The Toast - Stronger Than Expected: Thursday, December 5th, 2024

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

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Good morning, millennials! Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday! We made it to the second half of the week. I'm in a better mood. Hey, Jax, how ya doing? Yay! Would you say it feels like a der-sday? Or a Thursday?

Thursday. I don't know, it's a little dersy because... It is, actually. We have so much going on today culminating with you coming to my house for chicken parm. Not only that, it definitely feels like a Thursday. And I meant to bring this up yesterday, but it was happening while I was recording. And I don't know if anybody heard,

and today you might hear all day yesterday, helicopters all throughout the city. There is a manhunt, like everyone I know is like really taking the manhunt really seriously, that there was a shooting of a CEO in New York and the guy like ran. And so now everyone's out in the streets, there's cops everywhere, every street is closed,

there was helicopters whirring all day yesterday. So I don't think the shooter's like looking for any of us, but like it is crazy to have like a shooter on the loose. So in that sense, it's giving Dersday. So if you hear helicopters, I am going to run today's audio through like a background noise reducer. Through a helicopter manhunt reducer. Yeah. I don't know if they have that setting on my program,

but that's what that is. It's also DIRS because usually the redheads comes out first Thursday of the month in the morning, but we're actually recording today because the redheads are, they're hard to get all in one place. They're mothers, they're podcasters, they're business owners, they're hard to get all in one place. So they will be coming out. They're podcasters, they're business owners, they're executives, like they can't.

They're satchels. They can't be put in the box. Do you know how hard it is to nail down a satchel? I saw it, I got a piece of satchel last night. Last night? Yeah. Oh, at Soto. Yeah, and I'm wearing my Soto merch. You guys know, like I'm obsessed with the Soto method.

Let me just show you guys my new sweatshirt. Soto method by Parky? Yeah, by Parky. I work out, not these days, but like I do. Did once upon a time. Once? No, no, I didn't mean one time. Once upon a time.

Yeah, about 15 months ago, I committed my life to fitness exclusively via the Sodo method, which is actually, I have to give credit to Jackie. She introduced me to her friend, Hillary from college, who started the Sodo method. She's kind of like my best friend. I think like we would say like she's my friend. No, like, yeah, you're closer, you see her more

and you're closer with her now, but the originator. Yeah. You're friends with Hillary by way of me. Correct. By way. I know I saw videos from the event last night. She's also pregnant. She has shared with twins, right?

Yeah, she's eight months pregnant with twins and she's like leading this fitness empire teaching classes. She's making me so nervous. She's literally an inspiration to women. She is. I wanna see her on the Hollywood power of women. Pregnant with twins, leading a fitness class, not stopping gorgeous, most gorgeous woman in the world.

So she had a party last night because she opened her very first flagship studio. She's been doing these pop-ups all over the city and they're so popular. So she has an official space in Tribeca and she gave a speech. And first of all, everyone was crying. She just had a bunch of people she needed to target,

her chief of staff, her husband, her parents, her brother, everyone. And she's such an amazing speaker. She didn't have anything written down or anything. And everyone was crying. And then she was like, I know people look at me and they're like in awe. I'm eight months pregnant.

I have literally eight pounds of baby. The babies weigh eight pounds right now. I'm like, they're pushing on my gallbladder. And she's like, and I know everybody thinks like I'm so crazy and like how hard it is. She's like, and that's life. Like life is hard, but you can do harder things. So like she was basically telling everyone to like do more.

I was like, oh. Work harder. Yeah, I was like, no, okay. I love that. And then I got to see S. Yeah, I was like, no, okay. I love that. And then I got to see Satchi, cause Satchi was there too. So it was really nice to just be out with my Satch. Well, I'll be talking to Satchi

for about 75 minutes uninterrupted, except by Dana and Rebecca this afternoon. I finished our book for the Redheads last night, Shred Sisters. Oh Dana, she knows how to pick them. In a good or a bad way. In like, in a Dana way. Like she keeps us literary.

Like I would never have read this book. I didn't, it flew by. Like it was one of those books that's just, I don't know what the point is. We're just passing the passage of time. I think it's about the passage of time and sisterhood. And also a thing that they kept saying in the book, it's about two sisters who are so different,

like me and you, just kidding. Not like us at all. But they kept saying like, no one will ever love you more than a sister or hurt you more than a sister. And like people say that about sisters. Not my sisters. That's not true all the time. That no.

No, I don't like that at all. Even when we read good sister, it's like there's always this trope like the sister. It's like, you know, the best and the worst to have. No, like it's just the best. No, not for everyone. Like, yeah, there are examples, but like these sweeping generalizations

don't apply to everyone. No, everything is different for everyone all the time, but like, they just say, that's like the fact about sisterhood. It's like, sometimes you love it, sometimes you screw sisterhood. And that's just not been my experience. So I just want to like shed light on the fact

that like that's not a universal truth. Unless you're Victor Garber, of course. But then it's screw sisterhood all the time. Correct. You don't get that love. I'm so excited to come down to your house. I feel like the last couple of times I've come to visit you, I've just been like, yeah, I'm going to my sister's, whatever.

But whenever I come to you in the dead of winter, it really exemplifies why people move to Florida. I totally get it. It's so unenjoyable here between the manhunt and the 20 degree weather, like I gotta go. So that's like something I'm looking forward to. And we have Gisnow, we have family time. I'm very excited.

