The Toast - Sunglasses On: Tuesday, January 20th, 2026

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy. Oh, that's right. Confusing because we got so much fucking shit to do today. We had to push dear toaster.

Sorry to the DTQ. Don't want to be rushed. Today's episode feels different. It feels like we are on the precipice of something huge. Why? Okay. And I feel like everybody's tuning in today for different reasons. Like, of course, Brooklyn's eight-page statement, like, needs to be dissected. And I can be rushed through that. Like, he took his time with the statement. It's only right that we take time. And also, it's been a long time coming. Like, years of speculation. We've talked about this story over and over again.

And, like, now we have been a big day. Like, for any one of these things. First of all, we need to talk about, like, just our weekends. Like, we are important people. Like, we played Majong. Right. We played Majong twice since you last us. Correct. So like, we are important people. The traders. I have so much to say about the traders. And actually I know I said that I was going to try and bring like my sunglasses

Robbie Hoffman energy to this episode, like to this show this year, like without having to wear my sunglasses. I have so many things to say today that I feel like I'm going to get canceled for that I might just like be wearing my sunglasses the entire time. I agree. And my feelings on traders like having changed since I watched it a few days ago. So I feel prepared to share. I have to share my unpopular opinions on traders.

I have to share my unpopular, extremely biased opinions on Brooklyn and Nicola. I have to share my extremely, kind of like years in the making hot take about the guy who runs the glam bot. And now I'm like so excited that he's in the news. What else we're discussing today? Kyle and Amanda. Kyle and Amanda. And for some reason, like when Kyle and Amanda got divorced, so many people thought of us, which I'm not sure whether to be flattered or offended. I thought of us too.

Well, of course. Like if I have, I have two enemies. Not to make it about us. Of course not. I have two enemies like on this earth. And of course, Kyle Cook. the low life is one of them. So, you know, a bad day for Kyle is a good day for co-jurers.

Welcome to Cojourner's Corner. I do have, like, mixed feelings on Amanda because, like, she's my, up until recently, like, was my greatest enemy's partner. Like, so I don't really know how to feel about her. Now she may be the enemy of your enemy. Correct. I'm looking forward to the DM. Your friend.

So I just have, like, a lot of feelings, a lot of unpopular opinions. And I feel like I might eat my glasses, even though I got new glasses. Yeah. Oh, we also like chopping. She has a tortoiseshell glass. You have a tortoise shell glass. They have a tortoise shell glass. They have a tortoise shell glass are from Ralph Flora.

Okay, so I have now two. You're not a tortoiseshell glass sort of girl. That's not true. This is my second pair that I have in my purse right now. What are the others? Versace. Oh, Versace. Well, this is, I just want to give, like, a shout out to Ralph.

Because this is now the second time where I've done, like, a big purchase at Ralph. It's such an underrated store. And I realized that both times. So the last time I shop. She's not at the ice cream shop. Ralph Lauren or Ralph Lauren. Hence? I say Ralph Lauren.

The last time I did a hall at Ralph Lauren was over the summer in the Hamptons when we were shopping. in Southampton. And then over the weekend, we took a trip to Palm Beach, and we went walking around Worth Avenue, like the fanciest. And, like, honestly, it was kind of discouraging, like,

walking into those stores. So I just want to give you a shout out to Ralph for, like, always being at those fancy stores. And, of course, it's still expensive. But it's a much more palatable price range, I think. And so that's why I have now found myself, like, buying stuff twice at Ralph Lauren, just because it was, like, cheaper than the other stores.

And I love everything that I get. Yeah, it's also just cute. These sunglasses? $130. Love them. Which is, like, a lot for, I think you've never worn a tortoise shell on the show before. Oh, on the show?

No, I haven't. So I do feel like, oh, you're taking them off. Well, I don't have anything scary to say yet. Okay. I feel like, yeah, I feel like my opinions are like, I kind of have the craziest thing to say, like, when it comes to traders. So like, we'll get there. Okay, I'm really excited for traders.

Me too was so good. It was really fun to watch and I have a lot of strong feelings. So that's always my favorite. We'll recap it, fifth and final story at the end. Let's chat about our weekends. Yeah, before we got into the stories, let's talk. We had such a great weekend. and we had a long weekend, a strong weekend.

We did have a great weekend, although I will say I had three like sort of medical episodes this weekend, which sort of like soured the great weekend. At first I had my, is your blood sugar low? I had a blood sugar like crash when we were in Palm Beach. So like I was kind of in medical distress for about 30 minutes. That was really scary. And then I got hit with a one hour migraine the next day. And then last night just sort of like an episode with my stomach.

And then this morning I got my piece. period. So like I'm just not feeling like 100%, you know. Well, I think the last thing that you said, the other ones, I'm sorry, like a 30 minute episode, a one hour migraine, like fabulous. Jackie. When it comes to migraines. But what you've just shared with us, your truth, cojourner's truth. And what's funny is like the thing about periods is like at least when they're like the way they're supposed to be. It's like, I just want you to know if you hadn't said it, I wouldn't have known. Thank you. Maybe it's because of all the news and like there's so many distractions, but it's not written all over your face. Like it's not oozing us.

of you in a metaphorical sense but in a medical sense it is yes so i want you know you're putting on a brave phrase we would have and you're wearing white yeah which really throws us off the funny thing about period not 50 sheets of red the funny thing is like you know when they're done right they're supposed to be like really predictable right like you're supposed to know but let me tell you there isn't a time that i don't get my period and i'm like what what is this like when i tell you i could have like like seen a rat on the toilet paper and I would have been less shocked. Like it is why is it so shocking? I know what happens every month. It's been happening every month. And you're regular again? I'm right on schedule. I have like a 30, 31 day cycle. I'm to stay 30. Like it could not have been more

timely and when I tell you I've never been more shocked, surprised in my life. Like what do you mean? Yeah. Especially after you have such long hiatus. Of course. You sort of like forget that this is a part of your journey. Your womanly wild. And it can be staggering. The cost of a boot is staggering. You guys, my jaw hit the floor. Okay. It was shocking.

I'm sorry that you're going through. I know how much it takes from you. And like I was going to go to the beach today. Like it's just... I don't think we're going to the beach today, by the way. Oh. It's like cold. Oh, you're not like a water sign.

So that's kind of stuff bothers you. It's just like it doesn't scream beach. We'll chat. We'll chat later. I do want to say that I feel like in the past, whenever. I've seen people from New York or Florida, like, wearing puffer coats when it turns like under 70 degrees. And like these people are so dramatic. They can never. But I do feel like your body just sort of adjusts. Like it is a little, it's like 66 degrees today. And like I put my heated

steering wheel on. I used to think it was like a person thing. But I do think like when you just move to a warmer weather, like you become a weaker individual. It's just all relative. Yeah. Like 66 is your 30. Right. Whereas like if it was 66 degrees in your, I'd be sweating. my ass off. Yeah. And I'd be complaining like, I hate this fucking weather. Yeah. So it's a situation. It's situational. Well, I didn't wear a pubber. It's going to, it's going to warm up, but I don't think warm enough for the beach. We played a ton of mahjong since we've seen you guys last. We're getting really good. Yeah, like I said, my New Year's resolution is to get good. And I feel like, I feel like I'm getting good. I'm also playing with people who are like worse than me. So it's hard to,

it's like, it's a good practice, but I need to start playing with like an elite crew, you know? Yeah. Well, we've got some game sign though. We do have a game. games lined up and it's just like so I love the activities where you just sit and like actually don't move but you're still being stimulated yeah um and that's that is mahjong too too it's definitely for us because ben was like why did you have such a good time when you played on Wednesday and I was like because we literally sat we did not move and I didn't even realize first while we played for three hours and like I had snacks I had great conversation I had stimulating gameplay and it's but I also never moved so everything kind of came to me and that's my favorite

mm-hmm mm-hmm the favorite type of game yeah what else did we do this weekend oh the kids saw a new movie yesterday at the movie theater. Not mine. We don't do screen time, so I think he saw David. You know, Zach's always dying to go to the movies. Did he use his his pass? Oh, I don't know. I got to tell you, I bet it's expired now. Like, but they said it was amazing. Well, last secret Santa, I got like one of the most thoughtful, amazing gifts. And it was for your husband because he loves going to the movies. Um, so I got him like the AMC annual pass where you get one ticket a month. You get 50% off a companion ticket, you get 50% off concessions. And I had a feeling.

Wasn't it a one year thing though? Yeah, but one every month. Okay, but the year is over. And I don't know if there is a rollover. I feel like we've had this conversation. And if there was rollover to be had, like my husband would be using it. And he would have 12 tickets and he literally took 12 people, including all the kids to the movies yesterday.

So. Yeah. Interesting. And you can confirm that during the year-long period that the subscription was active, he did not go to the movies once? We definitely went maybe once. Do you think he used it? I think he used it like once, but you bought it for him in like the year of no movies.

Like now the kids are at an age where like if there's something good out, like it could be a special thing to go to the movies and he might use it more now. But all is to say, they had a great time at the movies yesterday. Olivia and Zach said the movie was amazing. I actually want to see it. It's about King David. That's my King right there, you know? Right. I've heard really good things.

So that's always nice to see. They said the music was amazing. They said it was like greatest showman. You know, I'm sorry. That's big words. No, that's big, like, praise. Yeah, no, like, if you're saying it's like, the music is like greatest showman level,

like, this is the greatest movie of all time. Correct. I actually want to go see it. With the exception of that one scene. The bearded lady and her friends acting. No, but that scene is really good. I'm sorry, you know what scene like is kind of boring to me? Let me think, let me think.

