The Toast - S5 Ep90: Get On Our Level: Friday, July 8th, 2022

Episode Date: July 8, 2022

- Addison Rae’s Dad, 46, Allegedly ‘Misled’ 25-Year-Old into Having Affair (Page Six) (21:50)  - Kim Kardashian Says She’d ‘Do Anything To Look and Feel Youthful,’ Denies Ever Getting Face Fillers (People) (34:42)  - Kylie Jenner Slams ‘Lying’ TikToker Who Claims He Heard Her Son Crying in Home (Page Six) (40:59)  - Heather Gay and Meredith Marks Join Jen Shah in NYC For Upcoming Trial (Page Six) (50:06)  - Hayden Panettiere’s Ex Brian Hickerson Confirms They’ve Split Permanently (Page Six) (55:22)  - Southern Charm Recap (59:26)  The Morning Toast with Jackie  (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast and happy Friday, Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, weekend. Friday, Friday. Getting down on Friday. Fun, fun, fun, fun. Looking forward to Claudia's birthday. Let's just breeze right past that. Okay. Hey Jax, how you doing? Welcome to the Morning Toast. I'm doing good. Can't believe it's Friday. It's so joyful. I feel undeserving of this Friday because we all got Monday off for July 4th. Claudia, Friday is Friday no matter how you slice it. That's unbelievably true. And it's not subjective and even if you didn't work on Monday like it's still Friday. Yes but don't you feel like when a Friday comes around and it's been like a five-day hard-earned work week like

you feel so good about it? Yes but I still feel good even though this was a four-day work week we were working so hard. Non-stop. Meetings, meetings, meetings, podcast, podcast, podcast, photo shoot, photo shoot, photo shoot, modeling, modeling, modeling. I'm mentally and physically exhausted from being on set as a model yesterday. We did a sickening photo shoot that we can't wait to show you guys. It's not a secret project or anything. It's just like us being models and it's not a big deal. No modeling for the greatest company on the planet, Spritz Society. Spritz Society.

The pictures are so insanely cute. The Strice brothers were on set. The Strice brothers were there. Jackie was there. Ben was there. Claudia was there. It was a family affair. Spritz was there. There was so much Spritz. There was cakes. Let's not spoil, you know, the mood board for everyone, but it was really sickening. It was really sickening. And that's just a reminder that if you're heading into this weekend,

you need to hydrate yourself with Spritz Society. It's a good time. It's a delicious time. It's a taste of summer. I don't want to bring the mood down but I have to share a rather haunting experience from um my bedroom last night okay so I'm up it's late Ben's asleep oh I heard you couldn't sleep I couldn't sleep mostly because I just finished this like incredible book which was a Rach Parcell recommendation called Crossing the Line by Lucy Score and you're saying Rach Parcell read this book yes and like I put it it off for a while and I shouldn't have because I fucking loved it and there's a sequel. So I bought the sequel but I was like I'll start it tomorrow but I was just like up at night like the book left on a cliffhanger so I was just up late like tossing turning should I

read should I not read I read a little and then I'm like it's late I need to go to bed. What's late for you? Late for me is like 11 30 but this was like 1 30 oh okay okay that's late period I had tossed I had turned I had tried I counted sheep all that shit did you try meditating no you should have so you should have I was just like checking my phone like before bed like making sure like in the two hours that I was tossing and turning like nothing happened when all of a sudden I got an airdrop oh yeah I saw you posted you talked about this it was so alarming let me tell you why it was a fellow neighbor okay up late at night so I have three apartments on my floor one of them is someone runs their office out of there so it's literally only Monday through Friday nine to. It's giving us in our old studio. Literally.

The second apartment is a foreign family. They live in, like, Brazil or something. So they're never home. It's just me. Maybe it was someone upstairs or downstairs. My building is pre-war. Like, it's big, tall, like, heavy cement ceilings. Like, and it wasn't just, like, Robert wants to send Claudia a photo. It was, like, a PDF't just like Robert wants to send Claudia a photo it was like a pdf from like an hp it was giving hacker it was giving and especially like the book that I just read was

like about like a security company like in the hacking and the FBI and all that stuff so I was like fucking paranoid and I was like do I accept it or decline it like that was if I accepted it and it was some sort of like malware they put up yeah but I was curious I declined it but then I was up all night just thinking about you know the very tech savvy home invader or ghost or squatter living behind my bathroom mirror I don't think it's that serious but I do love your imagination I think either it was an accident but from where that's what I'm saying it was like you have neighbors like across your way or like in your window.

Like sometimes when I go to airdrop something in my house, other things come up like neighbors and such. We live all very close together in this city. It's really not that crazy.

I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. Because it is crazy. That's why it doesn't happen more often. So it was either an accident or it was a fellow restless sleeper

who wanted to share a note that says, you up? And then he would have written back, yeah, I can't sleep. I was thinking maybe sending a selfie being like, did you mean this for me? Question mark. Yeah, no. And then you guys could have started a relationship. Via AirDrop. It could have been turned into a Hallmark movie.

Called the AirDrop heiress. Or like air dropping into love. Air drop dead gorgeous. Because the picture you send would be obviously snatched. Yeah. So then I was up. It was like furthering my insomnia. Because I'm like, oh, there's a tech savvy home invader in my house from the Genius Bar.

I just don't know why the home invader would need airdrop to get into your home. Maybe your phone. It was suspicious. Especially given the book. Maybe it's a competing podcaster who like wants to wants to destroy that's a possibility wants to hack our instagram and delete all of our viral clips that's 100% what it was and that's the price of being at the top of the podcasting game sorry i don't make the rules and being so viral so true so shareable so relatable relatable yeah i think

that's the word people use to describe our show. I think they would say. In a serious way yes. Yes I think they would say relatable, hilarious, creative, completely unique, completely not ever been done before, give birth to it, throw it up, put it in a blender. I think that's what they would say. Yeah I think that's what they do say. I think that's what they do say as well. Do say. How's do? Do, da, do is exhausted from being on set. He was one of the models yesterday at our Spritz photo shoot. And he definitely came back with like a God complex, you know? But so did I.

So we were very much on the same page. Yeah, Bryce did incredible on the set. Incredible. He was like born for the spotlight. 100%. And I just want to let everyone know Bryce is doing well, even though he had an onion on my Instagram story last night. I saw.

I didn't know that onions are so toxic for my Instagram story last night I saw I didn't know that onions are so toxic for dogs so either you didn't know that no either it's not so toxic or he didn't get it I picked it up and he didn't get onions and grapes you have to be really careful and chocolate and I knew about chocolate but I didn't know about onions but Bryce seems to be fine he was these boys got iron stomachs like nothing phases or he didn't get a piece of onion because I did pick up half of it I thought maybe he got the other half well that's the price of being a home chef advertiser and his breath would have smelled like onion wouldn't it have not really because like at least Theo and I'm pretty sure Bruno's the same like they don't chew they inhale they swallow

yeah like it's not like he's chewing it up getting all the onion bits in his teeth and that's what happens to humans why you have disgusting breath it's literally a vacuum very very true no trace of onion no it's the price of being hooked on home chef and now Bryce is hooked on home chef as well so true my code Jackie at 100 it gets you 11 free meals um so yeah that was like my evening of torture how was you I saw you last night we had dinner together um even though you kind of like ambushed me I came over for dinner and rolled time and there was no role to be seen. And you forced me to record a podcast episode, banking some content for Patreon.