Yeah, it's gonna be a really fun weekend. The weather here is like so pargy for us cause there's a chill in the air, but it'll be like hot for you. Winds in the east, a chill coming in. And it's going to be a great weekend. Tomorrow we'll be together in front of the flamingos. Yeah, doling out Queenie and Weenie.

Queenie and Weenie, what a long week. I know. When you think about it. How are the stories today? They actually were stronger than expected. S-T-E. I like that. Strong stronger than expected. S-T-E. I like that. Mm-hmm.

Stronger than expected. And so I guess that's what we did last night, soda and shred. Soda and shred. Shred and soda. Yeah, what else did I do last night? I made a soup. I wore a skirt.

Because like I said, there's a chill, we've got some runny noses in the house. Oh good, great. Oh yeah, you'll be fine. It's literally like just a runny nose. I'm really excited to see you and Liv and the kids. Like have the kids been talking, is everyone just being like,

Cojers is coming, let's wrap presents and give her stuff. Is that what they're saying? Yeah, yeah, they're definitely saying that. They're excited that Romeo's coming. Bruno is like getting his crate ready for two. He gets like put in blankets. Oh yeah, I need a crate. I mean, Romeo can sleep in Bruno's crate.

Bruno doesn't sleep in there. It was just a little joke. No, no, but you reminded me, I've never traveled with Romeo before. I've never brought him to your house. And we also do also have a spare crate. Okay, good. Romeo's never been to my house.

I don't think so. Oh, he's in for a treat. Yeah, and he's like, he's gonna freak when he sees a backyard. Like he's gonna be like, wow, my cousins live like this and I live in squalor in manhunt NYC. I'm gonna say yes. Well, if the plane won't let him on the return flight home,

that's okay too. Imagine, I just gave up Romeo. By the way, I could never, I haven't even really talked about my journey with Romeo in recent weeks. It was a slow start for me in Romeo. Let me tell you, there's nobody like him. He is, I actually, and I said this to Ben and Ben doesn't like when I compare Romeo and Theo.

I actually might love Romeo more, no. No. No, but the thing is is that I so specifically was setting out to find a dog who was a carbon copy clone of Theo that I actually now think of Romeo and Theo as the same dog. So the love that I had for Theo just transferred. What's Romeo's birthday?

December 16th. And what day did Theo pass? Like me and Ben thought this, we thought that they might have crossed like on the same day and we were freaking. No worries, he's a reincarnated spirit. They okay, so Theo was dying when Romeo was born. So I think that Theo maybe had one leg in the other universe, met Romeo.

Theo died after September 16th. No, he died early December. Yeah, wait, hold on, hold on. I'm getting my dates on. I think there's probably like a week. How long does it take to reincarnate? Do you have to be born on the same day? I'm not completely sure.

I feel like there's a few days of like, you know, soul passage. I think he's the reincarnated spirit. I'm trying to find, just give me a second, cause me and Ben. Take your time. December 14th was when Romeo was born. Oh, okay.

And then I could tell you, cause we did this one's for do episode. But that was the day after we took the day off. Yes. December 8th. Okay. One week. One week. Exactly. December 7th, Theo died. December 14th, Romeo was born.

I believe it takes one week to prepare the soul for reincarnation. For that significant passage of time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, me and Ben have talked this through. So I feel like when I'm looking at Romeo, like I don't even feel guilty about having so much love for him. Like it's literally Theo.

Like I did, I did what I set out to accomplish, which was like literally clone my dog. They look exactly like. Copy paste. Yeah, like I passed a picture of Theo on the fridge and it looked, to me it's Romeo. That's so sweet, well I'm so excited to see dear Romeo. And Ben, is Ben flying with you?

Of course not. You know, he loves to take a separate flight. It wouldn't be a trip to your home if me and Ben did not take separate flights. He has an event tonight and I wanted to come tonight. So it's a Southern Charm premiere which he's really excited about. So. That's awesome. Yeah, and like spritz is like, you know, it's like a whole thing it's a Southern Charm premiere which she's really excited about so that's awesome yeah and like Spritz is

like you know it's like a whole thing so Southern Charm is on tonight oh my god I'm so excited even though I didn't finish watching last season but I think I'm just gonna jump right in if I wait I'll never watch it yeah yeah yeah and they have all these new cast members so I think what's past is past that's what's significant about the passage of time. Well, as we've said so many times with our annoying, non-events that we have so much going on today, I think we should get into the?

Me too, let's have stew. So not stew, beef stew. Do you want beef stew while you're here? Should I order beef chunks? I don't, I'm good. Anything else you wanna request? Cause I have to get the meat. Just like have meat, you know,

for when I decide what I want. Like asking me what I want today for tomorrow is fruitless. No, no, no, but like what are, in general, like what are you craving? Seriously, all I eat is pizza. Like frozen pizza, pizza bagels, pizza from the street. Like I'm running on pizza. But it's not what you're,

it's cause it's what you're craving or it's just easy and filling. It's easy, it's filling and it's got cheese. So? It's easy, it's filling, and it's got cheese. So it's like protein, it's like a salad. It doesn't gross you out. Yeah, yeah. It's not necessarily what I'm in the mood for. Okay, well you could take a look at the recipe book

and pick out your menu items. I'm so sorry, I can't believe I did a whole recap. Yesterday I saw Mark. Mark Schoenwetter. You have a lot of Marks in your life, if you know you know. I do. No, I saw the only Mark in my life. It was Mark Schoenwetter. For those a lot of Marks in your life. If you know, you know. I do. No, I saw the only Mark in my life.

