The Toast - The Drama is Reale: Wednesday, April 15th, 2026

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

1. Alix Earle Drops Footage of Herself Waking Up to Alex Cooper’s TikTok Calling Her Out (Cosmopolitan) (21:09) 2. ‘Summer House’ alum Hannah Berner returns to the Hamptons for Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue (Page Six) (36:16) 3. Kelsea Ballerini Not Dating Craig Conover After Instagram Rumor (TMZ) (42:58) 4. Maura Higgins ‘signs up for huge US show with Traitors co-star’ as she continues to crack America (The Sun) (50:44) 5. Cate Blanchett to Star as Martha Stewart in Biopic Movie From ‘Zola’ Director Janicza Bravo (Variety) (55:20) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Toast Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Toast Merch ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Camper & The Counselor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lean In⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Starbucks. Starbucks baristas know their communities, and that's why every year, Starbucks baristas can nominate local nonprofits to receive grants, with more than 16,000 grants awarded to local organizations so far. So how Starbucks supports communities is led by people in those communities, because at Starbucks, making an impact together is just the start. Learn more at Starbucks.com slash partners. That's Starbucks.com slash partners. Thanks, Tudners. Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, Swirley.

It's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and Happy Humpty! Don't forget to Humph someone you love. And speaking of girls that I love and you guys know, I would just absolutely do anything to get a chance to hump. It's my sister, my lover, my life partner, my business partner, my Swirley. She's got that attitude.

Yeah, that's right. It's Miss Follet. Jacqueline Foley. Will she be given a chance to speak? Who knows? Jacqueline, motherfucker, foley. Hey, how y'all durn? How are you doing, Claudia?

Nobody ever asks me that. Thank you. That was like yesterday you asked me how I'm doing. And I, like, really had to stop and think. Mm-hmm. You know, because it's always like, it's always how you durn, but it's never, how are you doing?

It's so true. It's so true. Oh, my God. How am I doing? Yeah. I think. I think I'm actually doing quite well. Like I feel happy,

except for the fact that, like, I'm in such desperate need of a haircut. I look like I'm wearing a wig these days. And I have an appointment like next week. I just, I kind of need it to be today because it's like getting really hot. And my neck is like kind of sweaty. But other than that, like I feel like I'm doing really good.

Like I'm back in my groove in the city, you know, hitting up Central Park. I started that documentary you recommended, which is in fact created by Rick Burns. You guys, I have to issue. I think they're brothers.

So like, that's just like someone calling Jackie. Claudia and Claudia Jackie. I'm sure Rick and Ken get it all the time. I'm sure they get it all the time. So yes, it's by Rick Burns. And it's not called Central Park. It's part of his documentary on New York.

That's an eight-part series. And the Central Park piece is in episode two. It's not an entire episode, but it's a nice chunk explaining the development of Central Park. What are your thoughts? So I started it from the very beginning. You guys, it's 14 hours. Ben was like, what are we watching?

I'm like, just sit down. And so I figured, like, if I'm going to start on episode two, like, okay, I'll just start on episode one. episode one is two hours. And it's like about the Dutch, settling New York and the trade. You know, it does actually, I do find it interesting, but you have to think a lot. I was getting really tired while I was watching it just because it's not like passive, dumb. You know, they talk about how when New York, like, how did New York become, like, no matter what's happened to the city, it has just been this like intense, densely populated capitalist society.

And like, the only reason that New York works is because it's like the inventing. invention of capitalism and like how it has maintained that sort of like hustle culture since the Dutch in the late 1600s. So it is really interesting, you know, us Jews, we were there. You know, they were yelling at us. They hated us. But we were there. We were there. We were there. And how it just became this like actual melting pot of like, you know, because they were kind of desperate to get people to live there. Like the Dutch discovered it and wanted to create like a thing. And nobody wanted to live there because like there was nothing going on. And so they just to be settled.

They took whoever they could get. And so they took like a lot of Germans, a lot of Polish, a lot of Jews. Like they just took what they could get so much to the point that like nobody even spoke Dutch anymore. And then the British took it over. So yeah, I'm like really smart. And I'm watching like it's not even it's not even TV because like they're just talking and showing you maps. Like there's no like a job. It's like a book that you're watching.

It's an audio book. It's like a textbook that you're watching. It's getting, especially with the Erie Canal just is such a throwback to like social studies, you know. I haven't gotten to the Erie Canal part. You know what? You've got to get to the Erie Canal. And you know what I was thinking the other day? I feel like we say this all the time, but it's like...

You would have loved to take a social studies class right now. School is wasted on the young. So true. I would love to learn some of these facts and some of these skills, some of these math skills. Like now I'm at a place where I can receive it. Like it's crazy that we're learning all this intense information in fifth grade, things that we don't know today. And I just feel like that's a flaw in the system.

That's why I started following this guy Johnny on TikTok. He's like obsessed with just how so much history still exists in New York. And he was like, do you ever notice why certain like brownstones or townhouses have lamp posts outside? I'm like, I didn't even know that. Well, because before Gracie Mansion, if you were a mayor, they would put lamppost outside your house and light them when you were home. So your neighbors would know, like, shut up. Important works going down. Like, don't be loud.

Don't cause a ruckus. So every brownstone that has a lamp in front of it housed a former mayor? There's only like three or four in the city. Oh, so I guess no, I never wondered why that one has one or that one has one. There's a certain park. A lot of it is downtown because the city started from the bottom and then, you know, started to go up. Started from the bottom.

Now we're here. And another thing that I learned is like some of the parks, they, like the railings, like the wrought iron, like fencing is original, like seriously from the 1700s. And a lot of them, like at the top of the posts are like, they look like they've been cut off. No, they look like they've been cut off. And why? Because they used to have crowns on them. And then when the, you know, revolution happened, the rebellions were like, we're getting these nasty crowns out of here.

They sawed them off. Okay. Like, I understand the sentiment, but that's like, we're missing out on crowns in the park now. I know. I was thinking that too. Like, wouldn't that have been parjee? Thanks crazy. And they took down the big King George statue, which, like, I understand the symbolism of, but would be cool to have

now. Yeah, yeah. No, I understand. So it's just like keep that in mind when everyone's going and tearing things down, you know? Yes. No, it's like, it is a part of our history. Yeah, like, could have been cool to have crowns. But okay.

Could have been cool to have crowns in the park. for sure. We'll have stumps. It's super awesome things. And then I also landed on like central park talk about like different. And I'm sure they'll get to it in the episode too of my Ken Rick Burns. Do you ever watch Mindy project? No. So Mindy's in love with her like co-worker Danny and he's so mean. I hate this guy. And they do end up together like and then they break up whatever. But he's like the OTP and he's obsessed with Ken Burns especially like the New York stuff because he lives in New York. And so for one of his birthdays, Mindy like tracks down Ken Burns and like makes like a Ken Burns. And like makes like a Ken Burns. And like makes like a Ken Burns. And like makes like a Ken Burns. style documentary about Danny's life and he's like so undeserving of it but it does I always think of Danny when I think of Ken Burns. That's really cute. It is cute. So also to say I'm doing quite well

And you're enjoying the wreck? Can we say that? Excuse me? Are you enjoying the recommendation? Oh, I thought you meant W-R-E-C-K because I'm just sort of like literary now. You're like living in the wreck. Yeah.

Yeah. So I am enjoying the thing. the recommendaccio and I'm also reading still next to heaven which was recommended by you so you're just full of good wrecks oh wow thank you so much I didn't do anything last night because I had I really didn't feel good I had like a migraine and I was like at 930 I was like let me like rest my head and watch summer house and before I can get to my remote I'm like let me rest my head and go to sleep let me go to sleep and you know what I fell asleep immediately which never happened to me it's giving I needed it yeah yeah we needed this

I really needed it. So I didn't watch Summerhouse. Did you? No, but speaking of Summerhouse, I sent you a text this morning that you didn't respond to it. I saw it. I had this sort of like insane.

