The Toast - Thankful Self Aware Cogs: Tuesday, November 26th, 2024
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Good morning, millennials!
Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday that feels like a Friday, because we're fucking
celebrating, bitch.
That's right, it's the last toast of the weekend.
While you might be crying, I am singing, because my work week is over, yours probably isn't,
and I'm really sorry, but mine is.
Even though I have so much work to do tomorrow,
I actually like I'm working a full day tomorrow.
Right, really sorry that we had the foresight.
Couple of geniuses here.
We had the foresight to take off the Wednesday
before Thanksgiving and I just wanna say thank you
to us, to Jackson Claude of Yore who made that decision.
But the good news is I know you're probably like,
what the fuck?
Like I wasn't ready.
The good news is there's so much good news.
First of all,
Claudia and I recorded a Patreon episode yesterday
that's going up tomorrow morning.
So if you need your daily dose of toast,
head to patreon.com slash a toast.
It's a really fun episode.
Cause unlike other toasts,
it's the fast five stories that you need
for the Thanksgiving dinner table.
A couple of ice breakers, non-divisive things
to talk about with your family and friends.
It's a annual episode Jack and I record every year.
Just trying to leave you guys for the holiday season
with good non-hot topics to talk about,
literally moronic things going on in the country
that you can bring up with family you hate,
family you disagree with, family you feel awkward around.
The episode was so funny.
Then we also go into, of course,
like what are we thankful for this season?
It was a very beautiful way to tie up.
So if you're looking for an episode tomorrow,
you still have to work.
It'll be released at 9 a.m.
It's already been recorded.
And then Thursday's Thanksgiving.
I know some people do have to go back to work on Friday.
So we also have an episode coming out Friday.
Me and Ben's off for Celebrity. We are podcasting an episode coming out Friday. Me and Ben saw for celebrity.
We are podcasting together.
We haven't heard from him since the big news.
And I know-
And we haven't heard from the two of you together.
I'm sure he talks about it on Good Guys.
I heard he said like some nice stuff.
Yeah, he did, he did, he did.
But the two of you together
need to share how you're feeling as a couple.
So I'm really excited for you guys to get in the booth.
Of course, and I think that like
when a lot of people heard I'm pregnant,
they said like,
what does this mean for BSC?
So we're gonna hear what does it mean.
For BSC.
So we've got you covered this week
while we're taking some time.
That's why we're extra celebrating
and like rubbing it in your face.
Because we prepared.
We don't even feel so bad
because like we've got you covered
and now like we get to be off
and enjoy the best time of year.
It is monsooning.
Literally, I woke up, I'm like,
oh, it must be four in the morning.
It was 7.30.
It is seriously so dark outside.
And of course, I have to spend the afternoon
out and about traversing, looking for studio spaces,
because yeah, the studio that I had found for last,
last time I updated you guys about my new great studio,
that's half the price.
Well, I found out why it was half the price.
Like it was the craziest lease ever.
And I can't, I look seriously,
if I put that lease in our company name,
we would be ruined financially.
Like it was seriously setting us up for bankruptcy.
With what it entailed, you'd be better off
like buying office space.
That would have been a better use of your money.
Or paying triple in rent.
Like it was seriously, so today, you know, me and Ben's sister,
she's been so steadfast in this process, but you know,
she found an office building with Studio Space that literally could,
it might as well be in my apartment building. Like it's so close. So we know what,
I'm holding out on maybe it's meant to be, but just know,
I was like bragging a couple of weeks ago. I ain't moving for a while.
And I know like a part of you is happy.
Why?
Because you love being like staying where you are.
And like, I feel like you didn't,
you weren't looking forward to moving.
I actually was for a multitude of reasons.
One, there's so much construction going on in this building.
Like it's really hindered my ability to record premium audio.
And two, at one point in my life,
like maybe last year when I was like really
at my peak active lifestyle,
I found the walk to be really just the perfect,
the perfect amount of blocks.
These days, it's about three blocks too long.
Ben drove me to work today.
Like my first trimester, Ben drove me to work
like for an entire month.
Oh, and fun fact about Ben and driving,
our car, we've noticed literally a couple of days ago
has three flat tires.
Jackie, it seriously will not stop Ben's hopper.
He's been driving all morning.
Like he had to run up town to do some errands.
Like he drove all day yesterday, all day today.
He literally, and the car is being serviced.
It picked up tomorrow, but like you would never know.
We had three flat tires based on how frequently
Ben's been using the car.
And he dropped me off
today
And it's like deflated
Oh my god, I was so hard and Ben drives so aggressively too soon. He's like this big aggressive driver, but it can't go anywhere
Wait, how did that happen?
Did it all happen at once?
No, so like-
Like did someone slash your tires?
No, so like on the dash,
it always tells you when your tire pressure is low
and like one by one, they started to light up
and we just like ignored it
and we were like, okay, air pressure,
but no, no, like it's literally flat.
Like-
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh, Jackie, it's the funniest thing.
Like-
That is so crazy.
Like if that ever happens, like where I have a flat tire,
like just get rid of the car.
Like I'm not dealing with that.
And speaking of Ben, he would just absolutely kill me
if it didn't let everyone know that the Spritz Society
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You know, up until now it was Craig 20.
Sorry, Craig, move over.
It's toast30.
It's the best time of year to try Spritz Society.
We just launched new cans.
So they're bigger now.
They're 12 ounces.
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And actually, let me give a little spoiler.
You know what's happening today.
I don't know if you know this.
They went on production on like a new,
Ben's gonna kill me, I don't even know if I'm allowed to say.
Oh, I know, okay.
On a new collab.
I didn't know it was today.
So remember we did like the pickle flavor
with Clawson Pickles.
We're doing a flavor, I don't know when it's coming out,
with like probably one of the biggest brands in the world.
And like, let me tell you, who is this product for?
On the count of three.
Olivia. Yes. The collab we're doing is literally for our sister Olivia. You guys are going to die. Let me tell you, who is this product for? On the count of three, yes. Olivia?
The collab we're doing is literally for our sister Olivia.
You guys are going to die.
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It's a great holiday gift.
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Sorry, as long as we're talking about Ben, you know.
Thank you, turtssociety.com.
We should start the Turts Society.
A competitor to spritz.
To spritz, yeah, I will be a founding member.
That's the only society I wanna be a part of
is the Turts Society.
Yeah, and the Torture Dead Poets, of course.
The Torture Dead Poets.
What do we do at Tert Society?
We get lit.
You have to join to find out.
You have to join to find out, yeah.
It's kind of like a members only thing.
For sure. For damn sure.
We have a great show.
It's Tuesday, which this-
There's a lot to do, even though like we're about to like
head off into the sunset, like not without doing
so much work right now. Yeah, so it's Tuesday and in this season of our lives,
Tuesday means Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment.
So that will be at the end of the show.
We've got meaty stories.
I feel like there's a lot going on in the world.
There is, I actually have like eight stories up on my iPad.
And when you do the ads, I'm gonna whittle it down to five,
but I might sneak a few extras in there.
So today is a Tuesday.
