The Toast - Slay The Dragon, Save The Princess: Wednesday, April 30th, 2025

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

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It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day. Hey, Bruno, how you doing? Bruno is doing good, the brutalist. Bruno has just really been showing up to work,

putting in the effort. Ever since he saw Rodeo was getting top billing, he said, don't forget, I am the number one guy in this group. Don't forget, I was there everything once first. What'd you say? Yeah, no, I fucked that up. What'd you say?

It's a TikTok. I was his everything first. Once first, I understand. I was once his every, like, what does a TikTok sound? I was his everything once first. First was? I was once, and don't you forget, I was, whatever, it's from a movie.

I think it's Julia Roberts, classic. Classic, well, Bruno is my everything once first, and I'm so excited that he's here to celebrate hump day and to celebrate the mama merch drop day, as I am Bruno's mama, and we are so excited because our mama collection and our toasty bed bed collection dropped. It's already sold out, but it is available for pre-order at

shoptosamurch.com. The mamas came through strong this morning. And the thing is mamas are capable because we didn't have the usual issue where everybody heads to shopchanel.com, you know? That happens a lot when we do merch launches, people see and they're like, immediate thought is to go to like, Hermes.com or shopchanel.com. And it's so confusing because our website's actually shoptoastmerch.com. And I know how confusing that can be.

But moms are built tough, they're different. So we didn't have that issue. Right, they've been through a lot. Like, we didn't have that issue this morning, which was actually really nice. Yeah, they're able to keep like simple facts to keep their facts straight, you know, cause they've got juggling a lot at once.

Yeah, like, you know, how many ounces, how many diapers, lots of baths, like shoptosworth.com. It kind of just rolls off the tongue. Yeah, so shout out to the mamas. Hope everyone gets what they want and you can pre-order. And you know what I want?

Jordan. Yes. I know what I want? Jordan. Yes. I get what I want. And this winter break, I want Jordan. I would literally only have Megan Fox on the podcast just to make her do that. Like I think she would be some people's dream guest. That's why she wouldn't come on.

She's not the elk of that. No, she wants to talk about like, you know, whatever it is that she's doing. I wanna talk about Holiday in the Sun. I get what I want. And this is what I rank, I want Jordan. It's funny how we don't think of Megan Fox as a child actress, even though,

confessions of a teenage drama queen, Holiday in the Sun, she was probably 16. A teen actress. Yeah, but I don't even think of her like that. I just think of her as a famous woman. Yeah, but not child, because she of her like that. I just think of her as like a famous woman. Yeah, but not child. Cause like she definitely came to us in her teens. She was an, oh, she still is,

but a very talented young woman. Yeah, she is very talented. Because she was such a bitch in both movies. Like she was really typecast as like the bully. She never played like a nerd. And I couldn't help but wonder like, was she like that in real life or she just that good of an actress?

Well, I think she can't be put in a box if you were to ask her. You don't ask her. I don't think that she would answer that question. I don't think she would like it. Well, that's why she's not coming out of like any of our questions. You you will love it. You you will hate it. Literally. So funny. I was like sweeping yesterday.

I've been like sweeping really crazy and people are like, oh, she's nesting. No. When you take the nest and throw it out the window. Like, no, nesting like implies that you used to not be this way. Like I've always been this way. No, but if you're in like turbo sweeper mode,

that is the nesting. I guess I'm only in turbo sweeper mode because I have a deadline, right? Like once the baby comes, like I'm not gonna be able to be sweeping all the time. So I gotta get all my sweeping done for the next couple of months. It's the elk of nesting.

It's your version of nesting, I do think. It's my version of nesting, but people are like, how sweet, she's nesting. You should see me like seriously throwing everything away. I did my kitchen yesterday, which I've already done actually. This is the second round. Your second class. like sweep nesting. When I first found out I was pregnant,

I was like, Ben, let's sweep the kitchen. And we did, and now it's like back to normal. So I made like a little, I actually made it really nice. Like you guys, I should like really start one of those like organizational pages. Like I really could do it. You should. I made different cabinets for like different people.

Like Ben has a cabinet. Like Ben has a cabinet. Romeo now has a cabinet. Rodeo. He has half a cabinet. Like he has a lot of things. What does he need? Well, first of all, you know, he's a brand ambassador, Romeo.

He's kind of the face of a brand called Wagwell, which is like a pet wellness company. And so he has a lot of his supplements from them. He's his father's son. His treats. He is like a businessman. So he needed like a specific, but he doesn't get a whole cabinet.

He is a dog. So he needed like a specific, but he doesn't get a whole cabinet. He is a dog. So he got half a cabinet and then my dry goods got the other half. I feel weird about like keeping dog things with human things, but like in New York City, you just can't be so particular. I understand. And he was really like loving.

He said, mom, this is nice. And I forget, I buy so many nice things for him. And then because- Is it a cabinet that's like Romeo height so he could go and get his what he wants? It's on the floor. And then I got him like a pardigy wicker basket to put all of his, you know, his allergy season

to his allergy and itch supplements. You know, it requires a lot. I'm sorry, he's been taking his echinacea. He's been taking, Romeo's an extremely well dog, you know? I don't know what, like whatever the opposite is. Like that's what Theo was. Like we seriously, like we were just like, he wants food, here you go. No, Romeo has a regiment, he has a cabinet now.

Ben has a cabinet, and I'm working on clearing out one whole cabinet, so by the time I, God willing, God willing, God willing, get back from the hospital, I have an empty cabinet in the kitchen for the baby. Now, it's a cabinet that I need to empty full of Ben's crap. We have a meat grinder.

That's cool. We have never once ground our own meat. Does it attach to your KitchenAid? It does, but it's huge. That's cool. Okay, so, but like I feel as though we're past the cool. I don't know. I've got my eye on that.

I think instead of throwing it away, you should make him grind some meat. I've also got my eye on his Ninja Creamy. It's gotta go. It's huge. We don't make our own ice cream. And I'm sorry. I think it's time for Goodwill, somebody,

another family to start making their own ice cream. Yeah, I don't have one of those. We did it once and it was so fun. Yeah. I do feel like you're not a real influencer until you have a Ninja Creamy. Agreed, and I'm okay with that, because I'm a podcaster.

Romeo's gonna use his Ninja Creamy and his Wagwell vitamins, and he's gonna make a little, that's actually a nice idea for rodeo, maybe for his birthday. A protein smoothie, maybe for his birthday. Oh, his birthday is coming up, what's his birthday?

It's December, we have time. What are you gonna get him? A Ninja Creamy. We already have one. No, I just, I keep waiting for Ben. One of Ben's running jokes about my sweeping. He actually hates that like, he'll need something and it was thrown away six months ago, right?

So I'm trying to be better with that, but like with each day that passes, I've just started like throwing things out. And he doesn't notice. Yeah, just like the meat grinder sounds sad to me because it just like, it just shows someone who's like wanting to eat healthier and like better his life and then you just like take away his tools.

