The Toast - Showing Up For Ourselves In A Meaningful Way That We Can Be Proud Of: Wednesday, March 26th, 2025
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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast.
It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts.
It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.
We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast.
They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. I sound amazing.
Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday.
It is hump day.
And I literally feel like a humpback whale.
So things I did that, hey, Jack, it's your turn.
She's celebrating.
She's on brand.
Hey, Turteloo, I'm doing good.
I didn't even realize it was hump day
because like my week is split in two
because today I'm traveling.
It's a travel day.
Hence why I look the way I do.
I'm not even wearing shoes.
It's just a mess.
She's so crazy.
And I'm getting my haircut tonight.
So I didn't do my hair.
So it's just like one of those like travel day episodes
where Chris Appleton comes in and tells you you're ugly.
Yeah, I do want to say like upon seeing you this morning,
like I thought you looked totally beautiful.
Oh my God, thank you.
I mean, I did like do all my makeup and like,
it's like I brushed my hair and put it in a bun.
I guess, I don't know.
It's the lack of shoes that's throwing me off,
but I'm able to sit crisscross applesauce
and I'm cozy as heck.
I don't wear shoes all the time on the show.
Like as long as you're wearing socks, you're in the clear.
By the way, I will never know what's going on with your feet
cause I can't see your feet. No, but when I, yeah, I will never know what's going on with your feet because I can't see your feet.
No, but when I, yeah, I guess.
I also have a busy day kind of preparing for your arrival.
I have a lot of things I need to do in preparation.
I did give you some errands.
A lot goes into- The eagle is landing.
A lot goes into me arriving.
We gotta get the strollers out of storage.
I gotta hit the kosher grocer
to make sure there's cut up fruit and rotisserie chicken.
Like there's lots to do.
Now I know obviously your day is much harder.
My day is no walk in the park.
No, and I did feel bad even asking you
for anything considering.
No.
Like you're going through a lot,
but I do know like you do make your way
to the kosher grocer.
So I was like-
I do.
And you're a travels,
and I know you always like to come with stuff
and so you were probably going anyway.
So I was like-
I was.
Can I request a chicken?
I'm also at the phase of pregnancy
where like laying around like doesn't make me feel good.
And even though I like begrudgingly leave the house
and go for walks and like just do random shit,
like I'm literally getting three manicures a week
because being out of the house, I do think is better for me.
I get better sleep at night.
Like I need to be doing stuff.
So you giving me stuff to do, it's okay.
That's funny.
I understand.
I actually did get a manicure yesterday.
Pargy.
With my new nails, Pargy.
Speaking of Pargy, I'm so excited
about a new development at Toast headquarters.
We've always had really cute Instagram stickers.
Like if you search for GIFs on your Instagram stories,
if you search like the Toast or Asheray
or Girl With No Job, you'll be able to find
ones we've had made that say like our isms.
Now they say premium content, they say P-Jom,
they say nothing of the sort.
There's a little thing of Theo,
I gotta get one of Romeo.
We haven't updated them in a while.
And-
What about Brutus?
Bruno's not there.
Right, so like you have Theo, you wanna get Romeo,
but not Bruno, who's given his all to the show yesterday.
To be honest, the little GIF we have of Theo
actually looks more like Bruno.
And it also looks like Romeo.
I don't think we need separate ones.
They're all twins, by the way.
Whatever, I'm getting off track. To the. They're all twins, by the way. Whatever.
To the untrained eye.
I'm getting off track.
To the untrained eye, they all look the same.
Yesterday, we published new stickers
because we need a sticker.
Like sometimes you take a picture.
Sometimes you take a picture of like a beautiful landscape
or a cocktail or whatever you're posting on your story.
And it's just like pargy, you know?
And you need a sticker that represents that.
So there are now pargy, pargylicious,
and gargy pargy stickers that you can search on Instagram
and put on your Instagram stories
to narrate something that you find Pargelish.
But I also think we should make more stickers
in different fonts because right now it's like,
I love it, the word art one,
but maybe something also a little more aesthetic.
Like Meghan Markle handwriting.
Maybe we could contract her to write us one.
Yeah, loose to complain.
I got them up in like two hours and I had them all made.
Like, please, my God, always critiquing me.
How'd you get them made?
I have my ways.
Word of heart?
No, I have my ways.
I got them up literally in two hours.
Like, sorry that you're critical.
No, I'm glad that we have something.
I'm glad we have something.
And sometimes I'd survive.
I used them last night.
I was the first, I was an early adapter.
I was an early adapter.
You were the first one to use it.
You make one, like however you think is most part.
You send it to me, I'll get it uploaded.
Okay, maybe I can even do my handwriting,
embrace my inner Megan.
Kind of like people who get tattoos.
Yeah.
Of like handwriting.
We're so authentic, we can't even pay for a font.
Also-
Fonts are expensive.
They are expensive, go with the free ones,
but then the good ones are like you have to pay for it.
Well, I did go with the free ones
and now I'm getting criticized on my own podcast.
I don't think it was a criticism,
I think it was just like an enhancement and like,
and also this, you know what I mean?
Okay, no, you're giving me jobs,
like that's what you're doing.
I wasn't saying instead of, I'm saying,
and also like I'm just really excited, sorry. Excitement excites me. No, I'm excited too. I'm excited too, you're giving me jobs. I wasn't saying instead of, I'm saying and also,
like I'm just really excited, sorry.
Excitement and excitement.
No, I'm excited too.
I'm excited too, I can't wait to see what you come up with.
Thanks, it's just like fun, the more the merrier.
For sure, for sure, so excited.
Very, very thrilling.
You also today look like you work in finance,
like in a good way.
Oh my God, I do, let me tell you.
So I'm at the stage of pregnancy where like
this skims maternity top and these lululemon
size 16 leggings like are the only things that really make me feel comfortable.
So I have to put on different things on top of it to like switch it up for the podcast.
I own one vest.
It's also hot in here so I can't wear like a sweater or cardigan every day.
It's getting warmer.
It's great.
A vest is great.
I only have one vest.
I wore it last week so I have to wait till next week to like wear it again. So I was like Ben, do you have a vest? The vest is great. A vest is great. I only have one vest I wore it last week. So I have to wait till next week to like wear it again.
So I was like, Ben, do you have a vest?
The vest was disgusting.
Yeah, I used to work at Goldman Sachs.
Here you go.
No, this is like a, it's a golf vest,
which is like the, yes, the finance correlation.
It's like a Patagonia.
It's, I look like such a douche Lord.
Like when Ben got out of the shower
and I was like dressed wearing his vest,
he was like, what are you wearing?
She's going to sell stocks.
