The Toast - Swirly Girl Summer: Wednesday, June 19th, 2024
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Good morning, Millennials!
Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday.
That's right, our hard work, it's starting to pay off.
Like, we can't get ahead of ourselves.
It's not like Thursday or Friday or anything.
But it's not Tuesday.
No, we are making strides.
We are ascending the mountain of the week.
Yes, I love that.
The week is a mountain.
And it's all about the climb.
And the view is a mountain and it's all about the climb and the view is fucking amazing
and this Wednesday view we're about to ascend and that's kind of the best part not when you're at
the top of the mountain but when you're almost there yeah it's euphoric and you have everything
to look forward to the hardest of the work is behind you Wednesday is a mountain you guys and we're almost at the
peak Jackie and I are both wearing sets from our new summer merch drop I'm wearing the lilac set
Jackie's wearing the cerulean if you will the cerulean blue toasty set that has our graphic
design on the back what would we call that it's kind of just our imaging you know our brand message it has our imaging on
the back that is so cute there's so many like easter eggs toasty nuggets in there it'll just
keep you smiling throughout the day it's giving jumanji you know it is we should make a toasty
board game you would love that okay like I had that idea a couple maybe like a year or two ago
I was in my old apartment so at least two years ago and I had like started a couple, maybe like a year or two ago. I was in my old apartment, so at least two years ago.
And I had like started, it was like, I was thinking of doing like a toasty card game.
I didn't know if it should be like toast centric or pop culture centric.
And then I like tried to like find like the manufacturing and like the people.
And I gave up after like 10 minutes.
I'm like, where do you start?
Not a card game though.
Because if you had said a toasty card game, I would have said no. A board game where there's like pieces.
It's like Candyland, but Toastyland.
I know, but I do feel like card games are the new frontier.
Like when I walk the game aisle at Target,
it's like all these different card games,
like Cards Against Humanity really started,
Apples to Apples vibes.
Like everybody's like recreating that with like different themes,
messaging, things of that nature.
And I thought if there was like a pop culture one,
like helmed by the two,
like the most influential pop culture podcasts,
I thought like perhaps people would like it for our for our followers but then also like for just people
who are into pop culture right no but there would have to be swirly jokes in there a card game would
be super easy honestly it's just paper yeah no I just didn't know like seriously I was I was on
line like trying to figure out how to make a custom board game and card game sorry and then
I ended up on like you can make one set like a gift
for someone I'm like no no I need thousands yeah I almost did that for my husband for his birthday
one year cute because you know he loves monopoly so to get him like zackopoly but there are companies
that do that it's like six thousand dollars yeah yeah but it was like a big birthday so I was like
but is that yeah I don't know why I didn't do it.
I might have asked him because I'm not going to like do all that work
and spend all that money like if it's not something he's going to like.
And I didn't get the vibe he was dying for.
No, but if you go on like Wayfair or no,
the one that everybody loves is the one from Pottery Barn.
It's like a very, it's not custom,
but it's aesthetic Monopoly that isn't folded up and put in a box.
It's meant to be like a table centerpiece.
It's like wooden mahogany.
It's like $3,000.
And at that point, I might as well make Zachopoly
and like put my thought into it
where everything is like Zach themed.
Yeah.
Maybe one day.
That's also just a fun project for me.
Like I would really have fun with that.
You put like, you know, the street he grew up on,
where he went to school.
Like it's cute.
Like the cowboys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The stadium. Honestly, after last night, I have to put he went to school. Like, it's cute. Like, the Cowboys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The stadium.
Honestly, after last night, I have to put the Panthers because we're Panthers fans now.
Okay, Jackie, like, was out and about at a kind of important cultural sports moment last night.
I was.
We went to game five of the Stanley Cup, Panthers versus Oilers.
It's here in Florida.
And thank you to LaCroix who brought me, which was so much fun.
And I was already excited to go. I actually have to thank Ariana Grande because without her,
I might never have gone because it was from that conversation that LaCroix gleaned that
Yara Girl wanted to go to the game, mostly because I said it, they didn't have to glean much.
And that's how it all came together. So I want thank Ari and Spongebob for that how was it it was amazing first of all we got there right in the
nick of time and I literally felt like Forrest Gump like I was just in the middle of this major
cultural moment and I'm like how did I get here how me yeah like it was very very exciting the
energy was electric and it was so Floridian like I really
felt like a Floridian and I was feeling Florida proud wow I haven't lived here that long so I
haven't experienced that many moments but I was like these are my people my country man like
Florida baby Florida um okay and they lost like not to be a downer. So yes, they lost, which was bad news for the state.
Definitely good news for the advertisers because there'll be another game.
If this Florida team had won last night, they would have like won the Stanley Cup.
They would have won the Stanley Cup.
So they lost, which was a loss for the state.
Definitely.
But it was kind of a win for Zach and I because we made the decision
with two minutes and 30 seconds left in the game.
The Panthers were down 4-3 but
if they had scored which you can score any minute in hockey it's not like football where you need a
lot of time if they had scored it would have gotten to overtime and if they had won the Stanley Cup
last night like it would have been insanity in the stadium and we would have missed that but I was
like it's not worth us getting stuck in traffic getting home an hour later we had to park so far
because we got there like pretty late
and the Floridians had already taken up every curb.
The way people parked in the stadium,
Zach was like, I've never seen anything like this in my life.
We parked up on the curb.
It was hysterical.
That is so funny.
It was so funny.
So we're literally, we hear the countdown clock going.
We're still walking to our car.
We break out in a run.
My aura ring is like, we're exercising at midnight. Okay um but they wound up losing which was good for us we got out
of the stadium before the rush and it was a breeze what is a better feeling than leaving like an arena
or a stadium and timing it fucking perfectly even our arrival was timed perfectly we didn't miss the
national anthem which i thought we were going to who's sang it? Oh, she's a burgeoning artist. Her name was like Morgan Alex or Alex Morgan. She did a really nice
job and everything was just really great. Hockey is so much fun. It's really stressful. Like I was
really, and anything could change on a dime. So I'm literally sitting there like this. And then
I'm like, I watch, I feel my smile fall when they take the puck back I like where I mean I like going to hockey games I've only been to a few
but it's so cold in the arena and that other games like with all the humanity in one facility
it's hot and you always want to wear like a cute bomber jacket it's hard to maintain your temperature
at a hockey game like you're chilly and then you just look so small and frail because you're just
like chittery chattering your teeth yeah I was worried about being cold so I couldn't wear a
seam while I had a hard time getting dressed also the Panthers colors are not my colors because you're just like chittery chattering your teeth. Yeah, I was worried about being cold so I couldn't wear a seam.
Well, I had a hard time getting dressed.
Also the Panthers colors are not my colors.
So that's something that I'm gonna have to deal with.
Red or, it's not black, it's like a midnight navy blue.
Even so I don't wear navy, let alone a darker than,
like it was black and red, which wasn't for me,
but I made it work.
And it wasn't about me, unfortunately.
Don't say that, don't say that.
Well, for me it was, it was just so fun.
But I will say I'm shocked that the, like, no shade.
And I love, I'm Panther strong.
But you know, you have to be able to call out your faves.
Of course.
I am shocked that this team is in the Stanley Cup.
They played like ass last night.
I don't know if last night was a bad game or like,
no one could make a pass.
They were just like butting around
I have to imagine they had a really bad night because I was like this is not beautiful hockey
well here's a million dollar question can you name five hockey players no and I was like first of all
when you're in the arena you don't hear the announcers talking about the players really
but I really wanted to commit I'm like I I literally
was halfway through the game I'm like I haven't learned one name then I see in front of me
everyone's wearing jerseys Bombrowski so I'm like I need to commit some of these names to memory
all I've got from last night was Bombrowski and that's one that's a last name that's one person's
last so you don't know his first no but but then a couple people were messaging me that I actually should have been rooting for the Oilers
because there is a Jew on the Oilers, Zach.
