The Toast - The A-Lister and The Influencer: Tuesday, April 29th, 2025

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

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It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. Wow. That's like early in the week. Things we did got to Tuesday. And I woke up today. I'm like, oh, Thursday, we've earned it.

Jueves, baby. No, Martis. Just a little old Martis for you, but it's an exciting Martis. Oh my God. So much to talk about. Like first of all, Jackie and I soft launched our new merch collection. It's a small little drop we're doing. It's tomorrow at 10 a.m. Eastern time

at shoptoastmerch.com. In the spirit of Mother's Day, we always wanna be shouting out our mamas. I know we have so many, okay, not me doing like a Heil Hitler. What do you wanna do? I was shouting out, by the way, I was shouting out the mamas,

but I did encroach into Heil Hitler territory, and for that I apologize, because that's not what I was doing. What I was trying to do was salute our mothers, okay? So sorry. We have three merch pieces dropping tomorrow, Wednesday 10 a.m. Eastern time. Two of them are for the bebes,

so we have a little boy onesie, this is a green and a blue. It says, toasty bebe, and there's a little bear host, like hosting his own podcast. He's talking- You know how much that bear means so much to me, this talking bear.

He's talking about very interesting things on his podcast, okay? And then of course- You know what he's saying, Claudia? He's saying, you would love it. That is what he's saying. Of course we then had to make, for the Swirly's, in pink, same little number.

This is a size six month, but it goes from newborn to 24 months. So we've got all the swirlies. So put your two year old in that. And then, yeah. And then obviously we didn't wanna leave the mothers out themselves. So we're bringing back an old classic,

a toasty mama tea. A toasty mama tea shirt. This is an extra large. I haven't put it on my body yet. I feel very superstitious about it. Yes. But this is what an extra large looks like, if you're on my body yet. I feel very superstitious about it. But this is what an extra large looks like if you're curious. And I'm showing all the items on YouTube

if you're listening as a podcast. ShopToastMerch.com, 10 a.m. Eastern time. Cute little collection dropping. Just a small batch, you know? So make sure you set your alarms. Small batch, enough cheese and crackers for eight people. For eight people, yeah. And a token of our appreciation for the Toasty Mamas.

Couldn't have said it better myself, seriously. That's very exciting. We've been enjoying ours and I do love my t-shirt and stay tuned on our Instagram for more premium content of said items. Even though like yesterday we posted and then everyone thought, I don't know, you were- It was a pregnancy announcement, the twins.

Of twins. Or did they find a second girl baby for you in your belly? You know, I have heard on TikTok that happening at like your 35 week appointments, like the whole time there's been another baby and they're hiding. I did actually go to the doctor yesterday. I can confirm, solo traveler.

For now. For now. He does give the vibe of the type of baby who ate his twin, you know? Yeah, but I guess you never could discount it, but that's not what we were saying yesterday on our Instagram. No, we're just trying to respect and appreciate the mothers. Is that so hard for people to understand?

We were just trying to have a girl onesie and a boy onesie. Yeah. And show them off in like a pargylicious way. So that's exciting. I actually wrote down a couple of things that were exciting that I needed to talk about. You know what I didn't talk about that was exciting to me and I can't believe I didn't talk about it.

Because it's my whole personality was that I got my new car this weekend. Oh, you didn't talk about it. That is weird. It was such a big part of my weekend. I spent so much of my weekend talking about it that I guess I had felt like I had moved on, but then I got in my car yesterday after the show

and I'm like, oh my God, I didn't even tell anyone about brand new Tessie. That's how I felt when I got on my phone and I realized I didn't tell anyone that Alex Earl commented on Zandra's post and it was like, it was really crazy. Oh, I meant to make it a story for you. That's okay, I just meant to bring it up

as like kind of the one remaining champion of these two women individually. And this is the first and maybe only sign of life up as like kind of the one remaining champion of these two women individually. And, and this is the first and maybe only sign of life from these two. Alex commented on Zandra's photo from stagecoach of Zandra looking like fire flames. And Alex, I think just wrote like hot or something. Like, Oh my God. No, no, there's been a rep pro schmo. Yeah. I don't know. Like this doesn't,

This didn't happen in a vacuum. No, some people are like, well see there was never anything wrong. No, there was. They spoke, they buried the hatchet. And I'm such a fan of these two reconciling that for me it meant a lot. So that's kind of what I did this weekend.

I can't believe I forgot that in the weekend catch up yesterday. Yeah, no, like it's just so crazy how quickly you can move on from things that are so important to you. And I just wanna say like my new model Y, which is what I went with the new version of my old car, like it's just everything and more.

And like everywhere I go, people are like, I was at the playground and a 12 year old was like, is that the new Model Y? I'm like- I'm not the 12 year old. Why, yes it is. Everyone like knows and they're like- Oh my God, you're like have a Nintendo Switch, like-

No, no, no, it's like so sick. I was, I valed the day I got my car and they were like, is that the new Model Y? Everyone's talking about the new Model Y. That feels good. I was like, yes, why, yes it is. I just picked it uped the day I got my car and they were like, is that the new Model Y? Everyone's talking about the new Model Y. I was like, yes, why, yes it is. I just picked it up from the dealership. I had such a pleasant experience. So I'm feeling really good about that.

And like, I feel with my last car, like I just expected to like dent it and like destroy it. Cause it was my first car in my whole life. And I did dent it. And like, I don't know, I just didn't take as much pride in it. But like now I feel like this is my new whip. Like, oh, get your feet off the seats.

Like, yeah. That one like had training wheels. Like you were really learning to drive, but now you can like treat your car with respect. I'm treating it with a lot of respect. I am for now. For none of you. For now.

The craziest thing happened to me last night. It better be the craziest thing. It is. I'm out to dinner. Where? I leave the restaurant. Raphael's? No, but I'm glad you brought that up because it's relevant, okay?

I'm out to dinner. I walk outside. It was very hot in the restaurant. So like me and my swirlies, we were chit chatting a little bit outside before we went our separate ways, sort of ending the night. And I just looked to my right, who do I say?

Keenan Thompson. Crazier. My husband. And I was like, we both exited separate restaurants. I knew he was going to dinner with his parents. He knew I was going to dinner with my friends. We didn't like coordinate where we were going.

So we ended up eating on the exact same block at the exact same time and leaving at the exact same time. We didn't even coordinate going together. Like we literally left the apartment together and we went like he, I walked, he took a cab. Like we literally went separate ways. You walked and he took a cab even though you were went separate ways. You walked and he took a cab, even though you were going to the same destination?

I did walk, yes. I left really early because I wanted to walk and I took like literally 25 minutes to walk 15 blocks. And he took a cab that distance or he went to his parents first or something. Maybe, maybe, I don't know. But like we just, we left the apartment. Cause that would be a really bad look.

The pregnant woman could walk. No, no. It was a little chilly too. But we left the apartment at the same time. I didn't see him arriving at the restaurant. But what are the odds that we would be leaving at the same time too? Do you know how disorienting it is to like look to your right

and see your husband in the wild and walking out with a woman. Now it was his sister, Maddie, my Malkatonim sister, so it's fine. It was so, I don't know. I don't know. No, I'm kidding. It was so disorienting. And I'm like, Ben, it was kind of, it was kind of like a movie. Like everybody in the streets was also like, oh, this is a moment. You know, we all sort of, we all sort of frozen time. Yeah. I ate at Bella Blue, which is on the same block

as Rafael's, which is where Ben ate. I saw his story that he ate at Rafael's and which is like a poppin new Israeli spot. And I saw all the food and I was like, I wonder if Claudia ate this. And then he's like, no dinner. So I'm like, Claudia was next door housing pizza and pasta.

