The Toast - Smartless: Wednesday, September 20th, 2023

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Wednesday. Hope everybody's having a great day thus far. I am. You are? My leg kind of hurts. Oh, how hard for you. Yeah, my leg really, really hurts.

Turdy's going through a tough time, you guys. Yeah, just like, turdy down. Turdy down. Turdy out. Yeah. And I'm actually not having a great day. Today's the day I'm leaving. I know. There's a somber energy that's come over the house. Dare I say ady down. Turdy out. Yeah. And I'm actually not having a great day. Today's the day I'm leaving. I know.

There's a somber energy that's come over the house. Dare I say a great cloud. So mentally and physically. Strained. Strained. Strained. Yeah. And I'm like racing home to get to my book club.

It's like going to be so chaotic. But you finished your book. I finished my book. Yeah. I haven't read it in so long because I'm still 50% through A Court of Thorns and Roses. ACOTAR. Yeah. Because I can't remember what it stands for.

And I don't know if I'm going to be able to finish it because soon I have to start reading for the Redheads. And we're reading The Fourth Wing, which is similar to ACOTAR, but I think better because I haven't heard one foul word about Fourth Wing. So I don't know what's going to between akatar and i yikes but i really just want to finish it just to finish it just like you know check it off the good read your yeah towards your count like i put 50 in no you have to finish it i have to get 50 out get to work i guess so i just haven't picked up my kindle since i gave birth i hadn't picked up my kindle

all month like until i had to read for book club. It just like wasn't a big reading month. Maybe I need to switch to a smaller Kindle right now. Maybe it's like the idea of holding Charles and my big ass Kindle scribe. Yeah. They're two heavy items. Yeah. No, it's definitely a Sophie's choice.

It's very much not. Yeah. It's very much not. Who had a choice? Oh, Irina's choice. That's a good, that's when you have two good choices. Oh, Irina's not. Yeah. It's very much not. Who had a choice? Oh, Irena's choice. That's a good, that's when you have two good choices. Oh, Irena's shake. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when you have two good choices. Okay, so that's like kind of the opposite of a D'Andra's choice. Yeah. Irena's choice, like a. An embarrassment of riches. An embarrassment of riches, exactly. So I guess between a Kindle and a baby, I have an Irena's choice.

Oh, and for me, between, you know, being here with you and Bruno and being home with Theo, that's an irena's choice oh and for me between you know being here with you and bruno and being home with theo that's also an irena's choice it is if you look at the world through the lens of irena laughs about joy laughs about pain speaking of bruno he's here today speaking of bruno he is here today and he is providing his mommy with some very necessary body heat let's talk about what's going on in your studio. Like the icicles forming on the edge of my nipples are real. It's one degree in this place. It's so cold.

It's colder than it's ever been. And it's been cold all week. It's always cold because as we discussed, podcasting is a physical sport. A hundred percent. Not an Olympic sport, but it should be. So when people ask, Claudia, do you work out? Yeah. Yeah.

I podcast daily. Sometimes twice. Sometimes thr daily. Sometimes twice. Sometimes thrice. Sometimes vlog. Sometimes vlog. Sometimes, yeah. Actually, this is a vlog too, technically. We vlog every day.

We're so, like, we're on-camera correspondents. We're literally, like, famous. We're just famous, you know? We're constantly on camera we're famous so is brew so what i was gonna say yeah was that brew is providing his mommy with some really necessary how nice for you i mean you're the one wearing a big old sweatshirt like i'm over here freezing well i could bestow upon you something that i know that you want where i i looked before there was a blanket i didn't see it you guys guys, it's one degree. Give me that.

Why have you been hiding it? I just didn't want to lean over. Oh. I'm having a cramp. Oh. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. We had such a gorgeous night last night.

Like, it's really fun living in a house. Isn't it? Because, like, of course, you can do the same things that you do. In an apartment. In an apartment. Like, read, spend time with family, eat, watch TV. But in a house, we're like, should we read outside? You know, there's just like different places.

Different nooks. To do your favorite activities. So last night we decided to eat ice cream and watch TV in Jackie's room. It was delightful. It was. It was really cozy and sweet. And Bruna was there, of course. Of course. And Charles. And Charles. And Charles. It was really cozy and sweet. And Bruna was there, of course. Of course.

And Charles. And Charles. Harry was already sleeping. That's why I was like, what's the point? But we were watching Magnolia Table and it was thundering and lightning like crazy. Such a good vibe. It was such a good vibe. And I'm loving watching Magnolia Table.

Like that's my content vibe right now. Cooking shows. But as we've discovered over the last few days, there's really a gap in the market for cooking shows. They kind of all suck. Well, this is what we've been talking about for decades. This is what we've been talking about for decades. Like this shift at the Food Network to competition shows, baking, bake-offs.

Like they don't make just classic woman on camera in her kitchen type of shows anymore. Yeah. It's always got an edge. Of course we could go back and watch the old episodes cause they used to make a million of them. But now watching content from like 15 years ago, it's not premium. Yeah.

Let me tell you what's wrong with all of them. Barefoot Contessa, her camera's blurry. Like literally. From a million years ago. It's 20 years ago at this point. And honestly. The recipes are like too fast paced. It's like, I want to relax. I want to watch you do the whole process. They're not fast paced.

In my opinion, they're not good. Like it's just not what I would want to eat. That's also a problem because Joanna Gaines mostly cooks for her kids. I find myself like every episode, there's something I would eat there, you know? Yeah. And then we watched Rachel Ray last night and I hate to speak ill of queen Rachel Ray cause she's actually someone I deeply admire and respect, but her cooking show is chaos. Like it's, and I understand why she, you know because she's actually someone I deeply admire and respect but her cooking show is chaos like it's and I understand why she you know she's under the gun it's 30 minute meals she's making a meal for her family there's a gun to her head and you know what she hasn't hit that 30 minutes she's not hiding it well like she's panicked everything is running jumping scraping like it's not relaxing to watch whatsoever and Jackie warned me she's like you're

not gonna like Rachel Ray she's a chaos machine and I'm like you don't know Rachel like I know her Claudia I'm having deja vu because literally years ago on the toast we had this conversation I had this conversation I was telling you about how Rachel Ray is chaotic and you're like no no because you love her and you like I have like a weird you speak so highly of her I think I like have fond memories of like watching her I think I like have fond memories of like watching her I think she had 30 minutes meal many meals was always on a grammy's house okay like and I just remember like laying in those big leather chairs like I feel a nostalgia to Rachel and I do I'm not ashamed of that okay but you just are constantly defending her and

it's funny because you literally sound like me for verbatim if someone could go and find that clip or if you just watched it recently while we were on hiatus like i literally am talking about how rachel ray is chaotic and her 30 minute meals are god no it's just like we're simpatico congrats we're simp it's me saying you said it first add it to the list that's not what i was saying add it to the list i certainly will but that's not what i was saying well it doesn't change the fact that rachel ray like was saying Well it doesn't change the fact That Rachel Ray like Is chaos

No it doesn't But that's just like You missed my whole point Congratulations Congratulations Oh She's annoying today Congratulations

She's annoying This mama got up Nurse three times To sit with I got up too And be annoyed I got up too I'm not in my own home.

