The Toast - Summer Charm is Blind: Friday, February 21st, 2025
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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast and happy Friday.
Happy Friday.
She didn't lie.
It's Friday and doesn't even feel like Friday when I've had such an amazing week.
It's such an amazing Friday.
I feel like somebody who says happy Friday in earnest.
Like I wanna walk down the street and say,
happy Friday to my fellow man.
I don't know if I feel like in that good of a mood,
but I definitely feel like I'm saying happy Friday
in earnest, like the weekend is ahead.
I'm sad because I am leaving town today.
My time has come.
She is truly, she already looked for flights to extend.
They are sold out, so she is going.
You know, I'm really going-
Her bags are packed.
Jackie, you took the words right out of her mouth.
She's ready to go, I'm standing here at the studio.
I hate to wake you up to say good morning millennials.
I do love to wake you up to say good morning millennials.
So that's like the only thing putting a damper
on this otherwise party Friday.
Yeah, but we're gonna make the most of it.
We're gonna soak up each other's awesomeness
while we're still together.
I'm gonna soak up your awesomeness.
Now that song is sung by Sheryl Crow, Jewel.
Sheryl Crow, period.
They're all the same, like do you know what I mean?
Like that genre.
I don't know why you would wanna go down
a Sherrod Crowe rabbit hole.
I don't.
I think we did it a few months ago and it was fruitless.
It was a fruitless endeavor.
We also have so much to fucking do today, okay?
I don't wanna talk about Cheryl Crowe, sorry.
No, but here's what I wanna talk about, love is blind.
Cheryl Crowe, the one that dated John Mellencamp
for a half minute.
I ship, I don't know.
No, Meg Ryan. Oh, yeah. All the ship, I don't know. Meg Ryan.
Oh yeah. All the same.
Cheryl Crowe is the Meg Ryan of singing.
We have so much TV to recap today.
We have the Fast Five stories.
I am pretty much, I wanna say like sub 30 minutes,
all caught up on the pod episodes of Love is Blind.
That's so crazy.
Well, I'm all caught up on Southern Charm.
I watched the last two episodes,
the Bahamas are on and Sienna is off.
Let me just tell you.
I saw Sienna was also making some news.
Did you see her TikToks?
She's like sharing receipts, Whitney text messages.
She's like all on TikTok.
No.
That's why for like the Southern Charm stanning you,
you need to get on TikTok.
What is she saying?
What does she have to prove?
You know, this is like not English to me
because I don't watch the show.
So I don't know, but everyone was talking about it.
But like what, the only allegation against her
is just that she doesn't like Shep. Like she just doesn't like him. I don't watch the show. So I don't know, but everyone was talking about it. But like what, the only allegation against her is just that she doesn't like Shep.
Like she just doesn't like him.
I don't think she's fighting that.
I think it has something to do with Whitney.
Whitney had said that they matched on Raya.
He didn't say that like they were together.
He said they matched on Raya.
And I think what she wanted to share
was like text messages from Whitney.
Oh, like maybe Whitney was up her butt
and she wasn't about.
Like maybe it wasn't just like a match on Raya.
Okay, whatever, I actually don't care.
I'll download and send it to you.
Somebody please tag me in it and I'll send it to Jackie.
Okay, thanks very much.
I'll give you a little Southern Charm recap at the end.
I watched a tiny bit of Love is Blind
as I fell asleep last night, but like nothing really
of note, except I did see all the stuff
that you described with the golf and the twerk.
Oh, cringe.
Yeah, and that guy's gonna pick her,
even though the other girl maybe is the better choice,
but like, he's so like, sexed up for her.
Mason, yeah.
Now I pretty much know everyone's names,
which is such a relief, and I do wanna tell you,
like, I'm gonna recap, and you're gonna have to be okay
with the spoilers, because I-
I don't care.
And you know what, maybe you could just skip to episode six,
like, I have to tell you what happened.
I can't do that, just like, I can't like,
change a song in the middle.
I can't just skip over whole episodes.
Once I establish a couples, I can fast forward
through couples I don't like, but I have to do my research.
I'm sorry.
OK, fine.
And I do want to say to the-
But I don't care about the spoilers
because I don't care about the show, so go off Queen.
To the Toasters two days ago who said,
Jackie and Claudia, you can't stop watching it.
One, because we need the recaps, and two,
because it gets better.
I believed you, and I was right.
It does get better.
The show is so good.
It's literally the dumbest, worst people on the planet
being dumb and losery, and that's my joy.
Why I would want to strip that for myself, I don't know.
I'm so happy to be almost caught up.
I haven't gotten to the Instagram thing,
but I can pretty much surmise based on social media.
And this particular season is not amazing,
so I go on Twitter, and I spoil stuff for myself. Usually I'm really precious about that. And this particular season is not amazing, so I go on Twitter and I spoil stuff for myself.
Usually I'm really kind of precious about that.
Not this time.
Yeah, it's a nice freer way to be.
Not constantly duck, dive, dive and dodge in spoilers.
Like, burdened by the shackles of spoilers.
Dive, dive, dive and dodge.
I heard there was some drama this morning on your commute.
There was drama on my commute.
So now that I have my auto park button, like I'm the world was my oyster.
I was like I could drive in New York City.
I can parallel park like Queen go off.
I went to the grocery store and I parallel park just cuts.
Nothing stands in your way.
So this morning I was like I'm going to get the best spot in the whole village.
And the village was popping today.
My spot was gone.
Your spot was gone.
My spot was gone.
The spot that you saved, all the spots were gone.
But then I drive further down the street.
I see cogers and there's a spot behind you.
So I pull up next to coach, I go to my screen
to hit my P button and it's not there.
And the car is not registering that this is a parking spot.
And I can't press the button if it's not registering.
So I think it needs to be like the most obvious,
like foolproof spot in order for that thing to work. And like, those are the spots that we could do. You know, that's when you don't press the button if it's not registering. So I think it needs to be like the most obvious, like foolproof spot in order for that thing to work.
And like, those are the spots that we could do, you know,
that's when you don't need the button.
No, it was very odd that that one
wasn't coming up that first one.
Then I skirted around,
then they told me there was parking in the back
and there is a back entrance.
And it's just like, it's actually probably a few feet closer.
So I tried and I did that.
And then when I was in that parking spot, of course,
everything was coming up P. So I don't I did that. And then when I was in that parking spot, of course, everything was coming up P.
So I don't know what happened.
It definitely like makes me realize that
you can't rely on technology for everything.
Without technology.
But I'll just go back to like parking in the parking lot.
Okay. Right, right.
I heard you also use the P button
in the regular parking lot though.
I did just cause I was like, I wanted to do something.
Like prove yourself piece of shit.
And not only did I use the P button,
it backed into the spot,
which is something I've never been able to do.
So when I get out of here,
skrrt, I'm out.
She could seriously just like cruise out of here.
Yeah, so that was kind of cool,
redeemed itself a little bit,
but no, like embarrassed me in front of my friends,
in front of my coworkers,
everyone that like came out of the building
to watch the self park.
And I was gonna be like, look, ma, no hands.
And I was embarrassed, so no.
That's terrible.
So all in all, it has been a great week of commuting though.
It really has.
Can I totally ask you a random question?
Do you know who Robbie Hoffman is?
No.
I didn't think that you would.
Tell me who he, it sounds like not completely unfamiliar.
So give me a clue.
This is she, that's the first clue.
Okay, I knew that.
Okay.
You know, you've definitely seen.
She did something recently.
She was on The Good Guys.
Okay, no.
What else did she do?
She dates Gabby Windy from The Bachelor.
That's how I know it.
I think they have a podcast together.
People said that you looked like her in your sunglasses.
That's why I was just on her page.
So people this week have been like,
Clare, you look like Robbie Hoffman.
And Ben just met Robbie Hoffman
because she came on The Good Guys
and Ben was obsessed with her.
She's like this former, like really Orthodox Jew
who has like kind of taken on this new era of her life.
She's still actually pretty religious.
They had talked about it,
she's really interesting on Good Guys
and she's in a relationship with Gabby from The Bachelor.
I think that's how a lot of our listeners would know her.
What's her trade outside of being Gabby's girlfriend?
Stand up.
Okay, she's a comedian.
You know, she like has a job.
Okay, because you were just saying
like she's a former Orthodox Jew and Gabby's girlfriend and it's like,, she's a comedian. Yeah, no, she like has a job. Okay, cause you were just saying like she's a former
or they're actually going and Gabby's girlfriend.
And it's like, so how'd she end up on the good guys?
Right, oh, true, true, true, true.
So she is-
It's not like they've even had Gabby.
She has a trade, she has a skill.
Yeah, no, they didn't have Gabby.
And everybody was saying all week that I look like her
cause of the glasses, but I think she wears her hair
in like a low slicked back bun.
Yeah, no, no, I had to go look when they said that
and I saw what they were saying.
It's giving Robbie.
Yeah.
And you know what?
These days if you're comparing me to a thin person,
I'll take it.
Right.
So yes, call me Trabby.
