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And it's Jacqueline Follet, hello Miss Follet, how you doing today?
Hey Turteloo, we're the ladies in black today
Yeah, it's a Skims maternity set, Slay for me.
It's a girly t-shirt, merch with maybe pants and a
cardigan for me.
Slay.
Slay the house down boots.
Hey girly, how you doing?
Welcome to the Toast.
Dern good, happy to be here at the Toast for another lovely
Wednesday, another lovely show with my lovely C-stird.
I feel like being lovely.
Okay, let's keep this energy up.
You know, I made an iced coffee this morning without ice.
Oh, that's like so yucky.
And it does mean to be-
Why is it so gross?
Why is it so bad?
Everything was from the fridge.
Everything is cold.
The drink is still cold.
I just don't have ice here at the studio yet. I have to get an ice maker.
It's like a whole thing.
So I usually bring from home.
I forgot my ice.
Like, what is it about this coffee
that seriously looks like sewage?
No, it's so disgusting.
Oftentimes, like if I'm staying at a hotel or something,
like if I don't have ice,
I just have to do it like that.
And why is it so much grosser?
I don't know, because it's not about temperature.
Like it is the same temperature, but I don't have like the slushy. First of all, you know, I like to swish my
ice around. You like to swish. So it's a, you know, a oral fixation as well. You know,
it's more than that. Like it is scientifically grosser. Why? I have no idea. I think because
it looks like it's been sitting in the car for three days.
So you're like thinking you're drinking like old car coffee.
Even if you drink it out of an opaque cup.
Yeah.
It would still taste weird.
Something about the sound of those ice cubes jingling
like makes the coffee taste better.
There's something to it.
Well, so I'm suffering.
All's not to say I'm suffering.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And I guess we weren't gonna keep up
our lovely energy for that much longer.
Right, right.
Before we launch into the complaints.
I actually have a lovely tidbit to share,
which is that I made the crunch wraps yesterday.
I saw it on your Instagram.
I said I was gonna make crunch wraps
and I made crunch wraps.
The best thing I ever ate in my life.
I know.
It's not shocking that I haven't had one before
because I've never had Taco Bell,
which isn't shocking like,
what am I gonna eat at Taco Bell?
But it's shocking that no one told me like,
hey Jack, we're having crunch wraps,
you should make one.
I feel like I did.
I told you about this place I went to in LA.
Okay, that doesn't do anything for me.
And then that's what inspired my whole journey
with Crunchwraps.
Yeah, but like, I don't know.
I just feel like you weren't emphatic about it enough.
And if you were-
I just feel like you should have copied me.
I copy everything you do.
Like there's no shame, copy me.
I thought it was like a Ben thing, you know?
No, okay, let me tell you.
I didn't know that you were passionate
about Crunchwraps too.
No, no, it's just a me thing.
He's not passionate about Crunchwraps?
No, he does it all for me.
Yeah.
But when we went to LA, everybody was like,
try this kosher restaurant, try this kosher restaurant.
I was like, sure.
We Uber Eats, did like, ordered a bunch of stuff.
It was like a Mexican place.
And they said Kosher Crunchwrap Supreme.
So I just threw one in as like an alternative entree.
You know, I didn't think I was gonna like it.
I also got like my regular bowl, you know?
Of course, of course.
And oh my God, it was the most fucking amazing thing ever.
And I had two that trip and then I went home
and I was so upset.
I actually messaged them on Instagram and I'm like,
please like, will you ship me one?
Like freeze it, I don't know, like Gold Belly, something.
And they were kind of like rude.
They were like, no.
And I was like, oh, okay, yeah, nevermind the time.
No, I didn't want it anyway.
I didn't want that.
I was just gonna kill myself.
And so then Ben and I went on the journey
of like figuring out how to make them on our own.
And they are good when Ben makes them,
but they're not nearly as good as this kosher place in LA.
Well, I haven't had that.
So all I have is like the one that I made last night,
which was parchi perfection.
It was such a nice new thing to add to the menu of my life.
I'm so glad that you liked it. And I'm so glad that you figured out how to make it because
I feel like whenever I'm at your house, I have like a very particular-
You have like two or three things that you have.
You have like a range of things that you can make. And within that range,
I have a range of things that I like that you make.
And you've got a couple things off the menu that you like, but now you have a new one.
So remind me the next time I'm at your house,
which probably won't be for so long.
Watch, you'll be here this week,
like something's gonna go up.
By the way, Ben wanted to go this weekend.
Classic us.
Just remind me that that's like
some one of your offerings, please.
Okay, you know what?
I need to add it to the recipe book, Crunchwrap.
Oh, and while you have your pen out,
I had a list written on my phone
when you couldn't find your pen.
Did you ever transcribe it?
Yes, I did.
List of people who the rules need not apply to?
Oh, no.
Karen Huger and Kelly Clarkson?
The one that I transcribed that day was,
oh, Toast Playlist, that was after.
No, when you lost your pen,
we started a list on my phone.
List of people who the rules don't apply to.
Okay.
I need like tabs in this thing.
Yeah, you do.
Cause like, it's just like a book of stuff.
Of like just paper, lists of people.
By the way, if like the police found that notebook,
they would think the person who wrote it like had dementia.
It's just so scattered.
I know, but that's what we do.
Okay, so Karen Huger, the rules don't apply.
Kelly Clarkson.
I feel like the rules do apply to Kelly.
Like you're a smart woman, follow the rules.
No, it's not just about our faves.
It's not just about our faves.
Are you capable of following the rules?
Then you should.
Karen Huger is not capable.
Oh, by the way, but that's not what we were talking about
when we made the rules.
Like, cause we were saying how everybody's always like,
well, Claudia, you said this.
No, DUI, but like if Kelly got a DUI,
I would be mad at her.
You should know better.
Like that would be unacceptable to me.
It would be acceptable to me.
So it's just about like your faves.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
List of people who my rules don't apply to.
No, because it's not faves.
Like I had said, I said this when we were talking about this
that if Taylor Swift got a DUI,
I would be like disappointed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
And you don't feel that way about Kelly.
No, it's not about your faves.
It's just about like how the world works.
I can't explain it.
So.
To me, it's about like what you're capable of.
Well, it feels like the list was sort of like my thing. And so it's my interpretation.
Okay, how about on the list, we have Claudia's submission.
Two.
Claude's.
Okay.
Jack's.
Okay, so you want Kelly, even though.
Yeah.
So this is like people who could get a DUI and.
I would look past it.
And you would defend them.
Yeah, I wouldn't defend them,
but I wouldn't like be hard on them.
I would just kind of like ask you not to make a story.
Like Lou Combs, honestly,
if Lou Combs got a DUI, I'd bury it.
Bury it, we'd cancel the show.
I'd lie and say I was sick.
Yeah.
Yeah, I love that.
Okay, we'll keep adding to it.
I had my first less than sublime sleep
with my pregnancy pillow last night.
It was still like a fine night's sleep,
but I'm definitely like looking
at the pillow differently now, you know?
It's not solving all your problems
like you thought it would.
Even though last night was still like the best night's sleep
in the last month, you know,
like it still ranks the top five night,
but in terms of it was my worst pillow night yet.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's okay.
You win some, you lose some.
That's true.
You won't appreciate the great night's sleeps
without the bad ones.
And speaking of things I lost,
it was an hour of my life last night
with The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Like to make me watch an episode that had not one,
but two, like Kyle and Mauricio,
and then Bose and Keely, like those types of scenes,
I max out at one per episode.
And we got two-
What about Pique and Dorit?
That was actually drama filled.
I know, are they gonna stay together?
She was on Watch, Drop, and Slide last night too,
and they asked her that.
First of all, they had three guests
on Watch, Drop, and Slide last night.
Did you see that?
No, I didn't because I went to watch Andrew Schultz's special.
