The Toast - The Free Toast with Suzy Weiss: Friday, May 30th, 2025

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

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Good morning, girlies, it's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. It sounds amazing. Welcome back to the Toast Happy Fry Dairies. I am joined by a new toast guest who I'm so excited to chat to, as they say on Love Island. It is Suzy Weiss from the Free Press.

Welcome, Suzy. I'm Puzzin. I'm Puzzin for so many reasons. We've never met before. No. I've been reading your stuff for so long. So you work for the Free Press, which was started by your sister, Barry, my wife.

One of your sisters. So I have been reading Free Press and I've been following Barry since she left the New York Times. I'm a common sense OG stan. Oh wow. That's like if you're a brother. It's like if you're a brother.

I have so many questions about the behind the scenes of common sense Free Press, but then I read like everything that comes my way. And of course the pop culture stuff is like my fave. And you are the culture of Common Sense Free Press, but then I read like everything that comes my way, and of course the pop culture stuff is like my fave. And you are the culture reporter for the Free Press. I'm the culture critic, I guess, yes. Film, TV, what's going on in the zeitgeist. So I read your stuff all the time.

This is like parent trap. It's like, Hallie, we're sisters. Annie, we're twins. We are, I didn't... We have so much in common. So I read your stuff all the time, and it wasn't until Barry reached out to Claudia and I about you doing the toast this week that I realized that you guys are sisters.

My stage mommy. Right. Suzy Weiss and Barry Weiss are sisters. It's shocking stuff that I never put together. Well, it's like the Hadiths have a new sister as of this week. Did you see that? We don't talk about that. Yeah. Like, no thanks. No, we're fine. I don't know who they are.

So you have been working at the free press for how long? Since it started. We started it together. What were you doing when Barry was at the New York Times and when she left? New York Post. Paper of record. Paper of record.

Somebody say. I'm a post girly. Oh, you are? I'm a page six girl too. Oh, it's so good. You know what they say about page six. You don't want it on page six. Don't do it. Don't do it. I know, but you know, page six girl too. Oh, it's so good. You know what they say about page six. You don't want it on page six. Don't do it.

Don't do it. I know. But you know, page six loves to like clip stuff from our show. Thank you to the team at page six. Oh yeah. I saw them with Barstool KFC. So we have to make news today. What can you tell me?

You had like real like multimedia heavy hitters on. I was watching Lexi Wood and I was like, how long recovery face transplant? Like I was like, this is horrible. It's like people have podcasted for like 15 years. No, I know. But you come from like a different part of the media world. Right. Though you are very pop culture well versed.

So I thought you would be such a perfect guest co-host for like actual talking about the stories, conversation, and just my personal interests. Like I want to get to know you. Like how old are you? 29. And where do you rank in the Weiss sisters? There's four Weiss sisters.

Four Weiss girls. Who knew? Four Oshries. Oh, yeah. I'm the Margo. I'm four. You're the Satchel. You're number four.

What number is Barry? What do you think? The oldest. Of course. Oh, classic. So what do your other two sisters do? Are you two? I'm number two.

What kind of energy do I give off? One? I think you're such a one, cause you're kind of, you're all business. Are you bossy? Ones are bossy. I'm not bossy actually, but I am a bit controlling. You just know how you like things. I'm just like I'm sitting in the corner seething about what's going wrong, but I will not boss people around and tell them about it. Okay, so I don't know what that makes me. I feel like one like oldest and youngest

You know it when you see it. Middles, they say black sheep, they say peacekeeper. So like there's really a peacekeeper. But there's like no like true middle type. Like you know an oldest when you see her. Especially when you're not like dead middle, like a number two out of three. When you're two, like Claudia and I are the middle children, but we don't suffer from middle child syndrome.

Cause when you have an even number that sort of evens itself out. And single, I think having all girls, I'm very pro single sex. Have all girls or all boys, it's inappropriate really to mix. I agree, like what do you do on the hotel room? It's inappropriate. When you go on vacation, like what do people do with their mixed gender children in a hotel room? Do you get separate rooms?

I actually, probably not, but like that's weird. Do you have mixers? Mix actually probably not but like that's your mixers Mixers at night weird by the way Ruby Such a good name. Yes, Claudia's baby. It's so beautiful. Ruben. It's Ruben He's that's his legal name, but like totally Ruby is the name, but I was just like on the way here I was like Rube Tube. Oh my god I'm having delicious definition. Yes having Yes. I'm having so much fun. Strawberry rhubarb pie for the summer.

There's so much lore with Ruby. How is she feeling? She's doing great. She's still Claudia, you know. Perfect. You got nervous. Well, yeah. And also like it can be really stressful

and you don't get any sleep and like you're just sort of like on the edge and like you can lose your mind in the early days. And like she's doing so great and she has a really good like cadence her and Ben like they're crushing it I don't want to jinx anything, but they're crushing it and she's happy and she's well and all as well Wow, bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. IYH. I'm not talking about you. Okay. So what is sisters two and three do? Sisters two and three not in the media biz Okay

Which is so funny because these are the questions that people ask me when they just like are getting to know me. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting that that's what you care about. But okay, but now I'm like, yeah. Yeah, or are they close? Who's the close? And it's like, how did you and Suzy wind up? And do they also have four letter first names? Yeah. No, one has a five. But we're all E's.

Suzy, Barry. Well, I'm Suzanne. Barry, Casey, Molly, Susie. Barry, Casey, Molly, Susie. Where'd you guys grow up? Pittsburgh. Didn't know that either. I know. Great time.

Do people... Yeah, I don't know. I love being one of four girls. I'm curious because we also work with our siblings. And I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with it, but like a startup family business is its own beast. We're obsessed with it, but like a startup family business is its own beast. We're literally so parallel, but so different because like we're pod, but it's all the same. But I should be in your guys' business because.

And I should be working with Barry. You honestly, you should be working with Barry because Barry will be like, well, what do you think of the Iran deal? And I'm like, but what do you think of the sugar bear hair deal should James Charles have accepted it? And we're like, no, there's like no middle ground there, but we make it work. And my sister-in-law is also Barry's wife. Your sister-in-law, oh, Nellie.

Nellie. And she also works for SP. She co-founded Free Press. Yes, yes. And she does the TGIF newsletter. It's amazing. It just came through this morning. It's great stuff.

