The Toast - Summer In The City: Wednesday, May 20th, 2026

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Dalkalax. Lex and Claudi to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday. Yeah, it's Wednesday. Hummeda.
Starting point is 00:00:34 So much TV to watch last night. It's obviously a Wednesday. I would know it's Wednesday because of the amount of time I sat on my ass last night and watched TV. Yeah. So many hours. Summer House, transition in the city. Watch what happens live. The Nick's Skin.
Starting point is 00:00:47 off campus. I'm seriously like a brain rot Gen Z teenager. Had you watched Knicks game and off campus? The Knicks game went really late. It was kind of like. I knew Zach was out with your husband and I went to sleep before he got home. So I was like they were out but once I didn't watch what in the city was over which by the way towards the end in the city I was getting so bored. I'm like I've been bamboozled into watching a show that I actually didn't really want to watch. I probably wasn't going to watch it had not been first command of all but like in meeting new people like I was just getting so bored at the end and honestly I don't know how many times we could beat the dead horse of like Kyle and Amanda. It was not some great love. Like I was just, I found it
Starting point is 00:01:21 interesting in the beginning and then I love seeing the girlies and Lindsay, but like towards the end I was like, it's hard to meet new people, you know? Especially when like these are the people were meeting. I had a lot of issues with some of the people that we met. Like who, actually, let's start with the opposite. Was there anyone that we liked? You know who was like looking good and not bothering me? Andrea. Danielle. Always. I think it was looking good. She like, I don't know what you, I think this Bob is like really serving her. And I don't know what it was about her, but she like wasn't bothering me in the way that she usually does. I thought she was being cute. Her boyfriend's spelling of his name is my personal Super Bowl. It is bar none the craziest thing that's ever
Starting point is 00:01:58 happened on this show. It is the Super Bowl of name spelling and extraneous vowels. So, and it's also just like, it's Owen. Eone? But no, it's literally just Owen. Why? I think I'm calling him Owen for one second. I can't imagine that we're actually going to be calling him a lot. Like I don't foresee him being. That's what's crazy. And I think they're the central drama because he's married. Oh, right, right, right, right. We just learned that. I was, like, exciting, excited when we were meeting new people, and it was, like,
Starting point is 00:02:24 Lindsay's mom friends. Like, they just seemed like interesting, cool girls. That's what I thought the show was going to be. And, like, the more we expanded, I got such, such bad vibes from Kenny. And, like, I was excited because I knew Whitney from The Bachelor. What's so funny is Whitney was on The Bachelor. She made it to the top eight of whose season was that. Nick?
Starting point is 00:02:41 I think it was Nick. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Whitney and Asher were, like, best friends they looked like. And we actually don't know anything about her personality because like she never spoke on The Bachelor. Yeah. We just like know that she's very beautiful. So when she came on the show and she was like, I'm this positive, like, girl, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:02:56 I didn't know that about you. It just wasn't working for me. One, I think they're just super mismatched. And when they introduced Kenny as like Kyle's friend who has a lot in common because they love to party, I was like, oh, yikes. I just got really bad vibes. I liked Lindsay's read on him also. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 we're just like she did move across the country for you it is a really big deal so also to say like by the end of the show like once we were out of Amanda once they went back seven months it's just a show like it's just an episode of the valley yeah and I was like I can't believe I'm watching this now that's like right what I wanted to watch but I'll watch it because like it's germane to west mandeval then that's why I then started watching the nick game because Ben was out and they were like losing by 20 30 points so I was like slowly falling asleep because like it was over and then I felt Ben get into bed on I don't know how many hours later. And he was like, I don't know who he was talking to because I was asleep.
Starting point is 00:03:47 He was like, they won. I'm like, are you talking to me? And I was like, wait, they did. So I must have missed something major because Timothy Shalamey posted in Instagram. No. Oh, that's why I didn't know anything about it. You think Kylie and Kimethe, I cannot say their names. Timothy, Timothy and Kylie are going to get married.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Do you think they'll get engaged this year? I don't know if marriage is on the table for them at all. For Kylie or for him? For Kylie. I guess like why not? I just feel like I never would have thought, but like this year, I don't know, they feel so serious. Like all the, and now it's just like, she talked about. I definitely think they're going to have babies.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I don't know if they're going to do them married. But her and Travis never got married. Yeah. The Kardashians like don't get married. Yeah, they don't. Because when they do, it's so bad. Yeah. I wonder like if there's a polymarket.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Like, what are the chances that Kylie and Timothy are going to get engaged this year? Hold on. I don't see engagement for them. So I would be on like the opposite. You know what? 33% chance they're saying. That's really low. That is low.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I kind of feel like a little bit higher, but I guess more so it's just because Kylie's like not marriage, girly is what I feel. I love these pop culture predictions. Yeah, I feel like that's not her benchmark, you know? For like what is a successful relationship or like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:57 definitely having kids. And did she say on therapist that she wanted to have more kids? He didn't ask that question, but she has said it before. And I feel like asking it now would be like pointed. Yeah. And it's like, are you looking for kids with your boyfriend,
Starting point is 00:05:09 Timothy Shalame? Right. Well, you can download the app now on Polymark and use code toast to skip the wait list and be the first in line when those pop culture markets hit live. I love that.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yeah, me too. So I watch so much TV like seriously Genzi Brain Rot. I also finished. I actually didn't even finish off campus, but I finished my journey with off campus. Yeah. You know, I hate to be an assayer because I know so many people are liking it.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Like I get it. Sometimes you like brain rot stuff, but you guys, it's bad. Like, I'm sorry. And people didn't like when I said that. It happens all the time where like the thing is actually, bad. Like not all the time actually. Not with everything. We have a high bar. We have a high bar.