I literally don't give a fuck, you know what I mean?
But I think it's a cool look.
You should also wear a hat and a backpack.
No.
I think you look cool.
It's like a nice vibe.
No, it's definitely like a unique choice.
I'm comfortable and at this moment in time,
like that's really all I can care about.
And it's like cold in New York.
I looked at the weather.
It was a low of 37.
Yeah, but that's-
High of 53.
Yeah. That's that high.
I walked to work today.
It wasn't like-
Did you wear a jacket over your vest?
I didn't, I was hot.
Interesting.
But I'm gonna be traversing all day,
running errands for you.
So I thought I might need a coat.
But no, a vest is perfect
cause like you'll be hot in a coat, but you do need pockets.
But you said that vest was disgusting.
They revealed that day I wore a vest.
Because that vest was disgusting.
Vests are so kind of amazing.
Vests took a hit after that.
My armpits feel so free.
A big hit.
No, vests are amazing because it's like, here, have a pocket.
Say no more.
Right. Here, cover your love handles.
Yeah.
I may wear a vest with this
because I like wearing a vest on the plane for the pockets.
It's a good thing to wear on a travel day.
For my ID so it can fall out of your pocket.
For your ID, yes.
Yeah, and my phone.
Chapstick.
Trips to the Cape.
Maybe I'll find money in here.
No.
Because he was making all that money.
From Ben, like, from finance.
No, him like, him like betting people on the golf course,
you know?
Yeah.
Or like tip money for the caddy.
There's no money in here.
Shouldn't have known better.
I'm sorry.
Well, we have a great show today
because we have the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap
at the end of today's episode.
We also have the Fast Five stories that you need to know.
And how are those stories that you need to know?
Do you really need to know them, you think?
They came together in a meaningful way.
And the stories I would say like are showing up
for us today.
Strong but small but mighty stories.
It's important that we show up for one another
in meaningful ways.
And that you like the way that you are showing up
for yourself.
That's a new thing people like to say.
I didn't like how I was showing up for myself.
I actually haven't heard that one.
Oh, I've been seeing that a lot.
Like you need to show up for yourself.
Claudia, I don't know.
It's like the new ism.
I feel like it just means like how I am.
Like your mood?
No, just like, if you say I don't like how I am right now,
say that's what you're trying to say.
I wasn't showing up.
But in what essence?
I don't like how I physically look. I don't like my mental state. Mental state, like I'm not happy. Say I'm not now. Say that's what you're trying to say. I wasn't showing up. But in what essence? I don't like how I physically look,
I don't like my mental state.
Mental state, like I'm not happy.
Say I'm not happy.
Okay.
Yeah, that's I think what it is.
Your disposition, disposition.
Yeah, like I'm just like not in a good place.
They would say, I don't,
I wasn't showing up for myself in a way
that I was happy with or was proud of.
Just like, that's the new, just look out for it.
I'm telling you, I called you on holding
space or two things.
Yes, yes. Watch out. We were a little late to that actually. That one really took off. look out for it. I'm telling you, I called you on holding space or two things. Watch out.
We were a little late to that actually.
That one really took off.
Watch out for showing up.
Now we're not holding, we're showing.
I can promise our listeners that I'm gonna show up today
in a way that I am proud of.
Yeah, I hope so.
I mean, as much as we can do in a Safi,
we're trying to, even though like we've already
screwed the pooch, we're incapable
of doing theafis anymore.
The thing is, is it's so crazy because
we do a daily show.
Nesafi is an opposite of Nelafi
and Nelafi is a nice long one for you.
And we're talking about the length of our episodes.
Yes, they have been getting a lot.
We haven't done an episode under an hour in years.
And the crazy part of that is, is that you would think
that because we do a daily show, we do five times more episodes than the average podcast.
Like you would think that it would be enough.
And not only for us,
like we would have enough time to say what we need to say,
but also like the listeners would have enough.
Let me tell you, the longer our episodes,
the better our numbers.
Like people want two episodes a day now.
Like that's kind of becoming a new podcast format,
multiple episodes a day, kind of like mimicking,
I guess a cable where there's things on all day.
You release podcasts all day.
Don't expect that from us.
No, no.
No, don't.
And theirs are like Nesafis.
Yeah, they're like 15 minutes.
And it's like, is anyone actually listening?
Because what are they saying?
All's that to say, you would think that that would be enough.
Meanwhile, at the end of every week, I'm like,
oh my God, I forgot to talk about
six things on the toast this week.
Meanwhile, every episode went extra long.
We're pushing 90 minutes almost on a daily basis.
Even days where we're recording early today
because Jackie has a flight,
just trying to cushion for time,
we will still, you'll be late to your flight, don't worry.
Thanks.
Thanks so much. You're welcome.
So yeah, I think without further ado,
we should get into the past five stories
that you do need to know.
Okay, I did also just wanna share like one personal anecdote.
I'm sorry before.
It better be so good.
I just want to-
Oh, it's not, okay.
It's really not, so I'll move on.
Really? Okay, now I'm curious.
No, I just wanted to share like, you know,
of course I'm not buying anything
for this next chapter of my life.
Like there's nothing going on,
nothing coming in, coming out.
But I did purchase a new chair for my home.
It's a chair that reclines. It's a chair that reclines.
It's a chair that rocks back and forth.
You purchased it?
Well, no, actually I did receive a gifting.
Thank you so much.
You should know better.
For putting me on the spot.
You shouldn't have purchased it.
Yes, I didn't purchase it.
And I just, you know, I've been needing a new place to sit.
And just sort of relax.
And let me tell you, it really makes me jealous
of the people who like have their nurseries ready
like three months in, because the excitement
that this one chair has brought me, it's not normal.
Well, new furniture is always exciting,
especially a cozy chair. That's true.
I've been spending a lot of time in my own little corner
in my own little chair where I can be whatever I want to be.
And I'll use the chair while I'm there.
Yes, that's why I got it.
I got it because Jackie's coming to town
and I know she loves to sit.
And I thought that that was a good use of my gifting
is to get a chair for my sister to sit in.
Yeah, like this week, you never know when a nap
is gonna need to happen.
Right, and I don't want you to be at my home
and that kind of default.
Not be able to rock my child to sleep,
like that would be insane. Right, right, right, right.
Or even yourself.
Or even yourselves.
So yeah, it wasn't like an amazing anecdote.
I just like was sharing a personal update.
I'll never do it again.
A lot of pressure.
I'm in a Nassafi day.
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Someone talking about lice, making your head itchy
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Right, like that's what that was.
You were like going in depth on sixth season
and I had a reaction.
Let's get into the story, shall we?
I guess.
