The Toast - The Andy Reid Thomas Markle Pipeline: Tuesday, June 16th, 2026

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:09 It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. A new bombshell has entered the villa. Jackson Claude is his name. Honestly, a really hot guy, Jackson.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Jackson Claude, greater than Jackson Dart. Okay. Like, I don't really know anything about him, so sure. Fuck him. fellow Jackson. You know what I was thinking? Excuse me. There's only like truly one Jackson worth mentioning. Jackson or Rod Stewart. But Jackson Claude not greater than Jackson Rod Stewart.
Starting point is 00:00:56 No. Literally nobody greater than Jackson Rod Stewart. Exactly. That's why I was just like putting down a lesser Jackson. It's Jackson Rod Stewart greater than sign. All. Yeah. All Jackson. The world. What I was thinking is.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Like every day you come on the show and like intro me and like I know like you like like come up with a name for me or like a little gimmick. But it's like every day I have a new name for you. Like every day I'm ready to call you something different. Cojurner Fred. Like today I'm thinking today's episode is like a cojourney to cojourner. I was like liking cojourner Fred. I just finally started to understand it. Cojernopred.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And like yesterday I wanted to call you like Little Miss Journey. Oh, I love that. sassy, a little miss jern. So like, I know you do the intro, but I need a space where I can just say my nickname of the day. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I'm trying to think like where we could create that space. Yeah, like create and hold space for me. So like, watch this space. So like you do the intro, throw to me and then I could be like, hey, journalist. I guess like, yeah, when I throw to you, like, that's your time. So go. But you wind up, you wind up saying more stuff and then we just like get into Convo. And I, right. And don't you find that it's so much fun?
Starting point is 00:02:14 is oh i love it but i just like need i need a space to call you my flavor of the day okay well watch this space watch the space journal it's tuesday we have such a busy show love island was on last night we've got deer toasters must must help out our community no matter dear toasters no no matter how large we get and i'm talking about our show we can never forget to get back to the community i did forget about dear toasters because actually the stories are seriously good. There's a couple of insane things going on. Don't you find? I don't know that I would say insane, but a lot of meatiness in the stories,
Starting point is 00:02:55 like five stories that I want to talk about equally. I might even have six and maybe I'll do it because of that one time I did four because of that one time. Remember when I said? Today's not the day to do six. We have Dear Toasters and Love Island recap. So maybe add one to tomorrow's plate. I always think that.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And that's what happens with the toast. I always think that. I always think like, oh, okay, I'll do this one tomorrow, but then tomorrow comes and it's a bountiful tomorrow. And then tomorrow come, then tomorrow. I would see a lot of hate for my singing. And like, I just want to say, I did not suffer on the masked singer. It's fake.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Just to get hate for my own community. I will sing when I feel like it. I have an amazing voice. You can't tell me otherwise. And genuinely, and I mean this in like a very, very genuine way. Grab a spoon and eat my fucking ass. I will sing till the day I die, bitch. It's a fake troll bot smear campaign.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Like that's not real. Real ones love the singing. No, like real ones would never get in the way of like me and my biggest passion in the whole world. And real ones would never say it in the comments. Like they would never hurt you like that. Like say it to their friends behind my back like a normal person. Like, oh, another song. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:01 But they would never take the time to hurt you like that. I can't even tell you how genuinely hurtful it is. Like there are a lot of things. I get so much hate, you know. And people come for this, they come for that. None of it penetrates. Like literally none of it. You're talking about my singing.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Like that's hitting me where it genuinely hurts. Yeah. In a deep way. Pay it no mind. We'll do. Let it go. What did I do yesterday that I wanted to tell you about? I watched Love Island.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah. Excited to talk about Love Island. I also had a little bandwidth to read my book, which I just need to finish at this point. I don't know. I need to finish the book so I can understand the point of the book. I do. I can understand the point of like why we're telling this story.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I feel like I'm starting to get to it, which is like that the London police has like serious issues. Serious, the Met, Scotland Yards, like seriously they can't police their town. Like it's a real. It sounds like the Boston PD. It's a real problem. No, like the justice system that in London is so unjust. That's why I prefer America.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Always have, always will. We'll put a boot in your ass. It's the American way. Yeah. So I think like that's the point of the book. It's like this is just one case in a larger, much larger issue that like they don't know how to do police work. And they also seem like not even that they don't know how like uninterested and unwilling
Starting point is 00:05:31 to do. I saw the cover of the book because you posted on your Instagram and like I do understand why you were sort of seduced by it. It's a very seductive cover. And I know we're not supposed to judge book by covers, but like we are. Absolutely. And that's why you should read,
Starting point is 00:05:48 Girl With No Job, The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram, There's Monster and The Camper and the Counselor. Two iconic covers. Yeah, that's right. You are listening to a podcast hosted by not one, but two motherfucking authors, bitch. And the title is London Falling, which at the outset of the book, you know immediately,
Starting point is 00:06:01 it's about a boy 19 years old, so a guy who, like, jumps off of a balcony. Oh. But so that seems like the obvious reason for the title. But now it's like, no, London is falling. They have no competent police department. Chilling. Chilling.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And I also have to be honest. I love a double entendre, don't you? I have to be honest, the subtitle for the book. What was it? I need to read it so you can understand how I got here. A mysterious death in a gilded city and a family search for truth. I did think it was a gilded age book. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:33 The use, I agree. The use of the word gilded should be reserved for that one era. It is not a gilded age book. It's very modern. It took place in 2019. 1000%. Oh, I forgot to tell you this. I'm getting my ass eaten alive on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Like, I am getting, like, canceled. Oh, why? Well, I made a TikTok about O.G. Anonobe, who is the Knicks player who made, like, that iconic tip in. He's, like, this very, very stoic guy. He's gone viral so many times he, like, refuses to smile. He's, like, very soft-spoken. Actually, he was in the most recent episode of your friends and neighbors.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I feel like none of people are talking about that. Anyways, I was saying how he just needs a good woman in his life. And there were rumors. Do you remember I told you about this like last year. Sunilie Lee was at a game and like, OG was like kind of on the fritz. Like he wasn't okay. I think that they actually ended up dating.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's all very like conspiratory. But I was saying he needs like the loving embrace of a good woman. And I was like coming up with people that I want him to date. And I realized like the perfect girl for him is obviously Chloe Kardashian. Um, I posted that TikTok like not fully understanding. Like of course Chloe Kardashian can ever be a wag on the same team of Jordan Woods. Like of course like people are saying, so disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm sorry. You said it to your TikTok that he should take Chloe. And like it obviously ended up on a bad side of TikTok because my followers know I would never wish ill on Jordan Woods. Yeah. And how old is OG? He's also like too young for her. But I don't know when I think of and also she shouldn't date a basketball player.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Absolutely not. Like it is a bad call except for the fact they just both seem like really. And he's like so shy and she's so outgoing. Like it's really, it's getting like Kiki Palmer and Sean Evans like yin to yang. Let me just take a glance. at the eligible list and see if he's extremely handsome oh we have eligible's 2.0 I'm cracking up and there's only one person on it who Sophie Turner we're so weird put OG and Oby on the list no I have to go back to the original I guess we we were probably like editing and then yeah we probably tried to
Starting point is 00:08:25 make our like a new one because the list sucks outdated piece of shit eligible singles list where everyone is either like old or not single old losers like yeah not famous unemployed It's the same people. Selena Gomez is on here. She's married. And like, why was she ever on this list? No,
Starting point is 00:08:42 I wouldn't pair her with my worst enemy. I've taken her off. Oh, also we need to talk about Michael B. Jordan because he's on the list, as he always is. We were saying last night, like apparently he likes Souls photo already.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So like when she comes out of the villa, like she has a date with Michael B. Jordan. What is Michael B. Jordan doing? Like, you are the most A-List desirable actor on the planet. And like, you're always just like in the reality TV discards looking for a date. So I want to say, I want to give Michael B. Jordan the benefit of the doubt because we talked about him like potentially being set up with Sierra from Rihanna.
