The Toast - The Breadth of Stories: Thursday, January 30th, 2025
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Good morning, millennials.
Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday.
Hope everybody's having a day that's gargy.
Of course, a day that's pargy, of course.
And for me, it's a day that's largey
because I'm just getting bigger every day.
That's a beautiful thing.
What a wonderful update that you've shared with us.
I'm so happy for you.
Yes, of course, of course.
That's the appropriate reaction.
The bigger, the better.
Yeah, that's great.
Well, if that's the case, like I'm so good.
And at least like you're getting bigger
and we have bigger chairs, you know?
Cause some of us did two pregnancies in the buccal chairs.
That's actually an amazing point.
This new renovation couldn't have come
at a better time for my big fat ass.
And I actually, you know, when I edit the show,
like I do compare like the circle,
like the square footage that I take up on the chair
versus you, it's hard to, you know,
constantly be comparing yourself to others.
I really need to stop.
Also, like, I know you're gonna kill me.
And I just, I'm putting it out there,
like I know you're gonna kill me.
That cord to your left is just like bothering me.
Can you just like flick it, the black one?
I feel like it's-
No, no, no, like on the armrest, excuse me, behind you.
Can you just flick it off the actual chair?
Okay.
Thank you so much.
I think it's really gonna help with the beautification.
It's been flicked.
I think it's gonna help with the beautification.
Consider it flicked.
Thank you so much.
This has just been a really,
a week of trials and tribulations.
Every day we are trying new things,
new lighting, new camera.
We are getting really close.
I don't wanna jinx it, but I was, you know,
in the studio with the department of IT this morning,
just doing a lot.
The department of agriculture.
Of testing and troubleshooting, if you will.
I think we're getting really close to being
in a really good place, but I don't want to say that
because then, you know, my memory card will like die
or something.
Right, don't jinx it, yes.
Parginess is increasing every day in every way.
I mean, and that's just kind of a reflection,
I think, of who we are as individuals.
Like always trying to increase our parginess.
Every day we wake up, we said,
how are we gonna be pargy today?
It's true, it's really true.
Just like thinking of my own parginess right quick.
It's Thursday, which means it's like a very chill day
here at the toast.
We're between dear toasters, TV recaps, Queen is in Weenies.
It's kind of a day where we can finally relax
and be ourselves, you know?
Yes, so true.
We actually have pretty good stories today.
So I'm looking forward to getting into those,
but actually we can't even go on with the show
until we talk about what happened last night
on the Potomac in DC, like a passenger aircraft and a military helicopter
crashed midair.
And as of this morning, it's a recovery mission,
not a rescue mission.
They don't believe there are any survivors.
They were able to recover a bunch of people
throughout the night, but now it's officially.
Yeah, so it's a rescue mission and it's just,
it's so devastating.
No, no, recovery.
Oh, sorry, recovery.
Yeah, okay, I think.
Yeah, I get, I don't know.
I think recovery.
It's very, very sad and confusing because it seemed to be like a day rigger sort of
like flight path and that airspace is shared by the military and commercial airlines all the time. So I don't know what happened,
but like it's very unfortunate.
No, Brian had like a bunch of stories up, um,
like kind of breaking it down and explaining actually in 2013 there was a near
miss like in this exact area. So like,
this is obviously like a highly trafficked area and that's why we have,
you know, all the agencies why we have, you know,
all the agencies that we have too.
So I feel like, and everyone's like now saying like,
you know, cause if you're afraid of flying,
this is obviously gonna like send you into a tailspin,
but it really is like the first commercial crash in.
Since 2009.
Yeah, it's like really not a common thing.
So it's just such a weird feeling like a plane crash.
What is this an episode of Lost?
Yeah, I just, I hope that they figure out what happened
because these seems, there are so many systems in place
to make sure these things don't happen.
Should be avoidable, yeah.
So that's so sad.
And I saw a lot of like the passengers,
there were a lot of like figure skaters
on their way to a competition.
So it was like championship figure skaters.
I think like US national championship, like and a coaching couple.
And I'm sure we'll learn more about the victims
in the next few days, but just so sad, so sad.
So sad.
Oh my God, I didn't hear that figure skating thing.
That's really sad.
Yeah.
Well, sending love to everybody who is.
Yeah, but that was just like shocking.
Affected.
To fall asleep to and then wake up to the news.
It's just was.
Well, I missed it.
I went to bed early and then like,
I guess I'm at this part of my pregnancy
where I just like wake up in the middle of the night
for like fun.
Yeah.
You just like chill and like think about stuff
that you don't wanna do.
Yeah.
And so that was made from about 137 to 312.
And I was having her and his heartburn.
So I got up to get a tum to find that they were empty.
And yeah.
It's cream cheese gate.
Yeah, that was really like.
It's giving cream cheese.
I almost woke him up and told him to like,
go run to a pharmacy.
Like I was so mad, especially because,
but I couldn't be mad because like,
I definitely finished the tums,
but Ben retrieved it for me.
Do you know what I mean?
Like I'm always in bed being like,
can you get me a Tum?
Can you get me a Tum?
Can you get me a Tum?
So while yes, I consumed it.
I wasn't aware that we had reached rock bottom
because if we were, I would have gotten a new one.
Yeah.
And you're saying in your whole apartment,
heartburn man doesn't have another pack of Tums.
I am sure that in the laundry basket, is a pair of jeans that Ben wore last week with
a rolled up like, you know, the ones that look like pennies.
Yeah.
Um, and I'm sure there's like a dusty time in there.
And you know what?
If I knew exactly where it was, I would have taken it and eaten it.
That's how bad it was.
You should have just woken him up to ask if there are any more times in the house because
I feel like there were probably more Tums in the house.
There weren't more times in the house.
Like I run inventory on this bitch. No more Tums in the house. No more tums in the house. There weren't more tums in the house. Like I run inventory on this bitch.
No more tums in the house.
No more tums in the house.
Like I run inventory on my house.
I know every crevice, every corner, every cabinet.
Every tum.
There was not another tum.
We had this huge jug.
What more do you need?
No, I feel like Ben's the type where he knows
he has a huge jug at home,
but like he'll run out and pick up a spare.
You know, if he's on the way to something.
If he has a briefcase, there's definitely,
or backpack, there's definitely Tums in there, Turtee.
Ben's actually not like a crazy Tum person anymore.
Like when we first met, he was like just popping Tums,
like how people pop gum.
Like I think he thought it was a mint.
Like he's moved on, he pops like other things,
like a Zyrtec, like an Afrin spray, he loves that.
But I almost gave him the keys to the studio
because I just got this extra large Costco sized tum
and I was like, go get it, like seriously.
But he had a really early flight this morning
and I thought that would be like really bitchy of me,
but I almost did it.
Well, you're so big that you didn't.
Big?
You're so magnanimous that you didn't.
I know, and I just like laid there and suffered.
I really hope this part of pregnancy,
like it's not a, I hope it's not here to stay.
Like waking up in the middle of the night,
being alone with your thoughts,
and you know that you shouldn't be on your phone
because that'll just make you stay awake longer.
Like that is my own personal hell.
Yep, and that's when it's time for your Kindle.
