The Toast - The Flashy Girl From Flushing: Friday, September 8th, 2023

Episode Date: September 8, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast and happy Friday, Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. It is a gorgeous Friday back in studio. Week one of Jackie's return from maternity leave. And I am joined by a gorgeous co-host. He is host of the Good Guys podcast, fellow semi-glutide user, founder of Spritz Society,

apple of my eye, it's Ben Soffer. Hey, Ben Soffer, celeb. How you doing? I'm doing wonderful. Thanks, that's great. How are you? I'm feeling like the Friday itch.

Friday for the weekend. First week, you know, I was unemployed all last month. Let's talk about that. What was it like having me home just kind of like doing nothing? You weren't doing nothing. I know, I low-key was busy. Also, like talk into the microphone like okay like nice and close i

mean i was i was i was close lean back lean back i was comfortable in talking into the microphone i don't understand i'm sorry just like move it closer to you yeah yeah perfect this is too close it's never too close okay um you were busy you were busy like i don't know if like you you talk about this but like you're just, like, hitting the gym every day. I know. Like, you're out there doing these classes, running up hills, running down hills. Are you threatened by my newfound just, like, athleticism?

Are you jealous? No, I'm definitely annoyed by the newfound complaining that comes with your new hobby. In terms of what? I don't feel like I complain about anything. No, it's just, like, constantly sore, constantly tired. But, like, I guess you were sore and tired before anyways. So, like, now it's, like... At least I'm, like I complain about anything. No, it's just like constantly sore, constantly tired. But like I guess you were sore and tired before anyways. So like now it's like. At least I'm like bettering myself.

You're bettering yourself. Yeah. But I'm incredibly proud of you. Thanks. You took the time off and really did something with it. I did. I know. Did something with it.

And yeah. So. You're proud of me. I am proud of you. Well, it's so great to have you back. So much has happened since the last time you've been on The Toast. When was the last time I was on The Toast? I don't know.

I was on your podcast during my maternity leave. So if you guys haven't listened to that, it was actually a fabulous episode. We talked a lot about both of our journeys with Ozempic. Yes, we did. And it was a fabulous episode. So I feel like we actually don't have that much catching up to do. No, we really don't. Listen to The Good Guys, the episode with Claudia.

It really was fantastic. Why don't- Also catch up on the other ones too. Great show, if I might add. I was going to say here, I'm going to give you 100 seconds. Go wild. Promote whatever you want to promote. Three.

Across the board. Across the board. Three, two, one, action. First and foremost, Good Guys, hosted by myself and Josh Peck. If you guys aren't listening, which I'm sure the majority of you aren't, what are you, nuts? It's a fantastic podcast. We have guests like Hilary Duff, Claudia Aschere, John Stamos.

I mean, it's really an unbelievable podcast. They pull A-list talent because Ben's co-host is like an actually famous person, not like fake like us, you know? And then we have solo episodes where me and Josh just have unbelievable banter. You're going to love it. It's fantastic. So go either watch the episodes. All the episodes are live on Josh Peck's YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Next, Spritz Society, you'll notice there's a little box of pink lemonade here, folks. Coming soon by popular demand. Everybody wanted this flavor back it happens to

be my favorite and we are going to be re-releasing it so look out for that next week go to spritz society.com and sign up for the notifications to be notified when pink lemonade drops again gorgeous you killed it yeah that's it i think so um Good guys and spritz. Spritz and good guys. Good guys and spritz. Yes. Wait, I wanted to ask you one more thing before. You're gonna dive into the Fast 5 Stories with me today. Yes we are.

Oh, but Ben and I have gone on a journey. You know, we've been through a few journeys in these last few years. We have we have started and completed Young Sheldon. That was a big era for us. We have, yes. We are currently in our Suits era. We are. We're gonna talk about Suits. But last night we re-entered our The Nanny era. And let me just say, I have no interest in watching Suits anymore. Like I'm obsessed with The Nanny. It's literally, I find

myself cackling. Like it's an actually funny show. What I think is so cool about The Nanny is that I don't think we've ever watched it together in our 11 years of being together. Yeah. Yet we both know every single word to the theme song. Three, two, one. She was working at a bridal shop in Flushing, Queens till her boyfriend kicked her out in one of those crushing scenes.

What was she to do? Where was she to go? She was out on her fanny. So over the bridge from Flushing to the Sheffield store, she was there to sell makeup. But the father saw more. She had style. She had flair. She was there.

That's how she became the nanny. This part's tough for me. Who would have guessed that the girl he described was just exactly what the doctor prescribed? Now the father finds a regala. Watch out, Cece. And the kids are actually smiling. Such wannabes!

She is a lady in red, when everybody else is wearing tan! The flashy girl from Flushing, the nanny named Fran! It's Joie de vivre? Yeah, such joie de vivre! I always thought it was such wannabes. That's the song they wrote about you, not the nanny. Excuse me! So you were saying, you were saying.

I was just saying, like, unbelievable show. The fact that we both just, like, loved it from childhood and it comes back. And it stands the test of time. It does. Like, most shows that you bring back, you're like, I used to like this crap. So true. No offense. Like, that's how I feel about Seinfeld.

Okay. That's, like, the hottest, dumbest take I've ever heard. You also didn't watch Seinfeld as a seven-year-old. No, I just like, I don't think it's funny. Why'd you just like bring in Seinfeld for no reason? Because I think more people should talk about how not funny it is. No, it is. It's just literally not.

It is. That said, Curb is better. Oh, 100%. But they're both like. Is that even a question? Like people are like Curb versus Seinfeld. Like it's not even a question. For people who don't watch Curb.

For sure, for sure. Another thing about The Nanny that I don't think I realized at the time because when I watched it it was always on at Nick at night 11 o'clock I would watch it right before bed. Nick at night. So good. And I when I was watching it I was very much like a Jewish girl living you know in a Jewish world going to Jewish school Jewish camp like things being Jewish were not out of the norm for me but now like I'm an adult and I

live in the real world and the show is so Jewish and it's so like proudly Jewish and it's really an accurate reflection of like Jewish culture, especially like in New York and Queens. And it's such a delight to watch. And an acceptance of said culture by a very waspy non-Jewish family. Yeah. Fran's outfits are amazing.

