The Toast - Salmon, iOS & Saoirse: Tuesday, May 19th, 2026
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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know.
We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast.
I sound amazing.
Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday.
I'm choosing and I choose you today, tomorrow, and forever.
That's so beautiful, Co-Chair, and I'm so glad to see this sunny environment has influenced a sunny disposition.
Absolutely.
Lots to be excited about today.
One, we're together.
We're together.
We're together again in studio.
So if you're listening, like, feel free to watch your girls swirl around.
Even though if you watch every day, like it does sort of feel like we're together.
It's always a pargy viewing experience, but this is just extra fun.
That's beautiful.
It's lots to be excited about today.
One major launch for the Spritz Society team, as you can see, the boxes behind us have changed, you guys.
We teased sort of, like, we were overhyping, but I do think that the product and the launch
demands the hype that we gave it.
We are launching a brand new product.
I literally think that's actually a flaw of ours.
That we don't hype enough.
We don't hype enough.
Because this is like an industry changing product.
It is a skinny sprits.
That's our new launch.
As you can see the boxes behind me.
It's a skinny spritz.
It's the classic Italian sprits that you know and love.
But we made it skinny.
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It's like skinny girl summer is here.
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Like it's poured over a glass of ice.
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Yeah.
So we're having a skinny girl summer.
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Yeah.
I love that.
So many things I want to talk to you about from yesterday's episode.
Okay.
The first is that I got a lot of feedback about who Jo Ellen looks like.
I do.
And I actually feel bad for Joellen that we like open up this.
It's the rudest thing you could do.
It's like Claudia's worst nightmare.
Like everyone sound off with who you think Joellen looks like.
But it's like bothering me so much.
And while I don't think anybody really got it 100%.
No, nobody scratched the itch that I'm thinking.
The most popular answer and the one I see the most is Topanga, Danielle Fischel.
So I agree she does look like Topanga.
But it must be somebody in my personal life.
Mm-hmm.
Because nobody really got it.
Well, Joelle and herself has said that she looks like a mix of Topanga and Teresa Judeyce.
Which is, yes, she does.
Look at the cast photo.
look at the cast photo.
Oh yeah, I got a new iPad, everyone.
Because I left mine in New York
and like we always need more iPads at Toastage Chew
and I just want to say I spent the morning setting up an iPad.
And I wish everybody who like
who was a part of making this iPad and the setup system.
I wish them the worst things in their life.
Like seriously, the way my morning was fucking ruined
having to get my Apple ID and setting up a passcode
and then like all my texts got on here
even though I explicitly said,
don't transfer anything.
Miserable morning.
Sorry, what was I doing on my?
What was I doing that?
Look at the cast photo for Rory because she does look like
Teresa Duda. There's a sprinkle of Teresa in there. Trey.
Someone said she looks like America Ferreira. Claudia didn't like that call, but I did.
Her cast photo, like, with all the women or alone. Some people say she looks like Olivia Oshray.
Oh, she does have Olivia Oshray sprinkled into her. She's like, okay. And I just want to say,
I don't feel bad about these celebrity doppelgangers because everyone we're mentioning is pretty.
Like, she, Joellen is pretty. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's like not like a.
Oh, in the cast photo, she is giving, um, Trujc, Trie. Yeah. They all look like Delores.
Yeah.
And then like Alicia and Liz do sort of look like each other until you watch more.
Did we say that Kelsey looks like Olivia Colpo?
Other people have said it.
For me, she's Galgadoad and in the episode I was watching last night from the angle that I was
seeing her face, she was giving Kim Kardashian.
You ever get a glimpse of Kim with her?
No, but actually, Joellen is also giving Kim.
Interesting.
It's insane how they all look the same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you watch any more last night?
No, I started the viral series off campus.
Have you heard about it?
I've heard, like, that's all I've heard viral series off campus porn.
The funny thing is, is like, oh, one of the porn books that I didn't read got made into a TV show.
And I'm watching and I'm like, I think I read this book.
Check my good reads this morning.
I did read this book.
But I don't have any recollection of like her being a music major.
I thought she was an ice skater.
But then I think that's deal breaker or icebreaker.
That's they should turn into.
So I watched it.
And like, obviously people are just-
Who's making it?
Prime.
Who's in it?
Nobody you ever know, except the girl.
You're telling me that's not Barbie Ferreira from a euphoria.
Like I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
You know, it's got your classic makings.
It's getting overhyped, like, just because of the porn.
Is the show, like, amazing?
No, but, like, I'm starting to fall in love with the characters.
And, like, it's cute.
But it's only something I could watch while Ben was playing basketball with your husband
last night because if Ben walked in and was watching, like, the actual, not even the porn,
but, like, the acting, like, it's humiliating to be a part of it.
Like, I'm ashamed to be watching the show, but I will be finishing it.
You ever have one of those shows?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, I just feel like there are some porn shows that are so, like, I think a good example
is what's the, um, Daisy Edgar Jones one?
normal people?
Was that the show?
Sure.
That she did with Paul Mescal?
Is that the book?
Normal people.
That was like a beautiful show
while also being porn.
Oh my God, I loved it.
Hayden.
The show that I'm watching now
is like legitimately,
like some of the worst acting,
the worst to everything.
Like hallmark.
The fake college that they go to.
Like it's just like it's so fake.
It's like ABC family.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
Perfect example.
But it's good.
And I like it.
And the characters,
that guy's really cute.
But like it's stupid, you know?
Mm-hmm.
But I wanted to,
obviously because I'm a part of a viral show. I had to like watch the viral show, you know?
Yeah. It's my job as sort of our viral correspondent. Oh, okay. Have fun. There's, you know,
product placement. There's a liquid IV product placement. It's sort of a storyline. I want to say,
good on liquid IV for getting involved in a viral show, but in a unique way. Like, obviously they're
all athletes. They're collegiate athletes. So you would think like, okay, they're having liquid
IV, but no, there's a storyline that like one of the athletes gets a liquid IV with his sponsorship.
But it has to be with his dad who he's a bad relationship with. Like, it's funny.
Oh, interesting. Yeah. And they're like, you should do the liquid IV sponsorship,
with Graham, like whatever.
It's funny.
It sounds great.
Oh, and also...
I haven't seen that much of it, though, yet.
It hasn't, like, totally bubbled up to the surface.
I'm early.
Like, yeah, you're early on the curve, but I have been hearing, like, a little bit.
Yeah.
But, no, as far as, like, need to watch is for me.
And I'm, like, literally bedtime last time.
It was a two-hour-long affair.
It's amazing that I got to watch any Rory.
I will tell you when things, like I told you, you need to watch Rory.
You do not.
No, no, no.
I'm not watching that show.
No.
Tonight, though, is in the same.
city premiere along with Summerhouse
Summer House. Oh, is it the finale? I think so.
That's exciting. It's giving like,
you know, like I've had enough. I'm ready for the reunion. Beverly Hills to
absolutely. They had their big
premiere. For me. Amanda was there.
She's good. Yeah.
I mean, they all owe her a huge thank you.
Enormous. Like Lindsay and Kyle and everyone needs to be sending her flowers because
not only did she like make this season of Summerhouse like she has solidified
that their show that, you know, most of
shows suck and don't go anywhere and nobody wants to watch them.
She has solidified that their show will be a hit.
Like, you're welcome.
Absolutely.
And I've ruined my life for you guys.
Well, she didn't really do it for them.
