The Toast - The Almighty Jews & Their Big Podcast: Tuesday, November 7th, 2023

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a great day. Hey, Jax, how you doing? I'm doing good because I just pulled a little prank on you right before we started recording. Just a teeny tiny one. Don't spoil it. I'm going to clip it.

We actually got it on camera. It was one of the dumbest things ever and you got me. You got me. Classic stuff. Classic stuff. Classic Jax and Claude, man. Jax, how you doing? I'm doing good. I'm excited. I'm going to see you later today. Can I get a woo woo? Can I get a woo woo? Because I'm coming to New York for the rest of the week. So we'll be together in studio. OG original recipe I'm officially 31 and I had a really lovely birthday and it's over now you know that's the thing about birthdays they come and then they go but what I like about my

birthday obviously and the older that you get like the less import you place on it but it does force me to like stop in my tracks and like reflect on my life. And especially throughout the day, I keep having to be like, oh, it's my birthday. Like, let me be present. So that was very nice. A constant reminder. I couldn't do that every day, but it was really nice to do it yesterday and just to pause and be like, I'm enjoying myself.

That's nice. Yeah. Well, I loved celebrating you and Jakey yesterday. I think you like celebrating Jakey more, honestly. And update from yesterday's episode, your present has been secured. I think I crushed it, honestly. I'm excited to see what you got me. It's always like, obviously, I get a gift that's exciting,

but also to see what people think of me is exciting. Yeah. I think you're going to open this gift and be like, oh, my sister thinks highly of me. I love that for me. I think you're going to open this gift and be like, oh, my sister thinks highly of me. I love that for me. I think. I hope. I don't want to over,

you know, maybe I should underplay it. Like, no, it sucks. No, let's hype ourselves up, Turteloo. Let's get excited about things. Turteloo, Turteloo. Turteloo, Turteloo, Turteloo.

We have a gorgeous show today because you're here and I'm here and we're both supermodels. Therefore, the episode will be gorgeous. And that's just girl math for you. Girl math. What are your thoughts on the girl? Oh, wait, we need to talk about something. I'm sure you don't know this because like you're not like I'm like an insane person

who spends as much time on the Internet as I do. But we have fallen into some sort of conspiracy theory there is something being theorized about us tell me so last week there was like a story going around I don't think it was like major news I have I think I know what you're gonna say not as exciting as I thought it was gonna be like a real conspiracy theory about Travis Kelsey's publicist yeah that we're like covering for her. Yeah, okay. So the story last week that we didn't make a story out of.

Did you know about it last week? I had seen it like maybe on Instagram. I saw like a screenshot of it or maybe even it was in the news. I never clicked it. I just didn't care. I had a feeling. I had seen it obviously. And if I, sometimes there's a story that like I know you might not see.

And I always send it to you being like, I'll explain it a story that like I know you might not see and I always send it to you being like, I'll explain it to you on the toast. Yes. I didn't send me it. I didn't do that with the Travis Kelsey publicist story, because honestly, like I don't know what the result was. Like, I don't know what happened there. So I also like I just didn't think it was that crazy.

But the story was that like Travis Kelsey's publicist, it was her birthday and on her private and not private, her personal Instagram story she re-shared a photo that her friend posted of her like a collage that was like oh happy birthday Pia you're our Roman Empire and in the collage was like a bunch of pictures of Pia's life and there was a picture of Travis and Kelsey in it because she's obviously Travis's publicist and the picture of Taylor had a clown emoji over Taylor's face now we don't know who's in the picture Travis and Kelsey and I believe Pia was in the background why do you keep saying Travis and Kelsey oh my god I'm sorry Travis and Taylor Travis and Taylor and Pia's in the background okay and then she put a clown emoji over Taylor's face we don't know if Pia re-shared the story and then put the

clown emoji on top or if the clown emoji was there originally like we don't know that okay that's important factoid and then obviously the Swifties found it immediately the girl made her Instagram private like there was people were freaking out like why would her publicist do this and conspiracy theories were you know ablaze they're a PR couple whatever we didn't choose it as a story there was really no underlying like strategy there it just it didn't feel compelling yeah and we talk about Travis and Taylor every day so we can't talk about every minutiae story that comes out every day like we talk about the big ones they were spotted there was a game right you know whatever we had just been Travis and Jason for

Halloween like it was overkill I didn't I can't pick a Travis Taylor story every single day that's really why I agree it didn't even cross my mind. Should I pick a shit or not? I just breeze past it. So I guess us not choosing it led people to spiral and they were like, well, we know that Claudia knows Travis's publicist. Cause you said that. We know that Claudia knows Travis's publicist. She's probably trying to cover for Pia. I think that you were trying to cover for Pia. Okay. I think that you were because she's a dear, dear friend of yours. And you know that she was really struggling because she thinks Taylor's a clown. So I just wanted to come on here today and clear my name. I don't know Pia. I have never met Pia. And now people are going to be like, Claudia,

you're misremembering. You did meet Pia. Cody Rigsby. So Cody Rigsby was here. We were talking about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. And he mentioned that he is the same publicist as Travis remembering you did meet pia cody rigsby so cody rigsby was here we were talking about taylor swift and travis kelsey and he mentioned that he has the same publicist as travis kelsey and that that publicist was in the room with us so yeah publicist in the room with us she was not okay what yeah the publicist that came with cody rigsby was a. I don't know his name. He was a lovely fella. I'm sure he works at the same PR agency as Pia. So Pia was not here. I never met Pia. I don't really even know Cody's male publicist. I couldn't even tell you his name. He was so lovely. You just like saw him in the room. Yeah. And he brought a few people with him. He was in the room

with us. He was in the room with us. He was in the room with us. He brought his assistant, who was a toaster, a lovely gal, and this male publicist. I never met Pia. I do not know Pia. I stand by all of those statements, and we were not covering up for Pia. You guys, I have to tell you, we've been covering for Pia.

