The Toast - The Day The Music Died: Tuesday, September 19th, 2023

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to The Toast. Happy Tuesday. I am honored and humbled to be joined in studio by a major celebrity, also happens to be my husband. Hey, Ben Soffer. How you doing? I'm doing wonderful, darling. How are you?

Wonderful? Wonderful. Is that because we're together and we just celebrated six years of marital bliss? It is, but it's also because any day that God allows me to wake up in the morning is a good day. Wow. He's feeling spiritual after Rosh Hashanah. Any day that I wake up is a good day. Also any day when I eat good, sleep good, hydrate well. You're with family. Like how can you wake up bad? I can't. Okay, good. I can't. I can't wake up bad. I'm loving this positive energy and outlook you're bringing to the show today, Ben.

It's because I went into Jackie's fridge and I found an almond cookie butter creamer. Wow. That just really made my coffee just zip. It rocked your world? It was really, really tasty. Like think of like that Biscoff cookie. I'm assuming that that's exactly what it was. Where you find on a Delta flight.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crumbled up. Use a bunch of artificial sweeteners put it into some cancer's concoction and use some almond paste and then put it into my paste i think so right it was a paste it was pasty no it wasn't paste it was it was liquid yeah okay but you mix it with almond you're misrepresenting the almond creamer no i'm not yeah you are i think i described it perfectly you said it was a paste i said that when you mix it you're using almond paste i don't think that how how do you how do you think that they get the almonds into the almond creamer i think they use almond milk got it how do you think they make almond milk you soak almonds in water yes and then what does it turn into almond milk a paste no it's not a paste i think it is no i see people

making almond milk on tiktok all the time yeah you see people making one little bottle of almond milk these people are making trillions of gallons they're big corporate i don't know how we got to this part of the conversation but i'd like to leave immediately thank you so much for joining us here today yes how are you feeling in terms of, you know, your upcoming appearance on the toast? You were on last week. I don't think it was our best work. Really? Yeah. That Friday episode. I thought it was great. I mean, it's always nicer to be in studio, but yeah, but I thought it was great. Okay. Yeah. Like you're saying, how am I feeling like on this episode? I'm feeling fantastic. I just told you I'm feeling fantastic. I feel like you're being very defensive. Like I'm,

I'm, I was just asking a question. Got it. Yeah. No, I'm feeling great. I just told you I'm feeling fantastic. I feel like you're being very defensive. Like, I was just asking a question. Got it. Yeah, no, I'm feeling great. Very excited for a great episode where we go through some wonderful news stories. Before we do that, we have to update everyone. I told everyone on the podcast yesterday about the gift that I got you for our six-year anniversary. Oh, yes. It was a wonderful, wonderful gift.

I got a cameo from Sir Louis Litt and he was just as charming as ever. Did you experience, Jackie talks to me a lot and she spoke on the podcast yesterday about kind of like an uncomfortableness of receiving a cameo. Like it just feels like you're seeing a celebrity, like a little too up close. Did you feel any of that? No, I loved it. I loved it. I didn't think that it was weird. I do. I do think again, as a celebrity myself, that it is a little strange that we needed to pay for it. And we couldn't just, I'm 100% sure that we know somebody

who knows somebody who knows somebody that knows Mr. Louis Lit. Yeah, I just, I wanted to pay him what he was due. Like he's a working actor. They're on strike. Absolutely. No, he deserves the coin. I'm just saying that I do feel that there were ways to get to him without Cameo. And there's something about Cameo that feels a little bit like prostitution i think it's like a

great business and i kind of wish i thought of it myself do you think it feels like prostitution though um you're being paid for your work i guess what life isn't prostitution that's called capitalism like you work and you get paid yes one life isn't prostitution would you say that you're a prostitute of my podcast yeah you come on here and you fuck it yeah i do i use money and run i use it i'm still waiting on that money from day one from day one you talk about bad royalties i have the worst royalty deal in the game ben is an unpaid guest and he does it out of the kindness of his heart of his heart because he loves you guys so much and he loves showing his feet on the podcast.

That's really what he. By the way, while you may not get paid directly by me for coming on the show, you do get paid because you further your career as a foot model. And then you get all these people reaching out, send foot pics. Yeah, a thousand percent. And also you can still go to SpritzSociety.com slash Pink Lemonade and buy the flavor that rocked the freaking world you can also use code toast you should use 10 off um and you can also listen to good guys the number two greatest

podcasts in the whole world of course i'm on number one that's not a legitimate statistic let's just keep that in mind why not like you're not actually number two you're probably like number two in our hearts what the hell number two you know okay so then are you really number one yes i don't know if you saw the charts over the weekend we were number one yeah we charted one set number two i don't think that you did you didn't see number two number two in all categories including horror oh wow yeah we're very scary so we're lying today no but really give it a listen honestly whether it's number two or number 69 or number 100 whatever it is good guys the more people that listen the more episodes we can record it doesn't have to be one day a week guys like it could be five i like that little face you

made after 69 yeah it was nice right did it remind you no shut your mouth. We don't do that. Okay, stop. Why did you bring that up? Moving on. Let's talk about the Roman Empire. Okay. I have nothing to say. I don't know what this dumb trend is where guys want to talk about the Roman Empire. No, it's not that they want to talk about it.

It's that women discovered that men are constantly thinking about the concept of the Roman Empire, just like in general. And they've been asking their husbands and partners, brothers. No, we're not. Well, you're not. No, we are not. I know what it is. It was the empire built by the Romans.