Starting point is 00:05:49 This is really not good, you guys. Like, it's so corny. It's hallmark. But then, like, we got into lifetime because, like, there was some, like, you know, they covered the topic of domestic violence. Like, it's DeGrasse. Oh, my God. It's DeGrassey. Like, it's so fucking corny. I can't take it. And, like, it's just not giving anymore. So I, again. If DeGrassey came out today, like, you guys would be sad. Oh, absolutely. 35-year-old. DeGrasi did come out. Today.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's called off-campus. Right. Yeah. Right. And that's what you're watching. Two episodes left. I'm personally, maybe I'm too old or maybe I'm too mature. Maybe I'm too wise.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Like, I'm done. I'm happy to hear it. You have to know your boundaries. Yeah. And your limitation. I also feel like I, so I'm pretty much caught up on my contemplate, of course, for the three books that I have to read. But also I have two episodes of Rowry to catch up on.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And this fight between Kelsey and Rosie, did you watch it? No, but everyone's talking about it. I will get caught up. by the end of the week so we can talk about it, but everyone's talking about it. And Rosie was on Watch Robbins Live. It couldn't have been last night, but maybe tonight. Yeah, maybe tonight.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I love to see that, like, I think Rosie won the fight. I'm seeing that sentiment, yes. But I don't really want to, like, engage so much because I really want to have my own opinion. Yeah, I agree. I agree. So we'll watch it at some point, hopefully. Before the end of the week, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah, maybe tonight. Yeah, because Thursday there's another next game. Like, I'm so, I'm literally Samantha from Sex and Zeta. I'm actually Kylie from Keeping Up with the Kardashiansians. What did Samantha do? Samantha starts stating this guy in this one episode that's, like, obsessed with sports, specifically the Knicks. And she says she doesn't get late unless the Knicks win.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And so she, like, gets really into basketball. And, like, finally, the Knicks lose, like, for the season. And she's kind of relieved. And then he, like, turns on baseball. Like, yeah. It's funny episode. People always, like, compare Kylie to that. But, like, also me.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah. Oh, that's really funny. Yeah. Well, I want to get into the stories because I want to talk about Summerhouse. Like that. Yeah. In an official capacity. And the movie trailer came out.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And, like, that's just. Did you feel like it was a really long trail? which I appreciated. Yeah. Just in terms of like, it was like watching it on my phone. So I was like, is there a time limit here?
Starting point is 00:07:49 It also felt long because like I literally kept pausing. Like I had to like see people's faces. And you know what I'm just now realizing? West was not in the inaugural episode of In the City. He's not on in the city. He's not like a singer. Oh. Oh, I don't know why I thought he was.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Maybe he'll be on it like when him and Amanda get together because she's on it. Now they're eligible. But he's just a random single. Like Jesse Solomon's not in the city. Carl's not even on. Right. Yeah. Oh, we did get to see more of Lindsay's apartment.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It's so nice. It's so nice. Gemma's so cute. I found that interesting that Gemma was on the show because she's like a swirl who doesn't put her baby on social media. So Andy asked her about that on Watch What Happens Live. Oh. He said we've had many conversations about it.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Andy has spoken to Turner about it as well because Turner is the one who doesn't want Gemma on social media and otherwise. I think if it were up to Lindsay, she would have Gem on social media. So she said, one, like this is her job. She can't embark on a show about her as a mom without. showing her being a mom. And she decided to just like pick her battles. Like she's fine to keep Jem off of social media.
Starting point is 00:08:49 If that's what Turner wants. But she's putting Jemma on TV because that's what she needs to do in order to provide for her daughter. I feel like she is like interesting and beloved enough that she could have gotten away with not putting it on. But I don't think it's that important to her. It's not her versus Turner, not Turner and Lindsay versus the world. Yeah. Okay. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And Andy Cohen doesn't show his kids either, right? He like stopped. Did he? Yeah. He doesn't. But like when they were, I think the first one when he was little. Andy did. and maybe something happened
Starting point is 00:09:13 that he got a bad vibe because now he doesn't at all. Like, we've never seen the girl. Oh, interesting. Mm-hmm. Interesting. There aren't a lot. Oh, I was thinking the other day
Starting point is 00:09:21 to we think Alex Cooper's going to show her baby on social media. I don't think so either. Especially after you've been through, like, not that she's been canceled, but once you've been through like a scandal. What's been scorn by the internet? You see a really ugly side of it
Starting point is 00:09:31 that you would never willingly. Like put the most precious thing in the world to you. So maybe before this she might have one day, but now I don't think so. I'll be curious. Me too. But she also just doesn't share that much personal stuff. It's true.
Starting point is 00:09:45 She wants her Instagram to be, first of all, she's not like an Instagram content creator. She doesn't share her life. She posts like her produced content. Yeah. It's not like daily stories. And so I think she can get away with like not, she doesn't want to make her whole thing like a motherhood page.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I actually don't think it's germane to her Instagram account. Yeah. No, I agree. So I'm probably marketing that she's not going to. Okay, yeah, we can dive in because we're just like sort of circling the summer house screen. We're just like talking about the thing. So let's just talk about the thing. Oh, we majed yesterday.
Starting point is 00:10:15 That was, like, the only major thing that we did majure thing that we did yesterday. I love mahjong. I can't believe, like, what did I used to do before mahjong? I don't know. I, like, literally forsake all my responsibilities to play for mahjong in the middle of the day. Like, I definitely puttered around and, like, put more, my piles away. Right now, I have a pile in my bedroom that if I wasn't playing mahjong yesterday, like, I would have put away. I was definitely just, like, really prompt with answering, like, all my texts and emails.
Starting point is 00:10:38 That's no longer who I am. Mosh has taken that for me. It's just, like, a two-hour gap. I know, but it sort of spills into, because I can't do it before and I can't do it after. Of course. And like sort of recover from like all the winning. Yeah, it's a lot. You need to put out on your O-O-O-O.