Let me get his last name.
And he's like a wonderful PJOM pro-Israel Jew on the Oilers.
Oilers, Jewish.
And I don't think the Panthers can say the same.
Zach Hyman.
Zach Hyman.
Yep, that's it.
He attended the United Synagogue Day School
and graduated with honors from a Jewish high school,
the Community Hebrew Academy of Toronto.
Claudia.
He wrote two children's books, and he wears number 18.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
I stan.
What state is the Oilers?
Let me guess.
Let me guess.
It's giving, like, Baltimore.
Edmonton, Canada.
And they also sang the Canadian National Anthem. is the Oilers let me guess let me guess it's giving like Baltimore Edmonton Canada you know
they and they also they sang the Canadian national anthem and you know that's like my third favorite
national anthem yeah I did know that um I also like don't understand that like all of our sports
leagues are national NHL except in the NBA there's like this weird thing that there's one team for Toronto right uh what's the
Rapids yes very good and it's always like this weird thing it's like you are not like a part
of this but okay we'll allow it sure with hockey there's like a bunch of so it's kind of like a
transatlantic league it's really like a North league, but I don't think Mexico has a team, so that's rude.
Let's see if he has a girlfriend, Zach Hyman.
I'm obsessed.
He does.
He's married.
He's married.
He has written children's books.
Her name is Alana.
So on the one hand, the Panthers won the first three games,
and actually the fourth game was in Edmonton,
and we were a little nervous that the Panthers would win because that would mean that we
couldn't go to game five.
There wouldn't be one.
Right.
And then happily, there was a game five that we were able to attend and they were stinking
up the court.
And for a second, I was feeling like, oh, maybe it's us.
Like maybe we're bad luck.
But no, I think we have the opposite effect.
Ever since we moved to Florida, like all of our teams have been crushing life.
It's kind of you.
Multiple.
It's it's literally me.
We're in the Stanley Cup.
FAU was in the basketball finals.
I think last year there were all three Florida football teams made it to the playoffs.
Yeah, they did a good job.
Okay, wait.
I'm learning so much about this guy and his wife.
First of all, she's a very high powered attorney in the Toronto Financial District.
He loves a strong woman.
Where did they meet?
Princeton University, where he was
playing hockey and she was you know a scholar I know someone who went to Princeton so maybe
they're friends no I think that they're older they met well she's older than me. She graduated law school in 2017.
Okay.
I feel like the person we both know.
Who?
Might know him.
Dana's husband.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm obsessed with the children's book of it all.
Yeah, what are they called?
I closed the tabs.
I should get one.
You should definitely get one.
Support Jewish athletes, support Jewish authors.
Yeah.
Support Jewish podcasters.
Send today's episode to somebody who needs it.
All's to say, it was a great night out.
Panthers, you'll get them on the next one.
Also, I was saying to Zach, it's so inconvenient
that the two teams in the finals are the Florida
and the Edmonton because they're going back and forth. Like that's a long plane
ride. Coast to coast. Couldn't be further apart. So true. Hopefully they're flying private.
Well, then we were asking that question. I think they get a commercial plane to themselves is what
happens. Yeah. Well, I'm so glad you went. I'm so glad you had a blast. You looked garge.
Thank you. We had so much fun. We love hockey now. Panthers strong. All's to say I'm so glad you went. I'm so glad you had a blast. You looked garge. Thank you. We had so much fun. We love hockey now.
Panthers strong.
All's to say, I'm going to include Panthers on Zachopoly.
And I just want to give another thank you to LaCroix.
And the girls were such swirlies who worked for LaCroix Toasters.
And they were so wonderful.
And we really had the best time.
Thank you.
Yesterday, Jackie and I, we got on the phone like late, later in the evening.
And we looked at each other and we said, this has been hands down the single most productive day of my life.
Yesterday we were doing so much.
We made, you know, a lot of big decisions for what's going to be at our live show.
And they low key start next week.
If you head to thetoastpodcast.com, Jackie and I are doing, what is it, a total of nine live shows.
Four of them in New York City at the Beacon Theater and the remaining ones are going to be at the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center.
We have released a few more tickets, so head over to thetoastpodcast.com. We have links to
all the shows. No, it's not thetoastpodcast.com. I'm sorry. It's thetoastpodcast.com slash tour.
And we have links to everything. Come see us. It's going to be so fabulous. I'm so excited.
We are getting some of our music selects ready, lots of toasty bangers being included, fun games,
trips to the Cape.
I'm so excited for that.
Also, when I did my book signing,
so many of the girlies were like,
we're coming to the Beacon.
Like so many people are coming from far and wide.
So we just did release more tickets, as Claudia said.
Turns out we don't have as many friends and family as we thought we did.
No, not us reserving 100 tickets each show
for like all the people in our life
who are going to want to come.
So it's 100 for every show.
That's 400.
We literally put our list together.
It's like 11 people.
So yeah, we have tickets to sell.
Which is great news for you guys.
If you didn't get tickets
and even if you don't live in the city
and you want to plan a trip,
like now you can do that. All's to 27th and 28th literally next week are the first
ones and then August 1st and 2nd are the last two in the city the rest are in scattered throughout
July in West Hampton which is going to be fabulous so it's a swirly summer we hope to see you there
the toast podcast.com slash tour I saw in the Spritz account, they called it Swirly Girl Summer.
Yeah, I love that.
That's what you get when you have a Gen Zer working for you,
like doing social media.
But is it Swirly Girlie Summer?
No, no.
What was the first thing you said?
I liked it.
Swirly Girl Summer.
It's Swirly Girl Summer.
It really is Swirly Girl Summer.
It's Ready Feeling That Way.
We're in our merch, which you can get at ShopToastMerch.com.
Everything's coming up Swirl.
That is definitely true.
Also, title, Swirly Girl Summers, because I'm going to forget that.
Just in case.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I like that.
Unless something better happens.
You never know.
You never know.
So.
Now that you're caught up on hockey, I'm so cracking up that last week we didn't know
shit about hockey.
We didn't even know that it was happening.
And now we have a hockey expert on the podcast.
For sure.
Also, I was sitting kind of close to the media booth and I like had the itch.
Jackie, you are the media booth, please.
I had the itch.
I was like, I should be in there.
I'd rather see you in there shaking that thing.
Yeah.
So this is a hockey podcast, sports podcast, which it's always been.
But now we can add hockey to our roster of things we know so much about.
And that's the thing.
Last week we said we know nothing about this.
And here we are, like you said, having an expert on the show.
Don't put yourself in a box.
No.
Never stop growing
evolving and learning be open to all things it's so true I feel like that's always the case with
us like we don't know anything about something and then we really immerse ourselves to become
experts and then it's our new personality Jackie sourdough no and then we like seriously enrage a
community totally but just be glad we've arrived you've been waiting for us it's so true we're all No, and then we like seriously enrage a community. Totally.
But just be glad we've arrived.
You've been waiting for us.
It's so true.
We're all on our own timelines.
Run your own race, la.
Run your own race, la.
That's a good motto.
I like that one.
Run your own race.
Oh, I just heard another motto from the Celine Dion documentary.
It was a good one.
She said, if you want to go fast,
go alone.
If you want to go far,
go together.
Yeah.
Because she was saying how the people who work with her,
like from all aspects,
whether it's like in her house or on her tour,
she's worked with for like over 30 years.
And she,
every time she was referring to her like live shows,
she would be like,
when people come to our shows,
it's like,
well,
it's your show,
but that's generous of you.
Yeah, no, I like that.
Me too.
