The Toast - Sisters in Reflux: Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Clodden, we're your host. It's your favorite show. The Fast Five Things You Need to Know. We'll start your day off, Swirley. It's the Toast. It's the Toast. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday. It is Humph-day. don't forget to hum someone you love and speaking of sorlays that I particularly adore and would love just the opportunity to hum but I know I'm asking for too much it's jackie oh hey jacks how you done hey durn good happy to be here frog in my throat I'm like cracking up even though it's not funny we haven't podcasted for two months and of course the week that we come back frog in my throat I have like so much going on mucus mucus cough sore throat like when I coughed sore throat like when I off. It hurts my throat. I pee my pants. It's just a lot. A podcaster's nightmare. I know I left you guys on a cliffhanger yesterday about what we were going to do with redheads. And we did record last

night. And it requires so much editing from my coughing. I can't breathe because also like my lungs are compressed. So it's just my body was not like listening to my body. My body is saying we're not fit to podcast. And I'm saying I don't care. I'm not listening to you. No, it's kind of like, you know, breaking your ankle as a basketball player. Our voices are instrument. It is our most prized possession. No, like a few days ago, I was like, what if I lost my voice and I legit could not podcast? This morning I was drinking hot water with...

You spoke it into existence. No, no, no. I was just like, that's a real concern. Like, I can still podcast like this. It might be like frustrating. I know you guys hate the frog in my throat. Like even when I don't have one, you guys hear one. Yeah, they're like always making it up to jack him a frog in her throat or is it just made.

So like, today I have multiple frogs. This morning I was drinking hot water with lemon. honey like really I felt like Ariana Grande like okay hot water with lemon is like so anorexic like it's such a great it's such a crazy thing to order I feel like on housewise like people are always ordering it when they like meet for whatever and I've actually never been in the presence of a psychopath who orders hot water with lemon like acting like it's a dish you know it's such a crazy thing now I understand you were doing it for medicinal purposes But if anyone in your life is ever.

But also because I am anorexic. Yeah, if anyone in your life is ever, like, sitting down in a serious way ordering hot water with lemon, like, be concerned about them. It's an extremely concerning thing to order. Or they're just a podcaster who is trying their best to push through a tough time. We've had, like, rolling sickness in our house the last few weeks of summer. And you know what? I'm fed up.

Yeah. Sometimes when I'm getting sick, I just decide, kind of like with my period. I just decide that it's over. Do you know what I mean? it's like it's not because I'm still bleeding but like in my mind it's over no it's like so not over just when is it going to be over I'm just I'm fed up it's really inconveniencing it's paining me I'm pregnant I'm like I'm like throwing up in the night for my acid reflux then like that hurts my throat which makes me cough which makes me pee like I can't that's so funny I for very

different reasons also had acid reflux last night because you were chug a luggin yeah because I had like a couple of cocktails that were really sugary the honey juice the official cocktail of the U.S. Open. What did your sack get to? So I had like something really unfortunate happen, like not to be a victim. But when you go to the U.S. Open and you pay $25 for a cocktail, that's how much it is, the honeyduce. They come in these like souvenir cups and it makes you feel better about the fact that you just spend $25 on a cocktail. And the first honey juice I got was like, we were just walking the ground. So it was like this like random bar. And they were like, we don't have cups. And I was like, okay, so it's free. Like,

It was just, it was the same price. They just gave me a plastic cup and I said, okay. But you can't take a picture of that. Correct. So this one I was drinking just to drink, not to take a picture of. The second one I got. The second one I got was at a bar in a different stadium because I went to go see the doubles match. And the bartender said, I said, I may I have two honey deuses?

Please, I got one for men. He said, yeah, we don't have cups or melon, which is like the signature garnish. They have cantaloupe, like, balled out to look like a tennis ball, kind of like an olive. in a martini they put it on a toothpick it's so delicious it looks like a grape they ball it to perfection she was like we don't have mel and they charge me full price no no melon no cup full price recession indicator so i was like all right this place sucks first of all but for the second match we're going to be in a suite it's going to be parjie i'll slum it without my cup for the doubles match and then when i go to the joachovitch match i didn't know that there were people at the

u.s open suffering drinking honey juices that they couldn't even take a photo of so i get to the sweet. He said, hi, I have two honey deuses please. He said, yeah. Period. I said, oh, that's great. I'm so looking forward to my melons and my cup. He gives me two plastic cups. But I did get melon and, like, I had to take a picture in a plastic cup. It was humiliating. Like, I just want you to know. I didn't notice anything was awry as I tapped through your story last night. I just thought she was influencing from the U.S. Open, like with the best. of them. No, I wasn't. I was with the worst of them because I didn't even get a cup, okay? And I had to pay for like five drinks that I didn't even get the souvenir cup.

Yeah. Now, let me tell you about my evening because it was insane. Okay. We pull up to the men's, I told you guys yesterday, Spritz has sponsored these two athletes. They're a tennis doubles men's team. They're super young. They're super new. You probably haven't heard of them. And they are crushing it. Like a couple of days ago, they beat this huge, Italian team and they made it to the quarterfinals. The quarterfinals were last night. They were playing this huge Argentinian duo ranked number 10 in the world. They won. Like it was literally insane. They got interviewed on TV. They put on their spritz hats like me and men were screaming. It was so exciting. They're so good. And everybody wants to know like,

are they single? Are they single? I found out yesterday because you guys were like asking so many questions. And I was embarrassing. I like asked like the coach. I'm like, are they single? One is and one isn't. I forgot. I forgot who, which one is which. So. I don't know if that helps anyone. You have to do the work yourself. Yeah. I feel like, no, I'm like not sure at all. They won.

It was so exciting. They're playing again today. So if you're like keeping up at the U.S. Open, like make sure to cheer on our boys, Robert Cash and J.J. Tracy. I forget who they're playing today. But obviously someone good because now it's like the semifinals. Like it's, we're just huge. As the owner of the team.

Yeah, as the Mark Cuban of the doubles team. I don't think I'm going to go. Like I went to the U.S. Open. Like I went hard. you know, yesterday. Like, went, I saw everyone. I took a picture. Like, I did everything.

And it's like, it's good, you know? And I like watching tennis in person, but I also really like watching it on TV. You scratched that itch. Yeah. But it was so exciting that our boys won. Like, I cannot believe we just, like, found ourselves. It's so us. It's honestly, it's so Ben.

Like, to find himself in the middle of a major cultural moment. You know, he's the Boris Gump of pop culture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's classic. It's the Ben effect. And it's trickled down to us, and so I'm enjoying it.