So that was a nice little seven o'clock ambush. I just wasn't expecting. Yeah, but I think it was really nice. We did have a delicious meal. Then Roald did wake up and you were able to munchker him. He did wake up, but it was like his pre-bed nap. So like he was like cranky and like I was doing all my tricks and he didn'd give me like

any smiles he was so happy I have a video of the two of you he's like enraptured I wasn't feeling like it was his like best self you know wow you know I now you're coming for a roll no I'm not coming for a roll he was right before bed it was like 7 45 what does he go to bed at eight o'clock like I got a small window and it wasn't like premium rolled because he's like fuck this bitch I gotta sleep I'm gonna tell him what you said that wasn't like premium rolled because he's like, fuck this bitch. I got to sleep. I'm going to tell him what you said. That's fine. Not premium rolled.

You, by the way, I know you're his mom, but like you can admit there's more premium hours of rolled than others. My rose is my son. What can I say? So annoying. And I told you what time to come over if you wanted premium rolled, but that was too early for you. Well, you know what?

I'm glad that I didn't because you would have forced me to do two Patreons. True. So it is what it is. I did get some rolled time, but I'm expecting a lot of rolled time this weekend because it's my birthday and I get what I want on my birthday. And this birthday, I want to breastfeed rolled. I just want to see what would happen. That's like kind of like child abuse, but okay.

No, it's not. Yes, it is. It's like you're giving a hungry baby a tit that's got nothing in it. No, we wouldn't do it when he was starving. Like that's for sure mean. I would do it like after he's like had a bottle or something, you know? I just want to see. Like, is that crazy?

That's an intrusive thought. I think that's child abuse. I don't think it's child abuse. I just think it's like a little psychotic. Borderline unethical borderline yeah that's like one of my intrusive thoughts that like i'm getting eerily close to acting on you know okay what if i just shove this breast in his mouth you know oh my god okay i don't you guys let us know in the comments what do think. Let us know. Drop a comment.

Should Claudia breastfeed my son? Okay, if we get to 100,000 subscribers and we get our plaque, I'll breastfeed Harry. No. Then you're getting everything you want. That's not how it works. No, that's literally how it works. No, it's like you have to do something for getting the thing that you want. You have to do something that you don't want to do.

Okay, what's something that you've been asking me to do? Ooh, what's something I've been asking you to watch? Yellowstone. Yellowstone. So if I watch all four seasons of Yellowstone, I can breastfeed Harry? No. I was going to say, if we get 100,000 subscribers, you have to watch Yellowstone. Oh, you're making this really hard.

Yeah, no, now I'm confused. Like, what are we wagering here? I don't know. Who wins? No, I don't get it. Who loses? We all do. But we all win because then you watch Yellowstone.

You'll be hooked. You'll be hooked. I know. I just can't. Like, I'm having, like, such TV fatigue for, like, the last couple of months. Me too. But you want to know what's weirdly been, like, I guess this is what, like, you know, people would call, not guilty pleasure, but it's just, like, a source of comfort for me.

Like, something that I'm really, really like just always looking forward to Southern Charm yeah I knew like last night I was up late I if it wasn't Southern Charm like if it was Beverly Hills I would have gone to sleep but I was like no I want to watch Southern Charm like and when it was over I was like darn I missed my show well that's so interesting I'm having definitely the opposite effect I actually don't like the season at all I feel like I literally don't know who anyone is and I don't know how they're all connected and it feels like people who we got invested in are becoming like friends of Madison. Like I actually feel incredibly confused by the season of Southern Charm and also enraged at like literally the men in this group like being their worst selves and like just straight up lying.

That's the theme of Southern Charm since the beginning. It's like the men act in a way that like you would typically think like girls act like with their drama yeah like that conversation between Craig and Austin like that's girls in high school no and like Craig I mean Austin literally sitting there and being like I literally don't care like what you did with Naomi well why did you literally spend all of last week like talking about it investigating it thinking about it like you obviously care yeah so I'm just like annoyed and like Shep is annoying me too like me too like sorry you can't not not wanting kids is totally fine but like to string this girl along and like I don't know maybe I do like you obviously don't which is fine just own it and that's why it was you know what it was reminding me of and kind of finally I was able

to understand it's reminding me of like Scott Disick where it's like he dates all these really young girls because not only is he into young girls but these are girls who at the time that they're dating him like aren't looking to get married aren't looking to have kids and like after a year two years when they want something more their relationship has to end so he's back to the drawing board but still he's not going to go out with someone who's like 30 or 35 or age appropriate because that person wants a relationship and probably kids okay but like what if he dated someone on his level who is like divorced with kids like that would be incredibly easy for him she's not gonna want kids that's true but could you see like Shep like Shep being

someone's stepdad no he doesn't want that either no he was just bothering me like a lot and the way like honestly the disrespect of Craig has just like gone to a point where I'm fucking done I know but at least like as viewers, it used to be they would disrespect Craig and put him down. It was just sad period. But now like we know Craig's on top. So it's like, okay, you want to shade him.

He's going to go to his store on King street or whatever it's called. And just rolling his money. Yeah. And in bed with Paige. Well, we'll talk about Southern charm. I just wanted to say like, it's a comfort show for me,

which I didn't know. I'm so happy that you found that. Yeah. I just wanted to say like it's a comfort show for me which I didn't know. I'm so happy that you found that. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. So we've got a great show. And we could jump right in before we do a little housekeeping. So the next two weeks are going to be kind of on and off with shows because we have so much going on. It was supposed to be like our summer break but we decided to like fit in a couple shows just because like there are some days we can do shows but there are some days we can't so next week we will be doing shows on Wednesday and Thursday only in studio but only Wednesday Thursday and then the following week we'll be doing shows Monday Tuesday Wednesday only yeah we just got a lot of like

business happenings that like need our full attention we've got personal stuff like we just got shit to do and so we need to get it out of the way so that we can come back from the two weeks of scatteredness, scarcity, and give it our 100%. 100%. So Tuesday, Wednesday of next week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday of the following week. Wednesday, Thursday of next week. Shit, sorry.

Okay, so we'll see you after this on Wednesday. And then from there, we'll let you know what days we'll see you. Wednesday, Thursday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Yeah. You know, maybe I'll make one of my little Canva Pro calendars oh that's so helpful it really was when you were gone on maternity leave those were like my lifeline also you want to know how you know we were so busy yesterday we never even posted our post show picture yes I did no you didn't no I literally did I looked so gorgeous there was no way I was not posting it let me see that's how busy I was I didn't even see it yeah and I went to go our socials on fleek like our reels went up I guess because my outfits were just so similar I like I just thought it was the day

before I think we should talk about that there's been some discussion about your shirts can you talk to the group yeah so I thought I established with everyone that this is just my uniform until further notice because I like how it's comfortable, not too tight. They fit. These, like, collared shirts matching shorts. Today I did mix it up. And it looks professional. I'm not wearing, like, sweats every day.

It's way too hot to do that. Yep. Can't wear, like, sweatshirts. Leggings. Leggings. That's what I was doing, like, before. But now I've gotten into these like collared shirts and matching shorts and I just feel really comfortable and I'm

just not in a place right now where I can focus on um losing weight I just have too much going on physically and mentally I don't have like the being on a diet takes a lot of mental fortitude that I do not have right now because I'm just way too booked and busy and like working that I can't. And you're literally raising a child. So like it's fine. Of course. No, but I can't dedicate like the headspace to being on a diet. And I think that's fine.