I'm using like trash CVS makeup. Like I'm, I'm here too. What happened to your makeup that I got from Olivia's? I, you know what's, do you notice this in the, like the different temperatures here? Does your makeup like in Florida, like feel different when you put it on than in New York? No. Like everything I have in my makeup kit, like my foundation's like chunky. Everything feels like it's like separating. It just feels like different climate like is affecting how the makeup sits in its tubes. Do you not think it's

because it's old like it's six months to a year old? It's all my makeup is like old. Like I don't buy like everything new. Like I use things forever. Yeah. And it's not like that old. And especially like I keep buying new stuff. I just feel like when i put on makeup here it's different that's interesting i haven't had that experience and i had like my new york makeup and my florida makeup when i came back i've been using both and i haven't noticed a difference so i on that we're not simpatico i just feel like it's like chunky is it possible like with the climate but your house is so cold like this is so cold surprise my makeup doesn't have like icicles you can't blame the climate? But your house is so cold. My house is so cold. I'm surprised my makeup doesn't have, like, icicles on it. You can't blame the climate.

No, I can't. I just feel like, I don't know, something's amiss. I think maybe it's old. But it's not. Like, every time I'm here, I go buy new makeup. From where? From everywhere. Like, whenever I went to the mall.

Like, I'm always, like, you know, keeping my kit fresh. Okay. Yeah. I'm sorry you're going through that. It's been tough, and Rachel Ray's been no help. But Joanna has been. So that was the point. We landed,

like Joanna Gaines is really kind of the only cooking show worth watching. Like we've done the research. Yeah. So you don't have to. We kind of need more new cooking shows.

We need more women in the kitchen. Mm-hmm. Get back into the kitchen. That's what I've been saying for years. Like women belong in the kitchen. Could you into the kitchen. That's what I've been saying for years. Women belong in the kitchen. Could you imagine marketing a cooking show by a man? Yeah, like Emeril. Mario

is not the vibe. What's his name? Mario Badali. Badescu. No. He's cancelled. Mario Badescu is makeup, skincare. But he's cancelled. And Mario Badali, yeah he had some scandal at his restaurant. I thought on his show. No, I think it was like staff from his restaurant. Yeah he had some scandal at his restaurant i thought on his show no i think it was like staff from his restaurant yeah it was staff from his restaurant but he was

also on a show like a morning show about food like taste the day the chew or something and he was doing stuff damn but i have no idea what that stuff is i'm just saying because i haven't followed there have been men chefs no no, no, I can recognize that. But we both, I know what we're both saying. The kitchen is a place for a woman. And I don't want to watch a man on TV in the kitchen.

Yeah, I just think that if you have hairy knuckles, like you really shouldn't. You shouldn't be kneading my dough. No, you get your hands out of my food. Like get your hands out of my food with your hairy knuckles. I totally agree.

So writing and cooking. Are for the girls. Leave it to the women yeah and we'll see what else is for the women as we continue on with today's show yes we shall this has been a rough week for stories has it i mean i chose them like two days and i maybe i actually just don't like choosing the stories it's a lot of pressure maybe that's it heavy is the head that chooses the stories. It's a lot of pressure. Maybe that's it. Heavy is the head that chooses the stories. Yeah, but I feel like for me, I'm always concerned. Like I want our episodes to be long and like full of good tangents and stuff.

So if I'm choosing the stories, that usually means you're not here. And if I'm choosing the stories, like if you're choosing the stories, the other person like doesn't know, like the story is like a launch pad. Like we don't have to talk about the story. Like let's talk about ourselves. Right. so if they don't recognize that like I'm just left with this crap story yeah and you have to treat it like a real story right but if it's like a gorgeous story me and the co-host could talk about it endlessly but I just like I need people to like get the with the program like the stories are just like a merely a launching pad for

us to dive into other topics like you, you know, whatever that may be. So that's why I personally hate choosing the story. It's like, if you choose a bad story, like we're going to find a way to talk about whatever. It doesn't matter. It doesn't affect the length. You know that it's not about the stories here. And it's never been about the stories here. Never.

It's either the fast five. We're trying to get them over with. I can't get through them quick enough sometimes. Like yesterday, like dark times, really dark times. But I'm not concerned with the length so much. I get concerned with the length of the show just because of ad placement. Like it's a formula in my brain. Right, that is on your plate.

Right. And so when both things are on my plate, I'm panicked. It's a lot for one plate. That's why when I'm back at the studio in New York, I pre-record my ads. Yeah, that's fun. Just so I can place them and really just be in the moment with my co-hosts. Also, I'm heading back. Carpe Diem. Carpe Diem.

Seize the motherfucking day. I'm headed back to New York today. And I have literally nothing scheduled because I canceled everyone and everything for Thursday and Friday because I thought I would be here forever. So I've rescheduled everyone. And we have a really good couple of weeks coming up. But Thursday, Friday this week, I'm not sure. Well, I'll do Friday.

Okay. So Thursday. Taylor Strecker. What if I just called Taylor up? Why don't you just call Taylor up? And that's exactly what I'm going to do. Love that. So we've got a great show because it's Wednesday,

which means it's Dear Toasters Day. Dear Toasters is our weekly advice segment. On Wednesdays, we help out the girlies. We tell them, get back in the kitchen, girl. What are you doing out here in the conference room? Life is just so much simpler if we stay in the kitchen. You know what? Like, I'm joking, but I'm dead serious.

No, when I watch these cooking shows, it's like, why did we ever leave? Yeah, except- Like, the fact that Joanna, even though it's unrealistic at this point in her life that she's, like, making gourmet dinners for her kids every single night. Every single night. Appetizer, entree, and dessert. Like that she's like making gourmet dinners for her kids every single night. Appetizer, entree, dessert. And dessert. Like she's literally making taco night and a cake.

And a tres leches cake. But like there was a time when like, you know, if the kids are off at school, what am I doing this afternoon? I'm making a three course meal. Yeah. But no, instead. I'm working. I'm podcasting.

No. And the thing is, when I look at like a woman in the kitchen on TV, it's idyllic. But Joanna Gaines is the opposite of a woman in a kitchen. She runs a billion dollar business. Right, right. Yeah, here she is in the kitchen. Right. Makes you think.

