The Toast - Taylor, Matty and Tom Wambsgans with Brooke Eby: Tuesday, May 30th, 2023

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

Taylor Swift’s Best Moments at MetLife Stadium on Night 2 of Her Blockbuster Eras Tour (Billboard) (18:34) Matty Healy Blows Off ‘Deluded’ Podcast Controversy as Taylor Swift Fans Deno...unce Him (Page Six) (28:12) ‘Proud’ Mom Beyonce Praises Daughter’s Paris Performance (Page Six) (35:51) Tom Sandoval Seen Talking on Phone with Raquel Leviss After Breakup News (Page Six) (43:02) Hailee Seinfeld Has Been Dating Josh Allen a ‘Few Weeks,’ Says Source (People) (49:30) Succession Recap (54:40) Interview with Brooke Eby (1:05:44) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  Merch The Toast Patreon Girl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to The Toast. Happy Tuesday. That feels like a Monday, so it feels a little dreadful, but it's really not. When you stop to think about it, it's not so dreadful. When you stop to think about it, we're like 30% through the work week. Through the work week. Through the work week. I think we're 20%. Well, I guess 10% from today already. Right.
Starting point is 00:00:21 30%. Wow, look at that, Turdy. I crunched the numbers, and they're not looking half bad. They're not so bad. It's been a Wow. Look at that 30. I crunched the numbers and they're not looking half bad. They're not so bad. It's been a minute since we've been here. I hope everyone had an amazing weekend. We did fun friends, family eras. And that's really all you can ask for from a weekend. Fun friend, family era. It's so true. We were all in the city this weekend because of eras. Yeah. Tailored. Tailored like did kind of ruin any potential Memorial Day weekend plans. And I'm not gonna lie, in the beginning, I was feeling a little bitter.
Starting point is 00:00:49 You know, I can't take a trip. But I actually ended up loving being home for the long weekend. The city was kind of empty and it just felt, I kept thinking, it was still pretty, it wasn't totally empty. Some weekends, holiday weekends, it's abandoned. But it was pretty fine and I was
Starting point is 00:01:06 thinking like I wish the city was always like this you know just like a normal amount of people on the street not you wish for happiness like this forever literally that's how I felt Friday night at era's like I really wished for happiness like this forever well I want to hear greatest showman yeah yeah yeah I want to hear all about eras eras well I was always planning on going Saturday night like I had tickets with a well I didn't have tickets a brand offered me Margo and Ben seats in their suite so like I always knew I was going and I was gonna try and get tickets the other nights but like I was pretty content I have been already in Nashville I was pretty content just going Saturday and the Friday day you and I were just like hanging out with Rold and the fam. And I was checking on tickets.
Starting point is 00:01:46 You and Smitch were on ticket patrol. We were just checking. And then we left your house at like 4 o'clock, maybe 3.30. And you guys, like you and mom were like really encouraging that we go. And I was like, all right. I mean, like if you guys are saying it, like maybe we should. I think sometimes, you know, we get a little fanatical, me and Margo, with our obsessions. And like you guys always reel us back in.
Starting point is 00:02:04 But you were encouraging it. So I was like, oh oh if Jax is saying and mom is saying like I should definitely go so I'm walking home from your apart from your apartment refreshing StubHub and at like 4 30 I'm like Margo like just get dressed like we're gonna go we are gonna go and as I'm doing my makeup these tickets pop up on StubHub we had been watching them drop slowly and at first like many months ago we wanted to sit on the floor but a lot of the footage that I've seen from the show is like, if you're on the floor and you're not in the first three rows, like you really can't see anything. And even if you're in the first three rows, the stage is so big. She spends like 10% of the time in front of you and then the other 90% away. So I'm like, I think maybe the hack here
Starting point is 00:02:40 is lower bowl. And we really wanted first row lower bowl tickets but my god the guy on StubHub like would not drop the tickets he had so many tickets in the first row for like six grand I'm like oh this guy's nuts so we bought a few rows back they were definitely like double face value but we thought we got a good deal because he had eventually dropped them we bought the tickets at 4 30 as we were getting dressed so we ran we got dressed we literally didn't look like special or amazing we just like looked normal but whatever um and we got to the stadium at like 6 30 we took an uber like it wasn't really crazy planned and we got there the whole first row was empty the guy never sold the tickets we were so mad and we asked could you take those seats we asked the security guard like could we sit there and he was like no okay and why'd you ask It was actually a conversation between me and Margo.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Like, do we ask or not ask? And I think it's, you know, Margo wanted to ask. I wanted to not ask. Margo ended up asking. And he said no. And I was like, damn, we shouldn't have asked. And then five minutes later, he was like, go. I think he saw us having, like, the best time.
Starting point is 00:03:40 We literally had the whole first row to ourselves. It was so stupid that no one... I didn't know that. I didn't know. It was so stupid that no one was sitting there yeah but I wasn't for asking exactly yeah and then I didn't know that he eventually let you sit there yeah and this was literally in like the second era so we were literally there the whole show and then I was like you know what I'm glad we asked because he thought you know respected us as being rule
Starting point is 00:04:01 followers respecting his authority and then he ended up giving our seats to this little girl so she got an upgrade we got an upgrade it was all good and fun um he really should have given like the front row seats to the little girl because she was so short but whatever I'm not complaining we the whole first row we were like running and dancing and oh my god did we have the time of our lives like it was the best heiress tour I've been to one because it was clearly like a special night we got got a lot of surprises. Of course, we got Iced Spice. We got amazing special songs. We got Getaway Car and Maroon. She also then, you know, brought out all of her dancers. They all sat down on the stage, and she's like, I'm going to premiere my new music video for you. It's out at midnight, but we're all going to watch it together. So it was like a special night, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:38 And it was, it was really just amazing. Like being there with Counts, like just, it was, I really can't put into words. It was the best concert I've ever been to, the best Eros tour I've ever been to. And then it took a lot of pressure off the next night because we were in a suite and like technically it was like a work event so we couldn't like be animals. So we were still, you know, vibing,
Starting point is 00:04:57 but we weren't being like, we got it all out of our systems on Friday night. So I feel like I hacked it perfectly. We were even thinking of going Sunday, but at that point I was like, you know what? Let someone else go. We've seen enough,
Starting point is 00:05:10 and I was beat. I was not okay. Three hours. It was basically a three-hour workout, jumping, dancing. I didn't sit. I sat in between eras while she was doing her outfit changes, and there was music playing.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I needed the break, but I was up and at them, George McFadden, for the rest. Yeah. It was incredible, and then on the second night, we were able to get merch,adden for the rest yeah it was incredible and then on the second night we were able to get merch and I got the CD with the new song even though like even though you trashed it on the show last week yeah yeah that I'm I have it as like a novelty I'm never gonna listen to the song I don't have a CD player or a car or like a computer with a CD
Starting point is 00:05:38 ROM so but like maybe one day you could sell it to a fellow Swifty yeah Yeah. Turn a profit. That's definitely what I'm thinking, you know. Yeah. Keeping it in good condition. I was cracking up when you and Margaret were like posting the CD after everything you said last week on the show about the idea of the CD. No, one thing about me, like I'm, like I'm going to make fun of something and like still do it, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Because that's just me. And you got merch. I got merch. I got, we got you merch. Yeah, I got a t-shirt. I got a quarter zip, which feels appropriate if you've seen my comedy show so true and it was just a fabulous weekend and then also like I was able to like sing my heart out Friday and Saturday night and then literally all day Friday and Sunday I was with you enrolled like yeah what more could you ask for in a balanced weekend it was such a balanced
Starting point is 00:06:18 weekend we had so much fun I mean I didn't have the heiress portion but it was really fun to be in the city it was gorgeous weather this weekend. It was. Like, you couldn't ask for better. And we just got to spend a lot of time outside. Harry was having a blast. We went out to brunch by the water. We went to the park.
Starting point is 00:06:34 We went to the park. We were park girly swirlies. We were park girly swirlies. It was really fabulous, like, enriching, balanced, revitalizing weekend. Like, wholesome weekend. Wholesome weekend, yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't have done it any other way, Jax.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah. Well, I'm glad that it all worked out for you. And now that's it. That's a wrap on the Eros Tour Turdies version. We'll see. Where else would you go? I don't know. Pittsburgh? No. It's close. You would really go? Yeah, I would go. But you didn't go to
Starting point is 00:07:02 Night 3? I didn't. Next door. Yeah, no, I didn't. uh next door yeah no I didn't are you really considering it yeah like I support whatever you do if I have a free weekend and there's like a good destination why not okay you know and so let's talk about all in all the secret songs that you've prepared for yourself yes because in Nashville it was out of the woods and 15 which was amazing. Like, they weren't even on my list, and I couldn't have asked for two better songs. And I really thought, like, I got special treatment, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:31 Then night one, you had Getaway Car and Maroon. And she brought Jack Antonoff out. Like, Friday night was like a special night. She treated it differently. I'm so glad I went. And then the Saturday night was... Holy Ground. Holy Ground.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And then False God, which Holy Ground and then False God which was okay. Like those the first of the three Out of the Woods. 15 and Holy Ground? No Out of the Woods, Getaway Car, and Holy Ground like would have been on my top yeah even maybe five. Let me tell you something though like I'm gonna have a bone to pick with Miss Taylor. She obviously kept choosing songs that had the word New York in it. Holy Ground is like all about the city. False God, staring out the window
Starting point is 00:08:10 like I'm not your favorite town. Maroon, it says New York. It's like all about New York. When I tell you at the concert, she's like, hey, Jersey. She kept, she never called us New York. And then she sang Welcome to New York on the third night.
