The Toast - The Crazy Beautiful Life of a Royal Thirst Monster: Thursday, October 27th, 2022

Episode Date: October 27, 2022

Prince Harry's 'Spare' memoir cover revealed, release date confirmed (Page Six) (14:47) Taylor Swift cuts controversial 'fat' scene from music video after backlash (Page Six) (23:06) ‘The Great British Baking Show' Judge Prue Leith Addresses Backlash After Mexican Week (PEOPLE) (31:06) Ariana Grande transforms into 'Wicked' witch Glinda with new blond hair (Page Six) (39:33) Charli D'Amelio Drops Debut Song 'If You Ask Me To': 'So Excited for the World to Finally Hear It' (PEOPLE) (43:13) Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Recap (48:53) The Toast with Jackie  (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  NLOG Tickets Merch The Toast Patreon Girl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And then they stumbled upon you and we're like wow our Gen Z leader our big sister. That's what they're calling me. They're calling me Gen Z's strict older sister. The comments yesterday poured in. I again was shocked by how many Gen Z listeners we have and that they really love your girl and they. They like me. They like me. They really like me. They really like me and the reasons that they were citing like I really felt seen. They were like we love how much you're passionate about things. How much thought you put into your thoughts and that you're like our strict older sister and Gen Z colon. There's hope yet. I told you Gen Z might save us all.

They might save us all. So that was really hopeful to see yesterday. It was an eye opening day. And I feel like we need to add them to our opening intro. Good morning, millennials and Gen Z. No, there's so many of them. There's not that overlooked. There's thousands.

No, we can't change our intro because I think enough has changed here at The Toast. We need to stay the same for a while. Oh, wow. You know me. I'm like a change-averse girly. Yeah, okay. Too many changes. We're going to stay in this position for a while.

Okay. That's fine because you came on this change-filled journey, so I won't push you too far. You know, and it's like outside my comfort zone. Like rebrand, new name. I hate change. But it's going well so far, yeah? I would say so. well so far yeah I would say so I would say so we've got a great show we do we have some interesting stories today

Beverly Hills recap you're still watching love is blind oh my god did you see my Instagram stories yeah something crazy happened did you watch them on with volume I did but then I started to be worried about a spoiler no it's not a spoiler there's this girl Nancy I won't say who say who she's engaged to, but I just got to the part where they're out of the pods and they're on their honeymoon phase, which is where it gets really awkward. People spending the night together for the first time. Living together. So Nancy and the man that she ends up with are in the bathtub in bathing suits being cute and he's trying to be sexy.

And I think at one point she farted because a bubble popped up and she was like, oh. But it could have been just like the drain or whatever like she was talking about the drain before then like they're being sexy he's like leaning in and she's like have you ever like clogged a toilet like with your poop and he was like she said yeah he was like yeah she's like and like what did you do about it like have you ever clogged a toilet where there's no plunger and he's like i don't know she's like oh I don't know. She's like, oh, because I did one time and like there was a really big poo

and like, I think she called it a dookie with like a wad of toilet paper. So like I took the toilet brush and like I broke up the poop until it went in the hole and it was just like so funny. And he left, yeah. And then they like had sex. And I'm not one of these girls who's like girls don't

poop but like you know when you're courting someone you know you're engaged you're like having sex for the first time like I do feel like it's you know becoming of you a man or a woman to just act right and she was acting wrong she was acting wrong it was really it was jarring me and Ben like we're physically like not okay we were like cringing that's horrendous they will not last of course not he is going to leave her but also like some spoilers I read was that like he's problematic too okay well until you tell me something equally jarring he will be leaving her it it was really like it takes a lot to shock me like when it comes to reality tv because I feel like so many things are so contrived and like things that are

like shocking, aren't actually shocking. And it's just like click baity. This was a moment that really stopped me in my tracks. Like I cultural shift. It was a cultural shift. You know what it was? A cultural shit.

I think it's a cultural shift to say that like we've gone too far. Things are too far. We know too much. Yeah. It was such a weird sequence of events like I can't even like put to words how confused I was feeling I feel sick it was a sickening moment like a moment that would make one sick so I'm actually really enjoying love is blind and I do think I might end up finishing it just because like whenever I get into bed yeah no I'm not invested but whenever I get into bed it's like I'm not

watching anything else I'm all caught up But whenever I get into bed, it's like I'm not watching anything else. I'm all caught up on everything. And there are some couples that I love, like the Israeli girl I love. And then there's another couple. I won't spoil anything. But the girl who dances and the guy who works in, okay, you guys know who I'm talking about.

Like I really like them. Okay, great. I think they might have it built to last because they kind of look like siblings. And I feel like couples who look alike, couples who are like them. Okay, great. I think they might have it built to last because they kind of look like siblings. And I feel like couples who look alike, couples who are right for each other start to look alike. Yes, that's true. But I don't know if necessarily they start out looking alike.

That's a little different. No, but I didn't see it at first, but like now I do. Yeah. But then once they're together, they start to look alike and that's nice. Yeah. It's cute. That's like when people start to look like their dogs, like me and Bryson. Bruna looks like you and Thea definitely looks like me.

I think Thea looks like Ben. Me too. I also think Magnolia also really looks like her mother. Satchler. And snitches started dressing like Magnolia and only Magnolia hues. In like creams and browns and nudes. Yeah. They are becoming, two become one.

Two become one. Two is better than one. Do you remember that boys like girls album? I used to be left drunk, but now I'm hung over. I remember the hits. I like that was like my first album that I listened to, like ever in full over like one summer at summer camp. And I swear I could still like retain all the words.

