The Toast - The First Monday in May: Monday, May 4th, 2026

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

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Jackson, Claude, favorite show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody had a parjolicious, Definitious Weekend. Speaking of Parjoliciousness and Definitiousness, it's my girl. Definitely hard on the definitiousness, wouldn't you say? Do you think?

I think so. That's good. I feel like you bring the parjiliciousness. I bring the Definitiousness. I personally am okay with that. It's a beautiful blend. It is. Blended.

Blended. But I did have a part delicious, stuff, this weekend. Thank you for asking and wishing that upon me. So did I. It was jam-packed. Like, seriously,

I just went on a four-night run of going out. On Wednesday night, I had my Mahjong dinner party. Thursday night, I had my other dinner party. Friday, I hosted a dinner party, LGBTQ plus Shabbat.

And then Saturday night, I went to Pol-Labar. Like, when I tell you, this life is not for fucking me. Like I'm exhausted. Yeah, I understand. I went out for dinner Friday night and Saturday night. And yeah, I can say I did it, you know?

I'm on hiatus. I got home from my dinner on Saturday at like midnight. Claudia, I tell you, I got home for my dinner on Saturday at like 11, 15, and the kids were still awake. I don't believe you. They made it for us to go. Oh, I love them. You can't even be mad.

No, oh my God, not at all. I was like so excited to come home and they're up. Okay, let's all over the sleep. Of course, that's my dream. Yeah, no, it's honestly like not that bad, but it's crazy. And that's like, that's why we don't go out. Correct. Well, not only did I do all of that, I did so many crazy things, including flat ironing my hair.

Like, every now and then I just feel like, what if I just whipped out my flat iron? It looks good. Does it? Yeah. Your hair really can't look bad. That's very sweet. Thanks. Wow, I was expecting.

I'm like blushing. Oh my God. I'd be happy to give you an insult with that as well. No, no, no, no. Just leave it there. Set it down. Say less, bestie. Set it down.

I thought I had my hair and then I also brought Rubin to meet Mark Schoenweather yesterday. Like the two hadn't met yet. Oh, my God. Maybe more iconic duo. And let me tell you something about babies. Like they really, they bring out just like this energy in people. Like obviously Mark, it's an older gentleman. When I tell you, I've never seen him so lit up and enthusiastic.

He was like jumping up and down. It was so cute. It was so fucking cute, like bucketless moment for me. That's precious. It really was. And let this be your sign to make a donation to the Mark Shenwetter Holocaust Education Foundation. Of course. Make it your sign.

Do your good deed. Make it your sign. It's giving Tuesday. Make sure to give. Oh. Speaking of yesterday, not yesterday, excuse me, Friday, which just feels like yesterday, Mark's five whole shows. We have made it an entire week.

Let me just update my board here. Without making it a story. Without talking about Licks versus Lex in a formal capacity. There was kind of some stuff to talk about over the weekend. Like, I'm afraid that we might. We might delve in. I didn't choose it as a story, so it won't be a formal capacity. But I did like want to talk about SNL.

Oh, yeah. I wasn't even going to talk about that because like that was so unfuny. Like good on them for like knowing what to talk about. But now like just do it better. Oh my God. That was crazy. and like misogynistic, I find. Hasteful towards women.

Absolutely. I'm Alex and I'm Alex of the night. Well, they're both more successful than you. Like, I honestly found that insulting. I completely agree. So reductive, which is my new favorite word. That is my new fucking favorite word. It's a good one.

It's really a good one. It's reductive, don't you find? Yeah, the segment was reductive. Insulting to women. It was also F1 weekend, which Alex, which takes place in Miami, which Alex was the queen of. But there were a couple of things

that happened that of course, just like because I'm a shit starter and like I like to see things through the Lix Lex Lens. Of course. Well then we'll do an F1 recap story and we'll sneak it in there. It was also Derby weekend. Oh my God. I was just tearing up on TikTok watching my queen, the female horse trainer, just like, have you seen the video of her reacting from every angle?

The one where she's watching the race. Yeah, where she's kicking her feet like the horse. Did you see it from the back? Oh, no, I didn't. Okay, I've seen it from the front, the side. The back is the best angle because you don't see. she's like standing up against the wall and she's kicking her legs on the wall, like imitating the horses gallop.

You have to watch a video from every angle. Like it just gets better every time you see it. And she made herstery. Like that's some real herstery first female trainer to win the Kentucky Derby. Absolutely. Like some of women out here are talking to talk. No, there's multiple different types of women. She's galloping the gallop.

Making fun of other women on SNL and diminishing their accomplishments in a quite reductive way. And then there's a horse trainer whose name I can't remember, but she's a queen. Yeah, Queenie. Quainee of the way. Quine. Yeah, it's kind of like a big weekend for events. For racing, whether you like to race horses or cars. That seems to be the theme. Theme of the weekend. The weekend, racing, yes. And theme of the weekend, my husband's birthday. My husband celebrated his birthday. That's why I had such like a pop and weekend, you know, bus club. Yeah, you normally would never go to dinner. Hyundai Palisade because we went out for dinner Friday night as a family and then we went out to dinner, the two of us Saturday night. And we actually

tried to remember the last time we went out to dinner the two of us. And I could not remember a time. And I remember last year we didn't go out for his birthday. So it's literally, I think over a year since we went on. I feel like that's actually not that crazy. So we had our annual dinner date. Did you take your annual photo? We didn't take our annual photo because I wasn't loving my outfit. But now I realized like even if I didn't post the photo, we should have time capitol. Add the photo because like it's just a marker of time, the significance of the passage of time. You actually should just take one today so you have a marker for this year. We got a lot of good like family photos this weekend.

But, you know, our couple's photo didn't make it. So, and you know, to our credit, we do go on some lunch date. So it's not like we haven't been on a date. And you're just not a dinner date. It's just hard like with bedtime. I mean, look, it didn't work. I love lunch. Love a lunch date.

Invite me to lunch. Always for you lunch. Lunch. Yummy, yummy. What else can I tell you? Because you and I haven't really chatted offline about our weekends. I was so busy with my festivities

and we had, you know, like a little soiree yesterday. You know, some of the basketball guys came over with their families. We got a ball pit. Highly recommend. That's cute. That's cute. Highly recommend.

And the kids slept so late this morning because they were so wiped out from the ball pit. It was parjee. Oh my God. Ruby also slept till eight. I actually felt like weird till 8 a.m. I was like,

Teenager. Yeah, I was like having my coffee, I flattered my hair while he slelted and I was like, I was like, I was genuinely like so, like confused that I just heard of what you do with your hands. And I didn't want to blow dry because I didn't want to use my dice and air up because I didn't want to wake him up. So that's why I flat ironed my hair. Thank you for reminding me. It all makes sense. But you know what this weekend is Mother's Day, my very first.

How are you celebrating? Isn't it sick that it's going to be Ben's second Father's Day and it's my first? Yeah, but it's so much more special that it's your first. And obviously we're going to make such a bigger deal of it. Of course, I'm expecting like the biggest gift ever. Like I'm expecting a push prize in 2.0 and I'll actually be mad if I don't get one. Does he know that?

Oh, I feel like he knows. You've made your expectations clear. No, I haven't because I want to give him the opportunity to rise to the occasion. Like, no, if he doesn't understand the gravity of this moment, then he's not the man I thought he was, honestly. I'll just, I'll give him a ring. A's not the man I thought I was. I'll drop it in a combo.

Yes, we're actually taking a trip. To the cape? Yeah, pretty much. We're taking a little trip. You're not going to tell us where, like I'm... No, what are you to come shoot me? Right, right. One thing about me, I'm never going to tell people where I'm going on this podcast.