I just wanna make sure you don't cut,
I know you chose that the interviewer
from Defying Gravity Holding Space,
she did a follow-up interview
about how her life has changed.
Don't cut that.
Yes, okay, I won't cut it.
But today is a Tuesday.
That feels like a Friday.
But also a Wednesday because we're doing Dear Toaster.
It's so confusing to be us.
But for you guys, it might feel like a Thursday
because you're working tomorrow.
I know it's so much better
because it could feel like a Tuesday, which it is, you know?
Yeah. Oh, so this week is just like, it's just such a great week on the cow.
I want to thank everyone who, like, planned it up high at federal holidays.
Dot com. I want to ask you if you would like to respond to some of the criticism
you received from yesterday's episode, the comments were ablaze.
Sure. What's the charge?
So Jackie and I were discussing Ariana Grande
and Jackie had said-
About how she's always wanted to be in Wicked
but she wanted to be Alphaba.
And everyone's saying,
do you want to be Glenda?
Do you want to be Glenda?
There's a tweet from 2011.
Okay, I'm sure there's a tweet from 2011
but she literally said on the Zach Sang show
during the Seven Rings era that her dream is wicked,
always been wicked, she would do anything for wicked
and it's Alphaba like that.
But she would do either, but like she leads with Alphaba.
That's also like why she did the Wizard and I
when she did the anniversary.
There's also all these videos of her singing wicked
throughout her life.
And she typically goes for the Wizard and I
and Defying Gravity.
Now she also did that popular song collab with Mika.
She has really-
I'm all about popular.
Like, and also she met Kristin Chen with
when she was on Broadway.
Like she's had an affinity for both,
but she said on the Zach Sang Show,
Elphaba would be her first choice.
And that's what I was quoting.
So-
And by the way, I think what people were referring to
is during this press junket,
I think on like Jimmy Fallon,
she had said that they wanted her to audition for both
and she was happy to do both,
but she really preferred Glinda,
but they knew because of her voice
and her wizard and eye cover
that they had wanted her just to sing for Alphaba,
but she was hoping that it was gonna be Glinda.
So I think everybody's right.
Yeah, I think everybody's right.
She said both, I think she truly would have been happy
with either and is happy with either.
And so we're all right.
Then also, I guess, Fiyero becomes the Tin Man.
Nope, Fiyero becomes the Scarecrow
and Bach becomes the Tin Man.
That makes no difference to you.
I'll figure it out in part two.
You know, like I was just saying,
like these characters become those characters.
I don't really care who's who.
So there's the other, Curection.
I didn't think that required a Curection, obviously.
But that's also what they were in a tizzy about.
No, Wicked is really, it's starting a lot of conversations.
Yeah, good conversations.
Everyone's having a lot of fun and you love tizzies.
I think a lot of people are trying to identify
within themselves, whom they are.
Oh yeah, we had a big conversation with Sachi yesterday.
Do you think Margo's still mad at us?
Probably, Olivia hasn't seen the movie so.
I don't wanna spoil it.
And of course she's seen the show,
but if you asked me like five days ago,
are you with Glinda or Elphaba?
I'd say like stop asking me stupid questions.
Like you have to like see the movie
to care about this question right now.
So we were talking with Sachi about who she is
and feelings were hurt, she left the chat.
She left the chat cause we said that she was Nessa Rose.
Because she was saying, am I an alpha burg Linda,
an alpha burg Linda, and honestly,
we didn't feel like she really fit the criteria
for either one of them, so we looked to other characters
and we said, okay, you're Nessa Rose.
And she actually got so offended, she left the chat.
Yeah, at first, when I was talking to her privately,
I said that she was the wizard,
like this big ominous figure
that like you can't really get a hold of.
She didn't like that either.
I don't know what she wanted to hear.
Like if I'm Elphaba, you're Glinda.
By the way, she only wants to hear that she's Elphaba.
Who the fuck else is there?
Like we're not gonna have two Elphabas in this situation.
I actually think there is no snitchy representation
in Wicked and that's okay.
That is okay.
And I was also saying, it depends on the context.
Like if she's playing the game with like Emily,
yeah, she could be the Alphaba and Emily's the Linda.
But we were talking about the context of our family.
In the context of me being Alphaba and you being Linda,
then yeah, she's the little sister
who wants nothing to do with her big green sis.
Nessa!
Nessa.
By the way, this conversation, she's Jackie.
We're digging ourself into like a deeper grave.
She's gonna be mad at us for saying it.
She's like, I actually think she's not speaking to us.
I think so too.
So, Wicked is starting drama.
Yeah, inter-family drama.
And seriously, who did she want us to say?
Miss Marble?
Marble.
Who said she's bow and yang?
She is. By the way, she is.
That's the thing about Satie, she's so dynamic,
she could really be any of them, except for Alpha Bow.
It depends who she's talking to.
Correct.
She could be any of them, except for Alpha Bow.
Listen, I'm having a lot of fun with you,
but we have business to attend to.
I feel like we have mini stories and dear toasters,
and I wanna be able to give it 100%.
And I'm at this place, I saw somebody like,
oh my God, not me having a stroke.
I saw somebody like making fun of me.
Claudia is so dramatic, she can't go one hour without eating
because in the middle of the podcast yesterday
I literally almost fainted so I had a bite of my yogurt.
I always keep a provision on my table,
I have a fiber one bar today.
And am I like unique in my pregnancy?
Like if a period of time goes by without eating
like an hour, like I feel sick.
No, also I saw someone, you know,
ate up that commenter by saying,
you've obviously never been pregnant.
So they took care of themselves.
Also like baby's hungry.
So sure, maybe you could wait another 20 minutes,
but baby is hungry.
Let me deprive my child to make you comfortable.
I don't think so.
Right, and it's like, I was probably talking,
you probably put your mic away.
So it's really just like, it's bothering you that she ate,
not that you heard it or that you saw it,
just like you don't like the fact that she had to eat
during the podcast, you feel disrespected.
Get over it.
No, and here's a little tip to anybody
who is looking to start a podcast
while also snacking on something.
Yogurt is the perfect thing.
You really don't hear it.
I have a fiber one bar today.
It's chewy, it's crunchy, it's not gonna be good.
So I'll do my best to keep it at bay.
But a yogurt, it's kind of party
with nothing in it, no crunchies.
Some people put granola and shit, no.
You don't chew, you just swallow.
As long as I'm speaking and you move the microphone,
do what you need to do.
Thanks, Jax. you move the microphone, do what you need to do. Thanks, Jax.
Just move the microphone.
So now without further ado,
here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know.
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By the way, we're doing a Secret Santa.
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What can I say?
Except you're welcome.
And that's an ad for Moana too.
Yeah, it is.
Oh my God, I watched Shepardy last night.
They're really kind of out of control.
Almost every-
Sellouts.
Yeah, they had a sponsored Moana.
What the fuck were the questions?
They were actually good.
It was about like the geography of like the Polynesian
islands.
So they were actually very intellectual questions.
It wasn't about, actually there was one question
where you had to identify and it was Maui.
Like that was really stupid. The others were about, actually there was one question where you had to identify and it was Maui. That was really stupid.
The others were like, which tribe, which native land?