That was such a good album. I was such like an emo kid. Like I was misunderstood. You were not like other kids no and like I just used to like put my iPod nano headphones in and like rock out to boys like girls and just disassociate yeah another place another time and like look out the car window pretending I was in a music video that was so me yeah I was like so that girl you should film a music video for one of your songs and it's just you looking out the car window the whole time I love it would just be like a dream fulfilled i love i love love that idea um theo has to be in

it too obviously he'll be looking out the other window of course tongue hanging out of his mouth yeah um so i feel like we can dive in we have some some good stories and i really want to talk about real housewives of beverly hills because it was like so twisted agreed so without further a do-do-do-do though where are you bruno is right there do-do-do-do where are you theo is a sweetheart do-do-do-do where is thu crunchy angel dora hi muffin dora we've got the boys it's gonna be a good day you guys It's Thursday. We're almost through the week. Congratulations. Even though this is the least amount of ado in a while, I feel. Yeah. Even though whenever we were talking about the segments this week that people loved,

a lot of people do love the pre-Fast Five banter. Who doesn't? But the thing about it is when it's done, it's done. Beautifully said. Like, really, it's stunning. So now without further ado, it is time for the fast dive stories that you need to know and today's episode is very appropriately brought to you and sponsored by caraway home cooking products so if you watched our vlog making taylor swift's

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We were going through. I was feeling like a real like. Suburban mom not suburban homemaker jackie had these gorgeous cookbooks it was aina it was harvest girly they were two half-baked harvest one magnolia table and anina and i know but i don't and we didn't look at her desserts i do her for the main dish so i looked through the dessert sections of all the books and picked out the ones that look best in the photos and I think we ended up with half-baked harvest signature chocolate chip cookies they looked so good we're gonna make it this weekend um and I'm just excited because I love cookies like I really do and I'm just like loving baking and cooking with you for you for the family you've been doing an excellent

job especially when everyone likes what you've made there's really no better feeling there's no greater compliment and and fulfillment from nourishing the people you love with like good shit it's giving lessons in chemistry also my idea for doing a patreon asmr video is still out there i got a lot of people saying no but i got a lot of people saying i haven but I got a lot of people saying yes. I haven't seen the discourse. Yeah, no. People are like, please, I'd rather die. And other people were like, yes, queen.

And I think that's ASMR, a very divisive category of content. You know what would be a funny Patreon episode? It would be two episodes. It's a choose your own adventure. Would you rather you can listen to Claudia's ASMR's asmr episode or me talk about books i think i'll win you think yeah that would be really funny hi welcome welcome to my podcast i could never listen to that anyone even hear me i couldn't listen to it no you listening to it in real life is not fun but when it picks up on the mic it like it has ear triggers like this sounds like nothing to you

but on the mic I think it's a crispy I think these mics not might might not be right for ASMR sure I think sure is surely wrong for ASMR I'm sure they make ASMR specific microphones are you sure that they do I'm not sure I am not sure. I am not sure. I'm simply not sure. What kind of business is that? ASMR specific microphone. It's not ASMR specific microphones. It's like a different type of audio microphone. Like if you were, if we wanted to record every sound in this room, not just our, why these are such great podcast microphones that sure makes is because they isolate our voice. Like if there's a phone buzzing in the other corner, you won't hear it. it yes so it's just like a little lesson in audio this is your tech segment from your local av girl yeah so we'll make those cookies we'll let you know how it goes

and we'll be using caraway bakeware amen which i fucking love caraway bakeware i fucking love it i got it caraway bakeware i'll do it i. I got it. Caraway Bakeware. I'll do it. I don't give a fuck. I'll do it. Caraway Bakeware. You'll eat it. And you'll like it.

Totally. Guaranteed. Okay, let's get into it. You'll eat it and you'll like it. Guaranteed. It's like a delirious kind of day, you know? Yeah, I think those are peeps faves do our first story prince harry's memoir cover title and release date have been revealed i honestly did

not reveal yourself did not think this was going to happen until now we have a cover title and release date penguin random house has revealed the title and cover of prince harry's long-awaited memoir so we'll start with the title it's called spare as in the air and the spare and he is the spare because he's not the air because he's second to the air thus he is the spare one thing about me is i actually really like when people take the thing that that kind of plagues them and they've been mocked about and like owns it like reputation and the snakes. Like I actually really like that. That's not why people mock him for being a spare. No, but it's like the thing that people think about you. Do you know what I mean? It was once the thing that people

thought about him. Right. And I'm sure it shaped his upbringing. Your way of taking your power back is like owning that thing yes however and so i love when people do that it's like one of my favorite like ways to like turn the tables i just don't think this is particularly well done maybe if it was called the spare but the word spare doesn't feel like a complete book title to me do you know what i mean yeah it's a word also he was the spare five years ago now he's not the spare right uh like louis he's not in line no but even before the kids were born like he's no longer in line to the throne because he has stepped away oh i guess yeah he hasn't been the spare technically but it's still like a stigma

you know yeah and it's still like how he was referenced growing up right and i'm sure this book will be mostly about his childhood i imagine honestly it's going to be a little disappointing because people are looking for you know the exit t and i feel like that will be mostly about his childhood. I imagine, honestly, it's going to be a little disappointing because people are looking for, you know, the exit tea. And I feel like that will be the last chapter. And it's really going to be like growing up in the palace, the passing of his mother. Yeah. And all of the responsibilities and pressures that he faced. So we also have a release date, which is January 10th, 2023. Oh, my half birthday that I'm thinking about turning into my full birthday. You said that last year that you were going to, but then we celebrated your full birthday. So like.

But no, that's, but January is next year. Oh, so you would start it next year. Yeah, but then like, I don't want to turn. Sooner than you need to. Yeah. So that just sort of ran into my plan. I just hate having a summer birthday. Scratch that.

Scratch it. And then the cover was revealed, and it's a close-up photo of his fudge. He looks very handsome. Yeah. I'll show you guys as best I can, but also Google it. And it just says Prince Harry on top,

and then spare at the bottom. Oh, wait, that's weird. His name is Prince Harry. It wouldn't be like Harry Windsor. Right, Harry Mountbatten Windsor. I guess, like, royals really haven't written books. That's like the whole point. So there's not like a precedent that you can follow.

Like, oh, well, Camilla's book was Camilla Parker Bowles. So I'll be Harry Windsor. Yeah. I just think even though colloquially, yes, you're Prince Harry. You'll always be Prince Harry to us. Like when you're putting pen to paper. You should do your name. You're not a prince if you abdicated your duties.

Well, I think he still is a prince. Like in title only. He's not a working prince, but he's still a prince. Wait, no, I thought he was the Duke. Aren't they Duke and Duchess? Yes, but he was a prince because he was a grandchild of the monarch. But he abdicated. I'll always be confused.

