The Toast - Summer Glass House: Friday, June 14th, 2024

Episode Date: June 14, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Friday, gorgeous girls! Happy Friday to all the gorgeous girls out there being gorgeous, being girly, and celebracioning the fact that it's Friday. Yeah, not a big deal. We're so chill about it. Like, it's not a big deal. Congratulations on graduating the 24th week of the year. What an amazing accomplishment for everyone. I never. It's so important to celebrate the small wins.

I never imagined that I, just a little girl, you know, from New York City, would be graduating the 24th week of the year. And that's why it's so important to dream big. The 24th week of 2024. It's really poignant that we mark this milestone. 100%. How you doing, La? I'm doing so good. So excited about, you know, the week ahead, the weekend ahead. So much to be grateful for. And today's one of those days where I'm really feeling grateful for my health because I had a bit of a

health scare last night. Okay. You know, Ben and I hit the town last night, which I don't often do. We hit the town. We had a couple events to attend. We had dinner. You know, being out and about, fashionistas, it girls, you know, things of that nature. And we got home. We went to sleep.

I would say I was asleep for maybe 20, 30 minutes before I woke up writhing in pain. I would say I was asleep for maybe 20, 30 minutes before I woke up writhing in pain. Now, I have heard people say, like, there are, you know, stomach pains that are so bad you go to the hospital and it ends up just being gas. And I've known that that's a thing. And I think as it was happening to me, like, I knew that it was a problem. That that was an option. That that was an option. But it was so bad. And I'm still, like, kind of, I'm having residuals right now.

But it was so bad that I'm like, no, this is worse than what people talk about. Like, I must be having kidney stones. Like, I didn't. And especially like, it's not where you would expect gas pains to be. Like, to me, they felt like period cramps, but like on crack. Oh, my God. I woke Ben up. I'm like screaming, crying, throwing up like so much pain.

And Ben was like, let's go to the hospital. And I'm like, I'm not going to be a cliche. Like, I'm not going to the hospital and I'm like I'm not gonna be a cliche like I'm not gonna be one of these people I'm sorry yeah and he's like okay take a tum and take gas x just in case it's gas and I felt like him saying it was gas was like really minimizing my pain and belittling my feelings but I'm like okay I'll entertain this clown and take the gas x and I will say within like 10 minutes like I knew it was gas because it was getting significantly better enough to a place where I could go to sleep but I was shivering like I felt like I had a fever it was so crazy it was the worst experience of my fucking life I couldn't unfurl

myself from the fetal position like the fetal position was the only thing keeping me alive do you have heating pad okay of course yesterday my heating pad blows out and these like cheap I get these like cheap ones from Amazon they're're totally made in China, but they're huge. Like they're probably four times the size of a regular heating pad. And I like them. And something I know is that I have to replace them every couple of months. And I've made peace with that. Mine blows out yesterday.

I didn't immediately buy a new one because I knew I had another one somewhere in the house. We found it last night. The second one, the second in command, it's also blown out. It's working for like 10 minutes at a time so at least I got that and I made Ben keep getting up and plugging it back in once you like take it out plug it back in like they're janky as fuck but I know how to work you need like one standard heating pad like for medical like the way you have a first aid kit in your house like you need a heating pad it's true issues of the tummy and back. It seriously saved my life. And I have long been an advocate for gas sex.

I think when people talk about over-the-counter drugs, like Advil, Tylenol, people are always going on about the top drugs. And gas sex never gets its shine. I feel like it's constantly being overshadowed by Pepto-Bismol or Tums. Gas sex is in its own fucking league. That's because they don't do the advertising. Like Pepto-B or Tums, Gas X is in its own fucking league. And I'm- That's because they don't do the advertising. Like Pepto Bismol has their jingle. It's true.

I've never even seen a commercial. And Gas X is resting on its laurels of like, we don't need to prove to you why we're so good. And I agree with them. Like seriously, Gas X is a life-changing medicine. And I find it difficult to find, especially, I think they're trying to compete with Tums. They came out with like their own chewables.

And a lot of times when you're going to look at the grocery store or the pharmacy, they'll be selling only the chewables. I don't fuck with the chewables. They're capsules. Two capsules can save lives. It happened to me last night. I am kind of tired. I'm growing tired of nobody talking about and giving credence to gas sex.

It is seriously a miracle drug. That is so wonderful. We read a book for the Redheads, Lady Tan Circle of Women. It's about Eastern medicine. Oh. And it wasn't even the book that got me thinking about it. It was the Redheads discussion

because all the girls were talking about what it made them think about like Eastern medicine. I'm like, oh, I really didn't think that much while I was reading it. But now the discussion among the swirlies, riveting discussions really making me think more of like medicine is great like I mean it's so great to alleviate your symptoms I actually can't have this conversation with you because I live with Ben Soffer and I have this conversation every weekend okay no I don't know if you know what

I'm going to say next like thank you like thank you for the medicine my symptoms are alleviated so now like we need to be talking about like what happened like oh what is the issue that's not what I thought you were gonna say these are like band-aids but like what is the root issue like why did your stomach hurt I thought what you were gonna say which Ben talks about all the time is like we as human beings are prone naturally to headaches or whatever and Advil yes is amazing but he like firmly believes like in nature and he's really into eastern medicine like there is a solvent and you know what I mean like there is a solution there is a positive and a negative that can definitely be found in nature like Ben believes like there is a leaf out there that was literally like put on this earth by God to alleviate headaches like there is something in

nature to counteract every human symptom that's what he believes. I agree for the natural symptoms, but then I think there are also man-made symptoms. I thought that's what you were going to say he says, where it's like, I have this headache, and so Big Pharma's going to cure it, but Big Food created it. Yeah, yeah, no. Ben's not down that conspiracy theory yet either,

but I... I don't know. I saw a clip of Good Guys and Vinny, and I think they're close. I agree, by the way, with what you're saying. Oh, man, I am noticing how often I say, by the way. Like, it's actually kind of bad. It's I agree by the way with what you're saying. Oh my god I am noticing how often I say by the way. Like it's actually kind of bad. It's okay by the way. I wish I knew how to undo it but I don't. So there are a lot of different conversations here and I do feel like sometimes like a stomach ache your stomach ache was probably man-made by whatever you ate that day.

Some crap. So the cure has to be man-made as well but I do feel like I get migraines of course and sometimes I get a headache if I didn't drink enough water that day. Like I've created this torture for myself. But also I get hormonal migraines. A lot of women do. And that has nothing. I could be perfect like on my scorecard of being healthy and I'll still get a hormonal migraine. Like what is the remedy in nature for that?

Like I want to know what Lady Tan would have prescribed me for that. Yeah. I definitely see you, you know, and this journey that you're on, you definitely getting to a place where you don't take medicine anymore. I feel like you don't even really take medicine that much. I actually feel like I have my things that I really rely on. Like I rely on my migraine medication, risotriptan. Like I'm not interested no I mean more trying another way I mean more like over-the-counter like Advil I live in a big over-the-counter house like we rely heavily on Tums on Advil on GasX on Pepto-Bismol like we always have those things fully stocked and like we're taking them out on a weekly basis I feel like you don't really fuck with those types of medications I don't because I don't think they work when I need them to work like when I have

a headache Advil is no match for my headache. Oh my God, Advil, seriously. It's hard for like which one I love more. I still have my big, I have my prescription Advils that I got prescribed after I gave birth that are just amazing. They hit different. Actually, yeah, because they're stronger.

