The Toast - S5 Ep85: Toast Tunes with Jill Zarin: Wednesday, June 29th, 2022

Episode Date: June 29, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast and happy Wednesday! Hope everyone's having an amazing hump day! Let's get the Streis brothers out to celebrate hump day. We have our pillows. The Streis bros are here in spirit. They're actually extremely busy today packing for an amazing weekend out east. They are so excited because they're such Hamptons girlies. Brassens Strassen, Brassens Strassen, Brassens Strassen, Brassens Strassen, Brassens Strassen,. Bryson Strassen, Bryson Strassen, Bryson Strassen, Bryson Strassen, Bryson Strassen, Bryson Strassen, Bryson Strassen, Bryson Strassen, Bryson Strassen. You know Bryson Strassen is kind of the song that never ends. I was just thinking that. When do you end it? The thing about me is like when I learned that song, I never unlearned it and I will never, I will be singing that song well into my 90s this is the people know that song okay I think everybody knows that song I think everyone is really hoping that

you don't start it because I don't think there's a more annoying song or anything out there and I really think it'll be harmful for your brand if you start singing that song I just feel like there might be people who don't know what song I'm talking about. I'll sing it once, okay? No, no, no. I personally, like, I'm boycotting this. This is the song that never ends. It just goes on and on, my friend. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was, but they'll continue singing it forever just because this is the song that, and then it goes on and on and on. And don't lie, I saw your shoulder shaking a little that song has a way with no I can't I honestly I can't talk about this song like I just I hate it so much oh my god I love it you did a nice rendition I'll give that to you but like I need to move on from this song I think I have trauma why because it's so annoying it's gorgeous like

for me the concept of a song that doesn't end, heaven. Let us know what you think. Are you pro or con? Yeah. Everyone's going to be con, but that's because they don't know anything. They don't know shit about fuck, as you would say. Put it in the swear jar. No, bitch.

That's your thing. You owe me like $1.25. Okay. No, I owe baby to baby $1.25. I'll send it. Don't worry. I'll make sure the money gets there. Oh, sure. She's going to run a Ponzi. I'll send it. Don't worry. I'll make sure the money gets there. Oh, sure.

She's going to run a Ponzi scheme through my swear jar. By a purse. Today is Wednesday, which means a multitude of things. The first thing it means is that our live show, Breaking Bread, our Spotify original, has a new episode coming out tonight. We will be live from 7 p.m. Eastern time to 8 p.m. Eastern time. You can listen live on the Spotify app or if you want to download the Spotify live app, make a username, join the chat, get pulled on stage.

That'll be really fun. It also means that we have deer toasters today, which I'm super excited about because I read through them. And the last one is truly a doozy. Like, I don't know if we're going to be able to give proper guidance because it's truly a conundrum. I think you need to make that the first one because sometimes by the third one, I'm still thinking about the first two and I can't wrap my head around it. That's just a little secretrum. I think you need to make that the first one because sometimes by the third one, I'm still thinking about the first two

and I can't wrap my head around it. Jagging. That's just a little secret, a trick of the trade. Done. Wow, you're so... Efficient. What's the word? Accommodating.

It's a pleasure. Today's episode is also really special because at the end of the podcast, we have an interview with Jill Zarin talking Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. The video's also on YouTube, so check that out and just sit back, relax and enjoy the power of the toast. You know, by the time you're done listening to this episode, it's basically July 4th weekend for you guys. 100%. Would you say that we have a great show for them today?

Do you want me to say that? Like, are you ready to start? No, no. I feel like there's so much more to be said. Actually, I literally every day it's like when we do this show but just my days in general like when I'm done with the day I never think about it again like I don't know what I did yesterday every day I like sit here I'm like what did I do that I wanted to share idk you know I think that's part of survival like leaving things in the past yeah but yesterday we did record the redheads episode about girls with bright futures and Claudia joined I did Jackie we were facetiming and she was like I'm gonna go record the Redheads episode about Girls with Bright Futures and Claudia joined. I did Jackie we were FaceTiming and she was like I'm gonna go record the Redheads like she was sitting at her desk with her microphone and I'm like should I make this about me and I definitely did you know I think that four people is the most amount of people you really can and should have them on a podcast. And

to add a fifth who's no wallflower. Right like definitely I think Dana was you know most affected by my presence because she probably gets gets sidelined most of the time because she's not shy, but she's not as loud as everyone else. I definitely think it was a really fun thing that I shouldn't do again because it is too many people. Yeah, it was, but we had a really good time and one more opinion. And Claudia actually took a stance that no one else had, so I'm glad you added value to the conversation.

Yeah, justice for Kelly. Justice for Kelly. Also, what's crazy is that this is already my sixth podcast i'm doing this week and it's only wednesday morning wow that's insane isn't that insane i'm going to do one more after this for you because you did redheads yes and we're yeah by tonight it'll be seven no no tonight we have seven and eight seven we're recording after this for patreon and then breaking bread and breaking bread is eight eight podcasts in three days podcast podcast podcast they never sleep we're giving you content all weekend you guys so you if you're on a trip and a share house with people that you don't know

because you're with your partner's friends like listen to the toast we're here for you that's why like whenever i see like any people i follow have podcasts and most podcasts are weekly and they're like oh i have to actually do it tomorrow like what like if they're always saying I'm gonna do it on Monday and it's like actually I'm gonna come out on Tuesday this week what were you doing and that's not to say like recording a 60-minute podcast isn't a lot of work it is but like literally what are you doing when a person has seven days and they need an eighth day you know like you're you're always doing people always are like I'm gonna do every Monday every Monday but more often than not they're like actually this week I'm gonna do Tuesday yeah it's likely, we're doing a podcast in three days.

But then again, that's why we're titans in our industry. Right. That's why we're number five on the comedy charts right now when we have two episodes in the top 10. Yes.

I saw that this morning. I actually screenshotted it and I was like, I'm going to post it to my story because I was feeling hashtag proud. As you should, bitch. As you should. I think I will.

I like never brag on myself unless it's like I'm reposting someone else, you know. Unless someone else is doing it for you. Right. But like even the number two on Spotify's like I'm reposting someone else, you know? Unless someone else is doing it for you. Right. But like even the number two on Spotify thing, I didn't see until someone put it in Toast After Dark.

Though I do look at the charts. I just, I never even thought, we're never on the Spotify charts ever because like most people listen on Apple podcasts. So I don't even go there because it's a little depressing and it feels like we're being shadow banned. Yeah. Irrelevant girlies. No, but we're just irrelevant.

Yeah, no, but, and that's, you know, there is comfort in being irrelevant. 100%. So, you know, I think part of this job is, like, it comes in waves. Like, a lot of people are talking about you, and then, like, there's a lull. And when you're in a lull, you're like, oh, my God, like, my life is over.

Like, at least for me. Like, that's how I feel. I'm like, I'm depressed. No one's talking about me. And then, like, a peak will come. And even if people are talking about you, it's always going to be good and bad. Of course.

So then I'm in a peak, and I'm like,, shit, like I would long for the days of being irrelevant. Right, right, right, right. Like just quiet out the noise. Right. That's just like the mental health roller coaster of being a podcaster. And an influencer. And we speak on behalf of influencers. Everywhere.

Like we're kind of the voice for the influencers. So it's actually so funny. I said after Monday's episode, I got so many messages from influencers like thanking me for my tirade justice for influencers. Yesterday, I got so many messages from influencers, like, thanking me for my tirade justice for influencers. Yesterday, I got so many messages from Tuesday's episode being like, why do I feel like the influencer you were talking about who you, like, hate follow is me? I'm like, no. Oh, really? Yeah.

I'm like, really, if I follow you, like, I love you. I don't follow people I hate. Right. Can you tell us, like, who thought it was them? Just some talkers, some, like, people, like, that I'm friends with. I think they were, like, joking. But, like, I think they were messaging me to find out who the influencer was, but I will take the secret to my grave.

I love that for you. To my grave. And as will I. I know. Steal traps. And that's what's so important about being in business with your sister. Yeah. Because if you were just like my friend, you wouldn't really like, you would, you would

keep the secret, but like if someone pressed you and like you were drinking, like you would say it, but you're bound by blood by that secret. And I don't have a lot of secrets. And I don't drink. drink right and I don't have a lot of secrets do you no no I think like secrets for one it's tough to have it's important to have like personal like things and thoughts whatever but it's like they say secrets keep you sick and if you can talk about something like it already ends the burden that's true so that's my philosophy I like that and I try to like if there's something going on that's maybe a secret like I definitely tell like you yeah yeah yeah mom and like our family yeah yeah I don't have secrets from like my close close

circle yeah you don't you don't no I don't I'm really like an open book I should probably keep more secrets close it up close your legs to married men close my book to married men. Well we have a great show and I'm ready to start if you are. I guess so. How's Harry? He's good thank you for asking. He's just a sweet little nugget. Dreaming of Auntie? Dreaming of Auntie. You know he really loves you so much. You know what I'm dreaming of? Like spending like four days uninterrupted in the same house as Harry. Like that is gonna be like so special. You know when he like got all of these clothes for the 4th of July. He's such a patriot. Like he loves his country and he's really going to be in theme all weekend.

It's going to be really special. You guys like, I cannot wait. And I've, I've spent like uninterrupted time not to like pit niece against nephew, but like my only experience, but my only experience like with children is of course, Michaela,

like my first everything was with Michaela. And it was amazing. You never forget your first. You never forget your first. But Michaela did and does hate me with a deep, fiery passion. And I get it. I'm super annoying. And I guess she doesn't want to be entertained all the time.

She'd rather hang out with her friends or watch TV or play with her toys. But there's something about Harry that he is obsessed with my annoying energy. And to have that energy received is so fulfilling. Like I really can't put into words like what that's like. Like Harry would love the song that never ends. Done. He would love it. He's like, it never ends. Sign me up.