I personally was covering for Pia Because Pia doesn't like Taylor You guys are right And she didn't think anyone would see her Instagram story Because that's how it works right You never would see that And so she posted it to her public account Some of the thick headed people who might hear this

She posted it to her public account Thinking no one would ever see it Might not know that you're joking So all's that to say there is no conspiracy but I do love some of these conspiracy theories that come out about us because they really make us look so good like so important we are hobnobbing and covering up for you know the elite I love it yeah yeah like this whole PR relationship is going to fall through if the toast like puts it on blast because we're powerful Jax I don't you forget it I agree a conspiracy like that shines a nice light on us usually the conspiracy about us like give us a lot

more credit yeah then we have they're like they did this because of this. I'm like, girl, we just like woke up and were ourselves. But okay. No, it's so true. We just woke up and talked. They think we're like masterminds. They think we're so like powerful back channeling. Maybe because we're Jews. Oh my God.

Yes. It's anti-Semitism. It's like, oh, they definitely, you know, met Pia. I don't even know if Pia's Jewish. They met Pia at the weekly Jew meeting underground. No, it's like, you know, we just have this cabal that we're involved in. Oh my God. And we're like, we're controlling the media.

Jackie, it's giving anti-Semitism. I love that. It is. Yeah. The Almighty Jews and their big podcast. And their big podcast. That's a great title. The Almighty Jews and Their Big Podcast. You know, it goes against my internal policy because it's a little too long, but today I will allow it. When it's a really good title, I make Turdi make space

on her curds for the long title. When the podcast episodes are so long, like when you're searching the podcast store. Sorry. Yeah. No, the long episodes are good. When the titles are so long not only does it like look so bad on my photoshop graphics that we post every day on instagram stories and but it also like when you're scrolling through the podcast app you can't read that whole thing so you're just like not compelled to watch it we always try and have like a really catchy no it's it's more so about the photoshop card because you could read that that title's not too long that you wouldn't be able to the only thing that would be cut off is like the date which is fine yeah so I just I'm very particular about podcast titles but this one the almighty jews and their big podcast is so good so good and I will allow it

speaking of big podcasts I'm on a couple other podcasts this week you are looking for your girl yeah I'm on Dr. Fox's podcast you guys know. You guys know Dr. Fox, king of the surclage. He was my doctor throughout this pregnancy who saved my pregnancy. And he has a podcast for women's health. So I did two episodes with him. The first one came out yesterday. And it's all about me and my story. You know, like he didn't know I was a canceled person.

Like, yeah. So I was like just telling our story. The fact that there are people who walk this earth and you know what's so funny is like I was thinking this the other day I think because I was listening to reputation era and this just happens all the time we always talk about this like when somebody gets canceled it is the biggest deal in the world for about an hour it is depending on how bad it is ours was like really like three four days yeah nothing else would happen in the world until I think it was like the Oscars that weekend no I know who it was and even though he was canceled for doing something

bad I will always think of him fondly because he finally cycled us out of the news cycle who Mario Batali inappropriate like workplace behavior at his restaurants yeah I was just I was grateful for the distraction I didn't know that we crossed paths on the cancellation timeline we did on the trail but I was thinking about this the other day because like remember in that whole Taylor Swift video like it was so crazy like yeah literally who cares like it was so dumb and I was thinking like I can't believe she just she took all that time off and then this big album and it was like what was the crime she was canceled for and it was like this stupid video like who fucking cares and that happens all the time like in hindsight you realize how stupid it was and I feel like for us I had the same experience like now I look back on it and I'm like oh my god

like really our tweets like get a grip yeah but in that moment I was like I should go to jail like for life that's how people really made me feel I was like I am the worst person like seriously I should be I should be shot yeah that's how I felt and it's by the way it's so consistent like that really because you know who I'm feeling that with like because she's been really slowly I think very strategically like making a comeback is Lizzo huh and I'm like wait what was it again like it's just no matter what happens like that's the cycle unless you do something like hella illegal like Chris Brown like goodbye forever like yeah but I'm talking about like you know acting inappropriate or like nothing criminal acting inappropriate it's like we always say like saying

things and doing things so the acting inappropriate is more of a doing yeah and um but a lot of these like thought crimes right it's just like so crazy in hindsight and the Lizzo stuff was like on the sexual assault allegations spectrum it was on the spectrum it's it's I think it's like up for debate as to what if what she did is like a crime. Yeah, well, they're suing her. Well, they're suing her. But she's like been posting on TikTok. She's been posting like random things on TikTok.

I think she's, you know, slowly climbing her way out of it. Yeah, I saw like people were writing up her Halloween costume. I was like, oh, so we're just casually engaging with Lizzo again. Yeah, yeah. And that happens sometimes. I feel like, you know, who's been really interesting? Ansel Elgort. Okay.

Because Ansel Elgort was like fully accused of rape. And then like a year later, nobody cared. Ralph Lauren, face of Ralph Lauren, West Side Story, went to the Oscars. I don't think it's fair to say nobody cared because I feel like his name is tarnished well so by the way story didn't even get like press because he was in it yeah that's true I don't think nobody cared no no I felt like there he took time off and then came back and like there wasn't as much of conversation about it as there should have been but now I feel like he's really like done why now done no nothing I just feel like he tried for the comeback and like maybe maybe it didn't work because now I feel like I've like

laid him to rest here lies Ansel right rip here lies Shannon like I think I think it's having like a resurgence. Like I think we're done with him. I haven't seen him around. Right. I haven't seen him. But there was like a moment in time where he was like back hobnobbing with celebs. He was trying. Right.