They're my in-between between like an Advil and my migraine medication. All that to say, like I understand the impact of Big Pharma. Like I understand the concern. I saw, what was that show called dope sick dope sick like I understand they're evil I'm holding space for two truths like they are evil but their products like I love and they make my life amazing I think there are degrees of the truth it's not even two

it's not just binary so it's fluid gas x saved my life last night a gas x saved my life and i also feel like tums shouldn't go in that category because they're made of chalk yeah which can be found in nature yeah so tums is an amazing natural remedy tums is amazing also sometimes when you i used to get really bad gas stomach pain so that's why i know what you're talking about and i was one of those people who went to the hospital once um two gas x and a chewable pepto-bismol I took you got to top it off I did I topped it off with a tum though oh okay okay you got that I just I really I was throwing everything at it you know yeah and then of course you know if you really want to attack the root issues like it starts with gut health and you know what's great

for gut health sourdough very true you didn't have those issues when you were eating good at my house. No. How's the butter dish? Did you use it yesterday? I haven't used it yet because I don't know if I was in a dream it came to me or what, but I was like, maybe I should make my own butter for this dish. That would be exciting. Oh, this is why. No, no. Let me tell you why. Because the butter that I use at home, and I am so grateful for your gesture but I use breakstones how do you put that in a butter dish you can't put breakstones in a corner it comes in a tub so I don't use that slab of butter you don't that's like the best butter only for cooking oh and literally at when I was at your house that's the butter I used because it was out because I was cooking bread well you need to get on like

nice butter sticks but yes making your own butter and you can like also form it into whatever shape you want. Um, it's actually pretty easy. I see people doing it on TikTok. If you have a KitchenAid stand mixer, like you don't have to do anything. Right. Cause Lauren Elizabeth did it. That made me realize that I can do hard things too. And you know, making butter while, while you make butter, you also make your own heavy cream because like you have to separate the liquid from the the solids the solid is the butter and the liquid is literally milk you can make your own milk too wow but it wasn't wasn't it originally milk oh yeah wait no wait you put heavy whipping cream how do you oh do you put heavy whipping cream so not just like whole milk no no no you need like a very specific I think it's heavy whipping cream you whip it the solids become better and then the

liquid becomes milk okay that makes sense you should do that by the way it's heavy whipping cream. You whip it. The solids become butter. And then the liquid becomes milk. Okay. That makes sense. You should do that, by the way. It's also like I've seen people do it on TikTok. And it's definitely something I can do. There's one ingredient. It looks extremely easy.

It looks like a thing that looks hard but is actually much easier than it looks. It's not like the old days of churning butter. No, thanks to the KitchenAid mixer. We have KitchenAid for that. You just need a cheesecloth. Do you own cheesecloths yet? I feel like that's also something in your journey. No, that's the next step on my journey. So I'm a kitchen aid for that. You just need a cheesecloth. Do you own cheesecloths yet? I feel like that's also something in your journey. No, that's the next step on my journey.

So I'm doing okay. I'm feeling grateful for my health today. I'm just waiting for like a big fart to come. That's the thing. I also told Ben, I'm like, I felt all this relief, but I didn't fart. Like I just went to sleep. You want to know something funny about farts? Yes.

It also has to do with my favorite thing, Tesla. My Tesla has like, they have these funny apps because you know Elon's a jokester. So it has this app. I didn't even know about it until Zach pulled it up. It's a whoopee cushion thing where you can move the whoopee cushion around. It has the four seats of the car

and you put the whoopee cushion in and press it and it makes it sound like that person in that seat, like ripped ass. Oh, that's funny. I knew that they had like a fart sound effect. You can make it like your horn. Oh, your horn could sound like a fart. But I didn't know that you actually could be pulling.

Oh my God. And then I also learned from Elon's memoirs of an Elon. It's actually not his memoirs. It's third person. The third person who tried to ruin the book. But there's a voice command in the Tesla. If you say open butthole, your trunk opens. Oh, that's funny.

Wait, I'm so glad you brought up pranks. I've been wanting to tell a story here. I literally felt like a grandma like a couple of days ago. I was a victim of a prank call by like these teenagers. And honestly, I like wanted to indulge them. It was so obvious that it was a prank, but they had like a good angle. I feel like when we were kids, but we always pretended to be like pizza guy or whatever.

They pretended to be the exterminator, which felt personal, like for sure. I don't know if these people were calling me like as toasters or whatever. And it was so lame. Like they obviously don't know star six, seven, like their full phone number came up. And you know, Apple has this thing now,

if somebody calls you and you don't have their number, you literally get their name. I'm like, hi, Ronnie. And when I said her name, like she did freak out. But the first couple of seconds, it was like these, it was like three little girls and they kept like switching the phone. Like I, it was so, it was so poorly.

I love that for them. It was so poorly executed, but I'm glad that like that's what kids are still doing. Cause that is harmless fun. As long as you're not like bullying someone from school on the phone. Like it was really sweet and endearing. And I gave it to them for the first couple of minutes.

Like I wanted them to like, this was a canon event for them. This was, they are going to remember this for the rest of their lives. Yeah. And that was so nice of you to give that to them. And it also speaks to the fact that they probably don't have smartphones. They just have flip phones, cell phones, which is like what a lot of parents do for kids when they want their kid to have a phone, but not a because then you know it's the rabbit hole yeah so Ronnie from Florida like I love you I hope that you and your friends like had a nice giggle and I'm so glad I could have been like a part of that extremely important adolescent moment for you I like loved you but I also felt like such a grandma it was like I'm laying home alone like in bed and these girls are like all hanging out I'm like kind of like the

loser in their high school you know yeah no you're loser in their high school, you know? Yeah. No, you're not in the high school. Like... You know I'm a fully grown woman. Yeah, no, like you're the adult in the room. Yes, I am. How frightening is that? Yeah. So that's just like a little bit about me.

Gasp, prank calls, things of that nature. Things of that elk. Well, that's really wonderful. We are so busy today. So so busy I'm very excited we have a lot to do all very exciting things to do I watched summer house this morning I am enraged I'm actually Claudia thank you I'm enraged I took notes and I'm also glad that I watched it this morning because you know sometimes you watch something and you can like feel really heated about it but by the day, like you've moved on with your life. I have, I stayed there dust collecting

round my pindah pear. I'm still there. I'm right where you left me. I'm fucking furious. I'm fucking furious. It was infuriating. I don't think I've felt that Monique.

Angry at a reunion since Monique, yeah. Real Housewives of Potomac since they did Monique. So goddamn dirty. Every, a reunion since Monique. Yeah. Real Housewives of Potomac since they did Monique. So goddamn dirty. The whole cast and Andy. The whole cast and Andy, but specifically Amanda and Kyle. And obviously like I hate Kyle and I'm clearly biased in that. But I actually really like Amanda. Like I've been able to separate church and state.