Sign me up. And Harry, like I swear, like I always sing to children cause that's like my talent. Um, most kids like Michaela would just like look the other way Harry eye contact smile giggle thinks it's the best thing he's obviously like a true I feel like he's gonna grow up to be a connoisseur of the arts I think he's gonna grow up to be a talent agent like he sees talent he knows what's good that's so true we should get him a job also be like a film critic like Ebert and Roper oh my god I could totally see him on the back of taxi tv sandy Canyon with the Eyewitness News

movie Minute. But he would just think everything was so amazing. No, no. What are you trying to say? No, like he loves everything. He loves entertainment. No, I think if someone was singing poorly, he wouldn't smile. Why?

I sing and he loves it. But you're his mom. Like he heard your voice in utero. Like he knows you. That's true. Me. Actually, you know, somebody did say something in our toast after dark patreon group that i thought was really poignant because we were talking maybe

on a patreon just about how like obviously i'm harry's favorite auntie truly by default because i spend the most time with him um but we definitely have this connection and someone was like you know you sat here for nine months pregnant sitting with me for an hour every day i talk like 75 percent of the time. Like Harry definitely knows my voice. I saw that. Then when he came out of the womb, he was like, oh, that's that bitch. That's my bitch. Yeah. That's my morning toast girly. I like that theory. Me too. And I think it's totally possible. I think so too. Makes you think. Makes you think. Maybe I got to go like sing around all the pregnant people I know. It's just when their babies come out, we have a

connection. You find favor in their eyes. Yeah, right. Definitely. You know those machines that, like, you put, like, two things on the belly, and then there's wires connected to a microphone? Yeah. First of all, when I'm pregnant, I will be purchasing one of those. And second of all, I'm going to purchase one now, like, to go around to all the pregnant people I know and just, like, serenade their children. Love that for you.

You're welcome. You can start a business. I just realized I haven't eaten a thing, like, all day. My stomach was making crazy noise. All day. It's not 4 p.m. It's start a business. I just realized I haven't eaten a thing like all day. My stomach was making crazy noise all day. It's not 4 p.m. It's literally 9 a.m. Okay, well, when you wake up early, it's like late in the day. Would you like some of my 5-1-1 bar?

No, because we're doing so well on the charts and I don't want to ruin things. Yeah, no, no chewing. So I'll starve. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Should we dive in? Now I feel ready to dive in. So without further ado, where are you?

Come back to the toast. Do it again. Doo doo doo doo doo. Where are you? Why are you changing the melody? Why can't I improv? It's only okay when you do it? Yes. Doo doo doo doo doo. Where are you? Come back to your auntie. Come back to your auntie. Come back to your welcome. Come back to Bryson Streisand. Bryson Streisand. Bryson Streisand. We need to release an EP. Of all the Toast jingles. And by the way, that would be an amazing album for kids. Okay, so let's say how many songs? Maybe like six to eight minimum to be on an EP. Bryson Streisand, obviously.

Do do do. Do do do do do Dora. Do do do do do Dora. Do do do do do Dora. Dora the Explorer. Perfect angel Dora. Love of my life Dora. Sweet kisses Dora.

Crunchy lips Dora. Sweetest fur Dora That's actually the song that ever ends Oh that is okay Final story Yes Wait we have more Well we have some other ones

Snitch on the toast Oh snitch on the toast but I'm bum You were singing Like we have some personal songs that we sing I don't know if we would include those Like when you sing like Roxanne Little, Little Harry. Little Harry.

That's such a good song. So we can maybe add that like in the bonus Patreon. Oh, welcome to the morning toast. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, to the morning toast. We probably have to get like copyright, like licensing for that from She's the Man. Yeah, but there's one other song. Oh, and then also

sometimes what was the new Bryce one Bryce and Strass and Bryce and Strass no there was one member you got it oh first of all Bruna Bruna Bruna Bruna Bruna Bruna Bruna Bruna Bruna Bruna and also Thuma Thuma Thuma Thuma no that would be one song like one verse Bruna one Bruna, Bruna. And also, Thuma. Thuma, Thuma, Thuma. No, that would be one song. One verse Bruna, one verse Thuma. But there was the one... Bruna brine, a brine, a brune. Bruna brine, a brine, a brune.

It's a Bruno. You know who we need to tap for this? First of all, we actually, if we do it, we need serious people. And you know who? So, you know Jackie Schimel's husband. Could you see us in the studio? I could see us by the way Jackie Schimel's husband is like a big music producer he worked on like one of my favorite One Direction songs she told me once and whenever she does anything like musically like he does it for her like in their office

like we need that we do like my god if Ben could just like work in music we need to go to the studio lay down some tracks yeah and like upload that we also are in the studio yeah no but this is not the right as someone who's recorded two um flop songs you need like a real studio and if anyone out here is like friendly with or you yourselves are like a music producer who can like do i don't want like a producer i need everyone to do the whole thing you know lay the tracks we can write the lyrics and of course perform them but like yeah i think if we came up with like a children's ep it would be so popular agreed and now that we're saying this like people are going to come out of the woodwork with songs that we have like we also have i just

like for um dna test turns out i'm a hundred percent russian oh yeah when i'm fleeing countries yeah i've got heart problems that's a puppy in me bling bling then i solve them that's a doctor in me should have had a bad tigs just a little we'll work on it yeah well yeah they'll be like the rap this is kids bop what is the ep gonna be called toast tunes oh my god bitch i was literally gonna say that this it's just writing itself okay we need we're always like saying things we're gonna do and never do them but literally kids bopz Bop. It should be called Toast Bop. And the thing is, it's fun for all ages. Moms and kids alike.

Kid tested, mother approved. I think people are going to love this. Yeah, we just have to do it. Yeah. Wow, I'd love that for us. Yeah, me too. And we have a relationship with Spotify, so they have to put it on the new releases page. On New Music Friday.

Obviously. We need Bryson Stratton on New Music Friday and I won't settle for anything less. For every Friday in perpetuity. Yeah. Because it's Strattay. Strattay. Gotta get down on Strattay. Very good.

Okay. Now, without further ado, it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. Today's episode is brought to you by Peloton. Peloton has a team of world-class instructors ready to motivate you 24-7. Peloton instructors are highly trained fitness pros who motivate you through every workout, whether you're a regular mom at the gym or someone who is new and getting back into working out. Whatever your fitness level is, Peloton instructors don't just teach, they motivate. They have thousands of live and on-demand classes so you can keep it fresh

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So visit onepeloton.com to learn more. Great. Thank you so much. Our first story, a little justice news, but it's lacking in justice as well. Okay. Ghislaine Maxwell the accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein has been sentenced to 20 years in prison for sex trafficking bye peace out what's the injustice the injustice is that she's sentenced for sex trafficking but

who was she trafficking to right like how can you be like sentenced for a crime of like you know helping facilitate sex trafficking and rape and abuse, but who were your clients? Your clients and the rapist. Yeah, no, I think there's something like that feels unfulfilling about this Ghislaine Maxwell story. Like we've been so focused on it. And now that we got the verdict, it's like, that's great. Not one name. Not one client.

She's the one person who went down. Like it's so bizarre. No, but like how can you be like on a solo mission of sex trafficking like was she the one doing like trafficking them for herself well maybe she didn't sing for her supper and that's why she got a heavy sentence like if she had given names she probably could have gotten like four or five years no uh i don't know if it's that or it's just like the media covering up like these big wigs. No, it would have come out. It would have come out.

Why? Her trial was like. No, if she had said. It wasn't in the trial. No, and then those people would be prosecuted. We would know if she said any names. And her sentence would be much less. I don't think it was because she's a good friend.

I don't think she's a good friend. I think probably like her family will be taking care of like something, you know? Yeah. It's just. It's like sometimes I hate to sound like's a good friend. I think probably like her family will be taking care of like something, you know? Yeah. It's just. It's like sometimes I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but when it comes to Ghislaine and Jeffrey, like there's no way you can't be a conspiracy theorist. Like it's not conspiracy. This is straight facts. She did this whole sex trafficking ring.

Who was on the plane? Who was at the island? Like those people are. Right. Need to go down. Like even the. What's his name? Prince Andrews. Like even the. What's his name? Prince Andrews.

Yeah. Like. Where's the justice? That's so true. No it feels incomplete. This story. And while we love. Queen Ghislaine.

It feels like. Like theater. You know it's like. Here. Performative. Yeah like this person. It's over. Done with.

Place is closed. Justice has been served. And it's like. But what about the whole ring? Yeah. This was a major operation. That's a really good call. And what about the fact that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself like what about all that I know and I I know we've all moved on like from that time period where like literally

the word out of everyone's mouth was Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself the name on everyone's lips right but we need to get back to that because like literally he didn't kill himself question mark yeah question mark so every time like the story resurfaces they could be telling me like a glaine maxwell will be paying for the rest of her life for what she did but it's like it's just not enough and i just want to say if glaine maxwell turns up quote unquote dead in prison meaning she like fled the country and is living the life of riley in like antarctica um i will have questions antarctica is beautiful this time of year and it's really the place Where you go to live

The life of Riley Well it has to be One of those countries That doesn't have extradition Right is that the word Yes Like where a criminal Can live and they don't

Have to send them Back to the states Yes but that would mean That like we know That that's where they are Yeah You know I think If she fled

It wouldn't be like Send her back Well like if she did Protect the most powerful People in the world Like in exchange They could get her Out of prison into a safe house. Like, she could live in a palace in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah, by the sea. By the sea. Yeah. Sounds nice. Mm-hmm. They could rebuy the island for her, and she can go live there. Oh. It's on sale.

