The Toast - The Breadth of Stories: Thursday, January 30th, 2025

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a day that's gargy. Of course, a day that's pargy, of course. And for me, it's a day that's largey because I'm just getting bigger every day. That's a beautiful thing. What a wonderful update that you've shared with us.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I'm so happy for you. Yes, of course, of course. That's the appropriate reaction. The bigger, the better. Yeah, that's great. Well, if that's the case, like I'm so good. And at least like you're getting bigger and we have bigger chairs, you know?
Starting point is 00:00:33 Cause some of us did two pregnancies in the buccal chairs. That's actually an amazing point. This new renovation couldn't have come at a better time for my big fat ass. And I actually, you know, when I edit the show, like I do compare like the circle, like the square footage that I take up on the chair versus you, it's hard to, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:52 constantly be comparing yourself to others. I really need to stop. Also, like, I know you're gonna kill me. And I just, I'm putting it out there, like I know you're gonna kill me. That cord to your left is just like bothering me. Can you just like flick it, the black one? I feel like it's-
Starting point is 00:01:05 No, no, no, like on the armrest, excuse me, behind you. Can you just flick it off the actual chair? Okay. Thank you so much. I think it's really gonna help with the beautification. It's been flicked. I think it's gonna help with the beautification. Consider it flicked.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Thank you so much. This has just been a really, a week of trials and tribulations. Every day we are trying new things, new lighting, new camera. We are getting really close. I don't wanna jinx it, but I was, you know, in the studio with the department of IT this morning,
Starting point is 00:01:29 just doing a lot. The department of agriculture. Of testing and troubleshooting, if you will. I think we're getting really close to being in a really good place, but I don't want to say that because then, you know, my memory card will like die or something. Right, don't jinx it, yes.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Parginess is increasing every day in every way. I mean, and that's just kind of a reflection, I think, of who we are as individuals. Like always trying to increase our parginess. Every day we wake up, we said, how are we gonna be pargy today? It's true, it's really true. Just like thinking of my own parginess right quick.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It's Thursday, which means it's like a very chill day here at the toast. We're between dear toasters, TV recaps, Queen is in Weenies. It's kind of a day where we can finally relax and be ourselves, you know? Yes, so true. We actually have pretty good stories today. So I'm looking forward to getting into those,
Starting point is 00:02:17 but actually we can't even go on with the show until we talk about what happened last night on the Potomac in DC, like a passenger aircraft and a military helicopter crashed midair. And as of this morning, it's a recovery mission, not a rescue mission. They don't believe there are any survivors. They were able to recover a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:02:38 throughout the night, but now it's officially. Yeah, so it's a rescue mission and it's just, it's so devastating. No, no, recovery. Oh, sorry, recovery. Yeah, okay, I think. Yeah, I get, I don't know. I think recovery.
Starting point is 00:02:54 It's very, very sad and confusing because it seemed to be like a day rigger sort of like flight path and that airspace is shared by the military and commercial airlines all the time. So I don't know what happened, but like it's very unfortunate. No, Brian had like a bunch of stories up, um, like kind of breaking it down and explaining actually in 2013 there was a near miss like in this exact area. So like, this is obviously like a highly trafficked area and that's why we have, you know, all the agencies why we have, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:25 all the agencies that we have too. So I feel like, and everyone's like now saying like, you know, cause if you're afraid of flying, this is obviously gonna like send you into a tailspin, but it really is like the first commercial crash in. Since 2009. Yeah, it's like really not a common thing. So it's just such a weird feeling like a plane crash.
Starting point is 00:03:44 What is this an episode of Lost? Yeah, I just, I hope that they figure out what happened because these seems, there are so many systems in place to make sure these things don't happen. Should be avoidable, yeah. So that's so sad. And I saw a lot of like the passengers, there were a lot of like figure skaters
Starting point is 00:03:58 on their way to a competition. So it was like championship figure skaters. I think like US national championship, like and a coaching couple. And I'm sure we'll learn more about the victims in the next few days, but just so sad, so sad. So sad. Oh my God, I didn't hear that figure skating thing. That's really sad.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah. Well, sending love to everybody who is. Yeah, but that was just like shocking. Affected. To fall asleep to and then wake up to the news. It's just was. Well, I missed it. I went to bed early and then like,
Starting point is 00:04:30 I guess I'm at this part of my pregnancy where I just like wake up in the middle of the night for like fun. Yeah. You just like chill and like think about stuff that you don't wanna do. Yeah. And so that was made from about 137 to 312.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And I was having her and his heartburn. So I got up to get a tum to find that they were empty. And yeah. It's cream cheese gate. Yeah, that was really like. It's giving cream cheese. I almost woke him up and told him to like, go run to a pharmacy.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Like I was so mad, especially because, but I couldn't be mad because like, I definitely finished the tums, but Ben retrieved it for me. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm always in bed being like, can you get me a Tum? Can you get me a Tum?
Starting point is 00:05:08 Can you get me a Tum? So while yes, I consumed it. I wasn't aware that we had reached rock bottom because if we were, I would have gotten a new one. Yeah. And you're saying in your whole apartment, heartburn man doesn't have another pack of Tums. I am sure that in the laundry basket, is a pair of jeans that Ben wore last week with
Starting point is 00:05:28 a rolled up like, you know, the ones that look like pennies. Yeah. Um, and I'm sure there's like a dusty time in there. And you know what? If I knew exactly where it was, I would have taken it and eaten it. That's how bad it was. You should have just woken him up to ask if there are any more times in the house because I feel like there were probably more Tums in the house.
Starting point is 00:05:42 There weren't more times in the house. Like I run inventory on this bitch. No more Tums in the house. No more tums in the house. There weren't more tums in the house. Like I run inventory on this bitch. No more tums in the house. No more tums in the house. Like I run inventory on my house. I know every crevice, every corner, every cabinet. Every tum. There was not another tum.
Starting point is 00:05:54 We had this huge jug. What more do you need? No, I feel like Ben's the type where he knows he has a huge jug at home, but like he'll run out and pick up a spare. You know, if he's on the way to something. If he has a briefcase, there's definitely, or backpack, there's definitely Tums in there, Turtee.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Ben's actually not like a crazy Tum person anymore. Like when we first met, he was like just popping Tums, like how people pop gum. Like I think he thought it was a mint. Like he's moved on, he pops like other things, like a Zyrtec, like an Afrin spray, he loves that. But I almost gave him the keys to the studio because I just got this extra large Costco sized tum
Starting point is 00:06:29 and I was like, go get it, like seriously. But he had a really early flight this morning and I thought that would be like really bitchy of me, but I almost did it. Well, you're so big that you didn't. Big? You're so magnanimous that you didn't. I know, and I just like laid there and suffered.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I really hope this part of pregnancy, like it's not a, I hope it's not here to stay. Like waking up in the middle of the night, being alone with your thoughts, and you know that you shouldn't be on your phone because that'll just make you stay awake longer. Like that is my own personal hell. Yep, and that's when it's time for your Kindle.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yes, my Kindle was actually right next to me on the nightstand in the middle of a book I started last night, but I just like, I don't know, I wasn't feeling compelled to start reading in the middle of the night. Like, what am I, a librarian? I know, but that's a way to take your mind off your thoughts. You're not getting blue light, you're getting Kindle light.
