The Toast - Sex Change Operation: Friday, January 24th, 2025

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy. Like should we just fuck it, you know? No. Oh, okay. Happy Friday. Like literally not worth it whatsoever. We can write an original song. We could sing another song.
Starting point is 00:00:14 We could have another competition. Like, no. Oh, okay. So no. I don't even have the itch anymore. Yeah. Fuck that song. Fuck that song. Hey Jax, how you doing? Happy Friday. I'm doing good. Very excited the itch anymore. Yeah, fuck that song. Fuck that song. Hey, Jax, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:00:25 Happy Friday. I'm doing good. Very excited that it's Friday. It's such a loaded Friday. Yes, a lot of change on the horizon for La Tour De Loup. It is the last episode in that studio. In what? I know we've been making that studio in those four walls.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Thank you. I know we've been making that studio in those four walls. Thank you. I know we've been making a lot of it, but I also feel like we really need to acknowledge the space. No, it's literally that scene in the Sex and the City movie when Samantha flies in and they're cleaning out Carrie's closet. A lot of shit went down in this place.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Something must be, what's the second half of that line? Fuck, I need to say it perfectly, just hold on. Okay. Sex and the city. Okay, okay. A lot of shit went down in this place. Something must be paid. Homage, respect.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I got it. A lot of shit went down in this apartment. Attention must be paid. And then she pulls out the bottle of champagne. And then the other one. That's what we need to do here today. Now, yes, we have made quite a moment of this move. It's literally not a big deal, like at all.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Having said that, these fools came down around us. And like a Phoenix, I will rise from the ashes of this building that I have come to fucking hate. I have- The building, I think you move out today and then the building gets demolished tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Is that how it works? The thing is, is that at one point in time, especially when you lived here, this was a flourishing office building. Yeah, I used to, in my lifetime, I have been in this building to go to the dentist. I don't know what my dentist is doing. Where going. Oh, there's a sign on their door They went a couple of walks down and then also a bar class bar studio in the building very famous art gallery
Starting point is 00:02:14 Very prominent art gallery. Where are they taking? I saw she had a sign in the elevator She heard gallery moved. I think she went downtown But yes at what point this was flourishing and you know, very center of commerce center of, it was a bustling metropolis and you know, designer next door. Yes. I had heard whispers that they were turning this building into condos and I actually,
Starting point is 00:02:37 I got confirmation that that was happening. And so people slowly started to move out and I was like, whatever, like when we have to go, we'll go. And I'm not sure what the timeline of the condo association is, but do you remember when there was that earthquake like a year ago? Yes. I actually thought, because I have been the only tenant in this building for, for maybe a year.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I have thought when the earthquake was happening that they didn't know that I still was renting here and that the demolition had begun. And I was so afraid. So what I mean, like there is seriously, like if you have a problem in this building, the toilet doesn't flush. Like this building is basically abandoned, but I still pay rent.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I don't even know, like it's so turn. Having said that, my tenure here is coming to an end. I have a fabulous new building that I'm so excited about. The bathroom is so nice. It's just, it's just a new, it's a new chapter for tour day. It is, and we love a new chapter for everything, you know? And it's a much bigger- The chapters are good, the chapters of our lives.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Okay, Cheyenne Kimball. No, it's Brett, not Eldridge. Young. Young. What's the Cheyenne Kimball song? I'm hanging on. She doesn't say chapter in there? Today.
Starting point is 00:03:57 She might, nothing, nobody stopped her from saying chapter. Okay, whatever. Not only is it a new chapter, but I'm also like creating a real space. I can't wait for you to see it. You haven't seen it yet. It's not just a studio.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Like there is a studio, there is an office. There's actually gonna be a second filming space for when you come to town, for when the good guys, you know, like to suck at the teat of the toast. I am just really creating sort of like a space for woman creators and Ben. Like you sound like Adam Newman. Like I'm culturing a space.
Starting point is 00:04:24 No, Jackie, I sound like the founders. Remember that member that woman's only club the wing that was like really controversial Yes, but it was also on younger and it was like real on younger No There was a time where like they announced this like new kind of so house type of thing in New York and for some reason Like it was national news like who cares about also sound like an Adelvi. Yes Creating what was her name? The Anadelvi Foundation. It's the Turdi Asheri Safar Wine Reb Foundation.
Starting point is 00:04:51 It's called Turd Work. Where creators can come and just sort of strip back, be themselves, create content. You seriously sound like the founder of WeWork. I just want you to know. And you know what? I actually understand him on a deep level now cause I am so excited for my space. You have the same dream.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I have the same dream. Yes, Jackie. Well, that's very exciting for all those who shall join turd work. Now, should we talk about sort of like the big elephant in the room? What is that? I trimmed my hair one inch.
Starting point is 00:05:26 That was yesterday that we had that conversation. I've lived lifetimes in between. That's so crazy. Yes. How does it like, like, how do I look? Your hair looks very beautiful today. You don't look one iota different. You couldn't have said a more complimentary thing
Starting point is 00:05:41 if you tried. Right. That's what you were going for. I was being really crazy. I was hoping that would happen. When I went to mahogany, I was like, so you know face framing layers, but keep the length. And she was like, you want to trim? I'm like, yeah, well, it's hard to say cut the dead,
Starting point is 00:05:56 but don't change the length of my hair at all. Right, right. So she was like, do you want to trim? I'm like, but like a little one. And my hair actually wasn't dead. It was just like kind of flat. I needed to refresh. And I also made my next appointment, my next two appointments, because I'm thinking I got like a little one. And my hair actually wasn't dead. It was just like kind of flat. I needed to refresh. And I also made my next appointment,
Starting point is 00:06:06 my next two appointments, cause I'm thinking I gotta plan it out. My hair's growing so quickly, you know, in this pregnant era, very grateful. So I will be having two appointments, God willing, God willing, God willing, before I give birth. And I made one of the appointments for like right before I give birth.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So I'll have like maybe like a fire blowout. And then I won't be able to get a haircut for quite some time. So I'm just like, I'm trying to take care of my, I'm trying to get my affairs in order. Yeah, that's good. So when you go on a trip, you know you need to do all your things.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yes, a haircut pre, I did a haircut pre, it was nice. It's so important. Yeah, plus your hair is growing very fast. So that's great. So two more days where you'll look the same. Yes, exactly. I wanna talk about hair and birth, if I may, for a minute. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Because I was talking to a lot of my friends who have given birth or are giving birth, and their hair is like a thing for them. They wanna have a blowout, and it's hard to time. So I saw my friend who just had a baby, when she was seriously nine months and a day pregnant, and she had gotten a blowout. I'm like, what are you getting your hair done for?
Starting point is 00:07:06 She's like, just in case I go into labor. I'm like, oh, I thought it was kind of crazy, but now I'm like, it's actually really smart. Like, first of all, just to like get your hair clean and like out of the way, it's washed. It's like professionally washed too. Like everybody's taking pictures. Like, while you're not going to look your best,
Starting point is 00:07:20 like to have shiny hair, slay. You have shiny hair naturally. I don't know. I don't clown on anyone who does it because that's beautiful. I don't yuck anyone's yums, but I'm someone who pictures blow out. It's everything to you. But I don't wanna be worried about preserving my blowout
Starting point is 00:07:37 when I'm in the throes of labor. I'm more of a slick back bun. You're sweating. And also when you do- A slick back is definitely a good call. When you do finally take a shower, like you want it to be a full shower, not just like, oh, gotta keep my blow out.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And I actually like don't, it doesn't resonate with me, the idea of being, and also like I don't even want makeup on like when I'm sweating and- No makeup on, I agree. When you do skin to skin with a fresh baby and your face has makeup on it and not the greatest setting spray in the world.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Like I wouldn't want to transfer anything other than like mom's skin. I wouldn't put on makeup. But the hair thing I actually like really get, especially maybe you can't relate because like I fucking hate my natural hair. Like I think- That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And I can't relate. You have beautiful natural hair. I feel like your hair is so calm when it's natural. Like mine is so frizzy. Oh my God. You have beautiful natural hair. I feel like your hair is so calm when it's natural. Like mine is so unwearable. Oh my God, you're seriously crazy. No, I like hate my natural hair. That is so crazy. Especially like these little pieces
Starting point is 00:08:32 that like curl out for my ears. It literally does not, no one gets better natural hair than you and Margot. Margot gets really good natural hair. So you guys have the same natural hair. No, no, my natural hair has changed. Like I know what you're thinking. You're thinking of the tourney of high school
Starting point is 00:08:45 when like I used to literally wake up, go to school. I didn't even brush my hair and it looked like I had to blow out. And people were like, oh my God, how'd you do that? I'm like, I literally woke up like this. And I didn't even take it. Like I took it for granted. No, I'd stop, but that shit's not like that anymore, Jackie.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Shit has turned dark. You don't even know. I'm just saying, like, if you wanna worry about your hair when you're giving birth, like by all means, I wouldn't. I think I might want to. I think I might want to take on that burden. But again.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, and sometimes it's nice to have the other things to focus on, you know? Cause it might distract from anything. Well, I don't know. I'm like, I'm about to enter my- I'm not gonna stop you. My third week of pelvic floor therapy. So I have a feeling like,
Starting point is 00:09:25 I feel like I might crush it, honestly. Like look at me, ready? Tell me, you're kegaling? Yes, but very specific kegals. And honestly, it's like, I have to think about it so hard. So you breathe in and relax, which I feel like would be the opposite, right? Do it with me.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Breathe in and like relax your badge, like totally unkeeg, okay? Unclench, ready? While you're breathing in. Exhale and kegel. Do it again. Exhale and kegel. That's part of my homework.