It was Mark Schoenwetter. For those who don't know, like three years ago, this girl from my high school texted me. We like kept in touch and she runs like a production company. She's like, I'm putting together this video series where I'm putting like pairing like celebrities, influencers with different Holocaust survivors to make a video that will share like each day of Hanukkah.

It'll be like a different celeb. And I was like, duh, love. She introduced me to like who I would be speaking with. His name was Mark and we met at a studio downtown and I interviewed him. And let me tell you, like I fell in love with him from the minute I met him and we've become best friends ever since.

Like also with his family, he has like two daughters and a ton of grandkids who are like toasters and like college age. So like we love. And he's from New Jersey and we're just, we're literally best friends. Like we talk all the time. And now we started to do that video every year.

Like the series no longer exists. Just like me and Mark, it's kind of like become a Hanukkah staple and everybody really looks forward. And every year when we released the video, we raised money for his foundation. He has a foundation called the Mark Schoenwetter Holocaust education foundation where they give grants, like any teacher. If you're a teacher, you can go on his website, apply, because there's no Holocaust curriculum and like public schools don't have funding for like textbooks or anything, so they give a teacher, you can go on his website, apply. Because there's no Holocaust curriculum and public schools don't have funding

for textbooks or anything. So they give out grants, people will apply and they choose people to give grants for buses to museums, curriculum. Holocaust education. Holocaust education and it's really, really powerful. And I know so many toasters who are teachers have applied and some of them have even gotten the grants.

And so it's a small foundation, but we're getting bigger and every year we raise money when me and Mark do our video. Small but mighty. I think we've raised like $200,000 in the last couple of years And every year we raise money when me and Mark do our video. Small but mighty. I think we've raised like $200,000 in the last couple of years. So we filmed our video, our annual Hanukkah video. We made sufganiyot, which is like the traditional Hanukkah treat.

It's basically a jelly donut. It's so good. We went to like the famous Bread's Bakery and baked them together. And I don't know if I like shared, just kind of like big news with me. I don't know, did I share this? Mark actually, his daughters, a couple of months ago,

they asked me, yeah, me, to be a board member of their organization, which never been on the board of anything before. It just felt powerful. I was like, oh, okay, board. We have a meeting next week. It is, they don't ask like slobs to be on the board. No, it's like actually really serious.

Yeah, that's awesome. So when I was sharing that I was with Mark, I wanted to share, because so many people were like, oh my God, what was Mark's reaction to your pregnancy? And I actually forgot to share that when Mark found out I was pregnant, he left me a voicemail. And it was seriously, like I actually can't even listen to it too many times, it like makes me so emotional.

It was the sweetest thing ever. And I am gonna play it forever, because it's too sweet because it's too sweet. It's too sweet. Let me get... Claudia and Mark greater than Ben and Alex Gornaschelli. It's like not even a comparison. Okay, you guys ready?

Like seriously, get your tissues. It's the sweetest thing. Hi, Claudia. This is Mark Schoenwetter. First of all, and the most important thing, I want to say congratulations. I am so happy to hear that you're going to be a mommy. All the best to you. Hopefully we will see each other soon. And all the best again. Feel well, do things well, and congratulations.

Talk to you soon. Bye. Feel well, do things well. Like that's- Do things well, bitch, okay? Yeah, like that's- You know what he's saying. Of course I do.

That's literally some of the best advice I've ever received. I agree. He's too much. I love him. So stay tuned for that video. You guys are gonna quake when you see what we got into. Ooh, I'm excited. Have you ever been in the back of a bakery?

Like, no. No. Let me tell you, Jackie, it's like, seriously, the most amazing place you could ever be. Like, there's just like food everywhere. And I know they had to clean it. Is there really? Yes.

I feel like it's one of those things where it's like, it's just, there's flour everywhere. Yes, okay, fine. There's not like edible food. Not actually edible goods. The edible goods are in the front where you chop. There's powdered sugar, there's dough. It's like seriously like a fairy land.

And I guess like, I know they had to, I know they had to like clean the whole place after I left, cause I was like putting my finger in everything and being like, yeah, what's this? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So stay tuned for that. Well, while you wait for that video, enjoy this video. The past five stories that you need to know.

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Our first story, a little social media drama, Mattie Healy stepped in it by going to Twitter war with Azalea Banks. So after a heated social media exchange between Mattie Healy and Azalea Banks, he says he'll stick to music. He said, guys, I don't have the right kind of intelligence slash emotional maturity, et cetera, for social media. I literally just ended up saying stuff that I immediately regret, et cetera. I'm actually just gonna stick to music

because I'm good at that. Having manic episodes on Twitter at 35 is kind of pathetic. So this started because Azalea Banks called out Charlie XCX, who is engaged to his bandmate. Yes, George. I didn't know that. And I also know that she's friends with Maddie's fiance, good friends.

Yeah, no, it's like a 1975, like, you know, groupie type of thing. So I knew that. So him defending her wasn't shocking to me, but Azalea, like, you know, she likes to take swings at people who literally aren't even like talking to her. And so she did that.

