The Toast - Shattering The Glass Ozone: Tuesday, April 15th, 2025

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Claudia supports Michael Buble. Okay. Like we need to talk about that already. I was thinking it already. Should we just say that? Let's get into it. Oh wait. You have a piece of hair.

Where? Yeah, that. Good. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Tuesday. Yes, Jackie is slandering me before the show even begins, but it's not slander because it's 100% true. I am drinking, you know, I pretty much have a La Croix every day here, ever since like people asked me to stop drinking my iced coffee,

the ice was bothering them. I have a La Croix, and yesterday I went to place an order, and they didn't have La Croix, they said, "'Can we offer you bubbly?' "'Bub-lay?' And obviously like I need to drink, right? So I said yes, and I wasn't gonna go pick up the La Croix myself. So I'm drinking bubbly. Bubbly. And obviously like I need to drink, right? So I said yes and I wasn't gonna go pick up the La Croix myself.

So I'm drinking bubbly and I will tell you, like I pulled it out of the fridge this morning and I felt bad. You need to put a piece of tape over the logo. Give him no press. I love that. You have tape, but don't get up. Yeah, no I'm not getting up.

I'll do it tomorrow. For tomorrow. Today he can have a little shine. Thanks for calling me out. Yes, I am drinking a bubbly, but just know, it's not by choice. I'm merely a victim of circumstance. But are you liking it?

No, I also think it's an inferior beverage. Okay. La Croix will always be my number one seltzer. Tied with Pellegrino. Pellegrino in a can. Oh, Pellegrino, I like Pellegrino in any vessel. Sometimes I have the plastic bottle right here actually, and it just doesn't hold the bubble like a can.

Okay. And the cans are smaller, so like you don't have as much, like there's a lot in this plastic bottle, I don't drink it, and then it gets flat. If we're gonna go plastic bottle, we're gonna go perrier. I think that they do plastic much better. Sometimes like a good perrier going down the esophagus, like it burns, it's so bubbly.

I'm not a huge perrier person, like in a pinch sure, but I'll always prefer the groin. And in our house, we do call it groin. We call it pellet groino. Oh, I guess I didn't realize that wasn't a universal thing. Because we're so silly. Like I'll say to my husband, can you grab me it groin, we call it pelligrino. Oh, I guess I didn't realize that wasn't a universal thing. Because we're so silly. Like I'll say to my husband, can you grab me a groin?

Yeah, yeah, no, 100%. Do you want groin for dinner? Do you want groin with your dinner? I do. I always want groin with my dinner. Well, you know, I had heard that seltzer was a bladder irritant, so I've been trying to pull back. I hadn't heard that, I haven't heard that.

No, I heard that. So not that it's helped at all. I'm trying to give you a pass coach. Like take not that it's helped. Do you see that Caroline coach Niaki is in the news? Like for having been engaged to worry McElroy? Have you seen this part of his history? Yeah, of course. I brought it up yesterday. But not the woge. Yeah, I brought up Caroline waszniacki yesterday. You did? Yes, oh my God. That's just like so crazy.

That's like that law. What's that law where like when it rains it pours? Butterfly effect. Oh, like when you see some Mandela effect, is that it? No, like when you see something and then you start seeing it everywhere. Right, like I just started calling you like Cojers Wojers, Caroline Cojniacki last week

and now she's on the Daily Mail. Yeah, her name is Wojniacki, but I see what you're saying. Yes, they have a very sort of tortured past. He left her at the altar. Not really. They were engaged to be married and literally the second they sent out their wedding invitations, two days later he called off the wedding and he said it was like the invitations that really shook him to his core. And he like made a public statement about it too,

which was weird. She's obviously like so much better off without him. Her husband now is so fucking hot. And like honestly, Roy McElroy could never, David Lee could eat him for breakfast. He's like a thousand feet taller. So I'm happy for everything works out, but that was extremely uncool.

Sorry, Wojers. Yeah, not cool for Wojniacki. Not cool for the Wojers community. Well, we're doing okay. It's just the two of you. And you seem happy. We actually do follow each other on social media. We do follow each other on social media, me and Caroline.

You're lying. No, like she was one of the first like famous people to follow me. And I followed her back. And I've just like, I've been keeping up with her for many years. So she's got a great sense of humor. 1000%.

She's besties with Serena Williams. Well, we're gonna be talking about Serena Williams today. So why don't you table that? Okay, should I table how I wrote my college thesis on Serena or you wanna talk about that later? I think it might come up. Like I think it might be germane to the story about her. So just table it, if you will.

Great, great. Lots of book news today. Lots of book news. I watched some TV last night. I finished Kardashian's season six. Okay, so did I, except I have like half the finale left. So I guess I didn't finish it, but I caught up on a bunch of episodes.

Oh, let me tell you, I was cackling. Like it really is such a good show. It is so good. And I feel so many, a range of emotions when I watch it. I truly feel happy, I feel emotional. Something was happening on the finale that I was like, girl, don't cry. I can't remember what it was.

I got a little choked up about Amari. Oh yeah, that was really beautiful. And Chloe's just like, she's so special. Yeah, she is so special. I got choked up, I told you guys during Chloe's party, like just seeing her so happy, and especially when I thought the party was gonna be such a flop,

and like that's just the best feeling in the world. I love that they acknowledge that it's like the Chloe, Chris and Kim show. And then she was like, actually it's just just the Chloe Kim with the side of Chris show. You know what I think I was almost making me cry? Courtney on Skinny Confidential, when they were saying to Michael and Lauren, like it goes so fast.

Right, Mason's in high school. Mason's in high school. Mason. Mason. And then Courtney in the last episode was talking about slowing down her life because she really wants to like be in every moment and it's just emo.

Mison to Shambo. Mison, Mison Bissick. It's really a good show. Like I really have enjoyed watching it so much. And I've come to the conclusion that there's no way on earth that they all get paid the same. Like, I don't know why I've always said that they do. I had a similar thought.

