The Toast - The Final Jam: Thursday, April 25th, 2024
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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast.
Happy Thursday.
That really is giving, not in a good way, Friday energy, you know?
It's giving finality.
I always knew this day would come.
We'd be standing one by one with our future in our hands.
So many dreams, so many plans.
Yeah, Turdy's going home. Turdy's going home turdy's going home it's the final together
episode of the week but tomorrow we'll do one as pen pals which is exciting but bittersweet
because we won't be together bruno won't be with his auntie not only for the show is it harmful
and destructive it's destructive but for us as people, too, we're going to miss each other.
No, of course.
And it's not right.
But it's okay.
But it's okay.
I'm going to make it anyway.
Whenever I say I'm going home in a dramatic way,
I always think of, do you know what I'm going to say?
No.
That scene from, what is that Dakota Johnson and rebel wilson movie had to be single
we're like at the end she finally finds herself and she gets into a cabin he's like where to ma'am
she's like home i'm going home i need an address she's like ma'am i don't know where the fuck you
live honestly hysterical so i'm going home i'm going home i'm going home not the words no i know
oh okay okay i thought oh my god i didn't know i thought oh my god it's called like creative I'm going home. I'm going home. Not the words. No, I know.
Oh, okay.
Okay, I thought. Oh, my God.
I didn't know.
I thought you were.
Oh, my God.
It's called like Creative Liberties.
I thought you were like trying to, you know, really sing.
Excuse me?
Sing me.
Is this our first rodeo?
It's not.
It's actually our like 1,000th, 1,200th.
We got to count.
We don't know where we're at.
We did count recently.
How many episodes has it been
Since we stood in this here room
And did our thousandth episode
So that was about 14 months ago
That we did our thousandth
So 300
Give or take
Give or take
Well
In the honor of that
We've got a great show planned
For you guys today
We've got stories
We've got Brulala
We've got Shulala
Bru is here
Bru keeps working.
More importantly than all of that,
we have the Fiddler on the Roof
kind of recap, follow-up
that you've all been waiting for.
Jackie and I finished
Fiddler on the Roof last night.
That you've been waiting for
since the 1970s
when the movie came out.
Correct.
I wasn't expecting
the turn the film took.
I always knew,
like I said yesterday,
the film was about a family.
I knew it was about daughters getting married i didn't know about you know the political
climate in the village in which they resided and i didn't know the second half of the film was
seriously going to make me want to kill myself yeah because it is about daughters getting married
sure amongst other things but it's really about like jewish history and the plight of the jews
in russia and what happened to
the Russian Jews. Everything from, you know, the first act of the drama, the silly town gossip
kind of fell by the wayside was irrelevant because they had three days to pack their
shit and get out. Yeah. So I was left at the end of the film, like climbing into bed, feeling sad
for sure. And I wasn't, you know, like Lark being like, oh, I'm the title. Like I was just kind of
sat there with your title. You're moving somewhere with your husband while you wait for your family
who's emigrating to America to see if they can bring you over like with your new baby.
It's not really like fun anymore while your sister is living in Siberia because her chosen
husband is a political prisoner and your other sister is dead to the family because she married
outside the faith one and, to like an officer
whose people just kicked out your people.
Yeah, I was, I'm not gonna lie,
living for the cancellation of Chava.
Like, Chava is over party.
I loved every minute of it.
I kept saying, I'm like, we need to get back to Chava.
Like, I need to see the part where her family finds out.
I need to see the part where like,
they literally ignore her and say Shiva for her.
And let me tell you, it did not disappoint. I wanted them to go harder on Chava I really did like I
seriously I wanted Chava to leave there in pieces yeah I am all for the destruction of Chava what's
their last name hmm I don't think they told us like the family name I don't know well I was all
for like I I was the event planner for Chava's over party, you know?
Yeah.
I was obsessed.
Yeah, so it was enjoyable.
It was great.
Good family movie added to the list.
Good family movie, sad.
Like, just don't forget about the unexpected turn.
Yeah, and it just kind of ends there.
And now having seen it in full, like, fresh in your mind, what are your final thoughts
on a potential modern take on the film no the more
we talked about and the more people wrote in the comments like the more i feel like this movie needs
to be protected and and that it wouldn't be and it seriously couldn't be in the modern climate
there's no way that it doesn't turn out like a hot seeming pile of garbage no matter how many
protections are in place they can't help themselves turtle. I did see a good suggestion for a casting in the comments,
and it'd be that Amy Schumer plays the matchmaker.
She's too, like, funny and, like.
The matchmaker is funny.
No, but I feel like I'll be too much like, oh, my God, that's Amy Schumer.
I just feel like all these people that we know, like, cosplay.
Yeah.
And it needs to, I think she's too recognizable.
Okay.
Okay.
And by the way, as far as I've heard,
there are no projects in the works to revamp this film. Someone said the Heim sisters should play the daughters.
No, that's why we shouldn't have a remake.
Yeah, that sort of suggestion is really not understanding
how specific we are intending to be when casting this film.
That sort of suggestion is not in tune with what's necessary.
Somebody also left a comment,
Josh Groban actually converted to Christianity,
which was really heartbreaking.
Bye, Felicia.
I feel like a part of me knew that
because I didn't see him in my head as a Jew.
Oh, I did.
Somebody told me that like somewhat recently
and like it's been my favorite thing that I've learned.
I feel like you're always telling it to me
and I'm kind of like a Josh Groban stan.
You are.