And I think most of the time she expects nobody to respond, but somebody major responding, and she took the opportunity to eviscerate this man. And seriously, I think Taylor Swift is going to send her flowers. Like she came for his teeth, his music, his life, his family, his fiance. Like what he first said, cause she was like talking about Charlie XCX looks and he said, Azalea, you seem to have a blind spot when it comes to your reads. All the women you attack seem to be culturally relevant, attractive, divisive and nice people.

Divisive confused me. It confused him too because he used the wrong word. Okay, cool, cool, cool. He said, I think this makes you jealous because you're so talented, but everything else about you is a failure. Just rap, bro. So he was defending his friend and he also, in, like he also then attacked back, which I think was his first mistake

because like he awoke the beast of Azalea. And she then went on to like berate him. And that's why the tweet you just read, he was like, listen, I didn't want, I nevermind. Yeah, no, he regrets having started with her because she ate him alive. She ate him up. Yeah, there are so many tweets.

She talks about his fiancee, Gabrielle. He said, the bitch looks like Frankenstein to me. You both look like you share needles, LMAO. Then she also went in, she went, she did a whole dissertation on his teeth and like, gingivitis and dental health. And then she also threatened to sue Healy and leaked DMs in which she apologized to her.

She concluded by attacking the Mattie Healy for quote, getting fined $4 million for kissing a man on stage in Malaysia, doing a Nazi salute, watching violent porn, being a heroin addict, writing shitty songs, randomly attacking black women and capping for trash white bitches. Who's that? Is that? Lying for trash white bitches. I mean- Capping? Capping is lying?

Yes, it is. Oh, okay. Like no cap. I'm not lying. Oh, but he was capping. He was capping. I don't know what all of this is referring to. All I know is like, if I ever end up in a place where Azea Banks is ever talking about me on her social media, like actually take me out back and shoot me. I couldn't handle it. I said, I think I love you, I respect you, I bow down, please never, may this type of beef never find me.

Yeah, it's so true. So he's excluding himself from this narrative, one in which he actually started. But at the end of the day, I can't fault him for just wanting to defend his friend. This is his friend's fiance. I'm sure they know each other really well, him and Charlie. His mistake was also retaliating

and trying to take digs at Azalea, calling her not relevant and you know, she only comes for beautiful women. Yeah, so that was a mistake. Maybe she wouldn't have came for him so hard if he just was defending his friend. Yeah, if he was just like, I think Charlie XS is a beautiful woman, never looks better.

Right, right. Like it's, and then anyone who falls in the cross hairs of Azalea Banks like has my utmost sympathy. And Maddie Healy is not like a sympathetic person. I just like, I have a hard time feeling bad for him. So just like, sorry. Yeah, but- bad for him. So just like, sorry. Yeah. Like, I saw why that sucks. I don't know if Azalea and Lurd are going to be exchanging pleasantries. Like even though

technically the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Yeah. There's a lot of politics at play here. Yeah. So that was a lot. Yeah. Azalea makes is really interesting to me. Yeah. I feel as though she speaks the truth a lot. Like she has been at the center of a lot of, I mean, Elon and Grimes, like that was literally her.

She was the one like living with them, right? Yeah. And I feel like even though she isn't really like, not to sound like Maddie Haley, she's not like super relevant in terms of like music making. I feel like she gets like into rooms that other people aren't in and then she like literally blows up the room.

Yeah. She's so interesting today. She's an interesting cat. I wonder why nobody has done like a full feature on Azalea Banks. Like she actually moves the needle culturally. Yeah, maybe that's coming. Maybe after Anne Rogers.

Like a paper magazine type or interview mag, you know, like those sort of artsy ones. She actually moves the needle culturally. Yeah. Maybe that's coming. Maybe after Anne Rogers. Like a paper magazine type or interview mag, you know, like those sort of artsy ones. Yeah. I mean, maybe they have, but are you reading interview mag? No, but there would be big headlines, and especially because I always have other celebrities do.

It would be like Azalea Banks by Grimes. Right. And she's so quotable. She is. No, her reads are like seriously. Maddie Healy Kong is dentist. They're expert level reads. Like seriously, her reads are like seriously. Maddie Healy calling his dentist. They're expert level reads. Like seriously, they're very eloquent.

They're not the typical like yet ugly. No, they're deep cuts. She's seriously, it's an art the way she does it. It's quite beautiful when it's not you. Yeah, agreed. And please, God, may it never be me. Well, our next story, speaking of the Lird universe, the Lirdiverse, actually, I guess now Lird and Turd

were getting very close. Perfect. But Amy Adams is reacting to a petition that would cast her as Taylor Swift's publicist in a biopic. So if the Swifties have anything to say about it, Amy Adams might just have her next role lined up after a fan theorized that Amy would win an Oscar

for her portrayal of Taylor Swift's publicist Tree Payne in a potential biopic. The Sixth Time Academy Award nominee reacted to a petition for the fantasy casting. She said on The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon. She said that would be amazing. That would be so fun. I mean if it got closer if it got me closer to Taylor then that would be fun. LOL. That's really funny because Tree Payne is like a, you know, famous redhead. And so when you think of like,

who would play you in a film, there's only a handful of people, Isla Fisher and Amy Adams and Jessica Chastain. But I guess the Swifties have chosen Amy Adams. I have no problem with this. Yeah, I've never really like looked at a lot of pics of Tree Payne. I didn't even realize like she's one of us.