Starting point is 00:09:59 So I just like, my pelvic muscles at some point, like I'm gonna be able to snatch your ponytail with them. Okay? Great. Yeah. Great. You're great. Any big plans this weekend?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Well, I do have, but I can't really like share them on the show, you know why, but it requires me to like mostly be home. So you kind of just like put me on the spot. I did, I did. And you'll know like on Monday. Yeah, like not to give a cliffhanger, but yeah, yeah. I forgot about like something big that you're doing
Starting point is 00:10:32 in your personal life. So I'll, I'll be quiet. Yeah. What about you? Just so many fabulous events. Like I don't even know where to go. Like I am overwhelmed with options for like really fun things to do. And I'm feeling so good and, and not tired
Starting point is 00:10:48 that I just have endless hours to expend on all these fabulous events that I'm invited to. People really do forget about you when you're pregnant. Like it's kind of rude. And yes. And I just want to say. What have you been like not invited to that you should be? I just, I want us to say quickly, like in another apology to you, I feel like I just, I wanted to say quickly, like, and another apology to you.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I feel like I remember when you got pregnant, like me and Margaret would go do stuff and you were like, what about me? I'm like, well, you're pregnant. Obviously you're not coming. You're like, yeah, but like invite me. I was like, oh, okay, sure. Like, God, she's so fucking naggy.
Starting point is 00:11:17 No bitch, invite me. Literally invite me. It's just to be invited. I trust me. And I just want to be abundantly clear. Like I am not coming, but I want to be invited. I trust me. And I just want to be abundantly clear. Like I am not coming, but I want to be invited. Where are, have you not been invited to? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It just feels like I'm not being invited to things. I can't explain it. Like I have nothing to do, but I can't stress. Like I really don't want anything to do. Please don't invite me anywhere. And just want to say like, shout out to Taylor Strecker. Like we had dinner plans last night and I got my first round ligament pain
Starting point is 00:11:45 and it was actually really scary. Like I was walking in the street, I'm like something's wrong. And then I like immediately got so tired and nauseous and I was like, I can't, like 30 minutes before. She was like, it's totally fine. Like, Frenzy you can cancel on and like not feel bad about. It's just so fucking real. Like people who give you like a pit,
Starting point is 00:12:03 even if they don't give you a pit, like they say it's totally fine and like they mean it, you don't feel right about it. Like I didn't feel bad. Taylor Stre who give you like a pit, even if they don't give you a pit, like they say it's totally fine. And like they mean it, you don't feel right about it. Like I didn't feel bad. Taylor Stryker is just like such a real one. I was just, I felt so like not bad about it. Whenever you're making a new friend, you should like cancel on them pretty early
Starting point is 00:12:14 to see if that they're okay with that sort of thing. I love that. Because like we can't be investing in friendships where you don't feel like comfortable canceling. Yeah, it made me really appreciate cause I've canceled so many things in the last couple of months, like just not feeling it. And it really made me appreciate her friendship
Starting point is 00:12:30 and her as a person, like I didn't feel even like the slightest way about it, you know? Yeah. And she didn't make me feel bad at all. She was like, girl, I'm more tired than you. You know, she's on her podcast today. This fat bitch canceled on me. My friend, I'm not gonna name who,
Starting point is 00:12:42 canceled on me last minute. That's funny. Oh, I wanna talk about something I'm so upset about. Like a fun fact about me is I watch this show and you probably haven't heard of it. Nobody has. It's on HBO, it's Bridget Everett and it's called Somebody Somewhere.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I think I've spoken about it on the toast before, but like- I've seen her promoting it. Yeah, and it's such a weird show. It like takes place in Kansas. She plays this like, you know, girl with like nothing going on. She doesn't like have a lot of friends and the show starts when she meets this other guy from the town that they grew up in. They had went to high school together,
Starting point is 00:13:17 but they weren't friendly and they just like sort of spark up this late in life friendship and they're both sort of like loners. And as they become friends, like they enrich each other's lives so much, so much so that now by the third season, like they have this whole group of friends. And it's like all these like, you know, misfits and freaks from the town.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And me and Ben finished the third season last night. It's like, it's not like the best show I've ever seen, but it's got a lot of heart. And it makes us laugh. And I love Bridget Everett. And she is so me. Like she makes herself sing in almost every, her character is just somebody who can like sing amazing,
Starting point is 00:13:46 you know? And in the last episode, she sings the climb at like karaoke. Yeah. You're lying. I swear, I swear. Like it was so, and the thing is, one thing I don't like about the show is that she's always like, oh, Sam has to sing.
Starting point is 00:13:57 And Bridget Everett's like, okay. And she like sings the worst songs. I've actually never known a song that she sings, whether it's like she goes to church or whatever. It's like the worst fucking songs. So like, what is this bitch gonna sing in the season finale? All of a sudden she starts singing the Climb.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I'm like, oh my God, obsessed. Ben loves the show. Like it's just this random thing that we do. It was fucking canceled. But now three seasons is a good run. It is. And I just want to talk to like the three other people who watch the show.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Cause there's a lot of like discourse online. Was the show canceled by HBO or did it come to an end like on Bridget people who watched the show, cause there's a lot of like discourse online, was the show canceled by HBO? Or did it come to an end like on Bridget? Because by the time we watched the last episode, Bridget has this huge group of friends, her relationship with her sister is completely repaired, and she got a boyfriend. Like it was too much.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And I was so ready for season four where we're gonna watch her and the boyfriend. Yeah, no, but that's the story arc. Like it's a happily ever after. And like her and the guy, like that who, so the guy that she met in the first episode becomes like her best friend. They had like this sweet moment,
Starting point is 00:14:49 just like acknowledging how they've enriched each other's lives so much. So it really, it almost feels like she wrote it to be done. And the show wasn't like canceled out of the blue. Like it put a, I didn't have any questions. I would have loved to see like Bridget Everett and her man, but I was so upset and like justice for somebody somewhere, even though like it's good.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Leave them wanting more. Leave them wanting more. Leave them wanting more. Like normalize ending shows the way they were meant to end as opposed to having to be abruptly canceled. Speaking of, I saw a new thing on Netflix. Like Schitt's Creek. Right. I don't know if it's a movie or TV show
Starting point is 00:15:20 starring Kate Hudson and she's like a big time sports agent, like girl boss. It's written by Mindy Kaling and somebody plays her boyfriend. I forget who. New girl boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Schmidt. It looks so good. Like that to me, like I'm excited about
Starting point is 00:15:35 cause I feel like Mindy's latest project, the Sex Eyes of College Girls, which I still have to watch this season. I only watched the first episode. I feel like it's like cursed and it's like, I don't know, it's like- No, I don't feel that way. But I am, every time I start a new season of it, I'm like worried that it's going cursed and it's like, I don't know. It's like- No, I don't feel that way. But I am, every time I start a new season of it,
Starting point is 00:15:45 I'm like worried that it's going to be bad. So I'm like, I go in trepidatiously, but I will be, I love that show. But this is the one Layton has left. She's in the first episode and they like write her out. And then I think I haven't watched the second episode of the rest of the season. Do you know who's in it?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Oh man, I'm going to blow your mind. You're going to be so excited about this. Of sex lives? Mm-hmm. Who? You're going be so excited about this. Of sex lives? Mm-hmm. Who? You're gonna freak out. Kelly Clarkson? Honestly, close.
Starting point is 00:16:12 No, no, it's somebody who you love on the internet, but we happen to also know them personally from back in the day. Courtney. Average fashion blogger, Courtney. I knew she was on it. She was on a podcast talking about it. It was a rogue part where she just plays this obnoxious celebrity soror it. She and she was on a podcast talking about it. She got like what it was like a rogue part
Starting point is 00:16:25 where she just plays this like obnoxious celebrity sorority girl and she did such a good job. They liked her so much. They like wrote her into the rest of the season. Classic. The cream always rises. The cream always rises. When I saw her, I didn't know that she was on it yet. I literally was like, that's Courtney from camp.
Starting point is 00:16:38 We had to camp with her. I saw something on Instagram knowing that she was on it. So I've already processed this information and it's very exciting. Yeah. So that's on my content plate, but that she was on it. So I've already processed this information and it's very exciting. Yeah. So that's on my content plate, but Ben doesn't watch it. So we're like- You know what you should watch it on the content plate?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Shogun. Okay. Ben really wants to watch Shogun. Ben is obsessed almost to the point of like fetishes Asian culture. Like he just loves Asian food, Asian people. Like, so when we were watching the Golden Globes, he was like, what is Shogun? I'm like, I actually think he would like it. Like he just loves Asian food, Asian people. Like, so when we were watching the Golden Globes, he was like, what is Shogun? I'm like, I actually think he would like it.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Like he loves martial arts. Like he really respects the culture. So I was like, fine, sure, let's watch it. And we like watch a trailer on Hulu and it's so looks, Ben was so excited. It just looks like something I would not like. It's like a history period piece. And so we didn't watch it
Starting point is 00:17:23 cause I have final say these days. Okay. But I would maybe circle back. If you're looking for like something heftier, maybe you have to watch a bunch of crap to then crave heft. Classic me, that's where I'm at with my reading. Like I have started and not finished so many dumb fucking books. Because I'm just like, I want to read,
Starting point is 00:17:40 I want to palette cleanse, I want something stupid. I'm literally like reading stupidity and now I'm craving heft. So I started a new historical fiction book last night that has gotten like a lot of good reviews. Then like being in a phase where you just start shitty books and don't even finish them. And then I'm like, well, I just,
Starting point is 00:17:55 I'm 20% of the shitty book, I could finish it. And then I got a book in the can, but no, I'm gonna spend my time more intentionally. And so I started a book last night and it's like, it's so heavy. But that's what I wanted. Yes, intent. But that's what I wanted.
Starting point is 00:18:08 We're being intentional in 2025, okay? We are being intentional, aren't we? 100%. She's manifesting, she's going to spiritual events. I am. She's leading. Drinking water. She's leading with intent. She's taking turmeric and throwing it away.