Oh my God. And like I ordered really like well, you know? Like I ordered well. Different than your usual? A little bit, but I was like splitting a bunch of like fat things with my pregnant friend. And when we were ordering them, like, you know, like you're very conscious, like of your order being big,

you know, like I'll have a whole pizza and a whole pasta. And I realized like I do this thing when I'm like being particularly pregnant. I'm so self-conscious of people not knowing that I'm pregnant, that I'll hold my thing when I'm like being particularly pregnant. I'm so self conscious of people not knowing that I'm pregnant that I'll hold my stomach when I'm being fat. Like, or if I'm walking really slow in the street and like people give me looks,

I'll immediately put my hand on my stomach. It's kind of like a defense mechanism. So when the guy was like, do you want the pizza and the pasta together? I put my hand on my stomach. I'm like, yes, yes I would. Yes, we do. Yes, we do.

Yeah, cause we are, yeah, too, correct. So he'll have the pizza, I'll have the pasta. I'll have the pasta. We might. Correct. Maybe we'll split. We might go like bite for bite, but. Right. He's really into the pizza.

So I ate really well. And then I saw my husband. It was so crazy. Did you go home together? We did. Okay, good. And do you feel like that story lived up to the hype of me saying the craziest thing ever happened to me last night?

Yeah, that's pretty crazy. It was. But I think it also just goes to show how similar you guys are. You know that even the cadence of your meals is tempoed at the same time. We're so simpatico. You venture to the same neighborhoods.

And so I think there's more to it than just random coincidence. I think you guys- It's more cosmic than that? It's more, yeah, you guys are more interconnected than you think. You're on the same biological clock of meal time and meal end.

Well, that's so true. Yeah. And I love that. You guys are also clearly the dominant leaders at each table who can determine what time the meal shall end. Cause some people like to sit there. To be clear, that is 100% my role. When the dinner is over, I do not dilly-dally.

These days, yes, cause I'm just uncomfortable in chairs, but always like when the meal is over, like let the meal end. Why do we have to add 20 minutes to the end of the meal that make me hate the whole experience, you know? I'm a big fan of like calling it when it's over. Yeah, well, when you're're with your day one homies, you can do that.

Yeah, it's different also if you're cocktailing it up. Okay, we can sip on our cocktails. But no, it's a weeknight. A lot of my friends have children. We had dinner. No, when you're with the OGs and people that you love, you could just be real. Nobody wants to sit around for this.

But when you're with strangers or acquaintances, everybody has to be polite and nobody wants to be the first to be like, let's call it. Correct, or like even ask for the check. Yeah. So what I like to do is go to the bathroom when it's time to get the check and I flagged on the waiter and be like,

can you bring the check over? So it looks like the waiter just presumed we were done. Yeah, and he's kicking us out, oops. Yeah, I'm like, oh, this place is so tacky. Let's leave. Yeah, let's just pay and get out of here. We have a busy show today. We have Dear Toasters. We have such a busy morning, we have such a busy show. Let's leave. Yeah, let's just take it out of here. We have a busy show today. We have Dear Toasters.

We have such a busy morning. We have such a busy show. We are dealing. The DTQ is getting fed. Don't worry. I've heard your cries. It won't happen again. I'll never prioritize myself ever again.

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which is surprising. Yeah, I feel like I've been seeing a lot of stuff about Beyonce low ticket sales. And I feel like every time, mostly a woman embarks on a stadium tour, they said it about reputation, they're always like, low ticket sales. And then it ends up being fine.

I saw videos, sometimes it actually doesn't end up being fine. Like, you know, Katy Perry, Jennifer Lopez, Kim Petras. I don't know if you saw that Kim Petras thing. She like definitely overbooked, like she overestimated the venue sizes for her last tour. And people were like on TikTok showing like day of StubHub

and then like showing empty seats in the arena. Like sometimes that does happen, but like for the most part with these like super famous artists like Taylor Beyonce, like people are going to the concert, okay? Yeah. Well, I think the cultural impact might be a little different, you know, when you compare like Beyonce's

Renaissance tour and all the hype for that. I didn't know Cowboy Carter was starting last night. Like it's kind of quiet. I didn't know Cowboy Carter was starting. I'm realizing now that she didn't do a Cowboy Carter tour yet. I thought like maybe there was like a break. She was like picking the tour back up and know this is like a whole new show. Right.

No, she did Renaissance for the last album, then released Cowboy Carter and now is Cowboy Carter. No, she's moving quickly. She's maybe she's built to pay TMZ has like the shadiest article about her. Not enough. They're always like shady towards her. But read it. They said that she's struggling to sell tickets.

Fans are saddling up with jokes. There's more than, for last night's kickoff show, the opening show in LA, that there are more than 3800 tickets up for grabs. Resale prices have dropped to $20. By the way, that's not a lot. 3800. In a 70,000 person stadium.

For the opening night of the album of the year? Are they open on Ticketmaster? Are they being resold? Unclear, they did say resale prices dropped to $20. That happens the night of, but that's very low. Yes, that is low. Yeah. If you're looking for, I wanna see,

I'm looking up her tour, 428, that was last night. Okay, five one tomorrow tomorrow or three days. Her next show at SoFi. Let's go on Ticketmaster. Let's see what's going on. Oh my. It's something there. There are tickets.

I'll say that. On Ticketmaster? On Ticketmaster. That's crazy. There are resale. Obviously, you know that that's like the pink But Taylor Swift has resale everyone has but then the blue button So there's there are two but this is what I'll say

There are tickets. Would you say there are there are resale? You know what? There aren't a shit ton La Yeah, no there. Okay. There are tickets Yeah, no, okay, there are tickets. Would you say there are tickets, tickets, tickets? I kind of would. Yikes. I find that shocking.

Even though maybe it's because her album was such a departure from her usual stuff and she wasn't fully embraced by country and then her OG fans maybe aren't into country so she's in this middle ground. But that didn't stop it from becoming album of the year. Yeah, but album of the year doesn't really have anything to do with.

Well that we know. With like with sales or reception or fandom. So tours are really indicative of that. Like how do people wanna show up and spend their money? If you're a huge Beyonce fan and Cowboy Carter wasn't your favorite album. You would still go. You would still go because she's gonna play the other songs too. Right you're a huge Beyonce fan and Cowboy Carter wasn't your favorite album. You would still go. You would still go because she's gonna play

the other songs too. Right, no, a thousand percent. Especially if she knows that her fans didn't love Cowboy. Of course she's gonna cater it towards everyone. It was interesting to see how she is incorporating other swirlies besides Blue Ivy. I have wondered long about the twins, right? Yeah.