She's so fucking generous.
She didn't really do it for them, but I hear you.
She's so selfless.
Beyond.
She's always thinking of others.
They seriously owe her a thank you.
As mad as they are.
In a backwards kind of way, like they are all being lifted up because of her sins.
And they all look like heroes, even though they did not do anything.
They all look heroes.
They did not do anything.
Yeah.
They just aren't her, so, like, it's good.
Exactly.
No, I love keeping her.
And they get to, like, take the moral high ground.
Yeah.
Even though they've, they've sanctioned these sorts of, like, incestuous relationships in the house all along.
Except for Lindsay.
Her crime, like, doesn't really hurt most of them.
Like, yes, Sierra and Kyle, I'm not talking about, but, like, everyone else who's now a hero.
Carl's a mess.
Like, poor Kay.
And it's like, Carl, you were very much, like, on your way out.
Like, you weren't asked to be a part of in the city.
You're, like, not bringing that much anyway.
So, yeah, they all owe her a huge debt of great.
gratitude, aside from the people she actually hurt.
Yeah. But still, like, you could make the case, like, the pain of, oh, your man and your friend,
but then they also say, like, they weren't that close with her in the off season.
There's, like, people saying that. So your man and your friend got together, but you are now set for life.
Yeah, it's kind of one of those, like, would you rather?
Would you rather your man and your guys, seriously answer, answer me this. Would you rather?
And your best coworker. Sorry, not your man. A guy you have, like, a very toxic history.
Your ex-crush.
No, your ex-boyfriend, current situation.
Current-crush.
Very toxic.
Would you rather, like, just he goes, runs away with, like, a girl who you're really
closer?
They wouldn't say that's, like, your best friend in the whole world, but, like, someone you're
really, really close with it.
You're a good co-worker friend.
Good coworker friend who, like, you see out, not out of the office.
But in exchange, like, you get fame and fortune.
Like, what do you think?
Yeah.
I mean, personally, I'm going fame and fortune.
I don't even want the fame.
Because I, like, have my head on straight.
Right, right, right.
Right.
Right.
And I could see that, like, that, like, that toxic.
sex situation ship slash ex-boyfriend cycle.
Like, it's not going to work out for me in the long run anyway,
so I might as well cut my losses and become famous.
Yeah.
More famous.
Also, I was watching Ariana a little bit of her on Watch What Happens Live.
I don't know when she was there or why, but Andy was like saying, you know,
how Sierra is getting like the Love Island dream and dancing with the stars.
Like, have you given her any advice?
And Ariana's like, she doesn't need advice.
She's going to be amazing.
But it must be like a little spooky for Ariana because like, it's like, it's
exciting that it's happening for someone else.
They're literally like following in her footsteps and it's giving like out to pasture.
It's giving the substance.
She's to be more and Sierra is Margaret Qualey.
No, it's giving like expired.
Yeah, no, like there's a treadmill and it's like Ariana was going.
Now Sierra's coming.
Yeah.
So it's like if she's doing all the same things Ariana's doing, that means Ariana wouldn't be doing those things anymore.
Like if Sierra is doing after Sunseco's well, like what would she be doing?
Hosting.
Yeah.
And I do think they should mix up the hosts for Love Island.
They do, actually.
This is like their fourth or fifth host.
So yeah.
So it's like it's not all great.
You know?
But Ariana has to sit there and be like, I'm so happy.
I'm so proud.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
Yeah.
But I'm just like, that's a little weird.
Like, she's gonna take your jobs.
Absolutely.
Your job's uh.
Your job's uh.
What's next?
Chicago on Broadway?
I don't think she would.
I don't think she sings or dances.
Like, I don't think she has.
But she's doing dancing with stars.
Oh, oh, wait.
So like if she really impresses everyone.
But like you can learn to dance.
I don't think you can learn to sing.
You can learn to sing better.
But if you have no chops, I don't know if she has no chops.
But is it a really like vocal, heavy role,
Roxy?
The name on everybody's lips is gonna be
Roxie.
I feel like you could do it.
Because it's like, yes, you have to sing.
You have to just like be good at things.
You don't have to like be incredible
and you have to sell tickets.
It's more like the ticket selling role.
You know, I was just watching speaking of Chicago,
a vlog from the actress Danielle Monet.
She played Trina Vega in Victoria.
And like one of her iconic lines from Victoria's is like,
Chicago.
Have you ever heard that audio?
It's from Chicago the musical.
Turns out she was up for the role of Rocks.
same she lost it she shared a whole vlog about how I was upset she was but like it was like this
amazing process you know yada yada but that would have been huge for like for the millennial core
yeah Trina Vega actually playing roxy when I think she like played roxy in the victorious adaptation
at the academy of victorious right right whatever school Hollywood arts that would be beautiful
um we've actually a lot to do today because of course like we're launching a huge business like I said
skinny spreads available now exclusively a target um we have dear toasters of course we have stories
I guess that was your TV recap
because I did not watch the new Rory, I will.
But it's also like, I'm kind of feeling stressed
because tonight's also like the next game.
And like...
And tonight's summer house in the city.
I know. Ben was like making plans for us to go watch
but I don't think I can.
No.
I'm stressed.
Like lots of content.
And I also haven't even cracked open
Rockers Bell Burden.
I'm telling you.
I brought it to Florida with me.
You're never reading Copper's Belburd.
I have to read Copper's Bell Burden,
Hayden Paneteer's memoir.
And what was the third book?
Oh, someone remind me. I had three books on my nightstand in my emotional nightstand.
Do you think you add it to your good reads? Of course not. What was the third book I wanted to read?
What was it? Lena Dunham. Oh, yeah. I actually really do.
Copper's well burden. This week, I'm taking on so much. I started Rory. I have off campus. I have now in the city. Like, it's just a lot. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it. Yeah. I don't know how I'm going to watch all that TV tonight.
I know. Like bedtime is just a blood mass. It's an hour's long affair.
these days. So we'll see. We'll say. We're doing our best. But we like actually have to watch summer
our house finale and yeah of course so like the next game like sorry I'll have to tell bed and like I can't
yeah in fact might have to take the lead on bedtime. We get together and watch or like the the boys could
get together do bedtime together while watching and watch the game and actually then they can watch
the game with the boys like they could watch a little bit of the nickn't actually nice. That's cute okay
we can go upstairs yeah just into the bedroom you know do our thing
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Our first story. Today's stories are quite random, like a lot of programming news, I would say.
It's giving modern TV guide. Yeah, it is. So Ella Enchanted TV series is in the works at Disney Plus with Anne Hathaway producing.
So a new series is in the work at Disney Plus. People confirms that they are in the early stages of developing a new TV series adaptation of Ella Enchanted based on the 1997 novel of the same.
name and the movie of the same name which starred Anne Hathaway and came out in 2004.
I didn't realize it was based on a...
Based on a book loosely.
I have a truth I need to share.
You never saw Ellen Enchanted?
You didn't like Ellen?
I've never seen Ellen Enchanted.
Oh, that was the truth.
Oh my God, everyone just gasp.
Yeah, no, I've never seen it.
Like, I feel like it's always on.
It's definitely like an E movie we love.
Uh-huh.
It just missed me.
It's...
And I get confused with the Amy Adams one.
Enchanted.
Oh, right.
I've never seen that either.
Isn't that crazy?
That movie's amazing.
Which is better?
Enchanted.
Like, you're obsessed with one of them, which is it?
