The Toast - Stassi and Jax: Friday, April 19th, 2024

Episode Date: April 19, 2024

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Good morning, millennials! Oh my god, I've always wanted to do that. I didn't get to do that last time. I didn't even warn you that I was going to do it. I didn't know you were going to do it because usually on a guest co-host remote setup, I'll go it on my own. But why didn't you get to do it when you posted with Claudia?

I don't know. I don't think I was invited to do it. Did she do it? Did you guys just like, don't you just edit that in sometimes? Yes, when we are remote because it's hard to sync it up at the exact same time. But you were in New York when you came on the toast. I don't think she did it. You were robbed.

I don't think she did it. I was fully robbed. But I wish I actually would have prepared a little bit more. The moment just came so quickly just now. Well, that's because I sprung it on you because I didn't know you were going to join me. I think you should get your own. Oh, okay. Good morning, millennials.

That's nice. Welcome to the, well, now it's the toast. It was the morning toast, but I'm here. I'm here. I'm so happy to be here. I'm the biggest fan.

Oh, I'm so happy that you are here. Ending off guest co-host week, Jackson Stoss back again. We've podcasted together. Not going to lie. Jackson Stass. Oh my God. It does.

Oh my God. Sorry. Sore subject. Triggered. Triggered. Yeah. Wow. Oh my God.

I need to mind myself and like really feel like think before I speak. But we are here together podcasting. We've never done the toast together, but I've done your show and twice. Yeah. So now the roles have reversed and I get to ask you all the questions that I want to ask you. And I've done something so crazy that I've been dying to do all week. And that is I've canceled the fast five and I'm just thrilled to bits because not only do I want to talk to Stassi for an hour and a half just about like Jackson Stoss tings and we have so many tings in common wait do you know how much I want I almost use the word tings in real life and I'm like I I need to not I sound like a carbon copy of you guys and it's like it's creepy like it's it's creepy but

I want to use tings all the time it's your language the words that you guys use it it's it's in my it's in my soul now well that's part of the fun and I also I don't people don't like how much I use the word tings I love the problem is I don't like the word thing like it's such a nothing throwaway word and it's like if I'm using the word thing. Like it's such a nothing throwaway word. And it's like if I'm using the word thing, I should be coming up with a better word. But I'm lazy. So it's ting. No, it just there's a flair to it.

There's like a like a celebratory vibe to it. Yeah, it makes things fun. Yeah, it does. But I know people are kind of sick of it. I want to say, you know know like everything else i will cycle through it but i understand that it's taking a long time i need a better synonym for thing object well it's different every time that's i think it just has to be it'll come organically to you yeah it always does it always does with you guys like you know you just got to let it

evolve on its own you can't you can't force anything. Yes. It's so true, which is why I'm not forcing the fast five today. OK, like the stories all week have been taken. It's Friday. And by the time this episode comes out, the only thing people will be talking about is Taylor Swift's new album. No, I know the way that I've felt like this over the last month.

I don't know how you guys have been able to do your show every day. Every time I go online, check the things, the pop culture things, there is quite literally nothing I'm interested in. Like nothing. The celebs out there, boring. They're not getting into anything. What's going on? I know.

You know who's really holding it down? I'm trying to think of who could be. Not a person. A category of celebrities. No. Reality stars. Like who? Love is Blind held it down for a while.

Okay. That was like a month ago. Vanderpump Rules. Yeah, I know. Like, Lala and her belly going around town is doing it for me. For sure.

Coupled with watching the season, it's giving me something. For sure. I guess it just, that doesn't count for me since she's my friend. So, yeah. So, I can't indulge in that part of it. It just feels, it's, yeah, it's so so I can't indulge in in that part of it.

It just feel it's it's yeah. No, I wish I can't. Yeah, you're you're missing out. It's fun over here. But other things. No, I definitely feel like there's been a lull in just like content. And I don't know, maybe people are resting up for a big summer splash. I truly was like, is it the eclipse?

Is it Mercury in retrograde? I think that shit's over like April 25th or something like that. Then we can just like we could come out of our caves, all of us. Kardashians, I'm going to need you to rise, rise up. I need something from you. Kylie, like I'd really like to see some looks. Can you go to a fashion week? Can you do?

I just want I want to see some clothes. It's so true. I hadn't noticed it. Now I'm realizing it's not me. No, it's them. And you know what? And I feel like today, I feel like being the type of person

who blames things on Mercury in retrograde. Maybe Mercury's just been in retrograde. It has. It has, though. Like, for real. I mean, even though it's in retrograde. It has. It has, though. Like, for real. I mean, even though it's in retrograde quite literally all the time. Like, I feel like it's 17 times a year. Yeah.

Retrograde. It just makes me feel better to blame it on that. You know, I mean, when you think about it, the way that the planets and then, you know, the tide and all that stuff, the way it works. I mean, right? Right. It's got to mean something. It has to mean something.

It gives me something to believe in. I just love, I need something to blame. How much stock do you put into things like Mercury in retrograde or horoscopes? Like on a scale of one to ten, ten being like James Kennedy's girlfriend. Where are you at? Do even watch vanderpump rules do you even like am i making references to someone who is like no idea what i'm doing yeah i know who she is and obviously she's like an astronomer astrologer no people keep tagging me in tiktoks be about that because i'm okay i'm you know i like things like that um right i don't

i don't watch it so i don't know how into it. That's her career. That's what she does. Yeah. She does like birth charts for people. Like reading them. I love that. I'm like, I'm really into birth charts.

I'm not into horoscopes. I'm into birth charts. Like there's, to me, there's a difference. Like horoscope is almost like telling your future. You know, this is going to happen to you soon. But your birth chart is it just when you were born, all of the way that everything was aligned, how that influences your personality. I like to believe in that. I don't know if I fully believe in it. I just enjoy dipping into it. I feel that taking it with a grain of salt. And I do agree that it's definitely

more enticing. I even said to Claudia, like, I kind of want Allie to give me my birth chart because my issue with horoscopes is the idea that everyone born in the same month has the same personality I know then there's like your moon and sun rising but generally speaking like all cancers are this all Scorpios are that and it's like so we were all like on the hospital room floor with the same personality that's exactly I completely agree with you and that's why I think a birth chart is just so much So we were all like on the hospital room floor with the same personality. Correct. I'm not buying it. That's exactly. I completely agree with you. And that's why I think a birth chart is just so much more interesting.