No matter how far we come. We're always just going to be back in the kitchen. But it's a nice place to be. It is, it is. But watching her was making my back hurt mostly because my back hurts but there is an expiration on how long i can stand in the kitchen of course same and i didn't just give birth like yeah i can't i'm really i was just telling you my legs hurt like i can't be like that active i look forward to the day when i'm not like on a clock of like when until my back breaks.

Yeah, yeah. You'll get there. Like I have like 10 standing minutes, 20 standing minutes. You'll get there. Yeah. It's just painful. And I want to get back in the kitchen. Of course.

Where I belong. Where you literally go. I know. Well, Joanna made this lasagna. Yeah. And you know, she did it in a Dutch oven. So she didn't have to like the torture of lasagna is like making your noodles, layering. She just threw it all in this pot.

Well, that's the beauty of a lasagna. It really is a one pot dish. But it requires a lot of work before it's in one pot. Right. But I love a one pot dish. And a lasagna is a casserole, they say. Yep. Not the way she made it.

Cause she made it in a Dutch oven. Instead of a casserole dish? Yeah. True. But could you make a casserole in a Dutch oven? Yum. But then it wouldn't of a casserole dish true but could you make a casserole in a dutch oven yum but then it wouldn't be a casserole really what makes a casserole dish the dish but what's what are the specs of a casserole dish what would you say is your favorite dish um a mug that's like one of my favorite moments to cite in pop culture history and i wonder if

demetria lovato truly knows like was she in on the joke when she said that like this foreign imagine like someone who's so talented and singing wise could be like that funny yeah but the thing is like the person interviewing her i think she was doing like foreign television so maybe demi was just like lost in like i think she was lost in there's no way because it's literally so funny yeah and she said like she was spitting facts like she loves a bug like it keeps your drinks hot and she was not wrong for that what's your favorite dish which kind of dish kitchenware kitchenware and like i guess dish like for eating. Wait, so. As opposed to like for cooking, because that feels like two different questions. My favorite dish.

Like, I don't know. I don't cook. But I guess the dish I make chili in, which is my Dutch oven. Oh, OK. And dish for like eating. Like a fork? What's your go-to vessel? A fork?

Like a bowl? You do like a bowl. Oh, I see your question. I don't know. A fork isn't a dish. No, you know what it is? Yeah, it is. What do you mean?

A fork? Is a dish. My brain hurts. And to answer your question, my favorite dish is a paper plate. Like that's my favorite way to consume like a sandwich or something factual that was one of the more like brain numbing conversations we've had i hope you guys actually made it through that to hear the rest of this episode because there's going to be a lot of smart things that happen in this episode and you won't want to miss them this

episode is you know what it should be titled smartless because like we're being dumb we're less smart and maybe it'll like confuse people who are looking for the by the way we're naming today's episode smartless and maybe it'll get the attention of the smartless guys i'm like we're over here no but i don't want to get their attention on this episode yeah they're like wow those two girls are morons and they complain they're not number one okay but we are gonna are going to call today's episode Smartless. Like just because I think Wednesday's episodes always do really well for us. And even if there wasn't another podcast called Smartless,

like that should be the title of this episode. It's appropriate because we're being dumb. I was going to say less smart. Equals dumb. So glad we settled that. Should we dive in, girlfriend? Yes, without further ado to do about our favorite dishes it is time for the fast five stories that you maybe or maybe not need to know

i'm gonna go with maybe not today no i think you know they're not actually not bad you never know what else you'll find out in between the story also like if you made it through yesterday's stories like you'll be fine life is about reading between the stories i love that could your finger be closer to my face i'm gonna get a bigger studio bitch like i'm gonna go cross-eyed am i that close do it to me oh yeah like i can see your whole nail okay more dumb Okay. More dumb shit. Today's episode really is dumb. Okay. Well, this is a dumbass episode. Maybe it's time for us to go back to the kitchen.

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Are you ready for the stories now? I guess. Joe Jonas' exes, Sophie Turner and Taylor Swift, step out for a girl's night amid divorce and diverse. The diverse divorcing. Sophie Turner stepped out for a girl's night with Joe's ex and her friend, Taylor Swift, in New York City on Tuesday night. They grabbed dinner at Via Corota.

Turner, who split from Joe earlier this month after four years of marriage, showed off her stomach in a plunging halter top, matching pants and sneakers. They both wore ponytails. OK, so nobody cares about their ponytails. Everybody was like freaking. I hate that like we're referring like Taylor Swift is like not Joe Jonas's ex. Like that's literally someone she dated in middle school. Yeah's at this point it's a convenient story it's a coincidence really because they are just friends right and they're just like Hollywood starlets

who are hanging out really having nothing to do it might be that like they only know each other because at one point or maybe they're as close as they are because at one point in time Taylor and Joe knew each other but like they're really not exes. Like, let's calm down. Or do you think that they actually would have been closer if it wasn't like they had this mutual? No. At the time, like, because even like, they probably would have been friends regardless of Joe.

But when it's technically your man's ex, how close are you going to get? No, it's really not your man's ex. They dated when they were like literally 17. It doesn't count. But it counts't count but it counts for Taylor everything counts for Taylor no and I actually think like her being married to Taylor's like high school boyfriend is the reason they are so close because like Taylor obviously has made amends with Joe now I send their baby's presents and she leaned on uh Sophie during like the fearless era fearless she was

like promoting a bunch of Mr. Perfectly Fine so I think like they're close because she's a Swifty but they have this like connection and it's not weird because no it's not weird and I don't think they spent dinner like trashing Joe no I actually don't even think they spoke about it like I think she was just trying to get her girly like out on the town you know positive vibes divorce party I'm sure they spoke about it because it's like the biggest thing going on in Sophie's life but Taylor wasn't coming from a place of experience like no like he did the same thing to me right no like I bet she doesn't even remember we're not the same they don't she doesn't even remember the time they spent together like seriously but you know she does because she remembers everything yeah oh I remember she remembers well. Yeah. Oh, I remember.

She remembers. Well, this was fabulous. And it did make me a little annoyed because I was supposed to go home on Sunday. And Taylor has been out and about. She was at Zero Bond via Corota. Like, I could have been. I probably would have been laying in bed, but I could have been. Yeah.

Maybe Zero Bond. Probably not via Corota. No. I don't know you to go there. I don't really. But now I need to start. But this looks fun. It does.