You sent it. I was still rolled over on one hand. So like I was just scrolling. I couldn't respond to things. I had this insane sort of relevatory moment this morning about Summerhouse. Like not to make everything about me. I know Mia.

I love Mia. From the show. You're just saying, yeah. New cast member. I don't think I knew her last name. And so then I'm scrolling TikTok as you know I do on my daily. Get Ready with me. I just watch TikToks.

And there was a clip, I guess Mia Callabrese discusses X, Y, and Zay. I'm like, wait, Mia Calabrese? Like, why does that name sound so familiar to me? And I was like, oh my God. Okay, so literally, like, two years ago, I was obviously, like, blackout at Zero Bond, just talking to anybody who would talk to me. And I ended up chatting up with this, like, beautiful girl named Mia. I remember her telling me she was a model.

And, like, we just, like, really connected, actually. We spoke for, like, an hour. I had, like, I don't know who she was there with. I don't know who I was there with. But, like, it was just beautiful. we ended up like following each other on social media and the next morning I was like who is this girl that I follow? Like a few days later

I was like oh she came up in my feed and I enjoyed the content like I just randomly followed her I do believe I unfollowed her like a couple of months ago big mistake on my part because I never saw her again but she was just like this sort of like soul sister that I met out in the wild and that's who's on Silverhouse I never put it together I know her

That's so funny she's your long lost sister Yes I need to follow her back That was bad I shouldn't have unfollowed her like I broke the sacred code of like drunk girls, you know? I have celebrity sons and you have celebrity sisters. Haley Seinfeld. Yep, Haley Seinfeld.

And Mia Calabrese? And who was the other one that we were saying the other day that you should go to dinner with her and Haley Seinfeld? Right, right. Who was it? Somebody help. I have no recollection of who it was. Me neither.

But I feel like it was an older woman. Probably. That just seems like your vibe. I actually really connect with older women. Yeah, you're an old soul. Yeah, I can't hang out with younger people. You watch documentaries at night. 1,000 percent.

And also I like hanging out with older people because then you are the youngest person in the room. And they're like, oh my gosh, you're so young. Oh, my God, 29? Like, you have so much living left to do. Yeah, it's really crazy how they say that. I'm like, I guess I am. Like, I guess there's a lot in front of me.

Yes. Yes, girl. Jack's, the best is yet to come. That's us being old souls, singing Frank Sinatra, watching documentaries at night. We're very young for our age, though. Actually, I was just talking. For our internal age.

I was just talking to my Moroccan friend's mom. And she listened to the Toes. Did she have any thoughts on Sabrina Carpenter's Zagruta Gate? No, actually. Did you tell her about it? No, no. But she loves the Toes and she was saying that she loves all this. She was just like giving like a lot of compliments about how much.

And she said like we have old souls. And she actually says that she could sense through the show. Like we're always paying respect to older people, you know? And it's something she really appreciates. Oh my gosh. Thank you so. much. She also said we have a lot of like Hakaratov. Hakaratov. Yeah, and I was just like nodding my head because I didn't know what I meant.

But I know it was good. Okay. Well, um, she doesn't have a little voodoo doll of Sabrina Carpenter. No. No, she doesn't. So the Moroccans are not offended? Correct. Consider the Moroccans mark safe. Okay. I mean, Sabrina Carpenter better be selling Alex Cooper, sending Alex Cooper a big bouquet of flowers. Amanda Patula better be sending Alex Cooper the biggest, most robust bouquet of flowers every month for the next year. Amanda Batula can't escape her own scandal because she's on a TV show every week and we're talking about it. Yeah, but I do feel it's definitely taken a small backseat to this Alex out because we're still in the waiting period. Alex Earl posted something, but it's not her official response and we will talk about it. But it's still actively,

it's an ongoing developing situation. And until we sort of put it to rest, Amanda has taken a Maxi. And I do think she should be really grateful. I remember when we got canceled, we were like dying for something to happen. For anything to happen. Anything. Nothing. And then maybe like a week later, it was like this big Mario. Mario. No. Mario Batali. Like, you know, workplace harassment.

Oh. That was all. Like we could not catch a break. No, we like literally, we didn't get a break. It just really had to like, we went through the entire cycle. It happens a lot where like you get, the new cycle really can wash out your scandal and it happens for you know good reasons and bad reasons maybe you're having a great moment and I think a lot of people were like up and coming in their careers and then COVID hit and it totally sidetracked their momentum so we can have positive and negative effects yeah it's just the way the cookie crumbles can I ask you a question of course that's what we do here do you want the

house tour I could take you to the first second third floor so good um me when I show my kitchen done. Is that ever going to happen? Yeah. Oh my god. The status. Oh, so my contractor heard his finger. So, my so we got pushed like two days, but he's back today, back to work. Did he hurt his finger on your job or someone else's? Not in my home. She cannot confirm nor deny. Not in my home. Oh, not your problem. At his workshop. Of course. We wish him well. We wish him well. At his workshop. And is everything okay? Yeah, yeah. I spoke to him this morning. He's good. He's coming today. It'll all be in the vlog. I'm literally so excited.

I'm thrilled to bits. Consider this your sign. Puddy, do you have any little house projects that you've wanted to do? Well, I told you we got new nightstands yesterday. And I am in a rental, so I'm limited on my, like, ability to do projects. But here, I'll say this. I've been thinking of rearranging some of the rooms in my home. Okay.

Like, I just think the room I put Ruby in is, like, not the room for him. Do you know what I mean? Why? I just like vibes. Do they all have on sweet bathrooms? Mm-hmm. Ooh. Do they all have tubs?

Mm-hmm. Ooh. Okay, do it. But what about wallpaper? Did you hang up his wallpaper already? I did. And it's like, it's not peel and stick. It's like a real mural.

And then you have to have someone like come uninstall it. And I'm just feeling like maybe I'll leave it alone. Interesting. That always reminds me of like when we were in camp. Do you know this story when Olivia and I went? to camp like fat camp for the first summer. Okay. And you moved bunks.

We were in a bunk and like two days into camp we met girls in another bunk and their counselor was like if you want to move into our bunk, you can. And I was like, oh, I would like to, but I already hung up my pictures. And we didn't move. You're kidding. A few days later, like it was so clear that we needed to move into this other bunk. Like those girls became our best friends like immediately. For life, yeah.

What are we doing in this other bunk? I took, obviously we moved and I took down my pictures, but it's like, we should have moved effort. It's like, take down your pictures. You can put the backup. Obviously, obviously. But as long as you're just like, how were you, how were you adhering your tape? It was just like I had already like settled into my place.

And you made your like collage with like your magazine cutouts. I had already settled in my place. So I always think about like, I already hung up my pictures. But it's like, don't let that stop you. That was the lesson there. Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game. Yeah. Duff's father once said.

So, like, it's never too late to take down your pictures and hang them up somewhere else. That's really beautiful. I like that. No, it was a really important lesson I think about it all the time. It's actually sort of the sequel to bloom where you're planted, yes, but also unbloom and replant where you're planted. Yeah, you can sometimes replant. If you, like, could you move a tree?

I don't think so. No, only because it's too big. But I think if you had, like, a real flower and, like, it had roots and stuff and was starting to bud, you could, like, grab all the roots and resoil it somewhere else. and it would still continue. Yeah, I think so too. So sometimes it's just like not that big of a deal. Like, you know, get comfortable moving.

Take down your pictures, hang them back up. Not a big deal. Sometimes it's a beautiful message. And it sometimes could be fun. Like redecorating another room could be fun. Yeah. And you could make Ruby's old room like a playroom. So you don't have to take down the mural.

True. Free idea. I don't have that much space, but sure. Yeah, but in there. In theory. Just to button it up. I'm feeling a little self-conscious because like yesterday, I don't like to wear my shoes.

on the show, like, because we sit comfy on this chair, and I don't want, like, my dirty, like, I have to commute. Like, I don't want my dirty city shoes on the chair. And yesterday, like, the bottom of my socks were, like, dirty, which is just giving, like, your underwear is also dirty, you know? Like, it's giving dirty fingernails. And I'm like, and I just, I want to say, like, I actually buy socks quite frequently. Like, I'm always rotating them out.