What my question is, who decided? Who decided that when, you know, your moon was in Scorpio, that that meant that this was going to affect how you deal with things emotionally. Who decided that? No, it's such a good call. It's one of the greater grifts of all time. Grifts. It's a great grift.

Grift. I don't even know what that means, Jackie. Like a scheme. Okay. A hustle, like a fraudulent scheme. You're always teaching me new words to add to my vocabulary you know we aim to teach here and I just learned grift is that where grifter comes from yeah and it's such a great word I didn't I didn't put that together recently Ben Safar accused me of using the word too much because I was describing everyone and everything as a

grifter and a grift but I'm sorry like there's a lot of grifters around who are performing grifts why is that my fault I just like performing grifts right grits yeah and you live in LA so you must you must see a lot of grifting lots of them well I'm so excited that you're here today because one person who is not a grifter is Stassi Schroeder. Oh my God. Wow. Actually though, the intro of my dreams. The one person who is not a grifter. That's called a segue. And that's why they pay me the big bucks. Big bucks. Big podcast segue-er over here. She does not grift.

In fact, she's a lovely, lovely person and podcaster and friend and author and star and influencer and mama and we're going to talk about literally every single thing that i just mentioned but first and foremost i want to talk about your new book because it's the name on everybody's lips you announced yesterday your third book and us stassi fans are so excited wait thank you wait i, I have it here. It's a dummy copy. So it's not actually my book in it. Trade secrets.

You know, it's just so annoying because like I want to be so excited about this. But when I open it, it's not mine. And so it's it's kind of sad. But you can't read us an excerpt. No, you know what? I was I was told that I should. And I'm like, that's just not my vibe. Oh, my God. A reading. I know. I'm not joking, Jackie. Like and I'm like that's just not my vibe oh my god a reading I know I'm not joking Jackie like I'm not joking like I my team was like I love my team was like you should read

an excerpt I'm like um no quite so Carrie Bradshaw I can't like I that's so I would I would turn to stone is it that you can't do it like here one-on-one with me? Here one-on-one with you. Like I do my audio books. Like, so like I'll do the audio book. I just can't with you right now, just take it seriously and not giggle. Like it's just.

That's so fair. But like when you do your like book tour, you'll do readings or still no? No. No one's actually ever even asked me to. Like it's more meet and greets or like I'll do a Q&A and I'll talk about the book. But an excerpt? Like who actually even wants to hear that?

No, like now I really want to hear it. Now I'm dying to know. No. Okay, well, your new book is called You Can't Have It All, and it is your third book. Can you tell us about the book, what's in it? I'm obsessed with the concept of it and, like, your general thesis. Okay, I really appreciate that because this was the most challenging one to write,

which I don't think people would expect because I've been through more challenging times before in my life. But this I don't want to say it's the anti girl boss book because I still I am still ambitious. I still have dreams. I still have things I want to accomplish. I'm not saying, you know, let's just put all of that, throw that in the trash, just whatever. Fuck it. I'm not saying that. But there is an element of anti-girl boss to it because I realized I was like after having kids, especially I'm like I've tied my whole self-worth up in like how much I accomplish, how much I'm excelling in every category of my life. And it got to a point where I realized, oh, my God, like when you have kids, that is actually impossible. And then you're just left feeling like shit about yourself on the reg over and over.

And so I wrote about a chapter about not having it all like us women not being able to have it all in my last book. And it stuck with me with me it sat with me and the more I lived life over the last few years I'm like this is it this is the theme of my life right now learning to just find joy in what I have like the things that I've already been given the things that I've already achieved like sometimes being in the middle is the sweet spot like you don't always have to be number one you don't always have to be the best sometimes you're the happiest when you're mid right also the people who are like the most powerful the wealthiest the most famous like those aren't the happiest people like having a little

bit of everything i think is a better recipe for happiness and i agree with your thesis because it's like as modern women we can do whatever right now and we can work and we can raise children whatever you choose to do but it's like you still have only so many hours in the day yes there still are not more than 24 hours so I think like it's it's like double the amount of work if you do like the traditional things that we still want to do we still want to raise children and be moms and wives. But like we're also running our own businesses. So it's like finding a way to have all of that, but not having 100% of each of it. Yeah.

Except, yeah. Yes, because you can't possibly like work at 100% in each category of your life at the same time. You can have it all, just like not at the same time. But I do want to be very clear that this isn't like a self-help book. This isn't me. Just I'm not some self-help guru. Like this is the only way I've known how to write or share a message is to just tell my stories.

And I've noticed throughout my life, like my stories have like a theme and I write about everything that's been going on over the last couple years and I go back to parts of my life over the last 10 or 15 years but the theme of all those stories is that you can't you can't have it all like yeah that's what it is so I just don't want anyone to think that they're picking up the book in the self-help section. That's not it. This is it's deeply personal. And it was really hard. It's really hard to write.

One woman's experience. Yes. It's my experience. But again, and I also think the very act of writing a book is like kind of girl bossy. So it was a mind. Of course. We're sitting here on a woman owned business speaking to a female entrepreneur being like girl bosses. Like, look in the mirror.

No, I know. So I struggled with this so much. There were so many times that I'm like, what am I doing? What am I doing? I was about to give birth and then I picked it up again right after I gave birth. I'm like, this is the most girl bossy fucking shit ever. What I'm writing is contradicting the very thing that I'm doing right now. I think that's what made it so hard.

I feel like I wrote this book for me because I'm trying to teach myself this. Yeah, how to like sort out your feelings on this. And I feel the exact same way as you, like as a mom, as a business owner, like someone who's very hardworking, but also like being a mom is the most important thing in my life. I say no to a lot of things. I'm probably like, you know, missing out on a lot. And I feel like sometimes I feel like I am, you know, I'm not the most social all the

time. Yes. Same. Yeah. And that's not having it all. And that's but that that works for me. And that's what that's how I want it. But life also comes in in waves and there are different seasons for things.

And you kind of just like have to remind yourself that everything is temporary all the time so you're never even the people who have who seem like they have it all something in their life is suffering a little bit yeah at the cost of that yeah so very true well I am so excited to read this book in particular but all of your books are jolly good fun. Just speak to universal themes. So you said that this one was the hardest for you to write. Because of that, because of what I said specifically, that it was like a contradiction.