And it feels like a choice, you know? It is, it is. And the paparazzi photos of them leaving the restaurant are really cute. But then when you watch like the actual walking out of the restaurant take place on video, it's apocalyptic. There are 5,000 people, like girls just, and there's not even like a barricade or anything they're just standing outside the door of the restaurant giving taylor and sophie like room to walk nobody like attacked them or anything it was the weirdest thing to watch like the actual video yeah they usually are it's like kind of awkward yeah and they and really but the pictures

wind up like being fabulous because and i've noticed this like they walk really slow taylor and sophie were walking really slow like hand in hand in unison because like this is a fabulous photo this is a great press moment for both of them especially when the press has been like really mean to sophie recently so they're walking like literal zombies like so slow and intentional funny yeah it is well i hope they had fun me too what do you like what do you think they did afterwards like bake cookies and drink wine yeah but then why'd they go out to dinner? Well, maybe for this picture. To be spotted.

And like, you know, they're both women in the media. Like they got to be seen. And what do you think about the outfits? Oh, let me see. Oh, I thought Taylor looked very cool. Like I would literally never wear the jacket, but like she looked fabulous. And it's giving, you know, Sophie's outfit is giving like the big pants trend we were talking about recently.

It's not my favorite. I think it's actually terrible. I think Taylor looks amazing. What do you think? I think there's elements of each outfit that I appreciate, but as a whole, not my favorite. But there's elements. Taylor has never been, like I love my queen would literally lay my life out on the line for her. She has never been, been, been, she has never been like the best dressed celebrity at any moment in time yeah she always does a good job it's never

life-changing it's never you know edgy or daring it's just fine I wonder why she doesn't go all the way right like with it like the best stylist don't have to think about it I don't know but I also think like her outfits like actually really are a reflection of her personal style and I just don't have to think about it I don't know but I also think like her outfits like actually really are a reflection of her personal style and I just don't think her personal style is like that crazy or amazing yeah because like which is fine you know what is so fine I actually the more I think about it I appreciate it the best at everything no and all of her creativity like it's channeled into her music songwriting and I do wish like more celebrities would dress themselves no and it's like everybody all the time. Like there are some celebrities who like just crush it

and street style is like literally- And have like a natural- Is their brand. Ability to like style themselves. They also have stylists. Yeah, of course. But they also have a natural ability to just like carry the latest trends.

Yeah. Not talking about them. But like it is fun to see what people would pick out their own outfits as. To go to dinner with a friend. Right. Yeah. I agree. Like it doesn't have to be like go to dinner with a friend. Right. Yeah. I agree.

Like it doesn't have to be like the most at the airport all the time. Yeah. Like it's setting unrealistic expectations for women who are supposed to be in the kitchen. Right. Do less. Put on your apron. Call it a day. Put on your apron and your oven mitts.

Like that's all you're going to need to wear today. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Kim Kardashian has been quote hanging out with Odell Beckham Jr. So Page Six is reporting that Kim and Odell have been spending some time, quality time together in recent weeks. An insider told Page Six that Kim and the Baltimore Ravens wide receiver. Oh, I thought he was on the Giants.

That was like a million years ago. Have been hanging out casually following his split from his girlfriend, Lola however sources to both Kim and Odell tell page six the pair are friends and have been mostly hanging out in groups as they share a lot of mutual acquaintances they insisted that Kim is not seriously dating anyone at the moment but is open to finding love again if she meets the right person however right now her main focus is her kids and her business um I do think that he's actually like probably a good match for her. He's like a really well-respected football player. And I feel like he's like a cool person too.

Like a lot of celebrities like him and hang out with him. So he must be like a great guy. I'm just kind of in like my, I don't care about Kim era. Do you feel like I actually yawned when you said this story? You chose it. I did. Oh my God. I did.

Thank you. Because like, I did oh my god I did thank you because like I like people care I guess but I just maybe I maybe I chose it so I could you know get on my soapbox and be like Kim's not doing it for me recently okay yeah I kind of feel like it's still in that lull yeah of quietness and also this to me feels really obvious like maybe they are dating great maybe they're just friends great right don't care either way great it's not like an inspired different like we could talk about it for hours and like kim's in a new era and trying like new things like pete davidson we spoke about at length because it was so crazy and i really expected that like the next person she dates would be like a

private person yeah not a celebrity so for her to be dating like a charming single celebrity who everybody loves right who's like a eligible bachelor yeah it's obvious yeah so and then also the same sources who say they're dating are also saying they're not dating and they're just hanging out as friends okay well that also is a good launching pad for me to ask you like what do you think is going on truly with Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey? Because there's been like a few updates, no confirmation of any sorts, but like it kind of feels like they're not dating and Travis is like excited to let people think that they are.

That's exactly what it feels like. Also, did you see that Jason Kelsey like said they're dating? Kind of. And then said he doesn't know what goes on in Travis's life. Travis's personal life, but he hopes he ends up with someone great, you know? Yeah. They're so not dating. No, I think they're literally not dating, but she'll never come out and say that they're

not dating. She just lets people say whatever they want about her. So he's like basking in the fame and the press. I really feel like these two people I've never met. Yeah. It was like when Harry Jousey was dating Khloe Kardashian. Like he's going to milk it. Of course.

Eat it up. These people are not dating. I would expect that from like a reality star and influencer and podcaster. I wouldn't expect that from Travis Kelsey. But I had said at the end of last football season where it was like Kelsey this, Kelsey that. Like Travis is a little thirsty. Yeah.

He's silly. And he doesn't take himself seriously, which I appreciate. So he'll have fun with rumors like this. Yeah. I don't think he's really trying to convince people that he's dating Taylor, but it's like, oh, that's funny. Let me go with it. And then Taylor was wearing like a necklace.

She was like going to record music and paparazzi got her and it was a necklace and it happened to be like his birthstone. Which is what? I don't know. Let me Google his birthstone. It's probably like diamond. Like it's right. That's what I'm saying.

Ruby. Right. Like necklaces are made with different types of stones all the time. It's not a coincidence. No, but there are some like my birthstone. Nobody's just casually walking around with it. Yellow topaz. Oh, I agree.

So he celebrates his birthday on October 5th. Making it. He's a Libra and opal. It's giving yellow topaz. It's a little niche. What's my birthstone? Ruby, I think. I think so too.

I was about to search Claudia Asher birthstone. I'm sure it would come up. July birthstone is Ruby. That's a good one. Ooh, look at these Ruby items. Give me something. I like this ring. Even when she's working, she can't stop investing.

Back to the kitchen. From Grown Brilliance. That's a nice ring. Hold on, sorry. My $100iance. That's a nice ring. Hold on. Sorry. My $100 gift. That is a nice ring. I don't love my birthstone.

What am I going to wear? Red jewelry? Just be glad it's not yellow topaz. Yeah, show me. I don't even know what a yellow topaz looks like. Me neither. That's definitely one of the worst ones. Which one is diamond?