Literally. So, Galani, from the bottom of my toes to the top of my fucking scalp. Fuck you. Is that a TikTok sound? Yeah, Tana Mongeau. Gotta get Tana on the podcast. Got to. There's like a couple people who I just feel like if we say their names, like, we'll get them on. But like people I really do want to interview,

Tana Mongeau being one of them. Yeah. So many questions. I've become such a big fan of hers over the years. She's so funny and like I don't really watch her content or anything but like I do like her and I do think like as a big time loser move, I did like slide into her DMs recently and just like respond to one of her stories like lol ha you know maybe it made you lol haha it did that's why I'm a genuine person I sometimes do that to people because like you

should know that I that it was lol haha yeah when someone like reached out to me and it was like lol and it's like you know fellow influencer I'm like I made you laugh yeah no and then if like I I messaged someone who I've never spoken to before and I see that they've messaged me previously, like responding to a story or something, I'm like, oh my God, we are friends. Right. Did she follow you, Tana? No.

Oh. Yeah. So that was. You've got to work on that. That was sad. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

I am. Some very scary news. Travis Barker was rushed to the hospital in an ambulance with Courtney by his side. On Tuesday afternoon, Travis Barker was rushed to the hospital. The drummer was photographed lying on a stretcher outside Cedar Sinai Medical Center in LA while the Kardashian star followed on foot. The musician was seen being wheeled out of the ambulance while holding his right hand up, which showed his unmistakable skull tattoo. Courtney, for her part, was seen only from the back. She was in an all-black ensemble and had her hoodie up over her head. The reality Star security team followed closely behind in a black Range Rover,

tailing the ambulance as they arrived at the hospital. Both vehicles apparently entered through the wrong area and were redirected by hospital personnel to a different entrance. Right after the story made headlines, Travis' 16-year-old daughter posted, please send your prayers. And also in the midst of this medical emergency, Travis tweeted, God save me at 10.45 a.m. It also is worth noting, it is the name of his song with Machine Gun Kelly.

Yeah, and I thought it was before. But the timing is eerie. I thought it was before he was photographed at the hospital. It was at 10.45 a.m. And I think, well, that's. And it was the afternoon he was rushed okay so maybe it's just like weird coincidence yeah um and then he was i think supposed to perform with mgk and his son landon stepped in which is cool obviously not under these circumstances and they haven't told

us like what's going on i just feel like if you go to the hospital in an ambulance like there's something really bad like yeah because a lot of people like if you go to the hospital like someone can drive you and i think obviously not for the k a lot of people, like if you go to the hospital, like someone can drive you. And I think obviously not for the Kardashians, but most people don't go to the hospital in an ambulance because it's so expensive. But like if you're in an ambulance, that's like dire need of care immediately. Yeah.

So I'm like really concerned. Me too. And obviously like they don't owe us an explanation. Like medical privacy is a thing. But like I'm beyond curious like what's going on. Of course. I agree. Curious.

Respect their privacy. Yeah. Hope he's okay. Like hopefully it's just you know appendix. Also like Alabama saying please send your prayers cry emoji is like really sad. Scary. Yeah. I wonder what's going on.

You think it has anything to do with his arm? If his arm was like up in the photographs even though that could mean nothing. I don't think so. It looks like he like it looks like an okay arm. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what like maybe they make you keep your arms up right but they're like so healthy you know like the cleanses and they're

vegan right so I wonder yeah sending prayers truly that's so scary yeah Courtney must be bugging I feel like she doesn't do well under like in a crisis you think yeah yeah I could see that so I'm just like you never know until you're tested yeah yeah that's true actually do you think I think you do well in a crisis I'm like full fucking panic the world is burning yeah shred the files like um I am the worst in a panic situation if the if the crisis is about me if it's about someone else I think I'm extremely rational honestly I think because I don't care I'm really good in the crisis one because that's just like my nature but two I don't realize something's a big deal until way after it happens yeah whether it's good or bad you know yes I agree

with that assessment so that way so I see something I'm like okay and then it's like later I'm like girl yeah no I'll see something and always think it's a bigger deal than it is. Oh, yeah. Like a drama queen. Yeah, like, yeah, that's. You know who the worst person in a crisis is? Ben Suffer. The worst person in a crisis.

Like, you think I'm bad? He's so dramatic. Like, let's go to the greatest lengths. Like, the thing you would do is the last resort. He's like, yeah, let's do it first. He's just not good in a crisis. That's so funny yeah and he should be because he's the oldest kid in his family and like you have to have like a sense of like calm and you know like Olivia's very yeah Olivia's a little drama yeah Olivia's not drama but Olivia just like talks in hyperbole exclusively yeah yeah

and she'll admit that to you yeah but i wouldn't say like no and some olivia someone that you want to go to like when you have to clean up your mess and like she'll help you like she'll get the shovel and she'll help you bury the body and she'll never say a word about it no but she will be very exaggerated yeah she was like so we were in this forest yeah it was literally a thousand degrees we had to walk 200 meters Olivia loves to exaggerate with like numbers yeah 200 packs of gum oh my god that's what I was just gonna say can you remind me of that story that's by the way so in our family Olivia probably hates it but we're always saying like she's an exaggerator and it started with this one story it's just like this story was

emblematic of how she exaggerates I don't remember the, but loosely I remember that like we were on vacation. We were on vacation. We were going to Walgreens. We were old enough to like go to the pharmacy for ourselves. And we bought like what we wanted. Maybe you bought a pack of gum and I bought a pack of gum. And somehow when we got home, like we were all fighting and she was like, well, you guys were the ones who needed to go and buy 200 packs of gum.

And she ratted us out. Like, yeah, she was like, they literally bought 200 packs of gum. We're like, what? And back, like, as the oldest, like, Olivia's word is gospel. Right. Like, we could fight and argue and have proof. Look, there's just two packs. Doesn't matter because Olivia is the oldest.

It's as if we chewed 198 packs. On the way home. So it's like, Olivia's word is gospel. And like, it was so frustrating as a kid because, like, you can't argue because Olivia is the oldest. When we went to the Walgreens, she was in charge. Right. So maybe like we didn't get something that we needed to get.

Cause we spent the money buying 200 packs of gum. Like, oh my God, I totally forgot about that. And she fucking ratted us out. Like we didn't even do anything. We just wanted gum. Yeah. 200 packs though. Yeah.

I can't, that's so ill of it she's gonna kill us okay our next story the ships are sinking you guys and anna kendrick and bill hater have broken up we should add them to our list maybe not anna kendrick but bill hater for sure yeah bill hater for sure and anna kendrick who used to date? You know who she always reminds me of? Who? Rachel Wilson? Kat Dennings. Oh, Kat Dennings used to date Josh Groban.

That's why you love Kat Dennings. Add Josh Groban to the list. Kat Dennings. Can't think of anyone more eligible. Kat Dennings unfollowed me on Instagram, even though we've, like, had DM'd a couple times, like, exchanging, like, replies. I thought it was, like, incredibly hurtful. Damn. Let me see if she ever unfollowed her. Once I realized it was like incredibly hurtful damn I mean I followed her once I realized it I followed her back immediately what about

Josh Groban and Khloe Kardashian you were gonna say that that to me like I think I would could retire yeah I could retire peacefully knowing that Khloe Kardashian was sleeping in the arms of Josh Groban or Bill Hader he's like a funny guy i think it's age appropriate yeah i could see him like vibing with the kardashians i could see like now that kim is with p like the s.l crew yeah like chloe being open to someone funny of that nature yeah and bill coming across her desk yeah honestly even though i'm not like an anna kendrick girly i did think this was like a nice couple because they were like really low-key and quiet and they've kind of been together for a while. So those are the types

of relationships you don't really expect to break up. Yeah these to me like if you had told me they've been married for 20 years I would have been like

yeah I knew that. Yeah. But he also briefly dated Rachel Bilson right? And I miss them already. That was like an iconic and you know I just didn't see

for Bill Hader like becoming like this bachelor man about town. No I could see it because in Trainwreck he was everything. I think he owes all of his A-list star relationships

to Amy Schumer because I think we can all agree that we were not looking at Bill Hader like that until his role in Trainwreck. 135%. We were just like plus 200 packs of them. We were just like that funny guy from SNL. He's in some of our favorite films and shows, but we are now seeing him in a whole new light. And it's it's started the second I walked out of the theater watching Trainwreck. Yeah. And that's on Telling the Truth. Mm hmm.

I'm sad for him and Anna, though. I'm not going to remember this because I barely remember that they were together. And when we announced that they were together, I was like, wait, he broke up with Rachel Bilson. And when they announced he was with Rachel Bilson, I was like, wait, he's dating Rachel Bilson Bilson. Yeah no it's shocking. It's really shocking to keep all of this apart but if he were to date Chloe I would never forget it. Never ever forget. Or Josh Gorman. Are you ready for our next story? Only if it's a story that's brought to you by Carraway Homes non-toxic cookware and bakeware collections so that you can make healthier cooking a piece of cake. The non-toxic kitchen wares are all designed for the modern home and they feature a chemical-free ceramic coating so food can be prepped with peace of mind that no

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This is a Canberra Pro situation. 100%. 100%. Stop letting your food stick on your pan you know before i released my grammy winning song 100 we had like a few different iterations of of the chorus yeah what was one of them and sometimes when i say 100 i say it like the old chorus it was supposed to be like 100 tell the DJ that I'm here tonight. Kind of sounds good. Wait. That's really good.

Yeah. So when I say 100%, that's from like my old, one of the demos, you know, as they say in the industry. It must be so hard for you artists

to keep apart the final version. No, there's sometimes like I think of my old demo for Toast. It stunk. I'm so glad we didn't go with it. It was like, how does that song start?