Like I think she's just fabulous. She was so unfabulous last night. And I mean talk about living in a glass house and throwing stones like we're criticizing someone's relationship respectfully Amanda like you should sit this one out right also I understand Kyle even though he was infuriating me like and shut up chirping chicken I understand him backing up Carl technically it's the same thing Paige was doing for Sierra it was just like not as pleasant to watch you know but like technically it's the same thing a friend speaking on behalf of a friend who's hurting yeah I just right I felt like it was different because Sierra was like on the verge of

tears the whole time and to me Sierra is like not a liar and Paige is not a liar like they're they're trusted sources so I know if Paige is saying something that's exactly how it happened like because she heard it from Sierra on its face it's just like a friend speaking for the friend the injured party like I shouldn't have issue with it so I'm gonna allow Kyle Kyle Kyle Kyle to be like so fucking annoying whatever Amanda like so one like unacceptable so far removed from the situation like please stop chirping in also like god forbid and I hate this term because, but like, where's the girl's girls? Like, I know Lindsay's not one herself, but being a girl's girl, as they say, like it's

not conditional. Just because she's not one doesn't mean that like you then don't turn into one either. Like, I don't know why everybody had to pile on, especially when like the pile on between Carl, Kyle and Andy. Was enough. Was good enough. So like the fact that she has it coming from literally all sides was really, really infuriating. Except for Gabby, my queen.

Oh, Gabby, my queen. Gabby, my queen. I also feel like last night's episode and the reunion in general is really proof that because I don't think the cast really needs to be shaken up that much, but there's a lot of people there doing like nothing. And I don't think Danielle said she was asked one question in the second episode yeah and then the first she didn't really say much either except for the actually no I take that back she had the whole drama with that made her look so bad with selling the story to elite daily or

whatever yeah so I think as far as people who could go she would be one of them but I think she's a good person to have in the house from a production standpoint because you just never know what she's gonna say or do and and things pop off when she's around so like I think the cast will stay exactly as it is yeah I just I could see them being like we don't have a need for Gabby because she really like she didn't she popped up at the reunion but in this season like but I really need her to stay I think like there's a lot of potential there and I like it really wouldn't be fair if there's nobody on Lindsay's side yes for and I feel like Lindsay wouldn't go into a house where she doesn't have one friend they definitely want Lindsay to come back yeah I think that they're a package deal I have so much to say um so let's save it for yeah the recap and without further ado yeah get into the fast five

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BB Rexha calls G-Eazy an ungrateful loser after being asked to shoot social content with him so this story is surprising but BB Rexha posted to her instagram story a screenshot of text messages of it seems like someone on her team asking if she has any interest in shooting social content with g easy when in new york re me myself and i which is a song that they did together years ago and i think it must be having like an anniversary or something so they wanted to like make some social stuff right so she took a screenshot posted to her her story, at G-Eazy, you have my number. Why don't you text me and ask me yourself? You stuck up ungrateful loser.

You're lucky people are liking you again because I could go in on all the shitty things you've done and how you treated me after giving you your only real hit. By the way, the answer is no. Hope you good. Then she deleted it and tweeted an explanation. Then she deleted it and then tweeted this. Someone from my team had me take down my Instagram

story. I decided to remove it because it felt very negative and toxic. Sometimes trauma can lead us to react that way and that period of my life was traumatizing. I am writing this because I regret taking it down and I want to say that I still stand by what I said. So I feel like this is not the first time Bebe Ricks says Instagram stories are making waves where she's posting personal conversations and like outing people as whatever and then also deleting it. And both times, like I have felt that she handles

like situations like this really poorly. However, we know G-Eazy to be a piece of shit. We all heard that song Halsey wrote wrote about him I'm so glad I never ever had a baby with you he there are some pretty heinous allegations out there about him like he is a certified piece of shit so I stand with Bebe Rex I can only imagine what working with him was like however like she really needs to work on her like scandal and her public her like out her public facing drama she always handles things like really poorly posting and deleting is the worst thing you could do agreed but I do separate this

from that conversation thing with her boyfriend about like her weight being fat yeah like that I didn't even think about that when thinking about this because it feels like two different things especially because that's like so personal and like this is a business professional public relationship yeah and I think the issue is more so like the posting and deleting and then saying I still stand by it like it's giving willy-nilly yeah and that's not a feature I like in a person and like the only proof that we have is like that screenshot where basically she appears to be angry that G-Eazy like had his team reach out to her team to shoot social content and not just him texting her. Which honestly is not a crime and I think that's how a lot of even like celebrities who are really close like that's how they handle things. That's how

you get things on the schedule. Like your team talking to the other person's team. It's really not a big deal and I don't think like her being upset about that is warranted. However, I imagine she has horrible stories about him and I just think yeah like she handled this wrong and weird yeah it's like the hell you're dying on and the thing you're going to share with us is that you're mad that he didn't just text you directly it's like literally not a big deal yeah and that's what you're going to share with us and you're saying there might be these really bad experiences but I I don't know and I can't even honestly think of what it could be I don't really know anything about G-Eazy even some of the things you're saying like we all know I I don't know oh I know okay that song that Halsey

released that really became like an anthem for domestic violence um oh is that what it is yeah oh and so many people like like, shared their stories. And, like, I fucking hate G-Eazy. Like, that's just, like, I stand with Halsey. For sure. I love that song. I never even knew that's what it was about. That's, like, one of my favorite treadmill songs.

No, it's, by the way, it's a really empowering song. Let me read the lyrics. Like, you should be sad. That's the song. It's called You Should Be Sad. Yeah, and here's some of the lyrics. Oh, yeah, and you can't fill the hole inside you with money, drugs, and cars. So I want to start out this and say, I got to get this off my chest,

got no anger, got no malice, just a little bit of regret. No, nobody else will tell you, so there's some things I got to say. Going to jot it down and then get it out, and then I'll be on my way. You're not half the man you think that you are. And you can't fill the hole inside of you with money, drugs, and cars. I'm so glad I never, that's really powerful. I never had a baby with you. Cause you can't love nothing.

Can't love nothing unless there's something in it for you. One of us has to sing, we can't both sing. Oh, I feel so sad. I feel so sad. I tried to help you, it just made you meh-yeah-yad, and I had no warning about who you are. I'm just glad I made it out without breaking down and then ran so fucking far that you would never, ever touch me again.

Won't see your alligator tears because no, I've had enough of them. Such a good song. Yeah. And I like, seriously, I stand with Bebe Rexha here. I don't know the context, but like, hey, you. Geez. Yeah. So you do stand with her, even though you're saying don't know the context, but like, hey, you, G-Eazy. Yeah. So you do stand with her, even though you're saying like the team's. That's what I'm saying.

Like she handled this badly because if you don't know context and you're just reading this, it's like, that's what you're mad about that they had your publicist text you? Like you sound crazy. Yeah. Yeah. No. And then have you ever seen the video of Halsey performing on a stage and like somebody is like shouting G-Eazy and she literally stops the show

and she's like, if you fucking say G-Eazy's name one more time, I will throw you out of here. She literally finds the person in the crowd. Like, hey. No, I don't know their backstory. Yeah, there's a lot of lore there. Are Bebe Rexha and Halsey friends? I don't know.

Like maybe Bebe's just had her own negative experiences. Yes, yes. I think Bebe's trauma that she's referring to has nothing to do with Halsey. I don't know if her and Bebe's just had her own negative experiences. Yes, yes. I think Bebe's trauma that she's referring to has nothing to do with Halsey. I don't know if her and G-Eazy ever dated. Like, I don't know. But he's like an animal. Got it.

