The Toast - Sleeping Our Way To The Top: Tuesday, February 28th, 2023

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

Shawn Mendes and Sabrina Carpenter step out together amid dating rumors (Page Six) (24:48) Keke Palmer gives birth, welcomes first baby with boyfriend Darius Jackson (Page Six) (33:40) Chris Rock will finally hit back at Will Smith's Oscar slap in first ever live-streamed Netflix stand up (Daily Mail) (36:18) Hilary Duff Explains Why She 'Didn't Want to Be Lizzie McGuire Anymore' After Breakout Show Ended (PEOPLE) (48:34) Tom Brady 'is trying to launch a career as a COMIC' (Daily Mail) (54:34) Summer House Recap (58:22) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  Merch The Toast Patreon Girl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Tuesday! And speaking of girls that I'll always choose, it's Jax. Hi. I didn't know where you were going with that. I'm trying to change it up. Keep it fresh, you know? I didn't know how you could be speaking of me when speaking of Tuesday. Because I always choose you. That's so beautiful, Turdy. Thank you for that.

You're welcome. How's so beautiful, Turdy. Thank you for that. You're welcome. How's Turdy doing? Such a good question. Such a good question. I'm doing good. It's fucking snowing slash raining. That's exciting. So I'm wearing me snow boots.

Turdy, it's a chilly day. I actually had chilly last night. Actually, something kind of crazy happened to me. What? So I heated up some leftover chili. It was in this Tupperware. I put the Tupperware in the microwave like I've done millions of times. I go like wash my face.

I get the Tupperware back. I'm eating in bed. And I get in bed and I put the Tupperware on my lap. And then my lap like feels really hot. So I'm like, oh, man, that's weird. I must have like heated it really hard. Literally the entire bottom of the Tupperware had melted the chili was all over my lap I guess like I I left in the microwave for too long or just that Tupperware was on its last leg like maybe

it was new it was new maybe it's the brand Ziploc that's a brand you could trust I don't know can you I don't know if you're supposed to heat Tupperware now knowing what we know about plastics I just one thing about me is I will never remember what can and can't go in the microwave yeah but like what I've learned recently is that like plastic shouldn't get really hot because it could like get into your stuff so So well, I definitely ate some plastic. Transfer to a bowl. Oh, so much work. Might as well just order in, you know? Yeah, but not when you have chili on a chili day.

I know it was actually really nice. Ben is away for work. And the night before he left, he like made a pot of chili and left it in the fridge for me. So I've had chili two nights in a row. That's a good husband. Yeah, but then I had to throw it out last night, whole thing because there was plastic in it that's your fault yeah you know I'm not blaming Ben I want to but I won't but you really can't like he literally went away for work so he left you a fridge full of chili he's like a homemaker no it was so thoughtful

we like we had chili the night before he left and was like, so it wasn't like he just made it for me, like meal prep. But I like to think there was some thought there, you know? Even though knowing Ben, there was no thought there. He just wanted chili and happened to be leaving the next day. When you say it the way that you said it, he's leaving town. He made a chili the night before and left it for me in the fridge. Like husband of the year. No, I'm romanticizing my life.

And when you add on top of that, he's leaving town, a snowstorm is coming. So he made a chili the night before and left it for me in the fridge. It's a Hallmark movie in the making. Turdy is living in the notebook. I'm living in the notebook, 100%. Yeah, no, it didn't really go down like

that but let's pretend we can dream and we can give Ben a little credit today it's so important to romanticize your life we're actually giving Ben a lot of credit today I know because the good guys are in the press oh well also did you watch the episode yet? No, I've seen bits and pieces. And then I was going through stories this morning. And organically, I clicked a titillating headline about Hilary Duff. Yeah, so yesterday, the episode with Hilary Duff aired on The Good Guys. They recorded it like a week or two ago. I watched the whole thing.

I was entranced. I have so many thoughts on Hilary Duff. And I feel like up until this point, my one interaction with Hilary Duff was my famous story in Atlantis when like I was being a freak following her around the casino and she was like, get away from me. But my God, she is so normal. And I guess I didn't really, I've never sat down and thought like about Hilary Duff's career at a glance, but she's really been at this for so long like Lizzie McGuire another Cinderella story Cadet Kelly Cadet Kelly like she has so many different eras and she's still now How I Met Your Father like at the top of her game and just to hear her be so normal was so and she said like I know that like I'm very normal and I

know that people actually still like me which I'm really grateful for and she was like I feel like so much of who I am and like I credit it just to my family like I grew up in a really normal house and even when I started making a lot of money as a kid and like literally paying the family bills like I never got special treatment like I did my chores like everyone else like it was it didn't tip the balance of the house and I still like really grew up a normal kid um and of course she like had some demons that she spoke about, but I also really respected how like, you know, her and Josh are close. So they were like talking

and they would maybe get to a subject that she wasn't comfortable with. And she was so mature about just like setting a personal boundary. She was like, it came up that she was divorced and Josh was like, what was that like? Like to go through like a divorce very publicly. And she was like, you know,

I'm really not going to get into that, but like it was hard. She was just like really healthy. Like she just seemed just seemed so I don't normal's not even the right word because she was like above normal she seemed like mentally healthy enlightened yeah it was really an amazing interview it was also really funny you know Josh and Ben are so funny and I think like Hillary was like what is going on and of course they ended up talking about food like the whole time of course um but Hillary's a foodie that's really cool it's nice to know that it's possible to be a child star to be in the industry to be so successful and to come out the other side like you know in a very

normal way positive yeah she's definitely a rarity yeah that's cool yeah it was a really good interview so if you like Hillary now you liked her then like I think you'll learn a lot and Ben also asked like a question like I know what I would ask if I sat down with Hillary Duff but Ben was like asking like different questions and I was so glad he did because I totally forgot her about her music career and he was like your music career was like so and for Ben to know it like it really was so big he was like coming clean is my favorite song and he was like so, and for Ben to know it, like it really was so big. He was like, Coming Clean is my favorite song. And he was like, would you do that again? And she was like, I love music and I loved that time. But I think she found like going on tour and performing like to be really isolating and really lonely. And she got married and had a kid right after that. Like

it was like a response to this like difficult time for her. But I was so glad he asked that. But I also, like Ben would never know to ask this, but I really wanted him to ask her if she still makes residuals from Laguna Beach. Just the theme song? The theme song. Cause it's like now the show got bought by Netflix. Like it's like having this resurgence.

I've seen everyone watching it and like it's reaching a younger demo. How does it work when your song is the theme song to a show like that? I feel like it would be a one-time payment sort of thing you think kind of like per season not you know you're not like a cast member who gets residuals when it gets picked up that's what I would think but I know nothing me neither so I was I was really impressed by like Ben's pop culture knowledge because he's

not when well compared to us like that's my level. It was such a good interview. And now they're uploading their episodes in full video on YouTube, on Josh Peck's YouTube channel. So I watched it. I was, it was so enjoyable. Well, we're going to talk about the episode in the Fast High Stories because they're making news.