Yes, my Kindle was actually right next to me
on the nightstand in the middle of a book
I started last night, but I just like, I don't know,
I wasn't feeling compelled to start reading
in the middle of the night.
Like, what am I, a librarian?
I know, but that's a way to take your mind off your thoughts.
You're not getting blue light, you're getting Kindle light.
You don't have to turn on the light to read a book
and wake your partner, even though I know you would love to.
Love.
And if your book is shitty, it'll put you to sleep.
Pargy. I know, I just like, And if your book is shitty, it'll put you to sleep. Pargy.
I know, I just like, my sleep is so important to me.
My sleep means a lot to me.
And I've gotten to a place, like I know pregnancy
like really sacrifices your sleep,
like it fucks with your sleep.
And I'm like, every time I reach a hurdle,
like I'm working around it.
Do you know what I mean?
Like I will not be deterred from getting my sleep.
And if you say right now, like,
just wait till you have a baby,
I'll seriously choke you out.
Like we know, we know having a baby is hard.
I seriously can't with some of these bitches.
I wasn't gonna say that.
I was gonna go to thesaurus.com
and find another way to say it.
Yeah, no, I just, like,
I actually can't deal with like bitches these days.
Pause, Claudia.
Pause.
What's another way to say just wait?
A pause.
Yeah.
Hold tight.
I'm saying another language.
No, I actually-
Must speak, ad yesh lach yeled.
Jackie, that's not even correct Hebrew.
Must speak means enough.
Must speak, ad yesh lach yeled.
Yeah, I just want to say on the record,
like I can't with these bitches.
That's something.
Like I'm allowed to complain. I'm want to say on the record, like I can't with these bitches. Like I'm allowed to complain.
I'm allowed to complain.
And everybody's like, oh, well you know, shut up.
Like I seriously can't fucking take it anymore.
Like it's like, you think this is bad.
How about you just shut up?
Like, have you tried that?
It's not exactly what I was going to say.
What I was going to say is once again,
I'm a broken record on this, which is trust the architect,
because this is all by design to prepare you
for all of that.
Imagine you go from sleeping 12 hours a night rock solid
to then having a newborn getting up every three hours.
This is your body's way of preparing.
Trust the process.
And what I'll say is take all the sleep
where you can get it.
If you're not napping every day, are you napping every day?
I feel like you're not, you're answering types at four o'clock.
Oh yeah, no, I haven't napped in months.
Go back to napping.
No, I don't like napping.
Like there were parts of my pregnancy
where I napped every day, like Pargylicious.
When I was at your house, I was napping every day.
But for the last couple of weeks,
like I haven't felt inclined to nap,
and I just go to bed at a reasonable hour, like 9.30.
I don't know, something about napping
in the middle of the day,
makes the days so long, it's like two days in one.
I'm good, the day's long enough.
Okay, that's all I'll say then.
And I'm running a successful business,
I can't just be tapping out for hours, you know?
What would you do?
Who would you talk to?
It's actually typically the hour
where I'm kind of unavailable.
So like we could sink.
Right, no, you're unavailable.
So like I'm holding down the fort
and I'm just gonna be sleeping on the job.
I don't think so.
It could wait an hour for turties.
I'm also not tired.
Like that's the other thing.
Okay, so I'm gonna just stop like trying
to give you like cheeryery advice and yes, yes
Yes, yes solves. I'm no like your resolution like the architect like how about I just can complain and why don't you just like hear me?
You know, okay. I thought sorry. I thought we were looking for solutions. I'm so sorry. Oh my god
Why would you ever think that everybody knows like there's a problem. We want to solve it. I'm so sorry. Okay, that's so Ben's offer. I am never looking for a solution when I'm complaining.
I'm just looking for misery and company.
Do you know what I mean?
That's the worst.
I agree.
How unfair.
Oh, forgot to put my wedding ring on today.
Rumor is a swirl.
Maybe it was the Tums.
Maybe it was the lack of Tum.
How wrong.
There's, thank you.
There's not another Tum in the house.
That's what I'm saying.
Could never be.
Yeah, even with the Tums, you were like doubting me.
Are you sure there wasn't one in like another cabinet?
Like, why don't you just let me live my truth?
Why don't you let me live my truth?
Okay, I'm gonna try again.
It's been a few months since I attempted to like not.
I need you to get down in the gutter with me, okay?
Join me.
Okay, so that's different than like not being
like contrarian to you.
No, not contrarian.
Like you're always just like, well.
Cause remember that episode where I tried not to disagree.
I tried to be agreeable.
Do you remember that?
No, obviously you didn't like do a good job.
I don't even remember.
We have like a clip of it.
It's like really funny.
No, it's not ringing a bell.
Let the good times roll.
So today I am not going to problem solve.
Thank you.
Like seriously.
I can't help it.
I'm such a helper.
Yeah.
That's what everybody says about you.
They say Jackie, she's such a helper,
always offering a helping hand.
That's what they say.
Well she is, they're not like saying the opposite.
No, they're just kind of like not talking about you,
if I'm being honest, like they.
Good, that's why I like it.
Oh, when you said there were good stories today,
I'm assuming there's like that planted story
about Taylor Swift distancing herself from Blake Lively.
To be honest, there is not.
However, there is a story that is swappable
and I could swap it in if you want.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, let me just say really quick.
To me, it just felt like fake news.
Yeah, I'm glad you didn't even give it
the credibility of making it a Fast Five story
because when I saw that, people are so annoying.
And again, it really harks back to a lack of media literacy
in this country.
When Taylor Swift wants you to know something,
we know she puts it at certain news outlets.
Taylor Swift has never fucked with Daily Mail.
And I'm sorry, if you even know like the smallest thing
about Taylor, you would know that's like so not
how she operates.
Like she literally writes songs about people who leave her
when she gets like bad press reputation.
That's like what the whole thing is about.
So to assume that like her best friend who's like kids
are her godchildren, she would stop being friends with
because she's being sued.
Like seriously, like how low do you think of Taylor?
But so not Taylor.
So I kind of wanted to get out of the pattern
of like making it a story every single day
that it ends in a drama.
And this felt like not even a full story,
just someone's idea of what happened.
And maybe it is true.
Maybe she is distancing herself.
But I'm just gonna need a little more proof.
I will be curious to see if Blake goes to the Super Bowl.
She was at almost every game last year and she hasn't been at a lot of games, but I know she also need a little more proof. I will be curious to see if Blake goes to the Super Bowl. She was at almost every game last year
and she hasn't been at a lot of games,
but I know she also has a lot going on.
But like the Super Bowl,
who would pass up the Super Bowl?
She's not going.
Why?
She's just not.
Like she hasn't even publicly responded
to the Justin Belton claims.
We haven't seen her.
We haven't heard from her.
Like, I don't think she's just gonna pop up
at the Super Bowl.
I don't.
Well, if Taylor brings a lot of friends and Blake doesn't go, that would be curious to me. Like I don't think she's just gonna pop up at the Superbowl. I don't. Well, if Taylor brings a lot of friends
and Blake doesn't go, that would be curious to me.
I also don't think-
But I think it would be on Blake,
like Blake's choice, not Taylor's.
Okay.