When? In... Of course it was before Christ. Was it? No, it wasn't. Of course it was after christ was it no it wasn't of course it was uh after christ ad actually no it was definitely it was not before christ i'm just thinking the bcs the c's the eds the d's we researched it yesterday because we were being trying we're both like what's so special about it and it really was like one of the greatest like times in history the romans like that part of history they created so many things that we use today amazing like what roads love a road sanitation like literally

taking sewage and putting it like outside of the city love it yeah like kind of basic like so many tools that we use for surgery so we've made no advancements in like a trillion years no we have but i think what the what was so great about the roman empire if i'm recalling correctly is that like there was i don't know if there's been a time where so many significant medical civil like all these different types of advancements have been made in one era amazing yeah So I guess that's why people are thinking about it because it's quite amazing. So it seems like you're thinking about the Roman Empire

and you are pretending that it's millennial men and trying to gaslight me into thinking that I'm the one thinking about the Roman Empire when really it's you. I only learned what the Roman Empire was yesterday. So check yourself before you get the fuck kicked off the show, bitch. Interesting.

First of all. Second of all, what do you think the female equivalent of the Roman empire is like what are like historical events that women are always thinking about jackie and i were saying yesterday some options could be the titanic they could be um the holocaust what do you think i don't think that the holocaust is gendered i think oh wow i think uh both men and women think about the Holocaust. That's actually a very good point. I also don't think that the Titanic is gendered.

No, sorry. You're wrong on that. The Titanic is gendered. I mean, literally with this submarine, it became non-gendered. Everybody's thinking about the Titanic. Let me just say it's a submersible. And no, sorry. Titanic is for the girls.

No, just the movie. Titanic is for the girls. You're wrong. Move on. Just the movie.'re wrong what time what time period is there's gonna be a time period it could be like a historical event a tragedy i don't know okay i don't know. I'm not a historian. Well, that's for sure. Maybe the day the music died. The day the music died. They were singing. Bye bye Miss American Pie. Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry.

Rye or dry? Rye. Drinking whiskey and rye. Singing this will be the day that I die. This will be the day that I die. This'll be the day that I die. Is Don McLean dead? I was going to say, like, you are Don McLean. Is he dead?

I don't know. And to be honest, he could come up to me on the street and slap me in the face and I wouldn't have no idea who he is. I'm just saying. But I know that I'm married to Don McLean. I'm Don McLean. You literally are. Why? Like, how do i explain that

to people like you're you are don mclean i love that song i love american pie you do love that song and the day the music died is a day that women think about often oh you think well do you know what that song is about yeah the day the music died do you know why the music died no like a private plane i forget who was on the plane like some famous musicians like it went down really and that was the day the music died see i'm gonna see you didn't even know that let me just make sure i'm not making that up because it does sound like like kind of fake but what is the day the music died about i'm like fairly certain it's not what the song's called so i don't know if you oh it's not no yeah american american pie american rock and roll buddies oh musicians buddy holly richie

valens the big booper jp richardson were all killed in a plane crash near clear lake iowa together with pilot roger peterson so he was singing about his friends wow who is buddy holly because this man is very famous there There's also a wonderful song. Yes, Buddy Holly is extremely famous. Is Buddy Holly Weezer? Is that different? Oh, my God. Is Buddy Holly Weezer?

No, no, the song. The song. Oh, I thought you meant, is he like in the band Weezer? Mike Ben, he's literally- No, he's very dead. From the 50s. No. What do you mean?

You look just like Buddy Holly. Oh, yeah. Mary Tatt. By the way, you literally like made a face like I was some moron. There's a full song. In that moment where you thought Buddy Holly was a part of the band Weezer, I definitely reevaluated all my life choices. Like, that was borderline embarrassing for me and for you

well now that we cleared that lunacy up should we dive into the stories which i can't lie they're not what what it's just funny whenever it's me and jackie's not here you're always not gonna lie guys the stories they stink i honestly let's talk about that let's talk about that i hate picking the stories I had to do it yesterday. They stunk it up too. I don't know if it's just me or like whenever I have to pick the stories, nothing's going on in the world, but it's annoying. It's annoying.

And so I just wanted to let people know, like the stories are not storying today. No, we'll make them story. Of course. And Ben gets in. We'll make him sing. Ben gets into bed last night and he's like, oh my God, should we talk about Shannon? I'm like, what happened to Shannon Ford? He goes, DUI, the door. night and he's like oh my god should we talk about shannon i'm like what happened to shannon ford he goes d-u-i bador i was like first of all you're on a first name basis with shannon bador i'm just

saying everybody knows who shannon is in the current news if you literally get into bed and bring up the name shannon which by the way that sounded wrong but in the current news no news cycle literally shannon bador i mean shannon ford is one of my best friends yeah she's great works with us love her like why would i not assume you were talking about shannon ford because shannon bedore is in the news struck a building we're gonna talk killed a bunch of migrants she killed nobody what she killed nobody are you sure positive really you read that she killed migrants or you're just like trying to make a joke? Make a joke. Oh God, you're so funny. By the way, it wasn't even a joke.

You could have gone along with it. No, I was like, maybe I missed something. She didn't kill anyone. That's like why people are like gonna, you know, let this cycle out of the news. Like she's not. Yeah, I get it. Cool.

Moment ruined. Okay, sorry. Continue. What did I do? No, nothing. Like it could have just been like a you know like people talk rumors spread no but this big thing happens no the thing is is that like you sometimes believe like things and you like will misread something and so you could have gone on the rest of your

life thinking chanamador killed some migrants i didn't and i just wanted you to know that actually that was in fact not true i didn't okay well you know Well, you know, you thought Buddy Holly was in Weezer. I didn't. You did. I didn't. Let's talk about that now. Like you did. I didn't.

It seems though is, it seems as though you do spend your life though thinking, what am I, what am I potentially misconstruing? Yes. I definitely. And not just assuming that I know the facts. Oh yes. But I do. Did you feel like you just uncovered some big secret about me?

No. Like for sure. I'm just saying I know the facts. Okay. Well, let's see if you know the facts in Oh, yes. But I do. Did you feel like you just uncovered some big secret about me? No, like for sure. I'm just saying I know the facts. Okay, well, let's see if you know the facts in today's story. Great, wonderful. I did try to pick them a little tailored towards you. Very good. So are you ready, Ben?

Yeah. Is that a big problem? No, I don't think you'll be able to hear it. The baby's crying, but like we're in a house with babies. It's totally fine. Okay, cool, okay, cool. And I don't think the microphones will pick that.