The good guys are making news. They're news makers. I'm so proud of them. A little more credit to ben because we still have pink lemonade yes on spritzsociety.com slash tsc everyone's talking about pink lemonade let me tell you how impressed i was with like the skinny confidential community yesterday like they bought the shit out of this like they are die hard and i feel like whatever lauren like kind of gives her stamp of approval on because she's very wellness focused she doesn't put crap in her body

unlike me uh she does give a rip and I don't give a rip like she doesn't put crap in her body you do but you guys can both agree on Spritz Society then diagram then Diagram Society is in the middle because it's tasty enough for you and it's healthy enough for Lauren it's's tasty as fuck. 6.5% ABV. Spritzsociety.com slash TSC. It's pink lemonade. You can get two four packs. It's some good shit. And it's limited edition. So it's not gonna be around forever.

Oh yeah. It's not like, it's kind of just like a distant cousin that's visiting the rest of the family, but it's not like joining the family and moving in. No, it's like, it's giving eugeny. It's giving like foreign exchange student here for a semester did you ever um like have a foreign exchange student in your grade or anything

I feel like I can't think of one but I feel like that was something that happened sometimes but I can't think of them so I'm gonna have to say no I had one in the eighth grade he came for a year from Israel and he was really cute and like I definitely had a crush on him and I literally remember this so vividly in the eighth grade we were in lab and he literally sent me a note I guess he like heard I had a crush on him and he like sent me a note that was like flirty and it was so gross like it was just like it gave the ick immediately I don't think I ever spoke to him again you know who would never do that Maverick Maverick yeah I agree and to go from Maverick in the seventh to this gross exchange no but he was he was not gross he was really handsome and like everyone really liked him but I don't know like he said this like flirty thing and he like

looked over and like gave me a weird look I was like I never want to see this person again no now you need to explain how is it gross like I don't remember how it sent you a flirty note and turdy goes running scared. I don't remember why it was icky, but I literally, I think that was the first time I ever got the ick. Like maybe that's why I, I think that's why I remember it.

Cause it was like either something he wrote or like the way he passed it or the way he looked, but I was just like, ick, goodbye. But I feel like, I don't think I ever spoke to him again. When you have a crush, objectively, so many things that they do in their day-to-day life, because they're like, you know, a 13-year-old boy, are icky, but you just see everything as like so sick that they're doing. Yeah, no, that's so true. That's also just like the lens of being young. So maybe you were just not that into him.

But it wasn't meant to be me in the foreign exchange shooting. It wasn't. No, because like you're not good at long distance. No, no. How would you have kept that up? I don't know. Maybe I'd be living in Israel right now. I would have made Ali off.

You and all your typos over WhatsApp. Never. No. And I do not fuck with WhatsApp. I find it so to be so fucking annoying. And for some reason, my group chat with my friends from high school is on WhatsApp. I find it so to be so fucking annoying. And for some reason, my group chat with my friends from high school is on WhatsApp. I don't know why.

I think maybe at one point, like not everyone had an iPhone. Like we've had the chat for like 10 years. So I don't know why the fuck it is WhatsApp, but like we've just stayed there. I literally never answer it and I never check it. It's so fucking annoying. I don't even have WhatsApp.

But it was popping off yesterday because everyone was listening to Ben on Skinny Confidential. Oh. And my friends like really like podcasts, but they obviously don't even have WhatsApp. But it was popping off yesterday because everyone was listening to Ben on Skinny Confidential. Oh. And my friends like really like podcasts, but they obviously don't know like to the extent freaky level that we know everything about everyone. And they were like, wait, the Bostics own Dear Media? I'm like, yes.

Yeah. That's a lot to process. If you don't know, but you know Dear Media and you know the Bostics. Yeah. And you know Spritz and now Lauren and you know Skinny Confidential. It's a lot. Yeah, no. So the chat was popping off yesterday.

So I spent a lot of time on WhatsApp yesterday, much to my sugar in. Speaking of your friends, I was wondering what's going on with your book club and if you've read Midnight Library yet. Okay, so we like dropped the ball in picking a new book. But I did just start reading the Midnight Library. Okay.

I made it 13%. Spo alert she just died yeah and now I realize I'm just gonna like go back and have to like live her life 1500 different ways you know because she's reading the book and I just like I just couldn't bring myself to keep reading I I got to 13% like a month ago. When I left your house, I read it on the way home. And I never picked it up again. Oh, wow. But I plan to finish it, even though people have told me like I won't like it and it's really repetitive. But yesterday I did crack open my Kindle to read Lucy Score's sequel to Things We Never

Got Over, Things in Which We Hide from the Light. Things in Which We Hide from the Light that we can only see in the dark when it is no longer light in which we're hiding. And it's cute it's not um it's not even close to as good as things we never got over and to be honest I was like disappointed when I found out who the romantic interest was going to be like it wasn't a new girl it was a girl from the previous book and I like didn't even like remember her um but it's good it's cute like honestly okay I feel like this is going to be a relatable statement like not to you but to people who like to read spicy books I started the book at like her um but it's good it's cute like honestly okay I feel like this is gonna be a relatable statement

like not to you but to people who like to read spicy books I started the book at like 8 30 and by 11 30 like they hadn't fucked yet and I'm like bitch it's my motherfucking bedtime like and there was a couple scenes I'm like oh he asked her to spend the night because he was feeling sad like okay this is it I'll go to bed right after this nope next day uh they're at this dinner party things are getting hot and heavy he corners her nope I went to bed I was my sleep takes priority but it's like bitch just fuck already yeah that's that's it's really annoying like build it up like you know for sure and by the way I'm only 30% and I would say most romance books do not let the people start fucking until 50% and then 50 to 75 it's fucking fucking fucking fucking yeah because like 75% some drama happens where they can't see one another by 100% they get back

together yeah yeah yeah oh there's always the low that's yeah that's always corny it's like you know that it's coming like something bad someone needs to shake that up I like what's like she's been keeping him or her have been keeping a secret the whole time and at 75 they're guilty the whole time 75 they find out what the secret is and then the other person's mad for like a week i like a book like it doesn't happen often where like the bad thing that you're expecting happens at like 40 then they work through it and they're back together by like 60 70 and then there's like a larger thing that they have to get through together yeah yeah to 100 it needs to be shaken up shake up chicago for sure yeah

you've gotta shake it up sometimes um but speaking of books we recorded the redheads last night I heard it was I heard the redhead community is not ready for this episode that's what I heard this episode it was so long it's gonna stay pretty long I'll just cut out you know anything I can but we didn't wind up having like the same conversation over and over again um there was so much to talk about like it's really philosophical like we get into just like obviously the meaning of life because that's very uh congruent with the message of the book religion COVID like just all the different ways that this book could be analogous to real life it was really crazy so I'm really excited for everyone to listen to it it drops on Thursday and this I think is one of

our most buzzy books ever I've never gotten so many questions to my email about the book and so I think it's gonna be a really great episode that you guys are gonna enjoy so Thursday it's never too late to become a redhead and if you're not a redhead start with this book because it cap five by five percent you're in the book oh that's nice it brings you right in that's nice I like that yeah so I've definitely I was talking to Lauren Elizabeth yesterday about how like I've been in such a reading low like I feel repelled by my kindle like I took my kindle with me to Vegas I had two six-hour flights and then touch it once like I felt like allergic to it but yesterday I finally sat back down and I think reading this Lucy score book will then get me back in and I'll go back to the midnight library I'm also in the middle of Mindy Kaling's um

