The Toast - Shakespeare, Roosevelt and The Rizzler: Tuesday, September 24, 2024

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday! Speaking of the one I love to choose, it's Jacqueline Follet. Hello, Jacqueline. How are you today? Hi, Turteloo. That's actually so nice because if you listen to yesterday's episode and then go right into today's episode, we kind of leave off on a fight. And then to know that today I'm the one that you choose, not that you really have a choice, but let's just go it it's beautiful it's giving sisters it's giving sisterly things that

clip from our little fight yesterday had me seriously in tears do you feel this call isn't it so crazy that we are sisters because we're so many things to each other, right? We are business partners. I would say that we're like kind of best friends, but we also like our family. Yeah, it is crazy to think about. And I'm sure there is one person out there right now, at least one who did not know that we were sisters until this very moment. Claudia and I are sisters, same mom, same dad. Blood.

100% sisters. And it's very wonderful. 100%. What percent? 100%. No. 100%. And there might be one person out there listening that doesn't know I released two amazing songs. Both sort of anthems of this brand and this show. One is called Toast and one is called 100%. You can stream them wherever you stream your music and just add to my billions of downloads, you know? And there might be one person out there listening who doesn't know that I wrote a children's book last year.

And I've actually been having a renaissance with The Camper and The Counselor because before it came out, I read it to Harry 10 times a day. It was his favorite book. And then like all things with kids, like we moved on, but it's coming back into the fold. I read it yesterday, like start to finish. Like it's so, so good. And if you're looking for a children's book for your little one that rhymes, that has a really good message, great pictures, the camper and the counselor by Jax. I feel like there might be one person out there that doesn't know that I also wrote a book. Not for children, for adults.

It's a memoir of sorts. It's kind of a memoirs of eternity. It's memoirs of eternity. It's called Girl With No Job, The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Third Sponsor. And it just tells my story of how I got to be where I'm at. Fun celebrity tidbits, you know, girl boss things. I think that you'll really enjoy it. A lot of people did.

It made the New York Times bestsellers list. So you can get it anywhere you get your books if you're interested. I actually think that there might be one or more people out there who don't know how we got started doing this podcast. And I'm saying that in earnest. And probably that's like a question.

How'd you start the podcast? What made you start it? That's all in Claudia's book. Like it is covered. So if you've been curious about the genesis of la toast i didn't even pay her to say that you guys yeah no but i feel like that's a logical question if people stumble upon this podcast like how what kind of business is y'all in what kind of business y'all in that was so funny claudia and i were in a meeting we were we were in a meeting like a week or two ago and

we were telling zoom or irl zoom we were telling wait i tell you the story you'll probably remember what i got to say we were talking telling someone how like we're really in like hustling season like we're we're really like crushing and like we're just working really hard um and it's like what we said we carried on with the conversation and then she was like so when you say we're hustling like what are we hust what is what are we hustling and we're like yeah no that was really giving it's a mindset we invented post-its we did we invented podcasting for the girls that's for sure sure. Yeah, amongst the pioneers. But you know, Heather McDonald, she makes it hard to say we invented it.

So true. We literally didn't. Yeah, no, she was here before us. It's ahistorical because of her. So true. She's getting in the way of us making her history. We also, low key, haven't even been nearly as annoying as we could have been. Because tomorrow we're announcing something really fun.

We've sort of been teasing it. If you've been paying attention, you might know. something really fun. We've sort of been teasing it. If you've been paying attention, you might know. But if you – We've really not been teasing it. We've been lightly alluding. All that to say, announcement Wednesday. Just get ready for Friday. The announcement tomorrow will get you ready for Friday, if that makes sense.

I guess it does make sense. It sounds annoying, but classic us. Yeah, no, we haven't been annoying like as much as we could be. Also, that's classic podcasting influencer content creator. Like get ready for Wednesday because something's coming on Friday that you'll be able to do next week. The Prevastify banter this morning thus far has been extremely self-promotional. Just taking note of the content. I understand that. Yeah. I feel like it had a comedic flair, so it wasn't all bad. It had a comedic flair for sure.

And I feel like there might be one person out there that doesn't know that we run a Patreon. I mean, where you get more content. We beat you guys over the head with it, so like I don't know how you wouldn't, but yes, there might be one person.

Where you get more content from your girls. That's all I'll say. Yeah. Now we can talk about things. For the price of a cup of coffee promoting other people which is what we do all day long so true it's exhausting sort of being this machine so who do you want to promote probably myself you know we did yourself do oh I laid in bed and rotted watching Gilmore Girls yesterday I also made a beef stew and did you though did you Jackie has this beef stew recipe now I feel like there might be one person in the world who doesn't know the history of beef stew on this show there was like

a time period where Jackie was obsessed with making beef stew I think she was breastfeeding and she like found it to be good for her supply so she not only was she making beef making beef stew a lot, she was like talking about it a lot. And that was just this place in my life where like, I could not receive the chatter about beef stew. I was being like really negative about it, really toxic. Like every time she talked about it on the toast, I rolled my eyes and like did everything I could to change the subject. And then lo and behold, a couple of months later, Jackie and I were on vacation together in the mountains. It was very, you know, stewy vibes. And she was like, let me make the stew. And again, I was just railing on her. We actually vlogged the whole experience on our Patreon. And I finally had the stew that she had talked about like probably for a year. And it was

unbelievably delicious. And I, of course, like had foot in my mouth. It was great. Okay. Another thing I was wrong about. So yesterday, as of yesterday, it is so fall. It's so chilly in New York. It's amazing. It's been kind of cloudy. So yesterday I was like, all right, I'm whipping out my crock pot, my first crock pot of the season. What should I make? And I'm like, well, you know, let's do the beef stew. How different can it be?

Jackie makes it on the stove. I make it in the crock pot, but like whatever. And I just like didn't follow any of Jackie's rules. I just threw everything on the ingredient list in the crock pot at once, put it on like high and thought in four hours it would be ready. It was disgusting. Ben at like six o'clock was like, listen, we're going to have to eat at eight. He took it off the crock pot, put it on the stove and just like did like his chefy thing, like added a bunch of seasonings, more tomato paste, couple of, you know, cups of red wine. And at eight o'clock we ate it needed like four more hours it was fine

it was fine I'm curious though you did sear the meat so you followed that step but like I'm curious because we couldn't figure it out amongst ourselves maybe people will let us know like why didn't that work in the crock pot isn't that what a crock pot's for or is crock pot not for soupy sales like if you can't make a stew in the crock pot like what the hell is this appliance for I do think like me starting at two o'clock and hoping to eat at six or seven I think I was thinking you know too small I think it needs to be in at like 8 a.m and then by dinner time it's ready like it's really a slow cooker not four hours is not slow yeah even on high right okay so maybe that was the issue you just didn't leave it long enough but I saw what

was like in your crock pot and that was just not my dish oh my god this is not my plate it looked like something they serve in prison like clear brown liquid i was gonna say like game of thrones like you know go to the ale house yeah yeah this is like barley you're traveling like from king's landing to westeros the north yeah and you're just like forlorn and you find this, yeah, thousand percent, this pub. You needed a cup of ale.