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Starting point is 00:15:49 It's starting. That's beautiful. Yeah. Our first story. Okay, Summer House, recap. Let's do in the city, five minutes recap. Right. And then reunion trailer.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Okay. So the finale. I don't remember in seasons past where everybody cried so much at the end of summer. I know. It almost felt like they knew something, even though I'm not trying to be a theorist, but like a lot of the seasons end, sometimes like the girls give a long hug, but it's never so drama. And I'm not even talking about Kylan and Amanda.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I'm talking about like, Sierra and Amanda crying hugging. Like, why? I don't know. Like maybe for them, like they knew that, you know, Amanda has to go do this big thing and who was her husband. So, like, they're crying for that. But it did also feel like everyone was just like sad. to be leaving each other.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. They were also probably like hung over and just like emo. Yeah. But it was really last day of camp vibes. I also think that on the whole, aside from Kyle and Amanda, like everyone really bonded this summer and like really had a good time, had a lot of fun. They were very like enmeshed in each other. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I'm trying to like not be judgmental that they were crying. No, me neither. It's just they never do. I don't care that they were crying. No, I'm just like, but you're just going back to the city where you could see a person the next day. Like what are we so sad about? I think that they had a really good summer.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And I think in seasons. past, they've sort of looked at this is like a job. And they don't really like hang out as a group a lot. They don't go out a lot. This year, Sierra was saying like, I went out so much a summer. Yeah, it was more of like a camp. And you know when you leave camp, you do cry when you leave camp. But all the friends are going like all across the country. Right. It won't be, you know, you have to go back to school. But like these people, they could rent the house next weekend. Yeah, if they wanted to. It was weird. So it did feel like foreshadowing some something. It was like spooky. It did. A lot of people. And even Kyle, I mean, I think they used this specific audio because it's, it was sort of like how Lala was
Starting point is 00:17:35 foreshadowing the end of the Trump rules, like how the group will like never be the same. And like, yeah, they, I don't know when Kyle spoke those words, but they put it at a very apt time because it really foreshadowed the fact that things will never be the same. Oh, Sierra and West like hooked up. Like they made out the last night, which obviously makes this whole Amanda thing. Like we've been sort of waiting. Like, did they ever rekindle? And I don't know what happens after the summer, but I do believe they like went on a date or two
Starting point is 00:17:58 because Dumas spotted them out. Well, like, of course. because so here we are now. They leave the Hamptons. They just had like this makey-outy night. They like each other. They're back to being friends. Like they're going to like text that day, the next day.
Starting point is 00:18:09 They're going to see each other in the city. Like I need to know and we'll find out what happened next. Because something more happened, whether it was another breakup or they tried to give it another go. Like more has happened. You don't just like have that sort of night with your best friend. Right. You love.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And it was hard to watch that scene of them kissing. Like it was just painful. There was a really bothersome scene where like West. I think he thought he was being like a really open and vulnerable with Ben when they were at like that snow party. And they're laying there and he's talking about how like he's, you know, so glad that he's back on good terms with Sierra. And he like doesn't really want to rekindle things. Just was like, you know, like last time his mistake was that he didn't tell her that he couldn't do a serious relationship. But it's like, do you have a disability that you can't do a serious relationship.
Starting point is 00:18:47 You're talking about it. Like you physically cannot do it when it's like this is a girl. You literally said in one breath. I'm so attracted to her. We have like the most amazing chemistry. She's my person. She's literally my best friend. But, you know, I have this disability.
Starting point is 00:18:58 What do you mean? Like, why? I know. I wish Ben had... I think that was him thinking he was, like, being evolved, like, owning that. But, like, wait, why?
Starting point is 00:19:06 No, I wish Ben had said, like, why not just try being serious? Barring you from physically being able to do it? Like, he just kept saying that being like, and we're supposed to think he's, like, mature for understanding that. But, like, what are you talking about? This is a girl you're sexually attracted to, you're emotionally attracted to,
Starting point is 00:19:20 you're literally in love with her. You guys tell each other that you love each other. You, like, make out all the... What are you talking about? No, I don't understand people who are so, like, allergic to monogamous, serious relationships. And I'm sure one day when he enters one, maybe it's not with Amanda because they're having a terrible time.
Starting point is 00:19:35 But I think one day when he enters one, like he will realize it's actually amazing. It's way more fun than watch parties and hooking up with fans. Like, it's great. But is that why? Like, because he wants to hook up with fans. Look at Kyle Cook, a 43-year-old who hooks up with, does anybody look at Kyle Cook's life and think, yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:53 that's where I want to be at 43? I don't know. But what's so crazy? is like West is Kyle 15 years prior. Yeah. The staying out late, the refusal to get serious. And it's so crazy that like Amanda is going for the exact sort of guy, but that young Kyle is going for the same girl that young Kyle went for when it doesn't work out for old Kyle. The thing, the difference between old Kyle and current West is West is worse because Kyle
Starting point is 00:20:23 like was always very clear about who he was. Like that's why I kind of like I do blame Amanda. Like we knew, you knew, Kyle has not changed. He is who he is. West is this truly awful guy under the guys of like woke. Like he's like, I love women and we need to respect and boundaries. He uses like therapy talk while quite literally being the worst human being alive. Kyle was very upfront about he has not changed one bit. Like you can say all you want about him, but he's consistent. consistent. He's just like the same guy different generation. They just have different words that they use for it in different like. No, but Kyle was never trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes about who he was, like for real.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I guess. But what I also don't understand is in this city, like they're in therapy. Their relationship is done. It seems like Kyle does not want to get divorced. Yeah. And watch what happens live. Like he's talking about Amanda like like he would take her back. Like he just want to say how he's treating her post West Mandibal. Like I never thought I'd say this. But like it kind of points to him being a good guy because he could. go after him and be the hero that but like he I don't know if you saw like she was at the in the city premiere and like obviously everyone like she's like a radioactive nobody wants to be in here and he's grabbing her like taking all the pictures he made her come he keeps talking to press being like
Starting point is 00:21:35 he's really worried about even when she walked into his apartment he was like you're so skinny like I don't know it's giving good guy also giving there was so much hatred in their marriage and it wasn't coming from him like he does not hate her no and he loves her I know it's really sad and he hated him oh so here's what I was saying like what I don't understand so they're in couple therapy they're not living together he wants to stay married truly he loves her and she just like can't deal with amongst other things the partying the going out the thing out late so the night before therapy as a DJ gig which I forgive him for being a DJ personally because once I now I understand financials and I want to talk about them he needs to be a DJ that is where where he's actually making
Starting point is 00:22:14 money that he can like use to live his life or funnel into the business no but like I think like the summerhouse money goes to like he needs money he needs money he needs money so he's a DJ fine forgiven he's DJing until 2 a.m. Then she said he stayed out for another two hours and didn't come home till 4 a.m. When you have therapy the next day and you're trying to work on your marriage. And like that's the exact thing she wants you to stop doing. I don't, I would ask him. Like a toddler.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Why did you do that? Why can you not stop doing the thing that you wants you to stop doing? But you want to be married so bad. Why can't you stop being out past 2 a.m.? You're like 45. But I just don't understand it. Yeah. It's like Wes.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Like do you have some sort of disability that stops you from going home before 2 a.m. What is it? I don't know. Like that, I can't understand him. If I'm Amanda, I'm like, well, there's no working on this. If you're going to be out till 4 a.m. Yeah. And also, I think that like Amanda's pretty much made up her mind, but she doesn't want to say it yet.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And so she's going through the motions therapy, taking some time apart, me moving out. And I think that's making it worse because I think it gives Kyle hope. Yeah. And then not only does she, I don't think that her and West cross timelines. I really don't. But it looks like she moved on so quickly, but she's been checked out. I feel like she decided at the end of summer. And they don't really technically divorce until November.