Musical scene. Don't say rewrite the stars. Rewrite the stars. I do feel like that's an original thing. thought. It doesn't bother me, but it's not my favorite by any means. Yeah, there are a couple scenes with like charity, you know. Charity. So over her. Cancel Charity. Charity is over party. Charity Barnum. Yeah. I can't like, yeah, you know how I feel about charity and of course Jenny Land. And like I know I keep criticizing the movie. Oh, we're so on Tiverin pages. I know I keep

criticizing the movie, but it's important to remember it is the best movie made ever. Yeah, but nothing is immune to my criticism. I just want to say. Yeah. No. Great. This is not without, nothing's perfect. I forgot to tell you something. You're being talked about on the talk. What did I do? So I saw this viral video and it was like about, you know, three products disrupting their respective industries.

I know. My wipes, my pets. Three products disrupting their respective industry. Camber counselor? No. And one of them was dazzle dry. And this video went like mega viral. Just people talking about like.

And the girl was like, you know, and shout out because I've been hearing about dazzle dry for years from Jackie O. And I was like, okay, not Jackio mentioned. Jackie O mentioned. And the video wasn't like about you. No, no, no, but like I'm disrupting the industry. I'm part of the disruption. You are a factor in the disruption, yeah.

That is so exciting. That I'm being, that I'm talked about in a positive way. Correct. As if you could talk about Jackie O and any other. I wish I had stock. In the DAZ? Yeah, you really were like very much ahead of your time with the DAZ. Yeah.

Did I talk on this podcast how I got a regular manicure by accident? Like, like Essie? No. It's insane that ESC and OECD. OPI, like, aren't in financial ruin. What a piece of shit product. Like, regular manicures. And I made a TikTok about this and, like, there was a lot of discourse because, like,

I haven't gotten a regular age-old manicure. I can't even remember. But at least Opie now does gel. Right. I used to be like a gelaholic. And then when I got pregnant, Jackie turned me on to dazzling. And I actually liked it so much. I didn't need to go back.

And I can't believe there are people out here paying. And let me tell you it was $21. It's not like, oh, when we were kids, it was a $7 manicure. You know, maybe three, four, five extra for tip. $21 for a manicure that literally shipped before I left the place. Like it was insane. First of all, drying is archaic. And maybe I've been out of the game for so long because I don't dry.

I dazzle, you just sit there for, they say five minutes and then you can go. I put my hands under. I'm like, ma'am, it's not on. And she was like, it's a light. It's not a fan. Okay, I'm sorry. There was no way that it was trying. Even when it's a fan, there's nothing on.

And they have their little fans at their desks. Like, can I have a little fan, please? You got to use your stroller fan. Getting an OG manicure is. not worth the price of admission. It was so, I can't, and like, I get a manicure every week at home with my best friend Margo, and she always gets regular polish. She's just like weird like that. That's why she's going every week. And I tried to put her on to dazzle and she like wasn't dazzled by it. And I can't believe like that's the shit she's paying for. It's such crap. Like, I don't remember

when this manicure is from. It's from dazzle. It is more than 10 days old. Look at it. Doesle is dazzling. These are gold. Exactly. What else is disrupting the industry? I've got the products I haven't heard of like some noise, what are the earplugs? Okay. And then, I don't know, I can't lie. Like after I heard Jekio, I was like so excited. I left a comment and then I stopped watching.

I was like, not Jekio visibility. Okay. Jackio visibility. So important. Mm-hmm. Well, I guess we could get into the stories. I actually have a big day today. I'm doing something today that I need to do that I haven't done yet.

I'm like a little delayed. Oh, was it a postpartum checkup? My postpartum checkup. My six weeks checkup. I'm doing it at 10 weeks. I just couldn't be bothered. Like towards the end of my pregnancy, I was going to the doctor two to three.

times a week. Like, I'm not running back to the doctor. Give me my piece. The thing is, like, if there was something going on, like, you would know. No, and also it's like, you want the clear to be able to, like, take a bath, you know. Oh, that is why I went to the doctor. I went around in the sack. I went at five and a half weeks because I was like, can I take a bath? Take a bath. Work out. And it's like, I'm not, well, it would be nice to take a bath, but that's not like, yeah. It's like, I'm not ready to do those things. So it's like, I'm not in any rush, but. I'm not in any rush to get weighed. Yeah, that too. Yeah, I remember at my six week, to make your thing about me, I was told that I was obese. And I just feel like we need to cancel

doctors for that. Not by Dr. Fox, of course. Like, unless you have a breastfeeding safe GLP1 for me at my six week appointment. We have nothing to discuss. We have nothing to discuss. Although I was curious, like, I never like really look at my scar. I'm like, it could be oozing pus. Like, and I wouldn't know just because like, oh yeah, you got to check the scar. It freaks me out, like, to look at it. It's so like thin and like, so it was important for me to like just make sure it wasn't like infected or anything like maggots coming out of it and maggots you tested negative you only found one and he said it's a really beautiful small queen like skinny little maggots so you don't need to come were you maggot aladdin i know it's actually magid aladdin i'm sorry it's okay these things happen

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You can also find Nero at CVS and Amazon. But if you want to use our code toast for 20% off your first order, do that at neurogum.com, code toast. Thank you, Tert. You're welcome. Our first story, Brooklyn Beckham, launches an astonishing, attack on his parents, David and Victoria Beckham in bombshell statements on Instagram saying that he does not want to reconcile. I do feel like we need to read the whole statement. Like the whole statement. Yeah, if you don't mind. Okay, here we go. And but whilst she's searching

for that, I'm going to give my takes and everything. And I do feel like it's important to acknowledge your bias, right? And I do have a couple of biases here, which I do feel like color my my thoughts. Although I think if they're, okay, let me say this. I think Brooklyn and Nicola, like I could see them being an insufferable duo. Like Nepos, who's never had to work at it for anything. And, like, I do, I have heard. And I remember we heard, we say this every time we talk about Brooklyn and Nicola. We heard that, like, she's the meanest girl in Hollywood.

Bella Thorne once said that about her. And I was actually chatting with someone, like, who would know. And I was like, you know, I also heard she's like the nastiest bitch alive. And they were like, yeah, allegedly. So that's just what I've heard. So that's my bias. I think I also think it's important to mention. As a boy mom, I, I, I'm sick.

over this. This is sickening to me. As a boy, mom, I fight it's sickening and also somebody who would love to, like, you know, lay with David Beckham. That is also a bias of mine. Okay. Yeah. And I think, like, we know David and Victoria better than we know Brooklyn andicle it. Just because they've given us more of them over the years. They've been famous longer. They both do documentaries. You feel like you have a sense of them as a person. You can't know someone completely. But they seem like just like good, decent people who love their children and their family. They have a big family. They obviously

care about family. The rest of the family's intact. Like, it's not like their... This broken home. Right. Yeah. So that's just the information. we're going in. Yes. Anyways, Brooklyn took to his Instagram stories. I'm not going to read all of it, but I will read the highlights. He said, I've been silent for years and made every effort to keep these matters private. Unfortunately, my parents and the team have continued to go to the press, leaving me with no choice but to speak for myself and tell the truth about only some of the lies that have been printed. I do not want to reconcile with my family. I'm not being controlled. I'm standing up for myself for the first time in my life. For my entire life, my parents have

controlled narratives in the press about our family. Well, like I would hope that they would endeavor to do that. So I, this is one of my biggest pet piece. I feel like it happens a lot with Taylor Swift where like a criticism of a person or a thing is like, well, they're so meticulous about their image. All they care about is like, you know, they're very, you know, like they have publicists and teams where it's like, that's such a normal human thing. Like, and if you were at that level, you would do too. Like we care on a small level like what people, you know, and your close personal friendship think about you. Like, it's okay to care. That's such an invalid criticism, especially when you've been as famous as they are for as long as they are. And then their kids

become famous. I hate that too. No. And like you would want to, to have some control over the narrative about your family that's out there in the world because you want to protect your family. Like I don't think there's really anything negative about that. No, especially when you think about like how they went through like major media tabloid drama. So they know. They've been on the other side of it. Back to Brooklyn. Quote, the performative social media posts, family events and inauthentic relationships have been a fixture of the life I was born into. Recently I have seen with my own eyes the links that they'll go to to place countless lies in

the media, mostly at the expense of innocent people to preserve their own facade. But I believe the truth always comes out. to me now. This reminds me so much of Harry and Megan the way that they're talking, the way that they're talking about the family, like the entity, lies. And don't forget that Brooklyn and Nicola had dinner with Harry and Megan. Oh yeah, four losers. Um, yes. And also, I find it so interesting that the media plays such a big part in why Brooklyn like hates his family. Because one of my takeaways, and I saw people on Twitter pointing this out too is like a lot of the examples that he continued to talk about the wedding is stuff that was like low key leaked. We had heard about this

Mark Anthony thing. There was a thing on Dumois. So it kind of makes it look like they're the ones planning stories because like all their gripes. There was nothing in here. Like his spin on it was shocking, but there was nothing in here that felt brand new. Two things. The Mark Anthony story that we all heard from Dumois years ago did not put Victoria in a favorable light. So why would that come from the Beckham camp? The other thing. He keeps saying they put lies in the media. We've been talking about this story for years. And nothing about it is concrete. We always end with. We'll never know. nobody put anything firm out there. And if they did, it was unsuccessful.