Okay, cool. Are you ready, Ben? I'm ready, Freddie. Oh, wait. Are you ready, Ben? I'm ready, Freddie. Oh, wait. Are you ready, kids? Aye, aye, Captain. I can't hear you. Aye, aye, Captain.

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Exclusions apply. See site for details. All right, Ben, you ready to dive in? Before we dive into the first story, I did just get a text from Joey Kamasta. What did he say? Saying that a suit star died. What? Yeah, but I don't know who this is.

Hold on. So it can't be a suit star. Oh. I literally have no idea who this man is. Do you think Joey is pranking you? No, it's from Daily Mail. But I don't know who this is hold on it can't be a suit star oh i literally have no idea who this man is do you think joey's pranking you and you know it's from daily mail but i don't know who that is who is that person first of all very sad very sad oh he plays harvey's brother ah yes oh that's so sad it is after valiant battle with bipolar depression he was only 43 oh my god that's thank you thank you joey camasta so you enjoy camasta texts like that he dm'd me yeah just like you know he was thinking of me he

was thinking of you that's really sweet well that's a terrible story it is a terrible story it's also like a very clickbaity headline like yeah because he was probably in a lot of things he's not most probably known for suits but no not no not a star a great person you know sure but not a star of suits i'm saying i'm saying I'm sure he starred in a lot of things. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Okay, so our first story I picked for you today because I know you jerk off to Olivia Rodrigo. Okay, that was disgusting.

Sorry. She's like a... It's like also not even true. I know you just love her. Like, I can't... You guys, wait. By the way, I can't just enjoy women's music. No, you can't.

Without jerking off to it. Yeah, thank you. Now you understand. That's. What? Explain what? Now I understand what? I'm your wife.

I make music. Now I understand what? I'm your wife. Yeah. I listen to your songs too. You should be obsessed with me. I am obsessed with you. No.

I don't think you spend enough time thinking about me. Got it. And obsessing over me. Got it. I'm sure that's true. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to tell everyone a story that Ben gets in bed last night.

I was reading and listening to the new Olivia Rodrigo album. And he gets in bed and he says like, oh, I think I told this story yesterday on the toast. Ignore me. Okay, ready? What about how she plagiarized Miley Cyrus? Yeah, like you thought that was like your original. I mean, I don't know if you guys know this. It's not Hannah Montana.

It's Miley Cyrus. Really? Start All Over was after the Hannah Montana years. But a really great song that also could have been sung by Hannah. I love that song. I have like a skill where if I hear a song, I can pick up the notes from other songs. I don't know if everybody has this skill, but I'm really good at it. I will say, like I clown on you all the time. You do have that skill. I'm really good at it i will say like i clown on you all the time you do have that skill i'm really good at it yeah he'll be like this actually

sounds and he'll pull up like the most obscure song and you know what they do kind of sound like so really i can match chord progression so charlie pooth if this comes across your desk i can work with you so you're coming for charlie pooth's neck no i'm coming to work with charlie why would you want to work with charlie po? Because he makes like cool music like that, but he doesn't. Yeah, he does. What? Oh, we hate Charlie Puth. Oh yeah.

Oh, you don't know that. I literally hate Charlie Puth. You're not allowed to even remotely respect him. I don't. I like him. Get out. I like him. Get out.

I like him. No, Ben, we hate Charlie Puth in this house. Why? Give me one reason. His social media, his personality, his face. I like it. Ben, I'm in. Take it back.

No. I'll cancel good guys. No, you his face. I like it. Ben? I'm in. Take it back. No. I'll cancel good guys. No, you can't. I have that power. No, you don't. I do. No, you don't. I do.

No, you don't. I do. No, you don't. I'll cancel good guys. No, you can't. I can. You can't. I can.

You can't. I can. We'll switch people. No, no, but- Good luck. I will cancel good guys. Say that you don't respect Charlie Puth. Nope.

Ben, we're not going on with the podcast until you say you don't respect Charlielie i respect him so i can't i can't do that i can't slander another man that has a great ear for music a fellow celebrity i can't can't do it we'll just stay all made yeah we're at an impasse it is what it is give me that gorgeous pillow of theo i can't believe you're disrespecting me on my own show fine you know who i love who hitler no why would you say that that was incredibly out of pocket. It's a good transition. Who do you hate? No one. I'm a lover.

No, you're not. You hate everyone. Who? Anyone, person? You're always talking about people. Oh, I know who, but I can't say it on the podcast. Who? Who? Oh, yeah.

I love him. How does that make you feel? It just makes me think that you have bad taste. That's what I think about you and Charlie Puth. Okay, so we're even. Okay. Our first story. Zach Bia reveals whether he inspired Olivia Rodrigo's breakup song Vampire.

So Zach Bia is insisting that the song, the scathing breakup song, is not about their short-lived romance. He did an interview with GQ and he was obviously asked. I think a lot of people just, like, they guessed and then now everyone now everyone just assumes like they just believe that it's about Zach Bia. Um, he said, I don't really think it's about me. I think the internet just ran with it. We hung out, we're both busy and we ended up not furthering our relationship. There was never any drama, you know, look, I'm in the industry. So I know how a song gets made. He explained before giving props to her song, writing chops the song's so big and so

awesome look a heartbreak song for the summertime it's an undefeated formula anytime i've spent speculatively the subject of a song or the focus of a tiktok trend whether grounded in reality or not it's like i've never it's never been up to me to address it because the scale of it is so widespread 100 million people have heard this song the only thing i can address is my own life i can control what my friends think and the creative output that i have and things like that okay zach bia sounds pretty smart i want to say that was like a good quote i also think his explanation of the song like i believe that he was like we i remember when they were like spotted out it wasn't for a long period of time it wasn't a million things like i actually believe like they dated

fizzled like not everything has to be like big catastrophic drama. Like I believe his explanation that the song isn't about him. Yeah. And the song could easily be about no one. Right. Like the thing that we like to do. And by we, I mean girls. Ooh.