So if you're not a subscriber to the Free Press, definitely go and do that. Like it's, it's, what do they say? It's like a cringey thing that they say in media, but it actually applies well. It's like a disruptor. No, also that, but it's like, you get your cereal with your broccoli. Like it's like both the healthy, like the meaty stuff that you need with a sprinkle like sugar on top. Yeah. I would say it's, it's what you need to know. It's sort of what people liked about old media. Curiosity, independence. Questioning. Questioning, kind of covering a really wide breadth

of stories, but it's voicey. It doesn't pretend the internet doesn't exist. We have a lot of great writers and new columnists now, and it's so much fun. Yeah. TheFP.com. TheFP.com, also Kat Rosenfeld is a columnist, right? Oh, she's brilliant.

And she's also a writer. She writes books, yeah? Because I read one of her books. Yes. And then I was like, is this the same person? Yes. I'm going to get all the behind the scenes, Steve, about the free press. Like, what's the office culture like?

The office, oh my God, well, because it's a family business, like the other week I go, Barry, please stop tickling me at work. And like our editorial system was like, oh God. Like we were on this huge Zoom meeting once, because we also do these big debates we did was the sexual revolution a mistake, like all these kind of like big events and which is what we're here to discuss today. Yeah, exactly.

Kidding. Don't be your pants. It's gonna be okay. And we're in this big zoom and it's like these kind of meaty producers and it's like really serious and cameramen and Barry goes, okay, you should get there Thursday. Sue's, it's fine if you get there Friday. Don't forget your undies. Like a 20 person meeting.

Don't forget your undies. You have forgotten your undies. Yeah. Like she does need to tell me. So I can't really get mad. That's really funny because Claudia and I work together, but it's really, we have a very small team, like we're very bare bones. So it's not like we're have a rest of like an office culture and like where we have to be like

Buttoned up in certain scenarios and then unbuttoned in others, but that's a funny dynamic Yeah, because we're like talking about work or business or you know hiring someone then it's like dad is so annoying Like oh my god, and then we're like we're kids again You know what I mean and like we have our own language like you and Claudia have our own your own language It's it's fun. What were you doing at the New York Post when you worked there? I was doing features. So culture, culture coverage.

Like what's that? It was a lot of like internet culture, dating, mating, relating, losers, jackasses, assholes, like that trends. I covered like people only eating meat. I covered, remember those Ray wellness drops that were on TikTok that girls were obsessed with? I'm not on TikTok. Oh, okay. They were these like, they were wellness drops. And really they were just a laxative to make you skinnier. But of course they were like greenwashed to be like, these

are so good for longevity and a moon boosting. And it's like, how do you know they're good for longevity? It's like, you don't know if you're dead yet. All these things that are like, that's so good for longevity. It's like, well, who's to say, babe? I think you have to wait it out. So true. Okay, I'll stop making that claim. But it's a lot.

Some things maybe are good for longevity. But yeah, so I was covering all sorts of stuff and then Barry left the New York Times, called me up and said, do you want to do this? And if Barry called me and said, like, we're starting a floral business or I don't know if you feel this way about Claudia, like we're starting a bakery. Like are we doing it? It's like, yeah, where's my apron? Like, of course, like sort of whatever it would have been, I would have been happy to

do. No, I totally agree. Did you always see yourselves eventually working together considering you were both working in media or you were just sort of like unparalleled? She's 12 years older than me. So I was just like, she's doing her own thing and I'm like, you know, finding someone who lost 80 pounds on leading McDonald's for the New York Post.

And then once you do it and they're like, find someone who lost a hundred. You also wrote something about Ozempic a few weeks ago. Yes, I did. And I was actually like sending quotes to Claudia because it was also, you're a very funny writer. So that's why you're such a great writer. And I was actually sending quotes to Claudia, because also you're a very funny writer, so that's why you're such a great writer. I actually laugh out loud.

Thank you. And you were talking about women who are just a couple, 10, 15 pounds overweight, who wouldn't typically be a candidate for a weight loss medication, but it's changed their lives. Right. That thing that's always been niggling at them is gone.

Yes, and it's like, if you can pay a dollar amount, I always think about that. And that's gonna be me one day. I just want everyone to know. Like, that will be me. Well, I think in the... That will be me. Using OZM in a while. Oh, Jackie, O-O-O-O-ZM. Put me in coach.

Oh, my God. Like, when I read that article, I was enjoying it, but I was also extremely jealous, because I'm like, this sounds wonderful. Well, it's gonna be, it's gonna, it's coming out as a pill in early 2025. And then I think it's almost gonna be like Tylenol, where it's like, ah, I feel a little big.

I feel a little hungry. Yeah, I feel a little hungry. Let me pop this pill. It's a miracle. And I think it's sort of similar to the birth control pill that sort of allowed women to act more like men in a way. I get to decide when I have my kid, I get to focus on my career, I get to do all of this stuff.

I mean, we all know how men lose weight. They eat a little less tortilla chips. Three less and they lose 40 pounds. It's unbelievable. A woman, it's just harder to lose weight. And it's just one of those big dividers. And I think we're about, I mean, I kind of went, we're about to see a revolution in this space. No, I think that you said that in your piece

and it's such a good analogy. Like it is like the birth control pill. It gives you like autonomy over when, till you're gonna lose weight when you're, especially as you're having children. And it's like, of course, there's a million things to consider. The thought of your body changing

is not the greatest feeling, but it's like knowing that at the end of the journey, there's gonna be something that will help you feel like yourself again, like that kind of takes the pressure off a little bit. Or like, yeah, exactly, like go up the mountain if you want, but there's like a car right there if you want to get into it. And it's like, okay, maybe I'll go up the mountain, but if I want to get in the car, I'm gonna get in the car.

Yeah. It's, yeah, I think I thought about when I was writing that essay, like how many millions of Weight Watchers points have been counted in my lifetime? Like how many strength... Have you ever been overweight? I've been at my heaviest. I mean, we're short.

I'll tell you. Me, a 5'1", and I agree, every pound, it's like, yeah, I was overweight from that time I gained that pound. No, it's like you have one meal and you're like, I need to go to an inpatient center. Literally, it's like when you're so short, like, yesterday I'm overweight, today I'm BMI correct. Like, it's the difference of pounds. It's unbelievable.

