The Toast - Serious Advocacy: Wednesday, May 22nd, 2024

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! change our name to the toast which is the same amount of syllables as tt less syllables than tmt so i think we have to be the toast well if we have to then we will and we shall and we are today's such an exciting day because the official on sale for our toast residency yeah that's right it's giving celine dion jackie and i are going to be doing live shows all through new york this summer on long island and here in new york city we're doing four shows at the Beacon Theater and four shows at the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center. All the tickets are now on sale. If you head to thetoastpodcast.com slash tour, you will get links for all of them.

I, you know, don't want to, I hate to create, you know, panic or storm and drag, but like they're selling. They're selling. Make haste. Make haste. Thank you for bringing that up. You just reminded me of something. Okay. I got so much backlash yesterday yesterday like an insane amount of backlash for the amount of times I said the word

seriously somebody said I counted for seven minutes and she said seriously 18 times to what do you attribute I have maybe I was feeling very serious I think you're maybe feeling very serious or maybe I was maybe it's my fault maybe I was making fire points to which you could only respond seriously seriously I mean maybe that's my way of like shedding annoying like likes um you know maybe that's my way of just sort of shedding my skin I'll be aware of it I'll try my best but seriously oh but there there are more annoying things than like being the girl who says seriously a lot for sure far sure and I feel as though we always have a word of the moment even if it's just like totally or agreed whatever however we want to yeah emphasize in the sentence and right now

you're feeling serious and I like a serious swirly you're a serious girl like maybe I'm getting it from you. I am not going to knock this. And I have to be honest, I didn't notice it. So it can't be that bad. Like I'm the one who's talking to you. Jackie, I overheard. If it's not bothering me, then everyone should let up on Laturd.

Okay? She does a lot. Someone's coming to my defense. She does a lot for the community. She's very serious about it. Yeah, sorry. Come on. Like seriously, how much are you nitpicking? No, by the way, like, I'm sorry I take my job so seriously.

I'm sorry that I'm committed to delivering, like, the best, most intense episodes every morning. I'll stop. How about that? I'll stop. That's how you know we're perfect. That the critique of our show yesterday is that we said seriously too much. And Jackie, I'm not referring to one comment. Seriously?

I guess I do say a lot. There was like 25. I saw some of them. And I guess in place of seriously, it has usurped the word literally because all the times you're saying seriously right now, you would have been saying literally. And to me, they're both equally dumb and nonsensical.

And so I don't care. Jackie, when I tell you I sprinted to work today to tell you this story that I overheard the most actually insane abusive phone conversation I only heard one side. Who? This woman on the street. Okay okay. And like dead ass I just know the person on the other line was a toaster. I'm like I need to speak to this person okay. Okay maybe they'll be writing into dear toasters which will be tomorrow because we're recapping the underpump rules today. And I don't want to be too descriptive, but like if your mom did a workout class this

morning and then immediately left and started screaming at you and today is your birthday. Seriously, like you have my heart. I overheard seriously. Oh, seriously. You have my heart. I overheard seriously. The most deranged conversation. This woman behind me is like, I'm like, why are you talking so loud?

And then I realized she was yelling, but like in like a normal voice so she goes and what did you do today okay so you woke up and then did what okay so let me tell you how it works you wake up and you call your mother on your birthday I'm the reason you're in this fucking world I was like holy shit I turned around I'm like is is this woman kidding? It was so crazy, so deranged. And she was like with a friend who was like laughing. I'm like, oh, you're both fucking toxic, scary ass moms. She was like, are you going to apologize? And I'm standing there walking Romeo. Thank God for Romeo. I could like stall and like literally follow her. I'm like, oh no, he's walking. Oh my God. It was so crazy. I got such a pit in my stomach for the girl on the other line.

It's literally her birthday. I would say her mom, she had like, you know, she'd had work done. So it was tough to, she had like Botox and like filler. So I would say she was about 50. She had a great body leaving a workout class. Here, I'll say this, a very trendy workout class. Did you do the workout class?

No, no, no. You were just loitering. I was loitering outside the workout facility. And like, I always see people I know coming in and out. Like I know I know this woman's daughter. Like I always see people I know coming in and out of this class. She was so crazy and so mean. And seriously, I got such a pit in my stomach for the girl whose birthday it was.

Like so you wake up on your birthday, your crazy ass mom calls you screaming at you that you didn't call her on your birthday. Yeah. So I would say the daughter's probably a teenager like that was the age I was getting from just the vibes well happy birthday to you if you are a toaster um I hope other than that you're having a great day and that you didn't call your mom because you were so busy doing fabulous things because you're having a great day that's what I hope for you happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday to you what else is to you. Happy birthday to you. What else is going on with you?

Oh, we already promoted our tickets. I was like, wait. Number of things going on with me. One. Number of them. One, finish The Teacher by Freda McFadden. Plot twist? Slay all day as she does.

The twists were twisting. I've never accurately predicted a Freda twist. No, I know. And because I read half two days ago and the rest last night, I had the whole day yesterday to kind of think about what I think is going to happen. And I couldn't. And I don't even like trying to spoil the book. Like, I just want to enjoy the read.

So I finished it late last night. It was really good. Highly recommend. Like, I'm back in the reading swing of things. And that's great. That's great. Highly recommend. Like I'm back in the reading swing of things. And that's great. That's great. That is great. I took two days off of my sourdough and everything kind of fell to pieces.

But yesterday I fed them. I have two jars going of two different ratios. And it is clear which one is better. Is the winner. So now I know what my ratio should be. I shall feed it today. I need to keep feeding it it's definitely not like a ready active starter and so I'm on my I'm back on my journey I have

some answers and I feel good about that and I got like better sourdough starter jars I was using mason jars which are good for a beginner but if you really want to level up you need a wide mouth jar so you can really mix and I got them which are good for a slob yeah kind of like for a peasant sure okay so beginner so you're saying you're not a beginner what would you say you are intermediary no no I'm still a beginner but like beginner is beginner also me calling you a peasant like this is literally free bread no like I'm being a peasant right no like you're making your own bread like the aristocrats would never would never would never do I look bald no okay I'm wearing my hair up and a headband

like that's not bald energy I can't see the headband I was wondering how you got it so pulled okay here's the trick to getting a pulled ponytail wear Wear a fucking headband. I can never get a ponytail like on top of my head without, seriously, 45 bumps. Seriously. Without 45 bumps. Yeah, that wouldn't work for me because that headband is not the same color as my hair because I'm saying like it looks to be the same color as your hair. I didn't even realize my brunette privilege.