Well, Brickland and Nicola did, because now a lot of people are rereading their Vogue wedding piece where they talked all about the planning, yada, yada. And there's a lot of inconsistencies, especially when it comes to her talking about the design process with Valentino for her dress and him now, you know, alleging that. And then Valentino just passes. Right. And Brickland alleges that Victoria actually was supposed to be making the dress for him and for her and at the 11th hour

she pulled out yada yada whereas in the Vogue article it was a years long process we went to Milan they came to L.A. So actually the only proof that someone is lying in the media is that Vogue article because half of it doesn't align with this statement.

Then my parents have been trying endlessly to ruin my relationship since before my wedding and it hasn't stopped. My mom canceled making Nicola's dress in the 11th hour despite how excited she was to wear her design forcing her to urgently find a new dress. So custom Valentino isn't like an urgent need. Correct.

And in the Vogue article, they said it took over a year and there were six fittings, like over the course of that time, all over the world. So someone's lying. And if they wanted to end the relationship the whole time, why would she initially make the dress, like do all the things, only to pull out, like, I think she's busier than all of that. Right. I heard theories people thinking that like, you know, maybe Victoria was making a dress and then,

you know. Maybe Nicola didn't like it. Or, you know, Nicola had like, you know, reached out to have. have other designers make her other dresses and like you know, Victoria felt some type of way about like being one of several. I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I just think that's a bad idea, period. Even if you have like a copacetic relationship,

don't have the mother-in-law make the bride's dress. Agreed. Feels like a good rule of thumb. Yeah. Weeks before, unless she's Vera Wang, okay? Yeah. Weeks before our big day, my parents repeatedly pressured and attempted to bribe into signing away the rights to my name,

which would have affected me, my wife, and our future children. They were adamant on me signing before my wedding date because then the terms of the deal would be initiated. Okay, so the words you're looking for is pre-up. Thank you. That's signing away the rights to his name. Well, like, so this is, I feel like a real manipulation of language because, and this is so Sussex, you're right, like the last name, the kids.

I feel like this is where two people are saying the same thing in different languages. Like I think if you were asking Victoria and David, like what they, what he's referring to was like, well, we asked him to sign a pre-up. And yes, like the name Beckham, which does not belong really to Brooklyn. and it belongs to his parents. Is this billion-dollar company, Victoria Beckham? So what if Nicola wanted to start a makeup line called Nicola Beckham? Like, I think it was more so about business.

And you know what? Like, it's not romantic, for sure. But this is what is involved when you're at this level of wealth and fame and you are merging. And let's not forget, Nicola's not some pauper. Okay, she's richer. Yeah, more money than them. Billionaires. And I've heard that, by the way, her family is amazing.

Like, wonderful people. That's what I've heard. So I feel like this is like, you know, really how someone can see a situation so differently than the others. I think if we were to like hear from a lawyer, it would be like really kind of standard stuff. You're signing away your name. It's your family's name. It's not just yours. It means something bigger, especially in like the business landscape.

So I'm actually not with Brooklyn on this one. Yeah. I think that's a good way to explain it because the way that he said it makes no sense. Your parents aren't asking you to sign away your name as they walk you down the aisle. like they love you. It's clearly just legalese. I know. And like I could see people like thinking that this is so, you know. I haven't seen anyone thinking this is so. Yeah, this is just like what

high profile people, you have to protect your assets. Yes, it would nice to believe that this is a marriage. It's going to last 100 years. More often than not, it doesn't. And you're a dumbass if you don't like protect your assets. You protect your name. You could go, let's say they get divorced and she was Nicola Beckham. And you know, she's not a part of the family and she's going on starting businesses, Nicola Beckham. And she would be at well within her legal right. I don't think this is crazy.

My holes out affected the payday and they have never treated me the same since. Well, it also sounds like his inheritance. No, or there was like a deal that they were going to do with like the whole family they needed his name and he didn't sign it. And so it affected the payday. What payday? What deal do they need Brooklyn for? Have you ever read Brooklyn's photography book? You know that they don't need Brooklyn for any deal. Okay. I like this picture. It's out of focus, but you could tell there's a going on. Just the great Brooklyn Beckham. Just say, like, there was a family deal on the table and he wouldn't sign his name away

for the deal. Like, maybe someone wanted the rights to all of their names. Maybe something like that. I don't know. I don't even think. I just feel like there was a pre-up. His parents, this happens a lot, like, where wealthy parents want their kids' spouses to sign pre-nups and it gets really awkward.

And it's just like, that's just what happens. Like, during the wedding planning, my mom went so far as to call me, quote, evil, because Nicola and I chose to include my nanny, Sandra, and Nicola. Nani at our table because they both didn't have their husbands. Both of our parents had their own tables equally adjacent to ours. So is this like grandmother or nanny? Nani. Is Nani a nanny or a nona? But some people call their grandmas like nanny too.

But she's the American one. So why is she have a noni? I don't know. Well, it sounds like, you know, the parents each had their own tables, but then at Brooklyn and Nicholas table, they have these two figures who like weren't their parents. Now, this is I'm chalking up to like true wedding stuff. A lot of this is like wedding planning where you see the worst in people. I actually imagine planning a wedding with Victoria Beckham as your mother-in-law is horrible. Like I'm going to see Nicholas side there. I think when you have endless resources of your own and you don't need to ask Victoria Beckham for anything and it's your wedding.

Like what is, do what you want. Yeah. I think that like a lot of the statement had to do with wedding planning, musug and a nonsense. And like I have planned a wedding. It is horrible. You see the worst in people. You hate people. And then you get over it.

these people never got over it. So we're still... They had a year of like, Kumbaya. The whole statement is about the wedding. I know, but they were together for a year going to the premieres, being together. Trying to make it work.

But it seems like they weren't able to make it work and they're still holding onto all the wedding Mishigas. No, but also like the reasons for the wedding Mishigas, it seems like Nicola and Victoria are strong personalities. They're both clashing heads. So they clashed at the wedding. They got over it. They're clashed again now.

They can't get over it. Yeah. And so they're bringing up everything from the wedding where it's like at some point when I was reading this statement, this is so in the weeds. We're talking about like wedding planning. Like, girl, get over it. Like that is a part of marriage. It's horrible, but planning the wedding.

You hate your family. And then the wedding's over and it goes back to normal. So he said the night before our wedding, members of my family told me that Nicola was, quote, not blood and quote, not family. Since the moment I started standing up for myself with my family, I've received endless attacks from my parents, both privately and publicly that were sent to the press on their orders. I have not seen an attack on Brooklyn that came from anyone other than like, haters on the internet.

Me. Even my brothers were sent to attack me on social media before they ultimately blocked me out of nowhere last summer. Okay, so this is where things start to bother me because at the end of the day, it's very much he said, she said. Like I said, I actually think both people would agree that this one thing happened,

but their perceptions on it are totally different. Whereas, like, being blocked or blocking someone is sort of like, it's much more binary. Like, did you do it or did you not? Cruz has alleged that Brooklyn blocked his family. Now, Brooklyn is alleged, that his family blocked him. Like, which one is it? Last summer, though. So maybe someone unblocked.

Now someone blocked again. Now everyone's telling the truth. Got it. They brought him last summer and he blocked them now. And this is so like minutia were blocking each other. Like, we've lost the plot. My mom hijacked my first dance with my wife, which had been planned weeks in advance to a romantic love song. In front of our 500 wedding guests, Mark Anthony,

called me to the stage wherein this schedule was planned to be my romantic dance with my wife, but instead my mom was waiting to dance with me instead. She danced very inappropriately on me in front of everyone. I've never felt more uncomfortable or humiliated in my life. We wanted to renew our boughs so we could create new memories of our wedding day that brings us joy and happiness, not anxiety and embarrassment. That they renewed their vows. So it's clear that like this wedding was a cluster fuck and they like don't acknowledge it

even though they never stopped posing pictures from it. I want to say one thing about this, Mark Anthony thing. So it turns out this Mark Anthony thing is true. Obsessed. Like obsessed. This is so Victoria. Like this is so toxic mother-in-law thing to do. but just, you know, as a future toxic mother-in-law,

I have one just question, was there not a mother-son dance? Or was there two? You know what I mean? Because it sounds like there wasn't one. And so Victoria has just sort of made one, which she shouldn't have done. It's not her wedding.

And Mark Anthony made one. I want to talk to Mark Anthony. Of course. Who put Mark up to this? We need Mark on the pot. Did someone put Mark up to this? Or did Mark feel compelled to sing something? He's at a wedding.

Everybody loves him. I'm sure Mark has no idea. I'm sure Victoria asked him, assuming it was like all good. And then according to De Nois, this isn't in what Brooklyn said, but Brooklyn's not pulling punches. I mean, him saying his mother danced inappropriately. Like, seriously, what did she do? She wasn't like hugging him, like, my boy, my sweet boy.

Now a video of Victoria dancing with her father has resurfaced. And like, it appears as though like she's a sexy dancer no matter who she's dancing with. What do you mean? She's just a shoulder dancer. No, like she was, you know, like, you know. Show me. Are you going to get up? Because it's like a two-person thing. No, no, show me the video.

I don't want to dance with you. Why not? Yeah, sure. Okay, hold on. It's just like, you know. She dances like a mom from the videos I've seen. I'm sorry. I thought this was like such a little bit.

But anyways, Dumas had said that Mark Anthony also introduced her as like the most beautiful woman in the room. Victoria, Becca. Here. Not, you know, the bride. So she just like sways her hips and, you know, it's close. Like, I wouldn't say that that's inappropriate. But I could see someone saying it's. inappropriate. I'm like, okay, I guess. Like, again, I think it's like so. It's just a single person

dance that she's doing with, like, that's a solo dance that she's doing with a partner. So it's, it's more so like just not jiving. But I'm sorry, to call that inappropriate, it brings up like the worst connotations. Of course. And it's such, it's an unforgivable thing to say. Like, because obviously that's the takeaway ever. I mean, when I saw it, I was like, that's when I was like, seriously, I got it from my chair. Like, I'm like, like, because regardless of what's in the statement, the fact that he put out eight pages, like, talking about why he's not reconciling with his family. Like, keep it to yourself. Agreed.