Yeah. So just interesting. Yeah, it is. It's always, you know, we could wax poetic about cancel culture, the variations, the variations. No, and the scale of which, you know, who's like the current, the cancellation of the week, which like, it's just reading so off to me. Who?

Ramona. Oh, really? Yeah. She's like, you know, she was at a Bravo con. She got fired from her Douglas Elliman job. Dorinda saying, you know, speaking out against like that she used a slur in this message to the page six reporter. But like we read the message, she did not use a slur.

Yeah, no, she definitely wasn't as, you know, buttoned up and PC as everyone would like her to be. But she wasn't, you know, she was trying to reference something and she's like an older person and like was texting. But she still didn't use the word. Right, right, right. I know, and I think the word is

so bad but there's definitely a difference between using the slur you know uh what's the word I'm looking for um intention like targeted targeting like a person of color versus trying to reference versus speaking about the word but even though she was speaking about the word she didn't even say the word while she was speaking about the word, she didn't even say the word while she was speaking about the word. No. And Andy was actually asked about it quite a bit at BravoCon. Like his Ask Andy panel and then on the carpet. And he clearly had a memorized two lines about it because he kept saying, I think we made the right call. But if it was the right call, then it should have been the right call when she said it.

When it happened. And I just feel like she's like taking, she's falling on the sword for that whole article. And it just, why now? Why Ramona now after like 10 years, more than 10 years of bad behavior now? No, it's true. There was like very little fallout from that Vanity Fair article

when it came to like executives and people. It's all on Ramona. At the production companies who like made this sort of environment. It's all on Ramona. At the production companies who like made this sort of environment. It's all on Ramona. That's true. Yeah. It's just, it's odd.

It is odd. I also feel like you can't keep a Ramona singer down. Yeah. I feel like every couple of years, there's like this. She went through a really bad period. I don't even remember what she had done, but I just remember it was bad. was after black Shabbat because that was bad that was bad

that was really bad that was bad I feel like that story that she was telling about like being picked on was referenced in Vanity Fair again yes that she got called a shiksa yeah yeah she was telling it again. And I just want to say as a Jewess, I don't think there's a greater honor than being called a shiksa because being called a shiksa like means you're beautiful. Like. Yeah. A shiksa goddess.

Like a shiksa is a Yiddish word for just like a non-Jewish woman. But when people use it. But you don't say it about an ugly woman. No. When you reference it, it's like, oh, this shiksa. Like it's like, oh, this shiksa. It's like, oh, this beautiful temptress of the non-Jewish faith. It really is.

No one's ever going to call me a shiksa. Not even because I'm not a non-Jew. It's just a vibe. It's a vibe. And it's a beautiful, positive vibe, yeah. It's a beautiful, positive vibe. That's your Yiddish lesson for the day. Yeah.

Shiksa, not a bad word. No. No. So, here we are. How did we get here? How did we get out? I think we have to sing. Oh, I know. Dr. Fox's podcast.

Oh. No. He didn't know I was a canceled person. Yeah. So the first episode that dropped yesterday was all about me. It was perfect episode to drop on my birthday. Like here's a little bio about your girl. And then next week my second episode drops and it's all about my pregnancy.

Right. So from Dr. Fox's point of view. Because he was like don't you want to know what I thought of you? Like how you were handling it? Did he call the episode Between the Legs? No. He said what does the fox say? Is that what he said?

No, I don't know what it's called. It didn't come out yet. But he could call his podcast Betwixt the Legs. Yeah, no, because that's like his POV. You know, because he was saying on our podcast, because we're constantly pod swapping with our doctors. He was saying that his name of his podcast stinks because it's a mouthful, The Healthful

Woman. I just want to say, I love Dr. Fox, would lay my life out on the line for him. It's one of the worst names for a podcast of all time. I like it. I feel like it sums up what his podcast is about. It's about healthfulness in women. It's a lot about pregnancy stuff, but just a lot of different conditions in general with a lot of different doctors and experts. And it's a great resource for women. It was what I listened to on the plane to New York when I was going to get my first surclage I listened to his episode about surclages so I could like have a modicum of understanding of what was going to be happening to me he should have called it the quiet woman oh no I think he should have he should call it what does the pop fox say what does the fox wait pop fox no no i misspoke okay oh what does the fox say i completely agree

i'll text him yeah let him know what does the fox say um so should we yeah i think that we should have a really busy day ahead of me and we circled the drain enough here. Yep. So without further ado about the podcast that I'm on this week, here are the Fast Five Stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five Stories that you need to know were brought to you by Blue Nile. I have never heard anyone complain about receiving jewelry as a gift.

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So Megan Fox has released a book of poems called Pretty Boys Are Poisonous and it is her first book. It debuts today and it's taking inspiration from her own life as well as her imagination. She said, quote, it comes from a lot of places. Some of it is literal

while other parts are allegorical. Some poems contain a Grimm's fairy tale type element and others serve the same purpose as memes in online culture. All of it is something women can relate to. She said she turned to writing her whole life after finding an outlet that her performing career never provided. She said acting doesn't really allow me to express myself fully in the way writing does because I'm reading someone else's words under someone else's direction. Poetry gives me a space to experience some catharsis through art.

Pretty Boys Are Poisonous explores toxic dynamics among other topics. As she explains, relationships are complicated. This is so awesome. Yeah, would you like to hear a poem? Okay. It's called A Beautiful Boy is a Deadly Drug. This is like so, you know, like I'm so not into this vibe.