Beautiful. She's a redhead. She's also like a tall, slender, she looks like a model. Like she's gorgeous. Yeah. When she is in these rooms, I bet some people think she's famous. Like that's how pretty she is.

How did they meet? You know what, I actually don't know, but there is a point in Taylor's career where Treepayne enters and everything changes. Like there was such a point in Taylor's career where tree pain enters and everything changes. Like there was such a shift in, and tree is really responsible for the whole, you know, Easter egg universe, the mystery, like that's all tree.

Taylor nation. Yeah, like that's all tree. So I actually would love a movie or like some sort of documentary. It can happen now. It would need to happen like in a hundred years. Yeah. But it is really interesting, like she's very smart

and she doesn't have other clients, like she's not a publicist, even the biggest celebrities, they all share a couple of the same publicist. Tree Payne exclusively works for Taylor, I would love to know how much she gets paid, it's at least a million dollars a year. Like she doesn't do any other work, like Tree is for Taylor and that's it.

Which is very uncommon for a publicist. You get paid monthly by like a bunch of different people. Right. I think she makes a lot more than that. You think she makes more than a million dollars a year? 100%. How much you think? Five, 10? Cause she's obviously a publicist,

so she handles all of Taylor's like media relations, but she's also like an advisor to Taylor. I think Taylor like trusts her strategy. How much would you pay a C-suite executive? Right, right. Of a billion dollar corporation. Yeah, it's actually so true, you pay them like $60 million a year.

Yeah. I would love to know. Or is it like a typical publicist retainer? Hell no. No, but maybe like, you know, you get paid per month. That's how publicists work. And most celebrity publicists, I feel like, are between like eight and 10, you get paid per month. That's what how publicists work. And a celebrity, most celebrity publicists, I feel like are between like eight and 10, $12,000 a month.

Maybe trees getting a hundred K a month. Oh, sure. I don't know what the payout, the stuff, like what her billing cycle looks like. Right. If she's on salary. Yeah. Or if she's a contractor.

Do you like, do you think she has health insurance with Taylor, like things like that? Great question. No, I'm sure she has health insurance with Taylor? Like things like that. Great question. No, I'm sure she has her own company with like staff that like, yeah, I don't know. This is what the biopic would dig into. What's the health insurance policy? And I love that Amy Adams is game.

Yeah, cute. Maybe one day. That is how things start sometimes. Like it's like an internet joke. But I wouldn't find it, I would find it hard to believe if they released it now. And also I feel like no one's writing up Tree Pains

but I feel like she would have to write a memoir or something, like memoirs of a tree. Oh my God, I would love that. Right, and then that could be adapted. I just don't think like someone's gonna go start like shadowing Tree, that's not gonna happen. I would also love to know what Tree's career was like prior to working with Taylor.

Like how do you even get on the desk of Taylor Swift as like... Maybe she was working for a publicist firm on Taylor's account and then went in-house. She has been the exclusive publicist of Taylor Swift since 2014. She went to the University of Southern California and she was a Pi Beta Phi sorority. So she began her career as an intern. Oh, I guess she worked all in music. She worked at a British label. Then she worked in a marketing manager at a different label and then executive assistant at A&R. And then yeah. What was her last job before? In 1995, she joined Interscope Records as a West Coast marketing and artist development rep. She worked with No Doubt, Nine Inch Nails,

Marilyn Manson, et cetera. Then she left to start her own street marketing company, retaining Bonnie Raitt as her first ever client, the country star. She's like an old school country girl, swirly Bonnie Raitt. She has big red hair, do you know her? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Over the years, her client roster grew to include labels like Warner Records, Capital Records, oh wow, London Recordings, 143 Recordings in 99. She merged her company with Immortal Records and created IR Street Marketing. She then took a position at WME in Beverly Hills where she met Gail Holcomb, the vice chairman of the ACMs. So then she began getting hired by the ACMs in 2002 to oversee media, radio, marketing, and the academy. 2007, she joined Warner Music Nashville.

Oh, okay, this was her last job. Okay. She joined Warner Music Nashville as VP for publicity. In 2013, she was promoted to Senior Vice President of Publicity. She oversaw all publicity for Warner Music Group's country and Christian divisions. So it was for publicity. In 2014, Payne announced that she was leaving Warner Music Group's country and Christian divisions. Then in 2014, Payne announced that she was leaving

Warner Music, starting her own firm, Premium PR. Her first and only client was Taylor Swift. The rest is her story. Oh, whose publicist, prior publicist, who she had worked with for seven years. Taylor's prior publicist was named Paula Erickson. She resigned, so all good. Yeah, and the rest is her story.

That is so interesting. Not to spoil the biopic or the memoir, but there you go, there you have it. So she's really like, she kind of reminds me a lot of Bose from Real Housewives, like really climbing the corporate ladder, became the VP of Warner Music, and that's where she met Taylor.

She doesn't remind me of her at all, but. Why, she had like a million jobs at like high profile companies. Yeah. And she was probably like extremely well paid as the head of publicity for her. How old is she? Yeah, that's a good question.