But why do you need meat grinder? Like we have the most amazing kosher grocery that has a pre-packaged- I guess it's not like he's like hunting his own meat, you know? What meat would you need to be ground? Chicken, beef, we can buy it. Right, but like when you grind it, it's fresher,

but I'm sure the ground- The kosher grocery is so fresh. I, but like when you grind it, it's fresher, but I'm sure the- The kosher grocer is so fresh. I'm sure like the chicken breast versus the ground chicken at the kosher grocer is equal freshness. Like if you were hunting and killing your own dinner, and then you get the cut of meat, but you want meatballs,

then you would put it through the grinder. Sure, Luke Combs can have a meat grinder at his house, okay, at his palace. Me in my apartment with my husband who literally has never shot a gun in his life like we don't need it chip and joe grind their own meat sometimes and i feel like if i was in the process of the meat being ground i would not be able to eat it yeah yeah that movie kind of ruined it kingsman golden circle yikes Did Kingsman, Golden Circle, yikes.

The last scene with the meat grinder in the diner. I don't remember. You think you obviously saw it. I have seen it, but obviously it had an impact on you. You, Pedro Pascal in the diner, at the end, in the jungle. Julianne Moore. Put yourself there. None of this sounds familiar. That's the whole movie takes place in this diner.

Remember Elton John? Elton John, yeah. Like what's her name? Poppy? Julie Ann Moore? Pedro Pascal? Maybe I need to say that. Stanley Tucci stunt double?

Yes, Stanley Fucci is the actor's name. His name is Mark. Is it? It's Fannly. It's Fannly. Yeah, they kind of ruin me. So all I have to say, we've been very busy. Yeah.

We've been busy cleaning out. I understand. I love cleaning. This is a bonus of pregnancy. I feel like I talk a lot about the thorns, not about the roses. And one of the roses is like, it's become totally acceptable for me

to be like my sweeper self. And I love, I love just the urge I get to just like throw things out. We both watched the valley last night and did you see the highlight on acupuncture? I did see that highlight of acupuncture. I felt extremely seen. Everyone's doing acupuncture. And I had no idea that Nia and Danny struggled with infertility for a year and a half and that fertility acupuncture got her pregnant. Okay, I have heard fertility acupuncture's really amazing, and I do have a lot of thoughts on the valley,

and I will save them, but I am, I was kind of shook at something I found out on last night's episode. Let me think. What did you find? And maybe it's because- Give me a clue, give me a clue. Maybe it's because I have a lack of context,

but someone I thought I knew turned out to be something entirely different. Janet? No. Oh. Danny. Because he gets drunk and grabs ass? Yeah, like that was-

Claudia, we all, we all, like we watched last- Did you know that? No. Okay, okay, so we'll talk about it in the recap, but that was enormously disappointing, to be honest. No, that was so we'll talk about it in the recap, but like that was enormously disappointing to be honest. No, no, that was like an insane thing to casually say. Like, oh, that Danny. And it wasn't even made a storyline

that that conversation with Jasmine was like a flashback. I think it will become a storyline. I think that's gonna be the thing that Nia gets upset about Janet for bringing up. Cause like Nia acts like, and I think for the most part, like her life is very, you know, idyllic and she likes to keep it that way. And like, you know think for the most part, like her life is very idyllic and she likes to keep it that way. And like, you know, she doesn't want anyone to like know

if there's ever any trouble. Like last season, Danny got drunk at one of the dinners and he was just like being annoying and crazy. And she was- He's a bad drunk. She was, he didn't even do anything wrong. She was literally humiliated. Yikes.

Yeah, so that was crazy. So we'll say that for the Valley recap, but like that was disappointing. No, that was so out of left field. None of us saw that coming. It's not just you. Okay, good. And what else you wanna chitchat about

on this pargy Wednesday morning? It is so gorgeous out in New York City. I can't believe I'm sitting inside. Like it's so pargy. It's sunny. Podcast outside. That's like in school when you would like have class in the park and that was like the best day.

Yes, except like, because we went to school in the city, it like wasn't as much of a thing as it is, I think in other schools. No, you have class outside. Even in college, sometimes you'd have class outside. No, I'm talking about like high school in the city. Oh, like we didn't do it as much. We didn't because like, if you're on like

a high school campus, like, yeah, sure, let's go sit out and buy the tree. But we'd have to like get field trip permission slips. Like it wasn't a thing. That's like kind of a something not enough people talk about kind of a downside of going to school in a major city. Yeah.

No school outside. Well I hope you guys are having class outside today to our, maybe what's after Gen Z? Gen Z. Gen Z? Alpha. Alpha. But like Alpha's like Charlie. Yeah, like babies. Charlie didn't have class outside.

I do think maybe one day this week. Don't you feel like Gen Z's getting a little old? I don't really think much about Gen Z. I think there was a time period where I was like really obsessed with getting them to be like into me and think I'm cool and skinny and pretty. And now like, I don't know if it's the culture has moved on from being obsessed with Gen Z or I just personally have.

It definitely had the Osama of it all like definitely helped. Like not only am I not interested, not only am I not interested in what they think of me, us and our show, like I actually don't want them here unless they're sound of mind individuals. Yeah, I agree. But I just feel like they're getting of mind individuals. Yeah, I agree. But I just feel like they're getting old and irrelevant

just like the rest of us. Yeah, like welcome. Nobody cares about you. We were all, you know, everything once first. Oh yeah, I remember when everybody wanted to get the millennial consumer, the millennial vote. Yeah, we were all special. And how you act at the top is really interesting

because we're gonna see you on the way down, bitch. Yeah, I feel like Gen Z is like with us as like a discarded generation now. And how you act at the top is really interesting because we're gonna see you on the way down, bitch. Like. Yeah, I feel like Gen Z is like with us as like a discarded generation now. Like nobody's targeting to them or they are, but like it's they're moving away from it. Their time has come. And the way they behaved at the top.

That's what I'm saying. It was not a good look. But I do feel like that's the circle of life. I feel like every generation when they're in their prime like that behaves awful. Like millennials, was there a laz look. But I do feel like that's the circle of life. I feel like every generation, when they're in their prime like that, behaves awful like millennials. Was there a lazier, more entitled bunch? No.

I don't identify with those characteristics. No, well, you can't put me in a box. So I'm not talking- You actually can't put me in a generation. I am transgenerational. I'm not talking about me and I'm not talking about you. We're talking about, we're not talking about anybody

who listens to this show either. I am timeless. You're timeless to me. Like in any time, in any generation, like I would be the same person. I'm not affected. Oh, that's interesting. By my peers. That's how I feel about my looks.

Like I am a timeless beauty. Like I think that if you were you to drop me in any century, I could like adapt. I'd wear the clothes I'd fit in and I would be considered like a beautiful woman in any generation. That is how I feel. I agree, but I do think there are some generations for me that I would have been more beautiful in. Of course, no, you would have like been higher up on the list, but you wouldn't be considered, you know, an ugly duckling where there are people now who are like good looking for our time,

but they would have never cut it in the Renaissance. No, but also they very much look from our time. Well, I would say it's a matter of like, have you had work done? Because you wouldn't have packed it pre-plastic surgery. Right, and so I feel comfortable knowing like, yes, I have Botox and things, but I have maintained a face

that could thrive in any millennia. Yeah. That's something I'm really proud of. Yeah, but I think people who have had a lot of work done, they wouldn't be looking like this in the Renaissance. No, no, and if they did, they would have looked- They would have been like old maiden looks. People would point at them and be like, that's an alien.