Like, I will lie to the day I die. So you can come kill me? I don't think so. Will you text me where you're going just so I can imagine it in my head? Yeah, I don't think you know it, actually. And I can set the scene. It's just like a parjee. Like a pargy little spot.

Yeah. And then we're actually ending it on Sunday. We haven't, um, we haven't got the tickets yet, but, you know, Sunday is the first,

or no, maybe the second game of the next playoffs. And we're going to go. I told Ben, we could all go as a family. I actually think that would be so fun because you know, like the next playoffs means a lot to me because we were watching when Ruby was born. Right.

And like, we can go. But I told Ben, like, obviously, like, like sit in a sweet like I'm not gonna like you know you can't just go so it's gonna be a real expensive weekend for men but I'm okay with that the sweet life of grubin rubin no I'm so excited like literally the level of excited I was to go to st. Bart's and like pot my pussy like doesn't even

compare like I'm so fucking excited for my trip oh my god I can't fucking wait like I'm so excited that's really cute and like let let's just like load up the car with shit and go you know like let's fucking go yeah yeah yeah I'm excited for you even though like one thing about me and it's not me it's actually my husband's like, I can't load up my car with shit ever because my car stays fully loaded. It is so annoying. We have one car.

We literally have one car. Ben uses it as a storage facility because just a baseline in there, we have his golf clubs, which takes up the whole trunk and like always bare minimum. Like a couple cases of spritz and then the travel stroller.

The sprits. I can't, I cannot load up my car. Like I don't have, it's so, when Ben pulls up, it's almost always a fight. Like he goes and gets the car. I get everything ready. and then he comes and picks us up.

When I get in, it's always a fight. Like, there's shit everywhere yesterday. The back seat was full. I guess he had interviewed Snooki. She gave him a couple of bags of merch. Like, just take it upstairs. Like, bring it home. He just loads up the car with crap.

Yeah. Damn. I know. That's your cross to bear. It is the source of so many arguments in my house. I can imagine. Because it's also crazy because it's like, Claudia has a car.

So, like, if you go and pick someone up, like, from the airport, say, it's like, oh, no, we actually can't. fit your luggage. Oh, I forget where, like, and this has been, this is a, um, a hereditary thing, because Ben, this is a learned one time Ben's used his parents car to like pick me up. I think from my dorm room in college, I was like moving out. He came and picked me up with a completely full car. I was like, where am my suitcases supposed to go? Like I was, I was, I was moving. Right. And there was a full car. Oh my God. It was insane. It's a, it's like a decades long argument.

between us. Yes, you need a bigger car. We have a huge car. It's not huge. But you know what? It's not huge. The next car, I completely agree. The next car, like I'm getting a Chevy Suburban or an Cadillac escalade. Like, I needed an Uber black. Yes, yes, you do. We're three people, two and a half. Like, it's insane how much space we take up. Grubin. He takes up all the space and his maxi-cozy. Yeah, he uses Charlie's car seat. Even though, like, I was reading, TikTok will make you afraid of everything. I was reading, like you really should not use a used car seat.

But it's more so like a thrifted car seat because you don't know of like the safety. Like it's you. I know like it still works. And also like when you get into a car accident, you're supposed to immediately replace the car seat because like the, you know, it's sort of like. It could.

The mechanics could have been. It's a big one. Like it's a one done. It's a one time thing for sure. But that car seat just sat there in the Tesla for a year and a half. It's totally fine. It's really, aside from all the crumbs, it's good as new.

Well, we got our car like detailed. And you know they clean the. car seat. They also took it out. I could not figure out how to put it back in. I was about to literally go to my local fire station. You know, if you take your car seat to the firehouse, they know, like, well, like, they know how to do it and they'll teach you and they'll do the whole thing. I could not. It is the most complicated thing on the planet. Yeah. Those things will have you just. They will have you institutionalized. Yeah. And a blind rage. A blind rage. It's insane. Like, and you're like bent over trying to watch a video. Oh my God. Like misery.

When I went to take the Maxie Cozy out of my car, like for the final time, like, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. It goes back together because a direction was not followed. It was like, you know, superhuman human strength, like ripping it out of my car. Oh, good. So maybe you do need a new one. That's good. That's good.

Maybe you do need a new one. Well, if the fire station didn't say anything, then it's fine. I didn't go. I ended up being able to figure it out. But also, like, in the city, you're doing it, like, while double parked and, like, people are hugging you. It's so fucking stressful. There's not, like, a peaceful place to,

install your car seat. Yeah. No, there's not a peaceful place. You have to do it at like three in the morning just so there's no other traffic and you can get a moment

they'll steal the car. So true. So I wouldn't call it peaceful. It's so difficult. It's not peaceful. It's just quiet. Yeah, maybe you could do it during your weekend

this weekend. You have to leave the city. Literally. You have to leave the city to install your car seat. That's why she's taking a relaxing weekend. Oh, and classic true to us form when we first,

when I was like, nine months pregnant and you want to start doing prep things. So we installed the Duna car base. In the middle of like a busy road, it was so loud. It was so stressful. Ben pulls up. The car is completely full. I wanted to kill him.

The trunk was full. They must have been having an event like spritz buckets, spritz and umbrellas, spritz placements. Oh my God. That I was like moving stuff around and I put the spritz buckets on the floor and they're like cracked and he was so mad. And I actually ran into like two toasters who were like, oh my God, dirty. when I tell you, like, there are two toasters out there who have genuinely seen me at my worst.

Actually, that happened yesterday. The lowest possible thing happened to me. You fell. No, okay, the second lowest thing. So we went to the Short Hills Mall, which is like a famous mall and I've never been to. It's just like a very, it's just a mall, but it's like famous. And we ended the cheesecake factory. Of course, it was delicious.

And then we started walking around. But, you know, within five minutes, I had to go to the bathroom. Like so bad. And we're in the middle of the mall. I don't know where the bathroom is, so I run into free people. And I just, I'm like, where's the bathroom? And I'm like, I'm in distress, if you know what I mean?

And the sales associate is like, turty. It's like, seriously not now? Like, I'm not okay. I was like, I will come back to the free people store. Just please point me in the direction of the toilet. It was up inside second floor of Bloomingdale's. I made it within an inch of my life.

There wasn't like a special one that she could give you. Like inside the free people. So when free people sales people have to go to the bathroom they go up to Bloomingdale's Yeah doesn't seem efficient did you buy anything good at the mall? Did you buy anything good at the mall? You froze. So did you. Yes, I did buy something good at the mall Miss Satchel lose birthday is this week so I had to get our present of course Of course I already did that Ben got some pants Classic and

And yeah. Love it. Did Ruby like them all? Oh my God. It's a magical place for children. It is. It's very like stimulating. There's a lot to look at lots of people. And one thing about my son, like his party trick is that he waves to quite literally anyone. And he was in a real waving mood.

And like everybody thinks they're special. Like oh, he waved me. It's like, yeah, okay. Who are you? Like it doesn't matter. And everyone was just like, he was literally holding a meet and greet. Like waving, shaking hands. It was so cute.

Kissing babies. Literally. That's so cute. You need to take him to American Dream. I know. Once he's a little bit older, malls are everything. The American Dream,

like, it's the craziest mall. That's why when I went to the Short Hills Mall, which has been like really amped up, it's just a luxury mall. Like they have, I don't think they have Hermes, but they have everything else.