But it does, it does stem from Lish. It does, it's the most bad thing to ever happen. It's such a thrill. I cannot wait to watch and play today. Huge. Huge. Well, I'm glad you had fun.

I'm glad you got your U.S. open fix. Oh, and then I had acid reflux from all the honeyduses. That was my point. So we were sisters in reflux last night. From all the grand monies, you know? Yeah. Sisters in round ligament pain. just all of them.

Stack it up. Stack it up. Well, we're wishing you well. How are you feeling on like a mood basis today? Good. I'm excited. I feel like today's going to be textbook toast. The stories are just like so stories.

And as promised, we have dear toasters. I'm excited for dear toasters. And they're hysterical. I was chuckling to myself while reading them before. A nice mixed bag, you know? Yeah, love that. Of the swirlies at different life stages. I'm sure they've had a tough summer.

Of course The girls are in dire straits We're here We're like super nanny We are like super nanny I'm on my way Oh my Sorry it had to be done

I was fading You take you sense I was fading I didn't actually no Okay like my voice was getting like lower and lower So I just oh I just had to do it I was kind of focusing on my voice I couldn't wait until the ad break

Like it had to be done It was such a thrill to be back yesterday And have so much fanfare right Like I know you're not on TikTok but like there was a million TikToks I saw like oh my toes is back the toes back comments comments were like number three in the charts everybody's like you know eating it up and I love that let's keep it up maybe every day yeah that kind of energy that like sort of tagging us that you're watching and listening content engaging comment like subscribe I'm not on TikTok but like I got a lot of mentions in my mentions highlight people enjoying the episode and I'm just I'm so happy we're all back together nature is healed it feels good yeah it's definitely does feels that feels right things TFR TFR speaking of that feels right redheads episode like we read this book called the bright years have you heard of it no I think it's like I've kind of taken a step back from the book space yeah me as well but I do

think it's like swirling around okay um there was very disvisive opinions disvisive disvisive yeah let me guess margot and writ against you and data no no you and margot against Dana and Ritt. No. You and Ritt against Dana and Margo? Yeah, mostly, yeah. Damn. Yeah, Dana and Margo aligned.

This hasn't happened since Dolly Alderton, all the things I know about love. The worst book. That was the last book that they both loved so much. Oh my God, like you guys sold me so hard on that book, and it was like one of the worst experiences in my life. I'm sorry. It was mid for me. Like, it was good, but mid.

Yeah. So that's what I've been up to. And just my, I finished organizing my closet with my closet organizer yesterday. So I just have like peace, you know. My home is like getting back to, it's actually back to status quo. Continuing to throw things in the garbage. I love that. Garbage, garbage, garbage.

One thing about me, like, I'm going to throw it in the garbage, you know? Oh, what's this? Garbage. Yeah, I don't care. I'm always throwing things in the garbage. Ben came in today and he was like, have you seen my turmeric? And I was like, no, I haven't seen your turmeric. There's a high likelihood I threw it out yesterday.

I was on like a big sweep. There's more turmeric to be found. If he misses a few days, he'll be okay. It is what it is till it ain't anymore. But actually, his tumor habits and his commitment to the software wellness, longevity institute, like does vote well for his sourdough journey that, like, he has that discipline in him. Except, like, I could see him getting nutty.

You know, people get crazy. Like, Olivia makes, like, you know, blueberry egg mcuffin sourdough. Ben's going to be making, like, turmeric gloves. Oh, for sure. But you have time till that happens. Like, we got a breadbox. He's going to be so hopped up on just sourdough, plain and simple. And then he could also get to inclusions.

Like, it'll be a while until he takes it to the next level. But he called me yesterday, like, looking for advice. And I was like, he was telling me how he fed his starter. He's like, I dump some out and then I put in more. I was like, you have to put it in like another jar at some point. Every once in a while you can use the same jar two days in a row. But like, you do need fresh. He was like, I only have one jar.

Oh, wait, not anymore. So he didn't Instacart from the dollar store and got like 15 Mason jars. They arrived, Jackie. They're tiny. Yeah, that's not going to work. They're the wrong size. He's like, I'll use them for pickling. he'll use them for jams like how is this my life like my kitchen is full of like yeast and pickles i can't

i'll use them for pickling okay pickling you'll never see the fruits of because you don't like pickles but just wait till the bread comes yeah it's a loaf story i'm open i know you are you're so open minded I really am I just want to say I really am I'm constantly like changing my mind learning you know new information and changing my mind constantly I've been listening to so much Sam Hunt constantly after immense years long pressure campaigns you are constantly changing your mind and I know what people are going to say well Claudia have you changed your mind yet I'm just too well Tony oh I wasn't even thinking that and the answer is no No. Only now because I can't.

Right. You're stuck. I have to be team Blake forever. You have to be principled. And the thing is, if I ever get to a point where, like, I do switch sides, it will be more so, like, out of dislike for Blake lively. I will never be championing. Like, I'm not buying what Justin Baldoni is saying. However, I could see a world in which in this, like, we learn more and the case comes out that, like, I'm not siding with Blake anymore. But just to be clear, like, I ain't ride in with Justin ever. Okay. I think that's fair. Yeah.

There was something else I was thinking about. Like, so it reminds me of Blake and Justin where it's like, it took up so much of our brain space for so long, like, so passionate. And now it's like, my position is I don't give a rip. Yeah, it's really, yeah. You know what else I feel that way about now? Like something you cared so much about.

Like something that was so, like, hot. Everyone was like hot take, not even hot take, but like opinionated, like big story. And now I'm just like, I don't give a fuck. Love Island? No. You were on maternity leave. so maybe it'll slip your mind,

but because football's back in session and UNC played this weekend, Bill Belichick and Jordan. Oh, I love Bill Belichick and Jordon. Did you see she filed a trademark for a jewelry company named Gold Digger? I did, and it's like, when I see them together now,

I don't give a fuck. Oh, man, you want to ruin your life? Go ahead. Like, that's not my problem. And I don't feel passionate about it anymore. I agree. It was fun for like a week. And now it's become like,

it's like they're just a couple that gets followed and lots of paparazzi and lots of stories. And I'm off the train. I was on though for the week. And I think that the train should have been stopped there. Yeah. But of course it kept going. But they had like a swirly summer together.

They're very much together. He doesn't give a fuck what you all think about him. Neither does she. So like live in peace. Go off. I don't care. Pop off, Jordan. Pop off Jordan.