Starting point is 00:18:27 How are the stories today? Good, we've got a lot of things to wrap up the week. And then also I watched Southern Charm last night, fifth and final story will lead into TV recap because there was a lot of information from Southern Charm last night, especially about like Craig and Paige. And it was just like kind of a crazy episode.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And I have a lot of thoughts now on the new cast members. It took me a few, but I'm getting a read on them. 100%. So without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know. And the fast five stories that you need to know are brought to you by eHarmony. So we have partnered with eHarmony,
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Starting point is 00:22:10 performing in a nearly empty arena. So photos have just gone viral of Camila Cabello's latest performance in a nearly empty venue in Atlanta, Georgia on Sunday. The photos have gone viral and ex, social media users are saying that shit was empty. They're labeling it as a flop They shared a screenshot over the weekend showing that just around 30% of the tickets had sold out to the State Farm Arena show
Starting point is 00:22:32 Oh, they spelled State Farm wrong. Hmm. Oh, that's crazy Another person asked why do some singers do this if you know, you can't sell arenas Why do them isn't it just extra costs for no reason and embarrassment? However, and then yes, so she played to like a nearly empty arena. Then unlikely man named Mod Sun came to her defense with some fire points. He said, 99% of artists would have canceled the show
Starting point is 00:22:59 and put out a mental health statement. She just gained my respect by still performing. That show meant the world to the people in the crowd that night. Empty shows are still shows, he says. You know what? I actually really agree with him. And to be clear, I wouldn't be caught dead.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Like if I like, I would, I don't know what the number is, but when I was on tour, you would get periodic statistics like almost every day of how many tickets were sold. And you would hope for like 80, 90, but you would still perform. If it's under of how many tickets were sold. And like, you know, you would hope for like 80, 90, but you would still perform. If it's under like 60 or 50, then you're like,
Starting point is 00:23:29 so 30% is really low. And yes, most people would have canceled this and everybody lies. Like, I'm really, I need to take time for my mental health. Like, sure, okay. The fact that she didn't is such a testament to A, like the love she has for her fans and B, like she don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:23:44 So many, this is such an image obsessed industry. Like the fact that she did perform, like I actually have enormous respect for her. I agree. I went on a journey with this story and I'm not gonna act like I was bigger than everyone else by being like, oh, yikes. And then like-
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah, no, my initial reaction was like, could not, would not, will never be something I would do. Like that's just like embarrassing. Especially when people are like, why would you book arenas if you know you can't sell arenas? That's like what happened with J.Lo. It happens sometimes, it does. Like celebrities overestimate their impact.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And so you don't really know how many people are gonna buy tickets to a tour. You can use analytics and your social media and previous tours, but there's no way to properly know. That's like when Olivia Rodrigo did her first tour after she like went viral, she did these, she did like Radio City types places, which are big, five, 6,000 people, but for her,
Starting point is 00:24:35 people are like, what the fuck is this? So it's almost impossible to perfectly guess unless you're like at the Taylor Swift level. So yeah, I can see Camila Cabello's team like thinking she could do arenas and maybe in certain parts of the country, she could. Like where her fans are most, but not at LIM. Yeah, no, but then like someone like JLo Cancels
Starting point is 00:24:53 gives like a bunch of excuses. And then there's always like weaved in like, oh, maybe it's just cause tickets didn't sell, but it's not fact. So it gives you like plausible deniability and you could just walk away. So at first I'm like, oh wow. And then I saw Mod Sun, I'm like, check yourself.
Starting point is 00:25:06 He's right. Not Mod Sun making us think. Literally they always do that. They cancel and then they make us feel bad for them canceling. Cause like there's something bigger going on that you don't know about. And like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Like I'm not so sorry. And you're just complaining cause like you had to pay for a sitter. Right. Right. And like you're the villain. And Mod Sun really swayed me. And now I'm with Mod and I have respect for Camila Cabello
Starting point is 00:25:27 getting out there, doing her thing. I completely really- To the people who showed up and not doing it for the people who didn't. Like so professional. And did I think that we would all sort of like be humbled by Mod Sun? No, and I think we just recently had a conversation
Starting point is 00:25:42 about Mod Sun on the show. And I don't think it was like the most flattering combo. We were sort of like, who is this person? And you know what? I don't even care. Cause this is a person who made a good point. This is a person who made a good point and put the industry on notice.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Yep. 100%. And I do now that I really think about it, like this is it's admirable behavior from one Camila Cabello. It's also worth mentioning that then people were saying this was like some sort of, not private event, but it was part of a- Corporate. Yeah, an event for like colleges.
Starting point is 00:26:12 So it might've not been like a general on sale to the public. However, then other people were saying, no, they've been advertising this like all over Atlanta for the last few weeks. Like this was just a concert. The event type is a little murky. Let's say that.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah, they are holding space for plausible deniability with the event type. Yeah, but she's like not even getting involved. Like, you know what? I don't think much about Camila Cabello these days. And let me tell you, there was a time where I actually thought of nothing but Camila Cabello. If you guys remember, Lila's turned to Fifth Harmony,
Starting point is 00:26:42 turned to those YouTube videos they used to post, turned to a band and then breaking up. Like there was a time where I thought about them a lot. Now I'm kind of just like, I think I'm like a little too old for her music. But now I'm thinking about her and I'm thinking positive things. Like this is a true professional,
Starting point is 00:26:58 somebody who really cares about her fans. And this is something, about sounds right, like no artist would do. And I like that. I just feel like it should be a lot easier to suss out whether or not this was a private corporate event where only a few tickets were sold to the public.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Why is that? Why is that? Confusion. Yeah, and it's a really good point. You know? So TBD, but anyways, respect to Camila Cabello. Agreed. Always a good moral of the story.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Respect to Camila Cabello. Some of us have been to Camila Cabello. Some of us have been respecting Camila Cabello like ever since she was so clearly like the best part of that band on X Factor. And honestly, I think sometimes Simon and the crew and his judges, like they put together a perfect band, right? One Direction.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Little Mix. Little Mix. Oh, Little Mix was a, oh, I wanted to talk about something really quick. Pop Culture Jeopardy. Yes, last night, quick. They were- Pop Culture Jeopardy? Yes, last night, you guys know I watched Pop Culture Jeopardy like when it first came out and honestly it was really bad. I couldn't even get past the second episode.
Starting point is 00:27:51 But I saw, I got tagged in this thing and I started DMing with this toaster who was on last night's episode. So she DMed me, she was like, we heard about the auditions on the toast and me and my two best friends, like they're like Canadian Jews. They wanted to submit, they put together and they're like,
Starting point is 00:28:08 we didn't know what to make our team. We almost made our team name girly swirly. Oh, cute. But we thought it was like a little like niche. Okay. And we did French toasters and then Colin, so I watched the episode last night, they did not win. In their defense, it was the least swirly episode ever.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Jackie, I knew none of the answers. And the people who were winning the whole time were these three older straight men. So it was like- They were out to get the swirly. Old sitcom questions. Like it was so not their fault. There was a dumbest question.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Frazier. Yeah, right. No, older, like 60s. Frazier. It was so not swirly, like justice for Shane and the girls. But in the middle of the episode, Colin goes over and like talks to these people about where they're from and like usually,
Starting point is 00:28:48 cause they all have like such weird team names. He's like, what is French? You guys just like love French toast. And they were like, well, we do, but we are French Canadian, they're from Quebec and we are like, Toasters is about like our favorite pop culture podcasts. And Colin was like, cool.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And it was sick, cool. It was sick. It was sick, okay? And Little Mix was a, thank you for reminding me. It was a- It was an answer? Yeah, yep. Oh my God, what was the question? What's the best pop group in the world to ever do it?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah, no, they just showed a picture of the four girls. I mean, like this group got together on X Factor UK, like name them. Oh, beautiful. The French choicers were proper properly educated. Did they get that one right? There was a team next to them. I don't remember who was like,
Starting point is 00:29:29 I don't know if they listened to the toast, but they were swirly. It was like two young girls and a gay guy. Like they were just like our age. Like they were, those two teams were competing for like the answers. And then the random fucking questions about old ass sitcoms and old Hollywood was going,
Starting point is 00:29:44 they split the vote, was going to the other team. They split the vote. So- Sounds like they were out to get this one at least, just saying. A thousand percent, a thousand percent. But, oh sorry, what I was saying about Little Mix, sometimes they put together like a really perfect band.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And even though Little Mix and One Direction, like both broke up, I would still consider them to be perfect bands. And even though, like actually not with Little Mix, but like with One Direction, there was like one person who was like a little bit more famous, like everybody, more people had Harry as their favorites. I do still feel like they were an equal band.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Fifth Harmony like really could never get their asses off the ground because they were so unequal. Like there were people in the band that never should have been there. And Camilla should really have not been, she was probably like on the show for sure, the most talented vocalist. And every time they would perform,
Starting point is 00:30:26 the feedback was like, Camilla, Slay, best of you girls get it together. Like there's that famous clip of Demi Lovato being like, I don't want to say, but like one of you is doing a lot better than the others. And Khloe Kardashian, Khloe Kardashian was the host of X Factor, which we don't even talk about enough.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Khloe Kardashian was like, say it Demi, say it. And they started fighting. Demi was like, no. And then she goes, Camilla. It was just like, it was like this awkward elephant in the room. And that's why like the band was destined to flop. Even when their YouTube videos would come out, they would do these things before they ever released their own music. And after X factor, they were keeping up with their fans on YouTube. And every time they did a drop, it was the biggest deal on the planet. Like I can't even tell you how I ran it to my computer.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And each YouTube video was like a different girl choosing a song. And so the one that she chose like was gonna be hers, right? And Camilla chose Lego house by Ed Sheeran, which like wasn't even a song that I knew. Jackie had so many more views than the other ones cause like she sang the whole time. Like it was just, it was unequal from the start.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah, but the cream always rises. Then they broke up and then she's the one with like a real flourishing solo career. Yeah. And the other ones who are good also have things going on and the ones who aren't good are just like seriously unwell. Yeah, but that was, and that's, and we can't even get into this like rabbit hole of Normani,
Starting point is 00:31:40 but like that's where it's like difficult with Normani cause she, when it comes to talent, I would say she was number two. Yeah. But she like can't get her music career. She's number two, right? Yeah, but that doesn't mean, it's not saying much. Like other girls don't do anything. I know, but she has the second most flourishing career
Starting point is 00:31:55 because like she's too abstractly about her career. Like- Well, we can, that's a separate conversation. That's what I'm saying. That's a separate conversation, but she is. Career flourishment is going in order of the talent that you saw on X Factor. And I just, I know there's like four other people
Starting point is 00:32:10 on the planet who like care as much about like the early days of Fifth Harmony. And like, could seriously, I could recite all their performances for you. And like, if you know about that, anything can happen performance on X Factor. Oh, I know. You know, right?
Starting point is 00:32:23 I know. I do know, I remember I know. I do. I remember I was there. And then Camilla gets up in her tutu and she's like, I know it's gonna be, I know, like, I know it's gonna be. I was so fucking jealous of Camilla Cabello when I was good.