Like amongst Bruno Mars and Kelly Clarkson, like you can add he's of that elk
for me and it didn't have like Jew on his resume for me and you always tell me that I'm like oh
cool but it doesn't stick well God had Jew on his resume but Josh had other plans he converted
outside the faith that's I mean it's hard to be a jew look around no not everyone can handle it clearly josh groban could historically you know what we're seeing right now is not new
it's a tale as old as time so fiddler on the roof what uh platform did we watch it on i don't even
remember it's on prime we bought it did we i don't know well i was gonna recommend i feel like it
might have been disney plus no it wasn't it. It wasn't. Whatever. Stream Fiddler.
Stream Fiddler, Stan Topol.
And I really enjoyed that journey we went on.
And other than that, before we dive into the Fast Five stories, anything you want to tell
us about?
Is there something you're waiting for me to tell you about?
Like a recap of what we do here.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it just, it felt like kind of targeted.
What did we do yesterday?
What did we do?
We reared children.
We worked nine to five.
You see how like the day kind of just goes into a hole.
It does, it does.
And then we had dinner, you know?
Right, right.
There was dinner.
And then there was frozen yogurt.
Oh, there was.
For me, I went for the ice cream I splurged.
Jackie went for hard ice cream.
I went for soft serve.
Hers was so much better at the end of the day.
Make the right choice. Yeah. Ben was just like pressuring us. He's like, I'm going,
I'm going, I'm going. Write your two things in the chat. And I actually put two different orders
in the chat. As did you. Because it was such a sort of hasty moment. And he mucked up my order.
I wanted like one cookie monster ice cream and then one cookies and cream ice cream,
like separate so I could have my experimentation ice cream. And he Cookies and cream ice cream Like separate
So I could have my
Experimentation ice cream
And he put them together
And what is worse
Than like somebody
Like going and
Doing you a favor
And doing it wrong
And you can't really
Be mad at them
Because like they were
The one who volunteered
To go get the ice cream
Yeah but he had
Selfish interest too
Well of course
And by the way
He ate his ice cream
Before he even got home
And seriously every night
He's been like
Ice cream tonight
So we were kind of
Doing him a favor
By giving him permission because we've
been really good and not making him eat alone yeah yeah yeah yeah we were good on our health
journeys but we've been slipping once it became passover and we had to like get creative with
meals and stuff we let the chips fall where they may because potato chips are kosher for passover
but we've been slipping which is also why it's kind of good that we're parting ways because we
haven't been like the best influence on one another so now we'll kind of
like go back into our holes grind grind rise grind and then I'll see you again in like a week
and a half you're talking about physically you're gonna see me in a week and a half I am
you are because we're going to your meet IRL in Austin not a secret we have a lot of things coming
up we're going to Jax's Jax and Turter heading down south. We're going to Austin, which is just always fun and exciting.
We're doing a panel together. We're also doing a spritz meet and greet. So details to follow.
Then I'm headed to L.A. Yeah. For the 5K. So I'll be seeing you in Austin
really soon. Yeah, I forgot about that. I also
total blur. I ran 3.2 miles yesterday, which is the 5K and then some.
My time was 39 minutes minutes I was really not okay
we need to talk about the 5k oh my god okay what what what did I do now we've reached
we've reached the threshold of talking about talking about the 5k wait that's like so crazy
I feel like I literally like never talk about it no I'm being dead serious really I feel like yeah I like when I have like a an update in my run progress like I'll share it in the
pre-fast five banter and I really don't feel like that's that crazy no no if there's a sound off
the comments have I been talking too much about the 5k I'm telling you my ass is not yeah I like
I haven't for sure maybe you haven't I think perhaps you have a low threshold maybe that's
what it is I don't know I kind of have a high threshold for you talking, period.
I have a high threshold of people talking about their passion projects.
I feel like I have a high threshold, but maybe I can't see.
It's giving me blindness, but perhaps that's me being deaf.
It could be blindness on your part.
One of us is blind and deaf.
Does Jackie have a low threshold for talking about the 5K,
or have I been really annoying? Let me know. know also I don't care even if I have been
really annoying there's one more week and what I've done in these last three months is just
amazing right nothing short of a miracle miraculous and the good news is like in a week it's over
unless you've got the marathon bug absolutely not I do like running I do think I'll add it to my
fitness routine three miles is definitely my max I feel like you're on track to run a marathon by November.
Are you nuts? The New York City Marathon. Okay. So when the marathon happens, like I do watch it
and I'm like jealous of all the attention that people get. And I think, oh my God, like. People
could be writing posters for you. I'm going to start today. 364 days till the marathon. Today
is the first day of the rest of my life
but like in theory and it's so crazy because I always think about that one year living around
the half marathon and we were like what are you doing and she did that shit like we literally
went our we dragged our asses to prospect park and we waited for her and honestly the more I
think about it like we didn't give her enough credit it was really like a crazy thing to do
a half marathon is 13 miles yeah I would say like maybe that jackie it's so many miles like
you get hours to do it it's not like who wants to be running for hours i like count down the minutes
yeah i don't i don't really feel like that's in my future but you know maybe play this at my
funeral you know play this after you finish the marathon right when you're making like fan edits
of me when you came to see me live like that's why i would do it for the attention oh for sure the fan edits like lights
will guide you home and she's crossing the finish line and ignite your bones and she's sitting here
saying i would never do a marathon i will try to fix brew bruno's perfect Just the way you are
And when I'm in LA
When I'm not doing the 5k
I have lined up such a stellar
Stellar
Lineup of guest co-hosts
I don't want to spoil that
I'm not even going to make an announcement
I'm just going to drop the episodes
With like these
I think I have four booked
I'm waiting on my fifth
So far
Nobody who's ever been on the shows before.
Correct?
That's exciting.
I don't even know who the final four are right now.
Like, there were names swirling, but I don't know who was booked.