I like having fresh socks. And so my socks today are, like, relatively new, but they're, like, a little. I was, like, walking around my house. So I'm just feeling, like, self-conscious of the bottom of my feet. feet. Like in the clips, you could see like dirt. That's weird. Yeah, it felt like really humiliating. I'm sorry, you're experiencing that. So to answer your earlier question, I'm really not doing well. Oh, I see. And your hair is too long, which is the worst when that happens. And it's too thick. And people think it's a wig. I hate that. Me and my five strands. Okay. Okay, it's tramberry.

That really sucks. Do you have five strands of hair? My hair is like falling out. I like the pound yeah yeah it looks fine and it doesn't look like that the hits are coming and they don't stop coming like it won't end oh yeah it won't end I'm like fine I'll lose my hair I'm I'm I'm prepared you know this my third trip right round but like can it end I'm in my car like opening my window like goodbye hair yeah that's like not a problem I experience I feel like annoying saying that hair hair everywhere I've had enough this is my prayer that I'll die living

just as free as my air I'm ready to dive in Are you? Yeah, I guess Are you? Are you? That was like the craziest weirdest song That was a cultural reset

Come into the tree They hung up a man Who say murdered three Did you see Lisa Rina was dancing to that song Like a couple weeks ago on Instagram? No, I didn't, that's funny. It's such a sly.

Was it a remix? Because it's not really a dance song. No, it picks out. But maybe she was dancing to a remix. But like, it's such a good song. And everyone was like, Jennifer Lawrence can sing. Strange things did happen here. No stranger.

Are you a man at midnight. Oh, today is April 15th. It's tax day. It is. worst days. And definitely, like, I would never encourage anyone to not pay their taxes. You absolutely should. Like, today's a day, get your things in order.

However, it's so wrong. I don't know that there's a however. No, I'm just saying it's wrong. Oh, it's very wrong. It's just wrong. No taxation without representation. That's what they said in my documentary last night. And then they cut off the beautiful crowds.

Correct. And only hurt themselves. Women. Because the king didn't care, you know? Correct. The king didn't care of thousands of miles away. You don't have crowns on your posts. Happy tax day to everyone, for all. Happy tax day. Without further, I do dot do. Do it is time for the fast five stories that you do not do need to know. And the fast five stories that you do not do need to know are brought to you by Hulu.

Vanderpump Villa is back and this season it's headed to the English countryside at Rosecroft Park. A new playground for luxury, indulgence and plenty of chaos all under the watchful eye of one and only Lisa Vanderpump. new and returning staff along with fan favorite Miss Stasi Schroeder and celebrity mom friend of one Turdy Lou Freibush are living and working together once again. They are serving high-end guests while navigating friendships, rivalries, and temptation behind the scenes. And this season comes to the twist. The villa becomes a full-blown reality crossover event. They've got guest appearances from The Bachelor, Love Island, as we know the secret lives of Mormon wives. But they're not filming.

And more. They are filming, actually, at the van der from villa. tune in they turn every stay into its own unforgettable spectacle so pour yourself a glass of something defiant decadent because not defecate so pour yourself something decadent because the drama and the tea will be served watch the new season of vanderpum villa premiering april 16th on hulu and hulu on disney plus for those bundle subscribers terms apply watch the new season of vanderpum villa premiering april 16th that's tomorrow so get your you know tv schedule in order today's episode is also brought to you by No Bull and the All Day Knit. It's your anywhere everywhere shoe. A breathable

shoe with unmatched comfort, available in either ripstop or knit upper for on the go, the commute, long days on your feet, travel. The all day is the shoe for everyday life. Yeah, I'm at that season of my life where like I, my number one priority when it comes to shoes is just comfort. And if they're cute, that's great. But like, I need them to be comfortable. That's why I love the all day knit. They are so cute and so comfortable. So you can wear them like I would wear them out to the toast or like to run errands. But if you're doing like athletic things, like, you know, I do work out at the Sona method. They're perfect for that too. You don't have to change shoes from work to work out if you're traveling and you just like need to be like when you wear a pair of shoes

that are uncomfortable for the whole day, it can take such a toll on your body, like your back, your neck that this is 30. So I really like the noble if you're looking for a comfortable shoe, if you're looking for a cute shoe. It's knit. It's really like pargy and aesthetic and it's great for long walks. And exclusively, you know, for the toast listeners, they're offering 35% off your first order. The website is no bullproject.com. The show that I'm talking about is the all-day knit. But they have such cute lounge where I feel like it's a very cool girl brand.

Everyone on Instagram's wearing them now. So use our code DM Toast for 35% off your entire first order. That's N-O-B-U-L-L-P-R-J-E-C-T-N-B-E-T-O-A-S-T. Our code is DM-T-O-A-S-T. That will get you 35% off. noble project.com. Thank you, Dr. Turt. You're welcome.

Our first story, Alex Earl drops footage of herself waking up to Alex Cooper's TikTok calling her out. So Alex Earle in her first move really on the board of this beef, on the beef board, she posted a TikTok video saying this is how she woke up on Monday morning after Coachella. And it's a video that her friends took of going into her room. Sally. And Ashton. I didn't know who the people were.

They're all wearing hoods and whatnot. Yeah, they're like hungover. And they go and they wake her up and they show her the video in bed and they record her watching it. Now, I just want to say, like, they could have waited until she woke up. Like, I hate people waking up other people, especially for like something like this. Well, yes, but Alex would have watched it on her own. Like, she would have just, like, checked her phone.

And I think they know her well enough to know either for the vlog or the reality show that, like, this is something she would have wanted filmed. I think they, like, use their judgment to wake her up. And, you know, she posted it and ended up, using the video. So I think that they were right. Yeah, for sure. It just like hurts me. Of course, Monday after Coachella like so hungover, broken. It must have been like noon though because the other girls were up. Yeah. So what do you make of this? Um, so she needed to act. And while this isn't like the response I was looking for, it's better than nothing, although I do feel like time is like a little

like sensitive right now. So I think this bought her a little bit more time because it's something. I do think this has also furthered a theory that people have that the two are in cahoots, this whole thing is staged, and that Alex is the guest on Call Her Daddy this week. And I need people to stop saying that, one, because it's not true. And two are like, well, Alex usually drops a trailer on Monday for the episode on Wednesday. She didn't drop a trailer. She did.

And it's a guest nobody cares about. It's like some therapist. And that's why you haven't seen it. Like the episode's coming out tomorrow, like, or today, today, Wednesday? Maybe if I'm wrong about this, like, I'm happy to eat my words. But the idea that these two are in cahoots and this is some sort of like brand. partnership launches the dumbest thing I ever heard. By the way, the dumbest thing I ever heard.

They did work together. It didn't go well. Why they think she's going on call her daddy to promote Rayall active east? Like, why would she ever give an interview to Alex? Like, the time for that past, that's the big, they're doing, blowing up their, like, this whole thing to sort of an interview. Like, are you guys okay? Alex's episode is already out and seemed like, it's just with the doctor, Esther

Perel. So, like, no one is talking about it. It's so not what's happening. And if you've been following from this. these two relationship from the beginning, which we have, there's no way in fucking hell. Alex Earl would ever not only put herself in a position to be interviewed by Alex Cooper ever again,

but ever give her the time of day, ever be in the same room, like they, it's so real. It's not like this popped up out of nowhere. Yeah, it's so real, first of all.

Reality. She's not going to like share her big moment with Alex Cooper and give it to her. Like anybody who's saying that isn't paying attention, isn't a serious person and is there's just their pickers off. don't trust them. Like, and that's such a guess, people love to say it. It's fake. It's PR.