Starting point is 00:32:38 But for me, that is a referendum on Ellie Goulding. Like to me, that's where I was like, justice for Ellie Goulding, more opportunities for Ellie Goulding, the songstress of's where I go with like justice for Ellie Goulding, more opportunities for Ellie Goulding, this songstress of our time. If it makes you feel any better, I know that you feel like Ellie Goulding is like completely overlooked and she is.
Starting point is 00:32:53 She's actually not in the UK, which is where she's from. I think she does amazingly. I'm sure she has so much money because like her songs are so commercially popular. They're just like oozing out money. But I just do feel like we all, myself included, sleep on her. Like when I'm in my car,
Starting point is 00:33:08 like wanting to put on a random artist that I know I'm gonna like every song, I don't think of her. And that's a shame on me. Agreed. You need to work, you need to do better. I need to work on that. I am not disagreeing with you.
Starting point is 00:33:20 You know what? I need to start a list of underrated artists I can play when I need an artist to put on shuffle. That's a long name for a title. I'm just gonna write artists. Yeah. Cause right now it's Rascal Flatts, Lady A, Gavin DeGraw, Kelly Clarkson. Those are my six.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I actually have some more. I have some more. Ellie Goulding. Who's next? One Republic. However, the problem with Ellie Goulding is I can't just listen to all of her songs on shuffle. Cause she does a lot of like random remixes
Starting point is 00:33:47 with random people. And like, no, that's not what I wanted. One Republic needs to be added to that list. Okay. Do you agree? I agree. That's like the elk of what you're looking for for the car. It's the elk for sure.
Starting point is 00:33:58 But that also would fall under a separate list of like albums I want to listen to. Perfect albums. But when I want to put on artist shuffle and I know, I know every song, it's a different sort of list. So keep going, anyone else? No, not right now. Okay, it will be a ever growing list.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Feel free to drop a rec in the comments. I love that. And Lady A, there you go. And then of course I always have my favorite artists like Lou Combs, blah, blah, blah, but I'm always listening to him. Taylor, I'm always listening. Like I don't need to be reminded.
Starting point is 00:34:31 They're actively releasing new music. I don't need to be reminded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Speaking of my faves, Kelly Clarkson reveals she just started her own record label and she's sharing why it's been a challenge. I mean, because being a woman in business
Starting point is 00:34:44 who's severely underappreciated by her country is difficult, yeah, for sure. So she revealed on Wednesday on her show that she had started her own label. The news came while she was speaking with her guest, Keke Palmer, of course, about Keke's own record label that she's had for six or seven years.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So an impressed Kelly then announced that she had taken a similar leap in the music industry. She said, I'm so much older than you and it's my first time in my career and I just now started my own label and I'm putting out my own stuff and I've had some good teams like to work with but there's nothing like being that 10 year old again and be excited and nobody saying oh you should do this and you should do that. She then noted that people don't know how hard it is. That's what Kiki said and then Kelly said girl I'm finding out I'm putting
Starting point is 00:35:23 together a music video and I'm like wait I forgot to do what? video. And I'm like, wait, I forgot to do what? She then added, I just now started it. I started writing and I was like, wait, how do I put this out now? And then I was like, well, I guess through me. Oh, that's interesting. So when I think of like someone who starts a label, I think of them starting a label
Starting point is 00:35:36 to like represent other artists. But I guess it's like a way of being independent while also having a label is like starting your own label. Yes, agree. But I think in order to start a label for other artists, it's like you have to be on it yourself. And you should work out all the kinks on yourself so that when you have a new talent, it's seamless.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Here's your music video. Here's your distribution. Here's your release. Here's your marketing. And so she's like being her own guinea pig. No, and I love that. Cause like Kelly is a media empire, right? She has all the different facets,
Starting point is 00:36:03 but I will say like her music is severely underrepresented. Like her new music, excuse me. Everybody's like, since you've begun, like you don't know chemistry, the deluxe album. Like, so I don't know if like now's the time for her to be, cause I think when you go on your own label, like Taylor Swift could release an album on the biggest label or on her own label.
Starting point is 00:36:21 She could go to the smallest worst label in the industry and it would still get the same amount of listenership. And I feel like Kelly really needs to be propped up by the machine because people aren't taking, like they're now like people are paying attention with like her covers and a new generation of people, but they're still not streaming her new music and they're wrong for that.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I feel, I agree with you on your overall conclusion. However, I think the route there is a little different because I think the big machine has failed her. She's been on all these- And she is the machine now. She's been with RCA, Atlantic Records, and they've been doing her albums and they're not getting where they need to go.
Starting point is 00:36:56 And I'm down for her to try something different. And the thing is all of her Kelly owned things like her show, her covers, they do well. So I think Kelly needs to be in charge of her destiny. But I do feel like Kelly's Roman Empire are the music labels. Like don't forget, you know, behind these hazel eyes during that time,
Starting point is 00:37:14 what was it, my December? Like that was a dark time. She was like beefing with her music label, putting out music she didn't want to do. So I feel like her breaking free from this, like the way the industry is when it comes to labels, like it's very important for Kelly self. So chemistry debuted at number six on the billboard 200
Starting point is 00:37:31 with 53,000 equivalent album units earned. Like, I'm sorry, 53,000 for America's sweetheart. And like for reference, like Taylor Swift's albums when they get released, they do about a million copies in the first week. Now, obviously she's like another planet, but like Kelly's not that far off. Like she's the biggest star.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Like she should be doing a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand copies. Like somebody, somebody is actively failing Kelly Clarkson. It's not us. I agree. No, no, no, no, it's not us. Somebody is actually failing her. So maybe, yeah, her switching it up.
Starting point is 00:37:57 But wait, who released chemistry? What label was she on? Do you know what I mean? She was on... Atlantic. Atlantic and they did meaning of life. Meaning of life got no love. Meaning of life got no love.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Metacritic gave it a 70 out of a hundred. What? The album, like on a score. Chemistry, excuse me, sorry. Okay. I just feel like that's low. Who's Metacritic in this world? They're actually like, they are somebody,
Starting point is 00:38:27 I'm just letting you know, but it's a good question. Have you heard of them before you just found that? Yes, of course. Is that like the Rotten Tomatoes from music? Yes, oh, you don't know Metacritic? I don't know Metacritic. Oh, oh, you know, Metacritic is like a, it's the Rotten Tomatoes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Tell me what else Metacritic likes. And I will say, I think Metacritic often gets it right. I think Rotten Tomatoes is seriously a, it's the Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah. Tell me what else Metacritic likes. And I will say, I think Metacritic often gets it right. I think Rotten Tomatoes is seriously like, I live on a different planet than the people who work at Rotten Tomatoes. I think Rotten Tomatoes audience score gets it right. Yeah. How about that? Okay, give me an example of an album
Starting point is 00:38:57 that you think is perfect and I'll tell you what Metacritic gave them. Native, One Republic. One Republic, yeah. Our fave. A perfect album. A perfect album. Let me go pull up some albums
Starting point is 00:39:08 so we can keep playing this game. No, by the way, it's fun. Okay, I don't know why I'm having a hard time. Native, not having talked to text on my iPad is really like I'm turning into a grandma. I can't do anything without talk to text. Native, I'm not a critic. I can't do anything without talk to text. Okay, needed Metacritic. I think you can set it up.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Damn. Metacritic gave Native by One Republic, which is seriously a perfect album. Yeah, you know every song, even if you've never listened to the album. You do. A 65. Who is Metacritic in this world?
Starting point is 00:39:42 User score, 8.2. So 82. What's like the best Taylor Swift album in your opinion? Like 1989? Yeah. Like let's see what they gave 1989. Right now that's what I would say. I mean my name is 1989.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Okay, by the way, by the way, okay, 1989 has a 76. So that's obviously a good score is what I'm saying. Okay, what's their top rated albums? They don't have a little thing like. Oh sure, sure, sure. Metacritic top rated. It's gonna be like Nirvana. You know, like any swirly edition.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I need swirly edition. Okay, yeah. 10 Freedom Summers. I don't know what that is. Let me see if I know. What else, what else? Jackie, I actually don't know any of this. The Beatles. Fiona Apple, Brian Wilson,
Starting point is 00:40:27 Loretta Lynn. Let me see until I find something I actually know. Oh Damn by Kendrick Lamar from 2017. No I'm not familiar. Okay by the way I'm so glad we're talking about this. Number 14 on the list of highest Metacritic rated with a 95 is Bratt. And I want to talk about Bratt. Who is Metacritic in this world, Claudia? I go back to my original point and I agree with my past self. Bratt, while it felt like,
Starting point is 00:40:59 cause I've been seeing a lot of, the Grammys are coming, right? So everybody's talking about album of the year. And while it really felt like Brad like took over, the numbers do not lie. Like Brad actually did not take over, like not even in the slightest. And I don't know,
Starting point is 00:41:14 like maybe it's because I'm so chronically online and like this definitely was an album for the chronically online. And it very much existed like in TikTok. And I don't know why I thought like maybe that happened everywhere. Yeah. It seriously like was not even remotely successful
Starting point is 00:41:29 compared to the other albums of the year. Yeah. Yeah. I tried to tell you this in a delicate way, but I'm glad that you've reached the conclusion on your own. Like. You know, I've been seeing it on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:41:43 People being like, it's giving industry plan. Very much so. Very much so. Let's do an example. Short and sweet. Mm-hmm. Which is also nominated for album of the year. And which would I think should win sales.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Let's say short and sweet sales. Why do they make it so hard to find these information? How many copies? It is now sold over a million, as of August, over a million units in the US only. Okay. It came out in August. Great, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So in its first month, it sold a million units, you're saying? And now what they say about Brat, which is older, and they're saying as of today, worldwide. See, that number I just gave you was the US. Was the US, and in August August when the month that came out. Right. A million copies in the month.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Brat 800,000. And that's with way more time and the globe. That's way higher than I expected actually. Yeah. Well, well, well, well, well. Well, who is Metacritic in this world? Right. So I'm glad we got to the bottom of that.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Shreem Kelly Clarkson. Are you ready for- Do your due diligence, do your part. Do your part, yeah. Be the change you wish to see. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Which actually is a great segue.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Number three, a great segue from our previous story which is at Kendrick Lamar, who has one of the top rated albums on Metacritic, has revealed who his special guest performer for the 2025 Super Bowl Half-Toying Show will be. Oh my God, I literally, first of all, forgot that he was a performer, Half-Toy. I just wanna make sure you know that I heard that.
