The Toast - The Balenciaga Ick: Monday, November 28th, 2022

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everyone had a fabulous holiday weekend. Hey, Jax. How you doing? I'm doing great. I had a great holiday weekend. I've missed everyone here at The Toast. It's been a nice break, but I'm so excited and ready and happy to be back. I can't believe Thanksgiving was like four days ago and we haven't spoken since Thanksgiving.

No, and also the way we like left the episode on Wednesday with, I didn't even realize people were so invested in the Dear Toaster saga. Like the way we just did that and then I'm not having another episode until Monday. And thank God we got an update. So if you're following us on Instagram, good for you because you weren't left wondering all weekend what happened to the girl with her dog. We posted an update and it was really jarring she got her dog back she made her husband listen to the episode so he could see how psychotic his behavior was and two people who have no particular

stake in the matter think that his behavior is wild so maybe sometimes you just have to see yourself sometimes you need a big mirror and um where he left the dog for those wondering he hired a dog sitter on rover which is like fine but like not not you know not really it's like a stranger not when you have two like loving parents at home who are available and wanting to be with their dog right right um so it was a fabulous holiday weekend I saw you really turned it out with your hosting skills it looked beautiful it was it all really went according to plan. Like I did so much prep the night before as much as I could do. I actually wish that I had done even more. And I

definitely had some learnings for next year. Like first biggest learning is all of the herbs. I would pre-chop all of them. I would have a bowl that was rosemary, a bowl that was thyme because chopping it per recipe was brutal. And that was like one of the tedious things that really got to me. So I'd have a huge bowl of chopped thyme, chopped rosemary, chopped oregano, whatever chops are needed. Because I did prep most of the veggies.

Like I sliced all of my squash with my mandolin. Did you see my circular squash? I did those sweet potato stacks. They were really, really cool. And I did as much as I could, but I probably could have have done even more prep but the day of cooking was so much fun Olivia came over with the kids we cooked even more it was just really like a classic Thanksgiving and I do feel like Thanksgiving changes once you have kids it just takes on a whole new meaning and also you want to start like new traditions and it's just really fun and really

sweet and I have to say we watched the parade from start to finish because we are now up at those hours and it was so amazing first of all Harry's not someone that you could just like put in front at least not yet I think he's still a little young you can't like put in front of the tv yet and he's in trance for more than five minutes. He loved the parade. The way he loved this parade, I've never really seen him so invested in something. It made me want to set new goals for myself and work really hard so that I can go to the parade one day

for work and get a backstage access. Or we could get someone's apartment on Central Park West. Did you see there were a few people who tagged us in their setups? They didn't invite us, but they tagged us bragging about their setups. But no, I like, I, of course he would never turn down a park view and sitting next to a fireplace all cozied up. But like, I want to get us on the sidelines one year. And I feel like as a podcaster as a host

as an influencer like it's not that crazy there are so many different like brands and networks that like activate there and so that's a new goal of mine and I don't want to be like in the back row like Harry doesn't like well let me let me tell you like it's a great goal sideline or bust it's a great goal but I do think it's worth mentioning that like, I think the Thanksgiving day parade is like many, you know, big televised events, like actually better to watch from home. Um, like the Superbowl, you know, it's a lot of people's dream to go to the Superbowl. Let me tell you, I've been twice and it's way better on TV. You don't even get to see the commercials when you're there. Good luck seeing the halftime show. It's not, it's not like a concert. It's made for TV. The microphones aren't even on.

They're plugged into the TV. But the experience is better. Like honestly, when we went to the Super Bowl, that was a much more amazing experience than having a Super Bowl party at home. If I was someone who's so invested in the game and don't want a distraction, I just want to be like zoomed in on my favorite players.

Yeah, I probably want to watch from home, but it was the experience. But I do think those seats, those stands where their people are where the performers perform in one part of the parade and then there's like bleachers behind them those seats or bust because those people get the performances it's up close there's not that many seats so that's what I'm interested in or bust for me the Super Bowl like the weekend was so fun, like because it was very like celebrity like pop in and there was lots of cool events. But when it comes to actually like watching something, I think a lot of the times it's

better to do from home, like even the Thanksgiving Day Parade. We've went to the parade because we live in New York, obviously. We've like, you know, tried to like spectate. Every street is closed. It's freezing. You can never get to where you need to go it's like low-key torture I just think it's one of those things that might be better in theory than in practice I'm saying like I want to get to Al Roker's seat and then you can enjoy the parade

I think I'd rather be caught like at Central Park West on someone's gorgeous balcony with a fireplace a spread of food, you know? I think that's more my vibe. Now there's an outdoor fireplace on the balcony? Hmm? Now there's an outdoor fireplace on the balcony? Did I say that? You said, yeah, on someone's balcony with a fireplace.

Well, yeah, if they have a balcony, I could go outside. I get a little cold, I go inside to the fireplace. There's a smorgasbord inside. Maybe we're playing board games. We're listening to music it's very comfortable but then if I really wanted to like really see the balloons up close I'd go on their gorgeous balcony understood I'm not picky though if you have a balcony or not a balcony you could still invite me I just I need to see pics before maybe next year we'll have like more

generous toasters who want to invite you to their setup because people were tagging us in their gorgeous setups but nary an invite was scored nary an invite but that's the thing it's like if somebody actually had invited me to like a premium spot I would have had to show up two days before because the streets are closed like you can't even get to your building when you actually live near the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade it is laced with a little bit of torture yes oh for sure for sure for sure and it's cold I had one more thought about oh no I had a lingering question when was the second time you went to the Super Bowl we went to Minnesota Minnesota yeah of course could never forget do we only do it once the breath yeah it was one you know it was a moment

in time oh really I don't know why I thought we went like we something we did like CMAs like every year no I know I only went once but I thought maybe you went another time. No then I've only been with you. Right? Yeah I've only been once. Okay I guess I've only been once and it was enough for me honestly Diana. No I like got the experience. It was amazing. So glad that I had it. I'm not running to do it again. Right. And after the holiday, I went to Brian's horse farm. And when I tell you I'm not OK, I did not realize like when I was riding the horse, I went riding on Saturday, how incapacitated I would be when I tell you I can't even sit on the toilet. Like I'm in so much pain right now. The back of my thighs, it's like it's a tightness I've never felt like the way this horse was just

throwing me around. And it was fun until I woke up the next morning. I'm not okay. How long was your ride? 30 minutes. Yeah. It's a lot of leg muscle. I was trotting and trotting is like, you have to hoist yourself up and your legs.

And I'm feeling every bounce. Is Snitch as well? No, Snitch is totally fine. Maybe that's because she actually works out. And like for me, I was exercising muscles in the back of my legs that haven't been exercised since I was in the womb. Did Ben horseback ride? No.

He's not into it, you know? Yeah. I feel like he tries everything. It's so scary. It is scary. No. I mean, not in such a controlled environment. No, actually, Ben doesn't try everything.

Like Ben very much gives into his fears. Like for my 21st birthday, Ben planned this like twisted day where like we went, we went to a trampoline park, we went to a trapeze class, and we also went to somewhere else. And in the trapeze class, like you have to climb up this rickety ass ladder. It's like 100 feet in the air. The ladder is the scariest part of the trip. And then once you get up there, you just jump up into the net.

