.

You did this huge thing. You left. You did the interview. You left everything you'd ever known behind Harry. Meghan, you met this new man. Whether your intention was to or not, it was this big PR thing. And, like, now you're settled in America. Like, I just want to ask, I'm like, is it everything you thought it would be?

Yeah. Because I, they're very low key. And to me, like, I consider, like, low key to be also, like, a little irrelevant. And they're not irrelevant. But I wonder if they, like the reaction from America, like it was everything they anticipated. I don't know. I don't know either. America does love them. Yeah.

I think that was really good. But I did expect that they would be at the Met Gala in Cannes. Right. You know, doing these things that they couldn't do before. So is that a choice? They definitely could go to the Met Gala if they wanted to. Right. So they're choosing not to do that.

Then they're choosing to do a reality show. Like, I don't. They confuse me. Like, really beyond confused. Yeah. And then, of course, they go back for this. Anyways, the next few days will be a lot of fanfare, a lot of queen-y file celebrations. And I couldn't think of a more worthy queen.

I just really couldn't. She's literally a queen. Literally. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? Oh, shit. Hold on. Her cards.

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ago, she launched KKW Beauty, and now it has rebranded to Skin by Kim. She said, I'm excited to finally introduce you to Skin by Kim, a rejuvenating nine-product skincare ritual that I have developed from start to privilege. Start to privilege. Start to finish. I've been so privileged to learn about skin and skincare over the years from the world's top dermatologists and estheticians, and every bottle for my new line is filled with the knowledge I've accumulated along the way.

You know what it's giving? It's giving J-Lo beauty. J-Lo literally said the same thing. Like I have worked with like the most amazing dermatologist. Like I can do this. And it was Flop Central. What was the price point of JLo Beauty? Pretty high.

Okay. Because that's what skin is. And I feel two ways about this as I do most things. Because on the one hand, like really Kim Kardashian is not aging. She's 41 years old. Did you see, I mean you did see last week on the kardashians when she was doing the vogue try-ons and she's not wearing any makeup and she looks like a kid she looks 27 she looks amazing 31 without makeup she looks even younger

than with makeup and so obviously like whatever she's doing needs to be bottled and sold for the rest of us i'm just not convinced that this is exactly what she's using. And I'm also not convinced what she's doing is exclusively skincare. Like everyone gets Botox. Right. No, no. But like, I'm sure maybe these products are probably good and it seems like they're expensive. She's using high quality ingredients and sourcing.

And that's what she said. That's why the price point is high. So it's better than her trying to come in with like an affordable skincare line and being like, this is what I use. Well, that would be like Kylie Skin. Right. But Kylie Skin. Right. But Kylie has young skin. And we said that when she launched.

So the thing is, is like where I disagree with you is like Kim is aging amazingly in an unnatural way. Like the way Kim is aging is obviously due to, I'm sure she takes care of her skin. She stays out of the sun. But it's also the immense, you know, resources she has in plastic surgery and dermatology and all that stuff. She's not aging. She's not aging. So like for me me it's like if I really wanted to buy skincare from someone who was like aging really well like I would buy like goop skincare like Gwyneth Paltrow looks amazing for her age you know she doesn't look 25 she looks like a grown woman who looks incredible you know so like like I'll probably buy it and I love Kim and this is no slight against her but like

first of all I don't really feel like she needs another business venture like first of all people are literally quaking on TikTok like bring KKW Beauty back her lip liners are like some of the most popular lip liners so it's like where is it she went to relaunch and never came back Skims is so unbelievably popular and I just feel like she got to a place like years ago where she was doing all these random business ventures like Kimoji and it didn't make sense for her brand and then she got to an amazing place a few years ago with the fragrances beauty and skims and it's like can't that be enough yeah because and you actually said something really smart like it yesterday you were like I would have loved if she had done this in partnership with Dr. Simon Orion like one of the amazing

