The Toast - The *Fast* Five: Friday, October 11th, 2024

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Friday that genuinely, if you are of the Jewish faith, feels nothing like a fucking Friday. It definitely feels like a Thursday because- No, it feels like a Monday. We're all over the place. Like we're going into the weekend, yes, technically, but we are going into-

The hardest day of the year. Fast. I'm actually headed out of town for the weekend. We were supposed to leave town yesterday, but our plans got changed because of Milton Tings so we're leaving town today so it's very Duris Day today meaning I couldn't tell you what day it is how are you looking at this fast like are you feeling like you're gonna crush it are you feeling like it's not your year no I I know that I'm gonna do what I have to do. But I also know that it's going to leave me with a migraine for two days. And I'm going into the fast with a bit of a migraine.

So it's not looking good for your girl. And I'm getting on a plane. Yeah. Not good for the grain. It's going to be a rough 72 hours. It is. I'm feeling like definitely weak. I'm not feeling like my toughest, like my mental fortitude is on point.

Like I'll be able to just like walk. Because, you know, I got to walk in the streets. I walk past, you know, bagel stores, Chinese food restaurants, carts on the street. And I'm feeling just like weak of mind. Well, I have to like make food for the boys. Like I'm going to be surrounded by food all day because they don't have to fast. Like I have to make breakfast, lunch, dinner. That's crazy.

Snacks. That's crazy. Snacks. That's really crazy. Yeah. So I think it's good though to go into it weak of mind because then you'll really embody the spirit of the day. Like to come in like guns blazing, it's like that's not what this is about. Like we're not meant to feel our best. We're supposed to be like coming in humble, hat in hand.

Hat in hand, like asking for forgiveness. Chuva, please. Even though I'm really not sorry like dead ass I did forget a lot over the last 10 days that these were an important 10 days yeah these are like the 10 days between the two most important where God like really judges you you need to be on your best behavior but every time I remembered I was like no no I think okay I was good I think I was good yeah I it wasn't top of mind for me I was like, no, no, no. I think I was good. I think I was good. Yeah. It wasn't top of mind for me. I was like too busy to be acting out. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't do it. I mean, I didn't kill anyone, you know? So that's good. But like, what was in your heart, Turney?

What was in my heart these last 10 days? Like, honestly, the toast and my family. Like, I don't, I think that's what God wants. Like work hard, yeah so tomorrow is the big day we will see you on the other side of the animal to everyone participating yeah and just know like your girls are fasting yeah like while you're you know soaking up whatever Saturday awesomeness drinking awesome shooters with your awesome friends like a cold glass of tea think that's amazing at three o'clock on Yom Kippur. Anything sounds amazing at 3 o'clock. Cold glass of water. With like a lemon wedge.

Tasty. I also hit up a new, speaking of Judaism, big news in the community. I know I've been telling you guys when the kosher grocers opened, like the landscape of my local Jewish community was ever shifted. Well, like last week, a new kosher spot for dinner opened up now it's not new because like it exists downtown but they opened it up in uptown version and I went last night it was like so premium it was like the fanciest steakhouse I'd ever been to in my life I had such a big meal literally had to be rolled home just kind of perfect way to start Yom Kippur that's true it was really something are you gonna have a big meal tonight do you know what you're having I don't know what I'm having I was talking

about that with Ben this morning that's like kind of one of the more fun parts of the holiday like discussing what you're gonna gorge I always botch it like for some reason we're always delayed like we order food and it doesn't come. Or I just feel like I never really got it right. Plus today is just going to be like a race to the evening. So I don't know. I don't have a good plan. Like, cause I'm always like thinking that, you know, I'm thinking pizza pasta.

Even though like in terms of actually staying full and sustaining like hunger, that's not helpful. Like you should really be having meat. The more you eat, the hungrier you are. No are no no it's like more so about what no that's no but that's also true like just because you eat a huge meal like that's not going to make you not hungry of course but like if you eat a huge meal of like crap versus a huge meal of like a ton of meat and like veggies like you will technically stay fuller longer but I'm not thinking with my head this time of the day like but then if you eat a whole meal of carbs you can run a marathon make it make sense that's a thing like it doesn't I feel like

that's a lie that the pasta industry started like big pasta carb pasta fuels you right you need to be fueled right that feels like a lie because anytime I've had pasta like I'm not running anywhere bitch I'm laying down I'm feeling feeling the pasta like a rock in my belly. It's giving big pasta. Well, just leave it to us to uncover another toxic industry. Another scandal. Speaking of toxicity and scandals, I'm all caught up on Tell Me Lies. That's what I did yesterday.

I don't know how many episodes. I was behind more than I thought I was. And then I was like overjoyed to see that the episode I was watching was the new episode. So I'm all completely caught up. I was a little let down yesterday to find out that I was already caught up. I thought I had one more episode. I thought it came out yesterday, but it came out the night before. So it's good.