That's not fair. Margo, I think. No, Margo's emerald. Oh like that's not fair margo i think no margo's emerald oh that's nice which is a really nice one oh it's yellow it's just yellow it's topaz and citrine can you diamond birth just pull the list of all the birthstones that's a good call instead of each one we'll be here for 12 hours. But I just have to say, like, birthstones? Get a life. Random. No,

I agree. Like, birthstones, people who like, I mean, that's literally us right now. I was going to be like, people who talk about birthstones,

like, get a life. No, but seriously, get a life. Like, whoever noticed that Taylor Swift was wearing a topaz or whatever it was, opal.

Like, why do you know that? Okay. January. Okay., opal. Like, why do you know that? Okay. January. Okay. Garnet. Ooh, that might be worse than yellow topaz. Agreed.

It's just red and it's not ruby. Right. February, amethyst. Not bad. Fun to say, amethyst. Amethyst. March, aquamarine. That movie saved that birthstone.

A hundred percent. April, diamond. Fuck, that's bad's been may emerald now let me ask you a question are these like horoscope dates or is it all of april month okay month which is much more palatable for me what did you say may was emerald beautiful june pearl beautiful that's nice and Alexandrite. Oh, they get two. I guess November has two also. We'll get to it. July, Ruby.

Mm-hmm. August, Peridot. But it's pretty. It's like a lime green. I just feel like July should have gotten diamond. Like if our horoscope sign is going to be cancer. But I don't think the people who invented birthstones and horoscopes were chatting. I just think somebody should have been, you know, thinking about the people born in July.

Yeah. And they weren't. They weren't. September, sapphire. Gorgeous. October, opal and tourmaline, which is pink. Cute. Tourmaline, yeah.

You know that? Yeah. How? I don't know. I never heard of it. I have. What do you, like, when I like me move on keep going congrats november congrats congrats

november oh my god our camera's not recording yes it is gotcha gotcha november yellow topaz and citrine citrine sounds like something you clean your sink with we have two yellow stones yellow stone yellow that's my birthstone yellow stone and December blue topaz and blue zircon not the zirconia they have two blue stones So It definitely feels like the distribution Oh excuse me It definitely feels like the distribution of good Burr stones like is not Fair

Yeah but it's just like there's only a handful of great stones Diamond, emerald, sapphire Ruby Pearl Aquamarine Now you like pearls right Do I? I feel like you do I feel like you've been wearing pearls recently I haven't Pearl. Aquamarine. Pearl. Now you like pearls, right? Do I?

I feel like you do. I feel like you've been wearing pearls recently. I haven't. I know what conversation we're talking about. Like you and I were, but no. You were like looking for a set of pearls. No, I bought a necklace that was made of pearl. Remember?

No. I'm picking it up next week. Remember? I made a big investment I told you about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's actually not what I'm talking about. No, it is. I thought you were looking for a set of pearls. No, I really think.

To complete your like classy look. No, I think like a pearl necklace is like the weirdest thing. Oh, you're still on that? Yeah. Okay, so I won't add it to the list yet. Yeah, no, not yet. Are you ready for our next story? What number?

Three. Tres leches? Tres leches cake. Yeah. Dana White extends her Wheel of Fortune contract through the 2025-2026 season. Dana White has extended her contract on Wheel of Fortune by two years as the show begins its farewell season

with longtime host Pat Sajak. Dana has inked a contract extension that keeps her revealing letters on the durable syndicated game show through 2025 to 2026. Pat announced earlier this year his plans to retire. Ryan Seacrest will be taking on his role. I forgot that it was Ryan Seacrest.

And then there were a lot of questions about will Vanna usher Ryan into the new era? It should really be, have we said this, that it should be Julianne Hough and Ryan Seacrest? No, we haven't. It should be like, she'll sashay her way across that thing yeah to the letters and they could fall in love again yeah it's like a will they won't they right and that's what it's really always been like for you think vanna and pat ever fucked for sure it's hollywood it's hollywood baby like definitely but this is interesting because there were a lot of questions like,

and I think also people felt like Vanna, maybe Vanna should have Pat's job. No, I think people were also feeling like Vanna, give it up. Ooh. Because also I had heard that like Pat Sajak's daughter was like a pageant queen who was like in the running for the next Vanna position. Well, she'll just have to wait till 2026. But Vanna said, hold my letters, bitch. I'm going back. But I also feel like Vanna drove a hard bargain

because she brings a lot of the old time legitimacy to the show. Yep. And if everything is all new, then it will be ruined like everything else that's all new. Yes, but also like rip off the bandaid. We're changing Pat, like just switch it up. I don't think so.

I feel like they do that all the time where they're like we want young and fresh and everybody you're fired gen z yeah and it turns to shit so i think like this slow rollout and eventually vanna can go but i think her being there to show ryan the ropes and let viewers know like the show's not changing too much because you have to think of the viewers of the show and they're not Gen Z. No, they're not. They're not watching in between Renegades.

I feel like people look at Vanna White and they're like, that's such an easy job. Anyone could do it. And to be honest, I can't think of a job I'd like less. Like standing in heels for hours. We see 30 minutes, but they shoot so many episodes back to back. We don't see them cutting. We don't see them resetting the lights.

She has to be like perfect posture, perfect smile on her face. My God, like that actually sounds horrible. Yeah. What about when Vanna's having a hard day? What about what Vanna wants? What about what Vanna needs?

Well, she definitely got a nice hefty contract and we'll see her through 2025 to 2026. She's like a really good level of celebrity in the sense that she has like household recognition. Like she's. She's a household name. Everybody knows her name. And like if I saw her at the grocery store, I probably wouldn't recognize her. And I certainly wouldn't ask for a picture if I did recognize her.

Yeah. But you wouldn't. Would you ask for a picture with like Taylor if you saw her? Well, that's like, I can't answer that question. It's just like a simple yes or no. It's like, use someone else. Kim? Yeah.

Like I would ask Kim for a picture. Okay. Like I'm hell bent on becoming friends with Taylor Swift, which is why like I don't think I could really ask her for a picture. Okay. Also Maggie Sajak, the daughter, will continue being a social media correspondent for the show. Okay. So that's like a good, you know, you have to start somewhere.

Yeah. And you have to work your way up. Yeah, you do. Just because you're Pat's daughter doesn't mean. Yeah, but you know what? You get to turn the letters. Nepotism is. Unless it's bring your daughter to work day.

Is so, Hollywood is so rife with nepotism. Like, it's even taking on Wheel of Fortune. Yeah, for sure. I mean, she is a social media correspondent. No, and I just want to say, like, I'm here for it. That's nepotism, like it's even taking on Wheel of Fortune. Yeah, for sure. I mean, she is a social media correspondent. No, and I just want to say, like, I'm here for it. That's nepotism that doesn't bother me. As long as she's good at the job. Yeah.