Enchanted.
Okay.
And James Marsden's in it.
You're kidding.
It's so good.
You know, James Morrison is like in the new season of your friends and neighbors and
like we're learning more about his character and he's like increasingly just like really
fucking evil.
Oh, don't.
And it's really crazy because like he never does evil.
No, but he's also in that show that was like, oh my God, lightning in a bottle.
But then.
Dead.
Wait, dead to me.
Dead to me.
With Christina Applegate.
And Linda Cardellini.
Uh-huh.
Such a good fucking show.
Did he play someone evil?
He also played twins.
Maybe one was good and one was bad.
Yeah.
So he has range.
And you know what?
He's not too long to release that last season.
He's not just Corny Collins.
But he is.
He was too good at Corny Collins because I'm like,
Courtney Collins is not an evil arms dealer.
But that's why he is good to play someone that is an unsuspected.
Yes.
Evildoer.
Yes.
Yes.
But anyways, this is Ella Enchanted, which Anne Hathaway starred in the 2004 movie.
movie it's about like a
16 year old
who's cursed at birth to obey every
command and just like
cutesy fairy tale. Yeah
I feel like this is
kind of a trend we're seeing like we're
prequilling and schmequilling and I don't want to be a
hater because I haven't seen this and I don't know and the L1
looks good prime video
but just like bring back Carrie Diaries you know ahead of its time
yeah no this sounds good
why is Anne Hathaway working so hard
like debt broke
yeah she's obviously in debt
I feel like everyone in the stories today is broke because everybody is working so hard
and doing things that they do not need to do when they have a lovely living, they have families.
Are you talking about the Jonas Brothers?
I am talking about the Jonas Brothers, which we'll get to.
But like for Anne Hathaway, seriously, like she's taking on so many movies right now,
like great, exciting projects, really classy stuff.
Nothing bad.
She hasn't gotten to the point where she's desperate and she's putting out bad shit.
But like, why do you want to work so much?
Like, why?
Yeah, couldn't be me.
But I imagine like maybe she has, you know, a lot of family that she's supporting or
like a gambling addiction. I don't know because she is doing a lot and I think that like maybe she wants
a plane or something. Yeah. I would like to know that. So like what what motivates Anne Hathaway to work
this art? I worry about her because she's kind of fallen into the trope of like being beloved and then
becoming hated because like it's just too much of a good thing and it's like a lot of exposure.
And she's kind of she's not there yet but she's doing a lot and I do feel like when you're doing a lot
and you're like so well liked because people just are how they are like you will become hated.
And I can see her like falling down that rabbit hole again. No, I don't think it won't happen again.
it won't happen like that.
That's kind of like Taylor.
You know,
like Taylor's never going to get to that place again
because she's ascended.
Like,
but when you do burn bright and fast really quickly,
it fizzles.
Same with like Jennifer Lawrence that happened to.
Like everybody loved her.
And then like they,
everyone like thought it was cool to hate her.
And then you get to like a place of just like stability.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I don't think she's going to have it down again,
especially because she keeps making quality work.
And it seems like the world has come to appreciate her.
Well,
as long as she doesn't cut her hair.
Like that's really what the whole thing was.
She was so artsy because she didn't burn bright and fast.
She actually like really worked.
Yes.
From Princess of Genovia and then she all the way up to lay miss at the Oscars.
She cut her hair.
And it's like we could only take so much from celebrities.
Like you're giving your speeches and it's just out of touch, whatever.
And you also have a bad haircut.
She's now, I think a lot of her like buzz and why people love her is like her fits.
Like she's kind of a fashion icon like out of left field.
And she needs to keep up with that.
It's not as like flashy as a young person.
Like it's kind of nice.
It comes with age.
It's just like a respect.
Yeah.
And you don't turn.
respect, you know?
Absolutely.
So I feel like that's also what's happening to Taylor because she also got that like, oh,
her awards of speeches are so phony.
Right.
Why do you still think like over exposure?
You're shocked to win everything.
Like that's how Anne Hathaway was sort of being.
Yeah.
I guess people don't like that.
Remember when she took her Oscar and she says, I will use this as a weapon to fight self
doubt.
It's like, girl, get out of here.
Maybe it's the self doubt that keeps her working so hard.
Maybe, but she is doing a lot.
And this is like producing.
You know, it's not even acting.
Well, she had to, if they were going to do it, they had to, like, get her stamp of approval on it.
Like, it's kind of how Reese is on.
But she's hello sunshine.
Like, she's actually making it.
I think maybe Ann Hathaway is doing more than just, like, being an in-name-only producer.
No, I think that actually is good credit to the film because it's like, even if she doesn't do anything, never shows up for one day.
It's like, if she's a producer, like, it feels like an extension of the movie that was so loved.
Absolutely.
Okay, fine.
So maybe she's just cashing a check here.
Yeah, yeah, which we love to see women in business.
Yes.
Okay.
I just, you know, I worry about her.
Where is it going to be?
Disney Plus.
Oh, of course.
Of course.
I like that.
Yeah.
I think Disney Plus doesn't have like a lot of...
Going home.
It doesn't have like a lot of shows.
Like, what do you watch on Disney Plus?
Like, you watch stuff for your kids and like national geographic.
Yeah.
But it's like, do you see the new Disney Plus show?
No, I guess they put it all on Hulu.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
Mm-hmm.
Some other people that like want to keep working and don't want to go home.
The Jonas Brothers.
The Jonas brothers are starting a podcast called Hey Jonas and it's available now.
This is really crazy to me.
and I don't know why I keep letting the Jonas Brothers surprise me.
I don't know if the Jonas brothers know how famous they are
because they're always doing things that are in Congress
with their level of celebrity.
Like this is a band that sold out multiple nights at MetLife Stadium.
Like that's what Taylor Swift does.
I was going to say Taylor's.
That's what Ed Shearing does.
That's what Coldplay does.
And it's like they don't also do Jonas Khan.
Well, they don't have to split in three ways.
So I do think a lot of what we see from the bros
is the fact that they have to split it three ways.
So they need three jobs to make one whole income.
Correct.
And they both have families.
Like they spend a lot.
But they all do like other side ventures.
Like Nick has tequila, coffee, popcorn.
Nick has a solo career.
I keep listening to his music in my car.
Yeah.
I feel like everybody's obsessed with like Bruno Mars' debts.
And it's like, well, really, I'm not worried about Bruno Mars.
He is the biggest artist in the world, like on a global scale.
I actually am worried about the Jones brothers.
This is very lowbrow.
It's a recession indicator.
It's on I heart radio.
So like I get the musical element.
But I don't know.
It's really, it's worrisome.
Well, I want to say there's two ways this podcast could be.
There could be like, you know, this is cash grab.
It's IHeartRadio.
It's like not like a serious show.
But IHeart Radio is also a legitimately bankrupt company.
And I just want to say they're not, we, when we were out to market like with our show, like IHeart
Radio was like making offers way less than everybody else.
Like they're broke.
Yeah.
So I don't think that they're like like insane.
They didn't get like an insane deal.
I don't.
So but just listen.
If they were at serious XM.
There's two ways that this could be going.
And I just want to say they should have done this at serious XM.
because it would have been less shady.
Not even about the payday,
because if you have an audience,
you will have money.
And also maybe they want to be in good standing with Iheart
because they run the radio stations.
They need radio for their music career.
So, like, it's all.