I feel like Fran's been in the news a lot. I feel like you're always talking about Fran on your podcast because she's the leader of SAG. The SAG union. And obviously you guys are abiding by the SAG. We're actors. You know me. Yeah, right.

Starring in lead roles. I have to respect SAG. Of course. Of course. Of course. So she's been in the news recently. And it's just nice to remind ourselves like where she came from. Yeah.

It's a fabulous show. It's on Max. I can't recommend watching it enough. We're loving it. Absolute legend. And then Suits. We've kind of been in our Suits era. Yeah. Let's talk about that. It's on Max. I can't recommend watching it enough. We're loving it. Absolute legend. And then Suits, we've kind of been in our Suits era. Let's talk about that.

Suits is great. Literally could not hold a candle to the nanny. I agree. That's just the truth. They're different shows. It's apples and oranges. They're totally different shows. But like one is so iconic and Suits is great.

But yeah. It's no nanny. It's no nanny. And we're also in like this part of Suits in season seven where things are just a little bit crazy like donna like spoiler alert even though the show came out 10 years ago donna wanted to be like a partner at the firm and it's like i respect women in business but like you're not a lawyer uh everything's just kind of being like turned upside down and making no goddamn sense and everyone is honestly being dumb whatever writer wrote in that donna becomes coo and stopped being harvey's secretary when the only reason one one of

the only reasons people like the show is that dynamic between harvey and donna this whole secretary lawyer like there's like all this like sexual innuendo this passion this fire they know each other best and all of a sudden they're like on the equal playing field and there's no longer this lust and it's like it's just such like a but here's what I think and this is what I was explaining to you it kind of made no sense like her coming out of left field not wanting to be a legal secretary anymore and like wanting to be a partner um and so I felt like and I don't know yet because I don't know how the show ends but I don't know if Donna and Harvey like end up together. But if they do, it feels like they needed the two characters to be on equal levels, like not have this like power dynamic and power imbalance. They needed them to be equals if they really were going to be a successful couple in the long run.

That's what I think the reasoning is because it makes no sense. Yeah, we also forgot to talk about what started donna's downfall which was the donna the project made by benjamin for my spoiler alert by the way i heard you guys talking about this yeah fibula fibula fibula i loved having fibula on the toes oh also you have some competition because like we don't have a lot of like straight men on the toast so when we do like the girlies you know they cream their pants and of course when you come on everybody's like oh I love that Ben what a great husband you know you get like kind of cool but Fibula came on he's like younger than you and he's single and like everyone was like sliding into his dms being like oh my god the fibs so I don't know I'm just letting you know like you kind of you got to bring your a-game today all

I know is I'm not here for you trying to pit me against fibula you're trying to create drama that doesn't exist i am and that said i don't have to come on anymore oh okay no problem where are you going to promote some good guys on good guys yeah good guys is growing okay bye charting bye no i need this but i'm just letting you know i'm happy that the toasters love fibula they really did I was surprised I wasn't sure you know he was not our typical demo our typical co-host

oh did they love him yeah I mean he's he's great I just want to say it was so funny the bar for co-hosts is so interesting because like when a girl

comes on and like if you know sometimes you just don't vibe with a co-host the comments are like like love you Claude but like she was annoying and like with Fibs

they were like obsessed like the bar is so much lower for the guys they're like wait I need to marry Fibula and like with you Claude but like she was annoying and like with Fibs they were like obsessed like the bar is so much lower for the guys they're like wait I need to marry Fibula and like with you they're like I'm obsessed with that

and like you didn't even do anything that special yeah I'm just saying like me and Fibula are starting a hate group against the toast because the way that

you just said that the bar is low for the two of us I'm not saying no the bar is really fucking high and you get really high male guests

maybe you should get less shitty female that wasn't a reflection of your performance or fibula's you both were excellent fibula really knocked it out of the park but i just thought the reception from our mostly female audience was funny yeah it is funny yeah it is funny they're funny they're funny moving back to the reason i brought the donna connor wood into the equation was you guys spoke about, what the fuck did you guys speak about? I lost my train of thought.

Statue of Limitations on spoiling a show from 10 years ago. Watch it or don't. Yeah. Or live with the consequences. People need to be able to talk about it. Watch it or live with the consequences. Also, I highly recommend watching Suits through season five and then throwing your TV off of your balcony. What you had been saying, which I want you to finish your thought, is the Donna.

The Donna. There was this storyline in Suits that was so unbelievably stupid. Came out of left field, too. Honestly, I have to imagine that maybe at that time there was a writer's strike. Must have been. And they got some low-budget, non-union writers to write this moronic storyline that wasn't a writer couldn't be it was a robot no no writer could have written that storyline it was human like i felt dumb watching the show this it guy goes to donna and admits to

her that he's been tracking her and her every move the entire time she's been at the law firm logging every one of her decisions to create like a robot basically like an alexa called the donna so dumb like a personal assistant tool that actually does nothing that just has donna's voice and then all of a sudden you see her pitching it to vcs she's the secretary pitching this product that wasn't even hers and then all of a sudden the product gets killed and she's so upset that this was her life's passion but she didn't even make it and then she becomes coo and suits is just terrible totally now that we've watched our eyes have been open to like actually good television that said lewis lit honestly i should have ended up with fran treasure obsessed obsessed the nanny and the lawyer i know so it's just like what we've been up

to oh you better stop one singular cough you better stop we've been up to. Oh, you better stop. One singular cough. You better stop. We've only been going for 12 minutes. One cough per 12 minutes? It's pretty good. Do you need a water or something? No, I'm okay. You sure?

Yeah, my throat is dry, but I'm fine. So you feel like equipped to begin. I do. To dive in. I do. To the Fast Five. I do. Stories.