How did it taste-ish? Bad. Bad. Like it was eatable. Eatable. There's a word for that. Edible. I was able to eat it.

Not in, like, like I wasn't enjoying it, but I was so hungry that um I just was like eating the meat for sustenance like I needed the iron like I needed the protein to bring me back to life I was like in a faint dinner just like kept getting pushed back and kept getting pushed back and I was so hungry dinner has been canceled due to lack of crockpot awareness literally now I had wanted to make chili in the crock pot, but now I'm just kind of nervous. So I do have a crock pot chili recipe.

It does require four hours in the crock. So it appears as though I can't just take like pre-existing recipes that aren't for the crock pot and just like put them in the crock pot. But like you can. That's the point. I interchange my chili between the stove and the crock pot. It really makes no difference. That's what I'm saying. That's why we need like a lot of stove and the crock pot. It really makes no difference. That's what I'm saying.

That's why we need like, a lot of you guys are crock pot experts, unless you use a liner, but you don't sound off. But can someone write in the comments like where we went wrong here? Yeah. I'm like, I knew something was off

because I went to take the trash out like hours into this excursion. And when I came back in, I was like ready. I'm like, oh, I'm going to smell it. Like, oh yeah. I didn't smell smell anything was your crock pot on honestly yes it was because I saw the condensation on the lid and the buttons were lighting up and it said power like it was on it said power it said power you need to get a book of crock pot recipes yeah even though that reminds me of like the one part that I read about

Long Island Compromise like in the beginning when she's like cooking in her microwave with from a recipe book of like recipes to cook in your microwave and it's the book is made by the microwave manufacturer oh so I saw I think you texted me that you were gonna give Long Island Compromise another go so here's what I have to start the Redheads book so Long Island Compromise is being shelved when I finish the Redheads book. So Long Island Compromise is being shelved. When I finish the Redheads book, like there's a chance I'll pick LIC back up just because I've made headway.

But what I'm realizing is like, this is my worst year for reading since before I learned how to read. Same. Which was in 2019. I thank God for the Redheads because it makes me read a book a month. I would have read seriously three books this year max.

However, sometimes I pick up a book and like I want to keep reading it. I find free time to read it because it's so good. And now I need to realize like, if a book isn't making me feel that I need to move on because I don't have all the time in the world. And if I'm not feeling motivated to read, like I'm not going to read. So I really need to be more selective in what I'm reading because there's just not as much reading time I too am on track for the worst reading year of my life and I feel like that's sort of the sentiment in the country I don't think it's just us I think it's a nationwide thing I think literacy levels are down comment sound off in the comments like is this also your worst reading year yet if you're like a reader who reads like a lot of books every year I mean last year I think

I was pushing like 70 books I I'm not even at 15. Interesting. I wonder what it is. Because for me, I know it's just like lifestyle. And I've just gotten like really busy. And that's something that has slipped through the cracks. But maybe it's also the quality of books. I feel like the last few years have been like booming for the book business. And like the girly, swirly writers who like write the hits,

like they've been churning them out. And like maybe what they're churning them out and like maybe what they're churning right now isn't the best and it's not motivating people to keep reading maybe that's just a theory that's a theory here's my theory if what you're saying is true that this is a universal slump in reading we'll find out but here's my theory I like that theory though it might be better than mine my theory is that like when you become a girly swirly reader like there are so many books that you have to read, right? And the girlies who came before you did the work for you. So you really know like the great hits that you have to do.

Like, of course, Seven Husbands, yada, yada. And I feel like after a certain amount of time, like you did them all. Yeah, I agree with that. But I hit that wall a while ago and it just made me work harder to find books. And also by then I knew what I liked best. And so I was able to like go down like historical fiction rabbit hole and like this is where I leave you like now choose your path you want to read more smut you want to read more historical fiction non-fiction um but that definitely is true but and that that is something that every girly swirly reader like

has to overcome at some point like yeah I've read the hits where do I go from here right right and then you kind of read like the tier two four star hits the tier two four star hits yeah and then you have to start like doing your own sourcing which can be hard but for me it's not it's aside from Long Island Compromise it's not a lack of choices it's just a lack of time at the moment for me for me it's not even a lack of time it's like a genuine lack of interest I don't know I just like I can't pick up the Kindle. There's so many other things I'd rather do. I know. So that's what I'm dealing with.

It's okay. Everything, it's all a phase. That's what I say about everything. It's just a phase. It's another like gloomy day here. Very chilly vibes. So I'm feeling really grateful. Like I got to work today and I wasn't sweating for like the first time in a couple of weeks.

So it's really, it's a good time. That's so nice. I'm like living in a simulation where I simulate in my home, like the kind of weather and the vibes that I want. Soon I'm going to have to put up like projectors outside my windows so that I can have like snow falling. Yep. So there are days like yesterday I had to like hit the road right after the toast.

So I have to dress for my climate, which is unfortunate. But like today is a home day for me. So like, yeah, it's super cozy, chilly here too. Listen, create the seasons you wish to see in the world. Yeah, like I'll just crank down the AC. I got my coil. So we're good to go. Oh, you never updated us on what happened.

You decided not to replace the unit. I didn't replace the whole unit. I replaced the coil. It seems to be working in the zone. Coil seems to be working um in the coil be coiling what coil be coiling coil be coiling you know the risk is that it craps out soon and I do have to replace the machine but for now it's good and when you do come down to visit me like you shall have AC oh in my bedroom because fun fact the last couple of times I've stayed at Jackie's house like the AC in my bedroom just it's like that's not a service that the wine reps provide for me anymore. In that bedroom. Yeah. But now you do have AC in your

quarters. That's exciting. In Turdy's quarters. In her own little corner, in her own little room, she can be whoever she wants to be. Um, what else? I didn't really get a temperature from the comments yesterday if people liked when you teased the stories at the beginning I personally liked it I saw one person say that they liked it because I think a lot of people do look in the notes about what the stories are so it's nice to hear a little preview okay so tell us a little bit about what's going on in the world here's a little bit about what's going on in the world. Here's a little bit about what's going on. It's going to be hard to really jazz this up. Major fashion show news.

Major sports theories and news. Sports theories and news? Sports theories and news. Okay. I'll leave you at that. You're going to have to keep listening to find out. Stay tuned for more. Casting news. Mm-hmm.

Parenting. Celeb parenting news. Mm-hmm. And a little music news. Okay, big. I don't even know one story that you're referring to, so that's exciting. Now you want to keep listening. What is she talking about?