What is the other twins' name? Sir. Rumi and Sir, yes. So it's kind of Rumi's. Rumi's big night. Coming out party, what is her debutante affair? Yeah and Blue Ivy was dancing more than ever, she had solo dance moves,

cause on the last tour she came out with the dancers. Once, yeah. So she participated in the show, but now she's getting her own dance break. She's a very skilled dancer. She is, and it's so fun to watch, and it's such a great, it's a great use of Beyonce's platforms to give her daughter

this big stage. 1000%. I love that type of nepotism, honestly. I love, love. And I'm sure the fans die for it. I'm sure it's just so beautiful to ever hear it. And we never see Rumi. We never see Rumi. I didn't even know what she looked like.

She looks just like Beyonce. She went to the Super Bowl with Jay-Z. That was the first time we saw her recently. Yeah, maybe. So like they're slowly rolling her out. Yeah, rolling out Rumi. I didn't see Rumi dance and I saw her hugging her mom, but she's also so young.

She was just there like being swirly and waving. I think she's too young to take on like choreographic responsibilities. Yeah, to be a part of like the team. She was just sort of nestled in her mother's bosom while her mother sang a beautiful song. It was really beautiful. And Blue Ivy was also nestling them. Dancing behind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. mother sang a beautiful song. It was really beautiful. And Blue Ivy was also nestling dancing behind. Yeah. She was like hugging them. It was really

shaking that thing. Having fun. Having fun. No, the sales is definitely interesting. Yeah. And the fact that we didn't even know cowboy Carter tour was kicking off or happening. Oh, we did see, oh, remember in January, she had her big announcement that she was going to announce happening. Oh, we did see, oh, remember in January, she had her big announcement that she was gonna announce her announcement. I knew there was a tour and I'd been seeing people on Twitter complaining, people who waited in line on Ticketmaster

paid full price, like dynamic pricing, and then seeing seats in their section going for like $100. But they paid like 600. Yeah, so I've seen a lot of people love to complain about Ticketmaster things. So I knew I've seen like a lot of people love to complain about like Ticketmaster thing. So I knew Beyonce's tour was happening because of that. Because people were complaining.

Yeah, people literally live to complain. Like an artist can do anything they want to make it like a peaceful process and there's just gonna be complaining. So that's what I've seen them like. You know when it's like they complain when there's no tickets on Ticketmaster. Now they're complaining that there are too many tickets

on Ticketmaster. I'll be complaining that there are too many tickets on Ticketmaster. I'll be curious to see if like what happened to like Katy Perry, Kim Petras, like will, like that type of content will find me. If there'll be like videos of empty rows or. I don't think Beyonce's fans will do that to her. Me neither. And also I think that like when you,

the first night of a tour and like videos start to come out, the blue Ivy, the roomie, and then just like beautiful. Then you wanna buy tickets, oh when's it coming to my town? It's a marketing. Yeah. Yeah, so I do think it's sort of an issue that might resolve itself, but it is interesting to see perhaps the impact

or like influence of this particular era just not hitting. Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know, I'm seeing a lot of stuff from Katy Perry's tour and I know it's like, everyone's freaking, it's making me wanna go so bad. It's the most effective form of marketing. I must see this circus in real life.

Even like when she's like being the robot and stuff. I am so obsessed with Katy Perry in not a positive or a negative way, but like in a genuinely, like I'm so obsessed with Katy Perry in not a positive or a negative way, but like in a genuinely like, like I'm so interested in her. She's such a freak. Like, well, I need to see this show in, in the realest way. The way I feel is I feel like as you know, a society and a country, like we, we pride ourselves on like not bullying, right? Like we're not bullies and bullying is bad. And bully is like a four letter word, cancel the bullies. And like we are not bullies and bullying is bad. Bully is like a four letter word. Cancel the bullies.

And like we are actively watching the entire country bully Katy Perry. And whether or not like I'm into her at the moment, like that just feels wrong, no? I know. And it feels like it goes against everything that like we've been taught and that people are always being, don't be a bully.

And you know, it happens a lot where like people become like the butt of a joke on social media and there are multiple ways of like handling it. Sometimes they handle it really well, they roll with it. And like, even if it's not genuine, they like laugh with everyone, right? Because it's like kind of the only way to survive. Katy Perry is like not doing anything.

She's sort of like letting everyone bully her and then like crying about it on stage. And then also like then acting even weirder. Right, like giving people more, like has she always been this weird or are we just noticing? I think she's always been a little weird. Yes. Yeah, quirky. But like it was hidden behind like better songs.

And like major success. Yeah. But when the success started waiting and then you just saw the weirdness of, you know, Bon Appetit, the weirdness stuck around. The success did not. But even like when she was on American Idol, like her weird comments would get pulled.

But now she cannot say one thing without it being weird. No, I do feel bad for her. I feel bad for her. It just feels like objectively wrong to like have everyone bullying this one person. She's just a human being. I agree. Are you ready for our next story,

which is some exciting romantic news that has kind of taken the world by storm. Because I think romantic news that has kind of taken the world by storm. What is it? BJ Novak dating. It has taken my world. Dating, they calling her TikTok star,

but she is also a real star. She is a very real star. Because I know her, Delaney Rowe. So she is the girl who makes videos where she pretends to be like an insufferable main character in a rom-com. You guys definitely know her face if you don't know her name. She's like so classic.

She's so classic. She makes the funniest videos. I feel like I'm always, whenever I see them, I always like repost them on my story because they make me laugh. She's really like captured. She's extremely talented. Yeah, yeah, she is.

And she's dating BJ Novak. He's 45, she's 29, works for me. Yeah, no, I know it's like technically a large age gap. She's so wise beyond her years, I'm not worried about her. Only someone so smart could make the videos she makes. I also love that, like obviously, this is a romantic relationship with her, but when you're in the public eye,

like who you date raises your star. And like, I want her to be famous. Like I want her to book real roles. Like she deserves, she's, it's very rare that somebody like blows up and they're so talented, right? Like she writes these sketches. She's a funny actress.

Like she's very talented. So if BJ Novak is a stepping stone in her career, I'm here for it too. I don't like die for BJ Novak the way like people do. People have like huge crushes on him, you know. They're like his crush. I don't die for him because I didn't watch Mindy Project or The Office.

He wasn't in the Mindy Project, he's just friends with Mindy, but okay. But maybe if I watched Mindy Project, I'd be obsessed with Mindy and then I would die for BJ. I'm obsessed with Mindy. I'm obsessed with Mindy. I'm obsessed with Mindy. And like I give zero thought to BJ Novak. Like he's just not my guy.

But this makes me like him because like he obviously is a man of taste. Taste, yeah he sees quality. Yeah and it's like I wouldn't expect BJ Novak to date an influencer and he wouldn't. But like to date the acting influencer, the comedy actress influencer. Like if you could.

She's also very beautiful. She's like, she could also be a model. Like she's like super thin, tall, beautiful, luscious brown hair, like porcelain skin. She's literally gorgeous. She could be a model. Yeah, she does like fashion stuff too. But anyways, like you couldn't write this any better.

I could have spent all day thinking of like the perfect couple of A-lister and real squeen, and I would have never thought of this. Completely agree, and I don't know either of them personally, or really all that well in terms of their personality. I just do feel like it's a good match. No, no, no.

Personality-wise. They're gonna live happily ever after. I absolutely love this. You'd love to see an internet swirly kind of getting plucked from the gutters into Hollywood A-list and for it to happen. It couldn't be happening to a better person. I've actually met her once at the Dear Media studio.