I was caught up. But my recap yesterday like was of everything. I want to hear your thoughts. So if you want to get into that now. Tell me before the recap starts. Spoilers start now. If you're avoiding it, the timestamps will be in the description of the episode. hear your thoughts so if you want to get into that now tell me the stories start spoilers start if you're avoiding it um the timestamps will be in the description of the episode so you can just skip right ahead I'll tell you when when it's over so starting now okay it's crazy how like for me for so long like Lucy was the beginning and end of the show seriously her scenes I can't even watch

her like I'm so intrigued with what's going on with Pippa and Brie. Like they are so far more interesting to me than Lucy. Like Lucy's predictable. Like we know what she's going to do, right? I feel like I used to hate Lucy so much in season one. Like seriously, the worst person I've ever known. And in this season, I actually really like her when she is being good and trying for redemption I like her so so much now I'm obviously disappointed in her however I could see how she got to this place like everybody is sort of like splintering off and leaving her and she has no one left and then Steven comes and knock in I agree Pippa and Wrigley like that's the heart and soul of this show agreed I love right they are my favorites however Brie has lost me Brie has crossed into sociopathic

behavior maybe her and Lucy are perfect for each other okay so while I don't endorse everything Brie has been getting herself into like the earrings like she seriously you just saw like the switch flipped like I'm a crazy bitch now and they're they are insinuating that like years later at her wedding she's on the phone with someone and that it's the professor correct right which also kind of feels like they never get caught which I would like that I can't deal with them getting in trouble like it's no like that the Christmas party scene like how dumb are you and I know everyone's like shipping like oh he should kiss her but when Evan like put it in plain terms he's a 45 year old man and she's 19 years old that is very young if two if Leo were dating

a 19 you know we would say the same thing plus the professor student dynamic also changes things but say she were a grad student like that makes it a little better I saw someone wrote in Toast After Dark that they were a grad student they fell in love with their professor and and they're still together to this day so there is something like very uh wrong with their relationship aside from the obvious facts yeah and from an ethical standpoint yeah aside from the fact like he's married just she is so young yeah yeah yeah yeah but like I like it too no no I I actually really don't like it like I actually don't even think they have chemistry and when they were sitting at the bar at that hotel and everything like started to be embarrassing and icky that was the time to part

ways like you guys can't even go to a hotel bar together and have a nice time because your situation is so off now for me like I really can't watch Diana I literally hate her so much because you want to know why like she's so smart right and she clearly is guided by this like moral compass that's what's really led her to her friendship with Pippa like she knows she knows the difference between right and wrong I think people in this show like don't and so all of that is just so incongruous with her like obsession with Stephen and like knowing what Stephen deleting those pictures like she now knows and her like obsession with him and decision to like ride for him so hard and like how dumb are you like the second your dad can't help your boyfriend your

boyfriend like is mean to you like she's smarter than that in all senses I I've always loved Diana and I thought like I understood her and last season she was just like a totally different person than she is this season but that's also like the the Steven effect right but I thought like I understood her and last season she was just like a totally different person than she is this season but that's also like the the Steven effect right but I felt like she was always like really smart and together and like saw potential in Steven and was going to like lift him out of his circumstances and like that's why he was so attracted to her when he was like realizing he was just like fucking around with Lucy the two of them were going nowhere and they were being losers and like doing poorly in school or I can have like this bright future with Diana like and they walked down the stairs together he was like I'm choosing

my future and like all of this over here like I fully got it and I shipped them as much as I could ship Steven with anyone but then this season and again yes it is like the toxic relationship with Steven but like how does a girl like that like know what her boyfriend did and isn't affected by it isn't like turned off by him so now I don't understand her and then even the way she was like standing this is why the show was so good when she was like standing when he walked into the room like she just looked so small yeah like she looked so meek whereas like in the first season to me she was a giant yeah and now I don't know if they changed like the proportions of her clothes but she looked like just so small inside and out that's really

funny maybe I'm taking the show too seriously but no I could see what you're saying just the way I'm telling you the way she was standing they told her to stand like that because her her stance literally has changed yeah right right right um I agree with you that like Wrigley and Pippa are oddly the most like endearing yeah and like true like moral compass of the show and that scene when he broke down like was really sad and there's just like so many lies like I can't even I mean I guess that's why it's called tell me lies like I literally can't even keep up with it oh and like when Brie pulled that earring out of her ear and like was being a dumb bitch I like wanted to kill her I was not expecting the teacher to show up wearing the earring.

Like, what does it mean? Like, did she find it? He was like, oh, that's a gift for you. Yeah, like I think Bree thought this was how she was going to get Oliver to herself by the wife knowing and she found them and Oliver was like, it's for you. And I absolutely love that. Yeah, yeah. That was uncomfortable.

Yeah, and Leo and Lucy broke up, which is sad because they were actually cute. Yeah. And like, sorry, he was too good for her. Like, yeah.

And he was also good for her, but it was weird that he didn't tell her about his history with Steven. Yes. Yeah. But it's like so frustrating that all these people

like know how Steven works and they still like let him win. Like when Lydia came up to him and was like, when he came up to Lydia like in the quad and was telling her all the things Lucy had ever said about her, like they just let themselves like get caught up in it, even though they know.

Yeah. But she actually wasn't wrong for that because it's not like she's experienced even. So like she only knows what Lucy says. And then like how everything he said, even if he's a manipulator, how would he know a lot of that stuff? Like she obviously said some of that stuff and then he twisted it. But now I also, and I said this yesterday,

like I do see the path to how Stephen and Lydia get together because they're both eventually enemies of Lucy. And I do see how like Lucy will never talk, Lydia will never talk to Lucy again. Like in her mind, she falsely accused her brother of something. Yeah. Now I do wonder if in real time now

everybody knows about Pippa I don't know well right right right um only one more episode it's kind of a short season I think it's like eight episodes yeah good leave us wanting more they're doing a fantastic job it's been such a good season. It really has. Even like post book. Post book. Yeah. I like it. Yeah. We have a great show. We've got stories. We've got Queenie and Weenie. And I think for Friday, the stories like are kind of good. Yeah, they're really good. I'm actually really excited to talk about all of them. There are five strong stories, I would say, like not one is more huge than another. Love that. Let's get into the five strong stories that you need to know. And the five strong stories that you need to know