If you're smart, you would know it.
And do you know who won the episode last night?
A newcomer, do you know what he does for a living?
He's a podcaster?
He's a priest.
And he was wearing a priest neck thing.
I just thought it was crazy.
And there were a couple of categories.
Kind of like how we're wearing today. And there were a couple of categories. Kind of like how we're wearing today.
And there were a couple of categories
that were like a little risque,
that he got every single answer right in the cocktail one.
That's a little sus, don't you find?
Yeah, but he was really smart,
so we'll be seeing him again tonight.
Interesting, and we're wearing these outfits
in solidarity with him.
Amen.
That's a little sus, you don't want your priest
to know all the risque answers,
but OK.
Yeah, but I guess when you can't get married,
you can't date or have sex, you just study.
Return to trivia.
You study.
You study the Bible.
You study everything.
Yeah.
And I guess are priests allowed to drink?
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know.
Wine.
Yeah, I don't.
Wine, of course.
And you know that movie, Raising Helen,
like really threw me through a loop
because she ends up like falling in love
and dating a pastor.
And pastors can have families and get married.
Yeah, and they do have families, Seventh Heaven.
Correct.
Yeah, it's true.
And that movie did a lot for me. Anyways, our first story, some Bravo news.
Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz's namesake bar,
Schwartz and Sandys, is closing after just two years.
Schwartz and Sandys is closing
after opening to the public in November, 2022.
The Toms announced the news via Instagram on Monday
with personal statements on the situation.
Like, this was, if this was me, this is information
you would have had to waterboard out of me.
Like the fact that they freely put out a statement,
like admitting after everything,
I would have just quietly shut it down.
Yeah, everybody would have like talked about it,
but I don't know when the hell
Vanderpump Rules is coming back.
Like I, to admit, I don't know who,
there are so many people who feel vindicated.
Obviously Katie Maloney, right?
Everyone who hates Tom Sandoval, Ariana of course.
But then it's like, this affects so many people.
What about that money that Tom Sandoval
took from his retired mother?
You couldn't have tortured this information out of me.
Right, but they also in their statements,
towards the end of their statements,
they kind of had a plea like, have your party here.
You know, like we're closing,
have a this year holiday party, lizard funeral, whatever.
Like maybe they need a little bit more business
just to like pay off the creditors.
You know what it sounds like?
There is a commercial, like since I'm a child
of like lumber liquidators going out of business sale,
but they've been going out of business since I'm six,
like, but I think they do very well
because everybody thinks it's like the last opportunity
to get lumber and to liquidate.
So maybe that's what they're doing.
They're like permanently in a state of going out of business
to generate sales.
Yeah, and like everyone thinks they're getting a discount.
Now I just wanna say I've never been a short,
a fan of shorts and Sandys.
I didn't like the name.
I thought they were wrong for it.
Too big of a space.
All the issues that everyone had with it, I'm so there.
And they totally mismanaged the situation.
And when you have your name on a building,
you've got to act right in your personal life.
And Sandoval completely fucking fumbled the ball.
However, this news actually did not bring me joy.
No, me neither.
It's not, it only brought me joy
because I love to see Tom Sandoval fail.
That actually makes me extremely happy.
But their business partner, who was just a restaurateur who put a lot of money into this, Tom Sandoval fail. That actually makes me extremely happy. But their business partner, who was just a restaurateur
who put a lot of money into this,
Tom Sandoval's triplet brothers all put money,
all the people, I could cry just thinking about
all the regular folk who thought this was a good investment
putting their money in the hands of two idiots.
That makes me sad, I completely agree.
And it's just, at the end of the day,
it's a small business that failed.
There's a lot of people that work there.
It's just, you don't wanna see it go out of business.
Now I know he did the crime and he's gonna do the time
and this is all the consequences of his actions, period.
But it affects a lot of other people and it's just like,
I don't love to see it.
Even when people were taking out their anger about Scandival
and going to the restaurant and picketing.
And vandalizing the bathroom.
And like, keep your ire online where it started.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you think that this bar failing
is a direct result of Scandival?
Or it was always gonna fail,
even if the show had continued
and you know, he didn't have an affair with Raquel.
Like it was a poorly managed business.
I think it wouldn't have had like so much longevity
for the aforementioned reasons,
but I think it failed this quickly because of Scannable.
I don't think they could recover.
They opened after months of investment
and months of waiting and building to really,
maybe they had a few good months before
it was completely boycotted.
Like now people, it's not just the interest
of Vanderpump Rules has waned.
Like now people are taking a stand
and they don't wanna go there.
And I think that it is happening now
because of Scandival and they just couldn't,
they had no business.
Yeah, no, I agree.
I don't think it was ever gonna be
a gangbusters type of facility,
but this is very quick.
I think for as long as the show went on,
the business could have gone on.
There are so many other bars
that are affiliated with this world,
but like people are taking a moral stand
by like not going to this business to punish him.
And I think that's all a result of Scandival.
And I don't know if you saw this
because it happened this morning,
a little adjacent Vanderpump Rules News.
Yes, I did.
That's part B of this story.
Kristen Doty is pregnant.
I'm really happy for her.
Me as well.
She shared that her and Luke, they're engaged now,
but they conceived via IUI.
She shared on season one of the Valley
how she was trying to get pregnant
and then they had pregnancy loss.
And then early this year, like they were back trying
and they got pregnant on the first try of IUI.
That's so great.
I'm really happy for her.
Yeah, me too. And should all be unfolding on first try of IUI. That's so great. I'm really happy for her. Yeah, me too.
And should all be unfolding on season two of The Valley.
Yeah, and it feels like The Valley's really progressing.
There's a lot going on with the cast
and like I hear a lot about like production updates.
And I can't say the same for Vanderpump Rules.
Like it seems like everything's at a standstill.
So I heard about Vanderpump Rules.
I think I saw this on Dumois
and it seemed like a really good theory
that the reason why Vanderpump Rules. I think I saw this on Dumois, and it seemed like a really good theory that the reason why Vanderpump Rules is going to end
after this season is because the show is too expensive now.
The cast members get paid too much.
Like a million dollars a season.
There's so many of them.
But that's what they deserve
after being on 12 seasons of reality TV.
And so they're paying like millions in cast salaries,
and it's just, that's not.
That's a good theory. A good financial decision.
So even though everybody wants to do it
and everybody is doing this next season,
she said everybody is doing this next season.
So that like includes Ariana and Tom.
It's just too expensive of a show.
And when you think like how these reality shows start out,
it's people making $20,000 a season.
Yep, not even.
Like the budgets for the show are low.
The overhead is low.
They take road trips.
It gets just too big.
And that's what we're seeing.
That's a very good theory.
And I could see that even if it was like a successful show
at Bravo, I think it gets really hard
with reality shows just in general being less popular
like cable network reality shows.
So you really can't like a new show.
That's why like Rony,
I think that probably had a lot to do with why Rony Legacy.
They were all OGs.
They were all getting paid at least a million dollars
a season.
And now you're paying Rebecca Minkoff $10,000.
Like you start fresh.
No, when you start over, you get to start fresh.