Our first story, which I know is really near and dear
to your heart and actually both of our hearts,
it's a kind of a-
It's a combo.
It's a combo of our favorite subjects.
I wouldn't say for like our queens.
Are you talking about Gwyneth and Meghan?
Yeah, but like I wouldn't say Meghan is my queen,
you know, I think it's a little more complicated than that.
Yeah, you're a little too critical of her,
like in an honest and endearing way
to have her be considered your queen,
whereas like Gwyneth could seriously kill somebody
and I would find a way to defend them.
So we're just like heavily interested in both of them,
but like as a Queen Elizabeth Stan,
like Meghan will never be my queen, sorry.
Right, right, right.
She is my queen.
Rip.
Meghan Markle and Gwyneth Paltrow
addressed their rumored beef during a surprise hangout.
So over the last few days,
we talked about it a little bit last week.
Gwyneth was asked about Meghan.
She gave a very non shady response
that everyone took to be shady.
And then she posted a video of herself
making breakfast in her kitchen,
just like a party vibe, eggs, bacon, coffee, Montecito,
and put on the song, Everlasting Love over the video.
And people really took that to be a dig at Meghan.
And honestly, I thought it was a little shady also.
I don't know, just the way it was being positioned,
I was like, oh, is this a shade?
No way.
Honestly, I saw people like,
I saw people pitting them against each other
before there was anything to even work on
because they're in a similar,
it's the same thing that happened with Courtney Kardashian.
Like people just assume that if you're encroaching
on the wellness space, like Gwyneth is the queen,
and time after time she shows you exactly who she is.
She does not care about other women entering the space.
She's extremely supportive.
She's also extremely secure in her own business.
Like no one's really gonna come.
Goop is a billion dollar company.
Like good luck everybody else.
Please join me up here, I welcome you.
She has never done what people thought she's gonna do
when like another female celebrity
enters the wellness space.
So with this Megan thing, it was like,
did we learn nothing from Courtney Kardashian?
There's no world in which Gwyneth would have given a shit
or like felt competitive or shady towards Megan.
I think if anything, like,
so before even the Instagram story or the vanity fair,
people had been commenting being like,
oh, Gwyneth is rolling over.
And she's not, she wasn't.
I never thought for one second that Gwyneth
had anything negative to say or think about Meghan.
I believed, I took her at her word
because she's not like a jealous or competitive person.
And like we've seen that time and again,
but I thought when she posted that breakfast video,
maybe I don't see enough of her content,
maybe she posts that all the time.
So like, this was unlike it.
But when it was like framed like that and she used the song,
I thought maybe she was maybe just like stunned in a little.
Like, now this is how you do breakfast in Montecito.
She's known for her breakfast.
She does hashtag boyfriend breakfast.
When she started dating Brad Fowlcheck,
this is like, this is what I made my boyfriend for breakfast.
And now she like always calls it boyfriend breakfast.
I've seen her make like a thousand breakfasts.
It's so, if you know, Gwyneth, like I do
on like a deep spiritual, emotional level,
you never thought anything of it.
So she did a Q and A on her Instagram.
Someone asked her, are you comprehending
the Meghan Markle beef that social media says you two have?
And she's like, no, I don't understand this at all.
And she turns the camera, she's like, do you understand this?
And it's Meghan like chuckling and taking a bite
of the food that Gwyneth has made them.
Now let me tell you,
while I never thought these two had beef,
I never expected to see them sitting
at Gwyneth's dining room table.
No same, especially because people had said
they both live in Montecito,
and it was said that they've never met,
or they're not friends.
So that just points to like the opposite.
Or I actually think that like a lot of,
I could see Gwyneth saying that thing in her Vanity Fair
or whatever it was that got taken out of context.
I could see Gwyneth having reached out,
being like, by the way, I didn't say this.
I know you live nearby.
If you wanna like come over for coffee and chat,
like I think you're great.
And I could actually see like people thinking
that they were not friendly with one another,
bringing them together, having been the thing.
I totally agree.
That's how I saw it go down to like a clarification
text message, hey, let's get together.
Yeah, having my people call your people.
Yeah.
Now it takes a lot to shock me.
I was genuinely shocked.
I know, I thought she was just turning it
to like her assistant or something.
Well, by the way, if you watch the Q and A,
she's doing it at the same kitchen table,
like the whole day.
And she was asked a question about being like
a female founder.
And she's like, oh, well, I'm actually sitting here
with my partner.
And they turn the camera to the partner
who's sitting like in Megan's seat at the time.
And they answer this question about like
being a woman in business.
So when she turned the camera,
I thought she was going back to her partner.
Yeah.
Do you think Gwyneth will do her podcast
of Confessions of a Female Founder?
That's a really good question
because Gwyneth has a podcast, a very successful podcast.
Nikki Glaser is actually on it this week.
I was seeing clips that actually looked
like I wanted to watch it.
I feel like when you have a podcast,
you're more inclined to do a podcast.
Or like if you're gonna do it,
do you want it on your podcast or on the other person's podcast?
Because I meant to get you to do a pod swap
in a situation like that.
Yeah, I feel like celebrities have this tier,
like we're getting one, not two pod swaps,
you know what I mean?
I don't know if they have two in them.
No, I agree.
I think that it would be great for Meghan
to go on the Goop podcast,
to promote her own podcast and all of her brands.
I agree with that.
And I think for Gwyneth,
like she's the more established podcaster
and business person here.
I think she should host.
Yes, and then also, did you hear the trailer
for Confessions of a Female Founder?
It dropped two days ago yesterday.
I didn't watch it with sound because I saw the trailer
and I saw that Megan is not recording in a studio.
She's recording with people on Zoom and a podcast microphone giving COVID. because I saw the trailer and I saw that Megan is not recording in a studio.
She's recording with people on Zoom
in a podcast microphone giving COVID.
And I really realized kind of the level of effort
being put into this project.
And if she's not gonna put in the effort,
I'm not gonna put in the effort to watching the trailer.
Like I was really disappointed.
Like female founders, I thought we were gonna see them
all looking party together in a studio.
Where are the clips?
No, Zoom, seriously, what is it, 2020?
That's really crazy.
And if you're doing Zoom, you better get the best guests
ever because there's no reason why you can't.
There's no scheduling conflict.
I listened in the podcast app,
so I had the podcasting experience.
You had the audio experience, I had the visual.
So together we had one full thing.
And I found it really impossible to finish
even just the trailer.
It was just really,
it was really difficult.
I didn't even know who we're talking to.
Who was she talking to?
Anyone we know?
Right, that's the thing.
Like what I saw-
Did she show people?
It was just the back of her computer.