Starting point is 00:07:16 You don't have to turn on the light to read a book and wake your partner, even though I know you would love to. Love. And if your book is shitty, it'll put you to sleep. Pargy. I know, I just like, And if your book is shitty, it'll put you to sleep. Pargy. I know, I just like, my sleep is so important to me. My sleep means a lot to me. And I've gotten to a place, like I know pregnancy
Starting point is 00:07:33 like really sacrifices your sleep, like it fucks with your sleep. And I'm like, every time I reach a hurdle, like I'm working around it. Do you know what I mean? Like I will not be deterred from getting my sleep. And if you say right now, like, just wait till you have a baby,
Starting point is 00:07:45 I'll seriously choke you out. Like we know, we know having a baby is hard. I seriously can't with some of these bitches. I wasn't gonna say that. I was gonna go to thesaurus.com and find another way to say it. Yeah, no, I just, like, I actually can't deal with like bitches these days.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Pause, Claudia. Pause. What's another way to say just wait? A pause. Yeah. Hold tight. I'm saying another language. No, I actually-
Starting point is 00:08:10 Must speak, ad yesh lach yeled. Jackie, that's not even correct Hebrew. Must speak means enough. Must speak, ad yesh lach yeled. Yeah, I just want to say on the record, like I can't with these bitches. That's something. Like I'm allowed to complain. I'm want to say on the record, like I can't with these bitches. Like I'm allowed to complain.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I'm allowed to complain. And everybody's like, oh, well you know, shut up. Like I seriously can't fucking take it anymore. Like it's like, you think this is bad. How about you just shut up? Like, have you tried that? It's not exactly what I was going to say. What I was going to say is once again,
Starting point is 00:08:43 I'm a broken record on this, which is trust the architect, because this is all by design to prepare you for all of that. Imagine you go from sleeping 12 hours a night rock solid to then having a newborn getting up every three hours. This is your body's way of preparing. Trust the process. And what I'll say is take all the sleep
Starting point is 00:09:04 where you can get it. If you're not napping every day, are you napping every day? I feel like you're not, you're answering types at four o'clock. Oh yeah, no, I haven't napped in months. Go back to napping. No, I don't like napping. Like there were parts of my pregnancy where I napped every day, like Pargylicious.
Starting point is 00:09:20 When I was at your house, I was napping every day. But for the last couple of weeks, like I haven't felt inclined to nap, and I just go to bed at a reasonable hour, like 9.30. I don't know, something about napping in the middle of the day, makes the days so long, it's like two days in one. I'm good, the day's long enough.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Okay, that's all I'll say then. And I'm running a successful business, I can't just be tapping out for hours, you know? What would you do? Who would you talk to? It's actually typically the hour where I'm kind of unavailable. So like we could sink.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Right, no, you're unavailable. So like I'm holding down the fort and I'm just gonna be sleeping on the job. I don't think so. It could wait an hour for turties. I'm also not tired. Like that's the other thing. Okay, so I'm gonna just stop like trying
Starting point is 00:10:02 to give you like cheeryery advice and yes, yes Yes, yes solves. I'm no like your resolution like the architect like how about I just can complain and why don't you just like hear me? You know, okay. I thought sorry. I thought we were looking for solutions. I'm so sorry. Oh my god Why would you ever think that everybody knows like there's a problem. We want to solve it. I'm so sorry. Okay, that's so Ben's offer. I am never looking for a solution when I'm complaining. I'm just looking for misery and company. Do you know what I mean? That's the worst. I agree.
Starting point is 00:10:34 How unfair. Oh, forgot to put my wedding ring on today. Rumor is a swirl. Maybe it was the Tums. Maybe it was the lack of Tum. How wrong. There's, thank you. There's not another Tum in the house.
Starting point is 00:10:51 That's what I'm saying. Could never be. Yeah, even with the Tums, you were like doubting me. Are you sure there wasn't one in like another cabinet? Like, why don't you just let me live my truth? Why don't you let me live my truth? Okay, I'm gonna try again. It's been a few months since I attempted to like not.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I need you to get down in the gutter with me, okay? Join me. Okay, so that's different than like not being like contrarian to you. No, not contrarian. Like you're always just like, well. Cause remember that episode where I tried not to disagree. I tried to be agreeable.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Do you remember that? No, obviously you didn't like do a good job. I don't even remember. We have like a clip of it. It's like really funny. No, it's not ringing a bell. Let the good times roll. So today I am not going to problem solve.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Thank you. Like seriously. I can't help it. I'm such a helper. Yeah. That's what everybody says about you. They say Jackie, she's such a helper, always offering a helping hand.
Starting point is 00:11:47 That's what they say. Well she is, they're not like saying the opposite. No, they're just kind of like not talking about you, if I'm being honest, like they. Good, that's why I like it. Oh, when you said there were good stories today, I'm assuming there's like that planted story about Taylor Swift distancing herself from Blake Lively.
Starting point is 00:12:03 To be honest, there is not. However, there is a story that is swappable and I could swap it in if you want. No, no, no, no. I mean, let me just say really quick. To me, it just felt like fake news. Yeah, I'm glad you didn't even give it the credibility of making it a Fast Five story
Starting point is 00:12:17 because when I saw that, people are so annoying. And again, it really harks back to a lack of media literacy in this country. When Taylor Swift wants you to know something, we know she puts it at certain news outlets. Taylor Swift has never fucked with Daily Mail. And I'm sorry, if you even know like the smallest thing about Taylor, you would know that's like so not
Starting point is 00:12:31 how she operates. Like she literally writes songs about people who leave her when she gets like bad press reputation. That's like what the whole thing is about. So to assume that like her best friend who's like kids are her godchildren, she would stop being friends with because she's being sued. Like seriously, like how low do you think of Taylor?
Starting point is 00:12:46 But so not Taylor. So I kind of wanted to get out of the pattern of like making it a story every single day that it ends in a drama. And this felt like not even a full story, just someone's idea of what happened. And maybe it is true. Maybe she is distancing herself.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But I'm just gonna need a little more proof. I will be curious to see if Blake goes to the Super Bowl. She was at almost every game last year and she hasn't been at a lot of games, but I know she also need a little more proof. I will be curious to see if Blake goes to the Super Bowl. She was at almost every game last year and she hasn't been at a lot of games, but I know she also has a lot going on. But like the Super Bowl, who would pass up the Super Bowl? She's not going.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Why? She's just not. Like she hasn't even publicly responded to the Justin Belton claims. We haven't seen her. We haven't heard from her. Like, I don't think she's just gonna pop up at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I don't. Well, if Taylor brings a lot of friends and Blake doesn't go, that would be curious to me. Like I don't think she's just gonna pop up at the Superbowl. I don't. Well, if Taylor brings a lot of friends and Blake doesn't go, that would be curious to me. I also don't think- But I think it would be on Blake, like Blake's choice, not Taylor's. Okay. Well, if she wants to like show that Taylor,
Starting point is 00:13:35 she wants to like, you know, dragons rise up, use one of her dragons, she would go to the Superbowl. So that would just be- So she's gonna show up and she's gonna say, Dracarys. Dracarys, motherfucker. She literally would. So that was just- So she's gonna show up and she's gonna say, Dracarys. Dracarys, motherfucker. She literally would.