Like normalize not being on a diet if you can't. Yeah. And you look great and you just had a baby and everyone needs to stop. I'll get there when I'm ready and when, you know, things calm down for me. But I actually like don't have the bandwidth. The time resources yeah that's fine physically or mentally no time to work out no it's also physically like I just feel like I'm like my life is so physical right now like I need food as fuel I can't worry about like oh I'm still a little hungrier like this didn't fill me up like you're breastfeeding you have to eat and also aside from breastfeeding my life is very physical but also plus breastfeeding it just makes me

voraciously hungry and I'm not gonna leave myself hungry because then I have to deal with the mental aspect of like okay well you know thinking about like what I'm gonna eat next and I have no time you have literally no need for explanation on that front you look great you're doing great sweetie thank you and stop taking pictures of yourself your sister's going to jail and hence wearing like the same comfortable thing every day that still looks professional so if you have a problem with it then you're coming for new mamas and mamas get them normalize wearing the same thing all the time normalize having a look that wasn't um that wasn't english i'm sorry i was like you having a uniform no no i said it i jumbled my words normalize having a look that's exactly what you said and that's exactly what I heard really because sometimes I've been listening

to our podcast like back some clips and stuff how scary not only do I swallow my sentences but you really cut me off so much yeah and I don't notice it when we're sitting here but then I listen to it I'm like stick up for yourself girl totally um again there's really nothing I can do about that so I do apologize but it's completely out of my control um and back to having a look um this is the sixth color of the Amazon set that I own so I'm with you 100% I don't even know how many collared shirts and short sets I own because I do have them from a few different brands now so sometimes things may look like they're the same color but they're different materials and different brands right you're not wearing the same shirt multiple days it's completely different and that's on being a style icon yeah

they're not the same blue no i don't know they're so different do you know what i'm really and thank you yeah that you no doubt fished out of a department store bin that was chosen selected for you by the people in this room such i wish i knew that monologue by heart like that's a fucking read to filth like that is real housewives of atlanta level of read you should make a tiktok make a tiktok and that will force you to memorize it when miranda priestly's like cerulean like her it's asmr literally and she like purses her lips. Cerulean.

I'm literally going to start an ASMR like pop culture channel. That's cute. Where my first video will be this. I would tell Gemma that she is a fat. Can we say the C word on this podcast? Yeah. We never have. We never have.

Well, there's no censors. Okay, I'm paraphrasing. Actually, I wonder probably our YouTube rating, like we've got different ads. Okay. Oh, no, but we don't even do YouTube ads. I would tell Gemma that she is a fat runt who the shoes she gave me, I would, I can't remember the whole thing, but you know what I was going to say. I actually made a TikTok of it recently and I memorized it, but that was like a couple weeks ago, so I'm like a little, let me think. of it recently and I memorized it, but that was like a couple weeks ago, so I'm like a little, let me think.

I would let Gemma know that she is a fat cunt and the shoes that she gave me were not the type of shoes that I would wear. She said that they were meant for a beautiful woman and if that's the case, she should have put them back on the rack. Okay. I think Gemma's just a disgrace. A disgrace to humanity. A disgrace to women who are actually beautiful and classy. And someone lied to her several times and told her that she was fly and hot and sexy and beautiful.

And she's nothing like that. She's nothing of the sort. I definitely botched that a little bit. I feel like we were in slam poetry for a second. Literally. Like in the cafe. She would be a poetic genius if she got into slam poetry, Tiffany Pollard. Cynthia.

Jesus died for our Cynthia's. That's a good one. Yeah. Okay, now I feel ready to get in. Yeah. No, you have one more thing. I was going to say, I'm ready. Okay, I'm ready.

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month affair with a 25-year-old woman named Renee Ash. In an exclusive interview with Page Six, Renee claims that he led her to believe their alleged relationship was more meaningful. She said, quote, unfortunately, he misled me on his marriage. He lied to me. He told me that we were going to be together and have babies together. He even introduced me to his mom, his youngest brother, and I thought we had something real. He told me that we were going to be together and have babies together. He even introduced me to his mom, his youngest brother, and I thought we had something real. He told me a story of his marriage that convinced me that they were apart and in the process of getting a divorce.

She alleged that she broke up with Addison's dad this week after several girls accused the middle-aged influencer who boasts 5.4 million followers on TikTok. That is like the shadiest term, middle-aged influencer. Please never let me get to that point. No, it's only hitting on a lot of other girls accused him of hitting on them in person and even over FaceTime. She said the last straw, his girlfriend said the last straw was when she saw leaked footage of him allegedly caressing a girl's backside during a night out partying. Sources tell Page Six the individual was only 19 years old.

Yes. So that video had went viral on TikTok and had all these girls like posting screenshots of their texts and like relationship with Monty. And what was like most shocking and probably embarrassing for Monty from this whole situation is like his text messages. Like you thought Jeff Bezos wanting to get drunk and read the newspaper was weird. He is so cringe. I'm looking at them.

It's horrible. Like it's really like a lack of social awareness. It's a lack of humanity and it's just graceful. Yeah. Here are some texts between the two of them. They're horrifying. Well, so she says, why are you so shockingly amazing and sweet? Please tell me if it's fake and save me heartbreak.

He said, cause you you so shockingly amazing and sweet? Please tell me if it's fake and save me heartbreak. He said, because you deserve it. Period. She said, I don't. Didn't mean to send that. I'm sorry if this is weird, but I can't imagine you talking like this to Sherry. He said, we didn't talk. He's being like very short with her. She said, whole marriage.

He said, was a weird relationship. She said, I can tell. At least we met and mutually haven't felt this way before he said i love how you're beautiful and we can have fun and talk google eyes she said i love you so much never expected to be in love ever again especially now then she sent a picture of the two of them in a different exchange saying can't fucking stop looking at our pictures miss you so much he said i love you we headed home i love this pic we are such the power couple I'm one hour from the house I'll call as soon as I hit if you should call yourself a power couple girly you're not that's one of those like cringe terms like girl

boss yeah no if you call yourself a girl boss like you are the boss of nobody not even yourself nobody's boss nobody's boss he said I wish you sent me pics all day I would take a sexy pic now send me any new pics okay so I have to say that I had a very bizarre um encounter with Addison Rae's dad and so not not a shred of this is surprising to me we were at an event like in the same area um he had taken off his wedding ring like made a whole show of it too like showing everyone I'm taking off my ring this was like months ago months ago what was the event um I don't really want to say I don't really want to say oh okay I don't know why like no no I know I just wish you could like communicate to me so I could place myself there okay um no I'll tell you afterwards um he was being really inappropriate

like so much so that like it actually um like it was like a problem with with like a girl there like it was like it was really really bad and i just so from that moment i knew he was disgusting and he was like wasted and like spitting i hate when people spit when they talk he was just like a gross drunk guy with like bad slimy breath and like thick saliva and like spitting all over the place um and he's not like the most gorgeous man in the world so you can imagine what that looked like um so this does not surprise me and i think it's really disgusting injustice for Sherry. She's a sweetheart. I just saw her on TikTok making such a cute 4th of July dessert.

And this is what she's coming home to. And it also does make me wonder if perhaps they've been aware of Monty's issues in the past couple months. Because we've been talking a lot about how Addison feels like she's taken a very big step back from public life. And maybe they knew that this was brewing and just like we're prepping for it. I don't think so. I don't.

I think the two are unrelated because Addison is a rising star and like, and Monty's her stepdad, like, and his creepy behavior is not going to dull her shine. Yeah. And if you ever listen to Addison Rae's podcast, which I don't think exists anymore, but the first episode they did,

like it was her and her mom doing like a whole debrief on their family and the dad and the family dynamic. And like he he wasn't like a great guy. He left her mom like with the kids for a really long time and then came back right before things got good with Addison and stuff. So he's like not he's like a piece of shit. Yeah. I'm seeing some of these Chef Bezos style text. Horrifying.