But like Kylie goes to nothing. She didn't even do a solo interview. There's no fucking way that they get paid the same. And like weirdly Kendall shows up to everything. But provides very little. Yeah, she's trying, she's working. And you know what? I actually really appreciated her.

She was probably the most visible on this season than I've ever seen her. She did solo interviews, she went on her college tour. She was going to her sister's houses just to check them out. She was going to her sister's houses. She went to MJ's birthday party. Yeah, I remember when they were at E.

I believe they were open with us, that they all split it. When they got that huge deal with E, I remember it was on with us that like they all split it when they got that huge deal with E members on the cover of New York Post, a hundred million dollars, but there's no way. No, there's no way. And I think that Courtney used to split with them. And then she was always filming and she was always unhappy

because she didn't like the filming. And now if you're splitting, you have to. And so she would just show up and just be in a bad mood. And then they're talking about why she's in a bad mood. And she just like didn't like what she was doing. But now I think, especially with Travis being a breadwinner, like she doesn't have to work so much. And so she's not, I think at one point

she was making the same as Kim and Khloe and now she's definitely not. She's like checked out. And I think it really works, but it is funny. It's Kim and Khloe and Kris will go to anything. The fact that you went to Joshua Tree. Okay, I fucking love Kris. Kris is so underrated, they all clown on her so much.

I was cackling so hard at her leaving at two in the morning. I was also just cracking up at her whole vibe in, where were they, Joshua Tree? Watching them walk around Joshua Tree, Kim wearing cargo pants and like a big fuzzy. The bag. The bag. I actually like felt uncomfortable.

It was painful for me. Why does she dress like that? Like so unreasonable. She's always dressed for the wrong occasion. Yeah. It was making me sick. Chloe like biker shorts and a Lululemon tank. Like, thank you.

Yeah, Chloe. But then also I actually, Chris was dressed perfectly because she was covered from head to toe in her little trench jumpsuit. Yeah, very safari. Because I feel like they were gonna get bug bites. All of them just like hopping off that RV with their Birkins.

I just wanna say, I would take an RV trip with like the family. I think that would be really fun. I know you would. You would need no convincing. I know. It would be your idea. Like, I think we should do it.

You love RV because you love RV. I love the movie RV. I'm constantly influenced by RV, but I want to say my interest in this type of trip actually has nothing to do with RV. My favorite Robin Williams movie. It more so has to do with Don't Be Tardy. I want to say like season seven or eight

when they were like kind of grasping at straws. I think they knew their show was about to get canceled and they were like, just let's do some shit. They took all the kids on an RV around the, I think for the summer. It was so funny. They like stopped at casinos. That would be fun.

Like we would have the best time. I'm open just because of the kids. Like I'll do anything for them. They will love it. They will love it. But I need to sit up front with the driver. Oh, that's a great seat. Yeah, that's where Cheryl Hines,

that's where Cheryl Hines sits in RV. Yeah, that's where I'll be with my drama means. Gotta get your kicks. That would be us the whole time. On route 66. And Kristin Chenoweth is in that movie too. Are you talking about me started on my RV soapbox? Like it's star studded, Jojo, Cheryl Hines,

Robin Williams and Kristin Jenoweth. Yeah. And people always talk about Robin Williams' breath of work and they talk about Dead Poets Society and Patch or whatever that movie's called. And they don't talk about RV. And like, what I tell you, like the biggest belly laughs I've ever had in my life

are from that movie. That's funny. One of my other favorite movies does take place in an RV. And I feel like it doesn't get lumped into the RV category. We are the Millers. We are the Millers. We are the Millers. So, so good. Oh, and then we can like watch an RV movie every night.

Yay. No, I'm telling you, this sounds so much fun. We'll just have to like really invest in our good RV and like good, you know, like people to help. I think we need multiple RVs. Yeah. I think we need a lot of RVs. And also, how do you feel about

if we actually don't do a lot of driving? We kind of stay in one state, you know? And it just feels like we're on an RV trip, but we're not going the distance. As long as we're seeing beautiful things, I don't care. Like, let's do an RV trip through Utah. Arizona, yeah. And keep it small.

I'm fine with that. The real issue I have with RVs is that there's one master bedroom and then like six bunks. And when Chloe, I was like, there's no way Chloe is sleeping in that bunk bed. And she did, it's literally like a slat, a hole in the wall that you climb into. That she slept on the top bunk was really crazy.

And then Kim was in the bed. Well, she obviously got into the bed in the middle of the night or in the morning, like went looking for her mom and then just got in the bed. Cause she slept on the bottom bunk at first. Got it, got it, okay. And she wasn't in the bed in the middle of the night or in the morning. They went looking for her mom and then just got in the bed because she slept on the bottom bunk at first. Got it. Got it. And she wasn't in the bed when Chris left. Oh, Chris was in the bed. I understand.

Of course. Yeah. But that top bunk, no. What else did you watch? And then I watched Beverly Hills Part Two because tonight is part three. Oh, oh, you scared me. I was like, did I miss it? Yeah, no, no, no, it's tonight. So I just wanted to be caught up just in case I don't have time to watch like a ton of TV tonight. Oh, you scared me. I was like, did I miss it? No, no, no, it's tonight. So I just wanted to be caught up just in case I don't have time to watch like a ton of TV tonight.

Oh good, okay, yeah. So we'll watch part three tonight, putting an end to really like a kind of dreadful season, but I've enjoyed it nonetheless. I'm having fun. Yeah, the reunion has been really good. Doreen is killing it, like seriously killing it. And Sutton, once Jennifer Tilly said is Sutton

on like an anxiety medication, yeah, she seems altered. Not in a sense- Subdued. Yeah, and it is as if we get two Suttons even during the season, like one where she's like so fired up, so sassy, like ready to fight. And then this Sutton, she's definitely different in this reunion.