Starting point is 00:08:21 She kept calling us Jersey. And like me and Margaret were like in each other. It was like, stop. It's a problem. I know. It's a problem that the New York on the third night. She kept calling us Jersey. And like me and Margaret were like in each other. It was like stop. It's a problem. I know. It's a problem that the New York stadium is in New Jersey. But the New York Giants play there. The New York Jets play there.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And like when a big artist comes to town, they play there. And then like their Instagram caption is like East Rutherford, you were amazing. And it's like who? Question mark. Who's East Rutherford? I don't know her. So I was, well I appreciated the thought she put into the secret songs. Like stop calling us New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:08:46 But she's in New Jersey. But it's a stadium for New Yorkers, too. I know. But if she got up there and said, like, hey, New York people, she would be, like, trolled for not knowing where she is. And it's factually inaccurate. Like, there's no winning. I just wish she said, hey, guys. I'm sure it's frustrating for her, too.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Why is there not, like, a stadium? What's the stadium? There's so many arenas in New York, but is there not a stadium? No. I guess that's why the New York Giants and the New York Jets play. Maybe like where the Buffalo Bills play. Right. I guess she would say New York.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And that would feel wrong too. Then she could finally say New York. Hmm. It was weird. But so there was thought put into the secret songs. There always is. Yeah. But sometimes it's just like a song that feels good but she referenced in maybe like four out of six of the
Starting point is 00:09:29 secret songs this weekend New York then the third night was the much dreaded welcome to New York everyone was like I'm not going the first night because she's obviously going to play welcome to New York and I don't want to hear that I just have to say like well I wouldn't have chosen it welcome to New York is a banger like no it's not I feel like people who actually are not Taylor Swift fans like it more than Taylor Swift fans yeah because it's like I don't want to from that movie yeah the uh Dakota Johnson how to be single yeah and it was like part of the New York tourism commercial so it's just like was it yeah it's for the not fans oh okay um but I I feel like if and it's not even close to a song that I even like love.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I could tolerate it. I feel like if you're in New York and she's here and she sings it and it's like a one-time only thing like it probably is a nice moment. But we're in New Jersey. Makes you think. Yeah. Welcome to New Jersey. I missed it. I'm okay with it. She also then did Sing Clean, which is the first time she's repeated a song now. And of all the songs to repeat, that's a really good one.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I definitely, I was having FOMO from that. Oh, were you? Yeah. You were having FOMO from one song? Yeah. Not enough to get tickets and go, but it was a tough loss for the community. I just think you're not seeing
Starting point is 00:10:44 what's directly in front of you. Which is amazing songs I got unreal songs no I have literally and you had maroon because she knew that the songwriter that inspired the song was in the crowd yeah because a lot of people do say that my recent banger 100% sounds a lot like maroon and let's keep in mind 100% came out a full year before maroon and that's the thing about Taylor she's inspired by others she said it herself so I'm honored to be a part of the creative process yeah they do sound similar and we're not being crazy other people have said it too wait we have spoken for so long without talking about why today's episode is so special because our interview yeah oh I thought you forgot no no I just I there's so many things that make any
Starting point is 00:11:25 given episode special so true I just like an heiress tour yeah I thought I didn't know if it was this or that or like maybe something I did I forgot like no no so if you're listening as a podcast or watching as a video it's at the end of today's episode we have a 30 minute interview with Brooke Eby who is kind of the trifecta if if you will. She's a toaster. She's an advocate. And she's a TikToker. So last week I got tagged in this video like a thousand times. I'm like, oh my God, I'm blowing up.
Starting point is 00:11:52 What's going on? And not to make everything about me. And everyone was tagging me in this video of this beautiful young girl named Brooke Eby, who makes videos about her terminal ALS diagnosis. And somebody had asked her if she had any sort of bucket list. Like a wish list. Yeah, like things she wanted to do. And she had a bunch of different things. Taylor Swift was on there.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And The Toast was on there. Going on The Toast was one of them. Going on an episode of The Toast was like one of her major life goals. So we did it. We made it happen. We were like, what if we just called Brooke up? And that's exactly what we did. I slid into her DMs on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:12:19 We organized it. She came on The Toast last week, right after we wrapped for the week. And it's at the end of today's episode. She's so funny. She talks a lot about her ALS journey and just like, you know, questions people like have for her that you might be wondering, like, how does somebody, you know, go to work, you know, things like that. And then she fulfills her toast fantasies by giving us like a fast five hot take conversation
Starting point is 00:12:37 about Kardashians, about Scandival, about succession. She was really funny and she was really cute and pretty. And it was just a really fun episode. So it was so toasty fun episode. So it was. And she was so toasty. It was like, it was so fun to talk to someone who like knows what we're about to say. Knows the lingo. Knows the lingo.
Starting point is 00:12:51 She was like getting to the lingo before we were. Yeah. It was great. So that's at the end of today's episode. And it's really, I think, one of my favorite interviews ever. Yeah. Also, after the past five shall be succession recap. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Because Claudia and I both watched the finale. And boy, am I glad I did it was amazing yeah yeah there's a lot it was so vindicating fulfilling for those of us who fucking hate those kids yeah and I couldn't have dreamed up a better ending for the show that hurt more people it was beautiful yeah it was but it was interesting you know what I'll get into it because I do also have some mixed thoughts. Yeah. But remember
Starting point is 00:13:27 when the season premiered and we said, who do you think will succeed? Like, who will take over? Who did we say? I forget who you said,
Starting point is 00:13:35 but it was also not like, who do you think, but who do you want? Yeah. And I said, Maxon, I think. And you're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And I wasn't wrong. Yeah. Must be nice. I wonder who you said. Probably something so so dumb like Marsha or something like one thing about me like I do not understand succession like the business stuff like I always have to go on Twitter afterwards and like see if I missed anything because so much of it goes over my head so then you go on Twitter and you see people who are seriously mentally ill yeah crying. Crying over what they've seen. They're like, Kendall just deserves more.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Like, it was so. Kendall deserves more. He's literally a murderer. Kendall deserves nothing. He's literally a murderer. Yep. Literally one of the worst human beings on the face of the planet. Terrible businessman.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Terrible father. Terrible husband. That's the thing. At its core. Terrible son. At his core. And why Logan, like, never handed over the business. Like, he was the only one who was qualified.
Starting point is 00:14:25 But he didn't have it. He was like kind of dumb. Like always making. You knew if Kendall said to do this. The right answer was that. Yeah. He was just. He didn't have the brains for it.
Starting point is 00:14:34 So really none of them were deserving. Equipped. Or qualified. Or qualified. So the best man won in my opinion. Yeah. The man who's always been there for the company. Always been there for Logan.
Starting point is 00:14:44 No. And the man who will admit. there for the company always been there for Logan no and the man who will admit like is really just a pawn he's like Batson was like I need you like I want to put my finger up your ass and you're gonna be my puppet yeah he's more he's not scrupled he'll say this say that just he's perfect for that world yeah so the right man won in my opinion agreed okay we'll talk about it at the end, even though we just talked about it. So let's dive in. Let's dive in. Any other eras, turdies, version thoughts? We're going to talk more eras in the Fast Five.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Right, there's a bunch of stories. Well, the first story. So if I forgot anything, I'll get to it. Great. So now, without further ado, here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And today's episode is brought to you by the Kardashians on Hulu. You can watch the all-new season of the Kardashians. New episodes are dropping Thursdays only on Hulu. So the world's most famous matriarchy is back for the most intimate look yet inside the family empire. We know that there's a lot
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Starting point is 00:16:10 era these days. I've been really like, I know after the first episode from last week, I really, I was feeling Kendall. Wow. I'm always in my Kylie era, especially as she was learning to drive stick. I'm always in my Khloe era. Always. Always. But I really related to Kylie learning how to drive. Yeah. So you don't miss the season three of the Kardashians. New episodes are dropping Thursdays only on Hulu. You can catch up now on all the seasons and the first episode, which premiered last week. The Kardashians season three new episodes are dropping Thursdays only on Hulu. You don't want to miss it. Today's episode is also brought to you by Carraway. Get a head start on spring cleaning with Carraway. Their thoughtfully designed sets and complimentary
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Starting point is 00:17:22 don't want to make eggs they're gonna stick to the to the pan. So true. I need my caraway cookware. So I have the set. I have the frying pan already and the rest of the things. I think they're being delivered today. I'm so excited. Like it makes me cook more to use caraway because it's such a pleasant experience. And the cleanup is so easy. Their pot should be called the chili pot.
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Starting point is 00:18:31 Not on my watch. No. Okay, our first story. Taylor Swift took the Heiress Tour to MetLife Stadium. There was Ice Spice. There was Jack Antonoff. There was Aaron Rodgers. Miles Teller. Kelly Tell Teller Paul Rudd Sean and Camilla Mendez there was so many when I was there I saw Mariska Hargitay whoa I got a
Starting point is 00:18:54 great picture of her I didn't see him just Mariska Mariska Hargitay Molly Ringwald I thought they were just being you know were they all in the tent yes well something interesting that happened was in our section was Kate Upton. We were like, why isn't Kate Upton in the tent? And then Mariska was like staring at our section. Our section was right behind the celebrity tent. So we saw everything. And she's talking to security guard.
Starting point is 00:19:13 She's on the phone and she's looking up. And then Kate Upton disappears and never comes back. So I want to believe that Mariska was coordinating Kate's arrival to the tent. Because Mariska is like an OG Taylor fan. I feel like she has pull in the tent. Yeah. But what's the relationship between Kate and Mariska? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I just feel like celebrities know each other. And you know, now Kate Upton is like a New York elite because her husband plays for the Mets and Mariska is literally the New York elite. Yeah, I think that's how it went down. How was Kate Upton? Gorgeous. I love her. I know. Was she with her daughter?
Starting point is 00:19:42 No. No? No. She went to Eros without her daughter? Eros. Did she went just by herself? I don't remember. I wasn't looking at the people around her.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I was literally just looking at her. Fair. So Molly Ringwald, the night that we went, Hoda, Molly Ringwald, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Mariska, Kate Upton. There were a lot of people. So the night that you went. Yeah. Nikki Hilton was there with her daughters,
Starting point is 00:20:08 but they weren't in the tent. They weren't in the tent. I think they were in a suite. Yeah. They were just living life. Yeah. The next night, Paul Rudd, Aaron Rodgers, Miles Taylor, that whole crew, Camilla and Sean.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Oh, Maren Morris went. A lot of other people. It was like really star-studded i feel like they had to make the tent bigger yeah like usually it's like two or three but there were like tons of a-listers i mean i don't know how big they're gonna have to make the tent in la well there's five shows there's five shows and the uh the tent was interesting because her family has their own tent they're not in the celebrity tent I don't know if that's always been that way but now there's two tents wow like family and then friends and celebrities and um Julia Gardner was there yeah night yes yes yes and Adele V was there
Starting point is 00:20:54 so see so good to see her out doing well yeah um it was popping like honestly the hottest ticket in town yeah it really was and it's just crazy all those people like forsook Memorial Day plans right to be with tailored right unless they like you know just flew in from the hamptons i actually did see um which was cool when we were pulling up there's like a helicopter landing and there was one landing like on the pad so we were like trying to see who it was but they literally just were ushered literally from the helicopter to an suv into a tunnel like into the stadium so i was thinking maybe it was taylor like it was elite treatment that's crazy yeah so ice space performed the three nights karma because also all the songs dropped so right it's different the new vault track you're losing me
Starting point is 00:21:36 and then the ice spice karma and the lana del rey yeah which has more lana yeah it's hard for me when i'm listening to like realize that there's a difference. You know what I mean? I like the old version. I'm fine with it. What's with the new tracks? Like what's the hidden meanings? What are we learning?