Brunette privilege. It's true. Aye. Aye to zay. Well, I hope because I'm getting ready for another day of traversing around this gorgeous town yesterday I was at the park I couldn't be stopped yesterday I did soda method outside I went to the park I took tromeo like I couldn't be stopped like seriously you will not catch me answering an email for the remainder of like summer has begun do not I will

do the toast every day and that's literally it like I'm just I can't be held back to the confines of my nine to five job like I can't yeah well enjoy the weather it's so sick you guys went for a walk today I'm kind of good like starting a walking club with my friends um and a lot of them have babies so I feel like bringing a baby to the park is like that's perfect and that's me being a supportive friend walking with babies that's like half the job it's half the job right walking and then I'm probably gonna traverse and find a nice place with an outdoor lunch setup a fresco dining so all I'm saying is like don't look for me today I'm wearing biker shorts my hokas and I brought a fanny pack like it's over yeah and now I'm jealous because I was wearing more like athletic clothing this morning for my morning things and then I ran home and changed and like got fancy for the toast

but now I'm like, why did I do that? I wish I was literally dressed so similar to you. I was wearing shorts and oversized girly tee. I wore that yesterday on my walk. I meant to tell you like, what's the word? Attire? Dress code for the remainder of the season here on the toast, at least for me, is like a biker short. Like I'm not getting dressed up for the summer. Like, because I seriously, I'm going to be traversing. Like I'm going to get like 40,000 steps in a day like don't you're not gonna catch me looking nice on the toast unless I have something important afterwards oh okay I don't love that for like both of us and then when you come to New York and we end up doing the show together like

same energy oh I was thinking like like seem a lot energy oh my god we're on different paths like my summer days are going to be spent outside like I'm literally gonna like I want to be so tan I want my legs to be so strong from all the walking that I'm doing I guess I'm just used to like I do the toast and I immediately change like whatever I'm wearing for the toast that day is not what I'm wearing for the day I know but you toast in your house I don't like I'm already out yeah yeah you're already exactly so okay different strokes for different folks different seam laws for different sheen laws You toast in your house. I don't. Like I'm already out. Yeah. You're already. Exactly. So. Okay. Different strokes for different folks.

Different seem laws for different sheem laws. That's us. Sheem laws. So we've got a great show today because last night was part two of the Vanderpump reunion. We will be doing an official TV recap at the end of the fast five talking about reunion part two, which was a little slow. Yeah, but I enjoyed it. Like I was really looking forward to it all day. I had my dinner and then

I was like so excited to sit down for the reunion it it had me off my phone which is always good and I enjoyed my time with it so I'm not complaining you know oh I don't complain about anything you're just feeling positive today yeah I'm just like okay it was something nice to watch next week is the one where they're watching the finale together. It's going down. You're yelling timber. But my TiVo cut off the preview for next week. So my recording.

Your YouTube TV. Like, yeah. Yeah. It cut off the preview for next week. So I don't even know what's in store. I actually also have YouTube TV and mine was also cut off. So I saw like the first five seconds of Andy being like none of you have seen this and also my beginning was cut off a little I didn't get the here's what was on last part I got the tail end of it actually I don't know what mine was maybe it was just a longer episode perhaps I also started season three ofacks this week such a good show although the fatal flaw of

it is like I cannot fucking stand that girl cannot fucking stand she is positively dreadful and I think she's actually doing a good job as an actress she's meant to be like the worst millennial like there's a roast and Debra's getting ready for it and she's like I mean roasts are problematic like shut the fuck up like they're funny she's just like a token disgruntled energy like blue haired millennial like well they're not very inclusive like shut up she's so fucking annoying I can't stand her and like she's like she wears outfits like seriously to bother me like she's walking around in these like big jeans and socks like I I can't really explain why her jeans bother

me so much but they're quintessential disgruntled millennial. Yeah. Yeah. Also what everyone is talking about right now, I'm not sure if you're going to watch is Bridgerton. I am not going to watch. You're done. You're out on Bridgerton.

I thought that I'm done. I seriously, it pains me to say it, but like I can't. Do you know why? Part one. I don't think it's because of this, but this is why I probably won't

watch this because like it's only part one of this season and part two drops in a few weeks no literally this girl has been doing press for Bridgerton for months and has been wearing literally the blood of Jews on her fucking jacket she wears that big red dumb stupid hand literally I oh my god it bothers me so much yes she's wearing that red pin which is like artists for ceasefire which is just a bunch of artists who know nothing. And the pin is a red hand. And what is that red hand? Oh, it's from a very famous image

of literally a Palestinian terrorist killing two Jews and showing his hands up to everyone being like, look, I have the blood of the Jews on my hand. Fuck her. Fuck Bridgerton. Fuck everyone I'm not watching. Didn't know that. Fuck her.

Fuck Bridgerton. Fuck everyone I'm not watching. And no offense, I wasn't interested in her storyline. Okay, I said it. Oh, she said it. Like, sorry,. Fuck everyone I'm not watching. And no offense, I wasn't interested in her storyline. Okay? I said it. Oh, she said it. Like, sorry, but you're not Daphne. No, I wanted to watch because I love Bridgerton. And like, they set the scene.

Like, what's going to happen between these two friends to lovers? And I've heard it's very good. I literally, I was going to watch because I enjoyed the first two seasons. But like, I seriously don't give a rip. Like, if I never know. Her character's the worst. If I never know what happens to her and Colin, I'll be okay. I ain't watching.

Not watching? Well, thanks. It just took something off my content plate. And now when people are like, why are you talking about Bridgerton? There you go. By the way, I'm literally actively avoiding Bridgerton. Boycotting. I'm divesting from Bridgerton.

And sanctioning. Yeah. So you might ask, respectfully, of course. And yeah, I'm notesting from bridgerton and sanctioning yeah so you might ask respectfully of course and yeah i'm not watching it so sorry respectfully and seriously i'm watching hacks i'm mourning the loss of young sheldon i'm keeping up with vanderpump rules even though i'm pretty sure i don't want to smear her but i'm pretty sure your least fave swirly like was doing least fave things wait what from hacks what's the actress's name which one the worst one oh um hannah einbender yeah i'm pretty sure she's like she's jewish by the way she's like a jewish voice for peace you know capital j capital capital p yeah we all want peace we all want peace oh my god hate okay I knew I was right to

hate her yeah hold on let me just confirm that I need to I just need to confirm before I you know slander where did you see these things it was just so like I'm reminded that I saw this but it's nothing's coming up hold on nothing on her Instagram hold on hold the phone you take it back I take it back I'm not seeing anything okay we take it back yeah so we can still watch hacks by the way I feel like this season in particular they are really leaning into like the Joan Rivers. They have said that like, yes, the character is inspired by, but like it's literally Joan. It's all about late night and the show she lost.

Yeah. That's Joan. Yeah. Like, it is. So there's the Joan biopic we were looking for. And by the way, it's excellent. Like, I'm okay with it. I couldn't have casted anyone better than...

Than Jean Smart. Like, seriously, I fucking love that woman. Like, the show is so good. It brings me so much joy. It's confusing. I was going to say Jean Hackman because, like, it's hacks. Yeah. But he's the one I feel like vomiting.