Well, if she wants to like show that Taylor,
she wants to like, you know,
dragons rise up, use one of her dragons,
she would go to the Superbowl.
So that would just be-
So she's gonna show up and she's gonna say,
Dracarys.
Dracarys, motherfucker. She literally would. So that was just- So she's gonna show up and she's gonna say, Dracarys. Dracarys, motherfucker.
She literally would.
So that will be interesting to see.
There are like other things that I'm looking for
to see what's going on.
A source in the Daily Mail could be true, sure.
Could also very well not be.
So I'm not holding too much-
Space.
Wait for that, is all I'll say.
Oh my God.
And I don't wanna talk about it every single day
cause it's really getting confusing. We have a long road ahead of us. Yeah. And I don't wanna talk about it every single day because it's really getting confusing.
We have a long road ahead of us.
And there's so many different,
like we could on the one hand talk about it for so long,
all the different theories.
And on the other hand,
we could have done that and said absolutely nothing.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, totally separately.
I'm on Boz and Dorit Talk.
Why do I keep calling her Boz?
Boz, Boz and Dorit Talk,
because there's like,
people are literally like making edits of them
as like best friends.
And Dorit posted like literally like a thirst trap
of Boz on her Instagram story today.
Like they're literally obsessed with each other
and somebody said that they're the Ariana
and Cynthia of Bravo.
And honestly, I felt that.
I saw that and that tracks.
That feels right.
1000%.
I'm just taking a tum break, excuse me.
Wow.
So yes.
How many times do you think there's too many tums in a day?
It says it on the back.
Oh.
Just go by that.
That applies to the pregnant community?
Yeah, don't overdose.
If anything, you should take less than the regular.
Like just cause.
So I think it's like every few hours, right?
Two, two to four tablets, as symptoms occur.
All right, we're sorry.
Five minutes, symptoms occurring.
Dr. Fox says they're a great source of calcium.
Yeah, they are.
Yeah.
Okay, well, cause it is Thursday,
we're in like sort of such a relaxed mood.
We could get into the Fast Five Stories if you're ready.
Is there anything else you wanted to talk about?
Any major life updates in the last 24 hours from you?
Major life updates, not particularly, no.
Okay.
It's just been kind of standard procedure.
Okay, I just wanted to ask.
That's so sweet of you.
Yeah, sometimes I like to talk to others.
To ask people how they're doing. No, that feels wrong. It's so funny because you. Yeah, sometimes I like to talk to others. To ask people how they're doing.
No, that feels wrong.
It's so funny because when I think about qualities
I really dislike in a person,
like one of my things is like,
if you're talking to somebody in the entire time,
like they don't ask you one single question,
like it's like them.
And like, I also, I feel like a lot of my,
like characteristics that I hate are like projection
of like my own self-hatred. Yeah. Because I do like, some of my characteristics that I hate are projection of my own self-hatred.
Yeah.
Because I do, some of my classic things that I hate,
I think that I do them.
But I also think it has to do with,
what you seek out in a person might not necessarily be,
you're not looking for yourself, it's like a magnet.
You need the opposites.
Opposites attract. Correct.
And you have to have different properties
in order to be attractive to me.
I think it's more so like I I just hate myself, you know?
There's definitely some of that,
but I actually don't think that you do whatsoever.
I think it's more so like, it's the competitive,
like there can't be two of you.
There just can't.
There can only be one Turti Lou,
is that what you're saying?
Yeah, like two of you,
it's like a magnet that just opposes one another.
You need your match.
Okay.
Oh, look at you again, being like so positive,
solution oriented.
You hate yourself.
You're the worst.
You need to work on self love, Claudia.
Nope, sorry.
You don't even need to fix it
because how much you hate yourself is just right.
Thank you.
That's what I've been saying.
Keep on hating.
Thank you.
I will. Yourself. That's what I've been saying. Keep on hating. Thank you. I will.
Yourselves.
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that'll save. I saw some people in the community like begging for that song to make a return.
So I thought today would be a good day because it's a Thursday. Because it's a Thursday.
It's always a good day for that song.
But there's not a lot going on, you know,
and like we're just sort of free today to do what we want.
So I was going to, you know, just pop it in.
But I think you'll actually be shocked
by the breath of these stories.
Not the breath.
The breath.
There's a D in there, right?
The breath. The breath.
The breath.
We need to start pronouncing words as they are spelled.
I'm sick of it.
I mean, I've been out here doing the work, my Stijan,
if anybody wants to join me.
My K'ni is killing me.
I think all this new weight I'm carrying around
has been really tough on my K'ni's.
You mean the Weh-gid-ah-duh?
Oh, right, the Weah-jit-ah.
Like that's how I see it, you know what I mean?
That's how turd sees it.
Okay, how would you pronounce ha ha ha ha?
Like that act of doing ha ha ha?
Ha ha ha ha.
No, no, what am I doing when I ha ha ha?
Oh, like halfing.
I would do la-oo-ga-ha.
Like.
Ha ha ha ha.
That's how I visualized,
because I think it's because I'm a very musical person.
Like I really see songs, like la-oo-ga,
I mean words, la-oo-ga-ha. Because for me, I'm like a very musical person. Like I really see songs like, I mean words.
Lauga-ha.
Because for me, I'm such a reader.
I learn how to pronounce things by reading them.
Right.
So how am I to know?
Unclear.
The way the people are saying it.
You mean, how are you to canal?
Canal.
Like I, like.
It's un-clear.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Honestly, this is my favorite game of all time. I can do it.
So you and Ben, you and Ben would go on a road trip and then every word that you see on a sign, you would say pronounce it the way that it's spelled.
I would say, like, how do you pronounce that?
Let me look for a word in front of me.
Like my bronzer.
I'm reading Pajay 6.
Pajay 6.
Wow. I love that. six. Page six, wow.
Yeah.
I love that.
That's where I get my news.
Okay, this is, it says Hula, believe this bronze.
Like, believe this bronze to me should sound like this.
Belly-eye beef.
Belly-eye-veh, tis bronze.
Like, I just, maybe it's a sign of high intelligence.
Like, I just see things differently.
Do you know what I mean?
I agree. I so see things differently. Do you know what I mean? I agree.
I so agree.
Uncly R.
It's Uncly R, but the breadth of stories today,
there's actually a lot to talk about, okay?
Okay.
Our first story is an L for me, for sure.
An L, like the letter L?
I'm taking an L.
Oh, wow, okay.
And it's kind of a W for you.
Someone that I think I've been wrong about,
that I champion, that you have said is not bueno.
Is the worst?
Country singer Sam Hunt has been arrested for speeding
and violating an interlock device five years after his DUI.
I don't even wanna be right about this.
Like who cares about this actual irrelevant person?
Yeah, who cares about him?
I don't even think that I-
Who likes his music?
I've actually made peace with Sam Hunt. Like I don't even hate him so much.
So at this point, it's just like, dude,
get your fucking life together.
What are you doing?
Get a driver.
Yeah, right.
Get a friend.
A driver.
Country singer Sam Hunt was arrested
after speeding on a Tennessee highway
and violating the terms of his past DUI.