Starting point is 00:21:53 I haven't listened to You're Losing Me yet. I just honestly didn't find the time this weekend. And I've been so, I listened on repeat literally this morning. It hits different is probably one of my favorite Taylor songs ever. Like it is so good. Oh, wow. I did a story this morning, like asking people, what do you want in the fast five and like a couple
Starting point is 00:22:08 people wrote like you're losing me and I was like that's fucking rude like what did I do like no no you guys hurt Jax this morning no but then I realized the song the song because someone said you're losing me Taylor's and so I was like oh okay so that's all there is that's funny that's all there is to say about that's all there is to say about that yeah oh yeah no there are people are um like dissecting the bridge and who would want to I wouldn't want to marry me either a pathological people pleaser now everyone's looking at Midnight's like as a breakup album when at first it didn't occur to anyone because she was with Joe because she was with Joe but it's most likely that she was writing these songs during
Starting point is 00:22:42 you know the end of their relationship and and when things started to go awry and now you're looking at it with a new lens I don't know I don't think maybe it's like one or two of them but I don't think you can like say that about the whole album because one didn't she say early on like these are the songs about things throughout my life you up at midnight yeah these are different nights throughout my life of things that like keep you up so I think it's like it's a good point more history there and two like she just writes about random shit at this point like the great war is apparently about lady mary and cousin matthew no fucking way i didn't hear that how would i have heard that not you it totally is i'm obsessed yeah she's she now and she has said like ever since folklore and
Starting point is 00:23:20 evermore like we really don't need to like dissect the lyrics as much as we do because she'll write it up based off of a movie she watched or a book that she read or something her friend is going through. Like a lot of the songs on, not a lot, but like two on folklore and Evermore are about Abigail's divorce. So it's not about Taylor per se. So we don't really need to look at it through that lens anymore. You know what I was thinking about this weekend which was funny. It's like how we speculate like which song is about like Taylor losing her virginity and when. It's like but we all know when Abigail did we all know when Abigail did because back then she swore she was gonna marry him someday you know yeah
Starting point is 00:23:53 and Abigail was so brave for that like yeah I mean I'm sure she didn't think like her friend who was like playing her guitar at the time was gonna literally become the biggest star in the world and like one of her biggest songs was gonna be the song about Abigail losing her virginity. I'm sure she just thought. To a boy who changed his mind and we both cried. Right. Like I'm sure she just thought she would like put it on YouTube and that would be the end of it. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:12 No, she's going to perform at night too in Nashville. Era's tour. Right. 70,000 people. Yeah. But I think it's okay. I think it's okay. I think Abigail has healed, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Wasn't there a rumor at one point that there was a rift between them? I didn't hear that. Oh, okay. Abigail's like the one constant maybe it was about Abigail's divorce then yeah so Abigail has like a kind of like a crazy like thing going on I think like there was infidelity and now she's like with the guy I don't know what song is reportedly about Abigail's divorce tolerate it okay and happiness got it two of the worst songs in my opinion also I think it's like nice that Taylor could like write a really beautiful like song no and then if she doesn't want to like expose herself as like this is about me there's this mystery of like it could be about anything no but there's also like the
Starting point is 00:25:00 I think a part of Taylor probably worries like you know if everything settles down in her life like what will she write about and like the fact that she some of her I would say her best work Folklore and Evermore actually really not about her um is great like she doesn't have to keep living and like breaking up and making up like she can settle. She's constantly inspired. Right and it's cool to be inspired by books and TV shows. She's inspired by those writers lakes. The lakes. She was definitely inspired by Evelyn Hugo when she wrote Champagne Problems. You truly cannot convince me otherwise.
Starting point is 00:25:29 You love to see it. Yeah. And Evelyn Hugo was definitely inspired by her. Taylor Jenkins Green has said it's like, it's not not, like, you know? Well, I think that book and other books like it are like a composite character of a lot of different characters.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Yeah. Composite lot of different characters. Yeah. Composite characters of different characters. Composite characters of composited characters who are composites of other people. And they're composited together
Starting point is 00:25:53 in a way that... It's really like a competition. Composition, don't you think? A composition of one character. Right. Who's an accumulation of multiple characters? In that composite.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Exactly. Well, congrats on a great weekend, Taylor. I'm going to get Justin's stay alert this week. You are? Yeah. Where is she going next? Chicago. She's definitely going to be in New York
Starting point is 00:26:12 until she has to go to Chicago. Okay. And we didn't talk about Aaron Rodgers, who's a big Swifty. We had been knowing this because we were literally obsessed with that video Kelly Taylor posted of her, Aaron Rodgers, Shailene Woodley,
Starting point is 00:26:25 and Miles all vibing out to the one in Hawaii. Like literally Taylor said it best. Like everybody, time flies, but I'm right where you left me. I'm right where you left me at that video. Like I have not moved on from that video. No, and Aaron Rodgers is a folklore girly. Yes, he's definitely. He's in his folklore era. Yeah, and so a lot of people were filming him during the show when the Evermore era was. Because he was living his best life.
Starting point is 00:26:48 He was having fun. I think he has like a, kind of like a reputation for being like a little bit of like a, like a sourpuss, you know? Okay. So it was nice to see him
Starting point is 00:26:56 like living his best life. And you know what? Like this is kind of, in my opinion, going to be the renaissance of Aaron Rodgers. Like in terms of celebrity. Because he's now like, you know, the number one guy in New York. Yeah. He's going to bring this renaissance of Aaron Rodgers, like in terms of celebrity. Because he's now like, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:05 the number one guy in New York. Yeah. He's going to bring this defunct franchise, hopefully into a new era. And I think a lot of people are putting like a lot of pressure on him. And I think he's going to, I think he's going to show up for us.
Starting point is 00:27:15 You think he's going to rise to the occasion? I do. I won't lie. I did miss Shailene in those videos. I know. Her absence was felt by me. I would have loved to see her like running around barefoot in the tent.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah. Yeah. That was tough. Yeah. But would have loved to see her like running around barefoot in the tent. Yeah. Yeah. That was tough. Yeah. But I'm glad that the crew was still crewing. Yeah. The Tellers and the Rogers.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah. Okay. Ready for our next story? No. If I could truly come back to life as one person, like it might be Kelly Teller.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah. For so many reasons. But her association to Taylor is definitely up there. Oh, yeah. But that's not even like number top three. No, she's literally gorgeous. She's married to Miles Teller. She has like such a cool family.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Like they're all like always hanging out and like being best friends. And they're all sisters and the husbands are. What's that like? Yeah, no, no. It's like it's giving us but like better and like non-Jewish, you know, like they're literally like giving non-Jewish ashramray energy and they have like kids and they're like always going on vacation like it's just really it looks nice yeah what's the taylor jason story maddie healy oh what now he's gonna gave an interview to the new yorker and he's uh dismissing
Starting point is 00:28:18 diluted podcast controversy amid the taylor rumors. So three months after Mattie Healy recorded a controversial Adam Friedland show podcast episodes, he wants haters to shake it off. In the 1975 Frontman told a New Yorker in an interview published Monday that his February comments don't actually matter and were a little bit bait for naysayers. He said, quote, nobody is sitting there at night slumped at their computer and their boyfriend comes over and goes, what's wrong, darling? And they go, it's just this thing with Maddie Healy. He said that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And then when he subsequently acknowledged that maybe it does happen, he called those affected people deluded individuals. He said, you're either lying that you are hurt or you're a bit mental for being hurt. It's just people going, oh, there's a bad thing over there. Let me get as close to it as possible so you can see how good I am. And I kind of want them to do that because they're demonstrating something so base level. Well, it's a very brave hot take on like internet culture and kind of stan culture too. Because like when someone you like or idolize, you know, maybe makes a decision or does something that you don't wholeheartedly agree with people love to be like this really hurts and I think we need to be really careful about language because you're not hurt you're living your life and really this has not
Starting point is 00:29:34 affected you whatsoever so I think what what he's saying and I actually really agree with is like the way stan culture like manipulates language and also like blows things out of proportion all the time it really needs to be spoken about like more more so than anything yeah i think it's a really fresh take yeah it's a hot take i appreciate it and i don't think he's wrong like it really doesn't affect people's day-to-day and if it does like and maybe it does that's a you problem no and that's really like a psychological issue that that person needs to work on because if you're letting the words and by the way what's so interesting and I've really and in this case it's not even the words of like your favorite 1975 frontman it's the words of your
Starting point is 00:30:13 favorite girl's boyfriend right it's really like so disconnected and it's so far removed but the way people really like enwrap themselves in celebrities is really toxic and this is like the perfect example of that like you should not be personally offended by what someone who you've never met has done or said you know it's not it's not healthy no no but it's also just like offense culture yeah well of course and that's what he's saying it's like it's not about people actually being offended it's like them having something to say against you and just like being so excited to have like the moral high ground I also think sometimes when things like this happen it's not that always just the stands who are like grabbing their pictures it's just
Starting point is 00:30:51 anybody who wants to feel like morally superior being like you did a bad thing right right and I don't know just like for me even if like the person who I love most in this world like in terms of celebrity and idol is really Taylor and if she did something that like or said said said something that like I really disagree with like sure would I care yes would I literally move on with my life and like would my life be affected no has she never said anything that you disagree with up until this point of course she has but right it doesn't register yeah no we just move on right and you could still love somebody like this whole concept that like you can only be a fan of somebody who agrees with every single principle it literally reminds me when Jay Shetty was on the podcast he was like talking about how it's important to date
Starting point is 00:31:32 someone with similar values to you but at the end of the day like your values are like DNA like they're even someone even you and I have different values but we're so different because it's so specific to literally who you are in every human experience you've ever had and so to expect that of someone and to project that on someone is so toxic and like you're never impossible it's impossible I was having this conversation with someone I feel like sometimes you talk about someone and it's like well I don't agree with everything that they think or say it's like I couldn't name one person on this earth who I agree with about every single thing.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Literally you and I. Not even you. Even though we agree about 99.999% of things. No, and that's okay. And it's like, what happened to celebrate? What happened to hello? How are you? This qualifier you have to put in front of everything.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, no, it's like, well, duh. Duh. We're all different people. We've all experienced different things. Right. So people, the people who he's talking to in this article, then I saw on TikTok, they were like, I am so upset. Like, really, people need to touch grass.