That's what people do who are like,
seriously one year in the industry.
Listen,
so either this is like a fake show on IHartRadio
where they like just do like.
Pre-recorded like nonsense and like games and stupid shit.
And like nobody's really listening.
But think about it for a second if it were like an actually good show.
Like and serious.
And like they talk about like,
fatherhood they have on guests they get like introspective they talk about brotherhood and family
family and history it could be like armchair expert yeah i don't know why but i don't know which one
they're going for and i don't know why i just don't feel like shows like that are capable of being made
when they're at i heart radio i know that sounds really crazy but it's all just like kind of corny
buzzy like filler for the radio yeah are in um cult on um i heart radio last cult i was like
Colch. Last Colch. What is she talking about? Last Cult. Yes, and I do feel like that's why they're so popular, because they're so different. Like, they're act, they are good. Like they. I was listening to the radio. Oh, when I was in Dallas and I didn't know how to put on music. So I just, I just like scared driving. So I just like stayed on the radio. Claudia, my commute was 25 minutes. I didn't hear one song. But let me tell you, I heard four advertisements for Last Cult podcast. Right. That's what I think. It's a broke company. Like they just do commercials. Yeah. So I do think that they're like the
of Iheart radio, and I do think they're an extremely popular podcast, and I wasn't talking
about them. Sorry, I didn't realize that they were there. This is not being shady to anyone.
Maybe they could, it's possible. It's possible. It's possible to have success there. And there's
obviously, they could go anywhere, Las Colch. There's something that keeps them there. Right, right,
something. That's true. Maybe it's all those commercials they're getting. I mean,
I could use a commercial. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's fair. Imagine there was four commercials an hour
telling, like, relevant listeners to listen to the toast. I think that moves the needle.
For sure. No, no. And I get like the radio aspect of it. But it just feels in Congress with their level of celebrity.
But I do feel like at their level of celebrity, they could actually have a very successful, introspective.
You know, and the thing about podcasts is that when done right, even by celebrities, it's career changing if you have a really good one.
But I don't know if they're doing this with the intention. Are they doing this with the intention of making it really good? I don't know. Or is it just like to check a box?
Give me a list of celebrities who you think are on the same level of fame as the Jonas Brothers.
Also, I want to pull the podcast is available now.
Like I want to see what the description is.
What are we doing here at Hey Jonas?
Okay, I just want to say that like the list of people that chat gave me, like they should have podcasts.
Five seconds of summer.
I feel like that's insulting to the Jonas brothers.
The chain smokers.
I also feel like that's insulting to the Jonas brothers.
Dan and Shay.
I also feel like I feel like chat actually thinks very lowly of.
Or we just think like a little higher than Jen Pop, then Jen Pop.
No, I'm telling you, the Jonas Brothers.
maybe like are they
are the Jonas Brothers like not cool
or famous like am I?
Do I have a skewed?
We definitely are
are more into the Jonas Brothers
than Jen Pop.
Really?
I feel like I'm always meeting people
who are like Jonas.
Because you're meeting your fellow people like you.
But I'm not even like Jonas Kronis.
What do they call themselves?
Like Jonistas?
I don't know.
Here's the description.
Hey Jonas.
Hosted by Kevin, Joe and Nick.
It's the Jonas Brothers you know,
musicians, actors and well, yes,
brothers.
Now they're sharing another side of them.
themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way, only they can.
Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like
never before.
Okay, deep conversations.
What's your first episode?
It's a, oh, there's a trailer or an episode?
There's a trailer and then there's a 13 minutes episode.
What is the description of the first episode?
This is Hey Jonas.
Join Kevin, Joe.
Okay.
The same thing.
Let's just, can we listen to like a minute.
I feel like it's going to be really produced.
Like, getting to a great idea is hard to get their ads.
Excuse me.
We have our own ads.
Get out of here.
Oh my God.
They're not reading their own ads.
How many minutes of ads?
So how do we actually come up with a name,
Hey Jonas, guys?
Brilliant question.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
And we were thinking, I'm originally calling it
one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
Reco hosts is a lot.
We had sons of Jonas.
It had nothing.
Jonas Jonas.
I don't think you're right at all.
We were talking about a thing.
That's a guy they're talking over each other.
Say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad.
Hey, Jonas.
And offered it up as a potential title.
He's taking credit.
He's taking credit.
They have a really toxic relationship.
Well, thanks, Nick.
Mine is just a little bit more exciting
of an elaborate story.
So really, this story.
I don't get any extra credit, you know,
like podcast.
points. I just want to say I would love to just to hear listen to another podcast on our podcast.
Yeah, I know, I know. And call it a podcast. Yeah, right. Is that a thing? All right. I feel like everyone in
the world had a podcast, so we just felt left out. Okay. We needed a focus. We needed the money.
Well, I was thinking more that we had a lot of really important things to talk about. That's true.
You know, we don't spend enough time with each other as it is. So why not just fill the space between
soundtrack and the show with a podcast where we have to be together in a closed environment.
They're optimizing their schedule. Habit stacking.
Habit stacking.
I mean, why not make a couple grand in this hour when we're just sitting here taking a poop?
Because a couple grand split three ways after taxes and commissions is $3.
Even more.
No, that's a great.
It's a good idea.
We should definitely do it.
Pull a question from the bowl.
That's low.
All right.
Let's get a question.
Therapist.
Just do random questions that have nothing to do with.
And I'm sorry, three people is too many for a podcast.
I'll take it.
Nick.
Oh, okay.
No, I think it's Nick.
We could all answer it too.
Maybe not, no.
I think we could all answer.
We don't know what's in the bowl.
It's great, Nick.
This is for you, Nick.
Do you pee in the shower?
Oh, yes.
I do.
I love to.
And or.
And that's so.
So it's the first kind of podcast.
Yeah, well, the thing is, I will give them grace.
The first episode of The Toast was a shit show.
Like, you have to give grace.
It takes people a couple of episodes to get on their feet.
I'm worried about three people, especially three people who I feel like struggle with
who's the leader, who's the middle.
Like, and I think Nick thinks it's him.
and I think that Joe thinks it's him
and I think Kevin thinks it's Joe.
But I also feel like Kevin might be feeling like
this is my time to shine.
I'm the smart one.
I'm the one ever.
The fans are grown up.
The fans like me,
I'm a father.
I'm the one who like makes good choices
and his self-less and settle down.
Put the big.
Like you two are like rock star egos
but like when it comes to a podcast
you want to hear from the Kevin
with the life advice.
It's very true.
So maybe he's also going to be like talking over everyone
because this is his time.
Now Kevin is saying me.
He doesn't sing but he can talk.
I'm worried about them.
I still am worried about that after hearing the first episode.
But I just feel like knowing that the first question from the bowl is do you pee in the shower
confirmed it's the first type of podcast.
It's not deep combos.
It's not the second type.
Yeah.
They're not opening up a vein and bleeding out.
But I mean, also why do that on the first episode?
Like if you don't even know if it's going to be a success.
Right.
I feel like give it time.
It's not the worst idea.
It's not the worst nominees for a podcast.
It's really not.
No, it's not.
But I'm worried about them.
And if the concept is that we have an hour between sound.
checking the show and like they're just sitting there to like talking and like shooting the shit.
What they would be doing and now we're going to like record it and make money from it.
I think that's actually works.
I do think the live shows will suffer like doing a podcast.
People think it's nothing.
Like I'm sorry.