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his behavior on set, the toxic workplace. You know, it was kind of very standard. I feel like the last one, Rolling Stone just did one on James Corden. It was like the Ellen DeGeneres treatment. And I feel like nobody cares. That's just like what I'm seeing and what I'm feeling. And I feel like this was also a very known thing. I feel like eight years ago, somebody told me like Jimmy Fallon is always drunk. And every time I see him do something, whether he's on a podcast or on his actual show doing his monologue and appearance, I'm like yeah that's a drunk person i feel like that's just been like a a common secret that everybody knew and no one

was going to do anything about but rolling stone took matters into their own hand they launched a full-fledged investigation um and jimmy fallon actually responded almost immediately and apologized to the tonight show staff after the report there was like a bunch of stories that came in about him embarrassing staffers, making them cry. Apparently like those celebrity green rooms where celebrities are held during the regular working hours, they were called like the crying room. Like the staffers would go in there and cry once they were yelled at. Jimmy Fallon just immediately apologized.

He did it on an all-hands Zoom they had. He said, sorry if I embarrassed you, your family, your friends. I feel so bad I can't even tell you. There was a lot of like actual instances that Rolling Stone cited specifically. And I think he was responding directly to them. This is kind of like an amazing way of handling it. I just I don't know. I feel like he's not going to get the Ellen James Corden. People hated Ellen.

They were looking for a reason to cancel her job. People hated James Corden for whatever reason. It was like the internet hate train. People don't hate Jimmy Fallon. Would you like to speak? Oh my God. Agreed. People don't hate Jimmy Fallon.

If you're apologizing immediately, you're wrong for that. You're obviously, you have something to hide. You're in the wrong. I think, yes, it's non-traditional. This isn't like an accounting firm. It's Hollywood. So there's always going to be like

a level of crazy. But there's really no excuse for Jimmy himself to be like a demon. You know, like maybe your showrunner is an asshole. Do we have an example?

Do we have a singular example? Yes, there was many examples. I just want one. Do you have one? It was in the Rolling Stone article about how during a taping

with Jerry Seinfeld, he like called out one of the staffers and like it was like really bad. And actually, what's his name? Jerry. Jerry Seinfeld actually released a statement before this Jimmy Fallon apology and said, I was there. It didn't really go down like that. Like, I know what you're talking about and you're kind of misconstruing like the situation. But the situation actually did happen. Jerry Seinfeld knew rolling stone was talking about okay but wait here's what jimmy fallon said it's embarrassing and i feel so bad sorry if i embarrassed you and your family and your friends i feel so bad i can't even tell you he added that he did not intend to quote create that type of

atmosphere for the show i want the show to be fun it should be inclusive to everybody it should be the best show the apology comes after two current and 14 former employees claimed that the tonight show has been a toxic workplace for years this is what they said in the article nobody told jimmy no everybody walked on eggshells especially the showrunners you never knew which jimmy we were going to get and when he was going to throw a hissy fit look how many showrunners went so quickly we know they didn't last long apparently his show has had a new showrunner every single year for every single season, which is like extremely uncommon. Sources claimed that Fallon's erratic behavior led to staff, especially showrunners, quitting the company.

It was like if Jimmy's in a bad mood, everyone's day is fucked. It was very much like focus on whatever it is that you have to do because Jimmy's in a bad mood. And if he sees that, he might fly off the handle. Seven staffers alleged to Rolling Stone that their mental health was affected by the negative atmosphere behind the scenes and that joking about wanting to kill themselves was common workplace there. There were also allegations that guest dressing rooms were known as the crying rooms for staff. This is what a former employee said. Mentally, I was in the lowest place of my life. I didn't want to live anymore. I thought about taking my own life all the time. I knew

deep down I would never actually do it, but in my head, I'm like, why do I think about this all the time? Back in 2016, Page Six actually exclusively reported that NBC was concerned with Jimmy Fallon's drinking and that it would lead to problems on the show, although the network denied it at the time. Following the publication of that report, several staffers came to his defense. He makes a point of commending you when you do a great job, when he's happy, a current employee who preferred to remain anonymous told People Magazine. And any feedback I've received is always like, hey, we don't need to do that again. It's been very constructive and helpful for me in continuing to put together a show that

he's happy with. I've never been belittled, yelled at, nothing like that. It's all exactly how a boss should give feedback to an employee. So that was 2016. And it seems like since then, everything has gone completely downhill because so many people came to his defense when there were rumors about his drinking in 2016. But now in 2023, not one person chose to go on the record with their name with Rolling Stone. Former and current employers, everyone's been anonymous.

Oh, is this the time where you want me to chime in? Yes. This is a very difficult situation. Yeah. I feel like he... Now with more information, it seems like this is a bad place to work. I would like to go on the record saying that you can quit.

Right? I mean, it's really... That's like an amazing job. I get it. If you're like a writer, a comedian, and you want to work in this industry, getting a job there, that's like the best job you can get totally and those people go on to like write for SNL like

it's really like a launching point I know I just whatever whatever I'm whatever I'm gonna say is not gonna sound good okay so like if you want to cut it you can cut it okay I'm just saying like people choose to work where they choose to work. They choose to work for either employees that maybe, I mean, for employers that they believe in, or they choose not to work for employers that they think are bad people. Sometimes it's about like an overall message of a company or for this, it's clearly trying to pave the way for a very promising career. But choose if you are feeling something like suicidal, that's horrendous.

That's horrendous. Quit. Yeah, I think... You're choosing to work there. But I think he was saying like... I think he was saying... Like he knew his feelings were an exaggeration. Like I don't think he was really feeling suicidal.

But like to be... For your job to make you so dark. But like I also really don't feel like you should have your job to like make you so dark but like I also really don't feel like you should have to give up something you worked hard for because somebody has a drinking problem and is an asshole like it's still it's NBC you're working at like a company that has HR but it's like all these um but then why can't you ask to work for a different show at NBC because why should you have to do that like you worked hard to get to this the Tonight Show Jay Leno Johnny Carson it is a legendary show it is a

show that every comedy writer or tv writer would want to work on and you got there why the fuck should you have to give that up because jimmy fallon's a dick and can't control his liquor okay you know that's fine you were yeah of course nobody has to be anywhere but if the problem is severe enough you can also quit of course of course nobody'm saying. Of course. Nobody has to be anywhere. But I also just don't subscribe to the notion that you should have to give up things you've worked for because Hollywood isn't fair. Life should be fair. I hate that thing.