I mean, I also got a nose job. Oh, okay. Like, what would have been like 10 years ago now? And it really works. It's like you don't think about that thing that really bothered you anymore. And of course, I'd love to be like transcendent over my body and one with Mother Gaia and Mother Earth and never give a second thought. I'll be that way when I'm skinny.

Yeah, exactly. Me too. When the dress fits and I can wear whatever I want and not think about my arms. Yeah, I'm not going to be worried that I'll be one with Mother Earth. Exactly. Yeah. Oh my God. That's really funny. So have you ever been overweight or just like feeling that way? It's really an internal thing. I've never been like diabetic or pre-diabetic. I. I've probably been like big for our category of 5'2", because I think what are we supposed to be like 25 pounds? Like 5'2", is 110 pounds. Well, I remember, well, how old was, remember when Courtney talked about she was like 90 pounds or something, but like she looked great. She looks

great. And she's also like, she's 5'1", she's super short. They're all really short. Yeah. No, it's like at five foot, you're supposed to be a hundred pounds. And then it's like five pounds per inch after that. It's just not gonna work for me. It's not gonna work for me. Without those endpoints. Or Wigovia or any of it.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not like brand specific. I'll take whatever. I can get my hands on. You've never taken it? No, it came around when I was pregnant with my first. And then like my philosophy is like, I don't really want to take it until I'm done having kids.

If I can get away with that. Yeah, so that's sort of like where I'm at. We'll see. Yeah, it's funny, the response to the essay, there was a lot of people who were like, it's not allowed to be this easy. Like it shouldn't, like there's something almost spiritually wrong with getting a quick fix. And it almost felt like people like when TV came out to be

like, I'll stick with my radio. Thanks. Sort of like angry that they're not going to get that they had to do the hard thing. Yeah. Um, I don't know. We'll see. There's all these crazy studies coming out. Tim did, you know, Tim Dylan, he has this amazing joke because, you know, Ozempic makes you stop gambling, it makes you less prone to shopping addiction, you're less of an addict, it's like turning everyone into like a Norwegian. It's like we're literally all gonna be walking around in like, like blonde with like ski gear on. But if everything is true about this drug, like it may be a miracle drug, cut to seven months later, like we're all dying on like the side of

the road. But we'll see. We'll see, or it could be the key to longevity. Yeah, exactly, the key to like the real, what was it, Blue Zone? What's that? Is that that guy? The Blue Zones were like the places in the Mediterranean where if you ate like them, you would live to 100.

Blue Zones were places where people left to 100. I do think it was debunked. Oh, got it. Where'd you go to college? University of Michigan. Nice, where'd you go? Go blue. Columbia. Classic.ed. Oh, got it. Where'd you go to college? University of Michigan. Nice, where'd you already go? Go blue. Columbia.

Classic. I probably knew that. That's why she's big mad. That's why she is who she is. She's so big mad. She's big mad and she should be. Well, I went to Colgate and I look like a proud Colgate alum today.

And my maroon, this is Colgate colors. But this is the bar. What is the bar? It's a brand started by an influencer, Bridget. Her handle is at Bridget. I don't know if anyone knows her last name, but she's like such a queen. If you don't follow her, you totally should.

And these sweatshirts like just took over the world. This isn't your first time seeing one in person. It's authentic. Can I touch it? Yeah, no, that's a sweatshirt, but it's really, well, I've watched this one a million times, but like before you watch them, they're so oversized, like in the exact way that you want

the oversized sweatshirt to be. And that's why it was a bar revolution. Is it bar, drinking bar or protein bar? Neither. Or setting the bar? Setting the bar. Oh, I love that. Okay.

That's really good. I just, do you know David protein bars? Yes, they're a sponsor. Not today, but oh my God, they just raised a huge amount of money. Go David. You're welcome. David might be the Queenie. David might be the Queenie We're gonna do Queenie and Weenie today because it's fried dairies and that's what we do on Friday

So you've come prepared and also another fun fact about you is that you're a swirly like you're a big toaster I'm a big toaster Jackie. I have to tell you there were war rooms at the Free Press HQ preparing for this today Oh really like like go pargy and P-job, like the whole thing. And they're like, they're like drilling me. And I'm like, oh my God, and everyone in my life is a toaster. So I would do this thing where I'll go up to someone I'll be like, have you heard of this podcast? Like the toast, like, obviously, I know they heard of it.

And they go, oh my God, I go, I'm hosting this podcast. I don't know. They go, oh, you're a suzerain. And it's like, the amount of people were like, shout me out, shout me out, shout me out. And it's like, hello, everyone who was at Julie's wedding this weekend. It was such a beautiful wedding. My best friend got married. He's wedding. Where did she get married? In Pittsburgh, my best friend's wedding. Oh, fun.

Which is a very like your sister having a baby. It's this very heavy frat, but amazing thing. Yeah, because you're worried like, oh, my God, they're going to evaporate into the ether. But then, oh, my God, they're just they're here, but they're just kind of better. Yeah. No, it's like it's so the same. just, they're here, but they're just kind of better. Yeah, no, it's like, it's so the same. And now they're not like this stressful bitch planning a wedding. They're just like, they're your friend that you have back and who's enjoying her life.

I know, but it's hard for me. I don't know what to do during the wedding, because there's like a vibe, you probably know how to handle this, around the bride where it's like... Celebrity. Celebrity. Yeah. And it's like, I want to be able to talk to my friend, but like, I don't want to say the wrong thing. And I always say the wrong thing.

Like at the welcome drinks, we were watching the Knicks game and then the Knicks lost. And then I turned to my best friend, Julie. I go, would have been way better at the Knicks one. And it's like, yeah. But who are the Knicks are playing the Pacers. Where did they hail from? Oh, where did the Pacers hail from?

I thought they were from your state. Philly? Pennsylvania? Indiana. That's what I was going to say. This whole time I thought they'd been going back and forth. Like, Philadelphia Pacers, my favorite team. Well, we have some Knicks news, we have some sports news.

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What happened to Bruno's teeth? Hmm. Bruno went in for a routine teeth cleaning because they say that your dog should do that. They have to like go under anesthetic and they're like, if you don't do it, like you have to do it apparently. It's like really bad.