Very horrifying. And there are so many. And it's actually really crazy. Usually, you know, when it rains, it pours. One person comes out and then like people come and share their stories too. But considering they're such online people and that's also where like these things tend to. Go. Live.

Live. I'm surprised that this is only all happening now. Now, right. Because it's been a lot of girls for a lot of time. Yeah. He's disgusting. Like literally disgusting. And he's obsessed a lot of girls for a lot of time. Yeah. He's disgusting. Like literally disgusting. And he's obsessed with riding

Addison's coattails. And he should know better because all the things in his life that afford him the privileges to meet people like that are because of Addison. So he should really just fucking shut up and protect her. Yeah. But no. And I'm sure it's all over for him and Sherry. As it should. And maybe this adds Sherry to our list of eligible queens.

I could see sherry dating you know shack sherry and shack iconic iconic i could just see her you know dipping her toe she runs in fabulous circles i could see like a nice relationship with another celebrity for her i would love that maybe sherry and josh groban nah crazier things have happened i believe there's a josh grobanban concert this weekend. Ben was looking up concerts maybe to go to this weekend for my birthday. If there is, that's what we're doing. So you better hope there isn't.

No, because I think I've pretty much made up my mind that I want to go to Five Seconds of Summer this weekend. Josh Groban concert. Near me. Near me. I always feel like an actual grandparent Googling pharmacies near me. Friday, July 8th. Saturday, July 9th. That's probably Saturday, July 9th.

That's also tonight. Oh, and at Jones Beach. PNC on July. No, July 9th is PNC. Tonight is Jones Beach. You should have. And I'm a PNC person, but I'll be here for whatever you want to do for your birthday. No, but I would love if you would take Harold to go see Josh Groban.

Like, I literally sang Josh Groban to Harry last night and he loved it. When I am... I actually gave such a stunning performance of a Celine Dion song to Harry last night when he was hanging out

in your lobby that Harry's doorman actually said that my voice was incredible. I don't even know if I told you this, but on my way out he actually stopped me

and he was kind of like speechless. He was like, your voice. I'm like, no, I know. And you weren't even singing good. No offense. I wasn't even trying. No, you were trying to like be quiet because you didn't want to.

Because we were in a public place. Yeah. Let me see if there's premium seats. There are. Can we do this later? We're like in the middle of a podcast. Yeah, sorry. But like I think we should spend your birthday at Josh Groban.

That's just what I think. Like for sure. And Ben would love it. And Holmdale is such a great venue. For sure. And I love Josh Groban. And this is not a slight towards him at all. But like realistically, like the songs that I know, he'll probably play max two of so I was gonna play you

know more than you think you raise me up you are oh my god it would honestly be such an emotional experience have we ever seen him in concert no and I I know I could go to Jones Beach tonight and therefore be here for your birthday but something about Jones Beach is so fucking far. And it's like a concrete jungle. And I hate it. I think it's the worst venue. And it's a concrete jungle where dreams are not made up. No, it's like everything is the seats are made of concrete. Like it's like a fortress. I hate it. I'm sorry. Don't make me go. Come on. Let's go to PNC. Actually, knowing you, I could go to the concert and your birthday still wouldn't have started because you're like a late night.

100%. Night owl. Club girly. Club rat. I'm going to look into it. Wow, that just made my heart flutter. You know, I actually recently watched some of our episodes as well.

And I don't think I've really realized the influence that that character from Hacks has had on me. I think her name is Megan Stalter, she plays Kayla the wacky assistant and her I just feel like I've actually picked up a lot of her mannerisms like unknowingly because I also follow her on TikTok and every time I'm like laughing at clips of us I'm literally being her that's so funny maybe you're more influenced by her TikTok because I because i don't see her tiktok but i watch tax and she grinds my gears oh my god i fucking love her she's so funny she is so funny but i think it's probably more coming from tiktok because i'm not like sometimes when you do someone i can feel it in my soul and it's you're not feeling kayla i'm not feeling the assistant

even though eventually she grew on me because she's a loyal queen. And first of all, she put up all of her money to help that guy. Jimmy. Loyalty. Loyalty is everything, girlie. Loyalty is everything. You know what else is everything? Time in here is everything.

Gotta watch Country Strong this weekend. That's how I want to celebrate my birthday. Non-stop loop marathon. And then Josh Groban. And then maybe I'll FaceTime Gwyneth because I have her number. There's this guy on tiktok who goes around um like at beaches and public places and it's like who's the most famous person in your cell phone contacts and it's actually an interesting question because like someone's like you know a rod's cousin like

everyone has like a random and like i need that to happen to me. I'm like, well, where do I begin? Nicole Richie? David Foster? Gwyneth Paltrow? You tell me. I don't know. I really don't know. Even though, like, I haven't used those phone numbers in a few years, and I'm pretty sure they're, like, celebrities are always changing their phone numbers.

But I'm not upset or anything. I'm sorry. I don't know who the most famous person in my phone is. Probably you. Oh my god. Just an early birthday gift. Thank you. That's really sweet.

I really, I appreciate that. But I'm still expecting like a material item as well. Of course. I have something really big planned. I also got you a present recently. Did you? I ordered it on Amazon, but like it was not prime and it was giving like shady dealer. So I feel like it'll be here in a month. You want to hear something crazy? Remember how I told you

guys I needed to order my postnatal pills? So yesterday I finally went to order them and they're like temporarily unavailable because like the ingredients are just not available but they're like you know. Supply chain. It's like a prime item. I don't go to some like they're nature made you know. No. They're the first ones on amazon supply chain nothing works in this country there's nothing on the shelf i can't get anything i need a supply chain anytime you can't get anything everyone's just like supply chain and you're just supposed to accept that but like chalking it up can we investigate what happened to the supply chain let's get it on it's been working for hundreds of years no and you know what i am and it's working really

strongly and in this way for decades and i'm an understandable queen like of course covid will derail some things but like it's like it's over for a while by the way and covid was like popping you know for a year and a half and the supply chain was fine yeah no i have i have some they'll say they'll say it was like staggered right i have some theories on the supply chain and i'm just saying if that bitch doesn't get her act together soon like I'm not gonna do anything but I'll be upset no but like it's two things one stop blaming everything on the supply chain and fix it no or like is that just like a thing people say no that's my second thing is there are some things like Dana was telling me her uh like wedding photographer her photos are gonna be

late and he was like supply chain and it's like you have your camera and your computer right so there's there are people who are blaming things on supply chain because you can no since 2020 like we all have like a slew of excuses for many things even when I was talking about yesterday my show Titanic being canceled um COVID like what it's not an acceptable excuse like get an understudy no so like they're just like all these things and it's actually nice for like humans like oh I can't go to work I have COVID but like you know you're fine like yeah or you could even be like I was exposed I just need to take right right or like oh no sorry I didn't get the report in like my paper and my printer couldn't fill because of supply chain like right it's nice for us mortals like to have like some things to fall back on for excuses but like for the

infrastructure of the country like get it together yeah agreed two separate things I also saw like Kate Middleton couldn't go to an event because she was exposed to COVID and it's like I she's tired I believe that's a lie and you know what that is what uh one of the very small blessings that came out of COVID I think think. Like, she... A forever excuse. She shouldn't go to the event. Like, she's probably tired and she's a mom of three. Like, let that bitch go home.