Hunt it down, we're going to have a good time. It's been a while, I've been waiting. And it was. That's 100%. Oh, fuck. Wait, how does the verse of Toast start? Hunt it down, we're going to have a good time. That's something.

A thousand hands up to the sun. Can't let it fade. So it was supposed to be like, can't let it fade. We got a sparkle in our eyes. Can't let it wait. So it was supposed to be like, can't let it fade. We got a sparkle in our eyes. Can't let it wait. Sounds like a Disney song. I'm counting down until we start. We're renegades.

We come to play. Put that on Toast Tunes. And we play hard. Unreleased demos. Put this on Toast Tunes. Yeah, because I like that. It sounds good when I sing it, but I have like videos from the studio and it was like turn.

Damn. But you won't know until you get in the studio. You know, us musicians know that. Obviously. That's why we have to get in the studio if i were to put out an album on spotify we just go to show you anyone can do anything anything is possible if you just believe no and you work really hard and force people to listen to your voice no of course like we would once we got you in the studio like we would show you like how to sing the right pitch and the right key and then like a little auto-tune star star I love that okay our next

story speaking of stars Lizzo teaches James Corden about damn time dance on carpool karaoke and shares how Beyonce inspired her career so last week Claudia was saying that James Corden was teasing the biggest artist on the world was gonna be in karaoke carpool karaoke the biggest artist in music right now and I and she thought it was to be Taylor Swift. And I said, no. Who did I say it was going to be? I don't know. I feel like I guess like Doja Cat. Oh, yeah. And it's Lizzo.

And I like stand by what I said, which was like he was being extremely literal. Yeah. In music right now. So obviously I'm disappointed it wasn't Taylor. But I love to just see Lizzo doing her thing. She got a flute and she was just like being flutio. Oh, that's cute. Yeah.

That's cute for the flute. Her fluting abilities are one of my favorite things about her. Yeah. No, it's really cool. And it definitely sets her apart. And she's so good at it. And, you know, I feel like she's just making like band geeks everywhere proud. Even though I'm not saying like if you're in a band, you're a geek.

It's just like a trope. Leave me alone. And I feel like James Corden hasn't done karaoke, carpool karaoke in a while at first it was like strictly legends and then he got like a little desperate it was like throwing like random people in there who like i didn't think had reached the mark yet and then he like stopped doing it yeah they needed a break yeah but taylor's never done it beyonce's never done it adele has done it celine Celine Dion has done it who else like legends wise Pink has done it has she I think so Selena Gomez has Miley yeah her whole family had a show on Apple TV yeah that doesn't count I'm talking about the James Corden version she definitely did yeah Pink did carpool

karaoke has Kelly Clarkson for sure I need to watch that if she did. You know, the Super Bowl. Oh, Kanye did Airplane Karaoke. Oh, that was so good. Madonna. You know, the Super Bowl should go through the YouTube playlist of who's been on Carpool Karaoke to see who's like big enough for the halftime show. Kelly's been on Carpool Karaoke.

Okay, good. It should have been Carpool Karaoke. Ari has been on. Ari, yes. Selena. The Jonas Brothers with Demi. And then they started doing like, oh, you're not famous enough to be a legend. karaoke okay good it should have been carpool kelly ari has been on ari yes selena the jonas brothers with dem and then they started doing like oh you're not famous enough to be a legend let's put two like demi lovato and the jonas brothers like the super bowl yeah but like we

need taylor we need beyonce yeah katie perry i'm sure she has yeah and then we need to move on yeah yeah yeah she's done it. So he's, like, really hit all of them. Maybe that's why he hasn't done it, because, like, he's ran out of legends. But I'm glad Lizzo did one. It's, like, a badge of honor. I feel like it officially means, like,

you have staying power in the industry, you know? And she looked great. She sang great. I feel like every time I learn more about Lizzo, like, not from her music, but, like, on a conversational level, I, like, like what I see. Yeah.

She's, like, funny and, like, self-deprecating and, likerecating and like good sense of humor for sure yeah and her music is great so great yeah in a minute i'm anita sentimental man or woman to pump me up feeling fussy walking in my valencia valencia is so funny you know it's like a tiktok thing to put like a C like when you do something really good people like wow Zendaya put her holes in Dussie in this oh in this euphoria like when somebody does a really good job it's like they put their whole Jackie Yussie into like your whole pussy into something I like that Jack Hussie I don't know what it would be no I like Jackie Yussie yeah and so I like that she and she also loves TikTok a fellow TikTok stan so she's constantly you know using TikTok language in everyday life love it which you love to see you love to see are you ready for our fifth and final story it's the final story it's a vital story Jackie put her whole Jackie SC into that song Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- Airbnb announced a global temporary ban on parties and events nearly two years ago. Now the home sharing company is putting the ban in place permanently.

Airbnb will continue to bar disruptive parties and events, including open invite gatherings, party houses, which people book for a large event for one night, will also stay banned. Don't you feel like this should be up to the homeowner? Yeah. Because let's say, of course, like, you you know if you have a super nice house you want families to come you don't want people like trashing and I get that and parties mean mess but I think some people would be okay with like having their customers pay a premium to rent the

house for one night throw a party that includes like cleaning fees they pay a little bit more. I don't know why like Airbnb wants to speak on behalf of all of their homeowners. Right. And also maybe they just like the B&B format. But like you should be able to like book an Airbnb for one night and like have your wedding there. You know, that's a whole other business model for them. There should be Airbnb biz. Like corporate retreats.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like so weird. It's kind of like on Cameo. You can book a Cameo as a business. But everyone has a personal rate and a business rate. Because'd obviously pay more to be like I love LaCroix it's delicious and bubbly interesting yeah so like if if somebody wants to do it as like an official venue with like a party as like a venue for a party venue for a corporate retreat venue

for family reunion like no actually family reunion could go in the personal one but there should be like like the the homeowner should have the option to make more money if they want to. Also, what constitutes a party, you know? Is it a dinner party? Like, oh, I'm renting an Airbnb. Three couples are coming over for dinner, you know? Yeah. How many people is a party?

What level of noise is a party? I think more than 20 people is a party. What if you had like 25 people and it's a silent disco that sounds so fun what if you have 30 people it's a silent disco of sober people no that's definitely interesting i just feel like it should be up to the like so many people make their living exclusively on airbnb and i just don't think airbnb should be restricting how homeowners want to use their house. Like if the owner's up to it,

like you have to take, okay, let's say the house is, let's say a house is $500 a night. But if you want to throw a party, it's $1,500 and you owe me a $3,000 deposit just in case you break stuff and a cleaning fee. Like what homeowner wouldn't want that? Like the option.

But wouldn't most people just like pretend to try and get away with having a party and paying less a rate like yes but that's fucked up like that's not cool no no Airbnb is a crazy concept and they're always like making crazy rules you know like they're very um heavy-handed in their management. Yeah. But just this idea that, like, people are renting out their homes. But the thing is with Airbnb, it's usually not people's primary homes. No, but a lot of people, like, sometimes, like, it's both. Yeah, but I think, like, the way that a lot of people turn it into, like,

a full-fledged business is by renting out properties that they don't live in. Yeah, and have no intention of ever living in. Right, like, when you go to Nashville, you really see, like, how Airbnb has taken over so much of like the real estate economy. Every fucking house, townhouse, condo is like a full flip. No one lives there permanently and they make huge income every year

just by renting it out to like bachelorette parties. It's very cool. Visitors. And it's changed like, now there's also like Airbnb for cars, you know? Is there? It's called Turo. Oh, but it's not Airbnb.

No, no, no, no no but it's like you know they need a car for three days it's like uber for blank like it became its own industry yeah I think it's great I just think like and maybe they're doing this to protect the homeowners but I just think like give people the option yeah and they really should get into like venues don't be a narc they should get into like business like Don't be a narc. They should get into like business. Like there should be two. Yes. But sometimes it's like you like I learned on Shark Tank.

Like you can't do everything. And you need to focus on your business model. And like also being you know a wedding planning destination. It's too much. They also recently went public. So like they're obviously doing something right. Yeah. So like who the fuck am I to say with my private company you know very private we're so private so private um

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Just always try and keep it brief. Not like brief, like just give us a need to know detail. You need to know. Because if you're writing a whole magilla, even if it's the craziest thing, like we can't read it on the show. So if you've submitted and we haven't read it yet, it might be because yours is too long or it just sucks. But just deartoasters at gmail.com we we need some fresh submissions okay

i need to put my thinking cap on for this first one here's a little bit of that here's a little bit of background my friend's dad walked out on her mom six years ago since then my friend's mom has dated around and she recently fell in love again and married her second husband in june 2021 after they'd been dating for about a year and a half okay i've spent time with my friend her mom and her new husband gone gone out to dinner, hung out at their house. This past weekend, I was back in my hometown for the weekend,

and I, oh sorry, this was also written by a man, a gay man, I just think, because we're used to straight women. So this past weekend, I was back in my hometown,

and I opened up my Grindr as I usually do. An older man messaged me. My Grindr profile does not show my face, so people don't know who exactly they're talking to. Just a 26-year-old with nice abs, LOL. So I'm scrolling, and an anonymous older man messages

me and says, are you into older? Want to play today? His profile only showed his smile, but it looked vaguely familiar, and I had a hunch of who it may be. So even though I had no interest in meeting up with him, I replied, yeah, do you have a face pic? Sure enough, it's him, my friend's new stepdad. My friend is out of the country at a wedding with her mom right now, so it makes complete sense that this would be an opportune time for him to cheat. Now I'm struggling to decide if I should tell my friend or her mom. I don't want my friend to have to bear that burden after recently having her parents getting divorced, and I also don't want to spoil my friend's mom's happiness.