Okay, except be careful with your comparisons
because you just never know when it goes down
in dark slippery slope.
There definitely could have been a time in my life
where people comparing me to Tim Dillon
would have upset me,
like you're comparing me to a man.
That's different, that's different. You're comparing me to a man.
That's different.
You're just wearing sunglasses while podcasting.
They're not saying, you look like him.
And also, I'm less fragile than that these days.
Yeah, but that was different.
That's different than being doppelganger.
No one was saying, Tim Dillon's your doppelganger.
They were just saying you both podcast in sunglasses.
Yeah.
Groundbreaking.
Truly.
Groundbreaking stuff.
And the stories, if you had to describe them.
You know, it was a slow start, but they came together.
That's beautiful.
And Houston, we've got a show.
That was kind of like us this week, a slow start, but we came together.
I actually feel like we came out of the gate with a bang, like all week firing on all cylinders.
Studio, studio, studio.
Studio, studio.
Last week, like a week ago, like we were in Miami. Game's tuned. I'm in Miami, studio, studio. Last week, like we could go like we were in Miami.
I'm in Miami, bitch.
I thought you were gonna say I'm in,
I thought you were gonna literally sing the clean version.
I'm in Miami trick.
I didn't even know that that's the sub.
I just saw the cutest video.
Actually, you know what?
Who gives a shit?
I take back the sentence.
Like the thing is we have so much to do today
that we can't just like go down tangents
about like a cute video that you saw. No, and also like nobody cares about a cute video you saw. Relevance?
Yeah and like I'll tell you there's a little bit more context so I swallowed
the sentence but like I'm not in the mood to get into it. Okay. But like all in all it's
important to know when you're about to say something uninteresting it's never
too late to turn turn the beat around like it's never too late to stop
sharing the uninteresting thing you were about to say.
And I just did that.
I'm woman enough to admit,
not everything I say is interesting.
Especially on a busy Friday
when we're catching flights, not feelings.
You're right.
I'm excited to see Romeo.
Catching little feelings of like missing ya.
Yeah, I didn't get a chance to say goodbye
to like you and Olivia's kids.
I didn't know like the last time I saw the kids
was gonna be the last time.
Cause I really was like, I'll probably extend, you know.
But I didn't and now I'm not gonna see the kids.
It's probably better.
I'm not big on goodbyes.
Well here comes goodbye.
It's more of a see you later.
It's, wait, don't, don't,
Sabrina Carpenter like ruined that.
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.
Don't smile because it's over, cry because it happened. And then she made a song the opposite. Yeah. But Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. Don't smile because it's over,
and cry because it happened. And then she made a song
the opposite. Yeah.
But don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.
We got a beautiful week together.
It's so true.
We went back to the beach yesterday,
so Kristin Cavallari and Steven Coletti coded,
and we had a really nice, lovely time.
We're kind of becoming beach people.
I'm trying to tell you bitches.
I'm in your water sign, of course.
Correct. I'm not, I don't love the ocean like you do, and we do live close to I mean, you're a water sign, of course. Correct.
I'm not, like, I don't love the ocean like you do,
and we do live, like, close to the ocean,
so we should go more.
And I'm definitely...
Open.
Ocean curious.
I love that.
I think...
Oceanic curiosity.
And you're so natural, like, you're really,
you love, like, especially for your kids.
It's true, like, all the vitamins you need
in this world are at the beach.
The salt water's good for your hair, for your skin.
The sun, the vitamin D, the sand,
it's a natural exfoliator.
It's foliant.
It's true.
I'm surprised you don't like the beach more
and all of its free offerings.
It was extra crazy that they closed the beaches
during COVID, like when you think about that.
So true.
Like all we needed, like vitamin D was gonna be
what got you through and instead like we closed it off
and said, staying your house with no sunshine.
I also like didn't know you could close a beach.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, you can't close the air.
No, it was like, it was a bit much.
It was a bit much.
That's another thing about The Wedding People,
the book that I'm really struggling to get through,
is she references the pandemic a little too much for me.
Well, if you listen to the,
if you finish the book and listen to The Redheads,
we discuss that.
And this, do you want me to just spoil for you what we said?
Because one of The redheads was like,
why did you have to talk about the pandemic?
Like, it's really annoying.
Like that's what happened.
What are we just not gonna write books
between 2020 and 2022?
Like we had to live it.
Like we have to like talk about it.
And also some of the things that happened
like during COVID affected people's lives in terms of like-
Right, like the girl in the book.
She was depressed.
She was depressed.
She was the other girl's a COVID bride. She got a divorce.
She became like a bit of an alcoholic.
I just think books that like reference the pandemic
in a real way need to have like a little symbol
on the front.
So I know to stay away from them.
Like, yes, I lived it and that was enough for me.
Those still some of the best years of my life
and I don't want to fucking read about it.
I'm open to things that like represent it in an honest way
about like how it really changed people's lives.
What we're not gonna write books about like World War I
because it's a drag.
I don't think so.
OK, I'm glad you brought that up.
I don't think like people who lived through World War One
were picking up books about it a few years later.
That's what I'll say.
Like time and place.
It's not the time.
Maybe our children will want to read about the pandemic.
I don't think they will.
Like if I were.
People in World War One might have said that, too,
that our grandchildren are going to be reading
about this terrible time.
Yeah.
So anyways, I actually didn't mind considering I don't like reading about the pandemics and
my least favorite books were about it.
But like that's what happened.
We've got to talk about it.
If like you were a young person, if you were like a relatively young person, like during
that time, like your life changed in some way.
Maybe you had a breakup, maybe you had a divorce, maybe you became an alcoholic,
maybe you became a depressed, maybe you're a COVID bride.
Maybe you lost weight, some people lost weight.
Maybe you gained weight.
Well, we did.
So like, I actually liked the way that she did it,
considering it could go either way.
Should we dive in?
To the stirries?
Oh yes, but I also just wanted to say something
about what we were talking about yesterday about the Bebus family because I think after yesterday we thought that that
like was the beginning of the end of the story and like the grieving could begin.
But then last night it came out they've been they were identifying all the bodies that
came back from Gaza yesterday and the babies were positively identified.
The mother's body was not the mother.
It's just some like random woman can't identify who it is.
Doesn't match the DNA of any female hostage,
even though the bodies that are still there.
And then they confirmed this morning, Hamas,
like, yeah, we did that.
Like, it's not her, we know.
Where is she?
I have no fucking idea.
So it's not over.
And I feel like some influencers maybe
like breathed a sigh of relief yesterday
if they got away with never posting about it.
It's not over.
The world needs to put so much pressure
and speak out, like where is Cherie B. Buss?
As much as I saw 40 million people post
All Eyes on Rafa.
All Eyes on Rafa.
They don't even know what that means.
They don't even know what that means
with their AI generated photo.
Bullshit.
Where is Cherie?
Influencers, you are not off the hook.
100%
Speak up now more than ever.
Clock in.
And it came out that also the babies were killed
by their hands.
Like they weren't shot or anything,
like they were killed.
They were murdered with their hands.
Yeah.
A month after they were taken hostage.
So you're not off the hook.
Keep up the energy.
We'll keep up the energy.
How about you guys fucking start?
Yeah.
Cause I'm sick of it.
No, I am too.
I've gone to a lot of performative activism.
Don't pretend to care about anti-Semitism.
If in moments where it really counts, like right now.
Oh, and if you said anything about Elon
and you have not said anything about this,
you're the last person I want to fucking know.
100%.
Like, I'm 100%.
Glad we're aligned.
Do not only speak about anti-Semitism when it serves you
as some sort of social justice warrior.
When Jewish children are murdered by terrorists.
In cold blood.
In cold blood with their own two hands, and you can't speak up,
you actually have an anti-Semitism issue within,
and I highly suggest reflecting on that.
And at the very least, if you have that issue,
don't pretend to care about some made up shit that you saw.
1000%.
Just stay out of it completely.
Yeah.
But hopefully you care a little bit.
No, it's just an upsetting...
That two babies were kidnapped from their home,
their mother is missing.
Ripped from their mother's arms
and killed by like a couple of barbarians.
Not even affiliated with an organized...
Not even like terrorists TM, you know?, not even affiliated with an organized.
Not even like terrorists TM.
Yeah, not like not affiliated with an official terrorist organization in the region.
No, just like local civilians.
Just like spirited, you know, really spirited about their cause.
So yeah.
Now I feel like we can get into the Fast Five stories.
What do you think?
Now, now that that's off my chest.
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Oh that's so funny.
I saw the vision board obviously because Meghan's content is the first thing that pops up for
me and I didn't receive it as a product tease.
I actually didn't even know what I was looking at.
So she teased that she may be releasing a raspberry spread as the first ever product
of her new as ever rebrand.
Oh, that Easter egg went completely over my head.
She took to Instagram Thursday night to share a photo
of her personal memory vision board,
which included three white as ever labels
with raspberry spread written in the center.
She also hinted at the lunch earlier this week
when she had said like jam is her jam.
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The mystery of the jam.
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because there's a lot of clues.
It's like kind of giving Taylor Swift like.