memoir which is not good which is crazy because I fucking love her and what I love most about her is her writing it's not even so much like her acting or her producing it's really her writing um it just feels very uh like I'm writing a book because I just have nothing to say but I yeah at the end of the rainbow yeah so it's definitely something I want to keep on my kindle for like you know if I finish a book and I'm on a plane and I don't have service okay I can read this memoir I'm not going to finish it right now like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna choose it on Tuesday you know I also was not feeling my kindle it took me three weeks to read the last book I think maybe more actually the last book I was reading the marriage portrait

which I hated but then I had to pick it back up to read for the redheads and that's why I'm so grateful to this redheads book because it sucked me right back in and now I'm like what are we reading next probably city of girls but because I wasn't reading I've been watching like I've been caught up on tv like an episode a night. So last night I didn't read. I watched Summer House. Happy to chat about it, though. I don't feel as strongly as I did the last two weeks. So I watched it this morning because I know that you watched it.

So we'll do a little TV recap. I've also been not watching a lot of TV, but I have been like, you know, investing time into this Murdoch Murdoch. Right. If you want to recap it, I have to take my headphones off because I will be watching it. Okay. Well, it's not like a spoiler because it's happening right now. It's literally a spoiler for me because I don't know anything.

Anything. Okay. Take your headphones off. I have like three thoughts I want to share. Bye-bye. Okay. So I watched your documentary and I've been like keeping up with the trial. Obviously, that freak did it. But to be completely honest,

to be completely honest, uh, my initial thought when watching the documentary, and I know this is like, I know, I mean, when watching the trial and I know this is like not what it's about, but like,

my God, Alec Murdoch and his son Buster are two of the ugliest fucking people I've ever seen in my life. Like inside and outside the fact that like their whole family has been like murdering people in this small town for many years, especially like so much, so many, so many things about the documentary that aren't even being spoken about are making me so sad. Like obviously right now he's on trial for the murder of his wife and his son, but like Mallory Beach, devastating. Stephen Smith,

devastating. The housekeeper, not them literally like making money, like planning to kill this woman so that they can get $4 million from insurance there's so many parts of this documentary and this whole story that are so layered but I cannot get past the way people pronounce his name okay it's Alex A-L-E-X everyone's calling him Alec which is just incorrect because there's an x but also because they're southern they're calling him like Alec and he's like I felt so confused during the documentary because I'm like who the fuck are they talking about um I did feel very conflicted when it came to Paul. Like I couldn't tell if he was like really evil or not. Like what he, what he did the night of Mallory's thing was so horrible and so unforgivable. But like when you learn the background, he was like from this

really fucked up family. And it seemed like maybe he was the only one with a conscience. And he drank so much to deal with that. like knowing that his family up until this point they killed Gloria they killed uh Stephen Smith like I don't know I feel conflicted about Paul because I'm so angry when I was watching the Mallory Beach thing like the way the family covered it up and his brother towed the boat even though it was a crime scene and nobody cared from the Murdoch family if Mallory was alive. Like to me, Mallory was such a tragedy and it was Paul's fault. So that was like an interesting balance to work through. But I don't really feel like Alec, what I've been like seeing from the trial, I don't really feel like he's going to get convicted because at this point,

like the most damning evidence is the Snapchat video. What's so crazy is all the Snapchats in the documentary. There were so many Snapchats. I watched a Netflix documentary, by the way, not the Hulu one. So they have this video, even though Paul said he was visiting his parents the hour before he came home and found his wife and son murdered. They have this video of him clearly at the property by the kennels, like exactly where they were found.

So while that's really damning, it's not concrete proof. by the kennels, like exactly where they were found. So while that's really damning, it's not concrete proof. And he admitted to lying, saying he was not visiting his parents. He just like lied and then decided to run with it. I don't know why. So while that also all makes him look really, really guilty, there's no like DNA. And honestly, like as an outsider, we're all like, oh my God, he's obviously guilty. But when you get on the jury, I feel like they play with your emotions. Like I could see some of these jury members like not like buying I could see a lot of them buying what he's selling because he's getting on the stand and he's crying crying crying um but what's so crazy and I read this in the Daily Mail yesterday I just feel like the type

of family that they were where it's like they had law enforcement in their pockets and they ran this town I feel like that shit only happens in movies. Like I didn't think that was actually a thing. But with this family, it was. They really did own law enforcement, the courts, so much so that the courtroom that they're currently being tried in had a portrait of Alec Murdaugh's grandfather who started this whole thing, had a portrait of him. It had to be taken down for obvious reasons, but that's how deep this goes. And I just didn't think shit like

that really existed. Like I really thought that was stuff that only happened in like books and movies. So that was interesting. I also found a lot of the dynamics in the documentary about the different kids, you know, like Miley and Morgan and Anthony, Mallory's girlfriend and Connor, the one who they tried to frame. I found those dynamics to be really interesting. So I don't know what's going to happen. I don't think it's very clear whether he's like going to be convicted or not. I obviously think he did that shit. And my God, this was just like my first thought when I watched a documentary, when I was seeing Buster and Alec, I'm like, this is the big swindling, you know, high rolling. These people look like fucking clowns. Like that was my first thought. All right, Jax, I'm like this is the big swindling you know high rolling these people look like

fucking clowns like that was my first thought all right Jax I'm done look alive I'm done put your headphones back on she's coming being slow take longer hello you hear me now turdy okay so I gave my recap once you watch a doc I'd love to get your thoughts. Of course. I just got to carve out some time. And we'll do a summer house recap at the end. I did watch as well. Great. Okay, good. If that's all.

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DS01 daily symbiotic. That's seed, S-E-E-D dot com slash toast and use code toast, T-O-A-S-T. Thank you, Turdy. Two great sponsors today. Love them them both you love to see it our first story some romance news that we have to dissect down to the studs sean mendez and sabrina carpenter step out together amid dating rumors sean mendez was spotted out and about with Sabrina Carpenter on Saturday amid rumors that they had been seeing each other romantically.

The couple looked smitten as they embraced the cooler weather in LA while out running errands together. Shawn donned a pair of blue corduroy pants and a white t-shirt and a shirling line jacket for the outing while Sabrina kept things casual in an oversized black sweatsuit and sneakers.