Starting point is 00:13:47 So that will be interesting to see. There are like other things that I'm looking for to see what's going on. A source in the Daily Mail could be true, sure. Could also very well not be. So I'm not holding too much- Space. Wait for that, is all I'll say.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Oh my God. And I don't wanna talk about it every single day cause it's really getting confusing. We have a long road ahead of us. Yeah. And I don't wanna talk about it every single day because it's really getting confusing. We have a long road ahead of us. And there's so many different, like we could on the one hand talk about it for so long, all the different theories. And on the other hand,
Starting point is 00:14:14 we could have done that and said absolutely nothing. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, totally separately. I'm on Boz and Dorit Talk. Why do I keep calling her Boz? Boz, Boz and Dorit Talk, because there's like, people are literally like making edits of them
Starting point is 00:14:26 as like best friends. And Dorit posted like literally like a thirst trap of Boz on her Instagram story today. Like they're literally obsessed with each other and somebody said that they're the Ariana and Cynthia of Bravo. And honestly, I felt that. I saw that and that tracks.
Starting point is 00:14:43 That feels right. 1000%. I'm just taking a tum break, excuse me. Wow. So yes. How many times do you think there's too many tums in a day? It says it on the back. Oh.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Just go by that. That applies to the pregnant community? Yeah, don't overdose. If anything, you should take less than the regular. Like just cause. So I think it's like every few hours, right? Two, two to four tablets, as symptoms occur. All right, we're sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Five minutes, symptoms occurring. Dr. Fox says they're a great source of calcium. Yeah, they are. Yeah. Okay, well, cause it is Thursday, we're in like sort of such a relaxed mood. We could get into the Fast Five Stories if you're ready. Is there anything else you wanted to talk about?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Any major life updates in the last 24 hours from you? Major life updates, not particularly, no. Okay. It's just been kind of standard procedure. Okay, I just wanted to ask. That's so sweet of you. Yeah, sometimes I like to talk to others. To ask people how they're doing. No, that feels wrong. It's so funny because you. Yeah, sometimes I like to talk to others. To ask people how they're doing.
Starting point is 00:15:45 No, that feels wrong. It's so funny because when I think about qualities I really dislike in a person, like one of my things is like, if you're talking to somebody in the entire time, like they don't ask you one single question, like it's like them. And like, I also, I feel like a lot of my,
Starting point is 00:16:01 like characteristics that I hate are like projection of like my own self-hatred. Yeah. Because I do like, some of my characteristics that I hate are projection of my own self-hatred. Yeah. Because I do, some of my classic things that I hate, I think that I do them. But I also think it has to do with, what you seek out in a person might not necessarily be, you're not looking for yourself, it's like a magnet.
Starting point is 00:16:17 You need the opposites. Opposites attract. Correct. And you have to have different properties in order to be attractive to me. I think it's more so like I I just hate myself, you know? There's definitely some of that, but I actually don't think that you do whatsoever. I think it's more so like, it's the competitive,
Starting point is 00:16:33 like there can't be two of you. There just can't. There can only be one Turti Lou, is that what you're saying? Yeah, like two of you, it's like a magnet that just opposes one another. You need your match. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Oh, look at you again, being like so positive, solution oriented. You hate yourself. You're the worst. You need to work on self love, Claudia. Nope, sorry. You don't even need to fix it because how much you hate yourself is just right.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Thank you. That's what I've been saying. Keep on hating. Thank you. I will. Yourself. That's what I've been saying. Keep on hating. Thank you. I will. Yourselves. Now, I think. I think without further ado-da-doo-da-doo,
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Starting point is 00:20:26 slash T O A S T and use code the toast for 20% off your order. Thank you the turd. What can I say except yet welcome for all the codes and all the links that'll save. I saw some people in the community like begging for that song to make a return. So I thought today would be a good day because it's a Thursday. Because it's a Thursday. It's always a good day for that song. But there's not a lot going on, you know, and like we're just sort of free today to do what we want. So I was going to, you know, just pop it in.
Starting point is 00:20:52 But I think you'll actually be shocked by the breath of these stories. Not the breath. The breath. There's a D in there, right? The breath. The breath. The breath. We need to start pronouncing words as they are spelled.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I'm sick of it. I mean, I've been out here doing the work, my Stijan, if anybody wants to join me. My K'ni is killing me. I think all this new weight I'm carrying around has been really tough on my K'ni's. You mean the Weh-gid-ah-duh? Oh, right, the Weah-jit-ah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Like that's how I see it, you know what I mean? That's how turd sees it. Okay, how would you pronounce ha ha ha ha? Like that act of doing ha ha ha? Ha ha ha ha. No, no, what am I doing when I ha ha ha? Oh, like halfing. I would do la-oo-ga-ha.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Like. Ha ha ha ha. That's how I visualized, because I think it's because I'm a very musical person. Like I really see songs, like la-oo-ga, I mean words, la-oo-ga-ha. Because for me, I'm like a very musical person. Like I really see songs like, I mean words. Lauga-ha. Because for me, I'm such a reader.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I learn how to pronounce things by reading them. Right. So how am I to know? Unclear. The way the people are saying it. You mean, how are you to canal? Canal. Like I, like.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's un-clear. Ha ha ha ha ha! Honestly, this is my favorite game of all time. I can do it. So you and Ben, you and Ben would go on a road trip and then every word that you see on a sign, you would say pronounce it the way that it's spelled. I would say, like, how do you pronounce that? Let me look for a word in front of me. Like my bronzer. I'm reading Pajay 6.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Pajay 6. Wow. I love that. six. Page six, wow. Yeah. I love that. That's where I get my news. Okay, this is, it says Hula, believe this bronze. Like, believe this bronze to me should sound like this. Belly-eye beef.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Belly-eye-veh, tis bronze. Like, I just, maybe it's a sign of high intelligence. Like, I just see things differently. Do you know what I mean? I agree. I so see things differently. Do you know what I mean? I agree. I so agree. Uncly R. It's Uncly R, but the breadth of stories today,
Starting point is 00:22:51 there's actually a lot to talk about, okay? Okay. Our first story is an L for me, for sure. An L, like the letter L? I'm taking an L. Oh, wow, okay. And it's kind of a W for you. Someone that I think I've been wrong about,
Starting point is 00:23:03 that I champion, that you have said is not bueno. Is the worst? Country singer Sam Hunt has been arrested for speeding and violating an interlock device five years after his DUI. I don't even wanna be right about this. Like who cares about this actual irrelevant person? Yeah, who cares about him? I don't even think that I-
Starting point is 00:23:21 Who likes his music? I've actually made peace with Sam Hunt. Like I don't even hate him so much. So at this point, it's just like, dude, get your fucking life together. What are you doing? Get a driver. Yeah, right. Get a friend.