He had like all this tar. Okay, so just we'll do it once. So they'll stop telling us to do it. And then they're like, he has like 14 teeth that are like dead and you need to take them out. Isn't that all of the teeth? How many? Well apparently they have 50 something, but they wanted to remove 14 teeth. I'm like, okay, well what if I don't? And they're like, well, he'll die. You know, they're just making it sound so like I had to decide in that moment

while he was still under anesthetic. And I'm like, okay, and they're like, and that'll be $6,000. Thanks, Bruno. Thanks, Bruno. But Bruno's doing great actually, and his teeth are beautiful. But yeah, pet insurance, because you just never know what's gonna happen. Our first story, some sports news. Knicks game six last night. They won.

And they won. And you can feel it in the air. It's just electric. The thing is, I couldn't feel it in the air. Usually I know if they won or didn't win based on like, when I wake up in the morning, if, like, Ben Soffer has, like, posted stories, if he's gone quiet, they've lost. Like, and so I never have to, like, seek out

if they've won or not. It just finds me. But this morning, I, like, had to go to New York Post Sports, like, did they win? And I felt like, and they did. But I feel like no one was making a big deal out of it, even though it was, like, a do or die game. Well, yeah, because they lost the last two. So I think they were like, pull this one out. If they lost this one, they're out.

But they didn't lose it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're back in the game. So it should be way more excited. I just saw Ben Stiller tweeting about it, because he's like a die-hard Knicks fan. Yeah, it was amazing. I love Celebrity Row. I love the outfits. So the story for us is that Kylie and Timothy went to the game and passionately made out on the sidelines.

I saw that. They're sitting from all angles. Like, I seriously love these two. What are your thoughts on them? Together forever. But I will add that I always think every couple's together forever. Like, I'm shocked whenever anyone ever... I do the same way. I'm like, it's done. Like, put a fork in it. It's so good. I think they're an amazing couple. I think he's likely the dad that stepped up.

And I'm so happy for her. I think she looks gorgeous. I agree. She's just a joy to watch. Like, even when she just posted like a makeup video yesterday of her doing her makeup, like, it's nothing revolutionary. I could watch it on repeat. She's just like, she's so confident.

She's so beautiful, happy, like... Moisturized in her lane. She's just like, she's so confident. She's so beautiful, happy. Like- Moisturizing her lane. She's just like, I'm obsessed with her. And I was happy to see them again because they'd taken a little break from games but also they were playing in, I guess, Indiana. And this would have been bad if they lost but I'm starting to feel like Kylie's a good luck charm

for the Knicks, just saying. Do you predict that there's gonna be a royal wedding? No. Between them? No. You don't think they're ever gonna get married? No, I think like- Yeah, I don't think she's a wedding person.

It's like just not worth it. And I think sooner they will have a baby. I'm waiting for, I'm on like baby alert. Cause she wants a lot of kids and this is her guy. Like I think that they're gonna, but I think she's just having so much fun and she's just like so snatched. And it's like, it's hard to let that go.

Oh my God, that body don't fit. I feel for her that at some point she's gonna have to like, you know, say goodbye to that temporarily. So I feel like she's just putting it off, but I do think that's imminent. I love these women who it's like, they're much wealthier than the men they're with. Hayley Rode Bieber now.

It's like, don't count them out. Like who can forget when like the Kardashians started going to Bieber now. Yeah. It's like, don't count them out. Yeah. Like, who can forget when, like, the Kardashians started going to the Met Gala and it was like, oh my God, like, there goes the neighborhood a little bit. But now it's like, oh, anyone who's accompanying them is lucky for it. And Timothy is such a dreamboat. So charming. I didn't, never thought so before, but now I'm totally on the Timothy bandwagon.

Like, I get it. Everyone loves him. And also he is like this great artist, but he also has swagger. Like he's very cool. I think he's probably a great guy all around. I saw a New York Post article about how people are trying to get men are trying to get Timothy's body and he's like spawning a different manorexia. Oh, I don't like that because he's so like kind of thin and gangly. I don't like that. I don't like that. But it's like, let them have a taste for a second. Oh, yeah. Oh, I don't like that. Because he's so like kind of thin and gangly. I don't like that. I don't like that, but it's like,

let them have a taste for a second. Oh yeah, I was like trying to stay skinny. That's so true, but just in terms of like what I would want people to look like, no, they ain't, like all the skinny guys, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, they're like Pete Davidson look. Yeah, not for me.

No. But I do like your perspective on it, like let them try. Yeah, yeah, let them try for a second. Let them have to exercise willpower and be miserable. Go off. My perspective on, do they have like a compound name? Not one that everyone's using, but you could do Kimithay,

yeah. Sounds like Kim though. Or Tylee. I love Tylee. But no one's calling them anything. I feel like everybody just is sort of rooting against them except for you and I. You know what I mean? Like why aren't, why don't they have a couple name?

Yeah, because I ship them. Also they're like the only people not falling apart. Yeah. Like they're presenting a united front. They're in love. No, and like they're so hot and heavy and they've been this way for two years. Like they're still making out courtside, even though they probably, not shouldn't, but like that's just not what you do when you're public figure, like to be so like,

but they just can't keep their hands off each other. Oh my God, they're obsessed with each other. Yeah, so it's like, imagine what they do in private. Jackie! Clutching my pearls! Yes! What they do in private. I don't know.

I mean, I've thought about it, obviously, but. No, I'm just like, that's private. I don't know. I mean, I've thought about it, obviously. But no, I'm just like, that's just how I think of it. Like they literally can't stop kissing. Even though like most people like act cool in that situation, I think they try their best. I always wonder like how much time they're spending together because it's like they both seem so busy. Yeah. Well, I think they've really ingrained themselves into each other's lives. Like I do believe she has a place here in New York and like he works out of here a lot.

Yeah. And then he just bought a place here in New York and like he works out of here a lot. Yeah. And then he just bought a place in Beverly Hills. His mom told us that. Wow. So I really, I think it's like, if you want to, you will. Yeah, if you wanted to, he will. That is really the lesson of that relationship. People like to like blame things on scheduling issues,

but like, I'm sorry, if you want to be around this person, you will be around them. No question. And I also think it's a great example of like a different sort of family structure where it's like you had children with someone, it didn't work out. That doesn't mean your life's over.