She was on someone's podcast and I was just like, oh my God, you're so funny. She was so nice and so pretty in real life. I'm really happy for her. Me too. And I'm happy for BJ that he gets to be around her. And I'm happy for me because this is such a great story. I love talking about it. It is and it doesn't happen often when influencers and traditional celebrities

date but it's always monumental when it happens. And it's more often than not flipped gender roles. It's usually like the famous celebrity woman dating the internet reality star Guy. Yep. dating the internet reality star guy. Yep. Sarah Hyland, Gigi Hadid. Nick Vile and January Jones. Allegedly. No, no, he confirmed it. Did he?

I got the feeling he did. Oh, he confirmed it in my dreams. Visa V feeling. He emotionally confirmed it. I just feel like when he came on the show, we asked him and like, he came on the show, we asked him and like, he gave a look. Did we?

I think we did. We are so funny. We're brazen. We're insane. Who would ever come on our show? Who wouldn't? Literally biggest podcast in the fucking world. No, we're really sick.

I mean, who wouldn't come on our show? We're so funny. You would have so much fun. You would have so, I mean, you're really sick. I mean, who wouldn't come on our show? We're so funny. You would have so much fun. You would have so, I mean, you're not invited. We don't really have guests, but you would have a blast. Claudia's maternity leave. If you're like a famous person listening to the show, spots are booking up for Claudia's maternity leave.

Jackie is booking up quickly. However, if you are famous and interesting, reach out. If you're famous, interesting, and interested, reach out. You could even DM me. Send us a message. I'll see it. There's the check mark. Don't DM the toast.

We don't check that as frequently as you would think. No, and every time I do, I'm like, we've gotta check this more. It's amazing. There's so many money-making opportunities in there, like celebrities. I've got it. I never check.

And literally the last time I checked was over the summer, literally in August, we're sitting by the pool, and we had a message from Amy Schumer. I'm like, what are we doing? And that was the last time I checked, I have to go check again. Yeah, no, it makes sense why people would tag the toast, but like, we don't, yeah, we'll be better about that.

Anyways, reach out to me. Yeah, we'll be better. Reach out to me if this sounds like the job for you. Or me, if you want, I'll get it to Jackie. Says both of us. Sure, sure, yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Martha Stewart is shocking Kelly Clarkson by saying she's never ordered food delivery.

So this story is funny for a number of reasons because Martha admitted she doesn't order food delivery despite being an Uber Eats spokeswoman. She was in the Uber Eats Super Bowl commercial with Charli XCX, and she was in another commercial for Uber Eats. In Uber Eats' defense, you can also get groceries on Uber Eats. With Matthew McConaughey.

Like in Uber Eats' defense, like I don't care. No, the thing is I'm really not looking for like cohesion and one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one.

And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one.

And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a good one. And I'm like, oh, that's a pass for literally everything. I also just don't care, you know? I'm more shocked like logistically. Of course, I never thought of Martha Stewart

as a type of person who typically orders in, but to have never once, like what you weren't like, hold up once and you needed to order a pizza, like nothing? She says she will go out or she will not eat. That's really crazy because she's been to prison. So she actually, she ate prison food. And she only delivered. What does that say about delivery?

A lot. She's not wrong. She, her next spokesmanship, spokespersonship should be for DiGiorno. Yeah. It's not delivery. It never is. It's DiGiorno.

Yeah. I feel like this is a great way. She probably squeezed Uber Eats for all the money that they could. Maybe she even knew like the partnership is over. Now she could do so many other things now. She could do like Home Chef. Dijon, Lean Cuisine.

Billion dollar. Blue Plate. Home prepping. Like what are they called? Meal prepping? Meal kits. Meal kit. Yeah, like Home Chef.

After. They should snatch her up next. Those companies have a lot of money. Put me on Bo's show. Actually, I had a Bo's idea like three seconds ago too about DiGiorno, so. Oh, that was good. Maybe we could be a team for Bo's show.

Oh, by the way, they would love us. We'd be unstoppable. By the way, Claudia did admit on the Patreon twice, but not on the show, that she thinks after all, I would be good on both the show. Yeah, no, I was wrong. I take it back, I'm sorry.

And I should have said it. You saw what I was talking about about myself. I guess you just said it to me as a marketer. Yeah, I should have said it on the show. No, I don't, because your marketing is so subliminal, very Josie and the Pussycats. Because I'm so much more than just a marketer. Correct.

But Martha Zaquini. Big time. But Martha's a queenie. Big time. Especially for never having ordered in. That's authenticity. Aside from the brief commercial. That's restrained. I don't think a lot of us wish we've never ordered in. It's never the most amazing food.

It's convenient, it's easy, sometimes it's cheap. It's not the most amazing culinary experience, but sometimes it's like, I don't wanna cook, I don't wanna go out, so it's cheap. Like it's not like the most amazing culinary experience, but sometimes it's like, I don't want to cook. I don't want to go out. So it's like the easiest way. So the fact that she's never given in to like just what's easy, that's shocking. Her restraint is something to be admired.

It is. It is. Are you ready for our next story? Four? Four. Yeah. A little JoJo Siwa update because JoJo Siwa has come off of Big Brother

and she and Chris Hughes are revealing their relationship status after Celebrity Big Brother UK. So we haven't talked about this on the main show but there's like something major going on in Celebrity Big Brother UK. JoJo Siwa was one of the contestants and fans were very quick to notice this like very- We talked about it on Patreon.

Yes, this very kind of touchy, lovey-dovey, close friendship relationship with a man named Chris Hughes. Now, JoJo is obviously a lesbian, we know this for a couple of years, and she just wasn't acting like one, right? And at first I think it could have been explained away. I definitely thought, I'm like, it's fine. I didn't think much.

But the more it progressed, and the hugging, and the hot tub, it was a lot. The show came to an end, it came out that JoJo, and JoJo has a girlfriend this whole time. JoJo's girlfriend and her have broken up. A them friend. Okay, JoJo and her partner have broken up. Kath.

Them friend. It's a they thing? Yeah, they're no longer together, which obviously sparked rumors even further. And now we're like, we've had all these questions, right? We're just watching this feed. They don't know that the world has become fucking obsessed with them.

And now they've said it. And then Jojo did say she was like, I'm I'm not the L anymore. I'm a cute. Right. No. Yeah. Jojo was having a conversation on the show with with someone. And she was like, you know, it's not with. OK, so Chris Hughes is the guy she's been flirting with. He is straight. He's from Love Island. Then she was talking to someone else.

Don't know his name. She said that she was just, you know, they're having a nice conversation being like, you know, this whole time I thought I'm lesbian, but I really feel like I'm not. I think I'm maybe more queer. Yeah. And people were, you know, guessing what that meant. Now, obviously it could have been a direct correlation

to Chris, because she's having feelings for a man. So it was a lot of moving parts that really all led to one conclusion. Yeah, well, before like this week, you thought that maybe it wasn't about Chris, that maybe she was just like attracted to more non-binary people, not just women. I had seen people explaining being like,

well, maybe she's not in love with Chris. Maybe what she's saying is that a lot of the people she's attracted to aren't identifying as women. So does that make you a lesbian if your partner is they? Right. So maybe that's why she said she was queer. Maybe it's not Chris Hughes related, but it could have been Chris Hughes related.