Starting point is 00:09:18 That never happened. And now, yeah, allegedly he's like, liking souls and serum. And last year he was. Andrina. Andrina's Instagram. I just want to say, I've not seen one receipt of any of this. A lot of it is just like brain rot from Instagram and TikTok comment sections. I don't know that he's actually done any of these things.
Starting point is 00:09:36 It's like a bit at this point. Oh, if you're attractive and poorly treated on TV, like Michael Jordan is going to court you. He's coming to save you. But it's like, why can't he just get like a date the regular way? So that's why I feel like he's not actually doing these things. Like, I'm sorry, the man just won an Oscar. He's not DMing people from Love Island. Like, he's just not.
Starting point is 00:09:56 No, and last year and this year. And like he didn't have anything going this year. He didn't have any date or girlfriend or nothing. And there's also- Because I think it's all lies. It's rumors and nastiness. And then also the rumor that Rihanna set him up with Sierra. With Sierra.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Which obviously didn't work out if he's. No, I'm telling you, Jackie, none of these things ever come to life. Like, I think he's like, seriously, people just like make shit up about him. I really feel that way. Okay. That makes me feel better because I'm like, what are you doing? Like, it's just like, now it's just known. Like, if you're hiding you're on reality TV, like Michael B. Jordan is going to like your picture.
Starting point is 00:10:32 All right. So I'll go on reality TV. I just like. I just like. I just don't know. why he can't get a date or a girlfriend. Well, he's obviously a man of taste because anyone who likes Soul, I saw somebody on TikTok say, like, we're obviously a part of Soul's fandom, so we are soldiers.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Oh, and also, when they go to Soul Ties, like, how are they not calling it? Soul Ties. No, and if everyone was treating her as a fucking equal, like, there would be so much lore. We'd be having so much fun. She's such a queen. No. But, I mean, is everybody on Soul side?
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yes. Like the fans, you mean? Yeah, I took a look at the fandom last night, and what I'm gathering is people hate Zach. Hate. Yeah, and I'm with them. Yeah, but pales into comparison to my hatred for sincere. No, of course, because Zach is very much the ace of this season. Got himself in a safe couple.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's like trying to win. And also, Zach really has an advantage by being like the brother of somebody who's been on this show. So he has a real back, you know, back in knowledge of how things work and how beneficial the show can be for your life and your career, the longer that you stay. So he's like very much invested in staying on. And also like making everyone else look bad, like sitting people down and doing audits on their relationships. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:42 He's giving me bad vibes. Yeah. Yeah. I have issues. But it's funny that he's the villain of the season so far when it's obviously sincere. Obviously. Let's step into the show. We have so much to do and we're already like bleeding into Laiusa.
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Starting point is 00:18:44 is leaving Summer House for season 11 after his contract has not been renewed. So West Wilson, Wicked Witch, Gara Graham, will not be returning for Summer House season 11 when the show begins filming in the hamper. in early July a source has confirmed his contract has not been renewed. I mean, I find this shocking. I mean, I knew they were going to go one of two ways.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And I think that based on what we know about Bravo, like historically, they do really like listen to the fans a lot and the fans hate. So yeah, is Sierra going to be there? I don't know. Like, I hate this man more than anything in the world, but I like kind of want to hear from him. He's crazy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I guess Sierra will be. there. I think Liz posted this someone had messaged her and they made a really good point, which is like, yes, West is the drama and we're taking the drama out of the equation. But he doesn't actually contribute on the show. He doesn't speak. He just, even on the reunion, his plan is just to like sit there, take it all, move on. He did that at the first reunion. Even over the summer, like, he adds value in the sense that he's like fun and everybody likes him. But when you take that away because he's not fun and nobody likes him anymore, he doesn't actually do confrontation.
Starting point is 00:19:56 He doesn't actually do TV. And he thinks he can keep coasting. I think this must have been such a shock for him. Such a shock. Like I think he's shitting. Because she's like the bad boy of Bravo. They loved him. I think he's shitting his pants.
Starting point is 00:20:10 All the opportunities. They were doing a summer house extension, a different series in the Adirondacks or whatever. Ozarks. Based on him and like his friend group from growing up, I think that he was tapped a lot for like a lot of opportunities within like the NBC Pococon. family. He does a lot of sports. I think that I'm curious if he's off of Summerhouse or off of Bravo.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Like is he out? Like will he still have his Ozark show? Maybe. Maybe he's just off of Summerhouse. That way Sierra can come back because that's what the viewers want to see. But I also think like there is an argument to be made that even though he's the drama like he actually doesn't deliver and watching him, you know, like wallow all summer and mumble some apology like isn't interesting. interesting, especially if we're going to get from him, like, what we got at the reunion. And I do think, like, this is him, like, finally having to, like, answer for all that he's done. I think, you know, we said, like, him and Amanda did a job well done. They made the show go on.
Starting point is 00:21:06 But it's, like, not really him and his actions and his words that are doing it. It's, like, all the stuff that he does off camera. And then he brings nothing to camera. And I think that chickens are coming home to roost. Yeah, there is an element of this. It's actually extremely rewarding because I feel that on reality TV and Broadway, specifically, you really get so rewarded for your bad behavior. Like, there's no, like, even when you think about, like, all those, like,
Starting point is 00:21:30 sort of, like, toxic men of Bravo. It took Jack's Taylor, like, 15 years, like, actually get fired. They do such bad things. They're such, like, bad people sometimes. And they just, like, ha ha, memes and jokes and merch. Like, it never really, I feel has consequences. And so for someone to, like, really behave so poorly, have complete disregard for their friends.