Oh, I would love to hear your thoughts in a minute.
Yeah, we'll circle back, but continue what you were saying.
So, Dorit was the guest,
and then they had the winners of Traders,
which was two people, or maybe not the winners,
but like the people everybody's talking about,
Gabby Windy and Zac Efron's brother Dylan.
So, it was three chairs.
Gabby Windy won.
Dolores won.
I just saw a headline,
because for some reason I hadn't seen who won. Like, it's like Masked Singer, they're really keeping it under wraps. But like, just saw a headline, cause for some reason I hadn't seen who won.
Like it's like Masked Singer,
they're really keeping it under wraps.
But like I saw a headline today,
Gabby Windy won, she hasn't gotten her money yet.
Unless she is getting paid for something else.
She said that on Watch What Happens Live
that she hadn't gotten her money yet.
I feel like she won.
And that would also explain why like
she's having like an extra huge moment right now.
I think that there are multiple winners
cause I know Dolores won.
But then I saw like a TikTok type video
of the cast of traders, like participating in a trend.
And it said like two men won traders
and Gabby Wendy stands up from the table.
The top four were Dylan Efron, Dolores, Gabby Wendy
and Lord Ivar Mountbatten.
Excuse me?
That was the top four and then just tell me who fucking won.
Lord Mountbatten was on Traders?
Oh yeah, you didn't know that?
No.
I did, he made a lot of news.
I saw him making news the other day,
I think he was talking about Megan,
but I didn't realize it's because he's like the-
He was talking about Megan on Traders. I didn't realize it's because he's like the- He was talking about Megan on Traders.
I didn't realize it's cause he's the like cause du jour
of the moment.
So Dolores won, Gabby won.
Why are they making it so hard?
He was responding to the Sussex last name thing
and they got his take.
Right, right.
Wait, I'm not okay that he's on Traders.
What?
Okay, yeah, there were four winners.
Okay, well that seems-
Dylan Efron, Dolores, Mountbatten, and Gabby Windy,
and they will share the $200,000 prize.
So all I was about to say,
three people were on Watch Happens Live last night,
and Andy asked,
like, what do you think is gonna happen with you and Dorit?
The audience, they did a vote,
was like 90% they're not getting back together.
And Dorit was like, I don't really know.
And Gabby was like, isn't it up to you?
She was like, no, actually.
Like if I just said, I wanna get back together,
like that wouldn't be enough.
Yeah, she said that in the episode that he's in control,
which is like-
The worst spot to be in.
A bad place to be in.
But as I watched their conversation,
I hope they stay together.
And if I were Dorit, I would wanna stay together.
It's just too much upheaval.
They have small children, their finances are who knows.
And like, I think it would just be so messy
if they split up and they do like each other.
And I hope that they can put in the work
and get back together.
I know that like some people would be like,
well, the love is gone.
Like that's so unromantic, but like, I don't know.
I think what they have in their life at this stage
with their kids and their home is worth salvaging.
Also, he's not even home all the time
because he's always traveling.
That was her issue with him.
So maybe they could get back together.
They don't see each other that much.
They'll make it work.
I don't know.
I think that's what's better for them as opposed to,
I don't know, them splitting up, selling the house,
her moving with the kids, switching schools.
Like it's just a nightmare.
All's not to say I don't put that on the same level as Bo's and Keely and Marie's, you and Kyle's conversation.
So boring. I wanted to die.
We'll talk about in the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap at the end of the show TV recap segment, but like bored.
Yeah. And it was all like a precursor to get to St. Lucia.
It's even though I was like living for the trip.
I know, but we barely got the trip.
I know, but just like seeing the digs and stuff,
it reminded me of when the Real Housewives of New York
went to Turks and Caicos,
which is like one of their best trips yet.
And they had that villa.
Like it was very pretty.
I actually think it'll be a really good trip.
I don't know what happens.
Like I just, I'm feeling vibes wise
and like the rooms and everything.
And I like to see a newbie planning a trip.
Yeah, I, when they were showing the preview for next week of them on the boat fighting,
like it was reminding me of Columbia. It looked very choppy.
Totally. Yeah. So that's why I didn't know St. Lucia is the only country in the world
named after a woman. Fun fact. Her story.
And how like Kathy Hilton can't pronounce St. Lucia. It's literally not hard.
What does she say?
Oh no, it was Jennifer Tilly.
She's like, why can't I say it?
I don't know.
St. T. Lucia or something.
But it's not for me to judge.
No, those in glass houses.
No, not for me to judge.
Okay, well.
What else do you want to chat about before we dive in?
So Andrew Schultz, I think I watched like half so far
because I did try to get to sleep at a reasonable hour.
Who splits up a comedy special?
Well, Zach was going to bed and I think he wanted me
to keep watching so he could watch it,
but like, I was like, you know what?
We both need to go to sleep.
We've not been getting good sleep.
The boys have been just like waking up,
like they're switching off every night
of who's going to wake up.
And it was like almost 11.
And I was like, okay, that's like a good sign
to go to sleep.
Who woke up last night?
Chatty.
Classic chatty.
Classic chat.
I'm so obsessed with Chad.
So I'm at the par, what's he up to?
They're about to do IVF that he's like explaining
that process.
And so many things made me laugh
and it was actually different stuff than what you said
but maybe because like when he was saying
how he used to be so scared of like getting everyone pregnant
that like when he would jerk off in the toilet bowl,
he'd flush twice and wipe it down with wind ice
because he was scared that when his mom took a dump,
it would splash back up into her sperm
and get her pregnant and then he'd have a son and brother.
Hilarious.
Crying, laughing.
Yeah, that was really funny too. I can't recap a part of a son and brother. Hilarious. Crying, laughing. Yeah, that was really funny too.
I can't recap a part of a special with you.
That's so crazy to watch half.
We have to talk about it tomorrow when you finish it.
Oh, and by the way, the way that you framed it
made it seem like you didn't know how it goes
when he has IVF and when you have the picture
at the end of the video montage,
that it's a shock that he has a child.
But he talks about his child the entire time.
I didn't say that.
I knew he had a child and I knew that IVF worked.
I didn't know if it was this round of IVF that worked.
Okay, the way I heard it yesterday,
which I obviously misheard was that he's telling the process
and I thought maybe he even hadn't shared yet
that he has a kid and that was how the world knew.
It was a big shock.
He did, he did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so it's fine that you misheard. It's not a big shock. He did, he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so it's fine that you misheard.
It's not a big deal.
It happens all the time.
No, but I really was enjoying it.
It's really quality comedy.
Yeah.
They don't make them like that anymore.
I'm so glad you like it.
I'm so glad you like it.
So many funny jokes like about the Jews
that were like not offensive.
Jackie, I completely agree.
I thought the Jewish jokes were so funny.
Yeah.
And not offensive, agreed.
He's not a Jew, is he?
No, but with a name like Andrew Schultz,
every time I find out he's not Jewish, I'm shocked.
I'm like, Andrew Schultz, I went to camp with Andrew Schultz.
Yeah.
He's not.
He's not, confirmed?
No, confirmed.
Interesting.
He also doesn't look Jewish.
It's just his name.
Yeah, it's also his like brand.
His vibe is not Jewish.
You think?
Is not Jewish.
Oh, agreed, agreed.
Yeah.
Agreed.
So that was fun.
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Our first story is something that we sort of manifested
or maybe I just like wouldn't have looked at this headline
if we hadn't spoken about it earlier in the week.
Who knows? But Sydney Sweeneyey trouble in paradise with her man's she has extended her hotel stay without her fiance
So listen to the fuck do they know this into the deep?
Sydney Sweeney has made herself comfortable at a swanky hotel, but she wasn't living the good life with her fiance this from TMZ
He was not with her and it's raising concerns about their relationship
sources familiar with the situation tell TMZ that Sydney had been staying at the
Beverly Hills Hotel since around mid-February and her fiance has not been part of the extended stay.