It actually makes a lot of sense as to why shows would start
over even before they need to.
Yeah. And even a successful franchise,
successful is different than what it used to mean. And I know? And even a successful franchise, successful is different than what it used to mean.
And I don't think even a successful franchise
can make money or be successful
when you have that much in cast salaries.
That's a very good point.
Yeah, so even though some of them
might now go over to the Valley,
like they might have to take a pay cut,
but I actually think now in thinking about it this way,
it's worth, say you don't make a lot of money
from your season of the show,
the opportunities that it brings you
and the potential for earning,
I think is worth doing the show.
A thousand percent.
Other reality shows, Instagram, followers,
appearances, a thousand percent.
I think things got a little out of control
and people are making like them.
But that's also what happens when you bring in
the Denise Richards is,
and they're making two million dollars
just to come on the show.
And then the people who build the show are like,
well, we want more then.
Right. And I feel like a good example
of someone that's doing it well is like Southern Charm.
Because if you actually think it's such a big cast,
but who is an OG now?
Like Shep, Craig.
Shep and Craig are the only OGs.
Yeah. All's been around a while.
They're the only ones probably making
around a million dollars a season.
Like, you know, I think at that level,
you're getting paid like 30 to $50,000 an episode
and you do like 15, 20 episodes.
So it's actually good how they've sort of shed
over the years, original cast mates,
because if there was 10 of them, you can't afford that.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's the latest in the Vanderpump world.
Lots going on.
Yeah.
Our next story,
the holding space for defying gravity viral journalist
is talking about getting recognized in public selling merch
and what on earth she meant.
So Variety sat down with the journalist
whose name is Tracy E. Gilchrist.
But Tracy-
She's such a Tracy. She's such a Tracy.
She's such a Tracy and she's being asked all the questions
about what she meant, you know,
how the reaction is affecting her,
what she thinks about it.
So she's talking about the day at the junket,
which was actually like weeks ago.
She said this didn't go viral to like a few weeks
after the interview and like her phone started blowing up
and she's just sort of like riding this wave.
She was also asked how she would define holding space,
which I think is a good question.
And actually she gave us good of an answers
you could possibly get.
Show me to me, please.
She said, I was very inspired by Tony Morrison from glad.
He posted the lyrics of defying gravity
before I did my interview.
It was a great explainer.
Holding space is being physically, emotionally and mentally present with someone or something.
For me, it means being in the moment, not being distracted, and feeling something on a cellular level.
I think you can hold space with lyrics of a song, one you've heard a hundred times,
and it can suddenly take on a new meaning when you are a queer person.
Okay, so it's giving like paying attention.
Yeah, it's just, it's giving resonating.
Yeah, and like seeing something perhaps for the first time.
Through a new lens, the lyrics of Defying Gravity
are really resonating with people is really,
I think what she meant.
Now I thought the most-
And then Cynthia is saying, good, that's what I wanted.
Well, so the most interesting part of this interview
was when she's asked like very specifically
why she said that question,
she said that actually was not my question.
It was a lead up to the question.
I was gonna say, you know,
a lot of people are holding space for lyrics
and finding power in that.
What do you think that means?
But she said, Cynthia had such a reaction
to that lead up portion that she just sort of wrote it.
She was really unexpected.
That was really unexpected.
And when she said, I mean, I'm in queer media.
She was like, I literally didn't know what to say
because she's having this like emotion,
Cynthia is having this like emotional moment.
And you don't want to follow it up with a question
because let her have her moment.
So you just offer like supplemental information
and I'm in queer media.
She also said, she said like in the interview
that she was seeing that on social media,
people holding space, but she said,
actually most of it came from a conversation
with her friend.
She was using that to tee up the question.
She was thrown off by Cynthia's response
and she could have said, I have all these friends
and this is our conversation,
but instead she said, I'm in queer media.
And honestly, like I think what I thought this journalist
would have been like in real life,
it seems to me that she's not.
She just seemed like she's somebody
who takes herself so seriously.
I'm like, okay, it's wicked.
And reading this interview, I was like, oh my God,
she's literally just a girlie.
It was kind of this accident.
Oh, I feel like she is,
that five seconds that we got of her,
now we're getting an extrapolated version
and it's the same, but the good news is,
it's like she has a sense of humor about it
and like she thinks it's awesome.
She also, they were asking like, what's next?
You gonna sell merch?
Like, you know, they're comparing it to like the area
to mirror very mindful.
They said they have some viral moment like that since then.
So she said that she's a little slower than the internet.
Friends of hers were telling her
to get a merch store up and running.
She said she's already seen t-shirts and ball caps.
She said she has not considered the full breadth
of what this might be.
I had a podcast with the Advocate several years ago,
so who knows, maybe a little podcast.
I'm hoping.
I love her.
Jackie, I feel for anyone who works in media,
to get this kind of recognition,
you can't even dream of attention like this.
But also she's really become a gay icon,
which I feel like for a gay woman
is probably the best thing that could happen to you.
Everybody's wearing t-shirts with her face on it,
everybody's quoting her.
I'm actually so happy for this lady
and the more I hear from her in this interview,
she sounds like, to me I'm getting,
the person who I saw in that interview,
I was like, she kinda seems insufferable,
but now hearing from her, it seems like it was like
this total accident.
She wasn't actually asking that as a question.
I was like, oh, she's more normal
than I thought she was gonna be.
And I'm so happy for somebody I've never met.
And speaking of Jamira, do you know that
Merriam-Webster word of the year?
Yes, that was the story that got booted.
Well, you know what?
I'm glad we can talk about it now
because I think it's A, a good word.
Like, it was an underrated word in the language.
Agreed.
And having it be brought back to the forefront, I appreciate.
And I feel like sometimes they make word of the year like, Riz.
Like, that's not a word, OK?
And I'm really-
But you know what is a word?
The Rizler.
I have, like, fallen down a Rizler rabbit hole.
Oh, well, that's good, because I have so much to send you.
I can tell. I'm happy to see youizzler rabbit hole. Oh, well, that's good because I have so much to send you.
I'm kidding.
I'm happy to see you here down the hole.
I just like, I don't know.
I've always like, ever since I met Costco guys
and you told me about them,
like I've always thought they weren't nearing
and paid attention, but like now when I see their videos,
like I'm not okay.
We need a documentary.
We do.
Like a real Netflix one.
Do you see that one of them at the Knicks game?
Just going like-
Of course I did.
Jackie, did you see the professional wrestling thing?
Did your husband show it to you?
No.
Oh, cause the person who I share all my Rizzler
and Costco guy content with is your husband.
We go back and forth.
And they did like a professional wrestling,
not like a WWE, but a similar,
like in this big arena, the dad-
I saw promo for it.
The dad wrestled, obviously he won,
even though it was like staged.
And AJ and the Riz were also involved
in some sort of like kind of supporting actors.
It was really one of the craziest things
I've ever seen in my life.
That is so crazy.
And how do they know the Rizler?
Family friend, friend of the fam.
I think that they initially, they started separately,
and then they very early on in both of their careers
did a collab and it was one of their more popular videos.
So they just kept doing it.