Starting point is 00:21:53 and actually see some sort of repercussions. Like, it's quite delicious. Yeah, I think he must be very shocked. I do think personally, like, I mean, and I couldn't be more different than the Bravo producer. So this is what I said. I said, like, I think they should stay, which means they're going to go because we're not aligned.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I do think, like, to close out the story, they should have been on the next season or the next few episodes and then go, like, even think about Tom Sandiball after Scandibald. But Sierra would never show up. Yeah, Sandival needed to be there this season after. Scandibald to answer for all that he did. And then I never want to see him again. But like for the entertainment value and the storyline and closing out and the narrative,
Starting point is 00:22:33 like you do need to see them and hear from them. However, we don't really hear a lot from West. So I don't know what value he was going to add other than just disrupting the household. And I think that Summer House, the show and the group like really relies on being like close and trusting each other. And like they were all crying at the reunion because he like broke up their family. And I think they just want to try and get back to that. place of like real friendship.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah, I guess the difference is that these people have to live together. So it's like, yeah, Ariana can say like, I don't want to film with Sandoval, but like, that's fine. They're still on the show. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like Sierra, in order to be back of the show, would have to then sleep in the same house as them.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And like, that's where I think people draw the line, which I obviously understand and agree with. Yeah. And I guess it was never a question if Amanda was returning or not because she's on in the city now. She's graduated and she was never coming back to Summer House, I guess. I mean, she might still come back. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:23:21 We haven't heard anything. Is Kyle? coming back? Is Lindsay coming back? I feel like they're all going to be on in the city. Oh, and then I, did they also then announce like who's returning? I didn't see that. So I saw, maybe it was just a rumor like a list of people, KJ, no Dara. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:23:39 And I think we should control Z, Dara no KJ. And then Dara made a TikTok. How about this? No KJ, no Dara. She made a TikTok like sad girl like makeup or whatever. Because I guess they are broken up. Oh, they are? Yes, Jesse Solomon confirmed it.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I thought on What Happens Live. I thought that the breakup was like fake prey to promote his music. And I thought that was extremely like lowbrow behavior. So they just filmed the music video before they broke up. Yes. Jesse Solomon says they're working up. Oh, wow. Okay, yeah, I'm good with no KJ, no Dara.
Starting point is 00:24:17 But then we have like nobody. No KJ, no Dara, no Amanda. No, Kyle, no West and Lindsay. And then what's Carl going to do without his friend? So we just have Jesse, Mia, Sierra, Bailey, Levi, Ben. By the way, I thought Levi had a good show at the reunion. I'll give her a second chance. Yeah, I don't know why they are like cutting her out.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah, because she was there. Yeah, and she's, yeah, she's fine. She hasn't done anything wrong. Like, let her be on the show. I just know. I am really curious to see if this is like a cutting of the cord with West and the network completely or just this particular show. Because I think the network had like a lot invested in him.
Starting point is 00:24:51 They really loved him. He was like the Golden Boy. You know, they, the fans loved him. Like, so I wonder if all of that is over or just this particular show. Because I'm sure Sierra said, if you guys want me back, I will not be in a house with them. Yes, of course. And TBD about Amanda. Also, Lindsay Hubbard posted afterwards saying, good morning.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Hope everyone slept well last night. I know I did. Woke up with some more thoughts, if anyone cares. Where did she post this? Threads. One, maybe Wes Wilson should go on his podcast and publicly apologize to me for using my daughter as clickbait and a decoy to distract from his secret relationship with Amanda. Instead of talking shit about the show, he was so fortunate for me to put him on.
Starting point is 00:25:32 What did he say about her daughter? I don't know what he said recently, but when she got pregnant, he had said something like, there's no way that she can be back on the show unless they bring the baby. I don't think I can babysit. Ew. Yeah. And like that was everyone's king. Yeah, no, and she didn't forget, which I love.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But then also it's like this summer they're all like Westy, you know. Yeah, I know. I know. And then two, she said West has tried to threaten my career slash show now three times and quite frankly disgusting. No other word to describe it. So I guess by saying that she shouldn't come back with a baby, also saying people shouldn't watch this episode tonight.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Right, right. I love Lindsay Hubbard more than anything in this role, but I just want to say one thing. She's giving like a little bit of Jacks Taylor screaming at Lisa Vanderpump like this is my show. Like, yes, this is that. house that Lindsay Hubbard built. Like she bled out. She's been honest since day one. I don't necessarily know if like, you know, West saying he wants the Knicks to win so nobody
Starting point is 00:26:32 watches this episode. Like, is it a personal attack to Lindsay? I respect her wanting and her ability to make everything about herself. Like as a fellow crazy person, I respect that. But I do feel like some of this is like a little bit of a stretch. Yeah, but you know what? Andy spoke about the Knicks thing. And he said, he said, if I were West, I would probably feel the same way.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I just wouldn't say it publicly because that's bad at your job. Like going against and rooting against your work. Like Bravo should fire him for that. No, but not only that, now I'm especially intrigued. When they teased it last week, I'm like, this looks terrible. But now I'm like, what doesn't he want me to say? Yeah. And it's like a fair thing to think and like Annie said, say to your friends or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:15 But to publicly say that and like go against the network. Like that's why that gets you fired. This is a job. behavior. You're telling people not to consume the product that your job is putting out fired. And it's crazy of all the things Wes Wilson has done, the thing that's really getting me to hate him so much, like in a really effective way is his fucking podcast. His clips, like he just thinks he's just such a typical, like, he's just like a short,
Starting point is 00:27:41 relatively unattractive guy, but like people think he's so hot. Like he just thinks he's such fucking hot shit that even after all this, the things he says, like, yeah, that and just other things on his podcast. He thinks he's so fucking, like, cool and untouchable. And his podcast makes him really unlikable. Well, that's all he has now. And I wonder if Sophie's going to still do it with him because he's like a nobody now.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Well, I think that whatever podcast she was going to do, like it is more culturally relevant now that he is on it. So I don't think she would or should kick him to the curb quite yet. Because he's not irrelevant. Like people are still talking about him. We'll move on and then he's just unemployed. And then he's like, if he's completely off the network, we don't know if he is. Yeah, we don't know if he is.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And so he probably also isn't going to like trash the network further because maybe he's still hoping for Ozarks or like to be in the city with Amanda. Right, right. But I'm sure he was shocked. He really thought his shit didn't stink. And like the worst he behaved, the more he'd be rewarded for it because how are you going to let him go? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And if he just like got through it, we could move on. Yeah, but no. So that's really surprising. I thought if we just got through it, we could move on. I thought that too, but no, no. Are you ready for our next story? Brooklyn Beckham takes a job at his parents, David and Victoria, in a new World Cup ad.
Starting point is 00:29:02 So Brooklyn Beckham took a swipe at his parents in a new advertisement as his family feud continues to rage on. The, wow, this is so generous of page six. The Cloud 23 Hot Sauce founder, a reference. Lo! The unemployed Nepo baby and wife. And Nepo baby and husband. Referenced his complicated relationship with his parents and siblings in a DoorDash ad shared on his Instagram Monday.
Starting point is 00:29:27 It said, you're probably wondering why I'm watching the FIFA World Cup 2026 from home, he said in the video, while sitting on his couch wearing a sweatshirt and jeans. It's a long story, he said with a laugh as he tossed World Cup tickets onto his coffee table. The words, then it's complicated more soon flashed across the screen. So I think that Brooklyn Beckham is the biggest. low life of our generation for this. I agree. There are so many elements that make this disgusting.
Starting point is 00:29:56 The first is like, you're only eligible for a DoorDash campaign because of who your father is. Right. And mother. And now you're clowning on them in said campaign. Two, I think that also this was like an affront in many ways because, you know, David and Victoria are faces of Uber Eats. I have like a couple of iconic commercials.