Ben went up the ladder, got up there and went back down the ladder, which is scarier than just jumping off. I have an image seared in my mind of Ben hanging from the thing. So that was a different time. So in our family, we have this like inside joke about this one picture of Ben. Because when Ben was working at an ad agency like 10 years ago, they did like a team offsite, like team building where they went trapezing and he did it then. And he's wearing this harness and he's flying through the air and they take a picture of him. It's like a souvenir. And Ben looks so weird in the photo. Like it

doesn't even look like him. I think actually Olivia has posted it on her Instagram before, like for Ben's birthday. Our family, we're obsessed with this photo you guys when I tell you it does not look like Ben and he was wearing this harness that was like really digging into his hips and giving him like kind of like a feminine physique and it's just the funniest fucking picture um so that's the image you're thinking of but when me and Ben trapeze that was after that and it was he Ben did not do it by the way you guys are so similar because that's literally you with the leap of faith yeah when we were kids we all went to Atlantis we used to love Atlantis we did the leap of faith and Claudia the first time we went she did not do it she never did it with us and then you once went back with Ben and you did it no I didn't go back with Ben I went

back with my friends from high school in the 11th grade and let me tell you something about that dumb fucking water slide not worth it don't do it like everyone in the family was like making fun of me like I can't believe you didn't do it I was like okay and then I did it I'm like this shit sucks like I got a fucking wedgie I didn't even get a good picture of myself going down the slide because like I was taking pictures on a digital camera I'm like this is a thing my sister's like tormented me for for all these years it fucking blows I mean it's not the greatest time but it's a vertical water slide like it's a leap of faith and you're taking it yeah or you're not yeah and

I took it I was like okay now what and also it's so many stairs that when you do get to the top it behooves you to just go down the slide then go back down the stairs I actually don't remember being such a treacherous journey down. How do you think you got up? No, I'm saying, like, I don't remember the stairs being, because you know me, like, I'll avoid stairs at all costs. But it wasn't, like, that crazy of a set of stairs, because if it was, I would have gone down the slide.

Okay. I remember it was extremely scary. No, they were definitely stairs, but they weren't, like, crazy steep. They were, like, wide and shallow. No, like, I remember I remember life like by the stairs I had to take you know and I'm almost like a hundred percent sure they weren't that crazy but think about how tall the thing is and the whole way up is stairs so even if they're not like horrible stairs it's a lot of stairs yeah it was better than going down the dumb ass fucking

slide okay it was literally so dumb like the whole trip oh god I'm gonna do it like shut up sorry I didn't mean to trigger you we haven't no actually i'm glad you brought it up because honestly it makes the sisters look bad it doesn't make me look bad like the way everybody was fucking dragging me to filth the whole vacation and we used to love atlantis we would go back every year and it was like every year like man we're glad in it shut the fuck up you ugly wenches okay it's not a big fucking deal yeah well and then i did it and then I did it when I was like 16 I was like grown I was like you know what everyone dragged me like let's just fucking do it and you know what it was a big nothing burger a big waste of my time damn but

literally I still have carpet burn on my butthole from the way my underwear went riding up that's what sisters are for no like seriously fuck you guys like the way you literally made me sick you literally tortured me sick you literally tortured me over this stupid fucking slide if you don't feel that way about your sisters at some point in your life then you're just not sisters no that's definitely true you know and we don't really fight much as adults so we got it all out on the leap of faith we got it all out on the slide we did leave it on the slide we should go back we really we felt like mary-kate and ashley of course when we went like the first time we were so excited that's like whenever we had a family

vacation there was no place else we wanted to go like we were atlantis or bust obsessed it's an amazing resort it's an amazing resort like they really have everything for the kids for the campers for the parents like there's casinos So like when you take your kids, you can get lit. We went back in 2017 right before my wedding for like a little family getaway. But we went to the Cove, which is the adult hotel. So I think if we went back to Atlantis proper now, we would think it's like kind of like gross because it's like it's really for kids. Yeah, no, but they have a new facility called the Cove,

which is like adults only think you have to be 21 plus. They have their own pools and it's really premium no but now like you wait until you have kids and then you go again with your kids and then it's a whole nother experience again i can't say enough good things about the atlantis even though the new hotel in the bahamas where we went for my bachelorette is giving it a run for its money but bahamar like the young professionals crew not families as much because they don't have the leap of faith. So yeah, I did the leap of faith. Like that's all to say.

Great. I'm so glad I did it. You conquered your fears, McClard. No, I've conquered my fears, especially when I travel with Brian. Like he's always like, you know, making me face my fears. And like it does feel really good afterwards. Like you feel really proud of yourself. I don't remember feeling that with a leap of faith.

I actually remember like feeling a lot of resentment for like my childhood trauma. I think that's kind of what took over. But it is really nice as an adult to actually face your fears like you with your driving. Yes, I'm on the cusp of getting my license, you guys. And it's so crazy. This thing that has is rewarding. This thing that has evaded me and tortured me for like 15 years soon hopefully will be at an end and then the world is my oyster it's just a really

crazy feeling I can't explain you could run away if you wanted to I'm hoping to well I could always have done that called an uber um I'm hoping to have my paperwork like by the end of the year that's my goal and then this will be like the first time in 15 years that getting my license is not my New Year's resolution. I think that's beautiful. And all it took was 15 years. That's it. You know what?

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I don't need anything. And then like, I do do need shit I really should have started keeping a list we did that this year I it's a mistake because I'm like I don't need anything I'm so blessed but I really do need shit yeah we started a week ago just like thinking of like things that we need and waiting till Cyber Monday so the list is only really two items, but important. New TV. We're getting that today. And I need new headphones for this job here. And so Cyber Monday. Cyber Monday. Back to resolutions. I don't think I've actually ever had a resolution that I kept with, you know?

And of course, always every year my resolution is like, you know, eat a little healthier um but I started doing that over the summer so it's not really a resolution yeah it wasn't like a January thing right I just feel like it's so cliche you know like I think like making a change in your life in July is more impressive than making a change in your life in January I agree it is pretty cliche but it's just a good like reminder to like reaffirm opportunity to reaffirm your goals and also just like to self-assess and be like even if I don't change anything on January 2nd just like know what I should change even if I don't do it like you gotta know I know like not to be like so annoying like I really can't think of anything I really don't like about myself that's beautiful McClard I mean

I'm sure you could come up with like a list of things or any of the listeners. Claudia, you should be a lot nicer. No, actually, I'm OK. I'm OK. No, nothing comes to mind a habit of yours that you could kick. Oh, I guess like. Nah. No, I know what you're going to say. No.

Yeah, because you could do that whenever. It's not like dependent on the time of year. Yeah, no. And like I have a plan, you know. Oh, that's nice yeah like you know my life is I mean you know man plans got laughs but I have a schedule for my life a rough idea you know yeah yeah and I think like when the day comes that I decide to like start trying to get pregnant which I don't think it's gonna be like super soon but it's not like super far I think I will leave all my shenanigans behind me. And until then, like, I'm going to go party.

Like, I'm going to smoke a vape. Like, if somebody offers me a cigarette, like, maybe I'll fucking smoke it, you know? Like, because I can. And because that would look really cool. Yeah. No, I mean, I want to be cool. So I have no choice other than to smoke a cigarette. Totally.

Oh, so for today's show, we obviously have the Fast Five stories. I'm sure we're going to talk about kim and valenciaga um but we also have tv recap i caught up on white lotus this morning and it's crazy and you watched yellowstone and i watched yellowstone yes another weekend where white lotus evaded me but i'm kind of liking like two birds. Let me tell you something about White Lotus. Actually, it's really two birds, two stones. Right. Efficient. I think, like, this show, and specifically this season,

will be so enjoyable to someone who binges it. Like, nothing really happens episode over episode. But, like, watching it all as a unit, there's a lot of excitement. But, like, something finally crazy happened. Like, the last second of last night's episode, I like thank god for this incest you know yeah did you watch anything else or read anything else good this weekend before we jump in oh you know what movie I saw for the first time Age of Adaline oh when I saw Snitch was showing it to you I didn't realize you hadn't seen it and I had one thing to say spoiler alert dead calves

no I was very very upset when we saw it as kids in the theater we were we're clamped beside ourselves I couldn't believe Margaret it was a cute movie you know like I'd never seen it whatever I'd seen like things about it on TikTok I knew like she never aged or whatever yeah it's like Tuck Everlasting with Blake Lively right Right. I love Tuck Everlasting. Niche reference. And with the guy, Dario Naharis. From Game of Thrones and Harrison Ford. So it was stacked and it was very good.