Life should be fair. It should. It's not, though. It's not. It's not. It's not. Jimmy, we wish you best. Well, he definitely has.

And if people have been talking about it since 2016, that's seven years. Yeah, he clearly has a drinking problem, which is very sad. And I think there's been a few moments where people were close to uncovering it. Remember when he was on the show for a few months with his arm in a crazy sling and he was like, I fell or whatever.

I think there's been a lot of red flags, but it's just kind of been this open secret that nobody has addressed. But I think maybe now might be even though this isn't even like it's a big story but like it's not gonna affect his ratings i don't think it's really gonna affect how people perceive him like he's just kind of this like affable guy yeah because fever pitch was great right snl like he's really like america's sweetheart it's really fever pitch for sure for sure but he comes from like this like history of

like american like people love him yeah like I don't think this will affect him people weren't reason for looking for a reason to hate him like they were with Ellen and James Corden but it's so interesting like I I'm surprised that James Corden was handled the way that he was like I wouldn't have expected James Corden to be canceled really I feel like people just hated him for no reason. And then the article came out and we were like, oh, we get it now. Like people, they were looking for a reason and they got one. People did not like James Corden because he was like always showing up with celebrities out of nowhere.

He was in like everything. It was like he was literally in the Friends reunion. Like what is James Corden doing here? Like he became, it's that whole thing. Like I always quote this, but it's true. Like likability is a prison. Like you become so, James Corden overnight, carpool karaoke. He was like this British guy nobody knew about. He got this random show. He like likability is a prison. Like you become so James Corden overnight carpool karaoke he was like this British guy nobody knew about he got this random show he wasn't even in a good time slot

he was like the late late show it wasn't supposed to be this big thing and then everybody loved him and of course what comes next hate. And everybody hated him hate hate hate and he was annoying and it was James Corden and then the article came out is like oh now we have an actual reason to dislike him the same thing with his Balthazar scandal where they said he was rude to the waiter. Like nobody really was able to fact-check that, but they ran with it because they were looking for a reason to dislike James Gordon. No one was looking for a reason for Jimmy Fallon, and I actually

don't think this will affect him honestly. Yeah. I don't think his show will be canceled. I don't think he'll go off the air. He's in the most prestigious time slot in late night on NBC in Johnny Carson's time. Like, nobody cares. I have one random thought. Why, if you take Ellen, if you take James, if you take Jimmy, if you take any of these late night folks, If you take Ellen, if you take James, if you take Jimmy, if you take any of these late night folks, why are they the ones who are responsible for working so closely with everybody at the company when technically they're talent? Like, why isn't there like a CEO of the Tonight Show?

It's called the showrunner. Oh, that's that person. Yeah. But like why? There seems to be too much interfacing. But like why there seems to be too much interfacing. Like if you think about any other like talent led project, the talent does not talk to the employees that are working on the project. Right. But then but by the way, then there will be another article.

He thinks he's too good to talk to producer. Totally. I'm just saying if you actually want to solve the problem. Yeah. You'd think that separating church and state a bit might help. For sure. But I think like the best possible show comes from like Jimmy being with the writers

and them writing shit together. Like in an ideal scenario, it's like a family. I get it. But I think a lot of the toxicity, and this happened with Ellen, was like a big part of her, you know, the expose that came out about her was about her showrunner, Annie Lassner.

And him and Ellen were so close, like friends, family vibes. So it really starts at the top. And who's at the top? Ellen, then Andy, then the producers.

Like, it's like a tree. So I hear what you're saying. I actually agree. But I think, you know, if Jimmy Fallon never spoke to his writers, it's like,

well, that's fucking rude. They write you jokes. And now everyone thinks you're funny. And we know you're not. Your writers wrote it. See, it's a double edged sword. Yes. How can like, well, that's fucking rude. They write you jokes and now everyone thinks you're funny and we know you're not. Your writers wrote it. Yeah, but see, it's a double-edged sword. Yes.

How can you win? Likeability is a prison. And be a human being. Like, human beings have problems. Human beings are assholes. Human beings are sweet. Complex. Like, for whatever reason,

we choose to, like, put celebrities on these pedestals as if they're not just regular humans with, like, cool jobs. Or cool jobs. Prisons. Right. Prisons.

Right. But everybody fucks up and everybody has these problems. But I think these articles come out, like, when it's, like, prisons. Right. Prisons. Right. But everybody fucks up. And everybody has these problems. But I think these articles come out like when it's like a true pattern. It's not like Jimmy had a bad day. Like, of course, everybody has a bad day at work. No, but Jimmy, and again, we don't know Jimmy. We're just speculating.

But it seems like he has a drinking problem. That stinks. That's a personal problem. Like he should adjust his drinking. Yeah. But that's a personal problem. I guess if it affects the workplace, it becomes a work problem. Damn. But that's a personal problem. I guess if it affects the workplace, it becomes a work problem.

Damn. All right, wishing him well. Wishing everyone well. All right, are you ready for our next story? I am. Rihanna and A$AP Rocky have revealed their unique name for their second baby. So their child's unusual name

has been revealed a month after she gave birth. Her and the rapper have named their son Riot Rose Mayers, according to his birth certificate, which was obtained by The Blast on Thursday. The name could be a subtle nod to A$AP's track Riot, which was released in July and features Pharrell. It follows their naming tradition favoring the letter R. Their first son's name is RZA, R-Z-A. And now their second son's name is Riot.

That's tough. It's not a great name. If anyone can make it cool, it's A$AP Rocky and Rihanna's son. Yeah, but you just never know. It's kind of like getting that tattoo when you're 14, not knowing what it's like getting that tattoo when you're 14, not knowing what it's going to look like when you're 90.

Like if you get a huge lion on your back, sure, it's cool at, I said 14, sure, it's cool at 22. Right. It won't be cool at 90. Now, I did really choose this story. Obviously, I care. You know, Rihanna's like a trendsetter.