And so I think it is Chris Hughes related and she's attracted to more than just women because she is attracted to Chris. So they were asked about their relationship now that the show's over and they're doing press. She said, obviously we're close, obviously we're tight. He said, it's just a really strong bond between two people, which is just a strong friendship.

And I think you can have like a soulmate friendship. And to me, it's like that energy of where it's not like the standard friendship that you have with your friends. But you know, it's still a friendship and it's just nice. No, for sure. But what about like all the hugging and kissing? I think they're on their way to dating.

I imagine this is a very confusing time for them. They just came off a show where they're literally like lab rats and the whole world was watching them. She's figuring out her sexuality. She just broke up with her them friend. So it's not like she's gonna jump into a new relationship. Right now she's leaning on her friend, Chris Hughes. And then I think in a few months they will be dating.

Or not, like, or just being in that house all cooped up together, like gives you ideas, and then you get out in the real world and you're like- It's camp goggles. Correct. So there's a chance that they date, but there's also a chance that they don't date, and I don't think it has anything to do

with them not being attracted to one another. I just think it could be like, you know, a result of the experiment. The big brother goggles, I agree. Right, the BBG. Though he, I'm looking at one still photo of them and he looks to be in love with her, of the experiment. The big brother goggles. I agree. Right. The BBG. Though he I'm looking at one still photo of them and he is looks to be in love with her and he also looks handsome and he's very handsome.

So like why not like a spin? You're in the house. What else is there to do besides fall in love if you're like a young eligible person? Win the game. Conspire. Sure. You want to get all serious about it. win the game, conspire. Sure, you wanna get all serious about it.

You know, channel your energy towards victory. Yeah, the stakes are less high when you're a celebrity big brother. I think it's for charity, you know? Well, obviously the stakes are high for charity, but like when it's regular big brother, it's like life-changing money. Yeah.

So you really, you can't be bogged down by relationships, but people go on Celebrity Big Brother because it's popular and it makes them famous and talked about like we're talking about right now. But I also imagine like once you're in it, you're in it to win it. I mean, it also depends on your personality type, right? Like I know if I was cast,

like I would be such a fucking crazy person, I would win. No, same, like I'm so competitive. I just wouldn't go on it because I just wouldn't wanna see that version of myself. Everyone in the house would hate me, like I can't help, but once I'm like, I'm not interested in playing but then you got me in Oh bitch, I'm gonna wait. There's literally nothing more to do. Yeah, I'm in love with Chris Hughes. So everyone would hate me I'd be focusing on like how I can make a poop in private cuz that's like definitely a concern But other than that, like I would have to win. In it to win it. And who did win?

Correct. Doesn't even matter. Let's ask. Let's ask our third co-host chat. Chat? Chatty. Who won the season of Celebrity Big Brother UK? Do you have the app on your phone or something?

I do. Do you not? No, I always like logging on desktop. This is gonna be a spoiler alert. So just if you're watching. Is the show over? Oh yeah, cause someone won. We're ready.

Spoiler alert, here we go. Hold on. We're not. The winner hasn't been announced. Oh, maybe they just got kicked off. Oh, maybe the show is still going on, but those two are out. Cool, cool, cool.

Because the 2025 season concluded though on April 25th, three days ago. However, as of now, the winner of this latest season has not been publicly announced. That's weird. Excuse me? What kind of show is this? I don't know.

What kind of business do you win? That's confusing. And imagine how Kath feels. Tuning in every day to see her girl, see their girl. We're talking about Kath, so that's a win for Kath. No, to slowly watch your partner fall in love with someone else. Drift away. And you're like, hey, what about me?

Yeah, what about us? No, I'm sure Kath is enjoying being talked about, but like she literally had to watch in real time her partner move on from her, them. I can't explain how like I just, I oddly don't feel bad for Kath. I just like was looking at pictures of Kath and JoJo and I feel a little bad for Kath.

I think JoJo has like really toxic bad taste in women. Just based on like the little- So you think Kath's a bad girl? Bad then? Just a person. Based on the like limited knowledge I have of JoJo's relationships, there's like always drama and like always, and I just feel like

she's not being like instruct, like she needs, she's a dating coach, you know? Yeah. Okay. No, I'm making generalizations. But don't you think that like Chris Hughes would be a good choice for her? I honestly don't know enough about Chris.

I haven't seen anything really bad about him. Like when people talk about him, they're like, oh my God, he was the best, love Eileen UK. Yes, right, right. He's so great. No, he's kind of beloved in the UK. Yeah. And Big Brother, Celebrity Big Brother UK

is in a very important show to me. Because of Gemma? Pretty much I would let Gemma know that she is a fat cunt and the shoes that she gave me were not the type of shoes I would wear. They were old maiden type of shoes and she said that those shoes were meant to be worn on a beautiful woman so that's the case she should put him back on the rock because she was not qualified to wear those shoes and I think Jim is just a disgrace to women who are actually beautiful.

Somebody lied to her several times and told her that she was fly, hot, and sexy, and beautiful. And she's nothing like that. She's nothing of the sort. Nothing of the sort. Nobody has ever been read to filth so disastrously. And on a whim, like, you know, New York Pollard- Of course, it's just like a convention,

she just fart out. Yeah, yeah, she didn't prepare any of these remarks. Like it just flowed out of her like vomit. And it's so. Eloquent. Brilliant. She should have put him back on the rack. She should have.

Imagine if she had, we wouldn't have had that moment. So true. I'm glad she didn't. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? If it's our fifth and final story, that's brought to you by booking.com, booking. Yay. Every time we have ever used booking.com

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little chooser and adventurer on betwixt two stories. Oh, okay. A little influencer news or a little mothering news. Influencer. Okay. Pregnant Lele Pond slips and falls twice. Oh my God, this gave me such a pit. During her gender reveal for her first baby

with her husband. How do you pronounce his name? Guiana? I actually, I don't know who he is. He's a famous person, a rapper. Good for her. Yeah. Guys, she had like this big extravagant, you know,

like kind of one of these, almost like a stereotypical influencer gender reveals. They were like on this big stage and it was like Nickelodeon slime type theme. Either half the stage was pink, half the stage was blue and whatever slime came out of which side. Standing under the pink and the blue and then they were gonna drop.

Lele was on the pink, her husband was on the blue. Like it was really split. They were gonna drop the paint of the color of the baby and the blue. And then they were gonna drop- Lele was on the pink, her husband was on the blue. Like it was really split. They were gonna drop the paint of the color of the baby of the gender. She's wearing heels. She's wearing heels. So they drop the pink paint on the family. It obviously gets on the floor, just like, you know,

Nickelodeon. And- And she's so excited. She like jumps off. She makes her next move and she starts slipping on- Almost like a cartoon. Like when you like- Yeah, like when you like, zoop, zoop, zoop, zoop.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is extra, like, it's not just like, oh, she slipped. Like, it's just like scary because she's pregnant. Like this is a pregnancy. No, it gave me such a pit. Yeah. The gender, there are certain gender reveals

that are like famous gender reveal videos, you know, where it's like the mother-in-law comes and like hugs the son. Like there's a million. I feel like this is gonna go down in history as like one of those gender reveals for sure and I'm sure that like That's what she wanted for her. I mean, it's a huge gender reveal and she yeah This is what she does is like make viral content and as long as she's okay, which I do think she was okay She never hit the fine. She never hit the ground. She's a little wobbly and a little scary, but I'm sure last night

I slipped getting out of the shower. It was so scary. Oh gosh. I know, I wanted to yell at Ben so badly, but it was my, I was the one who made the floor wet. It was all my fault. I just feel like he should be cleaning up the floor after you went in there and went to sweat.