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She screenshotted a $15 travel credit from JetBlue and said, thank you at JetBlue for your $15 credit. My flight was $1,500 and the credit is 1,100th of the money I paid you. Strange that I paid that for your in-flight entertainment system that didn't work for the duration of my six-hour flight, but I guess it was worth it for this $15 credit. And they responded saying, we're sorry you're disappointed Jessica please send us a DM so we can look into this and then she also posted the DM that she sent oh my god I only saw the first part she doesn't saw it

she said the flight attendants issued the $15 for each for the tv outage because that was the issue with her flight she said I understand but I spent $1,500 on the flight and so did my husband there should be some flight credit or something since I have a true blue account and have been a loyal customer not the true blue so this is a particular social media trope that gives me the ick like when celebrities wealthy people use their platforms as like a customer service communication method and like I seriously like it gives me the ick this is what I think is great about like brands doing customer service on social media

for regular people, right? They have a hard time, you know, you're on the phone for three hours trying to get in contact. So overall, like I like that brands are able to like issue customer service over social media. But to be Jessica Chastain, and by the way, when she posted this,

it was like the night Milton was hitting. And I was just like, girl, read the fucking room. And I wasn't sure what she was complaining about because was she asking for a more significant discount or credit given the fact that her in-flight entertainment did not work? Or she was just sharing that her in-flight entertainment didn't work and something else happened? No, I think it was her in-flight entertainment didn't work. She paid that much for the ticket. It was a six hour flight and they only gave her 15 dollars because her tv didn't work like I agree with you it's a good practice in general and sometimes celebrities do use it but they've had a crazy experience right their flight turned around mid-flight you know whatever even then I don't care your tv doesn't work pick up a book and like

what more should I feel like when you go on a plane like you know there's a chance that like your tv might not work and and it's so it's so annoying but like they'll give you a little credit but like really what can they do you're flying through the air so like the television they can't fix the television let me say a television not working like is a huge inconvenience like beyond what do you think you deserve for that like I feel like if that was the case on Delta they give you like 5,000 or 10,000 miles like that I feel is like significant enough to like save me off and what is 5,000 10,000 miles convert to in dollars like 50 bucks I think okay so she got 15 so it's a difference of 35 dollars the thing is I am not going to go back

and forth with you on whether I think this was an appropriate accommodation for Miss Chastain. I am merely focused more on the like the lack of self-awareness that it takes to write this tweet. Like you are a lady of a certain stature. Yeah I it's too much. Yeah it's not it's not the the best plus it's not like she's like a social media swirly like every thought on Twitter like bop bop beep and so she's probably one of those people has help in running her socials so like this is what she's getting on for and I don't know I just feel like if she really wanted to get in contact with somebody at I was gonna say dear media at JetBlue like she has different ways of like back-end channels. Well, I'm almost glad she didn't use the back-end special channel for her $15 problem.

Like the point of a flight is to get you from point A to point B and they did that. Yeah. Like there are a lot of inconveniences that can happen when you're on the plane. Whether they want to be more generous and giving you something okay but like to take to your big platform and start complaining about the $15 what hoping that how much do you think that you should get so it's a difference of $15 $20 like it's cringelicious it is it really is I'm not a fan of the celebrities doing this and Jessica Chastain is no exception I have like a few like things especially when she paid $1,500 for the ticket like I know she's saying that as some sort of flex like we deserve more but it's like right if you pay $1,500 for two tickets like

then you're okay one no no $1,500 twice for her husband too you have have an iPad. No and like it's okay if you get the $15 instead of the $20. No what so if she had been sitting in economy and her TV didn't work like what she deserves less of a credit.

Less like it's it's really out of touch especially given the fact like what do we know about Jessica Chastain she's a famous movie star she has a lot of money like she will be okay.

Right. Right. I hate when celebrities do this. is my least favorite thing it never really ends well and I think maybe once in a while it does end well where it becomes like a funny saga and so maybe other celebrities then think I'm gonna you know relate to people isn't it annoying when your tv doesn't work and you only get $15 like even if a flight attendant like punched Jessica Chastain's husband in the face, like I still don't want to hear about it. Like for real. That's your private business.

Handle it privately. It's wrong. Yeah. Well, maybe she'll think twice next time. But I don't know. She kept posting the DMs. Like she's all in. She can't be deterred.

She's all in. She's all in on JetBlue. Like she's all in. She can't be deterred. She's all in. She's all in on JetBlue and she's a true blue swirly. She is. Not the true blue. That was so funny. Are you ready for our next story? We have a lot of content news today. So in no particular order.

Next story. Netflix is ordering a John Mulaney live weekly talk show in 2025. Yes, I saw this. So Netflix is expanding its business with a John Mulaney live weekly talk show in 2025. Yes, I saw this. So Netflix is expanding its business with comedian John Mulaney. Following the success of last year's Live Everybody's in LA series with Mulaney, chief content officer of Netflix announced that they will launch a live weekly talker with Mulaney next year. He said, I'm really excited.

She said, I'm really excited about it. So for next year, for 2025, we're doing a variety live talk show with John Mulaney, which I'm super excited about. I mean, John Mul John Mulaney hello so we have a long relationship with John literally me we have a long relationship with John obviously and we have done his stand-up specials and during Netflix is a joke festival he did a live talk show called everybody's in LA and I was there at a couple of the tapings and was just so bold and original and fresh and then unpredictable and I think it'll be really fun to get to do a live show with him. You know, she's speaking like in buzzwords,

but she's not wrong. I like that Netflix has become like really the place for comedy and they keep evolving. Like the new Tim Dillon show, it's like when you thought Tim Dillon was announcing something new with Netflix, you would have assumed it was another special.