Starting point is 00:30:16 So I just think he's literally disgusting. I like I fucking hate him for this. He thinks he's so cheeky and funny and it's like you're dumb and like I hate him. The only saving grace and I don't think this, but I just want to put it out there because in the commercial he has a stack of tickets in his hands and he throws them on the counter. And if you count them, I think it's like six and it's like there are six Beckham's like maybe they're reuniting for this campaign because it says this is part one of a campaign. I think it says it's complicated more soon, meaning like more stuff to come.
Starting point is 00:30:52 There were multiple tickets. It's possible that the Beckams are all doing this together, but I don't think that like David and Victoria are the type of people to use family trauma and drama for an ad campaign. They're not poor. There's absolutely no way. This is something you do when you're like strung out needing money. No, they're not monetizing the family feud. Also, they're not jumping from Uber Eats to DoorDash in one year.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Also, Brooklyn, I'm actually not surprised that you're saying. sitting on the couch watching the World Cup, why would you be there? You famously couldn't hack it as a soccer player. So when I see that Brooklyn Beckham's watching the World Cup from home, that doesn't like do anything for me. Not only does he not speak to his father, David doesn't even play soccer anymore. Like, correct. Why would you be there?
Starting point is 00:31:35 David might not even be there if he doesn't really. I think he is. Like, why would you be there after what you wrote about your family and airing your dirty lunch? It's genuinely not confusing. And I'm not wondering why you're sitting on the couch watching game. And at this present moment, I could not hold a lower opinion of this person, like dead serious.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Because I think before, like obviously I'm teamed David and Victoria, but there is a part of me that saw Brooklyn as like sort of this good husband, right? And I could have argued both sides. But this is not what good people do. And I think that maybe, you know, in certain situations you could explain like, yeah, this is a little bad, but like he needs the money. No, no, he's like married to a full on billionaire. There is not one, there was not one good reason to have done this, honestly.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, no. Oh, and the comments are fucking brutal. They had to turn them. They limited them. Oh, gosh. Yeah. No, this was a bad move. I mean, but he's not really going to turn it down because I know he doesn't need the money, but I'm sure he would like to bring home some income instead of always having to go ask his in-laws for money.
Starting point is 00:32:36 So not that he needs the money, but I think he would want money and want a job and want employment. No, and any time he does try to do something professionally, albeit photography, being a chef, I guess he founded a hot sauce company I've never heard of. It is like the ultimate flop. Oh, you know what? I feel like we had a conversation a little while ago about like nepo babies who flop. Yeah. We should start a list.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I think I have one. I think I know whose name to search to find it. Because it is like just because you are nepo does not mean that you automatically become successful. Like yes, it definitely helps. And so there is an interesting conversation to be had about nepo babies who like can't hack it. We have to add him to the list. Who else is on it?
Starting point is 00:33:15 Let me tell you this list is so mean. I'm actually not saying because I'm going to text it to you and you're going to understand why. Maybe we made it like for our personal lives. I think we did. I'm glad that we did. But it was a short list. There was three people and others for. Oh, we can't say it.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah. Also, I just want to say I've been corrected by our production team. There is a screenshot of Michael B. Jordan actually liking Soul's picture. So just want to say like receipts are there. So these things are happening. One of three. Confirmed. But he did like Andrenas pictures.
Starting point is 00:33:48 No? I don't know. Probably. But probably. If he likes soul, he liked a injury. Yeah. And Rihanna was the one who set him up with Sierra. He's also chronically online.
Starting point is 00:33:56 That was a rumor. That was a Dumas saying that Rihanna's setting him up with an A-less actor. And everyone just assumed Michael B. Jordan. Who just won an answer. It was Michael B. Jordan. And Michael Jordan is always fishing for a date. Maybe he just loves reality TV. Or he's chronically online.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Yeah, maybe. But like also you can like be chronically online, love reality TV, and also be able to get a date in the real world, you know? 100%. When you're Michael B. Jordan. What was the story? Brooklyn Beckham. Oh, literally I've never,
Starting point is 00:34:27 genuinely never thought lower of someone. Like, I just think he's seriously disgusting for this. And I also want to say, like, if it is the family reuniting, like, in this way, then they're all on my list. But it's not. Like, I know for certain that it's not. I also saw some paparazzi pictures of Harper Beckham, the sister, was in L.A.,
Starting point is 00:34:45 and I guess a paparazzi caught her going into Brooklyn's house. But I think he didn't open the door. So this story is really confusing. We don't know why she was there. And then Brooklyn was in New York. He wasn't even home and neither was Nicholas. So like no one was home. That's why she didn't go in.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Do she know that they weren't home? Was she just stopping back? There's no way to know what happened there. So I'm going to actually like not fall to anyone because we just don't know. I ride extremely hard for the nuclear Beckham family. Me as well. Me as well. Are you ready for our next story?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Yeah. Little smut news. Icebreaker series greenlit at Netflix with Alex Cooper producing and Amanda Lashar set as the showrunner. Icebreaker is like the OG hockey smut book. When off campus was being turned, I thought that it was that book. But it's like literally the exact same book except she's not a music major. She's an figure skater. So they both.
Starting point is 00:35:42 What happens is like one of the hockey, one of the like ice rinks goes out of business or whatever. And the figure skating team has to share with the hockey team. And so obviously, and then she also has like an eating disorder. So like trigger warning, there's going to be some of that. It was really good. That was the only hockey smut book I ever read. And I have to say it was fantastic. Like I seriously was caught the fuck up in it.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah. I never. I did read off campus. I did read off campus. I never read icebreaker, but like I have heard of it. It's like one of the top smut books. I never heard of off campus even, never read it. So this is like was a bigger title in the smut world.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yeah. Netflix is like famously bad at adapting book. books, so I'm a little afraid. And I do think, like, the off-campus hype, like, it's a little bandwagony, you know? Yeah, for sure, but that's what happens. Like, something becomes cool,
Starting point is 00:36:33 and then we get, like, a lot of versions of it because it's the new flavor. And you just can't keep a good gal down. I guess, like, Alex Cooper is unaffected. Yeah. I'm sure she was glad to have this to post, you know? Yeah, like, you know. More content.
Starting point is 00:36:46 More content. And also, like, you know, she's not going anywhere. Yeah, that's what when we were saying, like, do we think any of this, like, internet drama cancellation nation will actually have an effect on her specifically? No, she has deep roots in, yeah, you said celebrities really like her. I think she has really good relationships and connections with, like, networks and streaming services and, like, showrunners. Because she operates at an extremely high level. So for now, unaffected. Yeah. Also, I think like things like this speak to the why of, like, why she does unwell. I think. she's that, you know, Unwell does a lot of things, you know, some more successful than others. But, you know, if she just stayed doing Call Her Daddy forever and, like, just was like doing that, then how do you go and make movies too? Like, you don't. You need a company with a production company. And I think also this is where her husband really shines. He makes movies. He's made
Starting point is 00:37:39 movies for Netflix. He's made successful movies for Netflix. To all the boys I love before. Yeah, like giving him the keys to the movie department at Unwell to make Gen Z movies for Netflix. Like just makes sense. It does. So I think that... Giving him the key so he can yell at everyone. I look forward to everyone who gets yelled at on the set of icebreaker. A thousand percent.