According to TMZ, the musician was pulled over
on January 20th in Hendersonville,
about 22 miles north of Nashville,
on charges of speeding and violating an interlock device,
best known as a car breathalyzer.
He was taken to jail,
but released the same day on $1,500 bond.
Well, so his crime here was speeding,
which is obviously not a crime,
but if you have like a specific parole agreement,
I guess, like you can't be speeding.
So it's not like he's out here, you know,
drinking and driving again, to be clear.
It's a little bit misleading.
So I'll make space for, not me being like so lenient
with Sam Hunt today.
I think it's cause I made you listen to that song.
His new music has been really good.
It's like, I don't know how he finds the time
to make new music while he's also just like
constantly getting arrested.
It's true.
And he should get a driver so he could sit in the back
and like make new music.
But do you feel like,
like some men would find it emasculating
to be driven around?
1000% that's yes, I do.
And maybe that's why like more male celebrities
don't just like get a driver because-
Especially like in the South where like your truck
is sort of like your manhood.
Like, yeah.
I could see Sam Hunt being like,
that's gay to have a driver, you know?
I saw such a funny video recently that was,
and it's hard to apply to myself because exactly,
like driving in my family is just such a thing
in my like little family.
In your, you know, just you.
No, but like with Zach, because the video was like,
if you're a man, like why is your wife ever driving you guys?
Like what are you doing just like sitting
in the passenger seat, like,
like you should always be driving.
Like you should always be driving when you're the man.
However, I just want to say in my situation,
usually I always want to actually drive,
but sometimes I want to drive to get the practice in
if he's going to be with me.
So like he's actually being a driving instructor.
He's not just passively sitting there.
I have not driven my own car like with Ben in the car.
I mean, I've driven my own car seriously twice
in the last five years.
And it was only like when Ben wasn't available
to drive me somewhere.
If I, you know, I should like actually do a prank.
Like we just go to the garage to pick up the car
and I get in the driver's seat.
You should.
He would be like, and one of the things that I'm actually,
Ben and I are having an issue with,
is he does this thing where at a red light,
he pulls out his phone, which like, it's not a crime,
but it's so annoying because I'm sitting there being like,
I let the light stand like for four minutes,
I'm like, the light's been green for four minutes,
fucking go.
It's such a point of contention with us.
And I'm like, why can you just not be on your phone?
Claudia, it's such a point of contention for me too.
My husband always like picking up the phone.
When you're in the driver's seat,
like you don't look at your phone.
And the issue is, is that even when I'm in the passenger seat,
I don't look at my phone because of motion sickness.
And it's a shame that he has to drive
because when he's in the passenger seat,
he could just be on his phone the whole time being happy.
I would drive, not look at my phone and I would be happy.
But again, like why would he be in the passenger seat?
Just passively, passengering.
Ben hates your Tesla.
And the only positive thing he'll say about it
is that it gives you like that little ding
when the light turns, as soon as the light turns green.
So if you are being like a bad driver on your phone,
it does sort of give you like a kick in the ass,
which I agree that is a great feature.
It's a great feature.
As soon as you don't have to be paying attention,
because I'm not even on my phone.
I sometimes just zone out at a long ride.
Right, putting on music.
Dings when it's green, you don't get beeped, it's parched.
So maybe Sam Hunt should look into maybe
getting a different kind of car.
Also, I imagine if you have like really strict parole
where you can't go over a certain speed limit,
like there's a setting you can put your car on
to just like literally not go fast.
I would be afraid of going to jail again.
The thing is, and what's clear here is that Sam Hunt
doesn't give a fuck.
Doesn't care.
Yeah, yeah, that should be the name of his next album.
I'm Sam Hunt and I don't give a rip.
Yeah.
Memoir, Sam Hunt doesn't give a fuck.
Memoirs of a huntress.
Memoirs of a Sammy.
And also, not to bring her into this,
but like where is his wife?
I feel like I never hear about her.
They were like rumored to be getting divorced,
but they didn't, did they?
Then they got back together
and I think they split up again.
Oh, okay.
I do think.
There's no woman in his life
and that's why he's sort of on this downward spiral.
And he's speeding to where is he even going?
Right.
Nowhere.
He's got a one-way ticket to Loserville.
I think they are still marrying.
Population, Sam Hunt.
I know, but like Sam, turn it around,
but don't speed when you turn it around.
Just like, and turn around
and like driving the right side of the street.
Let me ask you a question.
Be totally honest.
We're rooting for you, Sam.
Speak for yourself, but be totally honest.
Do you think it's like too late for Sam Hunt?
In terms of like so many things. I feel like his career like really had so much potential.
There was a time where like,
even if you didn't like country music, you knew Sam Hunt.
He was so on his way to being like a Morgan Wallen.
And then he flopped off the planet.
He got his DUI.
He had a lot of like rumors about just like personal issues.
Then his music just also like took a hit.
He's been like trying to rebuild,
but then he gets arrested again.
Like, do you think it's over for Sam Hunt?
So that would depend on a bunch of factors
that I have no insight into.
Like what does the industry think of him?
What do his, the fellow country music world think of him?
What does radio think of him?
The big wigs, is he nice to work with?
I think if he, in earnest, wanted to come back
and people really liked him, they would support him.
They would have him as an opener.
They would give that to him.
But if he's pissed everyone off along the way
and he's really out here on his own,
and I just wanna say getting arrested or a DUI,
never stop Morgan Wallen.
So something else is blocking,
and being an alleged alcoholic, never stop Morgan Wallen.
So something else is blocking-
Because it never stopped Morgan Wallen
from showing up for work.
Like, he still releases music. Something else is blocking- Because it never stopped Morgan Wallen from like showing up for work. Like still release music.
Something else is blocking Sam's self.
Yeah, yeah.
There's kind of a blockage in Sam Hunt.
And I feel like in a couple music genres,
if not all of the music industry,
like being, you know, breaking the law, getting arrested.
It's a rock star, for a man, it's so not a big deal.
It's so not a big deal.
Yeah.
So I think there's something else.
Yeah, I do think like, because Sam Hunt is a man,
like he, if he really wanted to,
and it seems like he doesn't,
but he could make a comeback.
Yeah, it seems like he doesn't.
He does still make music,
because I think he loves music and he puts it out,
but he doesn't really care about like,
promoting it.
And yeah, and we're gonna go tour
and we're gonna go on this radio show
and we're gonna do the toast.
Like he doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, and that's probably why he's on this radio show and we're gonna do the toast. He doesn't give a fuck.
Yeah, and that's probably why he's flopping
because he hasn't been on the toast.
My chair is big enough for the both of us.
Sam Hunt, if you ever want to come on the toast.
It's very, very provocative of you.
No, no, no, no, I didn't mean it in that way.
It was metaphorical.
What if your husband heard you say that?
And I was getting Sam Hunt in our house,
I think he was just shut up.
Okay, cool.
Good to know.
Right?
There are definitely a couple of people like Ben would let me act like really crazy around
just to like entice them.
But I'm not even saying I would be acting crazy.
Yeah, but no, you said you were sitting, you're sharing a chair with him.
That's really crazy.
They're like, it wouldn't be in a crazy way, but thanks for making it weird.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that'll be your new way to let me know
when you wanna move on from a story.