I'm sure everybody's going to be naming their kids Riot. But it made me think, you know, because you're a celebrity. I am. And we, you know, God willing, knock on wood, Brooke, Hashem, Leigh-Anne, Hara, one day will have children. And are we gonna go, because you're a celebrity, like if you are a celebrity with a child, like you have to name them something crazy. God forbid you name them Rachel, you have to name them Apple. Yeah.

What route are we gonna take? Are we gonna go like jeans? You know, I think we should name our kid like denim. Yeah. Normal names. I feel like you're wanting to go like really Jewish. Like you want your kid's name to be like Mordechai. No, I just want, I just want good, normal names. There's a reason that there are certain names that have like stood the test of time. It's because they don't mean anything else.

Ben doesn't mean anything. Sure, in Hebrew't mean anything else. Ben doesn't mean anything. Sure, in Hebrew it means son, but it doesn't mean anything. It's a name. It's a name. It's a name. Like if you want to read into it, you can. Riot means causing a fussle,

like causing like a problem. It's kind of negative. It's negative. Right. It's negative. Actually, it could be. It depends what kind of riot we're talking about. You know, riots cause change.

Maybe she wants her son to be a change maker. I understand. But it also could be negative, like riots, you know? It's just weird. I just don't think that these kids will end up going by, like... Maybe they'll call him Rye. Does Blue Ivy go by Blue? Yes.

People call her Blue. Yeah. What's up, Blue? Yeah. But see, now, in hindsight, when Beyonce said Blue, we were like, that's crazy. Now. It's still crazy. No, it's like her name is Blue, you know?

Same with North. When Kim said her baby was named North, I was like, honestly, are you for real, Kim? Like, this is insane. But North is her name. They call her Nori, North. But see, that's different. I don't think people. But they call.

No, they actually. Sorry. They call her North. North. A see that's different i don't think people but they call no they actually sorry they call her north north a hundred percent i just can't get behind this but like now with time like it's a name it's crazy how it it's even like i just don't think it's a name even apple these are not names when is paltrow's daughter like it's a name like it's crazy how a word maybe that's what shakespeare was saying like Like, what's in a name? These are not names. But like, they are now. No. Honestly, the fact that you brought up Blue Ivy, like, I don't even think of that as a crazy name anymore. Okay.

But when it happened, I was like, blue? Question mark? No, I just. You don't agree? I inherently disagree. I will say. These are not names. Rizah?

Names should be for people and things. Like, in Judaism, we name after very very important people that have passed right like to honor them with a name like do people not honor with names in some regard like i did think that in christianity you name after living grandparents like there's there's honor to a name like what honor is is blue? What honor is apple? Maybe we just don't know it but there is. Okay so maybe there's meaning. Yeah. Understood. Yeah. Understood. I don't think that there's like I guess there's meaning to riot. No you're right. Maybe there's meaning to riot. Right. We just don't know it because we're not Rihanna's family. God. I think we should name our child

Leaf. I think we should name our child Theoif. I think we should name our child Theo. I agree. We should have brought Theo today. Question. This is more for if a rabbi or a Rebbetzin, the wife of a rabbi, happens to be listening to today's episode of The Toast. Can you name after a living pet? I know you can't name after a living human. In Judaism.

Can you name after a living pet? Why? Theo. You actually want to name our child Theo? Theo is an unbelievable name. I agree, but like it's taken. No, it would honor him. It would honor our true first son.

While he's living. He's so cute. He's an angel. I miss him. I know, we should have brought him today. When was the last time you brought him? Not for a while. His schedule and mine like actually conflict.

They do lightly conflict. In the mornings. We both have really busy mornings. They do. Yeah, it's true. We both have really busy mornings. They do. Yeah, it's true. It's true. He's at the UN. Okay.

Are you ready for our next story? I am. It is another update in the Joe Jonas, Sophie Turner. And honestly, I wouldn't have chosen it, but this one is interesting. And as you pointed out this morning when you read this article,

it's quite contradictory. So Joe Jonas has allegedly complained that Sophie Turner was, quote, less than supportive after she gave birth. So this is the kind of first, supportive after she gave birth so this is the kind of first the reason I chose it this is the first thing that's come out in this very messy divorce saga that appears to be in defense of Sophie so far everything has been uh Joe's with the kids and she's an absentee parent and she likes to party and he likes to be home well now

Joe Jonas was apparently less than supportive of his now-astrained wife, Sophie Turner, when she was struggling after giving birth to their second child last year, according to a new report. Sources told TMZ Thursday that the Jonas Brothers member allegedly pressured Sophie to attend industry events, get out of the house more, despite her not wanting to be photographed. Although she preferred to stay home with their two daughters, Sophie put on a brave face, went to numerous events with her husband. However, sources told TMZ that Turner has made it clear that she was uncomfortable and did not want to be there. At a separate event that Turner did not attend, Joe allegedly complained that his wife needed to get out more, prompting those around him to suspect that their marriage had hit a rough patch.

Jonas's rep declined to comment on that report. Reps for the estranged couple didn't immediately return page six requests for comment. Joe filed for divorce on Tuesday after four years of marriage, stating in court documents that their union was irretrievably broken. In a joint statement, they called it a united decision. So up until this point, everything we've been hearing is that Sophie likes to party. He wants to be home with the kids. He's the real parent in the relationship and she's an alcoholic. And now it's like, actually, she was really struggling postpartum and didn't want to

leave the house. And he kind of forced her to do that. So how can both of these be true? Which one is it? Right. They're actually extremely contradictory. Extremely contradictory. And, you know, we always like to say at the toast, two things can be true at the same time. These actually cannot be. They could be true at different portions of time. Perhaps.

But when they met, Sophie's 27? Yeah. Yeah. He's 34. Like. She's younger. If she did want to party, that's fine. Yeah.

She's in her party era. Right. Right? Like 27. I get that she chose to have kids, but still. Good for her. It does now seem, though, like she did not want to party. Right.