Starting point is 00:43:22 They changed the name of the show, actually. Oh, that's good. The half-twenty show. That's nice. And I was just thinking, I realizing there's only one more weekend, like this weekend, there's two football games, and then it's Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I read this story and I was like, oh, okay, in a few months, like cool for the Super Bowl. And now I'm just realizing like this is for next weekend, the Super Bowl. Yeah. So that's exciting. I feel like nobody's talking about the fact that the Washington, I don't know what their name is anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Football club. Commanders. They're still in it. Yeah, and they're going against the Eagles. Right, so we might have a repeat. This weekend it's Commanders versus Eagles and the Bills versus Chiefs. The Haley's versus the Taylors.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I know, I just want to say that I would have loved and I know like divisional, don't get me started on the divisions, but it really would have been sick if the Super Bowl could have been Bills versus Chiefs. Like we could have had so much celebrity like moments. And I think of these four teams, as somebody who's like been paying attention to football,
Starting point is 00:44:16 like the two best teams out of these four are the Bills and the Chiefs. Like they should be playing each other. Seriously, who are the commanders in this world? It's so true. And I don't want to come for the Washington State Swerleys because like last year I came from the Detroit Swerleys and they got mad. But I'm just saying like, seriously in this narrative,
Starting point is 00:44:31 like who are you? And good for you, good for you for getting this far. Can I ask you a really quick question based on like what you just said? The Washington commanders are from Washington State, not DC? That would be really crazy if they were from DC. I think they're from the state.
Starting point is 00:44:48 No, no, Claudia. I think they're the DC Washington commanders. Don't ask me why I think that, but that's just always like something I've held true. In the Washington metropolitan area, what does that mean? Keep going. Oh, DC. Oh my God. You're right.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Wait, that is so crazy. And so does Washington state have a football team? No, the Seattle Seahawks do. So I guess that represents the entire Pacific Northwest. Yeah. But that does like, that does Portland, Oregon. Like that does that whole, that whole purple haired crew. For sure. But so Washington state does have a team
Starting point is 00:45:20 because Seattle is in Washington. Oh, right. It is. Yeah. That's such a good call. Thanks for bringing that up. And yeah, the commanders are out of DC. Like this is crazy to me because when I think of like all the teams, like in my area, like my region,
Starting point is 00:45:33 like I think of the Patriots, I think of- Boston's. Jets, Giants, Bills. That's the Patriots. The Boston's, yeah. And I just would never think- The Eagles. Yeah, I would never think of like DC. Like I think of all the places you could take a train to
Starting point is 00:45:46 in New York, that's like an hour, two hours, Philly, Boston, DC. You tell me there's a foot. And that's like so weird. DC is like not a state. No, it's not a state. It's a metropolitan. It is?
Starting point is 00:46:00 It's a. It's a capital. District of Columbia. Is a compact city is what Google says on the Potomac River. It's a district of Columbia. Well, that's true actually. It's also home to iconic museums. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:46:17 I know that the Washington commanders are gonna go through another name change. Have you heard about this? They're like, they're not loving. You're kidding. I've heard that they are like feeling something different. I just want to nominate the Ross Washington's. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Because they were the R skins, right? And then they, there was like a lot of pressure. So I think they just automatically were like, shit. Okay, Washington football club. Yeah, while we are in transition, like this will be. And that was just a bad name because like a football club is a soccer while we are in transition, like this will be- Right, and that was just a bad name because like a football club is a soccer team. Like everybody knows that.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Right. So now they're the commanders, which is just like an actual like bad choice. And I think that it often, the names really represent- The city. The culture of DC. So it should be like the Washington politicians. It should be like the Washington monuments.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Senators. Oh, I. Like the Washington monuments. Senators. Oh, I like that the monuments. Or the Washington Georges. Do you not like the senators? I actually do like the senators. I like it too. I like that too. I think there's actually-
Starting point is 00:47:19 There's actually a lot. We just laid out a lot of really good options and you guys went with commanders. The presidents. No, that doesn't like roll off the tongue. I think that's what the commanders was meant to be, like commander in chief. Actually, now that I think about it.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Oh, it's bad. Literally nobody calls the president the commander in chief. Like that's super crazy to say. Like it's- It could've been the chiefs. It could've. Oh my God. Imagine if it's the commanders versus the chiefs
Starting point is 00:47:41 in the Superbowl. It's the commanders and chiefs. That would be actually a good game. I am rooting for, well, now I can find solace if that's the duo that makes it. I feel like all these different combinations and permutations like do leave room for excitement. Like I would of course be excited.
Starting point is 00:47:56 The chiefs go to Superbowl, lure at the Superbowl. I would be excited if the Bills go to the Superbowl. One, like for the Bills fans, like they really do. They deserve it. And two for Hailey Seinfeld, like she deserves her moment. She's been like waiting in the wings. So I'm happy with either. And then the Eagles, I would be happy.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I don't want to, I actually don't want to like awaken the beast that is the Eagles. No, I was about to say something nice. Oh, I like, I love the Eagles. I happen to think it's not their time. So I would be happy if the Eagles played the Chiefs again. That would be like funny brotherly love. He doesn't play anymore, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:29 No, but he's so Eagles. And then Kylie could root for her team. Like it's cute. And it would literally be like battle of the podcasts. Then if the commanders play the Chiefs and we're commanders and chiefs like it. If the commanders play the Bills, I'll have to find an angle.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Watch, that's the one that's gonna be. So this commanders versus Eagles games, like I just, I can't see either of these teams winning. Do you know what I mean? I can't see the commanders winning. I know, but they're also just so new to me. Like I'm now, they felt so far. I literally thought they were in the other corner
Starting point is 00:48:56 of the country and they're literally right here. They're right in your backyard. You're actually like a commander's fan. Commander's fan, yeah. It's also commanders doesn't roll off the tongue. Go commanders. Commander, cause it's three syllables't roll off the tongue, like go commanders. Commanders, because it's three syllables. You have to be like, go manders.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I just, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. Manders. Anyways, SZA is joining Kendrick Lamar for the Halftime Show in like a big way because it's being announced prior to. They're also going on tour together. So this is good promotion for their tour.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And I do feel like, cause I was just saying, I feel like the half time show wasn't really like for the girlies before. And now I feel like with SZA, like they're bringing us in. Yeah. I feel like, I feel like the NFL is like always placating to like their toxic male fans. And so like with all these new girlies watching football
Starting point is 00:49:41 this year because of Taylor and like the last two years, like this was really an opportunity for them to like give us something. And while Kendrick Lamar is a fabulous performer, he's not for the girls. No, and no girls like Kendrick Lamar, not saying girls don't like Kendrick Lamar, girls like boys and boys like girls,
Starting point is 00:49:56 but it's not like that wasn't a choice for the girlies. Right, and like, I think that had they given us like Carrie Underwood or something like really swirly, they would have, or God forbid, Kelly Clarkson getting the credit that she deserves if they're pink, like if they had given us someone, the toxic fans would have been like, Oh, girls ruining the football. Like, so I think that this is their way of like placating to both SZA and Kendrick Lamar do have two songs
Starting point is 00:50:23 together. So I'm sure that's how they'll like transition. So for someone like me who doesn't like to listen to Kendrick Lamar, but like I fuck with SZA. I feel like I'll know more songs now. Yeah, me too. And I'm hoping- This is giving like JLo and Shakira being built together, even though like it's Kendrick's show.
Starting point is 00:50:42 From the jump, JLo and Shakira were built together. This is like Kendrick show. I'm bringing out SZA and it's going to be more than in just like a flash appearance sort of way because they're promoting it beforehand. So I think, I think that's exciting. And I think that Kelly should actually with her new label like she just needs to be on her vision board.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yeah. Literally like she is the queen of the network that hosts the Superbowl. Like it's absurd. It's absurd. She should also, I think, team up with someone who would cover the areas. No, I think a man who she likes working with
Starting point is 00:51:16 who would cover the areas that are like- You mean demographic wise? Blind spots for Kelly's audience, yeah. Okay, but the thing is like, if they actually did like a half Kelly Clarkson, half Pink one, between the two of them, so many like mainstream songs that like, even like this most stubborn guy would know.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And I think, I think they actually both make up for, like Kelly's music is very soulful. I wouldn't say it's like pussy poppin'. Pink is like rock. So it's really like genre wise. I think they would cover a lot of bases too. They're the same genre. And I think Pink could do it on her own.
Starting point is 00:51:47 They both could. I don't know. Nobody's a big, I just don't know if Kelly covers enough. No, but I think we're not, because when we think of Kelly, we think of our faves, but you have to think of like, oh gee, Kelly, how many songs are performed in a Superbowl? Maybe eight?
Starting point is 00:52:04 15? Oh, okay. I was gonna say 10 first, but I felt high. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I think it's like, maybe eight. I was gonna say 10 first, but I felt high. Well, doesn't kill you makes you stronger. That's not the Super Bowl performance I want. No, I know, but that's what it is with the Super Bowl. Like people play their worst songs. Since you've been gone, behind these hazel eyes, because of you.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Miss Independent. Miss Independent, break away. She would have to do, what's her American Idol song? Break away. No, no, no, like lifetime. Some people wait a lifetime. Oh, a moment like this. A moment like this, seven, okay, let me look.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And then like the ones that we know, like Piece by Piece, you think she could do? She could not sing Piece by Piece at the Super Bowl halftime show. But she could- Oh, Broken and Beautiful is really big. Yeah. Heartbeat song, you think that's big?
Starting point is 00:52:48 Or is it just big for us? I do, I do. I dare you to love. Oh, she would 100% do that one. So what am I up to now? I'm definitely- 10, nine? Mist in the widow, well yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Oh my gosh. Oh, catch my breath. Claudia, like seriously, this isn't fair to me. Jackie, wait, this is how it would start. People like us. Claudia, I was just about to start with people like us. Just wait, and then it's like. No, I don't think it would be like that.
