The Toast - SATs & Pop Culture Conspiracies : Thursday, January 23rd, 2025

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday, Thursday. The last Thursday I'll spend in these four walls. We're not strong enough. Oh, speaking of Cyrus, we have a Cyrus family story today. Of course we have a Cyrus family story. We are so invested in the family Cyrus for so many reasons.

Like it's our childhood, it's also entertainment, but it's not something that I've like reached at all fatigue on in terms of development. It is a Thursday, which is also like a my house joke. You know, I get my wires crossed in terms of there are things like inside jokes. And I feel like for everyone, when you have kids, you start talking like them

and like you guys make up words and stuff. And then I also do the show where I start talking like them you guys make up words and stuff. And then I also do this show where I start talking like them and we make up words and stuff. And there's crossovers sometimes. Yeah, people- Just FYI, Thursday is not Thursday. It's Thursday and Friday is Friday. I had such a crazy dream about one of your kids.

They were wearing a toupee. It was good, it was good. They were wearing a toupee. Charlie had this like deep black comb over, like to pay. And he was so excited to see me. And I was like, you look weird. He was giving Steven. Yeah, honestly, I don't even know where I got

like this look from. He also had like a new face. I was like, oh, hey, you look great. Hey, Steve. Hey, how y'all doing? He was like flying down the stairs, like so happy to see Coach, which they never are. So I was-

Did we tell the Steven story? We didn't. Jackie brought the wrong kid home from the park. No, what happened was when Claudia was here, one afternoon, like Charlie fell asleep for his nap first. He was napping for a while. And then Harry and I fell asleep. So Charlie woke up while we were asleep

and Zach and Ben took Charlie with them. They actually were on a mission to find caviar. They went to the mall, they went to Costco, they went everywhere looking for caviar. They were out so late with Charlie. And when he came home, he just looked like a different child. He smelled like the mall, he just smelled different. So he was Steven.

Yeah, because you know those two picked up the wrong kid, for sure, like at Costco. 100%. We kept calling him Steven and he was answering to Steven. And we were like, who's that? It was really, he was giving stranger. No, and now you know how sometimes kids wake up

from a long nap and they look like they've grown a little bit, they look a little different. I feel like that just happens with kids. So every time he's doing something a little bit different, we call him Steven. Like that, I feel like that just happens with kids. So every time he's like doing something a little bit different, we call him Steven. Like he woke up from a nap the other day and he was such a Steven. That's so Steven.

Everybody has like an alternate personality, right? Like 30. 1,000%. Steven. Jackson. Hey Steven, I know looks can be deceiving, but I know I saw a light in you. So glad we'll be talking about the Cyrus family debacle

on today's show. Also getting a haircut today. And I feel like every time I get a haircut, I'm like, will she, won't she? And I just want to be honest with you guys. Spoiler alert, she won't. I'm getting a trim. Like I'm getting a trim.

I just want like my layers cut, but like I like having long hair, especially now that like I'm not in control of my weight. If I can be in control of something, it's the length of my hair. And so that's where I'm at. We know. Yeah.

I just feel like every time they're like, oh, maybe she's going to get bangs. Like not today. We've been known. Not today. I'm glad that you've done another assessment and realized that you are who you are. I'm glad you came to that conclusion.

I am who I am. I am who I am. Did you have that on your SAT also? Did you take that ACT? Are you a freak like that? What do you think? I'm 11. That's so nice.

You think I'm young enough? Like when I was in high school, the ACT was like this new test. It existed and like people took it for sure, but it was so crazy to take. Like it was so off. Okay, so like you have no future. Yeah, like it was so off the beaten path.

Like it was so generic. What made someone someone who took the ACTs? I actually think- It was how you learned. Like it was like, you could do like a test for your brain, like how you process information, like what kind of test taker you are, you're either more fit for the SAT or the ACT.

And I know that they were like given equal value at colleges, like they were considered. But I also think that the SAT has the writing portion. ACT doesn't have writing and instead it has like science or something. So it has like one. Yeah, something like that. The difference in the ACT,

thank you for reminding me now, is that the ACT is actually a much easier test. You are given so little time. And with the SAT, if you have like a learning disability, you can get extra time. It was actually very common. You couldn't. That's why if you get extra time on the ACT,

like congratulations, you're going to Harvard. Okay, so there was- 10 to 100% score. There was one girl in my class who had ACT extra time. And like seriously, it was a golden ticket because the ACT itself, the test was easier than, but it was all about time management. It was all about getting your answers in.

And like you would be really penalized for not finishing certain sections. And this girl, like when everybody found out that she got extra time on the ACTs, like it was so crazy. So they- I feel like I even know who it is. Do you? It's someone that like,

does it just something with a letter? Yeah, it's a girlie. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I know. Cause you like, that's how big of a deal it was. You guys literally made like the school newspaper. It was so crazy. And so I, I think now like there's, it's like 50 50 split.

Like kids just decide which ones to take. But back in my day, it was new. I actually think more people take the ACTs these days. I think the SAT has been like canceled. Good. Like us taking the SATs is really giving away our age. Oh my God. So true. I took the ACTs.

Literally one of the worst experiences of my life was that stupid fucking test. And not even the test itself, the tutoring, like the studying up until those big books. Going downtown every week to take a practice test. Waking up so early to do that. And like those SAT study groups, like it was just, it was horrible.

It was, but do you remember, I think it was on the practice tests. Like when you had to sign your name, it said, I am who I am. Oh, oh, that's how we got here. On my practice test. I don't think it was on the real thing. Cause like that's preposterous.

I don't think so either. I don't think so. That's preposterous. I also would love to, you know what? Just really quickly. Hmm. Do you ask T questions? Like was the test that hard or were we like dumb? I just want to say, I saw on X, to, you know what, just really quickly. Do SAT questions?

Like was the test that hard or were we like done? I just want to say, I saw on X like an LSAT question that was like, there are 10 really hard questions on the LSATs and here's one of them. And if you can get this, like you probably would like farewell on the LSAT. Okay, I've seen those before too. Okay, so I read it through, I chose my answer.

And then in the comments, they like didn't, I never knew what the answer was. But I think I read it through, I chose my answer. And then in the comments, they like didn't, I never knew what the answer was. But I think I got it right. Okay, here's a sample SAT question, ready? 179. It's multiple choice, fill in the blank, ready? Okay. Oh, and also wait, I don't know where the answer is.

Okay, yeah, that's important. Okay, whatever. Beginning in the 1950s, Navajo Nation legislator, Annie Dodge-Manuka, continuously worked to promote public health. This blank effort involved traveling throughout the vast Navajo homeland and writing a medical dictionary for speakers

of Diné-Bazade, the Navajo language. Which word would you put in? Okay. This impartial effort, this offhand effort, this persistent effort, or this mandatory effort? This persistent effort. Right, because she traveled and then she wrote. Like are we geniuses or?