It's a cork board.
It's a cork board with.
Different things pinned to it.
Photos, you know, a real life Pinterest board.
Quotes, trips to the Cape.
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Please. Top left, the biggest thing
that you can read, it says,
farm fresh eggs, carrots two ways, sweet treats.
I just have one question.
How many ways can you eat a carrot?
What kind of business you in?
What kind of business y'all in?
Is this a food company?
Wait, then some of the other things that are written
that we can read.
One, stay close to people who feel like sunshine.
Next, happiness looks gorgeous on you.
Next, you cannot make everybody happy.
You're not a charm, Nutella.
Okay, like now we've entered Chewgalicious territory.
Chewgalicious millennial.
Not to spoil the ending for you,
but everything's going to be okay.
I do like that quote.
So, I love you with all my butt.
I would say my heart, but my butt is bigger.
Oh, risky. Excuse me.
Again, again.
Now, I'm obviously left with questions.
There's also some photos, some that look like stock photos,
others that are like black and white of Megan and her children.
There's a little illustration of what looks to be Megan and Harry
and honestly Bruno right there.
Some pancakes that have like, look like a little man
or a potato head.
California 33, like a highway sign.
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California, natural, green, chewy.
But there is also some TIG throwbacks.
Memorabilia.
Because all of those school cards have the TIG logo
on the bottom. And then another one is like
signature TIG cup and it's a little recipe.
So there's Tigginess.
I really don't know what to say.
Did you see the company that's also named as ever
like getting involved?
That's like so classic.
Of course I did, that's classic.
Honestly, this wouldn't be a story
if they weren't doing that.
And I'm sorry for them, it's giving road.
It is giving, do you know that that company
went out of business?
I do know that because a lot of times
when I'm affiliate linking my road products,
road comes up first and I click it and they're like,
sorry, we're not working anymore.
Yeah, when Hailey Bieber announced her skincare line,
like this dress company named R-H-O-D,
was like, that's our name.
And people don't understand that you actually can have
the same name for a company
if the companies sell different things.
So Meghan's trademark on as ever jams
or whatever the hell it is,
does not infringe on as ever NYC,
which is like a jacket company.
Yeah, but they're like obviously like loving
being the victims, like posting on social media
as Rode did the dress company as well.
It's kind of people's favorite tropes
to play into on social media.
Like, a celebrity stole my brand.
If I had a small business and a celebrity
like name theirs the same,
like it's amazing for your small business.
One, it's great for SEO.
Two, like then you get to make this video,
they stole my brand.
And then everybody like hears about you
and feels sorry for you.
And it's a boost.
Yeah, for sure.
I do feel like it's a trope that's getting a little tired,
at least for me.
Yeah, when I saw it, I didn't even really write it.
So I'm like, of course there's as ever.
Any word there, someone's trademarked it somewhere.
Unless it's like your name, like Monique Lulier.
I'm sorry, road.
No, like your first and last name, Monique Lulier.
Like, okay, that one you can have.
But what if two women aren't named Monique Lulier?
You can't have your own name. And they both wanna be business owners. It's just like, I one you can have. But what if two women aren't named Monique Lulier? You can't have your own name.
And they both wanna be business owners?
It's just like, I think it's rare.
What if they both wanna make dresses?
Well, they can't, that's the point.
If they're doing the same category.
And that's tough.
Now, this vision board for me did not really help
in what I'm seeking, which is clarity
on what the hell this brand is,
because it's kind of giving hodgepodge. It clarity on what the hell this brand is, because it's
kind of giving hodgepodge.
It's giving the word salad of brands, like a lot of lettuce, a lot of produce, no meat.
You have to think about how much money went into this one particular post in terms of
creative agencies that they hired, social media strategy companies, social media managers,
actually physically making the board.
And it makes me sad because I don't know what the intended effect was,
but it is not reading at least for me.
But sound off in the comments,
how did you interpret this kind of Picasso?
To me, it's congruous with the mishmash of branding
and words and verbiage that she's put out
up until this point.
And until there's a product, something tangible,
I will continue to ask the question.
Never stop asking why.
Never stop asking what kind of business you win.
Like people need to be able to answer that question.
And can you, could let's make a prediction.
Like, is this a jam company?
Is that what it's supposed to be the whole time?
It's not just jam.
I feel like people don't get that.
What about the final jam?
Do you think they'll be serving jam?
Like this is the first jam.
And I think hopefully the final jam would be in years to come.
I think it's wares, okay?
Wares.
Oh, W-A-R.
I thought you were about to ask me a question.
It's wares, jams.
And?
Carrots two ways. Oh right, I forgot. Carrots two ways. Oh, right. I forgot. Carrots two ways.
I think it's jams, recipes, sweet treats.
Jams, right?
The thing is everything else is like extremely fresh.
Like, are they coming to your house to buy it?
Jams are obviously preserved.
So that can be sold mass market, but like, is she going to can other things?
I think the carrots was like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes.
I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes. I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes. I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes. I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes. I think the carrots were like more a nod towards recipes. Am I coming to your house to buy it? Jams are obviously preserved. So that can be sold mass market,
but like, is she gonna can other things?
I think the carrots was like more a nod towards recipes.
Like I think the TIG element will be a part of her company.
Like will be some sort of like push goop
online web digital recipe curator.
Or a cookbook eventually.
But I don't wanna buy your cookbook
until I've seen what you make.
And the Netflix show is launching when?
In March.
And then would the cookbook be called
With Love, Megan or As Ever, Megan?
With Love, I don't know.
With Ever As Love, Megan.
I'm stumped.
And I don't think that was the intended effect.
That's the thing.
I think that they hired all these different
social media companies to tell us what's going on.
I feel like when you are a brand,
you have to put out a bunch of things
that you do in your business,
but then also nonsense, just content,
things that look nice. But not on date two.
And this is every single Instagram post
that they could ever post it like on one board.
Yeah, they kind of shut their load.
And seeing it all together like shows you
that they're actually not saying anything
and they actually don't stand for anything.
They have no unique point of view.
Well, as always with Megan and her companies,
we'll just have to wait and see.
No, I do think it's unique to think
that happiness looks gorgeous on you.
I feel like that's not universal.
Is that why you started a podcast with me?
Stay close to people who remind you of sunshine?
Exactly.
Me and my dark sunglasses, my black shirt,
my black hair, my black pants.
You feel like sunshine.
You feel like sunshine to me.
My eternal sunshine.
So another day.
Another clue.
Another clue.
Less clarity.
More clues, less clarity.
It was Megan in the kitchen with a knife. With a knife. Another clue, less clarity. More clues, less clarity.
It was Megan in the kitchen with a knife. With a carrot.
With a mason jar.
With love.
As ever.
So we should wait and see.
As always, Queen Papa. As ever we shall wait and see. As always, Queen, Papa. All right.
As ever, we shall wait and see.
Orchard.
Are you ready for our next story?
Everyone's really excited about this.
Nobody Wants This season two has cast Leighton Meester
and Miles Fowler.
Leighton Meester, the real life wife of Adam Brody,
who's in Nobody Wants This, has been cast in season two
of Nobody Wants This and obviously she's an acclaimed actress,
country strong, gossip girl.
She will actually be playing Abby,
who is Kristen Bell's middle school nemesis
who is now an Instagram mommy influencer.
10 out of 10 idea.
I love this for so many reasons.
One, like the gossip girl connection
between Kristen Bell and, do you think they ever met?
Like during the gossip girl days?
Probably like at premieres.
Yeah, because Kristen Bell was just doing voiceover work,
so she probably was never on set.
She was in LA.
So there's that millennial connection.
Of course, it's her husband's show.
Also, these two people just lost their house.
They kind of need work.
No, this is amazing for the Fosters,
because we were just saying, get Leighton back in the game,
and now she's going to be on this hit show.
She'll get to be with her husband, work with her husband.
She's a great actress.
I love this role, sounds great.
Like I actually might watch,
this season two sounds so good,
I might watch season one now.
Oh, you don't watch it?
No.
That's so weird of you.
I know, I talk about it all the time.
You literally talked about it yesterday.
I know.
No, you have to watch it.
It was really, I told you, it was like really cute and good.
The reason why I don't watch it is because I'm, I told you, it was really cute and good. The reason why I don't watch it
is because I'm worried I won't like it.
Because you hate everything?
No, I just seen and heard some stuff
and I'm worried I wouldn't like it,
but I want to like it, so it's better
if I don't confirm that. I don't mind.
I can tell you it was good.
Like I really enjoyed it. Would I like it?
The thing is, what mood are you in?
You're so unpredictable.
If you watch it with your husband,
I think your husband would really like it.
My husband liked it too. And he, I think, I don't in? You're so unpredictable. Like if you watch it with your husband, like I think your husband would really like it. My husband liked it too.
And he, I think, I don't know, you're so unpredictable.
You're kind of just like this firecracker.
But I like like lighthearted fare.
That's what it is.
I don't think it's, would I like it?
The thing is we are-
So you can't even say.
And the thing is I wanna like it.