Yeah, like that I'm over a subject.
Oh God, how scary.
I appreciate it in that moment, but please don't abuse it.
Like, every time now.
No, I won't, I won't.
Hey, I started a new book last night.
Ooh, yeah.
I'm thinking of making a beef stew.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now let me ask you a question.
That way I just did it though.
That was a kind of good,
because we were reaching the end of the Sam Hunt combo.
I love that.
I'm just calling it out.
No, I'll be really extremely prudent.
Thank you.
Our next story is actually some breaking influencer news.
Italy's big.
That's actually my favorite type of news.
I don't even think that.
Chiara Ferragni's getting divorced?
No, well that's like already happening.
This is like kind of crazier
cause she hasn't been spotted with Fidesz in a while,
but like there's not been anything like concrete.
Italy's biggest-
But I love finding things out live on air,
like my genuine reaction. Let's hear it.
Italy's biggest influencer, Chiara Ferragni
faces five years in jail as she is charged with fraud
for misleading followers
that sales of her Easter eggs
would fund a children's charity.
So-
Oh, by the way, this got worse and worse
with every word you read of that headline.
Like I thought it was gonna be tax evasion
and I was gonna say queen.
And then I'm like, oh, scamming her followers.
I'm like, oh, well people are dumb.
But now it's like, no, what?
This has been like an ongoing story
that they colloquial call Pandora Gate
because she was selling these like pink Christmas editions
of a Pandora, which is a traditional festive cake
which is a fruitless alternative
to the more famous Panatone.
What the hell is this story?
Basically, this has been an ongoing story
because a while ago she promoted these cakes
like buy these cakes and a portion of it will go
to a children's hospital.
She's selling cakes now?
No, it was like a branded thing.
Okay.
The cake maker, like it was a whole,
she's not making cake, like it was a sponsored post.
Okay, because she's like a fashion influencer, okay.
Yes, it was like, the box is very fancy,
her logo is on it in addition to like the-
Oh, Q Lab.
It would be like, know kinder x chiara
just like my Nespresso cups. I use the chiara ferragni Nespresso cups. Anyways her followers
were told that the cash raise would go to Turin's Regina Margarita Hospital for Children and money
raised was said to be earmarked for a new scanner to help detect types of bone cancer. However,
after a year-long investigation Italy's competition watchdog, AGCM, announced the fine of 1 million euros.
They found that consumers had been duped into thinking
that buying a Ferragni branded Pandora,
they were contributing to the charity and hospital.
They also find-
Yeah, I would have thought that too.
They also find the cake maker, 420,000 euros.
They justified the high nine euros price
by saying the more cakes they sold,
the more the children's clinic would receive.
That's what they said when they were selling the cakes.
I would assume that.
In fact, the inquiry heard that they had agreed
to just 50,000 euros would go to the hospital
regardless of how well the cake sold.
So it wasn't like for every cake sold,
it was like we're making a flat donation,
buy as many cakes as you want.
They added that Kiara made no personal payments
to the hospital while her companies received
1 million euros from Belocco for the branding initiative
and related promotional activities.
In a video published to her page in 2023,
she admitted to a communications error
and apology to her fans.
So that was like the civil peace.
However, now she is being charged
and this might go to trial.
This is like one of those things I imagine in Italy
where like you wanna make an example out of celebrities
who break the law, like, cause this is so extreme.
Like she definitely should be fined.
And honestly, she should more so be like publicly shamed
for like using charity to sell something
that's like really tacky,
but like it's to go to jail for five years.
Yeah, I don't think she'll go to jail for five years.
Milan Public's prosecutor issued her lawyers
with a summons for September 23
with the influencers legal team saying in a statement
that their client has committed no crime.
Okay, this is like such a weird, like not like juicy story
what I thought it was gonna be like.
Yeah, it seems like the meat of the story
has already happened, which was that.
Right.
And that is totally deceptive.
Like saying a portion of sales will go to a charity.
You do expect that it is scaled up or down
depending on sales, not a flat fee.
And then after that, they're pocketing the rest.
So they all paid fines on that.
And now they really wanna make an example of her,
which is surprising
because I feel like she's Italy's darling girl.
They do, like they're so proud of her.
Yeah, I mean, what she's built is amazing. And I do think her and Fidesz are not together anymore Darling girl. They do. Like they're so proud of her. Yeah.
I mean, what she's built is amazing.
And I do think her and Fidesz are not together anymore
cause she never posts him.
And it's been like a really long time now.
And they were-
That's so crazy.
Cause their wedding was like actually a global affair.
Yeah. And they had a show.
Yeah. On Prime.
Or they're like just going through a tough time.
I don't know.
And maybe she has posted, but I follow her
and I never saw anything concrete.
Yeah.
And they have two kids together.
But if they were actually filing for divorce,
we would know.
Right.
Hmm.
So I think she's just going through a hard time.
And perhaps facing jail time at that.
Right.
She should not go to jail for this.
No, no, but like seriously deceptive.
That's like really shady.
And it's just like one of those things
that gives influencers such a bad name.
Yeah.
And you would think at like this sort of level,
it wouldn't happen.
Cause people have teams and things like this.
Everything you do is just like official and fancy.
And you know that people are gonna be inquiring.
Right.
You can't just like not donate to the charity
in the way that you said.
Cause they did donate $50,000.
That's like not a lot of money for somebody at that level,
just to be clear.
No.
Oh my God, when on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,
when somebody asked Erica,
like would you sleep with someone's husband
for a million dollars?
She's like, a million dollars is not a lot of money
these days.
I was like, honestly, that's so funny.
And $50,000 for like someone of Kiara's level,
the way she operates is like literally not a lot of money.
Yeah, and then I wonder if the fines went straight
to the hospital or did the government take that?
I mean, if they're finding the hospital,
like that's just counterintuitive to this whole.
No, no, no, no, no.
Like when they find Chiara and the bread maker,
did they take all that fine money
and give it to the hospital?
Of course not.
It's a government fine.
Of course not.
Yeah. So no one actually cares about them sick kids,
by the way.
Classic. Classic. We're the only ones here like advocating for the children. It course not. Yeah, so no one actually cares about them sick kids, by the way. Classic.
Classic.
We're the only ones here like advocating for the children.
It's true.
Give it to the children.
I believe the children are our future.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yeah.
Something that I feel like we've kind of manifested.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Gretchen Rossi is returning to the Real Housewives
of Orange County for season 19.
I had a similar thought about a conversation
we just recently had about OC kind of crushing the,
not reboot vibe, but like resetting,
but then also dipping into old iconic characters.
Alexis has been on this season,
people have been loving it.
So Gretchen is an American treasure.
She is a classic talent.
And she is somebody who is so desperate
to be on reality TV that she actually like
will make good television with her desperation.
Like I could spell it from here.
It's true.
Nobody wants this to go well more than Gretchen.
And by the way, she had that same energy
the first time around.
Yes. I think, and we've said not only that OC
is doing it well, but like for a lot of these franchises,
I think their future lies in the past.
And when you do get new cast members like Roni,
there's not that desperation.
It's more of a shrewd move.
However, it's just like the OG housewives
who are of all franchises,
who are no longer on the show,
like just still have that desperate energy
to get back on the show.