Like Chanel, Prada. And it was beautiful, of course, but like it's just a mall. It's like a building with stores. Yeah. And American Dream has just like, if you guys don't know, American Dream is this insane mall

in New Jersey that has a water park, a roller coaster. It's Legoland. A ski mountain. Yeah, a mountain. I learned to ski there. A mountain that you can ski on. They have Angry Birds Mini Golf. Yeah, it is the,

if you've seen any of Mr. Beast's videos about, like, hiding in a mall, he does it at that one. And they have concerts. The Jonas Brothers hosted JonasCon there. At the water park. They have like Shrek World. Every character, they have a, they have roller coasters. It's fucking crazy.

They have a hockey rink. We took in a women's hockey game. Oh yeah, right. It was an international game. I think it was like India versus Lebanon. Literally, that's why now when I go to a mall, I'm like, oh, it's just like a mall. It just sets the bar really high. Yeah.

Because American Dream is not a mall. It's the craziest place you'll ever know. They had a jerky store. We got kosher beef jerky. They literally have everything. It's also like, I don't know if it's owned by Jews or it's in a very Jewish area because it's like almost all kosher. Like there's so many kosher options.

If you go there, it literally looks like mini Tel Aviv, like ever and there is religious. And it's across the street from MetLife Stadium, like where Taylor Swift performs, let me tell you, it's bigger than that. Like just if you're not from New Jersey, the tri-state area, trying to, like, get for scale, it's three times the size of MetLife Stadium. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. Oh, and there's a yard house. Oh, of course. That's where I went.

I pre-gamed for Morgan Wall in there. And what's the name of Mr. Beast restaurant? Beast Burger. Beast Burger. I dined there. Oh, they have a facility. They have a Beast Burger. at American Dream.

Oh, interesting. All the restaurants are, like, fake, like you never heard of them before. I'm shocked. They have a yard house. They all look like, I don't know, AI generated. Oh, I love that. Like, kind of, remember that video game,

Dream Life where, like, you would go to school and, like, go to your job and look at the bulletin board? Like, it looks like that. Yeah, it does. With, like, the fake storefronts. For sure. Fake storefronts, for sure. The food is, like, 3D printed.

Yeah, right. Yum. Yeah. No, American Dream is, like, the future. Yeah. You guys are living in the past. And like they have these motorized, like, rocking horses that like the kids, it's like these huge stuffed animals that you can ride around the mall.

It's, it is the craziest place. Tories Arus activates there with a miniature train. And you can ride around the mall and a train. They've literally thought of everything. It's the craziest thing. Honestly, couldn't be more perfectly named the American Dream Mall. Yeah. It's the American Dream.

What show were we watching where, was it? blind like Minnesota where they're known for their mall of America. Mall of America. It has nothing on the American Dream Mall. No. And Mall of America had us in a chokehold from those Mary Kate and Ashley movies. Absolutely. No, and it is maybe, it was at one point really impressive, but now I don't find it that. Doesn't hold a candle. You can literally skydive at the Mall of America. I mean, at the American Dream. Yeah. No, it's wild. So if you have a chance to go, check it out. This episode is not sponsored. Once a year we just go on about the American Dream Mall.

I'm on their email list, so I like always see the latest and greatest. And it hurts, you know? It's just crazy. You asked me on the Patreon if there's one thing I miss about living in New York. And I said, no, it's the American Dream Mall. It's proximity to the ADM. Absolutely. That's the one.

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Out here in the cold. Waiting for a church. Okay, drama. Waiting for a jurtra. Waiting for a jurtra. Our first story, F1 Miami Grand Prix was this weekend. The Stars Route, also Kentucky Derby. So let's just say, you know, both racing weekends. I feel like that happens every year. The two races are on the same weekend. How do you choose which one to go do? I do actually think that like the types of people that are drawn to each event are so different. Like F1 is much more sceny. It's very Instagram.

Like it's like it's very Miami. And Kentucky Derby is like so southern about like Madison LaCroix. Yeah, where there are a bunch of reality stars there with Amazon, I think. They made a bunch of content. A bunch of Bravo people. Yeah. That's where Madison was. I wouldn't see that.

It was like Ashley Darby, Erin Leachie, Madison, Ashley I. Gianina, of course. Gianina, your favorite. What's the Kentucky Derby without Giannina, Gia Belli, Bilacalae? Balacalae. Balacalay, Hortzman. My faves. They're going strong, by the way.

I'm a real reminder that Gianina and Blake Hortzman, like, are happily ever after. It's actually sweet. It's so sweet. They have one or two babies. Oh, I think one. One. Cute. But yeah, no.

And I think that last year I asked, like, which one would you rather go to? Miami Grand Prix or Kentucky Derby. I think the F1. Yeah. So F1 popped off. There was like Carbone Beach. All the girlies were in attendance. I obviously was like over fixating on Stasi and Alts Earl hanging out because just anything

Alex Earl does these days like I'm looking at through the Licks versus Lex Lens. And anyone who publicly is engaging with either of them is like putting out some sort of message I feel. And it wasn't just that they took a photo together, which of course, it's a, Alex are on their friends and she was, she was her first guest on Get Rayall with me. Well, so, yeah. But the picture that Stasi posted of the two of them, they're like laughing,

like cackling. It was just giving like, we're laughing at you. And I think the caption was like a time was had. It was just giving like, we're laughing at you. I'm team Licks. This isn't the first time that Stasi has entered my mind in the Lix Lex Lex Arena

because yes, she historically has been friendly with Alex Cooper. She went on call her daddy, I think twice and then has done like unwell events, but then she did get Rayal with me. Which actually, I don't think that's a big deal. She did get Rayall with me.

No, you can do both. Because also, there are some people who, like, have been. She did get Rayal before the beef was public. Well, was public, yes. Now, every. Some of us in the know have been knowing. But I mean, look at Mickey Glazer. She did the two in the same week.

Like, yes, yes. But Nikki Glazer is not from this world. Yeah. She's just like doing press. Stasi's like friends with people. But you didn't have to make a choice until the Monday after Coachella. Oh, today's the Met Gala. Today is the Met Gala.

Yes. Oh, my, when I went to Polo Bar on Saturday night, it was so busy and so backed up. And I was like, what the hell is going on? But then I realized it was a Saturday night before the Met Gala. And I was trying to have my head on a swivel. It's like so annoying when you're like at dinner with someone and they keep looking around. So I was trying not to.

Who were you with anyone? Who were you with? Ben's friend Pete Alonzo, former Met current Oriole and his wife Haley. I guess everyone's on a swivel looking at Turty and Pete Alonzo. No, it's so crazy. You were the celebrities. I'm not like big in baseball. So I don't really know.

But like people are fucking obsessed with him. And I've gone to dinner with him a lot when he was a player in New York. And I was wondering if now that he's moving. over to Baltimore, like maybe people were going to like hate him. No, they just love him so much. Like, they're like, come back, come back. Oh. It was really sweet.

So, and I was having such a good time. I really wasn't like looking around. Although I did see Adam Oseri who like knew Ben, of course. Like, you know, the head of Instagram. Yeah. But that was only like celebrity. I saw. I guess Instagram, they like do like a sponsorship at the Mac Geller.

I think you were the celebrities at Polo Bar. That's what I'm trying to say. Maybe the celebrities are the friends we made along the way. No, because you were them. Yeah. I know you're right. They existed and they were you and Ben, celebrity and Pete. Pete.

Totally. Pete Alonso was a celebrity at Polo Bar. Yeah, I guess it really was Pete. And so everybody's looking at you guys. So true. It's so hard. I have no privacy. So Mech Alice tonight, the city.

I was also walking like on the Upper East Side by the park on like Friday and Saturday and they already have like the barricades up. There's no people there. I was just like, why is the whole road barricade? And then I realized I was near the Carlisle. So tomorrow's going to be a fun toast. Not that today isn't. No, always, but it's a big weekend.