But no, it's like a play on like a Jerry Springer type of show. Like I like that they're doing different things with comedians besides just specials. Yeah, I think this is a great idea and could be the start of more talk shows on Netflix, maybe even a nightly show. Like this could really change the landscape.

And I think he's the perfect first person to start with. Agreed. And I could see them like kind of eclipsing the traditional late night format. Because there's been a problem in the late night for a while. I feel like there's all these like think pieces about it. Like what are we doing about late night? And it's just like the Jimmy's being stale.

Being Jimmy. And no one's tried something new yet. So here we go. Yeah. But although they did do that with Chelsea, right? They had a Chelsea Handler. Was it like a, it wasn't daily, but it was like a weekly, it was something.

She had big guests and it didn't do well. Where? Netflix. Hmm. It was like very satirical. So it wasn't like straight interview. She was like, you know, being like, like a little, like loony little Chelsea. But it was canceled.

Hmm. Well, try, try again. Yeah. If at first you don't succeed. Try, try, try again. Yeah. If at first you don't succeed. Try, try again with John Mulaney. Literally. And you know how I feel about John Mulaney. So that's good.

Yeah. So I'm happy for you. This is big for the John Mulaney swirlies. Are you ready for some more big Netflix content news? Something I'm actually really excited about. Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart that I didn't know that I needed. But Martha Stewart has a documentary coming out on Netflix on October 30th it is called Martha

Netflix just dropped the trailer for the documentary which premieres at the end of the month and it chronicles her rise to fame her criminal conviction and how she rebuilds herself after her time in prison so in the trailer she says I was on top of the world and then of course she was indicted on criminal charges related to the sale of the stock. So she is participating in this documentary. She's giving interviews. She's talking about her rise, the trial, her time in prison, her comeback. It looks amazing.

It does. And, you know, I had never thought, like, sat down and thought, like, Martha Stewart should have a documentary. But she really is so impressive from a million different perspectives. Like, one, if you just look at her business, and I that like her real like rise and like her peak of like that homemaker tv era like we've kind of missed so I don't like know a lot about it yeah um and then of course the whole you know going to prison thing and like fun fact about Martha Stewart is like she went to prison because she refused to give up her like her ally she refused to rat so she's kind of like a

gangster in that sense as well um but she literally went to prison so looking forward to hearing about that and I feel like we were so young that maybe the first time we even heard Martha Stewart's name was in the course of the trial but then now to see it as like she was like picture perfect homemaker the word they kept using was like perfect perfect perfect she's literally an adjective like that's so Martha Stewart like and for that person to then be on trial like I'm sure it was a shock to the country and then to have to come back and she has come back and is doing like this bigger but different stuff and like evolving as a woman in the industry also talking about like aging in the

industry as a woman is impossible and i also don't know if i knew she was amazing i don't know if i knew she was the first self-made female billionaire something like that in the U.S. yes in the U.S. I don't know if I knew that no I don't think I knew that either because I don't know that much about her career story I agree and like what is her business like then or now all of it like how did she become a billionaire she has this like homemaking empire with like Martha Stewart weddings magazine the tv show living the tv show I empire with like Martha Stewart Weddings Magazine the TV show. Martha Stewart Living the TV show. I think she had product. What's Martha Stewart Living? Magazine. Okay okay okay. I think she had product line. Yeah definitely products. And then you know probably made some money from the inside of the tree. Of course of course. And the TV show.

Yes a TV show but I don't think you become a billionaire from a TV show. No no no but it's all like in the Martha ecosystem. It's product. product it's in the product but then she also like media mogul magazine publishing mogul yep celebrity consumer goods mogul and then I think she also and I don't know much about it has a deeply interesting personal life too well then yeah there's stuff about her husband he is no longer with us but they talked about the fact that he had cheated on her. And then, like, they were like, but didn't you cheat on him? And she was like, well, he never knew about that. Obsessed.

Yeah. No, she's, like, still, like, gangster. Yeah. She's just talking about, like, not trying to be. Martha Stewart is a gangster. And that's why, like, everyone loves her from all different walks of life. Young, old. Like, everybody loves Martha Stewart.

Yeah. So I think there's going to be a lot in there. I'm 100% watching this. I, young, old, like everybody loves Martha Stewart. Yeah, so I think there's gonna be a lot in there. I'm 100% watching this. I know I always say like, I'm open. I'll be watching this. If I don't watch it by October 31st, like someone remind me. I'm sad. Yeah, because yesterday I had carved out some time

to watch my last episode of Tell Me Lies. And then when it wasn't there, I was all of a sudden like looking through my DVR, like what do I watch? DVR, what are you, 100? Instead I just scrolled scrolled on my phone classic what a way to waste an hour what do you say instead of DVR well you were talking about like your YouTube TV recordings right my library like you guys wouldn't know what I'm talking about some of you haven't cut your cords yet I would say I'd scroll through my like recorded shows I don't know I wouldn't say DVR TiVo

no by the way TiVo was a cultural shift speaking of yeah speaking of like little mom things I literally don't know transition did you see the new Tesla van they literally made a minivan but it's like a robot you can't drive it like oh what is it like a taxi service yeah kind of the new um robot i saw they had a big event last night i'm honestly like offended i wasn't invited it's so true you are like the leading correspondent when it comes to like elon's whereabouts and i feel like i am like a leading correspondent in the tesla space for like swirlies. You know,

how many other swirlies are doing such Tesla advocacy? So they unveiled like a new two seater car, a taxi, a van. The robo van. The robo van. Yeah. The 20 seat autonomous passenger. Are you going to be driving your kids around in that?