Starting point is 00:23:35 A driver. Country singer Sam Hunt was arrested after speeding on a Tennessee highway and violating the terms of his past DUI. According to TMZ, the musician was pulled over on January 20th in Hendersonville, about 22 miles north of Nashville, on charges of speeding and violating an interlock device,
Starting point is 00:23:49 best known as a car breathalyzer. He was taken to jail, but released the same day on $1,500 bond. Well, so his crime here was speeding, which is obviously not a crime, but if you have like a specific parole agreement, I guess, like you can't be speeding. So it's not like he's out here, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:04 drinking and driving again, to be clear. It's a little bit misleading. So I'll make space for, not me being like so lenient with Sam Hunt today. I think it's cause I made you listen to that song. His new music has been really good. It's like, I don't know how he finds the time to make new music while he's also just like
Starting point is 00:24:19 constantly getting arrested. It's true. And he should get a driver so he could sit in the back and like make new music. But do you feel like, like some men would find it emasculating to be driven around? 1000% that's yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And maybe that's why like more male celebrities don't just like get a driver because- Especially like in the South where like your truck is sort of like your manhood. Like, yeah. I could see Sam Hunt being like, that's gay to have a driver, you know? I saw such a funny video recently that was,
Starting point is 00:24:50 and it's hard to apply to myself because exactly, like driving in my family is just such a thing in my like little family. In your, you know, just you. No, but like with Zach, because the video was like, if you're a man, like why is your wife ever driving you guys? Like what are you doing just like sitting in the passenger seat, like,
Starting point is 00:25:08 like you should always be driving. Like you should always be driving when you're the man. However, I just want to say in my situation, usually I always want to actually drive, but sometimes I want to drive to get the practice in if he's going to be with me. So like he's actually being a driving instructor. He's not just passively sitting there.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I have not driven my own car like with Ben in the car. I mean, I've driven my own car seriously twice in the last five years. And it was only like when Ben wasn't available to drive me somewhere. If I, you know, I should like actually do a prank. Like we just go to the garage to pick up the car and I get in the driver's seat.
Starting point is 00:25:40 You should. He would be like, and one of the things that I'm actually, Ben and I are having an issue with, is he does this thing where at a red light, he pulls out his phone, which like, it's not a crime, but it's so annoying because I'm sitting there being like, I let the light stand like for four minutes, I'm like, the light's been green for four minutes,
Starting point is 00:25:58 fucking go. It's such a point of contention with us. And I'm like, why can you just not be on your phone? Claudia, it's such a point of contention for me too. My husband always like picking up the phone. When you're in the driver's seat, like you don't look at your phone. And the issue is, is that even when I'm in the passenger seat,
Starting point is 00:26:13 I don't look at my phone because of motion sickness. And it's a shame that he has to drive because when he's in the passenger seat, he could just be on his phone the whole time being happy. I would drive, not look at my phone and I would be happy. But again, like why would he be in the passenger seat? Just passively, passengering. Ben hates your Tesla.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And the only positive thing he'll say about it is that it gives you like that little ding when the light turns, as soon as the light turns green. So if you are being like a bad driver on your phone, it does sort of give you like a kick in the ass, which I agree that is a great feature. It's a great feature. As soon as you don't have to be paying attention,
Starting point is 00:26:44 because I'm not even on my phone. I sometimes just zone out at a long ride. Right, putting on music. Dings when it's green, you don't get beeped, it's parched. So maybe Sam Hunt should look into maybe getting a different kind of car. Also, I imagine if you have like really strict parole where you can't go over a certain speed limit,
Starting point is 00:26:58 like there's a setting you can put your car on to just like literally not go fast. I would be afraid of going to jail again. The thing is, and what's clear here is that Sam Hunt doesn't give a fuck. Doesn't care. Yeah, yeah, that should be the name of his next album. I'm Sam Hunt and I don't give a rip.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah. Memoir, Sam Hunt doesn't give a fuck. Memoirs of a huntress. Memoirs of a Sammy. And also, not to bring her into this, but like where is his wife? I feel like I never hear about her. They were like rumored to be getting divorced,
Starting point is 00:27:26 but they didn't, did they? Then they got back together and I think they split up again. Oh, okay. I do think. There's no woman in his life and that's why he's sort of on this downward spiral. And he's speeding to where is he even going?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Right. Nowhere. He's got a one-way ticket to Loserville. I think they are still marrying. Population, Sam Hunt. I know, but like Sam, turn it around, but don't speed when you turn it around. Just like, and turn around
Starting point is 00:27:53 and like driving the right side of the street. Let me ask you a question. Be totally honest. We're rooting for you, Sam. Speak for yourself, but be totally honest. Do you think it's like too late for Sam Hunt? In terms of like so many things. I feel like his career like really had so much potential. There was a time where like,
Starting point is 00:28:10 even if you didn't like country music, you knew Sam Hunt. He was so on his way to being like a Morgan Wallen. And then he flopped off the planet. He got his DUI. He had a lot of like rumors about just like personal issues. Then his music just also like took a hit. He's been like trying to rebuild, but then he gets arrested again.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Like, do you think it's over for Sam Hunt? So that would depend on a bunch of factors that I have no insight into. Like what does the industry think of him? What do his, the fellow country music world think of him? What does radio think of him? The big wigs, is he nice to work with? I think if he, in earnest, wanted to come back
Starting point is 00:28:45 and people really liked him, they would support him. They would have him as an opener. They would give that to him. But if he's pissed everyone off along the way and he's really out here on his own, and I just wanna say getting arrested or a DUI, never stop Morgan Wallen. So something else is blocking,
Starting point is 00:28:57 and being an alleged alcoholic, never stop Morgan Wallen. So something else is blocking- Because it never stopped Morgan Wallen from showing up for work. Like, he still releases music. Something else is blocking- Because it never stopped Morgan Wallen from like showing up for work. Like still release music. Something else is blocking Sam's self. Yeah, yeah. There's kind of a blockage in Sam Hunt.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And I feel like in a couple music genres, if not all of the music industry, like being, you know, breaking the law, getting arrested. It's a rock star, for a man, it's so not a big deal. It's so not a big deal. Yeah. So I think there's something else. Yeah, I do think like, because Sam Hunt is a man,
Starting point is 00:29:28 like he, if he really wanted to, and it seems like he doesn't, but he could make a comeback. Yeah, it seems like he doesn't. He does still make music, because I think he loves music and he puts it out, but he doesn't really care about like, promoting it.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And yeah, and we're gonna go tour and we're gonna go on this radio show and we're gonna do the toast. Like he doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, and that's probably why he's on this radio show and we're gonna do the toast. He doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, and that's probably why he's flopping because he hasn't been on the toast. My chair is big enough for the both of us. Sam Hunt, if you ever want to come on the toast.