Because we're so protective and like critical
of anything that represents Judaism in modern media
because it's overwhelmingly bad. But I trust Aaron Foster. And like obviously if it was my show, So protective and like critical of anything that represents Judaism in modern media, because
it's overwhelmingly bad.
But I trust Aaron Foster.
And like, obviously, if it was my show, I could have like made different things about
the Judaism.
But overall, it wasn't offensive at all.
And I thought it painted us in a nice light.
Okay, so I think now I will watch it.
But I'm just letting you know up until this point, I was like worried about that.
So I said, maybe it's better if I don't watch it and I can just like talk about it.
And like, if I didn't not like it, then I liked it.
No, no, I think you'll like it.
And I'm looking forward to season two as well.
And because I need to see the podcast.
Now it's come up in my life so many times.
Yeah, and their podcast really takes off
over the course of the show,
so now they're big time magazine editors.
Life imitating art.
Oh, so I like that Leighton Meester is joining the show
because now she's gonna be forced to do press
with her husband and like we get nothing from them.
They're like so private.
And now they're probably gonna be doing like junkets
and things.
Yeah.
And then, well, and then Miles Fowler's the other person
who was cast and he is a matzah baller's teammate
who gets set up with Morgan who's Justine Loop
from Succession and Luckiest Girl Live.
Who is she in Luckiest Girl Live?
The best friend in the city.
Oh yeah.
So he's playing someone who dates her?
Get set up, who knows what happens next.
Okay, okay, and matzah ballers,
is that like their bowling link?
Is that his teammate that's not a basketball?
Oh yeah, yeah, he plays like intramural, that was funny.
That's classic.
That's so classic, like Jewish guy playing intramural,
you get like a local high school
basketball. 100% yeah, I forgot about the matzah ballers. My husband is a matzah baller. It's called Hale, the league. I feel like you told us something about Hale one time. Well, there's two,
there's Hale and Rale, the two different Jewish schools. Ben is actually, the thing that I said
is that, so there's the alumni intramural league, Hale, for two different schools, Hale and Roehl.
Ben went to Hale, I went to Roehl.
And if you're an alumni of that school,
you can join the league.
And what about as an alumni husband, does he get to join?
No, when I met him, he was in Roehl.
I'm like, you're in my Alumni Intramural League,
how did you get in there?
You know, Ben, like Swindler, Net Worker,
and it turns out the commissioner,
they take it really seriously.
The commissioner of Roehl,
my high school's Alumni Intramural league is Abe,
who I talk about all the time, his brother.
So like we had a nepo connection.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, I think also like the league is expensive to run.
And if anybody wants to pay like the fee,
like you're welcome to come.
Yeah, my husband just joined an intramural basketball
all week down here.
Yeah, he plays all the time.
He comes back with like black and blue marks.
He's like a fight broke out. He came home early, like early ish because he was
like, it was usually going later. He came home early ish. I was like, what happened?
He was like a fight broke out. I had to leave. Okay. Actually, did I tell the story on the
toast? I don't know. The last time Ben, um, so there's, there's the season, so it's not
all year round. So Ben does like pickup games. A lot of the gyms in the city have basketball courts.
And like if you show up, like there's usually a game going on.
And Ben got invited to a game.
Oh yeah, did I tell the story on the toast?
I don't know.
And Ben got home early.
I'm like, wait, what happened to your game?
This is what happened to me.
And he was like, I literally walked off the court.
I'm like, oh, drama, like tension.
He's like, no, somebody call me Tubby.
And I'm like, what?
He was like, yeah, and I wanted to like start a fight. I'm like, what am I doing here? And he just left. I'm like, that. He's like, no, somebody called me tubby. And I'm like, what? He was like, yeah, and I wanted to start a fight.
I'm like, what am I doing here?
And he just left.
I'm like, that's very mature of you,
but I seriously would have beat the crap out of the guy.
And it was someone we loosely know,
because it was Ben's friend, this guy.
Text who?
I don't know, I have to remember,
but I hadn't heard of him,
but he was from the community.
Somebody called him tubby.
That's really crazy.
It's like they act like they're not gonna see each other
at the grocery store tomorrow morning. No, Ben literally was like, it was so mature. I'm like, what are you doing home early? He's like, I like they're not gonna see each other at the grocery store tomorrow morning.
No, Ben literally was like, it was so mature.
I'm like, what are you doing home early?
He's like, I walked off the court,
like there was some drama.
I'm like, what was the drama?
Like I assumed it didn't involve him.
He was like somebody that called me fat.
I'm like, what?
I'm sorry, he needs to stay and fight.
Yeah, and then we were like looking at the guy.
I don't know him, but I was like looking up his social media
like literally I wanted to dox him.
Like I was so mad. That is so crazy. See, there's drama. Anyways, that's very real, I wanted to dox him. Like I was so mad.
That is so crazy.
See, there's drama.
Anyways, that's very real, I was to say.
It's very real.
So I'm very excited about this casting,
and I do think that I'm going to watch.
Yeah, I think you should.
We bump them up on the CP.
I think you should, on the content plate.
And I will support anything the Foster's do
from now until the end of time.
Yes.
Period.
Also, the Foster's have been like making news.
They're adapting Tink's upcoming book into like,
I don't know if it's a TV show or a movie,
but it's like a sexy smut book about like a hot girl
in the Hamptons, a love.
Her book hasn't come out yet and they've already optioned it.
Given their stamp of approval.
Yeah, so I'll support that too.
So can't wait to give them my money.
I don't give a fuck.
I'll support the Foster no matter what.
All of them, David too.
You know what?
I have a question for the Foster sisters,
because you know who I've never met?
Simon, Aaron's husband.
OK.
And I feel like he must be this amazing guy
because Aaron converted for him.
No, and she wrote a show about him.
Wrote a show.
And the whole family like loves him so much.
Like Sarah's always posting.
And I'm like, he must be an amazing guy.
I'm sure he's an amazing guy.
Yeah.
With an amazing girl. 100%. Our he's an amazing guy with an amazing girl.
100%.
Our next story is some really shocking news.
I'm gonna be shocked.
I don't know if you're ready for this.
I'm not.
The actor who played Daniel Meade
has been arrested for battery
and a shocking mugshot is accompanying this story.
For anybody, oh my God, give me the iPad.
Daniel Meade is in The Slammer.
Ugly Betty.
For anyone who doesn't, if you don't watch Ugly Betty,
first of all, like go do it, I think it's on Hulu.
He plays the guy who like hires Betty
and gives her a chance and he's like the best guy.
He's like the Snippo baby.
Caleb Nicholson.
Oh my God, if you're watching on YouTube,
I'm showing everyone the mugshot.
Time has not been kind to Daniel Meade.
You would have thought it would be because-
He's a handsome guy.
He's a handsome guy and like, I would just just say he has a black eye in the photo.
He also looks like a resident of Whoville.
Maybe his face is just like swollen.
He got punched or something.
Yeah, he also looks like he could use a Gua Sha which I'm feeling a little self-conscious
about sending Gua Sha on my face this morning.
Everyone's talking about it.
And what are the circumstances of his arrest?
Who did he assault? I will let you know. That's talking about it. And what are the circumstances of his arrest? Who did he assault?
I will let you know.
That's seriously so random.
What also is his name?
So he was arrested in Florida on Thursday morning for battery
and resisting an officer without violence.
He was taken into custody by officers from the Nassau County
Sheriff's Department.
Nassau County, that's New York.
I know, but it literally says Florida.
At 2 13 a.m. local time after allegedly being involved in a
bar fight with a woman,
per the arrest report obtained by the Post,
he was then booked into the Nassau County jail.
Oh, Nassau County is also a county in Florida.
Oh, okay, I figured.
Nassau County Jail and Detention Center at 5.45 a.m.
on the two misdemeanors.
The actor appeared to have sustained injuries
in the alleged bar brawl as his mugshot showed him
with a bruise on the corner of his right eye.
And for those-
It's like near Jacksonville area, if anybody cares.
Who want to see like, this is Daniel Meade as we know him.
Correct, wearing an ascot.
Before and after.
Damn, I mean, I guess.
And he's also like kind of in every show.
Like he's very much like it.
Yeah, he's in like a bunch of random shit.
That's classic him.
Maybe, I mean, being on a show like Betty
is such a curse, right?
Blessing and a curse, because it was like eight years,
I'm sure it was very high paying,
it was so popular at the time, it like lives in infamy.
And a lot of them went on to do great things,
America Ferrera, I've Got Beef Between My Teeth, Justin.
And didn't know me, Judith Light, Vanessa Williams,
like really star studded.
Rebecca Romaine.
Rebecca Romaine, my favorite.
Caleb Nicholl. And Mark of. Rebecca Romaine, my favorite.
Caleb Nichol.
And Mark of Mark and Amanda just won an Emmy
for something.
He's in a show that I don't watch.
And now they have their podcast.
They have their podcast and he's in Younger.
He was the book agent.
So like everybody's booked and busy except for Daniel Meade.
Yeah.
So maybe that's what led to this turmoil?