No, that, I mean, watch me in a year. I think I need a robo van. Cute, cute, cute,

cute. So he heard you. Actually, wait, it does kind of look like a minivan when the door opens yeah no it's literally like I don't need a 20 seater yet but this is kind of parge and did you see the robot I did I did it's giving ex machina it is but he one he's like funny and two his name is Optimus he's like meant to help with household chores okay wait like when I saw the robot it was definitely a girl like maybe you you saw a girl she had like a sexy like physique she had boobs like you hear her speak no I just uh Ben was still asleep when I opened my phone so I was like scrolling Twitter with no sound oh well let me know what the voice sounded like but I can't imagine they made two different.

I just saw all the robots. I saw a bunch. You thought they were all feminine? I automatically assumed. I saw tits. Like, what are you talking about? I do see like a slight shelf. But the voice that I heard was a man's voice.

Like very much a man. But I do think you could probably change the voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, like, and that's why I also said ex machina because it looks like Alicia Vikander in that movie she had like a sexy robot so you think these robots are sexy I'm saying like they're not ugly like they have like a good body and they have good personality like if they want to stay at that level of not you know taking over my life I would maybe invite

one into my home because it said that they're there to help with household chores like fold my laundry if I'm like laying in bed and I like the clickers on the other side of the room and I could just say hey Roby get in here and pass me that but I have Ben so like I actually don't need a robot but Ben needs a robot yes Ben needs a robot yeah what was the story oh Martha yes I agree I'm fully sat like I cannot wait cannot wait see you then see you then are you ready for our next story number four I also think Martha has like a fabulous personality that a lot of people don't know about yeah I feel like people know at this point but yeah when she's talking in her documentary like that's gonna be fun the story itself is fun like the iconic iconic imagery. Hopefully we get like some visuals of her home.

Like maybe she takes us through, I think she lives in like Massachusetts or something. Yeah. It's going to be great. It's going to be great. I love that. Are you ready for our next story? I am.

Some kind of major news between Scooter and Taylor. Did you see that Scooter sat down for an interview and he's talking about Taylor Swift feud and his portrayal in the recent documentary that was on HBO Max, Taylor versus Scooter. Which was like not sanctioned by either party. Right. So he actually said that he watched it recently. He said at the Bloomberg Screen Time event on Thursday, he said, I wasn't going to watch it because I just thought it was going to be like another hit piece. And I pretty much stayed quiet about this kind of stuff. And my dad called me and my mom and they were like, we just watched it.

We think you should watch it. So I did, he said. The he then talks about the drama. He said, look, it's five years later. I think everyone it's time to move on. He claimed that there were a lot of things that were misrepresented in the doc. And he said, quote, I think it's important in any kind of conflict that people actually communicate directly with each other. I think doing it out on social media and in front of the whole world is not the place.

And I think when people actually take the time to stand in front of each other, have a conversation, they usually find out the monster's not real and that hasn't happened. And that has not happened. I actually really agree with that. Yeah. Like for me, when it comes to like the Scooter and Taylor thing like I really can't get into it anymore these days because like for so long like Scooter's the devil Scooter's the devil Scooter's the devil now like after October 7th it just kind of puts things in perspective about like what's important and like Scooter Braun like doing what he did with Taylor's Masters like I don't care. Like you like advocating on behalf of the Jewish people. Like to me, that's more important.

Like nonstop bringing the Nova exhibit to LA. Like, look, you see me? I'm washing my hands of this saga. Like I'm not getting involved. No, but the concept that when two people who have an issue actually like sit down to talk about it, you actually find that, like he said, the monster is not real.

Like it could be like a lot of miscommunication or like oh the game of telephone was lost here this was my intention behind this I didn't mean it to come off like that like and I I agree with him that maybe if they now it's too late and too much has been said and Taylor I don't think will ever like move on from what she thinks happened what happened in her experience you know from her POV but at the initial moment like I do feel like that would have been way more productive than like everyone taking a social media um also speaking of tailored have you seen this clip going around I think it came out like literally this morning of Travis's ex-girlfriend yeah she's on Angel Reese's podcast Angel Reese I didn't even know she had a podcast she's like one of the bigger bigger, one of the new big like WNBA stars.

She like came up with King Park. And she just like, they have this conversation that was like seriously so disrespectful. Like it was really crazy. I actually felt like the ex was being as respectful as Pops. She was being a little delusional, but respectful. Yeah. And then Angel was like, I really liked you guys together. Like, okay.

You have to remember, and I feel like I just realized this. She was his girlfriend for five years. Like that's a very long time yeah no and she basically said like you know we're all good with one another but we don't acknowledge each other we don't even communicate because of Taylor like we just know it would become this huge thing and it's not but if I said hi to him or like we texted him it would become a big thing that it isn't which by the way you shouldn't really be communicating with your ex who's in a new relationship like I don't care how long you guys dated and how you know well you guys ended like that's disrespectful but whatever her point was made I didn't think her point was offensive or anything no and then I just felt like Angel

was like being like yeah she was like I love you guys together like so she's saying she doesn't like Taylor to Travis together yeah it was giving like they were better together than Taylor and Travis yeah like no I could hear the next song on Taylor's album like Angel's falling no no literally next thing you know Taylor's going to WNBA like Indiana game to support Caitlin Clark a hundred percent she's wearing just to get back at Angel Reese yeah yeah no you found yourself on the list my friend she's making a list I agreed with what the ex said I believe her name is Kayla yeah so yeah what Kayla said however I also agree that why do you need to talk?