And I do sometimes. Speaking of vomiting, we are going to use our platform today to send well wishes to our little sister, Margo. Satchel Cratchel. Satchel Cratchel, who we adore. You know, she works so hard. She's hustling.

She's at a work trip. She's on a flight. She was on the flight last night, and she fainted. She's never fainted before in her life, and it's actually, the way she was describing it to us, really scary.

She said, I literally just woke up on the floor. I don't even remember the moments leading up to it. That's so, so scary. So we're sending healing wishes, positive energy, and refuashlema to our sister.

And you snitches always write to her when we say anything about her. So make sure you send that too. To you snitches. To you snitches, to send it to the snitch. Yeah. Capital S.

Get well soon. Reflewish Lama. And now I do think without further ado, it's time for the stories because I really want to talk about Vanderpump Rules. So without further ado, it's time for the fast five stories that you need to know so that we can talk about Vanderpump Rules.

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who was spotted scolding a security guard on the Cam Film Festival red carpet. Do you see this video? Oh, my God, no. You didn't see this no i didn't and you know i see everything especially if i saw it no literally and by the way this and because this is something that would come across my desk like this is a developing story yes by the way daily mail is saying it was an assistant but it's both bad it was a working person on the carpet in a suit a woman and oh look at that finger yeah watch

there's a video that's going viral of her clearly speaking harshly to someone working on the can film festival red carpet yikes yeah so a report from page six has come out kelly roland scolded a cam film festival security guard because she was coming the security guard was becoming too quote aggressive and the singer quote doesn't care if she's coming off as a diva the destiny child alum had been attending the premiere of the french film marcello mio on tuesday when a female guard held up her arm to guide roland up the fame red steps the gesture didn't appear to sit well with kelly roland who scolded and held up her left index finger to admonish the woman in front of everyone and now an insider has claimed to the Daily Mail that the performer had had it with the staff on

the carpet. An insider says the people who are assigned to help stars walk the carpet were being aggressive and Kelly was trying to ignore it. By the time she got to the last woman she had had it because she scolded Kelly and told her to move when she was trying to wave to fans and help the paparazzi get their shot. The source added that the actress wanted to set a clear boundary with the security staffer. The source said she doesn't care if she comes across like a diva if she knows that she's advocating for herself. She isn't fake. Oh my God.

So I'm watching it. By the way, it's a lot of like annoying people. Like, yeah, this one, like the people are definitely being annoying, but like obviously it's their job and they know. Oh, okay. Hold on. Oh my God. the people are definitely being annoying but like obviously it's their job and they know oh okay hold on oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god i just want to say like like hands down this woman was being incredibly annoying but this woman was literally doing her job and there was another guy doing it with her um but kelly roland is literally standing in front

of thousands of people world media camera right the world media and so for her to act like that in public like dead ass i can only imagine what a nightmare she is behind the scenes like i'm sorry once once can be explained away twice in a couple of months heels of that gma thing and the dressing room was it nice enough and like can literally is one of the biggest red carpets and stages in the world like the biggest and they've got it down to a science like they're you're gonna get your picture don't worry no and the biggest people come through there like yeah and they can find a way to not yell at people like I'm sure it's frustrating but I'm sure the people working the event I'm sure it takes a lot to put on this carpet no no by the way we can say however many

times or however many different ways like yeah those people were being annoying they were doing their job and at the end of the day even if they weren't let's say they were they were doing their job incorrectly in no world are you as a grown woman allowed to talk to another person like that like seriously who the fuck do you think you are like seriously calm down yeah I mean this as far as like a PR spin goes I think this is an interesting one to say she doesn't care if she comes across like a diva if she knows that she's advocating for herself and I feel like advocating for yourself that's literally gaslighting like no like typically we're like yeah advocate for yourself but now it's like but also don't be rude to others so these are conflicting no also throwing in like

she's trying to say hi to the fans like makes her look like a woman of the people it's kind of a brilliantly crafted statement no when she's helping the paparazzi get their shot right like as if they've ever needed help as if they can't they didn't get it like it's literally a 0.5 second thing as if it isn't their literal job and you're literally one of 100 famous people on that carpet and not not to be weird you're literally like not even the most famous one there not by a mile and like did you see that insane video of Anya Taylor-Joy in Cannes? No. For some reason,

she's like walking the streets with no security. And like one person is with her and this person is so ill-equipped for what happens. She's wearing this enormous hat. Like seriously, it's like 12 feet wide.

And the paparazzi like seriously are inches from her and she's just like walking down the street trying to get to her car and she remains so, like seriously, I would have punched someone in the fucking throat she remains so calm and actually to the point where she looked scared like it was scary and go see it like people in like the the media and can are obviously nutty is the point I'm trying to make but this is like that was on the streets like in lawlessness the red carpet is an

extremely organized event this isn't the first canned film festival to ever happen it's not going to be the last I'm sure they've got it down to a science so I'm sorry I'm just really I'm not going to make an excuse and I like love Kelly Rowland and you know I love to make excuses for people that I like but there's really no excuse to talk to somebody like that like seriously it's so rude and like demeaning yeah when this person's literally just doing their job especially like what talk about a power imbalance you know right no and like she didn't put her hands on Kelly she was just like gesturing and being fucking annoying for sure but seriously you can't talk to people like that it's really rude yeah so so the so like the jury's out on whether Kelly Rowland like is

this like nasty diva but all signs are pointing to yeah like how many pieces of evidence do we need right and it's not i'm still holding out like a tiny bit of hope and it's not even like the the source is saying is not denying it i mean what can you deny we saw the video but like there could have been a spin this is just being like yeah she did that shit what are you gonna do about it? She has boundaries. And that's another thing, like boundaries.

We typically want boundaries. No, no. To use therapy talk in your defense is brilliant. Like, what are we going to say? Yeah,

you shouldn't advocate for yourself like you should. But yelling at someone who's trying to help you isn't advocacy. It's not advocating for yourself. But no, it's a pretty good spin.

You know, the next time like I get backlash, I'm going to say, listen, I'm putting out my boundaries and I'm advocating for myself and seriously like yeah period seriously but that's like when everyone said you said seriously too much you're advocating for yourself in a serious manner like who are you to thank you look down at that I just feel like the more buzzy therapy words you have in your statement, the less likely you are to get backlash. She really kind of did, what's the word I'm looking for?

Detonate, like, a little bit. Was that the word? Yeah. No, not detonate. What's opposite? Diffuse. Yeah, she diffused the bomb a little bit. We were all about to be like, and I'm like, wait, she's setting boundaries.

She's setting boundaries. Oh, well, you didn't say you were setting boundaries. Yeah, so funny. Maybe you funny it's almost as if that lady working at the can film festival was also setting boundaries she was like kelly she was the actual boundary but it's also like if you don't want people in your space and people surrounding you and like you want to set boundaries like maybe don't walk like the biggest red carpet in the world. Stay home in front of thousands of cameras and adoring fans and people like, yeah. Set your boundaries and stay home.