Starting point is 00:38:03 So yeah, I'm looking forward to casting news. Also, this variety article does cite the good successes of Netflix's adaptations, which are Bridgerton. Yeah. True. I forget that Bridgetton is based on books. Queen's Gambit. Yeah. Is that based on a book?
Starting point is 00:38:21 It's based on a book and it's the greatest show ever made. It's the greatest show ever made. Yeah. And to all the boys I loved before, don't forget, that was based on a book. So her husband actually has experience. But the list of ones they've done unsuccessfully is longer. Of course. But it's not impossible.
Starting point is 00:38:39 No, it's not impossible. Just whoever worked on luckiest girl lives, stay far away from this. And perfect couple. And perfect couple. Yeah. Yeah. Well, has Unwell done a movie yet? Movie book?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Book movie? Yeah. Not book, but they did a movie that took place on an airplane. It was like a rom-com for Netflix with that girl from White Lotus, who's like the big Jonas Brothers fan. Haley. Haley Lou Richardson. I'm unfamiliar. Yeah, I don't think it popped off.
Starting point is 00:39:11 But it wasn't bad. It wasn't like, you know, Razzie. Yeah. I think, I wonder if she'll wind up doing it. Akatar what's going on with Akitar so if you have to watch her Instagram stories like very meticulously because she doesn't just post yeah for nothing she like a year ago was like guys I'm gonna start reading it's like oh great you're obviously gonna start adapting shit into movies and TV shows and now she's like posts a lot about fourth wing no and fourth wing's already
Starting point is 00:39:39 being made no fourth wing's in like in the it's at Amazon she I don't think she does Akita she does Akita and she had Sarah J. Moss on the podcast remember I was like Like a huge. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. She doesn't just post for anything. She doesn't post like a lot of Love Island. Maybe because someone from the show will probably come on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah, that's like a big part of her job. And then also all those people do the unwealth festivals and the circuit. Yeah, right. So she's got to slum it with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. That's just like standard operating. Practices. Business hours.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah. No, but I feel like now she's going to do Akitar. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I didn't read it. Actually, I started Akit. but I didn't finish it. It's not for me. Me neither. You can't dance at every wedding. It's true. So yeah, Icebreaker. We'll see you on Netflix. Yeah, we will. Are you ready for our fourth story? Yeah. Which is some precious news.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Chief coach Andy Reid's Taylor shares a glimpse of his custom tuxedo fitting ahead of Taylor Travis's wedding. I'm sick. And of course, what does this remind you of? Megan Markle's dad? He is the Thomas Markle of this royal wedding. And also it's like when Thomas Markle started out on his journey of being father of the bride, it was the most precious thing we ever saw. He had paparazzi taking pictures of him Googling, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:07 royal wedding at the library. You know that now we know that photo was like famously staged. Yes, yes, yes. But even once we knew it was staged, it's like it's just so precious in its nature. Like, hey, paparazzi, come watch me. search the internet at the public library for what to wear to a royal wedding like just so so fucking cute and then he didn't even get invited things went so south after that but i'm sorry the idea that he would like stage those photos actually like doesn't even bother me i know it's like precious boomer
Starting point is 00:41:37 energy yeah so peter's clotheirs a man's apparel shop in kansas city it's giving It's giving malzones tuxedos. Malzone tuxedos. The lore of this show goes so deep. Like I always want new people to start watching, but like people who have bidded us for so long who know like our OG. Yeah, that's giving Malzones from New Jersey. Like if you don't know like can't explain it.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Peters is the Malzones of the Middle East. Of the Midwest. Of the Middle East for sure. Oh my God, funny. So Peter's Clothieres gave a glimpse of the chiefs coach doing a tuxedo fitting ahead of the couple's wedding. In Instagram, post the shop shared a photo of Andy Reed trying on his black tucks as the owner. As the owner, Spiro Arvantakis made adjustments.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I'm like seriously sick from this. Like I actually can't talk about it. Do you know any mean? Like it brings up a lot of feelings. I know, but I do feel like we're headed down Thomas Marco Path. Like I'm so down for the Andy Reed Thomas Markle Pipeline. title i really like uh this is so cute i it's like it's too precious like i mean i feel physically i'm actually having deja vu because i think those exact words this is so cute it's too precious i feel
Starting point is 00:43:04 physically ill from it is how we described taubman's markel doing his cafe website yeah i hate to break it to you kansas city fans like this is the end of the end of andy reed's career it's about to get so bad so dark for andy reed and like taylor's not not amused. No, I actually think she is. Just wait, Claudia. It's always the first, the sucks fitting. Then what?
Starting point is 00:43:32 It's true. Then snapping the photo of invitation. Next thing he's Googling. Yeah. Oh, God, yeah. Next thing he's Googling, like, best MSG entrance. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:49:17 Is it the devastating, like, quite scary news about the Love Island executive producer who passed away? No, actually, I was keeping it upbeat with the fact that the Love Island Casa more episodes are headed to theaters. Oh, yeah, that's weird. It's like, it's a lot. Yes, Love Island USA is headed to theaters this summer with a screening of the Casa Amor Fallout.
Starting point is 00:49:38 So Peacock is taking the villa to select theaters nationwide so fans can experience the jaw-dropping moments from Casa, Moran, witness the bombshell twist. test and unforgettable recouplings on June 22nd at 9 p.m. Because I was like, when's Casa? I'm more like, can we like get it going? Speed it up. Because it does feel like the season just started. So like Casa's not happening for a while, but it's June 22nd.
Starting point is 00:49:56 They're doing things so quickly. Like the hideaway when no one's even closed off and they haven't even gone on a date. Well, it's there. It just moves the plot. And then also you know they're about to bring in someone who is Zach's type to a T. Oh, yeah. I need them to bring in someone who's Caleb's type.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Like I've had enough. Oh, yes, me as well. But maybe they have the same type. That would be good. But they're about to test Zach and Kada after just giving them a night in the hideaway. That's what they do. So it's going to cost them more making its theater debut in 28 theaters across the country. Fans of the dating series can reserve their seats through Fandango.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I love anything that supports theaters, right? I love the movie theater industry. Like I want to help. But I'm sorry, I can't. Like, this is crazy. It's not that good. Like, the season's really not that good. And also, like, I don't want to watch a show like around other people.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yucky. Yucky. It's like group porn. Yeah. So last night's episode was very much like a, not filler, but it was like just sort of moving things around. Nothing major, no challenge or whatever. Conversations.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Lots of conversations, but it was really interesting. It was a particularly bad episode for KC. I feel like he's so unlikable to me for a couple of things. Did anybody else catch when they were talking about when was last time you had sex? And he was like, I was fucking seven months ago. Like just the way he's like, oh, you ain't fucked since then? Like the way you're saying, what do you say made love? You haven't had been intimate.
Starting point is 00:51:18 There's so many ways to say it. But like maybe two or even three times. He said, oh yeah, I fucked her. She was fucking. I'm like, oh my God. Like it was so disrespectful. And then he's talking about how Anaya is moving slow, like a normal person. And he called her with the guys a grandma.