Yeah, I will say like I'm obsessed, but her outfit like does make me feel like this is not a romantic thing because it would have to be early and you only start dressing like the way she's dressing when you're 10 years married. Like that's literally the only thing

that's making me like, it's a perfect couple. Agreed. You know what? I have the opposite opinion. Her outfit is the only thing making me think that maybe this is real and not just PR because if it was PR obviously they knew that the paparazzi were going I feel like every relationship that Shawn Mendes is in except eventually I did believe him and Camila were

real because they were together for 20 years um every relationship that he's in especially when he's like spotted and in this stage like it's always pr with sean mendez it just always so true and he's such a great pr boyfriend because he's so successful and he's so cute and handsome and like okay i'll go out to lunch with sean mendez for a couple more instagram followers why not okay i'll go to the met gala with sean mendez and pretend to be dating that was fucking weird right so and i think sabrina carpenter is definitely in her PR era like I don't think she's above this right now I don't think she's below this right now like she's perfect why not coffee with Shawn Mendes get a couple pics taken get a little buzz oh

worst case scenario we fall in love like I think this is beautiful the publicists they they did amazing here they really did but I agree she knew that they were stepping out just to get photographed I think she would have dressed a little more polished so I think maybe there's a chance it's real I pray I love this I love this for both of them like I think for him I love Sabrina Carpenter I think she's like extremely talented really beautiful I think for him, I love Sabrina Carpenter. I think she's like extremely talented, really beautiful. I think she's got a great personality. Like I think she's a great girl for him. And for her, I love this because up until this point, her romantic narrative has been this dumb fucking teenage love triangle

between Joshua Bassett, Olivia Rodrigo, where she really did not come out on top. Like she got dragged. So the fact that she could end this whole saga dating literally the most eligible man in the world I don't know who I love this more for her or him I really hope that they can find some common ground and stay together for a while and even if this is PR I hope we get more than just this and we get like events you know red carpet I want to see faux looks I want to see Instagram pics like keep

going with it this is so gorgeous and fun and harmless that's why I love a PR relationship it's really harmless agreed and it's only harmless if it's like fraudulent and we got ourselves like so invested but I'm going into this with a shrewd eye because I've been burned before. Yeah, no, but I'm obsessed. And it's like, he kind of has similar vibes to Joshua Bassett, except just like on a bigger level. Not at all. No, Claudia, if aliens came down, they couldn't tell the two apart. No, I think especially like personality wise, I think not at all.

Okay, from my older person's perch, where I don't know their personalities. Wrong. They're both like handsome, brunette, teeny bopping singers. They literally couldn't be more different. I feel like Shawn Mendes is such like an alpha. And I think Joshua Bassett's like a beta. I don't know if Shawn Mendes is an alpha. Joshua Bassett looks like he's in the 10th grade.

Okay, and Shawn Mendes looks like he's a senior. Bassett looks like he's in the 10th grade. Okay. And Shawn Mendes looks like he's a senior, but they go to the same high school. Thank you. And proving my point, the same high school, I take the same classes. So like I said,

my point, Joshua Bassett on a bigger level. No, I don't, I just, I don't agree with the comparison whatsoever. Okay. Agreed to disagree.

Like it's not a total deviation for her okay in terms of like hair color sure and career and like just oh please the career is gonna be more different career interests when she joshua bassett wishes you're really being complimentary wishes but like sean mendez is like know, what he aspires to be. So she just like took, you know, she's in. When you order it online versus when it comes in the mail. Sure, sure, sure. I'm just saying like, what was I saying?

That it's not like a big leap, I think? No, that it's. I don't know what I was saying. Okay. That he's her type. That makes two of us. That he's her type. I don't know what I was saying. Okay. That he's her type. That makes two of us. That he's her type. I don't know what I said like five minutes ago,

but maybe just that he's her type. Like curly-headed singers. Yeah, like. I understand what you're saying, but I think they're so different. Okay. So I'm praying, you know, I will keep these two in my thoughts,

that they stay, if it's PR, that they stay doing this, and if it's real, that they stay if it's PR that they stay doing this and if it's real that they stay doing this either way stay doing this wait this is so random but did you see like over the weekend you definitely didn't see this Sabrina Carpenter like got herself in like a little bit of like drama what's the drama so she did the BBC live lounge you know that thing where like you cover other people's songs yeah or are you seeing your own songs and it's like really stripped down yeah so she has a song I think it's called nonsense

because we want to hate your clothes a pop quiz you know that one no oh it's like gone viral and it's like really big and whenever she performs it live at the very end she there's like a there's a it's not a verse but like she like talk sings at the end of the song your favorite yeah and wherever she goes she changes it because when she's in New York she's like she like talk sings at the end of the song. Your favorite. Yeah. And wherever she goes, she changes it. Because when she's in New York, she's like, I'm in New York. I love New York City. Like whatever. You know what I mean?

Okay. And so for the BBC performance, she's like, I am doing it's a BBC. And then she said like, I'm in America where I'm from. BBC stands for something different. What does it stand for? I think what she meant was Big black cock no yeah I'm like fairly certain and so like the video got taken down like it was deemed inappropriate by BBC oh my god but like I don't think that I never got confirmation that's what she meant but like

what else could it have meant? Okay, I'm on. I just searched BBC Urban Dictionary, obviously for a British broadcasting company. Next, Bitches Be Crazy. Next, Big Black Cock. I believe that's what she was referring to, and that's why it was taken down for it said inappropriate whatever. But I was like, okay, Sabrina Carpenter out here being wild.

I just didn't expect that from a Disney queen. That's so like interesting and do you really think that's what she meant I don't know but now we're all talking about Shawn Mendes like maybe this is like an actual PR thing so because this BBC thing didn't really blow up but I'm a freak who saw it that is hysterical yeah um okay go Sabrina she's really doing, she's being so awesome right now. She's firing on all cylinders. Fashion, music, touring, Instagram pictures. Like, it's just a joy to follow her. I agree.

I really, I really, I'm like in my Sabrina era. I've been in my Sabrina era for, like, seven years. And finally, this is, like, something that I love that's paying off. You know, it usually goes the opposite way for me. Little Mix, Dissolved, shows canceled. Anyone Jackie loves, like ultimately like gets canceled. Stalls. Oh, gets canceled for sure.

Yeah, like either they get canceled, their show gets canceled, their career ends, something. Like just know if you're a celebrity and my sister, Jackie, is a fan of yours, like, your career is going nowhere. It's so true. It's the kiss of death when Jackie O becomes obsessed with you. It's so true. I'm so sorry.

Yeah. Or maybe I'm just, it's not me being, it's not like I'm a curse. It's just like, I like things that have no place in our culture maybe you have bad taste no but I don't think like the culture is filled with good taste I would agree with that we're incongruous that's fair you're loving the congruent incongruous today I told you it's always a word of the week here at the toast and I think being congruent or a word of the week here at the toast and i think being congruent or incongruent is germane to my situation it's a gorgeous word i really i like it no because uh i like it yeah are you ready for our next story some happy news yes k Yes. Kiki Palmer gives birth.

Welcome her first baby, a boy with her boyfriend, Darius Jackson. Kiki Palmer and Darius Jackson's first baby has arrived. The actress gave birth. I wish she named her baby True. Of course, everyone did. But instead, they named him Leotis and Drelton Jackson, lovingly nicknamed Leo. Cute. And she gave birth on Saturday.

I also loved her announcement. Like no muss, no fuss. Mom, baby. We got baby name. We got gender. We got a picture of the baby in the hospital. She didn't, you know, no drama. No, she's not one for drama.

No, I love her. I'm so happy for her. So happy for her. I hope she enjoys this time. You know what time I've been enjoying? Speaking of new mamas Molly Mae I told you you would the way Molly Mae took over my day oh did she what can I say I love Molly Mae except you had a welcome so also just a quick update from yesterday since we were like still kind of learning Molly Mae and Tommy Fury are not married.