Yeah. No, like sounds like no one can really, no one can violate your boundaries if you're just home alone by yourself. Also, nobody can violate your boundaries if you're boundless, which I kind of add. Yeah.

I feel like I have a couple boundaries. Yeah. Mine is like kind of my goodreads and that's it my good reason is gonna stay private and I I hear the cries of my adoring fans turdy turdy we need to know what you're reading I don't know what about it having a public goodreads like actually made me feel uncomfortable okay she said in magic she's advocating for herself and we actually talked about this on the patreon episode that dropped yesterday claudia and i just did like a little podcast episode um general q a on our patreon people ask us questions we answer them not as honestly as we could not from the bath not from the bath but that would be a fun segment one day are you ready for our next story? A little more Kelly news. Clarkson?

No, actually. Breanne? No. Kelly Pickler? No. Kelly Catron? No. Kelly Teller?

No. Fuck. Kelly. Like this person is. Ripa? No, but that's a really good guess this person is actually not a Kelly now that I think about it like her name is Kelly but she doesn't have that Kelly energy oh but it's a her okay oh yeah Kelly okay I don't know it It's really bothering me. Kelly Osbourne. In the sense that, yeah.

In the sense that Kelly Osbourne is dismissing and talking about her former fashion police co-host, Juliana Rancic. In a most recent episode of her family's podcast, the Osbournes podcast, they talk about Juliana. So. Juliana. Juliana, I drink a lot of water. So they mentioned Juliana on the show and her brother said I have not seen anything from Juliana in very long time to which Kelly

replied that she wouldn't know because as far as I'm concerned she doesn't exist oh yeah she said um one second she said we don't need to give her fucking anything about Juliana Rancic. They were just like talking about her and the ordeal with Zendaya from back in the day. But Julie Oil. Yeah, that ended the show, Fashion Police. That was just like. The way Fashion Police went down in like a blaze of disclory. And how, that was after Joan ended, right? So nobody really even cared anymore. how that was after Joan ended.

Right. So nobody really even cared anymore. Did I say after Joan ended? After Joan died. Excuse me. Yeah. And then like Melissa sat in and it's like, please. And like where in the world is George Katziopoulos?

And the fact that there's literally a man named George Katziopoulos and George Stephanopoulos, and they both work in media. It's like crazy to me. I guess you're right. And they kind of look like they're like short Greek brunette men. George Stephanopoulos is. Is like news. Yeah, and I actually recently got a manicure. I sat next to him.

Did I say that story on the toast? No, that's like something you would have shared with us. Yeah, I got a manicure, and I was like 90% sure it was him. Like, and then I posted, I think I said on my Instagram, I was like, I think I just got a manicure next to George Stephanopoulos and somebody DM me. She's like, yeah, I'm a PA at whatever show. And he does get manicures and he does. She happens to like know where I live, but I got confirmation.

And then Catseopoulos. He's like an entertainment reporter, fashion swirly. Like not, I donseopolis is like an entertainment reporter fashion swirly like not I don't even think he was an entertainment reporter I think he was like a stylist with a good personality that was a great cast like we hadn't really heard of him but he obviously had insider like info and he was like he's an expert not you know you need a mix but he I don't think he like went on to do more media stuff would Would you know if he did? Right. So let me get to the story. So Kelly Osbourne dismissed Juliana

as irrelevant in her family's podcast. She said, we don't need to give her fucking anything after Sharon Osbourne mentioned Juliana. Kelly's brother, Jack, and their father, Ozzy, recalled when Kelly was wrongly accused of making the, quote, fucking racist comment about Zendaya's hair on the talk show. I thought Juliana said it. Juliana said it.

But then Zendaya was like, I mean, sorry, Kelly was like accused. People got confused and thought it was Kelly. I guess Kelly got some of the backlash splashed onto her. When in reality, it was Juliana who said that Zendaya's hair.

Zendaya smelled like patchouli oil. Oil and weed. Oh, yes. That's a fucking crazy thing to say. Right. So then Jack said he hasn't seen anything from her in a long time, to which Kelly replied she wouldn't know. As far as I'm concerned, she doesn't exist.

Zendaya had condemned the comment at the time, as did Kelly. But like clearly Kelly and Juliana do not speak. Never worked past it. Bad blood. But that's actually kind of surprising from Kelly that she would not be able to like give grace and forgive and move on from the situation when like what she said.

Was worse. Who's going to be cleaning your toilets. Donald Trump. Donald Trump. Yeah, was worse. And so she knows what it's like to like feel, to try and say something and feel misunderstood. And if you kick every latino out of this country then who's gonna clean your toilets donald trump

oh no that's not i mean in the sense that seriously so there must be like other stuff i mean i, at least I hope. Because like if she's really holding on to that, when she's been on that end of it and like knows her heart. So there has to be other stuff where like she thinks she knows Juliana's heart and she's like, that's not someone I want to associate with outside of that one comment. Because to end things like over one comment, when she literally knows how it feels to say something and not mean it that way,

but it comes off that way. I also recently did go on a Juliana Rancic stalk. She seems to be doing well. You know, she's got her restaurants that are super, super popular. She has like a chain of steakhouses, Italian something in,

in Chicago that are super pops. I think she also does QVC and her and Bill are just, you know, empire building, family building. And I think they live a nice quiet life. Good. Good. Good. Also, QVC and her and Bill are just you know empire building family building and I think they live a nice quiet life good good good also what was I going to say about Miss Kelly O so funny you're right she's not a Kelly no not in the sense that you know, Ripa, and Teller are. Right, exactly. So also, all's to say, like, the Osborne family has a podcast. Right.

That's good to know. If you wanted to go listen. I didn't, but thank you. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Some of your least favorite news. Food? D-U-I.

Don't say that about food oh yeah southern charm alum katherine dennis has been arrested and charged with a dui katherine dennis was arrested in south carolina and charged with driving under the influence the former southern charm star was stopped by the goose creek police department in berkeley department in berkeley south carolina just after 10 p.m local time and issued a traffic ticket on may 20th according to a police report obtained by People. She was charged with a DUI for the transport of alcohol that had been opened per police. One of the responding officers told a colleague that Dennis was possibly impaired upon stopping her and another officer wrote in the report that she had glass glossy eyes. Do they mean glassy? I guess both work. Glossy eyes and an odor of alcohol coming

from her. She was then arrested for driving under the influence. She's scheduled to appear in court on June 4th. Yikes bikes. Yikes bikes. Yikes bikes should have drove a bike. Should have driven anything else. Driven. No, like, sorry, I have no choice but to hate.

And also, the fact that, you know, this is a person who's really struggled custody-wise. This does not bode well for whatever case. It's always ongoing. I feel like Thomas is always trying to screw her. And now he is like a legitimate legal leg to stand on. And I mean this in the most unironic way. Do better.