After all, they could have some sort of open arrangement that is frankly none of my business. What should I do, if anything at all? I promise to provide updates if there are any so I think I don't know there's a few the thing is like honestly I'm torn I do think like it's very possible that they have an open like thing but it's also very possible that like her husband's gay and cheating on her like and that's a real reality and I do think like and I agree with you, like telling your friend is like just passing the burden onto her. Honestly, like if you're like a, I don't know,

gay men have a way of like telling you straight in a way that's like non-offensive. And I could see a way like of you, if you're close with her mom, just like going straight to her and being like, listen, I just want you to know, no judgment. This is what I found. We never have to talk about it ever again. But I couldn't like really sleep at night if I didn't just show this to you. And then we're done. We'll never talk about it. I swear to God, nothing will change. Yeah. I think that's a good way. I don't think you should tell your friend.

I guess that's true. I think that's a good idea. Right. And I do feel like, you know, straight women really feel like they can trust gay men. There's like this unspoken bond and allyship. So I do feel like if you went up to her and they had some sort of arrangement and you were like, I don't know what this is. I promise I'll never bring it up again. She would trust you to like not tell her daughter and like really keep it between and not make things weird. Yeah.

I like that better than telling the daughter and making it her problem. Because then also like the daughter will eventually tell her mom and like her mom will, whatever her mom chooses to do, like if she decides to stay with him or maybe this was, you know, something that she knew about, like she'll always know that her daughter knows and like. Yeah. And telling the daughter doesn't fix anything. It just adds another person to the mix. And then if the daughter then tells her mom, her mom will feel embarrassed that like her daughter's friend has known for a few months. like if this were you like in practice in practice in theory in in practice I would not do a thing you know yeah let me think of like a friend of mine whose parents I

know I would make myself forget it you would go to a friend's parent and tell them that they're like no I would just be like they're close I would just live pretend like I never saw it I know but it's so big in practice but in theory I like what you're saying it's so big like it not only is he cheating but he might be gay like it's it's such a big secret to keep it's really tough it's a horrible situation to be in yeah I think if if you think the right thing is to not do anything, then don't do anything. But if you do feel like you want to do something. I'm not saying it's the right thing to not do anything. No, I'm not saying you.

I'm saying to the person who wrote in. Yeah, no, but I'm not saying I would do nothing because it's the right thing to do. Because I'm like. No, if you can live with that. Like I would be like shaking in my boots like trying to tell her. You know, this might be a situation where an anonymous letter um comes into play you know the first night at bed ron put his breast head between a cocktail waitress's breasts right just even though that makes the whole situation more creepy and right because then it's also she has to figure out her relationship but then also who the fuck

said this to me a stranger knows yeah no that's scary that's scarier either do nothing or go direct to the mom yeah depending on your personality Like if you're have that sort of a relationship, if you, you know, are very courageous. Yeah. But that's the thing with Grindr culture. I think, you know, most I would say like nine out of 10 people on Grindr don't have their faces in it because it's really just like an app for physical connection. And sometimes you will run into someone you know. And like I have gay friends who've told me about it.

And like it's literally the worst thing in the world. That's crazy. Especially if you're newly out. A lot of people use the app to experiment. And since you don't have to show your face, it's like you're not really, you know, there's no risk. But then if you like message someone and it's always people in your area

and then you end up messaging someone who you know or like maybe like your cousin, like it can get really murky because people don't say their names or their faces they just have usernames and like usually the chin down and it's usually like a sexy abs pic so this is the the dark side of Grindr that they don't tell you about yeah so we're giving you two options you know yourself and you know this woman and do what you think is best. But I'm sorry that this is, that this burden has fallen into your lap. Yeah. But I do feel like you're equipped to handle it.

Like I really do. I think so too. I don't know why. Cause you want, like. You're just speaking like very matter of factly. No. And because like. No, not like emotion.

Like just what do I do? I think if it was like one of the girl's girlfriends, it would be a totally different situation. But the fact that he's like a gay guy just makes me think like the mom will be more open to what he's saying. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know why.

I just feel like that's the case. Yeah. All right, next up. Hey, Jackson Claude, iconic duo. Hey, I added the iconic duo. It wasn't written. I was going to be like, she sounds wonderful. How you doing? I'm an English toaster in desperate need of advice. British camper? A few weeks ago, my boyfriend went on vacation with

his friends to Portugal. All the boys that went have girlfriends were a big group of friends. Today, my boyfriend let it slip one night that they went to a strip club and one of the boys, Maverick, got a handjob in a shower from a stripper first of all ew second of all what do i do with this information do i tell maverick's girlfriend the boy my boyfriend has sworn me to secrecy but i just don't know whether i have a duty to tell her although i'm also aware that if i do tell her then it would literally ruin her life any advice you could provide would be greatly appreciated oh my god you guys have really had me stumped today yeah that's a tough thing you know i did go through something similar but it was like with a couple that like I don't know. I went through something similar too with a couple that I like I was talking to a friend of mine. I had no personal

stake in the matter. Yeah I was talking to a friend of mine who went on a bachelor party and he was telling me like one of the guys there who was engaged like did something bad but I'm like I don't know these people so like I just have this information but I'll never like do anything about it because I don't even know these people literally sane so but imagine if you were really close to the situation and the couple if I was really your boyfriend put you in a horrible position yeah and I love him for being honest with you sounds like you guys have a great relationship no I don't like that he told you because why do you need to know and it makes me feel like not to like you know cast doubt but it just like makes me feel like he told you you know cast doubt but it just like makes

me feel like he told you this thing about him about this other guy because like to get your focus on that and like maybe he did something okay let's not make it more dramatic what I'm feeling like because like why throw Fred under the bus Maverick sorry yeah no I really don't know what to do here like I would need to know more about your friendship with this girl. Yeah. But you know what? And like their relationship. Sounds like it's time for an anonymous letter.

Also, there are showers at the strip club that you can. That's what I'm confused about for sure. Unless like they. Took a stripper back. That's, that's different than like getting handsy at the strip club. Yeah. But still like getting handsy at the strip club is also different than a fucking hand job. Like everyone gets handsy at a strip club, right? Isn't that what you're supposed to do? Actually, that's not what you're supposed to do. But like you always cross a line. Yeah. When you go to the strip club is also different than a fucking hand job like everyone gets handsy at a strip club right it's not what you're actually that's not what you're supposed to do but like

you always cross a line yeah when you go to a strip club no but like to ejaculate strip club tings out of the strip club is another line oh yeah yeah yeah but even like physical skin-to-skin contact with an orifice is also crossing a line yeah and it's like you can't get a pay to get a handjob at a strip club, right? I mean, it depends on the type of strip club, but like, I think you probably can.

But isn't that illegal? Well, first of all, they were in Portugal. So I don't know the laws there, but like, yeah, no,

a lot of strip clubs like, you know, in the back have, you know, blurred lines. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, you want to make an extra 20. I would say if it was in the back, maybe don't tell her, but if they left together and took a shower and like that's that's a little more serious don't you think like yeah but I still think the hand job in the back is bad but couldn't you chalk it up to like bachelor party tings not your business I feel like first of all this wasn't even a bachelor party. Second of all, bachelor party gone wild is like getting a lap dance,

like maybe putting your hands like on her boob for a second. Let me ask you a question. If Ben got, if you found out that he got a hand job at a strip club. I would burn the place down. Like ejaculating? Like bitch, literally, I could do that. You could do that. Why do you have to have some random girl do it?

Yeah, in the shower that's unacceptable would it make it worse if they went back to the hotel and it happened of course that's what I'm saying because you have all this time

like on the cab ride up the elevator yeah like I think there's a difference between getting carried away at the strip club versus taking it home with you but I don't think

getting a hand job is considered getting carried away I think it's further than that I think it's really carried away no I think it's cheating than that. I think it's really carried away. No I think it's cheating. So would you want to know? Yeah but the thing about me is like I don't if this if I was this girl in the situation like I don't feel bad about like doing the right thing and pissing off like a guy. Like you literally fucked up. No it's not about pissing off that guy. It's about disrupting the. It's about disrupting her equilibrium. And getting your boyfriend in

trouble. Yeah but it's like I don't know but getting your boyfriend in trouble yeah but it's like I don't know but maybe this is just the tip of the iceberg you know yeah if you're so easily carried away on a boy's trip it's like not gonna be hard for you to cheat again or that doesn't mean you haven't done it before yeah yeah yeah I think you should tell her but like before you do like you have to get her solemn swear to tood that you won't tell him that you heard from this girl because then that gets her boyfriend in trouble then her boyfriend looks like a loser like you're not like gonna be like bro code like so this is a mess if there's a way you can guarantee the girl won't rat you out i do think you should tell her okay or an anonymous note no because then she also has to worry about who knows.

This is a case for form spring. Remember that anonymous form we used to have in high school? And it was like, ask me anything. People would be like, you're fat. I'm like, why the fuck did I put this up? Yeah. Form spring. Tell her, be like, we should get back into form spring, girly.

And then write, be like the first one. When your boyfriend went to Portugal, he got a handjob from a stripper in the back of a shower. Yeah. Unclear where the shower was. Sometimes form spring is the only answer. And I mean that. I'm sorry we couldn't be more helpful.