Communicate. If you walked past each other in the street, yes, you should say hi. But like, when are you walking past each other in the street? No, no. And I think she meant like texting and stuff. Like you shouldn't be. Why would you text your ex to five years?

That's done. That's your ex. Even before he's like moved on with his wife to be like. Right. It's done. Correct. So yes, I saw that. And then another funny comment that Scooter made, um, someone asked what artists he would pick to build a new company around if he was to start one today in management or otherwise. And he said, I'm going

to give you the sound bite you're looking for because I just can't help myself. The PR team is going to be like, what? I think the artist that's one that you should always bet on and is already a huge star and you can always bet on because they want it all the time and they do what it takes to be, you know, present all the time is Taylor Swift. By the way, like they can hate each other, but like still respect one another's hustle. Yes. But this is a classic thing where it's like one party has moved on from the drama, like Kim saying we're all over it. Taylor will never. But by the way, like in both situations for Taylor, like it's very easy for the person who did that shit to you to be like, I'm over it.

I'm over it. They're not the person who requires forgiveness, right? It's harder to move on when you are the one who was the injured party. Yes, but I think actually in the scooter situation. He sees himself also as a victim. Yes. One from like the social media tirade that it started when she said something about it and then like for his family and it just got

really crazy and then also like she then re-recorded all the albums and um you know rendered his investment like completely useless even though he did wind up selling it for 100 million dollars to shamrock yeah no he did good yeah so i don't i but I think he's you know you can't live in the past unless you're tailored yeah yeah no one thing about Taylor Swift like she never gets still there dust collecting on my pinned up hair yeah so that's them that's that are you ready for our fifth and final story yeah I did think that HBO Max documentary was like kind of like it was giving the Janet Joplin autobiography. Did you watch it?

No. Like nobody was a part of it. Like they had no. I actually think. Am I crazy? I was asked to be like a documentary like commentator on something. Travis and Taylor. Oh it wasn't that one?

On Hulu. And they wound up using a clip from The Toast. Oh, okay, great. So cute. Okay, yeah. So I got confused. I thought maybe it was that one. No.

It's cute that his parents like watched it and told him to watch it. Protected him. Like they have to see things before he, he's like, they're kind of like this barrier. Yeah. Or they're like, oh, there's something about our son. Press play. Actually, no, but it sounds like they told him to watch it because it wasn't as bad as of like this barrier yeah they're like oh there's something about our son press play actually no but it sounds like they told him to watch it because it wasn't as bad as he thought it was gonna be maybe maybe they thought it was fair more fair than anything else that's out there because he

said there's still a lot of stuff that they got wrong but maybe it was better than anything so yeah who knows are you to me like the most interesting part of Scooter Braun is not the Taylor Swift saga like what happened to all of his artists leaving him? He moved on from managing. I know, but, like, the company still exists, and the company's huge. It was bought by this billion-dollar company. I think he just moved on. Yeah, but, like, the business he built that, like, is a management company still very much exists.

Yeah. It's nefarious, in my opinion. And they all kind of went to the same place. I don't see it as nefarious, but I also don't kind of went to the same place I don't see it as nefarious but I also don't like think about it that much so maybe it is but I feel like people just like jump around someone's a good manager for something for by the way yes people jump around like managers are like you know you have a new one every couple of years except like the way the relationship between like Justin Ariana and like Scooter. Yeah. It's interesting.

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Well, with who? Well, there's just always a little drama, period. No, drama isn't it well with who well there's just always a little drama period like literally i get no peace my life is so full of drama like for real i can't get a moment to myself well here's some interest on creator drama because hayley welch aka hawk tua um there's rumor going around that she is suing the people who interviewed her and created that viral interview. And she said that she's not, but she is calling them clout chasers. So Hawk Tua shut down rumors that she was suing the creators of her viral Hawk Tua interview. Their names are Tim and Dee TV, and they responded in a statement to People. So they're speaking out after Hawk Tua shut down rumors that she was suing them. They said, quote, as far as we know, that's a statement to People. So they're speaking out after Hawk 2 was shut down.

Rumors that she was suing them. They said, quote, as far as we know, that's her plan to sue. The creators exclusively told People claiming that she hired a second attorney who contacted them about sending a letter, adding that they were still waiting to hear back. So earlier this week, rumors began swirling that she was suing them after they alluded to it in a TikTok clip. In the clip, they also claimed that they would be dropping a backstory video on YouTube with all of the receipts.

So the relationship between Hawk Tour and these people has been kind of interesting ever since they posted the video in June that shot her to fame because they did that. But I think she was kind of really embarrassed by the whole thing. She said she went into hiding. She was drunk. And if you actually listen to her talk, I actually just watched a video she did with Hannah Burner.

She's really not like, I think when that video came out, everybody thought she was going to be like a barstool smoke show, like posing for Playboy. She's like literally not like that at all. She's like very demure and like from a small town and worked at a spring factory. And yes, I think she was very drunk. And I think that video, before like it ended up being a good thing for her, I think it like haunted her. Yeah. and then I think once it really blew up they were posting like more clips from the interview to sort of you know capitalize on that um so they

said she called them clout chasers on like uh when she was asked about it but she said she was not suing them but they said we've supported her from the beginning, even through negative comments. It's not fair for her to shed a bad light on us after we helped her become successful. But the truth will soon come to light. You know what? I really could argue both sides of this. Like for these guys, it's like, look what we did.