Yeah. But now we all have an excuse. That's fabulous. And you don't even have to lie and say that you have COVID because sometimes... Exposed. Yeah, but exposed. 100%. Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah, I really am. Kim Kardashian's on the cover of Allure. She says she'd do anything to look and feel youthful. Kim is leaning into her blonde alter ego hard. She says, I have a different energy when I'm blonde. I'm a totally different person. I'm sassier. I'm more confident as a blonde.

That's not to say that a brunette Kim is any less powerful, though. In her opinion, brunette Kim is a boss. Add long nails to the equation equation and she has what she refers to as bitch boss energy i like that she like associates different phases of her life and like who she's gonna channel based on her hair yeah but just doesn't change her hair too much so these are like concrete personalities no i saw a lot of coverage on this allure cover and like also just talks about aging and what she's done and her philosophy on trying to stay youthful.

And I think a lot of this is probably, like, not in, like, such a, in a more subtle way, like, has a lot to do with skin. You know, like, just making her, like, the face of youthfulness. And honestly, like, one of the things I love about Kim is, like, the fact that she's, like, 40, you know? It's, like, she's like 40 you know it's like she's literally the sexiest woman alive a bombshell and like for years like you had to be 21 to do that and it's like no one on the planet is sexier and Kim is also 40 and had four kids

like I don't know I just I don't really like this like angle like this youthfulness like I'm I always want to look my best like and I want to be tight and right forever. But this obsession with youth is like, it's not my favorite thing, honestly. I hear what you're saying. I think she is positioning herself for Skakin. And I do want everyone to know, I use Skakin every night. And it's great. And I love it. And sometimes, I always switch off what I use.

Because sometimes I'm either feeling lazy or I like to keep my skin on its toes. You don't know what's coming. Is it going to be vitamin C serum? Is it going to be La Mer? Is it going to be Skakin? Like you need to be prepared and I'm going to blast all my rosacea. But like Skakin is every day when I go to do my face, I'm like, when I go to do my skincare, I'm like, my skin looks good. I should do what I just did. So I do Skakin and it's amazing. I believe it for sure. But back to this positioning, I agree. Now she's sort of taking this angle of like, I'm obsessed with looking young.

I'll do anything I can to look young while still minimizing her reliance on the real stuff. She says she's never had filler in her nose or in her lips or her cheeks that right now she has a little bit of Botox. But she's getting overox so she's gonna let it like fizzle out but like I'm sorry lay people don't look like this at 41 what did she have a facelift if she really has no filler and a little bit of Botox like then what is it yeah I feel like she's never lying in the interview because the interviewer is asking do you have Botox or do you have filler? To those things, maybe she doesn't have those things. Right now, yeah.

What do you have? Where can I get it? Yeah. And also, I don't really believe like every person who's famous owes us a detailed explanation of what they do plastic surgery wise. I think this expectation that like every woman has to say exactly what she had done. I don't need to know what everyone has had done. But if you're talking about the process of staying young and some of the things that you do then now that

the can of worms is open I want to see all the worms. Agreed. I just maybe it has to do with the fact that she's like dating a younger guy but I feel like her recent like obsession with youth is like it just doesn't feel so Kim to me. I feel like she's so proud of, like, the years under her belt and all that she's accomplished. And, like, I don't know. I just, like, and Allure to me is, like, kind of like a tacky magazine. I was just, like, you were just, like, on Vogue. We were watching you on Keeping Up and Sports Illustrated.

I'm like, Allure, that's like being on Lucky Magazine. I know, but, like, Allure is beauty. And I think this is all for Skakyn. Yeah, it is. And so this is her approach to aging. She says she's at peace with not being perfect. She said I hate my hands. They're wrinkly and gross and also you can't fix hands. She said but I've lived life and I've changed so many diapers with these hands and I've snuggled my babies with these hands so I'm okay with them. Getting older doesn't mean that

I won't strive for perfection but you get to a point where you're like okay my health is more important than anything else. But even though she knows the aging process is natural it doesn't mean that she won't do everything in her power to look and feel young for as long as she can she said it's hard to explain because I'm at peace but I would still do anything to look and feel youthful yeah and I think there's also something to be said for the fact that Kim probably leads an extremely healthy lifestyle plant-based working out and all that definitely contributes to how you look like when I'm 40 I'm gonna be old and haggard because all I do is drink and eat poorly like and that's on the consequences of your actions

she also doesn't drink she doesn't right she doesn't drink I think there's a lot of things she does outside of like skincare dermatology that contribute to her looking really good and I think that's a thing in Hollywood where a lot of the women look younger than they are because of all the things that they do but also for like 20 years they've led like no meat no alcohol green juice cleanse clean and that totally helps i'm not saying it's everything but it's definitely a factor like you are what you eat yeah you are what you eat that feels like one of those like fat phobic sayings i don't think so well it does it's very literal you know like you'll look like how much you eat right but in this you know context who she sends yeah yeah you are like if you if you're eating processed you'll

feel like junk and you'll your skin won't be glowing but if you're like on an all fucking even when you did your dumb ass juice cleanse like you did have like bright skin and white eyes like if you eat healthy you'll feel healthy yeah and so it's definitely a huge part of like why women in Hollywood look younger than they are but it's also everything else that they're you know have access to yeah so this obsession with youthfulness is just not my favorite Kim era but I support her nonetheless and we'll still take a bullet for her so yeah and I'm a big fan of Skikin so and I thought the photos from this look were beautiful from this shoot and it was different I feel like we just had

this conversation it's like the same kind of like looks for the last couple months like leggings lycra spandex and this is different and I thought she looked great she's just like covered in hair yeah like look at this shirt it's made of hair Yes I saw that and I also did like they had a one shot in the spread of her glam team. Yeah. So Mario and Chris got in there which is probably really fun for them. Yeah and because it's a beauty magazine. And she's the glam girly. It's pertinent to the situation. I loved it. Love it. Okay next up another Kardashian story because Kylie is on TikTok clapping back at people who are making shit up and I'm really living for it. Yes. So Kylie Jenner accused a TikTok user of lying for attention after he claimed to have heard

her son crying while delivering an Instacart order. On Thursday, she posted a video of herself making a sandwich and we all talked about her Subway sandwiches. Yes. And then someone on tiktok said that he thinks that he delivered the ingredients ingredients to her house because he had a bag full of these ingredients and he said he came he's an instacart driver yeah he came through the gate and he heard a baby crying he drove through a river and he believes that it

was kylie's house and she put it under a fake name that's what he said and so she commented saying the line for attention rubs me the wrong way sorry I did not order this myself he was tipped through the app lied to about seeing my son about seeing through my windows and hearing my son cry so she's saying like I couldn't tell if she was saying it's not true or it was him and he was tipped through the app no I think she was saying it's not true because she also said that he's talked about a river and that she has no river on her property. Yeah. And let's say for argument's sake that this Instacart driver did deliver to