Like, meanwhile, they think that. Jalina. Nickelandria's real. Like, sorry. Yeah. So fucking true. Oh my God. So that I won't.

And by the way, if I'm wrong about that, like I will eat my words, but I know that I'm not. I know I'm not wrong because I've been paying attention since day. This is so real. Now, I did see the video of the nails and the pimple and the girl in the sunglasses. And so I don't think that means that this is. The girl in the sunglasses is obviously Alex's friend, Laren. I don't think that this is fake. But yeah, I think she like maybe recorded it sooner than she posted it or whatnot.

But she did say happy Monday. Monday. Maybe it was recorded last Monday. I don't know. Maybe it was recorded last Monday and she wanted to post it. But she was like, you know what? Let me sit on it. And then she decided to post it.

So she just waited until the next Monday. So the video because like recording a video like that, maybe she thought it was perfect and she didn't want to re-record it. Like. Yep. And she just wait. So you just wait and you do sit on it. You don't just say that at her level.

You don't just like rip that and post it. Yeah. So my only real concern is like I feel like Alex Cooper posted the video because she really believes that she like Alex Earl has nothing on her. Because when you do open make the video, you open the floodgates. And I think she can, you know, you can always sense like as an internet personality like when the internet is with you and the internet is not. And we've been talking about how like the internet has sort of decided that like they're

over Alex Cooper. And so just putting. herself in this position with somebody who's so beloved is a risk. So I can't imagine she would have done that if she has some big, dark secret. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't think it's like this big, huge thing. I think they worked together. It was not a fit. There were small things that happened. And then Alex Earl like left unwell with a bad taste in her mouth, especially when the article came out that they dropped her. Like then she was completely done. So when she sees things on the internet of people poking at Alex Cooper, she engages because that's how she feels about her. Yeah.

Knife, knife, knife. And now Alex Cooper is like, well, what's the big deal? And so it's like, oh, I guess I was just like fucking with you because I don't like you. Yeah. It's not like a big thing. I think this is exactly what I think happened. And I feel like I'm right. Alex Earl blows up.

It's sort of like obvious that one of the next things she should do is go and call her daddy. Alex Cooper never calls. Alex Cooper is obviously threatened by this younger version of her. They're both named Alex. They're both like involved in barstool. Like Alex was one of those. don't know the saga, they can't tell them apart. Yeah, exactly.

They're the same name, same job, same hair. Same base. They both have like roots in bar stool, like barstool smoke show, lots of sports, dating athletes. Like they're the same version of each other. And Alex Cooper worked hard to get to where she is and she sees this young. And she's not just going to platform her without getting something in return. She's not just the type of woman who supports other women like that.

I think that's become pretty clear, right? Like she platforms them so she can benefit from it. So it almost, I remember at the time, it's like, why hasn't Alex Earl been on call her daddy yet? like obviously Alex Earle would do it. It's a huge podcast. Alex Cooper has her on, but only to announce that Alex Earle now has a show on Unwell and she's going to be going to the Unwell events.

So it's like, yeah, I'll prop you up in benefit of myself and my company as well. I think Alex Earl and her had a lot of the same team members. Like we talked about publicist agent who encouraged her to do this. Her dad wasn't managing her at the time. I think also Alex Earl was a fan of Call Her Daddy. So she was very excited to be a part of this.

I think the process of filming their episode together was negative for Alex for a couple of reasons. She was in this deal. She gave it her all. She did like one or two events. Alex Earle starts getting bigger, eclipsing Alex Cooper.

Doesn't make sense that she's on this network. Alex Cooper is like, I'm the big dog. No, I'm the big dog. Come to my event. Come to my brand. The publicists, it's getting weird. It's all ego vibes. Alex Earl, I think, also didn't enjoy doing her podcast.

It wasn't a right fit for her, not only out unwell, but just as a platform. That's not what she should be doing. So she's hating it. She's hating the company. She's probably giving less energy. She doesn't want to go to Alex Cooper's events anymore. She doesn't want to post

for Alex Cooper's this anymore. And so it gets more and more contentious. And I think they come to an agreement that Alex Earl can stop doing her podcast and whatever. And as they're coming up with a plan for how to announce it, how to sunset it, how to change it. Alex Cooper takes control of the narrative, releases a statement, Unwell has dropped Alex Earl.

Nobody believes it because of all the Unwell shows. That's probably the last one you would cancel. None of them are particularly successful. And Alex Earls, which wasn't even a terribly successful podcast, was the most successful out of all of them. That, I think, is where they, Alex Earl decided she really hated Alex Cooper. Up until that, it was just like bad vibes, ego's conflicting. I'm too big for this.

I don't want to go to your event. I'm not getting paid enough. Why am I here? No, I'm the big Al. No, you're the big Al. No, I'm the big Al. All vibes, all ego. Just like, you know, women in the workplace type of drama.

But then I think she feel like Alex Cooper really crossed the line, just going rogue. They might have had a plan to announce Alex Cooper went rogue and took the narrative, release a PR press release. We've dropped the show. And it's like, well, excuse me. Maybe there was more behind the scenes. I think that that is big picture, what happened. And that's very hard to make a drama video about because it's all vibes.

I agree. There was nothing said or written in an email. There's not going to be a receipt where like she's being a nasty bitch. I think everything was done very covertly, subliminally. So I agree. So then she posts this video for waking up at Coachella like not knowing what she's watching and like laughing about it. She thinks it's funny.

She's like, oh, this is the best day of my life. Like I'm sad. What did she say exactly? At the very end, she goes, I'll tell you exactly what she said. She like starts watching and she's like, is it funny? And she has like a smirk on her face. Yeah. Oh, this just made my day.

Interesting. Let me tell you how many views the video has. So while I'll say, it's not like my favorite move. I do think it succeeds in sort of like making a joke of the whole thing. Like Alex Cooper comes on like so serious like parking lot at three o'clock. And like Alex Earl's just like with her friends like laughing about it. So I think it's sort of. like unbothered hallelujah.

Sally. Wait, that literally just made my whole day. That's what she said. Get you a friend like Sally. I agree. It's also quite masterful, like making such a joke out of it. Like Alex Cooper was so serious talking to camera. And Alex Earl is just like in a house with all of her friends of which she has so many,

which is a criticism of Alex Cooper. She's so many friends. She's so fun party. And it's like, oh, this like, you know, serious. I do think it is also a good move. however it's not enough for me I need more yeah so it's not the move that I would have made but she's like younger and and right and she's very Gen Z like yeah and so it's kind of like funny and it takes like the sting out of it and the seriousness and it's like you would have thought but she keeps

responding to comments like I'm on it when we saw the video we were like oh my god she's definitely shitting her pants and now we see and she's like laughing with her friends like yeah and that was her real first reaction um I don't remember I need an oh sorry She keeps responding to people because people like, well, this is great, but I still need the tea. And she says, I'm on it. I'm on it. So confirmed more is coming. This isn't her, like, official response.

And I do feel like she has until the end of the day today, for real. You think? I think she has still the end of the week. I don't think so. Because what? If she hasn't released it end of the day today, then it just clock starts tomorrow. Like, you're not going to be like, well, she lost. No, she hasn't lost, but like, I need to know.

She has still the end of the week. What's today? Wednesday? Yeah. I will keep you here all night. We can't keep them. here past four. And then we need the Get Real with me with Papa Earl. Sophia Franklin. It could be like the publicist who now only works with Alex Earl. Let's have

like a rotating. Yeah. And then we need to talk about chicken fry who has inserted herself into this drama via Dave Portnoy. She messaged Dave Portnoy saying Lix is going to destroy Cooper. And Portnoy shared that with chicken fries blessing. Then chicken fry posted on her Instagram that she just got in the studio and like let it rip let a rip you're supposed to come out on Saturday she might release it early she hates mean girls I just want to say I just want to say like the new like I hate mean girls is like and I do want to say I think becoming a trope it's like there are a lot of the word moist it's like okay very obvious yeah that's so true you know I love mean girls there are a lot of really valid criticisms about Alex Cooper I don't think you could call her a mean girl because

like she doesn't talk to anyone to be mean to them like she's very insular No, the criticism, and it's true. Like, all the podcast girlies, like, Paige, Hannah, everybody knows each other, everybody's friends with it. Everyone likes each other's videos. Like, it's very not to be like so. It's women supporting women. It really is. Like, there's very few beefs within the circle as far as I know.