Starting point is 00:32:33 They absolutely got to get off the internet. Like, some people just can't handle the internet. And I think that's okay, but they need to acknowledge that. But they're the most internet of all. I know. And they have, like, power. They're the most, they're spending the most time online. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:43 It's like their insane content and backlash requires Mattie Healy to do stuff like this this article. Yeah yeah but I also think he likes like ruffling everyone's feathers. He does. And letting them know that he still doesn't care and they're not getting their apology. Yeah no he does this thing now at the beginning not the beginning in the middle of his shows where he talks in between songs but um he's like about to say something crazy and the music cuts him off like the band band comes in. So he's like, is it anti-Semitic to say? And then the band comes in and it's like it's funny. Like it's it really is like a joke. And I think people really... That's so funny. I saw one of those. And they do it at like every show. And like taken out of context. I thought it was just one. It's like even his band doesn't want him to
Starting point is 00:33:19 speak because they know what he says is gonna be so terrible. Right. But he's clearly like he's clearly commentating on the state of culture but some people are too dense and too in it to even see that like they're actually being mocked yeah but they don't they don't see it they're like look he can't hold himself back people are so not fucking okay like honestly this is funny to me it is it is funny to me and I'm I'm shipping for tailored No me too Obsessed Even though he wasn't At any of the concerts This weekend
Starting point is 00:33:46 But I think he had work to do Like you know he's also He's been really supportive A celebrity Yeah Are you ready for our next story Some more concert news But not tailored
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yes Proud mom Beyonce Praises her daughter's Parents performance Beyonce paid tribute To daughter Blue Ivy Following the 11 year old Surprise cameo
Starting point is 00:34:04 During her mom's Renaissance tour on Friday. She said, my beautiful firstborn, I'm so proud and thankful to be your mama. You bring us so much joy, my sweet angel. That's so cute. Blue Ivy came out during Beyonce's performance of her song, My Power, and she sang along with the, she danced along with the dancers. I was like, oh, I didn't see her sing. No, no, sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:24 No, she's a very good dancer. Yeah. like she was keeping up with the professional choreography yeah and I think she came out again the next night yeah I saw two different videos of her dancing this is the kind of nepotism I absolutely love to see totally like obsessed and it's just like fun for the fans yeah and she like if you're you know zoomed out on the show like it's just another dancer right she's keeping up she's not a detriment right right I think it's awesome and it's such a cool opportunity especially if she loves to dance like why not dance on the biggest stage in the world right what if I just what if I just called up mom and went on the renaissance tour so cool she looked great she kept up she's a very very skilled dancer and Beyonce's dancers I mean all dancers on like big tours do the most.
Starting point is 00:35:05 But like Beyonce's dancers really take it to like another level. So her being able to keep up, like I see a future for Blue. Yeah. Kylie was at Beyonce's show in Paris. Kylie was stunting on them hoes in those Chanel looks. She was stunting on those Parisian hoes. She was stunting on that cobblestone. She was having a great weekend in Paris.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I loved the Chanel looks. Were they all Chanel? I think so. I thought some she's like they're she's like the new face of D&G also. Oh how does Courtney feel about that? I know because like I saw on her stories like there was pictures of her like in the display. Oh I'm so sorry I I thought they were all Chanel but I might just be I don't even know I'm thinking where did I hear that. No I thought they were Dolce, but I might just be. I don't even know. I'm thinking where did I hear that? No, I thought they were Dolce. I didn't hear Chanel. She was just giving a very classy energy. Yeah, maybe I assume. No, I'm not making that up. Like, I heard it somewhere.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I'm going to Google. I'm going to Google. What'd you Google? Kylie Jenner, Dolce and Gabbana. Okay, now Google Kylie Jenner, Chanel. Okay. I would love that for her. I mean, they looked so like crisp white Chanel.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Two days ago, she stopped by the Chanel store. Oh, okay. In a white mini skirt and matching blazer. But who made that outfit? That white outfit was like the one. Yeah. She looked so adorable. But she's also like, she's been doing a lot of couture stuff
Starting point is 00:36:25 and she's the new face she did john paul jpg jpg not the nazi it's very confusing jean-paul gaultier yeah very different than oh her john galliano who's very different from jean maljean she is wearing a look by maximilian Davis. Oh, okay. Oh, you could buy it now. How much is it? $435 for the skirt on Matches Fashion. Okay, that's like less than I expected. Yeah, I thought this, yeah, was like, you know, bespoke.
Starting point is 00:36:56 It's so cute. I'll accept these cookies. Oh, and the top is on sale for $725. Wow, Kylie wearing a $1,000 look. Thrifty queen. Like, I love this outfit Arganista She's a Maxinista
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah she's balling on a budget Balling on a budget Tough times over at Kylie Cosmetics It's such a cute outfit I can't believe it's so accessible Like if it only would fit me right now I would snatch it up Her stories at the concert
Starting point is 00:37:18 Like looked so fun I love when Kylie just like Kylie doesn't go out much Has a night out with her friends But when she does She goes big She's doing the most She's flying to Paris.
Starting point is 00:37:25 She's in the box. She's taking everyone with her. They're drinking. They're making TikToks. She goes all out. They're going full glam. It's like a, it's a quarterly affair. No, I feel like it depends on the season of her life, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah, of course. Because there was a time when it was like a weekly affair and she really loves more than any of the other girls like partying. Yeah. She's the youngest. Like I literally forget she's the youngest because she's so mature and like her business and her family like she's got it all secured. But she's literally like 24.
Starting point is 00:37:52 No she's like 20. I think she's turning 27. Really? Yeah. Is she older or younger than the snatchler? That's a good question. Age. Her birthday's in August.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Oh she's 25 right now and she's turning 26. So she's Margo's age. That's literally so young. Yeah. Her birthday's in August. Oh, she's 25 right now and she's turning 26. So she's Margot's age. That's literally so young. Yeah. She's Margot. Yeah. Just like a little cooler. Just a little.
Starting point is 00:38:14 No, I really mean it. Just a little. Margot's really cool. Margot's really cool. You got to spend a lot of time with her this weekend. I know. I don't know if Era's tour on Friday night was so amazing because the show was so amazing or because I got like the most quality undivided core memory attention from the snatcher like that was the best part of the night what'd you guys talk about like in the car on the way there that's a good question we talked
Starting point is 00:38:36 we actually talked about like the whole car ride that's so snatcher we were like planning logistics charging our phones she's not super chatty in general but like if you get her in a car she'll start talking no she won't stop we should hang out get her in a car, she'll start talking. No, she won't stop. We should hang out with her in cars more often. We should get, I've actually been thinking, like I'm, I think it's time for like the first time in my life, like I need to get a car. And that would be good for your.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And maybe I'll just drive around town and scoop up the snatcher. I'll be her chauffeur. That would be good for your relationship with her. She'll sit in the back and I'll sit in the front. And she'll just start talking. Yeah. Yeah. So what'd you guys talk about?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Just like everything. Do you think like more like era stuff or like life stuff? Like both. Interesting. You guys talk about me? I was going to say, I was trying to remember if you came up, but like I don't think you did. Sorry.
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Starting point is 00:43:02 Our next story, Tom Sandoval was seen talking on the phone with Raquel after a breakup news. Yeah, this picture went viral of him on a plane. On the phone, contact Raquel Levis. Right, he was like on a phone call and his phone was like kind of turned outward, like towards the person taking the photo. You think it was intentional? Well, then I fell down a rabbit hole on TikTok of people being like, you know, he's doing, you know, PR.
Starting point is 00:43:24 There's like a lot of speculation in the last couple of days like he had broken up with Raquel he was dating this influencer then that influencer deactivated all of her socials actually Kristen Doty is on the good guys podcast this week I was watching it this morning I have like 10 minutes left um and she was talking about how like he was speculated to have been dating this girl and then like the girl is an influencer and she literally deactivated all of her social media maybe because she didn't want to be associated with Tom and like an influencer would never because if an influencer was actually dating him they would be like eating all this up right um just quick shout out to the good guys so I don't know what he would be getting out of this if it is
Starting point is 00:43:56 like a PR stunt it just like looked it looked a little a little staged but it also looked very you know boots on the ground Tom in the wild I don't think it's staged but I also like really try to give people the benefit of the doubt but I really could imagine like he's hiding his face and I feel like he thinks that like that's all he's concerned about and doesn't realize that yeah because we've never really caught someone like this it's not like a known thing it's very intimate like you know what I mean like I feel like there's a way where he didn't even realize that he was showing people that. Because he was more so worried about like himself.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Which is so Tom Sandoval. Yeah. I wonder where he was going. He was on a plane. I also don't think that they broke up. Like there's been so many rumors coming out. Like I don't believe any of them. Yeah. I think that they are together and in love.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I don't think she's pregnant. But I would sooner believe that she's pregnant Than that they broke up He was dating someone else They were talking on the phone Yeah Like this whole mess Yeah yeah I don't think he's dating someone else
Starting point is 00:44:50 I do I mean I honestly hope They're still together Like for both of their sakes Mostly hers But I do think She's still in a facility She hasn't been seen
Starting point is 00:44:58 Or heard from So maybe She has her cell phone Right maybe it was like Their weekly call time I don't think she has like You know Unlimited access to her phone in a place like that.
Starting point is 00:45:06 No, she doesn't. Because she's writing letters. Right. The Morgan letters. But I guess the letter said, didn't say, dear Tom. Maybe not. Well, maybe it started out, dear Tom. But it wasn't a breakup letter.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah. It's like, dear Tom, the food is great. And I'm making a lot of friends. Yeah. Dear Tom tom send socks i'm all out like camp yeah i used to like hate writing letters at camp but you know what when they used to have those books of letters that were like kind of like mad libs where it was yeah i would fill it in for my friends are blank i'm having a blank time at camp and you would be like
Starting point is 00:45:41 awesome yeah it would make letter writing so easy terrible right but now um when I look back on like letter writing at camp it's like so I look back on it so fondly like I wish I did it more it's such a beautiful concept and like you know at our camp some like maybe once a week you would have to write a letter um you'd have to show up to dinner with a letter just so like they made sure everyone was writing their parents it was nice now I guess they have like cell phone time at camp which is so crazy to me and like honestly not to sound like a grandma I think camp was so amazing because we were so disconnected like friend from like friends from home like it didn't matter there was no need to like I wasn't writing my friends letters at other camps I was just writing my parents maybe like once throughout the summer I would exchange
Starting point is 00:46:20 with like a inter camp letter but like camp was its own universe. Yeah. And everyone was in their own camp universe. You know? Yeah. It didn't feel like you were missing stuff at home. But like our parents like paid to like for us to have this amazing time. Like the least we could do was write them a fucking letter.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Yeah. But I found it like so dreadful. I'm like, oh, letter? I didn't, I was like, I'm having a great time. Like please don't pick me up. Like I never want to see you guys again. Like I loved camp so much. Like literally,
Starting point is 00:46:42 I didn't want to be connected to the outside world. Right, but I feel like when you know your kids which you know most parents do it's like not getting a letter from Claudia is a good sign is a good sign not getting a letter from most kids is probably a good sign because you know no news is good news they're having too much fun they're playing jacks at night they're not writing letters in their bed alone with their flashlight like that's something I'm really excited about to have kids like but I don't know how I'm gonna fare I'm gonna be so jealous of my kids when they go to camp but I guess that's like when I'll travel and like get my life back yeah but knowing that my kids are like making memories like playing jacks like
Starting point is 00:47:12 getting tan living like so carefree maybe having their first boyfriend like I'll be so jealous I'm literally gonna show up at camp every day be like hey girlies what's up man I'm literally I'm literally gonna be like the mom that works at camp like I'm gonna be the arts and crafts teacher yeah because I love camp so much no you'll have to create a life for yourself that's outside more exciting like maybe you get a lake house and then you're with like fellow like lake couples and you're having your own like adult swingers camp if I get a lake house I will be jealous all right put that on my list of like I need like a oh I just never mind um I have like a 10-year plan. Lake House is one of them. Lake House greater than Beach House?