So I said that they were married. They have a baby together and they're like in a relationship. They're just not married. And Tommy's boxing career, he went on Love Island as the brother of a very famous boxer. So he's Jordan Rogers. Yeah, right. Exactly.

Except then it would be like if Jordan Rogers then went into football and had a pretty good career. Yeah. So Love Island was like a great career boost for him. And Jordan and Aaron still spoke. Yeah right. Yeah.

That's still so weird. So weird. But that's I'm obsessed. I actually I don't know if I will. I don't know if I have the time. But I'm interested in watching their season of Love Island now. Especially because like Love Island UK is amazing. And I know that if I watched it like I would be obsessed I just like

don't have the bandwidth to become obsessed with something else I know but I have the bandwidth to become obsessed with a couple that I follow on Instagram and then just want to do a deep dive on I know and you could like skip through the other parts oh yeah the other people yeah irrelevance except like apparently her best friend Maura who was the one who filmed the video of Molly in bed like waiting to hear the result of the fight is from Love Island so female friendship that's cute we love love what was the story oh Kiki Palmer I'm so happy for her I feel like she's also so funny and I think she'd have like a really fresh take on motherhood and like I look forward to the content and the interviews because she's just so funny yeah and she's very honest so I feel like she'll be able to relate to a lot of women out there I agree and a lot of women will be able to relate to her yeah are you ready for our next

story Chris Rock will finally hit back at Will Smith's Oscar slap and first ever live stream Netflix stand-up special a week before the Academy Awards after maintaining the silence for nearly a year. So Chris Rock will finally address the slap nearly a year later as he prepares for his upcoming Netflix special. The show, which is titled Chris Rock Selective Outrage, will be the first ever live stream broadcast

by the streaming service when it airs on March 4th at 9.30 p.m time that's exciting that's very cool very cool he will also be joined by Amy Schumer Jerry Seinfeld and Leslie Jones during the performance a source told page six if you are waiting to see Chris on tour address the infamous Will Smith slap situation the comedian is waiting to spill his humorous take on it in his live Netflix special I feel like from like a PR standpoint they're like pushing that he's going to be talking I feel like he's going to talk about it very little honestly like I just think they're yeah I think they're using it as like clickbait but it sounds like it's like a full Netflix

like festival like there's other enormous comedians I don't know I just feel like they're using it as clickbait and it's like not going to be that much no it's his special because it's Chris Rock's selective outrage I think he brings on other people I think it's what he's been touring with for the last year and so he's doing his set which included stuff about the Chris uh the Will Smith slap and that will be in there if you want to hear him talk about it I don't think it's going to be start to finish just like his thoughts on the slap I think there'll be a couple jokes about it and we'll move on because I think that's how most people feel about it and I'm sure Chris in particular he's doing this historic first live Netflix show he's not gonna spend the whole time talking about it yeah I do

like the title me too because selective outrage is real very um I'm I think I want to watch this I'm sure you'll be able to watch it if you can't catch it live right like yeah I'm sure it'll be on Netflix after I wonder I mean it's so cool to do something live but like why do it live right like yeah I'm sure it'll be on Netflix after I wonder I mean it's so cool to do something live but like why do it live when you can you know record it and edit it and make it perfect I think when you're at like the top of your game like Chris Rock like you get the opportunity to like do things for the first time that nobody's done like you want to do it you want to challenge yourself and I'm sure Netflix plays it pays you more yeah this could be a cool trend because now I'm like I want to set my alarm 9 30 March 4th like

I'll be there a live event with no commercials that's cool I like that and it's kind of something that we could all be a part of you know it's been a while since we all watch the same thing at the same time it's been no the Super Bowl the Super Bowl and that and how fun was that turdy oh my god I talked we talked about it for days on end like I miss it take me back. I seriously miss it you saw Kylie Kelsey had her baby like not even close to the date of the Super Bowl. No I didn't even see that. I think it was like two weeks later. So cute. So cute. And this weekend is Travis Kelsey and Kelsey Ballerini on SNL. Another event that we can all come together for. Yes. Country girlies and football fans. It's kind of like us.

Yeah, pretty much. I'm excited for that. I should. OK. Not that I had plans, but I'll keep myself available. I hope Kelsey. Is it a sketch? I hope so, too.

SNL's on too late for me. I'll be watching on Sunday. It's so late. i used to wait up sometimes but no because it's like i don't even i couldn't get to the start time let alone watch it right no no it's like 11 35 cannot come fast enough yeah so i'll catch it on sunday i'm excited and you know when i was on tour i actually remember i was in i don't know where I was but I was in Central Time so I had Saturday more humane I was after my show and I get home at like 10 10 30 and it started I'm like how delightful is this I watch SNL went to bed Central Time is low-key lit yeah so do people in LA get to watch it at 8 30 I don't

know if it's live in LA I know it's live in Central Time I don't know if it's live in Pacific Time that's a weird thing about the west coast it's like the bachelor game of thrones remember that right right it didn't air I'm pretty sure like it doesn't air until the time I feel like they always say like eight seven central time right so they it's live on central and eastern but not on pacific that sucks but I say. There's a lot of things. That really rock. About being on LA time. Like.

Award shows. Like. We go to bed at midnight. Award shows. They're done at eight. Unreal. Unreal. Also.

If you work with a lot of people. In New York. Like. You obviously. You don't have to wake up. At five a.m. But like. At nine.

They're already having lunch. And then by three. Your day 2, 3 it's true but I people who like work serious jobs on the west coast that interface with New York do get up and start their day at 5 a.m. They do you're right. Yeah and they go to sleep at like 7 o'clock. That sucks. It's crazy it's crazy time is so interesting the whole afternoon surfs up man you know surfs up it's just a different lifestyle I wish I could be someone who could wake up early that's why I'll never be a true success no because I can't wake up earlier than I absolutely have to I actually don't agree with that and I don't know if you remember this but I've seen this clip go viral like a thousand times when Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan and they were talking about sleep Joe was like how many hours of sleep do you get and Elon's like seven like you know and Joe's

like oh you don't like wake up at four and like you know do an eight hour regimen before and he's like no like I tried that whole thing like getting less sleep and it's like okay yeah you have more hours in the day but you're functioning moronically like people need sleep and hearing it come from someone who's like the richest most successful I was like okay good because I want to be successful and I feel like I am successful and I try and work as much as I can but like bitch I'm fucking going to sleep and I'm not waking up at five but what time does Elon wake up because like he had seven hours of sleep because he goes to bed at 10 and wakes up at five. No, it wasn't crazy.

Like he set his schedule and it was fucking normal. But then it's like you ever read those articles. Mark Wahlberg gets up at four, doesn't work out, has breakfast, doesn't work out again, showers, prays and then start his day. Yeah, no, I was just listening to Kevin O'Leary talk about his morning. He gets up at five, 445. I'm sorry. Like, but it's not because he's like pushing

himself to just like some people wake up early like I can't relate I seriously some people wake up early but also there is that like toxic hustle culture where it's like you are not achieving your highest level of productivity if you wake up before six after six like bitch I don't fucking believe that no I don't believe that either but But I also, you know, numbers are numbers. If I had more hours in the day, like if I was up. But you might be functioning at a lower level of productivity. I know, but I've also found that no matter how much sleep I get, a gorgeous amount or a little amount. Like it's true.