Alex Cooper from day one has, you know, thought she was better than that. She doesn't engage with anyone. She has no friends in the industry. And I do think that that is a very valid criticism of her. I think she also is like a very pro-woman platform in person, but like in a very hypocritical type of way, Gleb. Gleb. And what was the other one?

Oh, Jakoda. I think she's pro-woman when it can... She walks to walk, but she doesn't talk. She talks to talk, but she doesn't walk. Yeah. Yeah. And so all these criticisms, I think, like, we could talk about them. I think there's a boatload of criticisms you could talk about when it comes to

Sophia Franklin of it all. But mean girl, I don't know. And I think so, I think I'm not, I don't need to hear from Brie. I think Brie is biased because of the bar. Yeah, so let's talk about Brie. What's Bree's beef? Now for me, it feels like Brianna chicken fry should have gone on call her daddy when the Zach Bryan. But she went on hot mess.

But she went on hot mess. Yes, with Alex Earle. She went on Alex Earle's podcast. It's probably a very, well, you know, good performing episode for Alex. So did Cooper not want chicken fry on or did chicken fry not want to go on Cooper? And if it said chicken fry didn't want to go on Cooper, then there's a preexisting beef. But if, yeah, they're both from barstool. They both are like, you know, Dave's best friend or whatever.

Like, I imagine that there's a lot of, like, that's what I mean. She's pro-woman, but every woman she's in a space with, like, she doesn't really work well with. Yeah. So I don't think, again, with Brianna Chicken Fried, I don't think there's, like, a big Alex Cooper fight. I think that, like, Alex thinks she's too good for Barstool and the women of Barstool. Like, it's the same thing. But then Alex signed Grace. So that was, like, her very clearly putting her steak in the ground and taking aside.

Sorry, thank you for reminding me of that. Brianna definitely hates Alex a lot because of that. Yeah, that was like, just like, you know, dropping Alex Earl, that was like the moment of hatred. I think for Chicken Fry, that was the moment of hatred. But like, what preceded that and why didn't Chicken Fry go and call her daddy when the Zach Bryant stuff was coming out? Because, like, that is what Call Her Daddy does.

And Chicken Fry had a story to tell. So I don't know. I wonder who was the one who didn't want that. Yeah. So in terms of people I need to hear from, I will be sat for Miss Chicken Fry, of course. But that's not who I immediately thought of. But like, yeah, give me more context.

Alex Cooper is also very, like I said, she doesn't hang with the other swirlies. We know nothing about her. She's not an influencer. She doesn't share her life. Her podcast is about other people. So we actually really don't know anything about her or what she's like or her personal life. So any person who can provide context as to personal experiences they've had with her, I do think that would be helpful. Yeah.

Yeah. And I wonder what chicken fry will say. Maybe she'll share her own personal story because she's certainly not going to share Alex Earls at this point. Like we're waiting from Ms. Earl herself. But everybody's like saying and. doing and not releasing and I'm tired of it. Yeah. But it's giving me time to process, you know?

Like I had a brain yesterday. I wouldn't have been ready. Oh, yeah, that's true. So I feel like I definitely feel more prepared to, like, and my kitchen's happening today. So like I'll feel like I can watch that. So Licks, if you are going to release something, I just do request you either release it like super early morning or like four or five o'clock so we can digest it. Yeah.

Go to sleep and the morning record it. Yeah. Yeah. But releasing at like 11, between the hours of like 11 a.m. and 2 p.m., not fucking cool. I know. But she's out hopefully on LA time. Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story? No, this is the only thing I want to talk about. Well, this is some adjacent news in a couple of ways. Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue drops a couple new models, including podcaster, Hannah Burner, friend of Licks, Zandra. Licks commented on Zandras. Yes, they're cordial. They're cordial. And I do think like Alex doesn't want to be perceived as like not a girl's girl or whatever. Right now it's a century of time. Even if her and Zandra hate each other, like she's allowed to have one falling out

with a person. This girl, of course, but the internet uses everything against you. For me, as someone who's like, I just feel like very unbiased on matter. Like you can have one enemy. Like that's a house full of friends. Like you're a house full of friends. Like you're friendly person. But right now Alex Earl is at a place where they don't care. Like no criticisms of her will be tolerated. Like TikTok loves her. I've never seen anything like it actually. They love her so much. Like they

have taken her side before they know anything. Like they love her. That's beautiful. I mean, I love her. I love her. It worries me a little bit, you know? I know because there's only one place to go. Yeah. But I will always like that's my girl. I love her. Well yeah, you're not fickle. I'm not fickle.

I've been in day one Alex Earle like mega fan. And I've been in day one Sally Stan. You know, I was majing yesterday with the girls. We were talking about this drama, of course. And it was funny, they also love Sally. She's so cool. She was that my best dress to Coachella.

She's not going to make character. Yeah, I didn't even know that there's like a Sally, like, fan club. I don't even think I'm the president is what I learned yesterday. No, do you even follow Sally? No. I actually encountered her social media the other day. I didn't even really know what she looked like. She just like cracks me up with her 24-hour birthday.

She's like the energy, it's your bunny. And she's hysterical and she's a good friend. She's a good friend. And I think that's a good message. Like an energizer bunny with a heart of gold. So I didn't realize that like she has her own stands and like I'm not even the biggest fan of hers. Do you know about Sally's sprinkles?

No. She brings like a jar of sprinkles everywhere she goes and like she puts it in people's drinks like in their food like rainbow sprinkles. And now she's gotten like really creative like finding like crazy colored and shaped sprinkles. She's such a queen. It's such a cutie thing to do. She's such a cutie too.

I think she's also short and I think I just like short people. Yeah. Like Sabrina. Yeah. You know, like shorties. We got to stick together. Like us, yeah. Okay, so here's who dropped Sports Illustrated so far in the next rollout of the month's long rollout of One magazine.

It's insane. Hannah Burner. Remy Bader. Nina Ogdahl, new mama. I love that. I know you like hate her. I know you hate her. I don't hate her.

She's just not my favorite character on Paul American. Okay, but like I love them. Okay. Zandra. Where's Utah? And then there was one other, but I need to get the name. But there you go. Yeah, this is like the influencer sector.

They filmed it in Montauk, like hilarious. I am so happy for Hannah-Berner. But it also makes me wonder, like, what about Paige? What do you mean? I don't think they do everything together. Well, I think they have, like, different paths that they like to walk down a little bit. And they also have different, I think, goals for themselves individually, but also as a duo. I don't think they always want to be a package duo.

I think that, like, Sports Illustrated is actually very Hannah, because she is, like, an athlete. Yes, yes, yes. And so being in the sports world, it works for her. And I don't think, like, Paige has dreams of, like, being a bikini model. I think she's very, like, fashion. Mm-hmm, business. Yeah, so I think this, this is great.

I'm so happy for Hannah. She looked insane. She had posted that this is, like, extremely out of her comfort zone. And I don't know why. She's a bang and bod. She looked great. Yeah. This was, I wasn't expecting this, like, drop.

I didn't know that, I thought the drops were over and we were just waiting for the cover. So I didn't know a drop was coming. And I didn't know that they were going to slay like that with Hannah Berner. Like that was really party. Yeah, very, like, exciting and something unexpected. And I really do enjoy the unexpected. Agreed. Like, of course we knew Zandra would be there.

I think Remy Bader was, I didn't know that was happening, but it doesn't feel like so out of left field. So random, you know, like that's a great get for her and for them. And it feels very on brand for both of them. Where Hannah just, like, shocked me. I don't know why. Yeah. Yeah.