The fact that he's speaking on it publicly and so obviously and in such detail is wrong, period. It's spare behavior. It's giving spare. It's giving spare the memoir. Of course it is. And this is oldest son. Oldest. And I feel like I can acknowledge that, like, probably during the wedding planning and the wedding itself,

Like, Victoria definitely took opportunities to make it about it. She's, we're forgetting, this is fucking posh spice. Like, she, it's always all, always been about her. You know, she is this larger than life figure. I could see her being like a nightmare to plan a wedding with. And I could see her, I could also see Nicola, like, wanting to give her nothing. And I feel like they didn't give her a mother sundance, which is crazy. So she just created the mother sundance she wished to see in the world.

And made it like this big spectacle. And then, you know, now in hindsight, he could be like, and she was dancing inappropriately, like all of these things. I am never, and I feel like, yes, we acknowledge our bias. I am really almost never going to take the side of someone who's publicly dragging their own family. Who's gathering out the dirty laundry. Unless your family is a ring of pedophiles or criminals.

Like, for the most part, it's like interpersonal family things. And I'm just really, and if the family's intact, like you said, seems like Cruz and Romeo and they love. Harper, they love their dad. They love their mom. They seem to be this really strong family unit. And again, maybe it's the Beckham machine, you know, winning me over. I just.

But also, like, I'm also a wife. And if I feel disrespected by my mother-in-law, I want my husband to ride for me. So, like, it is very complicated. I'm trying to look at it. And I don't know. I just, team Beckham. Like, sorry, team Beckham. Not Peltz-Beckham?

No. Continuing on. So then he said, wait, now it makes a lot of sense why they did that freaky Pelt's Beckham thing. The name, the name, the name. My wife has been consistently disrespected by my family no matter how hard we've tried to come together as one. My mom has repeatedly invited women from my past into our lives in ways that were clearly intended to make us both uncomfortable. This is so Queen Elizabeth. Like, despite this, we still travel to London for my dad's birthday. So this is where everything deteriorated most recently, the birthday party.

We traveled to London for my dad's birthday and we were rejected for a week as we waited in our hotel room trying to plan quality time with him. He refused all of our attempts unless it was at this big birthday party with a hundred guests and cameras at every corner. When he finally agreed to see me, it was under the condition that Nicola wasn't invited. It was a slap in the face. Later, when my family traveled to L.A., they refused to see me at all. Okay, so obviously something happened between when everyone was harmonious and the 50th birthday party, and he's just leaving that out.

He didn't say they come to London. I only see Brooklyn when, and nothing happened before that. Obviously, I don't know, David Beckham personally. I just, like, have a really hard time believing. Like, he was in the same country as his son and refused to say, see him, barring something crazy having already happened. Yeah, and refused to see Nicola. Something crazy happened. You left that out. Yeah, you can hate her, but you still have to see her. She's your daughter-in-law. Like, refuse, or, or this is his version of events.

But Brooklyn and Nicola were at the premiere of Beckham. Yeah. Something happened between that and London where he refuses to see his children, duh, if he refused to. No, I think he refused to see. I think what we keep saying is like, what Brooklyn is saying is true. He's just leaving out key things. Right, right. And painting everything in like the worst possible light. Yeah.

Anyways, he says, my family values, public promotion and endorsements above all else. Brand Beckham comes first. Family, quote, love. So love is in quotes as if the love is not real.

It's decided by how much you post on social media or how quickly you drop everything to show up and pose for a family photo up. So he's saying they're the family that poses. Yes. Even if it's at the expense of our professional obligations. What professional obligations?

Wait. Was it you making your girl cheese or are you taking a picture on a boy camera? We've got out of our way for years to show up and support at every fashion show, every party and every press activity to show our quote perfect family. You know what I hate? It's like him and Nicola acting like they are doing a favor by lending their big names to going to a Victoria's Secret. The best thing that could have ever happened to you is sitting front row at a Victoria Beckham fashion show. Like acting like they are holier and better like than, you know, showing up for your mom is them doing her a favor.

Like she's this fabulous cultural icon. No, but also when you have an accomplishment. No, but also when you have a major accomplishment, like your family shows up for you, if you want your family to show up to your major accomplishments, like have some. Correct. Then he says, but the one time my wife asked for my mom's support to save displaced dogs during the L.A. fires, my mom refused. Okay, well, now the dogs.

I'm sorry, that's just, that can't be the whole truth. I agree. And also, like. Yeah, sorry. Hold on, hold on. And also. And I am an animal lover. Of all the things like that happened during the LA wildfires,

of such destruction, such tragedy, and the dogs, of course, being one of them, you're going to reach out to this woman who you literally hate. Like, it's like a last, like, you know, no matter what, like, we're raising, we're fighting the dogs. Like, again, dogs are so important. What about people? Dogs are worth saving, of course.

What about people? But not before people. So I just, I feel like that needs to be. But he just, he wants, like, everyone to now cancel her because of that. But she hates dogs. Yeah. And I didn't save the dogs. Right.

Dogs, dogs, dogs. Fuck them dogs. Fuck them raggedy old dogs. And I'm just telling you, I'm not buying it. Like that's such a low blow. Such a low blow. It's so Harry and Megan. The narrative that my wife controls me is completely backwards.

I've been controlled by my parents for most of my life. Right? That's their job. Sort of like what parents do. I grew up with overwhelming anxiety. For the first time in my life since stepping away from my family, that anxiety has disappeared. I wake up every morning grateful for the life I chose.

and have found peace and relief. Good. My wife and I do not want a life shape by image, press, or manipulation. I'm sorry, this is Harry and Megan. All we want is peace, privacy, and happiness for us in our future family. That is why we'll be moving to Canada.

It's so Harry and Megan, because the overlying thing is like all these, you know, he said, she said, but all we want is peace and privacy. And there aren't two people who want to be famous more than Harry and Megan, except for Brooklyn and Nicola. And we know Nicola now,

but you guys forget, remember back in the day, like, all she, she was always like running around LA, Hollywood, being like an actress director, whatever, like coming from a very wealthy family, you can just fund that sort of lifestyle. So the, this is sort of the life that she wanted, and I'm sure when, you know, she's famously like, you know, exclusively dated Nepo families, like in an attempt. Remember the Anwar Hadid days? Like, no, I don't. Oh, they dated for a very long time. That was like her model era, of course. So, please, we, elephants don't forget, okay? Like, we know. this is the life she's always wanted.

And it's a life that like being rich is amazing. And some people who are rich, like, it's not enough for them. And like they do also always want to be famous. So she is now. And so and it is what she's wanted, I think. So. Well, what I always say is like, let's see what they do next. If they sail off into the sunset into a life of privacy and toxicity free, anxiety

free, then like, you know what? Then what they said was true. They didn't want to be in the, they don't want to be on Netflix. They don't want to be at the red carpets. They just wanted their piece. and I will say the proof is in the pudding. Yes. But we have to see what they do next.

That's true. It just makes me really sad because, like, there's no winning for Victoria and David here. How do you respond? No, even if everyone takes their side, like even us, we're taking their side and we're laughing at this. Like, but it's her child. No, it's horrible.

It's horrible. It's a nightmare. Like, it made me sick to read it. And to put out something like that is just wrong. Like, if you want to cut ties with your family, go ahead. You don't have to tell the whole world. And I just want them.

They might have felt like the Beckams were putting out all this stuff about them. We have been covering this, talking about this for years. And we have nothing. So mysterious. We had nothing concrete to go on. And you just took a big shit in the middle of the room. And it was you, not them. No, it was you.

And I think a lot of people are like, well, Nicola's controlling him. And Nicola wrote this. You know what? You were responsible as a grown man for your own actions. This is your family. No, sorry, blood family. And I don't know. Like I said.

I'm really never going. I'm always going to be biased in a situation like this because the person who's like, you know, spreading their legs, telling everybody what's going on inside their family home, I just find icky,

unless, of course, you have something really nefarious. But this sounds like a lot of just interpersonal family wedding planning drama based on what he's told me. Clashing personalities, hurt feelings. And to take it this far,

I actually find it deplorable. And I don't know what the general, like, consensus is of people online. Like, I think a lot of people are like good for Brooklyn. You know, you got to protect your wife. wife priority. And yes, actually, as a wife, of course, like your man should always. But it feels like these two are so hell-bent on being victims that they see everything through this like perspective

of victimhood. When they're really not, it sounds like he came from a family that gave him, I mean, if you've read, literally, you have to see his photography book. Like, it is an exercise in parental love because you know they funded that whole project. Like, it's absurd. His cooking shows, like, it's absurd. It's a joke. And so these are two people who I think found themselves like, you know, as a couple and I think they started to get like, you know, people were really into their courtship before the wedding. Like, and I think they kind of got high on their own supply and, like thinking that like, you know, they're this great power couple like Victoria and David and they're sort of like equals and peers with one another. So yeah, well, come to your show, but you better be grateful.

It was like, well, no, you better be grateful. Yeah. That's the vibe, I get. Yeah. And all those things like that you just said when you just take out the names or place them with Harry and Megan. Yeah. Stand true. So I understand.