Yeah, but we came off of a big weekend. So Miami, Kentucky, I guess everyone's going to head to New York. Any other Licks versus Lex notes that emerged from this weekend for you, aside from Sassie and S&L? Yeah, neither of the girls. Oh, well, the publicist as well. Alex was making, like Lix was making a big, she was with Cape Bailey like the whole weekend. Who was the four?

Yeah, but it's Cape Bailey's event. Yes, no, but I. I just felt like it was like a flag in the sand. No, I feel like maybe you're just noticing it because I think that they're always like that. I just felt like it was like, as my kids would say, nana nana pooh-boo. I feel like neither one of the girls like acknowledge the SNL. Like to be referenced on SNL when you're like a digital creator is such a big deal. And they've referenced Alex once before Cooper and she like made a whole video about how crazy it was.

And obviously they didn't do that this time. But like do you like it's still cool even though I guess it's like this awkward thing because it's your beef. Yes. But I think that it was also offensive. Like it was. I agree. Really like they obviously didn't know anything about either of the girls or the beef.

Not that the beef is so real and it is a lot of like say it. No, I'm going to say it. Like that. Yes. By the way that that part is clever. But the way that they were talking just so obnoxiously like you know, stupid girls. Like I think it was offensive. Yeah.

Brianna chicken fry caught a shout-up. That's exciting for her. Yeah, it is. It was funny. No, it wasn't, but it was something, you know? Yeah, no, and it is such a big deal culturally to be referenced on SNL that the fact that neither one of them even, like, commented on it or good or bad. I'm curious. Well, I saw a headline that Alex Earl responded to it, but it was like.

Oh, maybe you know, when websites, like, make a video. like a horizontal video for the article. I do know when websites make a horizontal video for the article. And I fucking hate it. And I'm never going to click play. I'm going to click X instead. So I didn't get to find out what she said because I was not watching that video, that ad supported video where they had like.

Maybe let me just see it. Alex Earl. Their own host like narrate just an Instagram comment. She reacts to the sketch. She, a follower commented under a TikTok video of Alex Earl getting ready for F1 and asked if she watched, oh, asked if she watched the parody. And then Alexra responded, yes, I'm laughing with a crying emoji.

Great. Okay. Also, Olivia Rod Rieger hosted. She did. She's so cute. Like, she's so cute and pretty, and she's so talented. And I think that when you, because I was seeing a lot of, like, discourse about her current song and then her new song.

I don't know if you saw that, like, the leader of her fandom made a public letter, an open letter that was like, we're worried about your album because this song sucks. Like there's been like a little bit, not backlash, but it hasn't been as widely, positively received as her previous works. And I just feel like there's really only one place to go from where she started, which is down,

because her first album was like so historic and so legendary. And I actually think her second album was such an amazing follow-up. Like you don't usually follow up to something as iconic as that with something honestly just as good, if not better. Guts is so good. Or no. Sour. Yeah, guts is, which is a,

first one. I don't remember. But I just think she's such a cutie and she's very talented. And I wish her the best. I really do. Yeah. And you saw she was like joking about Jake Paul? I did. And then I saw Jake Paul responding and he kind of like wasn't was not receiving it as an insult. He sort of refused to be insulted. I did not know that they were on the same show. I knew that Jake Paul had a brief Disney channel stand as Bazaard Vark. I didn't know Olivia Rodriguez was on that show. No, me neither. What did Jake Paul say about what she said? He did a green screen video to the, monologue where she basically said, you know, I started my career on Disney. I was on a show called Bazaarvark. Actually, one of my castmates is Jake Paul. And, you know, we used to always talk about

our futures. And it was actually really patronizing what she said. She was like, yeah, I mean, I would tell him how I wanted to write about the complex emotions of girlhoods for girls my age. And he told me he wanted to beat up old guys. It's a girl, chill out. You're a pop star. Okay, you're not Shakespeare. Like, what you do and what he does is actually not that different. Like, you entertain people. It was a little patronizing. And if you wanted to be insulted, you absolutely could. But Jake Paul, I think, was just excited. And he made a video.

And he was like, let's go. He was just like letting it play in the background. He was like, yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. It was very, it was, he took it like in a sweet way. That's really cute. Yeah, even though it was like kind of rude. Of course it was.

Yeah. And it's like, she just, the way she described what she did and the way she described what he did, like, you're both entertainers. And it's like, I read about the complex emotions of girlhoods for young coming of age women. And he beats up old guys on Netflix. Whereas, like, you, yeah, like you write songs and he, you know, is achieving the physical manifestations of his dream. It's just words, you know? Yeah, for sure.

Well, that's what the stars were up to this weekend at their various races and parties. I am excited. What live stream are we watching for the Mechgala tonight? There's like never, there's like the Vogue one, right? Have they announced who's hosting? Yeah, they did. Vogue Mecgala live stream. I'm so cute.

curious because they've stumbled upon some like really good host and I feel like they've made a lot of careers for like Emma Chamberlain. I don't think she did a lot of hosting before. And then sometimes they kind of like miss the mark. I feel like they did announce a bunch of people. I mean, Lala Anthony, hopefully she gets the gig again. She's so good. But I don't know who's Vogue, who's E, who's like random Instagram live stream. Okay. Host. Okay. Host Ashley Graham, Lala Anthony and Cara Delavine will be taking viewers through the fun and fashion with Emma Chamberlain reprise her role as a red carpet correspondence. So Lala Anthony and Emma Chamberlain are proven.

They have an excellent track record. I think people really like them. They know them personally. Kar-Delavine does give me that same vibe where, like, I think she's friends with a lot of the people and she has a big personality. And same way. I don't know if Ashley Graham is friendly with so many of them, but she does have a good personality.

She's very professional, Ashley Graham. You know, she can do any job that's given to her, I feel. It's actually so true. She's a hard worker. Not one entertainment journalist. I guess Lala Anthony technically, like, has a history. Yeah, she does. Did you see Northwest had like a album release party or something?

I did. I saw about it. And her mom is it there? No, I thought she was there. It was last night. Kim's in New York. No, I thought she was there. I saw a picture of her wearing like.

I only saw Kanye. I don't know. Like I said, I didn't look too closely. She's really young. I feel like when I look at her and I'm like, oh, she's like, yeah, 16. Like they're finally like I'm urging her. No, she's literally 12. Like it's insane.

Yeah, and it's like I'm not the target demo. I'm like an old lady. It's, you miss me with that. Hard on the old lady. Yeah. Our next story, some new bed bed news. Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden, welcome baby number three. So Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden have shared that their third baby has arrived.

He wrote Cameron and I are happy, excited, and feeling so blessed to announce the birth of our third child. They shared the infant's name, which is Nautis. And he said, welcome to the world son. We love life with our family. our kids are healthy and happy and we are grateful. So they, as a reminder, have a six-year-old named Radix, a two-year-old named Cardinal, and now a Bebebne named Nautis. I just love these two.

I love the whole, like, who are the Madden brothers' parents? I feel like they're both such fine young men who were like, even raised in the public eye and ended up being as far as I know, like, true stand-up husbands, partners, fathers. they both love their private little lives and they love their wives and they love having babies and then you see them aesthetically and you just wouldn't think that

because they're like rockers. Tatted up bad boys. Tatted up rogers. I just and I just fucking love that Cameron Diaz like yeah girl do live your life like don't give us nothing you know like she doesn't act she gives us nothing she gives us a glass of wine

yeah and avaline but like continue that's what I want for her I want you to continue giving us nothing and continue enjoying your inner peace. Turned to the right. Absolutely. So mausel to the Dias Maddens. Nautus Madden.

Beautiful. I think it means like Voyager. Okay. Voyager. Yeah. It means sailor navigator Voyager, one who embarks on a journey and fears not the unknown. Cameron Diaz is also 53, which I just feel like needs to be said. That's my queen right there.