Yeah, but like you're getting to the root of it. Yeah. Which I appreciate you going to clear that up for all of us. And I was actually podcasting with Lauren Elizabeth for yesterday's episode. And so many of our conversations were the same where it's like, we call ourselves like homesteading trad wives, but we're not trad wives. Cause we're working.

You're working. No, you're doing the most. You're like, we're stay at home working moms. Yes. You were, which is very hard because I always say that stay at home moms, like they have the hardest, they have the hardest job, career and life out of anyone.

Any day of work I have ever had, there is nothing harder than just a day that I have been at home alone with my two children all day long. That's the hardest day. So then at least like stay at home moms that also work from home. We get a half break sees, but not because your brain is still thinking about it. You can still hear them. You can still hear something. Yeah. But you're a little you're a little dialed out.

And you have your thing going and you're having adult conversations and you're feeling like your own person. Correct. Yes. Like right now, this is a treat right now. Like I'm I'm enjoying this. Like Bo is with Messer. And so this is a treat right now. Like I'm I'm enjoying this like Bo is with Messer. And so this is a treat like I it's like we're at happy hour or something. No, I always say that. I say like weirdly recording the toast is the calmest hour of my day. Yeah. And I get to have adult conversations. I get to laugh. I get to like flex my humor,

my funny bone. And now doing guest co-hosts, I finally get to catch up with my friends. Yes. It is happy hour. It is happy hour. I have a soda today. I have a water, you know, whatever. Oh, you're a real mama with your thermos. Simple modern.

You know, everyone with that other one. I don't understand. I have both. Stanley Cup. No, the Stanley Cup is fugly. And when it like falls over water leaks out nothing ever leaks out of this that's a good point are your kids obsessed with your cup uh no actually oh whenever I used to have mine around like Harry always

got into it because it's like a big cup with a straw looks like something for him honestly I guess you're right but no but Hartford always has her water wait I have a question for you don't you notice that every kid like they have to have their thermos water with them at all times like wherever we whenever we go anywhere it's like yes that wasn't the case when we were growing up I don't ever remember carrying a water with me or my parents carrying a water with me like when did this happen I don't know and carrying a water with me or my parents carrying a water with me. Like, when did this happen? I don't know. And I had to learn it sort of the hard way.

I didn't know that all kids were doing that. And I feel like for so long, I would send Harry, like, with his bottle, like, his Dr. Brown's bottle. And I would put, like, water in it or, like, juice or something. And I would, or sometimes they have, like, this silicone handle that you can slide up. But he was, like, and he really slowly graduated from like first was his Dr. Brown's like milk bottle carrying water. And then I switched the cap to be more of like a sports cap.

But still like the boys walking around with a bottle. And then I saw some of his friends have like these thermoses, these insulated thermoses that are bespoke. They've got their names on them. Like Harry knows which water bottle belongs to who and i'm like oh i absolutely have to set my game up and i went on a fact like i ordered a bunch of different water bottles and i found some of them are better than others i don't like those like thermos ones a lot of them leak the ones i got most recently that i i'm loving are the bento water bottles

i don't think it's a little those you know the bent go lunch boxes like it's like bento boxes but can they be are they decorated yes some okay because like if it's not decorated with the princesses or the elsa or something i don't know if it has a disney collab we're kind of just like we go for the blue one and like rocket ships. No. Yeah. Well, it wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. But damn, they didn't get the Disney club. I'm so sorry. But like, I really I think about this often.

It's like Hartford goes to school with our thermos and every kid has their thermos. And like that was not the case. We just were parched as kids. Yeah. No. You went to a water fountain. Really? It's so true.

And it's so crazy to think about and I I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one to like slowly come to that conclusion but it's like your kids better be strapped like with their camel pack when we go somewhere like oh I don't bring a water for me like it's just for him if I'm thirsty like I'll have to ask him for a sip no for sure there's so many things that I've learned that i'm like when did all of the parents my age collectively get together and learn this information like for valentine's day this past year you know i sent her to school i went on amazon and bought you know like princess valentine's and we did like stamps together like and signed her name she got back from school every single valentine was homemade i'm like who got

together how do all the parents know to do this how did every i didn't know that we make homemade valentines now what's wrong with amazoning some princess ones i i felt like the shittiest mom ever what does a homemade valentine and like what's the difference between, what are we making? Okay, well you get construction paper, maybe like glitter, markers, like thing, glue, whatever. Like it's homemade as if the kid's eight years old. Like they were homemade, like they did crafts at home. But like, okay, maybe I'm just like being dumb. Like maybe we didn't do Valentines at my school. Like what is a Valentine?

Are you joking? No, no, no. Like I don't know if i know this deep down somewhere but is it just like a a craft well no well back in the day when we were in school they were like are you for real right now you could get them at cvs right aid you know duane reed in like a box of chocolates but it's not chocolates like they're little cards like little cards and you say to so and so-so from so-and-so. And they had a theme to them, whatever kind of cards you brought.

And then you brought them to school and you handed them out to your class. You didn't just pick one person. It was like you bring them for the class. Oh, that's so sweet. I don't think we did that. Real? Yeah, maybe because I went to Jewish school and Stine is technically not okay a holiday that we would celebrate so i've missed out on this well you're in for a real treat yeah yeah very exciting so

you got yours on amazon but everybody homemade them everyone everyone and i was like what who even my sister-in-law mailed me one that she had made her daughters a year younger i'm like who who taught you this how did you know where did the time come from where did the time yes i know i'm overwhelmed yeah there's so much there's so many things like that yes there are that's what i mean but that also goes along with my book because i have chapters about this where I'm just like holy shit I'm failing as a mom I I thought I was doing well I thought I was doing well and there are all these things that I don't know and what's so funny is you're

actually so crafty I feel like you're always doing crafts I do love a craft I do for myself I guess no I feel like I've seen like from what I've seen like you go above and beyond You're always doing like fun like holiday stuff Yeah but that's like for Me there's there's a difference Between like then doing With a toddler You know when like Hartford really doesn't care She's only three she doesn't care

Yeah you know about like gluing some glitter On something right now like she Kind of doesn't understand she'll she'll be excited to do it One time and then I end up having to do the remaining 10. So like, I guess crafts just aren't fun with my kids yet. Crafts are fun for me. Okay, but it's waiting for you then. At least you're a mama who crafts.