According to the arrest report, he was at the bar with a female friend who was asked
several times by the bartender and other patrons to leave because she was continuously being
disrespectful. The situation turned nasty when the woman allegedly began spitting on
people before turning to the alleged victim as if she was going to spit on her. When the alleged
victim told the woman that she needed to leave, the woman started shoving her per the report.
That's when the Cruel Intentions actor,
I guess he was also in Cruel Intentions,
allegedly jumped into the altercation,
knocking both his companion
and the alleged victim to the ground.
What's his name in real life?
Eric Mabeus.
The alleged victim told officers that,
yeah, that's also a good detail to know.
Oh, by the way, classic Cruel Intentions, yeah.
That, and he was in like Dirty Sexy Money or whatever.
Oh, I never watched that show,
but yeah, he was on a rise to fame
when like those sitcom type like ABC, NBC.
Yeah, he had like definitely had a contract with ABC
and they were like, this is our next big star.
Put him in.
So he allegedly jumped into the altercation,
knocking them to the ground.
The alleged victim told officers
that while she was on the floor,
Eric got on top of her-
He's the positive football player in Cruel Intentions.
Eric got on top of the alleged victim
and was pulling her hair,
ripping a handful of her hair from her scalp.
Multiple people at the bar then pulled him
and his friend off the victim.
Okay, because at first when you started reading,
it sounded like he was being a hero.
Like his friend was being like obnoxious,
but he was defending his girlfriend.
But then his girlfriend wanted to spit on another patron,
and the patron was like, can you fuck all the way off?
And instead of escorting his friend out,
he decided to beat up this woman.
Yeah, like he joined in.
It was like a girl fight and he joined in.
That's so embarrassing.
Oh my God.
That's really awful.
Cause we were just talking about bar fights
as it pertained to Zach Brian.
And I feel like when you're a man doing bar fights,
like you really need to limit your opponents to other men
who are like stocky and short like you.
I didn't even know that this was like an option.
Yeah, me neither.
Cause there's etiquette around like an appropriate bar fight
and how to like come out looking like a man.
And when I think about bar fights,
I think about, of course Snooki, she was punched by a man.
That's why it was so unacceptable.
It brought the whole house together.
Despicable.
Despicable.
Oh my God, Daniel Mead,
so important to separate like the act from the actor.
What are you looking at?
There's a fly.
You haven't noticed it the whole time?
No, it's like that episode of Breaking Bad.
I know.
But you want sunglasses?
I can't see the fly.
No, no, no, it comes in and out.
Oh, here he is.
Here, here, here.
Take a pair.
You love those sunglasses.
I do.
And I tried on a new pair today.
They always find their way back to me.
I actually don't like this look.
They really fit your, ugh.
Like I'm not feeling it, but thank you
and that would give me a migraine.
I don't know how you do it.
It is a little dark in here.
No, but the tightness of the sunglasses
with the tightness of the headphones.
Oh, I just like have all my ailments right now.
I haven't even focused on my head.
I guess my head is throbbing.
Yes, thank you for pointing that out.
Our fourth story.
Are you ready for our fourth story?
Yeah.
Okay.
Angela Bassett defends her disappointed thing.
She did the thing by looking disappointed after she lost the Oscar to Jamie Lee Curtis and she is
talking about that moment. So I kind of am loving this reaction. She's not apologizing for her viral
reaction after the Oscars lost to Jamie Lee Curtis. After two years of facing criticism for her facial
expression when Jamie won and she didn't,
she defended the look. She said, I found it interesting.
Interesting that I wouldn't be allowed to be disappointed at an outcome where I thought I was deserving.
I love applauding people, but in that moment, I have put in, put in the time, put in good work over time.
I didn't think that was a gift. I thought it was a given.
So she said, like, this is exactly what we're saying.
Like she thought she deserved to win. She didn't think that was a gift, I thought it was a given. So she said, like this is exactly what we're saying, like she thought she deserved to win, she didn't win,
ergo disappointment, and that's what showed on her face,
and she's allowed to have that emotion.
Yeah, normalized, like being nominated for an award
and wanting to win it.
I just feel like up until this point,
people in Hollywood have really been conditioned to say,
like, it's just an, I think you have to be so gracious
when you lose, and like, it's okay to want things
for yourself, and feel like you earned them after hard work.
And I love that she's saying what we had said,
but she's saying it like in a much more eloquent way.
And like, yes, that's exactly what I was saying
when we were talking about Kacey Musgraves
and then Luke Combs.
It's been coming up a lot.
It's okay to want things for yourself.
It doesn't make you a bad person.
And I actually feel like when celebrities
don't have emotions over these awards
and like the person who wins, it's kind of just expected and everyone else just sits there.
It invalidates the legitimacy of the award show.
Cause it's like, is it, do you never expect to win?
Like, I don't know.
I feel like when people actually like have hopes
and they think they might win and then they don't win,
it makes it more real as opposed to like,
when everyone's just like, oh yeah,
that person's gonna win because these things aren't the circumstance.
Yeah, no, it's a competition.
Like everybody wants to win things.
So I like that.
I like that, too.
And I didn't know that this is obviously like her Roman Empire, right?
Like the year she was nominated, I guess was a really big deal because she was nominated for like a Marvel movie, Black Panther,
which those movies don't really typically get like lead actor nominations.
First lead actor nominee for for a Marvel film. An Oscar, yeah.
Which would have just been a huge deal.
So like it's okay to wanna make history.
Like why would anybody, I hate this whole thing.
Like just if I ever ever in my life got nominated
for an award and I didn't win, like I'm mad.
And you're gonna know, like I'm gonna be upset.
I'm not also gonna be confused.
I'm gonna be like, she sucks.
Yeah, and both for actors, but also musicians,
it's like you get the part, you do the work, you do so good, you're so close,
and then if you don't win, it's like,
you have to do it all over again if you wanna win it.
Same for an actor, musician who writes an album.
It's like, I put my years worth of experiences
into an album, produced it, da da da,
put it out, marketed it, sang it, went on tour,
didn't win, I have to do it again if I want it.
The cycle starts over.
If I want it, if I want that,
I have to do all that over again.
Yeah, so I champion this sort of rhetoric
and I'm just like, maybe it's the Bonnie Blue in me,
but I'm just really over supporting people, you know?
But then when I think about it that way
and that really exhausts me,
like thinking we have to do it again to win the award,
then I'm like, let's put less stock in these awards
because you just, look at you, things you did did all of that and you're gonna let that get you
down when it's like not even a fair playing field to begin with. That's why
also those awards are tough because these are like different arts and they're
subjective. Like who's to say that one movie is better than the other? Everybody
has their own opinions where it's like if other competitive things like sports
like there's an outcome like the winner has more points, it's more linear, whereas like putting so much stock
in the opinions of these freaks who are like,
you know, totally lining their pockets.
Lining.
It's so political and it's so subjective
that like, even if you win, it's like, says who?
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Oh, we also have Queenie and Weenie of the Week.
I forgot to say that at the top of the episode.
We do, we do, and that's why the fifth
and final story is TV recaps.
Okay, you wanna go first or second?
I'll go first, because like Summer House
is very much in the news.
It's called Southern Charm.
Summer Charm.
Southern Charm is very much in the news right now,
so I watched the last two episodes,
and I'm glad that I did, because the first episode
was just like them traveling down to the Bahamas,
preparing to see Sienna, they land at the airport,
Shep's like calling.
My phone is talked to texting.
Recap first house is very much,
it's called Southern Charm, Southern Charm Summer House
in very much in the news right now.
Watch the last two episodes.
It's your worst nightmare.
Sorry, okay.
It's your worst nightmare come true.
Okay, go, go, sorry.
So they land at the airport.
So the thing with Shep and Sienna,
it's like they're seeing each other.
They're not, Shep is exclusive,
but he hasn't had the conversation with her.
She goes like days, I guess,
without answering his text messages.
And it's like, she's just not that into you,
but he takes the whole cast down to the Bahamas.
So she's kind of like hosting and ghosting.
I think they should have titled the episode that,
but they didn't ask me.
That's a good title.
Thank you.
So he gets to the airport.
He has to call her three times before she picks up. Cause like she should be like meeting them at the airport. Of course, sending a car title. Thank you. So he gets to the airport, he has to call her three times before she picks up, because
like she should be like meeting them at the airport.
Of course, sending a car?
Right.
No, then she's like, I'll meet you at the hotel at like 645 before they're going to
dinner.
Where do they stay?
They're staying at the Bahamar.
The boys have like a presidential suite and the girls have a suite.
And actually, I'm loving the group of girls together.
Taylor's like getting you can see she's like making friends.
So it's Taylor, Madison, my queen.
I just want to say Madison LaCroix is my queen.
It just in case I don't find a way to work that in later.
My queen.
Agreed.
Taylor, Madison, Molly, love.
Molly.
And Sally Ann growing on me.
So it's just the four of them
because Vanita missed her flight
and so she'll be there tomorrow.
But the girls are like really getting along in there.
Not a good season for Vanita.
She drowned and she missed her flight.