Yeah, I was just looking at her Instagram the other day because she posted like a cute photo with her son and her brother. And her son like is just so big now. And I was just like, oh, wow. Things are going well for Catherine. But things are not. No, you jinxed it.

Not to blame you. No, I didn't say it though. I just like thought it. And I enjoyed their photo and I moved on. And I'm sad to see this. You know, I've always say it though. I just like thought it and I enjoyed their photo and I moved on and I'm sad to see this. You know, I've always written for Catherine. I know you have, but you have to officially like unmount the horse.

I can hold my faves accountable. So not good. Agreed. Really disappointing. In the custody situation, especially because like in the early days of the custody situation, like her drinking was the issue.

She had like had to go to rehab and she had to stay sober. And so for then it to become a pattern does not look good for her. Nor is it good. It doesn't look good and it isn't good. And Thomas isn't the type to like let it go. He's going to use this to his advantage.

He's like a litigious prick. Yeah. But actually, and I know they're like, seriously, he's a horrible person too, but it's like, where would the kids seriously be better off if she's drinking and driving? Yeah. But he's also a freak who like fucking dates

like 11 year olds. I don't know. No, and he's like, there's a lot of allegations. He's never been like held to court in anything. So he just can't like swing them. Say it. But the nanny, there was bad stuff yeah there was very bad stuff oh so yeah do better for real like seriously like i hope you're listening

and unironically learning are you ready for our next story which is what fashion news number four did you see anne hathaway paired a gapap shirt dressed with millions of dollars in Bulgari diamonds not me missing like all the stories today usually when you're like did you see I I saw two days ago like and I saw this a couple times before I was like you know what this is pretty fabulous and I'm choosing it okay I'm looking she was at a Bulgari jewelry jewelry event in Rome on Monday and she stepped out in a glamorous white shirt dress from Gap. She looked unreal and it's just ironic she's also wearing millions of dollars in jewelry.

Okay, I was like looking for these photos and I'm like scrolling through pictures. I'm like, okay, this is obviously not the white dress. I thought you wore like a seriously like a Gap sweatshirt. No, no, no, no. Like with the GAP on it. It's a summer dress from Gap. It's a custom creation by Zach Posen,

Gap's recently appointed creative director and executive vice president. I didn't know that, by the way. Me neither. But this is a great advertisement. I love this dress. I mean, she looks sick. She's had such an interesting transition over the last couple of years. Like, obviously, you know, there was a time when she was, like, so hated.

And, like, people just thought she was so annoying. And then, yeah, she's come out of that which is super impressive. But like how she also came out of it as like the it girl of fashion. Yeah. Was she at the Met Gala? I don't think this year. That's so weird because she's so fashion-y. Yeah.

No I think you're right. I don't. I don't. If she was I don't remember. No the last time she was I think was last year where she wore that Versace um dress with like all the pins yeah she looked amazing she did look amazing I wonder why she wasn't there this year because she's like doing promo and like a lot of things like yeah she is well maybe she was just like busy in Roma

in Roma she's like never in America. Does anybody else feel that? Anytime I see a picture of Anne Hathaway, she's in like a European city. Yeah. It's true. I feel like she actually, she like emerges and she's everywhere for a second, but then she kind of hibernates.

And I feel like she's a good work-life balance. She has like a lot of peace in her life, I feel. I think so too. And when she's not out there, like we don't think about her. We don't talk to her. We don't say like, where is she? She's kind of left alone.

She's carved out a nice place for herself. Yeah, and like when it comes to her personal life, I know she's like married with X amount of kids. I don't know her kids' names. I don't know how many she has. I don't know the name of her husband. I actually agree. I think she has like a private, private life.

Beautiful. While also being like incredibly famous. And successful. And I think like getting all that hate taught her. Like the things that are actually important to her. Like her kids and her husband. Like she doesn't want them to be a part of that. No but like literally she's not been in anything.

Maybe one or two things. I'll go to her IMDB. That's flopped. Like she. She knows how to pick them. And she like no. She's a great actress. So it doesn't flop.

Because she's like holding it down. Yeah Les Mis. of you Devil Wears Prada Princess Diaries the intern our favorite movie Bride Wars oh good I'm sorry there's one flop in here what the hustle with Rebel Wilson did you ever see it no I didn't but that was I feel like that was actually like a bad time in her career that was a really oh I'm sorry I'm sorry. I did see it. It was so bad. Yep. It was offensively bad. Yep. Princess Diaries.

Did you say that? Yep. Brokeback Mountain. Didn't know she was in that. Have you ever seen it? Oh my God. Yes. Okay.

I saw it for the first time recently. Not recently. Like during COVID. I was like, I've never seen Brokeback Mountain. And I call myself an ally. Jackie, it was so fucking good. Really? It was so good. Well, that makes sense. It, like, won so many awards. No, and I know, like, for, like, gay men, like, that scene where they're, like, fucking in the tent is, like, it was, like, a coming out moment for, like, so many guys, like, realized

they were gay, and, like, I got it. Like, the movie was incredible, by the way, and it was so sad. Oh, my God. Like, just these two gay cowboys who, like, couldn't and wouldn't, like, they would not live that life. And so Anne Hathaway plays one of their wives. I forget which one. I think she's Heath Ledger's wife. And so they go, like, literally, they, like, fall in love once. I forget where they meet. And then every year they take a fishing trip.

And they're like, I'm going fishing with my buddy. And it's, like, this gay thing. And they're like, I'm going fishing with my buddy. And it's like this gay thing. And they're fucking. And then, can I spoil it for you? Well, sure, because I probably won't watch it. But you've made it. I do want to, but spoil it. Go ahead.

And at the end of the movie, like Jake Gyllenhaal, it's like, it's 15 years go by. And on the 15th camping trip, he's like, I can't fucking do this anymore. Like, I'm gay. I love you. And like, let's go be gay. And I know it'll be hard. I'm like let's go be gay and I know it'll be hard I'm like we'll get beat up but it'll be worth it and Heath Ledger's like fuck no we are not like being gay what time period is it set in that's a good is it a period piece no no it's not

a period piece but it's it's not current I feel like it's like 1963 okay oh wow okay that was later that's like technically yeah I guess it is so after this fishing trip Jake Gyllenhaal's like listen if you won't be with me like we're not doing this anymore I'm out and Heath Ledger's like fine you're out bye Heath Ledger's just like really toxically closeted like he like it's like kind of like a you know like one of those guys who like you know like it's like kind of like a you know like one of those guys who like you know beats up gays

but is also gay oh like that guy from Glee exactly but I don't think in the movie Heath Ledger beats anyone's up he kind of minds his own business but so he goes back to his wife

Anne Hathaway and oh she knows because they get they're getting messy she's helping him pack up his things he comes back from the fishing thing

she takes a box of tackle back it hasn't even been touched then the next year Jake Gyllenhaal comes to pick him up and they're getting sloppy. They're kissing in the dumpster. Like she sees it. So he comes back and then Jake Gyllenhaal, you know, goes on his merry way. And Heath Ledger is like living in regret. He's like so upset. And I think he goes to find Jake Gyllenhaal and tell him the truth. But at that point, Jake Gyllenhaal has left his wife, is living the gay life and gets killed. And it's too late for them. And Heath Ledger's just crying, crying. It was very powerful. Wow. Oh, and they meet because they both get this like weird job being like park rangers or

something. And they have to like watch. Oh, they're like, they're sheepmen. They have to watch the sheep so that the sheep don't disappear. But then there's just one scene where they get kind of carried away and start fucking. And they stop looking after the sheep and the sheep run amok. The sheep run amok. They're herders, herders, right? You have to keep the sheep in a herd.