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first story the big story of the week developing story justin timberlake new information is coming
out about his dwi he had bloodshot eyes and insisted he only drank one martini before the dwi
arrest so more details about his arrest have emerged in the criminal complaint obtained by
page six on tuesday the arresting officer of the Sag Harbor Village Police Department in New York
allegedly observed Timberlake, who was driving a 2025 grade BMW,
ooh, a car from the future,
said, quote, failed to stop at a posted stop sign and twice failed to keep to the right side of the road.
What's also funny is apparently this police officer was younger.
Like 22, they say. This part of the police report is going viral and he didn't recognize Justin Timberlake because like I mean
too young for you bro Justin Timberlake and like NSYNC but him Justin specifically is really kind
of like a the the image the face of millennialism yeah no it's this is really um Justin Timberlake
is choogy.
Yeah, so he pulled the musician over,
at which point, quote,
it was ascertained that Timberlake was operating said vehicle
in an intoxicated condition
and that his eyes were bloodshot and glassy.
A strong odor of an alcoholic beverage
was emanating from his breath.
He was unable to divide attention.
He had slowed speech.
He was on steady foot,
and he performed poorly
on all standardized field sobriety tests. Yes, his has emerged those eyes are looking glassy his mugshot has emerged
and I think that the Sag Harbor Police Department is using a Canon G7X because I have never seen a
mugshot so crystal clear and like well lit there's a ring light on there like everyone's mugshot is
like a grainy piece of shit his His looks like a passport photo. Nice.
His eyes look really glassy, really red.
A lot of details that came out went viral.
Obviously, like the police officer being like 22 and not knowing who Justin Timberlake was,
took the world by storm.
But also, there's dialogue in some of the body cam footage that has been transcribed.
And Justin says to himself, well, this is going to ruin the tour.
And the policeman says,
what tour?
Like, he literally doesn't know.
Literally us.
And Justin's like,
the world tour.
Claudia, that's us.
Like, literally us.
Any minor inconvenience this summer.
Jackie, us realizing that we have
a hundred tickets for our friends and family.
Me not placing click to buy on my shopping cart.
Actually.
For dresses.
But I did yesterday, you guys. So did I did I I did revolve and I did uh Zara oh cute I did sax.com and now I'm perusing
forward slash revolve yeah so just stay tuned for the looks being churned out at the Beacon
Theater next week yeah not us like needing nine bussing looks. I know like Jackie and I were saying to
each other are we gonna have like one tour outfit that we wear at every stop or you know are we just
going balls to the wall with the wardrobe budget and of course Jackie said we're going balls to
the wall with the wardrobe budget which I did agree with um and that that's really tough because
I can barely find one dress like that I like let alone nine. Right it's a crazy endeavor. We're
going dresses or we're going like are we open to like rompers, jumpsuits, tops,
things of that nature?
Fancy wear.
Fancy, you know, anything nice.
Cocktail chic.
Yeah.
It could be shorts and a blouse, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You look nice.
You look good.
Yeah.
So.
Back to Justina.
One martini.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah.
Like. And. Sure. Yeah. Like, hey, hey.
Also, Jessica Biel was filming a period piece in the city yesterday.
Yeah, so she's just like, those paparazzi pictures came out.
She's letting everyone know, like, I have won a part of this.
I was hours away.
I was working.
And it's weird that, like, he was in the Hamptons and she was in the city.
What are you doing in the Hamptons by yourself?
Yeah, or if, like, she's working in the Hamptons and she was in the city and like what are you doing in the Hamptons by yourself yeah or if like she's working in the city like they should either both be out there or both be in the city yeah no and it's like she's working in the city so like why don't you stay home and
help with the kids I don't know it's weird it's weird I know I literally know the entirely like
hate you love all these details,
keep them coming, love the memes.
Everyone's kind of been waiting for this moment.
And the internet has not disappointed.
They have gone far above and beyond the call of duty.
And I'm grateful as an internet user.
Ugh, this is gonna ruin the tour.
No, literally us.
Okay, well, we'll keep you posted on what Justin does next but
it's not oh and did you see there's the photo of him in cuffs that's gone viral he's like stepping
out the back door of a police station and I think the cop escorting him he looks super young
is the cop oh yes I did see that picture that's the one people are memefying. Oh my God.
It's also, I don't know why,
like somebody's out to get Justin Timberlake.
Every like piece of evidence in this case is like so crystal clear.
It's broad daylight when he leaves the police station.
The person is so close to him
or is using like a hundred millimeter lens.
Like it's crystal fucking clear.
The content is supreme.
Yeah, but I guess he was like in the drunk tank and couldn't leave till morning.
Like imagine.
And by then the paparazzi already knew he was arrested.
So they're out there.
Imagine you're just like a local drunkard who frequents the drunk tank,
you know, on a weekly or biweekly basis.
And, you know, you see the regulars.
You walk in and then you see Justin Timberlake.
Are you happy or are you angry?
Depends who you are.
Oh, you're happy because like you're selling your story for at least 25 grand to the National
Inquirer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
And paydays like that don't come by often.
You know, you have to sort of grab them when they come.
I don't know about 25 grand, but you could definitely have a moment.
You know, you could definitely even just even for some for some excitement to get up, to tell your story.
In your personal life.
For free.
Yeah, yeah.
Or like to do a little video for the local news.
Oh, yeah.
You could become a local star.
Right, and then perhaps your local news interview goes viral a la Kimmy Schmidt, you know?
They're alive, damn it.
It's a miracle.
Yeah.
Things of that nature.
Big things could happen. What is things of that nature. Big things could happen.
What is things of that nature from?
Like, why do we say that?
Like, not for, there's no lore.
There's not like a movie reference?
No, I don't think so.
Things of that nature.
It's not.
Okay.
It's not giving.
Oh, by the way, I have had a referendum on our referendum about it's giving.
You want to run ag?
No.
It turns out what we used to say is it feels like or that sort of like.
And I think it's giving is a better way to say that more concise.
You don't have to say the word like.
I'm here for it's giving.
It's not like it replaced something that was a good way to say it it's giving she made a decision it feels like yeah
it's giving lame sauce lame sauce so that's an old school jargon I sometimes like to have a little
bit of lame sauce with a little whatever sauce.
So do I. The combo. Some people feel like it's too salty. I don't. I think it's
perfectly balanced. Chef's kiss. When Ben and I open our sandwich shop, which by the way,
like Ben really wants to open a sandwich shop with me. Okay. So two things. One,
we haven't spoken about it on the toast and we need to. Two, you cannot, cannot propose a business
idea to my husband. Any bit, even if it's the most
piece of shit idea, because he'll get excited about it and he'll literally get to work. I bet
he has a business proposal. And you know what? You came to him with an actually incredible idea.
And Ben has been low key in a very serious manner, asking me for a while if we can invest in some,
in some sort of QSR, quick service restaurant. Apparently that's like how everyone's
making their money these days. And I'm like, no, even though it's like kind of a good idea.
I mean, he's like, it's really, it's, it's, you're getting quick returns. It's not a heavy
investment. I'm like, okay, Mark Cuban, I don't know what you're talking about. So you come to
him with an investment opportunity, with a QSR and like a toasty spritzy affair. Oh my God,
literally Ben is so down
and it's actually an incredible idea.
It is and it was just born of,
I didn't go to him with a business idea.
He's making his sandwiches on Reels
or we were FaceTiming, he was showing me his sandwich
and I was like, Ben, I'm so excited for the Hamptons
because I'm bringing my sourdough starter.
Like we're gonna have fresh bed,
we'll have collab sandwiches.
Like he makes the tuna, I make the bread.
Like it's gonna be so freaking good
and then that turned into us opening up a sandwich shop.
But there's so much, honestly, not to get Ben crazy.
There's so much there.
Like our sandwiches would have whatever sauce on top.
Like we would have special sauce.
Everybody has their magic sauce.
Ours would be called the whatever sauce.
Ben wants it to be called the celebrity sandwich shop,
which honestly, like I think is good.