Starting point is 00:29:53 It's very, very provocative of you. No, no, no, no, I didn't mean it in that way. It was metaphorical. What if your husband heard you say that? And I was getting Sam Hunt in our house, I think he was just shut up. Okay, cool. Good to know.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Right? There are definitely a couple of people like Ben would let me act like really crazy around just to like entice them. But I'm not even saying I would be acting crazy. Yeah, but no, you said you were sitting, you're sharing a chair with him. That's really crazy. They're like, it wouldn't be in a crazy way, but thanks for making it weird. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Oh, that'll be your new way to let me know when you wanna move on from a story. Yeah, like that I'm over a subject. Oh God, how scary. I appreciate it in that moment, but please don't abuse it. Like, every time now. No, I won't, I won't. Hey, I started a new book last night.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Ooh, yeah. I'm thinking of making a beef stew. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now let me ask you a question. That way I just did it though. That was a kind of good, because we were reaching the end of the Sam Hunt combo. I love that.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I'm just calling it out. No, I'll be really extremely prudent. Thank you. Our next story is actually some breaking influencer news. Italy's big. That's actually my favorite type of news. I don't even think that. Chiara Ferragni's getting divorced?
Starting point is 00:31:06 No, well that's like already happening. This is like kind of crazier cause she hasn't been spotted with Fidesz in a while, but like there's not been anything like concrete. Italy's biggest- But I love finding things out live on air, like my genuine reaction. Let's hear it. Italy's biggest influencer, Chiara Ferragni
Starting point is 00:31:21 faces five years in jail as she is charged with fraud for misleading followers that sales of her Easter eggs would fund a children's charity. So- Oh, by the way, this got worse and worse with every word you read of that headline. Like I thought it was gonna be tax evasion
Starting point is 00:31:35 and I was gonna say queen. And then I'm like, oh, scamming her followers. I'm like, oh, well people are dumb. But now it's like, no, what? This has been like an ongoing story that they colloquial call Pandora Gate because she was selling these like pink Christmas editions of a Pandora, which is a traditional festive cake
Starting point is 00:31:53 which is a fruitless alternative to the more famous Panatone. What the hell is this story? Basically, this has been an ongoing story because a while ago she promoted these cakes like buy these cakes and a portion of it will go to a children's hospital. She's selling cakes now?
Starting point is 00:32:08 No, it was like a branded thing. Okay. The cake maker, like it was a whole, she's not making cake, like it was a sponsored post. Okay, because she's like a fashion influencer, okay. Yes, it was like, the box is very fancy, her logo is on it in addition to like the- Oh, Q Lab.
Starting point is 00:32:22 It would be like, know kinder x chiara just like my Nespresso cups. I use the chiara ferragni Nespresso cups. Anyways her followers were told that the cash raise would go to Turin's Regina Margarita Hospital for Children and money raised was said to be earmarked for a new scanner to help detect types of bone cancer. However, after a year-long investigation Italy's competition watchdog, AGCM, announced the fine of 1 million euros. They found that consumers had been duped into thinking that buying a Ferragni branded Pandora, they were contributing to the charity and hospital.
Starting point is 00:32:53 They also find- Yeah, I would have thought that too. They also find the cake maker, 420,000 euros. They justified the high nine euros price by saying the more cakes they sold, the more the children's clinic would receive. That's what they said when they were selling the cakes. I would assume that.
Starting point is 00:33:07 In fact, the inquiry heard that they had agreed to just 50,000 euros would go to the hospital regardless of how well the cake sold. So it wasn't like for every cake sold, it was like we're making a flat donation, buy as many cakes as you want. They added that Kiara made no personal payments to the hospital while her companies received
Starting point is 00:33:24 1 million euros from Belocco for the branding initiative and related promotional activities. In a video published to her page in 2023, she admitted to a communications error and apology to her fans. So that was like the civil peace. However, now she is being charged and this might go to trial.
Starting point is 00:33:42 This is like one of those things I imagine in Italy where like you wanna make an example out of celebrities who break the law, like, cause this is so extreme. Like she definitely should be fined. And honestly, she should more so be like publicly shamed for like using charity to sell something that's like really tacky, but like it's to go to jail for five years.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah, I don't think she'll go to jail for five years. Milan Public's prosecutor issued her lawyers with a summons for September 23 with the influencers legal team saying in a statement that their client has committed no crime. Okay, this is like such a weird, like not like juicy story what I thought it was gonna be like. Yeah, it seems like the meat of the story
Starting point is 00:34:19 has already happened, which was that. Right. And that is totally deceptive. Like saying a portion of sales will go to a charity. You do expect that it is scaled up or down depending on sales, not a flat fee. And then after that, they're pocketing the rest. So they all paid fines on that.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And now they really wanna make an example of her, which is surprising because I feel like she's Italy's darling girl. They do, like they're so proud of her. Yeah, I mean, what she's built is amazing. And I do think her and Fidesz are not together anymore Darling girl. They do. Like they're so proud of her. Yeah. I mean, what she's built is amazing. And I do think her and Fidesz are not together anymore cause she never posts him.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And it's been like a really long time now. And they were- That's so crazy. Cause their wedding was like actually a global affair. Yeah. And they had a show. Yeah. On Prime. Or they're like just going through a tough time. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And maybe she has posted, but I follow her and I never saw anything concrete. Yeah. And they have two kids together. But if they were actually filing for divorce, we would know. Right. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So I think she's just going through a hard time. And perhaps facing jail time at that. Right. She should not go to jail for this. No, no, but like seriously deceptive. That's like really shady. And it's just like one of those things that gives influencers such a bad name.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yeah. And you would think at like this sort of level, it wouldn't happen. Cause people have teams and things like this. Everything you do is just like official and fancy. And you know that people are gonna be inquiring. Right. You can't just like not donate to the charity
Starting point is 00:35:40 in the way that you said. Cause they did donate $50,000. That's like not a lot of money for somebody at that level, just to be clear. No. Oh my God, when on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, when somebody asked Erica, like would you sleep with someone's husband
Starting point is 00:35:52 for a million dollars? She's like, a million dollars is not a lot of money these days. I was like, honestly, that's so funny. And $50,000 for like someone of Kiara's level, the way she operates is like literally not a lot of money. Yeah, and then I wonder if the fines went straight to the hospital or did the government take that?