Was that an easy question? Yeah, or we're just like old and we should know these things and maybe when we were juniors, we didn't. Yeah, I would just genuinely love to know the answer. I would love to like see what I would get on the SATs now. What'd you get on the SAT? I don't really like want to talk about it. Oh really?

Yeah, because let me tell you just, okay, I'll tell you, but we grew up like in a family that all took the SATs. And so Olivia was very smart. What did Olivia get? She got in the twenties. But Olivia, I think they were still grading on 1600, not to age her, but I feel like she was at 1600.

And then for my year- By the way, that's fucking ancient. You were graded on the 1600 scale. What did you get? And then I think for my year, I guess it would have been out of 20. 400. 400, yeah, another 800 points for the new section.

Yeah, there were three sections instead of two. So you got, I know you got in the twenties. I did. And I remember when we would convert Olivia's score, like, cause we were all so competitive. Like hers was in the twenties too. So I was like, okay, that's like the bar that I have to reach and you know, my ask on the 18th.

It's like, I think it was 1850 or something. Like it's a, it's an admirable score. It's not bad, but like, it's not good. I got 20, 40. That's like really good. It was really good. And I feel like that doesn't surprise people who like know me now because I've really like worked

on myself and like becoming a smart person. But I need the record to show like I was not a smart person in elementary and high school. Like I just- Me neither. And I know that if I had like ever been taken for testing they would have given me like a bunch of learning disabilities.

Like I just know I was, cause it's not that I'm a dumb person. And I mean, I guess maybe I didn't have a learning disability. Like I actually just didn't give a shit. Like, I so didn't care. Like going to school was like about so many things and none of it was about like learning. And then I think in college, so my SAT scores put me

like in a new, cause I did well, like I had new options open to me and then if I like really beefed up everything else about my application, like that's how I got into Colgate plus applying early and showing that I was really Colgate strong. And don't forget about that essay. And my essay, yeah, no, that's what I mean. Like every other, like my grades were not,

my GPA wasn't the greatest, like everything else we were like firing in all cylinders. Yeah. And I gave a great interview and I had a great essay and I had a good SAT score. But then I think I actually did a little better in college, not all the time, but because I was learning about things

I was interested in, because I was a history major. And I just like, when I cared about the subject, I paid more attention. Here's what Olivia said. Oh, it's probably a rigor mural answer. Yeah, she said, if I remember correctly. Brian was the proctor. If I remember correctly. Brian was the proctor.

If I remember correctly, I got a 2020 out of 2400. And then I think a 1380 perhaps out of 1600. So how do you get both? 1380 sounds memorable. Yeah, 1380. So what would that convert to? I don't know. I need to get my like,

like if you did better than Olivia, like that would have been like a big thing in our house. 1380 over 1600 equals X over 2400. Should I get my calculator? Okay, 2400 times 1380. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is the only piece of math I will ever remember. Whoever taught it to me deserves-

2400 times 1380, okay. Divided by 1600. Olivia got a 2070. Olivia got a 2070. Yeah, so that's why I didn't ring a bell, but you did better than Olivia. Yeah, and I just want to say, if I had done better than Olivia,

that would have been like headline news in our family because Olivia was so, so smart. Like I would know that. I would have remembered that. I would have been talking about it today. I'd go over for dinner and say, remember the time. It would have been like family lore. Yeah, because Olivia was the smartest.

The smartest, like always just an A student. Which is so like, what's that like? I don't know, but I do. And I feel like I bring this up all the time. Like if you're listening to this in high school, which I'm sure you're not, like don't put too much stock in it. I remember going to my five-year high school reunion

and just being really unimpressed with what all the really, there were kids in my grade who went to Harvard. I had a really, really smart graduating class. And I was just really unimpressed with what a lot of them were doing. I was like, I said, what are you guys doing? She's like, I'm in between jobs, trying to work in fashion.

I'm like, so you could have gone anywhere. That's how- You're like me. Yeah, welcome. Even though you were probably a big mocker at that point, not really. But like, I just remember being like, oh my God, none of that mattered. Like, seriously, you all that work for what?

Yeah. Well, it shapes you as a person. So don't give up. Stay in school. Don't do drugs. There you go. My motto is a little bit. My motto is my motto is get out of school and do drugs. Stay away from school, stay in drugs. Yeah, well, there's your life lesson for the day. That's kind of what we provide here

along with just party vibes and stories. It's Thursday, such a relaxed day. I feel like everybody's still talking about your ToastTasters from this week. Like it was- I've gotten so many text messages. I know, I need to comb through the updates to see if I found anything.

But this is like, this girl's in a, it's not something that gets fixed in a week or two. Like she, we will hear from her in a couple of months, I hope. On the news. Literally, man, woman kills husband, nation rejoices. Like man arrested after- Nation rejoices. After him and his buddies.

Yeah. Underground ring of freaks uncovered. Thanks to millennial morning show. Yeah. Love that. Love that. I'm wearing my maternity clothes today. I'm so comfortable. You look amazing. You look comfortable. And also like it's an adorable outfit. I know it's like not ugly.

You know what? And I was thinking like whoever did maternity clothes like needs to do what they did for maternity for plus size. Like there's literally no reason my plus size clothes should be so fucking ugly. And like so grandma, it's like floral patterns. You look like a couch and why are they able to make maternity clothes like so stylish and cool?

Just like with different sizing. It's literally plus like do it. I don't know. Like it's not, it's it can be done. There's proof. Look at maternity. Like shopping plus size is like seriously the most upsetting thing on the planet.

It's just fucking ugly. Oh my God. I just feel like whenever I'm shopping, like there's always, whatever I'm buying, like there's always plus available of the same thing. No, but what do you consider plus? Like an extra large, that's a plus. No, no, no, no.

It's like two models and you can shop like plus. Where are you shopping? Revolve. No, I don't see that ever. Like it's, I'm thinking about like when you go to a store, like it's just, it's sad. Well, I don't go to a store so much. It's like graphic tees and it's like,

it's trends from five years ago. Like the plus size community is now getting turtlenecks within open shoulder, you know? Oh my God, stop. You were the first one with that cold shoulder. I invented that sweater. I'm wearing a turtleneck today because it's very cold. My house is very cold because I just like,

it feels crazy for me to turn on the heat. Don't you feel that way? Did you just say it's very cold? Well, I just need to justify my turtleneck because people are gonna be like, don't tell Levin Florida. People do love to say that to you. They do love to say that to me.

So I just need to just spread my turtle neck. And by the way, they're not wrong for that. That's a crazy fucking sweater to wear when you live in Florida. Wait, so I'm saying it's cold here. There's a cold front, there's been snow in Florida. You've seen that? Snow on the beach?