Or leave my slippers out for me. What about a bath mat? We have two. What about a third? I know, we need to carpet our bathrooms. True. I'm sure overall she's happy because it's gone so viral viral. Yeah. And that's like literally how she pays her bills. I thought what you were talking about influencer drama.

Are you at all following like the keto girls, Ozempic thing? No. Okay. Let me tell you, you probably have seen this girl. She, her name is Janelle. She's a nurse, but she's a big TikToker as of a few years ago. She invented like the bell peppers with cream cheese

and everything but the bagel seasoning, like that trend. Okay, Janelle, nurse. Do you know her face? I'm gonna have to give them more information. Nurse TikToker. TikToker. Hold on. She's like a mom, she's still a working nurse.

Janelle Roener? Roener, yeah. No, I don't know her. Okay, so, but you are probably familiar with her cultural impact, the boats of cream cheese on bell peppers. I didn't know that was like, you know, a thing. I just thought people eat like things.

No, no, like that was her. She like brings these like weird, crazy snacks. She's always been keto. And then her keto snacks like went super her. She like brings these like weird crazy snacks. She's always been keto. And then her keto snacks like went super viral. And now she does like macro or whatever. She's like a diet person. And she's always been like very healthy looking. I would say she probably had like,

like a normal like 10 to 15 pounds to lose. And she was always like actively trying to lose that. She's always trying to lose weight, okay. Yeah. And then like a year ago, like she started to lose the weight. That was epic. And well, she had said that, you know,

she actually wasn't doing keto anymore. She was doing macro and she had all these amazing recipes and she started selling her like course, right? Like here are my macro tips. I don't know what exactly was in the thing that you bought. Yeah, where you like weigh the food. I know what those are. She sold like a program.

A program. And you know, she, for as long as we've known her, like this kind of stubborn weight that she hadn't lost, she did, it wasn't significant loss, but it was like, I think a lot of women relate to that, especially women with kids. It's like those last 15 to 20 pounds, it like just will not go the fuck away.

Yeah. So I think her program was actually quite successful. Then she decided, and there has been like whispers about her being on Ozempic, like it's been like whispers about her being on Ozempic. Like it's not a big deal if you're on Ozempic. Just because she like lost the weight and she's still there. After all this time. But she has to switch to macros.

Right, right. It could be explained. She did then very strangely voluntarily share. It's not like she was exposed. She shared that she, as a part of her like working with this new doctor, like a couple of months ago, the macros, they switched to macros,

and they also got her on a GLP-1. She just sort of brushed up, got her on a GLP-1. The interwebs, they freaked. Now, the running line is, of course, we don't care if you're on Ozempic, but don't sell us your program. And while I agree, you can't sell a weight loss program while also being on Ozempik and just not sharing that.

It's like, no, suddenly everyone's fine with those Zempiks. We're fine with it, but you know, your program. Yeah, right. But if the program actually is designed to help you lose weight, really what's the problem? Perhaps if it worked for her, I think it might be designed to help you lose weight in conjunction with a GLP-1.

No, but you said the program, imagine people got the program and no one's losing weight. That would be the headline. But you said it's very successful. It's a very misleading way to sell something when it's about, this is the program I did. Well, it's like a major part of what you did isn't included and not being shared.

It's so Brooke Windham. I was getting really close to that. yes, it's Brooke Windham. Jackie, she's getting fucking eviscerated. She's now offered refunds for her program. Yeah, so much so that like when I was at the dinner last night with my friend Margo, who like doesn't know anything like about the internet, like she was like, did you hear about Janelle?

And I was like, I did. I don't have a horse in this race, you know, this is not my plate, literally. I don't know, I just feel like if you're buying a weight loss program from an influencer, I mean, because she is a nurse. No, and it's like, it's a good program and it's a healthy way to live, right?

Like if you were enjoying the program and like, I understand why it's deceptive, but it's not like she was like, you know, giving you calteen bars and you're gaining weight and you think you're supposed to be losing weight. Like you're following a program that's designed to be healthy. She accelerated her weight loss with GLP-1. So could you. So could you. Roe.co. Like I understand why it's deceptive and people want like complete honesty and they wanna see like your person's insides

when they're an influencer, but like she sold a program for Healthy Living, that's what you bought, you liked it until you found out something else about her. It's like, I could see why people are making it a huge deal, but if you take a step back, like it's a program for Healthy Living, like macros go off.

Shall we dive into Dear Toasters? We shall. Okay, our weekly advice segment every Tuesday, Jackie and I try to help out three swirlies in need. Feel free, if you ever need advice, write into us. These are all real submissions from real listeners. DeerToasters at gmail.com, that's the email you can write into,

or you can head over to our website, thetostpodcast.com. There's a little submission box when you scroll down it says dear toasters, it's totally anonymous. All right, ready? Let me get to the top. Okay. Hey Swirlies. I've been dating my now boyfriend

for almost a year to the day. He's wonderful. Our relationship is 30, flirty and thriving. Background, I gave up social media for Lent. So when I got back on, I was suggested a local micro influencer to follow. I discovered that it's his ex-girlfriend of seven or eight years.

We're in our late 20s, early 30s. I then come to discover my boyfriend and his ex are sharing custody of their two dogs and I had no idea. Do I confront him about this? Do I let sleeping dogs lie? I'm shockingly not rattled by this at all, but should I be on a rampage? Thanks, love ya, bye.

Your boyfriend has two dogs part-time and you didn't know and your relationship is so flirty and thriving. I don't think they live together, so I guess like. They have visits. Like the dogs are there or you're not keeping track. I don't know, somehow she was able to. You don't see dog food, you don't see a dog toilet.

No, I think she knows that he has dogs. I don't think she knows that they spend significant time with his ex-girlfriend. Have you never one time you went to his house and the dogs weren't there and you sit and say, where are the dogs? Right, like has he been actively lying or keeping this from you?

That's an important distinction. I don't love people who are comfortable just like not sharing things. It makes you feel like, well, because you're not sharing this, you're fucking your ex-girlfriend, right? Like the lie is what makes it, there's nothing wrong with sharing custody of your dogs,

but lying about it to your current girlfriend, that's what makes it, that's the crime. Of course, it's always a cover-up, never the crime. Are Tom and Katie still sharing a dog? I actually think that they are, too. That's insane. Gordo, I agree. I don't know what the right thing is,

and I've never dealt with it. I imagine it's incredibly difficult, but I think, and I feel like we just had this conversation about Caitlin Bristow, right? Cause she had all that like dog drama with both of her exes. You have to clean break it. And it's very hard

like in a marriage, like that's Tom and Katie. And I think they got those dogs together. Tom and Katie, I actually probably, I understand is probably one of the more difficult situations, like if somebody came into the relationship with the dog. But the idea that they're still getting together every few days to exchange the dogs is absurd.