Ooh. Ooh. Coming for musical women. Coming for musical women. No, no, no. Coming for musical women. Coming for the women. Coming for musical women.

Coming for musical women. Coming for musical women no no coming coming for musical women coming for the women coming for musical women coming for musical women coming for the women that listen to music not the musical women is that it always needs to be oh who's she singing about who is this with when in reality these songs are typically not even written by these people i I'm sure Olivia writes her own music. I'm not saying that. But songs are just the way that Zach Bia said, you know, a heartbreak song for the summer? It's a formula. It's a formula.

You know how easy it is to write a heartbreak song? I went to the park, looked at her. She looked at me and said, I'm not talking to you anymore. And I went home and I screamed and shouted and i cried in my room until it went dark and then i came out in the morning expecting to see the sun see the sun but without her it was a cloudy day and i cried until the next one see heartbreak there's there's no there's no sun without her. Okay. I wanted to just backtrack a little bit to what you said.

Like, I think you were trying to insult women being like women do. No, I wasn't. And you know what? I think what you didn't realize, cause you're a man and you're stupid is that you really were just complimenting us.

Yeah. Like women, we're not going to like lay down and just let people tell us things. Like we're going to ask questions. We're going to inquire. We're going to investigate, like never stop asking questions. Never take no for an answer. You gonna go deep yeah like we but sometimes

it's just on the surface we're intellects sometimes a song belongs on the surface i will say like i think a lot of times when people like try to you know decode what a certain song is about by a singer who clearly doesn't write their own music like that's a big waste of your time i don't want to call people out but like we know who doesn't write their own music and we know who does so people being like who do you think the new blanket song is about it's like nobody they didn't fucking write it they just like roll rolled in and sang it but like taylor swift olivia rodrigo these are people we can definitely assume that they're writing about someone right from their own personal experience understood understood understood so what's your favorite song on

the olivia rod Rodrigo album? And when are you guys going to go on a date? I have to look at the song list. I thought you were going to say, I have to look at my calendar. I have to look at the song list. I want to key his car. I want to break his heart. Stitch you right back up.

I want to kiss his face with an uppercut. I want to meet his mom and tell her her son sucks. Yeah, I will. Okay, what's your favorite song? Oh, I like that one. What's that song? Get Him Back. Yeah, that one's pretty solid.

Which is All American Bitch is the one. All American Bitch is solid. That's the one that sounds like Start All Over. And the truth is Vampire was a single for a reason. You love it? It's good. You love it? It's good.

You want to marry it? No. Do you want to walk down the aisle at your second wedding to vampire by olivia rodrigo wow all right good to know blood sucker good to know i will not be holding your hand give me your hand bitch fame fucker that's you leading i am a fame fucker because i'm married to a celebrity it's true there's not a lot of you're gonna have my limp hand this whole time stop give me your hand hold my hand you're really second wedding you're being defiant second wedding oh my god you're supposed to be a celebrity like take it back no take a joke take a joke no well i guess today's the day the music died. Wow. Okay.

All right. I take it. I take it back. I take a joke. I take a joke. Excuse me. I'm choking. For literally every single time that you've yelled at me on this show, which I'm sure

somebody could put together a long clip of me clearing my throat. That throat clear tops them all. Wow. If anybody should be understanding,'s you i am understanding i literally just choked on my own show and you don't even ask me if i'm okay you just come and accuse i mean you're okay wow we're really on edge today okay let's let's go back to like how we were on our anniversary like we were so loving yeah sure sure let's do that all right are you ready for our next story it's an update i'm so sorry i feel like i don't know if people keep caring about this saga, but honestly, I do. Who?

So yesterday, we were praising Bill Maher for continuing to bring his show back and give the people who work on his show paychecks again. And not so much praising him for bringing his show back, but praising him for making a decision and sticking with it. Unlike Drew Barrymore, who posted and deleted five apology videos and then decided not to come back. Well, now we spoke too soon because Bill Maher has delayed the start of his show, citing strike negotiations.

So the comedian who last week vowed to put his topical HBO program back into production now says he will delay it for a little while longer. Here's what he said. My decision to return to work was made when it seemed that nothing was happening and there was no end in sight for the strike. now that both sides have agreed to go back to the negotiating table I'm going to delay the return of real time for now and hope that they can finally get all

this done all of TV's late night series have gone dark in recent months due to the strike but Mars said he would no longer stand by as so many of his below the line crew were going without pay. So I will say I appreciate his, uh, explanation. Like what we were saying yesterday is like Drew Barrymore kept releasing these statements being like, we are a global show that launched during difficult times. Like just say why you're bringing it back. Like just say, and Bill Maher, when he was bringing it back, it was very clear. He's like, there's so many people who work on the show who are not a part of the strike. They can't feed their families. And you and you know what like we're gonna bring the show back and it's gonna stink because we're not gonna have writers but people will get paid and I appreciated

it it's because we were like why is Drew bringing the show back she didn't explain now Bill Maher's not bringing the show back but I will say I do once again appreciate his direct he just posted on social media and he said exactly why I guess this whole time they haven't been negotiating with the streamers because they never got to like even a remotely like halfway point so they've been on strike not negotiating but i guess now they've returned fred dresser and bob eiger back at back at it go fran go go fran go she's the That said, like, what was his name again? Bill Maher. Bill Maher.

If people are going hungry, then why aren't you paying them now? Like, why are you waiting? No, I get it. He doesn't pay them. The networks do. But the networks wasn't going to in his fictitious scenario where they never reach. Oh. He was going to go back to HBO and continue to produce his show

and get all of his employees paid from HBO. Like everybody would go back to work for HBO. So why doesn't he do that now? Well, he said now that these streamers and networks are back to negotiating with SAG and WGA, he's going to wait. I know, but they're hungry. No, I know.

So which one is it? It's both. You see what I'm saying? No, but it is both. That's like the whole point of a strike where it's like tough decisions being made. Yeah, they are tough. They are tough.