Mba-oomba, of course I have. And I just was asking you a question, which don't you think it would be crazy of me to turn on the heat in my house? I just was asking you a question, which don't you think it would be crazy if me to turn on the heat in my house? Yeah, I guess it would be kind of nuts. That's, I'm a little cold if that's okay.

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I mean, what can I say, seriously? Our first story, Oscar nominations delayed, but here. So here are the Oscar nominees and we have our official Oscars correspondent. And I have to be honest with you. Like if you really want to be taken seriously in this space which you're doing the work and you should be you're going to have to watch Amelia Pres

because it's leading the pack with 13 nominations. Just letting you know. I won't. I thought you were going to say you're going to have to see the Bob Dylan movie. And like that's the truth. That's sort of like washing over me. Like I understand. I probably should see it.

Yeah, and I don't think you would hate it. No, next up on my list is the Brutalist. Okay. Cause I spoke to like my, you know, my friend in Hollywood, me and Ben were talking to Josh last night. And he was like, you guys have to see it. Well, he knows we're on this journey. He said, we have to see Brutalist.

Like it's long, but amazing. And you have to see Amelia Perez. I don't need to see it. I've seen it. Penis to vagina, vagina to penis. I've seen it. I've seen enough. I've seen enough.

It is so crazy. I can't believe that it got nominated for an Oscar and it got nominated for the most Oscars. You guys, if you haven't seen clips from this movie, like you absolutely need to. I want to talk about sex change operation. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. It's a musical about this like evil cartel man

who wants to undergo gender reassignment surgery. Unclear if he's like a genuine in that endeavor or if he's looking to go into hiding because he like he's responsible for something like the most vicious kidnappings in Mexican history. The vibe I get is that it's genuine and that's what makes it like- That's what's so crazy about it.

Yeah, empowering. Holding space for two truths. You can seriously struggle with your gender identity while also kidnapping people. That's crazy. Was that up for debate? I guess it was more so that it wasn't up for debate and nobody ever thought about it.

Oh. I would just assume if you're busy orchestrating like evil acts of. You're like happy with who you are. No, you're just busy. You're like sure of yourself. You're busy. You're sure of yourself. And all I just want to say is like,

I'm listening to the Toastada community on this one. Like they do not fuck with this movie. So they don't. So therefore like who am I to betray my community? The thing is like nobody really fucks with this movie, which is why the amount of nominations that it's getting is really so crazy. It's like offensive to a lot of people.

Many cultures. It also does not seem good. It seems like a joke. Yeah, cause sometimes, you know, a movie is offensive, but it's like, but it's also a good movie. Hard truths. Yeah, and it's like something we needed to talk about, but I don't think that's what's happening here.

And I thought for sure that like the Amelia Perez was going to like make its rounds in all the award ceremonies, but Oscars, which is really like the upper echelon, the most premiere was going to cut them out of the conversation. That's what I thought was going to happen. No, not at all.

They are leading 13 nominations. So here are the nominees for best picture. Anora. No. The Brutalist. Remains to be seen. A complete unknown. I have to, those are the two I need to say. Conclave.

Honestly, the more I think about it. Could you see that being the best picture? Well, you know, me and Ben were talking to Josh last night and he was like giving us his thoughts on it cause he's gone through, like he loved it so much. And like, I understood like, everybody's interpreting it differently. And that's what it, it's a good movie. Yeah, honestly, it was really good.

Dune part two. You're kidding me. That's best picture. Yeah, but this category is bigger than the Globes. Like we're only halfway through. Amelia Perez, I'm still here. Nickel boys, The Substance, Wicked. Honestly, I like The Substance and Wicked,

but I don't know, I don't know. I need to see more. Okay, next best actress, Cyndi Arrivo, Wicked, Carla Sofia Gascon, Amelia Perez, Mickey Madison, Anora. No. Demi Moore, The Substance, Fernando Torres, I'm still here. Based on what I've seen, The Substance,

like seriously, she was incredible. I want Demi to get it, and hopefully like Cynthia Revo could win for next Wicked, and it's like nice knowing that she'll have another shot for part two of Wicked. Also, like I saw both movies, and I thought, I think Cynthia was incredible. But I think Demi like did more.

It was such a, like this is Cynthia's bread and butter, you know, like musical. Like Demi was so out of her box and she was really, it was so, it was big, I think to me. Best actor, Adrian Brody, The Brutalist, Timothee Chalamet, A Complete Unknown, Coleman Domingo, Sing Sing, Ralph Fiennes, Conclay. Okay, wait, we have to talk about Ralph Fiennes.

His name? His name is Ray Fine or something. Like I'm saying it completely wrong. He should just be glad I didn't call him Ralph Fiennes. By the way, his name is Ralph Fiennes. Like I don't know what everyone's talking about. When you say it, it sounds familiar. Like yeah, Ralph Fiennes. Oh my God, for sure.

Everybody knows Ralph Fiennes. Like America's sweetheart, Ralph Fiennes. Sebastian Stan, The Apprentice. You'll have to do some work there. Cause I feel like it's going to be Adrian Brody. Yeah. So you're going to see the brutalist. Yeah. I feel like he's always a safe bet.

You know. I really need to see the brutalist and a complete unknown, but looks like Kylie will be at the Oscars. Ay. That's huge. Next, best supporting actress, Monica Barbaro, A Complete Unknown, oh, that's the girl who is sitting with Elle and Kylie.

Oh, she's very pretty. Who people say looks like a mixture of Elle and Kylie. Right. That's our girl. Ariana Grande, Wicked, Felicity Jones, The Brutalist, Isabella Rossellini, Conclave, Zoe Saldana, Amelia Perez. Let me say something about Isabella Rossellini.

She was in the movie for five seconds. The fact that like, Ariana, the fact that I think Ariana could have been a supporting, not supporting, just best actress. The fact that the amount of work put into both projects is so crazy different. And Isabel Rossellini was amazing. She should have win. She was seriously in four scenes.

I just want to say something crazy that I haven't said yet. Even though the only movie I've seen out of all of these is Wicked, Just Let It Be Known. I didn't say it should win best picture. And I didn't say that Cynthia should win. I think Ariana should win. I've said it. I completely agree.

Especially because it's best supporting. So like the bar is already a little lower and she is a lead. So she did so much and she was so amazing. I agree. Especially because it's best supporting. So like the bar is already a little lower and she is a lead. So she did so much and she was so amazing. Not that Cynthia wasn't, but like, I don't know. I could not take my eyes off of Ari. Like, and I think this, mostly because this category is a little less competitive

than the ones Cynthia's in. I think Ari should win. I said it. If Wicked is gonna win one award, I think it should be Ari. It's Ariana's to lose. And I agree. She really could have been cast as a lead.