Okay. Well, she stands by what she said. Good. She wants you to know. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Some more Instagram news. Taylor Swift stayed up late to celebrate Travis Kelsey

and the Kansas City Chiefs ring ceremony, joining the party from Liverpool. So the ring ceremony was last night, and one of the Chiefs' wags was live streaming the ceremony, and Taylor logged on from her account to watch. It was like 3 a.m. in Liverpool, and she's leaving comments and being super sweet and supportive. No, like, it's too much. This is such, like, a regular degular thing and she's leaving comments and being super sweet and supportive no like it's

too much this is such like a regular degular thing to do you know like yeah and it's crazy like when she wants to watch a live stream she has to do it from her Instagram account with like 200 million followers you know like it's she definitely has a finsta but why hide the fact that a hundred percent but why hide the fact that you want to watch your Your man. Your man. Like what's. What's. Where's the shame. Yeah. And it's sad that like Taylor couldn't attend that. Because it's like a big.

You know. Community event. Is it? Yeah. Everybody gets all dressed up. Yeah. I saw a bunch of pictures. And there's like a. Yeah.

Whole ceremony. And then you open the box. It's sad for us that she couldn't attend that. Her. For her too. But yeah. For us. For us.

Like the potential. The potential. They still haven't walked a red carpet together. No. You're right. But they've so many photos together, which is so crazy because of the six-year Joe Alwyn relationship. And when people reference it, there are three photos. There's one of her in the blue Cinderella blue jacket.

Leaving that event in. There's one of them running from that door to get into the car. Yeah. And then one, there's the screen it's literally a screenshot from miss americana when she runs off the stage after her first reputation show and runs into his arms and so they're just hugging and he's wearing a black baseball cap and you it literally could be anyone three photos oh no there's also one um where he's wearing a camera around his neck and they clearly just went for a hike cute yeah um I just had a separate thought but not worth going down we need red carpet pictures

that's next for us what is the next big event well it would have been this but we don't even know about things like this I'm sure there's like some hall of fame you know I feel like they'll probably wind up going to a random thing not the Grammys which would be in eight months from now or and I do think it'll be at a Travis event like an event for Travis because Taylor you know is very I think she's very proud like she's this woman who's accomplished these insane things and I think she's very careful to not ever let like a boyfriend or a relationship be the moment when it's like no I'm being celebrated for my work and my ethic and my talent and my business um but I think she'd be more than happy to like have it be like a moment for Travis like she's like lifting him up because she's like the alpha you know yeah but also I feel like when a theme especially a

female artist like goes to a Grammys or a red carpet and they have like albums that are coming out especially with her most recent look at the Grammys like it's very much a piece of art and it's the moment of like this is you know there's celebrating here you know and I stand on my own and like the outfit is a work of art yeah and it doesn't really work when you're like posing with your man and that no nothing ruins it like she could like go to an event for him get a dress off the rack nothing ruins an outfit more that you've worked really hard on than like a man next to you in a photo, like grabbing your arm and your waist in a photo in a way that's not flattering. Like fuck off.

Fuck off. Yeah. Like I don't want to turn to the side. I don't know what to do with my arm. Like you just look at the, look at the dress. Yeah. Yeah. So I agree.

It would be something for him and probably not something that we'll even expect. Yeah. Not something big, flashy, like one of these random sports things that like Travis goes to all the time and nobody thinks much of and they don't make the news. Yeah, or like NFL honors. No, that's like a big one. That is a big one. But that's, you know, big, fancy events in his realm.

Yeah. Wait, I also, actually, again, not another conversation I want to like it's like so uninteresting no mine wasn't like uninteresting it's just like I can't explain why no I would say it and then you would be like cool like okay okay now you have to say it and I'll say mine okay so I was saying because speaking of football when we were talking about Zandra yesterday um another connection like that I hadn't thought of is that Zandra potentially dating Danny Amendola. Of course, Danny Amendola is notoriously Olivia Culpo's ex-boyfriend. Right, right.

Alex Earl also has this like crazy connection to the Culpo family because Braxton famously dated Sofia Culpo for like 10 years and then like allegedly like. 10 years, like two. Yeah, you know what I mean. Then like, you know, like left her on the years, like two. Yeah, you know what I mean. Then like, you know, like left her on the side of the road. That's how she describes it. Yeah, like dispute about when they broke up, when he was seen with someone else.

Was that cheating? Like very contentious breakup. Yeah, exactly. And public. So just like another, like these Xander and Alex, like they can't get away from each other. Like they're inextricably linked.

Well, I think it's like a small circle. Yeah. I also think it's just a small circle. Yeah. It's a small world. Like especially when you live in the same city and you like the same guys. Also, I started following Xandra on Instagram and she posted a photo dump yesterday. And like in the middle of it were like a picture of her and Camille at that event.

And then a picture of Tom Brady on stage. I confirmed she was there. Oh, okay. Good. Good. Yeah. So. Good.

I love that for her. I'm glad to close the loop on that. Yeah, me too. What were you going to say? Mine was, like, something kind of different, but just when you were talking about Taylor and Travis, like, we're ready for a red carpet picture, you're like, they have so many pictures together,

and you were like, but with Joe, she only had three. And I feel like the privacy with Joe gets really clowned on right now because, like, he was the one who wanted privacy, and she's, like, you know, unabashed in her love for Travis right now but I could see a point and I I just feel like in some ways it's like makes you look back like fondly on like to have a private relationship like it's not all bad I feel like it's been chalked up to be like all bad now where like he was hiding her but it's like no you have this thing for yourself like right now her relationship is so like for the public and in so many ways that's so good for her

because she's living her life unabashed. But like there is a negative to that that I think she was trying to avoid with Joe and being private. Then of course there's negatives to secrecy. But I think that like having that like special thing for you. Of course. It's not all bad.

The narrative about like the privacy of her and joe's relationship has completely shifted yes because during the relationship we were all like happy for her we respect we think the fact that they're so private speaks to the seriousness and the and the specialness of the relationship and it's totally taylor's doing like why wouldn't he want taylor to come to his you know indie film premiere it would give the film that nobody's talking about something to talk about um and yes since they broke up the narrative has completely shifted and I think part of that is people decoding some of the lyrics I don't know where like the the shift people just decided no it actually was never like that it was never special it was always Joe hiding her I don't

know where people get that like certainty and confirmation from but you're right you are right about that I think we've learned that the you would have thought the privacy was what Taylor wanted we've learned that's more of what Joe wanted but I don't think it has to be either extreme like I think it's somewhere in the middle where it's like it was really nice there were some things I would have wanted to go to with you that you didn't want to go to but like it's a nice thing and that also doesn't mean that her thing with Travis isn't special like yeah it's just it's different and I would imagine you know you could look back now and be like oh privacy was nice for a second but also privacy in a relationship is not something Taylor Swift is currently eligible for you have to think about also the timeline there was a time

and especially a couple of years when she was dating Joe that were like kind of a low in her career like the lover era there wasn't this insane global like search for where is Taylor what is Taylor doing what is Taylor eating what is Taylor wearing who is Taylor with like she actually probably had access to a little bit more privacy during that time because she wasn't the number one star in the world she was a relatively big pop star but you know even Ariana Grande can leave the house these days and not get photographed Taylor Swift cannot leave the house now and not get photographed. Yeah. But that's also because of the relationship too now. What came first? Actually, what came first was her success. Yeah. Was Aris. That's why he gave her his number. Yeah. Which number? Right. Right. Okay. Well, I'm glad we shared our innermost

thoughts, Turdi. Me too. And you know what? They both led to interesting conversation. We shouldn't doubt ourselves. We are interesting. I wasn't feeling doubtful I was just like do I need to make this point yeah every point need to be made all the time sound off in the comments did either of our points need to be made I don't think that they did but I don't think it took away from the show in any way but I think people will understand why oh okay yeah yeah I know why sometimes you don't say everything that's on your mind it's just like not everything needs to be said yeah this isn't like the best episode we've ever done because of those conversations we just had.