Now they keep adding like supplemental characters
to the crew.
We're not really interested.
Like I like their family and I like the Rizzler.
Like stop, they're trying to make all these other people
happen and it's not.
This like, Claudia, it was just shocking.
They're not real.
Demure, not Rizler, unfortunately.
Demure is the word of the year.
I do like it.
I hope people would, you know, take heed
and maybe act in more Demure fashion
in their everyday life.
And like, I like that we're all learning new words.
That's the whole point of word of the year.
And it also is reflective of a word we used a lot this year.
I mean, my word of the year, of course, is emblematic
but I'm different. I'm not like other girls, my word of the year, of course, is emblematic, but I'm different.
I'm not like other girls.
My word of the year, five years running,
is nefarious.
Nefarious.
What was our, oh, I think our word of the year
will probably be-
Pargy.
Like gargy, yeah.
Or girly, or swirly.
I think this year was swirly, yeah, swirly.
This year would be swirly, or turt-30.
Or- Yeah. Or yeah.
Turd.com.
Yeah.
Turd and branch.
Yeah, probably.
Oh, so many words.
So many years.
Are you ready for our next story?
Hugh Grant is responding to Luantan Dula Seps.
I have to just like share his half of the story.
His truth.
Just like for like journalistic integrity.
But it kills me to like-
I wish the fantasy ended yesterday.
Kills me to cast any doubt on what Luann said.
But I have to do it.
And I just want to say,
Hugh Grant is 1000% telling the truth, like 1000%.
And he delivered it in the nicest possible way
that he could have, but I wish he'd just shut his mouth.
You know?
Yeah, I wish he didn't.
I wish like he listened to the toast
and like knew how well this reflected on him.
And like, even if none of it was true, like,
to let us, yeah.
So he screenshotted the People Magazine story
about Luann recalling heavily making out with him
and he posted on X.
Steady on, I do remember meeting a charming Rony.
R-D-O.
Oh yeah, Renny.
Renny.
A charming Renny in a restaurant,
but I'd like to stress it was about 15 years ago.
I don't recall shots or kissing,
but her memory might be better than mine.
So he's being generous in saying-
He's holding space for the option.
He's being generous in saying like this didn't happen,
but like it's possible, like she's not a liar,
maybe I forgot, but he knew the incident,
like he remembers this night.
So I just, and by the way,
Luann responded with like a gif of herself,
like she's so iconic.
I just like, I left feeling yesterday's episode
like so joyful, like I loved this story.
I hadn't heard it until you shared it with me
and I thought it was really a positive reflection
on everybody involved.
And so for him to like get involved,
which I kind of didn't even want him to speak about it.
Like what was Kevin Costner gonna talk about it
the last time?
Like get away.
Like this is for the girls.
And I didn't even like,
I don't know what he could have said
that I would have liked,
but I certainly, it's not this.
Unless he said something like jolly good fun.
Best night of my life, Luann, let's do it again soon.
Yeah, but this just, I mean, it could have been worse.
He could have been like an arse.
I've never seen, yeah.
But he is like casting doubt on a story
that meant a lot to us.
Yeah.
And it's like, get out of the way.
Yeah.
It was so harmless.
I guess the fact that he is acknowledging
that they did have a night together is huge.
And the fact that, like he said, it was 15 years ago,
I feel like that was like kind of unnecessary.
Was she a housewife 15 years ago?
Probably, but she would have been married.
Like the timing isn't making sense.
I also thought it was like this summer,
the way she was talking about it.
Me too, or like the last two years. I mean, isn't making sense. I also thought it was like this summer, the way she was talking about it. She was, yeah.
So season one aired in 2008.
So let's say they filmed it in 2007.
How many years ago was that?
17.
Oh, so she was married.
I kind of just made that up.
So 15 years ago, she was married.
Yeah, so it wasn't 15 years ago.
But maybe he was being like general.
It was me, like when I say something was last year and it was last week. Yeah, and it was, or four months ago it wasn't 15 years ago. But maybe he was being like general. It was me, like when I say something was last year
and it was last week.
Yeah, and it was four months ago, it was 40 years ago.
Yes, perhaps.
So like don't come in with your correction
when you don't have the facts, right?
Yeah, and I actually just really genuinely wish
he stayed the hell out of this.
Or maybe like Luann and the Count had an open marriage.
I could see it.
I could see it too.
What does the Count up to?
He got remarried, right? Count Olaf?
Yeah.
Count, no, that's not his name.
Count Delasephs.
No, Count Suez.
Count Suez.
Don't forget, the Delasephs family of yore
built the Suez Canal.
So he's not married at the moment.
And Jackie, I wanna say, like,
the Delasephs being the ones who built the Suez Canal
is a piece of trivia I keep in my back pocket that I cannot wait to come
up on Jeopardy.
Like Ben is going to be shocked because there are certain categories me and Ben
know like we might get, but some categories when they're like, you know,
geopolitical, we're like, but there's going to be one, one day about who, which
royal family built the Suez Canal.
And I'm going to say the De La Seps.
And Ben will think that I watched the episode without him
and wrote it down and cheated.
That's something I'm so looking forward to.
Maybe, I don't know.
I feel like it's something that's seared in all of our minds.
I feel like Ben might know it.
Let's ask him.
Do you know which noble family financed the Suez Canal?
Oh, finance.
Do you know which noble family financed
the Suez Canal, question mark?
Because the count wasn't down there with an ax.
And Ben is not gonna answer
because he's with his girlfriend, Alex Cornicelli.
Oh.
Who I found out is actually not married.
She is single.
So this will be the last time they're hanging out.
Wow.
That would be like a funny way for this story to end.
Well, not funny, but funny.
Not funny.
At all funny.
Are you ready for our next story?
What number?
Four.
Yeah.
Some big podcasting news.
Oh yeah.
Kylie Kelsey is launching her own brutally honest podcast.
So the Kelsey clan is taking their podcasting empire
to new heights.
Kylie, who's the wife of former Eagle star,
Jason Kelsey announced on Monday that she will be launching
Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelsey next month
with new episodes released weekly on Thursdays. The show is being produced by Wavesports and
Entertainment's which had been the same outfit that produced
new heights before they moved to Amazon Wondery.
She put out a trailer for her show talking about what she's gonna talk about,
talking about how she almost titled it a bunch of different stuff to be honest,
fuck her and find out with that Kylie energy.
And I think she's got Riz and I think she's got what it takes.
Yeah, people really like her
and there is so much intrigue in this family.
And as much as we were saying,
like we worry about them being overexposed,
Kylie is so not that.
I feel like she's so like private that this is real.
And especially when you think about how much money
the Kelsey brothers have made in such a short amount of time
just due to this weekly podcast.
I think that her not doing it
would be like leaving money on the table.
And there's so much intrigue.
Like it's a brilliant business idea.
And she's like a mom, which is, she's so different.
Like it's not gonna be even remotely similar to New Heights.
Like there's so many people who love her
and she's like so like Philly famous,
but like nationally famous.
And she's like mom famous.
She has all the things.