I just always compare them to Edward. King Edward. King Edward had something to abdicate. I do think he's still, even in a technical sense, Prince Harry. In name only if King Edward his real name was David if he wrote a book after he abdicated and called himself King David and the author was King King Edward yeah no that would be incorrect that would be factually incorrect but factually I think he's still a prince I'm just thinking like you know your byline is your true god-given name right um but again like

I don't think anyone would know that Harry Windsor is his name I barely know that right no I think he's also making a statement like no matter what I do where I go like I'm Prince Harry everywhere I go every smile yeah I'm more fixated on the name I really don't think it's that good I'm also just like a hater to my core I I actually think it's pretty strong. I think it should have been Spare, the crazy beautiful life of a royal thirst monster. 1,000%. But I think it's a strong name and a strong cover.

I think it could have been stronger. It should have been like the Spare Diaries, like the Spare, or even Prince Harry, the Spare. Spare is just like, it's not punchy enough i disagree i think if prince harry the spare it's just about him being the spare but the it just being spare is like it could apply to other facets you know like what i don't know like maybe he was like sparing other people all the time you know i just think i like the idea i don't love the execution i think it could have been punchier i actually think i was pleasantly

surprised by the impact no i didn't expect to care about the spare what do we think harry's writing process was like i mean as a royal you're extremely well educated so does that mean you write your own book you work with a writer a ghost writer definitely still worked with a writer yeah just because you have an education doesn't mean that you are a compelling writer yeah yeah yeah that's true and you can be a compelling writer without having much of an education yeah very true very true facts spin facts left right and center so he definitely worked with someone like shared his experiences and feelings and they put it into prose right um like i want to say i am going to read this but like i'm probably not up next on my

list of memoirs is matthew perry's i've been hearing like crazy stories every day there's a headline with a crazy interesting factoid about what he experienced so i totally want to read it i'm not in like um memoir a memoir headspace but the next memoir I pick up I will be reading it especially because I just like love friends um I've heard and it's so crazy because I wasn't really like I was alive but I wasn't like a socially conscious person to like understand the magnitude of their fame at that time right because now I consider Matthew Perry like kind of like a husband but at the time there was no one more famous and so I think it'll be really interesting to hear the stories of like the parties like he was that guy yeah he was Brad Pitt of the

moment yeah so I really that's what I actually want to read I will read Harry's memoir based on the reviews of other people not like the critics reviews but like what the toasters say about it if people say there's a lot of tea what he what he focuses on what like you know the revelations are but also there's been a lot of books written by people who have left the palace the people who have worked for harry and megan during their time they're finding freedom and i've no but that was written by like harry and megan's besties right right right and i've been meaning to read some of those books so i would want it if i read his book i would want to read also like a counterpart you know like just to get

more of a full picture. Yeah. So it would be more of a project than just reading. It would be a large undertaking. Yeah. So but if you guys tell me that it's worth it and there's so much in here and we'll see how really we never saw him before, then sure, I pick it up. Yeah. I mean, this book is going to be like an instant bestseller, all that. There's going to be so much tea around the time of its release, kind of like how Matthew Perry's is now. It's going to be like an instant bestseller all that there's going to be so much tea around the time of its release kind of like how Matthew Perry's is now it's going to be like 10 times worse than that yeah um with like tidbits coming out to tease the book so I feel like we'll find out like what the major takeaways are in the during the week of its release because they release like the big juicy tidbits right and so if the tidbits are actually juicy, I will pick it up. If the tidbits are like behind the scenes

to what Harry was feeling after he wore the Nazi costume. Oh, I wonder if he'll talk about the Nazi costume. That sounds pretty titillating, actually. No, I mean, I feel like a lot of people glaze over that, but for me, that's like ever present in my mind because I'm a girl who doesn't forget Harry Hamlin. So I wonder if he will talk about the Nazi costume. Like what is one's thought

process into thinking that that's an idea you should move forward with i'm curious about that yeah that sounds good we shall see let us know let us know if he talks about he mentions it all mention it all are you ready for our next story yes taylor swift has cut the controversial fat scene from her music video after backlash taylor swift removed a scene for him her anti-hero music video after several health professionals and activists dubbed it fat phobic we discussed it yesterday she steps on a scale that called her fat instead of displaying a numerical weight now when you view the music video on apple music that that scene is scrubbed from the video so I don't really

agree with that and my thoughts on it are on yesterday's episode and I do want to thank everyone for like the feedback whether you agreed with me or not it was all very respectful and I so appreciate that um however if you're gonna take it out but not address it like it's kind of weird to me like and I know she's not like a queen who addresses things she's like is very you know private and she doesn't make lots of statements but to to edit it and not make a statement about like her thought process on why she did it I do feel like that's kind of weird but I also kind of feel bad like in a way like we silenced her like Like this was her journey.

Her experience. A music video about her life and her thoughts. And we totally invalidated it. Being like you are upsetting me. I'm triggered. And so someone who uses art to like express their thoughts and feelings. We said your thoughts and feelings aren't valid. Take it out.

Like that's like really fucked up to me. So I don't agree with taking it out. But I also don't agree with like taking it out. that's like really fucked up to me so I don't agree with taking it out but I also don't agree with like taking it out and then like not explaining right if it was so bad that you actually had to edit your music video take it down and re-upload it like that's how you know big of a mistake you made then you should address it like not just do it and not say anything it's confusing it's confusing I think it's a little crazy that she had to take it out like same I saw a tweet I saw there are a few comments in this article that I wanted to share um someone who was this person she is a social worker specializing in eating disorders she said having an eating

disorder doesn't excuse fat phobia it's not hard to say I'm struggling with my body image today instead of I'm a fat, disgusting pig. And someone else said, I saw someone say that she could have put not thin enough. And I think that would have been more in line with what she was trying to get across anyways, on top of not being offensive. I just feel like to be honest, I don't really give a shred of a shit what you think about someone else's experience. Now we're just like getting so into the weeds. It's like you can't say fat, but you could say not thin enough and you you can't say this, but if you had said that, it would have been better. It's like, it's all saying the same thing.