And this article is quite negative towards Joe, and I certainly hope it's not true, pressuring your wife. Postpartum wife. To leave the house postpartum. Everybody knows that a postpartum woman, nobody knows what a postpartum woman is dealing with. No, but then also on the, taking it to another level, being famous. Like when you go to it's not like I'm going to my husband's holiday work party. Like you're going to an event where pictures of you are going to be blasted all over the

world before you wake up the next morning. And that element of being postpartum is even more harrowing. Like your physical appearance. You're feeling so emotional, so hormonal. Your body's changed. Like no wonder she doesn't want to leave the house. Yeah. And it also, I don't know, there was a period of time over the last year where i could not check tiktok and not

see the jonas brothers yeah on somebody's something like they have been like again over time again just like right when sophie's have like giving birth having kids how old is their child uh she gave birth like to her last kid like six months ago. Okay, so it's fairly new. So from the entire time that she was pregnant and up until like very recently,

they have been everywhere. Everywhere. Over time promoting. Doing the most. Being as front, like facing the camera as humanly possible, trying to make sure

that their album or their tour or whatever the hell is going on is front and center and I'm sure some publicist is like we need you

and Sophie to be more present because so much a part of their brand is like the Jonas Brothers and then the Jonas Sisters Priyanka Chopra

Danielle Jonas Sophie Turner it's like this click that's actually been really good for their brand everybody like is obsessed with the wives so Sophie wanting

to take time for herself, I guess if you're like a narcissist, you could see that as like attack on the Jonas Brothers, but like everybody needs to calm down. Totally. And. Like seriously, leave her alone.

But this is, the reason I chose this story is because it shows like a sign of life from Sophie. It seems like the last week has been just like blow after blow to Sophie and she hasn't defended herself. Her publicist has not, her team, her camp has not put anything out about her as a mother. this is like the first time it's like thank you thank you

yeah and being six months postpartum with a six month old infant like this is literally another child this is the last fucking thing they need or she needs like especially if her husband's on tour oh right like she like I don't understand the narrative. How is it possible that he is the parent in the relationship when he is on tour? On a world tour, right. Is that six-month-old baby on tour? That's what they're making it seem like. Oh, that that baby is on the bus. Well, not the bus, but...

No, but how else? That he's on tour and the kids are with him. Got it. And where is she? That's what they're alleging. Like, that's what's been said. Got it. It's like, where we're so I'm like

digging deep in the weeds but like is she breastfeeding I don't know I'm just saying how could you be without but and by the way maybe she's not the last show in Boston I think it was she was there with the kids so it's all this is like so crazy messy and I don't know if we'll really ever find out like what the truth is but I think the truth is that it's none of our business just couldn't agree more yeah like this is a family yeah leave them alone okay but like we just like made it our business because we spoke about it I know which one is our business or not we have a choice okay yeah none of our business wishing them well um our next story is brought to you by game time which is very appropriately because we're going to be talking about the u.s

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uh, number four is about the climate protester who glued his feet to the floor at the U.S. Open, interrupting Coco Gauff's semifinal win over Mutova. So I was watching this last night. I don't need to read the article. I lived it. There was like a pause in the game. And it was like there was a disruptance in the 200 level.

And then like it literally kept going on. They were off the court for 30 minutes, excuse me. And a lot of people, everybody started chanting, get him out, get him out. And the people on TV didn't know what was going on because it was all the way up. They couldn't see. And then things started coming out on social media.

People were videoing. Like three people had stood up and started chanting something about fossil fuels. And NYPD and Arthur Ashe Security came and removed them. So why did it take 30 minutes? Because the third guy wouldn't leave. He glued his bare feet to the cement floor of Arthur Ashe Stadium, and it took 30 minutes to get him unglued and escorted out.

Like, the players actually didn't even sit on the court. They went back inside and, like, you know, were in the gym, like, staying hot or whatever. I know that you said that you're not reading the article do you want me to no just the part about coco goff saying yes you're actually right like just read that part so during uh the press conference after the match which she did end up winning um machova the girl who lost said i thought it was like fans screaming and cheering but but it was a group called extension, extension, extinction rebellion that was responsible for the protest. But Coco Goff actually, uh, spoke kind of in defense of them. Wait, let me find exactly what she said.

Throughout history, moments like this are definitely defining moments. I believe, you know, in climate change, I don't really know exactly what they were protesting. I know it, not the delivery. So then maybe it was Machova who said that. Like somebody in that article said that they were down for what happened. This is what Kukukov said. We didn't know how long it was going to take we were talking to the supervisor in security and you know they said it would be as quick as five minutes or as long as an hour it was tough trying to figure out if we should stay warm or conserve energy Machova said I just wanted to get off the court and then keep myself a little warmed up and not just stand there

that's all really yeah I thought I read something else. And Machova said, we see it here and there on some occasions, not just with tennis. It is what it is. What can we do about it? They both were like

very passe about it. They didn't want to, you know. I don't know what article I read. Okay. They didn't want to come out and be like, you know, Coco Gauff doesn't stand for environmentalism.

Of course. But also, it's fucking annoying. Disrupting like a public event, an outing, is never going to be a good way to get your message across. Because honestly, everyone who was there and everyone who was watching was annoyed at the delay. And honestly, now I think environmentalists are fucking annoying. So maybe it had an adverse effect.

Unfortunately, though. But I guess like we're talking about it. We're talking about it. We're talking about it. So it had the effect that they wanted. Really? By the way, but did it? Because nobody, not even Coco, nobody knew what they were actually protesting like what about

there's a lot of things going on in the environment and i just want to say that whole thing like now we're talking about it environmental issues don't have a pr problem i feel like we're always talking about the environment yeah it's true like okay now we're talking about it again now what now what we're always talking about it right leonardo dicaprio all the celebs love to talk about it and they get on their private planes and like destroy the environment it is a now what right no it's not it's not a uh there's there isn't an awareness problem right it's not a humanitarian issue that has an awareness problem yeah 100 we are aware now what it's like probably the biggest we're always talking about it we're aware now what right now what i want about it. We're aware now what? Right. Now what?

I want to see the bottom of that guy's feet. I know. Like glued himself to... What did he use to glue himself? I want to talk about... What kind of glue? Was it super glue? What else could it be?