It was a cute movie, but like, I don't know why they had to have the storyline of her like having cavaliers throughout her life and like watching them die a slow, painful death. It was so upsetting. And overall, I had to give the movie zero stars because of it, even though it was like a death it was so upsetting and overall I had to give the movie zero stars because of it even though it was like a it was a fine film it's yeah it's a fine film that's all I remember from it obviously it's star-studded and it's a pleasure to watch but like it will if especially if you are and it's not just cavaliers like it's King Charles Cavalier Spaniels

and if that is your breed and they're blend them if that is your breed of choice like trigger warning stay away literal trigger warning mark jackie the second i saw the dog i turned to margo because i'm like this dog's gonna die because like oh the dog's not eating like i knew it yeah apparently there's a website you can go to called like does the dog die.com and you search the movie you're about to watch just to make sure like the dog doesn't die. And people use it as like a barometer for what they will watch and what they won't watch. That's fucking funny. I know. When I was talking on Instagram about how upset I was about this film,

somebody messaged me. They were like, there's a website, doesthedogdie.com. That's really funny. Okay, cool. Tip of the day. Tip of the day. Also, I did get some clarity about the King Charles Cavalier Spaniel and that episode of

The Crown with the Romanovs and whether or not there was a King Charles Cavalier Spaniel that was murdered. And there was. Anastasia had a King Charles Cavalier Spaniel and I read a whole ass book about her and they never mentioned that. So you really can't trust what you're reading. So true. Reading is bad. But on the plus side, there was one dog named Joy that escaped and wasn't murdered along with the others and went on to live like a royal life in England because they knew he was the little boy's dog and he got the royal treatment over in the UK. So that's something.

Something. So all in all, it was a fabulous weekend for both of us. I conclude, correct? Yes, you may conclude you may draw that conclusion conclusion drawn and I'm excited

I have a we have a lot of stories and have a lot of thoughts on the stories me too so without I know you do further a do-do-do-do

do without further a do-do-do-do-do where are the Stryce brothers still not here they had a jam-packed weekend full of holiday fun, full of getting scraps from Thanksgiving. Bruno is in heaven.

It's his favorite holiday year after year. He scores big time. So for that reason, the tryptophan will not allow him to work. Oh, let me tell you the tryptophan like really hit me this year. I ate and then fell asleep on Ben's parents' couch. Wow. Like I couldn't believe it. But how come there's no tryptophan when you have, like, turkey slices?

Such a good question. I think, by the way, I was trying to tell everyone. Oh, wait, hold on. I have to tell you that, like, on Wednesday night, me and Ben went out to dinner. And we actually haven't been out to dinner, just us two, in a really long time. So it was really nice. And, you know, we are married and we do spend, like, our time together and like when I tell you like we don't always have like a million things to talk about like I'm just being honest um and I brought up every single

talking point from our Patreon episode of I was like did you hear about the Beyond Meat Farm I was literally like and he thought I was like so smart and tell him how I knew all of this and he never listens to the toast so he'll never know but I was literally like we were talking about FTX we were talking about condom usage I was like throwing out these like really interesting stories that we could have like interesting conversation about because earlier in the day we recorded our annual Thanksgiving Patreon episode um and I was like it was so helpful like for me and now I'm really realizing like why people have looked forward to the episode every year because like if you cannot think of anything to talk about and you just listen to a

podcast like you're going to talk about what they talked about on the podcast yeah so true also with holiday season and just family time in general that episode is extremely pertinent it's like stories that are people are talking about so you can have like a little bit of knowledge on but also just like some random stories and factoids that you can bring up at the table when there's a dearth of conversation or things are getting awkward I got so many messages and saw comments from people being like literally things got awkward and political and I brought up the Scrabble story and it completely diverted the conversation 100% and the episode is so entertaining because Jackie was being like particularly unhinged and people were eating it up I was eating it up so it's a great episode to listen to and

we dropped another Patreon this weekend. I finally, I've never filmed it before. I don't know why. I finally did like a full video on my hair, like from wet hair to styled hair, like all the products I use, my techniques. So that will live in perpetuity on the Patreon. So whenever anyone asks me,

I'm like glad I have it filmed now. So it's a vlog and then we have podcast episode. There's one more episode coming out this month. It's just a great time to be a Patreon member patron member totally Zach and I went on a date night last week we hadn't been on a date night in six months so there was a lot to talk about but we played a really fun game that if um if anyone who's going on a date night new parents especially and they're running out of things to talk about and it's time to pick up your phones here's the game find the cutest picture of your kid on your phone and then we choose who

wins honestly that's so funny it was so much fun then we played round after round I saw this tiktok of this couple going out to dinner like for the first time since having their baby and they just spent the whole meal crying um because they like somebody the husband had like read a quote that like really like was it like emotional for him and he shared it with the wife and then they spent the whole meal crying one day you're gonna pick up your child like physically pick him up for the last time oh I was thinking about that recently not about picking him up but there's gonna be like something oh like one like he was like crying through breakfast this morning it was just like random and I was like one day he's gonna

like he's gonna cry like a baby for the last time was just like random. And I was like, one day he's going to like, he's going to cry like a baby for the last time. And then like the next time, you know, like how babies just cry like unreasonably. Yeah. And the next time like he cries, it will be because like there was something. Something happened. Right.

But like not one day. I mean, I think kids cry for a while about nothing, but I was just thinking that. You have that to look forward to. Yeah. I always think about that. Like one day it's just going to be the last time I'm going to realize about something.

What a heavenly to. Yeah. I always think about that. Like one day. Is just going to be the last time. I'm not even going to realize. About something. What a heavenly thought. Yeah. But then you have new things. To look forward to. He's going to do something. For the first time. Puberty. He's going to do something.

For the first time. Everyone just like. Don't settle. Like you could think of everything. As like. Sad. And like. Sentimental.

And negative. Or like. Positive. And exciting. And optimistic. I will say. Like. When. You know exciting and optimistic. I will say like when, you know, God willing,

I should be blessed with having children and they're going through puberty. Like I will be leaving until they, they're, they're better. Like I'm so not interested in like hormones and like their voices cracking. And like, I think with a girl I could handle it. Cause like I am a girl and like,

I just, if she's being a wench, like I understand why and like gets her period. I can help with that um but like I'm just literally not interested in like helping young people through puberty it sounds miserable even if I'm related to them yes but I also feel like I don't remember puberty as being like that miserable and that like moody for no reason like I feel like anytime like we were all like moody or like unhappy or had something going on like there was tangible reasons as to why and I read all these books about like kids going through puberty and they're just like monsters for no reason yeah I

feel like obviously all kids are different I feel like it's a little overhyped I guess we'll have to wait and see and they say that girls are actually more difficult to handle going through puberty boys they have more physical changes, but it's less emotional. Girls, you're living with like a psychological terrorist. Right, right. No, and then like there's just so many things like bras, pads and tampons. Like there's lots of accoutrement, accessories. I think you'll be surprised at how equipped you are.

Yeah, because I'm just going to close my door. Like seriously, you're going gonna act like that i can't i don't negotiate with terrorists okay well now without further a do-do-do-do-do here are the fast five stories that you did it do need to know on this glorious monday as we usher in the holiday season. Here we... That yiddit did it do need to knit it did it do. You do need to knit it did it do them. You do. You also need to knit it did it do.

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You're welcome. First story, Kim Kardashian has broken her silence on the controversy surrounding Balenciaga. So after days, we reported on Wednesday the beginnings of this story, several ad campaigns, there's a new ad campaign from Balenciaga and then people went into the archives and found former ad campaigns by Balenciaga that are extremely concerning, and concerning, they're extremely concerning and they concern child sexual abuse. It's been now five days since everything emerged. And Kim released a statement last night with her thoughts on the matter.