I feel like it's very you know MGK and Megan it's very like Courtney and Travis like the drinking of the blood the licking of the tongues it's very rocker it's very punk it's so not me I'm so uninterested but please yes read the poem but it's weird to me because I feel like it can't really be that much about MGK because like she's still with him so if he if he's poisonous no I'm not saying the poems are about him I'm saying that aesthetic that like they have together you know blood on fire wolf blood it packed you know like twin that chess yeah twin flames yeah um a beautiful boy is a deadly drug by Megan Fox you are an addiction that no amount of prayers will ever cure my cries for relief floating unheard into the ether. You are

killing me but my heart won't give you up. This thread through our past lives tightly wound around my neck. Siphoning my breath to fill your lungs. My hands are bleeding from trying to free myself. You offer me a smile content to steal my life knowing at least this way no one else will ever have me. So it seems as though the poems don't rhyme. And for me, that's a huge poetry faux pas. And I think I know why you chose this story, because you absolutely have to share the poem you received yesterday. Oh, yeah. Such a great segue and a positive turn for this story.

Yeah. Because Dana, my best friend Dana, you guys know her. I love her. She's a redhead. She writes me a poem for my birthday every year. And it's like a really cute thing. I think she's been doing it maybe since the year we met. Does she still post it on your Facebook wall?

She only posted on my Facebook wall. She hasn't posted anywhere else. Literally, it did not get one like yesterday because I have six Facebook friends. Actually, yeah, no. Claudia and I share a Facebook. I appreciate the consistency and like the nod to, you know, Facebook memorabilia. Yeah. But it needs to be seen and it needs to be heard.

So we need to share it. So I told her like I was going to post it to my Instagram because like it's so amazing. The world should see it. So here's the poem Dana wrote for my birthday. She writes it every year and it's about my year. Here we are. Here. How are we here? Oh my God. Sorry. Sorry. Excuse me, Turdy Lo. Starting again. Sorry, Dana. How are we here another year around the sun? You know the drill. Jackie O turns 31. 2023 started strong. The party full of cheer at the clubhouse in Florida lit on New Year's.

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She should write a book of poems. Now that's a poem. Now that's a poem. that's a poem I feel about poetry the same way I feel about children's book if it ain't rhyming I'm buying but we've also said poetry is incredibly personal so I think to Megan Fox like this is very personal and I I wish her all of the luck in the world and it's clear you know she's put her heart and soul and her feelings into this book of poems and you know what I like a celebrity doing new things we don't often get the most beautiful woman in the world writing a book of poems yeah she could have written a book of short stories we get that a lot

we do I happen to love a book of short stories if the stories are good and by the way they have to be funny I don't know why I don't want to read a short story that's not funny oh I didn't know people wrote books of short stories that weren't hysterical. Like that's the only shit I read. That's the only shit you read. But like, no, you could have any kind of short story. Tragic. No, not interested.

The best book of short stories is Gary Gennetti. Like hands down. Tom Segura. You know what? I actually was like halfway through Tom Segura. It's one of those books that I um just leave downloaded on my kindle for like when I'm on an airplane and I'm running like I don't have a book to read yeah I didn't feel so compelled to finish it like in one sitting but it's nice to always be like

paging through but I also like I don't know Tom Segura like I don't follow him I don't listen to his podcast like I know him as a he's like a famous comedian but like I know Gary Gennetti like I follow him and I know his husband and I know his life and and so there's like a connection there yeah but I imagine if you're like a really big Tom Segura fan it's like the best book I didn't know him really except I knew his wife from her Netflix special I didn't really know him other than like a podcaster two bears one cave uh but that was like enough for me to read his book and appreciate it and I learned a lot about him it's very funny also a book of short stories that I read I think it's called new teeth and it's a book of short stories about parenthood so if you're a

new parent I would recommend that it was really funny I keep trying to get you to read you I keep trying to get you to read this one short story from the book I gave up I've literally never heard you mention it in the beast oh that does sound familiar. Yeah, it was really funny. I feel like that meme, you know, that meme of like when someone's trying to convince their friends to watch Friends and it's like, come on, bro. It's so funny. They pick up a couch and yell pivot. It's so funny. It is funny.

Pivot. It's funny. Come on, man. I'll read that short story for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll send it your way. Actually, I i'll send it your way actually i can't send it your way i need to like trap you in a room with my kindle yeah yeah um okay congrats megan mazotov congrats dana on the best poem ever um we'll see what she's got in store for us next

year you're right poetry is so personal yeah but that's like my vibe is like Dana's poetry. Me too. And the Cameron and Counselor. That's poetry. I also love a haiku. Cameron and Counselor is poetry. 100%. Am I a poet? The iambic pentameter is there. So am I a poet? And you didn't even know it. I didn't even know it. Are you ready for our next story? I really am. Sabrina Carpenter is in some trouble with the Brooklyn Catholic Church. Yeah, did you see this story?

Oh, I did. A Brooklyn Catholic Church is forced to re-bless its altar after pop singer Sabrina Carpenter filmed a racy music video at the century-old site. A New York bishop has taken action against a parish that allowed pop star Sabrina Carpenter to shoot a controversial music video at the century-old site. A New York bishop has taken action against a parish that allowed pop star Sabrina Carpenter to shoot a controversial music video in a century-old Brooklyn church.

Last week, Brooklyn bishop Father Robert Brennan criticized her video for her song Feather, which was filmed at the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary Church. In the video, she wears exclusively racy outfits and watches several, as she watches several men who wronged her die at one point she struts into the church to attend a funeral for the dead men where she

moves through a number of pastel coffins one of which includes the inscription rip bitch the local bishop was horrified by the contents of the video and made known his displeasure with the local parish that failed to prevent its filming. His statement read, the parish did not follow diocesan policy regarding the filming on church property, which includes a review of the scenes and script. The parish first claimed that the production company failed to accurately represent the video content, but an investigation found that the documents given to the parish provided sufficient description of inappropriate behavior unsuitable for a church sanctuary. Due to the last...

I'm less interested in the paperwork. The church politics? Oh, yeah. I'm less interested in who to blame and more so just like... I hate to sound like such a grandma, and I'm not even like a church goer, but like if somebody did this in a shul, like I would be horrified. Like some things are sacred. And like I love a racy music video, like go for it.