Starting point is 00:23:25 January. I think that they separated for. Yeah, yeah. And the statement was January. So it's a lot of months of like her being, you know, kind of on the road to recovery and he's still in it. Yeah. So her like her decision paralysis is I think making it worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:39 But I think sometimes like you have to like slide into a decision. You can't just like flip a switch. Otherwise it's too startling. So I understand why for her, but like for him it's he's been in denial the whole time. The reunion trailer like, is giving Scandival. Everyone's obviously coming, mostly for West,
Starting point is 00:23:56 just because, like, he's really left Amanda to hang out. Like, he doesn't say one word in the trailer. Yeah. He didn't say one word in the leaked audio. He's, like, not speaking. I need to know if you knew about the grandma. I feel like everyone's moved on from the grandmother.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I personally haven't. And, yes, it's a huge factor here. Although I will say, like, and I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but, like, I really seeing Amanda, not only at the in the city premiere, but also showing up at Kyle's apartment, like, weighing three pounds.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Like, I do feel bad for her. And like, it's like, I feel like she's been punished. Like, yeah, she's been punished. And like, it's okay. Yeah, I think the reunion will sort of like be the last thing. I mean, the film. So now watching it. And then we can like start figuring out where we go from here.
Starting point is 00:24:36 What does next summer look like? How did the fans feel? But like we have to, I need to hear what she has to say. How she can remotely justify this. When the person she was this summer to Sierra, like ride or die would do anything for her, would kill West if she needed to. How that person then becomes the. one sitting on that couch, like mad that you're mad at me, that I'm dating the guy that you liked
Starting point is 00:24:56 all summer that you cried over with me. It's, it's, I need to see the reunion because right now, it seems like she's had a brain injury. Lobotomy. Yeah. The viral moment from the trailer that everyone's talking about. And I think everyone's like, yeah, Sierra's like, Sierra's talking to West and Amanda being like, Amanda, you think he loves you? Like, he's literally only with you to spite me. Yeah. She said over the past six years, I've been your fucking champion. I couldn't fathom that I'd be sitting here pissed that you're fucking my ex. He wants to embarrass me. He wants to get his last little word.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And I hope it works because he's with you to spite me. And I do feel like that really points to just like a genuine misunderstanding on Sierra's part, like, of this whole West saga. I feel like her issue with West is that like he never considers her. He never fact. It's very big and carry coded. Like we're so clearly end game and you don't even consider me. You don't even think about me.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So to say that like he had this elaborate relationship to get back at Sierra, like if only he cared that much. That's like our issue with him. So that's not it at all. It's just him being honestly a thoughtless little pig. Yeah. However, if what she's saying, like, I need to see what happened. What's the context?
Starting point is 00:26:01 Like, what happened after this summer? Right, right. Is he mad at her? Do he want to date her and she said no and now he's trying to spite her? Like, what happened? I'm looking for a little more information as to why she would say that because based on what I've seen so far, it couldn't be further from the truth. I wish he like was that thoughtful and elaborate to hurt her.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Like that means you care about her. And the whole thing is like he really doesn't. Because if he did, he never would have. hooked up with her that night. Yeah. You can't. She's so clearly in love with him. It's like literally you could see it in the air.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Like it's so palpable. Yeah. And it just means something so different. He's happy. It means something so different to them. It's so sad. Yeah. It was very hard to watch.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And then in the city, like I'm sorry. I was bored. But only because like it's new people and you know me. I'm like so stubborn. Yeah. I'm sure it's going to be a good show and I will watch it. But like seriously, just give me Lindsay. Like I don't care about anyone else.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I know, but you have to like put in the work to like come to beloved, you know, new Lindsay. literally like had one of my birthday parties at the Garrett. Like in another life, I would have ended up on the show. Totally. Yeah. Also, that couple where she like left for a few days and he didn't notice. Yvonne.
Starting point is 00:27:02 That was weird. That was weird. They're giving weird. Yeah. And that's actually what we need. Like that's the type of shit I like to watch. But I was so sort of like blown away by Whitney and Kenny. Like I couldn't get over them.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I think that they're such a bad couple like pairing wise. Somebody said it's giving Jackson Brittany. like, you know, sweet girl moves out to the big city for you. And you're like, we're just taking it day by day. I just want to say, Whitney has been an influencer for like almost 10 years now. She knows what she's doing, I think. Oh, I didn't get the vibe from her personality that she's like real, like, killer. You know?