Like celebrity subs.
Yeah.
I want it to be called something about there something about there something about they them I obviously will have a sandwich named after me like swirly sandwiches there's like
I actually don't like it as much there's no I'm just saying we haven't even sat down for an
official brainstorm and there's so much. It's ripe.
And where is our first location going to be?
Because New York is a tough city for business, brick and mortar.
Like, it's tough.
Let's do it down here.
There's so much business opportunity down here.
It is.
However, New York is our toastiest city.
You know, we want to set ourselves up for success.
Okay, I feel like we should not do New York for the reasons you said. And I think it's
hard to do business in New York. Like they don't make, they don't, they're not looking. Yeah. They
just want to take your money. So I think we should find like of our second, third cities, which one
is business friendly potential for, you know, we could. Yeah. Business plan. Which states are
investing in small businesses? Florida. Florida.
Claudia, like, you can't tell me anything about Florida right now.
Like, I'm so, I feel like I've emerged as a Floridian.
Like, I'm here.
I think you need a back tattoo.
I need a lower back tattoo, 100%.
But also, like, I don't take kindly to those sorts of stereotypes about my people now.
I agree.
And actually, after reading Demon Copperhead, like, I'm done, like, making don't take kindly to those sorts of stereotypes about my people now. I agree.
And actually, after reading Demon Copperhead, like, I'm done, like, making jokes and generalizations about certain regions, you know?
It's not cool.
Or certain groups of people.
It's like, you would never do that to one group of people.
What makes it okay to do to another?
No, Demon Copperhead, you will not hear me saying the word ever again.
The H word?
It's a slur.
Yeah.
So I'm standing up for my people now.
As you should.
Back your ass up.
But I really do think there's places down here that would like sandwich shop, check.
Business friendly environment, check.
Toastiness, check.
We need to be in like an outdoor pavilion plaza where we have like a nice cute little
outdoor seating area because I love eating outside.
You know where we could do it though?
I don't know how business friendly the state is.
I feel like it's just like New York, but the Jersey Shore.
Remember when you did your Astor Place show?
Asbury Park.
Not Astor Place, yeah.
Like that was a super swirly town.
And it was like a beachy, cute, yeah, I like that too.
The opportunities for franchising are, of course, endless.
And honestly, I would kind of love if our sandwich shop was so successful that we would
franchise and like toasters could become franchise owners because the toast is a
good idea the toast is a franchise we cannot let this episode get to Ben's offer he's gonna put us
to work no or we could also if we move quickly like we could have a pop-up sandwich shop in
the Hamptons this summer like grab a sandwich for the show fuel up but we need to get started on recipes oh the recipes are pouring out of us I just made egg salad using
has has everyone known about this using grated hard-boiled eggs to make egg salad yeah I saw a
girl on TikTok doing that okay also I have another idea for the menu like we have to have a kid's
menu but it's like my menu so it's like peanut butter and jelly but like premium grilled cheese
those like pretty
much only sandwiches I eat maybe like turkey and lettuce yeah yeah I feel like what are my favorite
kind of sandwiches I love sandwiches I love a turkey I love a turkey sandwich yeah and we will
be a kosher it's so hard because the cheese kosher kosher style so kosher meat with cheese if you want
it or not yeah yeah
yeah yeah okay that just adds to our expenses like honestly not to be like a hater having a
more expensive meat okay but i need to be able to eat our sandwiches no no if we were to be
completely kosher i'm saying like two kitchens a heckscher we're not completely kosher yeah
because like lay people want cheese on their sandwich. Yeah. And we need to be able to offer grilled cheese.
We can't be completely kosher.
No, we can't.
So something about they, them sandwiches coming to you soon.
I love that.
With whatever sauce and lame sauce.
Of course.
On the side.
For me, at least on the side, yeah.
That's how I like my sandwiches.
Are you ready for our next story?
Mm-hmm.
Another story about Ariana Grande.
Who knows what this will lead to for me?
This is about her voice.
This is about her voice.
So Ari is addressing criticism over the viral voice change on Penn Badgley's podcast.
Addressing the viral moment that's gone viral of Ari changing her voice.
She's kind of like voice checking on the podcast.
Like her mask like slipped a little bit
yeah when she first started talking in that clip I didn't notice anything weird until then she
raises it and it goes into like re baby voice very like salmon cat honestly um and people are
in a tizzy she took to the comment section on social media to explain the voice change she said
this it's a habit parentheses speaking like this for two years and also vocal
health she wrote adding that she intentionally changes her vocal placement depending on how much
singing she's doing as a technique to preserve her voice she emphasized that it's something
she's always done accompanied by a smiling crying emoji bye um I like this angle of her comment you know like I I'm the most talented vocalist on the planet right now.
Like I have to do these things for my health.
You talentless hacks would never understand something like that.
I like that.
I think that's a good angle.
But there is like a larger conversation underneath the surface of this.
And it's sort of like the change Ariana Grande has gone through in the last couple of
years now of course everyone's evolving but like your voice oh to me I don't see this as nefarious
whatsoever I feel like also a good person to think about when we talk about this is Paris Hilton who
has two voices yes yes who has her persona voice that's like light and high and then her regular
voice is actually very deep.
It's very deep, yes.
I think when you're doing a long form podcast,
it's hard to stay in one voice for a while.
But I remember when we watched Ari's documentary
a few years ago on YouTube,
a lot of people were shocked by her regular speaking voice.
It's not her-
Ari had a documentary?
Yeah, it was on YouTube. We watched it. I don't know yeah it was um it was on youtube we watched it i don't was it i don't
know what it was but it was like post manchester her going on tour um it was really good i don't
even remember we both watched and i think we saw a lot of her regular life and people were surprised
by like her voice when she's just talking which what is what she was doing on the podcast uh to
then go back into the high voice
is a little random but if she says it's just to keep her voice like on its toes yeah us
slobs wouldn't understand yeah um like when like I just think of Paris Hilton when she does it I'm
like go off queen like give us Hannah Montana best of both worlds voice edition yeah her two voices like the stark
difference is it's shocking and I think most people didn't even know that until her documentary
which I would have put I would put on the approved celebrity documentary list the Paris Hilton one
like I feel that one actually served a purpose I think it really taught a lot of people about
Paris Hilton because you thought you knew her. Like, you know nothing.
Her book, for me, was even better than that.
And then she also has a reality show.
You can't, like, talk in your show voice all the time
and especially not in your personal life.
So we're aware.
Like, some people have two voices.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you have two voices?
Do you think you talk different on the show?
And I think it's weird.
Like, I think, how do you maintain two different voices? It's weird like I think how do you maintain two different
voices it's like a lot of work I like it okay oh because I like it do you have more than one voice
well I have my camper voice yeah that's true you do that's more of a caricature than yeah that's not like yeah it's the opposite it's
that's my special voice actually am I like Ari and Paris no but when we're like facetiming
actually it's funny because sometimes we'll be on facetime and we're like it sounds like we're
doing a podcast yeah that's different that's like more of an attitude than an actual vocal shift
it's an attitude it's a bratitude well we've got that bratitude gotta
have that bratitude they can never make me hate that movie no they literally couldn't no and they
literally tried we were watching that movie Bratz the movie when we found out our father died like
probably one of the lowest moments of our life and I still I still think the movie's and then
like we came home and we finished it we finished finished it after the funeral. That movie stands the test of
time. And you know what? Not all movies can say that. And there's a lot of great characters in
that movie. But I think people forget that Chet Hanks is in that movie. Oh, yes. He's the deaf
character, correct? No, he is the science nerd who does like also Krav Maga now that's some acting
Chet Hanks the science nerd I thought you were gonna say the mom from my big fat Greek wedding
is in it which is she's the main Bratz's mom and she said don't get your bragas in a twist
she taught us Spanish that's who I like I am who I am because of her even though I don't even think
she's Spanish in real life um It's kind of a like a
star-studded film. It is and if you haven't watched it you absolutely should. I don't know where you
can like purchase it because it's like a direct-to-DVD TV movie made like in the back of
someone's house for three dollars and it's still better than you know The Revenant which had a
hundred million dollar budget you know. Bratz greater than The Revenant.