But I think like if she had done this like on a set that looked like a church, like I still think it would be disrespectful. It's so much worse that this is like a centuries old facility. And you know what like I like I hate to be like such like a like a I feel like I'm like a narc no no what's who are the like who are the people who are always protesting like west like it's a west borough baptist church I hate to sound like a protester from the west borough baptist church but like maybe like let's like stop being like's stop being racy and doing everything like Christian. Like religious like this.

It's disrespectful to the community. But I also think it's disrespectful to good Christians to say that it's a take that only the Westboro Baptist Church might have. That's fair. I think a lot of people would feel this way. And this happens a bunch. Megan Fox, aforementioned Megan Fox,

is constantly desecrating religions um yeah I think there's two things one can it can it stop being like cool to like literally dance on graves and be sacrilegious two though at first I saw that the church said they kind of duped us and didn't tell us what the music video was going to be and I was like oh that's shady you're like coming into their place of worship and under false pretenses but they put forth documents saying like hey rip bitch like yeah no by the way these are going to get crazy it's also on the church they are ahead of a centuries-old church it's not a it's not like Sabrina's prerogative to make sure that the church is looked at in the best light.

So I think it's twofold here. And like the church should have read through the documents. Like you don't want people dancing on the altar. Then say no. Of course. Like if we had to find blame, like the production company and Sabrina didn't do anything wrong in terms of like logistics and clearance. But it's like this larger conversation about like how religion is becoming like an aesthetic and more often than not like it's disrespectful and it's like racy yeah but I feel like okay when you say it's like an aesthetic it also kind of reminds me of um like Courtney's wedding there

was a lot of um like catholic imagery and some people were offended by that oh were they that I don't like the it was a wedding yeah and also to me that. Oh, were they? That I don't know. Like the veil. It was a wedding. Yeah, and also to me, that's like respect, like they have the utmost respect for it. Like the Virgin Mary was on her veil. Yeah, what's wrong with that? I don't know.

I think people weren't into it. But that's not racy. It's a wedding. I feel like a wedding is where you put like all of your religious energy. Yeah, I'm just saying like that's one. Like, so where it says an aesthetic, I don't think it's always necessarily a negative thing.

If it's like done by people who have respect for their religion and are probably practicing that religion. Right. But when it's done like this, it's, it's wrong. Yeah. No.

Cause I just think like if they were in a synagogue and they were like rabbis and stuff and like, you're in a racy dress, like would be horrified horrified so like I have to put myself in someone else's shoes like I I don't think it's cool and I think like the the community if there's outrage like you know what I understand it it's just not necessary and furthermore if she really felt like this was the vibe for her music video and she couldn't you know go in another direction she should have made a set of a church instead of actually like desecrating a historical landmark I am in agreement all that to say nobody on the planet is making better music than Sabrina Carpenter right now I feel like a feather when you man

like so good yeah that's the song for the music yeah no I know and then of course he's a lot of it I'm talking nonsense obsessed love the music I just think the direction could have been different yeah I think it's easy to get carried away I think in Hollywood there's not a lot of boundaries for anything and you don't have people around you who are like hey yikes not our best idea. We're not going to like be canceled and never work again for this, but it's a little tasteless. Yeah, yeah, I agree.

This isn't like a criminal offense, but it's just like meh. However, other argument, like maybe they want to push the envelope. Some people want to push the envelope. They want to get the diocese involved. Yeah, and maybe it's like a larger statement on religion I don't think that's what's going on here yeah but there are people who like you know they wade into this sort of controversy like yeah ha think about right chew on that right yeah they're trying to make you think yeah I don't think that's what Sabrina was doing I think she

was just trying to like trash her exes and yeah the wrong venue yeah also we don't know how much involvement she had in the you know location scouting for sure but like you're up there dancing on the altar like no no it's gotta feel funny you walk into like this ancient church with all this you know stained glass window and you're in like a bikini I would feel weird but maybe I'm different but you never know maybe the record label she just doesn't feel empowered to speak out like all this money has been spent on the that's actually also a definite possibility she's up there dancing in her undies on the altar and she's feeling bad yeah we don't know what she's going through at this time no we don't

so important to think about all possibilities here agreed agreed are you ready for our next story yeah little fashion news because the cfda awards wait was this third or fourth third don't worry i know that before the fourth you have something that you need to say. I have to expel myself. Yeah. Our third story before Tootie expels herself. The CFDA awards were last night. Oh, yeah. Like, I don't remember a time where, like, the CFDA awards were, like, maybe it's because with SAG, like, there's so little going on.

But I felt like it was, like, an especially fabulous, like, attention-seeking evening. I feel that way as well. I also think maybe it's because it's in New York I feel like in the past it's like in LA or something really I feel like it's actually like such a classic New York event you know what there's a really great search engine where we can oh what's it called it's called google.com oh wait 2000 google google Michael Google I Jackie I think you're confusing it with LACMA which also was this week

I'm certainly confusing it with that's for damn sure LACMA which is I want to say that LA country music awards no it's the Los Angeles like community of arts okay yeah last year was at Casa Cipriani yeah it's a New York. You're confusing it with LACMA. I am confusing it with LACMA. I can accept that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, and the year before it was at the Pool and Grill. Okay, I stand corrected.