In a great way. In a great way. I'm so happy for her. I thought that was great. And I just need to know who's going to be on the cover. I know. And like the more girls they put out, like the more, the higher chance it isn't being Whoopi Goldberg.

Right, because just like by default. Yeah, no, because it's like, say like there's a million girls in the world, say. And like, Whoopi Goldberg is one of them? Who did I say it was going to be? Like one of the Olympians? I kind of, I just want to say, I think Utah is a great guess. You think they would put her on the cover? I don't think they put her on the cover.

Because she's like not. not American people like know her um well they should get to know her yeah she's a great girl yeah so i just the odds are increasing for what we go where like if we're on like it's true uh poly market yeah that's the sort of bet i want to participate in 1,000 percent i think i'm gonna win um but like seriously sports illustrated like tick to tick to talk get to the motherfucking point like you're you bought yourself another couple days with Hannah, Burner, like, I'm sat once again. But let's go. But let's go. What if we just went? No, it's insane. We were reporting on this for weeks. I can't believe, I thought the drops were

over because we stopped dropping them. And it better be the most amazing cover. One cover. I just want to say, I have kind of high hopes because these rookie like drops have been really good. I feel like every time we're talking about, I'm like, oh, I never thought of that person. And they've covered all like athletes, Mamas, models. Next one, I want like a baby breastfeeding, but like, no, not just, I don't want the baby in an amazing suit. I want like a mom breastfeeding her baby.

That's beautiful. We're a pregnant woman. We have some pregnancy, but put a pregnant woman on the cover. You know, I'm waiting for that because they love to like check a new box. And so that would be really cool. We've got the influencers Remy, like crushed.

Now just give it. Or also another amazing cover would be Brooks and her sisters. Like the Nader Girls would be like an iconic cover. Has Brooks been on the cover? She's always in the issue. Right. And she hasn't been yet, right? Yes, she was on the...

Oh, she was just the most recent, like 2023. Yeah, of course, with the Big Bengals. Okay, but now we're ready. We weren't ready then. Oh, and then they remember when they had like the seven women on the cover, the models, not even in bathing suits in... No, I don't remember that. Well, it was extremely forgettable.

Are you ready for our next story that needs to be discussed? Yeah. In no biblical sense. Word on the street is that, Craig Conover and Kelsey Valerini are dating. Now, this just came out on a random Instagram. I'm literally shaking. I'm shaking.

I need this to be true in such a deeply real way. So here's the thing. TMZ is saying that it's not true. But that like, I don't know that TMZ like knows what's going on in Charles. On a real way. Yeah. Let's talk as if this is potentially true. Now, I guess like we could just find out.

I know. I actually asked Ben if I could ask Craig. And he was like, yeah, but then I just felt like such a thirsty loser and I stopped myself in my tracks. Like I almost did. I also like I also could have texted Kelsey even though I'm much more likely to text Craig because he's like Craig is like just like a reality story. You know like Kelsey's like of course. Yeah. And Ben was like, yeah, do it.

But I had to stop. I had to control myself. Like I just. And like I don't want to know if it's not true. Like I want to live in this. Well, I think it is the perfect pair. I do think that Kelsey is really similar to Paige in a lot of ways, especially when it comes to work.

And that was such a source of contention for Craig and Paige in their relationship that I actually don't think it's a perfect match, although I really want it to be. I actually disagree. I think Kelsey perhaps has been similar to Paige, but knows now that she wants to like settle down and get married and have kids. So like Craig would be right for that. But I worry that Craig is too similar to Morgan Evans.

Why? I just feel like they're the same sort of vibe of like, hey, I'm ready to get married. Like, wife you up. Let's go. I need them to actually like be together forever. I think it's so amazing. There's actually really cute history here because in the early seasons of Southern Charm, there was like a bachelor auction where like Craig was up for a date with him.

And like she bid on a date with him $2,000. Yeah. And at the time, we didn't know who else about Irene was. But she has told the story that she was like playing a local gig and they like, production worked her into the scene and had her bid on a date with Craig. I don't think she, like, won the date, but she's in the show, like, raising a paddle to go on with Craig. So if they wound up dating after that, that would be so perfect.

Also, she was living, like, in Charleston for OBX. She's, like, very familiar with Charleston. And I do think... Although it might be, like, too close to home for the previous relationship. I'm not trying to be a nice heir. But I do think they're both, like, at... This could be, like, right person, right time right now, because, like, they both want something serious.

I think she would be so pleasant. surprised with him because he's not like a philandering piece of shit. No, he's so like boyfriend material. Yeah, he really is. And if she's ready for that, like I think he would love her as well. And I know that we're like taking this random Instagram accounts word for it. And there's no proof, nothing. Do they even follow each other on Instagram?

Okay. Like I feel like it's so fake news. Like somebody just decided to dream this up and hurt our feelings. Yeah, it's like, I feel like we're being pranked. Craig. She doesn't follow him. I just want to say, even if they're not dating, I feel like this might be the sort of thing that, like, would at least connect them where they like, some one of them sends it to the other and been like, L-O-L, and then they could start talking. Should we talk about how funny this is over drinks?

Yeah. Like, I feel like this just put the idea in both of their heads. He follows her. It was sort of like when Craig and Paige and Rachel and Matt broke up and everyone was like, like Craig and Rachel, Craig and Rachel. And it turns out they couldn't date because they, like, knew each other already. But if they didn't have that preexisting thing, like, they probably would have been like, should we, like, go on a date? So I think Craig and Kelsey should go on a date.

I think that if I'm the casting director of Watcher Happens Live, I'm putting them both on Watcher Ups Live at the same time. Like, that's a great way to meet someone. That's how Jenny McCarthy met her husband. No, I'll really be bummed out. No, I know it's not true. So it's like that's kind of booing me back down to reality. but it's just disgusting that it's not. Yeah.

I sat on parks. I'm scared to find that. You should ask Craig, but I'm like scared to find it. I want to like live in this bliss. I know. I know it's not true. That's partially why I didn't ask it.

I think they would actually, are both like kind of sensitive. Yes. But are two people who are both like sensitive like that like supposed to be together? No, let me tell you. I feel like Ben and I are a great example of like I'm rock hard. And he is so sensitive.

And he's rubbed off. on me, like made me soft, and I feel like I've really toughened him up. So it's kind of a perfect balance. Like what happens when like two sensitives are together? Misery. Just fucking misery. Okay. Let's just like see what happens. Oh, please. Crate of the Lord. Yeah. Let's get to the rest of the story, shall we? That are brought to you by Pepsi and their new probiotic cola perchance. So Pepsi is just a beloved brand in my household. Fun fact about me, I actually prefer Pepsi when it comes to beverages. I think it's the most delicious best tasting soda out there. And I love their new product. It's a Pepsi prebiatic cola. So if you're looking for a cola that delivers,

Pepsi prebiatic cola is just that. Nothing beats that great Pepsi taste. It's delicious. It has three grams of prebiotic fiber, only five grams of sugar and just 30 calories. It's got no artificial sweeteners. So it honestly tastes just like Pepsi, but with so much more to love. I've tried it. I've loved it. It's Pepsi prebiatic cola and it comes in two flavors. So we've got that original Cola and cherry vanilla. Again, say, I like the original because like I said, I'm obsessed with the taste of Pepsi, not lying about that. And Ben loves cherry vanilla. Ben loves like flavored soda, especially in like the cherry slash vanilla, like old school deli type of flavors. Um, so Pepsi prebiotic cola, check it out if you haven't. If you are into prebiotic soda or you just

like Pepsi and want like one with more to love, check it out. It's Pepsi prebiotic cola. It comes in two flavors. And again, it has only five grams of sugar and just 30 calories. It has no artificial sweeteners. And then they've added that three grams of prebiotic fiber. And if you want to try it, use our code 20 prebiotic to get 20% off of Pepsi prebiotic cola from now until May 30th. So go out and try it. It's the Pepsi prebiata cola. And our code is 20 prebiotic for 20% off when you buy it on Amazon now until May 30th. Today's episode is also brought to you by Hillhouse Home.