I'm just a tired bitch. I know. I would love to do like a full sleep study done on myself. Like I feel like I get a lot of sleep. I always feel like crap. I always wake up feeling like I've actually been hit by a truck. I would love,

I don't know if that's like a thing, but like I would love to be studied. You know? They should study you. 100%. You never met a bitch who gets more sleep. Is it too much sleep? I do believe that at one point,

yes, I was getting too much sleep. Like, because really, um, I would try and wake up as late as possible for the toast. So I was getting like 10 hours every night. Beautiful. And,

and now, and I really wasn't feeling good. Now I'm in a place where I wake, I like to wake up now earlier for the toast. I'm not rushed. I take it slow. I can watch summer house before. Like if I didn't get, you know, I could just catch up on stuff.

And now I'm getting about eight and it feels it on. It does feel better. Yeah, I get about eight. My sleep the past few days has been crap. I'm having like a sleep issue. I don't know how to physically sleep without. Fucking up my back the way I sleep, shoulders are at my mouth like I sleep like that's crazy very like my one arm goes under my pillow I sleep on my side one arm's under

my pillow so my shoulders up and the other arm covers my mouth and then I wake up on your back side oh okay okay oh yeah yeah well you know how do I relax my shoulders I literally don't know how but like my where is your head where is your head um on my pillow and my arm is under my pillow okay so I actually experienced something a few years ago that totally changed my sleep because and a lot of people do it basically putting the weight of their head on their arms and shoulders your head weighs like 25 pounds okay and I woke up one morning with such a broken arm for weeks it never went away until I really like I googled it I was like oh my god I do putting that much weight on your arms for eight hours is bad like you really cannot put your head you have to think about the weight of your head it's really bad for you

okay so how do I sleep I don't put your arms down bitch I literally like I try and put my shoulders down and I I literally can't like I live perpetually with my shoulders at my ears like that's that's not good how I am that's how I carry myself a lot of tension and you know what I'm really struggling with a lot of tension I would love love somebody to help me with this and so I don't have to go to the doctor I have the craziest fucking tension in my jaw like I wake up clenched and now it's to the point where throughout the day like right now I'm holding so much tension in my bottom teeth I'm dying to bite down like it's it's literally a 24-7 thing now yeah sometimes when I'm going to sleep I had to unclench my jaw um I forget my teeth were grinding so it was something I and sometimes I'm going to

sleep I like think about my jaw and I just open my mouth and it's like oh my god calm down I know but you get so used to clenching because you don't want to smell your own breath oh that's not why I clench that's why I clench wait how do you smell your own breath like I don't want to be breathing keep that mouth shut you should tape your mouth that's what Lauren Bostic does I've actually been thinking about doing that I don't know I think that would cause more clenching for me. I need to open my mouth and let the spiders in. No, but if you're also an open mouth sleeper, that's why you wake up with like a dry throat

or like a sore throat. I really need to close my mouth. But here's the thing. It's like you close your mouth, you got jaw tension, TMJ. You open your mouth, you got a dry throat. There's no fucking winning anywhere. No, so true.

Everything is problematic. That's bringing me back to my point. you got a dry throat. There's no fucking winning anywhere. No, so true. Everything is problematic. That's bringing me back to my point. I need a sleep study. I need a sleep like diagram to show me healthy ways to sleep where I won't feel like, I was, before I got out of bed yesterday, I was sitting on the edge of my bed. Like, you know how old people like sit on the bed before they get up and then they like get up with every limb?

That was me. And now when I get out of bed, I have to like, I have like creaks. I got creaks, Claude. You're crickety cracking. Crickety cracking. So that's something I've noticed about myself that I'm working on. Okay, good. Are you ready for our next story?

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up in the public eye on her pal Josh Peck and Ben Soffer's Good Guys podcast, quote, for so long people were just like Lizzie, Lizzie, Lizzie, and still now to this day, which it doesn't bother me anymore, but it did for a while, I just desperately needed to be my own person. I think that I thought music was going to be a good way to introduce myself reintroduce myself and it was so she talks about how transitioning into music helps her become more Hillary than Lizzie and now you know she thinks about going back to the music department she definitely wants to do more of that when she has the time she thinks that she will I just don't know right now I barely have enough time to give to my three children I decided to bring into the world yeah and by the way her husband is like a big music producer he's

one of the producers on Pink's new album Matthew Koma she said like I literally have like a genius in my house I thought she's married to Matthew Koma I know I thought the conversation between her and Josh about like being that like nostalgic kind of icon for young kids was really interesting because it's this never-ending balance of wanting to be yourself but also not wanting to appear rude or ungrateful for like the impact you had on people and the opportunity that you were given. But like at one at some point, like you have to put yourself forward. And he's like, I think that's really like something most people who like rise to fame in a like a kid's type of way struggle with because you have your whole life ahead of you and you want to have a career with different roles and opportunities. But if everybody's always thinking of you as this one thing it can be so limiting so you want to

shake it off but then you can appear to be like you know ungrateful and almost like um what's the word I'm looking for with an r resentful yeah so it was a really it was a very good like healthy conversation and like very honest yeah and I feel like like even looking back on it like she did such a good job of transitioning out of Lizzie but I do remember there being a small period and not as big as you know Hannah to Miley which I feel like took many years there was like a small period where she's like I'm not Lizzie and yeah but Hillary stuck really quickly because she had some really great roles she put out really great music and we're like it's the season of Hillary also what she said was interesting was that they only filmed Lizzie McGuire for two years because they filmed it's only two seasons but they did

30 episodes every season and then Disney at their own discretion would release them so for her it was two years of her life but it took much longer to release so she's like I'm being like known for this thing that wasn't even a big part of my life like I did this for two years even though for us it was like five yeah um also what I thought was really interesting is like she considers like the scary part of her career excuse me I have to sneeze no I don't um yeah I do excuse me um before she booked younger to have been like this kind of like questionable she was like I didn't know if I would ever work again like I was like I kind of took a break to have

kids and then like when I was ready to come back it wasn't like it was before and I don't even think of that but I guess yeah like what was she doing before younger I know I do think of that even when we were talking at the top of the show the way that I remember it is like she joined this show younger when we were working at AOL the whole cast like came to do that interview and I remember being like it was kind of weird that Hilary Duff was joining this like random new show like yeah fun fact Hilary Duff is on it I feel like the success of Younger though really propelled her forward if Younger had kind of stalled and like not been as big of a show as it was which it's very possible it was on tv land like no it was not meant to be successful like why the fuck was it on tv it was not meant to be as successful as it was yeah um I think that that

gave her like a whole new renewed career but if I thought about it long enough I like I would have come to the same conclusion that that was really the kind of lull in her career. Now it makes sense. She was having her kids and she came back and I remember feeling like, Oh, Hillary Duff is on this show. Hmm. Yeah.

But it turned out to be such an amazing show and she was so great on it that it's just been like a rocket ship since there. Yeah. Yeah. No, there was, I just, I never really put in perspective how like that was like a huge thing for

her. I thought she was doing them a favor. Yeah. No, it was mutually risky. Yeah. I got to listen to the whole episode because the clips that I've seen are awesome.