Anyways, CFDA Awards last night, the Oscars of Fashion, the stars came out in full force. Anne Hathaway hosted. Serena Williams won an award, as did... She looked fabulous. Everyone really looked quite lovely. Yeah it's like a clown free event. Like I feel like sometimes people show up places like trying to like the Grammys or the Oscars like trying to make a statement do the most get attention. And I feel like a lot of times they end up just you look like clowns. But CFDA is like

really high fashion like no one's no one's messing around yeah it's a clown free event even the Met Gala gets a little I was just gonna say that because it's because it's like a themed costume gala let's not forget right uh so Kim was there Anne Hathaway Gwyneth Paltrow Serena Williams Demi Moore Vanessa Hudgens she's a funny one because she's always at the high class events she really sneaks in there she's got a great publicist I have to imagine just like I'm gonna snag an invitation for my girl Vanessa yeah I don't know like what strategy like got her there but I admire it deeply yeah yeah go Vanessa another another cancellation that seemed like a big deal it's so true question mark exclamation point so yeah everyone looked nice wait so there was a few honorable

mentions I want to say Morgan Stewart was there she looked just radiant I think one of my best dressed is Serena Williams she looked fabulous Gwyneth Paltrow got an award. We love goop fashion. And what was the last? Oh, you love to see influencers out here shaking their thing. Danielle Bernstein was invited to her first award. She went with an Israeli designer, made like a big statement about bringing the hostages home. Slay.

She looked great. Slay. Slay. So it's a good night for fashion yeah no that's like a fabulous event like i wouldn't mind being invited to like i know literally look at my outfit i'm wearing leggings and socks like it's not a possibility but i feel like that's actually like a really cool event like i feel like a lot of events look cool and they're like not fun or there's really not a lot going on i feel like that's an event because we don't really see a

lot that actually is like fun you think fun yeah I don't know about fun but definitely like cool prestigious not a bunch of losers in sight right right hard to get an invite not a loser in sight I haven't looked at all the red carpet looks just like the hot the you know the biggest name highlights um I really I liked Anne Hathaway's look too. I thought she looked really nice. Yeah, no, it was a high class affair. Yeah, so I hope everyone had a good time and drank awesome shooters and listened to awesome music

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cookware made modern thank you Latcher you're welcome Jacqui our next story a little romance news uh Chase Stokes says he cried the whole time during Kelsey Ballerini's first headlining show in her hometown. I chose this story because we haven't spoken about these two in a while. We haven't. And we're due for an update. So Chase Stokes gave us one at the CFDA Fashion Awards red carpet. He spoke to People Magazine and said what it was like seeing her perform in her hometown of Mascot, Tennessee. He said, I'm still recouping my hearing from how loud it was for her to go back to her hometown

and to sell out an arena like that stage. It was the coolest thing. I cried the whole time. He then shared how special it was to see her accomplish her dreams in front of her family. No, these two are just like quietly living. Quietly going the distance. Like this is not just like a rebound relationship anymore no I think a lot of people thought maybe like you see the divorce and it might have been like to start

but sometimes like you rebound with the one and now that enough time has passed I can officially make this story about myself because I was with Kelsey Ballerini uh the night of or maybe the night before her first date with Chase and she was like I'm actually going out with someone I'm like kind of nervous I'm like who and she with Chase. And she was like, I'm actually going out with someone. I'm kind of nervous. I'm like, who? And she's like, you really can't tell anyone. I'm like, oh, okay. Chase Stokes.

I'm like, wait, obsessed. So not to be so annoying like I knew before everyone else. And then I had a text from her because we were texting after. And I was like, oh, my God, let me know how the date goes. And she was like, yeah, so excited, like nervous. Like not to make everything about myself, but I was pretty much there. And I'm like kind of the reason they're together. I agree.

So they should thank you for this. and I actually saw her recently at dinner and she was like wait like I haven't seen you since my first date with Chase and I'm like yes so she remembers too that I was like an integral part okay good I'm glad it's a mutual it's not just like no no by the way I wouldn't say that she literally I ran into her at polar bar and she was like by the way like you were like she said it she said it okay she recognized you yeah yeah okay that's cool then you're part of the herstory of this couple I'm part I'm part of the horse yeah and by the way I just want to say like obsessed like I feel like they're not like annoying and they just like share their lives, but not in a way that's like, hey, look at me. Yeah.

So they're like they're not private per se because they like share photos and they like take Instagram stories together and they take trips. But it's not like an annoying, thirsty way. I totally agree. Which makes me think it's legit. It's the perfect amount. And they support each other like he's going to her shows and crying. And well, and that's like why everyone's obsessed, because so much of the what Kelsey shared

about her divorce through her album and then when she went on the Call Her Daddy, like was that there was a weirdness because like of her success and there wasn't like a huge amount of support. And, you know, he didn't take the flight to come to the show. And so the fact that Chase is at so many shows is actually impressive when he has like a career of his own. Yeah. I feel like his career with OBX is like seasonal you know they film and then they don't right and that

probably works for her yeah and she he like does like a lot of offline work like not offline online work like he's like a brand ambassador for armani and that's like work you know that you can do from anywhere yeah he's an influencer he's doing it from the road yeah so these two are going strong I feel like we're almost coming up on a year of we are probably no January it was January because that's when when I was there we were at a party and I saw her okay well we'll keep you posted about these two I wonder if she wants to get married again soon yeah or if she's like scarred yeah but I feel like once you go into it and like everything goes wrong you can go into it again because you're equipped right right so you don't have

to like write it off forever right you just know like the paperwork right and what you're looking for but they're also really young like I feel like I could see them dating for like three years he's 31 and she's 30 if she hadn't been like married young I would say like they're gonna get married but now I don't know how she feels about the institution considering even before Morgan like she wasn't really about it right she said that on her podcast because she's like a child of divorce and she's she's a child of divorce who's like some people like their parents divorce like really affects their love life and like their adult relationships and some people I feel like it doesn't like for me it doesn't no maybe it's because our dad dropped dead

are you ready for our fifth and final story a little more romance news I feel like this is like a story that came out of BravoCon that I didn't see until this morning and not enough people are talking about so it's the final story I'm just feeling kind of like emotional about it you know it's like the final story no but it should make you feel good because it's the last story that we're gonna do separate it's something unpredictable but in the end it's right I hope you had the time of your life the next story that we discuss together we will be together think about it that way are we gonna hang out tonight or you can think you're gonna be tired no um I think I'll be good okay cool yeah but the final story bravo con news not enough people are talking about it that way. Are we going to hang out tonight or you can think you're going to be tired? No, I think I'll be good. Okay, cool.