You know the brand that invented the viral nap dress. It's the most flattering and comfortable fit with the signature smocking. I am like for me pregnancy postpartum was a gateway drug to Hillhouse. Now everything in my house, I've got baby clothes. I've got homeware. but that nap dress was the thing that got me into it. It's beloved by celebrities. Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodriguez, and Hathaway, Mindy Kaling, my girl,

have all been spotted in their viral nap dress. And one of my favorite things about the Hillhouse dresses is how easy and versatile they are. You could wear them running errands during the day, but then you can also dress it up with jewelry and heels at night. They've made a commitment to style and comfort over at Hillhouse, which I really appreciate.

They've got great pajamas. The bathrobes are insane. Great for all ages. Michaela and her mom, Olivia and her daughter, Michaela, like cutest matching Hill House dresses. So they've got a lot of Mommy and Me matching. They're a long-time sponsor of our show. We wear their dresses all the time.

And I actually wore one to Ruby's Briss. Yeah, that's right. So if you want to get 15% off your first order of $100 or more, do it at Hillhousehome.com and use our code toast. Again, that's code at T-O-A-S-T for 15% off your first order of Hillhousehome. They also have great homewears. So anything that you might need, check out Hill House Home. It's such a great.

The vibes are pargy. The patterns are really like girly cottage core very on brand right now, very, what are they calling it? Coastal grad. Hillhousehome.com. Our code is toast, T-O-A-S-T, for 15% off your first order of $100 or more. Thank you, Hill House Home for sponsoring today's episode.

Thank you, Tertesode. You're welcome, Jerdasode. Our next story, word on the street is that Mora and Rob are going to be on the next season of Dancing with the Stars. I also heard Taylor Frankie Paul was set to be on it. Of course she was. And of course she's not.

And now apparently they're recasting her with Mora and Rob from traitors. Love. I feel like for so long, dancing with the stars was like the best kept secret. Like you could not find out. There were no leaks ever. But I feel like now it's because it's so popular.

Like you can't avoid it. For a while they were kind of like irrelevant. And I feel like these leaks are like good for the show. It gets people excited. Moran Rob is a great, great casting. Yeah, they're on the Dylan Ephron circuit. Right. Like the post-traders high.

Yeah. Where do you go from here? What a Dylan Ephron do after this? He's on, um, I think he's, going on another show. He just like does the circuit and they keep inventing like new shows so you can like just keep doing stuff. It's a never ending gig. What's the one that's coming on Netflix? Yeah like one of those challenge type of shows. It's like a melting pot. House of Meenies. Yeah. Like the something like yeah. So I think he's doing that and then he'll do special forces. I think he's doing that. Yeah. I'm I just want to get back

into like my Maura Hagan's vocal stems like I need her to talk more on public television so like we can have funny things to say. Trya! Yeah. I love her. I think she'll be great. I think she'll be great. I wonder if she's dance. I know. I feel like she gives me that sort of like awkward, lanky vibe. But I thought Alex Earl would have that too and I was wrong. So. Oh, and also not to bring it back to Licks versus Lex, but like people are saying also some dramas like with Whitney Leavitt, like Alex Cooper had her on and was like you should have won and like she's competing against Alex Earl. Yeah. I think people are more hooked on the circus. Britney Spears thing for Alex Earls.

That one theme of one week of Dancing with the Stars was anthems. Like, do you choose a song that represents your life? And Alex Earls was circus. All lies on me in the center of the ring, just like a circus. It's a popular song, but it's definitely like random and niche. And it was Alex Earls for the moment. And then Alex Cooper did one of her events and made one of her like crazy reels. And it was to circus by Britney Spears.

I don't think that's a smoking gun. A lot of people are like obsessed with it. And I remember at the time people being like, this is a thing for Alex Earl. I actually don't. And I'm like, I just, and I want it to be because I want this not going to be

like big and juicy. But I don't, I don't. I think it sort of just goes back to them being the same person. Big Al, Barstool, blonde, big boobs. Likes Bernie Spears, likes the song's circus when they feel like they're in the center of the ring and everybody's watching them.

It's so true. That is a core issue here. Yeah. Like, East Coast girls. Like, they're just the same person. It could just be like parallel thinking. So I agree. I'm not going to, I don't think she was like.

And what. would she even be proving with that? Like, well, I'm going to copy her dance to the star song. Like, you look like a loser then. And yeah, and not only that, like, I believe the event she was like at making video was in Vegas, which is like known for Cirque de Soleil and known for Britney Spears. Like, I just think it was a good song choice. I wish it was more than that.

Like, I'm with you guys. Like, I want to be. And, like, even if it was more than that, like, what is she trying to say? Like, I can play the song too. Yeah, sure. We know. It's just a song. Like, I don't think there's a message there.

And I also think, like, had she known, she wouldn't have chosen the song if she thought, because, like, Alex girls was better. Yeah, like she's on television dancing. Right, and you're making a real. Like, you're not the same. So I think actually choosing it, it's like, oh, I didn't even know she was dancing to that because I'm not in attention to her. Yeah.

And do you feel like Alex Cooper has been like really active on Instagram ever since then? In what sense? Like posting like lots of stories. Because like I said, she's never shared really anything about her life. Yeah, but she's still not shared. What did she post? Like shit, you know, the dog or something. Like when in doubt post your dogs Amanda Batula.

Yeah, I do want to say though, like please stop posting your dogs. Like we don't care. It's there really people are like hiding behind their dogs like all the time. Animal shields. Just know if I'm posting a picture of my dog, it's because like I have an apology video to post or like a brand deal to post. Like it's filler content. It's true. But sometimes Bruno is just too darn much.

Sometimes. If other people are posting their dogs like they have. have nothing to say and they're in a bad spot. If I'm posting Bruno, it's because he's a precious angel who found nature's heating pad. He found nature. I only posted when he finds nature's heating pad, okay when he's basking in the sun. Okay.

Bruno, get in here. Does he didn't come to work today? No, he didn't. He has a lot going on. He's sort of supervising the kitchen renovations, and he just, like, didn't want him as anything. That's beautiful. It just felt like an excuse, but whatever.

Our fifth and final story. Kate Blanchette will be. starring as Martha Stewart in a biopic movie about Martha Stewart. So the biopic will be called Good Thing about the career of the lifestyle media mogul Martha Stewart. I don't understand the title, but I'm excited. Good thing. I love this. Martha's documentary was so amazing.

Obviously we know Martha Snoop, you know, she's like the current Martha. But the Martha of Yore is one of the most impressive, even beyond like her sent in jail, right? Like she has lived so many lives. She was a billionaire, then not, then yes. Like she's so insane. Her documentary is amazing. So her getting the biopic treatment obsessed. I don't know if I love this casting.

I can't lie. I know Meryl Streep is like devastated that she didn't get the role. And I actually think like Meryl might have been better. Oh, I kind of like this. I feel like Meryl would have been more obvious. Also like not to be ages, but Meryl's in her 70s and Kate is how old? Because she needs to be able to play younger. What era are they depending on?

If Kate Blammer. Chet is 56, so she can play like in her 40s and her 60s. 70s. Yeah. And so I think it just gives her a little more range. And I think Kate with a little bit of hair and makeup, like, doesn't not look like Martha. I think this is good.

I'm just excited about this. Like, I think we're a little too. Like people love to make biopics about people like who we don't. Like this is exactly who needs one. Also, Martha's catchphrase is it's a good thing, apparently. Oh, oh. I guess is that well known maybe it was in like in her heyday of cooking shows just like how easy is that oh my god I literally was opening packages the other day I open Amazon a book comes out cooking for

geoffrey Ben's trying to send you a sign I'm like what is this and he's like I just thought it would be good he's trying to send you a sign are you going to start cooking for Jeffrey cooking for Ben yeah oh no I'm Jeffrey You are Jeffrey. I am Jeffrey. They don't have kids, right? No, she spoke about it in her book because she's just like straight up, like didn't want.