Yeah.
It's giving women in comedy.
It's giving Netflix is a joke fest.
You know, that we happen to be in LA.
That's why the 5K is that week.
All these comedians are in town.
So I really had my pick of the letter. That's exciting. And what's that week. All these comedians are in town. So I really had my pick of
the letter. That's exciting. And what's exciting for me is don't look for me. Your girl will be
at the spa. Love. She will be pampered and pampering. She'll be getting tasks done that
she hasn't been able to get done. It's giving productivity. It's giving women in STEM. No,
that way that week, like I just have to get to that week. Like productivity it's giving women in stem no that way that week like i
just have to get to that week like i have so much i have to just get to that week and then
i'm free it's gonna be amazing no no i'm i'm so excited and the best part is i'll have the toast
to listen to correct and if you guys are looking for me you should stop because you won't find me
i did want to let everyone know i plan on pre-recording these episodes so i land sunday
and i'm gonna record sunday night for monday mond, Monday for Tuesday, Tuesday for Wednesday, and so forth.
So the episodes will be out on time and they might not
be like the most insanely topical.
Like if there's breaking news,
it's going to be giving more of an interview form.
There are certain people, like especially who I'm
recording with on Monday, I want his
takes on the Fast Five. So he'll be doing
Tuesday's Fast Five with me. But for everyone, I'm just
going to take it, you know, day by day.
Great. Co-host by co-host. Great. Because you know that the Fast Five here are just a means to an
end. And if you think that like this show is about the Fast Five, then it's your first episode and
welcome because we are so excited to have you here. So this is an amazing show and we love new
listeners. And the thing is, we'll bring you in with the Fast Five and the talk of pop culture.
You think like, oh, it's a pop culture podcast.
How exciting.
I like pop culture.
But now you're here.
And it's really just about Fiddler on the Roof and Turdy's 5K and how Bruno is an amazing
gem of a man who is in financial ruin, which is why he comes to work every day now.
Speaking of pop culture, Jackie and I found ourselves a couple of days ago sort of at
the center of a phenomenon in pop culture.
And we completely forgot to talk about it on yesterday's show which is giving conspiracy because people
are like why aren't you guys mentioning it and what's so funny is like when it happened we told
you guys what do you mean we told you guys that this was gonna happen oh yeah we said on our
patreon though that they had that vanderpump rules producers reach out asking if they could use a
clip from the toast when jacks was on. Signed like a licensing form.
And we assume that it was from that scene where he's talking to Tom Sandoval.
And it was going to be a clip from the toast when he was talking trash about Sandoval.
But they clipped a segment from his and Brittany's podcast instead.
So we were like, oh, they didn't choose us.
They didn't choose us because that was when Jax was on VPR.
And it was going into the Valley.
So we didn't think we would see Jax again.
But then we said that on Patreon.
And then the producers actually emailed.
They're like, no, it's going to be on a different episode. Yeah, I forgot about that they were like no it's on a different episode like it's still happening
they gave us the air date but it just completely slipped my mind right and then when it aired two
nights ago everyone who was watching live messaged us and our friends texted us and we were so
excited we actually turned on that one moment Claudia took a video of me watching it and we
just like forgot to post the video and then yesterday we forgot to mention it and it seems like we're kind of like giving dodging no dodging
and like avoiding and the spotlight there's like beef maybe no beef whatsoever live for it like I
did cringe because like I was really the one like fanning the flames of that conversation if you
watch they only clipped a small bit but the conversation Jax and I were having which is one
that I started was I felt like at that point in time Lisa Vanderpump's presence on the show was a little superfluous for
lack of a better word and I was asking Jax like what his thoughts were on her being there when
it's like all these younger people and why she was getting involved in their business and he just
went off like if I had started what I thought was like a provocative question he like totally took
the bait and he said that she was superfluous that she was a prop he betrayed she betrayed him like he really went off and so lisa is really angry
with him and that's like a big storyline kind of you know started by charity central to the central
and i wonder if like when they're at the reunion they're like you said that on the toast you know
yeah no they usually don't say that they'll say like and sometimes they'll say not about us but
others are like gossip podcast. Reality TV podcast.
Like juror number nine.
Like juror number nine.
Shout out juror number nine.
I hope you're having a good day.
We still haven't heard from her by the way.
Like.
But if we had.
Maybe we wouldn't have even told you.
Is juror number nine.
Like do they have to stay in a hotel?
Is it like.
Are they locked up?
A high profile trial like that?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
But also.
Juror number nine. Let's do the Gematria of number nine.
Half of Chai. Correct. It's giving Tevye.
It's giving juror number nine as a toaster. As if we needed any more reason to believe. Yeah. So that's exciting. Again toast just kind of like
central to what's going on right now. Yet another phenomena in pop culture.
Phenomenon? Phenomena. One of them is plural. central to what's going on right now yet another phenomena in pop cult phenomenon phenomena one of
them is plural one of them is singular is that what it is i believe and if i'm wrong i like it
my way better and if i'm wrong so be it so what look i didn't get struck oh so i'm wrong what are
you gonna do about it leave a comment leave. Create engagement. No, the women's basketball team is still in the finals.
That was the men's.
You know we ended up being wrong about that, right?
Did you ever figure out?
Because what they were telling us was different.
It wasn't that it was men's and women's.
It was like Iowa State versus Iowa University.
We were talking about the wrong team.
Don't care.
So what?
I'm still a rock star.
I got my rock moves.
And I don't need you.
Because, like, yeah, sure, we were wrong.
But, like, seriously, so what?
Like, it has no actual.
Bearing on society.
Bearing on society.
Or even whatever conversation we were having.