Starting point is 00:47:48 Like, I kind of am into the lakey vibes. Maybe it's because last night I literally finished Meet Me at the Lake, the Carly Fortune book, and she really knows how to romanticize a lake. Her books always take place in Toronto, like Lake Muskoka. And I gotta go. I started the new book by May Cobb who wrote The Hunting Wives. That's what I'm going to read next. I think you'll like it because it's pretty spicy. I don wrote The Hunting Wives that's what I'm gonna read next I think you'll like it because it's pretty spicy I don't remember Hunting Wives it was
Starting point is 00:48:09 there was a lot of like lesbian like all these like straight married like uptight rich women like fucking each other on the weekends really yeah there was like a lesbian undercurrent it was very sexy I don't remember that because I was like damn May Cobb and now I'm like I put this book on my story people think I'm reading porn oh is it like full of now you're making me want to read it even more no it was just like but so far like the plot is finished but I don't I have no idea what's coming okay maybe I'm gonna wait for you to finish it like maybe it's good for my book club oh I'll let you know but like is spice good for the book club the book club loves spice oh okay yeah we all we all we all
Starting point is 00:48:45 swap it's like there's something about it i feel like you know when you're reading something and it's like this is so stupid and then but by the end it makes sense like why all those stupid things happened like someone was intentionally being stupid right so i don't want to judge it until i'm done with it because right now it's like i could poke a few holes okay i could poke a few i also read the housemaid this weekend. Oh, yeah. I read all weekend. I didn't watch TV except for Succession.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I read The Housemaid and the sequel. So good. Yeah, I read it like really quick on a weekend. Both of them. Both of them I read in one day. Good. Good books. The second one I like started at noon and I finished at 10 p.m.
Starting point is 00:49:18 There's, she writes like a lot of good thrillers. Like I think she's an author now. If you pick up her book, like you know it's good. Like a Sally Hepworth. You know you're always going to get it. She's a good writer. There were a lot of twists that I didn't see coming. Yeah. Freedom McFadden. I would recommend's an author now. If you pick up her book, like, you know, it's good. Like a Sally Hepworth, you know, you're always going to get it. She's a good writer. There are a lot of twists that I didn't see coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Freedom McFadden. I would recommend. Okay, good. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. New couple alert. Haley Steinfeld has been dating Josh Allen for a few weeks, says a source. They're having fun.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah, this was interesting. Josh Allen's like a star. Yeah. Haley Steinfeld and Josh Allen have been hanging out for a few weeks. A source close to the couple told people magazine. Um, the cute couple had been photographed together multiple times over the last few days in New York city.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Why wasn't she at. Eras. She's in the bad. She's a former squad girl. Yeah. Did they end on bad terms? She was like in the squad and then never to be seen again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:02 But she was really in the squad. She's kind of like one of the faces of the squad. Core members. There were some randos. Yeah, of course. Who only got like the invite once. Yeah. But she's core squad.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Yeah. Anyways, the insider said it's new, but they're having fun. Was he married? I don't think so. I feel like they're always doing packages about him on ESPN. He's a star. And I'm always happening to watch them.
Starting point is 00:50:29 No, he's 27. Oh, he's young. I'm not seeing a marriage here. Hailey Steinfeld has an amazing dating track record. Like, Niall Horan. Okay. Josh Allen. And that's all I can think of.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And I also don't fully believe in Niall Horan. You don't? I feel like that was more PR convenient. A little bit oh I could see that having been Haley Steinfeld like is such a good level of celebrity I feel like she makes a lot of money like she's very um A-list but she's not like she probably has a normal life like she can go to the grocery store but she can date whoever she wants you know yeah no I really I love this for her if true I'm wondering why they weren't at Arras maybe they'll be at the one at the Buffalo Bills there isn't one maybe Pittsburgh I don't know if Pittsburgh is close to Buffalo but I feel like it
Starting point is 00:51:12 is I don't think it is I think it is Philly south of here and Buffalo is north of here such a good point yeah well actually Pennsylvania is west of here oh but. But still, Buffalo's north. I'm just going to put this room at rest and figure it out right now. Ready? I guess we'll just look at a map. Pittsburgh to Buffalo. I'm just pulling up Google Maps. One thing about me, I don't know geography, and I never will.
Starting point is 00:51:41 It just really depends for me. Oh, Pittsburgh is so west. Where's Buffalo? Okay, they're like not far from each other, but they're not. I'm just like not seeing Buffalo. By the way, they're actually like, by the way, what's so crazy is like Pennsylvania and Buffalo
Starting point is 00:51:56 and Pittsburgh and Buffalo are so far from here. Like you think it's all like northeast. It's so far. No, Pittsburgh is like on the western border of pennsylvania and buffalo is literally in canada yeah when i did a show in like buffalo rochester area people were like driving from toronto oh actually i'm sorry buffalo would be closer to pittsburgh it's kind of a triangle but the buffalo side is closer to pittsburgh much everything it's not due north it's's northwest of New York. Everything I know about geography, which is extremely limited, I only know because of
Starting point is 00:52:28 tour. Like, I know nothing about geography from school. That was like not even a class I took. It depends on the location. You know, I like to pride myself on being an arbiter of New York geography because I went to school upstate, but I don't know where the fuck Buffalo is. There are parts of New York and parts of Pennsylvania that are so far away it's crazy yeah that I knew yeah like Syracuse Utica yeah I know that's upstate like classic classic where all the colleges are yeah but also
Starting point is 00:52:59 classic is like Hudson Valley upstate yeah that's like fup state yeah because it's like an hour yeah yeah um what was the story oh yeah Josh Allen and Hanley Steinfeld here for it Josh Allen like I know nothing about football I don't even I think I think he plays for Buffalo but like I really know nothing beyond that he said pride and joy of Buffalo and they're really passionate fans but he I what I know about him is he had old tweets and he went from like the number one draft pick to like number 90 and had like all this promise and I relate about him is he had old tweets. And he went from the number one draft pick to number 90. And had all this promise. And I relate to him because things from our past should not come back to haunt you.
Starting point is 00:53:30 And I really felt bad for him in that moment. And he got it together. Now he has a great contract. But he was number one kid from that year. And he had some song lyrics with inappropriate words. And his life was over. And I honestly just... I feel like you've told that story before. But I genuinely forgot.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And that's so crazy. It's all I think about. I feel like you've told that story before, but I genuinely forgotten. That's so crazy. It's all I think about. But because he's obviously accomplished a lot since then. I feel like every time I walk past the TV when Zach's watching sports, it's a package about Josh Allen and how he gives back to his community. Does he? Yeah. Like he's really the beacon.
Starting point is 00:53:57 They love him. Love that. His community loves him. But you know who else Buffalo loved? Who was a beacon of their community? OJ. So maybe they don't have a great barometer. Radar?
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yeah. Okay, well, way to ruin a beautiful story. Those are just like, there are a few things I know about football, and one of them is that like OJ was like the king of Buffalo. Is that really his like, he played for a few teams, but like Buffalo was like. Yeah, but like that's where his greatest moments happened. That's like LeBron and the Cavaliers.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Exactly. Or no, like LeBron And the Cavaliers Exactly Or no like LeBron and the Heat No The Heat was just like A transient experience So he could get a ring But he was taking his
Starting point is 00:54:30 Talents to South Beach Yeah so he could get A ring but he's Cleveland Like he's Cavaliers Yeah you're right You're right He's Cavaliers
Starting point is 00:54:37 King Charles Should we dive into This section recap Before our interview We shall So last night's Well two nights ago's Episode
Starting point is 00:54:44 The series finale of Succession. Let me tell you how I will not miss the show. But like, of course, and I've been very hard on it this entire year. Of course, the final episode was good, as it should be. Well, no, it ended really good. Like now I can say the episode was good, but there were times while I was watching it where I was like, how much longer is this episode? Oh, I didn't feel that way.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I thought it was a very good episode of TV. I need to get to the board meeting. But the fact that like the board meeting didn't go, that the kids like didn't stick together. Right, it was like this climax. Like, you know, the kids are fighting, but then they go to the Caribbean and they work on it together
Starting point is 00:55:14 and they all finally agree. Like it really can only be Kendall. And then they're having fun in the kitchen and they're walking in there together and they're strong and they're a team. Peak. And then like Roman starts to break a little bit and Shiv obviously breaks during the meeting.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And it really was like a roller coaster and I enjoyed it even better like having to suffer through them pretending to be like good siblings to each other and like having like a fun kitchen moment yeah and like just like thinking that they're like a cute family and they're just like not they're not um it was like kind of painful to watch but I know that like for the fans of like the kids they probably ate that up yeah uh but then to see it all come crashing down was like really justifying for me but it was interesting because for so long like I was on I was on Logan's side when he was alive like his kids were the were really entitled and they didn't deserve his business and they just wanted it because they thought they should have it not because they actually earned deserved or are good for it
Starting point is 00:56:02 right and this was his thing that he built as like. But worse than being just like lazy and entitled, they actively worked against him. Right. And made the last year of his life as stressful as possible. So I was on Team Logan. And then when Logan was out of the picture, I didn't really know where to land. And I think for a while, like the most tolerable kid was Roman.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yes. And over the last season, like I just found myself not being able to root for him. And he definitely got, you know, a little ahead of himself. And with the Jerry thing, like he was just. Yes. And over the last season like I just found myself not being able to root for him and he definitely got you know a little ahead of himself and with the Jerry thing like he was just fucking weird and like kind of gross and all like the gross stuff he used to say like at first it was like a part of his personality but in this last year was like ew like yeah he couldn't root for him. No and he was definitely my favorite kid. I missed the last two episodes where I just saw pieces of him so I don't really he seems to have some sort of breakdown um but I also will remember to like the first season when he was like really I don't know what the word is but like twisted yeah you know and dark dark and like I'm
Starting point is 00:56:55 even the first episode there was like something with the watch and one of the kids like he was just like gross and and I can't think of what the word was. But then when, so I think of him as CEO, I'm like, you're not the right person either. Like you're into like dark stuff. They have too much baggage, Kendall and Roman. Roman, obviously Kendall's a murderer. And Roman. But also like aside from the murder, which is not a good thing, not good to murder.