plastic surgeons so you would feel like a little bit more believable believable I don't know and I think the branding is great I love the name I'll definitely try it believable I don't know and I think the branding is great I love the name I'll definitely try it but like I don't know it's giving JLo beauty it's just like it's another skin it's another celebrity makeup slash skincare line that I don't feel like is gonna you know change the industry right whereas she already has cornered many markets many and I guess she wants to corner another and I do think as far as what approach she could have taken this is the best one but I don't know I was just thinking yesterday about how like when I saw this I was like it's just one after the other we know road skincare is coming out from Hailey Bieber that I think is like super

on brand she has young fresh amazing skin I I will be first in line to buy road skincare like dead serious um but it's just making me think how like you know a lot of these cosmetic companies because like it's this big bubble and it's like starting to burst you know Becca Cosmetics is like completely discontinued for life there's just like a lot of new brands coming out that are backed by celebrities and how like the skincare and beauty industry is like really becoming like a celebrity brand um market but like if you if you're not good enough like just because you're a celebrity doesn't mean you won't flop like I I don't know. I feel like a lot of these celebrity ventures flop. Like even Lady Gaga's makeup is rebranding.

It's rebranding from Amazon to, it was backed by Amazon and now it's backed by, I was just watching a TikTok. Sephora? Yes, they went to Sephora. Okay. So I think in the celebrity makeup category, Fenty Beauty and Rare Beauty are the top two. And Kylie Cosmetics. And Kylie Cosmetics. Fenty Beauty and Rare Beauty are the top two.

And Kylie Cosmetics. And Kylie Cosmetics. And then there's also an interesting category where like celebrity makeup artist brands become like that's Pat McGrath. That's Charlotte Tilbury. That's Makeup by Mario, which is really popular. But then there's like this like cash grab. Yeah. So and I think that's like R.E.M. Beauty from Ariana Grande.

It's House Laboratories. It's Halsey's line. It's Kesha's line. It's like it's kind of even though some of her products I've that's like R.E.M. Beauty from Ariana Grande. It's House Laboratories. It's Halsey's line. It's Kesha's line. It's like, it's kind of, even though some of her products I've heard are really good. Alicia Keys skincare. Like, I haven't heard a lot about it. JLo Beauty, Flop Central. Like, it's just like.

I didn't even know some of these people had makeup. I know. And it's like, it's too late. No, and it is a cash grab. And at a certain point, especially with skincare, I want the real, I want the scientists. Yeah. You know, because the celebrities or the talent like they have their day jobs like they're not in the lab thinking about how to neutralize my redness she should have really done a partnership with Simon Orion like just giving him a million

dollars or like a small stake in the company just so people could believe that like this is what her and her dermatologist and plastic surgeon all use yeah I just don't think we need this honestly yeah I and since it is expensive it's not something I'll just like try to let you guys know, you know? Yeah. And it is 9-step. And if I'm going to try it, I'm going for all nine. No, and if I'm buying. I want the full Monty.

If I'm spending $1,000 on skincare, like your ass, you bet your ass I'm buying La Mer. You bet your ass. So, I don't know. So, here's what the nine things are. A cleanser, toner, exfoliiator hyaluronic acid serum vitamin c serum face cream eye cream oil drops and night oil and can i just say it's like the second time she's like doing something that kylie's done and she's like the second one to do it you know yeah but i do think in differentiating her price point and her offering yeah she's

separating herself more from kylie where it's like kKW Beauty and Kylie Cosmetics were the same. Same factory, like. Yeah. Same formulas. Yeah. So I don't know. I just feel like she doesn't need this. I feel like she doesn't need this.