No, and I think our honesty and candor about the nature of conversations is appreciated and it could lead to the best episode ever. And we're kind of like lifting the veil because people always ask like, what's your process? You just saw it. You just saw it. You just saw it. You're so authentic. Ah, then, hey.

Are you ready for our next story? What, number four? Three. Yeah. And it goes like this, if you're watching on YouTube. Oh, she's breaking her heart hands. I'm breaking my heart hands, but though they're not my heart hands, they are Giselle and Joaquin Valente's heart hands.

Giselle and Joaquin Valente's heart hands Giselle and Joaquin have reportedly split that's the first part of the story and then it's rumored um due to the stress after Tom Brady's roast okay I want to say because that sounds so stupid like that's obviously not the reason however however do you remember that police footage of Giselle getting pulled over? Like she's clear, she was distressed. Like she actually is, I feel someone who is

currently extremely stressed based on that video. Was that before or after the roast? It was a little bit before and like the roast could have put her over the edge. Like honestly, it sounds stupid,

but maybe it's not. Like maybe that was like, like most things are the straw that broke the camel's back, but like there are a ton of other things. And if it was just that thing alone, it wouldn't be that. To be completely honest, I'm shedding no tears over this relationship ending. Like Giselle can do better than a no-name Krav Maga instructor.

Especially if Tom Brady is going to be out here dating like Irina Shayk. Whatever. He's being linked to like all these supermodels. Like Giselle needs to seriously start dating. Like thing is like who and this is the game for sure but like let me let me challenge you why to win win what the divorce everybody knows no I know but like really like how do you win the divorce by like being genuinely happy and moved on and I actually think that dating someone like in the spotlight is no I'm kidding like no I know I I know but like if you're actually talking about like a real joy and happiness then like great the jujitsu instructor like if she's happy and she loves him it doesn't have to be like tip for tat no it does like in my yeah leo right yeah even though like didn't she date leo she yeah

no that's i mean there's nothing better than like going back with an ex yeah but she's um 43 um aged out of the program um let's pull up the list okay fine yeah add her to our Joe Manganiello Joe Manganiello yeah I guess like she could do that to be petty but like that just speaks like a real I've moved on that like I'm not playing these games you know I do know so I feel like she's if you really think about it not on the surface but like deep feel like she's, if you really think about it, not on the surface, but like deep down, like she's winning the divorce because like she doesn't care. That's the opposite of a love is in hate. It's indifference.

It isn't love, it isn't hate. It's just indifference. Yeah. Taylor Swift. Is that tailored? The great Taylor Swift once said. Mm-hmm. Okay, I hear you. But as it pertains to this story,

like, I'm personally not crying. You know, I'm not this. I'm not this. I'm not. And I said these aren't, these hands are symbolic. If someone asks this. You know what they are? They're just hands.

I haven't quoted that infamously on Lock and Line in a while. I need to bring that back into my repertoire. I feel like now it will come back as they do. And you know what I'm going to do after this? I'll probably go get my dick sucked at the roundup. You should. Yeah. You deserve it. Just hands. I do

deserve it. Sorry, that just kind of like, I missed that. I do. Thank you. So, I hear he gets I do. Thank you. I hear he gets his dick sucked at the roundup. And I know the boys who did it. Oh, yes. And I know the boys who did it.

She was so iconic, seriously. I know she went out in a blaze of disgracefulness for low-key being so racist. However, I'm holding space for two truths. She did the work on that show no like the graph of like Leanne's departure and the show ending like they're just parallel they're congruous yeah yeah it's just one line actually no and like that whole chirping Mexican thing like she was so wrong for that so crazy wrong for that and especially like those are my people yeah and I don't fuck with any sort of slander like seriously comfort my people you guys know me I'm so loyal or as my people would say I'm a loyalita

um however like they're just hands yeah are you ready for our next story yeah it's a little casting news a little picture next to picture who Who's playing who? Okay, tell me. Is it a biopic? It is a limited series. Oh, and it's actually a recast. I guess we already did this story and we said it was someone else. Joan? No, Amanda Knox, which I know is like a gap for you in your knowledge.

It's a gap in like the cultural landscape of like a story that's so big that has so many people in a chokehold that I seriously like I couldn't be bothered to care less about. I don't even know what she was accused of doing. And like did she do it? She was accused of murdering her roommate and I don't think she did it. In Italy. And she was acquitted. She was acquitted.

Okay. Because the glove did not fit. So they must acquit. But it was going to be Margaret Qualley playing Amanda Knox. I'm sure you know what Amanda Knox looks like. Yeah, a very regular, jagular brunette girl, and honestly, Margaret Qualley is a perfect cast. So she exited from that, and instead,

someone who looks even more like Amanda Knox, Grace Van Patten from Tell Me Lies, will be playing Amanda Knox. She's also a phenomenal actress, and I just also love her getting work. So I like this. I like this a lot. I like this a lot.

I had already forgotten about the Margaret quality thing. And I think she looks more like Amanda. Yeah. And I think she needs her next big role. And maybe this role is where I finally start learning about Amanda Knox. I do love a limited series. Well, the rest of us watch the documentary on Netflix. That's why.

And most of people, not me, because we were young, but like most people like followed the story. Like it wasn't that long ago. And then recently she had a documentary on Netflix. Now she has a podcast. She was on Joe Rogan. I listened to a lot of her on Joe Rogan. Yeah.

So now we're going, here we go again. We haven't, I guess we haven't had a dramatized version, just like the documentary so far. Yeah. So now we're going, here we go again. We haven't, I guess we haven't had a dramatized version, just like the documentary so far. Yeah. I don't know how many times you can tell this story, but also I saw last week, like she's being accused of something again in Italy. Like she might have to go back.

I think she's being like accused of defamation. Okay. By the way, I did see that too. It's like, can this girl just stay out of Italy? No, like she and Brittany Griner and their passports. Yeah. Need to be burned at the stake. Yeah.

Like, can they even get her arrest her in Italy? If she, if she saves here, do we have extradition? That's what it's called. Extradition laws. I don't,

I think that we do like people who commit a crime here. Can't just run off to Italy, right? You'd have to ask Joe Giudice oh that's so well because he literally committed a crime here and ran off to Italy now ran off I do mean deported right but you know let's look where does he live now Bahamas in the Bahamas yeah so he could be close to America is that the closest, like, wouldn't Toronto be, like, a 45-minute flight? Toronto? Oh, to New Jersey?