I don't think this is anything that gets resolved too quickly. No, me neither. I feel like it's going to be a while. I didn't even know that they were back to negotiating. Well, inside baseball, now we know. Now we know. Now we know. Right?

He chose like a really bad picture of Bill Maher. Honestly, like not cool. If that was me, I'd be pissed. know now we know now we know right he chose like a really bad picture of bill maher honestly like not cool if that was me i'd be pissed um okay are you ready for our next story i am but are you ready for our next story that's brought to you by ring concierge i am are you yes because ring concierge is the leading luxury jeweler committed to designs by women for everyone ring concierge offers accessible on trend and wearable everyday fine jewelry for how the modern woman stacks and layers her pieces. Ring Concierge has fine jewelry made to be worn every day, and they create custom handcrafted engagement rings and specialize in getting you the biggest diamond within your budget.

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your fiance boyfriend's way you. It's a nice name. It is, right? Yeah. Okay. Our next story is a little plastic surgery news. Heidi Montag is revealing that she got part of her chin sawed off during her 2009 plastic surgery overhaul. So she's reflecting on her November 2009 plastic surgery overhaul, including getting part of

her chin sawed off and how it impacted her final season of the Hills with her husband, Spencer. I just, I wanted to talk about this story because if you were there, you remember in 2009, like the Hills was everything. It was everywhere. They were paparazzi pictures of Heidi and Spencer like every single day. And she had gotten like a bunch of work done on her face. And then they had this like big reveal. Ben, it was the biggest steal in the world at the time. Like when she revealed her new face and like, she did look so different, but now in hindsight, like I think we're so used to plastic surgery. Like it's really not that crazy. She like, just looks like she has like some filler and maybe like a chin implant.

Um, but if you were there, you guys remember like the, it was the craziest thing that ever happened. We were like, like people were crying. Like it was so psychotic. And I also am just excited that she's talking about it. So she had said, at the time, my surgeon was like, oh, it'll be a quick recovery, a few months. And it took me over a year to heal.

I could barely talk with my jaw. I just had part of my chin sawed off. It was really a lot just dealing with that. Oh, and she was 23. And she was so beautiful before. At the age of 23 she notoriously underwent a whopping 10 cosmetic procedures at once shortly before production picked up for the sixth and final season of the hills the surgeries performed by the late dr frank ryan included a

chin reduction updated breast augmentation rhinoplasty revision a brow lift liposuction facial fat injections and pinning her ears back among others. Holy smokes. She said, I wasn't even in a place to film. And I kept saying, I'm not a person right now. I need to heal and recover. And I'm not doing well physically. Like I'm not able to literally show up like I was. I thought I'd bounce back and be able to be on TV like I was after my first cosmetic surgery.

But there was just way too much done. And each thing took too much time. And it hurt so bad. I was just in an immense amount of pain oh my god i'd like totally have forgotten about this saga it sounds horrible horrible she sawed 10 plastic surgeries at once yeah it's tough it's tough what plastic surgery would you want to get done to your face oh you're perfect the way you are but if you you know had to my it's funny my uh co-star on good guys actually recently got the surgery and he speaks about it under eye bags bags my bags are getting really

bad they're like literally not they're really bad that's not a real problem so i'd like to get this uh this done i think no you don't need that what else would you want done oh so what do you think i need done that's a good question i think you definitely need an egghead removal surgery rude you do yeah i guess it could be i could shave it no no i'm totally kidding i i was not saying that question i don't think you literally need any plastic surgery yeah you sure there's nothing on you i would change you sure except your love of charlie po question. I don't think you literally need any plastic surgery. Yeah, you sure? There's nothing on you I would change. You sure? Except your love of Charlie Puth.

Fine. I don't think there's a surgery for that. I do. No, I don't. It's called the lobotomy. I don't think so. Yeah. I don't think so.

This is so sad, but so interesting that she's sharing that time. And I didn't realize, I thought she got that done when the Hills was over. But it was- It's a weird choice of timing. Before the final season. Yeah, and just, just i don't know trying to squeeze it in you squeeze in like a teeth cleaning you don't squeeze in a chainsaw to the chin right she said she was obviously it was obviously her choice but she wasn't aware of the repercussions including a near-death experience wouldn't happen near death they called spencer at one point during the surgery and told him i basically died and i wasn't doing well she explains that at one point her heart was beating only five

times per minute after she was allegedly administered the incorrect dose of the opioid demerol for pain relief so here's the problem i'm pro plastic surgery crazy story wait we had to have nurses at the house for months to help me recover so we're dealing with that and then we have these producers saying say this and say that and we're just like we can't do this wow this i'm pro they have a new podcast by the way so this is where they're talking about i just want to go yeah sorry you sure yeah i'm pro plastic surgery you want to get something done you get it done yeah that said unnecessary surgery presents unnecessary risks so unless it's really important really important just saying joan rivers she by the way didn't die getting plastic surgery

what should i getting an endoscopy a routine endoscopy even worse see even necessary things have risks so the unnecessary is really unnecessary just saying saying. Okay, pastor. Also. Okay, Pastor Ben. Also, I was going to ask why we're talking about this, like why this came up, and it makes sense if they have a new podcast. They have a new podcast. They also clearly have an unbelievable publicist. No, this is actually like such an interesting story, and like so sad. It is sad.

What of the work that I have had done do you like and dislike? I think that all of the work that I have had done do you like and dislike? I think that all of the work that you've had done has been quite tasteful. Thank you. And not like God altering. Right. Well, the chin was a little God altering. Why? You didn't have anything shaved.

No, I just had like the fat taken out. Okay. That's not God altering. And lip filler. What do you like about that? I feel like you don't like that. I don't. But I don't think the fat taken out. Okay. That's not God altering. And lip filler, what do you like about that? I feel like you don't like that. I don't, but I don't think you do too much of it. If you do, I just haven't noticed, but.