Doesn't look as old as her resume. She was, what's her birthday? 1971. Oh, but this is weird. Have you ever seen this? Tree Payne, born 1971 or 1972. I love that for her. Keep them guessing.

So she's in her forties. Are you just too available? Thank you. She's 53, nevermind. Oh, wow. Okay. She looks amazing. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Meghan and Harry, there's a lot of rumors swirling about Meghan and Harry. They've been at separate events and Harry is addressing the divorce rumors like sort of in New York City, but she was supporting Tyler Perry at an LA event this week and he was in New York. They haven't been, they posted that video a while ago,

but there's been a lot of like divorce rumors about them. But there always is, I never take them seriously. Yeah, I don't, not that this feels different, and I also feel like even if they are going to get divorced, like they won't. No, although I do want to say I do ship Meghan and Tyler Perry. He was so there for her in her time of need

of his billion dollar homes. And I think that she would be really happy, but I agree. I happen to think that a lot of the divorce rumors are overblown, but of course, sometimes where there's smoke, but I agree. I happen to think that a lot of the divorce rumors are overblown, but of course sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire. But even if there was like an issue in their marriage, like I don't think it would be wise for their businesses, but also for like their own psyche to ever really admit

to the public that it didn't work out. No, no two people are more bound to each other than these two. Bound for life. So he dispelled divorce rumors while speaking in New York. He said, apparently we've bought or moved houses 10, 12 times. We've apparently divorced maybe 10 to 12 times as well.

So it's just like, what? He went on to say that he feels sorry for internet trolls who look for ways to tear down the pair. He said, it's hard to- Oh, don't be sorry. We're having so much fun. Don't feel bad for us. We might not have palaces and you know,

but we are having a good time. I'm having fun. I don't know that there that he's having fun. I feel like she's having fun. She's at an event. That's super fun. Yeah. No, she's with her boyfriend, Tyler Perry. I don't think he's having fun

getting tattoos with jelly roll. Um, he said it's hard to keep up with, but that's why you just sort of ignore it. Their hopes are just built and built, and it's like, yes, yes, yes, and then it doesn't happen. So I feel sorry for them. I genuinely do. I just wanna say, I hope,

I do not want them to get divorced at all. That would be the craziest thing. Not good. I wouldn't want that. I hope that they're really happy together, for everything that they- Of course. I hope that they're really happy together, for everything that they- Of course. For everything that they risked.

I hope it worked out. I want a happy ending for these two. And I also want her fucking cooking show is what I want. I'm just, I just wanted to make sure I didn't know if Tyler Perry was single, but apparently he's been single since 2020. Interesting. Right around the time he met Megan.

Literally. She medsated single since 2020. Interesting. Right around the time he met Megan. Literally. She mexited in 2020. She mexited right into his heart. Yeah. The thing is, is we could project and guess all we want about these two, but you're right in that they have far too much to lose. Business-wise, pride-wise, like a million things.

Pride. They could never. So who knows what the hell's going on inside that house? Yeah, but they really like don't, they're not together publicly like that much. A lot. They like are public figures and that's the job. Yeah, but they're not public a lot period.

But you could always say like, you never know what goes on inside. People don't have to be together, whatever, cause I do believe that, but they're literally like a famous couple. Throughout history, actually. They are famous, they are famous for being a couple. Yeah.

So the long distances where we don't like see them together and they're not like, they used to be like side by side, never without the other, which also, you know, it's good to have space. But I think maybe also they'll- I don't know, and I imagine, like I imagine it's a hard time for them. They're sort of finding their feet in this big new world.

I think that there was a time where, yes, they were like a famous couple and they were spot, but I think their life has changed so much and they've actually set it up intentionally that they're not photographed as much as they once were. Like every outing when they were Royals was like an official outing. So there was like a million pictures of them. I think they have kind of designed their life to have like less public appearances, but you're right in the sense that like the last couple of times we've seen both of them, it

has been individually. Yeah. I do see what you're saying about her and Tyler Perry. And I- No, there's chemistry there for sure. And you're always like, you're always gonna like feel warm towards the person who rescued you.

It's kind of like the damsel in distress trope. 100%. Okay. Keeping an eye out. So I'm gonna think about- For sure. Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Oh no, sorry, oh my God.

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It's always gonna be a safe choice. Beautiful. Our next story, Carrie Underwood will headline the 2025 New Year's Rockin' Eve with host Ryan Seacrest on ABC. Well, that's crazy, because I feel like there are currently really two big New Year's Eve bashes.

Dix, Rockin', Dick and Clark. This is Dix. Yeah. But also Nashville, the big country one, that's like really been coming up recently. And it's CBS, I think. And I feel like the last couple of years, we've literally toggled between both channels. So for Carrie to kind of take a stand, not with country, it's very interesting. Well, you know, she's an NBC swirly with that, oh, nevermind.

This is ABC. And also she's an NBC swirly with that way all day full. Oh, nevermind. This is ABC. And also she's doing American Idol. And it's like, yes, she could be just another country singer or she could join like the nation, be the face of like the nationwide program. Like she's kind of stepping on up.

Yeah. Yeah. She said, bye losers. I'm going to New York. No, she's taking like mainstream. I forgot that she's a judge on American Idol coming up. Yeah, she'll take the stage in New York City's Times Square to ring in 2025 on Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve

with Ryan Seacrest on ABC. In addition, other performers include Megan Moroney. Love, oh. British singer-songwriter, Sophie Ellis Bexter. I don't know her. While multi-hyphenate Diana Torres will return as a co-host in Puerto Rico. So it'll be a global affair.