I choose Bratz every time.
Yeah.
In any world, in any, you know, universe, it's me and the Bratz.
Yeah.
Also, I just wanted to note, Pod Crushed is, God, it's named because it's, people go on and talk about their crushes, like from, it's about like middle school.
That's like what, you know, that's why it's called Pod Crush. Yeah go on and talk about their crushes like from it's about like middle school that's like what you know that's why it's called pod crush yeah they talk about
crushes so like you would go on and talk about maverick of course and joe manginello no but it's
like more like middle school crushes okay that's like the template for the show and then you know
they talk about other shit but that's why it's called pod crushed it's like a really weird
hook for your
podcast okay let me read the podcast description just so that we can um close this loop because
I feel like I described it really poorly you did no no but okay here pod crush the podcast where
Ben Badgley reads your middle school story explores the heartbreak anxiety and self-discovery of being
a teenager the hosts bring you stories and conversations about middle school,
from childhood crushes to battles with body hair to schoolyard scuffles.
The results are sometimes awkward, sometimes heartwarming, and always relatable.
Oh, sales and distribution by Lemonada.
Lemonada.
You didn't say it was a Lemonada original
I do feel like a lot of the times
People want to be so different
Because there's so many podcasts out there
You want your podcast to have a hook
And be very specific
And I agree because you do want to stand out
But I think sometimes it's so limiting
And it puts you in a box
And any time I've ever heard about an interview
From Podcrush going viral
They're not even talking about it
I know Ariana's talking about Wicked in it and I saw in the news she actually starts crying
talking about Cynthia Erivo um so that's just interesting so I didn't misrepresent it no you
didn't actually at all great okay cool are you ready for our next story what number it's number
three yeah and it's like kind of layered because first on its face,
Katy Perry teases her new single, Woman's World,
and just like a new era of KP.
She officially announced her return to music on Monday,
teasing her forthcoming single on Instagram
while wearing metallic armor pants and a white bikini top set.
She said, Woman's World, song July 11th, video July 12th,
pre-save, pre-order, get ready to pop off katieperry.com.
Excited.
Yeah.
New KP era.
Is that the end?
No, there's another piece to this story that's not getting any news.
And I can't even find a screenshot of the story.
But Cameron Westcott has something to say about this.
Because people often forget.
Cameron Westcott is embroiled in a legal battle with Katy Perry.
And if you don't know who Cameron Westcott is, she was on legal battle with Katy Perry because if you don't
know who Cameron Westcott is she was on the Real Housewives of Dallas and was arguably like one of
the best housewives on that franchise yes her father-in-law invented 1-800-Flowers invented
1-800-Flowers he's an older gentleman he lives in Montecito California and Katy Perry bought his house. However, his house was not for sale.
Apparently he is not sound of mind,
not sound of mind,
wasn't in a position to sell his house.
And so now the West Scots are in a court battle with Katy Perry over this
house.
Saying that they took advantage of his like senescence and stole this house
from underneath him.
Right.
So Cameron posted about Katy's new era being like,
how dare she do this?
Now we're supposed to be in court on in July.
And now she's going to say she's not able to show up because she has this
new music.
Like,
I think she's dropping something like on the week of her day of,
of their court hearing and their case.
Oh,
so maybe Katie's trying to bury,
like when you search Katie Perry newsry news that day it'll be all
about her new single not the the court she the case she might be losing right or she doesn't
want to have to go to court and so now she has an excuse like oh it's a big day for me
interesting i thought you were going to say the other layer of this which i have seen but maybe
i'm just like on a meaner corner of the internet, is people ripping this sample to shreds.
The sample of the song?
The song, just being like, you know,
in the age of music as we have it right now,
like the girlies in pop, Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo,
like this sort of cookie cutter pop song is really not going to cut it.
Like they said, you know, the lyrics were just really sort of almost like, what's the
word I'm looking for?
Cheesy.
The beat is giving like 10 years ago pop music.
People were ripping it to shreds.
Now you can't judge a whole song based on a little snippet.
Sounds like I would like it.
It does sound like you would like it.
But I didn't disagree with what they were saying, just in the sense that like the girls
of pop music are constantly raising the bar and I think this summer in particular
it's been really the girls are out here okay can I listen to it quickly yeah try not to get it in
the mic so we don't get demonetized oh plays it the loudest lower it it's so loud she heard what she needed to hear I heard what I needed to hear yeah it definitely
um feels like it was left on the cutting room floor of not even teenage dream but like a lesser
album of hers not even it sounds like, I don't even.
It sounds like E.T. or a song like that,
but just like the fake A.I. version.
So a lot of people like thought it was A.I. generated.
That's really funny.
Yeah, I agree with you.
It's not, it's like that big pop music
that the girlies have covered.
But I also feel like when you're a pop star,
and typically the career trajectory is like you make all this like music and your sound keeps changing when
like you're young until you find your sound and like who you are as a person because that's also
like the journey of life of personhood and then you get to an age where like you know who you are
and you what you what you love and and for her I feel like with every song she puts out like she doesn't really have any closer to
finding like what her sound is so now it sounds like she's going back to what used to work for
her but we've all moved on no not only that she's like this evolved woman she's a mother like she's
lived so much life and now we're just like back and just also trends wise, like that's not how music,
that's not how popular music sounds anymore. Yeah. And it's like, I like when the music is
reflective of like your life, where you are. That's what I was saying about like Gabby Barrett
yesterday, or even what Luke Holmes did. Like, yeah, I'm not in the most like pussy popping
place in my life, but like, here's what's real. Here's me. I am Luke. We get none of that from Katy Perry ever.
And the more time that goes on,
like the weirder it gets.
Well,
no,
I had thought that because so much time has passed and there's actually a
lot of hype for her new era.
I had thought she would have like heard the feedback from Bon Appetit,
from chain to the rhythm from Harley's in Hawaii,
where it was just flop.
It was so inauthentic. I thought she would
have like understood that and put her whole actual soul. She's not one of these celebrities who we
don't know. And actually it was just reading slash TikToking. This thesis somebody had about
Dua Lipa. How Dua Lipa has kind of transcended this era. No, not era, this career trope where she gives none of herself to the public. We know
nothing about her personality, her personal life. She just releases bangers. And the fact that she
is able to be as successful as she is with her music without really making any personal impact
on the music. It's not like her music is about her life. What is it even about? I don't know,
Houdini. It's actually, it's a skill to give
nothing of yourself to the public, but also remaining successful. Whereas the women in
music that we know who have the most success pour out their hearts of their most embarrassing,
their most heartbreaking, Taylor, Olivia Rodrigo, their songwriting is so powerful.
Dua Lipa's been able to do that while being able to have that success without contributing in a personal sense.
And it's interesting.
No personal references.
Katy Perry is not that.
We know about her documentary, of course.
Don't hear me.
No, but she's on American Idol.
We know her personality.
She's like a version of America's sweetheart.
And how she gives nothing of herself to her music is confusing to me she's never afraid to be
vulnerable on social media on American Idol why is her music so different yeah we're making a lot
of big statements based off of a sample no I but in I could say it about like her last music like
there's no depth to it and I just feel like when you reach a certain age like you are inherently
deeper just because you have more experience and wisdom. And for the younger pop stars, like, yeah, we don't need depth because like, you're just having fun. Like, yeah, you're,
you're 23. Go off. Like, please, please, please. But even the 23 year olds, like the successful
ones are getting deep. Olivia Rodrigo for sure. Olivia Rodrigo for sure. No, but like espresso,
like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. That's just like. If Katy Perry released espresso,
like it wouldn't be the same. And maybe that's ageist.