Starting point is 00:53:16 People like us. T, t, t, t, t. People like us, we gotta stick together. Keep your head up, nothing lasts forever. Seriously, if you ever wanna go for a run, but like physically feel unable, listen to that song. It starts like this, Kelly Clarkson in front of an American flag.
Starting point is 00:53:36 No music, acapella. Love. Straight raw dog. People like us, we gotta stick together. Keep a message of unity. Keep your head up, nothing lasts forever. Boom. Then into something else, maybe. Not only was yours incredibly similar to mine,
Starting point is 00:53:58 so you actually just stole it. No, you turned yours into a remix. I'm saying no. It's more of an anthem. It wasn't a remix. Oh, I'm sorry, no, it wasn't a remix. You were doing the bed cover. I'm saying no. It's more of an anthem. It wasn't a remix. Oh, I'm sorry. No, it wasn't a remix. You were like doing the bedding cover.
Starting point is 00:54:06 No, no, no, no. Oh my God. No, no, no. I was saying people like us. Silence. She's teasing. We gotta stick together. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:20 Like building a pipe. I understand. I think she could do it. And of course, pink raise your glass. So what? I can't even have this conversation because I want to try and remain positive like for the half time show that we are getting.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Cause this one is what we're not getting. I know, I know. Cause we're going to walk into a disappointed. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Number four. No. Is it the next story that's brought to you
Starting point is 00:54:39 by HGTV's fabulous new show that was actually made for Turti Luashre, the flip-off? Yes. Okay, so I talked about this a couple of days ago, but coming up, and I feel like it's what everybody in pop culture is talking about, HGTV had the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever. And let me tell you, they went and did that.
Starting point is 00:54:58 So they have a new show called the Flip-Off, which is a competition style series, where they're facing off and flipping houses, but there's so much subtext here because starring in the show are three people who absolutely mean the world to me and who are my personal Roman empires. It's Christina Hack, Tarik El Moussa, and Heather Rae El Moussa.
Starting point is 00:55:19 So the goal of the show is like a competition style show where they're each gonna flip a house and then see who can win. So it's Tarek and Heather versus Christina. Her man like is a part of it. It gets kind of complicated because there's more drama over there. But they're basically flipping houses
Starting point is 00:55:33 and see who can make like the biggest return on their investment for like, you know, flipping it for the least amount of money and selling it for the most amount of money. So it's like that classic HGTV shtick where it's like we're seeing people build pretty houses and like, you know, things we would want to do to our house but never would do.
Starting point is 00:55:46 But then it's also like a kind of juicy reality show cause there's like so much between these three. It's layered. So it's really, it's HGTV at its best with that epic competition series, stunning transformations, competitive banter. But actually the show gets really raw. I saw the first episode, it premieres next week.
Starting point is 00:56:02 And let me tell you, I won't spoil it, but like it's really crazy. And I think that we talk it premieres next week. And let me tell you, I won't spoil it, but like it's really crazy. And I think that we talk about these three, like in the context of pop culture so much, and it seems like it's so dramatic. And then like seeing behind the curtain, like it's actually more dramatic than you would think. Right, and also they actually are very much
Starting point is 00:56:17 in each other's lives. Like they are interfacing every single day. And it's like, what did those interactions actually look like? Well, now there's a show and we're gonna find out. And the show also chronicles like Christina, who we all know is recently divorced, like the end of her marriage
Starting point is 00:56:28 and like her talking to Tariq about that. Like it's actually really deep. And then the show is just like, you know, fun, swirly, HGTV, they have guest judges, celebrity friends jumping in with their results. It's really fun. The drama is there. And I also love that Heather is a part of it
Starting point is 00:56:43 because I think we forget, because I know her that's like a reality star, but she is like a OG. She comes from a real estate background. She comes from a real estate background. Like they kind of nailed this. And this is something I feel like we would have said on the show, like HGTV should give these to show.
Starting point is 00:56:55 And like it would have been one of our free ideas that nobody listens to, but this is such a good idea. They took the initiative. They're giving us everything that they want. And they're also like bringing the three of them together. And it looks from the initiative, they're giving us everything that they want and they're also like bringing the three of them together and it looks from the outside, like it's a pargy little blended family. Well, there's like a lot of speculation
Starting point is 00:57:12 about what goes on with these, this crew, because on social media, like they're actually always together. So this is the first time I think viewers are gonna get like a real inside look, people who are obsessed with the El Moussa clan, which obviously- Obviously we would count ourselves among them. Also it's the blended sequel that we've been asking for.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Correct. So it's just really brilliant. It's really fun. I saw the first episode and I won't spoil who won the flip-off, but it's really fabulous. And Christine and Heather both have like really different styles for like houses too.
Starting point is 00:57:41 So if you're just like into home decor, it's really fun. So the flip-off premieres January 29th and it's on Wednesdays at eight, seven central on HGTV. You don't want to miss it. It's actually like the most toast coated show on the planet. Seriously. It's like, if we had had a network and we always were like, what would our first show be?
Starting point is 00:58:00 We would have come up with this idea after. 100% like there couldn't be a better show for us and our interests and there also couldn't be a better show for us and our interests. And there also couldn't be a better podcast for them to be advertising on. It's so, no, whoever, whoever idea it was like to make the show and then promote it here, obviously listens to the show.
Starting point is 00:58:12 It has to go on the Toasty Lines list. Yes, by the way, this goes on the Toasty Lines list. It's brilliant marketing. Of excellence in advertising. The flip off X the toast. flip-off X the toast. The flip-off X the toast. You know how I can search it by Lindsay Hubbard. Toasty can lion awards for brand partnerships.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah, I remember the list. It's Lindsay Hubbard and the dress company, right? For her wedding dress. Kleinfelds again. And then it's the guy from Smart House partnering up with like a ring Doorbell type of company. Smart House. Yeah, they have like housewares
Starting point is 00:58:51 that like make your house smart. Yeah. Genius. Genius, okay, well our next story, some other big collaboration news. Sutton Foster, Ben Platt, Rachel Zegler, and more are joining Trisha Paytas' Broadway show. Yes, that is a real headline. Trisha Paytas is taking the stage on February 3rd
Starting point is 00:59:09 for Trisha Paytas' Big Broadway Dream, a one night only musical theater extravaganza. She'll be joined by several high profile special guests from the Broadway world, including Sutton Foster, TBD on Hugh Jackman, but he'll probably be in the audience supporting his gal, Ben Platt, Rachel Zegler, and Joy Woods. It's called Trisha Paytas' big Broadway dream.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Let's make a meme come true. No, this is so funny in so many ways, but, and not while it's like impressive, the only real shocking part of this is Sutton Foster, because like Ben Platt, Rachel Zegler, these are like chronically online people who probably like know Trisha Paytas. To see the evolution of Trisha Paytas,
Starting point is 00:59:48 like as somebody who was so thoroughly canceled, not only to rise up from the ashes, but like the levels that she's reached in the last month on SNL Broadway, Sutton Foster, like you absolutely love to see it for a creator, for a woman in the canceled sphere. Like it's really, it's beautiful. I don't understand Sutton Foster being here.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And while I love it because she is currently like, she is the- The darling of Broadway. It's great for Trisha. It's great for Sutton. I think Sutton probably lacks like that sort of- Virality. Yeah, so like I get it,
Starting point is 01:00:21 but I could see like Trisha Paytas like having these other people's phone numbers and being like, hey, will you come to the show? I don't know how she got connected to Sutton Foster. Right, I do wonder like what the content of the show is gonna be. It's like one night only. So what would you do for like just one night?
Starting point is 01:00:36 And I also wonder if this makes her Tony eligible. Give Trisha Paytas the Tony. I agree. What if Trisha Paytas is the next EGOT? I could see it. I just want to say, I could see it. Like that's not the craziest thing I've ever heard. She just went on tour, so a little tour.
Starting point is 01:00:53 So I have to imagine that this show is like her New York stop. You think? No, I think I, I mean, maybe you're right, but just the vibe I got is that it's like her dream to be on Broadway and this will be like a special Broadway show. Yeah, I'm sure it'll be special, but I think the core of're right, but just the vibe I got, it's like her dream to be on Broadway and this will be like a special Broadway show. Yeah, I'm sure it'll be special,
Starting point is 01:01:07 but I think the core of the show, which she, it was like, it wasn't like, it was a rehearsed choreograph. She had dancers and outfits. It's like a musical about her journey on the internet. It was very funny. Oh, beautiful. I think that it's gonna be that. Oh yeah, that makes complete sense.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I didn't realize that's what she was doing on tour. So now she'll do it on Broadway. It's just like if we did a Gizmo, like on Broadway, then we're on Broadway. Of course, no. And when you like book a theater in New York, if you're like a performer who does live podcasting or stand up, like one of the theaters that is an option
Starting point is 01:01:34 for you to perform at, it's like a Broadway theater. And then you make it like a whole thing, like, yeah, we're on Broadway. Yeah, okay. I also, I actually, now that I think about it, I do kind of understand Sutton Foster being here. Sutton Foster is having like a little bit of a moment because Younger was just added to Netflix.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And I think that while that show obviously meant a lot to us at the time it was on Lifetime network. It was like this attempt by Lifetime to like renew. And while the show was successful, I don't think this like big Lifetime campaign was. So people don't actually really know it. And I think that it being on Netflix, and it's in the top, I see it now when I'm scrolling,
Starting point is 01:02:07 I think she's being introduced to a whole new audience of people, probably who overlap with Trisha Paytas' fans. So I actually think this might be having related to that. Interesting. Well, I'm happy for everyone to be watching Younger. I'll be so curious what the youngsters think of Charles and Josh and which team they're on.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Well, even like the toasters who like, I would assume if you listen to the toast, you know younger, I saw people posting in the Facebook group being like, oh my God, Jackie and Claudia keep talking about Sam Foster, I have no idea who that is, but I just started watching younger and like that's who's dating Hugh Jackman.