Yeah, and she got turned down by JT.
Oh, right.
So the four of them are getting along and having fun,
even though it's like so weird
because Taylor used to date Shep.
Molly has a crush on Shep.
Shep is there with his new girlfriend.
Shep, we're all there for Shep's new girlfriend.
Taylor's new boyfriend used to date Sally Anne.
Okay.
Taylor hooked up with Austin who used to date Madison.
So like-
Yeah, it's very incestuous.
All the girls like the same guy.
That's why the show is good by the way.
That's what the Vanderpump rules ecosystem
was like for a while.
But we're also all there to meet Sienna
and she comes up to the boy's suite like right before dinner
they're like having a couple of drinks
and Shep wants to talk to her.
Oh my God, Claudia, it was the most painful thing.
He's wearing his like fisherman clothes because he's like Sienna will help me get dressed
Like I need her help to get any dress like this girl is not your girlfriend
And she doesn't want to be your girlfriend. You should show up like looking nice
So it's like first of all she comes and meets the guys and Craig is like
I've never felt energy like that from another human being like I had to leave
I said I'm going to check on the reservation like I couldn't I, I can't even explain. Like the energy was so off.
I don't even know what he's talking about,
but like I will believe him.
You had to be there to feel it.
Yeah.
So then the boys go downstairs.
He's in the room with Sienna, like trying,
he was like, let's go to my room
and you can help me get dressed.
And so his room was like a mess too.
And it's like weird, cause he's like,
Craig's brushing his hair.
They're so nervous to see Sienna.
And you're supposed to be like impressing this girl.
Right, I don't know why he would leave his room a mess.
Like he should know better than that.
But literally, Craig was brushing his hair
because he had had hair.
Like, they're so nervous to see Sienna.
Yeah.
She picks out an outfit for him.
I kind of like how she's like, ruling them with an iron fist.
Like, they're afraid.
By doing nothing.
Yeah.
She picks.
It's a powerful thing.
Literally, she picks out an outfit for him.
Like, oh, yeah, that's really great.
She don't give a fuck.
Oh, he's like, OK, I'll put it on.
So she's like, OK.
And she leaves to let him try it on. His face drops because he's like, why won't you let your girlfriend can see you naked?
Right, Claudia. I've never seen this man's face like this in my whole time ten seasons of Southern charm like his face drops
He's crestfallen that she's leaving the room and he's like don't leave
Claudia, it was so crazy. Okay, but like this is kind of the journey Shep needs to go on. I mean, that's what everyone says.
Being humbled.
It's a taste of his own medicine.
Like every girl that he's ever been with,
he never gave them enough.
Feels like that.
And they always felt like that.
Even Madison is like,
he came after my relationship with Austin
for so many years.
Of course I love seeing him go through it.
And I love poking at him too.
Even though they're like fine now.
Yeah.
It's just a taste of his own medicine.
It's karma, yeah.
And as Taylor said, it doesn't taste so good.
Yeah, I agree.
So then they have this like really weird conversation
where he tells her that he's in love with her,
which he's already told her that.
And then they're like, we'll talk rest later.
So they go downstairs and have dinner
with the rest of the group.
And like on TV, it looked okay.
But then the next day when the rest of the cast
were recapping it, they were like, it was so weird.
Her vibes are just like so weird.
They don't know what she wants.
And I think she obviously doesn't want to be with Shep.
She's 26, he's 46.
I think like she's 26, he's 46.
Shep Rose is 46 years old.
That's what they said on the episode.
Maybe it's like 43, but that's what Madison said.
Shep Rose age.
I will be 44.
Okay.
It's a little different than 46, but that's really crazy.
Yeah.
So like, obviously that's not his person.
Yeah.
And then the following episode, Vanita comes, Whitney comes, Ryan, classic Ryan.
It's Rodrigo's husband.
Who's Rodrigo's husband.
Who's Rodrigo?
He's like-
I only know the major players.
He's been on the seasons for,
I never can remember his name,
but then last night I committed it to memory.
I was like, Olivia Rodrigo.
Okay.
So now we have Rodrigo and Ryan.
We're waiting for JT to arrive.
That will be, you know, a bag of fun.
But they're just having like a good time.
It's definitely weird.
Austin and Craig are like still fighting,
like just being girly.
Cause like they hate each other.
And that's about it.
Let's see what happens next.
Yeah. Molly's just like waiting in the wings.
Yeah, of course.
She's just going to be there like a shoulder to cry on.
My queen, she couldn't go out.
She had a migraine.
Meanwhile, she was just hung over,
but like that, that does manifest as a migraine sometimes.
So I see you.
So let me tell you about Southern charm.
Love is blind, excuse me.
I was really close to giving up.
We need Love is Blind Charleston, but okay, continue.
We do, that's a great call.
But there's a couple of like Love Triangles, Love Rhombuses
that now that I know who the players are
and they're clearly like leaving people behind
and then we know who we're gonna be following this season,
it's a lot easier to follow.
So the first Love Triangle rhombus is Madison.
With Ben Platt and Mason.
With Ben Platt and Mason.
Now she very clearly likes Ben Platt better.
You think?
Yes, and in the episodes that I watched last night,
she chooses Ben Platt.
Well, that's good for the show
because that leaves Mason to choose the other girl.
Just wait, okay.
So Madison opened up,
she didn't say that she had experienced
bouts of depression,
but she said there are periods
where I really have no energy and I can't get out of bed
and I forget things.
It was just like, she struggles with depression.
And he was like, not supportive.
She was like, is that gonna be an issue for you?
And he was like, I don't know.
Oh, when she said that she was avoidant personality?
No, they worked through that.
Okay, okay. They're so therapy talk.
I was like, did I miss that?
I was on my phone.
I was on my phone so much.
I actually, me and Ben rewinded twice
because he was being weird. We were like, wait, what is he being weird about? She said on my phone. I was on my phone so much. Actually, me and Ben rewinded twice because he was being weird.
We're like, wait, what is he being weird about?
She said avoidant and then I picked up my head back up
and he got weird.
So I was like, what'd I miss?
Yeah, so, but it's very obvious that she likes him more.
And she's like going around,
like telling Mason that he's playing two girls.
She's literally like the thing that she's mad at.
She is, it's been very clear to me
that she likes Ben Platt better.
And it's her and Ben Platt told each other that.
So like, she goes to break up with Mason
and she's being so manipulative and patronizing,
being like, you had two good things
and you might've lost both.
You don't even care, you don't like him.
And then she's speaking on behalf of the other girl
and the other girl really likes him,
ant farm girl, Meg.
So when she gets back to the lounge and she's like,
I told him like he might lose.
Oh, she's ant farm.
Yes, she actually grew on me a lot.
I like her energy.
She gets back to the lounge and she was like,
yeah, I told him he might lose both of us.
And she's like, wait, what?
Like, I like him.
She's just being nuts and she's like coming at it
from such like a moral high ground.
I actually really do not like her anymore.
Yeah, you can tell there's a little crazy there.
Yes, and I actually think her and Ben Platt
are perfect for one another.
I actually think they're not.
So the craziest love triangle, it gets resolved.
So does Ben propose to Madison?
Did they get engaged?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So is Mason gonna go with Sarah?
So then, yeah, thank you, I'm all over the place.
Meg is her name.
So Mason, when he's getting broken up with,
he does the classic thing.
He's like, you know what, I shouldn't have validated you and committed myself to you
because once I said it, it really didn't feel right.
I think Meghan's my girl.
Okay, say what you need to say.
And Madison was like, sure.
And then he said that to Meg and she was like,
I know she wanted to believe it because she really likes him
but she had too much respect for herself
and I really respected it.
She was like, no, I'm sorry, I'm out.
I just don't believe you.
I don't want to be the winner by default.
That's the one thing I promised myself when I come here is like, I want to be chosen by someone.
And like, you literally, textbook definition,
did not choose me.
So it was like a painful conversation.
Wow, no one ever does that.
I know, so I had, because they just want to be on TV.
Of course.
So I had a lot of respect for her.
And I know that was, she really liked him,
but I think she dodged a fucking bullet.
Oh, I actually think they might have been a good match,
except then he might have seen Madison in Guatemala.
Jackie, because the second he saw
that he wasn't gonna get Madison,
like he was giving major thirsty vibes.
Like if he was a girl, we would have been like,
ew thirsty, she wants it, that's him, ick.
But I just wanna say that situation was interesting
because it's like if he had chose Madison
and then saw Meg on vacation,
like he would have been like, ooh, Meg.
And even if he chose, and if he chose Meg,
like they were the same level of attractiveness.
And I feel like his head would have been turned
no matter what, because he just like,
couldn't make a choice.
And that's like, it's not because one of them
is more beautiful than the other,
they're actually exactly as beautiful as the other.
So then my personal favorite love triangle
was D-Buck, B-Dot and Virginia.
Okay.
And it was pretty clear to me
that Devin liked Britanny more.
Maybe we were just seeing more of their conversations,
but they really had like such a good friendship
and with the basketball connection.
And then this date happens
where two insane things happen.