More absurd than like one of them. And they have two dogs. And so I actually think the dogs should stay together. Though you could. Split them. You could split them. Separate the siblings. I wouldn't do a parent trap style.

They'll meet at the dog park one day and say. Halle. October 11th. Sisters? No Halle. Twins. But you know what? I do feel like in every relationship, like there's the person that should keep the dog.

Right. Like who do, first of all, like the dogs always gravitate towards, like there's the person that should keep the dog. Right, like who do, first of all, like the dogs always gravitate towards, like let's say something were to happen between Ben and I. I unfortunately think at this stage, like Romeo would go with Ben. Rhodia would go with Ben. Yeah, you're saying Bruno would go with you?

I'm saying Theo would go with you. Oh, oh. But Theo like literally became Ben. Yeah, Ben is like such an active parent. It's like annoying. I don't even stand a chance with these dogs. Like they love me obviously and they lay in my lap but the second Ben sits down,

they literally get up out of my lap and lay in Ben's. Yeah, I think you just have to like rip the bandaid off and you have to, it's painful, but like it requires emotional maturity that like people should acquire. So are you suggesting that this particular girl kind of demands that her boyfriend stop sharing custody? Oh no, it's not for you to demand,

it's like the girlfriend who's looking to make her way up in this world. You look crazy. But I'm just saying in general, like this is a practice that's not really healthy. It's very millennial core, it's really crazy. It's silly. But for this girl, I'm glad that you're not upset. It's really crazy. It's silly. But for this girl, I'm glad that you're not upset.

I would just be a little concerned. Any partner who's comfortable hiding things from you, it's not a great trait. So I would bring it up just for the sake of transparency. Being like, are you keeping something major from me? Your dogs don't live with you half the time? Your dogs are gay. Yeah, them, I feel like the custody situation,

it doesn't go on forever, right? It eventually fizzles out. When does it fizzle? I don't know, because Tom and Katie, I would have expected, like kind of. It should fizzle when you get a new relationship. If, like that is so crazy how much of your life you spend shuttling back and forth to get the dogs.

Like I know that's what you do with children, human beings, but like for the dogs, some people's dogs are their children, like it's their it's their life. I get it. I do. And honestly, like we're talking a big game. We're talking a big game. But like, let's say Bruno was ripped from your house, like you'd be devastated. You would, of course. Yeah, I would face my devastation. Or you would try to make it work. Especially for people who don't have kids, like it's,

why not? Unless you're on like really, really bad terms. It tethers you to the past and you need to move forward. Or if you're on really bad terms, like you can't even see this person. Well, I would say if someone did something so egregious, then you get the dogs. They don't get the dog.

Yeah. They don't get the dog. Yeah, that would make it really clear and easy. But like Katie and Tom, no one cheated. Right. They grew apart. And I think, you know, Tom just went on Katie's podcast. So like they're actually in a really good place, like friendship wise.

So I think it's fine for them to see each other, like every week. But it's hard, like it's emotional too. Do they have like a time when like they would stop doing this? I don't know. Like what if one of them gets married and... I think maybe like, you know, dogs don't live forever. Yeah.

So maybe that's like sometimes you think like until the end of the dog's life. Yeah. If they're older, but what if they're young? And then what if you do have kids and then your kids have a dog part-time? And then they have to say goodbye every few days? And your kids love the dog, like you win. But then the person's left with nothing.

And you know what? They'll have to live with that. It's devastating. It is, it is, but a kid, kid wins. So what should you do, Claudia, face your devastation? No, it's situational. It's completely situational. You can't make generalizations.

It's just prolonging an issue. But Jackie, we are getting off track from this particular girl, how do we help her? It's a fascinating conversation. Just you confront your man about this. Yes, he should not be comfortable having secrets. Speak to him about the fact that he's doing this and you didn't know, but don't try and get between

the man and his dog. Yeah, don't make issue with the fact that he shares custody. The fact that he kept this huge part of his life from you. It's a big thing, custody. Yeah. And I don't know, keep an eye on him. But how do you bring it up?

I saw your ex-girlfriend on Instagram, no. Why? Just being like, by the way, the way it happened, she didn't do anything wrong. This thing was served to me. I saw your dogs on Instagram. And do you say your dogs are gay or no? That's a good question.

Nobody wants to hear it. You have to say, ear dogs are gay. That's what you say. No, you have to talk to him about it. Like you can't get away with lying. Sorry. You have to talk to him about it. Use your judgment as to how.

Okay, we have a little interfaith drama. I'm listening. One of my best friends is getting married this summer. The man she's marrying is a total P-jom. He's Jewish. She's non-denominational Christian. The problem is that she's very against doing the hora at their wedding, even though he told her how important

it is to him and his family. She claims it would be offensive to her religion and to her family. She will not even allow her husband to do it on his own. I tried to tell her she's being absolutely ridiculous and the conversation ended up in a fight. Am I the crazy one? Is this actually offensive? Of course I don and the conversation ended up in a fight. Am I the crazy one? Is this actually offensive?

Of course I don't want it to be in a fight with her, but I also can't seem to get over this, help. Oh my God. So for those who don't know. Break them up. We'll set them up with Stitch. This is her friend, she said that her friend. Yeah, the Hora is like a dance

that's traditionally done at Jewish weddings. It's like a Jewish song. It's just like old klezmer music. You all know it, Hava, Nagila Hava. And then you put the bride and the groom up in a chair. It's like a Jewish song. It's just like old klezmer music. You all know it, Hava, Nagila Hava. And then you put, you know, the bride and the groom up in a chair. It's all very celebratory. It's really not religious.

It's more cultural. They do it like at really all Jewish weddings, no matter how religious you are. They actually do it at like non-Jewish weddings too. It's kind of become like a wedding thing, like throwing you in a chair. Yeah, you dance in a circle. It's very-

Oh, if you've seen Gossip Girl, when they go to the bar, they do it at Bar Mitzvahs too. They put Blair and Chuck in the chairs at the Bar Mitzvah. And it's just, it's done at all weddings. All Jewish weddings. Jewish weddings. Big, small, Orthodox reform.

I feel like if you're entering into an interfaith marriage, you have to be, and one person's like not converting or anything, we're gonna live, we're gonna coexist like a bumper sticker. You know, you have to be, and one person's like not converting or anything. We're gonna live, we're gonna coexist like a bumper sticker. You know, you have to be a little flexible, right? This person's like entire, you know, life philosophy is a little bit different than yours. So you have to be willing to mesh.

And I feel like the horror is such a non-offensive. If you're not willing to do the horror, you're literally gonna get nothing throughout your life. I am- It's a low, low bar, the whora. I am in love with the whora. It is my favorite part of every wedding. It is so beautiful to me.

Jews have been doing the whora at weddings for thousands of years. It means so much to me, and I don't get attached to so many customs. Things. That is my favorite one. I need them to break up. She's disgusting that you would,

and that he has to like beg to do the whore at his wedding when it's like, it's not even, it's like the, probably the most like secular thing at this point about it. Also some people also do chuppahs too because like they're just aesthetically pleasing. Pretty arch, right?