Kylie to be in someone's home and like near their kids and then like blow it up on social media. It's just like so tacky and like, so I think evident of like the culture we live in where like everyone's obsessed with like blowing up celebrity spots, like no matter the cost. So let's say it was him and she ordered under a fake name and he got the ingredients,

whatever. I feel like, I feel like he could have made a video and been like, I think I just delivered to Kylie. Like that was so exciting. Like to, I don't know. Like it just feels kind of icky to me beyond to be in someone's home and

like blow it up with everything you saw. Right. That's so even if that was the, if it was true, it's. everything you saw right that's so even if that was the if it was true it's it ain't right and i think unethical and also indicative of this culture where like everyone just like wants to go viral and have their moment and like catch a celebrity hey look at me yeah like at what cost right and so i agree with you oh my god i just i think i'd deliver to kylie like that's pretty cool as opposed to being like i think i heard her son crying like the fuck yeah like oh

kylie's only person who has a baby and by the way i just have a hard time believing kylie wanted a sandwich and instacarted food like i just know her house is oh the kardashians you see their kitchens like they have everything at all times like it's not like she needed you know a filet of salmon or she sent someone to the store yeah it was just like basic grocery items that most people have in their house bread lettuce mayo turkey like yeah who knew that this sandwich would cause such a ruckus you know what i did when i saw it it was like the world can't handle this sandwich and honestly like this is why kylie stays the fuck away from us like she can't make a sandwich without someone claiming like they made the sandwich you know right it's just

like everyone's taking credit for her sandwich can't make a sandwich in peace she should or open up a sandwich shop Kylie's Kyway Kyway it's my way or Kyway they should open a restaurant I love that like Kylie called this guy out but then it just like sets a precedent that you could like make some shit up and be called out by a celebrity and you get attention right and then also I'm sure she feels about it like you know if I call out this person then I have to call out every other untruth and if I don't call out those untruths then people might think that they're true but you know what sometimes you don't have to set a precedent and you just gotta shut a bitch up no sometimes you just like do what you fucking feel yeah you know and not worry about like what

precedent does this set for my brand? What this means for the next time. Just let them know. Yeah, let them know. So I'm glad that Kylie's sticking up for herself. Me too. And also, I hope this doesn't stop. I hate this trend, and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

And, like, it's people just, like, live for, you know, talking about, like, their celebrity encounters, making stuff up, as we know. You know, taking a picture of a celebrity when they see them, putting it on Dumwan. It's just, agreed it's like it's we've reached a new level of like obsession with celebrities and literally look at us getting out of bed every day obsession with the celebrity it's about making how that exchange benefits you yeah and puts down the the other person sure but it could be good good bad, whatever.

But it's how that benefits you. Oh, so-and-so ate at this restaurant that I was at. Don't forget I was there. No, and just I think it's like this whole thing of taking things out of context. Like, oh, I saw Shawn Mendes at a restaurant and he was so rude. Really? Were you sitting with him talking? Like, you don't fucking know. Shut up. Yeah.

And so it's just like this obsession with what you think you saw and you saw nothing right but also with knowing things first like just being in the know and even when people like write in like oh I know that this person is pregnant yeah so so you know no somebody so somebody had messaged us when um Catherine Catherine Foster what's her name Catherine McPhee what's her name now McPhee Foster Catherine McPhee Foster was pregnant um because they had been in the waiting McFoster they'd been in the waiting room at their gynecologist together um and that just felt like and they dm'd it to us and that just felt like a huge breach of HIPAA even though she wasn't a nurse like yeah it's just a violation of humanity yeah and it's just like okay so she's pregnant and you know so what but I also feel like it's

taken us MJ time MJ like we've come around to this conclusion like maybe just like growing up and having like experiences and and now I can see it as like okay so you know something you're the first person to know something who the fuck cares yeah no that lesson came to me in like such a humbling and honestly like earth-shattering way Mercedes Javi who like now is one of my really good friends but at the time she was just like a reality star who I loved and I got like a very reliable tip that she was pregnant so I posted it on our Instagram um and she literally commented like no I'm not and she was but so I posted it on our Instagram um and she literally commented like no I'm not and she was but she had like an exclusive with people and she wasn't ready yet

like I was just being this annoying fucking bitch barging in on her moment like right it was and in that moment I actually I was at an Ed Sheeran concert when she commented I remember it I was like oh my god I'm literally like a piece of shit rat I'm literally that reporter from the Hannah Montana movie like I'm disgusting I have no code of ethics piece of shit rat. I'm literally that reporter from the Hannah Montana movie. Like I'm disgusting. I have no code of ethics. Piece of shit rat. Rat.

And I never did it again. Like it's not our fucking business. And like you're right. So you get to post it on your Instagram first. We used to kind of. And then what? I feel like we used to be those people though that it's like we want to be the first to know.

If something happened, we want you guys to have come and found it out from us. And it's like not only is it like, okay, have come and found it out from us and it's like not only is it like okay so say you found it out from us like cool but you're also like that's someone's private personal business yes that also happened to be like last year with Kylie and I mean not Kylie with Travis and Kourtney's engagement somebody was on the beach and sent me a picture everybody was on the beach yeah and it wasn't really private and I posted it on my Instagram I just felt icky about it so I it. Right and they did wind up announcing it really soon and it wasn't the sort of thing that they were trying to keep private but it's just like. Icky. So what? Yeah

and I feel like I'm I at least hope and think I'm getting much better at that. Like I don't want to be that rat. No I don't think we have any sort of inclination to do that anymore and you know what it does take some time and maturity to get to that place. Yes. I think maybe everyone's just hopefully one day will come around to that is what I'm hoping. You know? Yeah, they're going to get on our level soon.

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I know I said yesterday that nothing in the housewives world could even shock me anymore but something has Heather Gay and Meredith Marks joined Jen Shaw in New York City for her upcoming trial Heather Gay and Meredith Marks are part of the Shaw squad in New York City while she's here for her trial let me just say one thing. This is why Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is not that bitch. The women are so finicky, so flaky, go so below the belt with one another. And then the next episode, not even the next season, it's like a clean slate. It's so difficult to follow. They have no loyalty to anyone, not even to themselves, and that's why this franchise is not what it should be. So what you're saying is they don't have scruples?

Thank you. They have no... Have you no scruples? The Real Houses of Salt Lake City stars supported their co-star Jen Shaw by traveling with her to New York City less than two weeks before her upcoming fraud trial in Manhattan federal court. The three Bravo Leberties, whose friendship may come as a surprise to viewers, yeah, touched down in the Big Apple earlier this week and have been documenting their many adventures together. In one Instagram story posted by Heather, the threesome posed for a selfie in a dark restaurant.

Heather captioned it, my coven. They're just like doing a million things together, promoting books, taking pictures of each other. And I do not understand the Meredith Marks right because I think of all the women she's probably the most principled and this is not something a principled person would do no and her criticism of Jen has seemed

the most final there's no coming back from it even if like not even like we'll ever be best friends but can we even get to a place of friendship I don't know now she's part of the squad at the trial it's just such a bad look and honestly I don't really know a lot of the legal stuff around Jen's trial but I just know like you don't get put on trial by like the U.S. government without going to jail for some amount of time. Yeah. This isn't like a criminal case where it's like, you know, innocent until proven guilty or like there's a jury.

Like when the U.S. government is the one indicting you, like because they have proof. Right. Like concrete proof. They don't just like go out on a limb. Yeah. Also like what's also confusing is Jen, there's a picture of her here like wearing gucci sandals and a gucci purse that are this season gucci so where is that money

coming from and like remember when she took money from her mom who was a school teacher for lawyers so like where is she getting this renewed money i'm sure she's still making money from the show and on instagram but she has to pay her retainers and if she has money to spare like she should be paying her mom back now that's actually really true and it's this season they could be fake I don't know just to keep up her appearances no it's hard to tell from a photo that little purse that is so fucking cute on the couch yeah no for sure that is and I feel like fakes don't really come out like when the new collection comes out it's like next year these are Gucci sandals that are Gucci and they're this season no that's definitely an interesting point you're very detail-oriented I just was just looking at these sandals because I think they're so cute it's like the same thing it's same shit different

year like always been confused about her finances even now yeah but now like she could post a picture like this look at this picture where she looks like you know yeah she's dressed to the nines you could argue that that's all old stuff that she bought pre-trial you're saying it's a new season i get it when it's this season yeah make it make sense i mean make any of this make sense make the meredith part make sense yeah i am looking forward to like getting some kind of closure from the trial i feel like we've been talking about it for a while and it got pushed back it was supposed to be in march so like let's see. Like she's playing this card of being framed. Let's see. She's brain bridged.