You have to like when I get done here, I can take an app.
Like you're supposed to give if you're going to do it right.
You give it all.
Like you can't actually.
That is the performance.
You know, I think that their tour will suffer.
Interesting.
Yeah.
And I will say one thing about them that, you know, that you really cannot knock them for is that
they are amazing performers.
Like what they will always have, they should tour forever because.
Maybe other financial.
I don't know if their new music streams the way it used to.
But they have a really big fan base and they can tour forever and make a living from it.
They should do Vegas residency.
I believe that they did.
I believe it was enormously popular.
Because like their clientele would go to Vegas.
That way they could like put their kids in school in Nevada.
No.
I mean a lot of people live in L.A.
Oh.
And go out to Vegas on the weekends.
I'm just like trying to keep them home, you know?
That's what Adele did.
She was like when I went to her show, she was talking about how like this is the most amazing
work life balance she's ever had because she's in L.
all weekend and she, I think, you know,
Caesar sends a jet. She jets back and
forth every weekend. Yeah.
Well, no, I meant like if they got houses.
Oh, they have a Vegas residency that starts tomorrow.
Cool. Okay, so we're on the same age.
Oh, so maybe it's like a Vegas residency
podcast. They didn't make that clear.
And maybe the Vegas residency is like sponsored by a
higher radio. But no, but I was saying it's like they could get
houses in Nevada. They could live there.
Not everyone wants to do that. Brady Spears did that. I think when you have a
residency where you actually perform on the weekdays.
Like Donnie and Marriott.
I know you're right because Adele was weekends with Adele.
And it was a short stint.
I'm saying for 20 years the Jonas Brothers should live in Nevada,
put their kids in school, Vegas every night.
But when you do that, you have to be okay with like you're now entering like a season of
retirement almost.
And I think that some of the egos in that group, Nick is so not down.
Nick loves like SNL and like, you know, being like swirly.
Yeah.
Well, I think that it's.
And Joe is single now.
like they're not doing that. Kevin would do it.
That's our stable king right there.
No, but he has deep roots like where he lives.
In Jersey, yeah. Are you ready for our next story,
which is some more music news? And I'm glad that people are talking about it because Spotify
Oh my God. This is fucking disgraceful.
And I'm sorry, as partners of Spotify, I love you, but undo what you've done.
So they say their disco ball icon, which prompted massive user backlash,
will go away next week as planned.
Okay, so I assumed that it was like a 50th anniversary.
No, I'm sorry.
time I saw that logo I thought Spotify was downloading on my phone. Yes, of course. And I'm like, why
don't I have Spotify? Not only that, but I feel like people haven't even noticed. They like,
now what, when we're talking about it, they're like, yeah, I saw that. But they didn't even like
realized what was happening. I literally had to like get out my magnifying glass to see what the new icon is.
And it's like a disco ball, Spotify green ball. So I also thought it was downloading. And then I saw
it was like a special edition logo. And I said, oh, this didn't pass like a user experience test.
but I'm like, I'm sure it's some anniversary
and we'll be done tomorrow. And it's been like
five days, far too
long for such a poorly
constructed logo. I feel like
I know nothing about graphic design. I am
not proficient in Photoshop.
And this, and you know
how many people it took to get
this made, approved, launched.
Not one of them said, you know, this is
bad. I didn't know
that this was happening. I thought maybe
like it only happened to me. What's it in celebration
of? So hate has rained down on Spotify.
20th birthday party celebratory disco ball icon.
The streamer acknowledged the backlash
and said the old 2D logo
will return to users' photos.
Phones next week as previously planned
under the temporary icon switchout.
So they're saying was always going to be changed back.
It's not just because everybody hates us.
Sure.
Without warning last week,
they debuted the glowing green mirror ball icon
for the mobile app on Apple's iOS.
It was meant to be a fun celebration
of the first 20 years connected with Spotify 20.
iOS or iOS?
I've never heard anyone say iOS.
I read what I saw.
Cool.
I love that.
My I see IOS.
That's like hooked on phonics.
It's hooked on Jonix.
Like you just are living in your own world.
1,000%.
And I love that.
What did I say?
IOS?
Yeah.
I feel like everybody says iOS.
Like when you update to the new iOS, not the new iOS.
Oh, you guys are living in the past.
I'm in the future.
Absolutely.
Spotify appears to not have expected this intense reaction for many of its users about the
appearance of the disco ball with many slamming it as a visual abomination.
Yes, it's a disgrace.
One person said the person.
and who designed this logo should be fired.
Absolutely, by the way.
Like, this is a definition of being bad at your job.
Yeah, yeah.
And then Spotify said, we know glitter is not for everyone.
It's not about the glitter.
Oh, my God, gaslighters.
That's, honestly, I'm living for the statement.
It's like, I know you guys are ugly and don't have taste, so we'll change it.
Our temp glow up and soon.
Your regularly scheduled Spotify icon returns next week.
Whether that was always the plan or not, they're acting like this was exactly how they wanted to go.
Next week, I'm sorry, we can't wait that long.
And let me tell you, it's everywhere, because I'm,
I logged into car play.
And even on the car play, it's the disco ball.
It looks better there than on the phone because it's bigger.
But it's still so bad.
And Ben was like, what's that?
I'm like, I can't even talk about it.
I had no idea that any of this is happening.
I'm so glad that we're talking about it.
And like that we're just like shedding light on this national issue.
Disgrace.
This outrage.
Yeah.
I'm glad that they know that we hate it.
Yeah, despise.
I love being a Spotify partner.
Love, but this doesn't change the fact like I have to be honest.
It's ugly.
Go back.
And it's confusing.
Worse than ugly.
Like, it's confusing.
We didn't know it was your birthday.
We rely on you so much.
Our favorite podcast.
All of our favorite music.
I use Spotify like 20,000 times a day for foo, for me, for work.
And I'm sorry, the user experience was temporarily sidelined.
Fix it.
I wonder if it harmed our numbers because people thought like their Spotify was downloading.
Check our analytics for this week.
Cut me my check, Spotify.
So all will be right next week.
All will be right next week.
My life begins.
next week. Are you ready for our next story?
Which is your genuine nightmare.
Oh, no. What?
So Ryan Gosling was fired from the
Lovely Bones movie after gaining
60 pounds for the role.
Wait, not only is that my personal nightmare. Who was he
supposed to play The Dad? The Dad. You know what? Mark
Wahlberg did always feel
sort of strangely cast, and I guess it was like a last minute thing.
But why, the dad being fat has like nothing to do? Why would
he have to gain 60 pounds? He's literally just a
suburban dad. And I just want to say, Mark Wahlberg
wasn't even fat in the movie. So it's not a role that
required him to be fat. This is what I mean when I say like actors are so drama. No, imagine
gaining 60 pounds for the job that you got and then not having the job. So why did he?
So Peter Jackson, the director of Lovely Bones. And I'm glad that the Lovely Bones is still
being talked about. It's the best movie ever. He's speaking about it like at Cannes Film Festival.
As he should. Like seriously, as he should. Um, so he's finally weighing in on Ryan Gossling's
infamous recasting in the Lovely Bones, which I didn't even know that was happening. He was
supposed to pay Swar Shear Ronan's dad. Sir Sharonin. Like seriously put some respect on the
lovely bones his name but Susie was not her name in the movie Susie Salmon yes but revealed salman
I can't with you like Salmon Eos what did you just pronounce weirdlice swar she
exactly um but Ryan Gossing revealed to Hollywood reporter in 2010 that he was fired from
the movie after he gained 60 pounds for the role without the director's consent oh okay
That's what I mean.
