The Toast - The Belle of the Burden: Thursday, May 21st, 2026

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having an amazing day. Just seriously, amazing. Amazing day of Thursdays.

Speaking of amazing. Oh, that's so sweet. It's a girl who looks just amazing. Oh my gosh, thank you. What are you looking at? Nothing. Yes, you did. What did you look at?

No, I literally did. You looked at what? My shoulder, my shirt. like my shirt? What'd you look at? I didn't look at anything. I was really like focused on myself. No, no. You went like, do I mention the fact that I'm wearing a bun two days in the road? Do I mention it or do you? You went like this. If I looked at you like this, what would you do? Okay. Maybe I would question you, but if I did that, just know, like maybe something's wrong with my eye because I, I don't know what that was. So now she was like an issue and I feel bad for making fun of her. No, no. Like I literally didn't look at

anything. I promise you. Because I'd say it. I'd say what's on my heart. I have something so crazy to tell you that I have been dying. I didn't know I'm being dead serious. Okay, I'm really I didn't call you yesterday. Let me drink first. I don't spit out my water. I didn't call you yesterday. I didn't tell you last night. I didn't tell you while we sat here for 10 minutes while we dilly down I did for the show because I wanted to tell you live and in living color that last night I did the craziest thing. You started coppers bell burden. I started coppers bell burden. I read about 100 pages. So like I'm in. Okay, you're in. Ben finished remarkably bright creatures. Oh my God. He loved it so much.

Like, I know it's like a, it was like a long thing. But I feel so, the whole point of this when you were talking about it was because I chose a random book for my husband. He doesn't read. I know his interests. I tried to gauge if you would like the book. He loved it. So things I did that.

I got to pick another one, which will be hard. But we both read last night so mature because I was so productive yesterday. Like we did Maj. And while I was devastated, I finally answered emails for the past like month. I watched all of my programs. I'm caught up on Rory. So I had time to start Strangers, Belberden. taking a stab at my contemplate.

And let me tell you, obviously, I don't know where the book goes, but like, I'm in it now. It hooks you from the beginning because the beginning starts in the middle. And I just want to say if I ever see her fucking husband out in the streets, oh, it's on fucking sight. What a little shit. Now, I wanted to refrain from Googling because I'm dying to know who he actually is. Oh, I never Googled him. Oh, I'm dying to know.

I think he's just a businessman. Like, you don't know him. Well, I just want to look at pictures and stuff. Okay. But I don't want to spoil anything for the book because she told us what happened during COVID. and now we're getting her life story, which I could live a little bit without, like, so much deep, I don't need to know about, like, your parents' divorce and then they're both respective new marriages. Except for the dad's wife because she's like a big part of Bell's life.

Yeah, like more so than her mom. Except that her mom's boyfriend, when she talks about like the boyfriend, it's Charlie Rose. Oh, I'm not there yet. No, no, no. She doesn't say, but like she references her mom's boyfriend a couple times. One who like came to live with them for a few years, they got married and were. She liked him. For one year and she loved him.

And then her long-term boyfriend. who she ended up being with forever. It's Charlie Rose. Charlie Rose. Well, that's the interesting thing about this rando woman is like her roots. Her roots are rooted in like aristocracy, American royalty, academics.

Like she's really like a modern socialite. She, like her grandmother was Babe Paley, who was married to the founder of CBS. Everyone is just like moneyed and wealthy. And I don't know where it goes, but I imagine like her pre-napp ruins her life. Because you got to the part where she. They found the pre-

up, but where she was being a dumb bitch. Where she ignored legal advice. Yeah. Where she ignored legal advice. But the crazy thing is like it can happen to like a story generational wealth woman. It can literally happen to anyone. So I plan on finishing it throughout the weekend. But yeah, I'm a woman of my word.

I started Copper's Belberden. And so you're liking it. Oh yeah. Okay, good. It grips you immediately. And it's a short book. That's my queen right there. Like don't.

People think like in order for your book to be taken seriously, it has to be long. Look at Copper's Belverton. Yeah. And for anybody who knows, doesn't know what book we're actually talking about. It's called Strangers by Bell And it's like what everyone's talking about they're making into movies, starring Gweth Paltrow. I know. Otherwise, she's so Gwyneth.

Yeah. It's a true story, this woman's story about the dissolution of her marriage, which happens in the first minute, so that's not a spoiler. Yeah, right, which I appreciate. That's the first thing. The second thing is I did something else crazy yesterday. I just sort of, like, took control of my own life. And I went to see a chiropractor.

Because I heard, you know, I'm looking for alternate treatments from my thumb. Yeah. And I've heard that there are a couple of, you know, freaky-deaky alternative methods, you know, acupuncture. And I've heard that chiropractor might work. there's like this method where they stimulate blood flow. So I just made an appointment with some random guy and I went. I didn't realize I was also making an appointment at a place that's also part physical therapy.

And so obviously I was feeling triggered walking in the door. My pants like sort of fell down on their own. It was great to be back. But like, but like, but like, what is physical therapist that they're all handsome? Like the guy was just like a really handsome like nothing, you know, not like a model, but like a dad. And he was just like a handsome guy. Well, maybe it's like if you're into physical therapy or into the wellness and you keep up with you. yourself, you know, you're not going to be like a slob.

Yeah. Thankfully, this one was just my thumb and I have to take any clothes off. But I did feel a little bit of tingling in my thumb while I was reading Copper's Bell burden. That's good. So it was working. He said, don't expect magic overnight. But like, of course, I have to come back.

I'm going back on Friday for like a couple of sessions. I can't, I can't even think about your thumb. Like, you just want to say it looks kind of better. It does. It does. Yeah, keep going. I really just don't want to get surgery. You don't, I'll try anything.