She said, quote, I have been quiet for the past few days, not because I haven't been disgusted and outraged by the recent Balenciaga campaigns, but because I wanted an opportunity to speak to their team to understand for myself how this could have happened as a mother of four I have been shaken by the disturbing images the safety of children must be held with the highest regard and any attempts to normalize child abuse of any kind should have no place in our society period I appreciate Balenciaga's removal of the campaigns and apology in speaking with them I believe they understand the seriousness of the issue and will take the necessary measures for this to never happen again. Then 40 minutes later, she posted 52. 52 minutes later, she posted, as for my future with Balenciaga, I am currently reevaluating my relationship with the brand, basing it off their

willingness to accept accountability for something that should have never happened to begin with and the actions I'm expecting to see them take to protect children. Okay, so I feel like this is a really layered issue, but I do want to just say like my overall sentiment towards Kim's reaction to this is, wow, like what a letdown. I mean, it's not like a hot take whether this is like right or wrong. Like this is uncategorically, if that's a word, wrong.

And categorically wrong. Sure's a word, wrong. Categorically wrong. Sure. I respect the hustle. For me, I get throwing your values out the window for some money. I really do. I can be bought. But I feel like we draw the line at children. We draw the line at children.

So I feel so disappointed in Kim. Her first statement was trash then she deleted it and re-uploaded it and added disgusted like literally she added one word then I guess she saw like the immediate reaction from people was like you're kidding right and because she didn't even address her relationship with the brand in the first statement then an hour later put up something like to appease people and it was still not even remotely taking a stand and I just really want to point out like people being like well I thought you guys are against cancel culture like this is not cancel culture like this is so twisted and sick like no it's okay like this

is not cancel culture whatsoever like that would be like us being like against being uh anti Jeffrey Epstein because we're anti cancel culture like right no this is a full-grown crime like let's not get it twisted this isn't the same as somebody's tweets from 10 years ago there's not I guess we don't have a line in our society anymore that's very clear-cut but for me it will always be like it is do you protect children are you exploiting children are you is this is so inappropriate for me with Kim like anything short of I will no longer be associating with this nasty ass brand is a big fat nope for me I really like I'm so disappointed I guess is the word and I'm also just like icked the fuck out I also want to say

like this Balenciaga era that she was in like doesn't give much to begin with so the fact that she can't walk away from it is lame as fuck the clothes are ugly the looks are done they're old and they're tired and this would have been a great honestly excuse for her to be done with the whole thing in general because it's been old and tired for a while sure there's probably contractual reasons why you can't just walk away but kim's a billionaire fucking figure it out and i'm really like i find this nasty no i know and like i'm and i do want to say like i oh and by the way by the way if i mean not balenciaga because they're clearly you know don't know where the line is with child sexual abuse but if this was a brand who had

hired a spokesperson and the spokesperson had behaved nefariously they would have canceled her in two fucking seconds so why doesn't it ever work the other way right the difference here is like when uh when a spokesperson like usually we have these situations where it's like the spokesperson is the one who's in hot water and the brand can drop the spokesperson I can't remember a time in recent history where the spokesperson dropped the brand. So this is like uncharted territories. I was thinking the same thing. And also like, I hate everything that Kim did.

And I think it's like, I agree, 100% disappointing. But I also think it's important to remember there's so many celebrities who work with Melissa Young. Alexa Demi, Nicole Kidman, literally. Like, we need to have that energy for everyone. And Kim deserves, you know, more of the conversation because she's Kim. No, and also like the Alexa Demi fans

can go and hold her accountable. Like I am a Kim fan. Like everyone else, I mean, maybe Nicole Kidman. Like, yeah, say something, girl. I love you. But like everyone else, yeah, their fans should hold them accountable and want to see better from them

and the brands that they associate with for me like that's Kim for me and so I'm really only invested in what she has to say because I care about her in general yeah um agreed I think this whole saga is so weird because you know people on the internet especially celebrities like they love to use their platform to like you know galvanize around an issue um and I would say this is a rather large issue. And I just think like the silence from every single celebrity, except for Lala Kent, is so shocking to me. Because I get it. Like, you know, in most situations, you don't want to like drag a brand because, you know, you work with them or they gift you clothes or you get paid by them. But like,

I feel like when it comes to children, like all that gets thrown out the window and we all just do the right thing right and it's not like it was just the um one the teddy bears wearing harnesses and then photographed with children like not that I want to make any sort of excuse but maybe just some like some things like slip through the cracks and maybe there are a bunch of dummies there who didn't realize but this is like so layered and goes back pretty far. So it's not just like Kim said, like, you know, they made a mistake and they're accountable and they're going to do better. Like this is kind of like years and years of whatever predator or predators are within

like and high up at Balenciaga like are doing this intentionally. If you guys haven't seen all the other evidence that has come forward, it was the Supreme Court document on the Adidas collab bag. It was the model in the office with books and one of the, they're like coffee table books. And one of the artists is like known for, you can't even look at the images on Google. They're so perverse and they're blurred out. So there is something, there is an ill and a rot at Balenciaga that starts very high

at the top. They want to blame it on the photographers. The photographers don't get the props. They don't like, it's not on them. They just shoot what you tell them to shoot. Like there, until this is rooted out,

like Kim should not be working with them and then putting out an apology and, you know, oops. And next time it won't happen. Like it's just once, but also here, here it wasn't even just once. So it's like they released a statement, the photographer released a statement and every statement is just blaming

someone else but it's like who who yeah no like they need to do a thorough investigation of their employees and their predilections no and I have to say like Kim Gurley like you know I would really I would do anything for you but like this is a huge L on your part. Like, you need to do way more. And, like, seriously, like, I'm kind of judging you, like, hard, honestly. Yeah, I agree. And then I was over the collab to begin with, which also makes it easy. Like, it's not like I was a Balenciaga Gurley.

It was, like, a fabulous moment. And, yeah, it's not like I really own anything by then. But I don't care if it was Fendi like not nary an item to be bought again until this evil is rooted out also what I find kind of crazy is like when uh everything happened with Kanye and like everyone like dropped him in a succession like is the real real gonna stop selling Balenciaga like I'm gonna need the same energy I'm gonna need the same energy from'm gonna need the same energy from everyone who dropped Kanye because this is fucking crazy yeah no I completely agree like I can Balenciaga

no longer bank with Chase like I I really feel like the lack of if it weren't for people on social media just regular people with moral compasses, no one would be talking about this. And it's so concerning. Because I feel like there's a lot of conspiracy theories about elites in Hollywood and celebrities. And as it comes, all they do, there's a lot of conspiracies about pedophilia. And sex trafficking rings.

And I'm sorry, those conspiracy theories are being hella validated right now because, like, the lack of anyone speaking out is so weird. It's so weird. And I even saw an article. I haven't, like, looked so much to see what some of the, like, like, Daily Mail has spoken about it and whatnot, but I saw an article from, like, High Snobiety.

Have you seen? It's, like, a fashion site, I think. High Snobiety, yeah. And it's, like, snob, like, High Snobiety. And it it's like a fashion site i think high snobiety yeah it snob like high snobiety and it's like the conspiracy theory surrounding balenciaga's new campaign like and they said the it was just like so crazy they were like people are trying to make it seem like the kids and the bears and the supreme court thing were part of one campaign like this campaign is it makes it worse that it wasn't a part of the same campaign. It makes it worse that it's just like sprinkled in over the years.

Right. It's like systemic. Yeah. Oh my God. That's a fucking delusional article. Delusional. No, the way. No one's okay.

That's really. No, I know who it is. I feel like who are really taking up the cause on social media. It's the mamas. Like it's Lala Ken. It's Rach Parcell who are like seeing this and they're outraged. No, it's so true. it's the mamas like it's lala ken it's rach parcell who are like seeing this and they're outraged no it's so true it's the moms and you don't need to be a mom and the aunties 100 you don't need to be a mom to know how fucked up this is right and that's why i

think people are even more disappointed in kim yeah no like, talking about this whole conversation as it pertains to Kim, like, she's let, she's really let us all down. Like, this is a huge, and if there are reasons why she can't speak out, why she can't break her contract, like, why don't you talk about it? Like, the way you're giving us this, like, PR bullshittery,

shocked and disgusted, like, it's giving notes app. It was giving, she literally took a screenshot like on Instagram. Like she didn't really put any energy towards it after five days. Like I respect people taking their time and not just speaking out immediately.