So, yeah, like, why you can't, when you get cast for something, unless they tell you,
you can't change the way you look.
Like, no, but during a conversation in Cannes, after receiving an honorary award, Peter Jackson
was asked about Ryan's revelation and spoke candidly about the decision to drop him from the movie.
I just want to say the reporter who like, this guy's getting like a lifetime achievement award
and they ask him about this like random movies for 20 years ago.
That reporter is a listener.
Pulitzer.
Yeah, Pulitzer.
That's the type of shit we need to hear about.
Yeah, like.
So random.
I love it.
He said, I won't talk about.
any particular examples of actors because it's a personal private thing and it's not their fault.
Anytime we recast an actor, it's actually our fault because we didn't get the casting right and
we cast the wrong person for a role. It's not because they did anything wrong, so I'm not going
to talk about individuals, but you just got to realize that what you're imagining isn't really
quite happening, which means that we got it wrong and so we take full responsibility. He said,
Ryan is a fantastic actor, as we know. Films are chemistry both on camera and behind the camera.
Their chemistry in terms of what the actor conveys to the audience of the film. It's just a
complicated sort of amalgam of communication of how somebody gets into a group of gells into a group of
people into a story into a character it's complicated and usually you try very hard when you're planning
the film casting it trying to get that gel kind of right but occasionally we make our own mistakes
like this is where I find like people in cinema to be so obnoxious like it's very complicated
like you couldn't understand it's literally like a movie yeah you're pretending yeah right
you're all just like a bunch of pretenders and we don't get it okay
Ryan had said in 2010 that we had a different idea of how the character should look
I really believed he should be
210 pounds.
Why?
We didn't talk very much
during the pre-production process
which was the problem.
You can't go rogue
and just change the character.
No, I'd like gain 60 pounds
because you believe he's fat.
And in the book,
Olivia read the book,
I never read the book.
I read the book.
Was he fat?
Like,
that was so, like, not the story.
Right, like,
but maybe he couldn't, like,
save his daughter because he,
I don't know.
He said it was a huge movie
and there's so many things to deal with
and he couldn't deal with
the actors individually.
I just showed up
and I'd gotten it wrong than I was fat and unemployed.
Literally me.
Obsessed.
Oh my gosh.
It's a funny story.
Swarshey Ronan on a podcast in 2024 spoke about it.
No,
if you've seen the movie, it's like all these insanely talented serious actors and
then Mark Wahlberg.
Like it makes no sense.
Who plays her mom?
Swarcy said that the cast had already done some prep by the time Ryan got fired and she
had bonded with Ryan.
I'm sad to see him go.
Of course.
I mean, who wouldn't want to work?
with Mr. Gosselin.
And also she was so young, you know?
Yeah.
So, like, that's a bummer.
But I'm sure Mark Wahlberg was fantastic.
I had no idea this movie had so much drama behind it.
Oh, Rachel Wise.
She plays the mother.
She's such a serious.
I'm telling you, it's such serious.
Susan Sarandon, Stanley Tucci, Michael Imperio from the Sopranos.
Like, I'm telling you, Sertia Ronan.
And Sersia, who went on to be, like, the biggest thing.
It's such a...
A.G. Mishalka?
Classic.
She must be, like, one of the friends from school.
Give her flowers.
And then, like, Mark Wahlberg.
He must have been really trying to do, like, serious work at the time.
Oh, yeah.
Michael Imperiole is, like, the detective who figures it out.
But I, I watch some clips of Lovely Bones on Instagram sometimes.
Me too.
I see them all the time.
It's one of those movies.
And I've seen the scene of, like, Mark Wahlberg, you know, like, poking around the backyard,
chilling stuff.
Have you seen the scene of the sister up in Stanley Tucci's attic?
And she, like, drops the floorboard and he hears it, and she runs out the window.
Yep.
Yes, I have.
And I didn't find Mark Wahlberg to be like...
I mean, he had, like, a pharaoh.
To stick out, like a sore thumb.
No, no, no, no, no.
But if you like like it's just he did a good job at the job, but like us knowing it's weird if you know.
I guess.
Yeah.
He was like out of character.
It was just weird.
Maybe at that time he was trying to be taking as like seriously as a serious actor.
Yeah.
And then he was like, this pays no no bills.
Right.
Back to 10.
Okay.
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Our fifth and final story is a little more movie news.
Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter, Apple Martin,
is making her movie debut in a Nancy Myers film.
So a lot of exciting bits here.
The more exciting part is that we're getting a Nancy Myers film.
Nancy Myers film coming out in like 2027 in theaters.
Oh, in theaters.
Working title is like Paris Paramount.
It's actually a semi-autobiographical story of Nancy.
And we don't know what role Apple will play,
but some of the other big names include Penelope Cruz,
Kieran Culkin, Jude Law, Owen Wilson.
Tony Hale and Aaron Dardy.
There's a couple of repeats, Nancy.
Read them again.
Penelope Cruz, Karen Culkin, Jude Law.
Jude Law has done Nancy Myers the holiday.
Owen Wilson.
Owen Wilson has.
Probably.
Yeah.
Tony Hale.
I love him.
Buster.
Buster.
Buster.
And also, do you think even more as Buster or as Gary from Veeb?
I feel like these days I actually associate it more with Gary from Veeb.
Yes, but he is so Buster.
Like the two come to mind.
But he's so Buster.
And also the name is like Buster Blu.
The Buster's iconic, like the name when he like lost his hand.
Yeah.
Well, this is exciting.
A lot of pressure, I want to say.
Like, not only is a Nancy Myers film, like it's, they're sort of cultural landmarks for,
she doesn't make a movie that often.
It's like I feel like every maybe five or 10 years.
So is her first one since the intern came out in 2015.
That's crazy.
And so there's a lot of pressure just because.
Which is really the best movie ever.
They're all the best movie ever.
Like she makes the best movies.
So there's a lot of pressure.
pressure because it's that.
But also, like, her mom is Quinteth Paltrow.
Like, literally one of the greatest actresses.
I mean, and her grandma.
Like, Danner.
Yeah, like, I'm sorry, the pressure's on.
Like, she better, she better get to work with it, coach.
Like, she's going to be amazing.
You think.
It's in her blood.
Yeah, it's true.
She comes from a line with great women.
And also, just like, look at her.
We could just look at her.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Like, I don't want to just look at her.
Like, give me something.
She will.
She's going to be amazing.
And the movie, this is the premise.
the movie is about a group of people making a film and the magic and mystery of what we do.
So I think the working title at one point was called Paris Paramount.
Which I don't like.
But I think it was like about the Paramount lot and like making a movie about Paris.
Paris.
So it should be called like Paris at the Paramount.
But I don't like it.
Yeah.
No, they're not doing it.
Oh, good.
Okay.
But like that's, so we know it's about like Paris Paramount.
Paramount.
Oh, and also just like can't stay away for movies about Paris.
Yeah. Or maybe Paris can't stay away from him.
That's beautiful.
I love Owen Wilson.
I love him too. I really love people.
I love all of the Wilson.
I love all of the Wilson.
I don't sleep on that on Emmett.
No.
Do not sleep on Emmett.
Luke.
Luke. The lesser known, but more handsome Wilson.