Starting point is 00:36:08 I mean, if they're finding the hospital, like that's just counterintuitive to this whole. No, no, no, no, no. Like when they find Chiara and the bread maker, did they take all that fine money and give it to the hospital? Of course not. It's a government fine.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Of course not. Yeah. So no one actually cares about them sick kids, by the way. Classic. Classic. We're the only ones here like advocating for the children. It course not. Yeah, so no one actually cares about them sick kids, by the way. Classic. Classic. We're the only ones here like advocating for the children. It's true. Give it to the children.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I believe the children are our future. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Something that I feel like we've kind of manifested. Correct me if I'm wrong. Gretchen Rossi is returning to the Real Housewives of Orange County for season 19. I had a similar thought about a conversation
Starting point is 00:36:47 we just recently had about OC kind of crushing the, not reboot vibe, but like resetting, but then also dipping into old iconic characters. Alexis has been on this season, people have been loving it. So Gretchen is an American treasure. She is a classic talent. And she is somebody who is so desperate
Starting point is 00:37:10 to be on reality TV that she actually like will make good television with her desperation. Like I could spell it from here. It's true. Nobody wants this to go well more than Gretchen. And by the way, she had that same energy the first time around. Yes. I think, and we've said not only that OC
Starting point is 00:37:27 is doing it well, but like for a lot of these franchises, I think their future lies in the past. And when you do get new cast members like Roni, there's not that desperation. It's more of a shrewd move. However, it's just like the OG housewives who are of all franchises, who are no longer on the show,
Starting point is 00:37:44 like just still have that desperate energy to get back on the show. And that's how you get people who are willing to do whatever on reality TV again. Yeah, and that's how you also just really blend the old Housewives, the peak sort of cultural relevance with this new era. And there's old beefs,
Starting point is 00:38:03 Alexis and Gretchen were on together back in the day. Then there's years worth of things that happened while they thought they would never be on television again. So they're acting real. And therein we have herstory. And herstory is what's necessary for a good reality show. 1000%, I couldn't have said it better myself. And I think that this is brilliant
Starting point is 00:38:25 and I don't know if it had anything to do with the conversation we had on the toast last week. But I'm glad to see that this trend, I need to see it in other franchises because I think OC is doing it really well. And OC has such a breadth of crazy people to tap into. Like they really have years, but New York I mean really does.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Like they have so many people. I would love to see this. And I don't know if you saw people are freaking out though, like the production company that produces Real Housewives of New York posted on their Instagram, like a casting call for New York Housewives. So I don't know if that means that everybody's gone, but things are definitely gonna be shaken up
Starting point is 00:38:57 because like seriously, it's atrocious. Also I'll be right back, I need to get a tissue, but feel free to like make fire points without me. Sure thing, sure thing. I would say that's a wrong move. We don't need a casting call. You need to go into the files and into the history books and pick old cast members who would pair nicely with new cast members. And I know you're probably thinking of like Lansona Ramona. I don't think that's right either because I think there would be too much of a gap
Starting point is 00:39:23 between the old and the new, but there were definitely housewives in New York's history who would pair well with these new younger housewives. I'm saying that I don't think it should be like Ramona Sonia vibe for the new Roni, but they should go into the archives with some former cast members. Like who? Heather, I know they tried that,
Starting point is 00:39:44 but someone of that elk who's like a bit younger. Kristen Takeman. Kristen Takeman, Ashley Madison. So she could finally sort of rid the stain on her reputation. They're still married. So.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And that's interesting by the way, I would love to hear about that. Yeah. They're definitely cast members. Anyways, I think they should take that post out. We don't need new people. I agree. There's sort of, Roni's specific,
Starting point is 00:40:08 like we're sort of at this impossible place where I don't think that they should bring back those women, but those women like need to be used in something. Like I actually think that Sonia and Luann show Simple Life vibes where they went to that like town in Indiana was so funny. More things like that. Even I was watching Ramona's stories last night.
Starting point is 00:40:26 She was at an affair, a gala, and at the Breakers in Palm Beach. She got all dressed up and she was like, oh, she was talking about her girlfriends. And she was out with her girlfriends. And she was like, I have such amazing girlfriends. These are my girlfriends. This is Amy, this is Jill.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Girlfriends are everything. And I just love my girlfriends. It was so funny. Like, her Instagram is a movie. It's actually a movie, and somebody needs to bring it to the mainstream. Does she live in Palm Beach now, or does she live in New York? So she bought a condo in Palm Beach.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I don't know, like, where her primary residence is, and I'm sure she still comes back to the city to see her daughter, but she's mostly in Florida. Every time I watch her stories, she's, or maybe she only stories when she's on vacation, but she's mostly in Florida. Because time I watch her stories, she's, or maybe she only stories when she's on vacation, but she's mostly in Florida. Because I think Real Housewives of Palm Beach is coming down the pipe.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I would love to see Ramona. I had heard about Real Housewives of Palm Beach and also I had heard- We talked about it, like some of the passengers floating. Yeah, the caliber of women was really- Of woman. Of woman, did I say that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Was really premium. Yeah, so throw Ramona in there. Thousand percent. Anyways, I was also just randomly stalking Gretchen Rossi the other day, which I never, I hadn't been on her page- She sells handbags. I hadn't been on her page in years.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I didn't know she had two children. I didn't know for certain if her and Slade were still together, but she's, I was watching her feed, she's ready. She's ready for prime time. I know two things about Gretchen Rossi since she left the Real Housewives of Orange County. She has two babies whose faces she face-tunes into oblivion.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Like it's actually the craziest thing. And two, she sells her own handbags. Great. Roll cameras. Yeah. Action. Action. Action. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I think I need to start watching OC again because like these are my people. No, I know. It's just a lack. It's not a lack of intrigue. It's a lack of just time to catch up. They went through a couple of bad seasons but they ended up picking up a couple of good people.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Gina and Emily. I know, you and Gina, I know. It's Gina, me and Emily. Emily's my queen. Sorry. I'll mean no, I don't mess with Gina I will maintain that Emily looks like a Gina and that Gina looks like an Emily. Wait, let me think let me think It's a bad call we when they came on the show we said that you've obviously just like went to the other side and now Because of the love that you have for Emily She'll be an Emily to you. But Emily looks like a Gina
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Starting point is 00:44:42 So Jojo, the singer, I just feel like JoJo the singer and actress. And who else would it be? Fletcher? Siwa? Okay. Oh, actually great call. Okay. Thank you. I've been put in my place efficiently.
Starting point is 00:44:57 JoJo admits that she almost swiped right on her co-star from 2006's Aquamarine after spotting him on Raya. I know this is a lot to take in. The guy who plays Raymond, like the heart throb who Sarah Paxton is in love with. I put my iPad away far too quickly. I think I know him. Is he like Sandy Hare?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Yes, his name is Jake McDormand. He played Raymond who is like the end all and be all of the movie Aquamarine. Oh wait, this is not who, oh yes, that's exactly who I was thinking. Let me say this. Wait, just listen to the deeps. Jojo made the admission on an episode of
Starting point is 00:45:28 First We Feast, Truth or Dab, Rapid Fire, when she was asked about one scene in the film, which she shot when she was 14. So, in this scene, Jojo whispers in Emma Roberts' ear and asked on Truth or Dab what she was whispering, the actress said, we were probably just talking about Jake and how cute he was.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Yes, thank you, Claudia. So she continued, and it's so funny because I saw him on Raya. We were both on there. And I'm like, do I, do I swipe? Cause like, you're cute. But I kept going because that ship has sailed. That ship has not sailed.
Starting point is 00:45:59 No, the ship is at the dock. We are ready to board. You apps, I thought Jojo was married. She's on Ryo. Did she get divorced? Hold on. She had a really cute husband. Well then I'm at I wrote Jojo married and you know what comes up? Fletcher. Jordan, they were engaged in 2021. Dexter Darden. He's no Jake McDormand. So maybe this is like an old story. Oh, they broke off their engagement in 2022.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Okay, nevermind. So she is available and she needs to get together with Jake McDormand today. I can't believe that they saw each other on Raya. I can't believe she didn't swipe, right? She's so wrong for that. She is. It's actually like come across my desk
Starting point is 00:46:50 to perhaps rewatch this movie. Although I fear, like fear has stopped me from doing it because I fear it doesn't stand the test of time. It does, it does. For some reason I feel like, I don't remember the last time I watched it, but it doesn't feel so far off. Like I remember everything.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And it is such an adorable, good movie. Okay, that makes it feel so much better. It's also star-studded. Yeah, and at the time, like it wasn't a blockbuster hit, but it has aged really well in like the conscience of the millennial. So Emma Roberts is in it. Of course.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And Sarah Paxton. I know Sarah Paxton. Who is Emma Roberts? She's just a friend. Her and JoJo. They're the two best friends and one of them and JoJo's moving and then they may get a mermaid and they can make a wish for the mermaid if they help the mermaid stay as a human girl but she needs to have true love's kiss. Duh.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Okay, I definitely like it's not coming like to me at all so I need to rewatch. If it makes you feel better the fact that you don't know this movie backwards and forwards is showing your age in a way that's positive for you. Slay. You've never heard of this movie. Who is JoJo? The singer?