Do a little dance. Make a little nerf. Get down tonight. Get down tonight down tonight never gonna give you up never gonna give you down exactly I guess now we could get into the stories that are incredibly vague I guess I guess have you seen the conspiracy theory on the interwebs that John Mulaney got a chin implant? I saw the theory. However, what about it is conspiracy? Right, right. Because, you know, when I saw him live performing the Hamptons, I don't know if I mentioned that I saw him live at the Hamptons this summer. I thought I'm like, damn, he had a glow up like he grew his hair out and he looked

like really strong. And I actually could not put my finger on exactly what it was that looked different about him. And this conspiracy theory that started on Twitter when, you know, eagle eyed viewer pointed out that was exactly what it was. Like, I couldn't figure out the difference, but it was the very square-like shaped jawline. Now, there's a little bit of, you know, debate over whether it's filler in the jaw or an actual chin implant, but I'm glad we're talking about this. Yeah. It definitely looks like a new chin. um yeah it it definitely looks like a new chin and it looks really good like normalize getting a new chin i did it you didn't do it we did a different we like he wanted a bigger chin i wanted a smaller chin so i got liposuction in my neck but yeah nevertheless we both didn't like our chins

yeah but like what he did like a chin, like puts your little thing to shame. Yeah. No, mine was just like a little outpatient needle in my neck. You know, not a big deal. Classic. Just another Wednesday. Yeah. Just, you know, contributing to the toxic beauty standard for women.

I literally am symbolic of the unrealistic standard for women when it comes to beauty. Like between my skin, my jawline, like my physique. Your hair. My hair. I know I'm a part of the problem. and I'm sorry to all the women listening. But at least you're honest about what you do. That's, I think, the solution. I guess. But in an actual serious sense, because what I just said was a joke, I like and maybe it's

just because I'm secure and like I'm not able to be influenced by people on the Internet or celebrities like I don't do not compare myself ever. I do not feel that like female celebrities are required to share their cosmetic procedures. Like if you want to share, cool. I definitely find that interesting. But I don't feel like, well, you have to tell us what you've done.

You don't. Like you can keep that to yourself. Yeah. I mean, if it's, if it's effective, like we'll see. Yeah. And if you like look at a woman, like let's say Kim Kardashian and you're like, why don't I look like that? And you're not able to like critically think that like she probably had work done on her face and body. Like, like, look at a woman, like, let's say Kim Kardashian, and you're like, why don't I look like that? And you're not able to, like, critically think that, like,

she probably had work done on her face and body. Like, you probably should stay off the internet because it's important to have that sort of literacy. I really believe that. And I don't think it's incumbent on other people to share with us, like, what they did. Yeah. But I know I'm unique in that.

I don't know if you're unique in that. It just is not the prevailing sentiment, you know? But it's, like, what does everyone actually think? Right, right. It's important that we protect our peace on the internet and like think critically and think for ourselves, you know? Yeah, that's a good lesson, period. Yeah, like stop comparing.

Yeah, perfect example from Liv Schmidt, yeah. Any updates on Liv Schmidtgate? No, she's been silenced, so we haven't heard from her. Even though I do think she started another account like quickly after being banned. So if you're like desperate for her content, I do believe there is somewhere to find it. But it's not taking off.

Got it. Okay. And then she's like waiting, she appealed, the ban, you know. The judicial system. The TikTok judicial system. Yeah. Now that's justice. Big time.

Big justice and AJ. Big justice. I feel like big justice and AJ are like really having a moment of like global virality. When I feel like when I met them, yes, on Patreon, I did a Costco shopping haul and I ran into big justice and AJ. Like that is a big deal. I feel like they were having more like regional virality and like overnight it just exploded maybe from I wouldn't say they were having regional virality I would say they were having like platform specific virality

like if you had TikTok and you happen to be on this side of TikTok where like people do hauls from Costco you knew them now if like you're an internet user you know Big Justice and AJ I agree they are definitely having a moment and I'm so happy to have discovered them honestly I invented them in this family and I don't want anyone like I literally sent them a video I sent Olivia a video so long ago and I was like by the way this is literally your future son and your husband like this is them and she thought it was so funny and like I invented them and I just want to go on record saying because I know everyone's going to try and steal and take the credit away from me no No, not me. You won't hear a peep from me because I didn't really know them until the day that I met them. And it was a wonderful day.

And if I had a quarter for every time someone in my house said we bring the boom, like I seriously could buy a whole Costco. It is insane. Yesterday I was helping Ben. He's filming an ad and it was for food. And I literally was like, you are big justice right now. Like you're being so big justice and big justice is a dad right yeah and AJ is a son and then they have like ancillary

characters like people they collab with do you know the Rizzler I thought the Rizzler was a snack the Rizzler is not a snack the Rizzizzler is a human being, a little kid who is so funny. I think he's from New York, so they travel to each other a lot, and they film podcasts and lives. The Rizzler is like three feet tall. He is so funny. The Rizzler. I thought it was like the chicken bake, the Rizzler.

No, no. The double chunk chocolate cookie. Big Justice loves the double chunk chocolate cookie from Costco. That's his thing. And then AJ loves the chicken bake. Right. Okay. And the Rizzler is a human being.

And the Rizzler is a human being. Okay, cool. I got to keep up. I really do think they exploded since they released their song. I think that was really the tipping point. I want to say. Kind of like you when you release Toast. Literally.

Not to, like, bring it full circle, but for sure. I don't know who's, when you release Toast. Literally, not to like bring it full circle, but for sure. I don't know who's managing them. Like I actually think they manage themselves. Like they're super organic because, but every like step

they take in their career is brilliant, beyond brilliant. Like releasing a song, genius. The song itself, Oscar, Grammy.

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like every year and it always makes waves because they do a good job it's literally that episode of Sex in the City like models are you a model or a real person and then Carrie falls on the runway literally the best episode. Not as good as when she falls in Dior during the Petrovsky era. I don't know. This one's really good. She thinks she's such hot shit

on the runway. And Jackie, she didn't want to wear this outfit because it was too skimpy. And then all of her friends like gassed her up. They're like, you're Carrie fucking Bradshaw.

She was like, yeah, I am. And then she goes out and eats shit. Like it's amazing. You actually couldn't, the fact that Michael Patrick King, whatever his name was, like hated Carrie so much is so evident in the show and in episodes like

that you really can't ignore it I love it um but L'Oreal does this every year but it's really on like a major scale they always have like the biggest supermodels like they have Kendall Cara Delevingne but then also like the biggest influencers like they cover a bunch of different categories and then also like regular folk but also because like these are their brand ambassadors. Like Kendall is the face of L'Oreal. So Kendall walked. Cara Delevingne, as you said. Eva Longoria.

Camila Cabello. Jane Fonda. Heidi Klum. Viola Davis. Andy McDowell, our fave. Bethany Frankel, which we'll get to. Anita. Simone Ashley.

Not Anita. Like I literally thought she was one of the models. Her walk was so sick. Like I was, I didn't know that she was not a model. Do you. Like I literally thought she was one of the models. Her walk was so sick. Like I was, I didn't know that she was not a model. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, they all look like models at this point. Everyone who's an actress is a model and a model is an actress. A singer is a model is a model is a singer. I would say one standout name from this was Bethany. That was surprising when she was walking. And then people are coming for her and her walk. Yeah, yeah.

Did you see the video of her walking? Of course I did. Let me say something. Like Bethany is an inspiration to so many women. Like her beauty takes are so popular. And she really makes a lot of products go viral. And so L'Oreal tapping her. And I think she works with L'Oreal.