That's great to not have to get surgery. And then the third thing, I wanted to tell you something that my husband. husband did that honestly made me feel so weird and I just need to like speak. Is it going to make me feel weird? Yeah. Okay. So Ben got a teeth cleaning yesterday, which is like for some reason. I'm scared because we're cooking together today. No, no, it's not like that. Okay. Like he did something socially weird. Like I kind of wanted to smack for me. Not gross. So Ben got a teeth cleaning here yesterday. And like for some reason, whenever Ben and I are here, we go to the dentist, one of our like good friends who lives here is the gentle practice. So

we're like, oh, we're like, oh, we're going to whatever. Ben was having like a gum issue. And then they were like, you also need a cleaning. So he went for cleaning at 8 a.m. yesterday. And he called me after he was like, got the cleaning. Of course, they upsold him on a $75 electric toothbrush. And he was like, it was a really good cleaning. So I tipped to the hygienist. He was like, wait, why do he was like, yeah, I gave her $50. I was like, what? He was like, she did a really good job. And I'm like, that's inappropriate. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It is crazy. He's so weird. That's crazy. I mean, I'm sure she was grateful for it, but also just the idea of like money changing hands by like a hygienist.

Money so dirty. Money so dirty. Physically dirty. Yeah. Not like not conceptually. We love money. We love money. Yeah. I thought it was so weird. And I guess he didn't think it was weird until I was like, are you okay? And then I think I like gave him a pit about it. But like that's really weird, right? Yeah. And also it's just like it sucks for the rest of us because now he's like set an impossible standard. And we have to be tipping everywhere we go. I know like as if tipping culture hasn't already gotten out of control. Now we have to tip our medical professional. I don't think so, honey. No. Not with the insurance system as broken as it is. The next thing you know,

like your pediatrician's going to have an iPad that they flip around. Yeah. How crazy. He's so weird. That's been so crazy. Like that is. I don't even know where, like, seriously where he came from. He's an anomaly. Wrapped in a riddle and cash. Watch Roe Rie last night. That was my catchup. I only had one episode. Me too. Which was like so manageable when I finished. I was like, what should I do? Yes. So. Admin, classic. We have a story. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about it at the end of the show. And also, like, we can't talk about at the top of the show every day. That's how we annoy people. Yeah, and we hate to do that. We do. And we only do it when we have to, Slamu, West Mandval. Yes, no, this is not urgent. So we're going to stop talking about it. Any minute now. Any minute now. And then other than that, today's a major day. I can't believe you haven't mentioned the majorness of the day. Yes, that's right. My angel boy turned one today. Yesterday, not yesterday. One year ago today, I became a mama. Now, I will say it's kind of a terrible day.

I feel like this overwhelming sense of like sadness and dread. And I know that's like not what I'm supposed to be feeling. So I need to just like snap out of it. But I cried all night. Obviously picked him up out of his crib in the middle of the night because I was just like missing him. And we're having like a little party bar recute today. So it's going to be great. I'm just like not in the mood.

Like I want where's my baby? Yeah. You're wanting a baby. Where's the baby? Yeah. I know when he's entering like his his medium boy era. It's just not going to work for me. And like every time I say that to Ben, he's like, I know what he's just trying to make me feel

better. He's being so annoying. He was like, no, it's a blessing. Of course. Obviously, it's a blessing. Like I don't even have to say that because obviously. But he's just like he won't like give in to my sadness, which is fine. No, but it's also, it's not even just that Ruby's turning one.

It's like it's your first year of motherhood. Like it's about you. It's more so about that. And I do feel like for first birthdays, especially because the babies like don't remember them. I'm like, it really is more about the mother. Absolutely. You know, so today we're celebrating you.

Absolutely. This feels like more special than my birthday. Yeah. Yeah. My angel. So cute. I'm excited for the party. Me too.

Like, it's going to be great. It's all good. Of course, the Knicks are playing tonight, which, like, they have to win for my angel. Okay. So it's good. It's good. It's good. Yeah.

But just major, major milestone. Major depressive episode incoming. Mm-hmm. Such as life. But then, like, once you process that, like, it's all very exciting. You know what I mean? No, no, no, like, because then you get to, like, it's a whole new world. Yeah.

No, it's good. It's good. It's good. Okay. Let's get into the story so we can talk about our favorite thing, Rhode Island. Okay. Without further, ad do-dot-do-do-do, it is time for the past five stories that you need to know.

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That's that I got to highlight it and show you a live demo. Our first story, Kylie Jenner, makes a rare comment about her man's Timothy. She's thirsting over her boyfriend in a comment section on page 6's TikTok. So page 6 posted a video of Timothy. Chalame walking into the next game, like in slow mo, like very pargy. And she commented daddy. And then deleted. Because then I saw this. I was like, oh, love this. And then I was scrolling TikTok and I actually got served organically the video. And I went to the comments. And first of all, the top comment was Victoria, Kylie's friend writing daddy. Like obviously replacing her comment.

Because then all the other comments were like me looking for Kylie's comment. Like, did she delete it? And that does raise something that I'm curious about in the their relationship. There's obviously a very big sense of privacy in their relationship. They don't talk about each other really. They do all this stuff, but they're very much like off limits. They've been dating for a very long time, but we have to like act like they're not dating. She'd never posted him on her Instagram. He doesn't post her. It's only like ideas of him or whatever. And it's like, where is this coming from? Like which one of them is pushing for this? Because it bothers me. Because when celebrities are private, sometimes it's just like earnest, and it's sweet

and they just want privacy. But I feel like a lot of times, you know, people are having that conversation now about Joe Burrow. He's been dating that girl, Olivia Ponton, for like literally two years now. They get spotted out all the time together, but never physically together. He makes her get out of the car first. And everybody's like, why is she accepting? It's actually so disrespectful. At least Kylie and Timothy, like, they're always together. Yeah. But like sometimes now, even in hindsight with like Taylor and Joe, it's like, what are you hiding so much? No, and it's like, What's the big deal if we see a picture of Joe and Olivia walking into a restaurant together? Like what's the big deal?