Like, sometimes if we're wrong and, like, that changes, like, the message or message or the whole it's rare it's rare then it requires a correction but like seriously okay i really guess
and i can't believe like you think i talk about the 5k too much like i'm really not feeling
self-conscious i'm sorry no no but it's these things are important to know i like to you know
fancy myself a self-aware girl yeah i just want to make sure like you're right you know, fancy myself a self-aware girl. Yeah. I just want to make sure, like, you're right, you know?
Maybe, hopefully I'm not.
Maybe it's just, like, me because I'm on the receiving end of it.
Perhaps.
Or maybe it's because, like, I've been living in your house
just sort of, like, running every day and, like, you see me.
You know, and, like, I always make, like, a big deal of it, you know?
No, actually.
Maybe I'm just, like, kind of rubbing into number one's faces.
Maybe that.
I could see how maybe I've been doing that, yeah.
I'll do better.
And you'll listen.
No.
And you'll learn.
No.
Never.
Tell me about the stories.
Grud.
Grud.
Grud.
Grud.
That works for me.
If it works for you,
that sounds good.
No,
I'm excited to talk about some of them.
Not all of them.
Oh,
some.
I'll be real.
I'll be real.
Okay.
I mean,
some of them, it's like you guys are excited for us to talk about them.
But if I'm being real, like.
Oh, I feel that sometimes.
Yeah, it's giving.
Like whatever.
No, but it's good.
I think there's some really interesting conversations waiting for us on the other side of the ads.
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Our first story, Rumor Swirlin'.
Swirlin'? I'm tired of rumors startin'. Except this isn't like a rumor.
Hold on. It'd be weird if it weren't true. I'm sick of rumors starting except this isn't like a rumor um it'd be weird if it
weren't true i'm sick of rumors swirling i'm sick of being girly never never i'm not tired of either
of those things but word on the street is that travis and tailored were on a private couples
getaway with gg adid and bradley cooper um at carmel by the sea this weekend as her album dropped
the four some were double dating.
No, wait, I'm trying to find the phrase.
Hold on.
Taylor Swift to me is, she's a near perfect person, you know?
And the more I learn about her, like later,
like the older she gets, like the more I love.
Her fatal flaw, that's the worst thing about Taylor Swift
is her friendship with Gigi Hadid.
Cause there's like fewer people on this earth.
I despise more.
And honestly,
I'm probably one of the people Gigi Hadid despises most to her and her
family's antisemitism,
just oozing out of every poor.
Um,
and it's,
it's,
it's very tough.
And you know,
the fact,
and I feel like they've always been like really strong,
but I feel like their friendship has never been stronger.
Like she's spending this weekend.
She's like the top of the crop like she's like Taylor has a lot
of friends she's always had a lot of friends but there are I think like three or four of the
celebrity elk that like are her rider guys and Taylor's friendship with Kelly Taylor made me
like her so like as if I couldn't like Taylor more I love Kelly Taylor we've been on the Kelly
Taylor train before everyone else like it was so much cool now but we've always been to me that friendship I was like oh this is a woman of
taste you know yeah and this is like who she who do you think she's closer with Gigi or Blake Lively
Blake Lively okay yeah yeah we stand um no it's really really tough it's tough the Zionist 50s
definitely have a hard time with this and I don't know how many of us there are but I know there's a me Margo and Liz Woods and we struggle we struggle yeah and that's how
she chose to like celebrate her I know they're really close I'm sure Travis and Bradley are
enjoying each other because also Bradley is an Eagles fan right yeah so I'm sure he's excited
to be with the brother yeah of the Eagle legend of the eagle legend was way hardcore and not to make this story about me
but like you know it's tough it's tough yeah it's also tough because there was a time when like i
literally died for gg hadid like the real housewives of beverly hills cody simpson
no really before that like when she was on the real housewives of beverly hills and like really
her star was taking off and she dated cody simpson and she did that i always think of this one like
australian swimwear company that was like one of her really big first campaigns like the way i was
obsessed with ggid like was so crazy and it was because i was obsessed with housewives and it was
just like this natural and she was like my like i was obsessed with her and i can't believe like
that's she also like looks so different she was like really bleach blonde and she was more bikini
not bikini she was more um commercial commercial like looks so different. She was like really bleach blonde and she was more bikini, not bikini.
She was more commercial, commercial looking than high fashion.
And that was like a lot of the work that she did.
Like when she did that campaign for guests and she like fainted and her mom was like,
have a bite of an almond like that was iconic.
And I can't believe that's the same person.
She's lived like so many different lives.
We all have.
Yeah.
But yeah, this is a story like I really can't talk about much further because like I'm just
blinded by rage. Yeah, I understand. understand well there's part two to this story oh and it's about Donna
Kelsey oh yeah she's running her mouth he's running her mouth over Taylor's album so she
was at QVC's Age of Possibility Summit in Las Vegas on Wednesday where she was also overheard
talking about the fact that Taylor was on this double date so that's like partially the source for this but also I saw it on Jumoa anyways she
said I listened to the whole album and I listened to it all morning long when it was released she
said this on QVC this part no she said uh yes she told People Magazine at QVC's summit she said I
was just very impressed she's a very talented woman and I think it is probably her best work
we love that
Donna Kelsey has gotten media trained because the last time she was asked about Taylor on the
today show it was like clusterfuck like yeah and she was trying to be respectful but ended up like
trying to be like aloof and like coy and ended up being rude yeah so we love that she's listening
and learning yeah she was asked if she has any words of wisdom for Taylor and she said she doesn't
need my advice on anything.
In fact, I hope she will give me advice.
Yeah, she's clearly listened and learned.
And we love, we stan.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, you know?