Literally. Yeah. Stu is testifying against her. Like it's not going well. No. So in two weeks it starts. So we will be down at the courthouse. No it's literally going to be like.

Just kidding. It's going to be like a trial that everyone's watching. I wonder if it's going to be televised. Was none of Teresa. Did Teresa ever go on trial? No I feel like she took a everyone's watching. I wonder if it's going to be televised. Did Teresa ever go on trial? No, I feel like she took a deal. Yeah. So it never played out in court. Yeah, but they do say there was,

remember how Ghislaine wasn't televised because they say like federal trials aren't televised? It varies per case. I think it's what state you're in. It will benefit Jen greatly if it's not televised. Yeah, of course. She's not exactly like. If it is televised, it's going to be the new Amber and Johnny. greatly. If it's not televised. Yeah of course. She's not exactly like. Because if it is televised. Like it's going to be the new Amber and Johnny.

Yeah. And she's not exactly. She doesn't have a good track record. Of making herself look good. And she's not a professional. I mean she is a professional con woman. I guess allegedly. And I actually.

I think she would probably. Want it to be child. Because she'll probably have her looks. And she can put. She can maybe try and win over. People's hearts and minds. Knowing that people will be watching. But I think it will behoove her if it's not yeah so very curious to see what the outcome of this trial is and I don't understand

these two morons tagging along yeah no truly I understand Heather no every time I think like Heather can't get like a lower grade in my book. She does something moronic like this. Yeah, but this doesn't surprise me. Heather has decided, you know, whatever Jen is guilty of, even if she is guilty, Heather doesn't care. But like Meredith up until this point has been incredibly scrupled. Scrupled, yeah. And it's confusing when someone goes from scrupled to scrupulous.

They lose their scruples. They can't find them. Right. Maybe she's just lost. Maybe. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yes, ma'am. Someone we've been talking about a lot this week, Hayden Penetier's ex, Brian Hickerson,

confirms that they've split permanently. Got it. So this is in line with her press this week, her new start, fresh start. She is no longer with Brian, who is the guy that they were- Is that the father of her? No. No, okay. This is the guy that they were like brawling in the parking lot with the people.

He's bad news. And there's been a few other incidents. Of like violence. Right. So he was caught by paparazzi this week and they asked him how him and Hayden were doing to which he responded, just, you know, friends. They asked more directly if they were still together and he said, no, absolutely not. Okay, good.

I mean, he's obviously, I think like the timeline of when he entered her life was when a lot of things started to go bad for her like just two people who aren't right for each other but I did want to mention that I watched a little clip of her people magazine interview where she shared the fact that her daughter lives um between Germany and Ukraine and she doesn't live with her daughter she doesn't live in the same country as her daughter and she was like on the verge of tears talking about how like she talks to her and her daughter still loves her and she like doesn't understand why and she's just so grateful that her kid is so great it was like so emotional um and I feel like it was really brave because I think like a lot of people she would

like they would be wrong for it but a lot of people would judge her for like letting her child live in another country with her dad but Hayden like knew her own limits and her faults and like let her dad have full custody um and I thought it was like really I was I didn't know any of this and I was like shocked by it and also like really um in awe of the bravery to speak on it because it's it's so personal like it's really nobody's business like what the custody but it was really shocking oh wow she did she she looked beautiful and like she was like on the verge of tears the entire interview it was really interesting to like get an update on her oh I want to watch that clip because I didn't realize that she voluntarily.

Yes. Let her daughter go. I think she's just been struggling like since she gave birth to her daughter. She was very public about her postpartum, like really bad postpartum. And it just spiraled from there with like bad choices and bad men in her life. And so, yeah, she, she I believe willingly wanted what was best for her daughter and that wasn't being with her which must be like literally the hardest decision on the planet to me totally and this week of talking about Hayden Pentiero was making me

think about the week when we talked about like Jessica Simpson every day because she was writing her book and I and I think it's time for a Hayden book oh my god by the way a hundred percent I don't know if she's there yet like emotionally or mentally but when she gets there and it seems like she's definitely on her way especially if she's no longer with this guy if she's like being able to sit down and talk about really hard things and talk about addiction in the rear view mirror oh my god yes that would be an amazing book an amazing book I love that publishers get to it start writing some offers that's a great idea and those are the fast five. Feel as though you need to know them.

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Thank you. All right.com slash toast. Thank you. All right, Southern Charm. The pinnacles of the episode for me were them discovering Madison's engagement, of course. And it reminded me like how bizarre it was that she announced it on Amazon Live. Yeah. And I'm surprised they even gave Amazon Live that much press.

One, saying Amazon Live multiple times. And two, feeding the stream into the show. Like they must have some sort of. They have to like license it or something. Because usually they have to like block stuff out.

But I did think it was interesting when Craig broke the news to Austin and he was like, Madison is about to go live and I think maybe announce that she's engaged. And he checked his watch.

Almost like he knew that she had a live stream at two o'clock. Like he was like obsessed with her schedule. Like I just thought like the fact that he looked at his watch. Almost like he knew that she had a live stream at 2 o'clock. Like he was like obsessed with her schedule. Like I just thought like the fact that he looked at his watch was really suspicious. Yeah. Okay.

Like oh is it 2 o'clock already? Time for her stream. Like it was just it was a weird thing to do. I didn't notice it. I was like perplexed by it. Yeah. Confused. It's really crazy that like we just heard that she's in a new relationship

and that they're getting engaged at the same time. I do wish Madison was a cast member in her own right because it seems like she has a lot going on and also like she is just television gold like yes every scene that she's in she's a scene stealer she always has the best one-liners and she is so polarizing and that's what people love and I think there are a lot of people obviously who don't like Madison but there are a lot of people who love her I really like her I think she's great on television and I think there are a lot of people obviously who don't like Madison but there are a lot of people who love her I really like her I think she's great on television and I think she's just like herself and I want more Madison she should be a full-time cast member she gives so much and by the way I thought she really put Vanita in her place when she needed to that was so surprising

yeah welcome because she wasn't just being like an um indulgent friend enabling her friend's poor bad behavior like usually when you sit down with your friend you just like agree with them especially if you weren't there but two the girl that they were going for is austin's new girlfriend so she's all or austin's dating girl that he's interested in so you would think that madison would like be excited that everyone's coming for her but the fact that she stood up for her i was just like just when you think you know Madison nope and by the way she was a hundred percent right like Vanita why do you care about literally any of this not one bit of it has to do with you and I think Vanita is just fueled by her hatred of Catherine but so she's acting just a little irrational and I was she was like bothering me

and I couldn't put my like foot on it or finger on it making this first of all it wasn't even a big thing between Naomi and Olivia and at the end of the day they're talking about a third person it's not an issue between Naomi and Olivia it's an issue between Naomi and Catherine so they're having this like third person exchange and then Vanita's coming and she doesn't like the way that they're talking about their issue with someone else and it's like there's too many cooks in the kitchen Vanita totally escalated it it's not a a big deal. She was just asking a question. And I don't think Naomi cared that much. And as Madison said, Naomi's very smart.

She can stand up for herself. Right. Like she doesn't need, like Vanita. She doesn't need backup. I think Vanita is getting more involved in the storyline now. So she wants to have like a hand in everything, which I totally get. But it's making her look just like a little annoying and thirsty. Yeah.