Like if you showed up with your big ass lips and like a B and be like, that's an alien. Like if you showed up with your big ass lips and like a BBL. Yeah, that's an alien. They would point at you on the reservoir during like the daily walks. I mean, like, who's that? I would love to get a time machine just to send someone with a BBL back in time.

Back to like the Gilded Age. Yeah, well, actually they all look like they had a BBL with those petticoats. Yeah, right, and the corsets. That was the look back then. That was, actually they all look like they had a BBL with those petticoats. Yeah, right. And the corsets. That was the look back then. That was actually the more things change, the more they stay the same. The more they stay the same. So true.

You would have hidden that thing. Well, do you have anything about getting a BBL? No, have you ever seen like the BBL recovery videos where like you sit literally in a colostomy bag that like collects blood? It's probably one of the most severe recoveries. You have to like lay on your stomach for days at a time. You're in this like girdle that has like bags attached to collect like fluids. It's it's absolutely brutal. And I think more often than not, you look like clouds,

like even a really good BBL. It's like, we're not buying it. You have this huge ass, tiny waist and tiny thighs. Like where is gravity in all of this? No, I can't get into the mind of someone that wants a BBL. No, I think a good example of like a BBL that like, like James Charles. No, no, like James Charles, right? This is obviously, there's like a, like, yes.

Okay. It's not confirmed, but like- He hasn't confirmed it, but it's like him. He showed up with a big fat ass. Yeah, like, where did you get this big fat ass? We couldn't help but wonder. And he has a seemingly normal body otherwise. Like there's nothing that would indicate this person

has like big hips and a big ass. He has a very normal waist, very normal thighs, and just like this big ass. And it doesn't make sense. Like we know how bodies work. And so I think that even a really good BBL, and I'm sure he went to the best of the best, I think even a good one looks bad.

What's so funny is he's obviously like not obsessed with it because there are no pictures of him from behind on his Instagram. Well, so there was a period where he had like, obviously just gotten the BBL and was like really into showing it off. And the internet, I don't know if he thought that like people weren't going to notice. Oh, wait, he literally posted on May 7th, a picture of him like in a bikini. And he doesn't turn around, but he said, Drizzy ain't got nothing on this BBL. Right, it was so obvious that he had gotten one that the internet like clowned on him and he leaned in.

Oh, okay. And so I don't even think that one looks good. Yeah. But there are some surgeries like, even like if you don't get a good one, like it's still better, you know? Like I think like fake boobs, like, even I hate my boobs so much,

like even if I got like a bad boob job, like, oh, they're standing up on their own, I'm good. I don't agree entirely with that, but I understand what you're, the point that you're making. Like some, like lips is very sensitive. Like you have to have them done well, or else they look very bad. That's how I feel.

I think a BBL, even the best BBL looks bad. A bad boob job, like, all right, whatever. Yeah, no, like even the best, like unless there's someone who's had a BBL and we actually don't know because it doesn't look like a BBL. Like- BBLs aren't meant to be like subtle surgeries.

No, no, no. But let me ask, do you, nah, I won't go into evaluating women's bodies. We could do that offline. I mean, I'm open. I'll text you, let me know if it's a fair question. Are you asking me like, if I think this person had a BBL? Yeah, or some version of it.

And okay, Larsa, she totally had a BBL. Yeah, okay. Are you crazy? And like hers is not like in my opinion, like a super well done one. I texted you a name. Oh, no, I don't think, let me actually look up a picture. You don't think there's a something?

You don't think there's, it might just be fat injections. Yeah, some people do that too. I think that's like a subtle way. I think that's how people start out. No, she hasn't. Okay. Yeah, that's just, I don't know that for a fact, but. I just feel like it's not the original ass.

Maybe not. Yeah, the fat injections. A fat injection, yeah. I just don't want fat injected anywhere. Like seriously, take it away, boys. What's the opposite of injection? Dejection? Like that.

Like, I need fat. I was getting liposuction. Dejected from my face, not injected. That's why I can't relate. Make something bigger? No thanks. Seriously, I guess lips. I guess, I wouldn't make them smaller. Right, right, right. But everything else't make them smaller.

Right, right. But everything else, make it smaller. Yeah, my philosophy on plastic surgery for my body personally is to make everything smaller. Tits, ass, face, boobs, belly, ears, neck, like everything. Yeah, but that's my philosophy. Yeah, I agree. Well, I'm ready to dive in if you are.

I have some harsh words for the for the desperate housewives reboot that everyone's talking about. So also say Claudia's not getting a BBL anytime soon. Not today. But if she does, you'll know. We'll be sitting on our BBL pillows. So now, without further ado, it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know. And the fast five stories you need to know are brought to you by Huggies Little Snugglers. So Huggies is the only leading brand with all-around blowout protection for sizes one and two.

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You're welcome. Our first story, little Sydney Sweeneynoosh was spotting getting close to her co-star, Brendan Sklinar. I don't know why he thinks his name is Brendan when it's Brandon. No, it's Brendan Slinar. On the page six they have Brandon.

You might think that because I say it all the time or because that's his name. No, but also cause like something about Slinar lends itself to Brendan. Phonetically, I completely. Cause there's an extra E. Brandon, it's Brandon. Let's go Brandon.

Brandon Slinar. Brandon Slinar Brandon. Brandon Sklanar. Brandon Sklanar. Oh, this changes things. He's just a Brandon. He's not a Brandon. He's such a Brandon. Yeah. I don't know, I just have to like

change my whole outlook on life. Let's go Brandon. Brendan. It's because of the Sklanar. Yeah, no, like if visually or oratorially and phonetically, Sklennar has the same exact vibe as Brendan. No, it's true. If it was, it would be Brandon Sklennar.

Exactly, no, I'll try to call him Brandon Sklennar, but absolutely no promises. That sounds like saying two different words in two different languages. Languages, yeah. Brandon Sklinar and Sydney Sweeney were spotted together at Stagecoach, getting close, yes, but also it's a tight crowd,

so everyone's close, so we're not gonna say that they were canoodling, but they were next to each other at Stagecoach. Actually, the video I saw, he was like directly behind her, which I thought was even more intimate than like being next to someone at a concert. Do you know what I mean? I know, but like, I feel like it's not fair to-

Assume. Assume just because crowds are crowded. Crowds are crowded, these two are obviously friends, they're working on a project together, maybe they just like happened to get along or both like really love country music, sure, sure. Yeah, so it's like, let's take a day off, go see a country concert, but I'm sorry,

like she's 27, he's 34, she's beautiful, he's handsome, she's single, we think, even though she was just spotted with the restaurateur a couple days ago, and the dog, I hope they're not doing dog. Did you see the picture of her, like holding up her ring finger? No. She's single.