Like not, and she doesn't, I feel like sometimes people talk about it. They didn't want kids and they go on to regret it. She was like, no, no, no, best decision on my life. Oh, okay. So I guess. Yeah. Okay. Like no question.

No stone unturned. In her book. Ben should read her books. Why don't you get her memoir next? Wait. Even though we clowned on it so thoroughly. Everyone is talking about Lena Dunham's memoir. Do you know anything about it?

Yeah, Jack Antonoff and the Lord. There's a lot. Adam Driver. Adam Driver, I saw that. But he's like a method actor, right? I don't know. I feel so two ways. Like, I hate Lena Dunham. Like, not for the reasons everybody else does.

Like, I hate her because of that article she wrote. Like, that's plain and simple. That's the only reason. Yeah. Are there more than I should? She's just like. Why would you like her more? I guess she has like a pretty good point of you.

No, she's really funny. And girls, I recently like rewatch the first season. And she she had it, right? Like that the talent. She was the producer, the star. She had it. She's extremely funny. I think she's extremely talented.

I think she gets in her own way. And if I could take out that article she wrote about her Jewish boyfriend and and and just look at her objectively. Like I actually think I would like the book. Like she is kind of. kind of underrated. Sorry. Ooh.

I know, I know, I know, I know. I know, but I'm telling you like. Girls is disturbing. Like maybe she had a couple good like moments and like, you know, captured a couple feelings and times correctly. But it's like a disturbing show and I feel like it like opened up a genre of like just gross shit. Very graphic. Yeah, I think overarchingly like the story that was told about like female friendship was a story

worth telling. But like what was the story about the, like I feel like she had like some funny, you know, quips. She goes to the doctor. She's like, has her clothes on. She's like, that's on my weight because like she has her clothes on when she, she like, she like had a, like she does like capture like a couple like very real things. Um, but what was the story of the friends? Were those girls even friends? They were all also sort of like caricatures of, I don't know a Marnie. I don't know a jessa. So the overarching message is about like that post-crant like your friend group and then like years later you realize like you all hate each other. You are not friends and you don't even like

each other. And so... That's the message of the show. Yes. Like they all just really grow apart into people that they hate because, like, they were just friends because they were in college. Like, that's it. Yeah. And so I do think that like the story overarchingly of girls is like a good and relatable and like... I didn't even know that's what it's about. And I've watched the whole thing. But I think a lot of her ways in which she told that story. And yes, I agree that a lot of the scenes were just like unnecessarily graphic. And it did, and because it was so popular, it was. And opened up like the floodgates for other shows and movies to go even further in their, like in an unnecessary way.

Sometimes you have to be graphic to tell a story. Okay, and I get that. But you don't, most of the time. Yeah. And I've heard just really good things about her book. I'm saying, like, I don't know if I'm going to read it, but I've heard really good things. But also, like, her other book, she talked about, like, molesting her sister.

So I don't know. I don't know. I have no, like, desire to read it. And Adam Driver, like, through a chair and he was, like, a monster on set. Yeah, yeah. She said that, like, he was an abuser. And now a lot of people are saying, well, he played an abuse. any method acts and maybe it was that um alton williams is at an event last night she was asked about

it and she was like oh i haven't gone to that part in the book yet it was actually like a very well answered question like very media trained yeah as far as like being a method actor who plays an abuser that's kind of like a tricky one um and it's like your guy's problem actors yeah no my hands are tied my hands are tied here it's just not my problem like i'm not an actor and i don't i think you guys are like what are you doing she did say like of the uh the girls who i auditioned for girls. Amy Schumer. She said Allison Mack, that girl from Nexiam, Smallville. Amy Schumer would have been amazing. Yeah. But she would have played Hannah, right? Hannah. Yeah. I don't know if that's who she auditioned for, but that's the only role that she would be good for.

Yeah. Okay. Allison Mack, who else? And she said that for like a year after that. She kept getting emails from Allison Mack to join her women's group, which was the cult. Oh, that's funny. Who else? I started a tweet this morning. Let me tell you. It was Amy Schumer, Alison Mac, and there was one other. Oh, Dakota Johnson. Who I don't think.

Oh, I guess she would have been a great Marnie. Yeah, but Alton Williams was a great Marnie. She also would have been a great Shoshana, maybe. No. She was obviously going for Marnie. Yeah. What we're talking about? Oh.

It's just not as iconic as like. No, when we talk about like the, you know, the HBO shows with four women main characters, like there is a trip. I feel like every couple of years they try to, like, this is the new sex in the city. This is the new. New girls.

But, like, there will only be one sex in the setting. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that that show right now, I Love L.A. is meant to be, like, the Gen Z version of that. Like, you know. I feel like Gen Z would like girls. I think they do.

Andrew Reynolds' character. Could only have been played by Andrew Rennels. Like, he is the best actor. He's actually the best part of that whole show. And I think that at first he wasn't meant to be even remote. a main character. But after the first season, it was so clear how great he was

and how beloved he was that they wrote him in more. That's just a feeling that I have. Yeah. Everyone else is pretty interchangeable. He's so funny. Agreed. And that's that.

There are actually a lot of other stories today that we'll get to tomorrow. Like what? Well, I don't want to, I guess I could spoil like tomorrow's show. Like more updates with like Katie Perry and Ruby Rose. Oh, really?

I don't care. No, no, but it's like becoming a thing. then, oh, the NFL reporter, like, resigning after the pictures. Those can wait. Yeah, yeah. Some stuff about Kylie Cosmetics that I found interesting. I guess I have to wait until tomorrow. Apparently her, Kylie and Chris are trying to get Jeff Bezos to buy Kylie Cosmetics back from Cody.

They don't really like the way it's being managed. I agree that it's being mismanaged. I don't know if you can blame Cody 100%, because they only own half the company. And like the Kylie, the name of the company is Kylie Cosmetics. But I love that. Like just absolutely love. Yeah. So who would own it?

Amazon? I guess so but doesn't, does Amazon develop beauty lines? Well, they were the initial first partner in House Labs. It was so terrible and horrible. It went nowhere. And then it ended up getting resold to Sephora. They repackaged the whole thing. And now it's an amazing company.

I would love to be able to buy Collie cosmetics on Amazon. Well, the fact that you actually like can't really buy makeup on Amazon is such a flaw. Yeah, it comes like in three weeks and it's expired. From China. Yeah, like they have no hold of. on the makeup community, which is so crazy. Yeah. Because you can buy everything on Amazon.

No, it's so crazy. And makeup's the thing I need where I'm like, oh, I ran out of concealer. I need it tomorrow. I'm not like, oh, now I have to go to Sephora. Big, like, big miss on Amazon's part. Because Sephora online isn't like, you know, lickety split in terms of-

In New York, you get mostly same-day delivery. And you can do Instacart. No, but on their website too. You don't have to do it through Instagram. But you also can't get an Instagram, which is pretty cool. I guess I never really like remember that. I just like wait until I'm out of a lot of things

and then I place a big order or I go to the store. I like to do their website more than Instacart because I feel like the Instacart choppers like don't care if they get my shade right, you know? And it's like, this is not usable to me. Yeah, it's like, thanks so much. Yeah. Thank you.

All right, I got to pay. Love you guys. Thank you so much. I'm listening to the Thursday. You don't remember the Friday. Please subscribe to subscribe to the video. Subscribe to subscribe. Bebott.

Because of our podcast. We bet. Backgues. We bet. We have a lot. We got a business. We have a lot. Let's say anything from Ms.

We are. Let me just check like anything from Ms. Like I would have, actually, I didn't have my notifications off. No. No. Nothing. Okay. Love ya.

Bye. Bye.