I thought I was helpful. I think you should tell her. But, like, make sure you don't get your boyfriend in trouble because then he's, like, going to hate you. And, like, his friends will think he's a loser. Next step. And the final one. But maybe the friends are a loser-y group of friends

that need to disband because they're going to Portugal and getting handjobs from a stripper. And, like, this is a sign that, like, maybe you really are a losery group of friends that need to disband because they're going to Portugal and getting hand jobs at a strip club and like this is the sign that like maybe you really are growing apart and they have girlfriends yet they're not doing

a couples trip but it was also no one's bachelor party right right like if you're going to a strip club on a bachelor party

that's more understandable but like just a trip with your friends to go to a strip club no I'm sorry strip clubs for people in relationships are extenuating circumstances

like a bachelor party alright final one hey girlies I've been listening for about a year now and I love your podcast and I need some advice clubs for people in relationships are extenuating circumstances like a bachelor party all right final one hey girlies i've been listening for about a year now and i love your podcast and i need some advice about my current boyfriend we've been doing long distance for three years i noticed he was following some random girls on instagram i asked him if he was friends with these girls and he said no he was not so of course i said so why are you adding them on instagram he then proceeded to say i was controlling since i was checking his instagram followers i just think in a committed relationship you shouldn't feel the need to look at and

follow random girls that you don't know. Do you guys think I'm justified or am I actually crazy? Lol, thank you. Are they famous girls? No, it sounds like random girls. Like with 300 followers and if he's one of them. And I like how you write, do you girls think I'm justified or am I actually crazy? Because you are fully being gaslit.

Like he's making you think this is like a crazy thing for you to think when it's completely rational. Yeah. No, I think following like Instagram thoughts is just like fine and something we all have to accept, unfortunately. But following girls, the difference is like the Instagram model or, you know, bikini model, whatever, is never going to see your husband, notice him, whatever. But like when a girl who's not, who doesn't have a big following like sees this guy it's like he

has visibility yeah with her and I think that is weird it's very weird and honestly what I find even weirder than the fact that he follows these girls was his reaction to your question like yeah it's full gaslighting you're controlling like this guy sounds like a walking fucking red flag like I really think you gotta go honestly yeah I think that's really weird I've never had to think about like following random lay people yeah but it's weird like he could dm her and like start a relationship and he's making you feel like you're being unreasonable and crazy and controlling and you're literally not and that's just like the beginning of the mind games honestly I don't see this ending well I think you should get out I know that's like not the answer you were looking for he's giving extreme

takes and I'm feeling very conflicted today. Sometimes like people show you who they are and like you have to believe them. Like that's a crazy fucking response. And like even the way she was writing to us, like she thinks she might be acting crazy. You're not. He's literally gaslighting you. Yeah. Goodbye.

Goodbye. Deuces. Thank you for writing in though. Sorry about the three years. And thank you to everyone who wrote in. Again, that's deartoasters at gmail.com every Wednesday. So if you didn't get read this week, there's always next week. And it's a long distance relationship.

So if these are like local girls that he's following, who he has the ability to get in touch with, like it's nefarious. Yeah. This is not it at all. But that was it because that was our show. But it's not over yet because if you're listening as a podcast, Jill Zarin interview coming up right now. And if you're watching on YouTube, head over to the previous that was our show. But it's not over yet because if you're listening as a podcast, Jill Zarin interview coming up right now. And

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Also, if you want to support us on Spotify, please leave a thumbs up. Also, if you want to support us on Spotify, please leave a thumbs up. Also, if you want to support us on Spotify, please leave a thumbs up. people, and we are honored and humbled to be joined with the OG fabulous woman, Jill Zarin. Welcome to the show. Oh, my God. Thank you. Thank you.

We have an audience, finally. You brought everyone and their mothers. Entourage. Entourage. Thank you so much for being here. Well, thank you for having me. So, the girl with no job has a really good job. I never heard that before.

You are a class on her. No, you've heard that every single time every day of my life every day yeah no um we love you like we think you i mean i re-watched real hostess of new york during the pandemic and i always knew i was a jill girly like i was team jill till i died all that but re-watching it i was watching it in high school what the fuck did i know re-watching it over the pandemic. Like I had such a new respect for you. I loved you on the show. And now you're here. Obviously you're promoting Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. And I'm so happy that you're back on TV because you are really and truly made for it. Well, I'm really here promoting Jill and Allie.

Ultimate Girls Trip is just a vehicle as we've seen on the show to promote my shit. Yep. And that's all good. You, there's like a trope that you are always like hawking something new, right? Oh, well,

if you've seen, if you, I don't want to have a spoiler alert, but if you've watched episodes one, two, or actually two and three, you know, the girls learn right away

that I have a lot of stuff going on. I've got a lot of products I'm selling and I give a lot of stuff to the girls and I, I don't, you know what? It's so part of my DNA that I was got a lot of products I'm selling and I give a lot of stuff to the girls. And I don't, you know what?

It's so part of my DNA that I was wearing a shirt that I never made. It was just a sample. And I'm like, oh, it was a tennis sweatshirt. And it said, I think it's a Camp Zarin Hamptons or something. It's a Hampton shirt. And I said, oh, you know what? This is mine because I was wearing it. And then they did on the tv you know and then

they made a logo jz tv like qvc jz tv which i actually now made a t-shirt on my website jillzaron.com in my merch yes and of course i brought all my swag to give you as gifts oh we're so excited we love it don't you love swag we also like have so much shop jill and ally stuff like i have everything the phone charms the jewelry so we take more, but your stuff is really premium. Yeah. Where's my Diet Coke? I have the sweatshirt that says, where's my Diet Coke? She wears it all the time.

If you drink it, we'll give you one of these. Yes. Because, you know, I'm always with my Diet Coke. Is there Diet Coke in there? What do you think? Yes. 100%. What are your thoughts on Diet Pepsi?

Nope. Really? Nope. Not unless they pay me a lot of money. I actually love Diet Pepsi, I think, more than Diet Coke. Do you really? I know pay me a lot of money. I actually love diet Pepsi. I think more than diet Coke. Do you really? I know. It's like a weird thing I recently discovered about myself. And I've had fights with people in restaurants, owners about it, where they tried to like slide it in and tell me it's diet Coke. And I know it's not. And we have to fight about it.

Zach on Main Street in the Hamptons, you know, he's got a new show serving. Yes. Yeah. He and I got into a big time a couple of years ago and I won. He actually called me up one day and said, it wasn't a Pepsi diet Coke thing. It was a Coke diet Coke thing. They served me diet Coke, but it was Coke. And I knew it was Coke. I'm like, this is not diet. Don't even try. And I'm like, take me downstairs.

He takes me downstairs. He shows me all the boxes that it's because I first I said it's fake Coke. Or it's Coke Zero. Whatever. He shows me the box. It's actually a brown box and it has the boxes that it's because I first I said it's fake Coke or it's Coke zero, whatever. He shows me the box. It's actually it's a brown box and it has the label on it. I mean, you'd have to work really hard to fake that stuff. Yeah.

So I go downstairs. Everything is right. But I said to him, listen, they must have switched it. This is there's a switch in the lines. He's like, Jill, they just put it in last week. I said, I'm telling you, do what you want. I'm telling you. A month later, he calls me up.

He goes, I have to tell you, the guy came in to serve us, to fill us up. You're right. There was a mistake. They switched it. No, a true Diet Coke connoisseur knows when it's not Diet Coke. Don't even try. And I could tell fountain from can. Well, that's what I was just going to ask.

Can from bottle. I mean, I go deep. What is your preferred method of Diet Coke? Is it fountain? Is it bottle? Is it can? Is it glass bottle? You know, bottle, plastic bottle, the big ones, is the best because you lose the least amount

of fuzz in it because there's only this much air at the top. It's like champagne kind of thing. I'm a real connoisseur. But it's really about the ice, people. Agreed. What's your favorite ice? You know, I like the cube. I do.

But I have two ice makers, one in each house. I have one that's cube and one that's small. I like them both I like the little nuggets the nugget yeah the nugget maker is actually the more expensive ice yes I know

we're waiting for Prime Day to get one you see what was the ice situation at Dorinda's house there was no ice situation there was a lot of no situation well we were just talking

about that with Allie before there was no food right like so you know Ultimate Girls Trip first time they went to Turks and Caicos gorgeous villa. I hear the next one is somewhere really fancy like Bali or something. Ah yes it is. Not Bali but yes it is. You went to someone's house in the Berkshires and it's a gorgeous

gorgeous home. Gorgeous gorgeous. But did you feel like a little like slighted? Did you watch the episode? I said I did. I think they used, actually, you know, we all get interviewed. We all get asked a lot of the same questions. And, of course, they had to use mine, so Dorinda probably hates me. Right. No, I don't think she hates me. But, yeah, I said, and I'm sure she, by the way, Dorinda would say the same thing, like, why my house?

Why couldn't I go to Turks and Cares? Of course. Why did I have to work so hard? She did work hard. She worked, let me, okay. Tonight's episode, tomorrow night's episode is, She were, let me, okay. Tonight's episode, tomorrow night's episode is,

according to the executive producer of all Housewives shows in all cities, told one of our producers, one of the producers on our particular, in our company who makes it, that it's the best episode she's ever seen of all Housewives shows. What? Which I think is overstated, to be honest. I don't think that. I don't know that because I haven't seen every episode of every show. But, and I was in it. But it's a lot of me. It's definitely circles around my storyline with

Dorinda of how I met her and kind of like the evolution. And it's, Allie, what did you think? Allie saw it. It's kind of must watch. Yeah, I thought it was great. Right. Allie thinks it's great. Deeper look into you. To you and Dorinda. All of us, too. Did you have anything to do with Dorinda getting on the show originally?

No. No, I definitely brought her to the event with the mindset that I would love her to be on the show. But nothing ever happened from that. And then years later, Ramona actually brought her on. Got it. Yeah. What does it feel like to do it again? Like, there's been such a long time since you were on.

Feels like I never left. Really? Well, you know, I'm still friends with the girls. And I never, you know, in spite of what you hear from people, and a lot of it's like, you know, haters, rumors, whatever, you know, I never self-produced myself.

I mean, sure, I would come up with ideas for scenes and things like that. You have to, otherwise you don't have a show. But I kind of just never see the cameras. I just let it rip. One way or the other.