Okay, I'll take it.
No, but it's not ageist.
It's, you know, we're closer in age to Katy Perry than we are to Sabrina Carpenter.
And it's like a craving for that sort of depth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, maybe we're completely wrong and we'll hear the song and it'll be.
But I don't know why you would release a clip of the worst part of the song you know yeah interesting okay well lots of hype for KP7 but I don't know if it's gonna deliver
um as always open you know yes of course I shall remain I'm giving you my initial thoughts and just
my temperature check but I will be open because I like music. And Katy Perry's music is some of my favorite music of all time.
So, of course, I want more of that.
I would like to be wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, I mean, justice for Cameron and Mr. Westcott Sr.
Right.
Another just sort of layer to this ever-evolving story.
However, I will say, in that situation, I really don't know that much.
And the justice system will have to play out and let the wheels of justice turn.
Like, I'm not going to weigh in on that matter.
Yeah, because part of me, part of me,
is like with Katy Perry.
She bought a house.
A sale is a sale.
I don't fucking know this guy.
Yeah, whatever internal drama is going on with this family,
not my problem.
It's like literally not my fucking problem.
I like your house. It's beyond and you have my well my well wishes roughly
watched like we're already moved in my kid likes it here we're not going what's done is done yeah
yeah i see both sides as do i are you ready for our fourth story
yeah tv host surrey hall shuts down travis kelsey dating rumors and gushes over his Taylor Swift
romance oh they never dated so yeah she is saying more or less that they never dated but she's not
saying like completely I'll tell you what she said so she chatted with page six's virtual reality
on Tuesday at 2024 Cannes Lions Festival and she shut down speculation that she had a fling
with Travis before he had ever been involved
with Taylor Swift.
And I think that, I don't know if we spoke about it
on the show, but that is something that we had heard too.
It was just sort of like confirmed for me
that one of his exes was Zuri Hall.
Like he used to date her.
Like at one point we're like, who is he dating?
Oh, I heard he's dating Zuri Hall.
That was it.
Yeah.
So she said, quote, he is an Ohio guy.
Shout out to Trav, definitely the homie.
She said that she's enjoying watching his romance play out with Taylor in public.
She said, I love him and Taylor together.
It's been really kind of fun watching that blossom and bloom in public.
And yeah, Ohio all day.
She had sat with his family in a suite at a Chiefs game in October 2022,
sparking questions about their relationship status.
The pair was later seen together in the background of a video
shared by one of his friends.
But there was nothing going on between the two, she emphasized.
She said, I laugh that stuff off, particularly when rumors aren't true.
So yeah, I just kind of let it all slide off my back,
she said of the romance gossip.
Okay, but can we get an explanation for
why she was in the box with his family and in the video with him afterwards like I believe I don't
know why anyone would say they didn't I would lie and say I did date Travis Kelsey like
so I don't think she's lying but I just I don't think she's lying but I just don't think that's a
hard enough to say oh the rumors you didn't say they're like well let me see again what she said
no and she said Ohio like she said rumors she said okay there's so much room for vagueness here it's
a beautiful she's it's a beautiful smart cookie I laugh that stuff off particularly when rumors
aren't true so yeah like I too laugh when rumors aren't true I'm not I'm not talking about this
one I'm just saying the concept of untrue rumors is funny I laugh when rumors aren't true change the subject so when it comes to me and Travis yeah no it's very good word wordsmith wordsmithery
wordsmithery and I feel like maybe it was the beginning some smoke there like it didn't go on
to be a big relationship but she also comments on culture I'm sure she doesn't want people to think that she had something with Travis.
If she's going to like go on E! News and talk about them as a couple, that is awkward.
She wouldn't be considered a reputable, unbiased source because maybe she's still holding feelings for him, you know?
People would think that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she's got to get out in front of it for the sake of her credibility.
I think this was brilliantly played, but it is making me feel more than ever.
But maybe I wouldn't. There's nothing she could say it is making me feel more than ever but maybe
I wouldn't there's nothing she could say that would make me feel like they weren't because
she was in my mind they just weren't I didn't think much of it I was like oh yeah one of the
girls he used to date was Zuri Hall like in his when we talk about his exes like there's like
three who we know like I don't think they were ever boyfriend girlfriend I think they yeah maybe
they were set up maybe someone thought they would be a good couple maybe they went on two dates
three dates but to be with the family no I don't think she was ever his girlfriend no me neither because like it
sounds like a big deal going to his game seeing his family but like it's literally his job and
they're every single week so if you want to spend the weekend with someone like you're gonna have
to come to my game and I just want to say her previous boyfriend was a Chargers tight end
oh so she has a tight and Travis's tight end right yes so like she really has a type so that to me
is more confirmation that they were in a romantic capacity whether or not it worked out which it
obviously didn't the plot thickens yeah good to know good to know but she obviously wants us to
think they weren't so like I'll say they weren't but just know. Me too. Because we have to support another woman in entertainment journalism.
Yeah for sure. Women in media. We've got to stick together.
That's for damn sure. So
yeah. It was a classy response. Very
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Our fifth and final story, another Game of Thrones spinoff,
and it has begun filming.
It is called A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.
So the tales of Dunk and Egg are underway.
Production of HBO's Game of Thrones spinoff series,
A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms has started
in Belfast, Ireland.
Five actors are joining the cast
that they've revealed. Four of them
I don't know, but one of them
played Tony Blair in The Crown.
So, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Prime Minister.
Yeah, so just
yeah. Sarah Dena Smith will direct three
of the episodes and she directed lessons
in chemistry so that's a major slay i also just realized that i don't think i ever finished
lessons in chemistry even though it was my favorite show of last year i didn't even start
it which is crazy so amazing it's so amazing i like need to anyways here is the premise of a
night of the seven kingdoms it's adapted from ge R.R. Martin's novella, The Hedge Knight.
It will follow the exploits of Knight Sir Duncan the Tall and his young squire, Egg,
roughly 100 years before the events of Game of Thrones and 100 years after House of the Dragon.
So in between that time period.
Okay.
Their journey will take them to a competition in which they encounter several members of the Targaryen dynasty,
along with another knight known as the Laughing Storm.
It's after, like, the last dragon has already died,
but the Targaryens are still on the throne.
Is there ever going to be a show about the Mad King?
Like, I feel like that was such a,
why none of the prequels have been of that era?
Because that's like such a cornerstone
of the original Game of Thrones series.
Yeah, but which part? Like, why do we- Like, just everything. How did he get there? the prequels have been of that era. Cause that's like such a cornerstone of the original game of Thrones series. Yeah.
But which part,
like why do we like just to everything?
How did he get there?
Like the whole thing.
Yeah.
And then I guess like Robert Baratheon.
Right.
Lack of hair.
Lack of hair.
So is this a,
like going to be on cable?
Is it a HBO?
HBO.
Original.
So it's just like another house of the dragon.
It's another house of the dragon.