Starting point is 00:57:22 He literally like brought all that Cruz's stuff to light. Like he tried so many different ways to destroy the company. Like why would you be at the helm of it? And so now he cares about keeping it in the family. Right. But he didn't. But like you tried to take it from your dad so many times to give it to no one. Like when he was working on his like other projects like the art collective thing.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Like I just I can't. And then Shiv like she's the only one who doesn't have like this you know skeleton filled closet but she's the least qualified she's never worked at the company she like took on a passion project and like worked in politics for a while but she knows nothing about running a business and she's probably the most entitled out of any of them because she's the least qualified and really was the last one who would give it up to Kendall like she was the one who took the most convincing. But what was interesting is like by the end,
Starting point is 00:58:07 I kind of did find myself being like, well, it should be Kendall. And like when he didn't get it, I was like, oh, like it was a weird mix of I hate these kids. None of them are deserving. But by the end, I'm like, well, it should be Kendall. Like I did want them to keep the business in the family because it was what Logan wanted.
Starting point is 00:58:21 But they did keep the business in the family. Well, by proxy through Shiv through Tom right now the also Logan was selling to Gojo right and he wanted to and that's true stop the deal that's true actually and he was literally going over there to make the deal happen so you could say Logan wanted this Logan wanted that I don't I really don't think that beyond his lifetime Logan cared what happened or else he would have had like a much more stable plan concrete will and everything now the arc of Siobhan you know girl bossing her way to the top without ever like working a real job only to end up as the wife of the CEO when she started out as the daughter of the CEO, like is too rich, honestly.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Like the final scene of the car, like where she's literally just taking his hand, waiting for him in the car. It was really ironic and it was very well done. Like it was poetic how she just tried to girl boss her way to the top. And, you know, she was always the like token woman in the room, but she really had no,
Starting point is 00:59:22 like she had no business being there no business being there like beyond being a woman like she that was actually like her only qualification to like to shake things up right her like even at times throughout the seasons when like Logan would kind of turn to her like she might have been the future of the company is because she's like a woman right and she's could be more ushering in a new era. But no, now she's just resigned to being a baby maker. Right. No, and so like for that scene,
Starting point is 00:59:53 I thought like the most powerful scene was when they got in the car. And like Tom, this like dopey fucking moron, who actually was the only one who like got up and went to work every day. You know what? He actually gets the job. like it was so honestly brilliant it was brilliant I can't believe that it turned out so beautifully like I just assumed it would be uh an ending that I would hate because I've hated most of the show but like Tom is I mean everyone likes Tom and Greg the best I do think they're that they're the least insufferable but
Starting point is 01:00:22 also when it comes to like who's doing work who knows how the business works who is typing and sitting at a desk right who's looking at papers and things not just being like call gotta fly yeah right right like actually doing a job it's tom he's worked in cruises he did atn he's worked for the company for as long as like he's known sh. Like he has qualifications. Maybe he's not the smartest guy in the room or, you know, he's not going to be the business. But they don't need the smartest guy in the room. They have Mattson. The person is a puppet. And Shiv, Kendall and Roman were never going to be what Mattson needed.
Starting point is 01:00:59 And when Mattson said, like, I don't want more ideas. Right. That's so Tom. I felt that. Yeah. No. And that's literally Tom to a T. Like he was up Logan's ideas. Right. That's so Tom. I felt that. Yeah. No. And that's literally Tom to a T. Like he was up Logan's ass.
Starting point is 01:01:08 He was up Shiv's ass. Like he would just do what people told him to do. Like when Tom is asked a question, he will give both answers. Yes and no. Yep. He's like, well, I could do this, but also I could see that. And I see value in both. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:18 What did you think about like him forgiving Greg in that final moment? Like they had been through it all in the very end like Greg fucked it so bad yeah Greg I think that he should forgive Greg because like he's gonna need people by his side and who understands better than Tom like needing to throw someone under the bus for your own personal game like needing to play but like Tom was playing both sides the whole time too like trying to stay in everyone's good graces so I think he'll forgive Greg because it worked out if it hadn it worked out. If it hadn't worked out, like no.
Starting point is 01:01:46 So what do you think happens to the Roy kids now? Well, they have a ton of money. Yeah, because they sold. Because they sold. So they are buying Pierce still? Question mark? Whatever happened to that? Whatever happened to the $10 billion whole episode that we had to watch?
Starting point is 01:01:58 Right. But no, I mean, like, are they forgiving each other? Like, is it irreparable? Are Chiv and and Kendall gonna be like you know Logan and his brother I don't think it's irreparable because all throughout the seasons they like hated each other on off on off and then they get back together they'll never like be actual good siblings to each other family because they're incapable but I just think it's another part of the up and down yeah maybe they'll start the hundred and the way that like roman went so hard only to
Starting point is 01:02:25 just give up like he didn't even care like he had like when he was co-ceo with kendall he had like a two-week period where he was a fucking nut job like calling the election just because he felt like it like really nuts and then right after that he stopped caring like he went to the caribbean and even at the board like he didn't care anymore no even they're trying to have a conversation about which way they're going to vote and he's walking away and it's like, well, you're not, you can't even have a conversation. How would you think you should be CEO right now of all of them on? It's a tie for Kendall. For it's a tie.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Shiv and Roman. It's a tie three for who's the best choice. And it's a tie of three for who's the worst. No, if there is a choice, it's Kendall. No, because that doesn't mean he's a good choice.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Kendall did the most harm to the company over the years. Yeah. No. And Kendall's just like dumb. And Roman like worked for the company. He would worked in LA. Yeah. Yeah. But, and Kendall's just like dumb. And Roman like worked for the company. He worked in LA. Yeah. But like, it's not Roman.
Starting point is 01:03:09 So did Kendall though. Yeah. Well, that's that on that. Goodbye. Goodbye. But like, I just want to say, I loved how it shook up at the end. Me too. It was really kind of stunning.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And honestly, I think Logan would have liked it too. I think so too. And also, Tom was the only one who never betrayed Logan. Mm-hmm. Because he's a puppet. Yeah. He's a pawn. So really, Mattson is in charge. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:33 And the company moves into the future with an eccentric tech CEO. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess Tom is going to wipe out everyone who was like, they never included him. Like Frank, Carl, Jerry. He's wiping them all out. He's the big man now and he's got like vendettas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Now he's like, as an actual powerful person, he's more powerful than all the people who he like sought attention from. Yeah. Who never gave it to him. But I could also see him keeping them on and like just making them grovel. Oh yes.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Because he's also like a little bit like Machiavellian evil. Yeah. He likes to do with Greg. Yeah. And now he's got more power. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's also like a little bit like Machiavellian evil yeah he likes to do with Greg yeah he's got more power yeah yeah yeah and he's gonna be a father everything's coming up Tom I'm ready for the Tom sequel the Tom spinoff yeah that's interesting yeah and I don't know maybe it was because he was like finally in charge but I was like yeah Tom's hot yeah also obviously Tom and Shiv are not a love match and when they were finally like honest with each other on the balcony like that was really refreshing.
Starting point is 01:04:25 But I also feel like they can make it work. You know, I ship. Yeah, like I don't think that. I mean, I hope to God for her. Like that's really all she has. Yeah, well, no, she has like billions of dollars. Of course, of course. And now she'll have a baby.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Right, she can get into charity work. And she could also like meet someone else. But I think like this life is the life that she's meant for you know yeah husband to see a voice star royco yeah it's nice okay couldn't be me but but i really appreciated her about face and then by the end i got it you know it's like should it be kendall who is the devil you know the devil you know tom or the devil you don't the devil that you like she controls tom like can control tom kendall's like so wild and really like a wild card.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Loose cannon. She chose Tom over Kendall. And if that ain't saying a lot then I don't know what is. Yeah. You would do it too. You would do it too. So that's your Succession Series finale recap. But don't be upset.
Starting point is 01:05:20 The episode is not over. Please continue listening for our interview with Brooke Eby. She is a delight. I think you guys will love her. It's a great, fun-filled episode and interview. And that's our show. So without further ado-da-do-da-do, I present to you, Brooke. The interview. The inimitable. Brooke Eby. The wickedly talented Brooke Eby. Goodbye. Goodbye. Welcome back to The Toast. We are so excited to be sitting down with an extremely special guest. We have a toaster. We have an advocate. We have a TikToker jealous.
Starting point is 01:05:52 We are sitting down with Brooke Eby, who is a toaster by in her heart, correct? In my heart deep in there. Okay, good. But she's also a TikToker who has been documenting her amazing journey with her terminal diagnosis of ALS. Her TikToks were popping up all over my For You page like a week ago. And then everyone started tagging me in one of her videos. She had been asked, you know, is there any sort of list you have, sort of like an ALS bucket list that you would love to do? And one of the things on her list was to come on the toast. So I was not okay. Immediately, you know, had to make
Starting point is 01:06:25 everything about myself and I reached out and a few days later here you are hello Brooke welcome to the toast oh my gosh thank you so much I know I was listening to your show a couple days ago and I was like guys I manifested this it's like no everyone tagged Claudia yeah see that's the same thing that's what manifestation is that's what we call it these days. But thank you so much for having me. We're so excited to have you. And we're so flattered that we could be such a big part of your life and that this is such an honor. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:53 It was like an eight-bullet list. I call it the adult make-a-wish. And Toast was on there. That is such an honor for us. We are so excited to have you. So I'm sure a lot of people have seen your TikToks. It's ALS Awareness Month. So a lot of your posts have been going really viral.
Starting point is 01:07:06 But for some of our, you know, not TikTok friendly users and listeners. Even though you are on Reels. She is. My Reels fans. Yeah. Reels fans are Reels fans. A hundred percent. She said it.