Yeah. No, they're both so successful.
Like, we need to talk to their mother.
I agree. They were raised by a great woman.
We should also start a podcast.
Where we talk to the mothers of great people.
And not just like people, but like siblings, you know, like the Jonas Brothers mother.
She's definitely.
But she definitely has her hands full with them.
Absolutely.
Breaking up fights in the dressing room.
They're probably always tattletailing on each other.
But like I would love to talk to her.
That actually would be a great.
Of course, Donna Kelsey.
It actually would be a great podcast.
Better than namesake, I want to say.
So I think we would call it just mother.
Wait, that's actually really good.
Don't steal it, you guys.
Let us do it.
Okay.
In our own time.
We have a lot going on right now.
But, like, one day we're going to have, like, time back, you know.
Yeah, it's like when you read that book about Winston Churchill's mother.
Jenny.
Like, it's obviously interesting to read about a great man, but what's more even interesting
is to read about their mother.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But sometimes great men are born from, like, evil mothers too.
Of course, of course.
So we won't have the evil ones on.
No, no, no.
But I am also interested in, like, mothers of multiple grades.
I mean, Andrea Swift is our first, like, dream guests.
But mothers of multiple grates.
Well, yeah, but also mothers of grace.
Of grades, yes.
But, like, you did it, like, more than once.
Yeah.
You did it more than one.
The Wilson mother.
So it's not just the child was incredible.
It's like you are the common denominator.
The Culkin mom.
The Culkin mom.
The Hughes Brothers mother.
Of course.
The hockey.
She's a hockey player herself.
Yeah.
I love it.
Yeah, it's a good idea.
I feel like someone's going to steal it.
Don't.
Well, we have proof that we came up with it.
But I guess like if someone stole it, it would mean like I'm getting the content I wanted.
Without having to lift a finger.
And I'm getting the interviews, you know, and the insights.
Yeah.
Maril Street.
She's got a couple of Nipbo kids.
I feel like I'm okay.
No, yeah, because she's like the famous person.
We'd have to talk to her mother.
She has NEPO kids.
That's different.
That's different than creating greatness from nothing.
Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where every Tuesday, Jackie and I try
to get back to our community and help out the girls in need.
Write into us if you're dealing with anything, Deertasters at gmail.com or head over
to our website, the Toastpodcast.com.
Today we have two submissions and actually an update from last week.
So let's start with the submissions.
Hey, Jackson, Turn, I have a huge problem and I don't think you're going to believe me.
My boyfriend and I have been talking about marriage for a while, but we recently started to seriously discuss engagement, what I would like, what type of ring I want.
While having one of the conversations the other day, my boyfriend dropped a bomb on me.
There are two things that I have to agree with before he can even ask me to marry him.
My boyfriend comes from generational wealth.
The men of his family have been lawyers, judges, some are even politicians.
It's almost like being around a royal family.
One of the stipulations is signing a pre-up, which I have no problem with, but the second thing shocked me.
I have to go to their family doctor and get a whole body checkup.
I mean blood work for genetic testing, extensive family medical history questionnaire.
even a psychological evaluation.
I was completely unaware that this sort of thing happened in 2026.
Is this normal or am I crazy?
I don't know if I should marry this man.
Ooh,
a lot of trust.
I don't like the psychavowal.
I don't like that this is with their doctor.
Like if you can go to your own doctor and get all the paperwork,
look, I'm not crazy.
I don't have any diseases.
Fine.
But like it being their doctor and they having like your blood,
like I don't know,
what are they going to do is you clone you?
No, like if things go south with you guys down the line,
they'll like use the psych eval and like they can say whatever they,
they can have.
their doctor evaluate you have, but they want to be like, this woman's crazy. She shouldn't have
custody. In 2025, yeah. Oh, Jackie's right. So, like, I actually think the idea of getting, like,
a workup with a future partner, like, it's so crazy. But, like, I can understand that. It's, like,
good to know each other's, like, health, right? But I don't like it with their doctor. And I don't
like the psychovow. So I would. I would push back. Push back on the psychovil and be like,
I'm happy to do all this with my physician. He's a great guy. Or, like, a third party physician,
but not with yours. Yeah.
Let's say it's like a non-negotiable.
Like, no.
That's really scary.
Then you really have to be aware of what you're signing up for.
And I do really think that will be like if things go south ever, it will all be used against you.
Yeah.
And but it's like, or would you want to be single?
Right.
Or like marry someone poor.
Or like marry into this like wealth.
But like if you married into like the royal family say like I'm sure there's a lot of crazy shit like that.
Absolutely.
So like do you want this life or you do not want this life?
Think about your future.
And these lives don't come for free, you know?
Absolutely.
not. There's no such thing as like a free ride.
Yeah. And if there was, I would have found it.
I would push back and just push for your own
doctors. Yeah, without the sight. And I feel like that's
that's actually like very giving of you because you're
agreeing to everything. And if they say no, like that's a red flag for them.
Like I what's the point? Like why does it matter whose doctor it is? That means
they're fudging with the. And I really don't like a psych about. I don't know
why. They just gives me the willies. Are you like, what have you done? They're also
fraudulent because they like give fake ones to everybody who goes on reality TV.
And like crazy people right. Right. Right. Who have done crazy things.
Yeah, agree.
To prove that they're not crazy.
Yeah.
Like, you're just a sweet girl who wants to marry their son.
I would push back on that.
I didn't know stuff like that was happening much like Cynthia Evo.
It's kind of exciting.
Yeah, it is, it is.
But like, girl, protect yourself.
Yeah.
But it has potential to be exciting.
And I would also talk to a lawyer.
Yes, yes.
You have to get one for the pre-up anyway, but I would ask like a, try and find a good lawyer.
Don't cheap out.
This is something you pay for.
To explain to you like what all of this could mean for you one day, both positive and negative.
And also, if you're going to sign a pre-up, make it good for you as well.
You know, it's not just going to be like you get nothing.
You're out on your ear. Buy loser.
Yeah.
Like you can get stuff in a pre-up.
Yeah, absolutely.
So get a good lawyer.
Yes.
And don't do anything without like lawyers present.
Copper's bell burden.
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Oh, I don't know what that means.
I'll find out soon.
Popper spell burden.
All right. Next step. Hey, Swirlies.
My best friend from out of town came to stay with my boyfriend and I this weekend
and brought her new prodig bag.
When we get to the house, she throws her stuff on the ground.
We go on a house tour no more than three minutes later.
And what do we find?
A few puncture marks in her prodig from our cat.
I do want to preface this is my boyfriend's cat, and I've always hated it because it ruins plenty of things of mine.
But needless to say, I was so pissed at this damn cat and obviously it felt horrible for my friend.
A few days later, a few days after she left, she told me there's nothing product can do to help the repair.
And all they did was send her to a cobbler in New Jersey to try.
She didn't seem happy with that option and felt that there was an expectation for us to replace the $4,000 bag.
I do want to take some responsibility because it happened in my house, but honestly it was careless of her to leave it on the floor.
Even if my boyfriend and I split this expense, I don't think his cat's damages are my responsibility, but I also don't want to leave him.
with this hefty bill. What's the right call here? Love, a swirley that would rather spend $4,000 on her
own prodig bag. So this is very awkward. It's terrible. It's very bad. And there's no right
thing to do because if you replace the bag, like you're a schmuck, you just bought her a $4,000
bag, but she has a fine bag, but like you fucked it up with the stupid cat. I don't know,
throwing it on the floor, like that's an important part of the story. If it was up on a table,
like, absolutely you kind of have to replace the bag. But like throwing it on the floor, you should
be able to put your bag on the floor in someone's house without it like being.