Starting point is 00:27:36 I don't think she's killer, but I don't think she's like so naive. Like, I think that maybe she moved to the city to be on the show with him. Yes. Which is also giving Britney Cartwright. It's a good comparison. Somebody made on Twitter. I think Whitney's been living in L.A. Like she.
Starting point is 00:27:50 No, she said she was a Midwest. girl she's from there but i think she's been living in l.a since the bachelor how did they even mean i don't know i just got such bad vibes from no i think um it's not brittney cart right who literally came like fresh off fresh off the farm yeah right into hollywood i thought it was a good comparison sister's a really big influencer right did i make that up i think her sister is an influencer like in the same way that she is or is there an influencer who has the same last name as her no no i think what's the name of the sister jacquil and franz well Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Is that her sister? I think so. I think she lives in Florida. Jacqueline. Oh, of course, Instagram doesn't let you actually, like, see people's handles. Just they'll give you an AI-generated
Starting point is 00:28:34 description of them and where they went to school. She's 2.2-boom. Oh, on TikTok. She's 270 on Instagram. Anyway, so, like, she's of this world is all I want to say. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:46 She's not, like, you know, bright-eyed, bushy-tailed. I don't know. It's giving bright-eyed, like, her walking through and, like, talking to her dog while her dog makes a poop. Like, it's giving bright-eyed and I think she also just has like a really bubbly and lovely personnel.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I think she has like a soft voice. I mean, we'll see how it plays out and like how he treats her. And like could he call her a doll one more time? I don't know why that was really giving me the ick. No, and like even he was like saying, describing her to Kyle. And comparing her to Amanda, that really bothered me. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:13 He gives me really bad vibe. Yeah, he does. I did not like. He does. But it's promising. Maybe she's using him. By the way, I think that's entirely possible, which I am also down for. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:24 So the show is promising. I just have high expectations because I watched it after the summer house finale. And it's like. And now I'm watching. Like these randos in a bar. Like I'm, you know. Yeah. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I'll obviously keep watching. A little bit just because of West Manderval. Yeah. So Summer House reunion next week. Like can't wait. Seriously. Can't come. Like literally having a watch party, West.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I hope you come. He will love it. Yeah. I'll send him an invite. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. in no particular order, I would say. That was like the main.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yeah, no, that's like four stories in one. Yeah. Harry Styles tour stage setup is being reviewed after fans have trashed the viewing experience. I was wondering if like any of the feedback had gotten back to him. Well, so this is like not about anything that we've all said, but just like, I guess he like tried to like reinvent the wheel. It's the biggest thing I've ever seen his stage. Like he doesn't need to be doing all that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:22 So he's. It's bigger. It looks bigger. around the same size as the Zeros tour. He's reviewing parts of the stage set up for his tour after some fans complained about restricted views from certain sections in the stadium. So rep for the tour told TMZ. He did this like this floor concept was designed to give fans freedom of movement and the ability to experience the show from different positions. Rather than being confined to one fixed viewing angle, that open free flowing floor experience has always been an essential part of Harry's live show.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Yes, like they all do the dance like and they do a mosh in the circle. A small area of the staging in specific floor positions appears to have had. restricted sight line. Those areas are being reviewed carefully and adjusted where possible in compliance with all safety restrictions. Yeah, no, of course, even though like restricted view is just a part of tour life, like it happens. And a lot of times if you go to the box office, they'll like move you around. I just feel like that's not what we're talking about. It's not what we're talking about. Also, I guess it's like, there's a reason that things are the way they are in terms of like layout. Layout. Layout. This is stadium. Right. We have to
Starting point is 00:31:19 consider speakers and fire exits. Like reinventing the wheel here. Maybe it was not necessary. Yeah, I just feel like of all the things that people were... Is it different than like GA on the floor? I don't know. He's talking a lot of words about just people standing around. Which sounds like GA. Which GA is like the pit. It's like the pit.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah. I'm going to be in the pit. That's very commonplace. So, um... I do wonder if like any of the feedback, like when you're an artist at that level, so I guess it's just like person dependent. Like do you want to know the feedback after opening night and like you adjust or you're just like, they don't understand me.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Well, I would say if I were him, like I would go by how. it feels on the stage. Does it feel like everyone's having a great time and the vibes are high? Because that's what matters. What people are saying online about a little clip that they saw, I wouldn't let get to me because I know what we experienced all there together. So I wonder what the energy is like in the stadium. That's what I'd go off of.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah. I watch like, obviously I'm like Harry Talk now. I watch this like insanely long video of a girl who was there being like her criticisms. You know, like this is out list. Like I was like, why am I here? So good luck What was her criticism? The set list, the movements
Starting point is 00:32:29 What's setless? He has two albums like Yeah, I don't know But that was like real niche fan stuff Like yeah I could have nipicked Taylor's But that doesn't make the Evers tour back She was like it just like wasn't my personal vibe I think that like the stage was really really big And he's like running around huffing and puffing
Starting point is 00:32:42 And like even the graphics I think they were even complaining that like The images like the graphics were like really And yeah I saw like an unfortunate clip of his graphics where he had like, he's obviously a runner. He had like taken videos of his feet running. Like, that's really crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah. Okay, so the graphics. Yeah. I guess it's like hard when people pick apart you're like, I know, but you work so hard on. Like, sorry. They do it to Katie Perry all the time. They do it to all female artists. So like I am bringing the same energy to, because people are like, you're being really hard on Harry. I'm like, no, I'm actually being turdy. Like, if I was saying it about Katie Perry, like you guys wouldn't have cared. Like, remember all those clips of, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And I'm sorry, she was doing a lot. Like her voice, her vocals we're on point. Sorry, one thing about me, like, if your vocals aren't on point when I come to see you sing, or if you're doing the whole, like, passing the microphone to the crowd during the best part of the song, like, that's one of my biggest criticism. So, like, I saw a lot of videos of him, like, not hitting his own notes, and that's just totally unacceptable to me, honestly. So the same level of critique we all gave the Erez tour. And like, literally every female tour is the same energy we're bringing for Harry Stryles. Sorry, you don't like it, but if a woman ever put together, like such a shit show, honestly, Katie Perry's a great example.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I don't feel like ERISTOR got this level of critique. The difference is, there's always going to be haters on line. Trolls online, whatever. Her own. Her only fans when they went nobody was like because by the way because there was nothing to criticize but like what's this is like the people there are complaining it's not just haters online no no it's like people left the experience being like I mean it was good but like yeah that's like anyone who went to the he's not come away with something negative especially he's just sort of shot himself in the foot because the pricing was so it was like I remember people talking about it before I the tour even started so that was the same thing with the eras tour like she did all that because people were literally like selling their cars to
Starting point is 00:34:21 And you have to give people a show. And so the expectations were high because of the pricing. And I just feel like maybe, you know, the show fell flat a little bit. Hi. Well, we'll see what happens next. Just only the first show. So it obviously gets better. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Yeah. Our next story is some very exciting news. Love Island USA star Jalen Brown is married. What? Jalen Brown. You remember him as the people. Of course, he was there for one night. Who was there from one night?