The first is that she shares that she like is attracted to
and like sees women, but she'll never marry a woman. The first is that she shares that she is attracted to
and sees women, but she'll never marry a woman and that's not how she sees her life.
But he was like, but you're interested in women.
She was like, kind of feel like she was still figuring out
her journey and you could just tell the second,
he was not into it.
People have their preferences and that's just not his.
You could tell he stopped liking her in that minute.
But I think-
B.
B.
But they have a really good friendship.
Like I actually think because they have
a really common interest.
I think that's more that we were seeing,
like they were really good buddies.
He decides to open up to her
about something that he went through.
And we watch him tell this story
and we actually watch him say it twice
because he also says it to Virginia,
the other girl he likes.
And the first time I heard it,
I was like, I must have missed something
because I'm on my phone so much.
The show is so dreadful that when the time came
that he starts telling Virginia the story,
I put my phone down and I listened completely.
And I said, oh my God, no, I did hear that right.
And then I also went to Twitter
to see if anybody else was talking about it.
Now the story starts, it's kind of a tale as old as time.
It was reminding me a lot of Demon Copperhead.
He's an athlete.
I think he wanted to play professional basketball, maybe go to college, get a scholarship. And when he was in of time, it was reminding me a lot of Demon Copperhead. He's an athlete. I think he wanted to play professional basketball,
maybe go to college, get a scholarship.
And when he was in high school,
he suffered a really bad back injury.
And that's literally how it starts in Demon Copperhead.
So many young guys and girls in that region.
It was getting Demon Copperhead.
So he went to all these doctors,
nobody could help him.
And so he started to self-medicate,
like as a lot of people do.
And he's self-medicating and he's having really dark thoughts
and he starts taking two Advil and then four Advil
and then six Advil and I'm waiting for him to say it
and then I switched to Percocet and Vicodin.
No, then I take 10 Advil a day and then I take 12.
And then a couple months in,
I find myself I'm taking 20 Advil a day.
And he's saying, I'd be profan, I'd be profan.
And I'm like, so you're taking Advil?
Like, you're taking Tylenol,
like that's what your overdose is.
So I'd be profan.
Jackie's telling the story, he's crying Britanny
when she's hearing the story, choking on her sobs.
Oh, oh, and I'm like, I'd be profan.
I'm like, are we, ibuprofen?
Are we talking about Advil? And me and Ben are like looking at each other.
We're like, what the fuck?
Then he tells a story again to Virginia and he says,
10, 12, 14 ibuprofen a day.
And we're like, is ibuprofen code for something?
Or like, are you really trying to tell me
you overdosed on Advil?
I go on Twitter, people are like, wait,
I thought this guy was talking about
like Percocet. Jackie, me and Ben are laughing so hard. And then he's like, wait, 20 Advil
a day. That's four Advil every five hours. That's like, literally not crazy. It's a lot.
But it's like, I think my dad does that. Like, it's seriously not a big deal. Oh my God,
I was reading these tweets, wheezing in my sleep because people were just like,
we all had this general confusion like,
are you talking about Advil?
And using like the generic term for it, ibuprofen,
is that a code word for something?
Like I-
No, I feel like if he was,
if it was like a harder narcotic, he would have said,
like people share that stuff on the show.
Yeah, of course.
So your big tragedy is you overdosed on Advil.
I was floored, of course. So your big tragedy is you overdosed on Advil.
I was floored, so confused. And then his love triangle really like sifted itself out
because once Britanni said like, I like girls,
that was just not the choice was made.
And he ends up with Virginia.
And I actually think that they might, they have potential.
Based on what I've seen, I think they've got a shot.
Oh, I saw the reveal between.
Between who?
Joey and Monica.
You mean this?
Cut to my camera.
The whole time she's squatting, she's like, what?
What is this?
She's like, wait, wait, what? What?
She must have the strongest legs on the planet.
Was she perpendicular the whole time?
The whole time she was looking at the floor.
She was like the letter L.
Upside down.
When she went back into her room, she's folded over.
No, I actually think she's a really tall girl.
I think she's a little self-conscious about her height
because she was wearing little heels.
I'm sorry, sometimes the way that people
on the show carry themselves, like they're gay,
even like Chelsea run in, like her folded over.
She got down on her knee when he did
because she's literally on the floor.
But do you agree, like I really felt
like I could see their personalities matching up
in their reveal, they're both weird.
I think they're perfect for each other,
except I thought that her physical gesticulations
and her presence was too much.
And he probably didn't notice it in the moment,
but it's like, that's the sort of thing.
Maybe she just needs a minute to-
Claudia.
Jackie, you're telling me.
The squatting.
The folded over.
He could rest a drink on her back.
I need to talk about another couple.
And they're definitely my least favorite.
I guess all the other time in the show,
like she was always sitting.
Sitting, right.
So she wasn't folding herself.
Yeah, and that just maybe how, like I think a lot of tall
girls find themselves making themselves smaller.
It was beyond that.
It was, no, they like, and also they have like bad posture too.
Mm-hmm.
She was just like physically bent over.
Crawling on the floor.
Yeah, crawling, totally.
Now, the next-
Are people talking about that?
I am.
The thing I need to talk about
is the girl with the gay sister and the Catholic husband.
I'm not all the way there, but go ahead.
So they get engaged.
Her name is Sarah, his name is Ben, and he,
like they're actually-
But not Ben Platt.
No, no, he's a real Ben.
There probably aren't two people less compatible
with one another than these two.
And I find that like so many times we find out
after a season, like there were actually five more
engaged couples and we never heard about them,
they ended up on the cutting room floor.
And like these two were so meant for the cutting room floor,
they're so uninteresting, my dad likes steak.
Like that's.
My dad makes really good steak. And on like the big foundational things,
like they, she thinks organized religion
is like the worst thing ever.
He is obsessed with his faith.
Oh, it was so weird.
Cause he was like downplaying.
He was like, no, I'm not super religious.
I believe in God, but like that's kind of about it.
And then she's like, do you go to church every week?
And he's like, yeah.
So I think that would qualify you as like a religious person.
You obviously don't have to be on the same religious level
as your partner, but like on huge things
they really don't agree on. She the same religious level as your partner, but on huge things
they really don't agree on.
She is this big time social justice warrior.
He doesn't give a fuck about anything
that goes on in the world.
He didn't even vote.
Core things they don't align with.
And then their personalities are so different.
They literally are not a good couple.
I don't know why they got together.
I don't know why we're choosing to follow them.
They are so meant to end up on the cutting room floor.
But you didn't follow Leo and Brittany.
I'll never fucking forgive them for that.
No, and the thing is, is like her social causes
are the most important thing in the world to her,
so much so that like, I think she goes into the pods
knowing she's about to get engaged,
and like before he has the opportunity to say it,
she's like, I just need to know that like,
these social causes are important to you.
When he's literally said that they're not,
like he didn't even vote, and she's like,
I just need to know that you have empathy
and that like you agree with me.
And he's like, listen, it's not your job
to like teach me about these things, but I'm open.
It was so cringe.
And actually like you are not compatible with this person.
Like that's okay.
And then we saw the reveal and it was just like,
I don't know why I'm watching these two people.
Like they have no chemistry. So that sounds like my fast forward couple if I wanna save time. That's okay. And then we saw the reveal and it was just like, I don't know why I'm watching these two people.
Like they have no chemistry.
So that sounds like my fast forward couple if I want to save time.
Well, the thing is the true fast forward couple is Taylor and Short King.
But they're the drama.
That they're the drama.
Now, I haven't gotten to the part where she discovers the thing about Instagram, but they
have this conversation that's really weird.
And their conversations are so boring.
I actually watch them the least.
Like I just scroll on my phone and they're talking about Instagram.
And then I started listening because I know that they're the Instagram couple.
And he's like, what's your username?
And she's like T dot hats or whatever.
And he's like, oh yeah, I don't follow you.
Nobody asked.
And he was like, yeah, because I like, I have like a weird memory.
I remember people's usernames and their profile pictures.
It goes to your stalker. And he's like, she's because I have a weird memory. I remember people's usernames and their profile pictures. It goes to your stalker.
And she's like, but you know mine?
He's like, no, no, I don't know it.
It was such a weird conversation.
And I'm sure if there hadn't been that social media drama
that comes up, it would have been cut.
But it is weird.
Do you think it's weird that if he had seen her
and then somehow in the pods piece together
that she's that girl from Instagram,
that that really matters?
I have to see, so I still have 30 minutes left
in the final Pod episode and I don't know,
I haven't seen that drama yet.
Because to me I'm not convinced
that this is a cardinal sin.
Me neither.
But I need to see that anymore.
She just shares her first name in the Pods really.
Taylor.
So out of everyone who he can't see,
a girl named Taylor, how does he know
that that's a girl from Instagram?
That who's, I think it's a little far fetched.
That's why I will watch it because hopefully
they make the case as to why this is so crazy.
But I don't think they're so well matched.
I don't think it'll be hard for them to break up.
If this is some big scandal or whatever,
that's not the great love that we think it is.