I'm glad that they've all found each other in this mean, cold world. That might be a good segue into our next story. You know what? It can be. We'll push number two, but there are so many parallels to Harry. Megan, our next story is that Megan Markle's With Love, Megan, won't return for a third season on Netflix. And I just want to say it's actually a second season.

It's not returning for it because the first season was shot. One and two were shot all at once. So they put out the first half and then they saved the second half and called it season two. But really, it was one season that they shot. And why would they not put out the second half they already filmed it? No matter how season one performed. Now, I know all we do is talk about, like, projects that Megan and Harry start and don't finish. So, like, this shouldn't be shot.

I am floored. I'm always floored when there's an admission of failure. Yeah. Even though, like, while the show was heavily criticized, it was heavily watched. Like, it did chart on Netflix. Like, the second season. Definitely less. Which debuted last August, did not even make the list of the streamers' top 10 shows in the U.S.

The week it debuted. Oh, everything makes it. Everything makes it. Yeah. I think maybe like the intrigue only held people so, because of course we're curious. And then we found out like it wasn't filmed at her house. And like, it really was so surface level. and like we're just eating edible flowers.

Very certain. And I feel like I was a Target demo. I'm always saying like I want more cooking shows. I enjoyed bits and pops of the first season. But at the end of the day, like there wasn't real value in the show and things takeaways for me. Like I, you know, you're not learning something because she's not an educator. And we're not learning with her. You know, someone comes.

There was just like not enough value to be taken from the show. It was like you got to entertain. You got to educate. Educate. Like shows like that, you really have to either educate or, you know, it's outrageous and entertaining. and there wasn't any of that. Right. Like she was really trying to trick us into thinking

like she was a professional and a lot of it was like very elemental. But even that like these days like aesthetic content does so well it doesn't need to be. But there was just really like a serious sense of genuineness missing. Yeah. It was so scripted. It was so performative.

You know, you could tell all of her guests. That was the first time she was meeting all them except for Daniel, the makeup artist. And like that was really just very uninteresting. But I'm shocked. I'm shocked at the admission, but a certain point, like, people, like, companies have to make money. You can't just have this, like, house of cards. So Megan Markle's show, we love Megan, won't be returning to Netflix.

Multiple sources have told page six. After the Duchess called the show, quote, a lot of work. One insider said it's not. She said that? I'm sure she said it in the context of a much larger thing. How it's more, it's a lot more work than I thought, you know. It's not returning as a series. There have been conversations about holiday specials, but there's not.

nothing in the works yet, said the insider. Crossing my fingers for a holiday special. She did a holiday special this year. Right, it was season two? No, was it? It wasn't just a separate, as ever, with love holiday. Loving the holidays with. In an as ever type of way?

I don't know. Okay, we do need to start a list of Megan's failed projects, only because there are so many. Confessions of a teenage founder. Yeah. With Love Megan now, archetypes. Wasn't there like a Disney Plus initiative? Well, there was an initiative.

Was it an animated series? And was it on Netflix? How are they doing Netflix and Disney Plus? And also, did you do a children's book? Yes, she did. Or did Harry? Can you give me a list of all of Megan Markle's projects in the last five years? I think she did a children's book called The Bench.

The Bench, yes. That came and went quite quickly. Harry still owes Random House two books. Two books. So Netflix and TV. Okay, they did the docu-series, which I do feel like to the same. day is their most successful venture with love Megan heart of invictus which is a documentary about harry's involvement in the invictus games and they're also making the polo documentary for netflix polo is next

live to lead which was a docu series featuring leaders and influencers produced by megan oh also known as live to lead in 2020 holiday specials in short form content including holiday episodes of with love Megan and a short social media video content. Megan Tees is a part of bigger content plans. Archwell. Oh, meet me at the lake. Okay. We're waiting for that.

Masaka Kids, a rhythm within, which is a documentary short. I'm not sure if it's come out yet. Let me just check. I just don't think documentary short is like where it's going to. Product launches, of course, are shelf-sable food. Right, right. A seather. Podcast.

Female founder. and archetypes. And then, of course, arch well. Okay, so Asever is still going. A sever is still going. And let's see what happens with that. I also saw somewhere in this article that, like, now she's going to focus more on, like, social content for her cooking and stuff, more like bite-sized content.

But her social is a disaster. A disaster. Like, it's insane. Yeah. I can't believe that. Yeah. So I don't have hope for that. Yeah.

I wonder how much. money they have like for real for real i'm sure they have many millions but like they spend they spend many millions yeah and they want more millions you know yeah they don't have as many millions as the people that they are hanging out with the life post royalty like once you're officially cut off like no matter how high you start it's almost impossible to survive like what was her name fergi you become you eventually end up becoming like a like a just a tabloid sort of like run down and these are two people who started with everything like the world especially in america like the adoration of america um and it's just sort of like this tale as old as time no matter who you are like you could start out

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Yeah, welcome. Our next story, Summerhouse stars Amanda Petula. and Kyle Cook split after four years of marriage. Now, if you know anything about the marriage or the relationship that preceded it, quite literally nothing about this is shocking. There were also rumors. The shock to me is like admission.

You know, she did it. Yeah, that like so many seasons of like they have a, it seems like not a flourishing relationship, but then at the reunion, no, we're good, we're strong, they love each other, we're happy. And then to be like, actually no. Yeah. I do, like, there's just a,

this celebration happening for anyone that's found this out. Like, Amanda's free. But like, I don't know. I really started to change my tune on it a couple, like, I feel like when I watch the most recent season, because it's like, yes, Kyle is this 40-year-old man child. He's DJing. He's acting like he wants to be a serious person. He's not. He cheated on her. He's awful. He does inappropriate things. He fell asleep at a fan's house. But like that's her low life, you know? And she clearly loved him so much to put up with, like, an iota of the stuff that she put up with. I think anyone else would have walked away. but like she really loved him so much. I don't know, after all the things that they've been through,

they had been through worse. Falling asleep at a fan's house is bad. But they had been through worse. And I don't know, at a certain point I just started rooting for them because, like, she really loved him. Yeah, the love must be so strong that these things don't really register. I think falling asleep at a fan's house is bad. Falling asleep at a fan's house when you're married for four years,

I think is worse than cheating in the early stage of your relationship. Yeah. Drunk blackout. Like whatever happened, it was like obviously a mistake. You know, it wasn't like he was carrying on an affair. Like, I think falling asleep at his fans' house four years into your marriage is worse. I mean, it's all bad. You know, I think we're all bad.

Yeah, but I just think that that is bonkers. It is. And I think it's a real, like, it just makes me sad. Like, I'm not celebrating this like everybody else because, like, what I see is, like, a girl who just wasted so much time on this, like, real low life. Like, you know, I don't know how they were married for four years. They dated for many years before that. And she did get a lot out of the marriage, I think. But at the end of the day, like, I don't know.

It's like, thank God they didn't have kids. Like, for real. Yeah. Because divorce, when you don't have kids, is such a low lift. I wonder what was it for her? Because the fan house thing happened months ago, enough that it's in the preview for the coming season that hasn't even aired yet.

So it happened over the summer, say. Right. A lot of people think it's like his new found DJ career, but he, like, has been doing that on the low for a long time. Almost like, we've seen two seasons of it. And it seems absurd, of course. But like, this is a person whose job it is to party. not that crazy. Yeah, it's like good for his alcohol brand. It's good for his reality TV career.

Like, but now it's six months after, more or less falling asleep at a fan's house. Like, why now? Why now? Why this fan? What changed in their relationship that was different than a year ago or two years ago where she, or maybe it just compounds and it's like, I can't take this anymore. Yeah. And I'm curious because this was a marriage. Like, are we going to get the very sort of stereotypical, you know, call her daddy episode? He was texting other bitches, you know, and you find out like really what color of their? underwear was or that doesn't happen like I don't feel like that happens a lot with people who were married when you are like like kind of like yeah to me it's completely like comparable to tom and katie

oh great you're all about the great analogies today well thank you so much like two people who were married for what felt like like longer and by the end like they're so different how are they ever together where it's going to feel like also the whole time people knew this was a bad marriage but they told us that their best friends baba rubba shaba baba babba and so we're like okay Bubba Rubba. You're right. We're obviously like TV's not showing us something in the edit. We're wrong. Bubba rubba.

Baba. And in a year from now, it's going to feel like how were these two people ever married? Like Tom and Katie, how were those two people ever married? It's an amazing comparison. It's so true. So I'm curious like if. And they never really turned around and were like they did this. They were so terrible.

They hate each other and they like leave mean comments on each other's Instagrams and stuff. But we never got a full expose because. At the end of the day, it was a marriage. And even if you hate that person, like, you should want to protect them publicly. But also because they were on reality TV, I think we saw what happened. Right. Nothing needed to be said. With Kyle and Amanda, one, whatever they want to share with us, they'll share on their show, like, in their time.

And two, we've seen it all play out. I don't think there's a lot of stuff that we don't know. I think there's going to be like a sit-down tell-all about things that happen in the marriage that we don't know. Maybe a sit-down tell all about how I'm feeling about it. Of course. Of course. Now, where does this leave Summer House? because like, yes, people break up Carl and Lindsay,

but this was a marriage and like an eight-year relationship. Does one of them have to go? I don't think so. I mean, it's fucking crazy if they continue to spend the summer together. Like I just want to say. Yeah. Especially because I really feel like a part of Amanda hates Kyle. Like, I mean, how can you not?

He's so awful. So it's not like, some people get divorced and it's like wrong. It's Lindsay and Carl. Lindsay hates Carl. Right. But they just weren't married. They did not share a life. For a year they did.