Yeah, maybe at this point when they had filmed it, she had seen some of the response to her behavior and was adjusting, I don't know. It looks like tonight she gets dragged by her hair for once and for all. It's so, I'm not wearing a watch, but it's time. It is time, so that was good. And then I'm all caught up on Paul American

if you are watching Paul American, then you're having the time of So that was good. And then I'm all caught up on Paul American. If you are watching Paul American, then you're enjoying, then you're having the time of your life like me. I started a new show and I, you know, I'm kind of in this phase where I'm like looking for a new comfort show ever since I started, stopped, finished Desperate Housewives. And I hate to come on here because I know that like the shows I'm talking about are people's favorites, right? Like Gilmore Girls, it didn't hit for me. And I'm watching Parenthood now. And it's also parents. And it's a show that I think we would like.

It's like a big family, four siblings who are all grown, married with kids and like the inter family, you know, cousin issues, work issues. And it also features Lauren Graham, who's Lorelai Gilmore. I'm really not enjoying the show and I would say most of it is because of her.

So I'm feeling maybe like the common thread isn't that I don't like these shows. Maybe I don't like Lauren Graham. Her character that she plays in both is very similar. You know, she's like a single mom. She's like a little crazy. Like, and I find her fucking insufferable. And I'm sorry, like I hate to be that person

because like I keep coming on here, like talking about shows that people love, people like die for parenthood. And Ben's loving it, I'm like hating it. Okay, maybe move on. I know but like I can't start fresh again. I started so many shows. We also started Friday Night Lights, Ben had never seen it.

Oh so good, but you don't want to watch Pole Dark? I don't even know what that is. I always am telling you about Pull Dark. You are? I feel like you're always telling me about Outlander. I didn't finish Outlander. It wasn't for me. That's really the shock.

You can't put me in a box because I didn't like Outlander. That's how you, and I made it well into season two. She went to France, can't put me in a box. So I watched that scene for nothing. For the lore. Coo, coo. Coo, coo, nothing. For the lore. Coo, coo. Coo, coo, coo, coo. Coo, coo, coo.

I feel like Ben when we do that, do you? Coo, coo, coo, coo. Right? I guess we did pick that up from Ben. Coo, coo, coo, coo. But Ben picks up things from us. Ben's walking around the house all day. You would love it.

You would love it. He's like, he's like, you'll like it. I was like, I'll what? He's like, you will like it. It's like, he's like, you'll like it. I was like, I'll watch. He's like, you will like it. It's like my new favorite toastism. Yeah. It's really amazing how the kids just like give us now a whole other bucket of content.

People don't realize actually you, you will love it. Also does come with a hand gesture. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see it goes a little bit like this. You will love it. It's very rabbinical actually. It is. Speaking of rabbinical, how's your journey with Chame?

It's been good. I made a matzah piece here yesterday. The issue with my journey is that I can't keep matzah in my house. Like it is flying off the shelves. I picked up a box from Olivia's yesterday because I didn't have any. I left her three slices because I'm nice.

And it was gone within the hour. Can I ask you a question actually? Is that a lot of matzah? Like, are we eating ask you a question actually? Is that a lot of matzah? Like are we eating too much matzah? Yes, that is a lot of matzah. Okay, I thought it should take you like days. Yeah, like yesterday or no, Sunday, I bought two boxes of egg matzah.

It's kind of not even through the first one. Oh, well we're four. Yeah, me and Ben, I mean, I'm two. And now the kids are demanding a huge sheet of it. Like they don't want it in pieces. They don't eat the whole sheet, but like they won't take it another way. Let me ask you a question because in my opinion,

one of the best ways to enjoy matzah is matzah with like nice, delicious, good salted butter, but it's so impossible to spread without breaking. How do you butter your matzah? So I break it with the butter, but if I had a little more patience, I would wait for the butter to get soft one. Yeah.

Or use butter spray, but I don't use chemicals. So I've been using butter spray. I can't believe it's not butter spray. Actually, fun fact about me is I use a lot of butter spray. I love it on my corn on the cob. Just I can't believe it's, there has to be butter spray that's made of real butter. I know. So it's like, it's something,

it's actually a true guilty pleasure. I know it's so bad for me, but it's obviously delicious. It's more so the mechanism. It's so convenient. It's the ease. It's the ease, it's the functionality of it. I'm gonna go to the store and look for spray on butter. That's just like, Kerrygold spray. I know they have like spray,

like Kerrygold doesn't fuck with that. Like they have spray on butter like for popcorn, but that's different. It's all sounds yucky. I know, I just love spray on butter. There's gotta be a better way, but definitely soft butter, like melted butter, try that. Yeah, but my butter sits in the fridge.

So yeah, you're right. I have to plan my snacks an hour in advance. I don't have that kind of patience. Do you have a butter holder thinger? No. I do. What butter holder thinger? No. I do. What is that thing you're called? Butter dish?

Butter dish? It's time to bust mine out. I got you one, right? Yeah, I don't use it, but now I will this week for sure. It's such a great thing to have if you're consistently using it. If you're a daily butter user. Right, if not, it just doesn't solve the problem

because it sits in the fridge. Or it goes bad on your just like doesn't solve the problem because it sits in the fridge. Or it goes bad on your counter. Correct, no you're supposed to put it in the fridge at night, take it out in the morning. Oh is that what they say? It's a full time job, yes. Oh my God, I'm too lazy. You can't leave it out all day,

that's like the butter will go bad. Refrigerate at night and then like when you have your coffee take it out so throughout the day people can use it sparingly and then put it back in the fridge. It's literally like a full time thing. Like maybe when I'm 50, I'll start doing that. Yeah, when we're retired. Yeah, like when I have time on my hands.

It's really crazy. But it does sound like if you were to get on like a really good schedule with it, like it would be life-changing. I could just see myself falling asleep and being like, I didn't put the butter in the fridge. That's like me with my starter. Like any task that I have late at night,

it kind of falls through the cracks. Right, right. But see, you've made it such a priority that like it matters a lot to you. That's how you have to be with the butter. But because you're already up late at night, like with your starter in the kitchen, you might naturally be able to move the butter

into the fridge. Try it. I will try it for this week at least for Passover. Because if it works, you would love it. You will love it. I love you. Oh, also I'm assuming we're gonna talk more about the ass and astronauts.