Starting point is 00:51:34 He is not who I thought he was. He's really not. And like. Also, we have to also remember, think back to the big bed scene when the bombshells came in. And everything was fine between Casey and I at that point. And then Oriana was like, how are you guys feeling? He made that weird joke. And he was like blessed.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Like everything starts to add up. Any person who like Anaya is not comfortable being intimate in front of cameras, being intimate in a room full of 25 people. Anyone who has a problem with that. With someone she's known for a week and a half. He really, like he does not deserve her. And I hate that like people are saying. And it's true like Anaya's on the wrong show. I just wish this was the type of show that like would have someone like Anaya.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And when someone does come in like this, it's actually very respected instead of look down upon like Bella. But no, like they will never have another Bella. The takeaway there was like, we need people who are down to kiss everybody, not people who will withhold. And like at the hideaway,
Starting point is 00:52:30 like the fact that we saw Kate as Tushy and like the whip thing, like that was really crazy. And so while my heart, I'm with Anaya. Like I don't know, except for Anaya's like blind loyalty to Melanie. And like, her friendships are seriously questionable.
Starting point is 00:52:45 In terms of her relationship, I'm so on her side. I feel bad for her because, like, she is going to be punished for having standards. Yeah. But, like, if you go on the show, you need to know that. Like, and I do feel like they make it very clear. If you watch the show, which they've all watched the show, like you need to be down for everything all the time with everyone all at once.
Starting point is 00:53:08 And like, so I keep holding out for someone to like, you know, I don't know, say no. to something once in a while, but that's not the show. So agreed she's on the wrong show, even though like she's the one that I agree with the most. Yeah. It was another just awful night for Sincere. He just sort of confirmed to Melanie that he still wants to pursue. He's telling Soul he's her number one.
Starting point is 00:53:33 And I just kind of need Melanie and this whole thing could be solved if like Melanie and Soul had one conversation. No, Melanie, soul and sincere. Because Melanie could say to Soul, oh, he's telling me this, but why would Solman leave Melanie? She's kind of crazy. Yeah, right. The three of them should talk.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I did love to see Soul getting pulled for a chat with Kenzie and Jen. Dweem team. Dwee, literally, Dweem team. I think that Kenzie was like besties with all the original girls, but this Corbyn thing has, like, made it really awkward. And I think the girls are taking Melanie side. So, like, she's finding new friends.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And like, yes, I love seeing Soul just like being a girl, you know, being like, oh, yeah, you should kiss Corbin. Like, just like, I love her so much. She's had the worst experience this far on this show. So, like, something. normal, like having a girl chat, like shouldn't be so exciting for soul, but it is. She seriously makes me so sad. So when she has a happy moment, like, I feel extra happy.
Starting point is 00:54:21 When they, like, pulls her from sincere, like, got to take your girl, girl talk. I'm like, bring her back in one piece. Oh, it might be too. Yay. Yes, like normal experiences only for soul. Like, that's what I want. Average experience. And then, of course, they have to juxtapose, like, the three of them talking about how
Starting point is 00:54:37 excited she is to be with, like, sincere eyeing Melanie in the speakeasy. And I actually thought in the beginning, like Melanie was the way that even the body language, like she was sitting like nothing's happening here. And I do feel like she's really trying to move on. And I actually, I like as much as I, you know, don't like her. I like how she's like moving in the new state of things. However, at the end when they were hugging, I felt like she was like wanting him to kiss her. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:55:06 She's like, it's like, she's like, does one thing and does another. And even I forget who it was who just like. clocked her was like she's sleeping in soul ties for attention. Oh my God. When she's left in soul ties for the second night. Who said that about her? It might have been Casey and honestly he does like read her. He did it was Casey.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah, he hates her. He hates her. Which I like, I just appreciate him. I couldn't believe she was sleeping in soul ties for the second night. I thought okay the night of the recoupling high stakes were all very drama drama. When they cut to her sleeping in solitize, which is quit literally outside. Like it's crazy to sleep outside. I was shook.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah. Like you can sleep in the bed. with Corbyn. And you had no problem like making out with Corbyn sincere, Cormin sincere. Yeah. But now of a sudden like,
Starting point is 00:55:47 oh, I can't. Well, now everyone's being like precious about kissing. Like Kenzie and Corbin? Yeah, well, I guess like they really
Starting point is 00:55:54 are crossing a line by continuing to kiss. But why is everyone acting like because you've been recoupled? That means you can't talk to a person you have a connection with. Yeah. I don't know why they're acting like that
Starting point is 00:56:04 because you can. And just Kenzie needs to like make clear to everyone and to Kays. and to Caleb that she's very much like going down these past. But she is, she's telling everyone pretty much the honest truth, which she has feelings for both. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I can't believe she's so hung up on Corbyn. Like, what am I not seeing? Caleb is so cute. And yeah, Caleb's 21. Corbin's 22. Yeah. No, no, I know. They just really like each other.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Like, I think they just like, I think that if they had sex, like, it could be over. I think they're probably just like have a lot of pent up sexual tension from sleeping in the bed together. And they're like, you know, getting freaky with one another. Yeah. So like they need to have sex just so it can be over. Yeah, because I don't think it's like a great love. But at least it's keeping things interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah, and Kenzie and Jen, they don't like Melanie. And the fact that they're like, they're like, Corbin won't kiss me because he's coupled up with Melanie. It's like that's not Melanie's fault. No, no. And like Corbyn does not like Melanie. And Melanie doesn't like Corbin. It's just like it's convenient for her to pretend.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Yeah, because she's going to get sincere back. And like to make sincere jealous. Yeah, everything she's doing, like she's saying all the right things. It's coming from like just the wrong place. And she's just like waiting in the wings for sincere. I need two bombshells. Three. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I need someone who like a Jalen for Anaya. Someone who's there just for Anaya. Like Casey is fake. And I'm sorry, Zach did clock him. Like absolutely. I really don't like Casey anymore. So I need someone to come in there. I need someone to come in also for Kada because Zach is way too comfortable.
Starting point is 00:57:38 She is so giddy. Like she does not, she's not even cool, calm or collected for like three seconds. And he is like giving me weird vibes. Yeah. And I also need someone to come in for Caleb. I think someone will come in for Zach and it will test their relationship. And I hope that he still chooses Kada and then they can close off. Kada is not looking any other way other than Zach.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Even if they brought in the perfect man for her, she wouldn't even see him because she only sees Zach. So I think to explore a connection after having sex, like that's wrong. So call me all fashion. Yeah, but like if you're not closed off, you should have to be closed off to get to the hideaway. Well, no, it's also, she has agency. She could say, I'm not having sex with you unless we're closed off. Like, she could say that.