Now she's in Paris for Fashion Week and it appears that he isn't there either.
Sources say Sydney has been seen around the Beverly Hills Hotel with a couple of girlfriends
and a bodyguard. Also told that Sydney had besties, Sydney and her besties had several meals at the hotel's famed Polo Lounge and they also spent a lot of time and a bodyguard. Also told that Sydney and her besties
had several meals at the hotel's famed Polo Lounge,
and they also spent a lot of time at the bar.
Sydney even had lunch over the weekend
with Lauren Sanchez at the pool.
Just an interesting fact as part of the story.
Yeah.
Well, let's get to that in a minute.
Okay, so sidebar with the Lauren Sanchez thing.
Sydney looks like she has a couple girlfriends
with her in Paris, though it's unclear
if it's the same girlfriends from the extended hotel stay.
The situation is pretty interesting, says TMZ,
as they first reported Sydney and Jonathan
recently postponed their May wedding,
blaming the delay on their busy schedules.
Sydney's extended stay without Jonathan
has folks at the hotel buzzing
about whether they're broken up,
and on its face doesn't sound like a stretch.
Yeah, although I do think everything you just told me
could be explained away in one manner or another. Yeah, maybe she's renovating her house. Right, although I do think everything you just told me that could be explained away in one manner or another.
Yeah, maybe she's renovating her house.
Right, right.
And I do think that like, just to be devil's advocate,
like if you're marital home,
let's say they share a house together,
you're broken up or whatever,
and you're a celebrity like that,
like you can get another house relatively quickly.
You don't need to stay at a hotel.
It's not like, you know, Tom Scavo renting a condo.
He would move out.
Let's be real, like who's paying for the house?
I don't know, he's a restaurateur.
So am I, you know, like.
Yeah, it could mean a lot of things,
but I'm gonna operate under the premise
that he has money, otherwise, like what's going on?
Otherwise, like seriously, what's the point?
Yeah, like you said he's ugly.
He's always- I didn't say ugly.
You said he's butt fucking ugly.
That's not what I said, to be clear.
I think I said like-
You said Tom Ackerley is handsome,
which left space for the fact that this guy is not,
even though I think this guy is fine.
I definitely made an implication, like an inference,
but I didn't say it.
You inferred that he's uggo.
That's how you interpreted it,
and I'm not gonna step on your toes of interpretation. But I wanna say, I think that he's a go. That's how you interpreted it. And I'm not gonna step on your toes of interpretation.
But I wanna say, I think that he's nice looking.
I didn't say that he wasn't.
But I do think he has money.
Well, I hope so.
So I do think it can all be like explained away,
but I also think there's something going on here.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's especially the wedding postponement in tandem.
With all of us.
Like how are you engaged to someone
and you don't spend any time with them?
That's so Hollywood though.
Like, do these people even know each other?
Like these people who are in relationships,
that's why it's like, okay, Dorit and PK,
like just stay together, whatever.
You're not gonna see each other.
Well, Dorit and PK are different.
Like they're a family.
Like, but I know what you mean, like some of these-
They're a family.
Like a giant tree, reaching up towards the sky.
Great, great musical reference.
Thank you for bringing that back into my life.
Probably one of the worst songs from the Dream Girl soundtrack,
but I don't wanna get into that.
No, no, no. Yes.
There's like some actual like skip.
What's the worst song from the Dream Girl?
No, that's a skip.
No. It's like also this really lame emo like part of the movie. What's the worst song from the dream girl? No, that's a skip. No.
It's like also this really lame emo
like part of the movie.
And everybody's like crying.
And it's just like, get me back to Beyonce
and Jennifer Hudson.
Yeah.
And get me back to the show girls, the dream girl.
I didn't watch dream girls.
It's been far too long.
I would say like one of like Jamie Foxx's solo songs
would be the worst.
You know, it's very like Sharon.
Okay, but at least Jamie Foxx is famous.
The guy who's singing,
"'We Are a Family Like a Giant Tree',"
he's like that manager guy who gets like sidelined
by Jamie Foxx, right?
He's like such a loser.
What's it called?
We are a family.
Why isn't it called,
we are a family?
Like a giant tree.
It's also just like a poorly written song.
I think a lot of the music from that-
Family.
And it's by the way sung by the whole like everyone. Jamie Foxx, Jennifer Hudson,
Beyonce. No, but it starts with that big weenie guy.
Is that like the weenie guy who's like their original like brother slash manager? I think
he's someone's brother. Keith Robinson. I need to watch the movie again. Dream Girls. Who does he
play? I feel like this is it. But I. For sure. I just need to know who he freaking plays.
Freaking plays.
I actually hate the word freaking.
I know, the actual F word seemed extreme in this situation.
I agree, I agree.
Okay, they're not making it easy for me to find out.
It shall remain a mystery.
All's that to say, it's definitely up there
as one of the worst songs on the soundtrack.
I stand by what I said.
Okay. Back to Sydney Sweeney. For me, there's definitely up there as one of the worst songs on the soundtrack. I stand by what I said. Okay.
Back to Sydney Sweeney.
For me, there's no love lost if this is true.
I'm not gonna like celebrate obviously.
I want her to be happy.
It's sad to see a relationship end,
but it definitely has potential for her and Brendan Sklinar.
And I was really happy to see after,
I think it was on Monday's episode
where I brought up my little gripe with Brendan Sklinar,
which felt like kind of niche to me.
I don't know why I was not the only one.
The comments were like, the feedback was really overwhelming.
People are, and I, if you're,
whether you're team Justin or team Blake,
people are also finding Brendan Slenar
to be really annoying and wishy washy.
And I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way.
You know what it might be?
It might be that like Sydney and the studio want to
sow doubt in people's minds about her relationship so that they can ship her
and Brendan for the betterment of their new movie.
And she's sort of, and it's like, okay, sure,
I'll live at the Beverly Hills Hotel,
like for the movie, for the bitch.
Studios pay in, can I bring my bitches?
Lauren's coming for lunch, what's that about?
Okay, yeah.
I mean, the depths that Lauren Sanchez goes
when it comes to like social climbing
and just like networking,
and I don't mean that in a negative way.
Like I think social climbing is a grossly underrated skill.
They never cease to amaze me, you know?
Like when you think about who comes on her and Jeff's boat,
like, so Sydney Sweeney, why not?
You know, it's just only a little shocking because so far
she's pretty much kept with celebrities
in her own age demographic.
Yeah, like what could Sydney Sweeney do
for Lauren Sanchez? I think the better question is what. Yeah, like what could Sydney Sweeney do for Lauren Sanchez?
I think the better question is
what can Lauren Sanchez do for Sydney Sweeney?
What can't she do?
Oh wait, I know.
She can send her to space.
I know.
The Housemaid is an Amazon MGM studio production.
Maybe Lauren is working on the movie.
Maybe she has.
Oh, 1,000%.
I can see her being like wanting to get into production.
So Joe, what's his name?
Jeff throws her a bone, like here,
produce this random movie I'm making.
Or it's like Lauren likes to read girly swirly books
and Jeff's like, what should we make into a movie?
And she said The Housemaid, which was a good call.
Even though like in the breadth of the Amazon's like brands,
them owning MGM studios are like their partnership
with MGM studios.
They make a lot of movies like is a huge part of it.
But I don't think Jeff Bezos has anything to do with that.
Having said that, if his girlfriend wanted a job in movies,
like that's where, that's the department he would call.
Yeah, but also Frieda McFadden is a Kindle Unlimited author.
So the housemate is like a book that only sits on Kindle
and Amazon.
That's like a big 360 partnership.
It is, but again, like in the breadth of things
that Jeff Bezos has his hands in,
like Kindle Unlimited is not relevant to his,
like I'm sure he doesn't even know what Kindle Unlimited is.