And like people just like to like. They get obsessed with semantics. And they just like abuse language. And it's like, it's, it's, you're saying the same thing, but you can't say that word. But it's like phrasing it this way is more easy for you to digest. So everyone in the world should tiptoe around you. Even though we're saying the same thing. But also I saw someone say,

I feel like there are a lot of people who maybe have struggled with an eating disorder and they're saying like this triggered them. I've also seen people say, I've struggled with an eating disorder and it's so refreshing to see someone like Taylor, who I think is so gorgeous and slim and perfect that she goes through these same things just like me.

And it makes me feel less alone yep and you know quote unquote normal the tweet that I saw that resonated with me was it's from Steven Osola it's beyond fucked up that we've reached a point where an artist can be guilt ridden over the portrayal of their own trauma that they sanitized down their art to make everyone feel comfortable yes but that when I read that, like then a part of me becomes disappointed in Taylor. It's like, no stand up for how you feel. Your experience. Like, and instead of just acquiescing because everyone like made you feel some type of way when really you didn't do anything wrong, but it's your experience. No. And also like, I think as a society, we really need to start getting comfortable being triggered. Like the expectation

that every piece of media you digest, every art, everything that you're going to leave your house and see all these things that everything should be designed to make you feel comfortable. I think that's unreasonable. It's my favorite quote, friendly, but it's like being triggered and being offended as a consequence of leaving your house. Like the world is not designed to make you feel comfortable. Everyone has things that, that trigger them, whether it's this eating disorder, whether it's grief, whether it's anything like we all have different life experiences. And a part of being human is having trauma. And I just think like the, the way we're expecting everyone to accommodate us is unreasonable.

I think we're making ourselves actually weaker in doing that because a huge part, I think, of healing is being able to be triggered. And confront it and work through it and move past it instead of tiptoeing around it, constantly like, you know, side swiping it. And then anything that just immediately like makes us uncomfortable, like we demand it be erased and changed. And there's so many people we've all been through so much everyone has different triggers if we really

took away every single trigger people could not speak people could not act right so while I think at its core like the idea of like trigger warnings like I do think that's like a nice idea I agree I do struggle with also like thinking about how we're really actually setting ourselves up for failure yes because we're just going to become weak and comfortable and nothing is really, and I don't know how you heal in that. Like, so I really do struggle because I think at its core, like the whole concept of trigger warnings is actually really nice. Yeah.

Because you don't want anyone to open up their phone. And have a bad day. Because of you. Right. So I get that. But also I'm like, but wait, like I actually think a part of growing and healing, like is being able to be confronted by something that makes you uncomfortable and being okay with it right

so I don't know I don't know what the right thing is but I'm leaning towards not trigger warnings honestly like the more I think about it yeah I think like a lot of things starts off in earnest even like we were talking about my truth the other day yeah it's like okay yes that is your truth but then it goes too far and you're like well does this make any sense and then also like just the concept of someone being offended therefore gives them in like an entitlement do you know what I mean yeah I don't know I don't know my feelings are more important than yours right right because I'm the offended I was offended and my offense is more important than your experience, trauma, expression, et cetera.

Totally. Totally. Still working through these thoughts, but that's where my brain was at when I saw this. Agreed. My brain was at, I was actually disappointed in her because I think people need to start putting their foot down. I know. It's like, we're all just like, oh, I'm upsetting you.

Sorry. Like it's weenie central. I'll concede this one thing because it's easier than to take a stand for something I don't really care about whether it says fat or not I don't it doesn't matter but it's the principle of the thing and it's the scruples scruples scruples totally I agree like I do wish she had but one thing about Taylor's like she's not a controversial queen like she doesn't make statements like that like she just wants to like do her art and live a private life.

And like, I can also respect that. Like her, you know, protecting her inner peace by just acquiescing. Like I can understand that. Sure. Cause the world is like such a harsh place. The internet is such a harsh place that if you don't address something like you're labeled fat phobic forever, forever, like those labels are so toxic because people they're they're more often than not a major stretch and they people will will label you that and keep it attached to your name forever

right and I think some people like really can't survive that like not being able to come back from this or that but I think think taylor this is a drop in the bucket for her so this would have been a nice time to take a stand and be like you guys it's it's my life it's my art it's my video i stand by what i said right and if you don't like it then simply don't watch it yeah because it's so important to always remember like if you're so triggered like you can turn off your computer you can put your phone down and you can go be not triggered in your backyard like the personal accountability i think they'll be triggered in the backyard like what if one of the birds says

something right no it's so birds and the bees so true so true so that's my take on that agreed our next story a little more controversy for the great british bake-off what ever would have thought but it's such like a peaceful show i know and and And I think for so many people, like that's the point of the show. But so the Great British Baking Show, Judge Prue Leith, you know Prue, queen. Never saw her in my life. She's addressing the backlash the show received after Mexican week. So they had an episode. Each week is themed.

I've seen so many episodes. It's hard for me to recall all of the themes that they've done or even some of them. Backtrack. What is the concept of the British Bake Off? OK, so there starts with 12 cooks. Every week someone's eliminated. Bakers. Sorry. And they're like, they some of them. Backtrack. What is the concept of the British Bake Off? Okay. So there's starts with 12 cooks every week. Someone's eliminated bakers. Sorry. And they're like the best. They try to get the best one. Yes. And each week they have to make three different things. The first challenge is okay. So say it was like, here's an example. The first challenge would be like chocolate chip cookies. Everyone makes their best chocolate chip

cookies, whatever recipe you want to follow sure the judges come around and taste them some people put a flare in them some people fuck up whatever then the second challenge is a technical challenge the judges will say follow this recipe yeah here's a good example of one technical challenge they once had them make a babka a lot of people didn't know what a babka was they give them a one paper that's kind of like very bare bones recipe and the ingredients and you have to figure out what it is and how to make it so that's the technical and then the third is like big gangbusters you know hydraulics cake etc and the week is usually themed of some sort so I think there's been like 80s themes there's always a random theme and there are two hosts who are like really make the corniest

jokes at the start of every episode I'm more of a nailed it girly than a Great British Bake Off girly. I love the Great British Bake Off. I do find it extremely calming and serene. So controversy has penetrated the Great British Bake Off after Mexico week. Okay. So first, the episode starts with the two hosts who are always making corny jokes. One says, I don't feel like we should make Mexican jokes because people will get upset. And the other one says, what?