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requested to terminate the court's ability to grant support to Masterson with whom she shares a nine-year-old daughter. She requested that she be granted full legal and physical custody of the daughter while Masterson be given visitation rights. She also asked that their assets be divided up by the court as separate property with no indication in the papers that the exes had a prenup in place. She cited irreconcilable differences as the reason for their split. Well, that's putting it mildly.

I just wonder why you would, like, stick with your man during the trial, if only just to get divorced. Well, maybe it's like, okay, you're spending the next 30 years to life in prison. Like there's no more marriage here. You know, what if I want to like move on with my life, get remarried? Like I'll still come and visit you. Who knows? I have no idea what's actually going on.

But like if your man's going to be behind bars forever. Well, yeah, that begs the question. Zach's behind bars well yeah that's the question zach's behind bars for 30 years and let's say like let's take the crime out of it because of course like if somebody did some if zach did something abhorrent like you would leave him because of that right but let's take the crime out of it like zach is going to prison for 30 years 30 to life i thought let's say 30 okay 30 so in 30 years and but also these people are older than us right right they're like 40 right so what

are you doing but i'm talking about at this current moment i really couldn't say i really couldn't say either i i like to stand by your man i would like to think like ben would want me to move on you know like just to make the decision easier for me yeah yeah or or i'd be like listen i will come visit you i will like write to you bring you care packages fill up your commissary like i will be there for you we could stay married yeah but like a girl's gotta eat like no no like you will never know like what i'm doing on the outside will never affect how i'm treating you on the inside yeah but. But I need to be able to have a life. Like I need to go out on dates and like maybe see someone. And you can't go on dates when like you're legally married to someone.

Because that's like a lot of baggage for the person that you're dating. No, but like I would stay legally married. Oh. And be like, listen, this could work out. We can only be together for 30 years. That's what I, what's bad? Yeah. That's longer than most marriages.

Right. So I'm feeling like maybe it's to do with that like she's really they're never going to be able to be married again right hence divorce i just also i don't understand like he was really he was accused of such heinous crimes like to stand by your man like that like is she obviously like believed that he did not do such things right so she thinks he's an innocent man in prison and she's going to divorce him like it's just not adding up one plus one is equaling sock yeah also what doesn't what confuses me she's requesting full legal and physical custody of their daughter what no the daughter's gonna live in the prison like duh duh right i'm so not a lawyer no but this seems It just definitely seems like superfluous language

Right Yeah Yeah For sure Tough stuff Do you know Bijou Phillips? I don't I mean I only know her now

They both have fun names to say I love saying Danny Masterson Do you? Yeah Say it like that Danny Masterson It's kind of nice. I didn't know her before.

I know her now as like the Looney Tunes stood by Danny Masterson. But I don't know if she was like a star before. She might have been. Yeah, she's here on like a step and repeat in front of a Netflix like step and repeat. Let me see. I don't even know what she looks like really. Okay, is it just me or do they look like brother and sister? Like they literally look like brother and sister. They actually do. No, no. they look like brother and sister like they literally actually do no no they look like brother and sister no they seriously do maybe that's like kind of another

element of what we can't understand they look exactly alike exactly except for hair facial hair but like if you swapped it if you look past like his beard they're twins i wouldn't be surprised if they seriously were from the same womb. Javia the more you look. No I know. The more it is. And like they say that people who are married start to like look alike but only to people who know them. Right. Right. You have to like know them for a long time and then you

see them. And maybe it's just because they're smiling the exact same way in this photo. No they have the same eyes. They're related. They're literally twins. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh. exact same way in this photo no they have the same eyes they're related they're literally twins bye next story yeah our fifth and final our fifth because there's a new doc you series out on apple tv plus called the supermodels okay have you heard about this no following cindy crawford naomi campbell linda evangel, and Christy Turlington, and they reflect on how they came to dominate the fashion industry. So a lot of headlines coming out about some of the tidbits that they're sharing.

Oh, I saw one today. Cindy Crawford said something about Oprah. Yeah, she called out Oprah for treating her like chattel by demanding she show off her body on camera at age 20 to prove that she was worthy of fame. Ooh. But there's a lot of different headlines from the show that are coming forward about, I mean, these girls came of age very young, 90s, crazy.

So is it a reality show or a documentary? Documentary. Got it. Where I think everyone's sitting down and telling their story. I don't know what the thesis is of the show, but it's definitely fascinating. Yeah, no, actually, I like that idea.

It kind of reminds me of that iconic E! show with Olivia Colbo. Mod Squad., actually, I like that idea. It kind of reminds me of that iconic E! show with Olivia Colpo. Mod Squad. Mod Squad, yeah. And similar, but different. But different. Yeah. But bring it back.

What are the other headlines that are coming out about it? I had seen the Oprah one. There was Linda Evangelista shared how she was made to take pictures at the age of 16 like inappropriate photos and just some of the pressure that they face as young women in the industry evangelist and the one who coined the term won't get out of bed for less than ten thousand dollars yes she's my queen because i relate to that like i'm not getting out of bed unless i'm being paid i'm sure she's addressing that comment i do want to watch this series i know look at apple like making waves they're like

kind of the most irrelevant streamer in my opinion. They're behind Discovery Plus. Thank God. Someone at Apple should seriously give their first born child to Jason Sudeikis. That's the only reason people buy Apple TV. And then once they get it, they're like, oh, there are other shows that are decent, shrinking.

There's some other shit people like. They came for Ted Lasso and maybe they stayed. And then the Billie Eilish documentary, which was the only other thing they ever did and that was a few years ago um so good for them for like actually doing something people give a shit about I think that's really cool and it's never too late yeah Linda Evangelista recall being pressured and taking nude photos when she was just 16 years old as she's really disgusting which almost made her give up on modeling these women like I feel like every fashion week somebody like brings them out they're kind of like a squad I wonder if there's like beef

between any of them maybe they'll talk about that in the documentary yeah I'm sure back in the day there was but now they're all like mature because Naomi Campbell has said like she was like the worst when she was younger but imagine being like um one of the most beautiful women in the world for all of these people like so successful how do you not become a monster? A monster, yeah. No, I'm like one of the ugliest people in the world and I am a monster. So I totally get it. Me and Naomi Campbell are like definitely on the same page.