Like you can have another like run at it and still have like a sort of like youthful, like sparkly love, which I really like for them. Me too, me too. And I'm happy for the nigs. I'm happy for Ben Soffer and the Brunson boys. So happy for them. I love also her courtside style.

Oh yeah. It's very like, It's very cool. Yes. Very, very cool with the hat. And it's just like, He could maybe use a little work. I think he's maybe gone a little overboard.

Yeah, but he's enjoying this new persona. Like no one's ever thought he's this cool before. Everyone, like, respects him and, like, knows he's a great actor, but, like, this has given him so much street cred, like, being the face of the Knicks, like, every... I don't know, it just happened overnight. But I think he's really enjoying being, like, the Knicks mascot. No question. He's the Knicks mascot, and I wish him all the best.

Yeah, and he deserves it. He's put in a lot of work of just being like the nerdy. Who's he playing next? Do we know? He's doing that Gwyneth Paltrow movie that they were making out in. Oh, yeah, the Softie movie. She gave really funny quotes about that. Yeah. I might see that now that I want to support Timothy

and I love Gwyneth. We love Gwyneth. In this house, we believe science and we stan Gwyneth Paltrow. I know that. We believe in science. Whatever it says. I don't know what it says. That's so funny.

Some more big New York news is that Taylor Swift is breaking cover going out for dinner in New York City last night. She went to her go-to Italian restaurant via Coroto, which isn't like major news, but it is major that she's like stepping out again. So she's been low-key with Travis for the last few months since the Super Bowl, he's working on his fitness, he's living down in Florida. So you have long hair now?

There's like a crazy haircut. He's got flow. There's flow, there's flow going on. There's flow. Sure. And they have been seen like having dinner in Palm Beach and stuff, but all very low-key. And now she like stepped out, did the thing,

New York City, all dressed up. I love how proudly basic she is. Yeah. It's like, I'm going to Via Corota, I'm getting the Cacio e Pepe, I'm having a Negroni, I'm wearing my sweater, and I'm leaving. You know what I mean?

There's something so amazing. She doesn't seek out the deep cut, cool thing. Yeah. And she's a queen queen for that I think. Yeah that she's not going to like, it is nice that she goes to like the restaurants that are popular at the moment like that everyone wants to go to. They were popular five years ago. Oh yeah no but like what was the other one last fall it was like corner store.

I don't, I'm not big in the restaurant scene are you? No, I'm not big in the restaurant scene. I think food culture's gotten a little broken and like broken our brains a little bit. And I think people sort of like treat restaurants like, you gotta try that, must have, everything's must have. It's like their hair's on fire about a taco. And it's like, everyone needs to take a deep breath

on this one. You also just wrote something about like Anthony Bourdain, your release. I'm getting like ravaged online. Backlashes or whatever? Yes, we both, I mean, I was canceled first when I was 17. Now I'm being canceled again. Like I'm old hat at this.

That's a cancellation. Oh my God, canceled queen. But I'm like, they've gotten much more sophisticated, the trolls. So I'm getting messages like, I know a doctor who could fix that. And I'm like, fix what? Like it's so mean. It's like, why are teeth like that? And it's like, oh no. Like, it's so mean. It's like, why are teeth

like that? And it's like, oh no. But that's so funny because I've been told, I didn't even know what you looked like. And I'm a fan. So where are they finding all the, like, you're not like a, I think your Instagram is private. My Instagram is private, but it's like, it's my name. People can find it. And then we did this like, I wrote about Anthony Bourdain and how I think- So what was the thesis? Just share with the class. The thesis about the Anthony Bourdain take was that,

perhaps you can have a pizza without having an existential crisis. And even though Anthony Bourdain was really good at what he did, he did not invent being lonely and getting drunk at the same time. And a meal isn't necessarily authentic just because you left to go in a tunnel and army crawl to get there.

And I really hit a nerve. I really hit a nerve with this one. I sort of thought I assumed I would because he's a saint. He is a saint. But I feel like what you wrote wasn't really a referendum on Andy Bourdain himself, just the way that people talk about him and like, yes, severe him. It was about like the the fan boys and girls, even though it's mostly boys, not what he did because he did cool stuff. Yeah, he did his thing. He did whatever. He worked the whole way.

He got tattooed on air. Yeah. You know, he had drinks with the president. That was the whole thing when he went to Vietnam. And it was just like, you know what, enough. It's like, get new heroes. I don't know. I mean, it's, I mean.

More so, you're criticizing the people, the way that people engage with him posthumously and how they engage with food I think the bear is to blame for this too. It's like you can make a sandwich without having a personality disorder You don't have to like like Like freak out like just have a burger. Enjoy yourself. I love how Ben's offer eats. Yeah, I think it just it's he's having fun He's cooking food for Claudia. This all came because Stanley Tucci has that new show. Okay, yeah, he's the new Anthony Bourdain, they say. Yes, but I think he's sort of like a...

A healthier version. Maybe a mentally healthier version. Mentally healthier. That's horrible. I know I'm gonna get like wrecked again. And it's like, jeez. I don't have any like, stake in this. Like I'm not super familiar with Anthony.

I don't care about, with Tony. I don't care about... With Tony. I don't care so much, like, about food and food culture. Like, I like to cook and I'm learning and I'm... I do, like... I'm not a part of this conversation. So, like, I feel like a totally unbiased sounding board. And what you're saying to me sounds, like, totally innocuous. Yeah, no shade to him, but I think the legacy,

combined with the bear, combined with a few other things, of sort of like... It's like, are you a rock star? Or do you work in the back of a kitchen? Like, I don't know, like, that's just... I'm just noticing things. I'm just noticing. Yeah. But how do we get on this subject? We were talking about restaurants.

So restaurants in Via Coro da. What are your favorite restaurants in the city? Where they do things in a mentally healthy way. Oh. Well, it's funny, I feel like every time you go to a restaurant, What are your favorite restaurants in the city? Where they do things in a mentally healthy way. Well, it's funny. I feel like every time you go to a restaurant, you're like, I'll look at the menu and like the more I look at it, the less I understand it. It's like frond, like moral, guanciale.

And I'm like, what is it? Is it pasta? Like, it's like you're just giving me words. Sometimes it's adjectives. Sometimes it's like juicy. Like, frond. Like a leaf. And I'm like...