I haven't done it in a while. I think your lips look good. I haven't done it in a while. Yeah. So then when you have done it, I haven't liked it. So yeah, don't do that. When I have done it, I feel like you don't like the texture of my lips. They're also just too big.

They're just weird. There's no such thing. No, yeah. No, it's too much. No, your lips are, they're good good what's wrong with your current lips no i nothing which is why i i'm leaving them understood all right now we're going to talk about your girlfriend chanon oh yes another girlfriend she's ashamed she's entering counseling after her duI arrest. One. Sorry. She should be ashamed. Ooh. Two. Counseling. Like.

I hate this thing. Where. I know that celebrities. Are coached. To have to say certain things. Because they know. That's what writers. Or the public.

Or the network. Or somebody wants them to say. Like it's. I think it was Kyrie Irving. When he made those like. Terribly anti-semitic uh comments and then was like oh but don't worry i'm going to the holocaust museum to learn with rabbi schmooly yeah and it's like no like i don't believe you no it's it's like pr um strategy at

this point and i'm i'm not going to question the woman's age but an older woman a younger woman don't drive drunk. No. Like it's just, it's just so. There's literally no excuse. When Uber exists, when taxi exists, Lyfts, and when you're like a woman of means, like get a driver. No, it's also, it's just terrible.

Like I was reading the comments under this and it's like, like at first I was thinking like, oh, people are going to like be nice to her, like feel bad for her. And it's literally just comments of like, my 14 year old son was struck by a drunk driver like what are you doing what are you doing what are you doing okay so here are the details her friend jeff lewis was a radio show revealed that his close friend shannon madora is seeking treatment after she was arrested for a dui and a hit and run early sunday he said i'm happy to say that she's gonna be entering counseling this week so i'm so happy about that the flipping out star explained that Bedore called him after the incident. What does that mean?

And said that she's, quote, accepting full accountability. Who else would? Obviously. And she's, quote, ashamed and embarrassed. He said, I don't think Shannon is an alcoholic. I think as her close friend, I think she's going through a lot of personal struggles right now. And I think that she's probably has been leaning on alcohol. But I don't believe she's an alcoholic.

He also confirmed that she was in a car accident that night and got injured. But nobody else was hurt. i get it like people get a pass when they're young right i'm not being ageist here i'm just saying like when you're young you think like nothing can happen to you and you think you're invincible and then you drink and somebody makes a life-altering mistake yep and it's horrend. But when you are older, you have seen these things, you have learned, and you can't drive drunk. You can't do it. No, I agree.

You can't do it. Like, I really am not a judgmental person. I think that I'm really, like, understanding of people's flaws. And I'm sorry, there's, like, this is the one thing, like, I'm going to judge of people's flaws. And I'm sorry, there's like, this is the one thing like I'm going to judge someone to hell for. This is actually a huge thing for you. Yeah. Like if you even have like, if I have like half a glass of wine, like have nothing.

Claudia's like, no, you can't drive. No, I don't believe in like having one cocktail and getting in the car. Like, like when we're going somewhere and someone's going to drive, they'll be'll have a beer i'll be like i will not drive with you like maybe i'm a little extreme but for and i don't even know why i'd rather you be extreme i don't know why you're like i don't have a like a yeah but i'm not i don't have like a trauma connected like i just think it's so fucking stupid i know why i'm a logical person it is stupid and in this day and age when literally you could get someone to pick you up in 10 seconds on your phone, why you would get in a car drunk is beyond me. And I'm sorry, like I am judging.

I think this is shameful and I think it's gross. Yeah, agreed. And I don't know what counseling you can possibly have for drunk driving. Especially if he's saying she's not an alcoholic. No, but what is, what counseling can you have? What am I missing? Well, I guess he was saying she's going through

like a lot of personal issues. So maybe she needs to go to counseling for those personal issues. Got it. I just, I just don't know yeah no driving drunk no i like literally hate this i vomit thank god nobody was hurt thank god nobody was hurt how fast was she going she wasn't going particularly fast but she was going actually fast because she was going around a bend and when she i saw the video of of it, when the car started to turn, it came up unexpectedly

and she literally drove into a building. But how fast was she going? Let me see if it says. And how far was she from her house? Like how long was the drive she was embarking on? Okay, I don't know. I don't have her like her GPS. And how drunk was she?

Do we know that? I have no idea where she was going, but right now she's going on my list of people I'm upset with. But so nobody knows how far she was from her house. Nobody knows how fast she was driving. Nobody knows how drunk she was. If you want to go read the police report, sure, I'm sure you can figure all that out.

No, because now I also would like to know, just saying because I like to play both sides. I just want to know, was she truly drunk? Was she a little bit tipsy? And was she going five miles an hour and she was next to her house? There are some things that was- If she's putting out public statements via her friend Jeff Lewis saying she's ashamed,

I'm entering counseling, I take full accountability. That bitch was drunk. Yeah. That bitch was wasted. That bitch was driving fast. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm upset with her.

I'm upset with her. Yeah. It's no good. It's no bueno. It's no good. It's no good. And she was like posting. Was she filming?

I don't think so, but I'm sure cameras are up now. No, I asked if she was filming because then like maybe you could put a little bit of accountability. No, I'm sorry. She wasn't filming because when they do film. Yeah. Production, they always show up in Suburbans. Like production has cars for them everywhere. Yeah.

Yeah. That encourages all the women to drink. Yep. And for the show yeah so definitely and then takes them home right safely safely yep and if there was like actual producers around i don't think anybody would have let shannon get in a car yeah understood no she was definitely um understood filming understood oh i'm so mad yeah it's Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. It is our fifth and final story that's brought to you by State Farm. Ooh.

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I will retract that statement. Sorry, they sponsored the toast. What the hell? Yeah, they're ready to drink beverages. They're so good. We have them in the studio. Oh, so then we must be careful with this story. Well, no, like we're just reading the facts.