But they were very close. Like this is like a more extreme version of that. But when they ended their engagement, it was like, how could they be in the same house together? And then they did it. Well, because I don't know if that would have been the case if she didn't end up getting pregnant and like literally new life who this. Like Carl is so yesterday's news. Like she literally had a baby like a year later. I think it would have been different.

I don't know. Like is she going to start dating? I mean, I feel like. And also I had seen something that like he had a cousin's wedding and he wasn't at the wedding. Like even at BravoCon, people. more like they were living separately. They just finished filming the city. I feel like they've been broken up for a while.

Yeah. And even before that, they were unhappy. So I feel like her being with someone else starting now would be fair to say. Yeah. I also think like... Will it be Jesse Solomon? You're going to have to like pull Summerhouse from Kyle's cold dead hands.

Like he's not going quietly. No. And I'm so curious, of course, about where this leaves, you know, the stock for lover boy. I do feel like at one time, like, you know, I forget who owns, like, what percentage, but they did not sign a pre-up. So, Amanda is entitled to half of whatever Kyle owns. And I do feel like at one point it was, like, a really very valuable.

I do feel like it's kind of changed. Like, I feel like Amanda would have been like, you can have it. Like, it's yours and whatever. Like, I think at one point, like, they were on track to, like, actually be a really successful beverage company and, like, maybe get acquired by like, but I don't feel like that's the case anymore. So I could see Amanda being like, listen, I hate this marriage. And if this is what's holding us together, like, just have it. Yeah. I wonder how it will go. I could imagine her. And also he's so wrapped up in it. Like it is his whole entire self. Like I think she might just be like just have it and I'll take the dogs.

I'm taking the dogs. Dumbass. Yeah. This reminds like this feels a little bit like Megan. Like I'm not surprised by it but I'm surprised that it actually was admitted. Yeah. Like that we're doing it. Yeah. And I just like I don't know. I'm not like you know everybody, the collective joy and celebration like it's sad like this is a girl who like literally wasted so much of her her life they've probably been together 10 years that's terrible mm-hmm like what does she walk away from this marriage with just terrible memories yeah it's sad I feel bad for her yeah but we'll see what happens in terms of the show yeah I'm curious and you know I do feel like this breathes like a little bit of an interesting life into summer house I feel like they kind of needed it well I feel like this season looks

to be good based on the preview but it hasn't even come out yet so this was there a trailer yeah And then the end fan. That was just a trailer. Oh, right, right, right, right. So I also think if they've been separated for months, then it will happen on the show. Yeah. Because I do think that that's true.

It's been reported for kind of months now, but everyone just sort of let them come to it in their own time. So it's not like they broke up yesterday. But there was also the announcement of like a spin-off-ish type of show of Summerhouse. So maybe like Kyle gets Summerhouse and Amanda gets the city. Oh, true. That would be good. That would be nice.

But yeah, they finished filming the city right before BravoCon. And they came in like literally right off set. And they were like, oh, it's crazy. I think that's when the marriage ended. Oh, and that's actually a good platform for a new show to launch off of. Yeah. Love that. Very Sheena Shea, Eddie Sibrian.

Mm-hmm. Our next story, some drama with the glam bot director. Oh, my God. I'm fucking obsessed with this. And I'm also confused because I was not entirely sure what. So I don't know if you know the guy. He goes really viral on TikTok. I've seen him before, but I didn't realize he was such a personality for like owning the glam bot.

So I don't know if he owns. That's my thing. years ago, this guy who clearly was the guy who would go to award shows with the glam bot and like tell people, okay, you have to stand here. It's a three second camera. Turn it two seconds. He gives him directions. He started filming a lot of behind the scenes and you would see like celebrities come up. You would see them do the glam bot and you would see like if they were friendly or not. And an element of it, not to be like, well, now that he's getting canceled, I always knew he was bad. But like there was an element of nefariousness to it because you're filming people they don't know.

And like these are people at a work event. They're not always like, because there's like a video of J-Lo going viral now. Like she walks up to the glambot. She's not rude or anything. She's not like super chatty. Now people know they're being filmed. They'd be like, how are you? How are you? How's your son? He's eight, right? Like, you know what I mean? They use it as an opportunity to be like, I'm a good celebrity, you know? Because at first he was filmed, and they were going so viral because it felt like the

kind of like behind the scenes. They don't know they're being filmed. What are celebrities really like to the cast and crew? But an element of it always felt like a little icky to me because, like, you're filming people without their consent. He knew what he was doing when he would post videos. Like sometimes people would come up. And so this Jaila one's going viral recently.

She doesn't say a lot. She's obviously done the glam about 1,000 times. She walks up. She's like, hi, he's like, is a three-second camera? She's like, she does her pose. And he's like, thanks so much. And she, like, waves. Like, she literally maybe says one word.

She's not rude, but, you know, she's already having, like, a tough time. And so it went super bad. Jalo's rude to the cast and crew. He ended up taking the video down. So I just, like, I don't know. His thing always, like, kind of bothered me. Also because does he own the glam bat? A fun fact that not a lot of people know is that the glam bot was actually created for the E-network

by Joseph Khan, the guy who directed a lot of Taylor Swift's music videos. So in terms of who owns it, I don't know. know, maybe he like copycatted it and like brings it to a war shows. I don't know what his relationship with the intellectual property. The technology is. But he's the guy. And he's also made himself a celebrity. Like he gets, he's like an influencer now. So something about it always felt like a little icky to me. I just want to say. And now it turns out he's quite an icky individual because this exchange is getting leaked. And I never even thought about it. It's like a photo booth. Yeah, you could book it for your own event. And this woman reached out to him directly being like,

I would like via email. I'm having a wedding. I would like to book the Glam bot, what is the cause associated and how do I book? And what follows is the nastiest fucking exchange ever. Yes. So in a series of messages from 2019 that are surfacing now, she reached out to the book, the, um, his search, she reached out to him to book the services of the glambot, apparently for a wedding, but she was met with the resistance from the filmmaker, the glam bot guy, who stressed that hiring him and the glam bot would be expensive.

He said, quote, just so you were aware, the glam bot is a camera system and personnel used by a network television station for one of the biggest red carpets of the year. Okay, can I read the whole exchange? Sure. She reached out, put it in an inquiry, and he goes, hi, Yinka. Thanks for reaching out. Just so you are aware, the glam bat is a camera system and personnel used by a network television station for one of the biggest red carpets of the year.

It is not cheap. If you feel like this is something that might be within your budget range, I am happy to discuss further. So the girl was pretty much unfazed. The girl is very wealthy. She goes, yeah. She said, hi, Cole. Yeah, it's something in my budget range.

Smiley face. Thanks. He responds, hi, Yinka. Copy. I don't see how you could be since I didn't say how much it was. And it could be between $10,000 and a million. Okay. But to her, it could be a million.

It doesn't matter to this woman. He says. She says. Sorry. She says. Yeah, I just assumed it was very pricey since it's featured at the Oscars. So what are the steps to book? Would you be the person that comes?

Do you just work with them for carpets? What's the run? down. All very good questions that I myself, I'm also wondering. It's a crew of about 15 people plus network setups, rehearsals, gear drop off, camera rental, lighting rentals, insurance permits, etc. Rehearsals? He's saying that's what happens at an award show. We really don't give a fuck. We're trying to book it for our wedding. For some drunk friends. He's just like trying to be impressive to this random woman. She said, okay, so where would I begin? Mm-hmm. through you or through a website.

He says, this is where it really gets crazy. Okay, it's $300,000 and I'll take a 10% deposit to secure the gear, and once I have the deposit, I can do a contract. Ready to get started, question mark? She said, thanks, Cole. I'll reach out by Monday. He says, if you wanted to know how much it costs, you needed to ask.

You just needed to ask. You don't need to pretend you're going to book it. She said, I did. That's why I asked. I want to book it. That's the end of the exchange. What an asshole. Yeah, a lot of thoughts.

So his defense is that, like, you know, someone could just, like, reach out. And I'm sure it happens a lot. No, like inquire and just sort of, like, put him on blast. Like, this is what it costs. But I don't think anyone would expect for it to be cheap. If it got leak that, like, the glambaugh cost $300,000 for you to be at your wedding, like, I think people would be like, okay,

so don't have the $300,000, $1,000 glam bout at your wedding. And to be clear, I thought it was, like, so expensive that you couldn't even get it for a private event. Like, it never even occurred to me. So, yeah, I would have found that fact interesting. And I imagine he does get a lot of annoying inquiries from like fans, like Stan Twitter. So don't run an internet business. Like this is what you wanted and this is what you got. However, I would like to see just to like know where this all landed like, did any, her wedding?

Oh yeah. Could she have afforded the glam bot? Oh, yes, yes. Very much so. Okay. And then of course, like, you know, the picture that shows he's not being accused of racism because she's like a black woman. And so it's like, well, what?

You didn't think a black woman could afford it? Is that why you were being so nasty? So nasty and so rude. And condescending. Yeah, and apparently she's like, you know, a Nigerian princess. Like she could have afforded it and then saw. Oh, my God. I'm crying.

That's what I read on Twitter. So just like, you know. That's the wedding. Like you can sweat. Yeah. It was a lovely affair. Glam botless, of course. She had three beautiful ceremonies of her.

Yeah, like it wasn't a budget thing. That's why like she reached out and she was just like, whatever it's going to be like it's going to be. He's like an asshole. Someone said, mind you, Yinka had been keeping that email thread. since 2019. Oh, is it from 2019? Yeah, committed to seeing the downfall of an enemy.