Yeah. That's like it's, it's as simple and as complicated as that. Yeah. So it's funny how you can like feel so strongly about something and then it just dissipates. Yeah, well, I think that's kind of the culture now, right? Like there's so much content, so much news, so many famous people. It's, you get so oversimulated, everybody, you're talking about something extensively nonstop for two weeks and then you never hear about that person again.

Yeah, but does it make you think about how you react to those things in the moment? Do you feel like pressure to have the big feelings about it? Okay, so there are a lot of pop culture stories where everyone's like tagging me or you because they think it's like something you really care about. And I hate to disappoint people by saying, like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I do feel sort of pressure to have big feelings about stuff sometimes. And I'm going to leave that.

I'm going to leave that in Q3. Big little feelings. Stop, I love them. We need to tell everyone. Of course. We need to tell. Have we not told that story before? We never told this story.

Jackie sent me a graphic like a year ago of this podcast called Big Little Feelings. And it was literally us in 10 years. It's like a redhead, like a light porcelain skin. Does she have red hair? She has red hair. She has my coloring. And then like literally me, like a brunette.

And they have a podcast and they were like, Jackie sent me a clip of theirs. And they were filming in front of like banana leaf wallpaper. And I was like, oh my God, is this our future? It was literally like looking into a crystal ball. Their podcast is called Little Feelings. It's about motherhood and parenthood. And apparently it's like a huge podcast.

They recently signed to Dear Media actually. Right. Right. It is a huge podcast. They have like a really big Instagram page too. And it is literally us in 10 years. it was the craziest thing to see it was the craziest thing and i kind of love that their artwork looks like ours not even because i'm not nothing like copying or anything just because they are us yeah and it's

like they're sitting with a microphone hello podcasting and they're us and they're women and their girls and so it's pink and it's green yeah a thousand percent so that always sparks joy for us when we see them out in the sphere it's so true speaking of the sphere speaking of the sphere I kind of want to go. Yeah, but like of everything you've seen there, what would you want to go most for? Nothing. So they're not catering to me, which is completely fine, but like Grateful Dead,

must-a-miss, backchie boys, don't give a fuck. Wizard of Oz. Okay, so I saw the Wizard of Oz. That's like the one I was like, damn. But it wasn't a concert? No, it was like a 360 movie with like you could feel the tornado. So I think that would actually make me nauseous. So again, pass.

I had heard whispers about Miley maybe doing a residency there would love I need them to have someone there that I personally care about and then I'm down to make a trip a bit. I agree. Rascal Flats at the sphere Take me there. Or like

literally anyone. Like I don't even, it just needs to be my favorite person. It doesn't need to be like Taylor Swift or Luke Holmes. Like someone I like. Like someone you would enjoy. Yeah. I'm down. I'm telling you Vegas is looking so attractive. Let's go. Like sponsored by Vegas okay you know what I mean I feel like the way we've been talking about me especially it sounds like I'm getting paid by the tourism board of Las Vegas and to be clear I'm not no no no I would

take their money and I would do it still I would take their money and bet it all on red but I'm just telling you like Vegas sounds like a good idea at this stage in my life Vegas is always a good idea yeah it's not true I actually I happen to love Vegas like in my entire lives. I actually think it would be a fun trip to take with kids. It's a little too far to just do like a weekend trip with kids from like the East Coast. But if I lived in L.A., I'd be in Vegas.

So there are two reasons why I think living in L.A. Oh, remind me, I want to tell you something about Spencer Pratt. Two things about living. I have a notebook for that. Oh, great. There, nothing makes me want to live on the West Coast or L.A. specifically, except for two things. One, to proximity to Vegas.

We really don't have an equivalent to that in the East Coast. And I know everyone's going to say in Atlantic City, but please, if you've ever been there, you know it's nothing like Vegas. I do, like, get jealous that people can do, like, weekend trips to Vegas. That's really fun. I also get jealous that they get to watch the sunset over the ocean as opposed to rise because, like, I'm never awake for the sunrise, but I'm always awake for the sunset.

Yeah. Speaking of Spencer Pratt, I saw something when we were on break that was so crazy because we talked about it on the toast fire aid. Remember that, like, concert that all the celebrities and musicians put on to, like raise money for victims of the Palisades. Yeah, fire raid. So Spencer Pratt is on his investigative journalism shit and it turns out like none of the money

Billy Elish and Alanis Morissette raised. And it was like $100 million. I think it was like $60 or $50 million that they raised. Round up. Almost none of it. Sorry, not almost. None of it has made it to. Any victim of the fire. Right. And then Spencer posted this clip

like investigating. So the money, if you read their website, they were raising money. This is always shady when like an organization is raising money for another organization. It's like, well, you're the organization. Like do the work. So they were giving money to like a hundred organizations. And he posted this clip.

I got to find it. It was really good. But that festival that we talked about extensively, like all the celebrities getting together in like 72 hours, pretty much helped nobody. Right. And where's the accountability? Well, it's on Spencer Pratt's Instagram.

Like, where's the apologies? First of all, where's the money? You know, let's get the money to the people. But then it's like, well, who's the fraudster here? Who's going to jail? I want to see some jail time. And then it's like Fire Festival. Do we blame, you know, Emily Radikowsky?

Do we blame Billy Eilish? Like the celebrities involved who obviously, like, most likely didn't know about it. But they should feel stupid, but I don't blame them. I don't like, I don't think there's malice there. But feel stupid, definitely. Legally. And think. like before you lend your time and your energy to a fruitless, fraudulent cause,

maybe lend it to a fruitful cause. It might be nice. Lots of fruit. So I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't feel as though we should dilly-dally that much more because we do have dear toasters and I don't want to rush. I agree. I'm ready to get into the fast five stories that you not do need to know. And the fast five stories that you not do need to know are brought to you by Draft Kings.

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This is just, you know, like, we're back to normal when this is our lead story. The Dancing with the Stars cast. I actually have found this announcement to be quite exciting, and I am going to credit that to Mrs. Earl. Of course. She was like one of the only people. they announced yet.

Seeing her official photos. I didn't see her in her tart. Look at her Instagram. She posted like the official photos and it's like it just, it really feels like two worlds coming together because the photos are like so commercial

but like she's so TikTok and Instagram and I was happy to see her in that environment. They're leading with her, right? She was one of the only people who was announced as a cast member months ago and then she went on

GMA this morning and announced the rest of the cast. They're clearly like betting on Alex which I love like seeing the value in the Earl girl. Oh, look at her. She looks so cute. Right.

Doesn't that make you excited? No, one thing about our show, I'm not going to watch. I'm not watching. I am a fan. Like, she's so cute. I feel like she's just like a fun-loving gal. Oh, man, she looks so cute. Yeah.