I know he knows that they make a Kindle.
I know he knows that.
I'm sure he reads books on Kindle.
Don't you think?
Yeah, but I don't think he subscribes to Kindle Unlimited.
You think he's reading next to early poor?
I think he gets a free subscription.
Actually, I feel like he reads physical books.
How could he?
He's invented the Kindle.
That's true. He like destroyed the industry.
But then he also brought it back.
Brought it back, of course.
He did Amazon.
Like Amazon is books.
Yeah, and then they have Amazon bookstores,
which just seems so backwards to me.
Yeah, and Barnes and Noble is coming back
thanks to TikTok. Obsessed. So and Noble is coming back things to TikTok.
Obsessed.
So that we should make a list of TikTok pros and cons.
And one pro I would say-
I mean, we would be here all day.
Well, the con list would be rather long,
but the revival of the book industry
has been a lovely by-product.
That's a good pro for TikTok.
Another by-product is lots of stay at home moms,
like earning income as creators.
That's all social media,
but TikTok specifically has like a really big niche.
Yes.
I would say the giggles, that's a huge,
the amount that I chuckle, that's huge.
The direct con is the amount of time that you spend.
Of course, we're not going into cons.
We know them.
You know, they are, they're many.
Of course, Osama.
That definitely comes to mind when you think of cons.
But pros, I think those three for now are good.
Okay, it's something.
And I do wanna-
That we have met some new audience members, yeah?
Yeah, yeah, we do pick up a couple stragglers on TikTok.
A lot of like, you know, a lot of youth.
A lot of youth.
And I just want to say to our youthful listeners,
while I love you, you're welcome here, of course.
She's no longer focused on you.
I'm so not.
This show was like actually really not for you.
It's for the Boomers.
And the Boomers have been showing themselves
and I love you.
Show yourself.
I need to start like speaking more directly
to our Boomer community.
I love this pivot for you.
Yeah, I feel like everybody's like at chasing Gen Z.
Go, go chase Gen Z.
They're seriously like, they're not my problem anymore.
And the more I think about it, like,
this show is really not for them.
We're kind of sophisticated.
We are kind of sophisticated.
We're an acquired taste.
You're right.
You don't like us.
Acquire some taste.
Ramona Sigur slayed the house down boots when she made that her tagline.
There are so many taglines that like over the years
fall flat, they don't age well, they weren't funny,
they were weird, but there are a couple.
And that is one of them.
I would say that's one of the best ever.
I'm an acquired taste.
You don't like me?
Acquire some taste.
Like it's funny.
It's to the point.
And she really isn't acquired taste.
Like some people really don't like her.
Yeah.
I mean, for me, it's Jackie Goldschneider
top quality fabric will be the number one forever
just because of how much we use it in everyday life.
And one that I actually use all the time
that was really appropriate for the woman,
but also sometimes like you just need to say it.
There's two.
The first is you either love me or hate me.
There is no in between with me.
Danielle Stout season one, Real Housewives of New Jersey.
Like she was, by the way, they, nobody was ever like
ambivalent about Danielle.
Like she really was.
Was there ever a lot of love?
Jacqueline Lurita like couldn't quit Danielle Stout.
The other was love for her.
Okay.
And then her weird boyfriend with the long hair
who like showed up with his goons at the country club.
Danny, yeah, thank you.
And then another one that I just find myself quoting
all the time is, and it's not relevant to me or my lifestyle
or even the person who said it,
I don't know what she was talking about,
but I worked too hard for this zip code to go home now.
Desperate.
Desperate, but whenever I work hard at something, I worked.
No that was Kyle Richards.
Oh wait.
No.
Yes it was Kyle Richards.
She didn't work hard for the zip code.
She was born in it.
It's Taylor Armstrong in a plea of desperation.
Oh, then it's like a little bit darker.
Of course.
I worked too hard for the zip code to go home now.
Kyle doesn't have to say that.
You're right.
So yeah, that kind of changes things. That's not as fun.
Certainly not.
But I feel like the joke is that Kyle's always talking
about her zip code.
Yeah, it just happens that there was zip code crossover,
but Kyle would never have to say that she didn't work hard
for the zip code.
She was born there.
Her whole family's there.
She like, even if she left, she's still there there you could take the girl out of the 90210 but you
can't take the 90210 out of the girl I don't know why I just want to triple
check go ahead you need to hear it from Taylor's mouth yeah yeah it's Taylor
Kyle's that season was I'm born and raised in Beverly Hills. This is my town, sure. Can you say the same thing twice?
Totally.
So wishing Sydney Spunny the best
and hopefully this is true.
Yeah, yeah.
Our next story is some influencer cocktail news.
Alex Earl and Kygo are leading a $3 million investment
in up and coming canned cocktail margarita brand.
So Alex Earl has been teasing like a new big thing
that she's doing and she had said on her Instagram
that she's getting involved with a canned cocktail company,
a brand that like wasn't kind of doing well,
but her and her friends like actually tried it
and loved the taste and it's their favorite.
So she got involved and it also is now cleared.
A lot of other big celebrities have gotten involved
in like reviving this brand and investing.
It's called Sip Mart and it's canned margaritas.
Yeah, I asked Ben about it.
What did Ben say?
He had heard of it.
And I actually think like she was gonna enter
the alcohol space in some way.
And so her picking up like a defunct brand
that already has like all the infrastructure
she doesn't have to start from scratch is much smarter.
It's less work for her.
And like it's half the work has already done there.
Just, it was a flop, you know?
It wasn't a bad product, but nobody wanted,
like nobody, they didn't have good momentum.
So for them to just sort of pick up,
it's actually very smart.
But also it has a lot of like strategic backers.
So it's not just like Alex Errol on her own
with $3 million.
No, it's the Palm Tree guys who do those festivals.
That's Kygo, also Michael Rubin, July 4th boy.
Yep, July 4th boy.
Aoki Labs by Steve Aoki,
former executive chairman of Founders Brewing, John Green,
and anti-fun boxer and influencer,
Jake Ventures Capital Firm.
Okay, so that's still John Green.
But it's like a lot of big people in the partying space,
DJs, festivals, like this is sort of guaranteed to work
just given who's invested in it,
how many events they throw.
And big people with success under their belt too,
no success.
It is interesting though that there are a lot of like
big names a part of it,
but it's being branded as like Alex's thing.
It's like they all invested in the idea
of her being the face.
Yeah, that's very smart.
Yeah, it is.
Even though they're all celebrities themselves.
I'm sure Aoki could have had like a canned cocktail.
Aoki cans, you know, whatever.
Yeah.
You can't, if I were to launch a new canned cocktail company,
as you guys know, I already have one.
It's called Spirit Society.
It would be called, you cans look sick.
You should talk to Bren about a rebrand
or maybe get like a diffusion line.
The idea would only be,
the rebrand would only be contingent on Mercedes Javid
and her husband Tommy wanting to be on board
because they are the direct inspiration.
So they would be your Alex Earl.
Yes, and then we would have a flavor
that's like, has like hints of mahogany and it would
be called.
You look like piece of wood.
You look like piece of wood.
Now, if you don't watch Chess of Sunset, you have no idea what I'm talking about and you're
really missing out.
Yeah, that's beautiful.