And I also found it interesting because I just caught up on last week's episode when she was talking about her business of influencing and I really appreciated the respect she put on influencing like it's not just snapping a photo and moving on with your day like it's a full-fledged business that you can make a lot of money from but I was shocked when the way she was talking about making seven figures a month and I was like how many followers does she have she's 80,000 followers which is probably more than she had when she filmed that because right because she's been getting followers yeah and so I was just confused how like you run a seven figure a month business with 80,000 followers well did she say she makes seven

figures a month or that you can make seven figures it sounded like in the past she had made seven figures not consistently that would be amazing that was just surprising yeah because that's a lot of money to make even when you have millions of followers yeah every month so I was confused by that um but I did appreciate a lot of the to make even when you have millions of followers. Yeah. Every month. So I was confused by that. But I did appreciate a lot of the respect she was putting on. Oh, for sure. And she has great style. And I'm very looking forward.

And her content is premium. Like, I went on her Instagram. Like, she takes it serious. And I respect that. Yeah. Also, like, that scene was from two episodes ago, I think, where Benita and Naomi are playing tennis. And they just look so effective.

Yes. So effective. Yeah. Like, that's what we come to the show for. Yeah. And her cloth. Like, she's premium. But I think she's premium um but i

think she's having a hard time finding her footing as an official cast member because in past seasons she's just kind of been like someone's sidekick yeah and now it's her moment and i think she wants to make the most of it and she's like not sure what to do with it yeah and she's taking i just taking it out on the wrong people and places next week also what's so funny is madison says i have a client who would let us use their house and I think next week it's Patricia's house I thought she had another client with another house and I'm like that's really nice that clients of course it's Patricia last season she had a client or something who used that big house with the tree house yeah and it was on the water yeah it was beautiful yeah that's true so maybe it's not Patricia's no but it Patricia's

there next week and it looks like Patricia's house we'll see why wouldn't she just say Patricia by the way sad about Whitney's dad and I feel like have they ever spoken about him no I found that whole thing interesting like so many pictures of Patricia Patricia Altschul is that woman and she is the seven husbands of Patricia Altschul and as much as we're hard on her and her role in this show, give us Patricia's history. Give us a documentary. Like I just found those pictures to be fascinating and she was selling art.

Like she really has lived a thousand lives and that little sneak peek was really interesting. And it's all led her to be like this woman in this house with this wealth and eating McDonald's and her Bentley and her tray table. It's true. And how did she get here? No, we need like a full thing.

Yeah. We need like a book. You know who's turning into like one of my favorite like random supporting characters? Pringle. Oh yeah. He's like, I felt like we got a little too much of him last season.

Like I don't think he has what it takes to be like a full on cast member. And I feel like he like switched places with Vanita almost. Yeah. And she's good for it and he's not and I think this is better for him yeah because he just seems like a guy that's easy to get along with but I think when we saw too much like it was too much yeah no it was like I wasn't

I was like please stop yes also you just said Pringle who was I oh you know who else I like Shep's cousin oh Shep's cousin I like her too I like her too and I like Shep's girlfriend yeah me too a little bit she's not what I thought um I guess we got a little bit of her last season but I I like that she you know knows that soon what she wants and that like she's gonna have to go her separate ways to Shep but they're still together today and like Shep just settle down it's really not that scary no it's not like when what's scarier is like being you yeah of course but for me like and this is what I say sometimes during dear toasters

like guys who are in full-fledged relationships living with women who are afraid to get married like literally nothing changes I can totally understand being afraid and not ready to have kids that's huge settling down into a marriage is literally what you're doing now but like a little better like I'll never understand that so Shep has just been bothering the shit out of me like I'm I'm so over him and I feel like he's long extended his like playboy thing to a point where it's not cool or funny it's sad you know who he's becoming Thomas yeah what's also crazy is that Thomas and Catherine are still in a custody battle even after everything that came out about him in the last few years i thought all of that meant like he literally sexually assaulted their nanny and she pressed charges i thought that all meant that

like katherine should have custody of their children when i heard she had them only every other weekend every other weekend that must fucking torture her and they're with thomas all that other time terrible terrible and then Terrible. And then Catherine and Caleb. Yeah. I'm honestly like so annoyed with Catherine. Like I'm upset for Caleb. But like you know what? Blessing.

Like she's extremely chaotic and toxic. I know. But then just seeing their dynamic with how close she is with his mom. Like it just made me realize there's so much more to their relationship that we don't know. That we don't see. And like that her kids love his mom. And like like I you can't stay in a relationship for someone's mom I am now sad and when Caleb was first on the phone with his mom talking about Catherine and we didn't know yet that they were close I was like oh my god I can only imagine what Caleb's mom

thinks of her I was yes and then to hear that they're like even closer and it just goes to show there's even layers of Catherine that we probably don't know that you know because the person that you would see on the show like it's like oh how is she getting along with anyone however her driving in the pouring rain on the phone without looking up at the wheel like she was giving me such bad anxiety anxiety the rain was insane she was so fidgety with her phone she wasn't even looking at the road yeah it was driving me nuts yeah me too also she was driving over to Craig's apparently because they had a conversation where she's wearing that outfit and we only get it in a flashback. Yes.

Yes. Good call. Anyways. I'd like to be Caleb's mom. Given what we've seen about Caleb and Catherine in just the last two, three episodes, I will be sad to see them. I will be sad to see them split up because it seems like there's just, you know, a closeness that we don't know about.

Yeah. Those meatballs did look good though that she was making. Yeah. And it was a sad that nobody ate a morsel. Devastating. Those meatballs did look good, though, that she was making. Yeah, and it was a sad that nobody ate a morsel. Devastating. But what did she put the meatballs on? I would have assumed rice,

but it had a more creamy, like, polenta consistency. Maybe it was... An orzo? Risotto? Yeah. Interesting. Damn, nobody even ate it.

It wasn't really that crazy of an episode. I feel like it was, like, a pause, like, before something big. Yeah. Well, I guess because Caleb and Catherine are going to break up right like I really like Madison's engaged she's having that girl's tea time at her client's house next week and it looks like they're Vanita and Olivia are going to get into it and Vanita and Catherine yeah Vanita just needs to go straight to the source like you obviously fucking hate Catherine stop being mad at everyone around her and just be mad at Catherine yeah for whatever your reasons are go for it yeah but she's making herself look just like a little messy by taking her anger out

on Catherine on literally everyone else yeah I'm like Olivia who's so new to the group where it's like and she whatever she said even though it's like kind of dumb like her intentions were earnest in in Naomi's house yeah I don't want to have I don't have an issue with what she said it felt like she was actually on a fact-finding mission and that she's not just gonna write Catherine off she clearly like knows Catherine even a little bit and so it's like let me give this person a shred of the benefit of the doubt no and you know what no matter what the situation is on a reality show and like everyone's talking shit about someone and then one person is like it's not really fair to like talk about a situation when the person's not here even if I hate the person like I actually respect that mentality like it's not fair to debrief and

like pick apart a situation about a person who's not in front of you so like one person standing up and then getting like attacked it's it they were like they were saying afterwards like I don't want it to seem like we were ganging up on Olivia but like that's actually what you were all doing yeah so yeah no and I I liked um it was it Olivia who said like whenever there's a situation where everyone's against one person like I who said that I don't know Madison talking about Olivia yeah yeah yeah that was a nice moment from yeah it's like everyone just chill chill anyways it's good I love the gang I love you oh my god i love you too the next time you guys see me i'll be an old maid old maiden type of shoes um and the next time they see us

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