Starting point is 01:02:36 That's who's dating Hugh Jackman. And by the way, Hugh Jackman is Charles. Yeah. Hugh Jackman is Charles. Yeah. And yeah, I'm looking forward to what like the younger audience thinks of because younger and Charles and Josh
Starting point is 01:02:49 is like the younger version of Big and Aiden from Sex and the City. Oh, but ooh. Yes. It is. Oh, it 100% is. I think Big and Aiden are more similar than Charles and Josh. Like I think- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I think like really there are two types of people, like team Josh people and team Charles people, like you are so different. But the case could be made, cause I'm like, I guess I'm team big, but like big didn't like her. So like. By the way, I'm team neither.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Like seriously, no, actually, I don't think either of them were, I don't think Carrie was good enough for either. Like I don't think Carrie was good enough for Aiden, but like. No, she definitely wasn't. Yeah, I don't think they would have made each other happy. And also, this is not about watch what happens next
Starting point is 01:03:29 in five years. What's what? In five years, and just like that. I like watch what happens next. Me too. Because I don't know what Harry and Aiden had together, but the show that we watched, Sex and the City, she could not have given Aiden the life that he wanted.
Starting point is 01:03:44 No, if she had truly kept kept him and she could have, she would have ruined his life. Yeah. The best thing Carrie ever did for Aiden was cheat on him because it gave him really no choice. Even when they got back together afterwards, like you never really, he never got over it. So it was the best thing because he was forced to move on
Starting point is 01:04:01 and he went on and had three beautiful children with that lady named Cathy. Like it was good. Yeah. And big like, yeah, he didn't like her and he was like and had three beautiful children with that lady named Kathy. Like it was good. Yeah. And big like, yeah, he didn't like her and he was like this miserable wench, but like so was she. That's what she wanted.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah, it's so true. He wanted so bad, good. You got it. You got it. With Charles and Josh, like they were so different. It's true. And they both like love Liza. They both love Liza.
Starting point is 01:04:20 So she's not like choosing a guy who's bad for her. They're both good for her and they both love her. But it's just like, what does your dream life look like? And I think that it really just speaks to the type of person you are. If you like, cause I, and I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't seen the show, so I won't. But like I was like, I'm a Charles girl.
Starting point is 01:04:38 And that's because I'm in love with Peter Herman who plays Charles. Cause he's married to like the queen of America, Mariska Hargitay. But listen, different strokes. Seriously, if Josh ever came up to me in a bar, I'd be like, get the fuck away from me. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:52 No, but for so many people, Josh is a dream man. Yeah, I know. And they're not crazy people or anything. I think it marks a cultural, I think it marks a cultural and a real generational difference, because like- Within our own generation, there is divide. But also like the heartthrob of Sex and the City
Starting point is 01:05:10 like was big because like at the time that's what an attractive man looked like. That's what a man like a bachelor. But same for Aiden. Same for Aiden, like he's a very- So that's why he's just not totally comparable. Anyways- No, but he was just like a little bit more rugged, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:25 Watch the show, drop a comment, team Charles or team Josh will judge accordingly. Yeah. Or if they can find- Oh, and by the way, I judge, like when I was in high school. You know, one of my best friends is team Josh and like, and now I understand her, like more as a person. Who?
Starting point is 01:05:40 Rebecca is team Josh. I actually get to that. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause he, I mean, also like we were talking about him, like he's like a cretin, he's so handsome. Rebecca is team Josh. I actually can do that. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause he, I mean, also like we were talking about him. Like he's like a cretin. He's so handsome. So handsome.
Starting point is 01:05:50 It's just like he's younger than like it's just- He's just so Charles. He's so Charles. No, the thing is, is like when I was in high school, I was watching the Real Housewives of New York and when Bethany and Jill broke up, like that was the, one of the biggest things that ever happened to me.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And I took it so personal. I'll never remember, I'll never forget forget one of my friends was team Bethany. And I was so staunchly team Jill. I actually started to look at her differently. I couldn't conceive how she disagreed with me. And that's really how I feel about Charles versus Josh. It's so obvious to me that Charles is the one, but people really die for Josh.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And more so, I think there were some some people who were like team Aiden, but like everybody was team big. I think with Josh, it's like actually 50-50. Yeah. Aiden was really like an interloper. It was like the same with Edward and Jacob. Yeah, he's just an interloper and like an already written love story.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Like this is just like- Yeah, get out of here, scram. Totally different. But with Bethany and Jill, I know I've gone back and forth on it so many times over the years, you need like re-broad stuff, you see it differently. So I actually don't remember whose side I was on at the time.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I feel like I was on Bethany's side because I remember watching the scene of like Jill in Luann's apartment and like Luann is like shielding Jill from like scary big- Ramona, it was Ramona's apartment, yes. Scary big Bethany. And I'm like, and I just remember feeling like they're being wrong.
Starting point is 01:07:04 So when I was in high school, I was team Jill, like seriously, you could not pry Jill from my cold dead hands. During COVID, I rewatched Real Hostess of New York. And while I left with a renewed appreciation for Jill's hour and probably one of the best housewives to ever do it, rewatching that argument, she was wrong. She had a little bit of a leg to stand on
Starting point is 01:07:22 and she took it so far that she ended up being wrong. Yeah, I agree with that. Like she was the wronged party for like a second and she like loved being the victim. So she destroyed Bethany because of it and she took it way too far. Yeah, agreed. Our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Southern Charm was on last night and Craig Conover says that he would have proposed to Paige prior to the breakup. He said, if it was up to me, like I would propose to her but that she changed her mind a lot. So in a conversation with Craig last night, we're getting like, with Craig and Shep, we're getting more insight into Paige
Starting point is 01:07:51 and Craig's relationship. And he was sharing how like, if it was up to him, he would propose to her right now, he's ready to have kids. But he was like, in the grand scheme of things, if I need to wait a few years to have kids with her, like that's fine. But then he's like, but what if it winds up being 10 years? Like right now he's like, I would be okay with three or four years for like the dream woman. Yeah. But then it's like, but what if she changes up being 10 years? Like right now he's like, I would be okay
Starting point is 01:08:05 with three or four years for like the dream woman. Yeah. But then it's like, but what if she changes her mind? Like what if it's 10 years? Cause he was saying like, you know, sometimes she's like, let's get married and move to a farm. And then the next day she's like, Oh, I had a great day in New York. Like I love it here. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:08:16 And then the next day she's like, I'm moving to Charleston. And no, something about New York, like one day you're ready to give it all up. Like you are just going to a farm and the next day you kind of have like an amazing day. You're like, I can never leave. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:30 So he is sharing that she like changed her mind a lot. And I think like their future, what their future looked like was never like set in stone. And it's like, I feel like this whole time we've been like waiting for them to like get to what the future looks like, which we all sort of like knew what that would be like for them, but the fact that they couldn't align on it is really what ended things for them to like get to what the future looks like, which we all sort of like knew what that would be like for them, but the fact that they couldn't align on it is really what ended things for them.
Starting point is 01:08:48 But then also like that she ultimately ended it. Cause when you hear this, it's like, okay, well then Craig got tired of waiting, right? That's what you think. But knowing that she ended it, he would have kept waiting. I think that she finally figured out what her future looks like and it didn't involve him.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I agree. Sad. Which is so sad and that's what we were saying. If that's the case, that's the saddest way that this could have ended. The fact that it wasn't about timing, it was just about the fact that actually this is not- The life I want and not the person I want
Starting point is 01:09:21 no matter how much I do like you. And that's really devastating as a stand of these two, like that based on just what I'm seeing on social media and in the show, like that, I think that's what happened. Yeah, I think so too. But anyways, the episode last night was really good. JT is just seriously being a crazy person. So Taylor has a new boyfriend and I can't,
Starting point is 01:09:43 Taylor's really, and I have a hard time getting a read out of a lot of people on the show because they're always cycling them in and out and like I don't, Taylor's really, and I have a hard time getting a readout of a lot of people on the show because they're always cycling them in and out and I don't have time to get to know them. And Taylor, I really can't get a read on because she seems so nice and genuine, but then she was kissing Austin,
Starting point is 01:09:54 lying to her best friend, to her face over and over again. I'm like, what kind of nice and genuine? But in a genuine type of way. No, in such a genuine way. I seriously feel so bad for her. And I think she's just having a hard time on the show. So she has this new boyfriend Gaston and yes, his name is Gaston.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Gaston. And so we just have to like talk about Gaston in our miss like that's his name. That's hard. And Gaston has like history with a girl who just came on the show, Sally, who I was having a hard time getting read on Sally. And then I saw that she was on The Bachelor
Starting point is 01:10:24 and I saw her clip on The Bachelor and I had to watch it because I was, I've been having a hard time getting a read on Sally. And then I saw that she was on The Bachelor and I saw her clip on The Bachelor. And I had to watch it because I was, I've been having a hard time. She was on Clayton's season. She comes on the show before even the first night of limos or anything. She is having a hard time because this was the day she was supposed to get married.
Starting point is 01:10:39 She was engaged in her hometown. And I think her fiance like cheated on her or something. So called off the wedding and went on the bachelor. And the day of the first ceremony is the day she was supposed to get married. So she goes to Clayton's room before limos or anything and is like, I'm having a hard time and I wanted to meet you to see like,
Starting point is 01:11:02 if I should be here, cause I'm having a hard time and- Did she leave? Wait, so they're talking and she's a very beautiful girl and so like of course he's like, no, stay, I like you. And he's like, so much so, I wanna give you the first rose. Like please, I want you here. Like please be here.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Nothing like a participation award. Like please, no, not even that. Like that's a big gesture. It's supposed to just be like, be here, stay, it'll be good. Like here's a rose you're going into next week. Like I like you in this five minutes that you've been complaining to me.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Like I do really like him. And she thinks that she has to leave the room and think about it. And she declines the rose and she leaves. Like honestly, I love that. No, but like what, what were you hoping for? And she said like, I feel this between you and I, but like, I just can't be here.
Starting point is 01:11:44 So like, what was your express purpose when you went to meet Clayton to see if like you would like him? You just said that you would like him. So it just like- Maybe she didn't like him. Maybe she didn't like him and she didn't want me to be- Maybe, but it just like made me feel like
Starting point is 01:11:55 what's this person's like desire? End game. And now she's on Southern charm. And even in the few conversations that she had, like she was spilling all this tea to Madison and Paige a few weeks ago. And in every way, like she was spilling all this tea to Madison and Paige a few weeks ago. And in every way, like she was just saying, Gastone called me and they're like,
Starting point is 01:12:09 oh, cause she has history with Gastone. And they're like, well, what did he say? And she's like, he said to keep my name out of his mouth. And they're like, what do you mean? Like they're pulling everything out of her. And I really just feel like she's trying to like make so many moments. She keeps on, she keeps saying,
Starting point is 01:12:23 I have Gastone's name in my mouth. I have Gastone's name in my mouth. I have Gaston's name in my mouth. There's other ways to say that. Like, it's just, like stop talking about- It's a little sexual. Yeah. Stop talking about Gaston. So I'm just like trying to like suss out.