Also Alex Earl posted today an interview that's coming up on her podcast and she doesn't say
who it is, but the commenter seemed to have sussed it out because she's like talking to
someone looks very serious, almost like Diarrhea, the CEO. And she's like, I admire is, but the commenters seem to have sussed it out because she's like talking to someone looks very serious
Almost like diarrhea of a CEO and she's like I admire you so much as a female entrepreneur and you always speak your mind
People are saying it's Bethany. Oh
For sure for sure which would explain a lot and we'll finally get clarity on dinner gate. Oh my god
I'm like literally dumb because I saw the clip and I was like, oh the comments definitely have it figured out and they're like
Oh, it's definitely Beth Beth. Everybody's calling her Beth. You're lying and I was like, oh the comments definitely have it figured out and they're like, oh, it's definitely Beth Beth
Everybody's calling her Beth. You're lying and I'm like who the fuck it's Beth and
And
So I immediately became disinterested I'm like why is Jackie breaking this up like Alex's weird friend Beth who cares like I thought
she had like a home friend named Beth and
Now is making a lot more sense. It's also interesting how
This is her first episode drop,
I think since leaving or dropped or whatever.
And it looks totally different.
She appears to be like in a professional studio.
Up until this point.
Yeah, she had been doing all of it in her house.
Yeah, I feel like there's like different iterations
of her, like she has some sister episodes,
some like vloggy episodes,
and now some sit down serious episodes.
Some Braxton episodes.
Brax.
He's an investor in this project.
His name was on the thing.
His name was on the thing,
and she's like kicking a golf ball off of his mouth
in the videos.
Cute, I thought the creative was very,
she's very pretty, and everything she does is like cute,
and the outfits were great,
and Braxton and the girlies on the golf course,
like it was really cute.
Yeah, really, really cute.
And them being in business together,
like bodes well for the health of their relationship
because that's your nip for the long haul.
Yeah.
Even though it's not like you're going like nine to five
every day, you have to like see him if it doesn't work out.
Right, right at the water cooler.
Just at like the board meetings.
She makes more money than him, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, cause we know now like for this year,
he's getting $2 million, which is obviously a lot,
but for Alex, I think she probably makes
$2 million in a month.
Yeah, she definitely could.
So it's cool, you'd love to see that.
Yeah, but that's why I think they really love each other.
I would love her too, like.
Yeah, but you know.
No, I really think they're, sorry,
that was like shady and I didn't mean to speak.
They are, I think, like the real deal in terms of like love.
Yeah, I think so.
They seem like really happy together.
Another business partners, we'll see how that works.
So yeah, this is cool.
Good luck.
GL.
To sit marks.
Yes.
Next to our little controversy,
like seriously, this movie Snow White is like such a curse.
So what is the controversy now? I didn't even hear about it.
I've actually like I have it blocked from my brain.
Like I'm not interested.
They've been like hush hush.
And now Disney is scaling back the Snow White Hollywood premiere
amid all the controversies.
So Snow White is set to come out on March 21st.
Disney is hosting a Hollywood premiere of Snow White on March 15th.
But the studio won't be rolling out the red carpet like it usually does.
The afternoon festivities will include a pre-party and a screening at the El Capitan Theater with Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot.
However, the red carpet will not include dozens of media outlets usually invited by Disney to interview the cast and creatives at its premieres.
Instead, coverage will be limited to photographers and a house crew. The studio did not come in for this story,
but the scaled back plans come amid controversy
surrounding the film.
So I can't even-
Well, so which controversy do you think
is most directly affecting the film?
Is it the little person erasure?
Is it Golgadot and Rachel Zegler
clearly not liking each other?
And every time Rachel Zegler does something
to promote the film, she goes on Twitter afterwards
to say Free Palestine,
because she's working with an Israeli Jew.
Which part of it, which scandal do you think
is affecting it the most?
I do think the war is like the most recent one.
Cause I do think they've rode the waves
of like the Peter Dinklage stuff.
Rachel Zegler has like constantly-
Was Peter Dinklage pro casting little people
as dwarfs or no?
He was not pro, like having dwarfs,
but then it was like, if you take them out,
then that's-
There's no work in Hollywood for-
Little people who aren't getting a job.
But I think it was like the portrayal of them
being like these caricatures-
Mythical.
And like stereotypical, like bad traits
and not nuanced people.
Okay.
You know, but I think it's been very difficult for them.
And then they did the trailer and you can see that the,
the dwarves, if they're calling that them that,
I'm not sure, are back.
But they're CGI.
So seven little people didn't get a job?
Correct.
Wrong.
That's the wrong call.
Like I said, little person erasure.
Little person erasure.
Then Rachel Zegler's like, aside from, you know,
gal Godot and like invalidating her as a person
all the time,
she's like constantly like saying stuff
and then having to like go and apologize for it.
Yeah, like, I mean,
she was talking about like the stereotype
of like Disney princesses being like, you know,
princesses damsel in distress.
She's not a damsel in distress.
It's a girl, it's a Disney movie.
Shut up like this.
She's not going to be saved by the prince.
She's not going to be dreaming about true love.
She's dreaming about becoming the leader
she knows she could be.
Pass like.
I can't believe this movie after everything
is like still coming out.
This should have been, you weren't here on Friday,
but Powerpuff Girls CW reboot like was canceled,
but the trailer leaked.
Claudia was seriously like.
I can't believe this movie hasn't even come out yet.
I thought that's what you were gonna say.
I can't believe it's coming out next week.
We've been talking about it for years.
I feel like it was just always like,
oh, at Christmas and I'll get buried with Christmas movies.
But it's literally coming out next week.
They're not even doing a proper premiere
because everyone is just so messy
and like no one can be around Gal Gadot,
who's like an actual queen and like a beacon of morality.
And-
No, she's such a queen.
She's such a queen.
And like the fact that they had to present together
at the Oscars, that little shit, Rachel.
Like I just can't believe that they're still going forward
with all of this.
And now they're also scaling back.
Cause it's like, if you're gonna do it, do it.
It's just like, I, the only,
this is not my circus at my monkeys.
Like I didn't ask for this movie.
I didn't ask for Rachel's egg.
Like I don't care.
And Snow White is also not a film,
like a Disney film that I have like a fond relationship
I have like a fond relationship with.
Like when I heard some of the music that's coming out, I'm like, I don't know these songs.
Most Disney movies, like Little Mermaid just came out.
I know every word.
I know Hi Ho, Hi Ho, It's Off to Work We Go.
I'm sure they took that song out too
because it was about the little people.
So this isn't a movie I particularly give a shit about
in terms of the story.
Well, I do love a live action remake
and in any other time with any other lead actress,
I'd be sat and I can't decide if I wanna watch it
to support Gal Gadot or if I wanna not watch it
to boycott Rachel Zegler.
I know, it's kind of...
It's tough.
We're kind of at a crossroads.
So it's like, is everybody gonna watch it
because everybody might feel seen?
Like you have two sides of the coin,
there's someone for everyone, no matter what you believe.
It's kind of like, it's very egalitarian.
Or is there someone for everyone to boycott
so no one's watching it?
Right, that's when like with the war,
like nobody wanted to,
they were boycotting Starbucks on both sides.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, but that was also like, I think more confusion.
Like people didn't know like what they were boycotting.
Yeah.
And like nobody really knew what Starbucks' stance was.
Yeah.
And I don't think they had one, they just make coffee.
You know?
Yeah, but I think that they sometimes make coffee in Israel.
Was that the problem?
They don't make coffee in Israel, that's the thing. Like they, for years think that they sometimes make coffee in Israel. Was that the problem? They don't make coffee in Israel.
That's the thing.
Like they, for years, like they refused,
there's not one single standing Starbucks in Israel.
That's why the popular coffee brand Aroma,
which is actually coming to the US slowly,
started as like a replacement for Starbucks in Israel.
So they have like, if you've been following for years,
like you know, like Starbucks doesn't fuck with Israel.
Then all of a sudden during the war,
it's like Starbucks is pro Israel. So the Palestinian side started boycotting Starbucks. And we're like, doesn't fuck with Israel. Then all of a sudden during the war, it's like Starbucks is pro-Israel.
So the Palestinian side started boycotting Starbucks
and we're like, no, they're not.
There was like one employee who wore a pin
and they were like, can you not?