Yeah. Yes, Ms. Say. Yeah, though, you know. Putting the biological clock on its head. Well, we don't know. How the conception. Yeah, but say, like, yeah, you can be a mom at 53. Yes.

Yes, you can. And as Edna Turnblad once said, You're timeless to me. I've been singing so much hairspray. Like, bath time is when I sing nicest kids in town. I like put on a whole performance and like, it sounds really good. And I've been watching also your.

friends and neighbors with James Morrison is in. And so I've been having like a lot of Courtney Collins energy flowing throughout my home. And I love it. I think it's literally the best movie ever. It's the best soundtrack ever. I just, I just wanted to say that. So who do you think Ruby is in Hairspray? Oh, Link.

Obviously. I'm Tracy. Like. Link, he's so Link Lank. And I'm Roo. Oh, every afternoon, And the o'clock shines for, yeah. I can't.

We can't go down this road because I'll never stop. I know. Like we already did our American Dream one. Like we can't have two random tangents. Honestly, we're, the laws of physics don't allow us to do a hairspray monologue and an American Dream monologue in the same episode. We'll have to do it tomorrow. We're at our quota for random shit.

Like, because I think we're at like, yeah. We're fine. So fine. We're fine. We are at our quota. Unfortunately, we have to stick to the news now. Oh, we forgot Queenie and Weenie on Friday. I didn't forget. I completely forgot. I just want to let you guys know. I dropped the ball. I'm sorry. Because the installments mean everything to me and they mean nothing to Jackie.

And that's why the show is so amazing. Because like the duality of both. Because of the installments. No, no, no. Because like I'm like such a pusher for the installments and you're such like a hater that like our energies are so opposite that they actually like neutralize one another. Of course. And that's important in general. having a yin and a yang, so to speak. Our next story is some slamo news. First, Whitney Levitt makes a shock Mormon Wives' exit announcement

during her Chicago finale show. So, Whitney Levitt did her last show on Broadway, as Roxy Hart in Chicago last night, and she announced in the middle of the show reading like a fake headline where she announced that Whitney Levitt, Whitney Self, is leaving the secret lives of Mormon Wives, and she's not filming.

But she's not filming. Certainly not. I don't think this comes as a surprise. I think the way she announced is like a sleigh also. She didn't even like make it a big deal. The show is like, is it filming? Is it not? It's kind of a hot mess.

And she sort of managed to untangle herself from it. And I can't imagine like a healthy person wanting to go back to that. Like she seems really happy. And now things are getting so messy. I'm sure this part two of your story is the voice memo from Jesse Draper. So I feel like she's successfully made a career for herself outside of this particular show. And it really does not serve her. her family, her mental health.

Like I can't imagine wanting to be a part of this group. It seems so toxic. But I think a lot of them like feel so rooted. Like they have to. She doesn't even live there anymore. Yeah, no, a lot of them do have to, but she's successfully broken free.

I think she has big dreams. And I think at this point it's holding her back. It's, you know, it's not the vibe for her cool New York scene now. Like, yeah, she's like artsy, farty.

And I also think Connor is doing a stint on Broadway. Oh, cute. I'm very curious what's next for her. Like, I know she's going to do something great. I just, I really am curious to see what it is and how she parlays this into like full time career. So there is an off-broadway show called 11 to midnight, which is two TikTokers.

It's called 11 to midnight. Okay. And it's not a musical. It's a dance show. It's like this couple who like dances all over TikTok, I'm sure you've seen, they started off like dancing to ringtones. I don't know if you know them. They've gone on tour and now they've like produced an off-broadway show that's like a dance,

Strabo-Gaganza, like Heather Morris from Glee is in it. And they have like a lot of celebrity cameos. And Conner's joining it, I guess, to do magic. I'm crying. You know where he needs to go? He needs to get a spot on the gazillion bubble show. That's not magic. There's a little bit of magic.

Remember when we saw it? He needs to be the new Steve Max. Yeah. But remember when we saw gazillion bubbles, he would be perfect in a role like that. That show was insane. there really was, it's perfectly named, there were a gazillion bubbles. Just when you think, like,

there can't be a gazillion that seems, like, then they actually water poured you with bubbles. Yeah, it's insane. It's actually dangerous. And then when you're leaving the whole floor is slippery because sticky and just like drown, waterboarded it. Douse dozen bubbles.

Yeah, I do wonder what, like, career move is next for her. There was talks about, like, a Whitney spin-off for Hulu, like, Secret Lives of New York Wives or whatever, because I do think she's planning on staying in New York. York. And I love Whitney, but I don't think that that would be interesting. No. A solo show about her family. Does she want to do more Broadway? Does she want to do more performing? Is she going to act in movies? That I don't know. But I do think it's the right decision. I think she wants to be in the arts. And I think that, you know, she could like one-off things are

great, but I do think she will try and make it in movies. And I think she has a really good shot. Me too. I think she really proved herself with the Chicago run. Like not only did she rise to the occasion, like vocally, choreographically, she has huge selling power. They reached, like, insane. They broke records. They sold out really every single show.

It was like $1,000 a ticket, still to this last day. So overall, it was enormously successful for her, and I feel like she really proved herself to the industry that she's not just like a reality star. And it was not like a fluke on dancing with the stars. Yeah, or maybe she'll get like a major role in another major Broadway show. Like, and not just like a guest role, but a leading role.

I don't know what shows are on Broadway right now. I know, but... I know, but like Broadway really doesn't pay the bills. No, it doesn't. But I don't feel like it's all about money for her. I don't. No, I think that her Instagram alone sustains their life plenty. And this is more for passion.

She has a lot of passion. Yeah. So I think if she got like an amazing role, not... I mean, again, I don't know what's on Broadway right now. But like a... Honestly... Fanny Bryce. I could see her.

Okay, no. But like that's the only show I know. No, I know what she should be. I know it needs to be done. Hairspray? Amber von Tussle. It always comes back to hairspray. Because, no, no, that actually is the perfect role for her.

Or what about, like, I guess there's not enough dancing if she were to join Wicked as, I could see her as Elfabah. No, the thing is, is that she's not like the most insane vocalist. And so some shows like Fannie Bryce is so vocal, you don't dance. But Amber von Tussle, like, sings, like, lightly and dances on the Corny Collins show. It's really perfect for her. They're not bringing hairsprite. So we have to work. The problem is that.

It's not on Broadway. We have to work within the framework. Let me think. Let me think. What's on Broadway are now? That's why I keep saying, I don't know what's on Broadway. I mean, she could always be on the Lion King. She could.

It's like eternally on Broadway. She couldn't. Her kids would love that. So cute. Other part of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives story. So a lot of drama emerged on Saturday and Sunday. TMZ posted a voice note that Jesse Draper had sent to Dakota. and or his roommate.

And Jesse had preemptively told us about this. She, roommate's name is crew. She made a video on her Instagram before this and was like, by the way, I'm being told that there's like a voice memo of mine being leaked to TMZ. And she also then said that like this voice memo going to TMZ is proof that the video of Taylor that went to TMZ

is clearly coming from Dakota. She did try to like deflect a little bit. But basically she was getting out in front of it. And I understand why. If you listen to the voice memo, I feel like it's actually a really bad look for her. It is. And when she put out her video being like,

this is coming out, it came out before all this stuff happened, and I was feeling this way, and I was still married to Jordan, and basically saying like, you know, you need the context of why you've been sent it. And, you know, it's obviously very manipulative that it's coming out and just know that.