They're facing a lawsuit for a fruitless, fruit-flavored refresher drinks. So they were ordered by a federal judge on Monday to face a lawsuit claiming that several of their refresher fruit beverages So they were ordered by a federal judge on Monday to face a lawsuit claiming that several of their refresher fruit beverages lacked a key ingredient. Fruit. It's not that crazy. A judge rejected their request

to dismiss nine of the 11 claims in the proposed class action saying that a significant portion of reasonable consumers would expect their drinks to contain fruit mentioned in the names. So here are the drinks.

Consumers are complaining that their mango dragon fruit, mango dragon fruit lemonade, pineapple passion fruit, pineapple passion fruit lemonade, strawberry acai, and strawberry acai lemonade refreshers contained none of the advertised mango, passion fruit, or acai.

The plaintiffs, which are a bunch of different people, said that the main ingredients were water, grape juice concentrate, and sugar. Sorry. And that Starbucks misleading names caused them to be overcharged. They said that this violates their state's consumer protection laws. The plaintiffs are assholes. Sorry.

This is what happens in suits. No, but yeah. And they're always assholes. It's like people that are literally looking for something wrong with something to get a payday. Yeah, no, it's like an ambulance chaser. It's like people who are notorious looking for something wrong with something to get a payday yeah no it's like an ambulance chaser it's like people who are didn't hurt didn't hurt anyone nobody if you're going to starbucks psa if you're going to starbucks for your daily dose of fruit like you have other problems in your pineapple mango refresher that's a thousand calories huge problem agreed huge problem but also anything that has lemonade

at the end you know lemonade isn't a real fruit right well they're not complaining that there's no lemons they're complaining that there's no mango passion fruit or acai but i'm just saying lemonade i i i want to i if i were the judge in this case i would say you're both wrong plaintiffs you're fucking annoying go get a job instead of like you know trying to exploit major companies like just go do something else. But Starbucks, sorry, you can't be out here being like an acai refresher that has no acai.

Like that's called false advertising. It's misleading the consumer. Like, sorry, you have to do better or put fucking fruit in your fucking drinks. Yeah, but can't you also just ask as the consumer what's in this drink?

No, I'm sorry. Like we live in that type of country where like we're all just lying to each other. Yes. No, I don't think- Every day. No, I'm with- Actually, you know what? You what you're right i shouldn't because if i walked up to starbucks and i ordered a cup of coffee i wouldn't ask is this real coffee would they say

or is this you know muddled up poop it could be right like we have to have some faith in our institutions agreed right agreed but we don't i stand with with the plaintiffs. No, I don't. I don't. I don't. I stand with the plaintiffs if they came across this in a way that wasn't looking for a payoff. But unfortunately, it was. Unfortunately, it was. By the way, Starbucks was saying what you said when they wanted to get those cases dismissed. It also said no reasonable consumers would have been confused.

And the baristas could have sufficiently dispelled any confusion if consumers had questions. Yeah. They said that the product names described the drinks flavors as opposed to their ingredients and the menu boards accurately advertise those flavors. I, I don't, I don't, I don't disagree, but the the judge this is literally like an episode of suits but the judge said that unlike the term vanilla the subject of many lawsuits nothing before the court indicates that mango passion fruit and acai are terms that typically are understood to represent a flavor not an ingredient i agree with the judge no no i stand with starbucks on this one when you go

let's just bring some brands into it right right? When you go and you pick up your delicious diet raspberry Snapple. Yeah. Are you expecting there to be real raspberries in it? No. Okay. What's the difference? That these refresher drinks have like chunks of stuff in it. No, they don't.

Oh, wait. No, maybe they don't. You're just making that up in your head. Okay, wait. So that's a good, wait. Or when you get a peach Snapple, there's no peach. I think there is peach flavors. no they don't oh wait no maybe they don't you're just making that up in your head okay wait so that's a good wait or when you get a peach snapple there's no peach i think there is peach flavors yeah there's also acai flavors that's the that's what they're saying there's just no real acai there's also pineapple flavors there's just no pineapple drinks typically don't have real fruit in it they're drinks It's not a smoothie.

Is it called a smoothie? No, it's called a refresher. Okay, hold on. I'm looking up the peach tea ingredients. It's not going to be anything you want to see. No, I believe in Snapple. Of course. Doesn't mean it doesn't taste great.

Zero sugar peach tea. This is dyed peach Snapple. Where do you find the ingredients? It's going to be a bunch of stuff. Natural flavors or maybe even artificial flavors. Filtered water, citric acid, tea, aspartame, potassium citrate, natural flavors, and malic acid. Look, as a man in the beverage industry.

No, I guess the difference is with Snapple, they're all different teas and they come in different flavors. So you know that there's not the actual fruit in it because it's just flavored. These drinks are advertised as, it's literally called the strawberry acai. It's called the strawberry acai refresher. And no, there's multiple drinks.

It's called their strawberry mango, mango dragon fruit, mango dragon fruit lemonade, pineapple passion fruit, pineapple passion fruit lemonade, strawberry acai and strawberry acai lemonade. There are two options for all of these people, including you. You're a plaintiff apparently. No, I'm just saying I stand with the plaintiffs. Yeah. No, you can't because there are two options.

If you really thought that there was fresh juice in there, either it would be a smoothie, which is clearly not because it's called a refresher and they have no blenders yeah no they do have blenders two they don't oh they do have blenders okay but not for the fruit stuff no no two it would be a fresh squeezed juice i don't think that there's fresh squeezed dragon fruit you can't even squeeze a dragon fruit how do you get how do you get the juice out i think back to your original claim that like anybody going to starbucks for their daily dose of fruit like is a deeply unwell person. Having said that, like I think legally they've got some ground to stand on these plaintiffs. That's what I believe. Yeah. Agree to disagree? Oh, I believe. Agree to disagree? Oh, I believe.

Agree to disagree. Oh, I believe. Agree to disagree. Have you ever sued anyone? No. And I'm very against the whole thing in general. I've sent a strongly worded letter. I absolutely hate, I'm sorry.