She was, my first thought when I got in the car after the movie was like, she stole the show. She made it her own. She paid homage to the original character. She added flair. She should win, which is so crazy because I don't think that like Wicked is really competing in a lot of these categories

because it's very mainstream, very commercial. But like she was brilliant, like truly brilliant. Agreed. And you guys know I'm hard on my girl. Like- I don't expect her to win, but I think she should. Yeah. Best supporting actor.

You're a- Who cares? Yeah, I don't, no. Anyone from Conclave? Anyone from Conclave, no. Or The Substance? No. Okay, I don't care.

Best director, Anora, Brutalist, Complete Unknown, Amelia Perez, The Substance, just noteworthy that Jon M. Chu did not get nominated for Best Director. He didn't get nominated in any other award show either. So I don't know anything about directing, but he obviously isn't good. Because I don't know if everybody's snubbing him or like, and it's crazy.

Cause how can you not direct a movie well, but the movie ends up amazing. Yeah. I mean, Justin Balzoni. It was a project that was too, Justin Balzoni was snubbed. Thousand percent. It was a project that was too stacked to fail, honestly.

So I don't know if like a director made or broke, but I thought he did a good job. I thought so too. I thought it looked nice. But like, let me also say like, I don't know what constitutes a good and a bad director. I would agree with that. So that's why I'm not stepping in like I did for Ari.

Yeah. Then the only other category I'm usually interested is best original songs because they- And did you see their removing performances? They announced that yesterday too. Well, I'm not mad because like aside from Elton John, I don't need to see any of these. Who are they? Because Miley wasn't nominated like she usually was.

El Mal, Amelia Pres, The Journey, The Six, Triple Eight, Like A Bird, Sing Sing, Me Camino, Amelia Pres, Never Too Late, Elton John. I guess like- So two songs from Amelia Pres. Do you think it's the one? Sex change operation? It better be. To vagina vagina to penis. I love that song. We made it catchier than it is. I know what I'm singing a familiar tune. What? Yeah. Is it like Ring Around the Rosie or something?

It's a children's song. Yeah, is it like, Ring Around the Rosie or something? Something. Ring around the Rosie, a pocket full. I am, yeah, okay. Ashes. By the way, that song is dark. A lot of them are dark.

Yeah, something about like a cradle in a tree, or is that Ring Around the Rosie? That's not Ring Around the Rosie. When the cradle falls out of the tree. Rockabye Baby. Yeah. However, it's not actually, it's actually like a different. When the wind blows, the cradle will fall.

When the bow breaks, the cradle will fall. And that is how it will come baby, cradle and all. But it's like meant to be something sweet. Like maybe you used to swing on a tree and then when they come out, it means they're too big. It like broke and now they're a big kid, something like that. I guess it's just all about your perspective. I read a reinterpretation recently.

Right, right. And I have something to say about the Oscars. Okay. Because Bowen Yang and Rachel Sonate were announced as the people who were gonna announce the nominees, and there was a lot of hoopla for it. And I have to speak a truth, and it's embarrassing,

but I have to just be honest with myself. Okay. I don't know who Rachel Sinatra is. And she's everywhere. How do you not know who that is? How do you know who that is? No, you don't. Yeah, okay.

Everybody knows Rachel Sinatra and Ralph Fiennes. Everybody knows Rachel Sinatra. Like seriously, who is it? Like, you know who I thought who she was for a while? Cause you love that show, My Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. Oh yeah, Rachel. Yeah, she looks like that girl. That's funny, Rachel Sinatra.

She's an actress and comedian. Oh, she was in Bodies, Bodies, Bodies and Bottoms. Okay, she was in like two A24 movies. That's why like Gen Z loves her. I don't think we're expected to know this person. But like announcing the Oscars? Yeah, is that like a huge Shiva baby? Ooh, I'm scared.

I would love, oh wait. Oh, here. Do you want to watch Shiva baby? It's while out of Jewish funeral service with her parents, a college student has an awkward encounter with her sugar daddy and her ex-girlfriend. I have to tell you something about this movie. Hold on, let me just.

Classic Shiva stuff. I, just hold on, before I say it, I wanna, oh, maybe I'm wrong. Never mind. So, no, I'll just say, I didn't know who this was, but. I know, and it's like, I feel like I'm expected to. Oh, I didn't have expectations set on myself. Okay, well, I just wanted to speak my truth.

Like I claim to be hip, I claim to be young, I claim to be Gen Z, like I took the ACTs and I don't know who Rachel Sonate is. But if you took the ACTs, you know who Rachel Sonate is, I'm telling you. She was a question on the test. Diana Agron is in Shiva, baby. Maybe I would watch that

if you wanna get to know Rachel Sonate. Give Diana Agron more work in the year 2025. Like Hollywood has failed Diana Agron, even though I think she like purposely. Yeah, I feel like that too. Doesn't work. I think after Glee, like she had had enough and she does really well.

Like. No, I feel like she works. Like she, her IMDb is definitely stacked, but I think she's like. She does like small art projects. She's choosy. She does what she wants. And I think she makes most of her money being like a socialite fashion girl. She was like a face of Chanel. And I think she's like- She does like small art projects. She's choosy, she does what she wants. And I think she makes most of her money

being like a socialite fashion girl. She was like a face of Chanel and I think she like married really well. I think she's fine. And I don't think she wants to work. Like I don't think she wants to be a big star. I think she like saw the dark side of Hollywood and was like, listen, I like the money,

but the rest of this like is not gonna be for me. But she's seriously like a classic talent. I agree. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Billy Ray ready for our next story? I am. Billy Ray Cyrus's family is genuinely worried after his disastrous inauguration performance,

his son Trace says. I would be worried if they weren't. So his son Trace Cyrus put out a statement expressing concern. It's almost like an open letter. Yeah, expressing concern for Billy Ray. And I think that like doing it in the public was just meant to really like shake Billy.

It's like what you do when someone's hit rock bottom, like intervention, you stop caring. Like you just have to get through to them. Yeah, he said, since my earliest memories, all I can remember is being obsessed with you and thinking you were the coolest person ever. I wanted to be just like you. The day you adopted me was the happiest day of my life.

Sadly, the man that I wanted so desperately to be just like, I barely recognize now. It seems this world has beaten you down and it's become obvious to everyone but you. Me and the girls have been genuinely worried about you for years, but you've pushed all of us away. Noah desperately has wanted you to be a part of her life

and you haven't even been there for her. That's your baby girl. She deserves better. Somehow just like me, she still idolizes you though. We are all hanging on to memories of the man we once knew and hoping for the day he returns. So, I mean, this is probably the biggest insight and like window into what's been going on

with the family Cyrus. Cause we've known about this divide. We've known that like the kids took Tish's side in the divorce, but like why? And it really just seems like this behavior we saw on stage the other night, like is sort of how he's been for the last couple of years. And it's like impossible to help someone who won't help themselves.