Yeah, especially with everything they're going through, it just makes you put your walls up. Yeah, even though had they just, you know, all leaned on each other, it would have been easier most likely. Yeah, but no, it's like, you kind of go into survival mode yeah that does sound good that does sound good yeah so those are the fast five stories and I feel good about them I think

you were kind of hard on them you do but I also can recognize like when you choose the stories you're hardest on yourself like I feel that way all the time you know when I choose them yeah I just feel like there's a couple of days a year where it's so exciting where it's like I cannot wait to get into the fast five and I just haven't had one of those days well there was a story that we actually didn't recount in the fast five big news that happened yesterday what that Shannon got engaged oh my god I meant to bring it up at the beginning of the show thank you so much everyone knows our favorite girl a year Shannon Ford host of the probably a podcast show on TNN um got engaged yesterday she called us we were like laying in bed watching Joanna and she's like look what I'm wearing and she just uh put her finger up and like it took me a second

to register I'm like what is she showing me like cool you got new jewelry like I was literally so confused and then I put two and two together and it it's so exciting. Excuse me. So exciting. We're so happy for Shannon. So everybody go wish Shannon a big mazel tov from the Toast community. What a good day. What a good day. And she's posting so much content. Like, we need more.

Premium. Even people are, like, shy about, like, their big, like, life moments. Like, share. Share. She's sharing. I'm really so happy for them. They're such a cute couple. Yeah.

And it's very appropriate Because yesterday I was telling the story On the toast How Ben got into bed And was like Did you hear what happened To Shannon

I'm like what What happened to Shannon He's like The DUI I'm like are you talking About Shannon Medor He was like yeah He was like using Shannon

I thought he was talking About Shannon Ford Now last night I got into bed And I said Did you hear what happened To Shannon Had he heard

No I told him before the post went up. Sneak peek exclusive. And he was really happy. We're all really happy for her. So Shannon, just kind of big things happening with all of our TNN hosts. Lauren Elizabeth gave birth. You gave birth.

Shannon's engaged. I am, you know, skinny. That's something. That is. Making headline news every day about how she can show her arms now okay so like i did i do a q a on my instagram like i try and do it like every couple of weeks like keep up with peeps and all the questions are about ozempic and i don't want to answer every single one about ozempic but like some of them are good questions and yesterday

literally page six like ran the uh question somebody asked about like how i'm showing my arms now and i used to only wear like short sleeves or long sleeves i would never show my Page six, like, ran the question somebody asked about, like, how I'm showing my arms now. And I used to only wear, like, short sleeves or long sleeves. I would never show my arms before in, like, a tank top. And had I known, like, it would be written up, maybe I would have, like, worded it differently. But it was just, like, a stupid Q&A. Like, who's fucking reading these things?

I have to be much more careful. Now you know how celebs feel. No, it's just, like, famous price. And it's worth every penny. Keep writing it up girlfriends everybody want an exclusive interview let me know um okay should we dive into dear toasters our weekly advice segment we shall so for those who don't know wednesdays are dear toast dear toasters day that's hard to say say it five times dear toasters day dear toasters day dear toasters day dear toasters

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a year now and we are in talks of moving in together soon. Everything is great except for one huge problem. Our animals do not get along whatsoever. I have a cat. He has two dogs. The one time we tried to get them together to meet, it ended horribly. His dog attacked my cat so bad to the point where I had to take an emergency vet trip at two in the morning. Needless to say, the idea of them living together seems pretty far-fetched. Getting rid of either pets is pretty much out of the question as we both have had them for multiple years. I genuinely don't know what to do. The idea of obedience training has been brought up,

but as an eight-year-old dog, I'm not sure it would go over well. Our relationship is truly amazing and we want to take the next step, but this is turning into a huge issue. Okay, I'm not a dog behavioral specialist, so I don't know what can be done, but I just think like you have to get rid of the cat.

It's so simple. Cats are gross. Well, that's always an option to rehome one of these animals she said it's actually really not an option like would you ever know to you if it wasn't working out in my home like really I mean I I would need to have a really really good reason but it's not out of the question well yeah you're just lucky that you have me yeah but do you have a loved one but that's the last resort yeah that will be if nothing else works but you said they met one but that's the last resort yeah that will be if nothing else works but you said they met one time and it didn't go well now i don't want to put your

cat continue to put your cat in harm's way but like maybe it takes some time time and practice and then being around each other and maybe a dog behavioral specialist which i am not one so this is not based in anything but like maybe it's like they spend five minutes together then the next day it's 10 like maybe they have to to, you know, work together. You definitely have to try a few different things before you make any big decisions. Because like you said, you only did it once and it ended poorly. So like maybe to try. Was the environment not calm?

Like I know, you know, trainers have all of these different tactics. I don't know exactly what they are. But I imagine that there are slow ways to bring them together you definitely need to consult some sort of trainer I don't think you can do this on your own and you need to try like these are two really important three because he has two dogs three really important animals in your life like you have to try but you shouldn't stall your life like your progress with your boyfriend moving in together like being happy you need to get to work yeah also if those things don't work or don't exist then think about rehoming the cat to

a loved one where you can visit the cat all of the time. The thing is, like, you got to make it work because if someone's going to go, it's going to be the cat because he has two dogs who get along together. So what are we going to rehome? Two dogs or one cat? Yeah. Cats are easier to pass off onto a loved one. So your cat's on the chopping block.

So it's like up to you. I feel like Jackie from Dog Friendly Living might have some tips she has a really great instagram account if you want to check it out at dog friendly living you might have you know solutions for this very problem like do cats and dogs historically not get along they fight like cats and dogs right yikes yikes your cat is on the chopping block just letting you know so like it's up to you because your man is sitting pretty being like, I'm not going to get rid of two dogs. No.

So let's let her figure it out. And I think that there could be solutions. I'm not hopeless, but I'm also a realist. Yeah, it's not looking good. But I think there's ways. Yeah, ways. All right, ready for our next one? I love this question because I literally,

like I experienced this firsthand. Hi Queens, love the show and I could use some advice. We have a friend in our friend group that always insists on taking pictures on her phone when we go out. She then severely edits the photos with Facetune and other apps before sharing them back to us. All the fun memories we have captured in various pictures

are now completely altered with skinny filters, glam makeup, et cetera. I'm all for her doing whatever she wants to make herself feel comfortable and confident on her personal social medias, but I don't want my social media and personal memories to be flawed and disingenuous. I've even had other friends outside of our group

say that she looks absolutely nothing like the pictures and that it's misleading. I want to say something, but I also don't want to be an asshole. Please send help. What's your experience? Oh my God, I used to be friends with this girl who literally would not take a singular photo on anyone's phone, but hers.

And like, she would literally like be so strict about whoever was taking the photo. Stand up, get on your knees, move to the left, move to the right. We'd take a million photos, group photos. And then like later that week we would get the one approved photo that we could all post. It's like, girl, give me the photos. Like, I don't like this one. Yeah. Like it's, it's just, it's really annoying.