That's your girlfriend. Like I understand in the beginning of a relationship, you want privacy because we don't want outside influences. And for like for a while in a relationship, you don't need, you are always walking on eggshells, right? You know, like until you're really settled and like that's your person and like you can conquer things together. But Kylie and Timothy are settled.

Kylie and Timothy are settled. They do everything together. So like what's with this insistence on like no social media together or like really just like going all the way in on things that are already happening. I do wonder, like, whose camp it's coming from. Like, I could see Kylie wanting it just because, like, maybe things didn't work out with Travis the way that she had hoped and maybe she regrets, like, having been so public. Or Timothy, like, I don't really know Timothy to have been in a long-term relationship

before this. So, like, maybe this is how he does stuff. But you can't really have that expectation when you're dating a Jenner Kardashian. No, and it's like, we're all the, we're at 98% of, like, exposure on their relationship. Like, what's with the last two percent? Why are you holding out? It's like, it's silly. And the last two percent is really just social media.

Yeah. Because they go to red carpets together. They are paparazzi together all the time. And interviews, I would say. No one really asked. They would say, like, I have a boyfriend. He would say, like, I have a boyfriend or she, like, kid-cutty. He said, like, to my partner.

Kid-Cuddy had the nerve to ask her, like, about a movie of Timothy's. Yeah. But, no, she doesn't, like, talk about her relationship, nor does he. And it's like, just look at Taylor and Travis. Just jump in. I know. I know. But I do think, like, you could, yeah, look at Taylor and Travis.

And then you could also say look at somebody else and like it goes terribly wrong. Yeah. They give us stuff. So like I can't be ungrateful. They've been together for over two years. At this point, if they don't work out, it's not because they share too much. Yeah, but maybe they think like now that if they share like it'll be a curse. You know the Kardashian curse?

Yeah, I guess. But also, so she commented daddy and then deleted it. I didn't, I did not see it. Well, it's like people have screenshots of it. Yeah, of course. No, no. I'm not saying it never existed. I'm saying like maybe she like regretted.

Or he like called her. I was like, I don't think he loves her. Me too. I think she really is in control, especially with like the media narrative, especially ever since Bellarina Gate, you know, he can't get involved. Yeah.

I feel annoyed, I agree, but it's not like they gave us nothing. For a while they gave us genuinely nothing. I feel like these days, especially with like the Knicks game and stuff, we get a lot. We do. And we get red carpets and it's okay. I just, I wonder what's holding them back from like sharing.

And social media is their terms. right like they get red carpet pictures taking them next pictures they don't get to control how like the narrative or like if someone's making a face where it looks like they don't like the other but like on social media you get to put out exactly what you want and like show us only what you want i don't know why she wouldn't want to do that even going to the nick game is actually like so personal because you're literally being watched by it's a three hour live stream of your relationship lips lip reading like i somebody i watched a lip reader reading their conversation where he was like yeah i really want to try that like it's actually so invasive more so than a carousel and you know that he's in posting pictures

in turks and cake goes she's person like come on yeah yeah no we're just like we're greedy because like they do give us a decent amount but i wonder why i had accepted the fact that we're not getting it it's not even about that i want it i'm just curious like why they have this hard stop like what just like this one thing they want to keep for themselves like which is what like pictures of themselves that they take like i don't know and tiffany's actually like hell a lot active on Instagram. I only recently followed him because that's my friend's boyfriend. I didn't even know he had Instagram. Yeah, no. And he like posted a mirror picture this morning, like of his outfit. He was doing like huge basketball shorts like all the way down to his like

on stories or, yeah, you want to say? Sure. I didn't know that he does stories. No, he did a story. Like and it didn't feel like it was the first one I'd ever seen. Timothy. Yeah, he like pretty, his 20 million followers. Here look, mirror pick 14 hours ago. And wait, he also has one more story. He's riding a scooter. Okay. Yeah. That's crazy that he does stories. He's just like a little Jewish kid from New York, you know?

Yeah. Kylie loves him. Highly convert? Kylie the convert? That's what we need. You know, even though, you know, Scott Dissick and his kids do carry the Jewish torch. Yeah. The Kardashians are literally the United Nations.

Like, they have got it all covered. But, you know, always good to have more Jews. Kylie would be. Kylie would be such a proud Jewish. Yeah. should really be great. Maybe that's what's holding it all up. I just want to let you guys know. It's not the craziest thing. If Kylie Jenner ever actually converted to Judaism, any denomination reform, because I don't know if I would be okay. I actually don't think I would recover. That would be

the craziest thing. Yeah. Like I don't want to get too excited. It would be so excited. But if she's already done it. Imagine she's like making call as having Jake Shane over for Shabbat. I'm throwing up. I'm literally throwing up. And like maybe like, make him a cuggle. She can like read the haf Torah at Mason's Bar Mitzvah or something. Even though I think Mason already had his bar mitzvah. Yeah, he did. The next one, right?

Penelope. No, she'll do like one of the seven blessings. At their wedding, yeah. That's really beautiful. I don't want to get too excited. Of course, I actually just didn't realize till this very moment that that was even like a remote possibility. It's not that crazy.

Yeah, I just want her to leave up her comment that said daddy. That's really all I wanted. Right. Small scale, that. Big scale, Judaism. Conversion. I know a great. I know a great rabbi.