Yeah, no, this is like a pocket of their world
that hasn't been dealt to at all. Like I think there's so much there. Even the teaser. Yeah, no, this is like a pocket of their world
that hasn't been dealt to at all.
Like I think there's so much there.
Even the teaser she was talking about,
like they're gonna be talking about parenting stuff.
She's gonna be talking to guests.
I'll probably talk about sports stuff
because she's a huge sports fan.
I think there's so much to talk about.
And I think she has got a lot of personality.
I think she's gonna be great.
Yeah, there also is like a big market.
Like there are other really successful podcasts
of famous athletes wives.
Like Kelly Stafford's is really popular.
I think that's like something people really enjoy hearing
about, especially girls who like sports.
I am curious, like at what point and in what capacity
will Taylor get involved in the Kelsey podcast universe
like as a guest?
Like, obviously I thought it would be New Heights,
maybe it'll be this one.
Maybe it will be this one.
I don't think, New Heights doesn't even have guests,
so I don't even really,
aside from Adam Sandler or whatever,
I don't even think she would go on as a guest,
but maybe when they're married with children,
she'll pop in the background,
Travis, pick up your underwear.
Yeah, Kylie has walked in the background
of Jason's studio being like,
can you put the girls to bed? When you podcast from home, that up your underwear. Yeah, like Kylie has walked in the background of like Jason's studio being like, can you put the girls to bed?
Like when you podcast from home, that is what happens.
Right.
There's just, it's like the Rizzler, you know?
Yeah, well, one of Taylor's cats was in an episode.
So that's huge.
Yeah, I think it'll be more casual than that.
Like Travis texting Taylor, like, hey, Ler,
like, do you know who finances the Swiss?
Right, right, right right and he hasn't yet
Classic husband wife stuff correct
So I think that's what it's more so about not like she's gonna be sat for an interview
And then maybe like when she has Travis's babies one day she'll do like a parenting episode with Kylie on her pod
I'm having his baby
No, I'm not
The surrogate is it's you do I'm having his baby. No, I'm not.
The surrogate is. It's you. She's due.
In January.
I wish.
Imagine I'm right.
I don't think you are, but if you are,
I'll be really shocked, like,
at your ability to predict the future.
Like, the odds that I am are seriously zero,
but it's good to put predictions out there.
I've got skin in the game now.
It could, maybe not January, maybe February,
give her a little break from errors.
She is done with errors.
No, there's still a couple of shows in Vancouver.
You just making stuff up now?
Every week I'm like, it's the last errors.
No, I'm sorry, but every day I see headlines,
it's the last errors. She's been in Toronto for every day I see headlines, it's the last eras.
She's been in Toronto for a while too.
She did a lot of shows there, I think five.
So I think it was two separate weekends
and it felt like the last two stops, but it's not.
Every once in a while I see like
Swifty conspiracy theories that like have a lot of-
Merit.
Credit.
Yeah, like I saw that the date of her first era show
to what her last one will be,
the number of days in between the shows.
1,989.
1989, yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
No, sorry, the date of when Scooter bought her music
to her last era show.
Got it, maybe that's when she'll announce her reputation.
Maybe, and then also you saw this Yellow Brick Road theory. the best era show. Got it. Maybe that's when she'll announce reputation. Maybe.
And then also you saw this yellow brick road theory.
No, I'm not you telling me about theories.
I think I send it to you that basically like
there's something to do with yellow brick road in her lore
and her Instagram right now has like a row of yellow
leading to the yellow brick road.
And then her last show was in Vancouver
which is sometimes called the Emerald City.
By who?
Like the way you're in the empire state. Right. Like Vancouver's the Emerald City. By who? Like the way you're in the Empire State.
Like Vancouver's the Emerald City.
Oh yeah, I'm seeing the yellow.
So she's taking the yellow brick road to the Emerald City
and then I don't know what happens from there.
Something to think about.
Yeah, I think it has to do with debut.
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Jertback. Our fifth and final story, Glenn Powell says his lookalike contest
winner will get their
parents or any family member of their choice a cameo in his next film.
So all of a sudden-
Oh my God.
I saw this headline and I thought it was like a cameo, like a video.
No, they will be in his next movie.
That's cool.
That is cool.
But like what?
I woke up one day and everybody's having a lookalike contest.
Explain. Like what, I woke up one day and everybody's having a lookalike contest, explain. Well, Timothy Chalamet went to that one
and I think it was such a good PR
and people started then throwing them even more frequently
because the chance of your favorite celebrity showing up
is now like increased 10X.
So they just started becoming,
I don't know if people were doing it before
but they were definitely doing it more
after Timothy Chalamet and they were getting more attention
because of the Timothy Chalamet thing.
So now it's kind of becoming a running joke
and celebrities getting involved.
It's a kind of just good, easy PR.
And I think this is great.
So Glenn Powell called into his own lookalike contest
in Austin on Sunday to give the winner a very special prize,
a cameo in his next film, but not for the winner himself,
but for the lookalikes parents or any family member
of their choice.
Yeah, you can't have like a Glenn Powell lookalike
in your movie, that's confusing.
That is confusing, could have been a stump double.
Also like Glenn's parents often show up in his movies.
He gives like his own parents cameos.
So he's giving his lookalikes family members cameos.
And also Glenn's mother was at the lookalike contest
and she chose the winner.
Let me tell you, Glenn Powell is well on his way.
Like everything I hear about this guy, I love.
He's so handsome.
He's really talented.
Like I think that was probably the biggest shock for me
when I actually first saw him act in something.
I was like, wait, he's really good.
Every time I hear something about him,
like it's so overwhelmingly positive, like family man.
I love this man.
Yeah, the winner was a physician's assistant
named Maxwell Bronstein.
He actually, he did look like him.
He was dressed in like the Top Gun.
Okay, wait, now I need to say,
because some of these people they be choosing
are like not even remotely lookalikes.
No, it's always like number two and three
look nothing like them,
but usually number one is the real true lookalike.
Maxwell Bronstein.
The Jeremy Allen white one, like the people were wins.
Every single one, I couldn't pick a winner.
That's funny.
The winner received $5, a cowboy hat,
free queso from Torchies Tacos for a year,
and a special message from Glenn himself,
who was on FaceTime with his mom during the event.
You know what, he doesn't not.
Honestly, he's got that really cute smile.
That's like Glenn Powell's thing.
He's got a really beautiful smile. Oh, that's got that really cute smile. That's like Glenn Powell's thing. He's got a really beautiful smile.
Oh, that's the mom.
That's the mom.
I also, I like that they did in Austin.
I feel like he's like Austin famous.
Do you know what I mean?
Does he live there?
I think so, yeah.
That's cute.
Yeah.
So I'll just sweeten this around,
free PR for Glenn Powell and we ate it up.
And we're like, we're, we are the problem.
We are just cogs in a machine.
We are, I think however, our awareness
of our cog like nature definitely offsets
some of the damage.
I don't even know what you just said,
but I completely agree.
Just that like we're aware, you know,
acceptance is the first step.
Right, right, we're like self aware cogs, you know?
And also sometimes like I feel like we-aware cogs. You know? And also sometimes, like,
I feel like we fuck with the machine, you know?