You probably have a hot glue gun. Yes, I do actually, yes. You're halfway there. I have two. One for you, one for Hartford. Different sizes. Well, not you, one for Hartford. Different sizes. Well, not to only talk about Hartford, but I do kind of want to talk about the name on everybody's lips,

and that's Messer. Okay. Because he is just too much. I saw a picture of him today looking like a big man. No, truly. And when I say he is the way that you were talking about, Charlie, he is the kindest soul. Where the fuck did he come from?

It's like Hartford, she came out judging. She like, like her whole face was just judgy always. This little boy is so sweet and so kind. It's the, he, I feel like he's going to change the world. Like it's like giving mother Teresa vibes. Yeah. Well, he is so, so darn cute. How is your postpartum journey going?

I feel like it's so low key that you're seven and a half months postpartum. Yeah. Yes. Who's counting? I like have tabs on everyone who's like giving birth around me, you know? So I was just talking to Lauren Elizabeth. I know she's a few weeks, like her daughter's a few weeks younger than Charlie. And so is Messer.

I think that in the beginning it was harder. Like in the beginning it was harder than anything I had experienced. But now that I've like gotten out of it, like out of like the first three to four months, now I feel like, oh, the first time Hartford was hard. Like that whole experience and the moodinessiness The like baby blues that came with that Was so much harder I felt Pretty good like I But that's like now I feel like you forget

What you go through Like yeah truly you Forget what it's survival mode Like if someone were to hear me like if Bo were to hear me right now talking about this being like no He'd be like no you haven't gone through an easy time Like you've literally not what are you talking about I'm like I think I'm I'm having a stroke I'm I'm suffering from something I I forgot because I feel good today

yeah no I think that is what we all do I think like the body does that intentionally you know so you want to have another and so that you just like keep it moving. But did you find the transition from one to two was harder than zero to one? Oh, fuck. Yeah. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I think because we were in covid for Hartford. So like we were at home no matter what.

So all I could do was be a mom anyway, be a mom at home. I didn't have any other responsibilities. I didn't have anything else to do but just be a mother anyway be a mom at home I didn't have any other responsibilities I didn't have anything else to do but just be a mother to this baby with Messer and Hartford I'm still doing all of the things and the world is opened up so there's more responsibilities and I also have a toddler and even though I have help and Hartford goes to school it's still to me was is so much harder because I feel like me and Bo it's now one is on one and we don't get by the time we put them both down to bed we're too tired to like hang out anymore and it's really sad because like that used to be our time to have

quality time and do things together watch a movie and now I'm like I just need to go and like watch watch a show by myself and zone out yeah no I feel like you go to sleep early like you should or you stay up it depends on the day it's like that's that that's the struggle that's the struggle that's every mother everywhere knows it's like after you put your kids down do you want to sleep more or do you want to enjoy your alone time more what's more important tonight and it shifts every day I just want to say so I always I stay up way too late and every morning I kick myself I'm like go to bed earlier you dumb bitch and last night I was so tired I could be I was like a walking zombie by the time the kids went down so I'm like I'm going to sleep it was like 8 30 8 45 and I

went to bed you went to bed at 8 45 yeah I was so so tired I could I like Olivia's facetiming me and I was like gotta go and I just like like seriously like a zombie. It's just been like a really crazy busy week and I was so tired. And I slept like half asleep for two hours and then I woke up at 10.30 and I was pretty much up till 2.30. So I will never be going to sleep early again and I'll keep it at 11 o'clock

and just get a straight shot. I don't think I've ever gone to sleep at 8.30. That's champion behavior right there. No, it was a mistake I was regretful so I just if anybody's feeling bad about staying up late like don't feel bad at least you're using your time and doing something I wish I watched a show or something well you get alone time yeah alone time is the best do you feel like it was harder or easier going to two easy zero to one was way harder for me than one to two. Like I just felt,

I felt so much more excited, not in that I wasn't excited, but I felt excitement, new excitement. It's like, you don't want to say it. I felt new excitement because I was prepared and I like knew what to expect. And I just, I felt like an old pro and I was like, I could like show off my new skills. And, and especially as like pertain to breastfeeding or just all of these things that the first time it was just like trial by fire and then I was able to enjoy some of the things more because I was felt more prepared and it's funny how when you have your second it's like a positive and a negative but because you have one already like it forces you you can't just like go into the bubble and stay in the bubble because like you got to go you gotta go to the park you

gotta go like you have to like get up and get adam and for me that was helpful because it i felt like i was starting to get back to just life way faster than like i think with harry for the first three months it felt like I couldn't go anywhere like I was like everything felt so overwhelming yeah no I see what you're saying I also think that like I don't know people might not like this I don't like the newborn phase I'm that's not my favorite and so I think that's what also made it hard to have Messer because I knew I didn't I wasn't going to like that part. So it's like I got to get over this hump of just the newborn phase where like he does not look at me or know

me, but I am just his at every moment of the day. Yeah. So it's like once I get past the newborn phase, then I'm like, I'm excited about life. Yeah, I feel that I really do. When did you do the majority of writing for your book it was half while I was pregnant and half afterwards like newborn phase yes but I wrote but I wrote the proposal like two two years ago two years ago or a year like just under two years ago and that's like a bulk of of the whole thing that's like like half the battle almost is like okay like shaping it so it also it's been a while yeah but no but that does make like when you don't get a full maternity leave or even half like and I think you were

podcast I think we podcasted together like in October, which is insane. Yeah. No, I didn't really take off. But I also think that at the same. So I complained that I went back to work too soon. But at the same time, I part of me thinks that if I hadn't, I would have complained about just being a mom. Yeah. Just having that time. I just I don't think I I'm content either way, which is why I wrote this book for myself.

Yeah. No. And for a lot, a lot of us. And I know it's been heavy on the mama talk this week on the toast, but you know what? I'm really enjoyed it. I feel like I've needed it. It's so nice to just share notes. Yeah, no, for sure. And you know what?

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No, the broader umbrella. Our Roman empires. We are just, like, history-obsessed girlies. I saw that you just finished Poldark. No, I have three episodes left. Three episodes left. Which was my first pregnancy show. Like, in my first pregnancy, a show that I watched.