Starting point is 00:34:45 The truck driver who was in love with Elandria. And think if we were doing like Jolandria right now instead of Nicolandria. I know, but he's married. To his girlfriend. I'm sick. Yeah, he... That's like actually really quick turnaround.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Had a courthouse wedding ceremony on May 15th. I mean, he means business. He's such a serious guy. Remember, like, all those brands, like, because he had said, this is the first time leaving the country, and he got sent home on the first time because of fucking Al-Landria.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I'm so mad at her for that. He loved her so much. And he said it was his first time out of the country, and then all these brands were like, well, it won't be your last. And like Hilton, American Express, everybody... He got a million followers.
Starting point is 00:35:21 He got a million. He was the first cast member on the show to reach a million followers on TikTok, which. When he was on, we watched Mother of Island for one night because he came on, he said, I'm here for a while. He came on in leather underwear. Remember he came on during that with Pepe? With Pepe. So.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Wait, who did he marry? In a picture? Yeah, wait, here. There's a clip. Her name is Joya. This is what he posted on his Instagram. I'm seriously so happy for them. And he said, the Browns.
Starting point is 00:35:49 515. 26. Oh my God, them doing courthouse. Like, I feel sick. She's the luckiest girl in the world. And that could have been Olandria. I know. And what's so crazy is, like, he is who he said he was.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Absolutely. True. Look at him. And not a year later, he was really looking for love. Yeah. And that, it could have been Elandria. And like, I wonder if, like, for one second she regrets that decision. No, because, like, she's the most famous girl in the world and, like, a part of a power couple.
Starting point is 00:36:13 But like. But imagine what sort of couple they'd be, like, we would have loved them. They would have won the show because they were both so beloved. Right. Nick brings her down. Jalen would bring her up. Yeah. And she would have love instead of being like single and trapped in Nicolandria land.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Like totally. She would have actual love like with a man who would worship her. Yeah. Like I don't know how you just can't even give someone a chance who literally comes on the show for you. And she didn't even like choose Nick over him. She chose Taylor. And then Taylor, you know, very famously, I picked Clark. Picked Clark.
Starting point is 00:36:45 You know they're still together. I know. I pick Clark. No. And like they got so much hate. He got so much hate for. King Clark and I just want to say they're the real deal they are I see them on TikTok all the time they're like so in love but also when we poke holes in Nicolandria
Starting point is 00:36:58 like we often cite like they're you know combined lack of interest in each other Nick literally had a girlfriend o'landra being obsessed with we never talk about a landtria being obsessed with Taylor because Taylor and Clark are so OTP like we forget about it she's hung up on Taylor she if she couldn't even give jail on the time of day but now she's with Nick yeah the crazy thing was that like she wouldn't give jail on the time of day because of Taylor yeah who like had no Riz And, like, very clearly didn't even like her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I pick Clark. I pick Clark. And that's that. I be Clark. Well, I'm so happy for Jaylen. Me too. Like, great end to the story. Love always wins.
Starting point is 00:37:37 No, and it's like, it's nice to see someone go on reality television, like, their life isn't ruined. No, not only that. It's just like an added benefit and then they carry on regular scheduled program. It's also nice to see somebody go on reality TV, like saying that they want love. And then actually, like, making moves in their life that prove that. they did in fact well love that never happens no it's nice to see someone going on reality TV and like being who they said that they were on tv I knew it like he was so pure yeah we chose the right one okay which which brand is like sending them on a honeymoon I don't know but can you check his
Starting point is 00:38:06 TikTok and see if he's like activating and you mean like posting content posting content and like getting sponsorships Jalen Brown love Ireland okay yeah elite dot brown 1.5 million followers oh wait he post that got married to my favorite person in elite shape. Oh, I guess he'd went on Jennifer Hudson. So he posts like once a week and it's all like fitness stuff. I just want to say like when did he meet his girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Oh, are you going to accuse him of like shady timeline? Like if they met like before Love Island. So 418 January February March. March 18th he has a TikTok with her so they've been together since at least March. Another TikTok on March 2nd. Met before Love Island like he went on. Maybe she just just. a girl from his hometown.
Starting point is 00:38:58 They met on a cruise. Oh my God, maybe one of his sponsored cruises. They met on a Royal Caribbean cruise in 2025. I'm sorry I ever even entertained the idea. You did doubt them. I just wanted to like cross all my teased out. This is how me and Joya got this thing started at Royal Caribbean. This is my version.
Starting point is 00:39:16 This is my side of the story on how me and Joy you met. I'm sorry. Of course we met in 2025 in the summertime. I love his accent. Alabama. Royal Caribbean cruise, stars of the sea. Shout out to Royal Caribbean. Royal Caribbean has to do their honeymoon.