1,000.
We are always fucking with the machine.
Like, you're so right.
Well, we sometimes do our cog-like work,
but other times, we fuck shit up.
We sometimes do our cog-like work, like today.
I'm a cog for Len Powell, I would say.
Yes, yes.
There are certain things, institutions, human beings, I'm happy to be a cog for Len Powell, I would say. Yes, yes. There are certain things, institutions, human beings
I'm happy to be a cog for.
Yeah, I think we're cogs for wicked right now, unknowingly.
1000%.
And sometimes we're not, you know,
sometimes we're gonna call it out.
There's some things some people can't do
and we're never gonna forget.
Yep.
What they did.
Tarek.
Lenciaga.
Yeah.
We all have our mountains. Actually, at this point, you are a cog for Tarek. Glenciaga. Yeah. We all have our mountains.
At this point, you are a cog for Tarek.
Nobody gets more press.
I am, I make up for at least 50% of the engagement on his social media because I get tagged.
If you go through any sort of target, if you go to like a Tik Tok, especially if one of
his wives ex or current is in it, every single tag is me.
Actually something, the most embarrassing thing
happened to me today.
Cody Simpson posted a TikTok.
He doesn't have like a ton of engagement.
He posted a TikTok of himself singing wicked,
which I guess is like extremely toast coded.
Jackie, we were half the comments
at Claudia at Toast Podcast.
Like it's so embarrassing.
I'm sure people are like,
why are they tagging this random girl?
Oh my God.
Well, I was gonna say, I think at this point,
like we need to have Tarek on the podcast.
I thought you were going to say we need to have
Cody Simpson and we do.
Well, we do need to have Cody Simpson.
I could never in my life look at Tarek in the eyes.
Like I would simply-
After everything-
I would pass away like on the spot.
I want to put it out there.
Like if Tarek wants to come on,
this is like the most, the outreach I'm going to do. Like we're not following up. Like if this makes its way if Tarek wants to come on, this is like the outreach I'm gonna do.
Like we're not following up.
Like if this makes its way to Tarek,
like we would love to have you on the pod.
Just like really full circle.
And by the way, you're not gonna be able to like get away
with not talking about the arm type.
That's just obvious.
I think that he probably goes into interviews
and says, I don't wanna talk about the arm type.
And we can talk about other stuff too,
but like of course Tarek, T-A-M, T-A-H.
Yeah, T-O-T-T, Tarik on the toast.
T-O-T, oh my God, now everyone's gonna comment that.
No, okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Guys, please don't.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's time for our weekly advice segment,
which usually happens on Wednesdays,
but we moved into Tuesday, it's like a whole long story.
It's Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment
where Jackie and I do our best to help the swirlies in need.
You can reach out to us if you're in need of help,
anything from relationships to work,
to bodily issues you're having, whatever it is.
We are not medical professionals,
so please keep that in mind.
You can send us an email, deartoasters.gmail.com,
or head over to our website, thetospodcast.com.
Both options are totally anonymous,
so don't worry, we'll never blow up your spot,
and let's dive in, shall we?
Let's do it.
This one actually makes me sad.
I went on a first date last night
and while I was in the bathroom, he texted me.
She lives in a studio.
She's not as tubby as I thought.
How do I appropriately ruin this man's life?
Sincerely, 22 year old toaster who needs
to swirl his advice.
She got a text that wasn't meant for her,
which is probably the worst thing to happen
to a human being on the planet.
But after like a first date,
so it's like someone's just like initial
first impression of you.
The fact that he like had to remark
that you lived in a studio, that-
Is that good or bad?
Good or bad?
I would enjoy that you live alone.
Yeah.
Obviously we're never seeing or speaking
to this person ever again.
I know, but like how does she move on?
She should, oh, you know what you should do?
I don't know if you responded,
but you should send it back,
like what you would text your friend.
Yeah, like he has three roommates and he smells.
Doesn't know how to dress.
Like literally whatever your thoughts were,
like say it in a way like that's not overtly mean,
but like just merely observational.
Just a little something like he has three roommates
and he had lettuce in his teeth.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. It's important. Or just be like, he had lettuce in his teeth. Like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. It's important.
Just be like, he had pepper in his teeth.
Period. So awkward.
I didn't know what to say.
Like I found it so unattractive.
Tubby is such a mean word.
I guess I can actually,
you could use a different word that is meaner.
Like tubby, I guess is meant to be like endearing.
Yeah. But it's like, if you thought you were so tubby,
why did he go on the date?
Or unless he would've wanted you to be tubbier?
Oh, maybe he's one of those.
I just think that like,
I need to see what this man looks like,
because it's always like the ugliest motherfuckers
who have the most to say about other people's looks.
Like, I just know this man was like truly fucking heinous.
Yeah, the good news is it was the first day
till like you weren't in love with him.
Like you don't have to get over him
and you dodged a bullet.
Like thanks for sending these texts to me.
And in terms of-
You might have gone out with him again.
Yes, that's true.
In terms of like how to actually make yourself feel better,
I really do like the route of you sending,
like seriously, exactly what he said about you.
Like something about his living situation
or his work situation and his physical appearance.
That will make you feel better for, I feel better.
I love it.
My fire with fire, an eye for an eye.
And I'm such a fan of an eye for an eye.
And this is what I say every time we do like Dear Toasters.
And I think like people like don't agree with me.
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind and good.
Because if I'm blind, you should be too.
No, you can still see out of the other eye.
So true.
Okay, ready for our next one?
Swirly's, I am livid.
Long story short, I was venting to my husband
about his family and in the middle of our argument
slash my vent session, he pulls out his phone,
calls his mother and says,
why don't you just say it to her face?
I immediately grabbed the phone, hung up
and had a wave of anger come over me
that I've never felt before.
I felt so betrayed and taken aback by his behavior.
I tried explaining to him how insane that was for him to do,
but he does not seem to understand
the severity of his actions.
Am I fucking nuts or was this a giant breach in trust
and just truly insane behavior?
Insane behavior, you're so right for your wave of anger.
Not a breach of trust because he did it in front of you.
It's not like he recorded you and sent it to them.
Like he's just like a, he's a pussy
and he needs to man up and he wants to like,
he doesn't want to have to be like the middle man
between like your grievances and then airing them to them.
So he's like, do it yourself,
but it's like, you're there to protect me.
And he just, he needs to learn that and understand that.
That's hard.
No, like he's so lazy.
And so like in this situation,
it would be his job to be like the mediator.
Like you tell him your raw feelings,
he repackages it and says it to his mother
and tries to get peace between the two.
And he's so uninterested in being that person
that he's just like, it's your problem.
You're the one with the feelings.
Why don't you call my mother?
Hate, unacceptable. And by the way, if you do have a problem with your mother-in-law, you're talking to with the feelings. Why don't you call my mother? Hate, unacceptable.
And by the way, if you do have a problem
with your mother-in-law,
you're talking to the right person.
Do not speak to her directly.
Like it's literally your husband's job
to reel in his mother.
And I'm sorry, like that sucks.
Did the mom pick up?
Like did, it felt like it was just all kind
of happened very quickly.