And it's called a Night of the Seven Kingdoms it sounds like A Court of the Thorn and Roses like
yeah yeah but it's based on another George book and the world continues will there be like two
shows on at the same time House of the Dragon or is this you know I feel like I don't know how long
House of the Dragon is gonna run I would imagine that it would be like in the off season when the two years when we don't have a show. I don't feel like there should be two shows
airing like at the same like I think House of the Dragon needs to end completely before this new one
pops off. But there's also another show I don't remember if um there was like a Charlize Theron
Game of Thrones type show. I don't know if it got canceled a couple of them have gotten canceled before even leaving the ground like when Stassi was on the toast we had a story Kit
Harrington was supposed to get a spinoff a Game of Thrones spinoff like the adventures of Jon Snow
sort of thing like current yes he was going to be in it no but I mean like Jon Snow post after I think so I don't know what it
was going to be but they it didn't happen and that's like a major L for him because I don't
think it should have been that though yes Dossie didn't either end of Game of Thrones should be
the end and they can make all the spinoffs they want about what happened in the thousands of years
before that but the way it ended like the world like kind of like it has to
be over there yeah right yeah or it has to be like super far out but like no I guess John just like
living up north of the wall John kind of gives um actually no he doesn't but you're right it's
like an L for him career-wise because there was a moment where like the name on everybody's lips was Kit Harington and what has he done in the time
because I was gonna say it reminds me a little bit of Ray J. John no it's the opposite because
he tried it's actually like worse he like really wants to make Fetch happen again like I saw he
was saying like it's it's like it's getting sad yeah because he like leans into the character yeah he's like another way and that was like definitely devastating news
that it's not gonna happen but wait there's one other show that I just wanted to get clarity on
I thought that like Charlize Theron was gonna be in Let's see. I have no memory of this.
Like something about.
Her?
No, like the white queen or something.
Spinoffs.
I think you're thinking of Snow White, where she was actually in it. Here are all the Game of Thrones spinoffs in the works.
Thank you, Entertainment Weekly.
House of the Dragon, currently on air.
A Night of the Seven Kingdoms, filming night of the seven kingdoms filming agon's conquest
in development interesting the sea snake slash nine voyages in development oh that's about
corallus they're kind of giving everyone a show 10 it's like that's special 10 000 ships in
development snow that was about john snow indefinitely shelved yikes yikes the golden empire tbd
blood moon oh it's it's naomi watts canceled that's the one very similar to charlie sarah
and i saw the i see the confusion flea bottom canceled robert's rebellion i would actually
watch robert's rebellion me too actually status is unknown I just want to say thank you Entertainment Weekly for this a conversation right up a conversation
that would have been 15 minutes of searching but that's a lot of spinoffs no and we don't have time
for 15 minutes of searching because today's Wednesday Jax I don't know if you know the
girlies are in need they're always and we're always here for you. Not to say you're always in need. Like a lot of you are, you know, are fine. Are settled. So Wednesdays we do our segment Dear Toasters where
we read three submissions from girlies who are in dire need of our help. So if you've ever been
through a problem and thought to yourself, my God, like those really well adjusted queens over at
The Toast Podcast, I would love to get their thoughts on this. You actually can. So email us
deartoasters at gmail.com or head to our website, thetoastpodcast.com.
All of your submissions will remain anonymous.
Are you ready, kids?
Aye, aye, turdy.
Hey, Swirlies.
I need some advice.
I've been with my husband for eight years,
and I hate going to my in-law's house.
Basically, when me and my husband go back to his parents' house for a night or a weekend to escape the city for the suburbs,
I hate sleeping there.
His childhood bedroom only has a curtain, not a door.
It's not a money thing as his family is very well off. It's just weird. I don't ever feel like I
have any privacy when I go to his house because of this flimsy curtain. His room is on the opposite
side of the house from his parents. It's kind of his own wing, but there's no door for privacy.
And as a married woman, I feel like we deserve privacy. My husband has brought it up a million
times that they should get a door, but his parents just won't budge and they just kind of brush it off whenever he brings it up i am not
confrontational so i'm not sure how to go about it we would probably spend more time in his parents
house since we love hanging out with them if i had a damn door is this something i have to live with
or can i make a stink about it that is so weird it's also uncomfortable because it's not like they
want you to stay there like you actually you guys want to go there because you want to get out of
the city and have a place to go.
But if they were begging you to come and you said,
listen, we're going to have to stay at a hotel,
you would have leverage.
But you're the one.
Because my advice initially was going to be like,
say we'll stop coming.
But it's not even like they're begging.
You want to go because you actually enjoy getting out of the city.
They're doing you a favor.
Could you guys bring in a door guy yourself?
Just be like, hey, we love being here.
We kind of need a door. We found this guy. And even if you have to pay for it like is that an option
yeah I do feel like um this is your husband's problem it's his parents and yes you can be like
feel strongly about it but all your communications have to go through him and you also need to just
kind of like push him to be a little bit more aggressive like what you're asking for is it's
a basic human right like it's not unreasonable you're asking for is, it's a basic human right. Like it's not unreasonable.
You're asking like seriously for a door.
And like people put up a wall all the time
in like, you know, New York City apartments.
Like when you move it like out of college,
like it's apparently,
it's not like a big deal to put up a wall.
Yeah, oddly putting up a wall.
And if you say they're well off,
like you can get a wall put up for like $1,000
if you find someone like on Craigslist.
With a door.
With a door and maybe even like a little window
if you wanted.
Like there, it's like not a big deal.
You would think wall, construction.
No, doors are like actually not a big deal.
So I would offer for you guys to just take it on as long as they're okay with you doing
a little construction in their house.
But again, like you're not unreasonable.
But also when you have.
And you should really urge your husband.
Like it's his job in this sort of dynamic to be the advocate.
I do think also it's a
problem that might solve itself eventually because I don't know if you have if you have kids and I
guess it hasn't been an issue but like when you have kids like you need a door they could just
push the curtain open and start running through the house fall down the stairs yeah or will you
know go wake up the grandparents too early yeah maybe you should like go over and be really loud
at like five in the morning um so that they say maybe they can come
to the conclusion on their own like damn I wish I woke up a little bit later perhaps if my son-in-law
and daughter had a had a door yes usually I like a passive-aggressive approach but I do think here
like there's no reason not to be direct as long as you're willing to take it on like if you want
to go out and get the things that you need like in general you know when you have a problem like as
long as you're the one solving it okay great yeah that's so you're not making it someone else's
problem if you're waiting this is just like I feel like a life thing too like if there's something in
your life that needs to be done and you're not going to be proactive about it like you can't
sit around and complain that it's not getting done yeah I think you're good you could do it yeah
also it's just kind of giving Lindsay Lohan's mom
a confession of a shopaholic.
Like, she had this weird thing against microwaves.
You know, they have a weird thing against stores.
Although I understand the microwave thing.
No, I don't think they have a thing against stores.
I think this is just the setup, you know?
Yeah, I guess, like, these people come to town
once every couple of months.
They could live without a door.
Yeah, and sometimes, like, when you're,
and he grew up and it was a curtain for whatever reason,
but I think sometimes you just like don't realize,
oh, that's actually like kind of weird.
Yeah.
Okay, girly swirlies.
I'm in need of your immediate advice.
Last time I hired a full-time nanny,
I mean, sorry, last week I hired a full-time nanny
for my baby.
The nanny is so sweet.
My baby girl adores her.
However, the nanny is a natural girly
and she does not wear deodorant. I love that journey for her, but on her second day she handed me my baby girl adores her however the nanny is a natural girly and she does not wear deodorant I love that journey for her but on her second day she handed me my baby back and the baby
reeked of BO I cannot live with my home and my new child smelling this way but I do not want to hurt
her feelings how do you handle this this is an episode of curb when the nanny wouldn't wear a
bra that's so funny no you have to um say like it's important like that you wear deodorant and if it goes against her beliefs which it might if she's a natural girly like that I'm sorry you have to um say like it's important like that you wear deodorant and if it goes against
her beliefs which it might if she's a natural girly like that I'm sorry you have to part ways
your baby can't be really I feel like finding a nanny so hard it is but you can't have your baby
smelling like another person's bo like that's just gross it's gross for everyone involved and you know sometimes like I don't know how serious she
takes like being natural I would say like a natural deodorant sometimes it doesn't doesn't
work um you could start with that you could try a natural deodorant but I'm sorry like if this
person is such strong BO that it's onto your baby, like they need clinical deodorant.
Well, let me ask you another question.
And this is just me being devil's advocate, trying to put a positive spin on a sticky situation.