Um, you have to stop taking pictures with that girl that's the end of or stop being friends with her start taking pictures on your own phone yeah and if she doesn't want unfiltered pictures of herself out there which she's entitled yep then she shouldn't be in the picture yeah period just start like what does she she's the boss of you yeah take a picture on your phone take a picture on your phone and she gets out like she'll be out of the photos be like literally just call it's like it's these people who do this they think they're so subtle like no one will notice if i'm always using my phone and i send them this one i'm sure nobody's ever called her out but next time there's a group photo how many times has the person taking a group photo

whether it's a stranger or person in the group been given more than one phone a million times i want your phone and if she says something be like get out of the picture get out of the picture you don't have to be in the picture quote i want this on my phone people say that all the time for their own reasons and then she'll be like i'll send it to you no i want this on my phone yeah i want this on my phone you need to be a little bit more aggressive like she's conquered your group successfully because you've all laid down your arms you laid you rolled over and you're where is the resistance put up resistance it really shouldn't be that hard but just know that you can and the solution because i don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable i don't want someone having pictures of themselves on the

internet that they aren't happy with so she just needs to leave the photos aside or maybe put her on the end where we can crop her yeah yeah but you need to put up resistance yeah like come on toughen up yeah I want this on my phone luckily for me the situation remedied itself where like I just happened to stop being friends with that person like nothing happened was that person an influencer no yes um i'm just saying influencers have their own reasons yeah no this is their business i was like new to like the influencer world so i was like oh i guess this is what we're doing but then i was like just like with my friends and i was like i had no pictures i'm like this is fucking annoying yeah or you could if you really like want to get crafty, you could get like a cool new camera

and be like, we have to take this on the camera. Oh, now she's burdening, she has the expense on her back? Yeah, now if you- Now I have to spend money because this girl's a mental patient? If you won't go toe to toe with her. Right, no, you have to be brave.

You have to be brave. I want to see you be brave. I want to see you. I just want to see you. I want to see you. I just want to see you. I want to see you. I want to see you be brave. Done. All right.

Third and final. Dear Trudy, Trudy and Jax. Want to start off by saying. Trudy, Trudy. As a religious YouTube watcher, Dear Toasters is my favorite thing ever. As in she watches YouTube religiously or she's a religious woman? I'm going to go with a religious woman. She says, I love Dear Toasters.

It is my favorite thing ever. It's what gets me through my hump days. I need your advice. My boyfriend and I have been dating for basically a year at this point, and I haven't had a good night's sleep since. We don't live together, but he really likes sleeping together, so we go to bed together basically every night. I wouldn't mind, except he's not religious oh yeah definitely not religious

um i wouldn't mind except he's the loudest most disruptive sleeper i've ever experienced he snores every night and when he isn't snoring he's a mouth breather which is just as bad he also wakes up in the middle of the night will go on his phone with the brightness full-on bright i don't want to hurt his feelings but i want to know how i can politely say i want to start sleeping apart more so that i can actually get some rest during the week. Also, I'm low key worried that his mouth breathing breathing is affecting his facial structure. Thanks for the help. Love you. A sleepless toaster. Well, this is a question for Turdy because I don't sleep with a snoring man. I do. And a mouth breather and a wheezer and everything

else that Ben does. So I feel like there's a lot of things going on here. Like, yes, if you started sleeping apart, it would fix your problem. But like temporarily in the future, this is the person you're hopefully going to be sleeping with every night for the rest of your life. So I think that's just putting the ball down the field. And I don't think that actually is helpful. I agree. It's not about saying I want nights to myself. It's about fixing these things. Him being a disruptive sleeper on his phone. That's something you very clearly just say, like, listen, you're on your phone with full brightness in the middle of the night. It wakes me up. Either put your brightness down, go into the other room.

That's not negotiable. Like that's easy to fix. That's easy. You just say how you feel and you're right in how you're feeling. The snoring. Now I have been there. Ben is both a snorer and a mouth breather. And last night is a perfect example.

He has a runny nose. Oh my God. He was so loud. Like, like I wanted to kill him. Um, so here's what we do for the snoring. Ben uses breathe right strips. They actually really work. Then he started to complain because. Um, so here's what we do for the snoring. Ben uses breathe right strips.

They actually really work. Then he started to complain because he used them so much. He started to get like a little irritation on his nose. I'm like, you're fine to put aquaphor on it. Breathe right strips really work for the story, but also what really helps is, and I was not a believer in like white noise or like background noise. I was not a believer, but we have a humidifier that's so loud. It drowns everything out. Like the city noise. When we're here, we don't have our humidifier. Ben always puts on his white noise machine. It's not even white noise. Actually, I don't like white noise. It's the white noise app and it's the air conditioning one. Like I like a really loud air conditioner. Like I'm sleeping in a vent or something. You need a hatch. Honestly, it drowns everything

out. Like there are ways to either fix the snoring or fix your ability to hear it. Do both. Yeah. Now when we go to sleep, we have so many sound things on like the big humidifier bends thing. And honestly, I really like it. That's great. Yeah. I've been using my hatch, which I love. And I like to listen to the light rain. Yeah. They also have brown noise because sometimes white noise can be like a lot. Brown noise is nice so incorporate all these things into your life there are ways this is not like a deal breaker it's not the end of the world you're not gonna have to sleep in separate beds like millions of women sleep with men who are loud and we're finding ways around it also maybe if you get a noise machine your boyfriend will sleep deeper and he won't wake up in the

middle of the night and be on his phone that too and there are also things you can do in your everyday life. Like snoring. You're not really supposed to snore. And Ben has lost a lot of weight. He's on Ozambic too. And he snores significant, I would say 70% less. So take a shot and shoot up your boyfriend. No, don't shoot up your boyfriend on Ozambic.

But I'm saying like certain lifestyle changes can help snoring. Yes. Like Ben used to exclusively sleep on his back and that's when you snore. Now he sleeps on his side, sometimes his stomach because he's just like smaller. So there are things you could do. I think those are a lot of really helpful tools. Yeah.

I feel like I helped the third girl the most. Yeah. Like the pet girl, we were basically like figured out. No. And the girl with the photos, we actually gave good advice too. Yeah. I think we helped everyone. Yeah. I think we all got great advice. I think we helped everyone. Yeah.

I think we all got great advice. I think we're all really helpful. I think we're all pretty smartless. I think we're all smartless. So we're going to wrap this up. Tomorrow's episode. Stay tuned. Who knows what will be up tomorrow.

Oh actually I think I said Taylor Strecker. I have to text her and see if she's available. And then Friday Jackson and Claude back together but remote version which is fabulous. Video and audio.

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