I know she does like a lot of their like ads for their hair company. And she likes a lot of their beauty products. And so this is like a long-term partnership for her so I think it was actually really smart of them to tap her because she is you know really viral she everyone's talking about her now she is like really she's major and I think like a lot of like older women really look up to her when it comes to beauty because she's very no bullshit approach whatever um the walk wasn't like amazing you know it was giving like they should have given her different shoes I think she was just having a hard time walking in the

shoes here's what she said because she did a Instagram story when she got home I think she's literally still has her hair like in the bun she said I chose those shoes L'Oreal said you can pick anything you want and I chose those shoes because I wanted to be like a giraffe like elongated legs like one of those long-legged creatures that walks a runway and looks like they're not even the same species. She said that she loved her walk because that's what the show was about. It was not about being perfect. It was about being perfectly imperfect and doing what you want to do.

And it's so easy to sit and watch someone else do something and criticize it. I posted that video because I live for it. So I love what she said. It's so easy to sit and watch someone else do something and criticize it like exactly and you could tell on stage like if she wanted to walk differently like she could have at least she wasn't even trying to walk normal she was like stomping she had like a little march trying to yeah a little flare she was having fun I really think anybody who's like seriously sitting home being like why is Bethany there why is she walking

like that like you're missing out on the joy of life no it's so true and you know what like she showed up as herself she wasn't showing up as a model she was showing up as like this you know really influencer reality star whatever you want to call it but like this influential person when it comes to makeup and she just showed up completely as herself and she was so proud of her of her walk and like that's literally all that matters I agree like I think her response is amazing and it's it's very true like you know everyone sits at home like picking their belly buttons commenting on what other people look like and whatever and it's like please and what other people do and it's like well you don't do anything so yeah it's easy for you to sit there and say like, and poke fun at like the brave person.

It's the man in the arena, Turdy. It's so true. I, and of course, like the comparisons to Ramona were like, I think a lot of people's first, first instinct because like Housewives on the runway is its own category of pop culture history. It's true. Bethany Frankel is the woman in the arena.

I want to pull up that quote because we need our yearly reminder don't you think it's such a good quote it's such a good quote teddy roosevelt the man in the arena it is not the critic who counts not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs, who comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcoming. But who does actually strive to do the deeds,

who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. The middle lost me a little bit. It's like a little long, but yes. You got us back at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah for the poor timid trolls no it's very true and if you watch a video like at the end of the day bethany looks like she's having so much fun i think she's like so proud of herself and that's what comes through so i love the response i actually loved this event oddly i agree like

what are they showing off in a fashion i don't know i don't know um but it always ends up being like a big viral moment for L'Oreal. They always get really premium talent, either, you know, people who work with them long term, like Kendall is like the new face of like global L'Oreal or just influencers. I think last year, like a lot of the favorite makeup girlies walked that girl. Her name is not Kendall. She looks like Kendall. What is her name?

Whatever. Is her name Kendall? Whatever. They do a really good job of like surveying the beauty landscape. And Bethany, like right now, she's having a moment. And they leaned into that and she had fun and that's all that matters. Yeah. And the picture where like she's not walking,

she just like looks so fantastic. And the shoes look great. Yeah, the shoes look great. So that was fun. I want to talk about Kendall for a moment, if we may. Because Kendall's gone blonde. Yes. And I saw this theory that Liz Woods posted on her Instagram

that really has stuck inside my head that said, celebrities go blonde when they've just had work done. And then they go blonde because you're like, oh, they look different because they're blonde. And then eventually by the time they go back, you were just like, oh, they're back. And you don't really notice the work is that a very good theory it is um I happen to really like Kendall's blonde hair right now

um and maybe that's what she wanted me to think but it's also it's not like Kendall is someone who never plays with her hair I remember she had like that red face so it really could be either I just like it as a theory in general and I also think that it's a good strategy if you are trying to obfuscate your work. I know it's so true. It's like, hey, look at me, but don't. No, hey, look at me. Yeah, I look different because I changed my hair. Right.

We'll have to wait for her to turn back. And the thing is, a side-by-side photo always helps. Because now we're onto it. But if she just turned back, we'd be like, oh, she looks different again because she turned back. Yeah. So I thought that was a little interesting trick of the trade. And that actually would make sense as to why the Kardashians for so many years have had each,

every single one of them, so many different hair colors, except for Kourtney. Except for Kourtney. You know, that toxic hair dye. It's not, it's not seeping through her follicles. That's true. But it could also be a wig. And I often wonder with the Kardashians

because it was a period where they were all changing their hair so much and there's really no way that they're bleaching their hair as frequently as they are. I think Kim did the one time

and she kept it for a very long time. Should I go blonde? Are you getting work done? I wish. What would you suggest? Just a cloning. Yeah, I think so too.

Are you ready for our next story, our sports theory news? Yes. Because some big football news from the weekend that we didn't touch on yesterday but that we're going to get into today is Travis Kelsey's performance in his big game. I'm so glad my Travi made it to the big game I'm so glad my Travi made it to the big game one step closer to Kelsey being my last name um because if you play like you ain't worthy which he did on Sunday call me Mrs. Taylor Purdy. Mrs. Taylor Turdy. He did play like he wasn't worthy on Sunday. And there's a lot of rumors swirling about Travis Kelsey right now. Oh my God, like the man can't have a bad day.

Like there has to be theories around it. This is his first bad game. Seriously, since we've all started watching, which is now like two seasons. One. But also apparently this season he's had a slow start. Now the analysts are chirping and here's analysts are analyzing analysts gonna analyze some are telling him to retire amid his career worst stats some are saying that he partied too hard in the offseason with taylor you know he

went to the u.s open had a honey juice and that's why he's like not fit to play but then also like on Sunday I think Patrick was like not passing as much to Travi so people thought there was beef I think he like had his feelings hurt a little bit but I think maybe it's maybe honestly like Tia and Tamara maybe it's like Trump versus Kamala Taylor and Britney by the way I'm glad you brought that up because you need to explain what we found out like right i have to rewrap which was that tamara yeah i apologize yesterday i knew i had heard a theory and i should have just googled it so tamara is the one who's like confirmed republican she when she was on the view the real oh my god the sorry the the real she actually like spoke about how her husband who's's like a Fox News correspondent, like works at Fox News, is, you know, loves Trump. And I think that their family is like very,

he was like in the process of like, you know, showing her a whole new world. And she became like a conservative woman. And she like had to go on the real and be like, listen, my husband's not racist. And like, it was a huge thing. And so it's kind of an ongoing story. So it's kind of an ongoing story. Okay, so, but just to say, we were theorizing that Tia was the Republican and Tamara was the liberal, but it's actually the opposite. But the concept was valid.