And I don't really know what it means. People are like, whenever someone gets cast, like, I need to know who her partner is. Like, I don't know what it means, but she's partnered with Valentin. Now, I feel like he's an OG. Like, that's a good one. Yes. Also, I only care when people are partnered if, like,

the person is like single eligible and they wind up with someone like single and eligible because a lot of like love matches do come from dancing with the stars right he is married to a fellow dancer they have kids together she's with braxton she's not going anywhere she loves braxton well think about alex earler she loves that guy she really loves him it's really beautiful it is like not her you know hawking over every week to houston yeah as if she doesn't have enough going on she just like really loves him that's all that is i love that Because, like, she could be doing it, and I would have loved it, too, if she was, like, you know, bopping around, dating Leonardo DiCaprio.

Like, she literally could. She could date whoever she wanted. And that would be fun, and she'd be in the paparazzi lot, and it'd be cool. But, like, she's chosen stability. And I love that. She's chosen love. And I think we could all learn something from Alex Earl, because this is a girl with endless options, right?

She could date anyone. And not that there's literally anything wrong with Braxton. He's, like, a hot NFL player. But, like, she chose someone, like, stable, someone's safe, not like the coolest, richest guy who was going to, like, cheat on her, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I love that.

Really beautiful. So here's the cast of Dance With Star. Some of them we did already know. First, we have Olympic gymnastical medalist Jordan Childs, a perfect casting. We always need an Olympian. We do. Is it fair? Because she's literally a professional twirler.

It's more fair than other things have been. Yes. We have Dylan Efron, who won Traders. Spoiler alert and is brother of Zach. Yes. We have Boy Meets World alum, Danielle Fisiel, Topanga. Tepanga, cute. We have, oh, cover your ears.

Pentatonic singer, Scott Hoying. Okay, so I know I'm from TikTok. I like him. And, you know, by the way, harking back to the earlier conversation we had here, normalized learning new information and changing your mind. I used to think pentatonics was like annoying and corny. And then I heard their cover of, there can be miracles when you believe,

you believe the hope is for it. Like, and I changed my mind. Yeah. No, they're really a talented bunch. It's amazing what they can do without instruments. It really is. Also, Elaine Hendrix from Parent Trap, from Dynasty, Mike Queen.

She's such a great actress. I'm excited for her. That's like the perfect casting, like Alex Earl, like somebody huge on the rise. And Meredith Blake, like someone, not on the down, but like, it's the perfect. A traditional celebrity. Yeah.

Yeah. It's parjee. NBA All-Star Baron Davis. Congrats, Baron. Actor and musician Corey Feldman. Of course. He's a child actor. Yeah.

Fifth Harmony singer, Lauren Dragi. Okay. Your inability to say her name. You said it yesterday too. I think it's her reggae. I'm trying out different things. It's Lauren Haragi, the one with the hole in her tights in the crotch from yesterday, the Jonas Brothers performance.

um cool yeah you guys i keep seeing more footage of the performance and i can't look away which part of it is most shocking to you for me it's the hole in the crotch like that's just insane for me it's the out of sinkness for sure of course but that's textbook at 5h like when you like pause it like they're all doing something different yep yep yeah um and then also when you watch each one of them individually like they really are trying and that makes it harder to watch and the thing is if you just focus on normani and everything else is like blurred she's slaying yeah in the greater picture she looks insane like no the more she slays like the harder it is to watch i can't explain it you know the whole thing was seriously insane but the crotch rip takes the cake yeah um and

comedian Andy Richter. Additionally, we already knew about Robert Irwin, the son of Steve Irwin, and Jen Affleck and Whitney Leavitt from Secret Lives. Her last name is Levitt. Are you okay? There's an A. Shout out to the A. There's an A because she's not Jewish.

Like if there was no A, she would be Jewish. Yeah. They actually have the upper hand here. They're really good dancers. They've got pizzazz. I could see one of them. winning. Whitney Levitt is an insane dancer. She's been coming up all over my TikTok and she always dance, but she's obviously been doing more dances like since the Dancing with the Stars news.

Jenna Affleck is like one month postpartum. Yeah. She looks insane. She looks amazing. Those women like, we were saying the last time we recapped Secret Lives and Mormon Wives that it's such an amazing show because they're all like actively in their childbearing years and they're not being like pushed to the side. Like, there's stars. Yeah. And it's so realistic. Like, they're on a girl's trip and one of them's, like, pumping

while they're having a fight. Like, it's really, it paints this era of life, like, really nicely, and it's nice that they're, they're stars, you know, at this stage. But they're becoming a little unrealistic. Like, they're so, like, skinny.

For women. They're so skinny. They're so perfect. Like, they're all becoming so rich in, like, perfect looking. Also, did you see that Macy and Michaela named their daughters the same name? Yeah, they're both like Charlotte.

One's Lottie and one's. Charlie that's crazy yeah I mean they're not related so it's cute no and but they are different names Charlie and Lottie I don't know if I knew that like Lottie was charlotti and I'm sure you've seen about Whitney Leavitt that like two of her kids their names come from the same name like she has a Liam and have Billy which are both William oh my god I never realized Liam was William Liam comes from William yeah and then Billy no this doesn't bother me though because Liam these days like if your kid's name is Liam yeah yeah yeah I think what needly of it could take it all.

And I just want to say, I agree. Like, it's, it's, um, they're setting like a high standard for like postpartum women and pregnant women. They're at Coachella dance with their bellies out. Like, and that couldn't be me. But like, up until this point, like this period of life has been skipped over. You know, we either see like Jersey Shore or we see family vacation, like, or real housewives when you're like done.

Totally. And I talked about this in my episode with Jesse when she came on the toast. That it's really amazing for women what they're doing. And just like I completely agree Like they're still in the mix They're more relevant than ever Like nothing is really slowing them down And it's like also on the other side

Like if you want to slow down please do We all do Yeah of course But like the fact that you don't have to I think it sends a great message So I love them I hope they do great And new season comes like soon November they just announced

I can't wait It's what's the best show Has a new man Does she? She posted a couple days ago Like a carousel and then one of them Like she's with a guy with a guitar my phone volume like wasn't playing so I didn't hear what he was singing but up until recently I didn't

follow them on TikTok I just let the show like tell me what was going on on TikTok but I've started to follow Taylor Frankie Paul Whitney I always follow Jesse because she's a toaster and I feel like I'm you get like two seasons you get the show on TikTok and then you get the show in real life it's literally the best show it's the best show I love it so I'm excited to hear about Taylor's man and she moved and we're going to to see Dancing with the Stars, I assume. Yeah. On the show, because it's a Hulu ABC syndicate.