Yeah, no, but other employees wore other pins.
Yeah, it was like, it was a self-expression thing.
It wasn't an official Starbucks communication memo sent out.
Yeah, that was like McDonald's too.
Correct.
But McDonald's is in Israel.
Actually was just looking through my time hop
and I saw this picture of me and Benny
eating McDonald's in Israel.
It's so, it's like so much better.
Well, it's also kosher.
Yeah, but like the offerings is not the same menu.
Like you can get a schnitzel.
Like it's so good.
Yeah, that's like McDonald's Paris cuisines.
Yeah, yeah, where else?
I had McDonald's in Portugal, very similar. Like it wasn't a fancy menu. Yeah. Oh. Where else? I had McDonald's in Portugal.
Very similar.
Like it wasn't a fancy menu.
Yeah.
Oh, sad that they didn't have.
No, it was good.
It was good.
They didn't have Portuguese.
McEdeez.
No, Portuguesees.
Portuguese McEdeez.
Oh.
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Okay, so the thing I wanted to tell you,
because this thing, the man-scaped ad
about Spring Break reminded me.
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against Bonnie Blue, I'm now constantly berated
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Yeah, she's on Spring Break in Cancun.
I don't know if you saw they're like sucking tequila
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I did see.
Look, why?
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Does it get any better than that?
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Like I officially know,
like I know what Bonnie Blue is up to now,
like for the foreseeable future.
Me too, do you see that she bought like a $500,000 car?
I did see that she bought a $500,000 car
and somebody, I saw the funniest tweet about it.
It was like.
Would you let a thousand men take it for a ride? Yes, how did you see that? I mean, we have the same, about it. It was like. Would you let a thousand men take it for a ride?
Yes, how did you see that?
I mean, we have the same,
maybe it's because we share Facebook.
Oh, it's because we share Facebook.
We share all social media.
Which is then connected to our Instagrams.
Right, Instagram, everything.
It actually makes it helpful for knowing
that we saw the same things.
It does, and I thought it was a great,
very poignant question to ask.
Bonnie Blue, you spent $500,000 on a car
at your most prized possession.
Would you let a thousand men take it for a drive? No
because it's too precious to her. Most like correct. Unlike her own body. Pussay.
Yaddy yaddy. Correct. Our next story Zack Brian has a new girlfriend and goes
Instagram official with her her name is Hannah Duncan and he has posted her on
his Instagram stories.
So Zach-
He posted her thigh gap, like that's all I saw.
Zach Brian went Instagram official.
They were also like spotted together,
like photographed in Australia.
So like you knew he was seeing someone,
but for him to post her on his story is another step.
Zach Brian went Instagram official
with his new flame, Hannah Duncan,
less than five months after his messy breakup
with Brianna Chicken Fry, which we have spoken about
at Nazium, so it's that Zach Brian,
if you haven't been following.
Not Luke Brian, not.
I don't think, not Luke Holmes,
not Zach Chickenfry Brown Band.
Not Zach Brown Band.
No, even though he has like a lot of relationship drama
with his divorce.
One day at a time.
Yeah, one toxic male country star at a time.
I mean, it's not shocking that like,
we knew he was gonna have another girlfriend, right?
But it's really crazy to,
and that's what I think Brianna Chickenfry,
why she didn't take the money was like,
you know, nobody,
I didn't know there was anything wrong with him
when I got into a relationship,
there was no warning signs.
And now I feel like everyone who goes into a relationship
with him like knows, you know,
there's, you can think that Brianna was lying, whatever,
but there is information out there about him now.
And so you can go into a relationship with him
more informed, because there's gonna be a power imbalance.
He's a rock star and he doesn't date other rock stars.
He dates civilians.
That's like his thing, because he likes to be richer
and more powerful.
Yeah.
So Brianna did everyone who's gonna date him a huge service in knowing like there's a seed of doubt, even if you don't believe everything Brianna did everyone who's gonna date him
a huge service in knowing like there's a seed of doubt.
Even if you don't believe everything Brianna said,
like, and you're like, Zach, Brian was wrong.
You know these things now.
So I'm wishing her the best,
hopefully like getting worldwide cancellation.
Like maybe it changed him, God willing.
Like I hope that I really do
so that this girl doesn't suffer.
Yeah.
But I'm sure she's seen what we've all seen
and she's going into it, hopefully eyes open.
Maybe she thinks she can change him.
Who knows what she's thinking, but they are together.
I was trying to see how old she is.
I do also think that that affects-
Plays a factor.
Yeah, but I can't see.
So, good luck.
That's just so crazy about fame.
Cause like this person is objectively like short and ugly.
And this model, she's gorgeous.
She's like tall, perfect model.
He put this picture up that we're talking about
on his Instagram.
It's like her standing, he's like standing way behind her
and she's like looking out at the ocean.
So it's just like a silhouette of her body
and you could see the ocean between her legs
because I saw skinny her legs. So I's just like a silhouette of her body and you could see the ocean between her legs because I was skinning her legs.
So I like, she literally has this like amazing body.
And it's just so crazy what like money and fame does
because Zach Brian is in no like world
on the same level looks-wise.
Yeah, she's 27 and he's 28.
Okay, good.
Frontal lobe is there.
Yeah.
Decisions can be made.
They also weren't in Australia.
They were at an Australian bar in New York City.
Very similar.
And she's Australian.
So they might as well have been in Sydney.
There was a lot of Australia going on in New York.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was, yeah, it was, Cody Simpson was there too.
He's always there.
He swam up to the bar.
Yeah.
So we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Maybe, hopefully he can be a better man.
Like I genuinely only wish the worst for this person,
you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story
that will lead into our TV recap, sort of?
Because it's a bit of reality TV news
because the Valley season two trailer dropped yesterday
and a lot is happening.
Like almost too much to keep up with.
Every couple is- It was a long trailer. Like almost too much to keep up with. Every couple is-
It was a long trailer.
Like literally every couple could be an entire storyline
for another show.
Like on a show like Real Housewives,
just Jason and Michelle would be a lead story.
He's accusing her-
No, and the big thing is obviously Jackson Brady,
but that wasn't even like the biggest thing
from the trailer.
Jason's accusing Michelle of being a hooker
for a billionaire sleeping with him for $1,500.
Lala Kent is ripping Jason a new asshole.
Right.
Nya and Danny, who are like the golden couple,
like there's some controversy there.
Someone said that he's like feeling up girls at the bar.
Then someone said that Janet's husband takes his ring off
when he goes to the bar.
Kristen and Luke are engaged and pregnant, we know now.
Jackson and Brittany are obviously getting divorced.
He's an addict.
She said that he's been spying on her in the house,
set up spyware.
And bringing girls home to the house.
Well, yeah, they probably like trade off
very like Gina Kirshenheider-Kasita,
so the kid doesn't have to move.
And maybe on his time, he's bringing girls over.
That's insane.
The Valley is kind of a perfect combination
of like a preexisting fan base
because of Jackson, Britney, Kristen, Jodie,
like there's history there.
But everyone they brought on is so desperate to be famous.
It has that real je ne sais quoi
that original Vanderpump Rules had.
Like these people don't give a fuck
and they're willing to really out every element
of their personal lives.
Yeah, but I wouldn't even say desperate to be famous
because the people who still act that way
are Jax and Kristen.
Like agents of chaos who will do anything
to make the show great.
Because Michelle is cool as a cucumber.
Doesn't, gives us nothing,
but her life is just inherently interesting.
And Jason too, they're like very,
they're kind of like fancy,
but like their world is crumbling around them
and there's no way for us to not see that.
Danny and Nia or Nia have always been like
the sweethearts of the show.