Yeah, but still unclear. I got my sisters wrong. Still unclear if that's what drove them apart. But just to clarify, like there is a political divide and it was the opposite sisters. But I don't know, like where does that leave Taj? I can't talk about these sisters again because like yesterday

everybody wanted to kill me for getting their um politics wrong but yeah thank you for reminding me just like a little correction so yeah this is giving Tia and Tamara a little bit but was Patrick not throwing to Travi because he's a Republican or because like Travi doesn't have what it takes these days I don't think like these professional ass men would literally ever let politics. And I actually, and Patrick has been asked about politics a lot, like very directly in press conferences, and he refuses to engage.

He's like, that's literally not my job. I don't believe in telling people who to vote for. Like do your research and find the best candidate for you. And I actually don't know if Travis like really is like, you know, has his head fully invested in like in the election. Like I think that was a joke. That was a joke that I just said, by the way, because that's not what I was thinking. I think really the more story here is like, is Travis at the end of his career?

And I know like two bad games doesn't make a mean you have to like leave now. But there was a lot of. I also think a lot of part of this. And I think he was crying was Travis crying he was he had like a phobos and a punim when the camera cut to him because he like missed a really big catch so he's like sitting there like you know yelling at himself we've all been there you know he's experiencing like self-doubt you see it all happening across his face like a thousand different emotions he's like obviously embarrassed because like everyone's

watching um but another element is that the Kansas City Chiefs like as you we've said many times like they're on their way to building this dynasty and they're investing in other good players too so it's so much so that that Patrick isn't throwing it to Travis is that Travis Patrick has more options now when it comes to players to throw to so that means less catches for Travis statistically that's and then like the two times he threw to him like he dropped the ball and it's like yikes we don't really have time for you to be like kind of fucking shit up so why don't you just sit this one out yeah it's just like it was a little awkward I want to say awkward I am really grateful that like the football community you know people who were fans before last year aren't just being like look Taylor's ruining because that would I just knew like the

second that Travis like started fucking up, people would be like, he's spending too much time with Taylor. He's not focused. And you know, his best games were when him and Taylor first started dating. So I was happy that like we weren't scapegoating. No, he won the Super Bowl with Taylor by his side. This is not a Jessica Simpson, Tony Romo situation.

Exactly. So I'm glad we're not blaming Taylor because I know people would like automatically be like, well, it's Taylor. Actually, they could blame her in the other way, which is that this was the first game in a while that she hasn't gone to and then I'm so sad my Travi played bad at the big game. Now I do want to say him partying so much in the offseason I don't think is a thing but this new level of fame

like makes him very busy. You know he has this new FX show Grotesquery. He's hosting Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader. Like those are in and of itself full-time jobs right right so I feel like I don't know if he's partying I think maybe he's spreading himself a little thin with all the opportunities that have come his way in the commercials suffering he's not in the gym and Andy Reid anytime he's been asked about it especially in the beginning he was always like listen the game hasn't suffered. His, you know, skills haven't suffered. So I don't give a fuck what he does in his private life. Well, now he's a little ako taco. I wonder what changed. But I do think like it's not fair to make these grand assumptions like off of a game.

Yeah, but the analysts are saying, I think we might have like missed the last few games, like not picked up on the fact that he wasn't playing his best. And then because he was crying on Sunday and Taylor wasn't there like it's become clear now I'm not saying that means he has to retire tomorrow like but is this the writing on the wall so to speak and how old is he he that's Jackie what I was looking at 34 and Jason is how old? 36? 36, yeah. That's like kind of young to retire. He just retired.

Yeah. So Travi like should have two more years. That sounds right. Did you see the picture of Jason Kelsey in a bathing suit? That's sort of taken the internet by storm. Nowhere was he in a bathing suit. At the beach. Somebody just like took a picture with him and he's wearing this little bathing suit.

You just see his body, I think for the first time. I think this was a lot of people's first time seeing his body. And the shorts and the position that he's sitting just sort of grip really everything. It's really a crazy photo. I'm looking, but I don't think...

He's sitting in a chair on the beach and there's like two girls behind him taking a photo with him. No, it's not going to be easy to find. No, it really should be. I just searched Jason Kelsey bathing suit. Also, what happened? I was thinking about this the other day.

What happened to the ESPN body issue? Do you remember that? I loved that. Even before I was like into sports, I thought it was like so beautiful how they paid such respect to both men and women who like devote their whole physical being to their sport. And then they like take these really tasteful, not nude because like they cover like vaginas and boobs, but they're nude otherwise. These really beautiful portraits of like the biggest athletes in all different sports. Yeah. I thought it was so beautiful. I had forgotten about it until just now. fall I I had forgotten about it until just now yeah final issue was in 2019 why because like we're objectifying but we weren't it was I always thought it was so tasteful why don't you keep digging why was it final why did ESPN stop doing consumer habits are evolving rapidly and this

requires ESPN to evolve as well the network said in a statement the only change here is that we are moving away from printing it on paper and sending it in the mail. That's not an answer. That was a bad call. That was a bad call. Yeah. Maybe they'll bring it back like the Victoria's Secret fashion show. Yeah, I remember this. Really made news.

Vince Wilfork. Who doesn't have the typical, what you would think an athlete's body is supposed to look like. I'm on my way. No, they really covered everyone. Like it was so, it was beautiful.

I loved it. A lot of these images are hidden when you like search them on Google. Oh yeah, and then of course I remember the, was that Amari Stoudemire? Yeah, who held, like was totally naked

and put his hand in front of his penis and you know people were like how can you cover your whole penis like it was just the kind of the fingertips and people were like wow does Amari Stoudemire have a small penis maybe that's why they got rid of it because people were being disgusting myself included I just want to say like my contribution to as a sports podcaster, bring back the ESPN body issue. I liked it. And bring forward Keeping Up With Sports. No. I'm actually glad. I know one of your favorite, like your Roman Empire is the fact that Caitlyn Jenner and Lamar Odom announced a podcast with the worst title ever called Keeping Up With Sports where they were going to like do sports for the girlies.

And they never released an episode. And I know that is your Roman Empire. But let me just say that I'm so glad they never did. I still feel like it's forthcoming. It's been a year. I think it's in production. We've got to get them on the toes to find out. So that I can just, like, move on.

If it's not happening. So you can sleep. If it's not happening, like, I can grieve. Right. And if it is happening, I can just sit tight. Of course. Are you ready for our next story what number three oh yeah the aforementioned casting news is that margot robbie and jacob alorti are set to portray gothic lovers katherine and heathcliff in emerald fennel's wuthering

heights adaptation now we all know wuthering Heights from high school English. We do. Like, I know. I've heard, obviously, Wuthering Heights, and I definitely read it. You know, the, um, what is it? I can't remember if it's one of the ones that I did read or that I flubbed.