Yes. Also, Hilaria is on this season. We already knew that. Eladia, yes. And did you see pictures of Eladia and Alec at the U.S. Open? Sitting behind Anandor. Sitting behind Anandor, like, it's insane that they get those seats. It's like, because his star has fallen so much through so many things.

And she's like fucking crazy. And I just know. And Alec is looking so miss. giving Bradley Cooper at Wimbledon, but like the low budget version. Yeah, no, that was crazy. They were seated behind her on Real House House of Miami. Martino was talking about a time she wore like tennis shoes in the royal box at Wimbledon. She was sitting behind Kate Middleton and Megan Markle in the Royal Box.

They like put up a photo. Oh, like that one time they went to the women. Martina's right behind them. She should be like she's a Wimbledon champion, but it's like, let's hear from me. Yeah, she's like the greatest tennis player, female. One of the greatest of all time. I've been watching a lot of tennis. And actually, Martina's name comes up a lot

when the commentators are just talking about women's tennis history. It's insane how, like, legit she is. No, no, no. She actually, like, if I had to think of like five women's, famous women tennis players. Oh, my God. And Julia's there too.

This is so, by the way, all roads lead to Bravo. It's really crazy. Yeah. I thought that was a crazy picture. It's the craziest picture I've ever seen. I didn't realize Julia was there. That's even crazier. So they went twice to Wimbledon.

It's the one where Kate is wearing the green dress. Yeah. This is insane. This is the craziest piece of information you could have dropped in my lap. I watched more Real Housewives of Miami last night. They're in Seville. The girls are fighting. And by the way, I have something to say.

So I know I was like waiting to see how I felt about Larson Lisa. Lisa. They're both a little way. I love them both. I love them both. I've made my decision. I think you're going to be Team Larsa. I'm team Larsa.

Yeah, the vibe that I was getting from the first, like, five episodes that we watch is, like, Lisa's fucking crazy. She's like, she's gone off the deep end. She's in this nutty relationship. Like, I don't think, like, I could trust her judgment. Larsa is like, you can say what you want about Larsa, but she's always herself. Yeah, no. And like, Lisa's just like very much like in her own way. It's just a cacabony of like chaos and it's all about her.

And like she doesn't like give back to her friends because like she has so much going on. And it's just like a. Annoying. Yeah. And Larsa, even on Kardashians, when she was fighting with that other friend of theirs. Yeah, yeah, Sarah or whatever. Yeah, that girl's trip. That girl's trip, even though like Sarah won out

because she's still friends with the girls and Larsa's not. She's just friends with Courtney, but yeah, she's still in the mix. But like Larsa just is a rational person. She's like a good thinker. She's a good fighter. She's not like off the deep end. Crazy. And I just, I like people like that.

Like just a stable good head on her shoulders. Yeah. So I'm Team Larsa. I've made it my decision. Okay. I could have guessed. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Mm-hmm. A little more TV casting news because SNL introduced five new cast members in the wake of their season 51 exodus. So big shake up at XNL. We didn't talk about it, right? Like so many people were fired. They're fired?

So they let them announce, like, in a way that's ambiguous. But some people made it clear like, yeah, like I got to call into the office or I was on vacation and like I found out. Okay, so who's going? Oh, people, I know their faces. I don't know their names. Oh, okay.

Michael Longfellow. Longfellow? Yeah, that's why. That's why I remember. Longfellow deeds. I'm sure I could just like, grew it. Oh, Heidi Gardner's leaving. That was like a big one.

Yeah, I see Michael Longfellow. Michael Longfellow. Devin Walker. Like, you know their faces, but you don't know their names, which is probably why they were let go. Like, if you haven't made an impact, you get, I feel like year one is always hard. Year two, you can break out.

Yeah. If you're not really making waves by, year three, like it is your time to go. And there are multiple ways to make waves, by the way. Some people get cast to do skits and they end up, you know, writing a lot. Like, there are different ways, but I don't think the show will be negatively impacted by the loss of these people. Except Heidi, Heidi was a big one.

Yeah, she was. And so there's five new comedians who are joining. One of them is from that sketch comedy. Please Don't Touch. You know, they were... Please Don't Destroy. They were making videos for us and now they're not making them anymore. And then I guess one of them got a gig.

Oh, really? Yeah, those are your boys. As like a full-time cast member? Yeah. Colhane is his name. Please don't touch. Jeremy Colhane. I believe he's also a Nepo baby.

No, sorry. Marshall. I don't know. They all look the same. Okay, so the Nepo Baby got lost. SNL adds five new cast members and loses a nepo baby. So Ben Marshall, who's one of the three members of Please Don't Destroy. He was.

promoted to a feature player, along with a bunch of other comedians. But John Higgins, who is the NEPO baby, his dad is the... Is Ben Higgins? Yes, from The Bachelor. No. His dad is the guy on Jimmy Fallon, who wears the glasses, who's like the MC. Got it. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Steve Higgins is his name. He's leaving the show. And then the third member, Martin, will stay on as a writer, but the group is effectively breaking up and will not produce their signature behind. behind-the-scenes sketches for SNL anymore. That's a shame because those sketches were good. They were one of the better parts of the show.

Agreed. So I feel like they should have done more of it, bring them all on, but I don't know. Agreed. And I think when people criticize SNL for not being like really relevant anymore and not engaging in like internet culture, they say besides for please don't destroy and Bowen Yang. Like those are like the two things

that like SNL got right. And with this new wave, everyone's very excited about the girl Veronica. Mm-hmm. because she's like big internet. She has like a big like following. So that's, they're getting a lot of credit for like finally leaning in like casting people.

Because yes, you know, comedy is old school and traditional. But like comedy largely exists on the internet now. And that's how so many people get discovered. And I'm honestly like I didn't know this Veronica girl, but everybody seems really excited. Yeah. And so I'm excited for the S&L viewers.