Like I really do. But after you're going to take your time, I want to be wowed by your statement. I want you to say something. Yeah. To give us nothing burger PR bullshittery after five days honestly I'm so kind of like done with Kim right now me too it's not okay and the fact that she's a mom just makes it even like she should be even more impassioned and she's not yeah so the whole thing is really

gross and who knows what's next but Balenciaga's I mean. I mean, it's kind of a catch-22, because it's like if I owned a lot of Balenciaga, I'd want to sell it on the RealReal, because also everything says, I don't want to be a walking advertisement for you. If it was maybe like a subtle coat, you know, never know. But I think the RealReal should stop selling them. So then where does everyone go dump their Balenciaga?

StockX. It's the same thing. Does stock x still sell Yeezy for sure because they're that's how they got started it's their whole site yeah no but it was like kind of crazy when real real even did that with Yeezy so now you've set this standard right so let's get the child predators in there too yep you know what it's called McClard precedent you know i love a good precedent and they set the precedent um so we'll keep you posted on this story i don't think that's going to be the end of it no no and i sure hope not i hope not from the kim point like she might girly's got to do more i never thought i'd say this unironically but she has to do better no no like it better is not even enough she needs to do more I never thought I'd say this unironically but she has to do better no like it better is not

even enough she needs to do more she needs to do something yeah well right yeah uh and I think Balenciaga filed a suit against their photographer like because they're trying to blame the person who took the pictures that that they set it up, but there's like 500 people who get everything done before the photographer even clicks his camera. No, and there are people like, I saw a video of this guy from the fashion industry, like talking about how photographers are just take the picture. Right. And also their most recent fashion show was kind of demonic. Now everything like that they've done in the last couple of years is being looked at.

It's like, why is everything you do so fucking weird and dark? It's clothes. Right. Calm down. Weird with kids. There was very lifelike dolls and blood. Oh, and the clothes were ugly. Right.

And the clothes just stay ugly. Dead. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Switching gears. Joe Jonas lost the Spider-man role to andrew garfield he said he was the right one so joe was burning up to play peter parker in the 2012 movie the amazing spider-man but he lost the role to andrew garfield he said quote i remember years ago i was

up for spider-man and i was so so excited and it was the year Andrew Garfield got it obviously he was the right one he noted that the film's director Mark Webb used to be a music video director which led the Grammy nominee to believe that he had an in to get the role he said but you know what I love the process of auditioning and putting yourself out there and having to prove yourself he said adding that he made it through to the callback portion of the audition process as for whether that included taking the old spidey suit for a spin, he replied, no, but I'm sure I had one

that I would try on occasionally back in the day. Let me tell you how I would take a bullet for Joe Jonas, and I don't think that he's right for Spider-Man. No. And did he, aside from obviously Camp Rock, iconic role. No, he's not really like that.

He's in a new movie right now with Glenn Powell, Devotion, that like is getting a lot of buzz. It's like another like Top Gun, like plain Navy movie. But he's not really like that experienced in acting outside of the Disney Channel. Right. So to go from Disney to Spider-Man, that would be a big leap. It's a jump.

Actually, Zendaya did it. So true. But wait, I'm so glad you brought up the Jonas Brothers because I have like an extremely hot take that I need to share okay on Thanksgiving Ben had the uh Cowboys Giants Cowboys game on and there was a halftime show and the Jonas Brothers performed I was like oh fuck yes love this and they did like a medley of all their songs you know Kevin was out there killing it on the guitar Joe was taking lead vocals and Nick was doing guitar and like 30% of the vocals. And maybe I haven't seen them perform in a long time, or maybe it was just like an off weekend for Nick Jonas. But like, if I watched that, well, I did watch that, but like I could draw the conclusion

that like Nick Jonas can no longer sing from that performance. Maybe he was sick. Maybe he's had a lot of late nights up with the baby. Like there's's a million things but the way he could not hit a note to save his fucking life and you know him his he gets all the high notes because that's like his voice literally he would sing and nothing would come out it was like a silence on the mic it was so weird and then I went to Twitter to see if like anyone was talking about it because I'm like this is like low-key crazy everyone was like Nick Jonas is so fine oh my god he's so fine and a couple people were like wait like what's going on but it wasn't and I just want to know did anyone else see that and be like what the fuck we had the game on but I think halftime show was while we were eating

I didn't even pay attention to it so I can't speak to it maybe is it possible he was having audio issues like feedback and he couldn't hear himself and perhaps I'm gonna need to see another performance from him too like I'm not gonna make any you know grand assumptions but if I did wanted to my assumption would be like this boy can no longer sing he should get into another field I'm gonna say like there was issues did anyone else see it and anyone else know what I'm talking about? I'll maybe check it out, but I feel like, no,

you're probably right. And he probably stunk up the joint, but I don't know if that means that he can no longer sing in perpetuity. It was just so crazy to me because like for years, like Nick was the perfect one. Like he hit every note. He was the most musically talented. And it was just the way like Joe was so effortless.

Like it wasn't even trying. It was just like sounding amazing. And like Nick was trying so hard. Like his neck and his voice like sounded so strained. And he still couldn't even hit the note. Maybe he was sick. Maybe. I'm a sucker for you. That was good.

That was like Nick Jonas vibe. Maybe you could take his spot. I don't wanna go anywhere blindly. All right, that wasn't great, but. I'm a sucker for you. That was literally Nick. He's like always like clenching. I'm a sucker for you.

So he's always clenching. He's always like straining. I'm a sucker for you. Anyways, that's probably one of my favorite story tropes on this show is like people who almost got what role? Me too. And usually I could like like people who almost got what role. Me too. And usually I could like really picture the person in the role. I could honestly not see Joe Jonas as Spider-Man.

Like not to be rude. I do think he's a little too short. But I get like short vibes from Andrew Garfield too. And Tobey Maguire. But I think Joe Jonas is shorter than both of them. Like for real. Yeah. Also this really could have changed the course of history because Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone then dated because they met on the set.

They dated for a number of years after the movie. That wouldn't have happened. Maybe it'd be Joe and Emma. Maybe. Oh, wait. Wait, wait, wait. So, sorry. Wait.

I'm misunderstanding. So he auditioned what? Like 10 years ago? Back in the day for this movie. Oh, not for like the most recent one with Zendaya. No, that's with Zendaya's mans. Oh, I'm sorry. I got so confused for it because I've never seen any of these movies.

Okay, sorry. So back in the day. Oh, you know what? I actually could see it. Right, Joe and Emma Stone. Yeah, no. And like he was so young and like he was like the big hot thing. Like I actually, I could see it.

I'm sorry. I totally thought it was like last year. Yeah. And he was coming off of the Disney Channel. Now it's been 15 years since the Disney Channel. Like it's, okay. You know what? I actually can see it.

I'm sorry I misunderstood the whole story. Yeah. So just interesting. And then our next story is another one of my favorite tropes of stories, which is someone's coming off the singles list with an eligible partner. Ooh, you'll have to wait to find out because we're going to a word from our sponsor. Today's episode and our singles news is brought to you by Seeds DS01 Daily Symbiotic. Turns out everything you, you like that? Everything you think you know about probiotics

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is sparking romance rumors with the Imagine Dragons frontman after the two were spotted on a date night in LA over the weekend paparazzi photographed the two of them stepping out to cafe Stella in the Silver Lake neighborhood Saturday night although there was no blatant PDA between the pair and the pics obtained by page six he was at one point seen stroking her hair in their parked car stop M. Minka Kelly, like, was just born under a lucky star. Like, I really believe that. First of all, she's one of the most beautiful women, like, I've ever come across in my life.