But the final story, BravoCon news. Not enough people are talking about it. Golnessa from Shaz of Sunset wants to date hot Mauricio Umansky after his split from Kyle Richards. Oh, wow. Gigi from Shaz of Sunset is interested in pursuing Mauricio Umansky amid his separation from Kyle Richards. She told us weekly at BravoCon, I wouldn't mind going on a date with Mauricio,

just putting it out there. Yeah, he's hot. And to that I say, get in line, bitch. Okay. Oh, for sure. But like that's so- I'm sure- It's interesting to me when Bravo shows crossover,

that's not like housewives, housewives. Like I think of like Shadows of Sunset with like Vanderpump World's Southern Charm. But like no, Gigi could go for a former house husband. No, by the way, it's so true. Cause I think there's like a younger generation of Bravo shows, which includes like, no, Gigi could go for a former house husband. No, by the way, it's so true. Because I think there's like a younger generation of Bravo shows, which includes like Summer House, Winter House, Shazza Sunset, Southern Charm, Vanderpump Rules.

But when you get down to brass tacks, some of those cast members are older than those unreal housewives. Yeah, no, I just think of them as like the younger generation. And then the housewives are obviously like the older, like OG. But that's literally not even true. Like Shep is the same age as like some of the house husbands. Yeah. He just acts like a teenager.

That's why we think of him so young. Yeah. But like Kyle Cook is older than Aaron Leachie. Wow. Wow. And that puts things into perspective. So Mauricio is 53 and Gigi's 41. Age appropriate.

We stand. Yeah. But he's like holding hands with his dancing partner and maybe getting back together with his wife. No, by the way, another story that came out of BravoCon, Kyle like was on the red carpet and just like accidentally said, and nobody caught it until after. She just said like this divorce.

Like she said D. Damn. D for damn. And I have to say, I really do like mauricio's dating his partner even though they said like they weren't but like i don't hold hands i barely hold hands like with my husband like it's a very intimate thing it's extremely intimate yeah because like clammy so unless you're at like a really crowded protest and you need to like you know lock hands to get through. Yeah there's really no reason when there's no one around you physically to be holding hands with another person of the opposite sex. Yeah I'm not a big hand holder. I'm a like I'm

a linker. I like to link elbows. Oh I'm not a linker. I like that support. Yeah now that I think we do that more than hold hands oh you mean with your husband I thought you meant like with other people oh even with other people I feel I feel like I'm always like walking and leaning on someone you know I I don't love holding hands not because of the intimacy like it's fucking annoying like I need my hands it's also for me a hygiene thing I know that it is for you but I like a link do you hold hands? Well, that's what I'm thinking. We do hold hands. I don't love it.

I prefer like to put my arm around his like waist. Oh, interesting. He hates that. He thinks it's hard to walk. Yeah, that is hard. You have to be like in lockstep, like a couple synchronized swimmers. I don't mind putting forth the extra effort,

but my husband does. It's like left, left. Right, left, right, left. Yeah. Yeah, I like a link. So there's definitely something going on between the two of them. And I can't lie, I don't hate, you know,

Golden Nessa and Mauricio, but I feel like Mauricio, if and when he, you know, dates and the divorce is final, I don't think he'll be dipping his toe in the Bravo universe. I don't feel like he's that type of house husband. No, I don't think so either. But as you like to remind us, Shazza is no longer on, so.

Right, but they're still part of the Bravo universe, which I'd love to remind you of. Which you love to remind me of. So yeah, I guess he's with the partner. Who do you think is the most eligible house husband? Because Mauricio is definitely up there. Single or taken? No.

Any. I have to like sit down with a list of them. Probably someone from New Jersey. Yeah. I was going to say like Evan Gold. I mean, I think it's more personal. It's so personal for me,

obviously like Evan Goldschneider, Jewish King, like successful, has a job, obsessed. Mauricio Umansky, of course Jewish like so mine's very personal yeah Evan Goldschneider Frank Catania yeah I think so for me it's obviously

about looks he's engaged to Britney yeah love Joe Benigno I mean would lay my life out on the line for Jersey Bill Aiden even though he doesn't seem like the best husband to Jennifer. No, he doesn't. But he's rich and he's funny and cute. So yeah. Yeah.

I don't know if I would go for Joe Warga. Because there's really only room in my relationship for one star and it's me. I agree. It's not because

I need to be a star, but it's just it's too much for me. Like I like a bit of quiet. I like a peaceful environment. Louie is going to be a star. But it's just. It's too much for me. Like I like a bit of quiet. I like a peaceful environment. Louis is going to be a big fat no. Pauly. Seems nice.

I don't know him. He seems nice. But I don't know him enough. I agree. Even though he was on my flight to BravoCon. Jeff Fessler. You know. He's not really on the show.

But I did sit next to him at this dinner. At BravoCon. And he's really shy. And like really sweet. Yeah, so really most of the Jersey men. But he has a wife who's like the big personality. And he definitely like lets her shine. And I love that in a man.

Yeah, that's like Joe Benigno too. Right. Let's go through. Like Beverly Hills husbands. PK. I like PK. I like PK too. Jewish King. I do feel like there's a like PK too, Jewish King.

I do feel like there's a little bit too much uncertainty in the finances for me to choose him. Yeah, no, he wouldn't be like my number one, but he would definitely be in the bucket of, like if I have a yes bucket or a no bucket, he would be in my bucket of yes. I just, I don't know how long, like when is the ax gonna fall on the Kemsley finances?