Yes. That is not us. But they exist, I hear. So I hope you are, you know, catered making your. target demo happy with this. Love that. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

A little legal news because Cardi B was found not liable in a $24 million assault lawsuit. So an L.A. jury has cleared Cardi B. of assault accusations from a security guard that originally sued her for $24 million over the alleged attacked. I'm sure everyone saw the photos and videos and outfits and... She's been making lots of news, being really funny. Being really funny and being very honest on the stand. After the verdict was announced, Hardy spoke to the press outside of the courthouse and said it's been really tough to deal with the

case in the middle of her album rollout, adding that she missed her daughter, her kids first day of school on Tuesday. She said, quote, the next person to try to do a frivolous lawsuit against me, I'm going to counter sue and I'm going to make you pay because this is not okay. She added, people have this misinterpretation of celebrities like, oh, well, we can ask for this and they're going to settle. Don't you ever think that you're going to sue me and I'm just going to settle and just give you my money? It's not going to happen. I love. She's right, by the way. A lot, like we're a notoriously litigious nation and when it comes like wealthy people companies celebrities people just file frivolous lawsuits because it's cheaper for them to settle give you a 50 grand and then spend all

this money on lawsuits and I'd like that she said up to a trial and testify absolutely not it reminds it's like Gwyneth yeah I think she should counter sue this person though like no don't wait till the next one do it now agreed I love this I think it's a great precedent I think she should do I don't think she should wait another minute. Me neither. More of this. Agreed. Everybody's so afraid. Like, I'll just settle. No. No, but it's also like she had, she had to take time out of her day.

Go to the courthouse. Testify. It's very like a serious business. Miss first day of school. So it's like maybe you settle also for at a convenience. Of course it makes your life easier. No. I love that. Like counter sue. Yeah. And if you sue someone. You lose. You have to pay their legal bills. That's what they, that's what I, that's what I learned like that's what I was taught it's true so this person's paying Cardi's legal bills I guess it might be like state by state it's not like a federal law I think that's one of our

better laws I totally agree yeah like the founding father's eight with that they slayed like who thought of that because it's true like because then you could just I guess it stops people from really being frivolous if I could just go around suing whoever I want and there's like a 50 50 chance someone on a jury is going to agree with me like yeah I'll be filing shit left right and center yeah so it is it stops people from being like insanely frivolous although people like they still do it they still they still take that risk but it's just it's not a zero risk game yeah so shout out to john hancock to the supreme court yeah you did you put your your whole secrecy into that yes you did are you ready for our next story

Are you ready, kids? What time is it? I mean, what time is it? I'm cracking up. What story is it? Number four. I feel like you're ready and then you won't be ready. Kim Kardashian is sparking a debate.

Yeah, I like that. I'll be ready and then I won't be ready. Inside baseball. Right. If you know, you know. Oh. Kim Kardashian is doing what now? She's sparking a debate over her controversial parenting take.

So this story is multi-pronged because Kim did a live stream with Kai Sinat on Mafia Thon 3 over the weekend. I guess she's like... Which you're obviously like a huge fan of. I actually know Kai because of Prime and the Paul Bubbers. Of course. Because I watched the Paul American. I know Kai. Do you know Kai?

I do. I don't know Mafia on 3, but I think she did like a Twitch stream. She's trying to reach the Twitchers. And she shared a thought about parenting that's sparking some debate. I'm curious to get your thoughts. Okay, but before we get into it, that's so funny, I did not think that she was trying to get into streamers. I feel like she did this because she's a good mom.

Because St. Is obviously, like, obsessed with these streamers and he, like, loves where her blocks. And I'm sure he, like, wanted to be on the stream, but she was never going to let him go by herself. Because, like, seriously, seeing, her there she like threw a table like it was humiliating like it's something you would only do for your child who you love like literally Liz Woods posted like oh Kim did Mafia 3000 or whatever and I literally

responded to Liz I'm like she's a good mom like seriously this is her being a good mom because image wise like she looked so stupid like that's really sweet I do think yes and that because her kids are so into it she sees like how big it is I don't know how big streaming is I would never if someone said you hey do you want to come on mafayathon three i would say no i don't know what that is and i don't know what it could do for me but i think that like she sees the opportunity too and like this is where the kids are this is where this is the future i'm going to go step into the future i'm going to debase myself anyways she said on the stream What did she say in the stream?

She said, you guys aren't going to believe it. I think I saw this clip, but I'm like forgetting what she said. She says she doesn't believe in homework. She said, I'm going to tell you. That's so crazy. She said, I'm going to tell you why. She said, kids are in school for eight hours a day. When they come home, they need to also, they do sports, have a life, spend time with their family.

I think that homework should be left for in school, she said. Okay, I actually agree with Kim. Like, when I think about the. the fact, Jackie and I, we went to a dual curriculum high school. So, like, we were in school from 8 to 445. That's literally the entire day. And then to go home and be expected to do with, like, any extracurriculars, that doesn't include, like, 445 is just the end of the classes. That doesn't include if you wanted to play a sport, play an instrument, like, pick up a hobby, then, I don't know, eat, spend time with your family, sleep, watch maybe 30 seconds

of television, and then do homework. Like, I've always felt like it was so stupid. But also, like, how but also like like I fucking hated school and like I didn't I didn't pay attention ever so like I also need to learn you know right and I wonder how valuable because practically to me it does sound valuable to like learn things in school and then go

home and see if you can do them on your own and if you can't then going back the next day and figuring it out like it does seem like a useful practice in order for the practical application of school policy of policy correct I think that like in terms of learning and you know what like as

a nation like we're kind of slipping yeah we're not crushing it's like maybe let's switch it up no I actually think I don't think more homework I think I'm against too much homework and I also don't have strong opinions about this yet because I'm not there yet yeah right I don't like really see and I don't remember what it was like to be in third grade and if that really was enriching for me to come home and do my homework um but I don't know if this is the time to loosen the reins on the children's education oh that's funny children are slipping no okay so I feel like the opposite. The children are slipping so what we're doing isn't working. And I think like maybe if the children were like better balance, like they had time to run around outside, get fresh air,

get off of their phones. Like maybe they wouldn't feel like they want to kill themselves at school. Like yeah, I just did this last night and now back in the morning I had to do it again. Like it's like, it's like crazy. Why aren't kids reading? Why don't they know how to read like they used to know? Okay. So like I can speak to somebody who like literally hated despised. the age for learning knowing how to read has increased over the years yes i don't know like a hundred years old kids were reading earlier than they are now like i i don't know i don't have opinions why is that why i don't know something's wrong in the curriculum so let's switch it up let's just try something new i actually agree with kim like i would rather my kids be like or try something old more well balanced doing lots of sports but

playing instruments, hanging out with their friends, being social and going to school, as opposed to just, like, school all the time. Like, sorry, some of the smartest kids I knew in school are, like, low-key failures now. It means nothing. Sorry. Yeah. I'm not anti-all homework, but I definitely think there should be balanced. And there are a lot of ways to learn, and it's not just through a workbook. Yeah, agreed.