We are, we have more to discuss. Good, because actually I've had a bit of a change of heart. Okay, can you save it for the stories? I can. Can we get into the stories? We can. Because now without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know. And the fast five stories that you need to know

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That's JolieSkinco.com slash toast. Thanks, Zouge. You're welcome, Zouge. Our first story, more updates are coming out from the Blue Origin all-female rocket ride. I don't even, we can't call them the astronauts. They're not astronauts. They weren't crew.

They didn't do anything. They were passengers. Oh yeah, that's like a really good call. What were they? Passengers. Okay. On their ride in the rocket. So who was operating the rocket?

Someone down on the ground. It was computer operated. A man, okay. 1000% a man. Got noted. But we do need clarification. I do think if it was a woman, they would have shared that tidbit.

Obviously. But it better have been a woman. Otherwise, like this is not a boy. I'm sure it was like a whole team of the Blue Origin peeps. Like, you know, they sit in the control room, like in hidden figures, men and women. It should have been a whole team of women in the room. And then do you think they still would have gone?

Obviously. Would they have come home is the question I'm getting. No. That sounds really scary. Yeah, of course. No, I'm good. I want the best and brightest. I don't care who it is, you know? Right, no, course, no. I'm good. I want the best and brightest. I don't care who it is, you know?

Right, no, no, like it's my life. I don't care if you have a penis or vagina, vagina, or penis. Me too. I don't care if you have both. Like, seriously, get me home safe. No, it's so true. Oh my God. Now, excuse me. That just gave me a fright.

Literally, it chilled down my spine. There's been a lot of backlash. Like obviously we've been clowning on these bitches for weeks and everybody's sort of just now joining us. We were doing it when it was like not said yet. It was still not popular press darling thing to do. Who's going to have an issue with women going to space and breaking barriers and literally shattering

the glass ozone. And Gail King, she's sort of this media princess. Like she's, America loves her. Like nothing she does gets backlash. So I'm sure this is new territory for her. Yeah, and Lauren is definitely more familiar with backlash, but like she is marrying the most powerful man in the world. Like if you're a person who can't like in media,

like you don't want to piss this lady off. That's not a person you want to piss off. I also don't think Lauren is immune to like internet beef and people clouding on her. I think this was really new for Gail and some of the other unknowns. Yes. Oh yeah. The unknowns are just like, you know,

they're in lives of service and they're not getting, like when we talk about like the other three. We're talking about Katy Perry. What do you mean? But it's literally all Katy. We don't even know their names really. I know a little bit of their names, but we don't even say their names on this show.

So like they can go on to do other things. And like, we're not always gonna be like, and they were on the flight. Right, unaffected mostly. I think they'll be able to still do great things. But like, this is something that we'll thought, Katy Perry is taking the brunt of all of it. But she's also the reason,

she's also the reason why there's so much hate. Like she's just, I feel super connected to love right now. Here are things Katy Perry did in space and afterwards. Katy Perry saying, what a wonderful world during the rocket ride, the women said. I believe on the way down.

They said, they had been asking her to sing like this whole time. I don't know if they meant like the whole time in this capsule or like since they all got together, they've been wanting her to sing. I don't believe that they were all asking her to sing. I don't believe it. That's what Gail said.

Like we wanted her to sing and she wouldn't sing and then when we went up there, she sang what a wonderful world. Like, and that was really beautiful. I don't believe that. She teased the set list for her Lifetime's tour in the castle. And nobody moved.

No, and it actually had to be explained that that's what, cause she held up a butterfly that had words on it into the live stream and then it flew away. And apparently the words on it were the set list for the Lifetime's tour. Yeah. She brought a daisy with her as an homage to her daughter and then like brought the daisy back home and and then she kissed the ground.

But let me tell you something about these women, because I do feel like they are immune to all this criticism right now because they are in such a high like the way that Lauren Sanchez described, like coming back down to Earth she just like wants to give everyone a hug. Like we're all one people when you see things at a glance like they did world at a glance and it was really powerful for them. And I could imagine feeling that way

having gone to space for 10 minutes. Like seeing the earth, like that's a very powerful thing. Of course, no, it's kind of like when you go to Europe and then you come back and you think you're like too good forever on, you know? Yeah, no, but it's, I don't know. It's like, it's something like it's in the cosmos. It's existential, it's existential.

It's like close to godliness. Like so few people in human history have seen the world at that vantage point. Like there's something very powerful about it that is getting lost in all of this miscegasse. And usually you earn that through space exploration and advancements in science, like not just for kicks, but like they're not even hearing what we're all saying

because they are on such a high right now that you can only experience from seeing the world at a glance. So it sounds like you two are having a bit of a change of heart. Let me tell you why I'm having. And because now it's popular to clown on them. And you know us.

I don't like that. No, and what I don't like is like when I saw first of all, like we talked like a week or two ago about Olivia Munn clowning on them and I was like, damn, because she was like us, nobody was saying these things, right? It was kind of brave. But now everyone's it's easy to join the like hate bandwagon. And I saw two things that kind of made me like switch my POV.

I saw two outspoken women, Emily Ratajkowski and Olivia Wilde, like clowning on this. Emily Ratajkowski has been like leaving comments on TikToks. Basically the messaging from both of them being like, this is so stupid. Wasteful. Wasteful, there are people, Kim, there's people that are dying basically.

And I don't know, I don't wanna, I don't feel right fighting myself on the same side as Olivia Wilde and Emily Ratajkowski because I feel like when I'm always talking about like toxic women, like feminism, like herstory, I'm literally talking about Olivia Wilde. Like whenever I'm talking about the toxic, like whatever brand of feminism where it's like,

you're a feminist, but you literally hate women, I'm literally talking about Olivia Wilde. She's always- And like Emily Ratajkowski. Yes, they are the two people I am always thinking of in my brain, mostly Olivia Wilde, Shia, Shia, Shia, Shia. Like, oh, I'm the first woman director. I'm the first woman, woman, woman.