They have a really, from what we've seen
and maybe next season, like in the trailers,
just accusations that are kind of baseless,
but they had three under two because they had a baby and then twins
They really like are supportive of one another. She is just I think she was like Miss America or she was a pageant girl
But she's just like sweet to her core. He's like so hard-working. He's a working actor. He's just like so supportive of her
She's breastfeeding every other scene with the twins at her tits and the toddler running around. Like they're just lovely people,
it seems, who really love each other.
But then we got a couple moments where like, I don't know.
There's definitely, no, not truth,
but like every couple, no couple is perfect, right?
Everyone's gonna have the other side of them.
Like you saw a little bit of that.
Nothing's crazy, but like she just,
she's very like controlling,
like a perfectionist a little bit.
And when he, I think he got drunk and said stupid stuff,
nothing offensive, just genuinely stupid.
And she was so embarrassed that he would be that way.
And it was just awkward.
But I think they're as good as it gets,
especially in Hollywood.
So we'll see what the drama is.
And then Janet, I'm sorry,
I don't remember her husband's name.
They just had a baby last season.
She was pregnant the whole season.
So for him to be going out without the wedding ring
when she has a baby is crazy.
And now Lala's on the show and Sheena's on the show
and we saw Tom Schwartz in the trailer too.
He wasn't with Lala but I'm open.
Did you see Sheena got invited to Lady Gaga's
SNL after party?
Let me tell you that the only real press I've seen
about Lady Gaga's new album is all vis-a-vis Sheena Shay.
Queen, like Queen putting in the work.
Also, we've been accused of not supporting
Lady Gaga's new album, and then some people were going
so far as to say that we don't like the real Lady Gaga
because we don't like her when she's weird
and we only like bland Joanne.
Let me tell you, the real Lady Gaga fans know
that mayhem is a work of art and it takes days to digest.
You think I could just listen to it once
and tell you how I feel.
I've been working my way through it every single day,
listening to mayhem every day during the work
as a true Lady Gaga fan.
I listened to it front and back yesterday
and it definitely requires, and she was talking about this.
I saw a clip of her on Lost Culture Recess talking about it.
Like she really created a genre of music that she now can recognize.
Other people, they don't copy, but we're inspired by,
and she can say that she created it.
And it is, she does sort of change the face of music
every time she releases music.
And so this is just that,
because a lot of the songs are very different, right?
Even Abracadabra, which is like a bop,
but it's not English.
So it takes a little bit of rejiggering.
And like of understanding, you know?
Yeah.
I wanna listen to it a couple of times.
See how now like when I hear a song that I've already heard,
I'm like, oh, I like this one.
I feel like I've heard it before.
And then I'm listening to the lyrics.
Like you think we could say something about it
after one listen, you obviously don't know Lady Gaga.
She's very multi very multifaceted.
It's not surface lyrics and it's not surface music.
So I didn't like those criticism.
I didn't like that.
That was serious hate that we wouldn't be Lady Gaga fans.
I'm really happy for Sheena Shay.
I just wanted to say that.
I know her and her best friendship with Lady Gaga.
I love.
Yeah, love. And actually you can see like Stephanie with Lady Gaga. I love. Yeah, love.
And actually you can see like Stephanie of Lady Gaga.
Like I could see her being like a little bit of a Sheena.
You know, she's a very-
No, no, I can't see it at all.
I can.
No, like Sheena is so commercial.
Like-
Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying, Stephanie.
No, and Stephanie, like NYU art.
Like she's like, Sheena would be the girl-
But she's very sweet. Like, and that's the thing like NYU art, like she's like, she would be the girl.
But she's very sweet.
Like, and that's the thing,
Sheena is deeply misunderstood.
Like Sheena is the cheerleader
and Stephanie like is the artist working on her art.
And these two people never,
the twin, it's actually shocking.
Yeah.
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,
like I actually don't like not enjoy watching it
because I really like these women.
It makes it really hard to recap,
say anything funny or interesting
because we're going on like three episodes
in a row of nothing happening.
Yeah.
We're all still talking about the wallet thing
that Sutton said because it really was so crazy.
Wait, I'm sorry, we're not talking about it enough.
Everyone. I agree.
No one's mentioned it.
And when Sutton was crying in St. Lucia,
just being anybody gonna tell Dorit enough
that that has got like, that this is too far
or that is too mean?
I'm like, what has Dorit said nothing
compared to the wallet thing?
Those things need to be said to you.
Sutton is so crazy.
She's becoming so unlikable.
And so it used to be that like,
when she would fight with people,
I really never agreed with her,
but like she really brought other things to the show
in terms of like entertainment.
And now she's just like kind of a crazy old woman.
Yeah, I just, when she was crying
and saying all that in St. Lucia,
it just showed such a lack of self-awareness.
Cause the only person who's gone
below the belt here is you.
And if you guys do have mutual friends,
then in that situation,
a mutual friend should lean towards defending Duret
because you are more wrong than Duree.
Plus, Duree is going through a lot, so she does get a little bit of grace.
But even without that, like she deserves
to be sided with because you have been so, so wrong.
And the fact that they're literally like 12 year olds where they're like, how come
she can forgive Kyle so quickly and go back to being friends?
But she can't forgive me that quickly.
It's like actually-
You were never friends with Dorit.
Also all season, Kyle and Dorit have been very start
and stop, like we're moving forward
and then they can't move forward.
They've actually had a hard time getting to a place
where they can joke and laugh together again.
So it wasn't just like they had one conversation
and forgave each other.
They have like four conversations,
plus they have a preexisting friendship
that like is worth salvaging.
Right, that's a bad comparison.
Sutton and Dorit have never gotten along.
You've never been a friend to anyone except Garcelle.
So there's really nothing.
No, they hang out off camera,
their kids know each other,
their husbands know each other.
Like they had a deep friendship in history,
which makes like their whole breakup even sadder.
But like for you to compare,
like that's just you saying words.
There's no comparison.
Yeah, and for you to be upset
that Dorit has forgiven Kyle faster than she's forgiving you,
you're not even asking for forgiveness.
You haven't even said sorry.
You're still fighting.
Like you said the wall thing,
you didn't say sorry for that, so forgive what?
You act like someone who doesn't want a relationship
with her and then you're mad that you can't get
your relationship with her back.
I do think it's also becoming increasingly more difficult
for Garcelle to like blindly have Sutton's back.
Yeah, but it's also Garcelle is conflicted
because of how much Sutton kisses Kyle's ass.
That's the issue for Garcelle.
Yes.
It's like, wait, not all the other stuff.
Like that's where she's gonna turn on her
because Sutton like wants Kyle's approval too much.
It's like 12 year olds.
And I love Bo's making the comparison.
Like we've all been thinking it, but it's like,
everyone's giving me shit
for being like Dorit's mouthpiece.
What about Sutton's mouthpiece, Garcelle?
Hi, hello, how are you?
Like, why is it okay when you do it, but not me?
Yeah, and Bose has been doing it for shorter.
Like we haven't seen Bose yet,
like defend Dorit in something indefensible.
Cause for me, everything Bose has defended Dorit on is like,
is logic.
Yeah, and that's your friend.
Like I agree with my friend.
That's why we're friends.
Cause we kind of have like similar points of view.
I also really like to see Erica getting like more activated
in the drama now.
Like she really couldn't,
she obviously has like some sort of loyalty to Kyle.
Like they do have a friendship.
So when it was to read versus Kyle,
she couldn't really get involved.
She was being like a little boring mediator,
but she fucking hates Sutton.
Like she will not forgive Sutton
for not letting her off the hook with the lawsuit stuff
and making that time in her life so much harder. And so it's like, oh, now we're going after Sutton. not letting her off the hook with the lawsuit stuff and making that time in her life so much harder.
And so it's like, oh, now we're going after Sutton.
I'm in.
Yeah.
And I do think that Erica has been like so forgiving,
more forgiving than I'd ever expected her to be,
maybe even more forgiving than I personally would be.