I went to this restaurant in, I think it was Bed-Stuy called Daphne's last night. It was really great. Cute name. Yes. And they did like a tiramisu, but instead of ladyfingers, there was croissant, which I loved because who likes a ladyfinger? It tastes stale. Yeah, totally.

Ew. But via Corotas is great too. Yeah, I don't know if I've ever been to via Coroto. I'm an uptown girl, when I was here. You know, I'm a Serafina girl. Oh, love. Love, I'm tried and true. That's really, what do you get there?

Little pen made Pomodoro, Pennella vodka, and Margherita pizza, and a Porta Trova salad. Like we keep it simple. They do, I'm thinking of Sarah Betts. They do the soft scrambled egg that people love. They do brunch, that's great for brunch. Yes. Yeah. And that's a classic.

That's like something that I would like as well. You're an order in or you're a make yourself. Well, if like being in the city last few weeks, I'm literally ordering breakfast, lunch and dinner. Like obviously I'm not cooking here, but at home, like when I'm in my own environment, I prefer, like I do prefer not ordering in. I would rather go to a restaurant. I just feel like the way delivery comes, it's just not appetizing. Well, now that we're on the subject of restaurants, I have to say, like the restaurants, the perfect thing, like you come in, they see you, they bring you the menus you order, like, it cannot be improved upon. And now I feel like you go to restaurants and it's like,

have you been with us before? And it's like, no. And it's like, let me tell you how this works. It's a new concept where it's like 14 things off the first page and like 30 things off the second page. And then here's a buzzer and you have to get it yourself. You actually have to cook it yourself. And I'm a little bit like, this was a perfect thing. We don't need to improve on it.

I would blame one, COVID, you know, cause all of us people did forget. Cue our menus. Cue our menus. Rather not eat. And also like no more room service. Like, oh, here, your food comes not on a tray, on the silver plate. It's just like one of life's great pleasures.

Yeah, it now comes like in a brown bag and it's actually from down the street. So like they just did blame Fauci. And then also I do think people just want to keep reinventing the wheel. And I also think that think people just want to keep reinventing the wheel. And I also think that they kind of have to. I saw, I don't know, a statistic, I don't know if it was right or wrong,

that it was like pretty much 80% of like food, restaurant business comes from delivery now. So I feel like they want to get people back in the restaurant. Or do they? Maybe delivery is actually cheaper overhead. And then you get like ghost kitchens. Yeah.

To the ghost kitchen. Yeah. Stealth mode. I love a ghost kitchen. I used to have a favorite one, but I think. Shout out to the ghost kitchen. Yeah, stealth mode. I love a ghost kitchen. I used to have a favorite one, but I think it closed. A favorite ghost kitchen? Like one of those. It just felt like home.

Like a place that I always ordered from. And it's like, I like that their focus is delivery. When I'm getting delivery, I want it to be optimized for delivery. For delivery. Like you ever order delivery from Nobu? Yucky, yucky. I wouldn't do that. I'd rather have McDonald's. Like it, cause it's optimized for delivery.

No question. I mean, pasta, you really can't get delivered. I don't think. I think it's steamy and sweaty. Yeah, exactly. So, I just think that's something you need to solve for. Yeah, there is an element of like you'll go into a restaurant and they'll be really busy, but no one will be in there and it's because they're doing delivery orders and you feel

bad for the people working back there because they're serving quadruple the amount of people that they have capacity for. And yeah, I think you're right. COVID kind of, it gave an excuse for people to kind of like deteriorate the product. But also, yeah, people wanted to reinvent the wheel. People wanted to have touchless contactless. I go to a restaurant for contact. Yeah. To be touched. Right. She's just looking for contact.

Yeah. I'm just skin hungry over here. She's Anthony Worden. Maybe I. It was projection. It was projection. Yeah, I'm just skin hungry over here. She's Anthony Bourdain. Maybe us. It was projection. It was projection. No, I'm just so lonely. I'm cracking up. It'll be okay.

We stand with Suzy. Yes, we stand with a canceled queen. Our next story is some interesting news. Excited to get your take because Sydney Sweeney is teaming up with Dr. Squatch to release a bar of soap made from her bath water. So Sydney Sweeney is taking men's bath products to the next level. On Thursday, a natural body care line called Dr. Squatch,

that's what that is, revealed that it teamed up with Ms. Sweeney to create a soap made from her bath water. A joint post said, you kept asking about my bath water after the Dr. Squatch ad, so we kept it. Introducing Sydney's Bathwater Bliss, a very real, very limited edition soap made with my actual bath water. Available on June 6th at DrSquatch.com.

One thing about Sydney Sweeney, the girl is getting her bag. Yeah. She, I mean, what's the skin care brand she reps? I forget. Oh, it's on her Instagram. She's always posted. I forget what it is.

I don't think it's La Mer. It's... Laneige, yes, with the lip mask. And I mean, I love her. You do? Yes. I think she's like all American. I think she's really fun.

I think she stays in her lane and just sort of like let's let's millions of flowers bloom. Yeah in there She's not trying to also be a singer. She's not like that's true And she's not like, you know shaving her head just cuz she doesn't like everyone like Like she's like here you got this is what you like. Here's more. Here's my bath water. Yeah, exactly She's in on the joke though. Yeah about her. It's not like, hey, take me seriously. My eyes are up here. Like she's having fun with it. And I think like, I kind of want to try the soap.

I guess it is for men. I just wonder how much a brand like this has to pay her to like be so goofy like this. Like, you know, cause it's so unserious and like it is appealing to like people's base instincts. So like, I just wonder how they got her to go along with this. And it feels like money would do that. Yeah, but like, I don't. Does Dr. Squatch have that coin? Who's Dr. Squatch? It's like Dr. Bronner's like step cousin. I've never heard of Dr. Squatch. I don't. It's also unless like she's Dr. Squatch because the doctor could be a

woman. She had her PhD. Oh yeah, we forget it because the doctor could be a woman. She had her PhD. Yeah. Oh, yeah We forget it because the doctor could be a woman My doctor's watch is my PCP because you said he is the cousin Thank you for calling me in. Thank you for calling me in Well, if doctor squat if a female PhD is creating a bar of soap with Sydney Sweeney's bathwater I'll eat it, but she could also just be like a regular doctor. Not PhD. PhD is like the doctorate. Like an MD? Is PhD MD?