She's single, but she was with Jonathan Devino the other day. Maybe they have like a life to separate. I think they're having the dog issue. Well. And someone commented yesterday, a lot of people are like weighing in and they said that they did the like co-parenting

with the dog and it was a mess. But Judge Judy says that you should never get a dog in a relationship, it has to clearly be someone's. So even if we're in a relationship and we're getting a dog, like we have to know whose it is. Yeah, but that's like really tough to like breach the conversation. Like we're in a loving relationship, I'm getting a dog.

Like I don't trust you, I don't trust that this relationship is going full term, but I'd like a dog. Yeah, but I do feel like whenever a couple is getting a dog, there I'd like a dog. Like seriously, how do you? I do feel like whenever a couple is getting a dog, there is someone who is pushing for it more. Who wants it, yes. Sometimes it's like a true, genuine, like we're making a family,

like people who act like they're having a kid. But then sometimes, yeah, it's like one of the people in the relationship wants a dog and they're like foisting it on the other person. It's situational. I trust Judge Judy implicitly. I thought that was a good policy because this is a mess. The more I thought about it,

like the more my brain is jumbled. I don't know what the right thing is. It's an impossible situation. It is, it is. So obviously Sydney Sweeney has found herself in a situation like that and she's still tethered to Jonathan DeVino vis-a-vis the dog and she wants to be with

Brendan Sklinar at St. George. They might co-own a house too. Like they were getting married. So like, and they were together for quite some time. So I don't think it's so crazy that they saw each other. I don't think it's them getting back together. Like by any means, especially like once you go splinar. You can't go to DeVino.

Sounds like a injury attorney at like- Splinar and DeVino. Splinar and DeVino. And Powell. Right. I love this coupling if that's what it is. They also like, there was a TikTok, so they also like spent the weekend together.

They like were on this party bus. Like I don't want to jump to conclusions that I don't want to get excited because I have loved Bret and Slidar like long before all these other bitches did. Like I actually discovered him a thousand percent. And everyone's now watching like the first season of 1923, but like I watched it like a million years ago

for some reason. And I saw something in him. You watched it in 1923. Literally, I saw something in him that nobody else did. He was just like some random guy, but to me he wasn't. Like to me he was so much more than that. And I, yeah, right. He was my everything once first.

And I, like, I feel very close and attached to him. And now he's getting like super famous. Like he did the movie with Megan Fahey and Sydney Sweeney. And of course- Let him go. Like lively. And so everybody thinks that they know Brendan Slunar. They don't know him the way that I know.

Granted, I did just learn his name, but I feel attached to him. And I actually really approve of this. And this is what I've wanted for Sydney Sweeney, right? This is what her career has been missing as like this bombshell who popped on the scene, everybody loves her, she's in a million movies. She's been missing that relationship

to sort of go along and have your star rise. So I think this is fabulous. Yeah, even though I think she raises his star more. Yes, but he's not a nobody and he's really up and coming. He's not a nobody, like it's really a sweet, cute relationship, but I also think think they're filming the movie together, they went to skate shows. I imagine these are the early days of what could be

and they're still figuring it out too. So the added pressure doesn't help. But I'm sure they're having fun and I don't feel sorry for them and the pressure. No, they're gonna be completely fine. I also really like to see so many celebs, almost equal amounts now, making news, doing things at Stagecoach versus Coachella.

It used to be first week of Coachella, everyone was there, paparazzi, la la la. And then second week, nobody went, and then nobody cared about Stagecoach. But now, I saw a million videos, I saw Mila and Ashton at Stagecoach, I saw so many celebrities. All of a sudden, they were in my country.

Right, that's what I was saying, the Lana Del Rey effect. Where are they when country is just getting shat on the rest of the year? They're nowhere. But also, I don't think it has a lot to do with country. I think country's definitely more up and coming, but that's what we were saying on Monday

with our Stagecoach recap. It's the Lana Del Rey effect. A lot of them went for Lana. Interesting, but okay, you just go for Lana and then you leave? Or you're going for Lana. Interesting, but like, okay, you just go for Lana and then you leave? Or like you're going for Lana? Like let's spend the weekend. Yeah, but like how are you gonna spend multiple hours

like listening to a genre that you don't like? Like I couldn't do it. But yes, but if you find it, cause I saw like Mila and Ashton were at the Goo Goo Dolls. So like you can- You can make it like mainstream. Yeah, like general. You can curate your day. You can, like the same way at any festival

you would curate your day. I could, like the same way at any festival you would curate your day. I could not curate my day at a certain festivals. Same, same. I'm also not like a festival goer. I feel like celebrities love festivals. Like I find festivals, like I only literally only have been to Stagecoach and Coachella and I've had amazing times at both of them, but I don't like miss it. I don't like look forward to them. They're like, they're journeys for me, you know? We've been to Govball. Yeah, but like that was it.

That was in our hometown. We went for one concert and left. Like that doesn't count. Yeah. We weren't like there all day, festivaling. I feel like we were. I don't think so. I feel like we were, but that was another time.

It was the eighties. It was the eighties. It was the eighties. It was literally the eighties when we went to Gubbal. Just wanna say, this is not a confirmation of a relationship, but I'm really hoping that it is. Like for everyone. We're on a good, strong path. Yep, just don't, let's not get ahead of ourselves,

let's just let them do their thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Our next story, unfortunately we have to talk about the interview that Meghan Markle did on a podcast. Like I'm sorry, but we do. No, this is exactly the type of Meghan news I wanna talk about because it's decently substantial. And when we've talked about her podcast up until this far,

we have learned nothing about Meghan. Her personal life, her as a mom, her as a wife, her as a friend. And so now she's going on someone else's podcast to promote her own podcast. It's her friend, Jamie, who also is like the first female CEO at L'Oreal. She's the CEO of iCosmetics.

I didn't know any of this before. She has her own podcast and they did a pod swap because she's on Meghan's podcast this week. But her conversation with Meghan on her own podcast is much more interesting because it's more personal. The clips are going so viral of Meghan having various conversations with Jamie Kern Lima on the Jamie Kern Lima show.

JKL. So she's talking about motherhood, she's talking about her marriage, she's talking about her work ethic. She's talking- Her self worth. Her self worth, you know, how she feels now versus how she felt then.

There are so many takeaway headlines from- She cries. The interview. Oh, what did she cry about? She was talking about, I think it was like related to her self-worth and how like that for so many years, like she's just always felt like she had to prove herself.

The prove it. The prove it game. The prove it game. I had so many thoughts on this interview. Like first of all- So like, here's some quotes. Like when she talks about Harry, she talks about Harry, she talks about their marriage

and also like they're not getting divorced. She said like, we'll be married forever. And so everyone who like thought they were getting divorced, like they're not because like, I know, no, run it back. I don't think they're getting divorced. I don't think they can get divorced. You were believing the rumors for a while. No, I like, even if they fucking hate each other,

they're not getting divorced. They can't. They can't. But that's not what she was saying. No, no, no, no, no. She was saying we love each other so much, we'll never even think about it. No, and like she says, like she thinks about the game,

Super Mario and like, what's the end goal? Cringe, when she said this, like this was seriously butt clenching light, cringe, were they? The end goal of the game, what happens? Like the, you slay the dragon and you save the princess. And like that's literally what H did for her. H, yeah. The thing is-

Did you see that tweet that's like, Megan explains why she calls him H and he calls her M and someone was like- And I imagine it has something to do with his name being Harry and her name being Megan. I think so. My takeaway, I had so many like big thoughts from this. And big feelings.