Like, cool, Donna.
Yeah, no, cool.
We love, we love.
Do you think Donna, like, is worried?
I don't think Travis is worried about this,
because I don't think Travis is a worrier.
He doesn't give worry word energy.
But I think mothers worry about their sons.
Of course.
Do you think that she's worried what sort of album would come out about Travis if things go south?
Because I think she knows the type of person she raised.
And you can say what you want about Travis, but he's not a bad person.
Yeah, you think he'll behave in a respectable way.
I do.
Although there were a lot of rumors about him prior that he was like sort of like a cheater.
Yeah.
Like football athlete energy.
You can't pull that shit.
You can't pull that shit in this type of relationship.
The whole world is watching.
But regardless of what happens in their relationship, if it were to end, which at this rate, like
it's not.
It never will.
But if it were to end, like there would be songs to come out about him, you know?
If it were to end, like, there would be songs to come out about him.
You know?
And, you know, not every person that Taylor's dated and slammed in the past is a bad person.
She just, like, she's sharing her feelings.
Yeah.
Right, right.
It doesn't make them a bad person if they're in a song. Right, so you're saying, like, she knows the boy that she raised, but that doesn't make
him immune to having, like, a song written about him that he broke someone's heart.
Yeah, right. No, I don't think don is worried honestly i think they're all just like basking
in the glow of whatever the hell is going on right now it's so strange like they're just
like living life you know when things seems like things couldn't be going better yeah it does seem
that way so let's just enjoy this moment without ruining it like thinking about the future and like
all potential bad outcomes you know yeah i'm just saying no i'm
just making conversation no i know you're saying podcast which is always good thinking through
things it's always good but no to answer your question no i don't think she's thinking that
especially because like this album is such a slammer in terms of slamming people and when i
think back on her last few albums they actually weren't no because they weren't written about her
like midnight was about a lot of,
like some songs are about her personal life,
but it felt more about like experiences.
It was just more random in a good way.
You know, there's like this sort of battle,
this debate between, you know, online swifties
that Midnight is a breakup album
masked as like, you know, a pop, pussy popping song.
Okay, that's fine.
I just feel like it wasn't,
other albums from earlier in her career,
like Red is the Jake Gyllenhaal album.
Yeah.
And the Connor Kennedy album.
And Speak Now is-
Is John Mayer.
Right, and Torture Poets is the Maddie Healy,
little bit of Sprinkle Joe.
Folklore, Evermore and Midnights
don't really have that sort of identifier.
Neither does, and Lover is a positive album.
About Joe.
No slam, no hate, no shade.
And Reputation is not about relationships.
No, it is.
It's also very, the songs that, some of them are obviously about Kim
and like, look what you made me do.
But a lot of them are, you know, call it what you want.
Good, positive.
Positive Joe songs.
Right, so we haven't had like a slam in a while.
Yeah.
A full album slam.
And I think it's just like she's putting everyone on notice.
We were too.
She's putting everyone on notice.
If I'm not and I'm listening, I'm saying like Travis like after I.
You bitches forgot.
But this is what I do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
Our next story.
Some update in the saga between Rebel Wilson and Sasha Baron Cohen.
Oh my God god these the most
unlikely feud i'm obsessed rebel wilson's we were at barnes and noble and we like almost bought her
memoir because like it's been enticing for sure but listen to this her memoir will be published
in the uk with the sasha baron cohen allegations redacted rebel wilson's memoir will look slightly
different when it hits bookstores in the uk rebel rising which was published in the u.s on april 2nd debuts in british bookstores
on april 25th with some passages redacted they said we are publishing every page but for legal
reasons in the uk edition we are redacting most of one page with some other small redactions and
an explanatory note those sections are a very small part of a much bigger story and we're excited
for readers to know rebel story when the book is released.
Among the redacted elements are details of her allegations about experiences working with Sacha Baron Cohen
on the set of the movie The Brothers Grimsby.
She wrote that she felt harassed and humiliated by Sacha Baron Cohen,
and he vehemently denied the allegations.
A rep for him told People when the book was first published in the U.S.,
quote, while we appreciate the importance of speaking out,
these demonstrably false claims are directly contradicted by extensive detailed evidence,
including contemporaneous documents, film footage, and eyewitness accounts
for those present before, during, and after the production of the Brothers Grimsby.
Well, two things.
One, you know, the laws are different in every country.
So it's possible that like, you know, she is more guilty in the UK and maybe perhaps
that's why she took it out.
But also I do feel like in a sense, redacting it is like an admission of guilt.
Yeah.
That's not the best look.
Yeah.
There, his camp had said, um, like they clearly did not fact check this book in the UK.
You can't just write shit shit about people that's still
the law this is a really bad look for rebel yikes and her memoir memoirs of a rebel memoirs of a
rebel like it's giving like i'm a liar but by the way did we just even talk about the name of her
book because i think it's kind of a great name rebel rising i love it yeah it's not memoirs of
a rebel but it's number two and it's certainly not memoirs of a great name. Rebel Rising. I love it. Yeah. It's not Memoirs of a Rebel, but it's number two.
And it's certainly not Memoirs of a Streisand.
And like this does call into,
like of course when someone has a bad experience,
like two people experience it differently
and someone, you know, they're.
There are three sides to every story.
His, hers, and the truth.
Their version of it is their version of it.
And that's how they felt,
regardless of the facts of what happened.
Like there's the facts
and then there's your feelings about it.
Like, and you're free to write about your feelings.
But to be so obvious in who it's about and slanderous and then it might
come to be that the facts don't really line up with your feelings yeah that's not a good look
no but it's clear that uk law has um a little bit more specific is a little bit more specific when
it comes to facts versus feelings and how do you redact a passage in a book three days before it hits shelves?