I know that, like, the trees, what is it called? Like, the moors. It was, like, a big thing. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Like, something. Let's get a little summary i remember like sitting in english class like we were talking about the trees there's something about trees in the book for sure oh there's they're withering aren't they right in the late

winter months of 1801 a man named lockwood rents a manor house called Threshcaros Grange in the isolated moor country of England. The moors! That's what I said! Here he meets his dour landlord, Heathcliff, a wealthy man who lives in the ancient manor of Wuthering Heights, four miles away from the Grange. In this wild, stormy countryside,

Lockwood asks his housekeeper, Nellie Dean, to tell him the story of Heathcliff and the strange denizens of Wuthering Heights. Nellie consents, and Lockwood writes down his recollections of her tale in his diary. These written recollections form the main part of Wuthering Heights. Now, I think for a lot of girlies,

this casting news shakes them to their core. I think a lot of people regard this novel as they regarded like little women like waiting with bated breath to see who would I don't even remember this book um I don't really give a fuck and I feel like Margot Robbie's like busy I don't know how she's doing this we just announced she would be doing the Sims movie she's pregnant get you a girl who could do both you know the Sims movie and Wuthering Heights talk about range yeah I'm sat for this. I like Margarabi.

I like Jacob Lordi. I like a period piece. I don't think that I read Wuthering Heights in earnest. I think I just spark notes did at best. One thousand percent. So like, I don't know the story. No spoilers. Like, I'm sat.

I mean, I think we're all in agreement that when it came to like high school reading material none of us ever read any of the books except for the curious case of the dog in the middle of the night right like that was a universal experience so that was your one book that you read that stuck with you the one book that I read that stuck with me and I feel like I chose Jackie it's not the one book that I read that stuck with me it was the one book that I read period and right and so it has stuck with you because you read it and the one that I chose and I actually think I made a good choice in what I chose to read the one book was um spit it out the portrait of Dorian Gray fabulous book fab that's that's like a classic it is I mean like that's why it was chosen yeah it's like why,

if they wanted us to really like learn to read, they should have had us reading Tessa Bailey and Colleen Hoover, like let's be real. Well, they knew you were reading that like at home. But I wasn't. Well, you were probably reading, we were reading like Gossip Girl on the A-list. So we were doing,

we were doing our reading for fun at home. Yeah, Massey Block and the crew. And that's why I couldn't be bothered to read Wuthering Heights or Jane Eyre, which I did read Jane Eyre two years ago to sort of catch up. I didn't miss anything, by the way. And like none of us read The Catcher in the Rye, right?

And we certainly did not actually read Fahrenheit 451. Certainly not. Did not read The Sun Also Rises. Can't remember if I read Great Gatsby or just saw the movie enough to know the story, but I do feel filled on my Great Gatsby cup. Yeah, I know I didn't read Great Gatsby, and, like, the way I couldn't fucking hear about, like,

the meaning of the cover with the green light. The green fucking light. If we had one more fucking conversation about that light, and I was thinking, I was like, this is probably a new cover. You know, like, when he wrote it, like, that probably wasn't even, like, the cover he wanted. No, but in the book, like, the like this is probably a new cover you know like when he wrote it like that probably wasn't even like the cover he wanted no but in the book like the green light is such a symbol like what is the green light McGuire is like staring at the green light I just feel like everyone was kind of focused on that and they were missing other stuff because they were like the dead man in the pool right because they were so focused on that oh my god like

literally English was one of my least favorite classes so much material like in so much conversation spent on like what do we think the author meant by like this one word like maybe he just like was tired and used that word maybe it's like not that deep no and I also feel like if an author like wants us to know their meaning and like just say it say with your whole chest I know we spent all this time like interpreting what we thought they meant as if they didn't just write out like he meant what he said because he said it. That's like. There's not.

It's not the Bible. Paradise Lost. I don't know what that is. I think it's a poem. Something dreadful. Literature is dreadful. Sorry. It really is.

Unfortunately. Yeah. However, this is a great way to get us into some old classics right right teaching the youth Wuthering Heights ex Jacob Elordi I wonder if they're gonna like woke-ify it up you know like does Heathcliff have blue hair does Heathcliff have blue hair is Lockwood you know queer queer I bet like in actually the real book Lockwood, you know, queer? Queer. By the way, I bet like in actually the real book, Lockwood was queer.

Like that's not them changing anything, you know? Totally. Love that. Yeah, we'll see. We shall see. But I'm open. It's all the same. Yeah.

I actually was just having this conversation about the word queer with some queer people. Like, do they identify with that word? And no, like. No? I'm like, no. Like, being gay and being, I feel like queer, like to describe yourself as queer versus being gay, like you're being intentional, right? And I think queer signals like a lot of like other things besides just like your sexual

preference. I think it's more of like a lifestyle too. Like a vibe. Yeah. And like, you know, yeah, vibe. of like other things besides just like your sexual preference. I think it's more of like a lifestyle too. Like a vibe. Yeah, and like, you know, yeah, vibe. That's a perfect way to describe it. And like that, yeah. Yeah, I can't, it's just like, you know,

I'm queer versus like I'm gay. Yeah, gay is like pretty straightforward. Like, you know what I mean? Like I'm gay. Yeah, I like men. I'm a man who likes men. But, or a woman who likes women. Like, I think if you're saying queer, like yes, my sexual orientation is this,

but I also like. This and that and this and that. Deodorant is optional sort of vibes, you know? Amongst other things, yes, I do understand. I didn't realize that there was such a discrepancy. There is. I'm pretty sure. So, like, if our queer contingencies could sound off in the comments, like, do you, like, are you gay or are you queer?

Because I know they technically mean the same thing, but I think there's a lot of social context to one and the other. I understand what you're saying. And I can see it. I'm letting you know as an ally, I'm letting you know what the gay community is like saying. I appreciate that. I just learned that.

So when I just said Lockwood is clear, like queer, that's kosher? Yeah, because we were talking about like woke. I think queer is much more woke than gay. I understand what you're saying and I could see that and I could feel that. You feel it. Yeah, it's like a feeling. It's a feeling.

But sometimes when you're like talking about like, you know, gay culture, like it's fun to say queer, you know? Yeah. I think queer is a fun word to say, but it has a deeper meaning. But it's also an umbrella term. So you're covering a lot like when I say Lockwood is queer like it could mean a lot of things and that's why I said it because there's a lot of potential for Lockwood yeah but I'm saying like in the book Lockwood

probably was gay you know you don't think he was queer no I think he was gay I don't think queerness existed back then that's what I'm saying que like, I think, a new term and it's like a new culture. In the way that it exists now, but I think what it used to be. Back in the day, people were gay. They weren't like talking about it. Yeah. But they weren't queer. You know what I mean?

I understand what you're saying, but they were still queer. Just the word has, the meaning has changed. And the meaning that we mean today, that's not what was happening back then. You're talking like Merriam-Webster definition wise. Yes, it's been in Merriam-Webster for a long ass time. I'm talking about like vibes. I understand. My brain is starting to break from this.

Like it's, it's always wrapped my head around. You'll get there. No, like I just feel like we're talking like two in the weeds. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, we're not even queer what the hell do we know yeah it's like zoom out zoom back out yeah yeah big bang big bang big queer are you ready for the fourth and fifth story that are brought to you by State Farm yes I am so this episode of the toast is supported by Farm. When you get a new car or a new

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Thank you, Claudia. You're welcome. Our next story, a little celebrity parenting news. Okay. Kristen Bell is casually recalling letting her 11 and 9-year-old kids explore a theme park unattended all day on vacation so that she and Dax Shepard could spend some time alone. You know, I feel like this is reminding reminder when Ashley and Mila were like, we don't use soap. And you know what?