We gave her like a life, a career, you know, millions of dollars. She has tons of adoring fans. Like if we want to post some outtakes, like we are allowed to do that, you know, and she willingly, consensually like sat for this interview so but on the other hand it's like all right listen you got your moment like can you leave me alone please yeah I don't think it's even like harsh to say that they were clout chasing like they were they got some clout with the one clip so they chased some more clout and that's also their job which is kind of just the nature of the business yeah like if I had a video that did really well and I had more footage from the interview I would

literally post more you would chase some more clout it's a pretty influential 101 it's pretty factual term I don't think that she's making that up but it is kind of weird that this is not that they were friends before they were strangers but now she's full-time content creator having a lot of success and doesn't like look fondly on them and her success also doesn't it's not what you would think it would be given what that video was like she's having a lot of success and she's not like an only fans creator she doesn't do the type of content that I think people would have assumed she like like rescues lots of animals and like interviews Jojo Siwa like really not what you would think the Hawktua girl would be getting into so it's clear that that wasn't like an accurate representation

of who she is and the fact like so many people saw her at a moment that maybe she's not proud of like I can understand her having like some hostility towards these guys but at the end of the day they did not do anything wrong yeah well that we know of but maybe more happened behind the scenes they said receipts are coming oh my god show us the receipts and what would she even be suing them for not that she said she's not suing them right but based on what we know right we don't know enough they don't they didn't do anything wrong legally like based on what we know right so just i mean this is just another opportunity for me to bring up that Talk2 is the best podcast name ever created. Yeah, it is.

And you know what? It's been a while since that video came out. Like she's still making news. Yeah. She, I think, has exceeded what a lot of people thought like her 15 minutes would be. Like she did a pretty good job and like aligned herself with interesting folks. Like she's a part of like Jake Paul's company. she no Hawk 2 is here to stay no and you you can't put Hawk 2 in a box no you can't could you ever I think they're those guys were trying to and maybe that's why

she wants to sue them get me out of this box yeah yeah okay it's time for Queenie and Weenie of the Week our weekly segment where we tell out an award to two different people well four because Jackie and I both do it. To a Queenie of the Week and a Weenie of the Week. Somebody who acted like a Queenie and somebody who acted like a Weenie. Now, this week is going to be a little different for me. Because as always, I got a hard time coming up with Weenie, but I always eventually find one.

And then I have like a million options for Weenie and I have to whittle it down. This week, like I actually had two Weenies. I could not choose between. Okay. And I could not think of one person to be a queenie. So instead I'm doing two weenies. Sorry. Well, I have my queenies.

It's two people. I can't believe I sat on this information the whole episode, even though I got it this morning. Because this morning, my little sister who DNSs me TikToks sent me a TikTok that made my life complete because Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor and Jeremy Simon from The Bachelorette, he was the one who we're probably related to. His great-great-great-grandfather

was the chief rabbi of Lithuania. He told Jen on their date and just talked about how Judaism was really important to him and his family. But he's also on The Bachelor, so what are you doing there? But we said there's also a queenie, an absolute queenie, Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor.

I didn't watch her season, but she's a great follow, so I've always really liked her and she's a gargi pargi jewess and so yeah we're saying like really sick looking they have to get together they're two like proud smart attractive jews and she posted on TikTok like they're on a hard launch was it a hard launch I don't want to get my hopes up but like they did a fun TikTok sound about dating apps should just be called like what's left and it was her talking and then it pans to him and he's like laughing but for sure it was a hard launch like they were talking about dating and they were on a date never happens to me it doesn't the list came true and maybe this i mean it's such a good idea it's

sparky palastries they could have had the same idea that i had because it's just staring you in the face. But. It literally. The nachas that I'm sheping. I am obsessed. Okay. Also speaking of. Did you see Abigail and Noah from The Bachelor. Like back in the day. They got married too.

Like three days ago. I did see. So cute. So cute. Like. They're a cute couple. Oh The Bachelor. I have so many favorite Bachelor couples. You guys are nothing compared to Ariel.

And Jeremy Simon. Like. Now. I haven't even spoken about it I'm I'm elated she's kind of a clamp like she's speechless I can't wait to see more and I just this is so beautiful the bachelor like making a shit off who would have thought no that's huge that's really huge for the community. It is huge for the community. So mazel tov to the happy couple. I wish you a long and prosperous relationship. And we'll perform at the wedding.

Yeah, yeah. And not to make it about us, but just know we're cheering you on. We're here rooting for you. Yeah. OK, I don't have a queen of the week, so I'll just endorse yours. I think that's an amazing one. I love that. Thank you so much.

My weenie of the week is twofold. Now, first, my weenie is, it's going to be Flaw. Are you good? Because the more I like sit and the more content of like Flaw's, she's comes across my, and Flaw, by the way, is the reporter who started the Blake Lively stuff. And now she's trying again with Anne Hathaway and Anne Hathaway is not having it like uh the more I think about it the more content I see like the more I'm really convinced like she's a BFA um and were you the one who told me that like the video she posted of Anne Hathaway literally the caption that's what I saw but then I went to look for it

and I didn't see it on her page so okay I don't know if someone else did that so okay so all that to say like just based on the vibes like I really do believe she's a bad faith actor agreed and I am not into somebody who's like getting famous off the bones of other people like I think that's like actually the definition of weenie behavior yeah and stuff from like 12 years ago that Anne Hathaway said no twice 12 years ago right like when you really boil it down like the crime Anne Hathaway said no twice 12 years ago. Right. Like when you really boil it down, like the crime. Anne Hathaway said no twice 12 years ago and take a sip of water and didn't want to sing.

Right. She didn't want to sing after a long day. 12 years ago. My second weenie, which I couldn't let the week pass without just acknowledging. And by the way, I didn't make him one,

but Liam Payne is obviously an honorable mention to the weenie. Oh, that would have really summed up your week. Oh, Michael Bublé? Michael Bublé. Yeah, that also sums up your week. Yeah, Michael Bublé is my weenie. That would have really summed up your week. Oh, Michael Buble. Michael Buble. Yeah. That also sums up your week. Yeah.