And so I was ready to just ignore whatever I heard. Me too. Because I'm team Jesse. And then I listened to the voice note, and I'm still team Jesse for sure. But it was this moment not too long ago where she did a complete about face. She's anti-Taylor.

She wants... Yeah, on the voice memo. She's speaking on behalf of the girls saying that... And what's crazy is that she said on the voice memo that production's being like so toxic. And then she goes on call her daddy talking about a production for Secret Lives is not like other production. They're so amazing.

So yeah, it's just like kind of too-faced. She goes on to say that like a lot of the girls need to see the video. That production needs to see the video. Yeah. And it sounds like in that moment she wants the world... Yeah, she wants the world to see the video to know what's going on. So here's what's in the message. She tells Dakota the cast is a line in holding back on any public support for Taylor as the Bacheloret is about to come out.

She says they know the truth about Taylor and she claims production and management on Slamo is gaslighting the cast by painting Taylor as a victim and Dakota as a liar. Jesse says the show's cast views, the show's cast views the situation between Taylor and Dakota is not only serious but also dangerous, particularly when it comes to Taylor and Dakota's kids. And Jesse says the group feels a lack of accountability from Taylor would be harmful. What's more, she suggests it might help things if the cast members were able to see videos of Taylor are being violent. And she singles out Michaela's being the most vocal about wanting to see the footage.

It's unclear if the cast ever saw the footage relating to the incident. But a couple of weeks after Jesse sent the message to Dakota, TMZ obtained and publish the video. And I just want to say, like, if I was a Jesse hater, which I'm not, I feel like I'm actually like kind of a little bit of an apologist, I could definitely see a world in which this video came out publicly because of Jesse. Like she started picking it up and throwing it around, sending it to people, clearly. Yeah, like wanting it to surface. I don't know what made her see it.

when she saw it. And I also don't know what made her ultimately change her mind. And now she's Taylor's biggest supporter and best friend. I'm sure Taylor hearing this is probably devastating for Taylor. But Taylor, I think, is a forgiving person and has made so many mistakes of her own that she's like, okay to forgive. But I do think this is a bad look for everything that Jessie has said publicly in the last month.

You know, she left out this part. I know. And for, right. And for me, the difference in what she was saying on the very, voice memo versus, because I did watch most of her call her daddy interview, the polar opposite takes is actually like a little scary, A about production, B about supporting Taylor, see about like who's the villain, who's the abuser, who's the victim? And I gather that especially in situations like this, like it can be confusing, like who's actually being the manipulator. But just to hear somebody

like really talk out of both sides of their mouth, especially like around the time the call her daddy was filmed and this voice memo was sent, like, isn't that far apart? It's just, it's a little spooky. Yeah, to do like such an about face. And also I think she says, you know, I was still like wrapped up in Jordan at the time and Jordan's friends with Dakota and so I was seeing it from their side. But like she's been on to Jordan for a very long time like to blindly follow him and his friends and I don't really think that she was that blind two months ago. Yeah, it's about here's what I'll say as a Jesse Apologist. It's a bad look. Um, it's a bad look. But I, I'm holding space. I also think the situation with this show changes every single day.

And she kind of exhausting. And like she couldn't have updated us. And this, on Wednesday I was feeling like this. But then on Thursday I found out this and Friday I started to believe this. Like you know what I mean? So when she went on and call her daddy and all that stuff, it's probably where she landed. But we didn't see the journey and the journey is ugly. Yeah.

I also think her making the video preempting the voice memo, maybe drew a little bit more attention to it. I might not have even listened to it. I agree. I might not have listened to it. But I do think it helps soften the blow because if I did listen to it and I hadn't heard from her, I'd be like, bitch what? Yeah, right, but I think it made it bigger. Yeah. Not the greatest moment, but I also just think it sort of takes Jesse out of the rent.

Like I still really like Jesse, but it sort of makes her like not a credible source on the matter at the moment, like going forward. Yeah. I feel like credibility on this particular subject is harmed. And that's okay. Like, well, let's hear from Michaela. We'll get you on the next one. Let's hear from Michaela. Also some slamo news.

Taylor Frankie Paul had like a big day in court last week with the world's, Most sensitive judge. Did you see this judge? I did. And then did you also see like the hug between Dakota's mom and Taylor? Yeah, she said it was like a goodbye. But they finally came face to face as they fought for custody over their two-year-old son ever.

Their legal teams went back and forth. But ultimately the judge weighed in, spit in facts. What a judge saying, of course Taylor's reactive and she needs to learn how to control her motions and that's not a safe environment for a child with a parent who can't control how they react to things. but like Dakota's manipulative, Dakota's calculated, why is Dakota filming Taylor in these moments?

When there are kids around and kids' safety's in trouble, put the phone down, help the kids. Of course. If you care so much about the kids, you'd be helping the kids, helping those kids. And of course, you know, he mentions how the videos start

only in the middle of the conflict, not at the beginning. He's on to him, you know? Now I'm telling you, the judge has a daughter who like knows the situation and watches a show. And I don't even know how much of the situation he knows,

but he like read it. He read them to fill. And so I think, I think that going forward whatever arrangements that will be made, I think the judge is the full picture. So what was the custody settled at? It's like two, in two weeks they have like another custody hearing, but he also said he had concerns about supervised visits for Taylor because that's like

another form of control. And I don't really know where they're at right this minute and where like wherever is so sad. Yeah, it's sad. But it seems like, you know, the case is in as good of hands as possible. Yeah, yeah. So that's the latest. Yikes.

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join Kim to see the Fear of 13 on Broadway. So Kim's producing a Broadway show, very interesting. Of course she is. But more interesting than that. Her family came to support, including Kylie and Timothy, Hand-in-Han. This is really great. I know Kim didn't do it for this,

but her producing a Broadway show was really great for her little sister's relationship because Timothy, like, is in the arts. Spends a lot of time in New York. Yes, and so them taking in a show where they know the producers, just very on brand for them, especially because, you know,

Timothy was in a little bit of hot water with the live performance. With the art. Yeah. I heard that they booed him and threw tomatoes when he walked in the door. Right.

So this was really great for her little sister. And I'm sure that there's a lot of it that happens behind closed doors. But don't you feel like we really haven't seen Timothy engage with the family, like publicly, socially a lot? Yes.

She's always going to his stuff and they're going on date nights, the Knicks games, the Golden Globes. But, and I'm sure he does come over for Shabbat dinner. But we never see them together. He's like always in Palm Springs and playing those silly games

with them and maybe. in the videos. But we don't know that. Is he? I think so, yeah. He's in the background. Yeah, he's in the background. But he's not filming.

Literally. But I also think that this means Kylie and Timothy are going to walk the the mecala carpet together. Oh, I think so too. I didn't even realize that that was up for discussion, but I guess historically they both show up separately. Yeah, but they've been walking. They do everything together.

The Knicks games. I'm sorry, they have to. No, but they did the Oscars, the Golden Globes, everything. Oh my God. They have to. Yeah, they will. for sure. If they don't, I'm seriously going to be mad at her. But I also feel like the girls,

just kidding, I would never be mad. No matter what stage they are in relationships, they always walk alone. Like even when she was with, did she do with Travis Scott? Eventually, like she walks alone and then they get together. But do they do any photos together? Yes. Really? I feel like she's always by herself.

I remember seeing a picture of like Travis, Kylie, and Kendall. Also, Kim walked with Pete, which was crazy. Oh, that was actually insane. She should have walked alone. Yeah, well, she did both. You know, She has her solo shots, but then she also has her feet shots. When they were all black, she was with Travis Scott. Yeah, okay.

And the purple. Yeah, she's done it a few times. If I'm a designer, like, I would be dressing Kylie and Timothy because they should sit at the same table. They're in love. And you sit with your designer. So, like, someone should have picked up the both of them. No, I cannot wait. I didn't even think about that.