I'm sure Timothy does too. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. Is Judaism important to Timothy? I don't get the sense, although I do think he actually, I don't know, with Marty Supreme, like, that was like a very lowery side Jewish story. I do feel like. Bob Dylan? Right.

Actually. Is a Jew? I do feel like he identifies largely as a Jew. I don't know in practice how much he's like lighting candles or making kiddish. And I don't know. And it's his mother who's Jewish? Yes. I think both.

And he's close with, no, Shalameh? They're French. So hold on. I looked this up once. Timothy Shalamey, parents Jewish. Like if you're, this is like so classic, like Googling who's, his mother is Jewish, his father is not, but that's all you need. Your mother to be Jewish. And he's close with his mother.

Yeah. I just think it's, it's not the craziest thing. Oh, my God. Wow. Oh, my God. I didn't really think of that that was possible. I know. And now that you do, like, are you able to think of anything else?

No, then Kylie is the Shavis Malika? No, I can't. And Kylie just wearing like a shaddle over her head to go to Sinai. Even though the Kardashians, they don't talk about it a lot, but they are like a deeply religious family. Spiritual. Spiritual, yeah. Like, I don't think Kylie's really, because the thing about Judaism is like, we have a lot going for us. One thing we don't really have going for us is like aesthetics.

Like Easter, like, I feel like the Kardashians love the aesthetics of religion too and they're always like leaning in. They love the cross. Yeah, they do. I can see Kylie Rock in like a big star of David necklace. Yeah. I just don't think like she'd be willing to give up Christmas. Yeah, no, she wouldn't be willing to. give up.

She would be one of those. I think it would be interfaith. But Timothy's used to interfaith because his parents are interfaith. Hanukabush. His parents are interfaith. So I think it would, I don't think he would make her convert because his parents didn't convert. Kylie.

If you are even really interested in converting or you've already begun the process, leave us a little hint on your Instagram stories because I know you like to. Post a candle in some capacity. Oh, that's really good. Yeah. That's beautiful. Yeah. You know, like a dipique, any sort of flame.

Yankee. Yeah. any sort of like a bonfire. Yeah. A fire, candle. Yeah, we need a flame. Because she does, like, when we ask her to do this, she does sort of extrapolate. Yeah, because she can't be too obvious.

I think it would be a bonfire. Like, now we've called her out on it. So she'll get creative. Like, yeah, she will. A stove top or something. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but I don't want to take all her ideas. Candle flame. Flame.

Flame. Are you ready for our next story? Timothy Flamee, yeah. Aaron Rogers announces he's retiring after the upcoming NFL season. Oh, so. They still have one more. Is he on the Jets? He's on the Steelers. After his upcoming 22nd season, wow, in the NFL,

Aaron Rogers plans to hang up his cleats. The longtime quarterback announced that he will retire at the end of the 26th season, finishing out his future Hall of Fame career with the Steelers. He shared the news during a press conference at the practice facility. He was asked if this would be his final season, simply saying, yes, this is it. Wow, I love that. Very simple. Athletes love to be drama.

Yeah, they're like, I'm making an announcement at 3 o'clock. Will they? won't they? But they probably asked him because they like to like, you know, taunt him. And he's like, yeah, I am. Great. No big ceremony. Well, bye. I feel bad for him. Me too. Because this is not. I mean, maybe the Steelers were won the Super Bowl this year. I hope they make it like decently far. I hope he has a good season to like finish out his career because like it's a pretty bad way to go out. Like the whole Jets thing. Why did he leave the Packers? Was there drama there? Oh, yeah. They hired a another quarterback.

when he needed other players, like to build around him and they're investing in like his new replacement. Yeah. That's what I think happened. So I guess that's also a bad way to go out. So he thought maybe the Jets could be his, but like the Jets, and I say this is a Jets fan. Like it takes, it's going to take a lot more than Aaron Rogers, you know. And then of course, day one, game one, he gets injured. So this is why I actually have a little bit of sympathy for like Tom Brady. It is really hard to time your retirement perfectly, although Tom Brady, like, literally won several Super Bowls, and each time, he had the opportunity to retire peacefully, and he wouldn't. So, like, that's not a perfect example. But I do think it's really hard to time you. It was like, well, if I get one more, I can go out

better than now. And actually, it could be worse. That's Kevin Taron Rogers. So you know what? I guess I'm silently rooting for the Steelers this season. Like, yeah, he's not, like, embarrassed. No, he's, like, so prideful. Yeah. And he's so, like, dedicated to the game in the craft 22 years. Like, he deserves a... Playoffs. A better ending. Yeah. I think it's also like currently what we're seeing with Travi. He doesn't know how to go out. Okay. But like...

But he does still have a few years technically in him. But correct me if I'm wrong. Like Travis is not Aaron Rogers. No. Okay. Like Aaron Rogers led a whole franchise successfully for like a decade. Yeah. Travis is a great player on the team. Right. Right. Travis is one of the best tight ends. Aaron's one of the best quarterbacks. But I do think like... Quarterback is like kind of more impactful.

Quarterback is a higher tier of... Quarterback? greater than. Yeah. Greater than all. They're the leader. They're the leader. No, no, but they're the leader of the team.

The captain. Yeah, no, I agree. They're the leader. I agree. So, I miss when we talk about football. Me too. We're so far out. We're so far out.

We could talk about baseball. We could. We talk about basketball. Oh, right. We're talking about basketball. Go next. We talk about Gakaba. Yeah.

Gacabba. Gacabah. That's basketball, guys. That's what Charlie used to call basketball when he was small. And I'm like. That's also what they used to call blueberries now. Yeah. Well, because he thought they looked like basketball.