It couldn't have been a hot glue? It couldn't have been Elmer's because Elmer's would not have stuck into the ground. No, we all used to put Elmer's on our hands in middle school. And it peels off. A glue gun? Too hot. Also, where do you plug it in? No electricity. You can't. So that peels off. A glue gun? Too hot. Also, where do you plug it in? No electricity.

You can't. So that leaves super glue. Gorilla glue. And that would leave his feet in a credibly compromised position. Really bad. Also, he's really fucking lucky. This moron, and I'm calling him a moron because he glued his feet to the ground. Of course.

You don't need to explain. He's really lucky that the police didn't just pick him up and rip his feet from the ground that they believed him by the way maybe it's all a farce maybe he claimed that they were glued very true right so they wouldn't do that nypd could have just like grabbed him and pulled and yanked this is this is a nice story for the nypd they were very nice to this protester no who's being like loosely removingace. Loosely removing his feet from, lightly removing his feet from the ground. Do you remember that woman

who accidentally used Gorilla Glue to set her hair? No. Oh, yes, I do. And she had to undergo like crazy surgery. There was like not many doctors who wanted to do it.

Honestly, Gorilla Glue should be outlawed. No, it's honestly. Or you should need like a driver's license or something to purchase it. The fact that you can walk into like a CVS.

It's true, actually. And buy fucking Gorilla Glue. you can walk into like a CVS It's true actually. and buy fucking Gorilla Glue but when I go into a CVS or a Duane Reade I need to behind lock and key is my deodorant because people I can't get a deodorant

without a key but I can buy Gorilla Glue and seal my eyelids shut. And then all of a sudden like one of my cousins can pick it up and put it under their armpit and rip off all their armpit hair

but I need to go behind lock and key for deodorant. Did your cousin do that? No, I'm just saying. It's an amazing point. Right? It's dangerous. Like how hard is it

to pick up anything? No, it's true. Like in New York City, everything over $5 is behind Lock and Key. Like my razors for my leg, behind Lock and Key. Deodorant,

that's not like the shittiest brand behind Lock and Key. Everything is, Zyrtec, Advil, if you want the liquid gels, behind lock and key. If you want the shit Walgreens ibuprofen brand, oh, you can get that, no problem. Yeah, I admitted this on Good Guys yesterday.

What? I will go into Duane Reade, and instead of calling for somebody to come with the lock and key, I will literally break my hand, reaching it behind the plastic, and pull out whatever I can get. Yeah.

Because I'm not waiting for somebody to come and unlock my deodorant. It's also so personal. When I go to a pharmacy, like maybe I'm buying tampons. Maybe I'm buying condoms. Maybe people are buying pregnancy tests. Condoms. You know what I mean? It's personal.

So to have to call someone over like, hi, can I get these jumbo magnum Trojans? Like it's true. It's embarrassing. It's true. But regardless, nothing should be behind lock and key. Agreed. jumbo magnum trojans like it's true it's embarrassing it's true but regardless nothing should be behind lock and key agreed have better security in the store or shut down the store entirely if you can't handle people walking into your store and not stealing a bottle of gillette crime is such a problem like these pharmacies they're not doing this by choice it hinders

their sales because i walk in i'm like you know what you say that and we're talking about it as if it was crime but then all of a sudden we're talking about it as if it was crime. But then all of a sudden, we're talking about the fact that their generic brand is not behind Lock and Key. So is it for crime? Or is it so that it's more difficult to buy Advil? So you're just going to buy the ibuprofen brand where they make a significantly higher margin on?

Are they pretending that it's crime when in reality, it's the crime of the store? It's the crime of the store it's the crime of the store I agree but contrary to what I just said they don't have a Walgreens brand

deodorant that I can just pick up and they don't have a Walgreens brand super glue which is what you were initially talking about

yeah Gorilla Glue terrible you're right it's kind of like a crazy product that's like weirdly accessible insane product

you don't have to be like 18 to buy it no and it's it's terrible but like not terrible it's terrible. Not terrible. It's a good product. But when you need it, like for household things,

like you broke a vase or something, it really works. For sure. It works. It's actually an amazing product. It's just dangerous. Agreed. Are you ready for the final story? That's kind of a convergence of your world and mine.

Sure. Kim Kardashian is slammed for a tone-deaf tribute to Steve Harwell in a gold bikini. So Kim Kardashian appeared to pay tribute to the late Smash Mouth singer Steve Harwell with a signature snap of herself in a bikini, but not everyone was feeling the love. She posted a mirror selfie to Instagram Wednesday where she was wearing a metallic two-piece, and her caption was, All that glitters is gold.

That's what she captioned in reference to the band's hit song, All Star. Now, people were quick to comment, low-key tone deaf, but go off. Kim, there's literally people that are dying, literally. Someone dies and you use their lyrics to post a thirst trap eye roll emoji. Others pondered whether Kardashian was even aware

that the rocker had passed away on Monday. Now, I think it's worth mentioning that, you know, Steve Harwell, a great lyricist, he did not invent all that glitters is gold. He used that very common phrase in a lyric. That's a phrase outside of the song. Are you okay? No, like this is so fucking dumb.

Yeah, okay. Like Kim Kardashian was paying tribute, it sounds like. She wasn't. No, I tribute it sounds like she wasn't no i don't agree okay no i don't agree that it was a complete coincidence she was wearing a gold bikini and so when you wear gold and you take a picture and you post it on instagram you always want to have like a funny quirky caption so she was like okay gold all that glitters is gold okay so you can play that angle i in reality am going to play the angle that she was signaling some kind of a loose tribute. And I want to say that the tribute was incredibly nice. Thoughtful.

There is no reason why any kind, like she's not using, like again, and I'm a big smash mouth. Like this, I love this. You're really feeling the loss of Steve Harwell. You're a big smash mouth guy. No. So I was, I was going to say he really wasn't like, he wasn't that famous. Right. He was famous.

But like the idea that Kim is. His one or two of his songs are like deeply embedded in pop culture. But he himself as a celebrity. Is not. Is not. Is not. And so the idea that Kim Kardashian is somehow using it to prop herself up. Is absurd.