Canada. Sorry, I, I, probably, but do you see Joe living in Canada? No, he wants to live in the Bahamian lifestyle. Not any more than I live in the Bahamas. Like, if you're, like, what are you doing in the Bahamas? And do the girls always want to be going to Canada? Like, at least now when they go visit their dad, it's like like let's go leap of faith at the Atlantis no for sure for sure for sure he's kind of become like the mayor of the Bahamas like anytime someone a celebrity or anyone goes to the Bahamas like they see him yeah and they have to sort of like you know

it's really their respects so once you get deported, are you allowed to visit? No. Okay. I think you just get deported from like living here. Being here. I just feel like he got a raw deal. Because you could like come back and sneak in. I just feel like he got a raw deal. Like now in hindsight, like he definitely was guilty,

but he wasn't guilty of like a dangerous crime. He was guilty of like being a thief. Yeah. And there are thieves walking among us. It was like the highest letter to the law that they punished him with and made an example out of him yeah and you know as a man he has four daughters like I feel like violent criminals are running amok every day I just feel like we don't talk enough about who aren't citizens here they're not getting deported I feel like we don't talk enough about who are in citizens here they're not getting deported i feel like we don't talk enough about how like that was wrong like he literally has a whole family here that he can't say because he committed mortgage fraud like his you know the victim of his crime was the

government and a bank like do we give i mean that's why they were extra salty yeah and like we like personally as a taxpayer like i don't give a fuck you know yeah meanwhile I'm I don't know I'm on the U.S. State Department website they're telling me about the the treaty between the Italian Republic and America when it regards to extradition I'm not going to get my answer in a switch manner oh wait does the U.S. extradite to Italy the U.S. Italy treaty allows extradition only for offenses punishable by a custodial sentence of more than one year or a more severe penalty under the law of both states so yes so it's case dependent so i don't know what she wouldn't be going to prison even if she got you know she wouldn't no for defamation you wouldn't go to prison oh that's so true so she doesn't have to go actually great happy for her stay put amanda stay put are you ready for our fifth and final story

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Like, I genuinely am angry. I don't know, like, where to take my ire. I guess it's good that we have this show, so I can spew everything that I'm feeling and I can't imagine how people who don't have a podcast like felt after watching that I think that the the favoritism and sort of like actually the deep-rooted misogyny was really on display last night because the fact that we went through this whole reunion and literally Kyle was never once asked about him calling his wife a fucking bitch. Right. And lazy and he's throwing and he's having a temper tantrum.

No but we addressed the lazy. Yeah. And his answer was insufficient but we did address it. Literally the moment where he called her a fucking bitch was not addressed. And for me that was like a peak moment of the season. I think for a lot of people it was. Right. And it wasn't just like one fight over the summer like the two of them also had a pretty

ms summer as a couple and I feel like because Amanda opened up about what she had been going through you know what can you really you don't want to poke and prod after that yeah but I think it also makes Kyle's comments even worse right because he had known like after the wedding that she had and that this is something that runs in her family and she is you know has spoken to him about her anxiety before so he knows this is something she's susceptible to and he knows that it's been going on so you you're calling your wife who is struggling with her mental health you're calling her lazy that's even worse no and you're saying like you're lonely oh my god and it's like how

to literally Kyle puts me to shame for making things about himself. I mean, it was absurd. And I just feel like even though, and I feel like Amanda's not the issue in the fights. Like she doesn't say things. She's like very even tempered and very measured. But like, why can't we continue to ask Kyle what is going on with him and like why he would act like that? And also all this, he would seem so like stressed the whole season, like nothing, no feet to the fire, nothing.

No. And the conversation in particular about when it pertained to Lindsay and Carl and Kyle just like chiming in the entire fucking time about cocaine Carl, which Lindsay definitely was wrong for. However, I watched on Peacock, by the way, and they had some footage in there that I read on Twitter that was not in the original footage. And, you know, Lindsay shared that Carl smokes weed and before the summer he

had taken mushrooms was that on the regular episode no it wasn't and we had they had mentioned that at some point in the season like that he smokes weed so when she asked are you on drugs like it wasn't out of the blue it wasn't out of the blue and that is so germane to the fucking conversation I'm sorry when your entire like position on the show for the last couple of years is surrounded around your sobriety, which is so important. Your sobriety is fair game. And Lindsay sharing that they had went to a festival and taken mushrooms and actually Carl said he really didn't like it. He didn't want to do it again. That's important because a sober person is a sober person and if you're California sober like you know

uh who said that on Vanderpump Rules and we were like all clowning on him James Kennedy that's a thing people do but you're like you have brought your sobriety to the table so we're going to talk about it now and you're actually not completely sober if you smoke weed so we like that's just something to talk about and now. And you're actually not completely sober if you smoke weed. So that's just something to talk about. And so the conversation about cooking Carl was bothering me so much because have we all fucking forgotten who outed Carl's journey on cocaine and that he came to work on cocaine? Kyle. So Kyle having the absolute fucking gall to sit there and be like, apologize, apologize. We're literally talking about his journey, Carl's journey with cocaine because of you. You brought it on this show and you literally destroyed your friendship

with Carl because of it so respectfully shut the fuck up yeah just like be quiet on this one it also really bothered me like I felt like first of all Lindsay didn't call him cocaine Carl like to his face she's talking to her girlfriend and she said and it's not a kind thing to say but she said he's acting like cocaine Carl that's not accusing him of being on cocaine. That's saying like he's acting like so aggressive and crazy like how he used to act. Like not saying I think he's on cocaine, but just like that's how elevated he was.

Like they made it like what she said. And to me, her calling him cocaine Carl behind his back is no different than Kyle calling Amanda a fucking bitch. Like rude thing to to say rude thing to say but she's burned at the stake and he's like oh sorry oops and the part that probably bothered me the most when everyone was chiming in just basically being like lindsey this is your life and you know carl actually didn't set you up to break up with you on camera but even if he did why should you know, not be fodder for the show? Like you signed up for this basically. And I just feel of all the people to say that to, when Lindsay is hands down, maybe Carl too, has been through the most on this show. She shared

everything. She's been dragged. She shared her miscarriage, like things you don't have to share. So to even insinuate that Lindsay would like hide something from the show is so fucking disrespectful like Lindsay has bled out more than anyone if only maybe Carl too Carl with his brother and his sobriety like there are people on the show who hide there are people on the show who really don't share much like we don't know much about them but they're interesting and you know we like I know to make to level that accusation at her and I think also the only other people who I'd put in that bucket of, like, we see a lot about them not in a pretty light is Kyle and Amanda, too. Like, their relationship's always just, like, splayed out.

But everyone else, like, Danielle has got her Robert. He comes once a weekend. We don't know what goes on there. We don't know who the other people are dating or really what's going on with them. So, like, to act like she's so wrong for trying to conceal this and it's like no I gave you my whole fucking summer I gave you every weekend summer was over they also didn't say that I'm off the clock we're out of the house the rental agreement is up I'm off the clock and I thought Andy was being so misleading too like just oh my god he's infuriating what's so crazy is Andy's kind of going through it like in

his personal brand right now yeah like I and I think Anderson Cooper was saying about Andy like he's just like he looks like a swan but he's fucking paddling underwater to like stay up but and not get canceled and like I think one of a legitimate accusation like a criticism of Andy is like the misogyny it's so glaring and this was on full display in the summer house reunion and this is amidst like everything that people are saying about him. Like you would think he would at least try and act and pretend like he gives a shit about the women. And isn't playing favorites with all the boys. No. And Lindsay to me.

I was reading. People were making such fire points. And people I think were on the same level as people. Because I went to Twitter. I really. I always like to see what people are saying. And people are just like. You know Bravo's this network that really built itself

on the backs of women like Lindsay. You know, giving 10 years of her life to the show, going through probably like the lowest points of your life and sharing that on the show. And for Andy and even the cast, just to like turn on her in this moment was so disappointing because, and I'm not a Lindsay apologist.