Gakaba. Literally genius. Genius. Genius. Gacaba. Gacaba. Oh, and you're entering that face soon? Yes, yes.

Of cute words. Yes. No, no, it's all good. What is he going to call basketball? Probably what does big cousins call it. Gacabah. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah.

Which is one of our favorite topics, two of our favorite topics. Influencer News and Bethany Frankel. Bethany Frankel reveals the astronomical amount she makes a year in brand deals. So Bethany Frankel is on Emma Greed's podcast called Expire, and she's really spilling the tea and giving the exclusive. And I also feel like this is an interesting point in Bethany's career because she's always kind of been this like, I don't want to say polarizing, but just like lightning rod type of.

And now I feel like she's really entered into like polarizing figure territory because Emma Greed, like, had to make a TikTok. She posted a trailer being like, my next guest, Don't Aspire, Bethany, the little clips, exciting, drumming up excitement. And then Emma Greed was like, I just wanted to have on here. Like, I'm getting so much pushback. People telling me to, like, sack the episode, like, not release it.

Emma was like, I would never do that. That's just bad business. Like, everyone's talking about my episode. Why would I not release it? I just, it must have been like a perfect storm of like a few things. It's kind of the perfect storm, like the day after Newgate. Yeah, right. Shoegate.

It's just crazy. She really has become this like polarizing person. Yeah, but like I don't. Like they act when, you know, like a politician goes on something. But it's like really not real because it's like emigre posted on TikTok, the clip of the podcast. And yes, TikTok is where like the shoe gate haters live.

And so they all occupied the comments. But like that's not the real world. And I'm sure Bethany's episode of this podcast is probably one of the better performing episodes. Yeah. So I don't, I think, yes, she's polarizing on TikTok And I think she's been that way for a very long time Since she started doing these reviews.

And like TikTok is the sort of Gen Z platform And like, first of all, Bethany is not beloved by Gen Z. Like she is who she is because of like the millennials. And honestly the women her age like from Bravo and stuff. But like yeah, they would hate Bethany because Bethany like shares hard truths And Bethany's like no bullshit and like not opposite Gen Z being like, This is the safe space. Your feelings are valid.

Like not with Bethany. Yeah. So I get why, you know, why she's considered maybe that on TikTok. Yeah. That's also like where she has success. So like, yeah, no,

and she thrives there. And that's, and all of that discourse, like contributes to her success. Yeah. So she revealed the amount of money that she's making on brand deals in a year. She has raked in over $20 million per year,

thanks to her lucrative influencer contracts. So she told Emma agreed it's tens of millions of dollars. This is not including my other businesses, my real estate, my licensing. We're talking like 20 plus million dollars. Well, when she was here on the toast, I asked her, like, Skinny Girl Business, you know, cover of Forbes, influence her.

Like, what's the difference? And she said, like, my best day in the cover of Forbes era doesn't even come close to what I'm doing now. Yeah. She said, I'm not that comfortable with it just because it'll make people mad at me. Yeah, right. I believe that people shouldn't work for free. Interns, I pay. I don't believe in anybody working for free.

And if you're moving product and you're affecting an outcome, honestly, then I believe you should be condensated. So I don't feel guilty about it. She adds that the product she promotes are only ones. she truly believes in and uses. I'm very trusted and partners come to me for their marketing budgets. Like multi-billion dollar companies come to me to figure out how they're going to spend. She explained also that she can talk about anything she wants, which is something brands look for.

Also very true. A lot of people have a niche and it's like, well, we're going to ask you to promote our beauty products, not our food. Right. Or other people, you do food. She does beauty. She does fashion. She does everything.

It's just Bethany. Any product a human would use, Bethany would use it. It's true. She is really versatile. She also said something interesting that I thought was cool being like she works with businesses on multiple scales. So obviously one of her biggest partners is L'Oreal and her contract with them is like several million dollars a year.

But if there's a brand that came to her with a budget, like she makes the budget work no matter what. If it's a small budget or a big budget, and that's why she says she's making so much money is because like she's able to do multimillion and also like a story. She has a newsletter. And it's just her, the B-list, whatever. And I thought that was really smart because I think a lot of times

when you're at that level, like if the budget doesn't match your rate, bye. Yeah. But she makes it work. She never turns anything down if it's like a brand that she wants to work with and they have budget. Yeah. which I thought was cool. People just, like, can't take Bethany.

She's just a force. And I don't understand it. I love it. It's inspiring, by the way. She's, like, she's so magnetic. Yeah. Even when she was on the toast. We literally watched the episode three times.

We did. And I don't know what the factor is about her that, like, keeps people glued. Maybe it's because, like, you don't know what she's going to say. That's, you know, I don't want to watch someone who I know what's coming out of their mouth and it's boring and it's lukewarm. Or it's outrageous just for outrageous sake. like, I don't know if she just like has something that's just like so gripping. She is smart too. So like while I think a lot of the things that she says is not like what the, what everyone's saying,

she is a person who you want to hear what she has to say because she, like her story is very impressive in terms of how she grew up and now like literally having a second peak. So late, not late, but like later on in her career. I think it's inspiring to a lot of women her age. And also like women are age. Like, yeah. The best is yet to come. Yeah.

She mentioned that, like, in her interview with Emma, like, about how moms and, like, older women, like, appreciate that she's in this space. She's on Sports Illustrated. Like, we haven't been forgotten. She's like, she's, people are not understanding what it is because it's strange that I walk sports illustrated with 25-year-olds. Right. There's nobody my age there. But it's not like they're giving me the token grandma role. It's true.