A global affair. Cool, did you see Kelly Clarkson last night hosting the Rockefeller Center? No, I was reading. Tree lighting? Shred Sisters. I recorded it, so, cause like I literally wanna watch it, but I was out.

I heard she crushed it, just absolutely crushed it. Of course she did, a consummate professional. NBC is actually, I would say the best network when it comes to finding talent and like really fostering. Like this is, I think the second year Kelly's done it. She's obviously a huge part of the NBC family with her show. And then the OGs were of course there, like I saw Hoda and Savannah, you know.

NBC doesn't do anything. Oh, I saw they were celebrating their last one together. Oh yes. It was bittersweet. That is sad. The same for the Thanksgiving Day Parade. Yeah. That was Hoda's last soiree.

Damn. And the year is ending, which means so was Hoda's contract. Like it's coming. Yeah. And Jenna and friends. Yeah. Jenna and friends. Well, it's great to see big talent at Dick's Rockin'.

I like this. I think this is a strong choice. Same, same. Although the other headliners, I mean the other performers, like it was lackluster. Maybe more. And I feel like it's usually. Maybe more will be announced. And also Carrie's going to be singing.

What do young people watch? Like I remember when we were growing up, like it was Dick Clark. Like seriously, it was only one channel. Young people like Gen Z. Yeah, like are they not watching cable? They're out at a party, I think. No, but still, like when we were kids,

before we were out at a party, what were we watching? Before we were out, okay, so like when we're tweeting, we're watching ABC, Dick Clark, Dick Clark. So what are those kids today watching? I think Dick Clark, because it's what their parents are putting on, right? I feel, yes, I guess, but I feel like TikTok does like live streams, like they do live at the Oscars,

they go live everywhere and they have like their talent host. I feel like that's what a lot of people watch. The idea of ringing in the new year, like looking at your phone just seriously makes me sad. It's horrible. Seriously depressing. Turn on the TV. And there's always CNN, Andy.

There's always CNN. And that's like a very, I feel niche. Like I don't think they have the biggest numbers, but they make, they always make a lot of news. Yeah. And I think they're bringing alcohol back this year. Yeah. Or they're taking it away.

No, they took it away last year and like it was funny but not sustainable. And I believe they've been giving the green light to bring it back. Okay, cool, cool. Prohibition is over. So yeah, well, I'll watch a bit of it each. I'll watch Carrie, I'll watch Nashville,

depending on commercials. I probably won't watch CNN, but I will watch the clips. Like Andy always goes viral. When he called Ryan Seacrest a loser. Yeah yeah that's when the alcohol was banned after that mm-hmm which I feel but it was funny right right are you ready for our fifth and final story? Ah bidding is such sweet sorrow. Pete Davidson divulges how much SNL cast members are paid and it's less than you think so in a recent video roundup for New York magazine the Pete Davidson and SNL co-stars, past and present,

a bunch of cast members through the years. I thought it was cute. Were asked, what was your biggest splurge after your first SNL paycheck? So a lot of people answered the question with their answers, which we'll get to, but he said, do you guys wanna know what they pay us? He said, do you guys know what they pay us?

It's like three grand an episode. I think I got dinner. So by his math, a cast member would make about 54 to $66,000 per year because just remember it's not- Because I was just gonna Google how many episodes they do. Yeah, it's not every single week. But then also it's a platform, you got other jobs. So that's not like the only thing that you're doing.

But after your first big paycheck, you're not really going and buying a Birkin. A lot of people, weirdly, a lot of cast members answered that they bought a couch. That's funny. Paid rent, Louis Dreyfus bought a pair of shoes. Yeah, well, I'm trying to think, that's the starting salary, right?

Like Keenan is getting what? 10, 20? Yeah, and also the people who are like writers and producers like Colin Jost. Right, he wears many hats. He's like obviously paid as a cast member. He's on the show, but he writes a lot of the sketches. I think, is he head writer?

Something. So yeah, I feel like if you're a writer, you actually are on salary. Right, and the question is with your first paycheck. So that's your starting first lowest paycheck you're gonna get, it's about 3K. I feel like it has to be a little bit more if you're like, like I think of like a Bowen Yang

because Bowen Yang, he has a podcast, but he had said with Wicked, you are not allowed to take on other projects while SNL is currently on air. Like you are, and Ariana called Lorne Michaels and was like, listen, please. And like that, I guess they have like a special relationship. Bowen was like, and he got special permission.

But for the most part, like however many weeks it is a year, like you aren't barred from working on anything else. Yeah. Well, I know, but I think Bowen's first season, he made the standard starting entry salary. But then it's like, then you are worth more. Perhaps everyone has different teams and negotiations. Yeah. I never thought of SNL as a really high paying job.

No. I feel like it's one of those jobs. I forget whose book. Oh, it was Keenan's book. Where obviously when he got SNL, it was the craziest thing that ever happened to him. And that first year or two was like, it's not fun. And he was also struggling to stand out.

He wasn't getting writing good sketches. None of them were getting picked up. But yeah, it's a dream job, especially for anyone comedy, but I feel like it kinda sucks. It's not like, you know, the riches. Yeah, and it's not glamorous. It's like six days in a row, you don't go home. You're up until four in the morning.