She doesn't look like anyone else. She's really unique looking. She looks like, she looks like other, like, there's a bunch of, yeah, there's a bunch of girls who look alike. But like, she, I'm saying she's not like beautiful, like, women now, like, who are beautiful and, like, have big lips, like, they all look the same.

Yes, okay. Like, Minka Kelly, like, actually looks like a human being, not like an alien like everyone does these days. Mm-hmm. She is the most. You think she has veneers? Yes. Let me look at her.

She is the most. No, don't look at her veneers. Look up who she's dated in the past. She has the most stellar taste in men. Like, every time she's spotted out with someone, it's just, like, don't look at her veneers. Look up who she's dated in the past. She has the most stellar taste in men. Like every time she's spotted out with someone, it's just like more, she was with Derek Jeter, right? For like a million years.

Yes. McClard, I don't think she has veneers. Oh, let me look. They look like real teeth. Yeah, they look like. That's the thing, like really good veneers look like real teeth. No, they look like real teeth for sure.

There's this dentist on TikTok who will like take a picture of a celebrity and like zoom in and tell you if they have veneers and it's actually really helpful. Can you pull up her dating history? Okay, not her teeth? No, I'm looking at the teeth now. I feel like they're definitely veneers.

They're totally veneers. Maybe I was looking at old pics. Okay, she dated Jesse Williams, Josh Radner, Wilmer Valderrama, Derek Jeter, John Mayer. Oh, right. Chris Evans, Donald Faison, Brian White, Trevor Noah. Right. But when did she date John Mayer? I think there's like one photo of them like getting into

a Range Rover um like one time and maybe it's like this connection I have to Friday Night Lights in particular Lila Garrity which is why I'm so like I will always keep up with Minka Kelly and she's so funny because like does she ever work like she was in Euphoria, but like as a very, very small part. And she's like still so famous. But like from what? From Friday Night Lights. From Friday Night Lights. She's just someone that people care about. She was also in the 2018 movie The Beach House, which I personally watched.

Andy McDonnell plays her mother. It's a wonderful movie. Oh, is it like a Hallmark film? Yeah, it's Hallmark. And she's extremely hallmarky and I feel like she could be more hallmarky she like I feel like she had an opportunity after Friday Night Lights to literally become America's sweetheart and either she didn't want it or like it didn't happen for her because when I think about the trajectory of her career like

it kind of makes no fucking sense wait and remember when she played Jackie O in the butler no we watched the butler remember I remember and and there's just like a scene with JFK played by James Marsden and Jackie O played by Minka Kelly no I don't remember that but it's a perfect casting in my opinion yeah um so like I'm just I would love to do like I would love an in-depth timeline of Minka Kelly's a documentary where where things went wrong you know maybe she just chose to do less to keep her sense of normalcy and just like be one of these celebrities who can like you know get paid go to target grocery store holding a certain bottle of juice and still have her sanity no that would be really impressive but I just think like and it's, that would be really impressive. But I just think like, and it's possible that that's what she wanted.

Or I just feel like something went wrong in her career. Cause like Lila Garrity, like the way I think millions of girls wanted to go up and be Lila Garrity. She really was like America's sweetheart. But don't you also kind of feel that way about a lot of like teen idols? Like even like Leighton Meester, even though she was in country strong, but I also like, I would say Leighton Meester, even though she was in Country Strong, but I also like.

I would say Leighton Meester is like way more famous than Minka Kelly. Really? Yeah, would you not? I would say they're like the same. No, I would say like the way I perceive it is like Leighton Meester got so famous off of Gossip Girl, like did the things for a few years

and then like is so famous that she had to take a step back. Like I don't think that was the case for Minka Kelly like Layton Meester really is like nowhere to be seen but she's still so famous but I also think Gossip Girl was a bigger show than Friday Night Lights no we just watched Gossip Girl when it was on and we didn't watch Friday Night Lights until later in life at least me no I watched it when I was in like the seventh grade no no no no it's not something that we watched in our family i watched it like with zach i watched it in the eighth grade you did i can't i remember i had a dvd a portable dvd player oh look at you humble i love that song

yeah i did have a portable dvd player actually everyone did like it was so fun like everyone at night like wouldn't talk to each other we'd'd all just be, like, on our portable DVD players. Good times. Good times. Those were the best nights. She's dating Imagine Dragons front man, which you love to see it. So I didn't even then get to say my thoughts on Imagine Dragons front man, who's literally the hottest man who's ever walked the planet.

I've actually ended up on a side of TikTok, like, Imagine Dragons stand-up. And there's just, like, really premium videos. He never performs with a shirt on. He's so fucking hot. And the band is just like huge, but he's not like, you know, he's not like an Adam Levine. Like he has to be like the face, you know?

He hasn't sold out either. I feel like they make real music, and it's hit after hit, but they don't make it for the hits, and they don't make it for the radio. They make it because they're a rock band. They love it. No, they seem really grounded as a band, and he seems like he's not like this asshole who's like the lead singer and therefore it's not like Josie and the Pussycats

you know I like love this man and he's I never even hear about who he's dating so much I actually thought he was gay because I think I saw somewhere like that he had a pride flag yeah but I guess he's just an ally so I just I kind of like love this yeah loving it as well also you know that he's like down-to-earth guy because I personally didn't know who the lead singer of Imagine Dragons was because it's really an ensemble of course you know like Marcus Mumford Mumford and Sons you know Ryan Tedder One Republic like some guys they make themselves known I just feel like he does it for the love of the art okay I did know like his name and his face and everything but I I understand what you're saying yeah well I'm not as tuned in as you know not plug as plugged in maybe if you had a TikTok that you were passionate about you

would know but you don't no and you don't and I don't no you don't no I do not how are things going on TikTok what's new I actually really wasn't really on TikTok a lot this weekend I was just kind of like enjoying the presence of my you know friends and family it's so beautiful how's your book going what are you reading still the idea of you it's so disgusting yuck like she's having sex with a guy who's 20 years old. She's 30 and 40. And she keeps calling her my sweet. She keeps calling him my sweet boy. And it's kind of fucking disgusting.

Like I'm getting so icked out like by this book. And it's like all about, you know, a woman in her 40s reclaiming her sexuality after divorce. But like it's also giving like a little pedophilia. For sure. Because if the roles were reversed and it was a 40-year-old man and a 20- we would say yuck and he kept calling her my sweet girl yuck no she's kind of disgusting solen so like i can't even get through the book it's really twisted i can't people like like this book ew how far along are you like 40 it's too late to turn back I know especially with the end of the year creeping up on us even though I already hit my goal my goal was 35 I hit it and my goal was 50

and then I hit it again right but now you just like keep setting new goals so is your new goal 60 you could do it no my new goal my goal was 50 oh okay so you're done yeah my goal was 30 and I hit it I think I'm at 38 now so now my goal is 40 I will hit that because I'm almost done with this book and then I have to read the redheads so I don't think I could read I think you could to know get to what 50 50 I could just because like we're going on vacation and maybe it depends it depends what Harry wants to do on vacation you know yeah what Harry wants to do on vacation, you know? Yeah, what Harry wants, Harry gets. Yeah, so it might not leave a little too much reading time for mom. Yeah. Okay, next story.

Are you ready? Yep. Andy Cohen says Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is taking a break. He teases the Bravo plans for 2023. Andy Cohen revealed that Real Housewives of Beverly Hills will be on hold for a minute. He said Beverly Hills were taking a minute break and then will be back shooting with them in the new year. He did not go into detail as to why the LA based reality show is not following their

usual programming schedule. He also did not comment on which Housewives may be back for the next season. So they will start filming again in the new year which isn't that long of a break. It's not like a rony size break. It is longer than we're used to to from Beverly Hills they usually start filming right after the reunion so they got like at least three months off which is really nice for them and I think necessary and I think also they're delaying making any decisions right I mean I do feel like it's really like odd because if it's such a short delay like why do they have to make an announcement you know maybe because there was all these rumors floating around and so maybe he's just addressing it. And they really are breaking for a minute.