And would you recommend it to the historical fiction fans in general? Oh, 100%. Let me just say that i started watching it i love your face i started watching it my first pregnancy too okay okay and i quit when something happens you know i know you told me and i'm like something i i this does not make sense like his character this is not no was there a new writer that came in here and just decided to shake things up like I can't get down with this it doesn't make sense with who he is as a person and so I quit it and over the last couple months I've been getting my face microneedled

and lasered and so there's like a couple days of downtime where like people can't see my face like you I can't go out in public so I can't leave the house so I need something to do because I can't work or do anything so I've been watching what does micro needling do well it's supposed to make me look like I'm like Hartford's eight-year-old sister you seriously do when you were talking about Hartford earlier I like thought about it for a second I'm like you guys are twins and now you're talking about that you did something to Your face and I'm like looking at your You do look like Hartford's eight-year-old

Sister thank you so much you guys better Watch on YouTube because we're sitting Down with Hartford's big sis but there Was there's downtime with this Microneedling that like it it turns you Into a beast like you look disgusting For a few days so I couldn't always Darkest before the dawn for sure and so I'm like I've ran out of period piece shows I've seen them all I love when

someone's like no but have you seen this or let me give you a list I'm like don't bother giving me a list you guys I've seen the most obscure random ones like from 2011 like everyone I've seen it and so the last one left was to go back to Poldark. And I went back to it. And honestly, Jackie, no, I love it. And I would recommend it for sure. It really got on my nerves towards the end. Like, or not even towards the end, the whole time. It was angering me.

Yeah, there are parts. But I'm too invested. I'm too invested in these characters now in this life that it's going to be one of those situations where I'm going to fall into a little bit of a slump. Like, you know, a little bit of a little bluesy slump, like a mini depression for a couple days because I'm like R.I.P. to my Poldark fam.

It's so hard to finish a show that you love. I feel like one show that I didn't finish that I watched, like your Poldark, but I haven so hard to finish a show that you love. I feel like one show that I didn't finish that I watched, like your Poldark, but I haven't had my renaissance with it yet is Outlander. Oh my God. I know you're going to like seriously like murder me through the phone.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the, that's the, it's the best. It's historical fiction girly 101. I stopped in the middle of the second season or maybe at the end of the second season. I was like, I just am not enjoying this experience. It's like I found it to be very anxiety inducing. OK, you're not actually a fan.

So like you can't you can't actually say if you stopped second season, you are you are not a fan and that's fine. We don't want you. We don't want you unless you're going to commit. You have to come out. It's like I'm like a swifty When it comes to Outlander Yeah you're out

Is that your number one Outlander I don't don't make me choose You know okay Number one what's My number one Game of Thrones oh Yes But at the same time, I wouldn't.

I don't know that I'd rewatch it. Oh, I would. But like in a couple years still. I don't know. I think the rewatch is even better because you will understand things that remember in the first season, none of us knew what the hell was going on. Yeah. But now it's like it's all foreshadowing.

Okay. It just seems like i gave a lot of my no i disagree i gave a lot of my heart i gave all of me to game of thrones and they did me so dirty at the end that i can't i was like they scandavalled me like they they cheated on me with my best friend after nine years of being together, whatever. And I can't forgive. And I don't want to forgive. When I watched the finale, I never thought about how it might affect you. And I mean, that's seriously, like, that must have been hard. I don't want to spoil anything.

But like, a lot of you is like wrapped up in this person. No, thank you for finally seeing me right now. No one said that to me. Did you see that there was supposed to be a Jon Snow spinoff show? Jackie. OK, hold on. OK, so I'm obsessed with this story. OK, because I remember when it leaked, when it came out that like a year ago or whatever. And I thought it was so kind of cringe that I'm like because the way that every article word, it was like he pitched it. He's producing it. He's creating it. And it's like, dude, like the dude holding on to like being like in his high school football team kind of thing.

Like he can't do anything else. Sort of that energy, you know, and then it like leaked. And then Emilia Clarke had confirmed and said something like this is John's thing. John's doing it. But no, I'm not like it was kind of shady, but I don't know if she meant it to be shady. And then I was like, this actually is not this is not good for this show because it's giving cringe and no one wants to make a cringe show. And now that it came out that it's not happening. And I read John Snow's name, Kit name um kit kit harrington's yeah his quotes on it he's basically saying it didn't happen because it got leaked and it was cringe that's what i was reading between the lines damn that made me sad i didn't have like an element of

sadness to the story before just like oh shucks you know hollywood they sometimes don't get things made but now i'm feeling when i climb into bed i start feeling sad i'm gonna go to bed thinking about it tonight i had buried it but you know you just you just unlocked it i'm so sorry there are a couple like spin-off shows in the works of course we got house of the dragon which is amazing of course incredible But there are some other ones that have been teased. There's an Outlander one that's coming. Oh, I'm happy for you. Not that you would care, but there's an Outlander one. There's a new Downton Abbey.

Oh, yeah. I feel like every six months that we're like in the fast five, it feels like deja vu, like Groundhog's Day, like a new Game of Thrones spinoff. It's either like, you know, cast emerge or it's been canceled. I think Charlize Theron was supposed to be in one I might have made that I didn't know I might have made it up like I might be getting the details wrong okay but are there any other ones because I'm running out of period pieces you are yeah I feel like I have a lot of good

stuff waiting for me I haven't gotten to like get into a show in so long and I'm very excited but do you of course you watch the crown no it doesn't go far back enough what yeah no I know okay okay all right so like I get this reaction from everyone that I tell no when, it sounds familiar. I know you like really ancient history and you like you find yourself, you know, you're a French Revolution sort of girl. Love a French Revolution moment. Love like a Tudor moment. Love a Renaissance moment. I could go back to ancient Rome.

That's fine. Like even but like I'll I fuck with like the turn of the century. Like, you know, the Gilded Age. I could even venture into the 1920s. But after that, I kind of lose interest. And that's where the crown is. And I know that I love royalty things. Tings.

I think I tried the first episode and it was a little bore. And I think I maybe I'll give it a shot. I don't know. But aren't they all a little all historical shows like the first episode is boring? Because I feel like that's their way of like weeding out the chafe. Oh, well, not like really, but it's like serious folks only. Yeah. Unless it's bridge and or you get Bridgerton, which is like for everyone.