Like, it's printed.
So what, is someone at the booksellers crossing it out?
I don't know, actually.
Or perhaps when they went to print in the UK,
because I think it's like a different version.
It's different imprint and stuff and a different printing press.
Maybe they've known for a while that they were going to cut it out
because of the law.
I don't think so, because we just heard about this a month ago.
Books start printing like months in advance.
Also, if he does sue her, the fact that like the excerpt was released prior to the book
being published and, you know, it's all over the Internet, like it not it being redacted
in the UK, like barely helps her case.
Not her case, but it helps his.
Yeah, of course.
I'm saying like it's definitely an admission of guilt.
Yeah. his yeah of course I'm saying like it's definitely an admission of guilt yeah
because if something is 100,000 factual and able to be backed up yeah you have absolutely no reason
not to publish it you're not doing anything wrong right so it just makes you think it does make you
think and you know what good for him for standing up for himself because people just like when you
make allegations like that about someone. These days they just stick.
And who would we be to say, like, oh, that didn't, like, no.
You know, if she says, like, that's what I experienced, like, of course.
But if that's not what happened, you have to defend yourself.
Yeah, because those things just stick.
And they're like, well, then you just get a label on you.
Of course.
You know, alleged harasser, Sasha Baron Cohen.
That's how they'll refer to you in articles for years to come.
Right.
Yeah.
So it's
important to speak up it's also important to defend yourself agreed our next story is some
crazy legal news cln harvey weinstein's 2020 rape and sexual assault convictions in new york have
been overturned so stay tuned for the deets so harvey weinstein's convictions in new york state
for rape and sexual assault have been overturned according to a decision on Thursday, April 25th.
So he was reported he was sentenced to 23 years in prison.
He was charged after being accused of forcibly performing oral sex on a woman in 2006 and raping another woman in 2013.
The overturning of the convictions comes after his lawyer claimed that the client didn't receive a fair trial due to decisions of the trial judge,
in particular allowing three women to testify against him whose allegations weren't included in the case
and permitting prosecutors to potentially confront him about his general behavior.
His lawyer claimed that these decisions by the judgment that Weinstein's character was on trial rather than the allegations at hand.
So this has been thrown out, but he is still in prison because of um a
conviction in california so it's not like he's getting out of prison oh okay yeah but like what
like are people dumb which people like you're this kind of reminds me like of oj when that woman
marcia clark like shit the bed yeah like this is do better you're literally a lawyer do better
like there clearly was reason for his thing to get appealed.
What you just said, like having women on trial who aren't a part of the case, like whatever
that obviously is against law in some way.
Like, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
Yeah.
Moron.
Like.
That's the prosecution.
People who can't do their jobs like really irk me.
Yeah.
So that's really crazy that that was thrown out.
When I saw, I thought like he was like getting out of jail and we'd go through this trial again.
Where is he in jail?
In California?
I thought in New York.
I thought in New York too.
Like which prison?
Is he in like a real prison?
I think so, yeah.
Like.
I don't know which prison.
Not like a camp, like where, you know.
No, because it's not.
Where they sent Felicity Huffman.
No, it's not a financial crime.
Right.
Where is Harvey Weinstein in prison?
Did he go where Teresa went?
No, she was in a financial crime.
Mohawk Correctional Facility in Rome, New York.
Now let's look up this facility.
Okay, it is, yeah, Rome, New York.
They have a website.
It's an American state prison for men
in Oneida County, New York, owned and operated by the New York they have a website it's an American state prison for men in Oneida County
New York owned and operated by the New York State Department of Corrections and it's a medium
security but also has a maximum security unit and a special housing unit yeah there's also an
inmate list interesting oh wow where are the most comfortable prisons I'm now on like some list
guess where the number but this is all over the world.
So do we really care?
Norway, for those who are wondering.
Damn.
Damn, Daniel.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yes.
It's number four.
Oh, well, that of course does change things.
Yeah.
No, to answer your question.
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week that i didn't get your opinion on but which i would love but buckingham palace has now started promoting its strawberry preserve days after
megan marco releases her line of jam yes however story kind of makes it seem like they launched
jam just because she did this is a years-long project so as we stated last week and it's also
jam season like sorry there's this is a big nothing burger for sure but as we stated last
week megan marle started ARO.
She launched her jams. What is it called?
American Riviera Orchard.
She sent her jams to her friends.
American Riviera Orchard by the rural juror.
Exactly, and on Wednesday,
Buckingham Palace's shop's Instagram account
shared a video promoting a Royal Strawberry Preserve
just days after ARO's jams.
I think this is not like a slight
or these two things have anything to do with each other.
I think it's Jerry, Jerry, jam season.
You think there is room for all of us in the jam market?
I think we all have jam products that we want to promote.
Interesting.
I just want to say the Buckingham Palace gift shop
is an amazing place to shop online for gifts.
Like I have placed a few orders from there.
The joy, like you have to check out the Buckingham Palace gift shop is an amazing place to shop online for gifts like i have placed a few orders from there the joy like you have to check out no jackie's gift shop jackie's nutty but those cookies like you could get biscuits everything is like so fancy looking got like books oh my god some of the best
kids books that i got i got from there i've got like some history books it's great like you have
to look at this website it's insane she's not wrong i'm not gonna lie she is not wrong stationary a planner like an apron just the cutest thing so anyways just like shout out
to that so you don't think this is battle of the jams i don't but i do want to talk about jam
and aro i love aro i hate the name and this first product makes absolutely no fucking sense to me
but i love that she's doing pr boxes because like seeing who's getting them chris jenner got one I love Aero. I hate the name, and this first product makes absolutely no fucking sense to me.