Okay, so I don't even know who we're talking to.
And then it's all these like, you know,
tropes of just like cliche shit and maybe that's the trailer.
I'll just keep giving her chances,
but I couldn't finish the trailer, I'll just say.
No, and it's like with podcasting,
it's like she's almost always there, but not quite.
Like even with Archwell, I, or what was it called?
Archetypes, she didn't do video,
which like in this day and age,
your podcast doesn't exist if you don't have a video.
And she had these premium people, but a lot of it was like-
Unless you're smartless.
Literally, unless you're smartless.
She had all these premium guests
who she wasn't recording with in person.
There were all these like pre-taped segments
to like fill airtime.
So she was almost there.
She got the guests.
She didn't really quite get the content
and the video wasn't there.
So this time around, I really thought,
because what she's doing is just kind of
mimicking other successful ways of making money online.
Like she has the affiliates
and she's doing Instagram content,
but she's doing it all at like,
she's operating at a bad level.
It's like the Instagram stories are blurry.
Now we're getting Zoom podcasting.
Like Lemonada would stand for this.
I find that shocking.
Oh, Lemonada had like a pargy intro in the beginning. What was it? Oh, like this, you are listening to a Lemonada would stand for this. I find that shocking. Oh, Lemonada had like a pargy intro in the beginning.
What was it?
Oh, like this, you are listening to a Lemonada podcast.
Something like that, but it was like so Lemonada.
Can I play it?
Mm-hmm.
I feel like they will love that.
You will love it.
Lemonada.
That's it?
That's it, like you're at a spa.
Whose voice was that, Megan or no? Just like- No, I think that's like Lemonada. That's it. That's it, like you're at a spa. Whose voice was that, Megan or no?
Just like-
No, I think that's like Lemonada's CEO.
Thing.
The CEO of Lemonada.
Bum, bum, bum, bum.
I like that.
Short and sweet.
Yeah, like you're at a spa.
So I don't think, especially now knowing what we know
about the level of production,
I don't think Gwyneth will be going
on female founding podcast, Fathers, whatever it's called, but I do think we could see the level of production. I don't think Gwyneth will be going on female founding podcast fathers, whatever it's called.
But I do think we could see Megan on Goop.
Have you seen the Goop podcast?
It's pargy, like literally the sick studio.
It's so Gwyneth's aesthetic, like very neutral beige,
like really high quality video, high quality audio.
It's what you come to expect
from a billionaire who's doing a podcast.
Yeah.
So that's the latest.
We'll see what's next.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story,
which is actually some crazy influencer news
that dropped yesterday that has a Jewish world in a tizzy.
Oh my God, tizzy.
Alex Earl sued a British fitness brand, Gymshark,
for $1 million after it axed her sponsorship deal
over quote, pro-Israel views.
So Jim Shark was which is a British fitness brand has settled a claim for $1 million
from Alex Earl after they allegedly axed her sponsorship deal over online criticism
of her pro-Israel views. She filed allegations against the company at the high court arguing
it owed her the equivalent of 770,000 pounds
in damages for terminating the deal prematurely.
So Alex Earl on October 7th.
No, this is so crazy because what one brand,
like this brand perceived Alex Earl
as being like radically pro-Israel
and they found that so offensive, right?
Whereas if you remember at the time,
I was very invested in like what people were posting
on social media,
because this was like sort of the craziest thing to happen
to my people in my lifetime.
And I remember seeing Alex post like a story,
just being like right after October 7th happened.
So there was no war, there was no retaliation.
It was on October 7th, it was that morning.
I think the terrorists were still in the country.
Right, like rape, murder.
It was so, like it was so not a controversial thing
at the time to even say like,
praying for all the people getting murdered and raped.
Like it really wasn't.
And so she just posted that card.
I think it was the same one that Kylie posted.
It's like a blue sky and a flag.
And it said, we stand with the people of Israel,
something like that.
So honestly.
Which is like what you post about anything
when something happens in the world.
That's usually the textbook, like we stand with LA,
we stand with, anytime there's a tragedy,
we stand with them, okay.
And I remember being like, oh okay,
like me, my bar is so high, I'm like,
oh she's putting it in a little bit.
And then she ended up deleting it
because I assume she got so much backlash,
which is fucking crazy.
Now we now know two years later,
there was even more backlash.
And I'm sure part of the reason why she deleted is
because she had this million dollar deal
and the brand is like coming at her neck
for posting something completely innocuous.
And honestly, good, like I stand before,
like I happen to love Alex Darrell.
I think she's like so cute and adorable.
Now I know she has a backbone and like,
I, there's nothing you could say
to make me dislike this girl.
Yeah, no, she, I mean, she did take it down,
which at the time we were really hard on her for
and I feel bad about that now
because I know where her heart is at
and it's with the people of Israel.
And so then when she was like asked to clarify and comment,
she was like, my heart continues to be with everyone
who has been impacted by these horrifying acts of terrorism.
She said like, people are getting raped and murdered,
like I'm against that.
It was so not a crazy stance.
Not at all, but the fact that then she didn't like
swing the other way and post just to appease people,
like that is what we would call a backbone
in this day and age and that she's not letting
this brand get away with terminating her contract
and she won. The fact that she's not letting this brand get away with terminating her contract and she won.
The fact that she then pursued legally,
which she has every right to do
and the fact that she won is like proof
that the law was on her side
and that the brand acted like in breach of contract.
But I think a lot of people maybe wouldn't have pursued
the legal route because it creates a bigger story.
And I'm sure this like little, you know,
this moment of backlash is that something she wants
to become a national news story.
And when you do sue someone, like, look,
we're talking about it now, now it's a story,
it's back in the news, even though this is two years old.
So I think a lot of people would have avoided that
because she makes a lot of money,
and I know a million dollars is like a lot of money,
but when you're at that level,
like it's not a million dollars to you.
It's different.
Anyway, it's like one brand deal and a sea of brand deals.
And I didn't even know she does stuff with Gymshark.
She has so many more like prominent brands that she does.
She might've been able to let this go,
but no, like on principle and also give me my money.
1000%.
Yeah.
So like respect.
Yeah.
She had said at the time, she had said,
I'm shattered over the inexcusable, disgusting,
disrespectful torturing of women children babies and so many others
There are no words to describe a tragedy of this magnitude and the mass devastation it has caused
I feel like I need to I know not me placing an order at sip margs.com like how can I support?