Meanwhile, you're begging an abuser to come while the girl is like, please stop. Like, I'm literally referring to Olivia Wilde when I talk about toxic feminism and Emily Ratajkowski is not far behind. So the fact that they're on this side, I gotta switch. Yeah, I have to switch. And I will say like this brand of feminism

of the Blue Origin flight is a different, it's not the toxic. Corny. It's like the Barbie movie feminism, like. Corny. Corny, little cringe, harmless. Harmless. Harmless.

I think that the Olivia Wilde brand of feminism is actually harmful. Harmless. Harmless. Harmless. I think that the Olivia Wilde brand of feminism is actually harmful. Harmful. Yeah, so once I saw that she was like echoing some of my sentiments, I had to change my sentiments. Yeah, I agree, I've come full circle. And also remind me at the end of the year, in case I forget, this is one of my top five stories of the year.

Like nothing will mean so much. Like it's fucking hysterical. And also they did, they went to space. Like we can't not talk about the fact that like they saw the moon, like the earth, even though they are being like so cringe about it. Like that is an experience that so few people will ever get to have, especially common people

who didn't like wait their whole life, except for the one, there was one girl who's on the. Yes, she was like a space person. No, and there was another girl who is like a civil rights activist, but she had dreams of being an astronaut that she had to put on hold because she was raped. And then she dedicated her life to like fighting, like to writing new law that was passed, like to help victims.

So, oh my God. Yeah. Like passed, like to help victims. So- Oh my God. Yeah, like there is- See like that's getting lost here. It's getting lost. It's a night, it's, it's, it is. I was relieved to see like little to no footage of them like putting on lashes and glam.

Maybe that was like more of a joke they were making. I thought they were actually gonna be like applying their lipstick in space. I thought that they were, like now I'm thinking that maybe they thought their lashes would be like taken off by gravity. Right, right. But they were gravity defying lashes.

Which is a dumb thought, yeah. Okay, I liked that Blue Origin, I'm being positive now. Oh, do you like that Jeff Bezos tripped? Yes, okay, so I liked that they had a lot of footage of the whole thing, they had live stream cameras inside, they were obviously all mic'd because we had a lot of audio that video of them like descending before the parachute blows up. It's obviously they just are free-falling. It's like when you're, if a plane just drops out of the sky and it's terrifying and you just hear the five women fucking screaming at the top of their lungs like shrieking.

It is unbelievably hysterical, like bad for women, but hysterical. I thought we got so many funny moments. Jeff like greeting the pod as they landed on earth and then falling in a ditch. Like you can't make this stuff up. Like you couldn't write something so funny. So you know what? You know what they put the ass in astronaut.

I love it. They did after everything they did. After all is said and done. I'm here for it. Yeah, it's given me so much joy. I hope I won another trip. Yeah, I think we could do better casting wise. I definitely, Katie brought a lot of the criticism

just because she, criticism follows her. She's a heavily criticized figure and not for no reason. I just want to say that. Yeah, I think if it had been someone. A little bit more well-respected. Yeah, who even? Think of a pop star of like her elk, like Kesha. Lady Gaga.

Kesha's- That's not very kind of you to say Lady Gaga is of the same elk as Katy Perry. At one point they were. Yes. Do you think Katy Perry could headline Coachella? Like would she be, like right now. She just might be a little too like commercial

for like Coachella to select her, but she's definitely got the hits. Kesha is weirdly involved in this also. Did you see the Wendy's drama? Oh, that's not drama to me. I thought that was fake. Why did Wendy's reply that? I know that their whole stick is being like snarky

on Twitter. I think it had literally nothing to do with Kesha and just like brands wanting to get involved. Yeah, I thought that was not cool. That was like when that Meri-val like tweeted about Tom Sandoval, like stop it. They tweeted about, what did they say? Like, so along the lines of the same joke

that's been running around on the internet. We should have left Katie in space. Yeah, and I just feel like that's weird from a fast food company. I agree. And any company in general, like, you wanna kill her? You wanna kill Katie Perry? It's funny when we say it.

You wanna kill her. You can't say that shit. So you wanna kill Katie Perry. Great, and then apparently Kesha posted drinking a Wendy's. And I think they're completely unaffiliated. And if anybody's wondering, I had a soda from Wendy's on Sunday. What does that mean? I can't tell you.

But do you have a soda from Wendy's after they said that they wanted to kill Katy Perry? No, but I knew that they would be involved in this astronaut drama. And so I bought a soda to support. I just want to say, like usually Wendy's crushes it on social media. I didn't like that.

I didn't like it either. It gave me like an icky weird feeling. It is. So you're killers? Right. Is that what Wendy's promotes? Killing? Of women who are out here achieving their dreams?

I want to get the exact tweet just to put a... Like a bow on it. They said, can we send her back? just to put a... Like a bow on it. They said, can we send her back? Okay, that's better than can we leave her. Can we kill her? We made it worse. But send her back like with what provisions? Everyone's already mad that they spent so much.

Provisions, yeah. Like is she a big Timothee Chalamet backpack full of snacks? No, and everyone's already mad that they wasted so much money on this. So like you're gonna send her in her own capsule with enough food for a lifetime. Right, so Wendy, you are suggesting. Otherwise you're gonna kill her.