Like everyone do your own thing. Very Matt and Abby. Like do your own parenting thing. Stop telling it to us. Like enough. Yeah. I feel like Dax and Kristen, like Mila and Ashton, like fall into this category of like, you know, sharing these things about parenting. I think they do it to like be relatable um oh ha we wanted time alone like

girl you're rich get a fucking babysitter no it's so true but anyway she went on Jimmy Kimmel live and to promote her new Netflix show nobody wants another oh I do want to see that show that's written by Aaron Foster I was talking about Jimmy Kimmel right and so like you know when you go on a late night show like you plan like a story that you're gonna tell her a couple like you know whatever so this is what she um shared that they casually let their two kids explore a theme park unattended for hours during a recent family vacation she began by telling Jimmy that being a parent to two young children um going on vacation can be pretty stressful she said don't you find don't you find that going on vacation as a parent,

it's not a vacation. You're just watching your kids in a different city. Like, yeah. And like taking a private plane, please. Like, I can't. Jimmy agreed, noting that it's worse than being at home. And Kristen said, truly, because they have none of their creature comforts.

They're asking you a thousand more questions than they normally do. Oh God. Then she revealed that her and Dax's hack to getting some alone time was that when they were in copenhagen they stayed at this hotel that was right at the tavoli gardens which is a seven acre theme park the hotel opens up into the theme park and so we were just kind of like are we going to go free range parenting and roll the die here so we let them wake up at six o'clock every morning they just scan their bracelets to go outside didn't see them for seven hours just running around copenhagen visibly surprised

jimmy questioned and that was okay and kristen replied apparently they're both alive we all returned home your your podcast isn't broken we're just speechless no no I'm I see what I'm doing who are you calling child protective services like that's fucking crazy in a foreign country letting your 9 and 11 year olds and the thing is like I'm never ever ever ever want to criticize someone's parenting but you telling this story is like you're opening yourself up for like you know the parenting shamers to come in and it's like every this is same thing with Matt and Abby right like everybody does their own like you cut corners oh I not everyone's perfect of course shut up about it but and like I'm sorry there's really no excuse like oh we're

tired we want to be alone girl you are literally so I wonder who's richer you or your husband like I literally don't know like hire a fucking babysitter yeah no or they had one and that's a part of the story that she's not including. And she's not sharing it, right. I actually think this share is crazier than Matt and Abby. Duh! I'm not seeing any backlash for this. I'm just seeing it like it's just, you know, classic press, Dax and Kristen, like parenting news. Like this is why people hate celebrities, like in an attempt to be like relatable, which is just, it's insulting.

Like, of course, even, you know, no matter how much money you have like being a parent is hard right but to even like try and compare what it's like for regular people it's so insulting and it really is like patronizing like talk about something else and this is why people hit celebrities you know because not only are you sharing in this like really patronizing way like what you're doing is insane if true yeah no that's really insane it's just like this is to me I roll central yeah like him and his huge podcast with his biggest pot of ideally probably they didn't even say he probably got like a hundred million dollars she's been in a million movies they are collectively the face of like uh may tag washing machines she's in every fucking commercial on the planet like stop I actually think they are like one of the most successful couples in Hollywood and they're pretty low in a non-traditional way and I think they like

do stuff like this so people forget like how much money that they have because I think they really profit and benefit from being seen as relatable they also have they have a baby care company that's great hello bello I have so much of their stuff like oh my god that's them that sunblock that I was using sunblock that you were using yeah using, yeah, it's like diapers. It's all baby goods. Oh my God. Like to me, this makes me sick. So they like really prosper from people seeing them as relatable parents.

So like the idea, yeah, going on vacation with your kids, it's not a vacation. It's just doing your parenting in a different city. That is true, but like that's what makes it fun and different.

No, and I'm sorry, like this is also like a bad story. Like this is setting a bad example because you should not do this. A foreign country where there's a language barrier of letting your kids go out by themselves, which she probably didn't. Like, I can't stress enough how, like, she probably had, like, an actual security guard tailing them the entire time, along with a nanny.

Oh, right, they're also, like, famous children. Right. Someone might see this and, like, think that it's, you know, like, look, they're the beacon of parenting. They own a parenting company. Like, if they did it, I can do it. Like, this is actually're the beacon of parenting. They own a parenting company. Like, if they did it, I can do it. Like, this is actually bad. Yeah.

Yeah. She said it was heaven. We just had coffee. We played spades. And then around three o'clock, we'd be like, anybody see them? And then one of them would run up and need a Band-Aid. And okay, if it was like an amusement park where you can look at your balcony and like it's a confined space, there's only so much you can go.

But this is a seven acre amusement park open to the public. Not funny. I'm not laughing. Ha ha laughing haha it's not funny it's not relatable like it's stupid and you're probably lying too yeah maybe perhaps like you're telling me you have all the resources in the world and like you wouldn't hire just someone to protect the things the thing you love most right there's someone to just go out with them like you don't want to wake up at 6 a.m. fine, but just to tail them. Right. So what's worse? They're lying to the American people. That's bad.

Or you actually did this shit. I actually don't know what's worse. Oh my God, this story is really bothering me. Yeah. Getting lit up. Yeah. I don't know. I just hate when somebody who loves pop culture, I hate when celebrities pop culture, like, I hate when celebrities, like, talk down and, like,

really try to pretend, like, that we all have the same problems. Like, we don't. Or, like, use that against us. Like, use our love for this sort of thing as, like, that they could just feed us anything. Because, yeah, like, being a parent is super, super hard. But having money makes it easier. And I think anybody who says it doesn't is a liar.

Like, having access to childcare makes it easier. Flying first class on an international flight or flying private however they flew like all and then you're and then on top of that you're a celebrity so you just get special treatment which makes your life easier traveling with two kids anyways like you get to cut lines and things like that like VIP treatment so please yeah please stop I think you said it all sister yeah are you ready for our fifth and final story? Oh, such, bidding is such sweet sorrow. Bidding farewell. What's that from, Heathcliff?

That is Heath, Shakespeare? Who uttered those immortal words, Heathcliff? Shakespeare? Yeah. Hamlet? Bidding is such, no wait, what did I say? Yeah, bidding is such sweet sorrow. Is that it?

Doesn't sound right. Bidding what? What's bidding? Yeah. Like bidding adieu sorrow. Is that it? Doesn't sound right. Bidding what? What's bidding? Yeah. Like bidding a do. Bidding. I bid you a do. Claudia, let's Google it.