Not even Juan? And the other guy says what not even Juan and the other guy says not even Juan okay then there the competition had them making um let me just get it in order of what they made they made a hold on pan dulce steak tacos and a tres leches cake tres leches right so there was a lot of controversy surrounding it. An author, Julie Powell, tweeted, just watched the Mexican Week episode of Great British Baking Show and God, it was unbearable.

Offensive on a lot of levels. But then Anna Navarro from The View said, I love the British Bake Off. Paul Hollywood is my celebrity crush. Frankly, I was not offended by the way they depicted Mexicans. Thought it was cor Frankly, I was not offended by the way they depicted Mexicans. Thought it was corny, but I was offended by the crimes they committed

against tacos and Tres Leches. K-horror. You know, the hosts were wearing sombreros and traditional. So this is a thing. It's cultural appropriation, but I noticed it on TikTok. It's a lot of these conversations

are being had around food and recipes because it all started this girl was like I'm gonna make this like fruity drink and she gave it like a name and apparently the drink that she made that like had went viral is called agua fresca it's like a traditional Mexican drink and it's like fresh water I don't know um and so she got like you know her like annihilated because she found this like fruit drink recipe and didn't attribute it to its Mexican roots. This girl, uh, people descended upon her. So in food culture, there's a lot of like stickiness because food cuisines come from

different parts of the world. Now I have a differing opinion on this in general, for me if my culture got a television episode or you know a viral trend like I would be so overjoyed I'm like oh my god people are sharing like there's so many great Jewish foods and Jewish culture is so funny like I would love a spotlight yeah on my culture okay and what if the two hosts were wearing like Pais? Oh, that's a good question. No, I don't think I would like that. But, but, but that's because Pais is a religious.

So it's like disrespectful to wear it if you're not because of religion. Maybe, I don't know if I'm seeing this incorrectly. What could be a. A cultural Jewish thing that's not a religious thing. Right. Like a cultural Jewish thing. Like if I wore, I don't know, like, like what is the Jewish equivalent of a sombrero? A yarmulke?

But that's religious. Yes, yes. Hmm, wait, this is an interesting conversation. Let me think for one second. I don't know if there is an equivalent. Yeah. Because it is a religion versus a nationality. No, I do know that in recent years, sombreros have become like a big no-no. Like I did know that. Um, but like, see, it's tough for me to, to criticize. Cause it's like

not my culture. And like, if it was like, I would be fucking annoyed. Like I would, but I also want to believe like this is all in good fun and celebrating Mexican cuisine you know I mean I didn't see this episode but given all the other episodes like I think it really isn't all in good fun is or isn't is all in good fun like you know not meant to be offensive whatsoever the approve said she addressed it she said there would have absolutely been no intention to offend that's not the spirit of the show. Right, that's the whole concept of intent versus impact.

Like you can digest something and find it offensive, but the person who perpetuated it is coming from a good place. And like that counts for something, it does. Yeah. But I can understand, like I guess if the pay is, which I think is a more extreme comparison, like I would be furious.

Really? But if the whole episode was just a celebration of like Jewish culture and Jewish food? See, we we never get that it would depend what entailed in the episode but if it was you know a typical episode that I've seen where it's like they're learning about babka is a great example say the first thing was like rugelach and the last thing was like learning about how they made rugelach and old shtetls like yeah I think I would like that I would like it but that's because we come from a culture that doesn't get highlighted right like it might be annoying to be like you you know, Mexican where it's like everyone is

always like talking like and using our recipes and then like not even attributing it to our culture. They did attribute it. Yeah. It was Mexican week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't really feel like I can fairly compare because I don't, I've never seen an episode of TV that separates like, you know, let's do Jewish week or, you know.

Yeah. So I don't know. I don't think it's fair. I guess people are entitled are entitled if something rubs you the wrong way like it rubs you the wrong way I think but like most things there are people who are offended by it and then there are people who are like like Anna Navarro's like just the food looks bad like right I mean that's right it's like how deep are you gonna look into this right but I do think the conversation about food and culture is interesting yeah it's like if you did whittle it down all the way like let's go all the way down this road um can anyone make food from anyone else's culture right no so that's a conversation that's constantly being had on tiktok and I don't cook so like I don't really like pay attention to the conversation

that much but it's like where you draw the line between like wanting to respect like the culture in which this dish came from, but also then like, so what you're just not supposed to cook anything other than American food. Right. So it's an interesting, it's an interesting conversation. One that I really don't feel strongly enough. I don't know enough about, I don't know. And, um, ultimately that harms other cultures.

Right. Cause you want to celebrate that and highlight that. Right. Yeah. So it's an interesting conversation. I was actually just looking for it because in the book I read,

Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, there was a really interesting thing about cultural appropriation because they made a video game about centering around a Japanese character and there were a lot of Japanese influences and but it was early 2000 so then like later in the book there was an interview and they're like it was that cultural appropriation and I wish I had the quote but the person who made the game actually gave a really interesting response about how like

if you do go all the way down that road it's just you know white people making things about white people and etc etc right no and et cetera, et cetera. Right, no, and then you get to a point where like it's like segregated. Right, right. Right, no, so I think there's a respectful way to do it. And I think some people take, on both sides, like take it too far.

Right, right. Demanding that only, you know, Asian people can cook Asian food. And it's like, well, don't you want to share your culture with the world? Right. Yeah, no, I think that my opinion on this is definitely biased because I wish more people would take interest in and highlight my culture you know got it so that's my POV is skewed from that perspective

like oh you guys are complaining like what about us whatever happens to us you know that's just my thoughts yeah it's hard to put yourself in the situation. Right, of someone who's from a culture that's constantly getting appropriated. Like, maybe it's fucking annoying. Like, maybe it is, you know? I wouldn't know, but maybe it is. Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Ariana Grande's titillating fans with her new blonde hair as she transforms into Glinda from Wicked. Because she's wickedly talented. That's, by the way, someone called it yesterday when Claudia was at the end of the episode talking like that.

Podcast. Five stars where we listen to podcasts and in the morning just leave a five star review about how beautiful, stunning, and smart we are. It was giving John Travolta introducing Adele Dazeem. The wickedly talented Adele Dazeem.