The big feelings. The thing is, is that this is not new. This actually is, I think, who Megan is, right? You think so? Yes, because I have a distinct memory and I remember when it happened, like people for a while ate up everything she said. And I remember being like a hater in the corner being like, that's really cringe.

Remember when she said like her and Harry don't watch TV and like their nighttime routine is doing a little duolingo before bed, learning a new language. And people were like, oh, thank you. And I just remember being like, are you fucking serious? Like get a TV. You live in America. Like, and so she has been like this always. Now people just hate her and they like taking clips and they're like clouting on her. I just want to say she's nothing if not consistent. This is how she has always been.

And now people like being, having their eyes open to being like, who talks like this? Some of us have been having those thoughts for a while. I just want to say. Now, nothing she said was like harmful or bad. She's just really, really cringy. And I don't know if she sees herself. Like it lacked a little, like a self-awareness.

Yeah. And it does make you question like, is she really like this all the time? And I agree. She's been like this in public since you've known her. In public for sure. How can someone be like this at all times? And like get things done.

You know, and she's busy. She's like a business owner, podcast mother. She told us about like how busy she is. And she listed a lot of tasks that she does like for various businesses and she's busy. She's busy. I also had a lot of thoughts on the host. Like I found her annoying.

And the host is just enamored with her. Yeah. And she just couldn't believe the opportunity. That's a good podcast to go on. She was just like, yeah. Like every time Megan talked. But they're like best friends. I was getting the vibe that they're best friends. I was getting the vibe too,

but I feel like Megan wants everyone. She's like bringing into her orbit on the show, on the podcast, I think she wants us to think it's her close personal friend. But I got the vibe that they are best friends. Cause she's like, remember when I told you this? Remember when this happened? Remember that?

So when Mindy Kaling went on, I was like, oh, they're friends. And then Mindy Kaling went on The View and was talking. And it was just giving a sense of distance. She was so excited to be on it and honored to be, and she loves Meghan, and they've seen each other a couple of times, but they're not chit chatting.

Yeah, also something about the Mindy Kaling episode that happened in the episode that kind of bugged me then and bugs me every day now when I make a peanut butter sandwich. When they talk about making lunches or whatever, and Mindy's like, no, I do it. I use organic peanut butter. She's like, all that oil, what do you do with it?

And Megan kind of just like brushed by the comment. Like, no, she really spoke to a truth. Like all that oil on the top of organic peanut butter. You don't have it with Skippy. You're supposed to mix it. You're supposed to mix it. But like, I didn't know why Megan didn't like respond to that. I really wish she had like spoken about it more.

So that's what's bothering you? It's like a real issue. Every day, the oil on the top. Well, that's Mindy being like so relatable. So relatable. I've seen, it more. So that's what's bothering you? It's like a real issue. Every day, the oil on the top. Well, that's Mindy being like so relatable. So relatable. I've seen, I think I saw something where someone was like, if you store it upside down, then the oil will go to the other top

and then you flip it over. So I'm trying that. I decided to try that. I saw a device. It's like a wire. It's like a coil almost, and you put it in the peanut butter, and you just sort of churn it,

and it mixes the whole thing together. I'll send it to you. So yeah, I'm turning my peanut butter. You know what I should do? I should put it in that butter churn where Olivia got me. Yes, you should. Because I'm not making my own butter. No.

But I just thought that was so real. I'll send you a link to the thing I saw. Like Mindy Kaling was really trying to enter the crunchy convo, and it's such a real thing that she said. She was brutally rebuffed. It's true. So the thing is with Meghan at this point, she's not winning anyone new over, right?

There are people who just love her and there are people who recently like have decided that they fucking hate her. And I almost, I don't know. I don't know what the, if I'm trying to like, I don't know. I don't know what the, if I'm trying to like give her advice, like I don't know how to advise her because when she opens her mouth, she's like seriously indefensibly insufferable.

Yeah, I would say like make yourself more scarce. But that's what- It's like, it's her turn now. It's her turn. Yeah, that's what she's been doing for the last six years. That's what I've been thinking. I was actually thinking about that last night. And that was another thought I had when I saw this podcast ever. I'm like, man the last six years. That's what I've been thinking. I was actually thinking about that last night. And that was another thought I had

when I saw this podcast ever. I'm like, man, she's everywhere. Like the jam, the show, the podcast, now this. And I'm like, where the fuck is her annoying ass, ugly husband? And it's like, well, he was up our asses for two whole years with his three books. So it's like they take turns being like public,

like taking public spankings just to pay their bills. Yeah, but I just feel like there's a lot of talking happening. People aren't like- All talk, no action. Yeah, people aren't loving like what they're saying. Everything's being dissected. And some things justifiably and some things not,

but like I feel like- Yeah, people are being harsh, but she is not making it easy. But I've seen some criticisms that I genuinely don't agree with. And then I see some like I feel like- People are being harsh, but she is not making it easy. But I've seen some criticisms that I genuinely don't agree with. And then I see some that I'm like, yeah, that's spot on. And I just feel like they need to find a way to make money

where they don't have to talk so much. Yeah, but so much of what's interesting about them is their personal lives. Harry specifically, it's the drama with his family. We got the story, it's not interesting. But Jackie, they don't have other things, that's what I'm saying. Their point of interest.

She's jammed. Like you can sell jam without talking. Not enough to pay and live in Montecito. And the flower sprinkles. Correct. Thank you. You made my point even further. And shortbread.

They have to rely on their personal lives for content, whether it's a documentary, a book, a TV show. It's getting a little old, and they're not like deeply interesting or funny on camera. Maybe they are in their personal lives, but it's not translating, and it's a real issue for them because they're running out of places to do it. Well, I'm ready for her to go back to acting.

1,000%. Someone else's lines. She's a really good actress. She's very beautiful. She is an excellent actress. I discovered that on suits. Like she was really, and I don't think she's like her character.

Like I think it was a role. Like she really had to act differently. I do think going back to acting is a great call. There's a new suits. I think that will be next. Like I think she'll finish out this cycle of work. Then Harry will do something. Harry taps in.

Harry taps in. I think he'll sink the ship even lower. And then I do think that she will act again. I would love that. As she should. But then also then you have to remember, and I guess we could have this issue with anyone, any actor or actress who's doing like a lot of self-

Promotion. Promotion, just talking about themselves, like they could be acting. They are an actor. Well, great, act. Mm-hmm. So yeah, that was a fun journey. And shout out to the Jamie Kern-Lima show.