No, those are different. Right. PhD is like teacher. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like Dr. Joe Biden. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like teacher. What do you think of this bath soap? Are you going to use it?

No. And I feel like once it said, like, it's for men, I feel good about the fact that I don't even have to think about, should I be using this? Well, it's like an Axe reinvention. Remember when Axe had like that really macho marketing? Yeah. Well, do you think they actually, like they said they saved her bath water and it's a drop of bath water in each.

Like, do you think that that's even true? Like, or it's just marketing? I mean, I don't know what they can get away with in terms of, like, puffery claims around this. I would love... Right. And in terms of hygiene, you know, not that it's, not that anything would turn up, but like that's just...

Like, could they sell... You're making soap and it has dirty bath water? Well, it's like, it's, yeah, like selling used underwear or something. It's like when I saw that question about that the other day for dear toasters. How would you advise? If I found that out? I'm too old to make complaints at this point. I say whatever you want. They'll take what you can get. There's worse things. He wants to be close to you. Yeah exactly exactly. Yeah. I mean, it's nice. He can jump in the shower with some Sydney Sweeney bath soap. Right.

Would you rather find Sydney Sweeney bath soap or your own dirty undies? My own dirty undies. Agreed. So this is actually more concerning. This is a good gift, you know, every guy, like for the guy who like Sydney Sweeney's may help us. Yeah, yeah. Merry Christmas.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean, I love the advertising around it. I think, I also think she's like, she's just so fun to watch. She's mesmerizing. And Euphoria season three, when is that coming out? Filming now. TBD.

Do you watch Euphoria? Of course. Yeah. And also you're on the culture beat. Like you kind of have to. I think I... Even though so am I, but I don't. I think Sam's brilliant.

I think everything he does is brilliant. You do? Yeah. I really do. You're Sam Gurley. Absolutely. And I just think that... Not that I even know what that means. You do? Yeah. Um, yeah, I just, I think the show is really...

Did he also do that show with The Weeknd? Yeah, he did The Idol. And you thought that was brilliant? I haven't seen it. Okay. She's Mark Safe. Mark Safe from the... Yeah, exactly. I haven't seen it yet, but I just think he's just really... His dialogue's really good. It just feels really, like, fresh.

And I'm so excited to see season three. Okay, positivity. Is there anything you don't like other than Anthony D'Ordain's fans? His legacy. Yeah, his fans, the fan base. I just want you to know, like, that's always so frustrating when you say something and, like, people run with it. She hates Anthony D'Ordain. Like, that's not much she... So we just need to, like, make it known, Anthony D'Ordain's fans.

And the culture around... Yeah, no, I understand what you're saying. Like, thinking too seriously, I think. I understand what you're saying, but it's frustrating to be misunderstood, don't you find? I do find, I am misunderstood. You know those pillows they used to have from like- Yeah, like little misunderstood.

Yeah, exactly, I'm like, I'm so gawped because I got canceled this week. I need to go to Hot Topic and just rage. It's been a rough one. That's why she had to go to Daphne's. Oh yeah, exactly. No, that part was really great. Yeah, I had to go undercover. Here's the thing. I don't like me being misunderstood. No one does. But I think you get to a point where you see people intentionally misreading you. And then you start to kind of wise up

and be like- To rise above. Yeah. when they go low, we go lower. That's what I always say. So I'm just trying to find a lower take. Yeah. I'm like, you have no idea the bottom that I'm going to look for and find. It gets worse. You want to go? Hello? Yeah, let's go, baby. I mean, come on. I mean, what did I write about recently that I read Melinda Gates memoir? Did not like that.

TLDR. Complain, complain, complain. What's the T? I mean, what did I write about recently that I read Melinda Gates memoir? Oh. Did not like that. TLDR. Complain, complain, complain. What's the tea? It's like, honey, it's like, get a bauble, get a plane, get some, spend some revenge money. I mean, the things, I mean, Melinda Gates aside, like, you're one of the richest men in the world.

I don't think he was particularly easy to be married to. But this, the book was just all about like, I had to search for myself, I had to go on as they say in Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, a healing journey. A healing journey. You know what, that's the word that you are at the moment. Healing journey.

I was just thinking healing, period. I was just something like, I was thinking about something. Everyone is healing. Or everyone's on a journey. Do you watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives? I watched the first. It's funny, my friend, my best friend is here. We were in Florida recently, and I literally like forced our gunpoint to watch the first season.

Some of the best television that's ever been made. It was like before the first commercial break, she had gotten pregnant, lost the baby, got pregnant again. That was on the pilot. Yeah. That was unbelievable. And then by the end of the episode, arrested. Yes, by the end of the, she is something else.

She is, but I will never say a bad word about her. I'm obsessed. I just, I just hope Mom Talk can survive this. I think that they can because of Taylor, Frankie, Paul, like she will rise above. What were we just, oh, heal, so Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, like they're all healing

and they're all being held accountable and that's always fun. That's my favorite. Healing is my favorite. We love healing. We love longevity, immune boosting, collagen production. This is classic podcast banter, don't you know? Really? Yeah.

Well, not on this podcast, but other podcasts, these are the topics du jour. Well, I don't know if you've followed the Ace Family drama. You were telling me a little bit about it, but please, like, please be Claudia today and do a, uh, Suzy explains it all, because there's a lot of drama happening. There's a lot of scoop going on right now, and that's that Kathy Hilton sound.

What's the second half? I forget. Oh, we love Kathy Hilton. We do. We love all the same people. Yeah, no, that's why I'm waiting for you to say something like really actually negative about someone. You're really positive. I'm generally really positive. I will say the Ace Family drama sucked me in this week and I could have some negative things to say about Austin McBroom. Basically, the Ace Family,

they're this YouTube family. They've been filming- Like a family channel. But like the biggest family channel. OK. This is the one. They have three children. If I can name them, I really should get my University of Michigan degree taken away. L, Steele. And I forget the third one.