But I love that she's doing PR boxes, because seeing who's getting them,
Kris Jenner got one.
Perfect.
She's kind of the only name I know.
Me too.
But it's perfect, and it's a start.
And to say I'm disappointed in the direction Aero has taken,
when I first was introduced to the brand and where they would be going,
did I think that jam would be?
No.
I thought we were going to get a Dutch oven as the first product or perhaps um tea towels you know i didn't expect this um and it's an orange jam which i think is disgusting i love strawberry jam
i love raspberry jam i do not like grape jam and i don't know what's in orange jam apricot perhaps
and it's not for me But it was presented with lemons.
I feel like it has lemons in it.
Lemon jam ain't a thing.
No, but like you saw the gift basket had lemons.
I thought it was more like a stylistic thing, you know, like the season.
I think maybe it was a tie-in to the nodes of jam.
Nodes of lemon in the jam.
Yeah.
Interesting.
I think the whole thing is like being done really poorly.
I'm shocked. It's giving the done really poorly i'm shocked the final jam
it is giving the fact this is real this is me that's literally megan she's like you guys think
you know me but here's my jam and buckingham palace is i'm too cool too cool i'm too cool
to know you they're like yeah we've been at this camp for six years.
Good luck, Mitchie.
Good luck with your jams at the final jam.
Literally, it's giving Mitchie.
She's Mitchie Markle.
Okay, content idea for the social, like the final jam.
But Tess has Charles's face on it and Mitchie has Megan's face.
Oh, that's funny.
I don't associate the Buckingham Palace gift shop with Charles.
But yeah, I guess it's his shop. It's Lizzie's It's Lizzie's shop. Lizzie is ripped so it's Charles' shop now. I feel like Kate when she's well and
good and looking to take something on should really
become the face of the shop. No but I feel like the shop is perfect like the way you described
it like I wouldn't change a thing. I know but you just said it's Charles' shop.
He's the king Jackie. Yeah and he lives there and she doesn't Kate doesn't not yet Camilla shop Camilla has a book club
no and one thing about Camilla is like I actually like over the last couple of years they've done
a good job like they've gotten to me like I I kind of get it I get it um nothing about her
aesthetic is enticing to me yeah no she doesn. She doesn't give off, like, even Nancy Meyer, Coastal Grand.
She gives off, like, old lady butterscotch candies.
Like, she gives off bad vibes, aesthetically.
I said it.
Yeah, but I think she should keep doing what she's doing.
It's working.
I don't need more from her.
No, no, I don't need her taking over the shop.
I need a, like, direct-to-consumer marketing branding expert.
Like, somebody needs to help, Megan.
This brand is, like, very slowly. You don't think she has all the help that money can buy?
There's no way all the help that money can buy
came up with American Riviera Orchard as a name.
But it did.
And a first product being jam.
But it did.
It's so bad.
She has all the help that money can buy.
It's really bad.
And I'm really disappointed because I was excited.
You don't think,
I spent so much of last week like analyzing this jam
and I ended up
and like I-
What did Stassi say about it?
Oh my God,
Stassi.
Was she disappointed?
She was disappointed
that not for the same reason
as you.
She's disappointed
that Megan has just like
decided to become an influencer
and has a product line
and all this stuff
and that like it's so,
she thought Megan
was going to change the world
she said.
And like all this stuff they talk about like philanthropy and this and that and then just to she thought megan was going to change the world she said and like
all this stuff they talked about like philanthropy and this and that and then just to see like she's
just going to become like any other like commercial energy yeah like where is the humanity where is
the charity where is the people's princess world yeah like she thought megan and harry had what it
took to change the world and i think we both agree that if that's what they wanted to do they could have accomplished way more staying in
the royal family yeah and now she's really disappointed that like none of those things
are happening oh man she's coming from a place of earnestness no and and clearly sadness it
sounds like yeah damn yeah like disappointment in a different way real disappointment yeah no
honestly like it sent a chill through me when she said it
chilling stuff chilling stuff but no where i ended with the jam is i think the jam is a jumping off
point i mean we're starting small and we're gonna build out we can't just start with a dutch oven
we're not gonna be like crusade in a day no of course say wasn't built in a day this is her
lip kit for lack of a better analogy the difference difference being, when I think at the time, especially when I thought of Kylie,
I thought of lips.
When I think of Megan, I'm not thinking of jam.
What do you think of?
I definitely think of like more.
I think that's the problem.
I think that's the problem.
I don't even know what I would suggest.
Yeah.
But when the brand was described to me, even though I didn't like the name, I really liked when they announced the brand, what it was going to be.
There was going to be like a partnering Netflix show.
It was going to give very much Joanna Gaines energy.
Yeah, still happening.
Yeah.
And I think, and also like selling food online is like weird.
Do you know what I mean?
Well, jams last forever.
No, I know.
But like, it's just weird.
Like, okay, Kroger.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, am I going to get it on Instacart?
It's just weird.
Yeah.
I do like a jam, though.
I love a jam.
Not an orange one.
I love a honey, too.
Maybe that'll be their next product.
Yeah.
I want honey by David Beckham.
He has his own bees.
Oh, right, right.
I was like, okay, what's the correlation?
Yeah, he takes honey seriously. Yeah, right, right. I was like, okay, what's the correlation? Yeah, he takes honey seriously.
Yeah, I respect that.
He respects them.
I hope one day I'm in a position to take honey seriously.
I mean, it's definitely a privilege.
You know, like, but right now I'm just, like,
buying the bear from the store.
No, no, and I personally, like, cannot relate to anyone
who's not buying the bear from the store.