And do you think Kim will walk with Lewis? I actually do. If she walks with... I think it'll be an attempt to get people to care. And you know what? I just might. I just might. I just want to say, because I love.

love like a red carpet moment. They're so iconic. Even the couple doesn't stay together. Like, just, you know, you don't get a lot of couples at the MetGallax. Everyone's there. It's a work thing. Your husband's not always invited. Yeah. So it's just very cool to see couples. And he's very MetGala. I think he's been on the welcoming committee or board. I feel like she won't because she did it with Pete and she shouldn't have. Yeah. Even though they seem to be quite serious. But so were Kim and Pete. They were together for almost a year. Yeah. It's, It just, it didn't seem serious because like he's so, like, random.

It seemed so serious to me at the time because I, yeah, of course. Because she's serious. Yeah, I do think that they might walk together. Okay, I hope so. And Kendall and Jacob? Never. No. Never.

Speaking of Kendall and Jacob, I don't know if you saw, but Olivia Jade is launching a product. I did, but she didn't say. She's not filming. She's not filming. We've been waiting for the Olivia Jade makeup line like serious since 2016. Give a toss. Yeah. Also, speaking of Jacob Allorty, I'm literally watching.

watching Euphoria. In clips on TikTok, me too. In clips on reels. What is that? It seems great. I only know what Sydney Sweeney's parts. I only get Sydney Sweeney clips. Well, I don't know if you saw actually, there was this moment that went viral. I don't know the context, but she's having an argument with someone at her wedding. And the girl's like, we invested our kids child, our kids were to college fund. And Cindy's like, what does that have to do with May? And the girl who's screaming at Sydney Sweeney has Botox and Sydney Sweeney doesn't. So it's like, it's literally two different faces where like they're both screaming at each other. One girl's face is not moving.

And Sydney's feet is like literally crumpled. Crumpled. And it was, people were giving her a lot of credit for not having Botox because it really does make you a better actress. Yeah, but I think the person who is acting as, you know, someone who's invested in my kid's child fund,

like that person has Botox. Yeah, right. Right. You know what I mean? It's realistic. It's realistic to the character whose face probably wouldn't move. That's funny. So I didn't feel like it was a knock.

I've seen a lot of the season three of you, The wedding, so I guess, through the clips. I guess Nate Jacobs is like a Jimmy Cooper. Yes, that's a great comparison. His dad kind of was a Jimmy Cooper too. Oh, okay. Stealing people's money in the community. And then she doesn't want to be poor.

Yeah, but she also wants to have this big wedding to like offset people's suspicions of them. So she's like $50,000 on flowers and she started doing only fans to like make money for the wedding. And the baby thing, which that's bad. It's gross. Yeah, really bad. Yeah. But and the dog thing. Yeah, and he tells her to stop because, like, people in the community will say.

Yeah. And then she's, like, crying all the whole time at her wedding and smiling and dancing. They did a dance. Yeah, she says, very chuggy millennial. I guess the girl Maddie, who used to date, Nate, is Sydney's old best friend. From high school, yeah. Yeah. And, like, yeah.

But they were really sweet best friends. The friendship was very earnest. No. With the cliffs I'm seeing, it seems very earnest. Sidney stole her boyfriend. She did steal her boyfriend, but they were just like popular girls who like... But they were broken up for three weeks and three days. Oh, wow, you've really seen a lot.

I've seen a lot. Love that. And it's only giving me Cassie's storyline. I don't know about Rue. I don't know about Barbie Ferreira. She's out on the show. She left last season. Who's Jules?

Hunter Schaefer. I don't know about Jules. Whose Rue's like on and off love. I only know about Carrie. Cassie Nate and then Maddie by way of Cassie and Nate. Got it. Okay. So I'm enjoying. Why are they showing all this? Like, I don't know, but it is a really effective way. I don't know if you saw, but Issa Ray has just released her first show. It's a vertical series and it's being released in clips. Like, that's how

people consume media weirdly these days. I was just watching a literal movie. I don't know if you guys have ever seen the movie of Sally Field when she marries the Iranian guy. Yes, I watch that movie all the time on Instagram. I watched it on Reels. And I was just what was the movie. Oh, it was Megan Fahey was like playing this like old, like, Megan Fahey and Betty White movie. Does anybody know what movie I'm talking about where like they play younger versions of each other young and old and she like lost her husband in the war? And so Betty White is the old lady so waiting for him to come back.

It sounds amazing. No, it's literally an effective way to get people to see your show that so much show Issa Ray launched a vertical series. Oh my gosh. Yeah, the Sally, it's kind of brilliant. The Sally Field movie is not without my daughter. Yes. Yes.

Her husband tricks her into moving to Iran. No, going to Iran on vacation in the middle of the Islamic Revolution, and she gets stuck there and she can't leave. No, she doesn't get stuck there. She's trapped her. He traps her. She can't leave. And if she wants to leave,

she can't take her daughter with her legally. She literally left on foot with her daughter into Turkey. And this man, like, drove them literally. It's based on a true story. It's based on above. Yeah, Betty Mahmoudi. I literally only know it because of Reels. Me too.

Same with this Megan Fahy Betty White movie. I haven't gotten that one yet. I look forward to watch. it. Yeah. Sometimes I'll be in the middle of doing something. I just check Instagram and all of a sudden I'm watching a movie. You're watching a movie.

And I'm like, yeah. I'm supposed to be making dinner. Why am I watching a movie on my phone? Not without my daughter. Have you seen the one of Angelina Jolie like faking a pregnancy and getting stabbed? No. Getting stabbed in her pregnant belly and then pulling out the scissors and stabbing the man who stabbed her? No.

I saw that one this morning. That looks good. Have you seen the one of Christopher Walkin when he builds like a fort underground? for when the apocalypse comes. No, I haven't. That's a good one. I look forward to seeing it. I've seen a lot of Grace Anatomy.

Oh, young Sheldon. A lot of medical shows, you know. Me too. This mystery. All of these lines across my face. I've seen the musical episode of Grace Anatomy on Reels. Oh, interesting. I haven't caught that one yet.

Oh, it's good. It's kind of like a famous episode within the Grace Anatomy community. Oh, oh, oh. Well, our fifth and final story, if we may, is a little biz news. Spirit Airlines is going out of business after 34 years and is ending operations immediately. Their last flight actually, I think, already happened. Okay.

That was quick, by the way. Like, I do it's always like, oh, in six months. Well, there was a merger proposed. But who would want to be flying a bankrupt airline? Let alone spirit. Like, it's already a bankrupt airline. Well, there was a rumor. and I actually watched Brian Kelly on like

live with Kelly and Marcus something explaining when JetBlue wanted to buy Spirit and how big of a deal that would be because they would have become a major airline like United and Delta are like bigger airlines and there's regional ones that don't have hubs, they don't have enough planes if Spirit and JetBlue were to join forces

they would become like a united I don't know what happened like the merger got denied or they didn't end up doing it or whatever so I guess like Spirit's just over I don't know what videos I'm going to watch anymore because one of my favorite videos to watch is like people on Spirit Airlines cussing each other out. Grawling. Yeah.

I guess I'll have to maybe go back to watching not without my daughter. But it's kind of huge for the viral video community. Yeah, it is. Also, I feel like it's huge for the travel community. Like you really couldn't beat those prices. Yeah, you know, you might not have a seat and you might be sitting on the toilet, but you were going to get where you needed to go. From point A to point B, absolutely.