I think I'm actually probably, if anything, more edited now than I was back then. Why do you think that is? Well, because I don't want to hurt people's feelings. I think I'm a little bit more. It's a different time, too. It's just a different time.

No, but not even that. I probably would say something that's inappropriate if I thought it was inappropriate. It's more that I'm sensitive to other people's feelings. Yeah. You know, a little bit more. So I don't think I'm as hardcore. And that's what you're going to see on the episode.

Tonight. Tomorrow night. Tomorrow night. Yeah. When you, you were constantly being brought up on the New York franchise long after you were gone. Right. Did that bother you in the sense that you couldn't respond or like defend yourself or

just give your input? Well, if it was something that I would want to, yes. But most of the time I was flattered. Yeah. You know, that they didn't forget me. I mean, a lot of housewives have come and gone, but I. Yeah. I feel like I never, I think people who don't watch the show on a regular basis

still think I'm on. Yeah. I mean, if they don't watch on a regular basis. So, you know, I kind of kept myself relevant. Definitely. I really wanted, like, I don't think you ever spoke about it on social media, but there was a huge storyline

that Bethany used Bobby's funeral for a photo op, and they really kind of went after her. And I would be beyond curious to hear what your thoughts on that were. You know, I don't want to go there, to be honest. It's done. Yeah. I don't want to rehash it again.

I can just say that I don't blame Bethany, really. I mean, I think it was nice that she came. I was happy to see her. I was definitely caught off guard with the filming. What I would like to say that's important is because people don't know this. I was not paid to be on that episode. I was never offered to be on the episode. I was never given a release to be on the episode. I was never told I would be on television that season. It was a big surprise to me when I was on the commercial every day. Wow. Outside the funeral home with Bethany talking. I had no idea. But I'm happy that Bobby

was honored. Yeah. He was definitely a big part of the show. Huge. I think part of it was maybe a misunderstanding. But once there was a misunderstanding, they still didn't like make a donation. Make it right. And make it right with me or with the family or whatever. But you know what? I'm back on television. I'm in a great place with Bravo. I don't hold any grudges. Good. I think I've evolved to that place where I just keep it going forward.

That's really mature. It is, right? I couldn't do it. And I'm not even saying it like I'm saying it just to say it. Right. I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it. You couldn't say it if you didn't mean it because it would just hurt. No.

You know I'm lying. Yeah. I'm not a very good liar. Yeah. I'm not a good liar. I can't keep, you know what it is? I can't lie because I don't mean it. You couldn't say it if you didn't mean it because it would just hurt. You know I'm lying. I'm not a very good liar. Yeah. I'm not a good liar. I can't keep, you know what it is, I can't lie

because I don't remember. That's me. Like literally. Is that you? Yeah. And people think I'm lying. I'm like, I literally have no idea

what you're talking about. It's your truth. It's my truth. Like what are you talking about? There's this restaurant by Jackie's. And people ask me every day like when I go back on the show.

I'm like every single day and no one believes me. First of all, I hate the word Thursday. I'm hungry. Me too. I'm not thirsty and I'm hungry. So everyone has to stop telling me I'm thirsty because I'm starving. Do people call you thirsty frequently? Some people do. They like to just, Dorinda liked to poke me with that word.

Like you're thirsty to be back on the show, is what you're saying? Yeah, and it really bothers me. And I don't know why it really bothers me. It hits a nerve. I guess because it's not true. Right, and you're very fulfilled. bothers me it hits a nerve I guess because it's not true right and you're very fulfilled I have a really great life and just because and I say you know you can't um you know don't you're projecting yourself on me um you know like the thou doth protest too much that kind of thing like stop calling me thirsty you're thirsty you know what I mean like I'm good and and you know people ask me if I want to go back on the show when When I give an answer, it's always the answer I feel today.

Sometimes I say, be great. Sometimes I say, I can never go back. Right. Sometimes I say, it really depends. It depends on who's on. It depends on when it is. It depends on how much money they're willing to pay. Right.

You know, I never made a lot of money on the show. This would be the time to make money. And if it's not, why do it? I saw a clip of you on a podcast where you shared, like, back then you were making, what, $7,000. I made $7,000 to $7,500 the first season. Right. Then $5,000 for the reunion. That's insane.

And then like the second season it was, you know, more but not much more. I really didn't start to make some money until the fourth season. Then I was, you know, gone. Yeah. Yeah. Well, speaking of the Roni legacy that's coming out, have you spoken to anyone about doing that? Do you know who's going to be participating? I have. I know as much as you do. do you think about probably no more what do you think about doing the two shows like as a concept solution to what happened well I think

they're playing it safe I think they're making a backup plan yeah yeah rather than be off the air four years then start with an or two years and then start with a new crew by the time it gets filmed and out now you've lost another year from when you saw the OGs. And if it fails, you have to wait another year to recast and do it again. I think that they don't want to lose the audience completely and never get them back. So I think that they're kind of hedging their bet. However, I don't know if that's a done deal.

It's not done for me. So if they, you know, it's not done for me, it's not done for Bethany for sure Alex and Simon are living their life in Australia can we talk about that because when I was re-watching um the early seasons of Housewives during the pandemic I remember in high school like thinking oh my god Alex and Simon are like not okay they're insane and then seeing it again as an adult like I very much had the same sentiment um but I really actually do feel like they're really nice people. And that's what I gather.

Like even though they're on the show, they were like a little off. I gather that they're nice people. And now they have this like totally different life in Australia. She's like a psychologist. She became, she got her MD, not MD. She got a PhD in psychology and he became a lawyer. It's a different education. It's not the traditional United States, but it's he became a lawyer. It's a different education. It's not the traditional United States but it's definitely still

a lawyer. And the kids have grown up and they're tall and like amazing and you know it was such a different time then. I was shocked that they fired them. I think it was a huge mistake. Me too. I think they ruined the show at the time. I did. I thought it then. I still think now that it never

recovered. Never recovered its like glory. Yeah because it like Laurie yeah because it was interesting want to go back and watch it because you only have four years of us together really three with Bethany and then she left yeah I thought it was great when she left not great when she left but meaning that the show was still great without her and then they just destroyed it for no reason for no reason the ratings were great they were making tons of money and I, I still don't have a straight answer why. But I was with Kristen Taichman last night for dinner. And she was on it. She was one of the people who came on after I left.

And she said that they actually, I don't remember this. She said they took like a year off at some point after she was on or before she was on. Because the show had done so badly when it came back with all these new people that it never really recovered. And what are Alex and Simon's feelings about their time on the show? Did they love it? Did they hate it? Did they regret it? I think they regret it.

Yeah. I think they regret it. They had to move to, they had to leave the country. Right. But I think their life is great now. Me too. But I don't think the circumstances that they had to leave were great at all. He couldn't get a job here.

Wow. Yeah. It was really hard. But I have to say, you know, Simon was like a monster to me. I had for no reason. Honest to God, Ali was there. No reason. No reason. I didn't do it. It was it. You know what? It just infiltrated all our lives. And we just all became full of ourselves and didn't have to handle being famous. And nobody was telling us what to do. Nobody had, you know, it's just to, and nobody was telling us what to do.

There was no other celebrities to talk to that did what we did. There was no other housewives or husbands to talk to. We were the first, and we paid a big price for that in a lot of ways. But there's some great things that come with being the OG. Of course. And it's before everything is formulaic where it is now. It's not Instagram. We had to do blogs to talk to you. Right.

The blogs. We had to do blogs to hear from fans. Right. The blogs. We had to do blogs to hear from fans. Right. You know? Yeah. It was crazy. Personally, I think why I've always felt connected to you is because New York is such a Jewish city, and there aren't that many Jewish housewives of New York.

I don't think there are any. You and Heather, right? Was Heather Jewish or half Jewish? Heather is Jewish, but I don't think Bethany's Jewish. No, your mic is fine. It's fine. Okay. And when you were introduced on Ultimate Girls Trip, they're like, Jill's not here.

She's doing a Jewish holiday, which just, like, made me so happy. And I said, I'm a Jew. Yeah, like, it's... And I'm proud to be a Jew. We love that. We love that. And there's really not a lot of Jewish... Yeah, claps for Jews. I'm a Jew. Yeah, like, it's... And I'm proud to be a Jew. We love that. We love that. And there's really not a lot of Jewish... Yeah, claps for Jews.

I'm a Jew. Good for the Jews. Good for the Jews. Oh, I don't know. Go there. But, like, there's really not a lot of New York Jews or, like, Jewish representation on The Real Housewives of New York, which I find to be so bizarre because it's such a Jewish city.

And they don't care. Right? No, they don't. It's so weird to me. It is what it is. Well, now Leah's a too. Well Leah, yeah Leah just converted. Do you know Leah? I met her like once or twice. She's nice. I think she might stay on the show. I think she's gonna end up on the new. I do. I think they're gonna hold on to one person. I think that would work. I do. If she brings on a cool crowd. Even

though she was here saying she wanted to go to Legacy, like with her friends. Oh. I don't know if all her friends are going to Legacy. I mean, and the other thing about Legacy, it's like, what is a Legacy? Is Legacy only the original four years where the four of us were together, meaning Kelly and Sonya and whatever? Or is Legacy anybody who's been on more than two years? Is Legacy, I don't know. Good question.

That's a good question. I do think Sonya would qualify as a Legacy. I do too. And I think Kelly doesia Would qualify as a legacy I do too And I think Kelly does too Yeah I forgot about Kelly Oh how could you Forget about Kelly

Are you kidding me She's saying Kelly We better erase this And do that again I'm literally like Who is she talking about Of course I follow Kelly Ben Simone on TikTok

Don't even start I was with her this weekend That's so nice Like that I'm still friends with You know A lot Luann right

Oh my god yes Kelly, Luann, Sonia Ramona lives in my building I live in her old apartment What Yes I found out I'm still friends with, you know. A lot. Luann, right? Oh, my God. Yes. Kelly, Luann, Sonia. Ramona lives in my building. I live in her old apartment. What? Yes. I found out.