Yeah, I think she hung up before she could pick up.
Okay, good, okay, good.
And you need to like hammer.
It's so annoying when you're like hammering in a point
and it's like, it seems so small and stupid,
but like you still want to,
like you just like a dog with a bone
and you won't let something go,
but it's like, it's so important
that you understand the severity of this.
Yeah.
As far as moving forward, like what to do next time,
like it's on him to understand, like that's his role.
That's anyone's role.
And for you and your family, like you are the one,
you're the go-between, that's anyone's job.
I don't know how you can make him get that,
but I'm sure there's punishments that you can think of.
Yeah, you can come up with, just also keep-
I'm sure there's things you can withhold.
At some point, he'll also,
if you just keep pestering him about it,
he'll give in just out of sheer annoyance.
And however you get him to do what you wanna do,
that's marriage and you just have to do it.
Right, and are they trying to get you to do something?
Withhold, whatever it is, until your point is made.
1000%.
Our third and final dear toasters,
actually somebody wrote in
because they were so inspired by last year toasters about the girl whose husband was getting a massage from his sister.
Okay.
She's like, hold my beer.
Okay.
Oh gosh.
Hey, Swirlies.
Oh gorsh.
I'm about to one up the husband getting a massage from his sister submission because
my husband's family is on another level.
The siblings who are all grown frequently give each other massages.
I'm talking essential oils and everything.
They wrestle.
They kiss on the lips when they leave.
All of it.
I personally come from a very non-touchy family
and this was very odd for me when I married in.
All that to say, I don't think, I think of it
and I've really gotten used to it until this.
My husband and sister and I were all in the hot tub
one night and when we got out,
they both wanted to rinse off.
That's your first problem.
Yeah, they both wanted to rinse off. I hear the first problem. Yeah, they both wanted to rinse off.
I hear the water running and I know my husband was in there
so I pop my head into tell him
that I'm gonna get our son ready to go.
And his sister pops her head out of the shower too.
They were both in swimsuits taking a shower together,
but the visual gave me such an ick.
Once again, they thought nothing of it,
but I cannot move past this.
Am I being dramatic?
I know there was nothing nefarious going on,
but it's just really weird, right?
It's so weird.
Here's the thing.
I don't think you can change this family.
This is who they are.
I don't think anything like beyond that is what's happening.
Like, I just think this is so crazy.
And I just think you need like friends
and people to vent to about it and laugh about it with
and then move on.
I think they're gonna do, they're gonna wrestle.
They're gonna kiss on the lips.
But Jackie, where does this family draw the line?
They're showering together, kissing on the lips.
Stop, stop, stop.
No, seriously.
And it's like, we're just a touchy family,
so we have sex.
You know what I mean?
Well, I think that's where we'll draw the line, okay?
Until then.
Wait, Jackie, is this gonna be my family?
Like, I'm such an affectionate person.
Yeah, and like, we kiss on the lips.
Your kids like learn from you,
so I'm giving everyone hugs and kisses, like, you know?
I think that when you have mixed gendered children,
like, you draw those lines.
Yeah, that's true.
I guess like, I don't have those lines,
cause we grew up, and especially for most of our childhood,
it was like single momhood.
Like it was literally only girls on our house
for most of our lives.
Right, not an issue.
Not an issue.
Yeah, okay.
So I don't think you have like have to worry
that your husband is gonna cheat on you with his sister.
It's just like you need people to laugh about this with
and we're here for you.
And to validate,
cause when you come from such an opposite,
you're like, am I crazy or are them?
They are.
Yeah, but like here,
all the things like isolated actually would,
except for the shower.
Yeah, the shower with the bathing suits.
Like kissing on the lips, like it's not that crazy.
And like Tom Brady does it.
Jackie, I thought at first when I was reading it,
I was like, because they were out in the hot tub,
I thought they took an outdoor shower together,
which is different.
Like those outdoor showers.
I kind of was envisioning outdoor shower.
No, she popped her head.
She said, I opened the door.
So like they were in a bathroom.
Maybe to the outdoor shower.
No, I had hoped that it was the outdoor shower.
It was an indoor bathroom.
Just stop, okay?
I understand why you have the ick, like this not okay,
but it's just learned behavior.
Maybe over the years you can like try and like,
you know, show him another way.
But that's tough.
It is tough.
It is also tough.
That's like a thing about marriage.
Like when you come from really different families
in terms of like touchiness,
that's like a, that's a part of like merging a life
that not enough people talk about.
I think me and Ben are pretty on the same page,
but there are people who are so different, like this girl,
because she said not only is he extreme,
but she's extreme too.
Like her family was not touchy at all.
And I know you as a person-
I'm not a super touchy person,
but I come from the elk of touchiness.
Yes, so you don't think touchiness is weird.
No, and I'm very touchy with my-
And you're used to being touched. Yeah, but I'm No, and I'm very touchy with my- And you're used to being touched.
Yeah, but I'm also like, I'm very touchy with my children.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just different strokes for different folks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
I feel like those were actually great dear toasters
as we go into like the holiday weekend
and you spend time with, you know, chosen and given family.
And I just wanna say, I think next week's seer toasters are gonna be lit
because people like really,
like with families and meeting in-laws,
a lot can happen on a holiday weekend.
Just, it's temporary situation.
Yeah.
Like keep in mind like what's just icky
and like what's a deal breaker.
Like that's seeing your husband in the shower
with his sister is icky. Yes, you are right for that. I think it's a deal breaker? Like that's, you know, seeing your husband in the shower with his sister is icky.
Yes, you are right for that.
I think it's a deal breaker.
Is this one who suits?
Had they been naked, it would have been a deal breaker.
Yeah.
Before we head off for the holiday weekend,
Jackson and I just wanted to say, you know,
we are so thankful, the spirit of thanks,
so grateful, so thankful for the Toasters,
everybody who listens and just supports us.
We love you guys so much.
Hopefully the Toast has brought you great joy
and laughter this year.
Wanna say thanks to our families.
We are grateful to them.
Thanks to our Toasters serving in the forces,
the armed ones, Toasters overseas, all the Toasters.
We just, we love you so much
and not enough to do a show tomorrow, but a lot, a lot.
We do. We love you a whole lot.
We are so thankful for you.
We're so thankful for this show, this business.
And I'm thankful for Turte.
Jert, I'm thankful for you.
I'm thankful for Jert.
There's no Queenie and Weenie this week.
So I guess that makes you the Queenie and me the Weenie.
Or both of us Queenie.
A tie for Queen.
Sorry. A tie for Ween.
Queen, Luan.
Ween, Hugh.
What did we talk about today?
Queen. Schwartz and Sandys.
Wicked. A Queen Wicked.
Yeah.
Ween.
Bach.
Bach.
Bach, yeah.
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It's different. It's so full circle. Wickedly Talented We Are. It's different.
It's so full circle.
Wickedly Talented comes from the Wickedly Talented
Adele Dazeem and I didn't even realize John Travolta
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No, that was like what the script had written for him.
He was still reading the script up until that point.
No, but it was punny because Adele Dazeem is from wicked
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So it's really, it's quite full circle.
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