And which I loved equally as much. I love Bridgerton. Okay. I mean, you know what? I don't know. It's going to have to be one of those things where like I have literally nothing else to watch. And I will start The Crown. Okay, fair.

Well, speaking of The Crown actually and Yar Girl, one of the stories this week was probably weirdly the biggest news of the week. Was Meghan Markle releasing her jams? Wait, why wasn't I? Hold on. Why wasn't I sent one? I am the biggest Meghan Markle. It's so true. And she she doesn't fuck with me.

She doesn't send me her jam. And I'm just like, enough is enough. You know, I'm out here waving the Meghan Markle flag every day. It's true. You're doing like the most ground, the boots on the ground work. For her. Changing hearts and minds. Does this make you feel differently? Just a little left out.

I feel like she mostly sent it to her friends, like not famous, not even famous friends. And like didn't send it to like influencers and. Yeah, but you know, I lent her my daughter. Have you heard this? this no this is the best rumor that's ever been spread about me it's like dark deep web you know deep web i don't know like you have to like go deep to find it okay um there is a rumor there's a group of people out there who think that i lent hartford to them when the first photo of Lilibet came out because I was actually in Europe for my wedding and so they're like she could have just flown over to England where this

photo was taken and they look identical and Stassi's actually friends with Meghan Markle I think because they I talk about how I'm a fan of her so much that people just assume that I was friends or something and there's a rumor out there that Lilibet doesn't exist. It's actually just photos of Hartford and Meghan Markle. And I'm here for it. Honestly, I believe it. I feel like that's true. And this right now, me talking about it is just the greatest cover up. Have you addressed these rumors before?

Yeah, I brought them up. Okay, I think it's true. But you're just like, like you know you don't want to protest too much so you're you're just like mentioning glazing over it and at least she could do is send you her jams but what do you think about her brand in general okay now that I feel like I'm talking to someone who is gonna have an interesting take on this I don't know that it'll be that interesting because okay I think that what She's doing is very basic and

Easy but I'm Fucking basic shit Yeah I I love something That's basic and easy but I Just like I I love the branding I love that it's her calligraphy I love that you know all Of the shots we get are so influencer

E and so just like overthe-top produced and short. I like it. I don't think it's going to stick. I don't think it's revolutionary. I don't think she's doing anything new. I just feel like they are capable of so much more. Why are you doing this? I want her to have her own brand I want

her to be an influencer I want her to be out there I want her to do something different though that hasn't been done before wow kind of a hot take and kind of like maybe you know those we love are the most honest with us but like kind of even tougher than me because I've been saying I've been saying like yeah this seems like a no-brainer and probably what they should have done from the beginning i don't know i just i really believed in like them changing the world i like really actually thought that that was gonna be the move and i thought that that was her destiny i actually still think that it could be and i think that like for him too like he's out there like fighting all these fights whether it's like for the most part about the media and I think

that's like an important message the way that the media does lie and and do fucked up shit like that's something that that that needs to be out there more people should know about I just feel like they're capable of changing the world and like jam is like not I don't know it's not my jam that's not really sweet and really beautiful and now now I'm with you they could change the world I know but like at the same time it's like you want them to like yeah like she's so beautiful and and stylish and her lifestyle looks amazing and like of course I'd want her And like, of course, I'd want her. I want more of her. So I'm happy to have this influencer version of her because I want as much of them as I possibly can get.

I just think she's capable of more. The name also, I just like don't fully get it. And it coming out right around the time that we're like hearing about Kate Middleton's cancer battle. Like it's just the timing. Like why do we why do we need to do this now? Couldn't we wait a little while? Like it just I don't know. No, you're making fire points. But if she has a cooking show, which is part of the package and part of the brand,

like that doesn't excite you. One hundred percent. And I don't cook. It does excite me. I just think. She was made for more Everything she's Been telling us is that she is made for more Not not made for

Like that's literally been what she's About like whenever like her and Harry talk about you know on their documentary Or whenever they speak out that like they Bonded over the fact that they They the Humanitarianism like and all that and so like Why why are we why are we doing jam or whenever they speak out that like they bonded over the fact that they they the humanitarianism like and all that and so like why why are we why are we doing jam then where's the humanity in jam yes and i know that they are doing things like of course like we see that like they have their

foundation and they they do things but i just they should have stayed in the royal family and just like really like they could they could have they could have done shit. They could have. That's how I felt after watching their documentary, whereas like the place that they would have had the most impact like would have been to stay there and make a difference. Do you think they would go back? Uh. Yeah, but I don't think they'd be allowed back.

I don't know. I just feel like anything is possible dream big dream big and also like the working royal family members like they're going the numbers are down right now like people are taking time off and they do need like more names and faces but like i'm sorry he dragged them to filth like you can't forget all of these things but also rightfully so but he's just saying what they've done to him and her like it's it's both they're both guilty I just feel like they're like they're both guilty both parties it's the most like it's the most nuanced situation I don't I don't – I hate when people just like wholly just like dislike Megan and Harry because like I see the arguments of how they can be unlikable. I see that.

Like they're not – I don't look at them like and think that like blindly that they're – everything they do is great. I don't think that. I think that they've experienced some really fucked up shit. Some really fucked up shit and fucked up shit has been done to them and they had no other out but to to go this route do this documentary to make money do a book to make money now find a way to survive use whatever influence they do have like still keep their titles because like duh like we need to like make a living and and our living is

expensive that they're just trying to they're just trying they're out there just trying you know they are they are okay no i love your take on them honestly it's very it's very refreshing poor megan poor harry you know what maybe she's like she's know what? Maybe she's like, she's been trying and now she's like, I just want to be an influencer. Like, fuck it. What if I just made a jam,

put on an apron? I'd love for her to just like partner with a fashion brand, like a house, like a fashion house. Like that would be so fun. When she was like the new face of Chanel, how great would that be? Oh,

that would be awesome. I also think she could be an actress again. You think? Yeah, she's a good actress. And I also think she could be an actress again. You think? Yes, she's a good actress. And I think now she would get insane parts. I don't know. And she could like write her own ticket. Is she that great of an actress?