And then they'll be back. I mean, the most recent season of Beverly Hills was good. I just like I want to I feel like Housewives are like in their flop era. Like, I don't know what I feel like this is like a transitional period for Housewives, like with the Roni reboot and now Beverly Hills being on a break. I feel like the fate of Housewives is like very much up in the air. Like people will always watch it,

but it's not really as much of like a cultural like moment as it was five years ago. I would agree, except I felt like there was so much excitement for BravoCon and the Housewives. And the way I'm feeling now when I think about it is I feel like it's becoming very fractured and extreme like there's less casual viewers people who tune it on who just enjoy it like either like you're diehard you're on a fan account

you're going to BravoCon you're obsessed or you're really over it like a former watcher that's actually a really really good point there's not a lot of like middle ground people who see every episode but don't have a podcast about it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I do also think that the Jen Shah Salt Lake City scandal like really was an opportunity to like revitalize the entire franchise. And like the way the ball was so dropped. Like now that I think about it, like whatever footage we have of this season whatever it fucking sucks um we're probably not gonna film with Jen but she's going to jail and her sentencing is next month so like that probably is the end of it unless they'll do like a special

like in her house or something yeah they'll probably do a special but I think for a lot of the viewers too and maybe this I've not seen like people saying this but maybe it's sort of subconscious where it's like after everything with Erica and with Jen and there's and they just like keep promoting people like it's just gotten really twisted and there's a lot of bad things that go on and come out of the show and it's just I think leaves people with like a funny feeling and maybe like I don't want me to support this. I mean that how I felt about Garcelle. Maybe I'm just like really protective of Garcelle but like the way her kids were like so attacked um and they're like actual minors. It felt like so gross. I'm like this. Yeah and like nothing is worth that. No. It's just a show. Totally. It's just a show. Like everyone needs to calm down. Yeah so I feel like that's what's happening. It's

just becoming fractured and extreme yeah it's just an interesting moment in the in the Bravo universe and I feel like they can feel it and they're really trying to like do something about it and yeah I feel like they definitely are like doing more shows that like are outside of Housewives like there's like a million below decks now like trying to like give the fans what they think that they want which is like you know southern hospitality girls trips we have like a million ultimate girls trips that are still going to come out and like right but they're really just like catering to like the really extreme fan who needs more more more and not working on just like the casual viewer who wants to just

watch good episodes of what they start of Real Housewives of Orange County of Beverly Hills you know so that's I I don't know that what they're doing is going to solve the problem, but well, I don't work in television. No. And I also feel like Peacock was like kind of like a bad thing for Bravo because there was just this like pressure for more content when they really should have been focusing on the shows on Bravo because they were all kind of slipping like Vanderpump Rules. Like so many things were just like, meh.

And then they just had to keep churning out more content. So they're finally giving us, I mean, we've been asking for years for some sort of crossover episodes like an all-stars housewives and now they're doing it it's just like feels kind of forced yeah and I feel like they're the only people who are going to watch like an ultimate girls trip or something like that are the people who watch all of the franchises right now so you're already like having less limited less audience and it just like keeps getting smaller now. So you're already like having less. Limited. Less audience. And it just like keeps getting smaller instead of expanding.

You're not going to watch Ultimate Girls Trip if you don't watch the regular franchises. But you might watch a show that has some of the OGs who aren't on anymore because a lot of people used to watch in those days. And I think that's what they tried with Berkshires. I don't know how that did. Right. And we think of those women fondly like they really are a part of history yeah so I think they try and do more of that but I think some of those women like don't

want to be on the B-list show they want to get back on their show they're not interested right because they are all also out of control yeah and also the egos that they're like it's just a lot it's unbearable yeah okay either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain are you ready for our fifth and final story the final story yeah i'm ready what's it all about miriam webster defined gaslighting for me because they have shared their 2022 word of the year and it is gaslighting i feel like we literally predicted this because not a month ago we had this long ass conversation on the toast about how people love to use the word gaslighting these days and they don't even know what it fucking means they just think it means lying literally gaslighting

which means mind manipulating grosslyulating, grossly misleading, when being downright deceitful, is Merriam-Webster's word of the year. Lookups for the word on Merriam-Webster.com increased 1,740% in 2022 over the year before, but something else happened. There wasn't a single event that drove significant spikes in the curiosity, as it usually goes with the chosen word of the year. That's pretty interesting. The gaslighting was pervasive. That's I mean. I do really feel like TikTok had a lot to do with that

because like the way that first of all that sound like took over girl boss gaslight gatekeep repeat like there it was very much a part of like TikTok verbiage and then I think people started using it like in their everyday lives even though they didn't really even know what it meant yes definitely now we're going to talk about the former words of the year which we do every year and I always forget them so um do you remember last year's no oh no I'm sorry this isn't last year this is um the other top 10 words of the year oh for this year yes okay oligarch what driven by russia invading ukraine people were talking about the oligarchs a lot okay omicron omicron triggered oh my god i'm triggered next codify queen consort that's two words oh camilla yeah raid sentient cancel culture

that's merriam-webster's like kind of cringe miriam's kind of dumb no miriam's like a little cringe like is it the word of the year the phrase of the year it's the i'm gonna get the exact verbiage word word um Miriam Webster define word for me next in the top 10 LGBTQIA okay I don't believe that's a word that's an acronym oh my god good call duh and the next one is loamy which many wordle users tried back in August though the right word that day was clown I guess that was like a wordle inside joke one day in Lomi, which many Wordle users tried back in August, though the right word that day was clown. I guess that was like a Wordle insight joke one day in August. Funny.

People need a fucking life. Also, last year's word was vaccine. Got it. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. I like how it went from vaccine to gaslight. Like if that ain't indicative of America. If that ain't us. That's our literal like prerogative. Is that the word?

Prerogative. That's my prerogative. Tell me why. The way Britney Spears, I think, covered that song. I don't think it's her song. And just kind of changed my life. What album was that where she did Stronger than yesterday

And then that's my prerogative Tell me why Are you sure that those are... Oh my God, Spotify is like always asking me for shit. I have just like a memory of like plugging in one cd and getting both those songs on one album okay so i will read her cds in the zone no get in the zone auto zone okay wait yeah no not in the zone hold on blackout google no just google what album stronger than yesterday is on i'm okay oh my

god you're like the worst research assistant ever oh my god uh oops i did it again album okay and it's prerogative on there no damn not me gaslighting my own self with my memories that's literally my adult existence not you gaslighting your research assistant i don't think me gaslighting my own self with my memories. That's literally my adult existence. Not you gaslighting your research assistant. I don't think I gaslight you. How did I? I think you. I insulted you, but I didn't gaslight you. I think you vaccinated me.

100%. So those were the past five. And you certainly needed to know all of them. You needed to know them. But I'm really tired of Merriam-Webster being so thirsty. Give us a word. I know all of them. You needed to know them. But like, I'm really like tired of Merriam-Webster like being so thirsty. Like give us a word. I know. Give us a real word.

I mean, I guess they're just trying to like let everyone know what the vibe was this year. Yeah, no, but this sounds like most like popular Google searches, not words. Right. And it's like, okay, so that should be Google's year in review. Yeah, not Merriiam like stepping on google's toes not miriam gaslighting google into getting the vaccine by an oligarch oh who's lgbtqia um we still have the tv recap yellowstone and white lotus and it is brought to you by a new sponsor today that we're really excited about.

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Gotcha. Ooh, Jackie won. Okay, I'll go first. Sure. Bye. Sure. Bye. I kind of love doing these recaps separately.

Oh. Oh, she took her headphones off. What did you say? You kind of love doing these recaps separately? I kind of love doing them separately. So you can finally talk? One, yes. I get to talk. And two, it's just like a fun exercise. I have the best time, girl. What'd you say? You kind of love doing them separately. I kind of love doing them separately. So you can finally talk. One, yes, I get to talk.