Starting point is 01:12:34 I feel like she also just is like very much doing the show thing and that kind of like is irksome to me. Well, so you saying that she was on The Bachelor gives me like a little bit of like red flag thirsty reality, but then her leaving like kind of negates that. No, I know. And if I, I think someone that she was on The Bachelor gives me like a little bit of like red flag, thirsty reality show, but then her leaving like kind of negates that. No, I know. And if I, I think someone who's been on The Bachelor
Starting point is 01:12:48 who then lives in Charleston as like a girlie about town and is like in the mix, is perfect to be on the show. Like they're ready for reality TV. So I'm not gonna like hold that against her. It's just like something that I've got to keep in mind. And then our other new girl, Molly, who was just such a darling.
Starting point is 01:13:02 And I'm- I know, I remember her. And I saw that clip of Whitney telling her to stop eating the cupcake. Right. And I'm- I know, I remember her. And I saw that clip of Whitney telling her to stop eating the cupcake. Right, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but like she's in her confession, has been saying really sweet things about Shep, like how Shep would be a dream man.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Like he's very educated and he's very sweet. And like she would love to end up with a guy like Shep. And right now Shep is dating a girl in the Bahamas who I think this season, and all season he's talking about how he's fallen so fast for her. He could see himself living in the Bahamas, just giving it all, and all season he's talking about how he's fallen so fast for her. He could see himself living in the Bahamas just giving it all up like Jimmy Buffett on the beach.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Like he's obsessed with this girl. And I think from the second half of the season, like things turn really south. I think she's like been using him to get on the show. Like I think it gets like, I think they take a group trip to the Bahamas, like to see her. And I think it all goes south.
Starting point is 01:13:39 So like, I know Heartbreak is waiting for Shep. And then in his confessionals, like he's saying really sweet stuff about Molly because she's a trained tuba player. She plays in the Charleston concert band. They all went to her concert on last night's app. And she's a former model. She was on America's Next Top Model, which is so crazy.
Starting point is 01:13:54 And she was doing her tuba concert. They all came out to support. It was so sweet. And like, nobody does wholesome hobbies like that anymore. And I'm like, this storyline of Molly and her tuba and how she fell back into tuba, like after modeling didn't work out because she has the thyroid issue,
Starting point is 01:14:08 so she's gained weight and she's like also feeling self-conscious, but she's also so confident and she's got her tuba and like Shep loves a tuba and Shep really respect someone who would like appreciate a woman who's like classic. He's like a well-educated. So these two, I'm telling you, this is how the story ends.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Shep and Molly, like I ship so hard. I think they'll also see what each other is saying about them on the show. Cause like it's really starting in an earnest way. And I think that she would actually be a really great woman for him, especially now that he was like ready to settle down with Sierra. So he might be like looking for that again.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Cause I feel like with Taylor, he just never wanted to settle down, even though Taylor was like a totally lovely girlfriend to him. Yeah. So it's all sort of a mess. And I just feel like Taylor, he just never wanted to settle down, even though Taylor was like a totally lovely girlfriend to him. Yeah. So it's all sort of a mess. And I just feel like Taylor, like, so anyways, Gaston like doesn't come on the show.
Starting point is 01:14:51 She doesn't want to hear anything that Gaston did in his past, like how Sally had an affair with him and that's how their relationship started, whatever. And like, I'm with Taylor. I think she should leave the show. I just think the show is bad for her. When she came on the show, like she had a serious job. And she was like a plus one.
Starting point is 01:15:07 So it wasn't really about her. It was like, she was Shep's girlfriend. And like, she's just going through it and the show is not good for her. And now everyone has decided like, we're gonna go out in on Taylor's relationship. And it's the one thing in her life making her happy. Her brother passed away a year ago.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Just like, go be with your boyfriend, whether it works out or not. Like he makes you happy at the moment. Like, please go. And then they can turn on each other. Now they just all talk about Taylor when she's not there. Yeah, that's, yeah. So, it stays being the greatest show on earth.
Starting point is 01:15:37 The greatest show on earth is actually the toast and something amazing that we do here every Friday is Queenie and Weenie of the Week, where Jackie and I give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week where Jackie and I give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week to two different people, institutions, people, places, things that acted like a Weenie this week or a Queenie this week.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Now it's not that serious. It is a seven day title. Although my Weenie this week is actually like bordering on like, I don't wanna say the title of Weenie of the Week might be like too generous, but we'll get there. I understand. Queenie first? Of course, we always start with the good news.
Starting point is 01:16:08 My Queenie of the Week is, Sex Change Operation. Like the way that song has actually brought me so much joy and like all the clips, like the amount of content I've consumed, like engaging with it. I actually now, I kind of like the song and I understand why it's nominated for an Oscar.
Starting point is 01:16:24 And I really like it. Like I just was watching this hilarious video of Katya and Trixie like listening to it for the first time. Like seeing people have that experience. Like, exchange operation. And I love that they've been nominated for so many Oscars cause like it's gonna continue to be a part of the conversation.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Is that specific song nominated for an Oscar? Oh, that's a good question. I'm not sure, but like the film is. And to me, the film is that one scene. Would they be playing that? Maybe that's why they canceled performances. Cause like the world couldn't handle that. Cause they would have to,
Starting point is 01:16:55 right, because it would be like so glaringly obvious. Maybe that's why they, cause they have two songs from Amelia Perez nominated. And I just want to say, Amelia Perez was one nomination away from tying with the most nominated Oscar movie of all time. Which is what? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:11 The Wizard of Oz? Probably like, shh. Gone with the wind. Most nominate, 14 Oscars though is the most. And it goes to- And they have 13. 13 nods for Amelia Presse. The previous record holders were Roma
Starting point is 01:17:26 and Cratching Tiger Hidden Dragon with 10 each. Wait, who has 14 nods? Oh no, all about Eve, Titanic and La La Land. Titanic, are you kidding me? Titanic and Amelia Perez. And right, those people died for what? To be compared to Amelia Perez? Spot the difference, I can't.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Who's your Queenie? My Queenie was Carrie Underwood for her rendition of America the Beautiful, going at acapella, Queenie behavior. That actually was Queenie behavior. That was like very much Queenie behavior. Hold on. Also honestly, honorable mention to Camila Cabello.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Oh, I agree. Coming in under the wire. Yeah. Wait, so I write down our Queenies and Weenies now, and I just am gonna need you to properly title your Queenie sex change operation song. No, you have to say it like this. Sex change operation.
Starting point is 01:18:15 And you see at the end of the clip when he's like saying, he's like- Rhinoplasty, yes. Rhinoplasty, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And then there was one that she- Adam's apple reduction, yes. Yes,asti, yes. Yes. Yes. Ba ba ba ba ba, yes. And then there was one that she-
Starting point is 01:18:26 Adam's apple reduction, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Yes. I'm telling you, you guys, it is seriously the funniest thing that's ever happened to me. You know? I know, but it's really like, it's so crazy that that's-
Starting point is 01:18:41 It's so crazy. One Oscar nom shy of Titanic. Yeah. Who is your weenie? So I, it's like weenie doesn't even begin to cover it, but like this week I've been consumed with thoughts of that husband who's sending pictures of his wife naked to his friends.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Like now, so if it turns out that he's like an actual predator, that's obviously like bigger than Weenie. But it just, I couldn't let the week go by without like acknowledging this person in an official capacity. No, I totally agree. From Deer Toasters, if you haven't tuned into Wednesday's episode, Deer, oh, excuse me,
Starting point is 01:19:15 Tuesday's episode, Deer Toasters was like seriously one of the craziest it's ever been. And I've been thinking so much about her. Okay, I'm jotting it down, even though like my weenie now, which is like pale in comparison to that. I know, that's what I mean. Like I'm overusing the weenie. Like it's too big.
Starting point is 01:19:31 I know, I know, but I understand, I understand. What about you? Well, I was gonna do like Kyle Richards storm out, but like not after what you just said. Honestly? That was like classic, that was just like weenie. But if you look up weenie in the dictionary, it's Kyle Richards at the spa day. I think you have to do it. That was like classic, that was just like weenie. But if you look up weenie in the dictionary, it's Kyle Richards at the spa day.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I think you have to do it. That's a great one. I almost made Garcelle my queenie because I had made her my weenie and I wanted to, she undid a little bit of the weenie-ness that she exerted a couple of weeks ago at that dinner when she was like inserting herself in something that really had nothing to do with her.
Starting point is 01:20:00 But sex change operation took the cake. I agree. I think I need to see more Queenie behavior from Garcelle for her to be the Queenie. Just because there's been a lot of- But I could co-sign Kyle as your Weenie, like 100%. Okay, I should have gotten first though. Yeah, we eat 1000%.
Starting point is 01:20:16 But we actually don't tell each other are Weenies and Queenies before the show. We like to be surprised. So there's no way to properly and like appropriately plan who goes first. And I'm jotting down the herstory of Weenies for 2025. Jackie, that's beautiful. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:31 So that's our show. I've been taking the minutes. I'll be out of here. Like, let's just have one moment of silence for this place, okay? Should I sing us a song? You? Okay, you could sing, but I get to choose a song.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Bigger than the whole sky. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. You were bigger than the whole sky. You were more than just a short life. I've got a lot to pine about. I've got a lot to dream about. I've got a lot to dream about. I'm never gonna meet.
Starting point is 01:21:07 What could have been, would have been. What should have been you. These four walls. What should have been these four walls. Came down around us. What'd you call me, JJ Abram? I said DJ Earworm. I said DJ Earworm. There's literally no higher compliment in the world
Starting point is 01:21:27 than calling me DJ Earworm. So true. Like, oh, okay, I have a knack for music. I've got a knack. Thank you so much for listening to the Test the Line Every Morning Show. We tell the best life stories you need to every Monday to Friday on YouTube.
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Starting point is 01:22:02 Love you, bye.

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