Because like I've seen her Hallmark movie. I bought it. I bought it too. The 4th of July one, Sparks Fly. Oh my God. No, I've never, I didn't even know that one existed Which ones did you see It's like the one with like the two guys and she has to like choose

Which guy it is she's like looking over her shoulder I don't even remember what it's called but it's horrible Oh well Is that Hallmark or is that her The thing is did you watch Suits No I didn't That's surprising too It's just like not my Law I don't lawyer-y stuff

Meghan Markle-y stuff I've watched a whole series because I liked one person what series I would have to think but I feel like I do it all the time like I search for someone that I like and then I watch their show a A series or a movie? Well, definitely a movie. Definitely a movie. I'll watch a movie for someone. You know, like if I see, weirdly enough, Keira Knightley, I'll watch anything she's in.

You know what? That doesn't surprise me because she's like a great British actress and you like great British things. I guess. Okay. I guess. That's just like that makes sense. But like anything, I could just stare at her Face anything she does I just like I

Love everything about the way she talks I just I love her but like yeah whole Series I'm not sure well people who Watch suits like they fall in love with Her like she is like dazzling oh my Do I need to watch suits I think you Need to watch suits for her even but I Think also you would get into the show.

Okay, maybe you don't love lawyers. But I think the show is compelling. It was like the number one stream Netflix where you watch of all time. If they brought back Suits, she should do that. Okay. Today's episode is brought to you by Astapro. Shout out to Astapro for sponsoring this episode and providing us with free samples of their allergy medication.

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Do you go on like Daily Mail ever? Yeah I do because I look for stories Why do you think they make it a point To just like write so poorly about her Even when it's not news or something The way they write about her Is like every American hates her everything she's doing is failing like she's showing up for something lame like the way the wording around

everything is always so overwhelmingly negative well i also feel like that's daily mail they're not like the nicest except for like two three random people that are like on their list like that girl like who's the girl that was always on their snapchat stories demi rose no wait literally i knew exactly who you're gonna say who is she who is she and ariel winter wait and they're obsessed with her blanca somebody named blanca blanca banco or something that is so yeah it's like they have their chosen few but everyone else like they're kind of negative i think that that's just their style of writing. But I do, I go across the web when I look for stories

and I feel like everywhere, it's actually the opposite with her, where it's like they're always, like a People magazine, but People magazine is just kind of nice to everyone. Yeah. And they just, you know, are always so celebratory of everything that they're doing. Okay, well, that makes me happy to hear.

Because I just like, I'll click on this Daily Mail because it's just like out of habit. And I'll see all these negative, these articles. I'm like, this is strange. Do Americans really hate that? Like, this makes no sense to me. Well, I feel like the American press likes her and the American media likes her and they,

likes them and it speaks well likes her and they likes them. And it speaks well of them. But Daily Mail is still UK. And like literally Harry is in legal battle with the Daily Mail. Like they are. Excellent point. Everyone needs to be reminded of this. Everyone who goes to Daily Mail needs to be reminded of this.

That Harry is, yes, in a legal battle with them. So of course they're going to write poorly. And I think that the British media in general like is right. Speaks legal battle with them. So of course they're going to write poorly. And I think that the. So British media in general. Like is right. Speaks like poorly of them. One because the British media is like more aligned with the royal family. And two because I think the British public does not like them.

Yeah. Good point. But here like the public like them more than the British public. And the media certainly do. Okay. Here I see them as like media darlings. Except I don't understand why they're not invited to the Met Gala and Things of that nature I don't understand

Either I don't understand why they're Going with like why they do go to any of The places that they actually do go to Yeah and why they do no it's so true it Doesn't make sense like who's their PR Person who's I'll be their PR person no But it's giving like not get not playing Well with others it's giving not being

On the same page no one's being on the Same page no one knows the end goal it's Giving 50 yard dash instead of like Marathon it's like it's no one's Thinking of like the end goal big Picture big picture of what we're trying To do here that's a good point that's That I feel like is a kinder

way of putting it because I feel like it's like they don't get invited to stuff that they should get invited to why who doesn't like them but I wonder if they could get invited to the Met Gala if they choose not to go because then they know that all everyone all all the trolls, all the haters, they'll be so loud. I thought you were supposed to be doing humanitarian work. I thought you didn't want to be bothered. I thought you don't want attention. The Met Gala is a charity event. Technically.

I mean. For the Costume Institute. I just like don't feel that argument. Like that argument wouldn't work. It wouldn't. I think that's a choice that they're not going. That's their choice okay well I like that take Because otherwise it makes no sense no

We got nowhere with this conversation That no that is the beauty of Meghan Markle and Harry like we'd never get Anywhere whenever we talk about them Like no one ever does like we can never No one ever lands on like okay that Makes sense which it's a mystery on the one hand there's such a mystery but on the other hand they're like such open books they don't shut

the fuck up like he's written a book they did their documentary she's about to do a cooking show like you have to talk about your life he's doing a podcast the fact that you snow like the podcast wait wait hold on you you did it it wasn't great like why are you doing this again wait what do you what do you doing this again Wait what do you mean Who decided this what do you mean The podcast yeah no because now It's with Lemonada Yes Lemonada I don't even

I've never had never heard of Lemonada Now I now I know Okay but but what Like podcasting like Megan Like you're we're beneath you Why are it's like It's like when j-lo does things like if you want to see my engagement photos or my wedding photos go to my website and sign up for

you know my on the j-lo yes on the jail i'm like you this is beneath you this is shit that we would even like it's got my patreon yes that's what it's giving and that's what like megan markle is giving like it it makes why are you doing a podcast you don't need to be doing this yeah no now she's doing it again and i feel like i need to make a list of things of like that we've been waiting for because i would have forgotten about the lemonada of it all you know i thought podcasting was in the past i and've been talking about ARO Like this is the future But I forgot that Lemonada is involved

Are we going ARO? Oh yeah that's right Because you Yeah yeah yeah Okay Because American Riviera Orchard I already have I fumble every word

That's just Setting me up for failure I don't know I just feel like American Riviera Orchard Is like So try hard It's giving me trying really hard to come up with something chic right but it's also giving extremely off-brand because as we said like they

are a global couple why would you put american in the name it could royal riviera orchard just what about riviera orchard well the where they live is called the American Riviera in California. The Montecito is called the American Riviera. I had no idea. Now this makes a lot more sense. OK, I like it a lot more. OK, I agree. But now I feel like you live in California. You didn't know that. Like, really? But it's the location. No, the brand make no brand name makes sense. It's the location. They can't no brand name Makes sense it's the location they can't help it it is what It is American Riviera Orchard I'm gonna spend

Three months Three months of my life is gonna be Shaved off when I die For the amount of time All the times that I had to say American Riviera Orchard literally Literally but honestly This is like one of these like pop,

I'm really into this journey. I'm looking forward to the content. I thought, I hope that we would start stronger than Jam. Yeah. But maybe we're starting small and building. That's always a good strategy. For sure. Absolutely.