That was the craziest thing. One of the best nights of my life. Yeah. Like that was like when internet meme culture was like on fire and like people were just making such funny content. That was such a great night. Yes. So Ari is getting into character for the forthcoming Wicked movie with a dramatic blonde hair transformation

worthy of Glinda the Good Witch. It's a little early. Like the movie's coming out what, in six years? In six years, but they're starting tings now. So she captioned it new earrings, but obviously everyone was quaking about a blonde Ari. No, the way like I have so much hope and faith in this week. Like I will be so disappointed if this movie sucks.

Like between Ari as Glinda. I don't think it could suck because the story is written and it's a good story. That's true, but like cats cats was it a story worth telling i mean it's the longest running broadway show like there has to be something there is there it reminds me of uh kimmy schmidt me too it's like a an open audition you just come in dressed like a cat and you take the stage um but like between ari being glinda andinda and Cynthia Erivo being Alphaba, like I don't know how it could be poorly done. Like I'm so excited.

And with all the time that they're taking. Right, take your time. Like really. Only if it's A++. And it's two parts, which is like kind of psychotic. It's the wizard night. So excited.

You guys like. You can't think about it too hard. I can't get excited right now. It's you'll lose steam. It comes out Christmas 2024. Yeah. Not even next Christmas. That's insane.

Insane. Love Island puts out episodes the next day. That's such a that's so important to always remember. If they can do that. Anyone can get us a movie by next Christmas no the fact that it doesn't take more than doesn't take less than two weeks to make a movie like is psychotic to me yeah no like two weeks to film I'll give you guys I'm gonna be generous two months to edit oh I was gonna say a week no like sometimes there's cgi you know and whatnot things come up um maybe a reshoot i'm gonna give you two months and then i want to

see it yeah no it's like get it like speed it along like the movie industry is like like becoming more stretched out and like longer to make films when like isn't the technology getting better and like isn't elon musk putting people on mars like right make a movie make it make sense make your movie make your movie. Make your movie. It's not that hard. I mean we put together an hour of the toast

every single day and it's like premium. Literally. So like get it together. Are we movie stars? Yes. Did you not know that? No I thought we were

just like small screen. No we're big screen girlies. How scary. An ass so big needed the big screen. We're too big for the small screen. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

The final story. It's the final story. Delta Z. She's wicked vinyl story. Adele Dazeem. She's wickedly talented. It's Adele Dazeem. Our fifth and final story. We have a new music star on our hands. Charlie D'Amelio has dropped her debut song,

If You Ask Me To. So in tandem with the finale of the D'Amelio show season two on Hulu airing, Charli has released her first song called If You Ask Me To. In a press statement, Charli detailed the inspiration behind her foray into music and why now felt like the right time to release a single. Quote, I've always loved music and performing. Once my online following started growing, I was able to showcase my passion for dance, but I felt that with so many other people entering the music space, there wasn't room for me. However, with my dad's encouragement,

I got into the studio at the beginning of this year just to pursue singing as a hobby. With each writing and recording session, my love for the process grew and I became incredibly proud of the music we're making. So before we get into this, this is reminding me of another story from like months ago where someone was putting

out a new song and I read like their press statement. I'm having deja vu. I've literally no idea. Oh my God. It was like someone's new song and like just their statement about like, you know, the process, whatever. And like, I have quite literally no idea. I'm so sorry.

Well, do you feel like, um, like this might be like a little weird with Dixie? Well, yeah. Because that was Dixie's thing. No, it was like Dixie's thing. And like, but at the same time, like social media was like Charlie's thing. And then she involved Dixie and her whole family. And then they all got different platforms. And like Charlie was doing dance and like.

I don't think you can claim social media. No, you know what I mean? Like Dixie has a platform because Charlie did. Right. And Dixie would admit that. I'm not being like shady or anything. Right, right, right. But like singing was Dixie's trade. No, then so like Dixie has a platform because Charlie did. Right. And Dixie would admit that. I'm not being, like, shady or anything. Right, right, right. But, like, singing was Dixie's trade.

No, then, so, like, Dixie carved out, like, a space for herself. Because everyone was like, you're just Charlie's sister. And then she started releasing music. And, like, the shit was popping off. Like, it was hitting billboard charts. Like, it was actually good shit. She did a song with Wiz Khalifa. So, it was very much, like, her thing.

And now it's, like, Charlie coming in and eclipsing that. Yeah. I'm sure Dixie's okay with it if Charlie's doing it. Yeah. But it's like Charlie coming in and eclipsing that yeah I'm sure Dixie is okay with it if Charlie's doing it yeah but it's a little surprising you know like to really do everything I know I feel like this is kind of superfluous like I agree it's so late by the way it's a nice song you know it's pretty and I'm not saying it's bad and I'm sure her voice is beautiful but like I just feel like from a branding perspective, it's like a little late after like Addison did it and Dixie did it.

Yeah. It's like you're doing too much. Like you're on Dancing with the Stars right now. The D'Amelio show, like the social tourists, like they do a lot. And like, I just think like you could hold off. But like maybe someone who's managing her is thinking big picture. Like she didn't have the singing part yet, if she added singing like she could be a superstar triple threat she's saying she has a huge audience like i have a tv show she could go on tour like if

she has some hits behind her and like maybe she's the next britney spears and we just needed some songs from her maybe like maybe we're thinking small potatoes now now it begs the question like why they wouldn't be a singing duo the D'Amelio sisters right the sisters D'Amelio DC CD the D'Amelio sisterhood sisterhood of the traveling D'Amelio that's it that's the title I just thought this was interesting me too that's why I chose it yeah I mean for me like Addison is the Britney like of our generation like all these one hit wonder no I know but what's so crazy is she has like five more released, five more unreleased songs

that keep getting leaked on TikTok. And they're so good. I know. Why doesn't she put out more music? My nails to die for. This boom, boom to die for. It's like iconic pop music. Why won't you release it?

I have literally no idea. And she's been using the sounds like the, like she knows everyone like has heard them that they're leaked. She'll make TikToks to it. I don't know. Like that one to die for is like, if it ever leaked. She'll make TikToks to it. I don't know. That one, To Die For, if it ever comes out, I'm going to be pussy popping on the beach. It's so good.