Like between being a lawyer, between skims, between fragrances, between relaunching beauty, the new show, I feel like she really does not need to do this. Yeah. That's how I felt too. But the aesthetics on point, she's doing interviews. It looks like her bathroom so if you want that vibe like I like the Kylie cosmetic the Kylie skin vibe even though

I don't really use a lot of Kylie skin products I bought it and like used it but never replenished but I leave them in my bathroom because I like how they look yeah they're cute packaging is cute but like this aesthetic is cool but it's not it doesn't match my job so that's that on that we'll keep you posted if either one of us tries it out but i am very interested i would try it for sure give it a shot maybe we'll get pr not after this episode but it's so terrible these days it's gorgeous no i'm in a rough place with my skin so maybe it is time for me to switch it up are you ready for our next story which really slipped under the radar but jada Pinkett Smith addressed the Oscar slap

on Red Table Talk. Oh my that totally slipped through the radar I didn't even read the story. Yeah she said my hope is that Will Smith and Chris Rock will reconcile. Jada Pinkett Smith is reflecting on the relationship between Will and Chris two months after Will struck the comedian in the face at the 2022 Academy Awards. At the beginning of Wednesday's Red Table Talk Jada said into the camera, about Oscar night, my deepest hope is that these two intelligent, capable men have an opportunity to heal, talk this out, and reconcile. With the state of the world today, we need them both,

and we all actually need one another more than ever. I mean, I agree with that sentiment, but not in this scenario. Like, I'm just at a place with Will Smith and Jada where, like, I really don't want to talk about them anymore. Like, I'm about to China them. Because even before the slap where, like, I really don't want to talk about them anymore. Like, I'm about to China them. Because even before the slap. I feel like we, like, stopped talking about them really quick.

Because even before the slap, like, they were just doing too much. You know, like, airing their really personal dirty laundry about their marriage and their family and the entanglement. And it was, like, a lot for people. And I think people were already over them. And then the slap happened. And we were like, we're done. So. You're done.

I don't know. Like, I think they waited too long to respond and now like I don't even know what they could have said to make me think that like what he did was even slightly okay because I don't think it was okay so no nothing they say could really make this better and I think they probably know that which is why this was like sneaky under the radar statement yeah I agree with that like my mind is made up about all of this yeah like I'm not gonna change the way that I feel but what's crazy is that for so long like Red Table Talk and Jada were the voice of reason

and you know you would go and have these conversations and like if Jada was on your side we're all on your side and after the slap situation you just look at them look at it differently differently no and I don't think it going to be the go-to place anymore. No, and the show was so good, like, conceptually. It was so simple. You bring it to the table. It was so simple. Like, you know, three generations talking about it at the table

and then moving on from it. And I think that, like, what it did for their family was amazing because I think it really made people respect them and think they were really smart. And I watched many episodes, obviously, Jordan Woods, Olivia Jade. think they were really smart and I watched many episodes obviously Jordan Woods Olivia Jade um and they just felt like they were like really um like stable you know and then with the entanglement everyone just I mean at least me and I think a lot of the sentiment was like eye rolling like keep some things to yourself for sure but even still with the entanglement it was like tea worthy

but it's still I was still like okay the red table is where you're going to bring it, dish it and move on from it. But after the slap, again, beyond the pale. Yeah. This is, it's too much. So I'm just like, I'm needing a break from them, you know? And I'm just waiting for, I don't, I don't want to make my decision until I hear from Chris Rock. We still haven't heard from Chris Rock. Right. And that's who we're waiting to hear from. Right. Not Jaden. The person who was slapped. Right. The slappy, not the slapper. Our fifth and final story, some exciting bed-bed news.

Heidi Montag is pregnant, expecting her second baby with Spencer Pratt. She told Us Weekly on Wednesday, I couldn't be more excited. I don't know who I'm the most excited for, myself or Gunnar or Spencer. Gunnar is their four-year-old son. This is really exciting because if you watched the last season of The Hills, they were really trying very much to get pregnant

and now it has happened and that's really sweet for their little family. Yeah, I only watched the first season of The Hills and they were talking about it then so I imagine it took them a while to get pregnant

so you just love to see a happy the fruits of your labor. Happy news. Yeah, Mazel Tov to them. Mazel Tov to the Montag Pratt family. And Mazel Tov to us for launching our new Peach to the Montag Pratt family. And Mazel Tov to us for launching our new Peach. That is where we're headed out. We are headed now

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