And two, it's just like a fun exercise. I have the best time, girl. I really love you. Just know we have 20 more minutes left on our SD cards. Okay, it won't be 20 minutes. I know, I know. Love you. Love you.

Bye. Okay, Yellowstone, another wonderful episode from our favorite people. Also, okay, this is really random, but you know how during Yellowstone, they use it to promote all their other shows that are coming up because Yellowstone is the most watched show in America.

So they're promoting Tulsa King and they're promoting 1923, which by the way, I'm so excited about 1923. The casting is amazing. Michelle Randolph, like I'm not okay. But I find this is so random. The volume on those commercials is obscene. Like I watch Yellowstone at a normal volume,

plus it's on late at night. Harry's already sleeping. Like I keep it low and I watch the subtitles and then those commercials come on and they bust through the speakers. Does anyone else notice that? Or is that just a me problem? Also the commercials for 1923 made me realize I need to finish watching 1886. I think I have a few episodes left. I just like lost patience because I was watching week to week. Back to Yellowstone. So many great moments great moments such a wonderful show even when nothing's happening Beth is in prison I was shook to the core when I found out her name was Bethany like makes total sense but wasn't expecting that but as stated I'm not a Bethany I'm a Beth then for

her to find out that Jamie has a kid with his little Graco car seat now that I'm in the market for car seats and just like up on these things I thought like oh that his little Graco car seat now that I'm in the market for car seats and just like up on these things I thought like oh that looks like a nice car seat um obviously Beth has a conniption when she knows that Jamie had a baby it was so sad when she was like God gave you a boy I just I couldn't I was already like feeling warmly towards Jamie because he got Beth out he he really does his thing as an attorney you You know, I thought he was gonna try and like get this girl to press charges just to fuck with Beth,

just because Beth is always fucking with him. But no, he did right by his sis. He made a lot of sense as a lawyer and he totally intimidated that woman into not pressing charges, which is bad behavior in general, but it's good on Yellowstone where we just want the Duttons to stay winning.

So that was nice that Beth got out it was a fun whole thing but did anyone else okay I don't know if I was being gaslit by Yellowstone maybe I just wasn't paying attention last week because I never heard what that whore said to Beth in the preview for last week they showed us like in the recap of last week's episode they showed us her saying like I'm taking your husband home with me tonight but I never heard that in last week's episode they showed us her saying like I'm taking your husband home with me tonight but I never heard that in last week's episode and then Jamie recounted exactly what the woman said and she was like you can either join us or he could tell you about it tomorrow and I was like I never heard any of this but now I understand why Beth smashed her with a beer bottle I just thought she was like antagonizing Beth a little bit but no she like was saying some wild fucking

shit to a wild fucking woman and listen you fuck around and you find out if that ain't the motto of Yellowstone so Beth goes home happy to see her home with her manes this wolf drama is no good the NGOs are coming for John and of course I realized in that instant that he would pardon his girly who looks like Piper Parabo. Is it Piper Parabo? I don't think so, but looks like her and it's giving Piper Parabo. I should probably check that, but then Claudia is going to be watching me do my recap being like, what the fuck is you doing? Let me just look. Piper Parabo. Let's see if yellow stone comes up. Yeah, it does. Yep. It is Piper Parabo Parable great because it looked like her so she's back with

John in his bed even though she literally said she would not be sleeping with him and so I'm assuming that she is because she was like running around in the middle of the night but I'm glad I kind of shipped those two and he needs someone on his side who's going to help him like I love that he's cleaning house but he also needs to do the work of the governor and he needs smart people around him. And she does seem smart. Wow, Claudia is struggling to keep her mouth shut. And then there was one other thing that happened. Oh, the funeral.

Oh my God, I can't even talk about it. Like I was beside myself. It was so fucking sad. So I'm just gonna move right past that and talk about the one last thing, which was Jamie being a big fat moron and getting seduced in one second by brunette Beth Dutton. I think her name is Sarah Atwood. Loving that Beth was in the presence.

She's going to do some investigation. So this woman's not going to make it that far into coming in between the Dutton family. But Jamie is just so fucking dumb. I literally can't. Someone says one thing nice to him and he's dropping his pants. Get a life loser. Okay, we're good. See you guys next week. Okay, like my recap is not going to be as long as yours because

like low-key like nothing fucking happens on this show and also i was also talking about like i i don't know if this is just a me thing but the volume of the commercials versus the volume of the show is so different it blows out my speakers and like harry's sleeping in the next room and they're playing tulsa king at an insane decibel well I'm on HBO so we don't get commercials right I was just wondering if anybody else was experiencing that that's interesting I'm curious to hear if anyone has a problem okay enjoy bye I'll be quick so obviously the only thing everyone is talking about from White Lotus last night is like that hot guy who looks just like Harry Jowsey is fucking his uncle and I just really feel like I didn't need to know that.

And I definitely didn't need to see the uncle fucking his nephew. Like it was a little gross. Having said that, it was a decent episode. Obviously like Aubrey Plaza is like becoming unhinged. Oh wait, oh, I just saw like something on TikTok that really blew my mind because, so you know that scene where, you know,

after the winery and like Aubrey Plaza's just like being kind of nuts all week all day she tells um Daphne that like she thinks something happened and Daphne's like listen I have a trainer yada yada and she goes to show her a picture of the trainer but she instead shows a picture of her kids so I thought she was just like asserting her dominance being like listen fuck off like mind your own business we're a family I'll take care of it but then somebody else was saying she basically said I have a trainer and you know whenever I am in New York yada yada basically like she fucks her trainer and he's blonde with um blue eyes then she showed a picture of her kids and her older

kid was blonde with blue eyes so people on TikTok were saying that like her trainer is the father of their oldest kid. She was the one who cheated first. Like she knows what she's doing. She's not so dumb that Daphne. I don't know. I didn't really think anything of that conversation until I saw it on TikTok. And now it makes a lot of sense. I just wanted to share that little nugget of information in case anybody was confused as well.

The hookers are really bothering me. And I don't understand why the guy who let them into the hotel and added them to his room doesn't just remove them from his room. Like, he's mad that they're charging food, that they're going into the son's room, that they're going into the dad's room. Okay, Sarah, why don't you go tell Valentina at the front desk to fucking take them off your restroom, your reservation? Like, it's so easy.

They are really pissing me off because she's obviously gaslighting that young boy. She's going to steal money from him. Theo James needs to pay the hooker so that the hooker can go. crazy um they are really pissing me off because she's obviously gaslighting that young boy she's gonna steal money from him um Theo James needs to pay the hooker so that the hooker can go uh the hookers are just really annoying me um I actually don't even think that hooker's voice is that good like when she wants to play piano I'm like she low-key sucks bring back the other guy who took Viagra um what else happened in the episode oh and then uh Jennifer Coolidge and her assistant went to that guy's house in wherever it was Palermo and they are definitely nefarious obviously because he was fucking his niece nephew but also because I feel like they're I don't know what it is but like they want something

from Jennifer Coolidge like they're making fun of her I think they maybe need money I don't know so I'm just not happy about that because they're taking advantage of Jennifer Coolidge when she's in a vulnerable position. Other than that, the show really needs to be watched in a binge like setting because like every episode one thing happening is just like not going to work for me. I don't know who dies. I feel like at this point it's useless to speculate. Like we'll find out when we find out. We know it's not Daphne because she's the one who discovers a body. But she is alone on the beach when she discovers a body and three people die. So maybe it's like her fucked up foursome. Oh yeah, because then Theo James is like rubbing Aubrey Plaza's leg and like definitely wants to fuck. So maybe they're gonna have a foursome because it's a

very tense group. They really just need to fuck it out in my opinion. Other than that, that's all I have. Why does nobody ever leave the hotel? Like you're in Sicily, like go on a walking tour. I feel like everyone does nobody ever leave the hotel? Like, you're in Sicily. Like, go on a walking tour. I feel like everyone eats every meal at the hotel, is constantly spending every night at the hotel. Like, go out. Okay, I'm good. Jax is back.

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