She sounds so pretty. Oh my God. You have like, she looks so good. And she just has like such a nice voice to listen to. Yeah. And she like really thought Ben and Josh were like psychotic. Like it was really funny to watch.

She's very mellow. Yeah. They are not. They are not. I don't want to spoil like a million things from the episode, but Josh shared like kind of a crazy fucking fact. I'm listening. Did you know that at one point,

Josh Pecht was invited to the Met Gala and he didn't go? Why was he invited and why didn't he go? He didn't elaborate. He just says like it didn't he go he didn't elaborate he just says like his it's one of the things his wife never lets him live down when was he invited years ago like drake and josh no no no no no like how many years he didn't say and why didn't he go he didn't say either okay now i have to listen even though he didn't say they have to do a follow-up episode like just about that just about Josh and the Met Gala it's not crazy that's crazy because Hillary was saying how she got invited this year to Vanity Fair Oscar party

which is like she's like basically saying she's in this like great season because like look and Josh was like wow I've never gotten invited to. But I did get invited to the Met Gala. Ah. That was really. That was their party's cool. Very cool. Very prestigious. Yeah. Cool pictures.

Totally. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yeah. Because Tom Brady's kind of coming for turdy's throat. For turdy's throat? For turdy's throat. What is he doing now? Tom Brady is trying to launch a career as a comic in a last-ditch effort to win his ex-wife giselle back now i just want to say what's this is coming from the daily mail that

is getting it from radar online but apparently tom brady's inner circle is apparently trying to talk him out of an attempt to launch a career in stand-up comedy to win back his ex-wife giselle i thought he has a new girlfriend why would he want Giselle back I don't know not they're saying that he's trying to get Giselle back he has a deal for ESPN or Fox Sports a deal a 10-year deal that he put on pause for 375 million dollars oh my god that he hasn't like picking up yet he said he wants a break from football okay these are all the rumors that they're saying that he wants a break from football. Okay. These are all the rumors that they're saying. That he wants a break from football in order to win back Giselle. And I guess she'll be attracted to him if he's a comedian instead.

Honestly, if he's good, maybe she'll be attracted to him. But if he's bad, she'll get the ick on another level. Yeah. This seems like inconceivable. So according to Raider Online, the recently retired quarterback wants to try his hand as a comic in a last-ditch attempt to reunite with his supermodel ex. They divorced last October following 13 years of marriage that coincided with his decision to un-retire.

But Tom's people are not encouraging his new path. A source is quoted by Radar Online as saying, Tom was a terrific quarterback, but he needs to toss this idea before it's too late. As a comic, he's strictly a water boy. But that said, there were some compliments for his sense of humor. Apparently, quote, he does a great impression of former teammate Rob Gronkowski and his over-the-top Boston accent is hilarious. Honestly, I don't think one part of this story is true, but let's entertain it for a minute. But it's like, where did this? This is so unbelievable. And I so

inconceivable. Where the fuck did it come from? I don't know. And I'm sure, you know, if Tom Brady wanted to, like he could really probably meet with the best of the best, you know, get a get a lesson in comedy from Jerry Seinfeld, like literally whoever he wanted. But at the best of the best, you know, get a lesson in comedy from Jerry Seinfeld, like literally whoever he wanted. But at the end of the day, and let's just say this is true, like at the end of the day, stand-up comedy is like either something you have

or you don't have. You can get better and you can improve your skills, but if you don't have it, you're never going to have it. And I feel like Tom Brady doesn't have it because he has it when it comes to football. You can't have it all. And I'm sorry, you can't have it you're never gonna have it um and I feel like Tom Brady doesn't have it because he has it when it comes to football you can't have sorry you can't have it all you can't have it all I agree with that I don't know where this is coming from like the fact that it's even here like makes me consider it because like no I know because it's so random of all the things he could

try his hand at I in a million years I would never guess comedy I thought like honestly I could see him honestly trying to be like a pro golfer honestly I could see that yeah or like wanting to host SNL and do stand-up monologue and like that's him trying his hand at stand-up kind of like when Kim like acting she got all the people the fellow comedians to give her some tips and and she gave it a shot what there's no way he's you know going to the comedy cellar open mic night there's just no fucking no oh my god stop I actually would love to see that though imagine he comes out and he's fucking hysterical that no it's impossible that's just like it's impossible you don't get that many cards it's not how the world works it's not how god works no I don't know there are some people who are like just excel.

Multi-talented. Yeah. Hello. Turdy. Turdy. Triple threat. Comedy. Singer.

Dancer. Model. Yeah. I don't know. Anyways, we'll keep an eye out for that one. Yeah. Let's talk about Summer House. You and I both watched the new episode last night. Carl and Lindsay were not in it. And honestly, like it was a little boring. Yeah. Let's talk about Summer House. You and I both watched the new episode last night.

Carl and Lindsay were not in it. And honestly, like it was a little boring. Yep. It was because they're the whole show. They're the whole show. I will say I did see Danielle's side a little bit more. However, I also watched her on Watch What Happens Live. And so her and Lindsay are no longer friends, which is so crazy. So crazy. It made made me really sad even though up until you know last week I didn't care about their friendship but they she spoke about Lindsay with respect so nothing really crazy happened I felt but it just made me sad like I want their friendship back Danielle was such a good friend to her I know I'm dying to know what happens I do believe it happens on camera so yeah and it happens this summer because based on I watched the first uh watch what happens live up until the

first commercial break which I actually really enjoyed I thought Gabby was so great I liked her so much more and watch what happens live than I like her on the show like even when she was talking about horoscopes when she talks about them on the show I'm like I roll I don't care but she was being like really funny about them in watch what happens live and the fact that she knew like all the celebrities and what their signs are I'm like this girl is like this is her thing like and I think that's cool even if it's not something I would choose to spend my time studying like she really came off awesome I completely agree I liked her so much I kind of like found myself like being like rubbed the

wrong way when it came to Danielle. Like I feel like she's just like living for the fact that now everyone's talking about her for the first time in her career on this show. Her, you know, narrative is not being Lindsay's mouthpiece. She's actually at odds with Lindsay. And I feel like she was just like eating it up. Like anytime she was asked like a controversial question she was like loving that she had something to say and Andy was like let's play a game now that you and Lindsay aren't friends like do you regret defending Lindsay like or do you think like he would ask her questions do you think Lindsay was wrong here do you regret defending her here and it was like everything she was like yeah she was wrong yeah I regretted it it's like okay so unscrupled oh interesting I didn't get to that part because I thought this stuff in the first quarter of the episode was um how you would speak about an ex-friend

with respect like she didn't have that many regrets a few she did where she obviously could see that she was just like blinded by her friendship but nothing crazy who knows um other than that like it was actually quite a boring episode and I feel like it made a great case for Carl and Lindsay yeah they're the whole show they're the whole show like that tea party was boring as fuck why are there literally two guys in this house i don't know and all the girls are single like why aren't we taking the opportunity to try and find love here it's so and one of the guys is married right and the other one can't get arrested right And everyone like flirts with him but doesn't actually like him. Yeah.