Starting point is 00:58:22 She doesn't have agency. She's like so obsessed. And also like the hideaway, more hideaway, let these people have a private night once. It's true. I'm glad you, I don't think it was too early in the season. The hideaway should be open every night and they should be able to send a couple there every night. They do that on Bachelor in Paradise. There's like the boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Oh, yeah. No, that's Jersey Shore. I think they like wound up calling it that. It's like an ode to Jersey Shore or whatever. And always one couple sleeps in there. It's always the strongest couple who like actually wants privacy. No, Jersey Shore is a mushroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Backtime practice is boom boom. So and then eventually if another couple is strong, like they would get it one night. But it should be open for a couple every night to like solidify their relationship. I think it like it's good and normal. But you should put boundaries on if you're trying to get seriously. with your guy, you should. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:59:11 That's on Kada. Yeah. No, it is on Kada. She's got to get smart. I said that yesterday. And then also a executive producer from Love Island passed away last week in Fiji, like while working.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And that news was just released yesterday. So I guess they've sort of just been, it does feel like they sort of like are scrambling a little bit. Like production feels like it's kind of like just throwing a bunch of shit at the the wall. And I kind of like the idea that their executive producer like is not there anymore. You know what? It kind of tracks with like,
Starting point is 00:59:39 how the show has been directed. Well, the way it feels for me, and maybe it's just because of the time, the app crash, but it feels like they're just sitting around for very long stretches of time and days without a recoupling, without a challenge, without a day. And so when the texts come in,
Starting point is 00:59:54 they're always over-enthusbanded when the texts come in, but it's like, I feel like they got stranded on an island there and there's like no one, they're actually like producing them. The people are producing in the editing room and they're making a show that way, but like I don't feel like there's people, like where are the chaperones? Yeah, no, it definitely feels, so this news, like, does sort of track.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I thought it was just about the app crash and they lost a day of action. Maybe. Maybe that too. And so it got a little long in the tooth because we had an extra day of chats. They let us know that tonight's episode, we will get to vote. And I'm just like, I'm not going to be so easily swayed. They obviously produce the show when they're voting to get a certain vote. And I'm sorry, I will, I'm not getting, I'm not falling for that again.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah, but also, I don't think it's going to be the same sort of vote. I think it's going to be like, who should be. go on a date. Vomit. You know, it's not going to be like a recouple sort or any sort of high stakes vote. It's going to be like, who's your number one?
Starting point is 01:00:50 And then they'll do a challenge where they tell everyone who they like the least. And it's like, we didn't say who we like the least. We said who we like the most. And then this person got the least of line out of votes for like the most. That doesn't mean they're the villain. That's what they do.
Starting point is 01:01:01 They're disgusting. Oh, my. Dusting. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment every Tuesday. Jackie and I like to give back to our. community by helping out the swirlies in need right into us. Deertoasters at gmail.com. You can shoot us an email there or head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com. Scroll down, there's a little
Starting point is 01:01:18 deer toaster submission box, totally anonymous. Both methods are completely given equal chance of getting selected. Hey Jackson Claude. We actually had a lot of submissions this week that like the Knicks playoffs and like the NBA playoffs and the Knicks winning like affected their lives. Okay. And here's one of them. Ready? Hey Jackson Claude. I'm a New York City swirlie here who seemed to have a little too much fun last week. I met this guy through a mutual friend while watching the Knicks game, game three at a bar. Long story short, I ended up taking him home and having sex with him. To make matters even more interesting, it was my first time having sex.
Starting point is 01:01:45 We ended up sleeping together again after both game four and game five, but I'm worried that we're not going to see each other as much now, that the Knicks aren't playing. I do think we're very compatible, but there hasn't been much communication after the win on Saturday. Searching for any advice on how to handle the situation because I'd love to see him more. Sincerely, a newest, Nick's biggest fan. See him more than three times? Like she wants to now go out, but like it seems like she's sort of been to,
Starting point is 01:02:08 renegated to like NBA finals girl. She's phrasing it. I feel like I'm not going to see him as much. It's like I feel like I'm never going to see him again because there's not another Knicks game. And you haven't spoken. I mean, give a shot. And you didn't know each other before the first encounter.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Mutual friend. So let me tell you like because I believe you're probably like attached because it's the first person you've had sex with. Like that's a very normal thing to be. It's, I would say it's most likely like you're never going to see or speak to him again. And if it is, it's just to have sex. Like that's sort of the box that you put yourself in by just. seeing him three times and having sex three times.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Like that's just how unfortunately the world works. I would give it one shot. Like, just say to me like, hey, when I grab drinks, like try once, but I wouldn't have high expectations.
Starting point is 01:02:50 That's what I was going to say. Throw a Hail Mary, like make a joke like, hey, I heard, you know, the golf championships are on. And you guys can have this running joke about like using sports
Starting point is 01:02:59 as a way to see each other. You could become a really big Yankees fan. Yeah, no, but like you could just like throw a joke. There are plenty of sporting events on. So like if you guys, if it's your thing that you need sporting event in order to see each other just like you could find one on any given it.
Starting point is 01:03:12 The World Cup. The World Cup. So you should text him, put yourself out there because the worst is that like he's not feeling and doesn't want to see you. And that would be the same if you put yourself out there or you didn't because he doesn't want to see you and never see him. Try once. But after that, like take the head.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Yeah. These lessons are learned the hard way. Yeah. But the World Cup would be like a really good one because there's multiple games. And by the end of the World Cup, like you should probably, he should be your boyfriend. If you play your card. That's a good goal. Yeah, or it's not.
Starting point is 01:03:39 But stop having sex. Like, why don't you go out and do stuff? Yeah, and then be like, oh, I have an early morning tomorrow. Like, let's skip tonight. And then, hey, Brazil's playing Senegal. Senegal. Next up, dear toasters. Claudia, I already know what you're going to say.
Starting point is 01:03:53 He's gay. Which actually I might agree with you on. When I was eight months pregnant, already married for a year and a half at that point, I got a DM from a girl saying she had a history with my husband before he and I met. And he added her on Snapchat last night under a different name and she thought I should know. Well, God bless her. I confronted him about it. Made him log in.
Starting point is 01:04:07 I was going to look. but what I found was 10 months worth of messages with guys. Pictures, videos, nasty messages. This started three months after we got married and I was destroyed. He had a porn problem, which I knew about when we dated, but he said it was minor and in control and he stopped. He said his porn addiction never stopped and ultimately led to online sites and chatting. Gets worse.
Starting point is 01:04:26 He actually got a blowjob twice from one of the guys he's been messaging. The second time was the night before my baby shower and he swears he's not gay. Which is pregnant? Yeah, we're still together, but my heart and my head are not in it. He's been going to therapy, working on himself. We now have a seven-month-old baby girl. She's my everything. I do not love my husband.
Starting point is 01:04:42 But I cannot stand the thought of not being with my baby girl every day. I don't think I could get full custody just based on his infidelity. If I didn't have a baby, I would have left him a long time ago. It's so easy to say leave him, but I love my baby so much and I don't want to have to be away from her because of his mistake and his addiction. What would you do? First of all, I love you and I love everything you're saying. And I agree with you. Full custody is not guaranteed.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I feel like it has to be really extenuating circumstances these days for like it to be complete full custody. So yeah, you're sacrificing your own happiness for your baby. And like that's what a mother does. And it's also two different. It's two versions of happiness. It's like happiness to be away from him or happiness to be with your baby every single day. And I think the second one is better.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And especially based on what you're saying. Yeah. I also think that there's like a sort of piece that comes with realizing like I don't like my husband. Like you don't have when you still are attached, like that's actually what makes it harder. So you're completely detached. And I feel like for your sanity, that's actually amazing. You're basically just like living with someone, like roommates.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And you know what? Like he's out here on sites like chatting. Like girl, you kind of have like a free pass. Like I'm an affair. But also you have a seven month old. Like maybe like you don't have to. But like the freedom of like knowing that you have a partner who has like his own things going on. He's not even paying attention to you.