And we pollute the earth even further. And we send Katy Perry into space with nothing but a granola bar. That's what they're suggesting. And then they're gonna kill her. Well, that's sort of inferred, you know? Yeah, so like on this one, like Olivia Wilde and Wendy's are not on the same side Well, that's sort of inferred, you know? Yeah. So like on this one, like Olivia Wilde

and Wendy's are not on the same side because they're advocating for spending more money, more resources. Yes, yes. No, I just, and like, Olivia Wilde doesn't chime in on things. Yeah. So it's not very feminist of you,

I just want to say to like not ever chime in on shit. And the first thing you're like posting an Instagram story about is a clowning on a bunch of women who are, you know, good nature. Like they think they're doing something good. It's like stupid. But like- Well, I think for Olivia Wilde, like she feels defensive of feminism

and that this is being billed as a feminist endeavor. Right, she's protective. She feels the need to let them know, like you're not welcome here. Well, I have one thing to say to that. Shia, Shia, Shia, Shia. Yeah. We saw the real Olivia Wilde

and I've seen all I needed to say. Also, Amy Schumer was joking about this as well. She said, guys, last second, they added me to space and I'm going to space. She held up a Black Panther toy saying, I'm bringing this thing. It has no meaning to me, but it was in my bag and I was on the subway and I got the text

and they were like, do you wanna go to space? So I'm going to space. Thank you to everyone who got me here. I'll see you guys in space. That's what this group was missing, a funny person. Yeah. Like to really have brought it back down, make it a little bit more relatable

and palatable for America. They needed a funny woman on there. But Amy Schumer would have gotten just as much if not more hate than Katy Perry. Yeah, she's also a heavily criticized person. Like I need to think of who, who is like America's funny person that everybody loves. That has to be a woman.

Nikki Glaser. Yeah, she would have been great, but like not a household name yet. No, we need Joan. Like that is something I would watch. Immune to criticism. Joan on Blue Origin. She would never.

Never. Blue Origin. She would have never. No, and that's why she's a queen. Yeah, I'm surprised Meghan Markle, there are a couple of people where I'm like, oh, did you go to space? No, no, no, but you're the vibe.

Like Meghan Markle. It's very Montecito. Kim. Kim. And people who are friends very Montecito. Kim. Kim. And people who are friends with Lauren Sanchez. Yeah. And Kim. That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah.

Which is Katie. Katie Kat. Well, hopefully this story keeps unraveling. I hope this isn't the last we discuss of it. And I hope that they think that this is a success and then they do it again. I want more. Who's going next?

Yep. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Little book news because Serena Williams is executive producing Carrie Soto is Back by Taylor Jenkins Reid. It is a tennis drama series in the work at Netflix. So Carrie Soto is back.

Oh, a series. Yeah, it's a book by Taylor Jenkins Reid, TJR, Seven Husbands, Daisy Jones. I can't believe this is getting made before Seven Husbands. I know, but they're trying to kill Seven Husbands. They're trying to send them into space. They are. They're trying to send them into space.

Yep. But Netflix has taken in for development Carrie Soto, a series adaptation of TGR's bestselling tennis-themed book. Fittingly, tennis greats, Sweeney Williams is set to executive produce the project from fifth season in picture start and a bunch of other industry terminology.

I don't feel like Netflix has a great track record with book adaptations. I think Amazon does it really well, The Summer I Turn Pretty, Daisy Jones in Six, Hulu has done it well, Little Fires Everywhere, Big Little Lies on Max, I don't know, Netflix- Tell me lies. Tell me lies, thank you. Netflix. I can't. Tell me lies.

Tell me lies, thank you. Netflix, I can't think of a good one. I think they did a great job with Luckiest Girl Alive. I don't think they did a good job with The Perfect Couple. I'll never admit it. Do you agree though, come on. Yeah, that one I didn't. They don't have, so I have very low hopes for this

only because of Netflix's involvement. How is it, how is that? I know, cause it's made by different production companies and what does it have to do? And they just like buy it. So maybe it's just like bad luck. No, I know, but they stink. I know, but maybe it's just coincidence.

Maybe, hopefully. And honestly, Serena Williams being a part of it is brilliant. When you're reading the book, there's clearly so many things that are inspired by Serena. The author said, my incredible respect for the Williams sisters

is part of what makes me interested in tennis in an interview during the time of the book's release 2022. I wouldn't write a book about tennis without the influence of just the absolute glory that has been their journey, but also specifically Serena's quest to get as many Grand Slam titles as she is ready to do. So that's very similar to Carrie Soto,

like does not care about being well liked, just like interested in being the greatest. The book was not my favorite. Same. Mostly because like reading about a tennis match, like ping, ping, poom, and then he hit it to the corner and she hit it to the volley. I don't want to read that, but definitely sounds like a better TV show.

Yes, it was not my favorite book either, but I do think like a niche sport, like people love. I think it would be a good TV show if done right. I just cannot believe that like of all the things Taylor Jenkins-Rey has like gone viral for, this is the one that's getting picked up first. It was, it's one of her successful books, but it's not even close to her most.

At this point, any book that she writes will be successful. Like Malibu Rising was successful. I found it incredibly forgettable. Yes, agreed. Same with Carrie Soto. She's at a level now where all of her books are huge hits because of the ones that came before. But the only one that's really missing is,

is Seven Husbands because Daisy Jones, crushed. Was made crushed. Got the treatment you could only dream of. True. So we're just waiting for Seven Husbands cause what else is missing? She has other books, but like it's not obvious things. She does, I think One True Love was like one of her biggest

before even. But that's like not like one of these that's like historical fiction characters. No, no, no, no. It's not. But it's actually, it's a crazy book. Have you read it? No.

She's married. She has like this amazing marriage and her husband, he goes like hiking or something, I don't know. And he never comes back. He like dies, he's pronounced dead. And so she's like absolutely devastated. She moves on with her life. Years later, she finally meets someone, this great guy, Sam.

They're engaged. And all of a sudden, her husband is found. He's been like living on an icicle for like five years. And he comes home being like, give me some shit. And the whole book is like, what does she do? And like her current fiance is like very supportive. And he, the husband's like mad being like,

are you kidding me? Like I literally like, like fought a polar bear and lived on an icicle to get back to you. And like, you're over here fucking this guy. And so it's like, which one will she choose? It's actually a good premise for a book. Do you want to know who she chooses? Thrupple?

No. Does she make a choice? She does, which I really appreciate. It doesn't just end with- It's not herself. And the future is bright. Jackie, she makes a choice and it's not herself. It's a person.