And they just have these like random guys coming in the house who we don't know. Yeah. And make them in the house. That guy, the boxer, he was cute as fuck. Like let him be a castmate. Yeah. And Chris's friend, Rob, throw him in the house. Yeah.

Literally anyone. Just some guys. Throw him in. Throw him in. And you Yeah, literally anyone. Just some guys, throw him in. Throw him in. And you saw Maya and Oliver are broken up. Yes, and so are Robert and Danielle. Well, that I knew. And that makes me sad

because they've been together a really long time. Me too. But I didn't know Maya and Oliver were broken up until this morning. And again, just the way that all the girls and the guys like behave on the show in their relationships outside of Carl and Lindsay, I just find like so like kind of not serious. So not serious.

Like the way they're all like, oh, that's my boyfriend. He's your boyfriend. Like, where's my boyfriend? Like everyone has like these fake affairs within the. And they like never spend the night. No. And it's like, oh, Paige, Maya's in love with Craig and Paige is in love with Oliver it's like that was talk with my friends like how we're fake in love with each

other's boyfriends no that was weird and that's how you like know that the Maya Oliver relationship wasn't serious even though they were together for a year and when she talked about it on Watch Happens Live last week like it was bitter like they did not end well yeah I saw a quote this morning that said that there were so many red flags that she didn't see. Trust the red flags. I want to know what happened. They broke up in September. So maybe something happens on the show. But she said even the way that they're acting on the show right now, like he wasn't acting with red flags.

So right. Right. Then you broke up a month later. I don't know. I did also really like how Sam was like really into that guy. And then he did one thing she didn't like. And she didn't sleep with him. Like it was funny.

I actually really like Sam. And then he did one thing she didn't like. And she like didn't sleep with him. Like it was funny. I actually really like Sam. What did he do? He would just like, she was dancing on the table, having so much fun. And he like was just being lame. No. Okay.

I agree. Like that. She, you know, she obviously knows her mind, but I disagree with her theory that she wants someone as big and bright. Agreed. And loud as her.

No, no, you don't girl. You don't want someone like, and you don't want someone who's going to get a dance on the tables with you and compete for attention with you. You are this bright light. You're the star.

Agreed. And you need someone who just loves you and admires you and is going to be down there watching you being like, oh my God, I can't believe how lucky I am. Not someone up there with you. Completely agree. Two attention whores are explosive. Yeah.

No, and opposites attract in all senses. Agreed. A hundred percent. You don't want like two extremely shy people together either. You know what? I thought that. Someone needs to send the order back to the restaurant when it's wrong. So true, Ben Soffer.

I thought that the conversation about Amanda and her birth control was so interesting. Yeah. It made me so sad for her. And I obviously like, I keep up with her on social media. I've seen, especially last, yeah, last summer where she looked so thin and not a commentary on her weight, but almost like, like it wasn't, like it was spiraling. Like she couldn't control it.

And I feel so sad. And I hope she went to a doctor. I think she's going to a doctor like in the next few weeks on this show I hope today she has like the answers that she needs as to what happened but that that was like very sad and alarming yeah and I have heard um a lot of people I know who have been on birth control for a while having this problem when they get off of it and wanting to have children yeah I've not heard of this specifically. Like I've heard, you know, getting off of birth control, it's hard to regulate your period again. It could take a while to get pregnant. I've not heard of losing your period completely. Oh, I have. Really?

That's really scary. I know. And you know what? When I was watching it this morning, it reminded me of a conversation we had on the toast last week about like things in our house that we just didn't do growing up. And we grew up in like a non-birth control house. Yeah. None of us were ever on the pill. Hormonal birth control. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

So like when I would get older and like all my friends were on birth control, either they had bad periods or they had boyfriends. I was like, oh my, that's so crazy. Like we don't do that. Yeah. But now that a lot of stuff has come out about birth control, and I think we're at an age

where people are getting off of birth control and seeing kind of what happened and then starting to evaluate why they went on it in the first place. It's like, oh, if you're having painful periods, we shouldn't cover up that pain. Like we should address why it's so painful. Like people are finding out

that they have endometriosis or now just finding out that they have PCOS when they're trying to get pregnant. Like I think we do like, uh, have a large audience of women here. And I think that's something that people should just be aware of and people don't realize until they get off of birth control, which is when you get off of birth control because you want to start having kids and then you have to kind of undo a lot of stuff. So I would just consider that because that was a really sad thing to hear.

I know. Oh my God. And I feel like her voice was like cracking. Like she was so sad about it. Yeah. I thought it was like kind of crazy how Sam asked that question. Like she kind of like raw dog,

ripped the bandaid off. I feel like a producer told her to. I agree. I don't think it was like a her thing, but that's kind of like, I thought we're beyond that, you know? Yeah.

No, it was like kind of insulting. Yeah. But I think Amanda was ready to open up, you know, cause she didn't, she could have said, she could have said,

Oh, we're not ready. Like I'm just living life, you know? Yeah. So I think she maybe wanted to talk about it, but, um,

yeah, it seemed like a setup because if it wasn't, it was fucking nuts. Yeah. It just sort of came out of nowhere. Like they were asking some, wasn't it was fucking nuts yeah it just sort of came out of nowhere like they were asking some yeah it was just I don't know it was bizarre um so again like not a really titillating episode but Carl and Lindsay are back next week so it should be good I miss them I'm obsessed with them I kind of am too I'm obsessed like I just they're like so unbothered yeah and I also think just given

how quickly they're moving in their relationship they might have kids soon yeah because and they kept comparing Carl and Amanda to Carl and Lindsay and it's like it's so fucking rude it's like who's gonna have kids first they said it on the show and then they said I'll watch what happens live and it's like especially after we just agreed what we heard about Amanda like why are we playing this game on the show um but Lindsay is older than Amanda they're yeah you know Amanda and Carl dated for how many years before they got engaged Lindsay and Carl Amanda and Kyle you keep saying Carl I think you guys know what I mean but okay yeah it's hard like the names are the same Amanda and Kyle dated for years before they got engaged Lindsay and Carl dated for under a year and got engaged I actually could see them having kids much sooner

because they're really serious and she's older. So even though she had the eggs of a 20 year old. Yeah, but she also does want kids because she had had that pregnancy. Remember Winter House? So it's like, it's top of mind for her. I could see it too. Yeah, so I hope that, I don't know.

I hope they're, I hope they stay together and that it's real and that like, you know, I think they will. They're toxically into each other, like for the right reasons. I agree. But when they were doing the Watched Happens Live polls last night,

like, I don't think people agree with us. Like everyone, everyone, the audience I think is on team everyone, not on team Carl and Lindsay. It's easy to be on team everyone. It makes you feel good.

You're like, Oh, I'm normal. Everyone thinks like I do so true you know I understand it we're free thinkers I understand the impulse to just want to side with everyone it's so much easier we're independent thought leaders 100 percent um so that's our show it's a good one I really enjoy talking to you girl I always enjoy talking to you tur. And I can't wait till we end the show and we FaceTime in two seconds to talk some more. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast, the millennial morning show where we deliver the fast-five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up.

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