Like Lindsay's toxic as hell, you know? Like, and we could go into that, but like in this moment, for everyone to be like Carl's the victim and coddle him, and I think it was so, the most indicative moment was like Carl sitting there being like, you know, Lindsay, like you have a boyfriend, you've been in a relationship since January,

like I haven't kissed anyone since our relationship ended, and you know, that's embarrassing for everyone. Everyone was like, Carl, no. Like, am I the only one seeing through this, like, this serious? And, by the way, I'm sure you don't know this, but Captain Lee from Below Deck recently did a podcast where he told this story and he basically said, you know, I just want to say I believe everything Lindsay's saying.

I had the craziest fucking experience with Carl Radke. I've known him for a while. We're actually friends. He came on the podcast. It was great. We had a great conversation. He didn't ask for anything to be cut out. I think I promoted it on Tuesday that he was coming on on Wednesday.

Carl fucking calls me and lights me the fuck up, screaming angry. He said, I've never seen somebody so crazy and angry in my life. Basically saying that, you know, Captain Lee's using him like clout chasing, whatever, and not to run the interview. Captain Lee's clout chasing. Right. And Carl, Captain Lee was like, it was so crazy. It was such a flip.

And it was very similar to what Lindsay describes. He's like, we didn't really see an interview. And like, I want nothing to do. He's fucking crazy. Yeah. So, and that's Captain Lee, who's not a shitster. Like, he's literally probably the most honest man on the network right so just back to what Andy was trying to clarify about production like he's saying Carl didn't call production and say I'm ending my engagement and I think that's

probably true and Andy said you know you had a bad weekend so we just wanted to follow up and like there could be a follow-up conversation with Carl and Lindsay and it doesn't go well but to like end it kind of I know everyone's like how could you be blindsided we're fighting all summer but like I feel like when you're about to end an engagement like there I would imagine there are like more stages where it's like you're questioning I don't think Lindsay questioned yeah at any point if the engagement was going to end I think the question she was asking her to help the whole time is like how can I make this work? Not like, is, like, I don't know,

maybe some people like take a break first. Maybe someone like moves out for a week, cool off. Like to just abruptly end the relationship and to say that he went into that conversation just like wanting to talk to her is so untrue because she couldn't have been more even keeled common understanding. So what was he hoping that she would say that would have stopped him from ending the engagement? And it's really crazy when you think about like how the whole cast and Andy

last night were just sort of coddling Carl and not really holding him or Kyle accountable for anything that they did this season and then I think back to last week we're like seriously one of the worst roastings of a person ever, Wes. Like everyone just sat in silence while he was being eviscerated and we lived for it because he deserved it. But his crimes comparatively like are not even remotely close to, you know, Kyle calling his wife a fucking bitch, calling her lonely when she's going through,

calling her lazy when she's going through like a deep depression. Carl like seriously being the fucking worst. Neither one of them got even like the remote ass handing that they needed but when you think about Wes and now it feels harsh yeah and like Wes crime is like leading on a person not being serious and um and like I West is my least favorite person but I feel like no one in the group especially the women have no compassion for the fact that like Lindsay is a 38 year old woman who just had her engagement ended like these are real things that we know she wants children and like regardless of you guys

fought and it was bad and you really thought that you should get married like she's starting from zero from scratch at 38 years old when the things that she wants she's on a biological clock for like have some fucking sympathy and there is a substantial rumor out there I saw it on a bunch of blogs that Lindsay is currently pregnant I hope so I fucking hope so too oh my god with triplets what with triplets like I was so glad to hear that she's in a relationship and I feel like people were like you know first of all their engagement ended in what August September um she started dating someone in January like you've got to make haste she's 38 years old and she wants children someone in January like you've got to make haste

she's 38 years old and she wants children like yeah what do you guys think is gonna happen no I'm sorry they could never make me like Carl has the luxury of not kissing anyone right right right such victim energy and that's misogyny he has that luxury and she doesn't searching for victimhood colon the Carl Radke misogyny. The Carl Radke story. I just, I can't stand him. And also, it really bothered me whenever, and especially the women on the cast, like they know the value of content creation

because they all do brand deals. This was infuriating. So for them to even compare Lindsay's job as a full-time content creator to Carl doing three brand deals in one year, stop. No, and also like, like okay so they both make money from the show and they're both influencers though Lindsay's having enough success with it to stay in the apartment by herself yep you know she's doing really well with it and no it's not

acceptable for that to be Carl's full-time job like he needs and also when she and by the way it's exactly what we were saying yesterday influencing I'm sorry is a job for women and it's a job where women make more money and Carl doing it being like look I did a way, it's exactly what we were saying yesterday. Influencing, I'm sorry, is a job for women. And it's a job where women make more money. And Carl doing it, being like, look, I did a brand deal, is not the same as Lindsay building a legitimate business. And lest we not forget, Lindsay came onto the show with a real fucking job that she left for because she was making more money doing content creation and being a reality star than she was at her actually very legitimate,

successful, high-paying job. So it's not the same. Lindsay said all summer, like, ambition is, like, high paying job. So it's not the same. Lindsay said all summer, like ambition is like sexy to me. So like if we have the same job and you're like more beta at it, like that's not hot to her. Yeah. So I feel like nothing she said was inconsistent. It wasn't like there was this big thing that we didn't know and everyone's making her feel

like so crazy for saying Carl didn't have a job when he needed to get a full time job. Also, like Lindsay can be a mom and an influencer and a reality star. Great. Like, Carl should be doing more, too. Agreed. Seriously, like, disappointing on the entire, I don't expect anything from, like, Carl and Kyle and whatever. They've got to protect their boy.

But, like, Andy and the rest of the group just piling on Lindsay. Yeah, and the girls. And I know that they have their issues with her, their boy but like Andy and the rest of the group just piling on Lindsay yeah and the girls and I know that they have their issues with her and she sabotaged Paige's photo shoot says Carl who's a liar and right sees things through the lens of his own feelings maybe he felt like she said that I don't know it's all about his feelings so that was really frustrating and so now Lindsay's in a serious relationship she may or may not be pregnant I don't think she should come back to the show I completely agree she should she say fuck you all try and have a show without me the only thing you can all agree on is how much you dislike me go

ahead go have fun no it's true and also like you have to think about the show is having like a moment now but the show like really was on three wheels for many years like they tried really hard to make summer house a thing and it has recently become a thing. Lindsay has been there from day one, bleeding out when no one was watching. How many sandwiches have you made me? Like she really, I'm sorry, is the backbone of this show. And she's toxic as hell and she's been crazy.

But I'm sorry, there's something to be said for growth. And I think she's a perfect example. All the time I've been watching Summer House, which isn't very long, like literally three seasons. I've not seen her be toxic. But I know I'm missing something. Yeah. But I feel like any time you want to defend Lindsay,

you have to caveat it with, well, yeah, she's Lindsay. I'm like, she's a girl doing her best in the world, okay? It's so true. It's hard out there. It's so true. And you're right. It was enormously disappointing. Because Kyle was annoying me too, but it's understandable.

And everybody, you're right, gets like a mouthpiece. She's not going to be, but she definitely was a contender to be weenie of the week. And it was Amanda Batula for last night's behavior. Like, especially given what's going on. Like, I think people have been speculating all week that her and Kyle are divorced. Really? Oh, because there was that video. video yes there's a video of Kyle and then Amanda's statement from last night's episode which she was clearly like addressing her opening up about her depression but her statement now people are like thinking it's like really weird timing and like she's not

been in a lot of her photos like people think like people think she's on the brink of divorce but she's out here pointing fingers like seriously take. Take a seat. Take a seat. Your husband called you a fucking bitch on national television. Like who were you to criticize? Yeah. And then the mullet. Even though he looks so much better without it. Oh my God. I didn't even realize.