Yeah, but that's a goal of mine.
And if you don't buy the bear from the store,
like, you should just, good for you.
I'm not like saying anything bad,
but like you should just like every day,
like stop and be grateful.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Because you're like, you're on a different planet.
If you had a bear, you wouldn't know what it's like.
But you don't.
Right.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story,
which is some sports news?
Oh man, yeah.
One of our favorite athletes reggie bush is getting
his heisman trophy back 14 years after forfeiting it come again so reggie bush has had his 2005
heisman trophy back as the heisman trust announced wednesday the formal reinstatement of the trophy
to bush amid what it calls an enormous changes in the college football landscape so the decision
comes after bush had forfeited his heisman trophy in 2010 in the wake
of significant ncaa sanctions for usc which included bush receiving improper benefits during
a trojan's career that spanned from 2003 to 2005 as part of the decision on wednesday the heisman
trust is returning the trophy to reggie and a replica to usc bush will again be invited to all
future heisman trophy ceremonies beginning in the season. It's like awkward showing up to like a facility you've been uninvited from for many years.
Like I wouldn't go.
Hey.
How y'all doing?
Literally.
Yeah.
So I guess the NCAA rules have changed and now like what he did back then would have
been allowed.
So they're giving him his trophy back.
Well, then like recently changing the rules on like, you know, deals athletes can make
and all these different things.
It's so long overdue. I think like people were having that conversation for so many years
um but you know at the time like not to be such a narc like Reggie did like break the rules like
you know what I mean now that the rules have changed like he still broke them when they were
old you know what I mean it's like kind of weird like yeah you're not breaking the rules now but
you didn't do it now. You did it then.
Yeah.
I think it's okay.
I'm all for Reggie Bush getting his flowers.
I just think conceptually, like, that's not how rules work, you know?
Yeah, unless, like, the rules were made to be broken.
And it's like we were wrong for that rule.
Chilling.
And we were wrong for the way that we treated you, and this is an admission of that.
They were wrong for that rule.
And he deserves his trophy.
And now let me ask you a question.
Did O.J. Simpson get his Heisman Trophy removed?
That's such a great question.
I believe he had one.
Now don't, I get.
Also, Johnny Manziel got the Heisman Trophy.
Yeah. Did you watch his documentary?
I didn't.
It was good.
I needed to know about him.
He did win it in 1968.
Did he get it?
What happened to his Heisman Trophy?
Somebody bought it at auction.
But I meant like, not the physical one.
Yeah.
No, it's such a great question.
It's giving willy-nilly.
The strange but true tales of O.J. Simpson's two Heisman Trophies.
Yeah, I don't know.
Did he get it stripped?
But it's now owned by somebody in Reno who collects that sort of thing but
Johnny Manziel won the Heisman Trophy the year that Manti Teo was up for it and so that made me like
hate Johnny yeah but then I was like okay well I want to hear about like how how did someone beat
Manti and I watched his documentary which was also like so fascinating but he broke rule after rule
and time and time again but he still is a member of
the heisman did johnny ever go to the nfl i yeah and he flopped majorly oh no it's not oh he had
like literally more natural born talent than anyone and he completely squandered it like
first of all like okay aaron andrews yeah well i watched a documentary so i'm an expert um he broke
rules didn't work like was drinking and not and doing drugs and couldn't even like pass a urine
test sometimes and like not training the way an athlete should train and he still played really
well for a long time under those circumstances but like he was a liability within the nfl and
what team was he on i don't know let me look it up but it didn't i feel like he was a liability within the NFL. What team was he on?
I don't know.
Let me look it up.
But it didn't go well for me. I feel like he's a name like that I recognize.
But I literally know nothing about him.
Maybe I shouldn't watch his documentary.
Yeah, you should.
I think I was in an elevator with him once.
It's so funny.
I was in TSA PreCheck with him once.
Oh my God.
He's just kind of a man about town.
And the paparazzi were following him.
On the grounds. He was selected as the 22nd overall pick but despite his success he struggled with consistency and his tenure was dot dot dot damn overshadowed by off-field controversies yeah
exactly he was released by the browns after the end of the 2015 season following further
controversies during the 2016 offseason he was not signed by another team before the start of the season and spent two years away from football
until he returned with the tiger cats of the cfl in 2018 he was later traded to the alouettes
during the season but was released the following year and rendered ineligible to play in the cfl
after it was determined he violated the rules of his contract. Not the CFL. This boy is a mess.
Not the CFL.
Yeah.
Damn.
Well, it's just a name that I recognize it now.
I feel really learned, so thank you.
No, you should watch the documentary because it's a crying shame how he squandered natural-born talent.
I hate watching documentaries like that.
You won't feel sorry for him, though.
No, no.
I mean, enraged.
Wasted potential. Yeah. Like, could won't feel sorry for him though. No, no. I mean, enraged, wasted potential.
Yeah.
Like could play hungover and still like slay the house down.
So good.
Imagine if he tried,
imagine if he stayed sober and like worked out every morning and,
and trained,
you know what it's giving that year.
Michael Phelps,
like stopped trying and was Ryan Lochte kind of got his shine when Ryan
Lochte like wasn't even that good.
Michael Phelps was just sticking it up.
Cause he smoked pot one time, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That Michael Phelps pot thing was so funny.
And then they were like, it's Stevia.
Or not Stevia.
What did they call it?
Salvia.
He took the Miley way out.
Miley, yeah.
That's one of my favorite celebrity tropes.
Salvia?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that is our show.
Final together, but not final of the week.
Because tomorrow is Friday.
We'll be back.
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And that's fine.
Remote swirlies are still swirlies.
Thank you so much for listening.
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