The final love triangle is between medical ascetics Dave and the two girls,
Lauren the teacher.
Oh I haven't seen them in a while.
Molly Redhead.
I forgot, I forgot, I haven't seen them yesterday.
So he is like, I had gotten the vibe
that Molly was so his number one
and like Lauren could not stand a chance.
Yeah.
And he tells Molly that she's the number one
and Molly goes back to the lounge
and like is really excited about it
and like Lauren has such a fucking chip on her shoulder about the fact that she knows who her guy is also seeing a lot
Of the girls don't know the the guy side
They don't say a word like they nobody knows and the girls are like, you know
Chit-chatting it up at night building forts. It was so stupid. They built a fort and so
She just has such a chip on her shoulder that like she knows who the other
Girl is and she's like kind of being like a miserable bitch about it And so she just has such a chip on her shoulder that she knows who the other girl is
and she's kind of being a miserable bitch about it
and I actually can't stand her
and it made me start rooting for Molly.
And Dave did say, Molly, you're my number one.
So I'm like, all right, so break up with Lauren.
So she comes in one day and she's just had enough
and she gives an ultimatum and she's being such,
seriously, if that was me, I would run from her.
She was just giving such a great, great cup. me, I would run from her. I'm like, that's, she was just giving such
Drake cop like, well, I heard you told you
you're number one, that you're gonna break up with me.
And it's like, well, if that's what he said,
he said it and you should like save face
and break up with him first.
Like she was being so mean when she went in there.
But then he's like, wait, no, I didn't say that.
Now he did say that you're his number one.
He didn't say he was gonna break up with her.
Molly went in and was like,
he's breaking up with the other girl. He didn't did say that you're his number one. He didn't say he was gonna break up with her. Molly went in and was like, he's breaking up with the other girl.
He didn't really say that.
And he ends up choosing Lauren.
I was so confused.
He breaks up with Molly and Molly,
this whole time has been like cool, calm, collected,
being like, listen, I wanna be chosen.
So I'm giving you the space to figure it out.
If it's not me, just like let me know,
but I want you to be happy.
And so the whole time she's so cool and she's so chill.
And she's like, they're not a good match,
the teacher and the cosmetology sales.
I agree.
I actually think he's way better suited with Molly.
I don't think that he would last with either of them,
like actually get married to either of them,
but I think he might be happier with his choice
for a longer amount of time with Molly
because like Lauren is just like,
he's just like, he seems like a mean guy.
Yeah.
And she's soft. She is. She guy. Yeah. And she's soft.
She is.
She's like very-
And sensitive and yeah.
I think Molly has a bit of a thicker skin
that would like just, she could tolerate him more
for a little bit longer, but still they wouldn't work out.
So it actually doesn't matter who he chooses.
One thing I really liked-
Because he's just like not right for this process.
When Devin broke up with Britanny and he was,
she was like, listen, I think the other girl
you're seeing is Virginia.
I thought she was gonna start saying nasty things.
Cause like Lauren was saying nasty things about Molly.
The girls are so manipulative.
Brittany was like, she's amazing.
Like you're gonna love her.
It was actually so sweet.
It made me like her so much.
Like she went out with such class being like,
you guys are actually really well suited.
You're gonna be just really happy together
and I'm really happy for you.
So I really feel like they were more friends.
Oh, that's really, really sweet.
Like I might've just gotten the chill.
Yeah, no, it was really sweet.
I wanna admit it.
Especially when you see these other women like Madison,
like trying to be sweet, like, oh Meg,
like she's, they're such bitches.
Like they really are.
And all in this, all of the name of being like,
I support other women.
No, and a lot of them I see are like kind of using
their sexuality, like they're getting their guys like hard.
Yeah.
That's how I felt about.
The golf.
The golf, but other things where it's like,
there's like the sexual, there's like the choice,
that's like the sensible choice,
and then there's like the sexual choice,
which I've never really like seen that before.
I've seen people, you know, of course,
like Megan Fox comes to mind, like that's a way, you know,
I'm not gonna decline getting engaged to Megan Fox.
Even when you like say your job,
like when Virginia's like, I'm a former NBA dancer,
but that is her job.
Ben was like, is that cheating?
I'm like, no. No, you think she did that, like that's attractive and she did it. Yeah, and she's allowed to I'm a former NBA dancer. But that is her job. Ben was like, is that cheating? I'm like, no.
No, she did that.
Like that's attractive and she did it.
So. Yeah.
And she's allowed to have had a job.
Like if a guy was like anything,
or that was like when someone was a football player
last season and then she like chooses him and meets him.
And he's like, he's the kicker.
Yeah, right.
Stop.
So I am gonna keep watching,
loving every minute, love is blind.
I'll see you guys on Monday.
Try and catch up over the weekend
so we can be all caught up together. I will try.
Let's do Queenie and Weenie, our final segment of the week
where Jackie and I just sort of wrap up the week,
put a little bow on things, and give out two awards,
Queenie of the week and Weenie of the week.
We're nominating two separate people,
somebody who acted like a Weenie this week
and somebody who acted like a Queenie this week.
It's a seven day title, it's not that serious,
it's supposed to be fun, we're all good here.
Let's start with Queenie, we'll start on a positive,
and Jackie, would you like to go first or second?
I'll go first because my Queenie of the Week
is more of an abstract concept
and that my Queenie of the Week is the week.
Like, is the studios, is the production, is the commute,
is the lady who parked my car,
is the button that self-parks my car sometimes.
Like, just the week in general was so Queenie-like
and I could have chosen any one of those things,
but just the ambiance of the week,
if we can allow a concept.
You can, concepts are always welcome at Queenie.
Person, place or thing.
Mine is similar, it's the studio.
Now, I know we just renovated our studios
and we literally spent every dollar we had
to renovate our New York studios.
And I never knew that I needed to sit behind a desk before.
Like, I have had such an amazing time here.
I'm so glad.
I'm gonna come visit you all the time,
even though this is probably my last trip before.
I can no longer travel, right?
I guess, but just, you're gonna come visit me.
We're not gonna think like that.
And I've had such an amazing time here.
I feel like we've made such premium content.
I love sitting behind a desk for my mental health.
It's been so good for me.
Your sunglasses.
My sunglasses, the whole, the aesthetic.
Okay, so it sounds like we're aligned.
Yes, of this week.
The week being the Queenie of the week.
Yes, 1000%.
It was an amazing week.
We had family time, we were so productive.
It was just really fabulous.
Yeah.
Now, my weenie of the week is Bonnie Blue.
Oh, I was gonna say the whores, yeah.
The whores, yeah, both of them.
Both of them, because they say the other whore
is pregnant now.
And they both are faking pregnancies right now.
Bonnie Blue is not pregnant.
And is my culture a costume to you?
I actually saw a headline, I didn't click it,
that Bonnie Blue faked her pregnancy to raise money
for someone else's IVF treatment.
And then Labiaplasty Lily was faking a pregnancy
as a role play for a video of hers.
See, these women are my weenies of the week
because they have gotten to a place now
where I can't ignore them.
And up until this point, like I had seen them peripherally on social media
and chosen to ignore them,
but now like they're unignorable.
Like it's our jobs and they're like in the-
They've broken through.
And that is really fucking annoying.
Like that I'm forced to being talked about these people.
Like I'm better than this.
It's so funny.
We are so aligned.
Queenie the weak, weenie the whores.
Do you think that's too long for a title?
And can you use whores in a title? You could asterisk the O. We'll talk the horse. Do you think it's too long for a title? And can you use whores in a title?
You could asterisk the O.
We'll talk about it.
We'll chat offline.
We'll workshop.
Now, while we're in our split screen,
let's do something we've wanted to do our whole lives.
OK, and we have a monitor up.
OK, I see I have to pull it back.
Pull back, pull down.
You guys, that's how you do it.
No, Jackie, you are doing the same thing
you do it in New York, where your hand is angled.
You need to push your fingers back towards the TV
Go your cameras over your cameras there. So all right, okay
Yeah, wait, Jackie turn your fingers towards the TV screen. Relax your fingers a little bit
Turn your fingers a little bit. Okay
Okay. Really?
I'm so glad we're doing this.
My hand hurts.
Wait, no Claudia, get back here.
Oh, shit, okay.
Wait, let me organize, hold on,
I'm having a really hard time.
Yeah, it's cramping.
No, no, I'm just like not,
we were closer before, this is crazy.
Turn your chair, that's better.
There, I'm here.
Okay, you're ready.
I was gonna say, Jackie, you said it,
and then you come in.
Jackie, twist your, my hand hurts.
Come and be done.
Hold on, I got it, I got it, I got it!
No, you didn't, you're literally fingers.
Come and get me, I got it! No you didn't, you're literally fingers.
I'm coming!
I'm coming in.
I'm coming in hot.
Okay, I can't do it anymore.
Okay, that is actually really educational
to let me know that it's never gonna fucking happen.
It's not us, yeah.
No, no, it's never gonna happen.
I think I have to give up on my dreams,
but my car parks itself.
So when one door closes, another one opens.
Me too.
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