He's actually a very handsome guy. Oh my God. What an actual mongrel he was looking like all season long. I did. Like haircuts on girls are like are so major. On a guy like I never even noticed oh my god yeah who the fuck let him walk around like that disgraceful yeah no I'm seriously like him becoming a DJ I just oh okay when Andy was like oh DJ James Kennedy like how is ready for this

how is Kyle becoming a DJ, like the Bravo DJ, any different than Craig investing in another canned cocktail company? Trills. Just feels kind of similar, no? Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of dynamics for this next season. Like, summer's around the corner. They're going to start, like, they always film July 4th and maybe the weekend before.

Like, they'll probably start filming in the next two weeks. Yeah. Kyle and Carl and Paige, like that's a wild one. This video of Kyle that just came out. Sierra and Wes, like how are they going to be in the same house? Wes was on Vile Files. I only saw clips on Reels, but like. Okay, what is up with Nick Vile like dying on the hill of Wes?

He's like out here making all these TikToks defending him. You think? Oh my God, have you not seen? He got roasted on TikTok. No no I saw one video from the show where it felt like Nick was trying to give him like advice and be like you done fucked up like they recapped on their show part one and he like just basically was like Sierra we'll see this in a few years like it was all her fault like it was a really crazy bad take it was such a bad take and it was kind of shocking because Nick like has good takes I feel like he's actually very leveled and I really like his wife and I feel like she's really

smart too and she did the funniest like clip she fucking hates Kyle like I feel like they were actually and like they're in a unique space where like they their job is to critique reality tv but they're also friends with a lot of these people and they come on as guests so it's an awkward balance sometimes to like criticize someone that you're our friends with but they always tell the truth and I actually really respect that he just came out of left field with the worst take on West which of course he's entitled to but I believe you that that's what's out there but from what I saw like it was a grilling and also like uh here's how you can be like a better man and maybe Nick even sees a little bit of himself in West because he took a while to settle down but I feel like he was always

more intentional like serious monogamous, you know? Yeah. Less so like Wes. I don't know. I'll send you the clip where they're recapping the Sierra West thing after part one and it's just like the worst take a person could have. But you can never make me hate the Vialls.

You can never make me. Like Natalie's my postpartum queen right now. I love her. I love her. I love their family. I love their wedding. And like her life is like, it's like seriously not relatable to me.

Like she's in a total, but I just love her. Wait, how is it not relatable to you? You're like a podcasting wife. No, no, like she's a mom. Like she's a mom. And you're saying you like her motherhood content, even though it's not like for you. I do.

And I love that she got married. Like I think a lot of people would wait to like they're fully out of a postpartum. And she like had to release a statement of people being like, your boobs look so big. She's like, I'm literally breastfeeding at my wedding fuck off like some girls would wait for that to be but be done I feel like she's so embracing mother she doesn't give a fuck like I love her no I I love that's been one of my favorite follows recently and I've met her once and she's like just

like gorgeous in person and so nice you love to hear it you love to hear it um so all that to say well there's a lot of interesting dynamics at play yes and was Wes grilled I don't know but like You love to hear it. So all that to say, there's a lot of interesting dynamics at play, yes. And was Wes grilled? I don't know, but like, what's also so crazy is Wes was the star of the season. He only spoke in the reunion when he was getting- Getting his ass handed to him. His ass handed to him.

He didn't even say anything in the second part. Like, woof. And then even on the clip of him in Vile Files, he's like shrinking into the couch. Like we barely see his face. It's like, it's so crazy how he's such a different person when it's not all fun and games. Like he's not up for the task.

Did you also feel like production wise in terms, because we talked last week about the lighting being really off on a lot of people. And then when Wes showed everyone his pit stains, was that in the uncut version? That was like an abnormal pit stain and how everyone had to be fanning themselves with those cards. I've never seen that before. Wes showed everyone his pit stains. Was that in the uncut version? That was like an abnormal pit stain and how everyone had to be fanning themselves with those cards. I've never seen that before.

I feel like this was kind of like a janky reunion. And I thought the lighting on Jesse Solomon was really bad. They couldn't make me ever hate him. No, never. What would Jesse Solomon do? No matter how many times he jumps in to defend Wes or Carl. I don't care. I literally don't care that's

just jesse that's just hey just jesse it's the wrong side he can see no no hey jesse what's that from the jesse disney channel original show starring debbie ryan i thought you were doing like hey jesse let's move into our hey, Jesse. Let's move into our... No, I wasn't. Let's move into our Queenie and Weenie of the Week, where Jackie and I... Let's move in. Where Jackie and I dole out basically the biggest awards in podcasting, and we do it weekly. We give

somebody the honor of being Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week, and it's just as it sounds. Were you acting like a Queenie this week? Well, you might be eligible for Queenie of the Week. Were you acting in major Weenie-like energy? Were you operating in a Queenie this week? Well, you might be eligible for Queenie of the Week. Were you acting in major Weenie-like energy? Were you operating in Weenie spaces? You perhaps could be eligible for Weenie of the Week. Now, it's important to keep in mind,

Weenie and Queenie of the Week are not permanent. It's a seven-day term. It's not a big deal. Don't get comfortable. Like, you can be Queenie one week and seriously Weenie the next. And you can be Weenie one week and Queenie the next. Have we ever had somebody be both? I think so.

Maybe. It's possible both? I think so. Maybe. It's possible is all I'm saying. So Jax, why don't you start us off with Queenie of the week? So after this conversation, I'm so tempted to make it Lindsay Hubbard because I thought she handled herself in a Queenie-like manner. I'm really rooting for her and I'm wishing her lots of love. But I had written down Caitlin Clark Clark another one who handled herself with such grace this week I feel like she's been taking a lot of heat in the space she has and she's really

handling herself in a graceful manner in a Queenie like manner um I like that I like that a lot and who's your weenie you don't want to do your Queenie you know one thing about me I have a really hard time coming up with a Queenie um so and I obviously Lindsay's an obvious choice but I don't want to do your Queenie? You know, one thing about me, I have a really hard time coming up with a Queenie. So, and obviously Lindsay's an obvious choice, but I don't, I feel like last week we did all Summer House people too, and it's like, we need to move on. It's just because it's the conversation right before the segment, and we're heated. Yeah, yeah. But we have to think about the whole week of shows, you know? At a glance, yeah.

And so for me, Weenie's always super, super easy. And for me, this week it's going to be Annalise Vanderpoel that's so funny for me I had a tie and it was to the two perpetrators of loser loser crime and it was Annalise and Jojo no Annalise I've been like she's been kind of a sleeper weenie you know like I've been seeing her content for an actual like two years but her weenie likeness flew under the radar you're saying I mean there was just always somebody being a bigger weenie. Yeah. But I think this week it came to, like, a weenie head. Yeah, because it made the Fast Five. That's why.

It made the Fast Five, which is kind of like a, we have a high bar. We do. And I think it's the both of them. Yeah. And then my queenie of the week. It's so hard. Who is my queenie of the week. It's so hard. Who is my queenie of the week? I'm just so negative.

Gas X. Thank you. It's also hard to like not just deliver queenie and me. Think about today. For Friday, yeah. We need to do this every day. We actually do because, yes but but nothing gave me more joy and like relief and love this week than gas x so yes i think that's beautiful la thank you

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