It's an amazing movie. Wow. It sounds really good. I forgot Anne Hathaway was in it. Because let's be real. It's so not about her yeah maybe i will watch it once enough time has passed and i forgot your recap yeah because i did just like spoil it because i had no idea and then when when he ledger goes to find jake

gyllenhaal and he's literally dead i'm like you're kidding yeah it was giving you know right person wrong time that's just yeah Yeah, to say the least. Yeah. Well, she was also in Ella Enchanted, a classic. Like I said, the queen doesn't flop. Ocean's Eight. Where did we all land on that as a society? You and I saw it together in theaters, right?

I know I saw it in theaters. I know I saw it in theaters. So yeah, maybe we were next to each other. I liked it. I enjoyed it. And I think as a society, it was done right. Like if you're going to do a man's thing as a woman like you can't fuck it up like because then they'll be like this is why women shouldn't do things so don't do something unless you're gonna make it amazing and that movie was incredible for sure but don't they do that all

the time like Madam Web yeah no and it like it seriously it's bad for women yeah no but I feel like I really enjoyed the movie but and then it actually got me watching other oceansceans movies. And I'm like, oh, this is a good franchise. You guys have a nice thing going on here. I think that another good example of doing it was like Wonder Woman. I don't think there had ever been a female-led Marvel DC. And that one blew everyone's out of the water. It was like actually a good movie. It was nominated for an Oscar, I think.

And it broke all the records and people loved it one and two. So yeah, then they got a bunch of girlies who were never watching DC and Marvel into that sort of shit. So if you're going to join like a man's space as a woman, you got to crush it. And if not, seriously, it's bad for women. Agreed. And then Brie Larson as Captain Marvel. How did that do?

Crushed on the heels of Wonder Woman. Great. Great. Elizabeth Zod. And Wonder Woman was also directed by a woman. So they really, they put their whole, for lack of a better word, pussy into it and crushed it. Yeah.

Even though you've never seen Wonder Woman. No, but I know the cultural impact. I really need to see it. You should see it. I think you would like it. It's historical fiction. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's your time period too.

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based on the life and violent death of Nicole Brown Simpson, her three sisters are sharing her story. On June 12th, her sisters will mark the 30th anniversary of the brutal 1994 murder of Nicole, a woman better known for her tumultuous marriage to football superstar OJ Simpson, and the gruesome way her life ended rather than for how beautifully they say it was lived. The life and murder of

Nicole Brown Simpson which will air on June 1st and 2nd features interviews with 50 people including Nicole's sisters and other family members and friends as well as never before seen footage of her. Other anniversaries just didn't feel right they said but we decided 30 years was probably the best and last time to hear her voice and tell her story. Also, I think like in the last couple of years, there have been so many with OJ like getting out of prison and then dying. Like it's been spoken about a lot. And there was the Ryan Murphy. And I feel like it probably is enormously frustrating for like the biggest tragedy in your life to a become like entertainment for people. People watch like a scripted show, a documentary. There's been many documentaries. But then also it just kind of became like a joke

in culture, you know? And you forget like these are people and they have families who still are here. And for Nicole's side from like, I feel like a lot of times when there's documentaries and they're done right, it's told from the perspective of the victim and the victim kind of gets like a light shown on them, like what their life was like before and justice and I feel like we never really got that for Nicole it's just sort of become like a joke and about the trial and about like her last days not her entire life and we certainly never got that for Ron Goldman right right because he was sort of like an ancillary he wasn't famous you know Nicole was the one married and Nicole was the one friends with Kris Jenner and Nicole was one and real like where's the justice for Ron

Goldman and his family yeah I wonder if Kris and like Faye will be in this I feel like they would be if there's 30 family friends like and they're her closest friends and it's put on by the sisters so it's it's friendly yeah it would definitely be crazy if Kris Jenner was in it but yes Kris testified for yeah like why wouldn't she be in it especially if the sisters like are asking her friends yeah so June 1st and 2nd on Lifetime and I feel like the the girls the Kardashian girls have maintained over the years that they are like friendly with Nicole's family and that's why they're always like hesitant to like ever speak out and be disrespectful. Yeah. And the kids.

Yeah. And the kids. So I would love to hear from. I wonder what the kids like thoughts are like. Yeah. Do the kids think that OJ did it? I don't know. And that's also like up until, you know, two weeks ago was like their one living parent.

Right. I don't know. Did OJ ever see them? At post-prison? Like, would we even know that? I'm sure some. Yeah. I feel like we would know. Did OJ ever see them at post-prison? Like, would we even know that? I'm sure some, yeah. I feel like we would know. He was, like, pretty public.

Like, always, like, tweeting and stuff. Yeah, no, like, videoing himself from the golf course, like, talking about his thoughts and feelings. Yeah, yeah. He was kind of an influencer. A content creator. A content creator, yeah. Because he had no influence. Speaking of content in that world,

like, where's lamar's and caitlin's podcast i'm waiting keeping up with sports keeping up with sports where is it maybe it came out and like is making no there's no way you know that they would have said something like newsworthy in their first up with sports like this sort of lead time for a podcast is unacceptable disgraceful okay so the show is up on they released a sizzle in march unacceptable unacceptable people always ask us like our advice for starting a podcast and it's like just start like don't announce it don't make a big party don't make it a big deal like you have to start and no this doesn't bode well this is a testament to that i'm losing my patience keeping up with sports this doesn't bode well and a minute a minute long sizzle and then nothing else that's

like seriously one of my favorite stories you know how at the end of the year we do like our top five favorite stories of the year are you putting that one like that's how I feel about it right now like it makes me laugh so hard okay that's so funny my top one of my top favorite stories is like the fact that this year Kelly Osbourne and maybe it's just because it's top of mind she like actually spoke about like her viral moment and the viral moment like got an even bigger platform this year that probably would be in my top five no my top five would just be that moment still like of course like it'll be it'll be like the story of the year for eternity.