You don't realize, but getting married under like four poles that like create like a little arch is actually a Jewish thing. It's like, it's called a chuppah. But people do it now, cause it's like aesthetic. Yeah. So I think she's disgusting. If she's not gonna budge on this,

then she's not the type of partner who could be in a coexist bumper sticker relationship because this is like a no brainer. And I think that you should steal her husband. But I also have to- I don't know if you're Jewish, but you sound like you really respect the faith. It's true.

And I also have to put the onus on the man here. Like if he goes ahead and marries this piece of garbage, well then he's not the guy I thought he was. 1000%. It's such a small ask, you know, of all the, there's so many Jewish customs at a wedding. Like some of them are really extreme. Like, so for him to just ask for the horror, which is like, seriously, of all the, there's so many Jewish customs at a wedding. Like some of them are really extreme. Like, so for him to just ask for the horror,

which is like, seriously, everybody knows the horror. It's in every movie ever. It's like literally not even Jewish at this point. It's like so cultural. And there are ways that you can make it even more secular by adding like more secular music. Like you could take out the Hebrew, like you could do a blendy horror.

You could do a non-denominational, like you could make it work and she's not making it work. I don't like her. No, I hate your friend and I understand like it's not your business, but I love that you're a dog with a bone, like a dog with a bone for this. And I agree, don't let it go.

It's wrong. It's so wrong. That actually makes me sick. Oh, the horror. Oh, the horror of this situation. I feel sick. I feel sick. No, keep going.

Keep playing this episode for her. And you should like go to her soon to be husband and be like, isn't that, isn't she the worst? Yeah, no, I mean, it really doesn't bode well at the beginning of an interfaith marriage. And I actually have sympathy. I think an interfaith marriage is probably really hard when both people are deeply attached to their religion

so much so that they won't convert or give up. So it requires a great deal of compromise and listening and learning. And she just sounds like a bitch, honestly. And open mindedness. Me be open to your things, you be open to my things. I'm sure there are non-denominational Christian things about this wedding.

Has he said anything? No. You're telling me there's nothing religious from your side, right? Well then if there isn't, then why can't we do my thing? Right. Give the man his hora. Give the man his hora. I'd say play this episode for her,

but we've been so nasty to her. I don't know if she'll- I know, I think I called her a bitch. I called her disgusting. I don't know if it'll be well received. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna have the intended effect. Oops. Third and final dear toasters, hey, swirlies,

my boyfriend and I both 25 have been dating for a year. We randomly got on the topic of threesomes and he admitted that he has had a threesome and a foursome. The kicker was that both experiences were with one girl. The rest included his very close guy friends. So three bros, one girl. I was shocked to hear this as he is a pretty shy person

and I wouldn't expect it. Am I crazy to think it's weird to have threesomes and foursomes with your guy friends? I was kind of laughing when he told me and I wouldn't expect it. Am I crazy to think it's weird to have three sums and four sums with your guy friends? I was kind of laughing when he told me and I definitely asked him if he swung the other way or has been on the other team a couple of times. It isn't a deal breaker for me by any means. I'm just curious if this is common with guys.

I have guy friends as well. I'm 99% sure they would never have sexual experiences with each other. He also assured me that he wasn't hooking up with the guys, just sort of waiting his turn. Anyways, I'm laughing writing this. What are your thoughts? I mean, there's only one thing to say

and Claudia's gonna have to be the one to say it. Your husband is gay. Oh, I was gonna say something else. I do think that there are definitely threesomes with multiple guys, boyfriend, and they're 25. So I think that guys can have threesomes with a girl and it not be gay. Like they really just stand around like watching

and waiting and they don't like, you know, jerk each other off. Like I think there are non-gay male threesomes. Two men and a girl three. There are non-gay two men and a girl threesomes. There are also gay. Two men and a girl threesomes. There are bi, they're curious.

So I think it's possible, like yeah, your man has no like gay afflictions or, but the thing is, is like, it's up to you, like, right? Like is that something you're comfortable with, your preference, like, if he is, you know, doing like the more gay type of threesome. Yeah, and so if they all stood-

And she says that she wouldn't mind. Okay, if they all stood around and waited a turn, and there's like four of, three guys, one girl. Yeah. That's just like, I wouldn't want to- Sped time management. No, it's like, I wouldn't want to be with someone who would participate in something like that.

That's like- It gives an ick, the idea of like you waiting around watching your friend get fucked, like, get a life. It's like, there's just, I can't imagine unless it's Bonnie Blue, like that there's a good way that that goes down, you know? Yeah, it's kind of gross. Not to be like, you know, King Shaever.

Not to yuck his yums. No, threesomes and foursomes can be very beautiful, but you're right, if you're just like sort of waiting around for someone else. Threesomes and foursomes can be very beautiful. No, like if they're done properly, but like you're just waiting around like for your friend to be done

so you can get your turn on the Ferris wheel. Like seriously, it gives loser energy. Like someone confident and like someone confident would never participate in that. And I would just need to know like at no point in the ordeal, which probably took a while, like you didn't, did you touch a penis? Did you kiss your friend?

Did a penis touch you? I know, cause things, you know, generally a threesome, they kind of go flying. Well, not if you're like waiting in the corner for your turn. Right, like in a chair with your pants down. Like I just think the idea of it would give me the ick so much, not like that having a threesome is icky,

but like you just like sort of stood there and waited around. No, the logistics of thinking about how your man participated in this would be enough. Even if it's not a gay one. No. It's kind of worse. Would be enough for me to no longer be into him.

But based on the tone of your submission, like I wasn't getting the vibe that you were particularly bothered. And some people are more understanding than us. I wasn't getting the vibe that you were particularly bothered by any some people are more understanding than us. I wasn't getting the vibe that you were particularly bothered by any of it. I think she was more so just asking like, is it normal for your boyfriend

to have like threesomes with guys? And I wanna say, I do think that there is a world in which like there are guys who have had like threesomes, like the Bonnie Blue type where you just like wait around and that aren't gay and it's not like normal, but it's common, I wouldn't worry about it. Yeah, so I would say like, first it's like, there's two categories, like people whose boyfriends

have had threesomes and foursomes and people who haven't. So like, let's just take away the people who haven't. Let's operate with like, yeah, some people's boyfriends have had threesomes and foursomes. Now, what percentage of that group have it with predominantly male? I'd say 20%. I was gonna say 40.

Okay, let's land at 30. 30%. You've got peers. No, Dr. I Fox said yesterday the 30th percentile is actually average these days. He did say that. We were talking about like percentiles of like weight and height.

So a doctor is telling you that you are average. There's nothing more I'd want to hear. Yeah, he said 30% is the average. I said, what did 50% be the average? He said, not these days. Don't think too hard about it. Right, so congratulations. Yeah, I guess it's like that's like grading on a curve,

right? Yeah, or just like sociologically the elements, like people are getting smaller. I thought the percentiles are based on like the peers, not about, but maybe they're based on like throughout history. Evolution. History.

I have like, I seriously don't, when they talk about percentiles at the doctor's office, like my eyes glaze over, I do not understand it. And so it's the 30th percentile is the 50th percentile, then that's, I think, grading on a curve and then you would get a 50. Got it, okay, so you got a 50. Congrats. Majority rules. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. rating on a curve and then you would get a 50. Got it, okay, so you got a 50.

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