J.K.O. It was a big get. Big get. Our next story, a little TV news. Desperate Housewives off shoot show with Stereo Lane is in the works at Onyx from Kerry Washington and Natalie Chiaudez. I feel that this isn't so misleading

because when I heard it, I was like, okay, they've said that all the women are down and Eva Longoria has always said like, it's, we'll do it. You have to get Mark Cherry to agree to do it. And now I saw this headline, I'm like, oh, so I guess Mark Cherry is on board. Maybe they're gonna, and not one single person or production company or whatever

from the original show is involved. So how, I don't know if this is like off brand, Desperate Housewives, I don't know how. Yeah, I think it's a reboot by another name. They know that that word is like, nobody's going for that at the moment. So it's sort of like a spin-off re-imagining and now it's called Wisteria Lane

and it's the same concept. I think it's better though. I was just like looking, someone sent me something but I already knew this. Like Marsha Cross's personal brand has- It's destructive. Completely ruined the legacy of Desperate Housewives. I was like, the way, someone sent me one of her tweets,

like, she's like Mahmoud Khalil, the way she tweets. She's like a radical, crazy person, I completely agree. And even beyond Marcia Cross's craziness, I don't want a Desperate Housewives, and I'm the biggest fan of the show, I just watched it again for the fifth time in my life, I watched it live, Desperate Housewives. And I'm the biggest fan of the show. I just watched it again for like the fifth time in my life. I watched it live. It is a show that raised me.

It is perfect. It needs to not be touched. Let sleeping dogs lie. The reboot is not gonna be good, even if everyone was involved. Stop it. I actually think that if all the Whitman came back and Mark Cherry, this is a show that actually could be

like continue on because they're still housewives. They're older, but it's not like they were in high school and now they're like with kids, like they were 40 and now they're 60. Like there's- Narratively, the show can go on, except if you watch like towards the end, like it wasn't good anymore.

All the women did move off the lane. Yes, they could move back for sure. Like not a big deal, but like it ran its course and it was good. And like, why can't it just be good? I'm just saying of all like the reboots to bring back like an original cast and do it again, like this narratively would work.

Yes, yes. Unfortunately. Because you can always just live on a street. I'm not interested in Marsha Cross being in it. And I'm also not interested in watching it without Brie. So unfortunately. I also don't know if Felicity Huffman is like doing active roles.

I think she's like over that life. And of course the Terry Hatcher drama, it's a mess. It's not happening. No, the only one who's like clean and good to go is Eva Longoria and she gets asked about it all the time and she's like, yeah, sure, I'll do it. And she's like the wealthiest woman in the world now. She's married to an actual billionaire.

Why would she work that hard? At the end of the show, Vanessa Williams was a housewife, Renee Perry. She was like the last two, three seasons. She was an excellent addition. And I would love to have her back. I would consider her, she's not one of the OG four, but if they brought it back, she should be there.

Agreed. So then this new version is gonna be like all new wives. And I think it's possible that it could be good, but it has to be written by Mark Cherry. You need like an- It's not. But like you need an insanely good writer. That's what made Desperate Housewives so amazing.

And they don't have that. And they're not willing to do that. It was a perfect show. Yes, Mark Cherry, all the writers, like it was the best of the best, but it was also just, sometimes you hit it, right? And it's a perfect casting, perfect everything. It's not gonna happen.

And I'm so over this reboot. Stop desecrating the legacy of great shows. Yeah. Also, Kerry Washington's involved on the production side. Unclear if she would be in the show. I do think that if she were in the show, that wouldn't be good. I don't, I'm not familiar so much with her production work. You know, I think she does a little like she similar to like how Reese Witherspoon does it on like the biggest and

best scale and a lot of actresses have their own production companies and like hire. I don't know a lot of Kerry Washington's behind the scenes work. Let's look Kerry Washington productions. I feel no Little Fires Everywhere was definitely Hello Sunshine. That was Hello Sunshine, but maybe it was in collaboration and that show was really bad. Yes, it was. So that's like a demerit for all the people involved.

Okay. But Kerry Washington does come from like a very, very prestigious, successful, long running ABC show, just like Desperate Housewives. Scandal. She obviously wasn't like a right. She was just the actress. It was Shonda. Shonda Land production. But there is like the ABC overlap. I don't know. I just I'm not interested.

So she has a production company called Simpson Street Productions. And it's like they have an overall deal with ABC. Got it. So now I'm on their website and I'm not really seeing the productions. Anything familiar? I'm not seeing productions. Let me click their Instagram.

No, it says they have like a season, but I think we'll get there, okay. I just want to say, like, I'm not gonna watch this. I'm not gonna support, like, I love the show, and even like decent reboots, whatever you wanna call them, they never, they never do what they need to do. At this point, I'm no longer even gonna be like

happy for a second when I see the headline and then realize that it's bad. Like, anytime I see the word reboot or I see my favorite show and the news, like, I'm gonna be sad. I completely agree. Let sleeping dogs lie. Leave with Stereo Lane alone.

So Simpson Street has a new movie called Shadow Force only in theaters May 9th with Kerry Washington. Okay, I haven't heard of it. Street you grew up on, season four starts tomorrow. Okay. Shadow Force again. So it's probably like a new venture for her. Yeah, but yeah, yeah.

So this would be big. Yeah, unfortunately it's gonna be like, as the, I feel I am the chairman of the Desperate Housewives fan club and we are extremely like protective of the brand and I'm saying no. Same with Clueless, but like narratively, Clueless doesn't make sense to bring back. They were in high school.

Right, it was about high school. It's about the moment in time that age that you are, leave it. Yeah. So, and they just like, honestly, they don't have the talent in Hollywood to do great things anymore. It's so true, it was a moment in time.

Especially writing wise. Writing wise. Are you ready for our next story? Katy Perry is speaking out about being beaten and bruised and battered and bruised by the internet. So she took to social media to write a comment that she's felt battered and bruised, but has kept looking to the light. So if you're worried about Katy Perry,

she is speaking out about all of the hate that she is receiving and Katy is doing okay, mostly. She seems like a very healed and therapy person that, I mean, nobody can really withstand like such global mockery, but she seems to be taking it as well as one could based on this one comment. She responded to the online hate and the lengthy comment

under a post from her fan page, Katie Perry Brazil. She said, I'm so grateful for you guys. We're in this beautiful and wild journey together. I can continue to remain true to myself, heart open and honest, especially because of our bond. I love you guys and have grown up together with you and I'm so excited to see you all over the world this year. Please know I am okay.

I have done a lot of work around knowing who I am, what is real and what is important to me. She referenced some advice her therapist gave her saying, no one can make you believe something about yourself that you don't already believe about yourself. Which I actually thought is like pretty profound. It's pretty true. Like if someone says something mean about you,

like it only really hurts. If it's true. When it like rings true or it touches on something you're insecure about, but someone says something like so out of the field, it's like objection, relevance. She said, when the online world tries to make me a human pinata,

I take it with grace and send them love because I know so many people are hurting in so many ways and the internet is very much so a dumping ground for unhinged and unhealed. So it seems like, you know, she's doing these shows, by the way, there are people there. Like she has a lot of fans. So the fact that she's choosing to just lean into that,

I think is a very healthy mindset and just like, this is not for the internet, it's for the kitty cats, it's for our universe. I don't know how one deals with this, but she seems to be doing well. She does. I actually was feeling like maybe she didn't even know what everyone was saying about her because she's like-

Protected from that? Protected, and she's also like older. She doesn't need to like be in the comments all the time. It's not like she's an influencer. So I could imagine a world where like she doesn't even know that this is happening outside of like, you know, in terms of comments and stuff. So it makes me sad to know that like,

she understands that she's the pinata of society right now, but that she seems like strong enough. And also like, she is a little like delusional and nutty. And I think it takes that type of person to go through something like this. 100%, like a healthy dose of delusion is really in a situation like this, medical medicinal.