It's landing because moms are saying, thank you for not disqualifying us as a group. I could be aliening moms, but I'm not. I think also what rubs people the wrong way about Bethany is, like, maybe someone in her position, like, would act. coy or she's very like proud and sure of herself so i think that like a lot of the things like that i think women are like supposed to say oh it's like such an honor it's like no yeah look at me i'm amazing and so i think people are put off by like her refusal to act shy or coy or just she's like very matter of fact about her accomplishments and i think that that's just not what people are used to yeah also i guess it's like when that those things come with age sometimes like wisdom

and confidence and having confidence in your wisdom and so like we don't don't have a lot of influencers who are sure of themselves. They're all like burgeoning 20 year old, like, crippling, yeah. Insecure and everything someone says to them, they're gonna apologize for because they like feel bad and they don't know who they are. And it's refreshing to like follow someone older

who's not hung up with those things. It is refreshing. It's different. So I think that's part of why it rubs people the wrong way. But there's, that's what we like encourage each other to do. Like to be confident. But that's why it works, I think. Yeah.

And I think that's also why her audience is skews a little bit more older. because the older you get, the more you appreciate that. Whereas I think, like, when you're younger, you resent it and, like, think it's, like, cringy. I don't know. I feel like she's not, like, I do feel like Gen Z is there. They're paying attention. Like. They're paying attention, yeah.

And even though she's not, like, their comfort, I feel like everyone likes a little bit of, like, yeah, like, be mean to me. Yeah, she also just, like, she has haters, like, everyone. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So that was interesting. Yeah. I want to listen to the episode.

Our next story, Jessica Simpson reveals why she was sitting apart from her kids on her flight to Hawaii. Reveals like what's a kids shouldn't sit in first class. Like sorry, I'm with her. So Jessica Simpson was talking to photographers at the airport. They asked her about this Nick. Right. Nicolshea so blowing up her spot. So she set the record trade. She said, my mom bought those tickets. It was my mom's treat for us to go to Hawaii. She was then asked whether her kids would have been sitting with her if she had purchased a ticket. She said, of course, that they would have been with her if it was. her trip and she purchased them. And they were in the back with the husband. Yeah, okay. Love that. Like seriously love. With the estranged husband. I just like hate that she has to explain herself. And like even let's say it was her trip and maybe she's like getting flak. So she's like

yeah, if I bought it like everyone would have been sitting together. Like I think there should be more love. She should be more respected for this. Like I'm sure her kids live a very lavish life. They live in Hidden Hills. They're friends with the Kardashians. Like they're fine. So yeah, like making them sit and coach. Like, that's exactly the type of behavior. Like, we want our billionaires to instill in their children. So the fact that efforts making is such a big deal, like, who gives a fuck? It's good. It's also really crazy. Oh, there's a fly on my water bottle. He loves the water bottle too. It's also really crazy to me that her and Nick and Vanessa were like stuck in like a confined space for six hours on a flight to Hawaii. Like, nightmare fuel. Like, that's each other's number one

op. She said. You think. Yes. I think Jessica for Nick and Nick and Vanessa. Jessica for Vanessa. and Vanessa for Jessica and Nick and Vanessa for Jessica. I don't know if Vanessa for Jessica. Your ex-husband's wife? Your ex-husband. It's not a boyfriend, a husband. I know, but they were seriously teenagers. I'm sorry.

That's just so crazy. She said that they did all talk and it was really pleasant. And what's so funny is like when Nick and Jessica like split in the book, like two couldn't be worse for each other. Yeah. Go away. Goodbye. But like they've actually wound up with the same life, right? like three kids each, go in Hawaii.

Still working in the industry. Maybe they could have made it work. Oh, you think that. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like they didn't want different things. That's true. But I also think like. They wanted three kids and to go to Hawaii in 2026.

It was never going to work with Nick being in a relationship with somebody who's in his industry on another level. For sure. Him and Vanessa like actually are complimentary. Yes, those are the things that split them up. But I'm just saying if they like worked past that, they like, if he could have matured a little bit. Yeah.

If they work past that they want, they would have had the same life. I do think. Yeah, they both go to church a lot. Like sometimes you see two people who divorce and like, you can't even imagine how they were ever together because this one did that and that one did this and this is. But like, look, they have the same life. Also like copper is well burden.

Sometimes you go through a divorce and you become a completely different person. But no, that wasn't the case. They were also really young. Yeah, but I also couldn't see Jessica hosting Love is Blind. I don't know. I feel she had to a place in her career where like she might have needed to. No, I don't think that she would be a good host. Oh, me neither.

But love is blind. But Vanessa's a good host. She's a professional host. Yeah. So like, TRL. She was something. One of those, yeah. So I don't know how that would have worked. But just saying, it's sometimes funny like that.

Like, hey, you actually married the same person. Yeah. And I don't know anything about Jessica's husband, except for the fact that he's like a former athlete. Like if an alien came down from space and looked at these four people, they wouldn't see a difference. Yeah. I mean, that's beautiful.

We're all human. Well, that's why we need to all go to outer space. Absolutely. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Finally, Rory recap. If it's our fifth and battle story that's brought to you by crox. Oh, are our crocs that we're wearing today? I'm wearing mine in two-wheel drive today.

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Our fifth and final story. So leading into Rory recap, but Ashley Kennedy talks about parenting while filming Rory on her podcast saying that it is very hard. She said she's actually on the verge of a mental breakdown. Yeah, I can sense that. Yeah. No, not even just the filming of the show, but I think also like the promo and the watching it. I find that's actually the harder part.