Yeah. This is so sad. And honestly, like throwback to Terri Cyrus. Metro street booming. Yeah. When she doesn't like this, will you do it like that? That was like one of the greatest times in pop culture. Like Miley was coming up and then they were like,

she has a brother, he's in this band. What was that band called? Metro Boom? It was called Metro, hold on, Station. Thank you. I went to a concert, wait, when I was in high school, they were the opener for like someone big. Who did they open for?

I feel like Katy Perry or something. It was at Madison Square Garden. Probably Katy Perry. Oh my God, they're giving me like tours of old train stations. Of course they are. Of course they are. That band name does not have good SEO. Yeah. Okay. Like I'm never going to find what I'm looking for. They should have been street booming. I'm never going to find what I'm looking for.

And yeah, Trace is the bassist. Well I hope you find it. What you're looking for. I hope it's everything you dreamed your life would be. And so much more. Yeah, Shake It was like really their only song. Cause the rest I'm not familiar with. Well, One Hit Wonders, we could say that.

Oh my God, they joined Boys Like Girls on their tour, but I never saw Boys Like Girls. Claudia, I was, I know I can't say, I was gonna say, was it Boys Like Girls? But I was gonna say that, but I know like, no one would believe me. I never saw Boys Like Girls on tour, but like if, I don't know if you guys would believe me

when I told you, like nobody in America was a bigger fan of Boys Like Girls than me. That album, it's like black, and then it's like a bunch of colors in the middle. I, it's Drunk in Love, that was, no, Love Drunk. I used to have a love drunk, but now I'm hung up. Oh my God, like seriously raised me. Is that Check Yes Juliet?

No, Check Yes Juliet is not, is a different band. That's Ben's favorite song. And it's different than Ann Juliet? It is, it's We the Kings, Check Yes Juliet is a different band. That's Ben's favorite song. And it's different than Ann Juliet? It is. It's We the Kings, Check Yes Juliet. Oh, We the Kings. They are elite. You know, I actually recently found out something interesting. I just want to say, like, I know you won't believe me,

but I was going to guess that they... That Metro Street opened for voice actors. Do you remember the band Element Elementy? Of course. And they had- Was it Night Out? No, what's like their big song? It's, hold on, I'll find it.

No, actually, no, I don't remember Element. Juliet, it's called Juliet. I think you're fine. Oh, whoa, whoa, okay. We're in a different era now. Yeah, of course, but you know what I just found out about this band? Do you know who was a core member of the band left

after he was cast on Glee? Matthew Morrison. The plot thickens. I just want you to know, I wanna be your Romeo. There was a time where like, if you put, what do you think Shakespeare thought of that? Like of all the songs being made,

Check Yes Juliet, Juliet by Ellen. Like what do you think he made of popular culture taking his timeless love story, kind of a story of star-crossed lovers, if you will, and making it mainstream? I think he would have loved that. And he would have like totally, he would have been like, I called it.

Like I think Shakespeare saw himself as being someone that would inspire generations of music and prose. Rest in peace, William Shakespeare. You would have loved element is Juliet. You would have loved We the Kings. You really would have. He would have been sat front row. Like when Ben is like drinking, which he never does.

But like if you get Ben drunk and give him the ox, the first song he will play is check. Yes, Juliet. The second is Timber by Kesha and Pitbull. All I have to say is In Vino Veritas. 100%. In Wine There Is Truth. Those are factually good songs.

It's so true. And then he'll go like Red Hot Chili Peppers and that's where he loses me, but he has this one Red Hot Chili Pepper song that he likes, which is fine. Like everybody's allowed to like, like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but the version that he likes-

Are they allowed? No. I feel like they're not allowed. the version that he likes- Are they allowed? No. I feel like they're not allowed. The version that he likes is a SoundCloud remix. So like you have to wait for him to find it on SoundCloud. Genuinely painful. Like- You should bookmark it in his phone.

That would be like a nice- By the time he gets there, like I'm so done with him. Like I'm not helping. Right, right. Like I know when we reach Red Hot Chili Peppers, like in an Uber or something, I'm like- The night's over. Ben has to go home.

Yeah. Ben's gonna throw up. Are you ready for our next story, number three? Yeah. So this is a story that's been like swirling for a while. It seemed a little, it seemed a little unbelievable, but now the truth about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's divorce book has been revealed. So a Vanity Fair cover story published last week

alleged that Meghan's team had quietly held talks with an unnamed publishing house to gauge interest in the idea for the book. However- So this Vanity Fair article, which we didn't talk about, we must've been off. No, because, no, I saw it a bunch of times, but I was just like, there's no way, like they're not-

But it was like overwhelmingly negative. And I feel like it was like marked like a real shift in like the media's portrayal of those two. It was like, it was kind of like a hit piece. And I think the craziest part, yes, divorce book was the podcast, Harry, I almost said Harry Styles, Prince Harry was shopping around about psychopaths.

Oh, I didn't even see that. Okay, so you share yours and I'll find the psychopath thing. It was so funny. Well, so that article has been like circulating for a while that she was shopping around this divorce book, which I just found to be like highly unbelievable. And now a source was worked closely with the couple till page six that Meghan and Harry know

that they are tied together. Their value isn't being a couple. Even if they wanted to split, they couldn't. And honestly, they are obsessed with each other. They are just too narcissists, this person said. However, it does appear that the, they just put feelers out to see what, if a divorce book would be interesting to people.

But- But about her divorce or about divorce in general? No, about divorce from him. It's like, we get, that's why I don't believe it. It's like, we would get divorced if people will buy this book. What about your actual life? And then this article also says they do, they are obsessed with each other.

So it's like, you would just like do it for a bit for content. They are running out of things to talk about. They've really like sold every single part of their personal lives and their history. But that feels really crazy to me. Okay. So a former staffer asserted that quote, they had this idea to do a podcast

because they knew that a lot of celebrities did Them and it becomes clear that neither couple member actually had any strong ideas of what to do with the audio format Which is how you get to the sociopath show? Which supposedly grew out of how are you noticing that despite suffering some of the world's most famous childhood trauma? He did not grow up to be a sociopath. So why did guys like Vladimir Putin? We really just this is someone's recap of it. We genuinely wish this article had gone forward. So basically his idea was to interview like the world's most powerful men

and how they're all like kind of sociopaths like Mark Zuckerberg types, like how they're also crazy from the purview of like, I grew up, I have childhood trauma, but I'm not a sociopath. Why are you? And of course the idea was squash. Who the fuck would sit down for that interview? Like, you're gonna call me crazy, bitch?

You're crazy. It was one of the craziest ideas for a podcast ever. That's so crazy. I thought it would be like him going in jails and interviewing actual sociopaths. No, that would be interesting. But like world leaders and influencers like Mark Zuckerberg, it's like, hey, sociopaths, how'd you get here?