To die for my neck. To die for this boom, boom. To die for. It's really like classic pop. It's really good. Even Obsessed was so good. You say you're obsessed with me. So I took a second and I said me too. you're obsessed with me so i took a second and i said me too

you're obsessed with me as much as you you said you'd die for me i'd die for me too we were driving down sunset you know i love fast cars it's really like it's good shit i know where is addison's music what do we want new music from Addison when do we want it now we'll clip this for TikTok and it'll go viral and she'll see it and then she'll she'll release music she will do her thing but I do think someone over at team Charlie is thinking big picture because if this goes well like she could be the Gen Z superstar the one selling out stadiums the one thing about charlie that i think she needs to like ameliorate if she's going to be this like she needs to ameliorate

she's very shy like even on the show like she was working with a vocal coach and she was so nervous to sing in front of the vocal coach so was dixie last season and then dixie got better and dixie did like the jingle ball circuit she's very shy she's so young um the thing about Addison was like she didn't give a fuck like she was being like sexy dancer older she's built for it confidence comes with age yeah that's true also I feel like strangely a lot of the people who have a lot of success in the public space are shy people that's true you know I don't know what that is like you would think the ham like let's get the ham out there but like people don't want the ham. Like the boulevard.

Yeah. They want that like shy maybe because they can relate to that person more. Perhaps that's a good, that's a really good thing. It reminds me of Queen Elizabeth and her sister, because remember when they were little kids, like her sister, Margaret was the big personality. Elizabeth was very shy and they were like, well, let's just let Margaret be queen. Like, because she wants to, and I don't want to, but it's like Margaret would have been a terrible queen. Right.

Whereas Elizabeth was a wonderful queen because of that shyness. Preserved. Yeah, totally. I'm speaking of queens. Let's dive into the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills part three reunion recap. It was a great episode. I do feel like overall the Aspen incident, the reunion and just the season in general,

were like slightly overhyped on social media because so many things had been leaking. And I was we got to see we got to see it and then we got to the part and they didn't even have any footage so just overall I did feel like this general sense of like yeah like kind of a letdown last night I thought Kathy came in and guns blazing she was really acting like a politician like she was really very well spoken her words were cutting she had a couple really good reads like to Erica, like, Oh, who do you think people are going to trust me or you? Not even that.

Who has more credibility? It was kind of like a fire flames, um, insult. The big bombshell was that Erica claimed, which I had read on, on Reddit or somewhere like a forum Instagrams prior to the season airing. Was that why it was such a big deal in Aspen was that

Kathy had this altercation and she ended up calling the DJ the F slur. Um, Erica said that she heard it. None of the other women heard it. And I really, I just honestly, like, I don't know if I believe it, but like as much as Kathy was like coming out guns blazing, she did have like a few, like not so great um like when she said you know that text that you claim I sent you it's not in my phone like Kathy we discovered like oh you can delete text messages and Lisa Rinna was like what she totally sent that text that text wasn't even that incriminating I have no issue with that text yeah it wasn't that crazy so I do feel like she's definitely like lying about a couple things but overall like I do think Lisa Rinna is untrustworthy I think she's coming from

a bad bad place I think she wants the heat off of her I think she wants to get off of Erica and so she's dumping Kathy down the river and like for me like I just like don't care like any mistakes Kathy made like they're not a mistake to me yeah I think that's the thing it's like Lisa Rinna's fighting to prove that what Kathy like did happened and I think she thinks that if she can prove that Kathy said these terrible things like that, everyone will turn on Kathy. But, um,

I'm sure nobody cares. Believes. I'm sure Kyle thinks that Kathy said those things. Um, she doesn't care. I think if the fans even somehow could get proof that Kathy said those things, they wouldn't care.

Um, people just are, are gravitating towards Kathy over Rinna. It's not even about whether she said it or not, at least not for me, like about if she said Dorita's stupid or this or that. Like she was on a tirade. She probably said some mean shit.

I also believe that you can be angry and say stuff that you don't mean. I don't think those are her true thoughts about her sister and the group of girls. But we are just riding for Kathy. Yeah, like at the end of the day, it's like she's fighting a losing battle, Rinna, because, like, she could be 100% right,

and, like, the thing is, we don't care, because we don't like you, and we like her. Like, that's it. I do wish Andy had, like, he was, like, not doing an amazing job. I do wish he had pressed a little bit more, like, Lisa Rinna being so fucking dramatic, like, about everything.

It's like, you've been on the show for 10 years. Like, you've acted like an animal. Everyone here has acted like an animal, and you're saying you're gonna get cancer. Like, you're being crazy. You you're crazy I actually think that given the fact that Rinna is a big personality on the show and not someone he could just like cast aside I do think he he did ask that question like you've seen so much and he followed up he's like of everything you've seen this was so crazy I was bothered that no one called Rinna out for abusing the word abusive.

Just like, cancer. Yeah. Like, no, she was using big words that are like, actually like hold a lot of meaning. And you are not a victim of abuse.

Right. You're not even really being bullied. You're literally like using these grandiose words, cancer. Right. For a nothing burger. A nothing burger. And as Kathy and Lisa both said when Kathy was

going off she wasn't mad at Lisa like Lisa was her sounding board so she was mad at Kyle yeah she wasn't even saying anything mean to Lisa about Lisa like Lisa was just there Kathy was abusing her glasses and yeah right that's so true no Lisa's so fucking dramatic like for what yeah just to make Kathy a villain I think like Kathy coming in last season and just like doing the least and getting the most really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way yeah and like it made her a target and I think this has a lot to do with that and it's just so funny how so many times we've seen her on the show Kathy and she's just like so go with the flow yeah silly in the slippers and that like she came out last night like a fucking sniper pointed like she had her points made she came out with her purse

she looked like a gorgeous you know there were no slippers in sight no no she was really on one like she was like oh everyone's gonna be like spend the whole year dragging my name like I'll show you and again like did she do that shit like maybe, maybe. Do we care? No. No. We don't. We really don't. Yeah. That's what it boils down to.