Yeah. like after the filming, like all that's required, especially they don't live in like a major city. So she probably has to leave home quite a bit to do press, go on Watch Robbins Live, all that stuff. Plus, she has her like already obligations of influence. She does her podcast with Ben Higgins. And she- That's so crazy. Do you guys remember like the era of Bachelor where like every bachelor person was getting an IHare Radio podcast? And this was like a really popular one.

It was such a random pairing. But look, and they're all, they've all come and go. But this one's still standing. Yeah. No, I think people really like it. She said that being married, raising. kids in juggling reality TV can be tough. She said it's been a crazy couple of weeks for both of them and she felt on the verge of a mental breakdown. She said it's really hard to be apparent while going

through all of this and now we can say filming for season two because they got renewed. Bracing for that filming, I can't do it all myself anymore. I guess she needs like Jared to like stop with the fucking coffee shop. Okay, so I thought that was actually a really interesting part of her scenes which she did film in her house. I don't know if you saw. And do you realize it was the first time we've been there? No, it felt familiar to me. I can't lie. You knew your way around. Yes, not my husband. I know my way around. I thought that conversation was really interesting about how like Jared quite literally is gone all day, every day, making no money. And it's the money that he could make in a single Instagram post, but he just like refuses to use his energy and his days to do that. I guess he finds it unfulfilling. Yeah, like he wants real work. Labor. Not social media. And well, well, I do actually think that might be admirable. Like at a certain point, you've got to call it. Like you spending all the time away from home to bring in no interest. just to make yourself feel better. Meanwhile, your wife is then at home,

making the income and being the parent. That's actually not fair. No, and you don't feel better. You're doing all of this. And you've never been less happy. You're so unhappy. She let you do this so that you would be happy and lead a fulfilling life because she can understand

that being a social media influencer isn't like what you want to do with your days. You want to produce something and give a cup of coffee. And it's not making you happy. So like at this point, you're actually just like neglecting your family. It's worse than being a dead. because you're actually taking away time. You're taking away money because that's time that she can't spend working on her things.

And you see how she, like, films her ad in, like a... And the kids have to go hide in the basement. Yeah, and, like, the friend is filming in, and it's like, she's doing... Like, imagine what she could do if she had more time and more support and more resources. No, I didn't realize, like, when I was watching a show that I was going to just hate Jared Hybond, but I hate him. And she's very supportive, which is something that I really admire about her, but it gets to a point of, like, enabling.

Yeah, absolutely. And this is ridiculous. No, I agree. That was very upsetting. And like, when you just laid out the financials that like the coffee shop brings in no money and actually opportunity costs, like you're now not at home, not supporting, not helping with the family, we're outsourcing a nanny. Like, seriously grow up.

And I feel like when you, like it's admirable to have hopes and dreams. But when you become a dad, a dad of two, like that sort of goes out the window and logic has to win and reason has to win. And it's like, this makes no sense. This is unreasonable. Yeah. At this point it'd be better if he didn't work at all. Yeah.

At least he could be with the kids. Yeah. They wouldn't need that 30 hour a week nanny. And she wouldn't be like stressed out. And also like, she also like loves her husband. And then like you also never see him. That's also just not fun. And he's like mad all the time because of this like stressful failing business that like nobody needs him to do.

Like quite literally nobody asked for. And the name of the coffee shop is Audrey's and that's her mom's name. Oh. But I don't, did they name for her mom? Oh, sure. Maybe his mom's name is Audrey too. Like I don't know. That's cute.

I don't know. And then the meat of potatoes of the episode was this fight I had heard a lot. lot about what I had heard was that like you know Rosie ate her up and judder up yeah which I do agree with like in terms of the the argument like who won it's not even a question Kelsey like seriously looked like a loser when she came back in at the end of that fight and was like and I did win that page it's like okay girl nobody can hear you like big loser energy and you know I've kind of been I've been turning like I really am team Rosie you're team Rosie and I was happy that she won the fight

but I also feel like she shouldn't have started the fight like I knew that that a fight started when they were doing the hair thing. And I wasn't sure when I saw Kelsey driving in, I'm like, is this what she's going to blow up at or is there something else? Because I actually thought, and I think the worst of Kelsey, like when she gave that backhanded compliment, I'm like, she didn't mean that. I don't think she's a genuine person. And I actually thought that in that moment, it was like a funny way to just sort of end this dumb little saga between them. And she was kind of making fun of herself, like calling yourself the house. Police like, yeah, you're a loser. You don't even have a house. Like, I actually thought it was a good joke and all in good fun.

I really did. And I was hoping, I was like, oh, please don't let this be the thing that starts a fight because it would be an overreaction and it was the thing and it was an overreaction and it was an insane fight like yeah with the bad oh and I'm sorry Rosie just like seriously ate it up when she like literally shoved her out of the house and when Kelsey came back to like say something the door was slammed right in her face like it was it was brilliantly executed but I don't think she should have started it oh I feel differently in the sense that I thought what Kelsey did was annoying with the siren and I would have been annoyed too one like the loudness and I don't like a siren that's just like chaotic and actually Rosie's chaotic so I don't think she's coming out of from a place of I do of like

you just disturb my peace yeah but anyways that would have bothered me I didn't think it was like a great joke or anything but I thought Rosie's reaction was so outsized and so trashy and like you can say get out of my house get out of my house get out of my house but to like push her down the stairs out the door calling her these nasty things and it's like we get it she's a sugar baby like she gets money for men she's never pretending like she's not like it's just I thought it was so it was like a level 100 reaction on something that was like a dispute, you know? Yeah. And Rosie was planning on getting in on the joke again about the house because she had the tape

measure and shit out. That's what I meant. She was ready to rehash it and joke about it. Driving up, I was like, this can't be the thing that starts the fight because she also has her own little jab. It was perfect. And they should have just ended it and started off on a fresh. And now obviously we're like so never coming back from this.