And that's how you get people
who are willing to do whatever on reality TV again.
Yeah, and that's how you also just really blend
the old Housewives, the peak sort of cultural relevance
with this new era.
And there's old beefs,
Alexis and Gretchen were on together back in the day.
Then there's years worth of things that happened
while they thought they would never be on television again.
So they're acting real.
And therein we have herstory.
And herstory is what's necessary for a good reality show.
1000%, I couldn't have said it better myself.
And I think that this is brilliant
and I don't know if it had anything to do
with the conversation we had on the toast last week.
But I'm glad to see that this trend,
I need to see it in other franchises
because I think OC is doing it really well.
And OC has such a breadth of crazy people to tap into.
Like they really have years,
but New York I mean really does.
Like they have so many people.
I would love to see this.
And I don't know if you saw people are freaking out though,
like the production company that produces
Real Housewives of New York posted on their Instagram,
like a casting call for New York Housewives.
So I don't know if that means that everybody's gone,
but things are definitely gonna be shaken up
because like seriously, it's atrocious.
Also I'll be right back, I need to get a tissue,
but feel free to like make fire points without me.
Sure thing, sure thing.
I would say that's a wrong move. We don't need a casting call.
You need to go into the files and into the history books and pick old cast members who would
pair nicely with new cast members. And I know you're probably thinking of like
Lansona Ramona. I don't think that's right either because I think there would be too much of a gap
between the old and the new, but there were definitely housewives in New York's history
who would pair well with these new younger housewives.
I'm saying that I don't think it should be like
Ramona Sonia vibe for the new Roni,
but they should go into the archives
with some former cast members.
Like who?
Heather, I know they tried that,
but someone of that elk
who's like a bit younger.
Kristen Takeman.
Kristen Takeman, Ashley Madison.
So she could finally sort of rid the stain
on her reputation.
They're still married.
So.
And that's interesting by the way,
I would love to hear about that.
Yeah.
They're definitely cast members.
Anyways, I think they should take that post out.
We don't need new people.
I agree.
There's sort of, Roni's specific,
like we're sort of at this impossible place
where I don't think that they should bring back those women,
but those women like need to be used in something.
Like I actually think that Sonia and Luann show
Simple Life vibes where they went to that
like town in Indiana was so funny.
More things like that.
Even I was watching Ramona's stories last night.
She was at an affair, a gala,
and at the Breakers in Palm Beach.
She got all dressed up and she was like,
oh, she was talking about her girlfriends.
And she was out with her girlfriends.
And she was like, I have such amazing girlfriends.
These are my girlfriends.
This is Amy, this is Jill.
Girlfriends are everything.
And I just love my girlfriends.
It was so funny.
Like, her Instagram is a movie.
It's actually a movie, and somebody needs to bring it
to the mainstream.
Does she live in Palm Beach now, or does she live in New York?
So she bought a condo in Palm Beach.
I don't know, like, where her primary residence is,
and I'm sure she still comes back to the city
to see her daughter, but she's mostly in Florida.
Every time I watch her stories, she's,
or maybe she only stories when she's on vacation,
but she's mostly in Florida. Because time I watch her stories, she's, or maybe she only stories when she's on vacation, but she's mostly in Florida.
Because I think Real Housewives of Palm Beach
is coming down the pipe.
I would love to see Ramona.
I had heard about Real Housewives of Palm Beach
and also I had heard-
We talked about it, like some of the passengers floating.
Yeah, the caliber of women was really-
Of woman.
Of woman, did I say that?
Yeah.
Was really premium.
Yeah, so throw Ramona in there.
Thousand percent.
Anyways, I was also just randomly stalking
Gretchen Rossi the other day, which I never,
I hadn't been on her page-
She sells handbags.
I hadn't been on her page in years.
I didn't know she had two children.
I didn't know for certain if her and Slade
were still together, but she's,
I was watching her feed, she's ready.
She's ready for prime time.
I know two things about Gretchen Rossi
since she left the Real Housewives of Orange County.
She has two babies whose faces she face-tunes into oblivion.
Like it's actually the craziest thing.
And two, she sells her own handbags.
Great.
Roll cameras.
Yeah.
Action.
Action. Action.
Agreed.
I think I need to start watching OC again
because like these are my people.
No, I know.
It's just a lack.
It's not a lack of intrigue.
It's a lack of just time to catch up.
They went through a couple of bad seasons
but they ended up picking up a couple of good people.
Gina and Emily.
I know, you and Gina, I know.
It's Gina, me and Emily. Emily's my queen. Sorry. I'll mean no, I don't mess with Gina
I will maintain that Emily looks like a Gina and that Gina looks like an Emily. Wait, let me think let me think
It's a bad call we when they came on the show we said that you've obviously just like went to the other side and now
Because of the love that you have for Emily
She'll be an Emily to you.
But Emily looks like a Gina
and Gina looks like an Emily, period.
Okay.
Ooh, yeah.
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Our next story is a story that is just like,
I'm living for.
But if she's living.
No, you're gonna freak.
So Jojo, the singer, I just feel like JoJo the singer and actress.
And who else would it be?
Fletcher?
Siwa?
Okay.
Oh, actually great call.
Okay. Thank you.
I've been put in my place efficiently.
JoJo admits that she almost swiped right on her co-star
from 2006's Aquamarine after spotting him on Raya.
I know this is a lot to take in.
The guy who plays Raymond, like the heart throb
who Sarah Paxton is in love with.
I put my iPad away far too quickly.
I think I know him.
Is he like Sandy Hare?
Yes, his name is Jake McDormand.
He played Raymond who is like the end all and be all
of the movie Aquamarine.
Oh wait, this is not who,
oh yes, that's exactly who I was thinking.
Let me say this.
Wait, just listen to the deeps.
Jojo made the admission on an episode of
First We Feast, Truth or Dab, Rapid Fire,
when she was asked about one scene in the film,
which she shot when she was 14.
So, in this scene, Jojo whispers in Emma Roberts' ear
and asked on Truth or Dab what she was whispering,
the actress said,
we were probably just talking about Jake
and how cute he was.
Yes, thank you, Claudia.
So she continued,
and it's so funny because I saw him on Raya.
We were both on there.
And I'm like, do I, do I swipe?
Cause like, you're cute.
But I kept going because that ship has sailed.
That ship has not sailed.
No, the ship is at the dock.
We are ready to board.
You apps, I thought Jojo was married. She's on Ryo.
Did she get divorced? Hold on. She had a really cute husband. Well then I'm at I wrote Jojo
married and you know what comes up? Fletcher. Jordan, they were engaged in 2021.
Dexter Darden. He's no Jake McDormand.
So maybe this is like an old story.
Oh, they broke off their engagement in 2022.
Okay, nevermind.
So she is available and she needs to get together
with Jake McDormand today.
I can't believe that they saw each other on Raya.
I can't believe she didn't swipe, right?
She's so wrong for that.
She is.
It's actually like come across my desk
to perhaps rewatch this movie.
Although I fear, like fear has stopped me from doing it
because I fear it doesn't stand the test of time.
It does, it does.