She does, okay, thank you. Yeah, I won't spoil it, but it's actually a very good book. Okay. I'm not going to read it now though, cause you just like told me everything. So you could- I did, yeah. If you want. You could. No, I'm not going to read it now though, cause you just like told me everything. So you could- I did, yeah. If you want.

You could. You want to- No, I don't want to spoil it for the listeners. Like you guys should read it. You want to text it to me? Yeah. Who do you think she chooses? New husband.

I know she's supposed to choose old, but I think she chooses new. I texted it to you. Interesting. Yep. Just something a Chio. Interesting. Yep, just something to think about. Well, this should be good. And tennis is really having a moment in terms of aesthetics.

And I think that if done right, they should have Paige Loren's creative direct the show. 1000%. Because this could blow up the whole industry. At the very least, invite her to the premiere. Well, of course, but she should be a consultant on the show. She has the tennis eye. The aesthetic, yeah.

Right? It should be shot like that. She should vlog the show. And Challengers was a hit. You love Challengers. I actually did not like Challengers. I thought it was the biggest waste of my time. People loved it.

I couldn't believe it was nominated for any Oscars. A true testament to how far the Oscars have fallen. Yeah, but no, tennis is definitely a vibe right now. Are you ready for our next story? White Lotus star Amy Lou Wood is crying in public. Yeah, it's a little misleading because everybody saw her crying in public. The paparazzi caught her.

They're like, she's upset about SNL because we literally were just talking about that. And she clarified on her Instagram. She was like, no, I wasn't. No, I didn't think she was upset about SNL, because we literally were just talking about that. And she clarified on her Instagram. She was like, no, I wasn't. No, I didn't think she was crying about SNL, but they just went off of the things that they know, which is that she was upset yesterday about SNL and today she's crying.

But she's setting the record straight, clarifying why she really was crying after the paparazzi caught her sobbing in public, which is just never how you want to be seen by the world in the big week of your life. No, I know. And it's like, you leave the house looking fabulous so many times, and the paparazzi catches like the big week of your life. No, I know. And it's like, you leave the house looking fabulous so many times and the paparazzi catches you

the one time you're crying. She said, I actually wasn't crying about anything that the papers made out. I was crying about something completely unrelated, she said. Okay, I believe her. Yeah. But there's a lot going on with her and Walter and everything, every story we have about her,

whether it's the SNL or the Instagram stuff, it's making me believe what I'm hearing, you know? Yeah, but I really, I don't think for one second she's crying in public about SNL. Like I think- No, no, no, no. Like, but why are you crying in public? Like, not that you can't, I mean,

regular people do it all the time, but like you're, this is really one of the biggest few weeks of her life on the heels of White Lotus. She's like constantly followed, like crying in public is always just like, are you okay? Like we're gonna worry about you. Not to make everything about me, but just like a personal anecdote

that I do feel is relevant here is last White Lotus season. I think it was like a Friday night, they air on Sundays. And on Friday night, I went out to dinner with Megan Fahey who played Daphne, who was like in the White Lotus season. Everyone was just like the most fabulous character. Everyone was obsessed with her. And when I tell you, we went out for dinner and I've never seen somebody get like looked at more.

And we got like a private members club. So like nobody was asking for pictures, but like it was so crazy to be in the restaurant. Was that hard for you? No, I was like living for it. Like everyone was staring at us. I'm like, oh yeah, Megan, I know her for years. Like, did you get a picture of you guys, like intended to do? Oh, so fucking true. Next time you got to take her to Times Square.

Summer Public, Target, yeah. It was so, I've never seen, and I like, not to be annoying, like I've been around famous people before, but like it was insane. The waiters, everybody was whispering it. So that's what Amy Lou what is currently experiencing. And like, you're right, like you have to know better. Like you have to, you have to act. So that's what Amy Lewood is currently experiencing.

And you're right, you have to know better. You have to act. Right. Unless you want us to know that you're crying in public, in which, in case this is a ploy. So the internet's, and the blinds, the consensus is that allegedly these two had some sort of onset affair.

He is married, his wife found out, forced Walton to block her and ignore affair, he is married. His wife found out, forced Walton to block her and ignore her and that's the reason why all of her likes have gone on, liked on his pictures and this is the fallout of that brief affair. And she's heartbroken. I guess. Well, maybe they didn't even have an affair.

Maybe she like had a serious crush on him and the wife is there like, no. Scram. Yeah, cause I think if he had an affair, like why would crush on him and the wife is there like, no. Scram. Yeah, cause I think if he had an affair, like why would she be so forgiving the wife? Well, he's a star, you know. Today. No, he's like, he's on Righteous Gemstones too.

I saw his architectural digest, he has a nice house. Definitely. I saw his architectural digest as well. Definitely you can forgive some stuff. Yeah, right. And he's also on Righteous Gemstones, which people are obsessed with. You should watch that.

I started it, I didn't like it. I also, I think something we need to talk about is a very smart thing that Max did is that so many, not so many, but like a couple of their key characters who people are obsessed with right now are Max stars, right, like Carrie Coon is the Gilded Age, Walter Goggins is Righteous Gemstones, it was actually like a very smart, synergized moment.

Yeah, good call. Well, get better, Amy. Yeah. Our next story is seriously disturbing. You're gonna hate it. Oh my God, what? But there's been a bit of an update in the Gene Hackman and wife death

in developments at their home. So dead rodents were found at Gene Hackman's home during a risk assessment for the virus that killed his wife, Betsy. So it has now been determined that Betsy died of natural causes linked to hantavirus pulmonary syndrome caused by hantavirus, which is a virus that is transmitted via rodent droppings and urine.

So they did like an environmental survey of his property. Rodent- So what they were like living in filth? Yes, rodent feces were found in three detached garages, two casitas and three sheds during a home site environmental assessment conducted in March. A live rodent, dead rodent and a rodent nest were also found in three garages on the property. Risk assessment testing was carried out on March 5th. They had said that there wasn't rodents in the main house, in the primary house. However, the report found that rodents had access

to eight other buildings on that property. There were also rodent sightings in two vehicles, as well as live traps elsewhere on the property. So she contracted this virus that led to her untimely death because they were living in some sort of squalor. I believe, or because they had like a rodent infestation that they didn't handle. And then he died.