Starting point is 01:07:18 She said it. She said it. Tell us about your journey. A, you know, your diagnosis, how long it's been going on. And then your decision to document the whole journey on TikTok. Yeah, absolutely. So I started having symptoms in 2018. I actually was listening to the toast throughout my four year diagnosis period. So this is a bizarre coming of age moment. But I started limping in 2018. Like I work in the corporate world. I was living in New York City and I just started limping on the way to a conference and all my
Starting point is 01:07:48 co-workers were like you should probably get that checked out and I did but they could not find anything for basically a year then I had basically four years of testing where they could not diagnose me they couldn't figure anything out and then beginning of last year, I started noticing I was limping on the other side as well, which is when they were able to test me and officially give me an ALS diagnosis, which some people know is Lou Gehrig's disease. All the baseball people know it as Lou Gehrig's disease. I don't look much like him. No, no, you're beautiful, stunning, and smart.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I know I don't look much like him so I know you're beautiful stunning and smart um but yeah so four years of diagnosis or really the diagnosis process and then once I was diagnosed it took me like two to three months of straight depression like sitting in my bed binge eating m&ms I listened to your book on tape, like all of these things, all of these things come back to the totes. But yeah, I didn't know what to do. And I was just like, how do I process this? How do I grieve what I thought, you know, my 30s were going to be the rest of my life was going to be. And then I had to go to a wedding where you've probably seen this on TikTok. But I had to use a walker at a wedding with all of my college friends. Like, can you imagine anything more embarrassing
Starting point is 01:09:10 than like waddling your way in and your bridesmaid dress? But like an hour into it, the bride was limboing under my walker. I was giving people walker rides all over the dance floor. Like it just ended up being so fun. Yeah. And so I was like, you know what, I feel like I should start sharing this story with more people because I'm able to laugh about it. And I think people are so scared to ask questions about anything serious when it comes to like a terminal diagnosis. No one wants to say the wrong thing. They're afraid of being like inappropriate or, you know, offensive. But I figured if I could laugh about it and start making videos about it, then maybe we could spread the word a little bit more. Yeah. I mean, because when I saw your TikToks, I'm like, oh my God, this girl has such energy. Like she radiates
Starting point is 01:09:56 positivity and you're always smiling. But I was curious if like, you know, when you first got the diagnosis, there was like a dark period. Cause I think that's a very natural reaction. It was bleak. Yeah. It was a couple of months of just like survival. Um, and I was not in a good place when people would ask me about it. Like I couldn't talk about it. So I actually think making videos for like Tik TOK and real, um, have both have really made me comfortable talking about it. and I just feel like we can laugh about it a little bit now even though some people write like why is she smiling and I'm like I can't help it I don't know it's just my face you have a beautiful smile oh thank you so much yeah I feel like you know there are so many I think people don't want to tap dance and don't
Starting point is 01:10:44 want to say the wrong thing, but I think your attitude is so amazing. Like even I, and that's very much my, our philosophy. Like you got to laugh about things in life because you know, you'll drive yourself crazy if you don't. And I'm curious what the reception to your videos, like you, you go deep, you talk. And I, I learned so much from your TikToks. Like, you know, you said you were working in the corporate world and then you did a whole video on like your job situation so I feel like it's really educational and and there is a natural curiosity yeah I think I mean I've largely been amazed by the reception like I know that the social media
Starting point is 01:11:19 world can get to a really dark and mean place so the couple videos, I was so nervous to post like I made my best friend being the first one because I'm like, you're going down with me if we get if we get embarrassed. But ever since I get like, pretty much all nice responses. And a lot of them are a lot of them are questions to like, people want to know, like, how do you feel about, you know, like assisted death? it's like very dark questions but i want people to feel comfortable asking them so it's been really nice and i would say like 99 are about als and then like one percent is about my hair always or like hair or you look like blank i i don't know if you guys get these two but like you look like blanks are so offensive
Starting point is 01:12:06 they're so offensive Claudia hates that what who do you get yeah who do you get okay I'll tell you the nice ones first and then I'll end on the whopper because it has been haunting me I get um who's that singer uh Phoebe Bridges I get her okay and then i get ellen pompeo a lot yes i could see um i get a couple lindsey lohans but i think that's just because my hair is reddish yeah but the cruelest one and i can i have the screenshot still because i'm like i can never forget this it said you look like pregnant blake lively because her lips were thinner oh People are not fucking okay, bro. I'm like, not only is it like, so you look like Blake Lively at her worst, plus mine is a really good quality first.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Right, her lips. So yeah, that was a dark one. And I wrote back like, why did you have to say pregnant? And she never responded. Right. I think you actually look like Megan Fahey from. Yes. I've gotten that one like twice.
Starting point is 01:13:04 And I've like, I wish TikTok didn't take away the pinning thing because I would have pinned those like I'll take that all day you do that's a really good call see it's only okay to tell someone who you think their celebrity doppelganger is if their celebrity doppelganger is like insanely beautiful no but like right I feel like someone could think they're paying you a compliment and then you think actually that person is like less beautiful than you. So it could go either way, which is why it's like never really a great thing to do. And my Claudia takes so much umbrage with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:31 But I do think it's a fun exercise usually. Yeah, a little game. Yeah. I've never heard it before with a preemptive pregnant though. Like that has to be a very new game. No, when she's not pregnant, you look nothing like her. Yeah, no, I don't see it. So brutal.
Starting point is 01:13:48 So your life has, like, kind of really changed, obviously because of your diagnosis, but also because of your TikTok. Like, I know you were on the Today Show recently. Yeah. Tell me about that. Oh, my gosh. It was crazy. Like, the social media world is so crazy to me. Because I, I mean, you guys have been doing it for so long.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Like I just started a TikTok last summer and I basically had to YouTube like how to make a TikTok. Like none of it was new to me or none of it was, you know, common to me. And so I just started making videos, hoping for the best. Some of them would get like no views. And then if I posted a dating one, like it would go viral. And so I was like, okay, there's something here. Like, if I can capture people's attention for like 10 seconds, then maybe they'll start being more interested in learning about ALS. Because I don't think many people know what ALS is like, the ice bucket challenge is probably about it. Yeah. And so I just sort of started going for it. And like, you think back to when you have like, you know, 40 followers and the videos I was posting, I'm like, how is I not
Starting point is 01:14:53 a little embarrassed? Like talking into my camera? Like, Hey, guys. So yeah, the Today Show reached out to me on on Instagram, they DM to me like, like hey we want to write an article about you and about your diagnosis um and once that article came out the producer of the actual show was like hey we want to have you on our show um and so I went like two weeks ago I was in the city it was the most blur of a morning I've ever had but it was so cool like that's Savannah she's something else so who do you have around you during this time like what what is your village like yeah so I I work all day what do you do I work at Salesforce so I'm in tech and I'm technically on the clock right now so just
Starting point is 01:15:45 pardon my day it's a long you guys are my clients yeah a hundred percent and we need help with our salesforce and we're hoping that you can give us those tools exactly i'll give you all the tips um so during the day literally yeah no i keep saying their name and i'm like should i just say a big tech company because i don't know It sounds like I'm being paid by them. So it's just me and my dog during the day, mostly. And then my family lives like all within the Maryland area. So my parents are 10 minutes away for half the year. They're actually in Florida, the other half in Jupiter. And then my sister's like 40 minutes away.
Starting point is 01:16:21 My boyfriend's like 30 minutes away. So and I have a bunch of neighbors who have like quickly become my friends because I'll be like, guys, I can't load my wheelchair into my car and they'll have to be my muscle. So, yeah, I feel like in the weirdest way I would set up for the easiest version of having a really bad diagnosis. I had a really good group of friends. I had a really close family. I'm still getting a paycheck. Like everything was kind of set for me to be able to say, okay, let's just focus on the problem at hand. Yeah. And how long have you been with your boyfriend? Um, seven months. Oh, so I started dating. I started dating him post diagnosis. Um, how did you meet? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:05 dating i started dating him post-diagnosis um how did you meet yeah he's a little nuts for doing that but i i met him so he's my sister's husband's best friend so i've known him i know i know i know people are like you need to write a a rom-com about yes you do claudia would read it as long as it's smart extra spicy yeah yeah. No, probably not. Um, but yeah, so we, we met like 15 years ago at my sister's wedding. I think it was probably the first time, but we never lived in the same place. I was always in New York or San Francisco. He was always in Maryland. And so when I moved back, my sister was like, well, I think it's time. and so we just like started texting and then we hung out but then I was diagnosed so I went dark on him for like months and then once I started coming to he like invited me to a wedding which I quickly said no to because I was like I will not show up in with a cane and your
Starting point is 01:17:57 wedding but yeah we started dating shortly after that and it's been good it's weird dating with like this sort of hanging over you. You have to ask some really serious questions early on. Like the kids question had to come up on like date two. I think on date three, I was like, so if my arms ever stopped working, like would you wipe my butt? Like you have to ask really uncomfortable questions. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:18:24 these are all things that we'll probably at some point have to ask our partners right but like not when you are like in your 30s you know not you know a few months and courting and like showing you know right like showing you don't even like fart yeah right right i will fart but can you bite my ass that's exactly the phase we are in at seven months were you like actively seeking out a relationship was dating a priority for you when you met him um so i had gone on the dating apps but that was even more confusing because i'm like do i just write it in my profile like hey i'm terminal but also cute like get at me and so I made so you you are also I made I made a profile and I just like I was getting like a lot of nice responses I just
Starting point is 01:19:16 really didn't know how to handle it so I kind of just avoided like I didn't want to have to tell a stranger on the first date about this stuff like especially on dating apps when you know you're like a swipe away from another option I just was like not confident enough for it and so I kind of had given up on the idea of a relationship period I was like I guess you know that's just not really going to be part of my life I have other things to focus on now I have this purpose and then Brian just came crawling in, you know? I'm obsessed. I know.
Starting point is 01:19:48 He's a cutie. So all in all, like, when you look back on the last few years and the journey you have ahead of you, like, how do you describe it? Like, what is your disposition? Like, I know you feel very compelled to, like, advocate and have more people know about ALS. But, like, on a personal level, like, does the future scare you at all? and have more people know about ALS, but like on a personal level, like does the future scare you at all? So this is sort of a weird thing to try to explain. Cause I, I don't think I could understand
Starting point is 01:20:13 it unless I was given this diagnosis. But for me, like I do not picture a future and that sounds so sad, but it's honestly, I think it's my brain protecting me. Like, I honestly think we all have really protective brains because once I was diagnosed, those two to three months, I was thinking like, okay, so I'm not going to have kids. I'm probably not going to, you know, like be this corporate baddie that I thought I was going to be like all of that just kind of, I was grieving it. But once I kind of got past that, I was like, now, if anyone asked me like, oh, what are your plans, you know, for when you progress further? I'm like, couldn't tell you. Like, I don't, my brain just doesn't want to go there.
Starting point is 01:20:56 And so I don't really think about the future. And I actually think it's made me a lot happier. Like it's, it's almost a relief in a sense because you're like, I don't have to worry about everything I was worrying about before. It's really just about like making sure I'm happy, making sure I feel good. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:21:17 Claudia, if you don't break out and to live like we were dying at one point. I feel like you were dying. No, by the way, I feel like that's actually a really healthy way of looking at things like that's definitely a defense mechanism for like your psyche to to protect you but i think that actually sounds really healthy and and and gives you the ability to wake up every day positive and be happy yeah and and just take and i think that's what everyone does on some level like you're just trying to make it through one day at a time. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Like, we all never know how things are going to work out for us. But if we can make it through today, we'll be okay. Exactly. Well, we know you're a big pop culture girlie. And you wanted to come on the toast, so we're going to toast. We're going to give you the toast treatment. We're going to give you the toast treatment. I actually, I really wanted to learn as fast as you did the ending,
Starting point is 01:22:06 but I couldn't do it. It's, like skill no the thing is but you could you could practice and like you could do your own ending like when Claudia doesn't do it and I do it like I kind of ad lib so when we close it's all you oh god but do but do your own thing with it yeah okay okay maybe we'll get something that becomes part of the new ending. Something fresh. We love fresh. Okay, pop culture-wise. So, a lot going on in the universe right now. Kardashians, like, kind of going through this unique period. What is your take on the current state?