The story of every year. The story of every year. Also, one of your stories of the year at this junction would be the Dublin Portal. Yes, that's my Roman Empire. Yeah, you love the Dublin Portal. I love more what the Dublin Portal stands for and what we can learn about society if we extrapolate and sort of look at the portal at a glance. And what does it say to you? This is why we can't

have nice things. People are seriously like the worst like just awful. I have no faith in humanity and we're all collectively and not we because I don't like associate myself or really relate to the people around me but the people around me, you're disgusting. Yeah. And what do you think about the portal in general? The interconnectivity and the connecting of... Stupid and sweet. It was supposed to be nice.

It was supposed to be nice. Yeah. Should we dive into the TV recap, part two of the Vanderpump Rules reunion aired last night? I would love to. So part two of theanderpump rules reunion aired last night i would love to so part two of the vanderpump rules reunion aired last night we got ally and joe yes and i just want to say like joe like makes me cry and by the way her and tom schwartz are quite literally perfect for each other he's such a dick and the way he like wouldn't even acknowledge like what happened between them like was a relationship and like just throw her a bone like you're in a new relationship just call her your

girlfriend like call her what she was that segment was so chaotic she can't oh my god everybody talking everybody talking on top of each other but even when just tom and joe were talking like they were talking on top of each other saying half sentences like she can't be on the show because like she doesn't know how to like. Talk on TV. Which not. Most people don't know. But like. It was infuriating to watch.

And then. Lisa's chiming in. And Lala's chiming in. I'm like. There are four people talking. And Andy. I couldn't make any. Thank God I was watching with subtitles.

And thank God they put subtitles. When people were talking over. Right. But I'm glad I had my own too. Because I needed them twice. Can I ask you a question? Mm-hmm. Because I know you like.

Ride hard for Lala and like when it comes like the arguments she was making like I saw her side but did you feel like she was being really annoying like chatting when it wasn't about her like like with Joe and Tom like she just kept part of the reason why there there was chaos people talking over each other you could count 10 out of 10 Lala was gonna be one of the people talking over someone oh for sure and maybe if it was someone else it would have bothered me but in that moment like Lala was saying and asking the things that were literally coming out of my mouth like when Lala was being Andy Lala was being Andy but it was like

when why how like they were making no sense they needed a translator and I felt like she was the voice of the people at the very least my voice because I did not know what they were saying and neither did she no I found it immensely frustrating to watch and like at one point I did not know what they were saying and neither did she. No, I found it immensely frustrating to watch. And like at one point I had no idea what was going on. Yeah, I think by the end of it, what my, more so my issue was like, they would talk about, you know, it was two weeks until they started having sex. Like when? This season or last season?

Like when was any of this? And I guess like last season at the reunion when they were like arguing about Joe he was secretly dating her then right and then he was also secretly dating her at the beginning of this season so they were literally secretly dating for like six months that's a long time like I just I'm still confused on the timeline I just felt like every like Joe was just a person who can't communicate and this group of people like especially if you have a strong personality like katie like they just ate her alive i felt so bad like when she just started crying ben was watching too and ben doesn't like know everything you just saw like what what on the surface is like this person with a really strong personality

who's like really angry taking all that anger out on joe like it was so sad and in in that relationship like i just really like i have a lot of sympathy for Joe and yes Katie and Joe would never be friends yeah no the thing is in that situation like Katie's 100% right like this girl like moved shadily moved in on her husband slept on in his spare bedroom when they barely knew each other and then started having sex two weeks later like that's not someone who was you really can't be like that dumb to think that like that, that just happens. You don't like literally fall into someone's lap. However,

it's unfortunate for Katie that she is like the worst possible adversary because she's so weak and she's so sad and so pathetic. Katie just comes off looking like a villain. Katie just comes off looking really bad, even though like she's right in her anger. I want to say, I thought like the person who had the best showing last night was Ariana, because people had like issues with her. She had a conversation with Lala. And I just thought

the way she explained herself, because I agree with Lala. It's like, it's infuriating. Like, we have to film with this person. We can't look him the one way and we get in trouble. We are literally living with him. Like, how are we supposed to respect your boundaries if we don't understand them? And I just thought the way Ariana like super calmly explained herself. Like I thought she came off looking really rational. Really mature. And like I had a lot of respect for how she handled that situation.

Because it's all very emotional. And she kept her composure like an expert. I agree. And I feel like she you know conceded points that she needed to. Like when she was talking about Sheena and she was like it took Lala saying something for me for me to see it that way I didn't see it like I felt like I felt the same way where she explained herself really well I thought she came off looking really good and it's what's so crazy is like the whole scandal of all it was

just like this big tumultuous storm and like she never did like aside from like the two conversations while they had while they were filming while she like screamed at him was like I hope you die and I don't give a fuck about Raquel like never did anything to him never so she really is very mature for that and I want to say like too mature for this show agreed like she was giving Queenie energy and while that's admirable like she feels above it because she's acting above it. Nobody else would act this way. Yeah.

Also, I did have one small issue with Lala. And because I agree with what she's saying when it comes to Katie and everyone that's like, look, we're all bleeding out and you can't, you know, hide something like because it's inconvenient for the storyline. Look, I agree with that. But like I feel like people have hidden things over the years and people have let them get away with it. You know especially Lala. Lala keeps a lot of her stuff private. Lala kept her relationship private before he came on the show and everybody sort of just like you know allows certain things people don't come on and share and like it's sort of this like understood thing but so for her to

like now be like we're being transparent like it hasn't always been that way yes but I think what she's saying like we're being transparent about like the dynamics within the group on this show like if you if Katie wanted to have a boyfriend and he didn't want to film I don't think Lala would be mad about that that's like what Lala was doing and she's owned up to the fact that like she was dishonest for a period in time and I just want to say like her dishonesty was like great for the storyline like is Lala a sugar baby you know what I mean as opposed to like if she just rolled up with a boyfriend that was kosher for everyone so I think what she's saying and I thought when Katie was gonna say to her like and someone said isn't it fair that she like has these thoughts and she

doesn't want to share them on the show and I was like yeah Lala isn't that fair like she's allowed to like have private thoughts Lala was like yeah and if she had came to me and said like this is how I feel but I don't want to say it because of our business and I have a lot invested with her I would have been like okay but instead she said this is true and if you say it I'm gonna ruin your business that's not a fucking that's true that's by the way that's the and that's definitely true like she treats me like an enemy that's what you say to your enemy not not to your friend, ever. And Lala finds, like, of course, destroying anyone's business is, like, wrong, but Lala's business is so personal to her because she's, like, a single mom supporting her kid and fighting this custody battle.