And then she is his caretaker. So then he died several days later from a combination of severe heart disease, high blood pressure and Alzheimer's, you know, maybe the Alzheimer's had him not taking his medication. Probably stopped taking his meds. Oh my God, what a fucking terrible story. Terrible.

Like there's always like a few updates about it. Like, you know, they were found mummified, like just these awful things. And it just gets worse and worse. Oh, and he's in that house for a couple of days, so confusing, his wife is dead. And he has children. Well, I think that's a question a lot of people ask.

Like, how does nobody check in on your elderly father? Right. And it's like, not only like he died several days later and then lay there dead for two weeks. And then he was found. Right. Nobody called. Oh my God.

So terrible. So terrible. I feel like vomiting. In the words of the great, great late Gene Hackman, I feel like vomiting. He didn't even know. Like I knew that like living in filth wasn't good for your health, but I didn't know that you could actually contract a virus and die. Yeah. So, very sad. Very disturbing.

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Thanks, Wojtela Koj. You're welcome. Our fifth and final story, Matisse Yahoo is making a little news. and final story, Matisse Yahoo is making a little news. What? Yeah, Matisse Yahoo shared a beautiful story on his Instagram. I think to tie in with Passover,

because he shared a video of himself singing his song One Day, and then he shared some backstory, a little beautiful backstory from the song. He said, guess what super famous singer wrote this song with me? And you know One Day, right? One day. Well, my life I've been waiting for,

I've been praying for, for the people to say. And if you guys like don't know who Matty Sahu is, don't feel bad. But he's like kind of a core. They know that one song, but he is like the first, last and only successful Jewish rapper. Actually Drake is Jewish.

Like religious Jew. Yeah, he raps about like Judaism. He's like a huge figure in our community. And that song one day years ago was a huge hit. Yeah, so now he's telling a little backstory behind the song that I think you'll find shocking. Just wait, and I just want to see if he had one other song. Oh, King Without a Crown.

That's pretty popular, right? It's not. I think it is. Who wrote it? Bruno Mars co-wrote One Day with Me, he said. He said- Of course he did. Here's the story. I had turned in my Light album,

which was based on the Seven Beggars story of Rabi Nachman. There was a new label head- Okay. What album is it? There was a new label head at Epic Records. And when I turned it in, she said there were no hits. She asked if I'd been willing to record two more. She was right.

She asked if I'd be willing to record two more songs. I had been working on the album day and night for a year, but I told her I was willing. I had just been on tour with an artist from Canada named, how do you pronounce this guy? Knaan Kanan? He sings Waving Flag. K-N-A-A-N.

Yeah, Knaan. Okay. No, whatever. Who had been playing a song called Waving Flag? I told her, okay, it's a girl. I told her I wanted to write and record with whoever helped him with that song and flew out to LA the next day.

Okay, no, Knaan is a man. Okay, Jackie, just get to the story. I told Bruno who wrote Waving Flag. I wanted- I didn't know that either. Yeah, I wanted a no woman, no cry peace anthem and we went to work. At some point I left to get dinner,

which had to be kosher, so the other side of town. When I came back, Bruno had pretty much rewritten most of the tune and though I was already moving past my Chabad stage of messianic reality and into the Nahman ideas of God's madness permeating the world. I knew it was undeniable. Moshiach now, may we burn up our egos like Chamedes

and find fulfillment in humility, our Matzah. Break out of Mitzrayim and learn from Moshe instead of Pharaoh. A hard heart is the path to suffering, peace and love, and may God, may the God of Israel set us all free. May our hostages come home to their loved ones and our enemies leave their hard-hearted ways or be destroyed like Pharaoh. So Bruno Mars wrote one day, thank you so much for that.

In a tribute to Passover, we learned that Bruno Mars wrote one day. I had no idea that Bruno Mars was like doing the work before, because that's way before he got famous. That song came out when we were like in middle school. Yeah, that he was songwriting for other people. He was definitely doing his other songs. He like had some duets, right?

Like- What did he like start doing? Like, did he have a song with B.O.B.? Remember that guy? Who didn't have it? Of course, Taylor Swift. Nothing on you. They ain't got nothing on you baby.

Nothing on you baby. They might say hi. Yeah. If you like- I mean it makes sense like when you're supremely talented like that like there are certain people like see ya. You know? You were always finding out like hit songs

that they had a hand in. Yeah. So I thought this was a beautiful story. And Bruno, and like, that's really an anthem for like peace and love and that. It's so Bruno. Rudy himself wrote it while Matizia who was out getting kosher dinner, hysterical stuff. I like how he has like make himself a victim in the caption.

I had to go across town. That's so Jewish. It's like, you could have gotten it delivered. Or like you're in a studio at Epic. They would drive Jackie, there just wasn't Uber Eats. No, and like you could have gotten like one of the PAs to go get you lunch. Like he's just a victim, sorry.

I think? Yeah. I think this is sort of a calling to highlight the lack of kosher restaurants. In Canada. In Canada. Let's dive into Dear Toaster's, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help out three swirlies in need.

What? Nothing. Just out of breath or like I'm gonna, like this is disturbing stuff. No, no, the former. Okay, maybe we'll help out two swirlies in need. It's getting so hard for me to like do things. Do you wanna email it to me?

Just give me a second. Just email it to me. Do you think that maybe we could table it? Like I'm really not feeling good. Yeah, I'd be happy to. Like I did the fast five, like I'm really not okay. I think- Like I'm fine, I'm fine you guys. I just like, it's-

It's too much. It's too much for me. Like I'm really, like I have to go to the bathroom. I think you have to listen to your body and all of us globally have to listen to your body as well. Thank you so much for listening to me. And I have invites waiting for me. So I gotta go.

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