It's, yeah, it really is. So- Cause it provides a layer of protection. Yeah, I agree. And I think she's like happy and fulfilled in her personal life. Like you really can't bring her down. She also has like so much money more than like most

of these online people will ever have in their entire lifetimes. She does have a very fulfilled personal life. And that helps. Like that man, Orlando Bloom loves her. Like she has a beautiful happy family. Yeah, she has more than most. Yeah, I'm sure she focuses on that.

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Our fifth and final story. Did you watch, watch what happens live last night? Oh, I didn't. Who was on? Brittany and Luke, random. Luke from summer house? Luke, Kristen's husband. Oh, well, I like that I thought of somebody who hasn't been on Bravo in three years before I thought of Luke, Kristen's husband. Oh, well, I like that I thought of somebody

who hasn't been on Bravo in three years before I thought of Luke, Kristin's husband. Who was on Bravo, but honestly, someone must have canceled because it was a very strange to have him because he didn't like, he's just Luke. He is what you thought he would be. He gave like no T, he was asked shady questions and he was like, I didn't know that was happening.

I think that Brittany also like could have and should have deserved a one-on-one. Yeah, so maybe it was also good that they had someone there who wasn't talking that much because Brittany had a lot to share with us. Is this about the Stassi thing? No, this is about Jax and her relish. She was asked about Stassi.

She was. Being like, now that you're not with Jax anymore and he was obviously the problem, have you and Stassi reconciled? And I thought for sure the answer was gonna be yes. No, the person asked, has Stassi reached out since you've gotten divorced? And she was like, no, she hasn't reached out,

but I see her around and it's always good. And it's always love and hugs and that's fine. And she also said like, what we know, like obviously it's all about like the wedding, like them not going to Bo and Stacey's wedding. There's so much more that people don't realize and a lot of it has to do with Jax. So I am holding out hope,

I would love these two to be like really good friends. Yeah. I mean, it wouldn't do anything for me at this point. They're not on the same show. So it's not like I'm like- No, just like vibes. Yeah. Yeah. But it seems like they're like totally

Fine. Fine, which is good. Cause like Ocean's birthday party, like you don't want people fighting at Ocean's birthday party. Correct. But she was shading Jack's sex skills. I'm watching what happens live. Did you see this? No, yikes. So she was asked a's sex skills on March 20th, I haven't slide, did you see this?

No, yikes. So she was asked a lot of questions about Jack. She was asked about his recovery and she said like, she kind of cast a little doubt on it. Like she was like, he's still Jack's. Like I hope he continues. She's so entitled to that. Like if that's, I'm sure she would be the first person

to be like, he is changed. This is the man I've been waiting for. You know what I mean? Like if he was, but she was like, he still has his Jack's personality, I hope he like continues on the path, but like it's still not great. And like she's not getting back together with him ever.

So I wonder why she hasn't filed. That's a separate question. But she was asked to rate his sex skills by the shady dress. There was a new- A new game in town? A new prop, Kristin Doty last week gave the green dress- The green.

To Andy and then they put it on a mannequin and they called it Shady Revenge Dress. And so she was asking shady questions. And it was asked to rate Jax's bed skills. And so she said, there were times when he was about a seven or an eight, but you know, most of the time he was a two or a three. No stamina, no nothing.

Well, this is a person who we've now realized is an addict and when you have all these different substances coursing through your veins, honestly, usually affects your ability to hold an erection and such. Yeah, but he's also a sex addict. Oh yeah. Yeah, and I don't like a sex addict. Oh yeah. Yeah, and I don't think sex addicts are like

particularly good at sex. They're here for a good time, not a long time. Yeah, that's true. I love this. Like I know she has been holding back like so much for so many years and she still maintains like a level of respect because it is Cruz's dad. No, I actually don't think that she maintains that.

But she doesn't, she doesn't feel this like enormous responsibility to protect him is Cruz's dad. But she's- No, I actually don't think that she maintains that. But she doesn't feel this like enormous responsibility to protect him as Cruz's dad, which I actually like cause I find that annoying when people do it. Yeah, it's more entertaining. And also I think she feels a bigger responsibility to do an amazing job at her job, to make more money to provide for her son than she feels to protect Jax.

And I actually think that that's like a compromise that's like really fair because they're not like any couple that just went on reality TV and like, you wanna protect the father of your child. Like it's Jax, like this is his livelihood. It's your livelihood and playing coy about it will affect their bottom line. And it's all already out there.

So I actually think that that's like fair for them. It's in her best interest too, because it helps ultimately provide for her family. And like she has sole custody of Cruz, like she is the breadwinner, she is taking care of them. She, I don't know if she's in the house, but she is like, has to pay for two houses at this point. Like we're making money, I'll say what needs to be said.

I feel like everybody moved on far too quickly from the fact that she had to move out of the house with Cruz. It is seriously diabolical. And she still pays for her half of the house. That's so crazy. Insane. Yeah.

So let's get into the Valley recap and I'll share if there was anything else from Watch What Happens Live that she shared. Janet's bidet party. I just fucking hate Jesse. Like, I hate him so much. Even though it sounds like he has like legit reason to believe that Michelle was unfaithful to him

during their marriage, like I literally don't give a fuck. Like I don't. I think he's evil. I hate him. When he got caught for saying that thing in the group chat, which I need to talk about the loser ass group chat in a second.

And his thing was like, it's a joke. Like, oh my God, you're such a fucking loser, bro. Like I literally hate you. Like I hate everything about you. Being like we were trying to see who the mole was. The mole, nobody fucking cares about you. Like I hate. And I'm not even like such a ride or die for Michelle.

I just, you can't help but feel so bad for her. He is a psychological terrorist. Yeah, he really is. But like you said last week, she really falls into every trap that he sets. Like she's so not moved on from him or in a place where she could just be like, oh, that's stupid that he said that.

Like, I'm gonna go be happy with my partner. Who's so cute. He is so cute. And I also, I think there's a chance that she didn't cheat on Jesse. I think they like, they probably maybe fell in love while Michelle was still married to Jesse,

but didn't enter a relationship until after she separated from him. And like, yeah, she likes his honey. And she said that they would like go on walks on Runyon Canyon. Yeah, she wanted to look cute for him. But I think it's possible that she didn't cheat on him with-

Physically, but emotionally maybe. Emotionally maybe. And- Like I literally don't care. Yeah, emotionally maybe. And- Like I literally don't care. I don't fucking care. The reason why I struggle with the two of them is because I don't know them. I can't even imagine how they were ever married.

It would be like if Jackson and Brittany came on a reality show right now. After. And I would say, who the fuck are, how did they ever even get together? What even happened between them? The idea that like Michelle left Jesse is so not what you would expect from the two of them

Cuz like he's the break like so what was going on in their marriage that like and she seems kind of like shy and meek a little bit that like she Left him and then she also said that like he wasn't like giving her hugs and kisses or like any sort of love like so I it's hard for me I am on her side because from what I see now like he just makes her life Impossible and he doesn't even wanna be with her. So just let her go. He's like a real evil person.