But why did she just post this now? I don't know. Oh, that's funny. I didn't know it was from 2019, but it's literally going so viral. Yeah, that's really crazy. Like, just when someone wants your service, just send the, send the, how much it costs.

Also, it also felt like he was pulling $300,000 out of thin air to be like, oh, yes, no, he made it up. Yeah. Okay. Unprofessional. It's funny that this happened in 2019 because, like, when you think about, when I think about like the trajectory of the glam bot like career, like that was his heyday 29.

Oh, no, wait. Because 2020 was COVID. So he was acting like this before he really popped off. In the beginning of the glam bot. No, but I'm talking about like him and his personal. Because it sounds like maybe he got famous and got like to be an asshole. But in 2019. And like I imagine in 2019 before he got famous like he wasn't getting rogue emails from people

reaching out. Like it would have been a real customer. Yeah. So he was an asshole before the fame, which is frightening. Yeah. But having a glam. why not your wedding would be sick. Such a sleigh.

Such a sleigh. Never even thought about it. I need to get married again. And get $300,000. And the thing about the, I don't even think it's $300,000. Because actually what I saw was somebody was like, and again, I have to stop falling for AI. Because I saw somebody going on the website being like, it's actually $5,000. Like it's not even that crazy.

Because it's just a camera. A video with slow-mo. Yeah, what I'm talking about? Maybe the network one is like a bigger deal. Yeah, for sure. But it's just a video on a neck, a, a. A camera on a neck that swivels and then you slow it down. I feel like that's a good business idea.

Someone should do an ad home glam bot and then like bring it to weddings. Okay, a glam bot rental for an event for according to Google Gemini. Typically costs around $3,000 to $6,000 for the set up for the standard package, including setup and attendant and then unlimited videos with instant sharing. Yeah, it's not that proprietary actually. For large activations, corporate events, costs can jump to like $13,000. Yeah, and like the one that's like $360 where everyone's like dancing. Yes, exactly.

Like, yeah. Like Gerald. photo yeah right photo booths like a really sophisticated these days it's not what it once was it used to be like the biggest get any of them for any event like for i didn't even question 300,000 not either and now that i'm thinking about it it it's one camera and on like a fancy on a neck yeah and then you slow it down like which you could do on in your phone yeah you could do a homemade glam crazy you could do a homemade glam box and i don't know i just feel like the, like, I always felt like his intentions with the behind the scenes celebrity videos,

like always rubs me the wrong way. Now celebrities know. So like they know when it's glambot time. Their publicist or like the whole thing's filmed be nice. Whereas before you were walking on a carpet, you're at a work event. You smile for the glam bot and then you go on about your day. You're not, you're schmoozing. And so him like filming everyone and setting it up. And at first, like for the first like year or two people didn't like know that they were being filmed. It just felt icky to me. So it makes, I just want to say I was praying for a soundfall. Yeah. Especially if like the crime like JLo. It's just being. Like short and quiet.

You know, no one's like barking orders. Correct. I don't know. I didn't like it. Our fifth and final story. Traders recap. Oh, let me get a stretch.

Let me also. You know what? I might need my invisibility club. I might need my sunglasses too. So two episodes were released. Trader spoilers incoming. This is pretty much the end of the show. So if you haven't caught up.

Have a great day. We'll see tomorrow. Okay. So the first episode, the second episode is where like the big things happened and where I really have a lot to say about Colton v. Michael Rappaport. And I have been like a staunch defender of Michael Rappaport because I just felt like this entire time like he's been himself. He is just like loudmouthed housewives obsessed and like that's who they cast and that's what they wanted and that's what they got. And then I do feel like a lot of people were, you know, unfairly

coming for Michael. And then this episode like if you hated Michael. Yeah. Put him on. It was Michael v. Colton and I just, I have no problem with what Michael said. I hate Colton. Okay, so let's just talk about, let's get right to the meat potatoes. And then we'll talk about all this stuff because we'll all branch off. They were all accusing one another of. And I just want to say up until now, everyone's been hating that Colton's on the show. They've been saying, you know, the Cassie and he doesn't deserve a platform. It is really crazy.

Like people in this sphere, we're always talking about cancel culture. You know, like, you know, somebody says a popular, an opinion that's unpopular. They get canceled, brands, whatever. They're never allowed to leave their house again. But I feel like when we talk about cancel culture, a lot of times we like loop in, like, you know, criminals. Like, Kevin Space. I'm not talking about Kevin Spacey, okay? I'm talking about like,

Camilla Cabo in our old tweets. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. There are levels. Like, I actually like cancel culture for men who stock women and put GPS trackers on their car. Like, call me crazy.

I don't feel like that's the same as like having tweets from high school. Like, I don't, when I'm talking about cancel culture, I ain't talking about Colton Andreoyne because you know what? I want him to be canceled. Like, he's a crazy person, okay?

So you are never going to find me defending Colton Underwood. And I feel like this has been like, you know, he thought he was real this show was so big and it really makes stars of the very like dylan effron edit like i think he thought like this is my time and he came in with his sweater vests and his fun oh are you gay did you play football for 17 years say it again we don't give a fuck okay he's so bothering me so much and then the comment yeah and i think he wants to like glaze over his time on

reality tv because like it is murky you know questionable not like first of all the fact that he was on the show the bachelor dated 33 women. He says both, he kind of talks out of two sides of him. Because he said at the breakfast that he didn't know he was gay when he was on The Bachelor. Right, because some people don't know him there. He's like not really famous like in this new reality TV world. And everyone's like older. They didn't watch Colton Caesar. So someone's like, oh, you were the bachelor? Or they're younger like, and they didn't watch Colton Seasons. So they know he's gay. But they're, oh, wait, you were the bachelor? And he was like, yeah, but I didn't know I was gay. So he says it that morning. Yeah. He dated 33 women

on national television, like in pursuit of marriage and he didn't know he was gay. That's what he said. Right. And then. And then. And at the round table, when his, you know, coming out timeline is being discussed, he's saying, well, are you saying that I'm going to keep being a secret because I kept a secret for 29 years? Well, I thought you didn't know for 29 years. He said, no, he didn't even say, he said, you think it was fun for 29 years of my life, like, keeping that secret. So did you know or didn't, you know, we can talk about that.

But also, I think he wants to glaze over that whole era because it ended with him stalking his ex-fiance. She had a protective order against him. She had a restraining order against him. He put a tracker on her car. There were, like, harassing text messages. Her whole family. And so that's actually, I don't think. anybody like really takes umbrage with the fact that Colton was the bachelor and now he's gay because

like, who cares shit happens. No, and it's like it's TV. Okay. And it's like he's like, I'm sure, you know, he played football in the NFL. I'm sure he had like a very long journey to like of course. An uneasy one. Right. So like no one is like was mad that Colton was a bad. But that chapter of like stalking his ex is if you like you could take issue with Colton for that. Oh and I do mind you. Right. Justice for Cassie Randall. So he kind of wants to glaze over the whole thing and just be like, chocking it up to like. And I will say for the first few episodes,

I was enjoying his arc on traitors. I felt like he was really playing the game hard. But then he started playing too hard. And this to me was like the demise of his arc on the show when he came after Tiffany, like all of a sudden really sort of baseless. She's sitting there crying. Like the whole room sort of. It was devastating.

And he's like whipping up votes. And he can just like decide who is going to be the traitor. And then he's a very compelling, charismatic guy. People really listen to him. Yeah. And in the first few episodes, I was enjoying it. too. Like he's putting together things. And it's a shame because he's overplayed his hand at this point.

And his next theory, he's actually onto something with Lisa Rinna. Yeah, but it's too bad. But so with Tiffany, like, that was really sad to see. And I could also imagine like this game is like sort of a mind fuck. You think someone's a traitor. You're going to go hard for them. So he goes so hard for Tiffany. She's sitting there crying. Like Michael Apopo said, she felt crazy, alone and isolated and she gets sent home. So the next day, he's back at again. And wait, mind you, like what he just did is the crime. They will not let. Ron off the hook for. Right.

And Ron actually, had evidence. The whole point of this game is like, you have to accuse someone. It's not a crime to accuse someone. It's not a crime to be wrong, especially if you came to, he convinced me and like he really,

she did flub her work multiple times. It wasn't like he pulled this thing out of thin air. Literally, Colton went off of vibes, like so baseless that like his crime to me is more egregious. He should have been sent home immediately. And also it's like, it's not a crime to get it wrong. It's the point. But like Michael Rappaport's that.

the next day, like, you have egg on your face. Maybe take a back seat. You know, your sniffer is off. And he's like, well, if I miss a shot, I'm shooting again. Take a sip of water before your next shot. Let me rethink the game. We strategize. You know, work on your shot.

So then comes the comment. Like, so they're going back and forth. Michael is now his new target. He's going to try to get everyone. But like, I just want to say, leading up to that, I felt like Colton was going too hard. And knowing that Michael's obviously not the traitor. Like, he's wrong.

Like, he does need to reassess the things that he thinks makes someone a traitor. you went so hard and you were so wrong. He also was taking credit for calling out Donna as the traitor when he was not the one with that original idea. Like he thinks that is a win in Colton's pocket. He did not vote for Donna in the first round table. It was a bandwagon Donna.

Yeah. So they're having the conversation and Michael, you know, was being accused of being a traitor. So his sort of strategy is like, you're the traitor. Actually, you're the one pointing fingers at everyone. And, you know, if anyone here is going to keep a secret, it's you. Yeah. He said, I'm, he said, just like Tiffany last night, I'm angry. I'm pissed off and I'm isolated because of him.