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah, I don't know her. Yeah. Must've been before my time. Yeah. So anyways, this is just like, get back out there, JoJo. I hope he sees this and the answer. I was like, oh, I was, I swiped right, like I was waiting for you. Well, that's the like, get back out there, JoJo. I hope he sees this and the answer was like, oh, I was, I swiped right, like I was waiting for you. Well, that's the thing, you have to wonder.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Let's go out, I'll whisper compliments in your ear. You have to wonder like what happened on his end. Did he also just ignore? Well, I feel like he probably swiped right because if he had, it depends on the timing, but like if he swiped left, he wouldn't have come up for her, you know? Unless she saw him first and he hadn't swiped yet. But I think the odds that he swiped left, he wouldn't have come up for her, you know? Unless she saw him first and he hadn't swiped yet.
Starting point is 00:48:26 But I think the odds that he swiped right are pretty high. I agree. Even just to like say hello. Yeah, like good times. It's kind of rude that she didn't, honestly. It doesn't have to be romantic. No, it's rude that she didn't. Is she crazy?
Starting point is 00:48:43 It's a good point. And her saying, cause the time has passed, like no, it has not. And you thought he was cute. Like, are you crazy? Girl, what are you doing? It's Raymond. It's a great little love.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Everybody loves Raymond. Everybody loves Raymond. It's such a great like throwback, but we need to make this right. Ooh, yeah. Wow, you really don't care about Aquamarine? No, no, no, by the way, I was just wondering, like, were we on the same page?
Starting point is 00:49:11 Like that, that, like, I felt like that story was coming to an end. Yeah. Okay, let's not that I didn't enjoy the story, by the way, I loved it. Okay. Our final story, some more throwback news, actually very interesting.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Who remembers Cher Lloyd? Who could forget Cher Lloyd is a better question. I never forgot Cher Lloyd and I did also see this story. So Cher Lloyd has done an interview and she is claiming that her record label asked her to seduce Justin Bieber to launch her career. So I think we were just talking about Cher Lloyd. It feels like semi recently, like saying,
Starting point is 00:49:43 where did she go? What happened to her? I feel like she never made it in America. She had her album, Sticks and Stones. Obviously like we would have supported anything that she did, but like she didn't crack. Is she? I want you back, won't you, won't you back? Yeah, such a good song.
Starting point is 00:49:58 So she claimed that her record label previously asked her to seduce Justin Bieber in order to launch her career. She first rose to fame as a contestant a contestant on which show was it? X Factor UK in 2010 and then released her debut album, Sticks and Stones. But in an attempt to promote her record, Cher claims she was asked to hit some of the clubs and find out where Bieber is and leech off of his fame. Speaking on Paul Brunson's, We Need to Talk podcast, she admitted, I walked into my record label and said, look, I really need some cash to try and push my record.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Basically, I got told no. Instead, she was told she needed to hit some of the clubs and find out where Bieber is and I should try and go and get with him. She added, now this is going back years ago. I was a teenager, but I was very much with my husband at that same time. He was even stood in that office while I was told
Starting point is 00:50:43 that they weren't going to spend any money on this album. That I was to go hook up with someone mega famous and basically leech off of the back of someone else's fame. Was I not good enough to invest in that you would rather use me in that way? They didn't care. In fact, she remembers- How bad are you at your job?
Starting point is 00:50:57 Like that's your advice? You literally work at a record label. Right, and like why do some people get money to promote their albums than other people who have proven to have like raw talent and that they have like people, fans already? Like why wouldn't you support that album? Also the fact that this was like how Justin Bieber
Starting point is 00:51:13 as like a young kid was being spoken about like in the industry also gives me a pin. It gives me a pin for both of them. I think there's a lot of weirdness if you like ever want to like really look into like Justin Bieber's rise to fame because he was so young and like so cute and people were just fucking weird about him.
Starting point is 00:51:28 And it was just like, I think like. Well, because it's a perverse industry that doesn't protect children and he was the most successful child musician. So yeah, I'm sure some things happened. Yeah. Yeah. And this is just like, well, it's crazy and, and disgusting for Sharon Lord. It's also gross for Justin Bieber.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah. And then it just makes you wonder how many people used him at that time to launch their own careers. Right, right, right, right. Which is something you probably always suspect, but now it's like concrete. Not only might someone have a desire to use you,
Starting point is 00:51:59 but like they're actually being pushed by adults and business people and people in power to use this child. This is also just sad because it's not like, why wouldn't Cher Lloyd have the support? At the time, if you were there, if you remember like the X Factor days very much like, One Direction time, like, first of all, it was a machine. If you were on that show,
Starting point is 00:52:20 like you were guaranteed UK to be huge. She had like a couple of songs that were huge hits. Like why wouldn't she be eligible for like promotional funds? Yeah. And the potential to have a huge career because as we said, she's actually talented. No, she was like a pretty young girl. Like there was no reason for her to like not be a plant in the machine.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Well, I feel like the plants are the people who comply, right? Yeah. Well, I don't know what the plants are. Like, I don't know, I've yet to understand what the point of a plant is. People that are easy to control, I think, and who like maybe, like aren't gonna say, no, I'm gonna marry my high school sweetheart
Starting point is 00:52:58 and we're gonna have an irrelevant relationship as opposed to being like seen with Justin Bieber at a nightclub. Is that it? A musician who appears to be self-made but is supported by a record label, family or wealth. as opposed to being seen with Justin Bieber at a nightclub. Is that it? A musician who appears to be self-made but is supported by a record label family or wealth. Right, and I think that the record label supports a particular person because they are easy to work with.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah, malleable. And they do what they want, and they put out the music that they want, and they dress how they want, and they go and do whatever they want, and instead of working with someone who is a constant struggle to get to do what you want. A constant strugle.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Right, right? Yeah, I think so. And when you think about the people who we think would be interested in plans, like they seem pretty unscrupuled, yeah? Yeah, I mean, the more I study and cover this industry, I don't know a single person who has scruples, like for real. It's true, like the more successful you are,
Starting point is 00:53:48 the less scruples you have probably. And then that's why the people who actually seem to be scrupled and successful are such a marvel, like Gwyneth Paltrow, let's say. That's a great example. But the thing with Gwyneth Paltrow that Gwyneth has that I think others don't is that she's able to be scrupled because with or without her career,
Starting point is 00:54:07 she always had something to fall back on. Like family money. Yeah, as a nepo baby. So maybe that's not even a fair. I think nepotism adds like just a little bit of comfort if you wanna be a scrupled person. If you wanna walk away from it all and say, oh, I won't do this.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And maybe they'll fire you from the job, but you would be okay. So yeah, maybe that's not a fair comparison. No, but she's a good example because she is somebody who's like deeply principled and who like speaks out for what she believes in, but is also like enormously successful. And it's a good example,
Starting point is 00:54:32 except that she never had to wonder like, do I have to run home to my small town and go back to that one horse town? Yeah. It wasn't, there were multiple horses in her town. Yeah, on her property. Yeah. It wasn't, there were multiple horses in her town. Yeah, on her property. Yeah. That's sad.