So it all comes back to that. Actually, that's a great point. Yeah, and I would never have seen that if she didn't, like, spell it out that way. And I also think people love to compare, like, Lala's treatment of Randall to Ariana's treatment of Tom. And Lala said the biggest difference for her is that she has a child with kid I feel like one of the biggest differences is that Tom is everyone's friend before during and after not after so much his relationship with Ariana he was in the group before he'll be in the group after it was Lala's plus one he like you guys can live without his

friendship you never had it before you barely had it while we like it doesn't make sense for you guys to be friends with Randall now yeah and I think Sheena also brought up a really good point like the comparison of Randall and Tom Schwartz is I mean Tom Sandoval excuse me is actually unfair to Tom Sandoval like Tom Sandoval's a prick Tom Sandoval's a cheater but he's not a criminal and there was so besides that him cheating on Lala, there was a lot in that LA Times article. There was literally

a documentary about his, you know, drugs, underage women. Like, it goes far beyond being unfaithful in a relationship. So I think we really need to stop comparing these two.

Like, dead ass. But then also, just like, Sandoval's crime of cheating was a little bit worse than Randall's cheating because it was with the best friend. So it's more serious in that way. I don't know if I agree with that, actually. Like Randall was accused of cheating with multiple women and underage girls.

Like I think that's worse than sleeping with someone's best friend. I don't know. Sandoval wouldn't have been as big as it was if Tom was cheating with someone we didn't know. But for sure, I think from like an, this is like fucked up to say, from like an entertainment perspective, yeah, like it being the best friend made it juicier. But I don't think it makes it more ethically wrong than. I think it does.

What Randall did. I don't. No, not than what Randall did. Sorry. Is it more wrong? Is it the same level of wrong to just cheat or to like cheat with someone's best friend? It's more wrong with. Cheat with someone's best friend. But I'm talking about Randall versus Tom no but I'm just

saying Tom's cheating has like more points against it not more than Randall but then standard cheating points yeah it goes standard cheating cheating with the best friend what Randall did yes great I'm so glad we worked that out um what else happened in the reunion by the way like Tom Sandoval I shit out a condom and excuse me and had lockjaw what is that I had lockjaw the next morning and shit out a condom two weeks later I think he was trying to say that Sheena has a dick yeah that was like right I'm so what and like it was like a joke for Andy. Maybe that's something like gay people say, but I hang out with a lot of gay folk. I've never heard that phrase in my life.

Yeah. And that's not like Sheena. When I think of Sheena, it's not like, yeah, she straps it on. Like she's just a girl. It was like him trying to be funny. It was so weird to me. Maybe I found the episode boring because my boyfriend Brock didn't say one word. I seriously like would take a bullet. I love

him. I know. Does he have any friends for Lala? Did you see that Lala and Sheena spent Mother's Day together? I love them. No and it was like the cutest with the girls and the girls wore matching dresses and they ran at each to each other from the parking lot. No, because I don't know if I follow Sheena. I do. I think that's where I saw it actually. Yeah, because I follow Lala. No, you know what? I'm going to hit her with the follow.

I feel like Lala's the mom who reposts the content. Sheena's the one who takes it. Yeah. Lala doesn't like post that much. But Sheena's like a full-time content creator. She vlogs. I'm sure to start watching her YouTube channel soon if you want to see Brock.

By the way, literally. No, I follow Brock on TikTok. He's, you're going to die. He's, they bought a house and he is doing like an outdoor DIY, like side yard project. It's going really well. Oh, that's really exciting and fun.

Yeah, it's actually, it's really good content because he just doesn't make me wait. He's like, all right, here today, I'm going to put put in the cement and then by the end of the video the cement is in there's no part two I hate that shit oh that's really great and I also want to say one of the bigger plot twists of the show in general is that like Allie is OTP yeah like when James showed up like literally two days later with a new girlfriend it was like after being in the gate he was engaged to Raquel no and then it's like a girlfriend who does like astrology readings no I'm like she had met him at like one of his shows it was it was not serious

not for if I was a betting woman not for one second would I have bet on them going the distance but like I I ship harder than they might be the sheena and brock are also a great couple but like they're extremely functional relationship I have one thing to say I forgot function Ariana was only wrong about one thing last night and I get that it's so personal to her but the thing with the attempted dog killer like she is wrong for she's not and Tom Sandoval lame lies with everyone and Tom because Andy being Andy being like what could have gone differently like to have avoided this like and the fact that her initial reaction wasn't like I

should have cleaned my room and it was like I needed to be consulted more about when the air conditioning guy was coming like they're coming to fix the AC we gotta live with AC like I think she was wrong I don't think she's wrong for like having chicken skewers in her room I think she's wrong for putting all the blame on Sandoval when it's a mix of like Sandoval and and also Ariana living with someone who she doesn't communicate with and this is what's going to happen if if the home is not a harmonious space but also Ariana living in a pigsty I thought that's what you were gonna say oh yeah but no like you can't like have a functioning household when people aren't communicating and like there's you can't go into one room and you can't like have a functioning household when people aren't communicating and

like there's you can't go into one room and you don't know what's going on and what the what's bad you know what I mean like yeah that's not gonna work out so I think she was just like wrong for being so angry with Tom about that because it wasn't his fault alone but I don't think it was her fault alone either no me neither but calling him an attempted dog murderer like being extreme putting all the blame on him she's wrong for that i i agree with that um so part three next week it looks great but they always even though my tivo cut it off but like they were referencing something this episode oh because they talked about how schwartz was the only one who said something about ariana like you're not the queen of the group right they were like schwartz was the only

one who said that ego schwartz was the one who said ego and then they like panned to Lala because we know in the last episode like after Ariana storms out she says I don't know anyone who gets cheated on all of a sudden they become God yeah no that is going to really um shake things up yeah and it would have shaken things up if they watched it like privately and filmed the reunion a week later, but like to get their emotions. No, I love this idea. I love this idea.

As they're processing them, like it's too much. Especially knowing that Ariana didn't watch any of the season. Yeah. Which I'm coming to more and more appreciate. Like she doesn't need to see everyone in their internal battles about Tom and like it's hurtful to her and she's right to be hurt, but they're also right to feel that way.

I don't like, I'm glad she didn't see all that, but I also thought what was so crazy and Lala had a fire point as she always does was when Charlie said about Lala and Ariana sat there and laughed no I thought that made Lala look really really petty um because yeah that scene made Ariana look so bad like it was awful but that conversation that they had at the plant store like put it to bed and I thought Ariana really understood why she was wrong and I thought her apology was really genuine in that moment why we never saw that yeah I felt like at the plant store what we saw was like not enough of a conversation of the severity of what was said like it was just like Ariana said

that's over the top and I should have said that's over the top no like that was fucking wicked to say a wicked thing and if you could sit there and hear that about your friend and like you don't have to stand like some people are confidential so you don't have to say something but like but she was like laugh like that's not your friend that's not your friend yeah but the fact that it was handled and then they cut to that scene made Lala look petty. Like just sort of scraping her. But yeah, I'm glad she brought it up though because I didn't know that. I mean either.

And it made Ariana look really fucking bad. Yeah. When she's like this woman who supports women. You know, that's not. They were talking about her kid. Like it was bad. It was wicked. It was wicked. That Charlie is a little rat.

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