But I couldn't believe that like that's what set her off. And the way that Rosie behaved, so I understand why she was mad and wanted to be in a fight and get this girl out of her house. Because I actually understand that because I didn't like the siren and everything. And then this person's in your house. But the way that she handled herself, for me, I felt like I was watching a psychopath. Yeah. Like I felt like that was psychopathic. I liked it.

And so outsized to like just trying to get someone out of your house when like, yeah, they've offended you in your home. Good day, sir. Very disrespectful. But like that it got like physical and just so. nasty and I don't know what slam pig is but like it we just you talked about about it on watch out of it's like a road eye first of all it sounds like a slur um it's like a road island and people are like oh my gosh slam pig like best sound bite ever you know people are eating this up yeah I saw too like oh and she really she told her I don't know it just it I wish the crime

the punishment fit the crime I agree because then I could be like excited with everyone but like I actually funnily enough thought it was all in earnest and I think that like if Rosie had just taking it like a champ, that it would have been the perfect way to end this pretty moronic fight. Now it's like a big thing. Yeah. It wasn't. Yeah. And then I guess next week she comes.

It reminded me of Kenya more hair care. Do you remember when I forget who, oh, maybe it was Marlowe had a launch for her hair care brand, but like, Kenya already. That was bad. It was so evil what Kenya did. She like brought a marching band into the event. I don't think what Kelsey did was evil. I just, I wouldn't find it funny personally. I would find it annoying.

And I would say as much, but like I wouldn't get into a. physical altercation and like use all my curse words. Yeah. In this moment. I have to imagine just like being devil's advocate that like she was like I feel like how everyone treated her at the mansion more so required this level of like self-defense. And so maybe it was just really bubbled up and like she's just sort of been piled on a little bit.

And so like it was like an explosion. It wasn't about this in particular. But I do wish she was like a little bit more measured because it really this wasn't that big of a deal. Yeah. Next week they all are at a bar or something and Rosie comes in. wearing a sash that says Chelsea does. Kelsey does? Yeah, because Kelsey's the

pageant queen. No, I thought Rosie came in wearing a sash that says slam pig. No, I'm pretty sure it's Kelsey. Please find out. Please find out. I thought it was Rosie and I was like, that's so fucking me. No. Okay, I need to know right now. Sash, hold on. You know what? I could pull it up on my peacock, the trailer. Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure it was Kelsey. Like her way of giving it a little bit back. I have the show

on my iPad. Perfect. Yeah. Oh no, this is not the episode. It's like at the very, very end. It's like the reviews for next week. Yes, exactly. Hold on, wait, I have to go.

That would be really crazy if it was rosy. I don't think it is. Do you agree? It would be so crazy if it was rosy. I don't even think that it could be. Okay, I think that it is. But wait. But wait.

Let's watch the trailer. Okay, here they're fighting. It was really crazy. Like, it's funny. They all look so much. like we don't know who it is. Okay. Kelsey. Yeah. Wait. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, thank God. Yeah, it's Kelsey. Which is like a good way to like, you know, because if someone came in, if it was Rosie, I would say that was like the most thing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That changes. Better. Um, so I guess that's now in our rotation on Sundays.

I'm going to keep up with it. Now I'm fully caught up. Hopefully I'll be done with Popper's Bellbird. And another real housewife's Beverly Hills is over. Is anything on on Thursdays? Because I don't know. But the other thing I want to talk about. I was Alicia driving. You mean your autobiography, even though you never ran over a woman? When she was like that bridge is scary, like, yeah,

bridges are scary. I thought that was so funny. I know people like love her because she's like just like silly and- and I think she's very Rhode Island. Like she's the embodiment of the culture. Of like the typical Rhode Island one. Yeah.

And like not everything is for me. Agreed. She does make me chuckle too. Although I think a lot of her stick is annoying. Like the doll thing. Well, that's not what I'm talking about. The car thing is funny.

and like her home life is very interesting like it makes for good TV It's crazy that like she has a car seat In the back of her car I know and she's not like married Or on the deed of her house No but like that she has a child That's young enough to be in a car seat

Crazy I just don't know Like I think of Ashley as like young mom Yeah right right right right right But like she has a car seat child as well And she can't drive her to dance Oh and then the proof with Rueless husband Joellen found the proof

Yeah And then Alicia's in her house Like that actually was really weird Oh and then he's such a dumbass Like, oh, I have to go to the bathroom. Sorry, guys, work call. Wait, but also everything he was saying at that dinner was worse than the next thing when he said that he literally, like, drugged her into dating him.

Oh, and that he's like a surgeon and he can't eat steak because of the smell of blood. Like, that was disgusting. Everything he was saying was so crazy. He's a freaky man. I take Ozambic and then I lose muscle, so I take a steroid. Testosterone, yeah. Yeah. Freak.

Seriously, malpractice. He was being crazy. He should have his medical license revoked just from that scene alone. No, it was so crazy. And then saying that he was like, like, like. you know doubling her drinks when they get. Free. Like seriously.

Like actually maybe one of the craziest house husbands we've ever met. Yes. And I'm barely paying attention to him. And it's like everything I hear is worse than the next. And I know every time he films, he's like, okay, I'm going to just like fix what I did last week. And he always makes it worse. I actually cannot wait for like the Brian.

Whatever's like happening in real time for us to like understand. Yeah. So that is our show. Tomorrow's our last show of the week. It'll be great. And thanks so much for listening to the Tollandum on Monday morning and morning show. We deal with the fast-fif stories you need to know your Monday, the Friday on YouTube. If you're watching us on YouTube, please suffice to subscribe to the thumbs up.

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