It's like gritty. It's a grind, you're grinding. Yeah, so the fact that they're not paid well doesn't surprise me. These people become movie stars, TV stars. Sometimes. Most of the time. No, actually, like there's a lot of people

who have come from SNL, but you think about how many castmates there have been, it's not a guarantee. No, it's nothing. Nothing in life is guaranteed, Terri, but like every time you watch any comedy movie, like all the second and third actors are from SNL. Like you can get yourself in a movie

unless everybody hates you. In which case, we're going yourself. It's good therapy, yeah. So interesting fact toy. Yeah, I thought that, was it New York or New Yorker magazine? It was New York magazine. I thought it was cute.

I don't know what the occasion was, but they got together. I feel like they keep celebrating an SNL anniversary, like SNL 50 or 40. It's 50 this year. I remember SNL 40, they had that big star-studded party. Yes, so that was 10 years ago. Why would we remember it so clearly? I feel like there was something much more recent.

Maybe it was 45. No, I think they really only celebrate decades. That would be crazy if they're celebrating every five years. So in 2014, we weren't even doing the show. Why would I remember so clearly a party? I remember though, SNL 40, like 100%. Well, it was happening. Everyone was there, Adam Sandler.

And I think that was maybe one of the first times I realized how many famous people I know because they started on SNL. Like I was shocked at Molly Shan and like how every single funny person got their start. Even this one, I didn't realize Jason Sudeikis was on SNL. I did, but he's done so much since then that he has eclipsed. Sometimes people never, you know, they go on to be famous,

but they're always known for what they did on SNL. Yeah, I feel like Molly Shannon's like that in a, like in a good, but even like Tina Fey and Amy Poehler couldn't be more successful. Like they're so SNL to me. Kristen Wiig. And I guess cause they also like still are always swimming in that pool, whereas Jason Sudeikis is in other pools now.

Right, like Chris Rock was. Yeah, that's one I don't think about. Adam Sandler, of course. I don't think about that. Jimmy Fallon. Seth Meyers. I think on Seth Meyers, actually don't call me on that. There's see, there's a lot, like most of the time and a lot of the time, like you can have big success.

So yeah, he was, oh yeah, he did a, got a grind. We can update. We, oh yeah, that makes sense. Cool, cool. All right, now of course I'm doing famous SNL actors. I'm sure. Will Ferrell. He's so SNL, even though he's also-

Maya Rudolph. So SNL actors. Will Ferrell. He's so SNL, even though he's also- Maya Rudolph. So SNL. Oh, Mike Myers. Pretty SNL. That's like Wayne's world, right? Yeah, Bill Murray. From Groundhog's Day? Yes.

Not so SNL, but I mean- Groundhog's Day, yeah. From, I'm sorry, Caddyshack. Yeah. Fred Armisen and Andy Samberg, classic. Andy Samberg is SNL. Cecily Strong is SNL, but she also, besides the Tristica commercials,

really didn't do much after leaving. But like if she wants a small role in a movie, she's got it. Thousand percent. Molly Shannon, oh, Tracy Morgan. Pretty SNL, but eclipsed. But I guess Tina Fey- He's not SNL because he's TGS.

Yeah, he's the girly show. Julia Louis. This is TGS. TGSS, the girly swirly show. Julia Louis Dreyfus. Yeah, I guess, I don't know if I knew that before I read about the shoes right now. I don't know if I knew that either.

Yeah, because like. Because I think of Seinfeld. And that's pretty much it for, no, it says Robert Downey Jr. No. That's wrong. Yes, even cast members who didn't have a memorable run on SNL have gone on to great,

so people like flop and get fired after a couple of seasons. Like, yeah. But they can still have greatness thrust upon them? Ben Stiller, I guess he was like not great on it. So people don't know him from that, but he's also an epo baby. Interesting. This is like, if you go down,

it's like an interesting rabbit hole. It is. Even like modern- Oh, Eddie Murphy. Yeah, even modern people who like were on five years ago, if they've done something bigger, I kind of forget. Like, yeah, but there's also, we're still like, we're like waiting to see a little bit. Like what does Kate McKinnon go on to do, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, Martin Short, yeah, Robert Downey Jr. Short lived, he only appeared on the show from 85 to 86 one season. He has continued to consistently work after that starring in different films. That's so crazy. I think you could say he's consistently working, yeah. I think you could say he's consistently working, yeah.

I think you could say that for sure. Same with Ben Stiller, I guess he like kind of flopped. Of course, Chris Farley. Of course. And Sarah Silverman, oh she was only on for one season too. She shit the bed. That's so interesting. Yeah.

She only spent one season. Well. It's also interesting to know like, like certain movies, like comedy, like concepts, were born on SNL. Like Superstar. Mary Catherine Gallagher. Superstar.

We loved that movie. Waves were old. Yes, I had no idea Mary Catherine Gallagher was an SNL bit turned into a movie. Yeah. And I guess it makes sense why Will Ferrell was in it. It's such a good movie. So good.

Superstar. All right, that's our show, you guys. Tomorrow will be together, together, together, everyone. So we'll see you then. Thank you so much for listening to The Toast, the Millennial Morning Show. We're reaching the fast-track stories you need to know about many of the Friday on YouTube.

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