I think we need to sip on some sip margs.com. I think we do too after of course
We sip on some spritz society calm beds gonna kill us
No, it's different. She does margaritas. We do. I just tequila we do wine. It's so different
Couldn't be the same like
Not like subscribe comment raid review whatever I can do to support this Queen
Yeah
and also not her like putting this brand on blast because I don't really know this one but I actually had just seen to like
yesterday before this a
video of this girl,
she had like was taking before and after selfies at the gym
cause she was losing weight
and she's wearing these gym shark leggings
and they are like flesh colored.
They are meant to be like pink camo,
but it seriously looks like she's naked and it's horrible.
And she's like, they're horrible.
And she actually dyes them at home, like on her kitchen top,
like to make them black.
And it was just like the opposite of a good ad for Gymshark.
So it's just a bad day for Gymshark,
but that's what happens when you're bad.
Things I won't be purchasing, Gymshark.
Like seriously, not that I go to the gym.
She's such a queenie for this.
I was shocked when I heard this story.
I thought for sure it was like fake news.
And then I Googled it and it was like,
it's in the UK.
So it hasn't really hit like American media so hard,
but it was in all like the Daily Mail, the independent.
Yeah.
Cause it's happening over there.
Yeah. Cause when I was looking for stories this morning,
I didn't see it anywhere.
And then I remembered that I wanted to talk about it
and I had to go and look for it.
Right.
But go off queen.
Queen sitmargs.com.
Sitmargs.com. Sipmargs.com.
They look so amazing tasting.
I'm drinking my coffee, but I wish it was a sipmarg.
And I'm gonna be listening to Hot Mess on repeat.
I fucking love that podcast.
You know, actually I really love that sister Ashton.
I just started following her on all platforms.
She's got something too.
Are you an Ashton or an Alex?
That's a really good question.
What are their dynamics?
Like if you had to apply them to us, who's who?
I just assume that I'm Ashton.
She seems like the one that's like Alex is like
fun and outgoing.
No, they both really are,
but like we just know Alex better.
They're very similar.
Ashton seems like- Alex is older.
More sober, not in an alcohol sense,
but just in like a, you know, the little sister who's growing up fast.
To be honest, I don't know enough
about their personalities.
Yeah, yeah, but I stan.
I stan.
Our next story, some new music news.
Something that's been in the works for a while
has been announced that Miley has announced
her visual album, Something something beautiful with a release date
So my lee has announced her upcoming visual album called something beautiful, which is releasing on may 30th
Though details surrounding the record are scarce. She revealed that her ninth album will feature 13 original tracks
and um is executive produced by sat by her and shawn everett
She also I just feel like I need to use this
as an opportunity to speak my truth.
Okay, but let me just give a few more details.
She also revealed the album cover,
which is a artsy shot of her in a Mugler couture.
And it's 13 songs with accompanying music videos,
making it a visual album, and it will tell some story.
It's some like pop opera.
Right, because that brings me back to my truth.
I know.
What is a visual album?
And like, we need to stop coming up with new words.
So you're making music videos for your songs.
But I think like each music video relates back to,
like I think it's like one long music video.
So it's a movie.
But it's, I guess a visual album.
So it's a musical.
Kind of like Kelsey Ballerini's, was that a visual album?
Was there a video for every single song?
Yeah, but it was a short song.
But it was an EP, so it was like six, yeah.
It was a visual EP.
I know when I think of visual,
I feel like the term visual album
came from Beyonce's Lemonade.
Yeah.
And when she did it, it was like revolutionary,
and now I just feel like people are trying to be different.
Now this is not me hating on Miley,
because I do want to say this is the first time
I feel like Miley's released an album
where I feel like I'm really at a place
to not sleep on it and not-
You want to accept it.
I want to understand it.
I want to really dive into it.
I feel like, for me, but also for her,
she's at a great place of joy and understanding,
and I feel like she really knows who she is.
Showing up for herself.
Exactly, I'm actually exactly,
I'm ready to show up for her
in a way that I can be proud of.
I agree.
And there's been like whispers about her new album
for a while now.
And so this is like what we've gotten.
And I'm also just like a little worried.
I don't want to doubt her,
but like it does look very artsy, avant-garde,
like Lady Gaga, like above my pay grade a little bit.
Like, and then veering a little bit like towards dead pets.
I'm just like, that's my concern.
Not in like a very extreme sort of way.
I don't know, but like what I was seeing wasn't like,
oh my God, I need to see this.
Now, maybe it's something I will grow into
and I need to like mature in my understanding of art,
but it looked a little bit out of my reach.
And does it look like so different
than the previous era of like Flowers?
Yeah, it's like very punk.
I know I used to be crazy.
It's very punk hard, like, you know, metal, like.
Is it closer to like Glass Hearts
or whatever that album was called?
Yes, it's not Flowers, it's not like Stripped Down.
Malibu.
It's honestly, it feels like something from Lady Gaga.
Like with the sharp edges, sharp chiseled cheekbones,
no eyebrows, which by the way,
I love no eyebrow representation, more of that.
Interesting, I mean, I'm gonna reserve judgment
and show up in a meaningful way.
Same, I just like, that was my,
I thought that's what you were gonna say,
which is like, just the initial visuals,
like I just feel like out of my grasp.
It just, it looked like monochromatic to me,
like black, white.
As a piece of uncultured swine.
Yes, of course, of course.
Who just wants everything served to me
in a digestible way.
Yeah, like palatable, like for idiots.
Yeah, like kids bop.
Literally.
So I will of course support her
and I love her dearly. Of course.
And I'm rooting for her.
And I agree, she's in a great place right now,
so I don't think this is like a work of a madman.
No, no, sometimes like when someone's really like not
in a good place, but also has no sense of self.
And they just put shit together being like, this is me.
And it comes off very confusing for the fans, contrived.
And so I feel like with this last year,
Miley's been in a really stable, happy relationship.
She's had a lot of success.
When I feel like she wasn't really trying so hard,
I feel like she was trying really hard for a while
and people weren't noticing.
Since she was just like, fuck it,
and was writing music like just that she felt like writing.
And that's how we got flowers.
That's how we got used to be young.
And that's where she got her Grammys.
And so I want more of that.
Used to be young, don't sleep on me.
That song is so fucking pargy.
I know, I love it.
It's like, it's one of those,
it's almost in the category of songs that like are,
if you think about them too hard, you'll start to cry.
Yeah. Oh my God.
I was listening to an old Sam Hunt song yesterday
because he had like-
Which one?
2016, do you know it?
It came out like-
The song is called 2016?
Yeah. And it came out in like 2020.
It was just like all about his regrets.
And I remember I listened to it all throughout COVID.
So maybe that's why I was making me emo,
because it was like, just I was reminded of,
I think it was like the first song on Quarantines,
but like it's such a pargy song.
And it's like just something about, it's like so sad,
like about everything he would do differently.