Yeah, no, you should. You're right. You're right.
Like, they don't have kids. It's like, it's not a wild animal. It's a domestic cat.
Yeah. Well, how much does this friendship mean to you, honestly?
And also, if you do buy her a new bag, which I'm not saying that you shouldn't. I actually
don't think that you should. You should get the old one. And then you have a little.
She doesn't get two. You get a little banged up prada bag.
I really don't know.
Yeah. I don't know the dynamics of the friendship. If this happened. And also how poorly
beat up. Is a bag not usable?
Punctured. Right, a couple of little holes.
And like what's the, what's the texture of a bag?
Is it retan? That could withstand a little puncture.
Yeah.
Yeah. No, I don't think you need to buy her a whole ass new bag.
Like, say this happened to you.
Like, your friend.
Okay. Is it my bag or it's my house?
It's your house and Romeo punctured your friend's new Prada bag.
I would buy them a new bag.
But my financial circumstances allow me to do that.
Not everyone's too.
Yeah.
it would kill me.
Not very cardboard.
But also, who's the person?
It depends how much I love this friend.
I know.
And like, I do already hate Romeo.
So like, yeah, like, yeah.
The thing is you have to evaluate the friendship too.
Yeah.
Like, if you're okay with a little awkwardness and like it's like she's always going to like
She can to stay with you and your boyfriend.
Like you're close.
Yeah, she's always going to be mad at you for this.
Then you have to fix it.
If you can.
It sounds like you can afford to, but you just don't really know if you should.
Right.
Like is it on you?
And it's like, yeah.
And your boyfriend should pay for his wild.
Sorry.
It's not your cat.
1,000% your boyfriend has to pay for it.
But like, what if you won't?
And now you're stuck with like your friendship and you're punctured back.
I don't know.
A boyfriend who like won't buy a prodig bag and has a cat doesn't sound like a good boyfriend.
Why does he have a cat?
Let's talk about that.
What grown man has a cat alone?
That's so creepy.
Good.
Okay.
I was like, oh God.
Now here I am insulting everyone.
Oh yeah.
That was like one time in Nashville.
One time in Nashville.
I'm trying to say I was really young, but we like rented.
We like hired.
this local crew. We didn't know anyone there.
We were doing our show. And so we did our show in Nashville, so we hired.
Like, Randos.
And I was, I forget how it came up. We were talking about journaling. It might have even been
Dear Toasters. And just, oh, yeah, she was talking about how she read her guy's journal.
And it said mean things about her. Can we be mad? And Jackie was like, no, you can't be mad
when you read someone's journal. Like, it's their thoughts. And then I was also like, but also,
who the fuck journals? Like, what guy journals? I was like, that's gay or whatever.
And literally the guy behind the camera was like, I journal. And I was like, okay.
I was like that's, I didn't ask, but okay.
Journaling is so evolved.
No, I think actually I was like,
guys, do you journal?
And one of them was like, yeah.
Like I asked.
But how do you feel about it now?
It's definitely like a mature, introspective thing to do.
It really is.
It's like so enlightened.
But I just feel like if you're journaling, like you're not making money.
And if you're a man, like that's your job.
So why don't you go be a provider and save the journaling to the girls?
What if they're making money and they're journaling?
What if?
I just don't see how that's possible, honestly.
Writing things down takes forever.
But what if they don't watch TV and they don't watch sports and then...
And we're not going to get along if you don't watch TV.
Okay.
While I admire it, I don't know if I would want to be with somebody who journals, honestly.
That's fair to say, but like, can you, yeah, so you admire it, as do I.
I don't know if I could, like, that's just a lot.
I do think, like, my journal versus me?
My views on it have changed since that immature episode where I thought it was like a really
weird thing to do.
But that doesn't mean I want it for my own life.
I completely agree.
Okay. Now, our third and final submission is actually an update for maybe one or two weeks ago. Remember when we were talking about, and I'll read the submission about the girl who found that, like, her boyfriend slash husband was saying, like, how young are you? Yeah. Okay. So here was the submission. Hey, Spurley's. In classic dear, dear trusters fashion, I actually found out my husband was gay while searching through his computer and finding thousands of chats with him and men on Reddit. Think really vile, glory hole, talks of power topping and meeting up with transgender people. It was wild. The real dark part is that I saw a chat where he asked someone, how young are you? Weird, right? As a standard question is, how old are you? So on,
Unfortunately, I didn't see the answer as the rest of the conversation.
I was trying to take his many screenshots of things on his computer before he came down the stairs.
I filed her divorce.
Obviously, yes, I have an attorney.
But now I'm concerned that he's also into young children as well as men, looking for input for my girlies, love a toaster, who asked questions.
Now, we had told her that unless you have children, like, you need to just make peace.
I think we said run like the win.
Yes.
I think that was the advice.
Unfortunately, she has written us back saying, yes, I have children.
Two little girls.
Two and four.
He is actually saying that he's not gay.
Only bored.
Yeah, right.
And he's saying how younger you was actually.
question to obtain their age to make sure that they were old enough to chat with. Also,
you're right. Obviously, he's a liar at baseline. It's been a year-long custody battle because I live in a
state that loves joint custody. We go to court in two weeks. I wish I had enough evidence to send him to
federal prison for the pedophilia, but unfortunately, I don't have proof. Hopefully, the DTQ can send positive
vibes and prayers to me and my girlies, and he gets what he deserves. Thanks for reading my submission.
It buoyed me and made me cackle on a dark day. Oh, gosh, I'm so sorry. Like, this is darker than I
thought it was going to be. I just feel like whatever the court decides, like, this is not our
business. Like, you should take the kids and move out of stay. Like, then she's like, obstruction
yeah, kidnapping. That's so bucked that you can have like this creepy, like, pedophilic question,
you know, even remotely a question. And it's like joint custody when you have a mother who wants
full custody and like his sound of mind. I actually feel like just like talking to like sexually to people
on Reddit is very time consuming. And he actually might not end up using.
all of his custody.
Yeah.
Because it will get in the way.
They want joint custody.
They want to fight for it and they want to punish you, but they don't actually
want kids half the time.
Men, men always want joint custody just to hurt the mom.
Yeah.
And then when it comes time, it's like, oh, I have to do bed, bath bottle.
Never mind.
I'll pick him up next week.
So I have faith that, like, he's just doing this to hurt you.
Great.
Let him.
But like...
The kids will be with you.
Yeah.
Just like have...
Give him a lot of red 40 before they get picked up.
Like, give them a lot of red 40.
Give them a lot of sugar.
Like, kind of make them, hand them over to him.
at like five o'clock, like the worst hours of the day.
He'll get tired in a couple of weeks.
Yeah.
I'm really sorry.
Like, that's awful.
That really mean me sick.
Yeah, but we love you.
Yeah, we do.
And we will pray for you.
And just like that a great lawyer who can drill home the fact that he is likely a sexual
predator.
Yeah.
Screenshots, screenshots, receipts, proof, timeline.
Even if you don't think it'll work, like there's now a record of it in court that
if anything were to happen, like, you could say, I told you so and that'll help your case.
So definitely, even though you don't think it's going to, like, move the needle,
include it regardless.
Yeah.
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