But I just wish I knew them a little bit better to really understand like the issues between them because I feel like I have no context. And I'm sorry, Kristin Doty is so wrong for like her team, Jessie. She's gotta stop with that shit. She's always wrong. Like, I'm sorry, girl, that is not the vibe.

And when then Michelle kind of lost it and she's running around the party being like, let's think of that. No, like that's your response to. Right, to this heinous accusation. It's so lame, it's so childish. And like, you know what? Even though yes, we know production's paying for the house,

but it is being positioned on the show as like Jessie's trip, Jessie's house, Jessie's rental, like you can't kick him out. Like it was just a bad call. Like it was very losery. And then it was like very high school. And when Jasmine was like, I'm not voting for you. And she just like immediately broke down.

Like she's just so fragile. Like it's hard to root for someone like that. Who's like crying. And she's like, no, I'm gonna kick him out of the house. And she gets like happy and strong. And then she doesn't get the votes that she needs. And she's crying again.

She cries. Be stronger than that. Or don't engage. That's the easiest thing you could do. Don't engage. You don't even have to be strong. You could just fake it, act like you don't care, and then go home and cry. Cry when you get home.

Yeah. Now, I was excited because we were getting more of my two favorites, which is Danny and Michelle. Danny and Nia? Yeah. And then I wish we didn't get it because I learned something that I didn't like, which is that he doesn't have a drinking problem, but he's like a very bad drunk.

He doesn't drink a lot. And when he does, it's like Armageddon. And he was very inappropriate with two women. Like, oh, that I have to grapple with this now. Like, are you fucking kidding me? I was so upset. Why would someone like that ever drink? On TV.

Period. He didn't even do it on TV, the grab ass. Right, but like with his TV people. Jason said that was the worst thing he's ever, he always does stupid shit when he's drunk. That was the worst thing he's ever done though. Can we talk about Jason? Thank you for bringing it up.

First of all, him having an Android, like, Janet, like stopping him in the doorway, being like, you're a good man for doing that, dropping jocks. Like I actually couldn't, like I wanted to die. No, it's so crazy that this man Jason is on a reality show. TMJ, this man Jason. In any other world, like he'd just be his lawyer self with his Android going out his business,

but like we're watching this person on TV and like he's not a TV star. He's so deeply uninteresting, yeah. And when people say Jason, I'm like, wait, wait, wait. Who's Jason? Who's Jason? Who's Jason? I literally forget. I'm like, no, that's Jesse, Danny.

I'm like, who the fuck is Jason? Mr. Janet. Mr. Janet. He was just like. He just is, but he's actually, if we don't get like normal boring people like him on TV for a reason, but it does sort of help like give like a normal boring perspective.

And just like, you then can see like relative to a normal boring person, like how crazy these people are. Like how do Jax and Jason know each other? Get along. How do they know each other? And along. How do they know each other? And this group chat that they say is like 30 people, but like they want it to be super private and there's a mole in there,

like who do these people think that they are? No, and Brittany said on Watch What Happens Live, like every wife and girlfriend has a password to their husband's phone. Scrolls through it. They all know about this chat and they all read it. It is not like under lock and key. There's no mole, It's open. Right.

There's no mole. It's just like common sense. No, and I'm sure like things about Jack started getting leaking because maybe before that there was like nothing like newsworthy happening. No, like Jack's is a leak worthy person. Like people are going to like send in things about him to like Bravo accounts or whatever like Jesse.

Nobody cares. Yeah. Like you and your mole. Yeah, but like is Danny stupid or wants to like get the show on the rolling? So that was the weird kind of incongruous part because it existed in the group chat, not on the show. And Danny brought it on the show and told Luke and was like mad that he told Brittany. But like you told Luke and now it's out there.

Doesn't matter what Luke does with it. It's on the show now. But you felt Luke would not say anything. And then what? At the reunion, we'd all was like mad that he told Brittany, but like you told Luke and now it's out there. It doesn't matter what Luke does with it. It's on the show now. But you felt Luke would not say anything and then what at the reunion, we'd all be like, hey, remember that time you said that? So again, I asked like stupid or wanted to get the show rolling.

That's what I mean. It was like a bad episode for Danny. Like I'm casting doubts on his P-jomness. I know I do think he's a P-jom, but he does make mistakes. I'm really worried that he's not. I'm really worried. Like, but I don't know. I'm really worried that he's not. I'm really worried. But I don't know.

I think that he will, but I wonder why Nia, I know that she doesn't control him, but she does. I wonder why she lets him drink. Yeah, he has to stop. He has to stop. That's just such an easy fix. You're bad drunk, you make bad decisions, don't drink. Bad, bad, bad.

Yeah, and it's not like he drinks a lot. They were saying nice stuff about him. Yeah. But, and it's not like he drinks a lot. Like they were saying nice stuff about him. Yeah. But. It doesn't seem like he has a problem. Some people just don't mix well with alcohol. One time is too much. Get daddy a drink.

Oh, stop. It's actually funny. Also, Zach. Benji. Benji wasn't in this episode, Zach. Benji. Benji wasn't in this episode, thankfully. I missed him. But like him showing up to get ready for the party and like not going.

The most loser, not invited even. It's not like he keeps turning it down. Like, what are you doing there? I really like, I don't. And can you explain to me why Kristin feels she's owed an apology from Janet? For the podcast thing? I guess so, yeah.

And what she said on the podcast was that, referencing these people being like Kristin and Zach didn't care if my pregnancy went full term. Which I guess Kristin did not say, Zach did. But she sat by him as he said that. And she's like guilty by association. Like Brittany has at least condemned him for it. Yeah.

Nobody's holding Brittany accountable for what Zach said, even though they're best friends. Right, right. But no, she was like sitting there and she didn't like speak out against it. So let that into feel like she didn't care either. Okay. Which then like Kristin feels like is a big thing to say about her.

But so I actually think that they can clear things up. And when Zach was like, this is the saddest, it's like, well, why would Janet invite Kristen and forgive Kristen and not me? She didn't say that shit that you did. But that's just like a sad spot to be in. Like two people are fighting, one person's getting forgiveness and you're not.

And it's so much more than like being invited to the event. It's like grasping onto relevance in the show. Of course. And so it's like, you're not invited and you're already kind of like hanging on by a thread with your Benji storyline. And now like, and things are getting thrown through a loop even more.

Yeah. And like last year he wasn't invited on the baby moon and he cried. Oh. He cried, Claudia. At least this year he didn't cry when he wasn't invited to Dave and Busters. Dave and he cried. He cried Claudia, at least this year he didn't cry when he wasn't invited to Dave and Busters. Dave and Busters. It was like a good time.

It did look like a good time. Janet is funny, like with, I really didn't like understand her obsession with Dave and Busters. Like I didn't realize how real it was for her, but it's very real. I understood it cause I also happened to absolutely love Dave and Busters. And you love games.

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