Perhaps we, you know, we embrace the natural body odor because, you know, she's obviously, she radiates, the woman.
And if she was wearing deodorant, perhaps she would be radiating some of those toxic chemicals, you know, she's obviously, she radiates, the woman. And if she was wearing deodorant, perhaps she would be radiating
some of those toxic chemicals, you know, the aluminum.
Yeah.
Is that an angle we can take?
No, that's a good angle, but it doesn't sound like this mama
is like so a non-toxic mama because then she would be like,
she's natural too and she smells and everyone smells.
Yeah, but if the mom smells and the baby smells like the mom's BL,
like that's beautiful.
Yeah.
You actually don't smell it because you don't really smell yourself so that's beautiful
but I'm sorry like a little baby smelling like someone else's BO to me deal breaker. And I feel
like that kind of ruins the whole like point of having a baby because to me like the best thing
about having a baby is the way that they smell. Yeah but I think that you could just be up front
like we would we not even prefer,
like we ask that you wear deodorant.
See what she says.
If it's a deal breaker for her too,
I just don't think
this is going to work.
Yeah.
And is it more respectful
or less to like
purchase the deodorants?
Like a couple of options.
I would purchase it
to make sure that she got
a strong one.
Right.
Well, if you need it,
I think what,
here, let's give some actual tactical tips.
I think the best working deodorant for really strong BO is the brand Dry Idea.
Okay, great.
I change deodorants kind of often.
I feel like you got to, you know.
Yep.
They get your.
You got to keep your glands on their toes.
Yeah, so sometimes.
Right now, I'm in my dub clinical deodorant, which, by the way, I'm sure these things have so many chemicals do not even tell me like that's something that
I can't compromise you can't live without sometimes use my husband's oh me too yeah I think actually
he's like certain dry or something like that my husband has been using my female women's deodorant
dove for probably two years Ben hasn't bought and I buy him because I know he likes Brut.
I buy it for him.
He's like, no, I don't really like it anymore.
And he exclusively, we share a deodorant.
Isn't that crazy?
Sometimes my husband and I share a deodorant that's his.
No, no.
And so Ben always carries deodorant.
That is hysterical.
Ben always carries deodorant in his work bag.
And like I was cleaning out his work bag for him.
And like the one he bought was my brand, Dove Women's.
I'm cracking up.
I'm actually, now that I'm smelling and aware of my deodorant, I Dove Women's. I'm cracking up I'm actually
now that I'm smelling and aware of my deodorant I'm wearing Zach's deodorant today because I ran
out of mine. I love deodorant like I will never give it up. And like my husband buys like most
things but deodorant too in bulk like he has six deodorants in his drawer. I go to the store I buy
one at a time so mine just finished I don't know when I'm getting to the store again also I'll be using his for the next month if you do want to give her an alternative um like a
natural alternative the Kopari one is very good I actually used it it takes a little while to
acclimate to your body so it won't work like the first week I'd say but I used it for a while and
it did good work for me yeah yeah there are a lot of good natural ones. There are.
But there is a period of acclimation.
And it's never going to be what those chemicals can do.
No, those chemicals are amazing.
The chemicals were invented for a reason.
I do think, you know, a lot of brands and companies abuse the privilege. But when it comes to deodorant, like, I don't give a rip.
Add more.
Do it again.
All right, ready for our third and final Dear Toasters?
Yeah.
Hey, Terri and Jax.
I'm an East Coast girly, and I'm writing in with a work predicament.
I just started a new job a few months ago, and I am loving it.
Yesterday, my boss sat me down to check in with me.
He told me he is very happy with my work, said he loved my drive,
but noted one issue, and it's that I constantly interrupt people.
He said he doesn't think it's something I'm consciously doing, but it comes across as very rude. I took the note in stride, though I write this?
Literally.
Like, are you my boss who sat me down?
Literally.
I do want to say, just really quickly, because I can't give you any tactical tips, obviously,
but maybe Jackie can.
Why?
I don't have the problem.
As someone with the problem.
You can give the tips to how to stop doing it.
I don't know.
But I never do it.
It's not innate in me.
I do want to say though,
from like, you know, an HR perspective,
I do feel like this was kind of an inappropriate comment.
I don't think so.
Because like, it's a comment on your personality.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, if somebody was over here being like a one-upper,
which is like a really bad personality trait,
your boss wouldn't bring that up.
I just, they're not the same thing.
And also it's like, you're disrespecting your coworkers.
You don't let them speak.
I think it's something that needs to be said.
And if he didn't say it,
then he would maybe just like fire her
to protect her feelings.
But like, you can't work with someone like this.
So he's actually doing a favor by giving her some warning
and giving her a chance to change.
Because especially if you meet with like clients and stuff
you can't just have like some obnoxious like chatterbox talking over everyone it's I will say
it's not a podcast him saying this to you and embarrassing you like will help you naturally
stop it'll just be in your brain um so that is I think one actual like tactical way that you will stop doing this.
You just, I don't know.
You're going to have to really like exercise like mental control.
Like when you're in a meeting, before you even speak,
whether it's when no one's speaking or when someone's speaking,
like you'll have to just like stop yourself.
I think eventually with practice, like you can become more natural at it.
But like I would for a while not speak really
at all just so that you can like see like plan to not speak so you can feel like when you were
about to interject and like see that someone else was speaking I googled how to stop interrupting
people okay they actually have some good tips pause a few seconds before you speak like always
take a break which is obvious I like this one
write down your thoughts if you I feel like a lot of times you speak out at least for me like I'm
worried I'm gonna forget I like that so bad always have like a pen a pen and paper with you it says
if you're worried that you'll forget what you need to say write it down take notes during a meeting
about points other people say and your thoughts on the matter I love that because the other one
of like the one that's like don't do it it's like it's not that easy. It's a reflex you can't even help yourself because you if you
were aware that you were doing it you wouldn't do it so I think that that like thanks I think
that that is a very good advice like just write everything down. This is a good one too because
I think a lot of the times my interruptions are questions. So if you find that a lot of your interruptions are questions, not on the podcast, I mean like in regular life,
like when someone's having a conversation, I'm like, oh, by the way, did you ever get that thing?
And if they are questions, writing it down is helpful, too.
Like just kind of get to know yourself a little bit in this phase of discovery.
It says ask for help.
I don't think that's necessary.
I don't think so either.
Apologize if you do interrupt. That's a good one too. That's just also like a social decorum type of thing. Yeah. Oh here. Reddit. I want to learn how to stop interrupting people.
Yeah it's great that you have the insight to change this behavior. This guy did you a favor, by the way.
Try to listen and really understand what the person is saying.
That's good because I feel like when other people talk, for me,
it's just like an allotted amount of time that I have to wait until I can start talking again.
Yes, yes.
But if you're genuinely listening, you might have less of an inclination.
You're going to want them to finish the thought.
That's the general
consensus on this record on this Reddit thread. Focus on your ears like the understanding part
versus the waiting for my part to talk. Yeah that's why I'm saying maybe just do one meeting
where you plan to say nothing at all so you can practice your listening. A lot of people
recommend meditation.
That's just getting you like probably more comfortable in the habit of silence and of listening to your body or listening to something else.
And patience and not speaking.
I actually think, because you know what?
I interrupt people a lot and I'm incapable of meditation.
So I think the two are inextricably linked.
I like this.
Tangible things.
Good luck with that.
That's actually my worst nightmare and that's why I never got a job. That's why I do this. Yeahible things. Good luck with that. That's actually my worst nightmare and that's
why I never got a job. That's why I do this.
Yeah. Are you going to start meditating?
No.
No. I don't. Do you have a problem with my interrupting? No.
Not when we're recording. I feel
like I only notice it when I listen back
sometimes. But I'm like sitting here and no
problemo. Great.
I'm glad we settled that. Things are working
nicely.
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