Yeah. No one would ever, that would never happen. Yeah, I like seriously, and under the guise of like powerful men become sociopaths, but it didn't happen to Yeah. I like seriously. And under the guise of like powerful men become sociopaths, but it didn't happen to me. So let's put the spotlight on you, Vladimir Putin. And also like, and that Vladimir Putin is doing Prince Harry's podcast. Honestly, I would watch it in two seconds. Oh my God. That was the craziest part of the Vanity Fair article, honestly. So no, this was crazy to me that like, they would maybe get divorced for a book deal.

I genuinely like don't, because that's so crazy to me that two people would do that, especially like two people who seem to be very much in love and they are bound to one another. Like I have a hard time believing it, but the publishing insider said they're worth more together. It doesn't benefit them to be apart. They have all their deals together.

I think the random house deal is much like the Netflix deal. Netflix just said yes to everything because they wanted to get the docu-series Harry and Meghan. So they said, okay, we'll take the polo show and see what happens with Meghan's lifestyle show. Oh, that actually kind of makes sense for Netflix. But also, I don't know if I necessarily agree that they're more valuable together.

I think at one point, yes, but now like if they actually got divorced and gave the level of insight they did in the documentary and in the books, like how they did about the royal family, but about each other, like that's interesting though. Oh, it would be interesting, but it's not lasting. Like what do you do after that? They need to find something lasting,

not just like a moment in time. And they've really excavated every part of their own and shared history. So they do need to think about like what's next. And they've really excavated every part of their own and shared history. So they do need to think about like, what's next. And I do think that they're stronger together because you can justify all of the things that they did that you might've not liked because they were in love and protecting one another.

If it turns out that they couldn't even make it, not even five years on the outside, like what was this all for? Yeah. So interesting. But it also was reminding me of these rumors that are swirling. Have you seen the rumors that the Obamas are splitting up? Okay, well I saw that and at first it was like,

well, because she didn't go to Jimmy Carter's funeral and then she didn't go to the inauguration. So like- I paid in no mind. Me neither because actually, if you've ever listened to Michelle Obama, she has spoken like very straightforwardly about how she like hated being the first lady. She hates like the public life

of being like a political first lady. So yeah, the two events, like why should, I'm done. Like leave me out of this. I disagree with that. I think that even if you, whether you like it or not, like that is your job in like in this country. Like that you go to those things. I just assumed she had a good reason for not going

whether it was like something going on with her. I assumed she just had reason, not cause she didn't feel like going. I feel like it was like something going on with her. I assume she just had reason, not cause she didn't feel like going. I feel like it was like, this is my husband's problem. Like my husband was the president and I'm over it by, and I was like, okay, honestly. You don't think Hillary Clinton feels that way? No, actually, like Hillary Clinton-

You think that's stranger? No, but Hillary's like actively involved in politics. Like that's her world. You know? She had a position. Like- And people also were probably saying like she didn't go to the inauguration

cause she didn't want to support Trump. But that doesn't explain why she didn't go to Jimmy Carter's funeral. I think- You know, she has been noticeably absent from public life. So it led people to wonder. Right. I don't think it's as like simple as like she's over it.

Cause I just, that's when you're like a former first lady like there are just things that you do. And I think, and she's done them in the past. So I don't think it's sad. I just thought maybe there was like something going on in her life that was, or something with the kids where she just could not go. And that was enough for me, but it's shining a light

on like these marital issues that people are saying that they are having and that they are splitting up. And then tier two of the, tier two of the series. Well, that's where things get interesting. Cause I didn't think that they were splitting up. Like her not going to two events. I did not either. Cause if you actually were splitting up

and you would want to like avoid public, you would just go. Like, so I didn't think that they were splitting up until my sister Olivia, who truly like operates in the strangest places on the internet. Like she's always like telling me crazy stories about like influencers. Like, I don't know where she gets this stuff. She texts us and she goes,

has anybody heard the rumor that Obama and Jennifer Aniston are having an affair? And I was like, actually, no. And I hear everything. No, I had not heard anything close to that. But then in the days since she said that, I've seen a lot of people talking about it and like people that I respect

and that don't just like say like baseless things. And now this morning, Jennifer Aniston has turned off her comments. Right, which by the way, because the conspiracy theory has gotten so big, I'm sure regardless of if there's truth behind it, she would turn off her comments. But like turning them off,

like does feel like an admission of guilt. Cause if there was this like really wackadoodle story about her that was so baseless, like what would you really need to hide from? I don't know. And I just want to say, I could see this too. Like getting along. Is that crazy?

You see it? Yeah, I see it. Like that's not so crazy. They're age appropriate. Like, I don't know. They kind of like very weirdly make sense. No, I agree. At first it sounded-

I can't get on this train unless somebody gives me like a real piece of proof. Like I need something because if I get on, like I'll never get on this train unless somebody gives me like a real piece of proof. Like I need something because if I get on like I'll never get off, I'll think that they're together for the rest of my life. I saw Meghan McCain talking about it and like she is legit. So it's reached the political sphere. Like and she, I feel like she wouldn't just like spew nonsense if she didn't have like people who really think it's true.

Turning off her comments, like really does add a layer of validity to what was like this sort of crazy outlandish Olivia Oshrey rumor. Like- Not validity, but it just means that like, seriously, it's so big that- It's gotten to her.

Yeah, it's not like this just random thing that a couple of us heard. No, and given, you know, Michelle not showing up. I think also House and Habit was talking about it. Okay, but like that to me, that, that is still very much like internet. Right. Right. Right. That doesn't give it any credibility to me, but yes,

now the Instagram comments being turned off. That's something. Or I know maybe she's getting prepared for an announcement. But also like if I'm the shell of her new relationship, if I'm Michelle, obviously like any her new relationship. If I'm Michelle. Obviously like anyone's husband having an affair is like egregious. But I'm fucking mad because like I said, like she very vocally like hated that life.

She did it for him. It was like his big dream. And so like she gave him eight years of her life for this man just for him to go and cheat on her with Jennifer Aniston. Like it's almost too egregious to even be true. Well, I feel like the rumors that I'm seeing it's that not only is they are splitting up

and he's with Jennifer now. It's that they've been living separate lives for a long time. Like Michelle might have a boyfriend as well. Like I don't think it was necessarily cheating as more so moving on. Who do we see Michelle with? Shamar Moore. Older women love Shamar Moore.

Shamar Moore loves older women. They're literally the same age. They're both like celebrities. Shamar Moore. Older women love Shamar Moore. Shamar Moore loves older women. They're literally the same age. They're both like celebrities. Shamar Moore. Even though I think he's married. But I do feel like if the Obama split, then like Meghan and Harry, like- It's a green light.