Starting point is 00:54:51 It is sad. And at the end of the day, like- And it just reminded me of Cher Lloyd, that like her bops are bops. And her covers, like when she was on X Factor, probably even better than her bops, cause she was performing like popular music. So amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And at the end of the day, like we, I actually am mad because we've been denied the magic of Cherloid. Yeah, her music was like really poppy, dance, fun, young. But like what was crazy about her was she has an amazing voice and then she also rapped. Yes, yes, yes. Get you a girl who can do both.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Yes, she was kind of like the British version of Carmen. But they were multiple people and she was doing it all. Okay, Carmen was not multiple people. Like I know it was a husband and wife duo. Like I know that to be sure. So one of them can sing and one of them can rap. I'm not impressed. No, but the guy was never doing anything.
Starting point is 00:55:35 That's what I'm saying. She was rapping and singing. I think maybe he was like doing some of the production. Piano. Yeah, okay. That's not the same. Sherloy had a piano player too. Okay. He just wasn't, like, I was not the same. Cher Lloyd had a piano player too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He just wasn't, like, I was actually very generous of Carmen to become a band, like a duo, not just a girl. And not just be Amy Noonan. Correct. Instead, they're Carmen. So let's get up. Let's get on it. Don't you leave me broken hearted tonight.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Come on. That's right. Cheerio. That's where she sounds like Cher Lloyd. And tonight. Come on. That's right. Cheerio. That's where she sounds like Cher Lloyd. Like cheerio. And then also, hello. That's not, I just came to say hello. Who was that?
Starting point is 00:56:13 I don't know. That was a cultural shift. Yeah, but that's not either one of the people we've been discussing here today. Okay, but I just need to now put a pin in that. Kind of a big episode for music. And for like throwbacks. And for throwbacks, which we love,
Starting point is 00:56:27 even though we're so young, we can barely remember like last year. Martin Solvage and Dragonette. Right, not. It's less impressive that it was Martin Solvage. Not Carmen, yeah, but not Carmen. Unfortunately for them. That's our show, wow.
Starting point is 00:56:41 This is gonna be our first show in like a month that's under an hour. Should we talk for one more minute? I can't, if you hadn't kept cutting me off with your little transitions, we'd be there. Ooh, yeah. I actually can no longer see my timer in the new studio, in the new PNS.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Oh, you gotta move it. That's kind of a problem. Yeah, I'm kind of flying blind here. Oh, that is bad, yeah. Yeah, so I'll rearrange. Do we wanna like sit around, fuck around for a few more minutes or just like? Anything like you wanna say or announce.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Tomorrow's fried dairy's very exciting. Let me see if like anything is going on on my phone. Oh, I actually saw an interesting, let's do the bonus story that I just was reading while you were doing the ads, because Claire Crawley has spoken out about Matt and Rachel. And when I saw it, I was like, what could she possibly have to say?
Starting point is 00:57:28 She has what to say. And it's important to note, she's like not a thirsty person. Like she had her season. I actually think like she regrets it immensely. And she's like so moved on with her life, married with a baby. She's not thirsty.
Starting point is 00:57:38 She does like content, but she's not someone who's always like trying to be in Us Weekly. No, not at all. She really genuinely wanted to get married and have a family and that's what she did. Like she was very authentic about her desires, like respect. She posted on Instagram stories,
Starting point is 00:57:52 catching up on SoCal news and SMH, some of this stuff. Remembering- Oh, she's such a mom. Remembering that one time I specifically asked producers to please not allow one specific guy on my season because I knew for a fact he was not looking for a serious relationship whatsoever and I didn't want him to waste anyone's time.
Starting point is 00:58:10 So instead they made him the next bachelor. Well then that's interesting because Matt James is the only person in the franchise history to have become the lead without ever being on the show. Yeah. And I guess it wasn't for lack of trying, but Claire had said no. Yeah, I think we knew that he was like
Starting point is 00:58:26 gonna be on Claire's season. And then instead they announced him as the bachelor. So it was like, well, then he wouldn't be on Claire season because he has this gig waiting for him. I didn't realize that it was because Claire did not want him because she saw something in him, obviously a thirstiness because he was matching, I mean, Taylor, Tyler's friend. That whole thing was so crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And then also it was BLM and they were like, the bachelor was getting dragged to filth. They had never had a blackmail lead. And then they had this guy who was like already affiliated with the franchise. Kind of. Because through Tyler and then almost going to the Clare season, they're like, okay, you're our guy.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Yeah, and then they didn't realize like. He doesn't want to get engaged. Well, no, not only that, like they thought they were like course correcting like 20 years of never having had a black lead. And then they ended up with this big scandal. Right. So I forgot that like the order of things was Claire
Starting point is 00:59:17 Corale and then Matt James. I was watching Jeopardy last night and like it was recorded. So like there was like a minute before and they were playing commercials for the new season of the bachelor. I was like, who is watching this? I genuinely forgot that it was still on. I saw that it premiered.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I don't know, I feel like I'm getting to like an age in my life where like- Where you can see yourself watching it again. Where I could see myself watching it again the way that like older people watch The Bachelor. Yeah, yeah. It was big with that- With that demo of just like older women.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Like I think I'm in my senior age where I would love to watch these young people fall in love. That's actually hilarious. The problem is that like the episodes are really long and I would want to watch like very passively and not week to week, but then this is where this job comes like, cause it's like, I have to recap it.
Starting point is 01:00:02 It's not a show that can be recapped anymore, I feel. That's why I stopped watching it, because they really took advantage of your time. The way that they had hours and hours of episodes per week with so many commercials and so much clickbait and so much cliffhangers, it really became unenjoyable where I would say 65% of the episode you were watching was so unsubstantial.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah, but if I could batch episodes, fast forward through dates, I would say 65% of the episode you were watching was so unsubstantial. Yeah, but if I could like batch episodes, fast forward through dates, I would, but then like, then I wouldn't be recapping it on the show and like, seriously, what the fuck am I doing watching The Bachelor if I'm not recapping it on the show? And if I'm recapping it on the show, is literally anyone watching and listening? No, no.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Right, so that's why I won't be watching The Bachelor. And that's why I believe we've made it to an hour, so we're good, check. I'm glad we discussed that though, Claire Crawley. Give me two. That's how I show you guys. Thank you so much for listening to The Josephine Line. I'm running sure we deliver the fastest stories
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