For some reason I feel like,
I don't remember the last time I watched it,
but it doesn't feel so far off.
Like I remember everything.
And it is such an adorable, good movie.
Okay, that makes it feel so much better.
It's also star-studded.
Yeah, and at the time, like it wasn't a blockbuster hit,
but it has aged really well
in like the conscience of the millennial.
So Emma Roberts is in it.
Of course.
And Sarah Paxton. I know Sarah Paxton.
Who is Emma Roberts?
She's just a friend.
Her and JoJo.
They're the two best friends and one of them and JoJo's moving and then they may get a
mermaid and they can make a wish for the mermaid if they help the mermaid stay as a
human girl but she needs to have true love's kiss.
Duh.
Okay, I definitely like it's not coming like to me at all so I need to rewatch.
If it makes you feel better the fact that you don't know this movie backwards
and forwards is showing your age
in a way that's positive for you.
Slay.
You've never heard of this movie.
Who is JoJo?
The singer?
Yeah, I don't know her.
Yeah.
Must've been before my time.
Yeah.
So anyways, this is just like, get back out there, JoJo.
I hope he sees this and the answer. I was like, oh, I was, I swiped right, like I was waiting for you. Well, that's the like, get back out there, JoJo. I hope he sees this and the answer was like,
oh, I was, I swiped right, like I was waiting for you.
Well, that's the thing, you have to wonder.
Let's go out, I'll whisper compliments in your ear.
You have to wonder like what happened on his end.
Did he also just ignore?
Well, I feel like he probably swiped right
because if he had, it depends on the timing,
but like if he swiped left,
he wouldn't have come up for her, you know?
Unless she saw him first and he hadn't swiped yet. But I think the odds that he swiped left, he wouldn't have come up for her, you know? Unless she saw him first and he hadn't swiped yet.
But I think the odds that he swiped right are pretty high.
I agree.
Even just to like say hello.
Yeah, like good times.
It's kind of rude that she didn't, honestly.
It doesn't have to be romantic.
No, it's rude that she didn't.
Is she crazy?
It's a good point.
And her saying, cause the time has passed,
like no, it has not.
And you thought he was cute.
Like, are you crazy?
Girl, what are you doing?
It's Raymond.
It's a great little love.
Everybody loves Raymond.
Everybody loves Raymond.
It's such a great like throwback,
but we need to make this right.
Ooh, yeah.
Wow, you really don't care about Aquamarine?
No, no, no, by the way, I was just wondering,
like, were we on the same page?
Like that, that, like, I felt like that story
was coming to an end.
Yeah.
Okay, let's not that I didn't enjoy the story,
by the way, I loved it.
Okay.
Our final story, some more throwback news,
actually very interesting.
Who remembers Cher Lloyd?
Who could forget Cher Lloyd is a better question.
I never forgot Cher Lloyd and I did also see this story.
So Cher Lloyd has done an interview
and she is claiming that her record label asked her
to seduce Justin Bieber to launch her career.
So I think we were just talking about Cher Lloyd.
It feels like semi recently, like saying,
where did she go? What happened to her?
I feel like she never made it in America.
She had her album, Sticks and Stones.
Obviously like we would have supported anything
that she did, but like she didn't crack.
Is she?
I want you back, won't you, won't you back?
Yeah, such a good song.
So she claimed that her record label previously asked her
to seduce Justin Bieber in order to launch her career.
She first rose to fame as a contestant a contestant on which show was it?
X Factor UK in 2010 and then released her debut album, Sticks and Stones.
But in an attempt to promote her record, Cher claims she was asked to hit some of
the clubs and find out where Bieber is and leech off of his fame.
Speaking on Paul Brunson's, We Need to Talk podcast, she admitted, I walked into my record label and said,
look, I really need some cash to try and push my record.
Basically, I got told no.
Instead, she was told she needed to hit some of the clubs
and find out where Bieber is
and I should try and go and get with him.
She added, now this is going back years ago.
I was a teenager, but I was very much with my husband
at that same time.
He was even stood in that office while I was told
that they weren't going to spend any money on this album.
That I was to go hook up with someone mega famous
and basically leech off of the back of someone else's fame.
Was I not good enough to invest in
that you would rather use me in that way?
They didn't care.
In fact, she remembers-
How bad are you at your job?
Like that's your advice?
You literally work at a record label.
Right, and like why do some people get money
to promote their albums
than other people who have proven to have like raw talent
and that they have like people, fans already?
Like why wouldn't you support that album?
Also the fact that this was like how Justin Bieber
as like a young kid was being spoken about
like in the industry also gives me a pin.
It gives me a pin for both of them.
I think there's a lot of weirdness
if you like ever want to like really look
into like Justin Bieber's rise to fame
because he was so young and like so
cute and people were just fucking weird about him.
And it was just like, I think like.
Well, because it's a perverse industry that doesn't protect
children and he was the most successful child musician.
So yeah, I'm sure some things happened.
Yeah. Yeah.
And this is just like, well, it's crazy and,
and disgusting for Sharon Lord.
It's also gross for Justin Bieber.
Yeah.
And then it just makes you wonder
how many people used him at that time
to launch their own careers.
Right, right, right, right.
Which is something you probably always suspect,
but now it's like concrete.
Not only might someone have a desire to use you,
but like they're actually being pushed by adults
and business people and people in power to use this child.
This is also just sad because it's not like,
why wouldn't Cher Lloyd have the support?
At the time, if you were there,
if you remember like the X Factor days very much like,
One Direction time, like, first of all, it was a machine.
If you were on that show,
like you were guaranteed UK to be huge.
She had like a couple of songs that were huge hits.
Like why wouldn't she be eligible for like promotional funds?
Yeah. And the potential to have a huge career
because as we said, she's actually talented.
No, she was like a pretty young girl.
Like there was no reason for her to like not be a plant
in the machine.
Well, I feel like the plants are the people
who comply, right?
Yeah. Well, I don't know what the plants are.
Like, I don't know, I've yet to understand
what the point of a plant is.
People that are easy to control, I think,
and who like maybe, like aren't gonna say,
no, I'm gonna marry my high school sweetheart
and we're gonna have an irrelevant relationship
as opposed to being like seen with Justin Bieber
at a nightclub.
Is that it? A musician who appears to be self-made but is supported by a record label, family or wealth. as opposed to being seen with Justin Bieber at a nightclub.
Is that it? A musician who appears to be self-made
but is supported by a record label family or wealth.
Right, and I think that the record label supports
a particular person because they are easy to work with.
Yeah, malleable.
And they do what they want,
and they put out the music that they want,
and they dress how they want,
and they go and do whatever they want,
and instead of working with someone
who is a constant struggle to get to do what you want.
A constant strugle.
Right, right?
Yeah, I think so.
And when you think about the people who we think
would be interested in plans,
like they seem pretty unscrupuled, yeah?
Yeah, I mean, the more I study and cover this industry,
I don't know a single person who has scruples, like for real.
It's true, like the more successful you are,
the less scruples you have probably.
And then that's why the people who actually seem
to be scrupled and successful are such a marvel,
like Gwyneth Paltrow, let's say.
That's a great example.