No, sometimes like songs.
I drive a thousand miles to your house,
walking like I walked out.
Put the tears back in your eyes.
Oh wait, did you say Sam Smith?
Sam Smith.
Oh my God, I was like so confused
because I'm like, she is, I think misgendering Sam Smith
and I really don't know how we're gonna navigate this.
And I was like, also, I didn't know that Jackie listened
to Sam Smith, I was so confused.
I'd drive a thousand miles to your house.
I fucking love that song, you know I hate Sam Hunt.
La, the tears back from your eyes.
Yeah, of course I fucking know 2016, bitch.
Okay, I'm glad we're on the same page
and you guys should listen to it.
And let me know if it's like so good because of quarantine
or because it's just so good.
Phew!
You're like sitting there not listening to me
because you know we're cutting it out.
And I was going to correct you,
but I actually don't know Sam Smith's pronouns.
So I was just like.
That's how you just Sam Smith.
Right, right.
And Sam said, and Sam did.
Oh, and then is it like.
Sam Hunt.
Yes, it is the first song on Quarantines.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
And I like that song too.
Listen to it again.
Like it really hits like fresh.
In case you don't live forever by Ben Platt is of course.
That's like seriously hit the red button
like for like emotional destruction.
Yeah.
And then there's an anti-grammar song
I like can't listen to without crying.
Interesting.
Is it called like I'm yours or something?
I'm not sure.
And of course if I'm on a plane, the list gets bigger.
But of course, of course.
And it's just every song.
Are you ready for our fourth story? Yeah, fuck it, you know? Shailene Woodley has a new man.
I know. She was spotted cozy in Paris with Lucas Bravo, who is from Emily in Paris. Yeah,
Gabrielle the chef. Are people like dying over this? No. Aren't they dying over Gabrielle?
Are people dying over this? No.
Aren't they dying over Gabrielle?
So he is very much, I feel, the big.
You know how every Michael Patrick King show
has an Aidan and a big, a Josh and a Charles,
a Gabrielle, and what's the other guy's name?
I have so much in the show, I feel like his name's Alvin.
It's not Alvin.
No, I'm telling you.
I don't think it's Alvin.
Or his name is Alvin in real life.
Hold on, Emily.
Now I need to know.
Alfie, okay?
I was close.
It's so different.
And so for me, when I saw this picture of Luca Brazzi
and Shailene, my first thought was,
wow, he's much more handsome in the show.
Not to be rude.
Second of all, I guess Aaron and Shaylene
are never getting back together.
But I just want to say this actually bodes well for them
because he looks just like Aaron.
I know you probably don't think,
oh, that guy from Emily in Paris,
the chef looks like Aaron Rodgers.
But in this picture, maybe even I just,
he looks like Aaron and that's TMZ's headline,
she's with Aaron's lookalike.
The funny thing about Shailene is like
she's this other worldly type of queen, right?
You know, she gave up all of her material items.
She like doesn't wear shoes.
She probably like doesn't wear deodorant either,
but she like won't give up like the star, you know?
Like a girl like that you think would be dating,
you know, kind of what Lana Del Rey did.
She married like a crocodile hunter.
And you think Shailene Woodley would date
like a professional hiker or something.
Yeah, like a marine biologist.
Right, her vice is like famous hot men.
And she's not giving it up,
even though she's given up all her other worldly items.
And I kind of love that about her.
Yeah, but maybe she like tells herself
that she's kind of with men,
even though they're heartthrobs,
I don't know anything about Lucas, but like Aaron-
There's really not a lot to know.
Aaron was also of that elk of like,
ayahuasca living on the earth.
Yeah, but they're both still a part of like
the corporate Hollywood evil greedy machine.
But like, it's probably nice for her
that she had someone that she could relate to.
Now she hasn't taken it all the way, of course.
Yeah.
But I feel like she does sort of seek out people
who are naturalists such as herself.
But if she was a true naturalist,
like she'd be dating a camp counselor,
you know what I mean?
Of course.
But maybe she's not true, you know?
Maybe you could just be like, talk to something.
Some of us are just not true and that's fine.
You know, but like you could be like a little bit something
or even a lot of bit, but not all the way.
Yeah. Maybe she's just a little bit natural.
I'm a little bit natural.
And also maybe like that's where she'll end up.
Maybe she's on that journey to end up with it.
Maybe that's her true love.
As long as you're ascending, not descending
in your naturalism.
Is a hiking tour guide.
You think Shailene Woodley takes Advil?
No, I don't think Aaron Rodgers takes Advil.
I mean, he gets injured.
I know.
I think you need to.
I don't know, I just feel like he goes
and runs on a treadmill underwater instead.
That's funny to me when people won't take Advil
but they'll take Ayahuasca, like, okay, pop off.
No, that, I understand that sort of it's like of the earth.
I guess.
I don't know, but Advil, I don't know.
I'm not interested in like, do they take Advil?
Cause I feel like Advil also low key doesn't work.
Like, do you take Xanax?
Advil definitely works.
I can tell you as somebody who's been
dependent on it for a whole life.
Some people's problems are too big for Advil.
1000% of course, who comes to mind?
Devin from Love is Blind.
Hatorne Achilles is too big for Advil.
Did you see that Devin from Love is Blind
did actually comment on the ibuprofen abuse being like,
no, you guys-
By the way, no, I didn't see that.
He was like, you guys misunderstood. And I was like, oh, okay, thank God. And then he explained itfen abuse being like, no you guys. No, I didn't see that. He was like, you guys misunderstood.
And I was like, oh, okay, thank God.
And then he explained it and it was like, oh no,
we understood what you just said is exactly what we thought.
Okay, but what did he think?
You abuse Advil.
I think he thought people thought he was like
getting crunk on Advil.
No, we never thought that because we know you can't.
We just thought that like you were using Advil as like a crutch for your pain instead of,
you know, like fixing it.
And he's like, yeah, that's what I was doing.
Cool.
Okay.
Thanks for clarifying.
So you agree.
You think you're really pretty.
So you agree.
You think you're addicted to Advil.
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Our fifth and final story.
So Erica, Jane and Bose were on Watch What Happens Live last night,
and they shaded Garcelle for quitting Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
after the explosive reunion.
So by the way, like we reported Garcelle leaving yesterday
and we were like, why?
Turns out like everyone hates Garcelle.
Not one of them liked or commented
on her announcement of her leaving,
except for Jennifer Tilly.
We got the trailer for the reunion.
She like storms off.
So clearly something happened.
And I just want to say like, we called it yesterday.
Like that video was lacking a lot.
Something, yeah.
Like a reason to tear.
Like, okay, that's all really nice.