And nobody in this room would be better at holding a secret than you. Which is I, so now immediately Colton took it as like, oh, homophobic. You're saying because I held in a secret for 29 years, even though this morning I said I didn't. Because I held in a secret for 29 years that I'm gay, that I would be a good traitor. And everybody's clutching their pearls. Johnny Weir is going to pass out. Like, seriously. Like, and they immediately sent him home because they literally just decided in that moment he's a homophobic.

Nobody wants to be like touching the homophob. And it's like Michael, rip Michael Rappaport. Here lies Michael. In that moment, Michael Rappaport was banished. And I do believe that Michael Rappaport did not mean that because he has no idea at first why everyone's like so I guess. He's like, he doesn't even know to apologize. He has no idea what's going on. Because he didn't know that he said something that could be perceived as so wrong.

And immediately once it's made clear to him what they think he said. Johnny Weir said the closet. And Michael's like, the closet. I'm not talking about that. Right. he's like, and I don't even know if Michael knows about all the Cassie stuff, but like, yes. Oh, and by the way, he does not. It is a deceitful person who would do something like that.

Michael's like, no, you just are, and I think his vibe, Colton, like, coming into the show, he's so amped up on like the show and playing the game. And I think he really wanted to be the traitor. And that's what Michael's saying is like. No, and Michael's also accusing him of being able to hold a secret, not because he's closeted, but because Michael believes him to be a traitor. Right. So the crew, like the vibe shifts immediately.

Michael is sent home in that moment. Everybody ends up voting for him. Even Johnny Ware was like, I don't care who you are. I want you out of my castle, girl. I didn't even forgot you were here. Like, I watched you out of my castle. That was not it. Now, the reason I'm wearing my glasses is I just want to say one thing.

I do not believe that Michael Rapaport meant that. I really, really don't. Also, because Michael Rapaport seriously can't help himself. And if he meant that, he would say, yeah, I meant that. And he doesn't like. He thrives off of moments like that. So like, yeah, he would have gone down in a blampton. of glory. Like, he doesn't care.

He would have gone hard. He would have doubled down and been like, yes. Right. And I meant it. As far as Michael knows, given the conversation that was had that morning, Colton didn't hold a secret for 29 years. He was just like a late in life gay guy. Like, like, the thing is, Colton is always talking about his sexuality. And I'm telling you, like, nobody gives a fuck. Nobody cares. He's always talking about how he's gay and he played football for 17 years. Like, nobody cares. Like, he's just one of those people who thinks that everybody's always thinking about him. And so when he's sitting there, like, so victim. And there it is.

Yeah. And he just went from being like the biggest baddest in the house. And that's what bothering me about this show is like everybody came on first episode like Trash Talk. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to murder. I'm going to taste your blood. And I'm going to like it. Yeah. And Michael framed something in a way that they found offensive. Everyone's like, oh, and all of a sudden, stop the game. They know he's a faithful. Send him home even though he's a faithful. I can't believe he said that. It's like you guys are talking about killing each other. How you're going to be like the baddest, nastiest person in the house lying to people. They're telling you they're these traitors.

People are opening up to you and you were going to use it against them. And because Michael framed something in a way that felt unwoked you. Oh, stop the game. And I just want to say shout out to like the very few people at that table who did not vote for Michael. Because the people that voted for Michael did not actually at that point even think that he was a traitor. They just wanted to be marked safe as like woke. From cancellation. But I actually think and they just wanted, I think they also want to do what they think the fans are going to want them to do.

And from what I've seen, like people do not feel the way they think. thought they were going to feel about this situation. For the most part, nobody thought Michael meant that. It would have been a crazy thing to say. Despite the fact that everybody does dislike Michael. Like he's not popular online, but I actually think Colson's less popular. Yeah. And in this moment, they're like, no, that he was actually saying like true things about Colton and all of that was missed. And everybody like with their backs up against pearls clutching. Like it was so losery. And it was so phony. Yeah. I feel like there's like an SNL sketch that like, mimics what this was because it was just like the most performative, I want you out of my castle.

Meanwhile, hasn't impacted the show in the smallest way. Like, shout out to Stephen Coletti for still voting for Ron. And Candace, but... Candice and Lisa both voted for Ron, but like they have ulterior motives. So, like, it was just like a real exercise in group thing, right? Like, it was so, like, herd mentality. It really, like, I now believe that this group of people to be the biggest losers on the planet. Like, I thought it was so lame. And if they don't like Michael, like they found the show like filming with him unpleasant

like that I understand but under the guys and like framing him as a homophobe which really I do not believe that he is like was so fucking lame it was just the lamest group of people doing the lamest thing like the theme was lame

yeah I do not think he meant that I cannot stand Colton it was like the best thing to happen to him in that moment yeah and also the heats off of him they're not going to vote him out at the next round table less that would be homophobic yeah

as well however will the trader send him home now that he's on to Lisa Rinna he did say that in front of a group of people, so I do think that that would be curious if they sent him on, but I also think he might have picked up a shield, too. I think he might have picked up a shield too. And yes, it was unfortunate that he said it in such a big group of people because it, one, makes him suspicious of everyone in that group, Rob. And two, it kind of confirms Lisa

as a traitor. Yeah. But when Lisa found out, that was so funny. Fucking Colting. Fuck. But she actually is sort of playing it wrong because she has been really quiet. And I, even though Candice, you know, I'm team Monique, Candice is playing it really well. She's speaking. And the sunglasses is a great call by Colton. And the over the top reactions when they come in and then not really putting her neck out there at the round table. Which like regularly, Serena would. Right. So Candice is like speaking enough that you think that she's so safe. I mean, Johnny and Tara trusts her so much. They're about to let her in on their big secret. I can't wait for them to just reveal like we're best friends for life and everybody's like, okay. Like seriously, nobody cares. Like they are just, I think they really

think they're doing something. Yeah. And I think Rob's also playing a really good game, but also because people don't know him that much, so they don't know what to expect. But what bothers me is, like, Michael was so entertaining on the show. He had so many good one-liners. Like, I will miss his presence. And then, like, when Moore is really bothering me, she's like, stop talking. You talk too much. It's like, girl, you don't talk enough. Does anyone want to say something at this round? Do you? Does anyone want to bring something forward? Everyone is so scared of being, like, yes, when you put something out there, you now have a target on your back, but like, what, you're just going to hide your way through the show?

Pacifism. Like, hiding and being forgotten about will get you far. And that I just think is the flaw in the show, because the more interesting you are and the more vocal you are, the more likeness that you won't last very long. Yeah, but also it protects you because the traders don't want to eliminate distractions. Yes. But your fellow faithfuls will eliminate you because they're dumb as fuck. No, the roundtables are actually a sociological. They are the Stanford prison experiment.

Like, it is so fascinating to see how, like, in a group, different personalities mesh and how, like, easy it is for people to just become so caught up. in like actual, like fantasy. Yeah. It was really interesting. And I agree, Mora's giving nothing except for, you know, being carried around by Rob, of which I ship wholeheartedly.

If Mora and Rob fall in love, then it will all have been worth it. You're a traitor. What is she going to do when she finds out Rob is a traitor? I wonder if Rob will, like, sell out one of his own for his love, Mora. I also read something that.

So did I. About Candace and Rob. Yes. That they're like not on good terms right now. From like what happened. Because I was also thinking it would be who of a traitor to put up the name of a fellow trader at the roundtable and get them eliminated.

They're seen as a traitor. You know, so traitors will have to turn on each other at some point. And I think Rob is ready to run from these two. Not only that, but Rob is going to help his fellow trader to a certain point. And again, he sees these like two cackling hags who are not taking it seriously. And so he told her he did his due diligence. It didn't sound like he wanted to fight that hard for Lisa Rinne. No, and if he's been in the Colton voting block this whole time, he can't change his stand.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait, but every night bang gets into bed. We have more traders? It's the best show. Yeah. And it's like when I'm watching it, I'm like,

ugh, these people, there's a stupid or the stupidity. But then like when it ends, I'm like, I feel a withdrawal. Yeah. The roundtables are the best part. I would love to like binge it. Well, you could binge last season. I could, but I don't want to get confused. And it would be interesting to know.

Are the people who are always the loudest, never the traders, you know. I just feel like also it's very different every year. I think they choose different types of people. And then also, like, different personalities, these mesh and like some season rewards the quiet people and some seasons don't. Yeah. And I feel like for the faithfuls, they can't really just go on what happened last season. Oh, there was two gamers as traitors last season, which means we got to get rid of the

gamers. Yeah. You need a tabular asset. It's almost better if you haven't watched because you don't have these preconceived notions of what it should be. Right. And like Rob watched and studied and knew a murder in plain sight was happening and he got his ass out. Like knowledge is not power.

Right. Right. Justice for Michael Rappaport. Yeah. And for the viewers, because his presence will be missed. Caniving, colluding, commiserating, Colton. And justice for Tiffany. Oh, that was devastating.

And, like, Candace is, like, such an empath. I actually, like, also felt really, like, I could see why she got so chokedrap. It was also just good for her image, you know, as a traitor. Yes, but also, I don't understand why Tiffany voted for Jam Jam that night because the vote was between her and Ron. So why wouldn't you put more votes in the Ron? Like, she's a gamer.

That's like 101. You don't vote for the 30. party that has no chance. Well, first, oh, sorry, your things are written down before you see anyone else's vote. Oh, I guess also there must be so much more round-to-footage. Yeah. I don't think they know and knew in that woman that she was going home. No, no, no.

But it's like the people were targeting her and Ron. Why vote for someone that no one's really talking about? Maybe there was like a convo about jam jam-jam. Yeah. Maybe there was and they cut it because it's uninteresting. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's our show.

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