Michael Buble is my weenie. I like of every week. And I think moving forward, if I ever can't think of a weenie, which doesn't happen, he will kind of be my go-to. Like I'll push the Michael Buble button. That's a good idea.

We need to like start talking about Michael Buble again, you know, in a bad way. Start making noise. We let him just like get away with, with a lot okay um where are you my weenie is a group of people I don't know how many people um contributed to this decision but I imagine it was like more than one so I will say like the casting directors for love

is blind DC I love I love this because it's not one love is blind cast member it's a lot of them it's poor judgment from the casting directors. Also poor judgment from the people who decided that Brittany and Leo should not go forward. Because you just see they announced the season seven Love is Blind reunion. And they used Brittany and Leo for the teaser. So they know that people are like very much curious about them. But also we need. So we need to the casting.

We need. But we need to the also to the casting we but we need to the also to the contestants like I am and I'm not following the show so closely anymore but I'm still seeing a million TikToks and I'm letting it be spoiled for myself because I don't care and apparently like Ramsey's and Marissa have such different opinions on like core major things like you know uh birth control, the military. She's literally in the military. He said, if you ever joined again, I couldn't date you.

He's like a radical who like hates the military. So the fact that like she was able to make it out of the pods, get engaged to somebody and they didn't cover like huge basic things. Weenie. I'm sorry. That's weenie behavior. Yeah. I heard that they had like a really insufferable conversation. And even last night when I found myself with a spare hour and I was like, what should I

watch? I did think about turning it back on, I'm free I'm not going back yeah don't go back but basically Jackie he doesn't want to wear condoms because like it doesn't feel as good for him and she's like not down to go on birth control and so like here we are yeah let's talk about that to me like that's such a toxic male thing to say or do to insist that someone go on birth control and literally like change their hormone composition um it put chemicals in there right so you don't have to put a rubber right like is he getting shit for that because he should he is he is he's getting shit for literally everything he said he also like said this he

she they met her friends and her friends like are really level headed it's like nice to see somebody on this show like who is normal because they're having this like kind of crazy conversation in front of the friends and the friends are like wait what because he basically said like if you ever rejoined the military I could not date you but how could he even date her knowing that she did was in the military and is proud of her service he secretly hates her for sure and not only is she proud of her service she like grew was in the military and is proud of her service he secretly hates her for sure and not only is she proud of her service she like grew up in the military she has like an enormous respect for the community it's not just like this I think some people go to the military to like pay for

college like for her it's like this deep thing I think her something like maybe her dad someone was in the military like it's so much deeper than that and he just like comes and like spreads his cheeks and takes a big shit on it because what because he's literally like a radical where did they find this guy he's crazy yeah there's a lot of that so it's I'm just gonna say casting directors as a whole like you also you really fucked up did you see Jared Freed's video it like went really well he was like okay so he was just like we're all watching love is blind and like Ramsey's like are we gonna talk he said it about the two dreads like just the two little dreads like hanging out the back of his head and I was like honestly I wasn't gonna say it Claudia said I couldn't say it because I'm like it's I didn't know if it was like a like a I don't know

like I don't want to say anything offensive I've never said I've never seen anything like that before I'm like let's not make fun of it because like you never know if it's like connected to something but then Jared Freed said it I was like yeah like oh it's just like this kind of like elephant in the room and now like that he's a BFA like he doesn't get the benefit now that we yeah now that yeah now he doesn't get our respect and our courtesy knowing that he's like such a crazy he doesn't get our courtesy wait I have to see this video quickly yeah no it went so viral I don't even see it on jared freed's page jared freed said the love is brined producers should be ashamed of themselves we need britney and leo's trip miami trip footage before we get to the reunion he's so right oh my god jackie's becoming

a jared freed fan page wait i want to see oh i'll send it to you can you say no no send it to me um i just want to i'll watch it live just so that we can put a pin in there. I saw it on Twitter, like not even in his account. Like it went really viral. It's going to take me a while to find it. That is seriously. Let me just Google Jared Freed Ramsey's. So like, are we going to talk about it?

Like I'm not, cause I don't know the significance of it, but like, I'm glad we're just like. I think it's a style choice. Okay. obviously like anyone there's nothing wrong with you would make fun of someone's pixie cut like I have made fun of someone's pixie cut many times it's just this week just this week Anne Hathaway so yeah you fumbled ball. And I know they probably feel like it's still a win. Everyone's talking about the season. It's not good. No, and I feel like there can really only be one couple that gets married. The scientists? Yeah.

And apparently Tyler does share with Ashley A. in like the ninth episode that he was a sperm donor. Well, yeah, they keep using. That he was a sperm donor. Well yeah. They keep using the terminology. He fathered three children. Right. Which by the way. A lot of people like sell their sperm.

It's literally not a big deal. But he was like actively involved in these kids lives. Up until last year. No. It's good. In the sense that it's vague terminology. Because if he was a straight up sperm donor. Like at the sperm bank.

Like they would say sperm donor. To father three children. Leaves it open to. Like your friend needed sperm. What level of participation? Are you a father? Or were you fathered? And it's, we're just going to leave you with that

before you go on Kippur, okay? That is our show. That is our show. Why don't you wrap it up? Send everyone out. Oh, you guys. In my own earnest way, if I may? Fine. Like, why do you always have to be different? Like do it why can't i do it i'll do it my way thank you guys so much for

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