Why are you leaving?
And now we know more.
So we saw the trailer for the reunion
where it seems like now that there's this Braggus
between her and Sutton,
that she's kind of on an island.
She's like burning to the ground.
Yeah.
Because the reason for the Braggus with Sutton
is because Sutton wants to be a part of the larger group
more, you know, starting with Kyle.
And so then when, if she's successful in that,
that kind of leaves like Garcella
on this hater island alone.
And it seems-
It does.
It seems like that's where she is.
She ends up.
The reunion.
And I also think like in her confessionals this season,
Garcella is always shady, but she was pretty shady.
So she has a lot to answer for at the reunion.
Like just a lot of like comments and stuff.
So I imagine she had a hard time.
She storms off.
She says, fuck you all.
Sutton doesn't have her back.
She did not take a cast photo, they said,
on Watch What Happens Live.
And they knew she was gonna quit after that.
And they are, they, so he asked, like,
what are your thoughts on Garcelle quitting?
They both, like, just sort of smirked
and, like, wouldn't say anything.
And he's like, you guys have no thoughts on it,
neither of you.
And after Erika urged Boz to say something,
Boz said, look, I'm disappointed that she's departing
after the reunion.
I wish she would have stuck around
to work out another season.
Then Erika said that she knew Garcelle would quit the show after she stormed off the reunion
and refused to take the cast photo. Well, the thing is, is actually about Garcelle,
whereas there's a couple of like dynamics at play. I actually do agree with her when it comes to
Sutton. Like Sutton is such a loser for like not wanting to give up these women who don't like her.
They don't have a good relationship
and really aren't there for her in a way
that Garcelle shows up really meaningfully
as a friend for Sutton.
So she's like totally justified when it comes to Sutton.
But I do wish she didn't let herself get so alienated
from the other couch because she needed more support
and she didn't get it because she planted all of her flags
in Sutton and Sutton was like a terrible friend.
And I wouldn't be surprised if they're not friends anymore.
She could have maintained decent friendships
with other people by not always having Sutton's back.
Like she could have had a friendship issue with Erica
and Kyle and not let Sutton's fights become her own
because then when Sutton solves those issues,
like Garcelle is still-
Is left with the anger.
They're alone, yeah.
And I also thought it was so interesting the whole. They're alone, yeah. And I also-
Yeah, she didn't do it.
And I was so interested the whole time,
they're like, Kyle doesn't have Sutton's back.
Like Sutton has Kyle's back.
And they're all like talking about this,
how Kyle's not a good friend to Sutton.
And I'm thinking like,
yeah, Kyle doesn't have Sutton's back.
That's not what a friend does.
And then Kyle very recently explains why.
And then they bring it up to her finally.
And she's like, why the fuck would I have her back?
Like, I don't agree with what she's saying in these instances.
She literally drilled in on me last season, like why?
And they're like, cause she really cares about you.
Kyle's like, that's not my fucking problem.
Like it's so funny.
It was actually really funny to hear it from Kyle.
It's like, wait, she's upset about me?
Like why, get over it.
The only good point that Sutton made
on last night's episode was that,
cause what everyone's saying about her is true.
I don't think it was like this coordinated attack.
It's just like they all came to the realization
of the truth together. Like I don't think it was a big deal, but she's like, it is true. I don't think it was like this coordinated attack. It's just like they all came to the realization of the truth together.
Like I don't think it was a big deal.
But she's like, it is annoying.
Like, and she did say it like this way.
She said it in a dumber way,
but her point was valid in that like,
Erica can't let go of the interrogation
of the LA Times article.
And she's right, like that's her trauma.
That's her truth, whatever.
But Sutton was not the only one at the time
who was like asking questions.
She was the most direct.
She was kind of the face of the movement.
But Kyle and a little bit Dorit were like,
under the surface and then of course
the conversation with the husbands.
So I think they've worked it out,
but like she holds almost no resentment to Kyle and Dorit
and all of it on sudden.
And that's not 100% fair.
Agreed, as much as I'm an Erica apologist now,
it's crazy to think that all of that could have happened
with Erika and it wasn't gonna be mentioned
or people weren't gonna ask questions.
So I feel like the way that Kyle and Dorit
asked questions didn't push her too hard,
didn't get her to a place where she would have to say
something that might violate legal things.
Sutton did that though.
Like the idea that-
But that's what a friend would do
who also needs to do their job.
Right. The idea that no one's gonna talk about it is crazy.
It was the biggest story in the country.
It's a crazy thing that happened.
For a while it was not clear
if Erica knew about any of this.
So like you do have to kind of get to the bottom of it.
The way that Sutton went about it,
like never letting Erica breathe was completely different.
Yeah, and not what like a friend does.
No, that's what an enemy does.
Not even a passerby.
That's an enemy that just like,
can't give you one pleasant meal without bringing it up.
And I understand, like at the time
she was asking a lot of questions
at which people wanted to know.
But if you care more about your relationship with Erica
than you do care about pleasing the viewers.
Relationship with the fans.
Right, then you might've backed off a little bit.
Now, did you have any idea
that last night's episode was the finale?
I did because they said this season
on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
I had no idea.
They're on the beach dancing
and then it says Deread and Piquette.
What?
I was shocked.
I don't remember a time in recent history
where they've ended on a trip.
Yeah, but I'm ready.
Like even this trip was just a regurgitation
of the fights of the season.
There's nothing new here.
We need a reunion.
We need Coombs afresh.
So I'm excited for the reunion next week.
And I'm ready to like get up to speed
on what's been going on in the ladies lives.
Same, the one month later,
Tom Girardi update was not necessary.
I literally don't care.
Like he's like decrepit.
I think we were on break that week
because it was like late August.
So I think that was like the one summer week
that we took off.
Cause I was like, did we even talk about this?
It's just like a non, we know he's guilty.
Like, okay fine.
He's legally guilty now.
He's like a decrepit old man in a nursing home.
He has not one dollar to his name.
Like it's sort of like, like who cares?
Like I didn't think it was worth
picking the cameras up again.
And I feel like it was sort of emblematic
of the entire season where nothing really happened.
They're making a lot of mountains out of molehills.
And that's exactly what that whole
one month later thing was for me.
Yeah.
Now I love to see my two queens, Erica and Boze,
being besties on Watch Rapunzel Live.
I couldn't love Boze more if I tried.
I just think she's such a great addition.
And I loved that she got everybody to dress up
in last night's episode.
Like everybody went full balls to the wall
for the carnival theme.
Like old, young, I mean, these women look amazing.
It's insane.
They're in their 50s and 60s.
Like it's fucking crazy.
They looked so great.