Starting point is 01:22:38 Give us, like, a state of the union on the Kardashians right now. They could give us so much exposure in the ALS world. They're so famous. Yeah. And I think my next TikTok series is going to be like pitching celebrities on why they should donate to ALS. And I feel like Kylie would be a really easy one to do because like I already have the lip kits.
Starting point is 01:22:57 I could just like talk like her, talk, you know, sell her a little bit. So I think that's going to be my next series. Is that, you know, like an issue in the ALS community like searching for a cure is it a lack of funds it it's very underfunded and it's crazy because like the ice bucket challenge raised 150 million dollars that helped fund like one medication and so it's it's not a matter of like, them, you know, not knowing. There's, there's a lot that needs to be done. Like, we don't understand why people get it. We don't understand why people progress faster with it than others. And so I think research,
Starting point is 01:23:40 money towards research is really what my focus has been in terms of funding. That's where I donate a lot of my money. And so, yeah, I, I feel like the concept of it being underfunded like needs to be more friend center. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize that. I didn't realize that either.
Starting point is 01:23:56 What other kinds of funding is there for ALS aside from like research? Like, is there for medication? There's like buckets. Yeah. There's like, I would say there's like the cure bucket and that's like research and medications and then there's like the care side of things where patients you know need like wheelchairs they need adaptations they need um like feeding tube surgery like basically with ALS all of your muscles stop working so like one by one you you become fully paralyzed. And
Starting point is 01:24:26 that includes like, your lungs can stop like your swallowing can stop your speech is gone. So like, everything is basically machine relying on machines at a certain point. And so the care bucket is really like making sure that patients have what they need. Yeah. Because I think like a lot of people, I mean, with any disability, like you're more likely to go into serious poverty. So that's the other bucket. And like, like I said, I feel really lucky that I'm still working. So I have the money to take care of that part for myself. So I focus on giving more money to research, but people have their preferences. Yeah, no, it gets expensive.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Yeah. Our, you know, whole life in the last few months has revolved around Tom Sandoval and his insane mustache and just horrible personality. What is your take? Like, obviously your team, Ariana, but you have any thoughts on the situation? Any hot takes you want to share with the class?
Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah, a hot take perhaps? I just can't get over, he keeps popping up on my tiktok like his band yeah keeps popping up on my tiktok the accent work he was doing like he thinks that's a skill like he was home practicing accents in the mirror before these shows no he really thinks he's like Elton John like that's the type of delusional person we're working with here yes like he thinks he's like Elton John. Like that's the type of delusional person we're working with here. Yes. Like he thinks he's going to be like a one-namer in the future, you know? Tom. Madonna.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Exactly. It's brutal. Like every time I'm like so ready to swipe away and then I'm like, is he singing, you know that 99 Red Balloons song? Yeah. Yeah. Like full Scottish accent as he's doing it. It's so, it's so painful to watch.
Starting point is 01:26:06 So weird. I can't imagine like being in the front row as his girlfriend being like, that's not me. No, that's such a good point. Like imagine I could honestly could never be me. I, yeah,
Starting point is 01:26:18 I guess you just get kind of like lovesick, you know, where you just feel like blindly supportive, but man, brutal. What about succession succession are you watching succession it's like the worst show thank you thank you of all time I have watched everything except us yeah no you can I'm terminal people can't come for me they that show is like it has had the same plot of every episode for like every single season. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:50 And you think the finale, like they'd be going out with a bang. Honestly, like the episode where Logan died was like a nice change. But then they went right, they went right back to it in the following episode and it's like kendall yeah kendall's like back to being a little nutty yeah yeah the whole thing is just so painful to watch i can't i can't believe and you don't like tom and greg that's the only like thing that can kind of get me through it that's what a lot of people say but i see right through them i i like tom greg doesn't so much do it for me. I also feel like Greg,
Starting point is 01:27:28 like there were a bunch of blinds about him like being super creepy in clubs and that kind of like ruined the Greg character. By the way, I completely agree. I thought he was like so beloved. He was and then like, you know, like ability is a prison and there was all these blinds.
Starting point is 01:27:43 None of it is confirmed but like he's like being accused of being like really fucking weird oh I just like taking home a lot of girls and like talking about how he's on the show who knows if it's true like I mean he's like a tall cute guy I don't I feel like he doesn't need it but yeah yeah it just kind of ruins his character for me but Tom still has me he's the only one I like enjoyable at times but also he gets on the hamster wheel of like not stopping talking about nothing he's tolerable sometimes so what other things were on your list I actually I got shiv I got shiv too you have a different hair with
Starting point is 01:28:18 different hair I don't see it you're missing it I I don't see it either I don't see a lot of them though I feel like it's hard to see it's hard but it is hard to see on yourself yes like so many people will tell me I look like someone I'm like I really don't see it but I guess if everybody says it there's something there's something Shiv is a really weird character too like I feel like every time they focus on her she's making crazy eyes and they're playing scary music and I'm like is this supposed to be deeper than I'm thinking it is I don't understand I'm just I'm not into the show I'm really glad it's ending me too um okay can you walk me through some of the other things on your list like when when you had to sit down and be like these are the things I would love to do what is like the what name a few of them and then what's
Starting point is 01:28:57 like the thing that you your number one number one I think they're pretty equally weighted honestly but one of them would have um a lunch with like Amy Poehler Tina Fey like that group of girls because I feel like if you have a lunch with them like they'll get to know you and they'll like you and then you'll be friends forever it's like always what I think yeah it's like the multiple wishes situation so that's right it's just the start of your friendship I like I also was like they can bring whoever they want to like if they want to bring like Steve Carell or Kristen Wiig like I am down yeah um so that was one the other is like having a sleepover with Taylor Swift so she can tell me secrets I honestly think like I could be a really good vessel for celebrity secrets because like for all they know, I could die tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:29:49 And so it's like, I want to know like what happened in that Beyonce elevator. Like I should be the one to know. No, and you deserve to know. I deserve it. I've earned this. Are you a really big Swifty? I am. I am.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Although I'm not going to the concert because, well, one, I, like, didn't want to go through the hellscape of ticketing. But two, like, in a wheelchair, I don't really know how that works. I imagine they have, like, sections. They do. I have actually heard the concert. I feel bad. Like, the people in front of me would feel bad standing.
Starting point is 01:30:22 No, by the way. I wouldn't want them to feel. No, you're totally fine. I've actually heard Taylor's concert is very ADA friendly. And most stadiums are, like there are sections and you're at the front of the section. Like you're perched, that you actually have some of the best seats in the joint.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Okay, so I should have added that to my make a wish. I mean, although people are, like when I did that make a wish, I thought it was gonna be a fun activity where everyone would write their make a wishes. Yeah. And instead, like people started tagging like Taylor Nation, Taylor Nation, Claudia. I was like, oh, God, this is like taking a turn for like actual make a wish. Like I was thinking it would be I was thinking you'd be like a little fun activity where I see like what people want to do.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Have other people reached out like our other wish is going to come true. do have other people reach out like our other wish is gonna come true um so the one of them was hang out with the penguin which like some of these I just put in like as to be like funny like one of them I wrote to have the friends cast call me their friend and people tagged Courtney Cox I'm like no you know what Courtney Cox is always thirsting out on TikTok I'm telling you she's gonna respond to perhaps. Perhaps. Yeah, the penguin one. A lot of people have been contacting zoos on my behalf. And I'm like, I probably could have done this one myself. And I just didn't put in the effort. Well, I just think you're fabulous. I think you're just a gorgeous girly with such a great
Starting point is 01:31:39 energy and such a beautiful smile. And I have loved chatting with you and the fact that the toast in any tiny way has been a part of your journey makes me so happy and I just can't thank you enough for coming and chatting with us thank you so much I've loved being here a pleasure we loved having you you guys make sure to follow tick a girl your fucking tiktok username what the fuck is that oh my god we have to talk about it so So I want to plug it and I can't even say it. Yeah. I didn't. Like I said, when I started TikTok, I had like 10 followers and I was talking to myself most of the time.
Starting point is 01:32:14 So I started my symptoms started with a limp. And so, you know, the band Limp Bizkit. Of course. I get the reference. I threw my name in the middle of it. So it's Limp Bruise Kit. But come to find out that Limp Bizkit is like a very filthy sex act. Did you know this?
Starting point is 01:32:31 I'll be right back. Hold on. Let me just get on Urban Dictionary. Only like the men, only a certain percentage of men in my life have come forward to be like, you might want to think about changing it. Well, if I'm using, you know. It's not a common one I write. I mean, Limp Bizkit, the band, is so much more common. Oh, my God. Do you want to read it out loud?
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yeah. Limp Bizkit, according to Urban Dictionary. Oh, wait. Oh, my God. I'm literally getting a virus. Okay. Several guys stand in a circle around a biscuit. They all begin to jerk off, ejaculating onto the biscuit.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I'm not reading the last sentence. I'm not reading it. Oh, there's, wait, there's more. The last person to finish ejaculating has to eat the biscuit. I based my disability awareness campaign off of that. Listen, it is not too late to change your username. I know. Well, now TikTok just shows like Brooke Evie.
Starting point is 01:33:30 So I feel like it's fine. It's kind of hidden. But yeah, I really committed. I tied a, what's the phrase? Like I tied my horse to the wrong place. Or whatever. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Something like that. I get what you're saying well yeah it was tough if you're looking for Brooke's TikTok just search Brooke Eby B-R-O-O-K-E space E-B-Y right yeah that's perfect such a pleasure thank you so much for joining us toasters follow Brooke send her love tell her beautiful celebrities she looks like and keep doing the fabulous work that you're doing it was such an honor to get to talk to you seriously thank you for coming on oh my gosh thank you so much for having me this is so surreal this is okay okay okay thank you so much for listening to the toast this do you still do millennial morning show the
Starting point is 01:34:19 millennial morning show uh we go live feel free to subscribe we go live and then it's like stitcher streamcast you nailed it something about wickedly talented oh that that is my favorite pop culture moment in history is wickedly talented i say it all the time i said it in one of my tiktoks and people started commenting like i knew you were a toaster. And I was like, oh my God. There's something about like the W, like the windup. Wickedly talented. It's like he added an H after the W. It's like wickedly talented. Yes, it's like a whistle.
Starting point is 01:34:55 There's something so strange about that whole thing. Like that's another secret I want to get in. Yeah, by the way, because there was something going on that day. Yeah. I mean, there's something going on with John Travolta, period. All the time. I need to know in. Yeah. By the way, because there was something going on that day. Yeah. I mean, there's something going on with John Travolta, period. All the time. I need to know.
Starting point is 01:35:08 It all. Add it to the list. Add it to the list of secrets. That is so funny. Well, you guys, make sure to follow Brooke. Thank you so much for joining us and you guys,
Starting point is 01:35:16 we'll see you on tomorrow's episode. Bye. Love you. Bye. Bye.

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