She came over last week and she told me that she used to live in that apartment. Wow. Before she married Mario, I think they were living together before they got married. Oh. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? That's so nice. Yeah, it is. I mean, so it's just crazy.

And, you know, we're in a good place and we're not in a great place. Of course. We're in a good place. It's just nothing changes. That's what's so crazy. And, you know, we're in a good place and we're not in a great place. Of course. And we're in a good place. It's just nothing changes. That's what's so great. Yeah. Not much has changed in the 15 years as far as the relationships between us. No, but it's like everything in the world changes, but Ramona and Jill are forever.

I know. It's crazy. You know, so it's unfortunate. Everything works out the way it's supposed to. Yeah. The truth is now I'm so fulfilled. I work with my beautiful daughter, Allie, who's a friend of yours. Clap, clap.

And a fan of yours. Well, you, like, made a lot of waves during the pandemic because you started your own business. And at first it was like scrappy in your living room and now it's like a full fledged. Can Allie come in and talk? Yeah, yeah, come on. Come. I want to, yeah, I want to show you guys what we've been doing. And you brought gifts, which we, it's a great way to get invited back.

We are the swag queens. Swag queens. That's important. Allie, can you do it? Because I'm kind of sunk in here with the dog and the mic. Can you show and tell? Oh, show us? Yeah, show us. You show, Jill talks. Whose is whose?

Yeah, that's good. Well, whoever you guys can trade. Oh, sure. Make it hard. That's not a bad line. That's a bad line. I thought it would be good for the baby. Oh, my God.

Thank you. You have a baby? Yeah, I just had a baby. A baby? Mm-hmm. You are a baby. No, I know. How old?

29. Oh, my God. Yeah, I had Allie at 29. She went to college. You look like a baby. You look like a baby, though. I know. How old? 29. Oh, my God. Yeah, I had Allie at 29. You look like a baby. You look like a baby, though. I'm a Lash Beauty tool. Congratulations. Wow.

Oh, my God. Did you have a girl or a boy? A boy. Oh, my God. His name is Harry. He's so cute. I love the name Harry. I named him after Harry.

Harry Dubin. I knew it. You were going to say Harry Dubin. Oh, my God. So you do beauty now? You have candles? Beauty tools bag. Candles.

Look how great these are. Here, show them. Prince Harry. That is so cute. So you do beauty now? You have candles? Mutuals bags. Candles. Look how great these are. Here, show them. That is so cute. Thank you so much. I can never have enough jade rollers, honestly. It's ice rollers. And then obviously more phone charms for yourself. Oh, phone charms.

Oh, cute. Look at this. I wore a dress the other night. I literally was dying for this. Oh my God, I love that. That's a great beach bag. Is this a great little bag? So cute.

So how do I have this beach bag in other colors? Yeah, you do. Oh, I have some of your candles in my house. I have sweatshirts. Manifestation candles. I have everything. By the way, we have the best Bravo swag. Yes, you do.

It's better than shopbybravo.com. A hundred percent. I mean, come on. Our New York sweatshirt is established. Beverly Hills established. And then, you know, we did a tagline for each of the girls from the Ultimate Girls Trip. And I gave each one of them a sweatshirt with their tagline and some of them wore it around the house we'll see if it shows up and it even had like

we went you know most of time you can get a printed sweatshirt whatever we embroidered the apple or the diamond or the peach on the sleeve we embroidered it so it like gave it a little bit of special some of them even have the episode it came from on the sleeve so you know people ask us a lot like how do you guys work together you don't kill each other I could never work with my sister but you guys are in business together now and I'm curious if you prefer it to being in business with strangers or it's better or worse would you like to answer that sure can you hear me yeah yeah just talking um I think you know I worked in corporate before COVID. And because of circumstances, I was let go of my job like a lot of other people.

And we never would have probably planned for this. And I always distance myself from the housewives and from reality TV to, like, do my own career, my own path, like, on my own. Like, I never brought up, you know, the show or anything. Was it hard? Yeah, it was hard. No, this is what I want to know. Was it hard being a kid in the city, going to high school with your mom on the show,

before it was universally accepted as cool? Back when it was guilty pleasure. It was really hard. It was really embarrassing. Really? You guys were in the city. I'm sure you heard rumors when NYC Prep started. Yeah.

It was so embarrassing. I could have seen you on NYC Prep. Thank God she didn't. Yeah, agreed. Because they wanted this fantasy of Gossip Girl IRL. Right. But you on NYC Prep. I did film a few episodes. Thank God she didn't. Yeah. Agreed. Because they wanted this, like, fantasy of gossip girl IRL. Right. But you can't do that. It's not how it is.

You can't have 14-year-old kids drinking. Yeah. Right. But, yeah, it was embarrassing. I mean, Instagram didn't exist, which probably would have made it worse if Instagram had not existed and we were in high school. Yeah. But I think, and even now still, it's a guilty pleasure.

People are embarrassed to still talk about that I watch The Housewives. It's my guilty pleasure. Like, it's our secret for the girls' night. So I still think there's a stigma around it. But now that everyone, like, is their own boss and has their own platform, it's definitely more normalized and more common. What happened to those girls from New York City Prep? Do we know?

We just were looking into them. There's a deep dive on it. Some of them got married. Some of them are off the grid. on it um some of them got married some of them are off the grid um it's very unclear because they don't they don't have huge social media and if they do they're private wow yeah kelly got married kelly sebastian got married oh yeah wow she got married sebastian that was such a crazy time but you guys like working together yes was the original question that i i think that we both bring stuff to the table that's very different. Like, I lean on her more for, like, being the yes or no person,

the final answer. And I kind of, like, do everything else. Like, the actual, like, groundwork, the dirty work. Like, I get in, you know, really, really dirty. Allie does the dirty work. And I lean on her to be, like, is it approved or not approved? Like, like yes or no you do the big phone calls the big accounts like you're you're you come in i'm sales face of in a lot of ways and then ali digs in so like we'll have a big meeting with a corporate with a big customer and their president or whatever and we'll have a conversation and then when it gets trickled down to the buyer or whatever then ali goes to work and ali gets involved and does the details writes the orders make sure it follows the shipping and all that. But I source the goods.

I place the orders. Finances. I pay for everything. So I have to have three other jobs to do that. Right, right, right. And then, you know, we have a great team. Alyssa and Bailey are here. And we've got our team.

We have a warehouse in New Jersey and Connecticut. I'm based in Boca. So that's where I am most of the time. So, you know, we're busy. And you're doing this full time now, Allie. Full time. And that's Jill and Allie. Then I have my rugs.

Which I have two of in my house. And I have to say, nothing is easier to clean up dog piss. Thank you. And it vacuums so well. There's not a single stain on it. I've had it for four years. That's a long time. From Wayfair. It is one of my favorite rugs. And I probably will never buy another rug that's not a single stain on it. Thank you. I've had it for four years. That's a long time. From Wayfair.

It is one of my favorite rugs, and I probably will never buy another rug that's not Jill Zarin. I swear to God. And I mean that honestly. What a testament. Thank you. Working on our next line for next year,

I'm working on a Hamptons collection. Amazing. We need one in the studio. We need to add that print to the collection. I think we have it already in the printed collection. We have some more collections coming out. I just came out.

So we have our cleanable rugs, indoor and outdoor, that are dog and pee and everything. But I also have a higher end, a little bit of wool. Do not have an animal if you want wool rugs. I could put it here because you don't really have animals here. Well, we do. But I have a pink and white rug that's perfect for the set. We'll send it. We need a new rug. Right. You need to. You definitely need a new rug. I'm telling you. It's not my rug. It it's a white rug white rugs with shoes don't last very long this is our fourth one

we cycle through them after they get dirty no no no but it's time for new rugs and I make this in white by the way I do have this color oh fabulous

and it's stain proof so it sounds like you are like us a mobile Ali I'm pitching her to be 30 under 30 for Forbes

I'm so bad that's the bucket list I don't have much got it that's the bucket list did you guys have much got it that's a bucket list did you guys no we've never done that

how old are you 29 oh same time's running out this is it so if anybody from Forbes is listening what do we have to do

she deserves it she does deserve it well she did a lot of charity during the pandemic a lot you know just so many things you guys love the mask

yeah no that's true actually I could see you getting on. We gave away millions of dollars in masks. They love stuff like that. It was a good run. So where can everyone shop? Shop Jill and Ally. Shop JillandAlly.com. JillandAlly.com. JillandAlly.com.

But Jillzarin.com for the rugs, the swag, the furniture. But they're both on the top of the website. You can toggle between. They are. You can toggle between. Oh I love that word. You can go on the website. Yes she knows. She knows. Bravo. Toggle. And you Yes, she knows. She knows. Bravo, toggle. And you can use Oshree 15, 15%. Oshree 15.

O-S-H-R-Y. Thank you for the gifts. That was literally so nice and unnecessary. And thank you for coming. We love watching you on the new show. It's so nice. It's like peace has been restored in the universe. Jill Zarin is back on the show.

Nature is healing. You may want me back one more time. I haven't seen the next two I saw it tomorrow it's must watch tomorrow really it's gonna just expose a lot of things we love expose

it's gonna expose a lot of questions that are gonna get answered tomorrow I think for people who might be curious about certain things oh I'm ready for that can't wait on my way

thank you guys so much for listening if you're listening to this podcast we are back tomorrow on my way. Thank you guys so much for listening. This, if you're listening as a podcast, we are back tomorrow with a remote episode. So thank you so much for listening. Have an amazing day. Have a great day. And we'll see you tomorrow.

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