I have many friends that are in this profession. I just hate lawyers. I hate the idea that we need to have them. I think there are some fantastic lawyers that are doing the right thing in a very corrupt society but the fact that i can't shake hands with somebody and my word works stinks oh you're a big fan of the verbal agreement i am a huge fan of the verbal agreement well you're a sucker see you are a sucker you're the reason of the contractual agreement see you're the reason. I'm a big fan of the contractual agreement. Yeah, see, you're the reason. And yeah, somebody crosses me, I'm going to sue their ass. Like that publicist who sold $4,000 for me.

See, because this is the world that we live in, where there are those publicists. And if those publicists simply didn't exist, then we wouldn't need lawyers, unfortunately. You're living in a fantasy. You're living in a fantasy. It's true. You run a business. Don't be dumb. Get a lawyer.

We have one. They're very expensive. Get multiple. We have multiple. They're very expensive. Ugh, after watching Suits, I be dumb get a lawyer we have one they're very expensive multiple we have multiple they're very expensive oh after watching suits i should have become a lawyer like it looks horrible but like rewarding yeah especially when you work on the right side of the law right which not everyone does in suits no and not everybody does in general so true cool what kind of lawyer would you be i think i'd want want to be. Oh, what a great question.

Like the truth is, if I'm living in a society where I could be any type of lawyer, like the suits, big corporate lawyer. Yeah, but like, do you want to do mergers and acquisitions? Like Louis Slit does finance. Harvey does. Definitely not finance. Okay. Yeah.

M&A sounds nice. M&A sounds nice. I also just like, like entertainment law. I'd want to be like a couple really big celebrities, like favorite lawyer. Yeah. That sounds nice too. Cause they only do like a couple deals a year. Like it's not.

It's also probably really fun to sue big companies. Like the jobs that these like plaintiffs, like the lawyer that they found. If you have a legitimate claim. Yeah, exactly. Cause you get a big chunk of that settlement. And then it's fun. Yeah. Like the person that came after Subway Tuna for not having Tuna in it.

That's like probably fun, but it's also blasphemy let me ask you a question subway tuna got sued because oh by the way that fucked up oh so you stand with the plaintiffs with subway of course so you stand with the plaintiffs with subway there's no world in which tuna shouldn't have tuna in it and there's no world in which strawberry acai should not have acai in it no not true because it's a flavor tuna is not a flavor it's a food but subway could argue it's a flavor no they can't yes they can yes they can but let me ask you a question so subway got sued because it was found that their tuna salad in their sandwiches didn't have one trace did that actually end up coming out as true yeah you're positive yeah you're positive then the end of it subway's tuna doesn't have tuna

i don't think that's true i think that that was a uh baseless claim that was made but subway tuna lawsuit not tuna did you just pick your nose on my show no i tried to pop my ear but it wouldn't pop okay so a woman had filed a lawsuit against subway claiming that their tuna isn't tuna it was dismissed see wow bastards coming for my tuna subway has some really really solid considering how big they are by the way did you see how much money subway just got sold for two weeks ago subway sold to arby's group wow guess how i'll ask you two questions one how many stores do you think they have? And two, how much do you think they sold for?

I think they have 40,000 stores. 21,000 stores. Okay, that wasn't a bad guess. No. And how much do you think they sold for? 10 billion dollars. I was going to say 2 billion. 10 billion.

How does Arby's have that much money? Arby's stinks and I've never seen anybody either. I'm sure that Arby's is a conglomerate that owns a lot of these. To me, this is the most interesting thing we've talked about all day. What, tuna? Arby's group. No, like the fast food conglomerates. I love QSR.

Quick serve restaurants. What a cash cow. Okay, so Arby's group is actually called Inspire Brands. And they own Arby's Restaurant Groups, Dunkin', Wendy's, See. Hold on, I think there's more.

Jimmy John's. See. Buffalo Wild Wings. See. Sonic Drive-In. By the way, you're talking about a monopoly. CC's Pizza. I don't know that one. Dunn Brothers Coffee. And Moo oh baskin robbins too wow they're killing it and mr donut which is

an international franchise i've never been in it yeah and now subway yeah you're right they're at the bottom of the list wow like i love i would love to be like a magnate of like i'd love to own a like 50 fast food chains yeah like i'd love to be like the largest mcdonald's like franchisee or something yeah it would be amazing and our mcdonald's would be spick and span oh and everyone i would do meet and greets at my mcdonald's and we all get free food how much does it cost to buy a mcdonald's i don't know does it depend where definitely and i don't know how much it costs to buy a McDonald's? I don't know. Does it depend where? Definitely. And I don't know how much it costs to buy a McDonald's. I think a Chick-fil-A franchise

is like half a million dollars, if I remembered. Okay, how much does a McDonald's franchise cost? Most McDonald's franchise owners and operators have entered the corporation by purchasing

an existing restaurant. Oh, to open a new one requires a total investment of one to two million dollars. Oh, but if you buy someone else's. Yeah. For whatever they, whatever they're willing to sell it for,

I guess. Yeah. And then you make $150,000 a year. So it'd take you like 10 years to make your money back. Unless you start a fast food chain of your own. Turdies, turdies, warm bowls.

Just saying. Turdies, warm bowls. Yeah. I feel like there would be a class action suit that would come against you for having turds and your warm bowls just saying turdies warm bowls yeah i feel like there would be a class action suit that would come against you for having turds in your warm bowls oh well no someone would like find like a speck of poop because but then someone plants it but then they couldn't sue me because i'd be accurately oh true i would are saying but interesting interesting you are turdies warm bowls i'm getting out ahead of it you're

getting out ahead of it cool right all right yeah we're gonna start a fast food chain turdies warm bowls maybe we'll work on it no everybody wants turdies warm bowls and warm bowls are you know the future interesting thank you for being here ben thank you darling i love you very much i love you too and you know i love you more oh you better i know you know i feel like we were kind of at odds this episode we weren't you just have something against charlie pooh that i won't understand and that's that you just have something against women that i won't understand this is true the day the music died cut no i have to do my outro okay cool thank you guys so much for listening to the toast the mond Monday morning show

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