Bidding is sweet sorrow. Nothing's even coming up in Suggested. Oh, did I just make this up? I like it. Maybe who uttered those immoral words? Turd spear. Okay. Parting is such sweet sorrow from Romeo and Juliet oh I actually read that one by the way to add that to the list like that was

a classic that everybody read yeah I feel like growing up it's like you know Romeo and Juliet like we're singing in a love story like maybe I should just read it when the time comes and you know I switched schools in the eighth grade and in my new school in the eighth grade we read Romeo and Juliet and I had read it in my old school in seventh grade like not me actually like on the first day of school I remember kids thinking I was like really smart and I wasn't but I would they were like you know what are the names of the two families and I was like Montague and Capulet I don't know what the fucking question was but you know what I mean yeah oh my god they were like oh look at this merit scholar you set the bar too high yeah and

then like you know and then they probably put you set the bar too high yeah and then like you know and then they probably put you in like the accelerated English class and all of a sudden you're like at the bottom and then I was like a part of this like scam that I just couldn't undo this web of lies yeah damn and it was reflected in my report card that year you played yourself yeah well our fifth and final story, Kesha is entering her independent era with the launch of her own record label called Kesha Records.

And she's got a new album set for 2025. So Kesha has announced that she's entered a new independent era with the launch of Kesha Records, which will be distributed globally in partnership with ADA. The singer, who has long been since signed to RCA and Kimo Sabe records, is slated to release a new album in 2025 as part of the deal, which denotes her first distribution deal

and the first time she's had ownership and creative control over her music. ADA will work hand in hand with Crush Music to oversee all marketing and promotion for her new album. That's great. I think that her relationship with Dr. Luke was really pushed on her by that label like she really was like this woman with no power and and labels are so toxic I have often thought that like Taylor's next move would be starting her own label because she is this um like machine and she has everything she does like she had to make a

documentary she didn't want to hire a production company she made her own like and I'm surprised that she hasn't done her own record label yet and I feel like Kesha would be literally be one of the first artists that she signed yeah because Taylor's been like so supportive of her and then like all the artists that she like brings up with her like Sabrina you know yeah I feel like she should do it I agree I feel like it also sounds kind of nightmarish because then like you became like you become like the big record executive that you hate and like at the end of the day you are working really hard for these artists you're giving them a lot so you take from them and then you become that person right but taylor's like always like talking about how like record companies and the streaming services like are so um what's the word i'm looking for

please help no like the advantage of the artist. Exploitative? Yeah, that's a good, that's not exactly what I was looking for, but yeah, they're so exploitative, especially off of, like, smaller artists

and they make you sign these things and they don't really pay you for your art and Taylor's, like, always making moves to, you know, benefit not only her standing

but all artists. Like, when she signed with Universal Music Group, she was like, I will sign with you but the rules that you're making for me have to be the rules

for all of your artists. Like, we want X, Y, and Z. So she's always been, like, an an advocate for artists I think the reputation era like opened up with a quote from like this woman who was like a famous advocate for artists rights and whatever so I have always thought that like that would be her next move yeah I just I think it's a lot a lot of work and and unless you're exploitative it's not a lot of money it's like unless it's a non-profit right but I love this for Kesha and I also love that she's not like it says she's an independent artist but she's doing it in collaboration with a bunch of companies which I think is good because

like as much as being an independent artist is like a really uh like it's a commendable thing it more often than not means no one's going to hear your music right right so it's like both options are sad right like being on a one's going to hear your music. Right, right. So it's like both options are sad, right? Like being on a big label but not owning your music. And like not getting paid your full worth. But also like doing it on your own without that big label. Like maybe people aren't going to hear it. It's not going to go where it would have gone

if you had the whole machine behind you. So I think this is a good fusion. I think Kesha is, Kesha's a hit maker. So I think she's just got to do Kesha and it will bear fruit. Well, that's what was so like interesting and like earth shattering about Chance the Rapper. He's probably like the only person

to ever make like the mainstream completely as an independent artist. Same with Frank Ocean. Is he independent? I thought so. I thought that's his whole thing. No, that's Chance the Rapper's whole thing. No, I think it's Frank Ocean's whole thing. Whole thing, I think.

Is Frank Ocean an independent artist? Yeah, he became. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Here are five famous independent artists who made it big all on their own. Thank you. Thank you. Five, Frank Ocean.

Four, Maya. She's an R&B soul singer. Chance the Rapper is number three. Okay, number two is Boyce Avenue. Who is that? They sing like one of Ben's like emo songs. Totally, I think I know them. Why are they number two?

Who's number one? Ugh. I won't even say his name. Poo poo. I hate this person. Like with every fiber of my being. I'll give you a clue. He wore a fake nose and pretended to be a Jew.

He's actually the worst person. Did you see what he did last week? He is actually the worst human being on the planet. And literally the fact that he's independent brings me such joy. He's not successful. I mean he seems like the type who's independent. He didn't have a choice. Like seriously who would want to work with him? didn't have a choice. Like, seriously,

who would want to work with him? Right, not by choice. Who would ever want to be associated with such an ugly human being? And I mean ugly on the inside. Like, truly, truly hateful. I fucking hate this person. I won't even say his name.

I will not even say his name. No, I completely agree. But he was literally just in the news this weekend. Yeah, we were just talking about him. We knew? Oh, in our group chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were.

Okay, moving on. You know who I always think is an independent artist, but isn't, but moves like one? Who? Zach Bryan. It's giving independence. Right? He came up out of nowhere.

He had all of these fans already. You know who is an independent artist? Who? Bonnie McGee. Do you know her? Queen. Independence Day. I am an American girl. Who? Bonnie McGee. Do you know her? Queen. Independence Day. I am an American girl.

No. No, no. Yeah. Hot blooded and I'm ready to go. I actually follow her on TikTok. She's like day in my life as an independent artist, like filming her music videos, producing everything on her own coin and like talking about, you know, the big hits that she's written as a American girl was when she was with a label

and obviously she wrote like so many of Katy Perry's biggest hits back in the day. She's really a queen. I fucking love her. Same. Are we independent artists? I feel like we're like Kesha. Like we started our own label,

but we work in partnership with a bigger label. We definitely have like the, I think independent artists like have a chip on their shoulder about the fact that they're independent and like we definitely have that. I think being independent artists like have a chip on their shoulder about the fact that they're independent. And like, we definitely have that. I think being an independent artist is a state of mind. I actually would beg to differ. It's like literally not.

I think we have that independent artist spirit. Spirit. Thousand percent. Like ain't no part of no big machine. We ain't no part of no big machine. Like we can't be bought. I mean, so not true. We absolutely could. The problem is no part of no big machine. Like we can't be bought. I mean, so not true.

We absolutely could. The problem is like our price is so high. It's so true. Like we have like a high self-worth. That's what it is. Priceless, baby. I am like officially losing circulation in my vagina. You know when you wear jeans and you cross your legs for too long,

like you actually have no blood flow, which I feel like is bad. L your fat losing circulation is bad turdy especially if there's like such a vital organ you know vitality um that's our show yeah no cap on that no cap on that i'm sad thank you guys so much for listening to the toast and light and warning show where we deliver the fast time stories you need to everybody's a friend but i'm wickedly talented we are oh little housekeeping announcement tomorrow's episode little town little house on the prairie little housekeeping announcement tomorrow's episode will be audio only and just apologies but it's what needs to be done apologies you won't see these gargi faces love ya excuse love ya i'm sorry bye