Copy them. Yeah, yeah. Just like everything else. Well, no, they're like gonna watch, they're sort of like they're guinea pigs. Like, let's see if it works out. Do they get bigger book deals? Do they get bigger Netflix?

And if they do, maybe. But someone has to tell them that they are not them. No, they are not. Somebody lied to them. Well, I think that I could have seen that becoming their life when they left. That's what I thought they were gonna become very much like the Obamas.

And they didn't because they really, I think they needed the money. So they did a lot of things that were like a little like tacky that like, you know, the Obamas would never have done, you know? Like- They weren't even at the birthday party. Like for me, that was when I was like-

Right, they weren't invited. Right. They're not anywhere where the people are. So I do think they see themselves as the same tier as the Obamas. And I have to say that they're not. Yeah, agreed. But anyways, just that was one I didn't see coming

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their relationship status and the details of his D his the incident. She said, thank you all for your support and kindness. I am happy that prosecutors decided not to file against James as I never desired criminal charges. We had an argument outside of his home related to him drinking again. However, I was not physically hurt. I was shocked by the headlines and disheartened by how the event was portrayed.

We are no longer together, but I'll always support James and wish him the best with his sobriety and healing. Thank you for understanding." So there's a lot in there. Yeah, so I guess what she's saying, it's like so hard with situations like this, because it could very well be the truth, but also like someone who's suffering from DV like wouldn't say, you know, so you're like,

no, it's fine, you know? Yeah, but they're not together. So if there was a time to speak her truth, I guess that would be it. just misunderstanding. Yeah, but they're not together. So if there was a time to speak her truth, I guess that would be it. Overall, like I'm glad they're not together. Like whether the event was blown out of proportion or it wasn't like James is somebody who needs to work on himself.

And I don't think Allie, sometimes like a relationship can help somebody like that. Like who needs to desperately change. I don't think that this was that type of relationship. So he's somebody who needs to be on his own, I think. I feel like it could have been, but I feel like for James being on his own, like is part of being at rock bottom.

I feel like when he has someone to lean on, like he can just sort of put a bandaid on stuff. So if he's like really at the bottom and needs to get sober and like take a lot of time to like be sober, it's better if he has to, it's a journey you can only go alone. You can't do it for someone else. You can't do it because someone else is making you. So I think he has to do it on his own,

but I'm glad to know that like the incident that was pretty vague in the details when we reported on it. So it was hard to know the severity of it. Like, I'm glad that she was fine. Like he did not physically hurt her and that they're no longer together. I hope that he leans on Lala.

Like in this phase, she's really somebody who has so, and maybe, you know, I don't think I'm wrong, but like, you know, it could just appear that way. Like who seems to have a really good grip on sober life and also like understands how vital it is for her to like continue living this great life. Work-wise, mom-wise, like sobriety is such a key part of that. And I'm sure she struggles with it.

Like anybody else does, but I think that he, she could be a great resource for him. Yeah. And I think she always has been and she's there as much as he will. You can only help someone as much as they want. Yeah. Yeah. So it's nice to know that like he has friends that he could go to, but again, like it's something that he has to do in the early days, like by himself.

No one can do it for him. Do you think that Allie would be a good castmate for the new Vanderpump rules? Cause she is sort of like this new Jen. We know her. Maybe she has like a new single life. Like, did she ever work at Sir? No, she never worked at Sir

cause she still was doing birth charts. I, yeah, I like her as a TV character. She had a good eye on things, a good take on things. Yeah, she did. I liked her interviews and I felt like she was a very rational person. I do enjoy people like that. But I do think Tabula Rasa.

Yeah. Not that she's so- I saw a picture circulating that was unconfirmed, like the new crew. I saw that too. And I didn't know anyone. Me neither. As in- Which might be for the best, yeah.

Yeah, Tabby LaRassa. I agree, like in order, even though like Wheelhouse is in New York, is like so, such a bad example of Tabby LaRassa. Even though they're having like a record low, like terrible season, but the season finale aired two nights ago. And I had seen a lot of hoopla for it before

and I'm like, sure, like you guys just like need people to watch, nobody's watching. But it actually was really crazy. I didn't see what happened. I saw bits of it because I was watching Beverly Hills so they kept like teasing it, but like they have to separate. It's been Brynn versus Uba.

Uh-huh. And Brynn was referencing like a trauma, like a sexual abuse trauma from her childhood. And she said basically that like Uba knew about it and like threw it in her face. And then like Erin and Sai were like, actually she told us offline that she knows Uba didn't know about it.

Like that Uba wasn't ever intentionally trying to hurt her, but like whatever. And it all came out in the final episode and the women were like, Brynn that's like seriously the most fucked up thing. And it all came out in the final episode. And the women were like, Brynn that's like seriously the most fucked up thing. Like that's such an egregious allegation against Uba. And you know it not to be true.

And like, you're just doing it for what? And that makes sense why a couple of months ago when it was announced that Brynn's leaving, she must've known that this was coming. But then Brynn did a big interview in Rolling Stone as like her big final goodbye once the episode aired, she kind of like backtracked on the whole thing. So she's like taking no responsibility. I mean, I watched the first season. I did not watch this season. I will not be sad to see

her go. I didn't think she was a particularly good housewife. I don't think really any of them are. I think there's like, there's potential there with like Uba and Erin, but I don't know where we go from here. Like, yeah, they had a great season finale. I don't think it's going to resurrect the season. Like I don't think people are now going to go back on Peacock and watch the whole thing. Like people like me, like I'm interested. I heard about it on Twitter. Like I think I know enough, like I'm good.

Right. But also just the conflict, even though it sounds like juicy, cause everything was exposed. It sounds inherently like fake and produced because like, I mean, Brynn was just like saying something to get a reaction, like to make something look like something that it wasn't. And I don't like TV, like I said, like an agent of chaos,

like not some, there's no like history between the women. There's no truth there. She's just like trying to make television and you can smell that from a mile away. So I'm glad that she is leaving. Cause also that's, I've not watched the show aside from like clips and in between other episodes of Housewives, but you could just tell she just is someone

who's just trying to stir something up. Yeah, so I don't know what it, like how Real Housewives is in New York, like what that indicates for like a tabula rasa type of show. Yeah. Even though like, Vanim Brum Brules is like one of those younger gen shows on Bravo. Like there's the Housewives, which is like older women.

And that's why them going housewives were bringing in like women in their thirties. Like while it sounds cool, it's kind of inherently like the opposite of what the franchise is known for. Like we like to see like these extravagant older women. It's nobody's putting them on TV. So this is, so them going with like young hot things in New York, like cool.