Starting point is 01:05:53 You have no feelings left for him. Like you do not love him. You said that. Like that's kind of a freeing feeling. Like just sort of do what do your own thing. Yeah. And be with your baby. And you're basically splitting rent.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Every day. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a roommate. And your baby is. with her father, which is good too, I guess. But I'm with her mother every day. Well, of course. Which she needs.
Starting point is 01:06:12 But I'm saying your baby's in an intact home. She don't know. Dad's on sites. Yeah. So I would say ignore. Yeah, I would say ignore. Keep doing what you're doing. And like genuinely like fall in love.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah. Have a like go like having a fair. You basically have an at home babysitter. Like you can watch the nan it while you go out with the girls. Maybe like he'll get like so, you know, like pent up in front. frustrated and like that he'll eventually like leave and move to another state and go find a lover and like you get what you want yeah yeah no for this I would play the long hand yeah maybe like you're doing the right thing set him up with like a pen pal in another country oh let's catfish him
Starting point is 01:06:57 so that he eventually leaves the country he obviously can't take the child and then you steal his passport the night before he leaves no no you want him to go Oh, sorry, no, no, you go visit him And you steal his passport on your way out So he can never return back That's a good plan. Like you go visit him with the baby Because he can't get a replacement passport
Starting point is 01:07:18 At that point, it's like, well, I'm happy Being free and gay in Senegal. Yeah, who needs a passport? Yeah, yeah, focus on number one and number two. Agreed, no, you're doing the right thing, You're an amazing mama and your daughter will thank you one day Like you're doing what you're supposed to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Yeah. All right. Our third and final. My boyfriend of five years, who I'm definitely marrying, and is going to be the father of my children, has made it clear that he's very anti-circumcision. He himself is uncircised. He's Norwegian. So that's the cultural norm.
Starting point is 01:07:49 He also plays hockey. And in hockey, a lot of guys are uncircised because they're Canadian and European. So for him, it's super normal. And let's not forget, natural. Unfortunately, I'm going to touch Waspie. Very Charlotte York in that episode with the uncircumcised guy. So it's been five years and he's such a pigeon. I'm actually startled every time I see him soft.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I've mentioned to him that uncircised penis for my son is not a dream and he's been understanding but he said it's important to him and that penis stuff is more in the dad territory which I get like if there was any call to be made with my daughter's body he would 100% defer to me. Should I just get on board? The problem with taking a hard line is I risk offending him in his uncircumcised story.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Love you so much. Also, Tertie, I saw you on the street recently and you looked paper thin. Oh my God. I did not add that sentence and I swear to God. Wait, so they're just dating right now or they're married? Yeah. No, they're dating. but for five years. There's so many things.
Starting point is 01:08:38 First of all, you could be blessed with only daughters. This could be a non-issue. Yeah. Okay, but say it's not. You could end up not marrying. Yeah, but let's say you do get... Say they're married and they had a son on the way. So I want to say, like, your comparison of being like,
Starting point is 01:08:52 well, if we had a daughter and there was something to do with her body, it would be my choice, but because we ever saw it would be his choice. No. It's actually your choice either way. Yeah. And I want you to know that your, the ultimate decision, like, is your... to make. I do think there are a couple of things you could do to sort of guarantee you get your outcome. Like you could convert to Judaism. I think that would sort of fix his right up.
Starting point is 01:09:14 What if he's an anti-Semite? Well then you should know now. You should not be having babies with him. It's actually a two for one special. You get your uncircumcised penis and you find it. It's a test. I think it's a very good advice. I think you say that it's important to you. And like if it's important to him too. It's more important to you. And like when you've had that baby and like it happens in infancy. And so that, like, you get all the say when you've just delivered a baby, you know? Yeah. The circumcision conversation is so interesting. And I feel like pretty good about it because, like, I don't have a choice, you know, like my religion. But if you do have a choice, America's like really kind of one of the only countries where it's standard practice,
Starting point is 01:09:54 medically. But more and more people are not doing it. Yes. So it's, we are sort of the outlier on this. Like not everyone else. But I can relate to like very much wanting your child to be circumcised. So like how do you make that happen for yourself? And I think you just have to be like really honest. And don't make and if it comes up that he's like, well, I'm not circumcised and you don't mind. Just be like, well, like I have no choice in that.
Starting point is 01:10:19 And I love you and I know you and I'm not going to let something like that come in between us. But this is what I want for my child. It's what I've always wanted. And I need to know that you're okay with that. And you know what? Like, why don't you guys focus like on getting engaged? You're just dating for five. years like girl it's time and I think also you're talking about hypothetical children's genitalia you don't
Starting point is 01:10:38 even have an engagement ring yeah and how this conversation goes I think will speak to like a lot of like important disagreements that you might have along the way there are a lot of decisions to be made with your children that people are going to have strong feelings for or against along the way and how you handle them like really will show if if you can be parents together like see each other compromise on the things that are less. You have to pick and choose your battles. I think this is one worth picking for you, but it will like speak to other.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I can think of like so many things that are huge decisions that you have to make for kids. Oh my God, of course. And like the ideal is that whoever you marry, you're just sort of like aligned on. But I do think more often than not, like you defer to the mother. Like you just do.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Sorry, mothers and fathers ain't equal. And I'm good with that. No, they're not. I agree. I agree. Like sorry, I don't want equal rights. Like, I'm better and different in certain ways. I want mothers rights. Yes. Like, yeah, we defer to me. You carry the suitcases. Okay. I'll carry the baby. Yeah, like, sorry. That's like, biologically, like, you're physically stronger. You carry the suitcases. Biologically, like, I have like a maternal instinct of gut that, like, is unparalleled. Like, I'm connected. Like, we are the same temperature me and the baby. Like, what are you talking about? We're not equal. I don't want to be equal.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Yeah. I agree. That's like the other day I said to Ben. And I do think that sometimes, like after a woman has gone through pregnancy, has a baby, like, the men get it. And they're like, they're like, oh, okay. This is not my domain at the moment. Like, this is between a mother and her baby. And I'm happy and lucky to be a part of it.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Yeah. So when, God willing, one day the day comes that you do get pregnant, like, just be really dramatic about it. Like, oh. I know, but I do feel like if your partner doesn't see that, they do see it. How can you miss it? Like it's a complete transformation. You're turned inside out. You're a different person.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And they're just like, hey, you know? Yeah. And so I feel like it sort of writes itself because like everything sort of falls into place because they understand that it's not the same to be a mother and to be a father. Yeah. Well, that's our show, you guys. Thank you for writing into Deer Toaster. Thank you to everyone for listening to the Toastle a morning morning show where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube.
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