And I, like, the classes and the teachers who were, like, really nuts about homework. And then you always had ones that were more relaxed. Because I think, like, as teachers, like, they all have different philosophies. as to like how effective homework is and maybe it's just because they gave me less work but i remember those classes and what i learned in the less homework ones more fondly and i feel like maybe what they taught me stuck more because they like respected my fucking time yeah and i also feel like there's like fun homework you know like practicing your letters love love that i guess learning cursive they don't learn that anymore by the way they don't know i i am okay with that i want to say

I just feel like it's a sign of the times. My only concern is that when the kids aren't learning cursive anymore and one of the kids who hasn't learned cursive becomes famous and somebody asks for an autograph, they're just writing their name in print? Yeah. Because that's the only application of cursive in my current life and when I sign a bill.

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talking about a Taylor Swift Super Bowl halftime show, potential. the potential for the show so yeah and shout out to was it savanna or jenniana for being really um like invested like she was not letting him get away with his like bullshit answer she kept asking follow-up questions that was good investigative journalism yeah so he wouldn't say much but he certainly did not rule out the possibility of taylor performing at the halftime show this year so he said we would always love to have taylor play she's a special special talent and obviously she would be welcome at any time savannah said is it in the works he said i can't tell you anything she

said is it a maybe he said it's a maybe i feel like he pretty much confirmed it just giving like body language i'm no b le obviously body language expert but i just got the vibe that he was like telling us and i feel like taylor is like pissed that he was not more subtle yeah i feel like he should have been more subtle but also a maybe is a maybe um also if she's not playing this is a good cover i think he did okay and i think that he will endear himself to the taylor fans by the way that he spoke about her like everyone says nice things, but I don't know, the way that, like, when he said special, special talent, like that came from the heart. Sorry, I know people don't like him, but I thought that was really heartfelt. Do you think he's a Swifty? Yeah, or like he just, I don't know if he listens to the

music, but like he just really respects her. I was getting, it was giving respect. Anyone else feel that? Maybe they're courting her so he wanted to be like really genuine. No, but everyone says nice things about her. What, you know, what crazy person who's in charge of a business is going to make an enemy of the Swifties? I just felt like the way that he spoke about her was with a lot of care and love. That's all I'm saying. Oh, so you think he's in love with her? I think he really admires her. I do. I mean, I love that. I feel like at this point, it's so crazy that Taylor has not performed

the halftime show. And then he said he's waiting on the hype. He said he's waiting on Jay-Z. He said it's in his hands. I'm waiting for the smoke to come out. So you just want to say, they have a good relationship, Taylor, Beyonce and Jay-Z. So it's not like there's beef. Like, I can't imagine why she wouldn't. It's weird that she hasn't. but I feel like people always like are like is Taylor gonna do it it's Taylor gonna do it

it's more this year than ever because of obviously like her engagement Easter eggs Easter eggs but I feel bad if it's not her for whoever it is because it's gonna be like

a major disappointment although for the last few years Miley's name has been thrown around quite a bit and I think she would be spectacular I would not be upset if it was her

and I do think her time is coming I would love that I also think it's good that Roger kicks it to Jay Z because now if it's not Taylor we can all blame Jay Z And I love when we have someone to blame for things. Yeah.

And I feel like he won't care if we blame him. It'll be like we'll feel righteous in our anger. 100%. But I hope at the end of the day that she is performing and that this is... Of course. Usually they announce soonish. Uh-oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Uh-oh. Are you okay? I'm fine. She says as she keels over. I'm fine. Well, I'll dive into Deer Toasters. While you come to yourself, how about that? I'm fine.

Anyways, also say, let's make a bet. Is Taylor performing Super Bowl? The evidence is extremely compelling. But every time I get myself, like, invested in a Taylor theory, like, the evidence is always compelling because she's a crazy person. And I get, like, clown on. But I do. I do.

I do. Especially because, like, I think they have this plan for, like, him to win the Super Bowl and retire. And if, like, she's doing her bit, like, I think that they're both extremely, um, ambitious people like i do i do i do i do i do i do as well okay that's our bet that's our take let's dive into dear toasters our weekly advice segment that is immensely popular so every tuesday this week wednesday jackie and i take submissions from the swirlies who are in need you guys can write to us about anything in the world marriage stuff baby stuff work stuff whatever it is we're going to do our

absolute best to help you you can submit by either emailing us dear toasters at gmail dot com or head on over to our website thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down there's a little submission box. All submissions are entirely anonymous. We will never blow up your spot. Let's dive in. Dear Toasters, I am 30 and my first friend in our friend group is pregnant. My friend group has always been super close since college. We've historically gone out, lived it up in our 20s, but we've all really, for the most part, could calm down. We still get together every other week, and my mom-to-be friend is always drinking with us. We thought it was weird at first, but she said her doctor says it's fine, as long as she doesn't get drunk.

The other girls and I have seen and started suggesting non-drinking activities, but she's still drinking every month with us. It's also like, is she doing that at home? She's six months pregnant, and I'm at the point where I feel like I need to say something, but I'm not a mom or a doctor. What would you do?

Please help, love you so much. I just want to say, I too am not a doctor, but I'm 100% sure the doctor will never tell you you can drink, but as long as you don't get drunk. It doesn't count. Like, that's not a thing that doctors tell pregnant women, just saying. is their official policy on having a drink because you know people say you can have a drink during

pregnancy in the third trimester that's not what she's doing by the way she's not having a drink she's having no she's getting drunk but also they say that in the third trimester she's only six months and like with what frequency do they say at the doctors i believe you can have a glass of wine a week i'm actually going to the doctor today should i ask do some research if i drink but i don't get drunk so you should ask dr fox like what's the send it to dr fox You can also just ask Chagabit. They say in the third trimester, you can have a glass of wine. You certainly cannot drink like vodka or tequila.

Did he say what she's drinking? No. She's getting drunk. And no, she's not doing what Emily Oster says you could do. Right. And regardless, she's drinking more than, you know, oh, go have a glass of wine here or there if you need to relax one night. It's not good for the baby. And by the way, Jackie, the girl is now six months pregnant.

And for the last couple of months, she's been doing this. So, like, really bad. It's really uncomfortable. I think your course of action here is to call the girl's mom or call the girl's husband. Like nothing, this girl's, your friend's an alcoholic. Hi, like if you can't stop drinking when you're pregnant, you're an alcoholic. And so anything you say to her is she's going to like, you know, rebut or come up with a lie. But you've seen firsthand that she's damaging not only herself, but the life of her baby.