It was so fun.
She really planned a good trip.
I think she's a great housewife.
I'm a hundred percent sure she should be asked back.
I don't see why she wouldn't be.
And so that was a great addition on Bravo's part.
Yeah, no, she's been great.
And the trip looked fun.
We'll see what happens who they replace Garcelle with.
But it's crazy that Garcelle left because of alienation
and not just, oh, you know, in my son's high school year.
Yeah, and it does make her look a little silly
that she dropped it like right before the trailer.
Cause it's like, you like clearly lied, you know?
Yeah, it makes her look silly.
Yeah, but it is, I think like a cautionary tale
for women who go on the show,
because a lot of times people do find success
in being like a mouthpiece and being like a sidekick,
almost not a sidekick, a part of a dynamic duo.
And when your whole personality is your friendship,
it's very Danielle from Summer House.
You're literally Lindsay's mouthpiece
and you're known for fighting Lindsay's battles.
And it's like, well, where did that get you?
You're not on the show anymore.
You need to really establish an identity
outside of that one friendship
and make meaningful connections with other women.
Yeah, but I just feel like it didn't have to be this way
for Garcelle whatsoever.
I mean, Danielle is like, not even apples to apples,
because Garcelle has a huge personality I mean, Danielle is like, not even apples to apples, because Garcelle has like a huge personality.
She has a lot of strong opinions.
Like she's not just like mimicking what Sutton says,
you know, like she can fend for herself.
So I don't know why this season
she really just pigeon told herself
into being like Sutton's backup.
Yeah, it was a bad call.
And didn't like pursue relationships with the other women.
It wouldn't have been too late if she had done it
this season.
No, not at all.
She could have like struck up a friendship with Bose
and maybe Nazarite because like I think she,
she actually fucking hates Dorit.
Dislikes.
Like truly those two dis,
like actually more than Sutton and Dorit dislike each other
like Dorit and Garcelle like oil and water.
And I know I said this yesterday. But Kyle, But Kyle, like she could have worked on her friendship
with Kyle.
Through Sutton.
And it was so crazy,
because Sutton, like the way that she was framing everything
and they actually showed,
I mean, there was too much flashback footage.
It's like, we all saw this.
But that editor really has it out for Sutton.
Well, they said, like they were showing
how everyone attacks Sutton.
They were showing all those different,
and they showed nine frames of people attacking Sutton.
And then they also showed nine frames
of Sutton attacking other women.
And the things that Sutton is saying is so much worse
than the things that the other women are saying.
Like it's crazy that Sutton really sees herself
as this victim when it's like,
no, you give it right to them.
Like you start so much shit.
I know.
And that's why I feel what I said yesterday.
And I felt it even more on last night's episode.
It's like Sutton is the lightning rod of this group, right?
She's on the outs and she says the crazy things
and there's always somebody like that
and they frustrate you and they're annoying
but they make the show good.
And I just feel like she's really not a worthy,
she's not a good lightning rod.
She's weak, she cries.
She doesn't, I feel like we're gonna continue on
with this Sutton storyline for the next because it is the storyline and I just, I don't, like, I feel like we're gonna continue on with this Sutton storyline
for the next, because it's like, it is the storyline.
And I just, I don't find her interesting.
I'm actually really ready for her to leave.
She's like the opposite of Lisa Rinna,
where it's like, you could say what you want now
about Lisa Rinna, but like, she was interesting.
She was-
She was tough.
And she was wild, like, and she had a backbone.
Like, Sutton is just here one day, there the next.
It's boring, and it's just not, she's not a good villain.
Yeah, at least right now also though,
like with some, it just felt like she would say anything.
Yes, and there was a point where she was really nuts.
Yeah, so that wasn't always the greatest,
but we'll see what happens at the reunion
now that everyone has said, seen what everyone else has said
and what's been going on all season.
Like I think- Right, I liked that Erica responded
on Watch What Happens Live because Garcelle, you're right,
has been like particularly shady in all of her confessionals this season. And she think- I liked that Erica responded on Watch What Happens Live because Garcelle, you're right, has been like particularly shady
in all of her confessionals this season.
And she said something really fucking nasty
last night out of nowhere.
Like in her confessionals, she was talking about Erica.
She's like, well, you know, I married for love.
She married for money.
Okay, first of all, we weren't even talking about marriage.
Like, I don't know why, objection, relevance.
And Andy asked if Erica wanted to respond to that.
And she was like, yeah,
we both married like ugly old white men
and we both got cheated on.
So at least I had the money.
It was a good response.
Cause I also thought it was a weird thing for Garcelle
to say it would have been made more sense
if she was still married to that person.
Like, look, you married for love
and look what you got a beautiful relationship.
You didn't get anything you got cheated on.
So why are you bragging about that?
It was a great response. It was a great response.
That is really, really funny.
And then next week at the reunion,
like they talk obviously about the Sutton Wallet comment.
And then to read is like to Sutton,
like you act like you live like the queen of the Shiba.
You live off a main road.
And you know what?
We brought that up and I'm glad somebody did.
Now there are a lot of rumors
like Jareed hasn't been able to pay her glam people
for like them doing her makeup for the reunion.
So it is the pot calling the kettle black,
but somebody needed to say it.
I don't know, she could get on Cameo
and pay off her glam bill.
And she should, I'd pay for one.
My sister Jax loves sourdough and Bruno.
And I just want to say we are tracking for an asafi.
So just keeping that in mind.
Oh yeah, and I'm good to go.
That's all from us.
Tomorrow, Jackson and I are gonna be in person
in our new Pagie studio.
And we've got a big weekend of things.
Well, not, we have big latter half things.
Jackson's coming to town, we'll be recording in person.
We are recording actually a guest interview.
You know we don't really do guest interviews,
but an opportunity came across our desk and-
And it's not Nikki Blonsky.
Oh, thank you so much for reminding me.
They passed.
Nikki Blonsky passed.
They're like her team passed.
I'm like, okay, so her?
She responded, no.
She's so wrong for that.
She would have an amazing time.
She would, and also it's really not smart to alienate
two of your biggest fans, you know, like OG fans.
No, not at all.
Who are like getting you more cameos,
who are saying you to up your price.
Yeah, who are championing you
long before everyone else started.
Yeah.
And everybody is kind of laughing at her right now.
We are laughing with her.
100%.
Or we were up until her passing on our show.
Not cool, Mickey.
So we've got a photo shoot.
So we've got the next big thing.
Next big thing. Yeah.
Yeah, right.
We couldn't get Mickey Blonsky, so we got,
you're gonna say, you guys are really gonna be shocked.
The same but different.
Very, very, very similar.
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