But the thing with Gwyneth Paltrow that Gwyneth has
that I think others don't is that she's able to be
scrupled because with or without her career,
she always had something to fall back on.
Like family money.
Yeah, as a nepo baby.
So maybe that's not even a fair.
I think nepotism adds like just a little bit of comfort
if you wanna be a scrupled person.
If you wanna walk away from it all and say,
oh, I won't do this.
And maybe they'll fire you from the job,
but you would be okay.
So yeah, maybe that's not a fair comparison.
No, but she's a good example
because she is somebody who's like deeply principled
and who like speaks out for what she believes in,
but is also like enormously successful.
And it's a good example,
except that she never had to wonder like,
do I have to run home to my small town
and go back to that one horse town?
Yeah.
It wasn't, there were multiple horses in her town.
Yeah, on her property. Yeah. It wasn't, there were multiple horses in her town. Yeah, on her property.
Yeah.
That's sad.
It is sad.
And at the end of the day, like-
And it just reminded me of Cher Lloyd,
that like her bops are bops.
And her covers, like when she was on X Factor,
probably even better than her bops,
cause she was performing like popular music.
So amazing.
And at the end of the day, like we,
I actually am mad because we've been denied
the magic of Cherloid.
Yeah, her music was like really poppy, dance, fun, young.
But like what was crazy about her was she has
an amazing voice and then she also rapped.
Yes, yes, yes.
Get you a girl who can do both.
Yes, she was kind of like the British version of Carmen.
But they were multiple people and she was doing it all.
Okay, Carmen was not multiple people.
Like I know it was a husband and wife duo.
Like I know that to be sure.
So one of them can sing and one of them can rap.
I'm not impressed.
No, but the guy was never doing anything.
That's what I'm saying.
She was rapping and singing.
I think maybe he was like doing some of the production.
Piano.
Yeah, okay.
That's not the same.
Sherloy had a piano player too.
Okay. He just wasn't, like, I was not the same. Cher Lloyd had a piano player too. Okay.
He just wasn't, like, I was actually very generous
of Carmen to become a band, like a duo, not just a girl.
And not just be Amy Noonan.
Correct.
Instead, they're Carmen.
So let's get up.
Let's get on it.
Don't you leave me broken hearted tonight.
Come on.
That's right.
Cheerio. That's where she sounds like Cher Lloyd. And tonight. Come on. That's right. Cheerio.
That's where she sounds like Cher Lloyd.
Like cheerio.
And then also, hello.
That's not, I just came to say hello.
Who was that?
I don't know.
That was a cultural shift.
Yeah, but that's not either one of the people
we've been discussing here today.
Okay, but I just need to now put a pin in that.
Kind of a big episode for music.
And for like throwbacks.
And for throwbacks, which we love,
even though we're so young,
we can barely remember like last year.
Martin Solvage and Dragonette.
Right, not.
It's less impressive that it was Martin Solvage.
Not Carmen, yeah, but not Carmen.
Unfortunately for them.
That's our show, wow.
This is gonna be our first show
in like a month that's under an hour.
Should we talk for one more minute?
I can't, if you hadn't kept cutting me off
with your little transitions, we'd be there.
Ooh, yeah.
I actually can no longer see my timer in the new studio,
in the new PNS.
Oh, you gotta move it.
That's kind of a problem.
Yeah, I'm kind of flying blind here.
Oh, that is bad, yeah.
Yeah, so I'll rearrange.
Do we wanna like sit around,
fuck around for a few more minutes or just like?
Anything like you wanna say or announce.
Tomorrow's fried dairy's very exciting.
Let me see if like anything is going on on my phone.
Oh, I actually saw an interesting,
let's do the bonus story that I just was reading
while you were doing the ads,
because Claire Crawley has spoken out about Matt and Rachel.
And when I saw it, I was like,
what could she possibly have to say?
She has what to say.
And it's important to note,
she's like not a thirsty person.
Like she had her season.
I actually think like she regrets it immensely.
And she's like so moved on with her life,
married with a baby.
She's not thirsty.
She does like content,
but she's not someone who's always like
trying to be in Us Weekly.
No, not at all.
She really genuinely wanted to get married
and have a family and that's what she did.
Like she was very authentic about her desires, like respect.
She posted on Instagram stories,
catching up on SoCal news and SMH, some of this stuff.
Remembering-
Oh, she's such a mom.
Remembering that one time I specifically asked producers
to please not allow one specific guy on my season
because I knew for a fact
he was not looking for a serious relationship whatsoever
and I didn't want him to waste anyone's time.
So instead they made him the next bachelor.
Well then that's interesting because Matt James
is the only person in the franchise history
to have become the lead without ever being on the show.
Yeah.
And I guess it wasn't for lack of trying,
but Claire had said no.
Yeah, I think we knew that he was like
gonna be on Claire's season.
And then instead they announced him as the bachelor.
So it was like, well, then he wouldn't be on Claire season
because he has this gig waiting for him.
I didn't realize that it was because Claire did not want him
because she saw something in him, obviously a thirstiness
because he was matching, I mean, Taylor, Tyler's friend.
That whole thing was so crazy.
And then also it was BLM and they were like,
the bachelor was getting dragged to filth.
They had never had a blackmail lead.
And then they had this guy who was like
already affiliated with the franchise.
Kind of.
Because through Tyler and then almost going
to the Clare season, they're like, okay, you're our guy.
Yeah, and then they didn't realize like.
He doesn't want to get engaged.
Well, no, not only that, like they thought they were
like course correcting like 20 years
of never having had a black lead.
And then they ended up with this big scandal.
Right.
So I forgot that like the order of things was Claire
Corale and then Matt James.
I was watching Jeopardy last night and like it was recorded.
So like there was like a minute before
and they were playing commercials
for the new season of the bachelor.
I was like, who is watching this?
I genuinely forgot that it was still on.
I saw that it premiered.
I don't know, I feel like I'm getting to like
an age in my life where like-
Where you can see yourself watching it again.
Where I could see myself watching it again
the way that like older people watch The Bachelor.
Yeah, yeah.
It was big with that-
With that demo of just like older women.
Like I think I'm in my senior age
where I would love to watch these young people fall in love.
That's actually hilarious.
The problem is that like the episodes are really long
and I would want to watch like very passively
and not week to week,
but then this is where this job comes
like, cause it's like, I have to recap it.
It's not a show that can be recapped anymore, I feel.
That's why I stopped watching it,
because they really took advantage of your time.
The way that they had hours and hours of episodes per week
with so many commercials and so much clickbait
and so much cliffhangers, it really became unenjoyable
where I would say 65% of the episode you were watching
was so unsubstantial.
Yeah, but if I could batch episodes, fast forward through dates, I would say 65% of the episode you were watching was so unsubstantial. Yeah, but if I could like batch episodes,
fast forward through dates, I would,
but then like, then I wouldn't be recapping it on the show
and like, seriously, what the fuck am I doing
watching The Bachelor if I'm not recapping it on the show?
And if I'm recapping it on the show,
is literally anyone watching and listening?
No, no.
Right, so that's why I won't be watching The Bachelor.
And that's why I believe we've made it to an hour,
so we're good, check.
I'm glad we discussed that though, Claire Crawley.
Give me two.
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