And that involves people not her as well, right? It involves the father. It involves her potential grandparents. So yeah, call her mom. okay i like that i really don't have advice because it's i don't think confronting her is going to do anything no she knows what she's doing right um it's such a conundrum it's that's really like sad and unfortunate but maybe someone can restrain her from drinking for the next few months like seriously lock her up that's insane yeah that's it's fetal alcohol syndrome is extremely real and

yeah i i i can't imagine how i feel in this situation but like I feel like I wouldn't want to invite this person to these events one it's a buzzkill to have this tragic situation happening but also feel like responsible no no but not even because like oh we don't want her to drink she could stay home and drink but like I don't want to be around someone who's doing something so terrible that's not a fun night with the girls for me no not at all um call her mom yeah call the father yeah that's a good place to start and and stop inviting her like well yes I think

yeah this next one like genuinely made me chuckle ready hey Jackson clerk I need some serious help I just found out that my boyfriend got fired for him his job

over a month ago and he's been keeping it a secret the worst part is that he's been commuting to the city during work hours and sitting out of McDonald's near his old office in order to keep up his lie and he's just been like applying for jobs

we've been together for a year and he has a habit of lying do I give him a break or do I cause hell over this lie yeah that's bad yeah the thing is it's like I maybe could get past him not sharing that he got fired because like it's embarrassing but you sharing that he has a habit of lying like it's always it's not the crime it's the cover up like the fact that you're comfortable like living a true double life like you can this is the type of guy who has a second family of course eventually like

you could do this with anything but also it's like if you lost your job it's not a big deal like you can find another one but the fact that you're wasting your entire day at McDonald's applying for jobs like apply for jobs at home and do the dishes like you're unemployed now make yourself useful running out of the house every day, like, and if you're applying for jobs, like, I'm assuming like you work in corporate because you're traveling to the city for whatever, like, get a job as a waiter. Like, we have a house to support. Like, you just like floundering, doing nothing.

Agreed. You can't apply all day to jobs. Like, there are only so many job listings. It would be better if he, like, didn't tell you got fired. He started working from home and it turns out he's been applying. But, like, he's home. Instead, he's running away every day when, like, there are things you could be doing in the house, ways that you could be helping me.

Yeah. The, the dramatics of going into the city commuting and faking, like, with your location, like, this guy, this is like a sneaky person, you know? Yeah. Like, capable of great sneakiness. Yeah, it's a major red flag for me. I'm in agreement. And the fact that you already know that he's like a liar, people who just, like, are really

comfortable lying and then you just find out that they're a liar and you stop believing everything that they say. Like, those people are really fucking crazy. And like a year, that's the time to call it. I'm actually in agreement. I hate to press the breakup with your boyfriend button, but like I'm inclined to. You're not engaged.

You're not married. You're not pregnant. Like, get out. And you didn't even give us the usual. Like, he's a PJOM otherwise. Yeah. Right. Break up with your boyfriend.

He's gay. And unemployed. And unemployed. Our third and final, dear toasters. Hey, Swirleys. I'm in a friend group made up of four married couples. We all have kids. Two of the couples have decided to engage in a polyamorous relationship with each

other husband a is dating wife b husband a is dating husband wife a is dating husband b you get it i do not approve of this arrangement but we've a group trip coming up with all four couples and our kids what should we do we've already spent two thousand dollars but i'm afraid if we don't go it'll end the friendship i'm also questioning if i want to continue this friendship long term after the trip and how to handle it if you think i should leave the friendship please give tips on how to phase out i think you're looking at this all wrong like oh wow okay this is so entertaining like how hysterical Like, and, you know, you go on a trip, you want there to be some drama. Could there be anything more interesting than this?

Like, and you like these people, you don't want to stop being friends with them. Like, you don't have to. Get all the tea. It's also kind of how the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives began. And it's very possible that this becomes a huge drama. They get a reality show. Everyone gets famous. And then you're like the moron who backed out before things got exciting.

So if you want to be famous, I would stick around. But it's like if you like them and you have fun with them and they don't do this stuff like in front of kids. It's just like during the adult time, like, how it's. interesting I would grab a bat of popcorn and sit down and watch it all play the next morning who was with who like oh my gosh entertainment yeah we can't tell you whether or not to end the friendship like if this is really something you're not comfortable with like sure end it she said she doesn't want like she said she doesn't want to not go on the trip because that might end the friendship she doesn't want to end the friendship she's worried about this trip

but like I'm sorry I want to watch things play out on this trip maybe you're worried about what might happen. If you might have an upside down pineapple in your shopping cart soon. Correct. And the next thing you know, you're on like a swingers cruise. Yeah. Oh, I guess if you're worried that like it could be a slippery slope for you, like I would understand just being like, I want it. Of course, boundary. For me. But otherwise, like this sounds like your own personal soap opera. Like I'm obsessed. The crazy thing is like I didn't know things like this like actually happened. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's stuff you like hear about for movies or books but like no one's actually doing that yeah no but just like how many toasters out there

are swingers or our friends with swingers or are finding themselves in this predicament and the upside down pineapple i feel like it was like a subliminal secret message but now like everybody knows about it like you would be ashamed to put it upside down pineapple because then your secrets out yeah maybe they've moved on to something different we don't know 1,000% if we go to like reddit.com slash swingers you can find out what like the new upside down pineapple is yeah I don't like a cartilage piercing or something, you know. No, or like, you know, two cantalopes on different sides of the cart. Two cantaloupes by your breasts.

You know, like, or a watermelon underneath the cart. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I know too much. Something that's in like every grocery store, like a box of writs crackers. No, but I feel like it has, it produces better. It has fruit, yeah. Like an eggplant.

an eggplant sticking out of the bottom of your thing. I think a watermelon on the I'm giving them great ideas. I am like too nervous to ever swing. Like if I walked into my local grocery store the kosher grocer with an upside down

pineapple and nobody like took a bite I would be crushed like me and Ben like we walk around we're looking our best we get all dressed up to go to the grocery store okay? We flip our pineapple and no one gives us the time of day

like seriously I'm devastated. No, but also, like, say you do it and you flip your pineapple and some, there's outreach. What does the outreach look like? Like, does someone come up to you? Do they give you a phone number? Do they follow you to your car? So the new thing, well, we don't, we live in the city, so like no one's like being followed to their cars. The new thing where you can like tap someone's phone in the chair's contact.

The pineapple thing is a very suburban thing. A thousand percent. Because in the city, like, oh, you want to swing? Just like go down the street. It's so true. Like, just open your front door. I would love to know, like, if there's anyone in my life who swings. Like, I'm sure that there is.

People just, like, do that. Whatever goes on in people's, like, private lives, like, pop off. Yeah. Yeah. It's very interesting. Anyways, I think this is so exciting for you. Fun, for the whole family. Enjoy.

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