Like every year there's a story about them I just heard that he owed like two million dollars to a casino like then there was the guy who apparently like attacked Dorit in the Bahamas for owing them money like there are all these stories they never become a storyline and they never actually come to fruition like she's still you know buying the clothes and living the life like either it's all fake or something major has to happen I just feel like because it's all fake or something major has to happen. I just feel like because it hasn't happened, it's not going to happen. Because it would have happened.

It's insane. She's been on the show for so long. Like, it's been public. Like, their life has been public for a while. I feel like something would have happened. By the way, before the scandal, I would have put Tom Girardi in my bucket. Like, supportive, rich king. What we thought he was.

What we thought we knew. Yeah. Ray Huger. Yes, bucket. What we thought he was. What we thought we knew. Ray Huger. Yes, Bucket. A thousand percent. Yes. Juan Dixon. No.

Correct. Jamal Bryant. No. No. Michael Darby. No. Chris Samuels. Yes.

Oh. Oh. Chris Samuels is top two. Yeah. Because he's PJM Energy and he's so wealthy. Chris Samuels, yes. What's Candace's husband's name? Chris.

No. He's a little too cool for school, you know? Yeah. Terry Dubrow. This is a fun game. Terry Dubrow. 1,000. Terry Dubrow game Terry Dubrow 1000 Terry Dubrow top five Shane Simpson top five he's deeply misunderstood he's deeply misunderstood they're so funny there are certain franchises that have like no husbands I know like

real roni regular original and Tom D'Agostino. Let's go Rony new. Abe, top three. I only saw two episodes. Who else has a husband? Oh, Povet, love. He's in my yes bucket, but I wouldn't marry him. He's just not my type, but he's a pijam. Psy's husband, I can't get a read on him.

He's really in the middle for me. Is that the only other husband? Jenna, Abe. Yeah, I think that's it. We could go to Miami. read on him he's really in the middle for me uh is that the only other husband jenna abe yeah i think that's it we could go to miami oh we could go to miami complex dynamics at one point in time lenny hoxie would have been top of the list now he's top of the no list he's the shit on my show i hate him yeah uh larsa's oh og husband would love and current boyfriend it's a little weird i know but like he went to bravo con with her they're so serious no i think they have a podcast together they do yeah michael jordan's son yeah he's literally our age how would you feel if your father was

marrying someone your age alexia's new husband yes oh todd yeah you know he whipped that kid into shape he needed it yeah he needed it actually love him um oh marisol is married but he's steve he's never on the show he's new we don't know him yeah gertie's husband seems great he's a firefighter oh obsessed oh other news out of bravo kind of like i feel like not enough people talk about miami and actually recently saw ratings for it It was in the 300,000 So it's really not like a big franchise But Gertie was diagnosed with cancer And she's fully bald

And at BravoCon she announced that she's cancer free Yay It was just a fabulous story that like no one's talking about Oh that's great I'm sure it'll be on this season I don't know if this season has premiered yet But also Martina has cancer too oh yes I guess I would consider Martina a house wife husband wife partner um house partner 1000% in the yes bucket in the yes bucket she is a no-nonsense kind of gal obsessed she's extremely

wealthy yeah and she lets Julia do whatever the fuck she wants with her I know it's like obsessed but I do think that that's gonna stop soon I feel like they were I didn't finish the last season but they like we're having troubles because Julia was just kind of all over the place and Martina deserves better yeah no like you could let your spouse do whatever you want like within reason and I feel like Julia was like towing on the line of disrespect yeah like with Adriana and she was also being annoying. Like she was always complaining. Which is her worst crime. Which is her worst crime. Other franchises. Dallas has good husbands when it was on.

Oh my God. Throwback. Loved Stephanie Holman's husband. Loved Court Westcott. Good man. Good man. D'Andra's husband. Top five.

D'Andra's husband. We love a military man. Yep. They had good husbands. We love a military man. Yep. They had good husbands, you're right. Yeah. What other franchises? Atlanta. Todd.

Greg. Greg. Rest in peace. That's like such a crazy thing. I know. What other franchises are there? I feel like there's like 10 more. Oh, Salt Lake City.

Yeah. I like Meredith Marks' more. Oh, Salt Lake City. Yeah. I like Meredith Marks' husband. He would go in my bucket, mostly because he's Jewish. I like Lisa Barlow's husband. Yeah. Heather Gate is not married. Whitney's husband. He's a funny egg.

He seems nice. He's really supportive. Yeah, I think he's going to go in my no bucket. He's going to go in my middle with that other guy from Roni. And you know what? There was a time where Coach Cha would have been in my yes. Yeah, but no. He had a good head on his shoulders,

but we didn't know what lied beneath the head. We didn't know anything. Yeah. That's a fun game to play. I feel like, are there more franch game to play. I feel like, are there more franchises? No, I feel like we hit them all.

Okay. That's our show. There's going to be like one that we completely forgot and people are going to be like. No. We did OC. We did New York.

I'm just saying. We did New Jersey. We did LA. We did Beverly Hills. we did Potomac we did Atlanta we did Salt Lake City yeah oh Dubai we didn't watch oh yeah but that's like there's a bunch of international ones but they don't all air on Bravo but yeah no Dubai's like the only sanctioned international one yeah because it's like on Peacock and they were at BravoCon they were at BravoCon all right were at bravo con all

right that's our show you guys thank you so much for oh you know who else goes my bucket crystal kong minkoff's husband yes very rich very laid back you know he lets crystal do what she wants she's redesigning the basement spending a million dollars like yeah jewish king yeah and i feel like she like he wanted to spend more right? We love a man Who can loosen the purse strings Yeah yeah yeah She was tightening them Yeah cause she's You know a responsible queen

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