Starting point is 00:39:34 So I got invited out. It was like a content influencer type. I love him so much. So it was right after Love Island, one of his sponsored trips, because remember a bunch of brands were reaching out to him to let him see the world. And he met her there. So it couldn't be more pure and beautiful. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And it's like he hadn't gone on Love Island. He wouldn't have met her. Yep, because of his sponsor. It's not a girl from home. Like it's someone he only could have met because of the platform. So we all did that. Like this is the greatest news I've ever.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I know. I miss the days where we were all like talking about Jalen. Wait, by the way, Love Island premieres in June 2nd, which is like in two weeks. June 2nd. Less than two weeks. My content plate is already so fucking full. And like we're in such a sleep progression.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Like I don't know how I'm gonna watch an episode that's an hour long every night. I don't know how I'm gonna watch Love Island when I'm not on maternity leave. Like I used to wait the whole day for the episode. Like there was so, like I could have done five episodes a day. I don't know how I'm going to fit this into it. Try being an influence of Foursay.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Try it. No, but I feel like you'll get into a good groove of just watching it every night. Yeah, but then it's like, what about my other shows, Rhode Island, Housewives, Summer House in the city? My house is over. Oh, I guess it will be over and, like, hopefully finish setting up iPad. Fuck off. iPad is like seriously the bane of my existence.
Starting point is 00:40:46 June 2nd is. I want to say it's like a Tuesday. And two weeks away. That's just the way you make me feel. That's just the way you make me feel. Just the way you make me feel. Ariana for Love Island. I guess she's hosting again.
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Starting point is 00:45:41 After you purchase when they ask you where you heard about it, make sure to let them know that it was the terst. Thank you, the turt. You're welcome. Our fourth story, the Housemade franchise is expanding with a stage show after the hit movie. from the page to the stage, well, from the page to the screen to the stage, Lionsgate is turning the house made into a play. The psychological thriller based on the Frida Rita
Starting point is 00:46:07 is being developed for the stage by the producer's melting pot, a British company. Congratulations. I mean, if you know the premise of the book, like it actually does sound like a good play. Is it a musical? Like, I can't watch plays at art musical. So unfortunately...
Starting point is 00:46:21 When they say play, it's giving not a musical. And I can't see like the housemaid. singing actually I can I just want to say he would make an amazing musical I'm personally just not interested in live productions that don't have music but that's just me and I know that I saw one I took a theater class in college and like one of the assignments was to go see a play that wasn't a musical so of course you know me I had to see like you know the the hit show on broadway that year Rachel Wise was in it so fucking dreadful and actually got yelled out for eating my popcorn too loud like just awful like really two days in a row of bringing up Rachel Wise you know when it rains a
Starting point is 00:46:55 It pours. It pours. So all I'd like to say, while I would love to support my local theater, if there's not going to be songs, like, get Pasek and Paul in there. Yeah, they need to set it to music, be a musical, have it be amazing, and then make a movie musical. Oh, I love it. The House made a movie movie musical.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah. Amanda Saferry can be in it, because she's saying. Things, yeah. I don't think Sidney Cing. I don't think she does either. And it's a great opportunity. Honestly, like a Renee rap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Like a young ingenue. Yeah. I love that. She's got Broadway history. Just like, keep running it through the Rinsella. Yeah, right. Nobody can create anything original anymore. So, like, sure.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Make a play. What the hell? Maybe Legally Blonde the musical, the movie. I actually don't know that we do. Like, Legally Blonde the movie is perfect. But, like, I know everyone loves it. Legally Blonde. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You guys. Yeah. I happen to, like, not like, that soundtrack. I know. I know. And I saw the play.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I was like, this is dumb. I don't even know if I saw the play. Even though, of course, if they did. Legally Blonde, the musical, the movie, we could have Ava Philippi play a young L. I wonder why she didn't cast Ava as L. But does Ava sing? She would be more likely to play.
Starting point is 00:48:05 The Prime Video Series. I feel like Ava, you know, wants to do our own thing. She really wants to make a name for herself, doesn't want to be in her parent's shadow. Big mistake. Couldn't be me. Good luck with that. Are you ready for the vinyl? Some business news.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Chilling. I like the way you said that. Yeah, because it's a chilling story. The mango. fashion tycoon family has been embroiled in a bitter dispute. Have you seen this story? No, I only recently started shopping at Mango. It's kind of pargy. Okay, so the founder and CEO of Mango fell off of a cliff. Oh my God. A couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Died? And died, yes. So obviously he was shoved. So his son took over the business. He has a couple children. The son that he works with the closest became like the CEO. But now it's coming out that the son and the father were embroiled in a bitter business dispute at the time of the father's death when he plummeted off of a cliff after going on a hike who his son suggested that they go on a hike did nobody think anything of it at the time like i guess no they didn't it was just ruled as an accident because like billionaires don't just fall off of cliffs i just want to say but not to tell you guys how to do
Starting point is 00:49:12 your job so the son jonathan and dick appeared in court in barc and dick a n d i c tough name i don't know how to pronounce it on d maybe the c is silent yeah he appeared in court in Barcelona on Tuesday after he was named a suspect in the death of his father, Isaac, founder of Fashion Group Mango. What were they embroiled in? Like, what was the issue? So Jonathan, like, took over at the company while the father was still alive, and he brought in an outsider to be the company's chief financial officer.
Starting point is 00:49:41 And so that, like, started a falling out between the two. I guess, like, the dad didn't like how the son was running the company instead. Over the next three years, the company lost around $116 million, forcing the father to come out of retirement and return to the company as non-executive chairman. I think that that's fair. One of his moves was to remove his son as CEO in 2020. In 2024... It's giving succession. Like, your kids are morons who can't do your job, but like you think that
Starting point is 00:50:07 they deserve it. And they think that they deserve it. So in 2024, the father died after plunging down a 320-foot ravine in the mountains of Catalonia during a hike with Jonathan. At the time of his death, he was worth $4.5 billion. A report from the judge in the case said that the dad was trying to change his will to create a charitable foundation at the time of his death. And Jonathan, the son had allegedly proposed the hike together. Yeah, me when I want to kill someone. Let's go on a hike.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Yeah. That's really. What I want to know is like why now are they opening it back up? Like what clue? It sounds like they just found out that there was like an issue between the dad and the son. But like how did they find that out? Maybe some emails or something. It was like case closed.