So I feel like as far as, you know, quick, easy trips, the price is going up. And I also think that culturally spirit airlines symbolized a lot. Like we were always making jokes and texts and memes. Of course, the butt of the joke. Texan memes. So all these airlines better be on notice

because you might become the next spirit if you treat us like spirit. Absolutely. So why don't you step it up? I just feel like this is kind of a big deal. It is a big deal. It is a big deal. Bon voyage spirit.

I need my travel correspondent, Brian Kelly, explain more so what this means. Like, are prices going up? I guess supply and demand. They would. Right. And what happens to an airline, what happens to an airplane when an airline dies?

Will they sell it off? Well, yeah, I had heard for a moment that the government was thinking about buying it and taking the planes for like transit. The military? Yeah. I don't think that went through. But other airlines could buy these planes at a discount. Right.

Right, right. You know, so we'll see. I just feel like this is so crazy. I feel like an airline. I feel like when airlines go out of business. Not since Delta song. I think when airlines go out of business, it's kind of like a moment in history.

Now, not song, because song was a part of Delta, so it never really went out of business. It was just like this, you know, diffusion line that they discontinued, but like Continental. Mm-hmm. Remember that airline? Pan Am. Right.

Like I feel like it marks era. of history. Yeah. The spirit era has ended. It's sad. Now let's move on to the midnight's era. What's the midnight era?

The era's tour. Oh. You think Taylor and Travis could be at the Metcala now? No. Joe Alwyn is at the Carlisle, so I'm sure he'll be there. Yeah, and it's really like Kardashians.

I don't know why someone in an interview should ask her that. She doesn't really do interviews. No, but she just did New York Times songwriter. Like she does interviews. Just ask her. She doesn't do interviews where you have free will. Like you can't ask Taylor Swift whatever she wants.

Just ask her someone. Be brave. Be courageous. What's the drama? Because there's actually a lot of things. Like, of course, it's the Kardashians event. But she's so big now she can go wherever she wants. They both went to the Super Bowl.

But also it historically has sort of been like kind of a big moment for her. Bluchella, the getaway car, Tom Holland. What does it mean? And I don't think she's like running scared from the Kardashians. No. Yeah, what is it? What is it? And she used to be on the chair.

She's, like, friends with Anna. So it's not like she has bad vibes. Like, you know, Demi Lovato, who said she wouldn't go anymore because it's toxic. Right, right. Although I do feel like she's sort of healed from that. Demi? Yeah. I don't know.

I feel like some people, I feel like even Chloe was like, it's not my scene. I don't think it's a particularly fun event. Yeah. And you have to be, like, really in the know. You have to be friends with everyone. And, yeah, I think it's like a work event. I think it's a little nerve-wracking, all the cameras, all the people. And, yeah, it's not for everyone.

And so I understand why Demi Lovato felt that way. Wait, can we do our favorite game where we guess which celebrity talent is going to be picked from the digital world going to the MacGala? Because last year we had said Nara Smith, which I thought was such a good guess of mine and they didn't invite her or she didn't go. I do think she could go this year. Yeah, I do think Alex Earle could go this year. And I don't even think I suggested her last year, but I do think this year she could. Yeah. If she doesn't go, I don't think it's because she couldn't, honestly.

Like she's dating Tom Brady. She is the moment. Yeah. Other influencers. Or like podcasters. Who's like in fashion, you know? You think Jake Shane will go? I hope so.

We do. But I don't think he's in New York. But like he, the way he talks about like his anxiety about all these things. Oh, he would have the worst time. Even though he's friends with everybody. Everybody loves him. He, I don't know if he can handle it. I also think a lot of the.

the digital talent is often connected to the sponsor. Like when YouTube sponsor, I think Amazon. The Bezos. There's a lot of people are like boycotting because the way Bezoses are like backers. I don't give a fuck. Loser sneeze. Yeah, no, just like seriously? Shut up.

Who is like tied with Amazon or like has a show on Amazon, you know? But it wouldn't be like Amazon creators because like who are at the derby, right? No, no. I mean people who aren't connected with the brand in like a larger way. Prime Video. Who has like a reality show on Prime Video, even they don't do a lot of that. No, they don't do a lot of that.

Do you think Brooks Nader's going? Yeah. She's friends with the Bezos's. She went to the Redding. Oh, well, then she better fucking be there. She better fucking me there. And of course, the shit off of the century should be there. Sydney, Sweeney and Scooter Braun,

who met at the wedding. Oh, do they meet at the wedding? Mm-hmm. I don't know if he does like a lot of red carpet. He's more like a businessman. So if he goes, I don't know if they'll walk the carpet. But she'll definitely go. They're so hard launched.

Oh, they're getting married. They're long. Do you think she's going to convert? Like literally they're getting married and having children. I think she's going to convert like dead ass. I ship so hard. I hope they walk the carpet. Like honestly,

I can be keeping an eye out for them like Kylie and Timothy. Yeah. No, I'm definitely on alert for a couple of people, a couple of things. I hope Brooksie goes and maybe Taryn too. And you know what? I don't think,

actually, I just don't think he would be invited, honestly. I feel like he could be. And he spends with Elton John. And I feel like Elton John could get someone in somewhere. But I just want to normalize, like, you walking the red carpet with someone that you, you're not going to marry. That's fine. Like, it's not like your sibling's wedding where like,

you don't want them in the pictures. Like, have an iconic moment with a good looking person. Haley Bieber, Sean Mendez, like the fraudulent relationship of the century. I lived for that. That was a fraudulent relationship. These aren't fraudulent relationships. Like, Taryn and Brooksie, like, I don't think they're going to be together forever. So it's usually you don't walk the couple with the carpet with like someone you've been with for a few months. But like, do it. It's sickening. Agreed. Agreed. And it's honestly a good way to get talked about. And it's a moment in time. Have you ever seen the pictures of Jessica Simpson and John Mayer at the MacGala? Like it's seriously. It's a moment in time. It's a time capsule. Do it. And it's really a way to stand out. Like it's very oversaturated. Everyone's doing their big one. There's a million celebrities. Everybody's dressed in the nine. It's like give us something to ship, you know? I just, I don't know why I'm like I feel like I'm like I feel like we're going to get some of that. Just be casual. It's not a big deal. It's a mecala. I do feel I do feel like the mecala has also be.

become like a lot less of a big deal. I feel like back in the day it was literally impossible to get an invitation, even if you were A-list. Now I just feel like they kind of let anyone in. So yeah, bring your random boyfriend. Yeah. Whatever. Give us a couple picks.

Give us couple goals. I love it. Oh, I guess this is a big deal because it's like the first Met Gala where Anna's not Vogue at her in chief. They're really pushing that girl Chloe on us. I've seen a lot. She's doing like a lot of like street interviews. I've seen a lot.

She's in the street? Well, no, like street style where they're just like in her office. Oh, other people are interviewing her. Yes. She's not a man on the street. I saw such a weird interview because I guess there has been like a lot of pushback that like she wears ugly clothes and it's kind of crazy because she's like the editor of Vogue. So somebody was like asking her about that and she was like, yeah, I mean I do dress different than Anna. And it's like, well, no one cares that you dress different than Anna.

I think people care like you dress ugly. Yeah. And so she's like talking about it. It's really weird. But they are like, I think they're trying to be like digital focus, like 300 years too late with like their young hot editor like doing street style TikToks. But okay. I've missed all of that. No, it's it's it's targeting towards me.

And I'm happy. I'm happy that it doesn't sound like it's for me, you know? I'm happy to have missed it. Don't surface that. You think of Harry and Megan? You think they're there yet? I always think Harry and Megan at this point now. I think it's weird that they haven't gone.

Yeah, and now it's too late. You think? Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay, that will be fun. That will be fun. So tomorrow's the first Tuesday in May, which is just as exciting as the first Monday in May.

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