Is brain dead. It's absurd. Like it doesn't make any sense. If anything, she is actually bringing more light to his very sad and tragic death by posting this. It's an amazing take. It's terrible. I just want to say, you've kind of been like this episode, like really giving fire takes.

Yeah. Well, it's because I read the stories. So yeah, you never do. I was able to prepare. You usually just like throw them in front of me and I'm like, what happened here?

No, I actually read them and yeah, Smash Mouth, Steve Harwell. It's very sad. It is. I don't think we know more details

than what I read earlier, but such a terrible drinking problem. Alcoholism, yeah. Died of just a liver problem from the Jimmy Fallon stuff to this. Just like, if you have a problem with drinking, like fix it. Died of just a liver problem from the Jimmy Fallon stuff to this. Just like,

if you have a problem with drinking, like fix it. If someone in your life, or no, it's not that easy. No, no, go to find help. That's what I mean.

But if someone in your life, I think a better kind of PSA for this episode, if someone in your life is struggling, you know, be there for them because it really, it has such terrible consequences.

Yes, yes. Alcoholism stinks. It's a deadly disease. And you know what? A lot of times it's a deadly disease and you know what a lot of times it's hereditary it can run in your family so like you're literally left with no choice it's terrible it's horrible it's terrible um and on the steve harwell stuff if anybody somehow has not seen the movie rat race you gotta see is he in it Smash... I mean, he's in it. Smash Mouth performs at the end. Like, there's this big concert.

What song do they sing? They sing All Star. Now, do they have other songs? Yeah. They do the cover of I'm a Believer. When I saw her face. Okay, but no, that's not their song. Like, obviously we all know them from Shrek.

Hey now, you're an all... That's from Shrek, right? And that was also just like a big song. But I'm saying, everybody says that it's from Shrek. It You're an All that's from Shrek right and that was also just like a big song but I'm saying everybody says that it's from Shrek it's from Rat Race

okay their top five songs are of course All Star I'm a Believer and then Walking on the Sun 150 streams it's a good song yeah you know the song I know the song

okay slaps okay but like watch Rat Race. That's kind of like your... Need I say more? Is that what you want to leave the people with today? Because that was our fifth and final. Just read quickly.

Just read the cast of Rat Race. I don't have my phone. It's important. Okay, do you know that I've never seen Rat Race? You're lying. Yeah, I don't even know what it's about. I'm actually, I'm like disgusted. Is it Jackie Chan?

No. Oh, what am I thinking of that's Jackie Chan that you love? Rush Hour? Rush Hour. Yeah, but Rush Hour doesn't even... Literally same thing. I've said hold the candle twice and I don't even know if it's Chan? No. Oh, what am I thinking of that's Jackie Chan that you love? Rush Hour? Rush Hour. Yeah, but Rush Hour doesn't even... Literally same thing. I said hold the candle twice, and I don't even know if it's the right expression. Okay.

Doesn't even come close to Rat Race. Okay, Rat Race cast... Read this cast. Listen to this. Rowan Atkinson. Yes. Mr. Bean. John Cleese.

Yes. Vince Vooloff. Never heard of any of these people. Oh, wow. I can't believe you would recommend a movie that has Cuba Gooding Jr. in it by the way he was fantastic keep going Whoopi Goldberg

Breckin Meyer Seth Green yes it is Seth Green John Lovitz oh Ben you didn't say Kathy Najimy was in the movie no had you said Queen Kathy Najimy do you know Kathy Najimy yeah and do you know who she's married to in the movie John Lovitz do you know who Kathy Najimy was in the movie. No. Had you said Queen Kathy Najimy, I'd watch. Do you know Kathy Najimy? Yeah.

And do you know who she's married to in the movie? Who? John Lovitz. Do you know who Kathy Najimy is? Of course. I would take a bullet for Kathy Najimy. I'd take a bullet for their marriage. There's an unbelievable scene.

They're a lovely Jewish family in the movie. Oh, wow. And they end up at. Wait, what's the premise of the movie? The premise of the movie is that. Are there any rats in it? No, that there is a race. They're at a casino and all of these high rollers are looking for another way to get on get in on the action so they orchestrate this race of human beings it's like an amazing race where they

all bet on these people to go across the country and like get this key that has that unlocks this box at the end and you're like tracking their journey and they're all trying to race towards the money. It's a race for money. It literally sounds moronic. Okay, it's literally unbelievable. And on John Lovitz's journey, they're a nice Jewish family.

They accidentally have a run-in with Adolf Hitler's supporters. Oh, God. And they end up driving Adolf Hitler's car. And it's the best movie. Wait, does the movie take place in the 40s? No. No. No.

I don't understand. You gotta watch it. Everybody watch Rat Race. That's what you want the people to know. You want them to listen to your podcast, buy Spritz, and watch Rat Race. I'll go through it.

Listen to good guys. Check out Spritz Society, and check out specifically Pink Lemonade. Notify for details, so that you know when, it's gonna sell out. It sold out last time, three days.

Everybody's like, where'd it go? It's's gone and it'll be gone again so notify watch rat race if you have trouble drinking with drinking seek help and if you see somebody that has a drinking problem in your life help them help them so that's like the message you want to leave people with it is those four things like those four things and uh streaming services are gonna be so confused why rat race all of a sudden shot up it's not yeah by the way it's not going to because you like didn't really like make it seem enticing i've literally no interest in watching it after the description you gave it's the best movie i can't explain why but it is just trust me okay will you watch it no why not like maybe maybe in in like a year. Ask me again in a year. Fine. Deal.

All right. That's our show. Thank you guys so much. Hope you guys enjoyed Toast Week Returns. Next week we're back and we've got five episodes. Yes, we have five episodes next week and I'm gonna be in Florida for the Jewish holiday. So I'll be in studio with Jackie, which will be fabulous. So you have that to look forward to. Thank you so much for listening to the Tesla Millennium Morning Show, where we deliver the Fast-Track Stories you need to know about the Friday on YouTube.

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