You know, I hope I eat my words. And I'm like the biggest, again, I'm like the biggest fan. I hope I eat. I hope that I'm like the biggest, again, I'm like the biggest fan. I hope I eat. I hope that I'm like, I was wrong. This was brilliant. She was meant to do this. This jam is changing the world for the good. This cooking show is changing the world.

This podcast is changing the world. I hope so. I love that. Ending on that optimism. Before I let you go, also something that I need to talk to you about and get your firsthand take on is you were at the Bluey premiere on the blue carpet. Wait, can I tell you how great that show was? That episode.

Everyone's talking about it. No, I cried at the end. That's what they're saying. The parents were crying. I went with my sister came with us. I looked over and we were both like, what the fuck is wrong with us what is wrong with us it was amazing were the children crying no not at all they just were like oh another another great day of bluey yeah i mean i don't think hartford fully she's three so she's not gonna get it i didn't turn

around to look at all like the older kids the other kids in the theater but it was a magical episode wow that's very exciting is that like one of the greatest perks of like doing what you do and being a mom is like being able to do and take your daughter to that sort of stuff um one of the greatest perks and also one of the worst because I looked at that party like the at like the after party of that screening and it was like like a Hollywood party like rager that I used to go to when I was like single in my 20s until like two in the morning like the way that the food the bar that just everything like everything felt very adult and there was just so much that I'm like I am like ruining my child right now like she's

gonna think that this is what normal parties are like. Normal like going to see the movies. Correct. And like that's not it. So it's the best and the worst. Yeah. I feel that. Also one more thing I wanted to ask you about is the new show The Valley

that you actually like told us years ago on the toast was like something that was brewing and then I guess they picked it back up. Have you been watching? I you have actually yeah I don't watch Vanderpump Rules but I've watched the valley you know that's surprising no because it feels like like do you ever go on Facebook and look up people that you went to school with like you want to just see what's going on that's like what the valley is to me oh my god no i totally feel that but does any part of you like wish that you were doing it or no jackie it's like when you look at those people and like you're glad you left your hometown could not have worded it better like it's it's it's like a comforting feeling like I watch it for comfort at this point so I can sleep well at night so I started the first episode and something about it like

was not bothering me but like something didn't make me want to continue watching but the more I think about the show the more I'm like this sounds like exactly what I would want to watch it's like new parents and they're like all the just mama tings there's I saw recently Naya's twin girls are play the babies on Young Sheldon oh I saw like her reel came up on my Instagram like taking the girls to play baby Cece at Young Sheldon and I guess they're like child actresses and they play baby Cece on Young Sheldon which is a show that we love and it's just like the valley's kind of layered I will say this last episode that I saw Nia was like super open about her postpartum depression and her baby blues and it was so like I got emotional and I'm like wow like I I I feel this and yeah really this is brave this is brave um but for the most part

that's like not why like I watch it yeah understood I know I think I'm gonna pick it back up because I feel like those parts will bully me through like the rest of the absolute chaos no the chaos will carry you though no like the chaos will carry you there like it's it's like it gives me the same feeling as like when i used to watch 90 day fiance where i'm like is this real is this real like for real okay oh my god now honestly this is the best advertisement for the show for sure like go watch it you guys like it's wow It's wow Would you ever continue watching Banner Pump Rules

No I think I took You know no I like don't No Yeah and I'm friends I'm Too close to some of them that like It just wouldn't because like I get tagged In things all the time people like I need Stassi to come back and like tell Off Lala or like tell off Sheena or tell off Katie and Ariana or tell off somebody.

And I'm like, I, I don't know what's going on. Like when I see Lala and we hang out, we don't talk about what's happening on Vanderpump Rules. Yeah. So like it's I don't know what's going on on the show. I think it would like disappoint a lot of people like you guys don't want me back on. You don't want to see that. Like I don't have anything to say. Zero opinions. Yeah I feel that you also feel like you're you're friends with most of the girls who are still on the show and then like there's infighting among them because they're on the show. Yeah so that's what I'm talking about when I like get tagged and people like saying things like that

it's like constant like after every episode and like I don't know about those fighting I have no idea who's fighting with who I watch the valley you guys I'm mature I watch the valley do you find that you fight with your friends less like not being on a reality show oh yeah if I fight with a friend then they're not my friend anymore right that's like that's that's where I'm at and like that's also why I don't want to do this like I'm not I don't want that in my life. Like, so like if we're fighting, we just like don't hang out anymore. Right. That's like what happens with normal people.

But when this person's like your coworker, you have to see them all the time. Like you kind of have to forgive them and move on or else what are we doing here? Yes. Otherwise, you like you can't make a show. So like, yeah, I get it. Like, I've been explained the situation as much as possible. I'm like, I see all sides. She sees all sides. She sees all sides She sees all sides

And now she's watching the valley Okay well I have to go to turn on the valley To TiVo it Stassi thank you so much for joining the toast This has just been a pleasure Where can everyone pre-order your book? It is available now for pre-order It's called You Can't Have It All.

Amazon, Barnes & Noble. I think anywhere that you can buy a book. Comes out September 10th. Beautiful. And we will leave the link in the description of this episode so you can pre-order your copy and you don't miss out. Thank you. Thank you so much, Sassy.

We love you. Thanks for being here. Have me back whenever Because I love you guys If your show ever went away What the fuck would I do When I'm doing my makeup every morning Is that when you listen to us?

Yeah Nice That's the move And it's like I need that every day And you're on West Coast time So we come out in the morning for you Yeah so I normally I'm like a few days back always

Oh okay So our timing means nothing to you No it doesn't No I like that come out in the morning for you. Yeah, so I normally, I'm like a few days back always. Oh, okay. So our timing means nothing to you. No, it doesn't. No, I like that. It takes the pressure off. Yeah. Okay, well, thank you so much, everyone. Have a great weekend.

Next week is Passover, but Chag Sameach to all those celebrating and we will see you next week. Love ya. Bye.