So to know that like grudges are still being held
in the North remember is like, there's, that's my Erica.
That's the Erica I know.
But when she was like saying when they were talking
in her house and about Sutton and Dorit
and then she was like, well, it was okay.
When she did it to me, it was giving very like
what about me?
But then when she explained what they did to her,
I was like, yeah.
I'm not at the point yet where like Erica bringing up
her thing every time like makes me roll my eyes.
When people do that, it is my least favorite thing.
But my eyes were, you do that, it is my least favorite thing. But Erica's right.
My eyes were, you know, maybe moved 30 degrees north.
And then she explained what they did to her pills
and the drinking and sitting there being like,
you should figure,
and she has to sit there and take and be like,
I should figure out my medication and my alcohol.
Yeah, let's mention it all.
Yeah, no, I love that she's like now
really getting down in there. And like, dream team, no, I love that she's like now really getting down in there and like dream team
Bose, Erica and Doreen like in the villa upstairs, just obsessed.
Yeah, same.
And the rooms worked out really nicely because Kathy and Kyle share and then of course Sutton
and Garcelle and Jennifer.
And a couple things because people are saying like this group is hard to crack.
And I felt like one Kyle and Bose's conversation.
I know it was like Kyle was opening up and she was crying.
And so we shouldn't like say anything not supportive of that.
But it was a little weird to me that like,
she's been accused of not opening up to Bose.
So then the next time she has a one-on-one with Bose,
like I'm gonna start crying and sharing.
Like, I just felt like.
Formuliac.
Yeah, I'm like not genuine.
That's like not how things come about.
Like I decide. That's not how friendships work either. I'm going to decide today that I'm going to cry. Yeah, I'm like not genuine. That's like not how things come about. Like I decide.
That's not how friendships work either.
I'm going to decide today that I'm going to cry to you
and I'm going to open.
No, it's just like a metamorphosis
and they hadn't gotten there yet.
And then Kyle felt like she had been being penalized
because she hadn't shared with both.
So she's like schedules to sit down to cry.
And it's just like, it just.
To earn points.
Yeah.
I, and I felt like she was genuinely sad
and what she was saying was true,
but the decision to do it right then and there
because she hadn't been accused of opening up,
it was just like a little inauthentic, I felt.
And that's just like not how those conversations
typically come about.
So I don't know, but I know you like,
she was going through it.
So that was sad.
But then also Jennifer Tilly saying that she hasn't felt
like the group has been
that she feels like an outsider. Which I could see it's hard to agree. They have so much history and commonalities and just like husbands are friends and kids are friends and all of that stuff. But I also don't feel like Jennifer Tilly from what what I've seen, has made a huge effort to really get to know. Yeah. Yeah, she doesn't even show us her house.
No, she just shows us her purses, which I love.
And I do feel like Erica always is giving her her flowers
about how she's so stylish and she's so cool
and oh my gosh, she's an old.
And I don't know, does she pursue that friendship with Erica?
They would definitely have a lot in common.
I just feel like it's not fair to say that
when we haven't seen you really try and connect
on a deeper level either.
I don't even wanna give it too much of my brain cells,
but the conversation between Mo and Kyle was so awkward.
You know, you know.
Yeah.
And she's just waiting for him
to bring up the paparazzi pictures.
And on, pardon for the reflection,
I do not think Mauricio had anything to do with the photos.
And I do not think it was this like big coordinated thing.
Like it was probably the girl being thirsty,
but it was interesting how Mauricio did not like Kyle
saying that, like he was feeling kind of defensive
of the girl, you know, like, I don't know
if that's his girlfriend or just like some hooker,
but she was like, I know you didn't,
but I don't know if the other person did.
Yeah. And he was like, and he was like, well, he could have easily blamed it on her. I've been like, I know you didn't, but I don't know if the other person did. Yeah, and he was like, well.
He could have easily blamed it on her,
but like, oh yeah, I should really vet who I'm seeing better.
He was also spotted last night with some brunette
hooking up at the hotel.
They're divorced, like I don't know
what the hell we're talking about.
No, but I'm saying like.
They're not together, he doesn't live in the house,
she had a girlfriend for a year.
Like what the hell are we talking about?
She moved on first.
Yes!
Yeah, no, I agree.
I don't think that he did something wrong,
but that is a hard thing.
Not even for Kyle to see
because he saw her in a music video kissing a woman.
A million paparazzi pictures of her and Morgan Wade.
For the girls and because that girl
is like the age of his daughter.
It's like, that's just always gonna be a little weird.
Morgan Wade is really young.
Like, I'm sorry.
Nothing Mauricio did compares to Kyle.
It's true.
I can count literally 100 paparazzi pictures I've seen
over the last two years of Morgan Wade and Kyle,
how many stories there have been,
photos of them together that they posted,
photos of them taken by paparazzi, the music video.
She's a younger girl, like, please,
Mauricio did nothing wrong.
Let's say he called the fucking paparazzi on himself.
I would support it, okay? Yeah. What the hell are we talking about? Yeah, like please, Mauricio did nothing wrong. Let's say he called the fucking paparazzi on himself, I would support it, okay?
What the hell are we talking about?
Otherwise he's just like, what do they say?
Oh, and sorry, and Kyle did all of that
while filming two seasons of a reality show, like please.
What's that?
Like when you stand by and watch your wife
like be with someone else,
I swear, Andrew Schultz when the OBGYN
was like fingering his wife,
he was like,
I'm just a cuck in the corner.
Yeah, literally.
Like it's so stupid.
The attention, everybody's like, Kyle, how are you?
Kyle, what the, Mauricio, how are you?
No, and Garcelle making the distinction for the viewers
as best as she could that like,
oh, we're allowed to talk about Mo's pictures,
but we can't talk about Morgan.
Can't even say her name.
Remember the beginning of this season?
She said, please don't say her name.
That's why there's much to do about Moe,
because that's the thing you could talk about.
If there had been much to do about Morgan,
then by the time Moe's out pictures with someone,
it's like, oh good, he's moved on, finally.
To Garcelle's credit, she really calls it like it is
when it comes to Mauricio, Morgan, and Kyle.
She's really the only one who's not being like,
Kyle's going through a lot.
Like she's asking questions and being critical.
And I appreciate that because it's so frustrating.
Especially because these things are playing out in the public.
Like if there were whispers that Kyle were in a relationship with a woman,
we never saw them together, but it's just what the streets were saying.
And one of the women brought it up on the show.
That would be wrong. Yeah, she goes out and about. She's at the concert. She's fla saying. And one of the women brought it up on the show. That would be wrong.
But she goes out and about, she's at the concert,
she's flaunting, she's in the music video.
You can't help paparazzi, but I'm sorry, a music video.
She's bringing her on the show and we can't talk about it.
That doesn't work.
That's hypocritical.
Agreed.
So I don't need everyone to bring up the private
all the time when there are things.
People are entitled to have buckets of things that they want to keep private, but when you're
doing it publicly and you won't do it on the show that you're on, that doesn't work.
Agreed.
Tonight is Summer House, so we will be watching that for tomorrow's show.
Recapping it, Jackie will hopefully finish the latter 50% of Andrew Schultz's special
when we get that also.
I feel like it's like 30% that I have that also. I feel like it's like 30% that I have.
Great.
I feel like it's like 30.
Yeah, I'm excited for summer house.
I'm excited for lunch.
Me too, what are you gonna have?
I'm not sure.
I feel like I got some leftovers.
I think I'm gonna make salmon bowls again tonight
with the leftovers.
Make them work. That's nice.
Work them hard again.
Make it, it's a make it work moment.
Yeah, but I also have the ingredients
for Crunchwrap in my fridge.
But I don't think you have a Crunchwrap.
I don't think you have two in two days.
I think it's too much.
I think it's fine.
I think it's a little much.
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