That's not what you go to housewives for. No, but Vanderpump Rules has more potential because it's young people things in New York, like cool. That's not what you go to Housewives for. No, but the Enterpump rules has more potential because it's young people with nothing to lose, which is what the original cast was. Even with Roni, they know it's very formulaic. These are established women. They're not gonna just like go wild on TV or they will and it's like phony,

but it's just not the same. So I think- It's phony Roni. And I think just because Roni Tabula Rasa didn't work out, like that doesn't mean that the Tabula Rasa- You don't think it's a blanket statement? No, I think it would probably like casting choices and a bunch of, and the show concept itself

versus like the end of the world, I still think there's potential. Yeah, if they could just find some like, like people low down on their luck, looking for just like a job as a waitress, oh, and you're gonna be on TV and they live in like shoebox apartments. Like, sure.

And I feel like LA is full of those people. But also I think the X factor for original Vanderpump rules was the fact that they were true friends with history that you don't just like, if you had someone that's a stranger, you don't care what you say to them or how you treat them. And then it just feels very wishy washy. So they could also, but there are friends out there.

There are friends in Hollywood. Yeah, 100%. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yeah. A little documentary news because Aaron and Nick Carter's sister will tell the family's extreme highs and tragic lows in a new documentary from Paramount+.

Oh yeah, this is like at one point something I would have been interested in and now it's like gone to a place where it's so sad. It's so sad. There's so much- I actually don't wanna know. Tragedy here. No, just everything that we know about the Carters

in the last few years. And really like the last one standing is Nick, who has all of these like sexual assault allegations against him and like things that even Aaron had said before he passed, like it's just tough. So anyway, So Lail Moon Fry is set to direct the Carters, a new two-part documentary that looks at the extreme highs and tragic lows of the Carter family,

including Backstreet Boys member, Nick Carter and pop star Aaron Carter, who died in 2022. This is like so dark. I feel like every time you peel back the curtain on like the Carter family, it's so much worse than you ever imagined, especially given the fact that they were like these, you know, bright eyed, bushy tailed,

young talented boys who America loved and they were both killing it and they had blonde hair. Like it was just, it was so pargy and so innocent. And then to know what was really going on. And I feel like I still don't even know like 70% of it. It's so disturbing. And I understand why that makes a good documentary, but it's actually, it's an American tragedy.

It is. The show will be from the point of view of Angel, who's Aaron's twin sister, and will feature interviews with close family friends, including Melissa Joan Hart and Scout Willis, as well as never before seen home movies from the family. And then just a reminder of just some of the tragedy that the family and then just a reminder of just some of the tragedy that the family has experienced.

Aaron passed away in 2002, but their Nick and Angel sister Leslie died of an apparent overdose in 2012. Wait, 2002? Yeah, that's when he died. Aaron Carter. That's when Aaron Carter died. 2022, sorry.

I missed it too. Okay, wait, who's six? Sorry. Their father died of a heart attack in 2017. And then Aaron died from accidental drowning in 2022. And their other sister, Bobby Jean died of an accidental overdose in 2023. And then Nick has faced a slew of sexual misconduct

allegations, all of which he has denied. And Aaron had said, right, so while Aaron was like struggling in his last time here on earth, like he was going live on social media and like sharing some really kind of crazy things about his childhood that I think at the time, maybe people had written off

because he was so visibly hurting and didn't look like somebody who was just like, you know, telling the truth. And after he passed, and then these allegations about Nick came out and the sister has spoken a little bit about it. It was like, oh, wait, maybe like he wasn't crazy, Aaron. Like maybe he was like deeply hurting

and actually telling us the truth about the craziness of his childhood. Yeah. So let's see what comes out in the documentary. Even though this isn't set to be like an expose, it's a labor of love for her family. She- Is Nick a part of it? I didn't say like interviews from Nick,

but she said by sharing our true story, one shaped by loss, resilience and healing, I hope to honor our journey and transform our past into a message of hope and purpose for others facing similar challenges. So it doesn't seem like it's gonna be. Like expose, but if Nick isn't a part of it, there's so much about it that's like kind of Nick coded.

It doesn't, he might be, but they would have said like, they would have said, so I don't know. Maybe he's still deciding now that it's like picked up by Paramount Plus. Right. And like, I think a streaming network thinks that like any documentary about like this time and these kids, you know, what was that Nickelodeon one called?

Like it's sort of a surefire way to go viral. Yeah. And it kind of is, there's so much entry. It does not seem like this is an expose about Nick or anything like take down- It's just their family story. Yeah. Okay.

I think, so that's coming out soon. Also speaking of blast from the past news, yesterday the detectives discovered who Kristen Davis's boyfriend was who gave her $5,000 and never paid it back. Now there were a couple of names being floated, primarily Mark Ruffalo, whom you know I wanted it to be because he's my nemesis.

And of course he would steal $5,000 from Kristen Davis, but it actually wasn't him. All signs point to James Vanderbeek being the man whom she dated, who then eventually went on to have great success, who now is married with a bunch of kids and lives out in the country, and whom at one point had done interviews about how when he moved to LA, he didn't even have a car.

So a lot of it kind of adds up. He started Dawson's Creek in 1998. So the timing lines up. However, it also makes sense why she didn't name him because he has just shared that he has cancer. So it's like not the time to like drag it. Pile on. So I take back what I've said that she should have.

He needs the $5,000 more than she does. She shouldn't have named him, but now the story is whole. And it doesn't make me like him any less. I very much like him. That's the thing about James Van Der Beek. People really love him. And like, even if she had said it was James Van Der Beek, it wouldn't have been like cancel James.

It would have been like, oh, such a cutie. Yeah, he did what it took to make it to the top. And look, and it paid off. There was a beautiful family. Yeah, yeah. So glad to make it to the top. And look, it paid off. There was a beautiful family. Yeah, yeah. So glad to have an answer on that. Well, that's our show, you guys. It's Thursday's dairy, tomorrow's fry dairy.

And we've got one more show in the studio. Oh wow, it's gonna be a big one. Should we get balloons or stuff? Like, should we do something? Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. You were bigger than the whole sky. You were more than just a short time. You were more than just a short time.

I'll have you know that these four walls came down around us. I'm gonna do a TikTok. Wait, wait Jackie, wait. Oh, I like that. I've got a lot to think about. I'm never gonna meet. What could have been, would have been,

what should have been you. We shouldn't have someone make a mashup. Now that we know all of you are music producers. No, no, I don't like that. I am going to make a TikTok, like a transition where I'm still in this studio and I'm gonna say, these four walls came down around us.

And then cover the camera. And I moved my hand and I'm in the new studio. Must've been something Sen. It's like a sort of like fresh start. Love that far you. So many content ideas. I mean, there's gonna be so many transitions, reels, right? That's what, tomorrow after we wrap the show,

like I have to get to work filming. Yeah, on the transition reels. If any of you want to mash up these two songs, like that would mean so much to me. It would be helpful. It would be helpful, definitely for the transition reels. For sure. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the

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