Starting point is 00:50:44 This is like so TV show. Yeah. It really is. I didn't know things like this actually happened. And then have you heard about the Haley Bieber like involvement? Oh, that they posted a picture of her, like, wearing a mango bag or something and, like, made it seem like they were doing like a Haley Mango. A Haley Mango. Yeah, Haley Bieber X Mango collab.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And so she posted on her Instagram story, like, love the bag, but this is not, like, mine. Yeah. So she, like, made it clear that, like, this wasn't a collaborative line that she's, like, the face of Mango in this moment. And people think that maybe not only was she trying to, like, explain her role in the campaign, but maybe, like, distance herself from this. From the drama. I'm going to opt to say that that's not the case. because I actually hadn't even heard of this until this morning. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:51:24 Yeah, the Mango drama. I saw it. Can I see what these people look like? Yeah, sure. So this. What else does Mango own? This is the father. Classic.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And then this is Jonathan. I'll tell you if he's a killer. I could tell within two seconds. He's like in cuffs looking like a killer. Oh, okay. It's going to be, you're definitely going to be, like, persuaded. He looks like the sort of killer, like who would just give a light shove to an old man.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Well, only like, from the back. He doesn't look like the type of person who's, because he looks like a coward. That's what I was going to say. But I guess like shoving someone off a cliff from the back. So they don't even see a kind of that's a definition of a coward. Yeah. So yeah. If they can prove that he was pushed from the back, then he did it.
Starting point is 00:52:02 From the front, he doesn't have what it takes. They should be able to prove that. Like they have like trajectories. Right. Or just like a bruise or something. Yeah. But also like the way that he fell given his weight. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Wait. Oh God. Please never push me off a cliff. If my weight ever becomes. And like the wind of the day. Right. Of the day. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:20 The Santa Ana's. Yeah, because this is extremely suss. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's suss before. Billionaires just don't go flying off of cliffs, like they just don't. So even before we knew that they were... It's so rare to billionaires. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Like, you have to be pretty smart to become a billionaire. And you have to be pretty dumb to fall off a cliff. No, I'm kidding. But he's, like, older. It could happen. Yeah, I guess. But don't people like that, like, go on walks with, like, security? I mean, you would hope so.
Starting point is 00:52:46 But, like, I don't know. I don't know. So we'll see. So it could be a little bit of patricide. What's that? The killing of the father. Patricide. Is there matricide?
Starting point is 00:52:58 I believe so. I've never heard of that word before. Like suicide. Like, yeah, matricide. Homicide. Homicide. Genocide. Genocide.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Patricide. Matricide? Definitely. Definitely. What about like? And then if you're going to murder, like, both parents, like, like the Riner's. Oh. What's that?
Starting point is 00:53:21 Like. Latricer. That also sounds like patricide because like parents. Right. Patricidal. Matricide is the actual killing one's mother. Jesus Christ. Who's coming up with words for this?
Starting point is 00:53:32 Double patricide. Double parricide is for both parents. Wow. Chilling. Vocab lesson of the day. Well, that's our show. Thanks for the international business news. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I do feel like that's a very. No, by the way, I love it. Well, not that I love it. In a documentary. Now you know where you heard of first. Like, it'll be like, oh, yeah. And yeah, that's really crazy. I feel like we're going to be hearing more of it.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Oh, I just want to like kind of address some of the rumors. I really think so I'm pregnant. Oh, yeah. Because I said the other day, like in all of my pregnancies, when, oh my God, I can't flub a word. You guys, I'm not pregnant. Like, seriously, leave me alone. I'm just bad.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Let me just tell you, if she were pregnant, we would have cut that out. Oh, right. That's the other thing. Be on red alert for like any slip up. Yeah. Like, obviously. The fact that it's in there is only further proof that I ain't. And I just want to say, like, I can't deal with like everyone.
Starting point is 00:54:22 always being on pregnancy wash. It's so annoying. Of like women of a certain age who are married and want children. Like yes, eventually they will hopefully be pregnant and you're not a genius. You crack the case. You're not a genius for figuring it out. You crack the case wide open. So like every other day, oh, I'm a little boy, it's just pregnant.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yeah, right. Like, please. I can't have a flood of the word. You're pregnant. God. Can I just fucking live? Like seriously, stop. It doesn't make you cool to have figured it out, even if you figured something out, which
Starting point is 00:54:45 you didn't. But I just want to take this moment because we're not pregnant. Say it. Because if I was pregnant, I wouldn't be able to say that. Of course, of course. Speak your truth. I just want to take this moment like it doesn't make you cool or interesting
Starting point is 00:54:53 to predict that the married woman who wants children is... Who already has? Yeah, okay. So can I just fucking live? And we didn't even mention the fact that we're twins today. Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:03 that's like a weird coincidence. You're actually like complete twins. I actually thought for a second it was the same sweater. I like yours. Mine's nudes. I love yours. And yours is a set.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Yeah, mine is matching. Like I can only wear things that I have matching bottoms. Like I don't have. Usually when you get like something from like news or PR I like It's on the way. It's in my foyer.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I can't wait to wear it tomorrow. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast a morning show where we deliver the fast-fi stories you need to know everybody on YouTube so everybody you're on YouTube please don't free to subscribe and his video thumbs up we're also available as podcast in our podcast we found so that's Spotify, tune, sit your public video, I've heard of a podcast follow, please by this podcast, find out, so we'll see me of a video and a video sounding and we're happy to be of the main day and we'll see you tomorrow.
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