It was like, people just like Kathy. Yeah. And I don't know what she could do to make us not like her, but this ain't it. Right. And so the biggest thing now is the relationship between Kathy and Kyle. And it was crazy to me how Kathy likely said these really nasty things about Kyle yet Kathy is mad at Kyle and Kyle's the one apologizing and I'm like how did this happen well that's what Kyle's so upset about it's like our relationship is so dysfunctional like we finally get to a good place I don't want

to start a fight because I'm it's kind of like a little a little bit like Melissa and Teresa like I don't want to start a fight because like even if I'm right which in this situation like Kathy's wrong for blaming everything on Kyle even if I'm, like I have to acquiesce and like, I'm the one who's going to be in the wrong. So like, if we could just not talk about it, we could continue on our peaceful sister journey. That would be great.

Right. But I feel like Kathy like said that shit about Kyle probably, but why did she say it? And it was because of a season of Kyle, like not having her back. And they said, and putting her down, putting her down. They had a conversation where it's like not having her back. And they said- And putting her down. Putting her down.

They had a conversation where it's like, you never pick up my calls. I feel like Kyle may be in their personal life, kind of just like writes her off. Like in the show, she doesn't support her. The tequila and Kathy hit her breaking point. And now she's upset about all of those things. And so, yes, it's being overshadowed

by the tantrum that she threw. But Kathy's still upset that like, you choose these girls over me all the time and I'm your sister. No, it's being overshadowed by the tantrum that she threw. But Kathy's still upset that like you choose these girls over me all the time. And I'm your sister. No, it's fair. Like Kathy's just not great at making her point when it comes to Kyle. Yeah. But I also think she doesn't want to like go down that road on television

and have this like intimate. No, it's so tacky. Conversation about our relationship. And that's what she kept saying. She's like, you wanted to do it on camera. So I did it on camera to make it up to you, but I wanted to do it on the phone. And in the reunion, you can tell that Kathy

does not want to have this family conversation on television, and I think that's so normal. I think it's fair. But they hadn't seen each other since the reunion until BravoCon, which is sad. But it was probably six weeks. No. Think about when the reunion films.

It's not that many weeks ago. Oh, yeah, that's true. But it's still a long time to, think about when the reunion films. It's not that many weeks ago. Oh, yeah, that's true. But it's still a long time to not see your sister who lives in the same city as you. Right, but people get busy with lives. It's not that, it's not like a year, which is what it felt like at first. But I'm like, wait, maybe two months.

I am curious, though, like where we go from here. Because Kathy's been very clear that under no circumstances would she return to the show if Rinna and Erica are both there. She said Erica. I saw it Erica are both there she said Erica I saw it now TMZ she told Erica am I the only one who's had an about face about Erica um no you're not because honestly like some of the shit she was saying last night like I kind of agreed with a lot of the stuff she was saying throughout the reunion about other people's issues not even her own stuff like yeah no I think she was giving like early Erica shrewd

yeah no I didn't think what she was saying was that crazy and I do think like a lot of the women like are kind of performative when it comes to like the victims it's like well oh you're you care so much like do what Diana did raise some money like I do feel like they're only pretending to care so that the audience doesn't give them more shit since they already stand with Erica and I do feel like that's really phony of them I her her Achilles heel is her friendship with Rinna like she is making like I actually have started to like respect what she says and like turn on her a little bit but her friendship with Rinna is just diabolical like it's not ever gonna make me really warm towards her. Yeah.

It doesn't bother me so much as long as she likes kind of stays out of. Yeah. And they did stay out of each other's big business last night. Like she's not getting into the victim stuff. And Erica was not getting into the Kathy stuff. Right. Other than to say she heard Kathy say that slur. Oh, right. But when it came to the victim stuff, I don't know.

I just feel like she's starting to make more sense to me in terms of where she's coming from. And yes, it looks terrible and unsympathetic, but these people are like, it's so bound up in legal issues that she has like really no wiggle room, not even to give sympathy. Yeah. Cause then that's acknowledging. And those are people who are suing her. So she it's it's a very tough spot it's a really tight line to walk and i actually think she's walked it really well i think it's become clear that she did not know no yeah and that she like wasn't nefarious in her doings yeah i'll always still question why she happened to divorce tom like the same month after like a 15 year marriage why she divorced him like the same month this all came out. Yeah.

That's my biggest question. That's a good question. But, and at the time I thought it was like they were faking divorce so that they could hide assets, whatever. The assets, yeah. But they're not getting back together after this. No, and there's no assets.

Right. To hide. Even though she wasn't like a overwhelming presence, Garcelle was the queen of the reunion. Of course. Her facial expressions, the times that she butted in were just so premium. You know, when Lisa Rinna was like,

well, that's between you and Kathy and Kyle. Kathy and Kyle, that's between you. And so Garcelle's like, well, why the fuck won't you get out of it? Like, why won't you stop bringing it up? Garcelle is just, I feel like Garcelle has had a horrible season. Like she had not have a good time.

And I really feel like she would leave the show because now it's like her kids and like she's she doesn't fuck around with that I really hope she doesn't I hope she gets a raise I I could see a world in which she doesn't return even though she's a fan favorite because like shit went too far this year and I really hope that's not the case I think if I have to predict I think she'll come back but we won't see her kids on the show anymore yeah like I think they'll never film again yeah which I think is what a lot of the women should do because the Bravo fan base like after years and years has like reached a boiling point where they're not okay I feel like every reunion there's a whole segment about the hate

the death threats it's like and they're pointing fingers at each other for like who's responsible but it's like maybe the psychopaths sending the death threats are responsible yeah i don't think and i don't think any of the women really are behind sending each other thoughts and this and that me neither it's so bad it's so evil yeah the some of the corners of the bravo fandom are really really dark yeah so if i was coming on the show now i would not put my kids on it yeah so i think that's where Garcelle will go because also the reel is over so she has like more time than she's had and I think aside from what went down this season like she's enjoyed her time the fans love her I think she enjoys being well received that must feel really good yeah she's had she has good friendships on this show now I think that's the change that she'll make and I think that would be appropriate but I would also completely

understand if she does doesn't want to do it anymore. Right. I'm just curious with the Rinna stuff, with the Garcelle stuff, what that means for casting for next season but we'll just have to wait and see.

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