But they broke up. There's been for years cheating allegations against Austin McBroom. Do you watch YouTube? Are you like a YouTube girl? No. OK. I only watch the toast. But no, I don't. Do you watch the McBrooms? I don't, but I like, I keep abreast. I go in my situation room and they tell me about it. But basically they broke up. Katherine has a memoir coming out, Aliyah. Katherine

has a memoir coming out, went on Call Her Daddy and sort of let it all out, what was going on with Austin, how he was cheating, how it went down. Austin goes on Snapchat, looks like she's having last laugh. I mean, come on, get someone to have you on their podcast. And he just sort of says that she became addicted to Ayahuasca, she was taking it every month, she thought she was the Virgin Mary.

And it's sort of this like classic, it's almost, I don't want to say Shakespearean, but it's like she is like this kind of damsel in distress that she's been betrayed. And she's coming forward about it now that she's on her healing journey. And Austin is saying, well, it actually didn't go down like that. She's crazy. And it's just been so fun to watch. Are you going to read her memoir? No.

Why? I just feel like I'll probably just get the highlights. Yeah. You read Melinda's? I did read Melinda's. Yeah. To what end? Just to write about it. And I wanted, here's the thing. I'm not going to read Catherine's memoir because you get all of the best bits. Like on podcasts.

In the podcasts and the clips on YouTube because that's what they're good. Melinda's pretty much like private person. Melinda's a closed book. If you want to know anything about her book. So it's open her book. Right. But then she gave you nothing. It's like, don't tell me that you didn't find out about whatever was going on with Bill

and go spend half a million dollars at Bloomingdale's. Right. You know what I mean? Or whatever her thing is. And does she ever say what's going on with Bill? Yeah, I mean, he had been unfaithful. But that was sort of known. But any like, is the word Epstein in the book?

The word Epstein is, she says, she words it really interesting. She says like, I had known Bill had stepped outside the marriage, but he had done- We don't wanna miss this, turn to the mic. Oh, sorry, like he had done something that had, like betrayed not only our marriage, but

my values is how she put it. And I'm like, give us a little, come on. Okay. But that's a pretty cool way to put it. Yeah. Like feed the otters a little bit. That's a something. But I guess if you're going to write a book, you've got to say something. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Otherwise, just don't write the book. You don't need to ever tell us, but don't write a book. Like we don't need, you don't need to ever tell us, but don't write a book. Exactly, to like help other women who are,

it's about like transitional moments in life, which I think is a really good subject. And I think middle-aged divorce, like as like Gen X and boomers start to get divorced, there's so much content around that right now. So much divorce content. You know what, I was thinking the same thing, especially on reality TV,

between watching Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and The Valley, a lot of young couples getting divorced. Are there like starter marriages? Like they were married for a year, no kids. Yes, kids. That makes it hard. Yeah, they all have kids. So I guess it's a starter marriage because they're gonna go on to probably marry again,

but they all have kids and it's like, they are awful to each other. Co-parenting, that's another big one. Oh yeah. As we're co-parenting. Yeah, but at least that's like a tangible thing that you absolutely have to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're healing on our co-parenting journey. Yeah, but there's no time for a journey because like the kids have to be picked up at three o'clock. So why don't you get that over there? Oh my God, Bethany Frankel says a lot of really interesting stuff about divorce, co-parenting. I'm sure. Because she's really been through the wringer.

Yeah. She was so broken. But then also, like, when you have kids, like, there is a limit to what you're going to say, no matter how awful that... For most people, no matter how awful that person is, like, that's your child's parent. Like, I would hope that there's a line. Well, it's interesting with the ACE family because they got famous exposing the family. Right.

It's like they're... Right. There are some people who have just been like, well, this pays the bills and it is what it is. And they've just sort of signed that away. And like even Jackson-Brittany, like they're not there. There's very little that they hold back because at this point they can't. That's their life. That's their job. It's as if they weren't doing their job.

But some people who are just have other jobs like influencer, like even Kristen Cavallari is a good example. I know she probably been through a lot with her husband, but she doesn't talk that negatively about him. Yeah, I think it's hard. I think you have to kind of decide at the outset, and I love to watch influencers like after they have a kid, like this parent wants to show the face,

this parent doesn't. This parent wants to reveal the name, this parent doesn't. Because the kid can't really consent. Right, did you watch the Paul Brothers show? I did. Did you love it? I loved it. They are great American entertainers.

They talk about that a lot. Yeah. I, what did, you watched it? I loved it. I loved it. But they had that conversation, Nina and Logan, about whether or not they would show their kid's face. And she was feeling more private and he was like, couldn't conceive of taking a photo

and not posting it. But I think they're still in a flux because they were was like, couldn't conceive of taking a photo and not posting it. But I think they're still in a flux because they were basically like, while she's a baby, like it kind of doesn't matter. But- Yeah, because their face changes so much. Yeah, but eventually- But then once they get older, you're like,

well, we already posted her as the baby. Right, but if you get comfortable posting, like at what point is it like, okay, well today she looks too much like she's gonna look. Yeah, you don't know. But I think their thinking was like, eventually when she's not a baby, they won't post so much. But from what I see,

I don't follow them so closely on social media, but they don't really post a lot of, I don't know what they decided, but it's unclear. Well, they're just more like brands at this point. Like when I look at the Paul's feeds, I don't feel like I'm getting an insight into their life so much, as opposed to just what they want me to know.

About Prime and about the boxing. Which is why the show was so great. They held nothing back on the show. Oh my God, and the parents. Yeah, wild. It's so wild. And I think there could be nothing more vulnerable than bringing a television camera crew in with you

to do Ayahuasca. Like, I can't even. I didn't see that part. Oh, yeah, he went to Jake, cause Jake does it and he brought the dad because when he did Ayahuasca, he had all these breakthroughs So he thought that his dad would have the same ones and then they could you know get on the page heal in an earnest way, but

imagine like being on drugs and just like Who knows what's gonna happen next and there's just filming you like that's a serious level of like Comfortability with just being totally open I think like the maybe galaxy brain take is that they only feel comfortable like that. Like galaxy brain. Like they're only feeling like their best self are able to share because like there's a lot of beef

between Jake and Logan. Jake and Logan and I'm like, are they even able to talk about it in private? When are there, are they always just like, no, we need to like parlay this into a bit of content it really kind of gets you thinking that's an interesting point I wonder what they're like when no cameras are rolling but we would never know we would never know rolling there how did they talk about it they're like it's like jackass meets Kardashians or something like yeah I guess that's a good way to put

it and they live they both live in Puerto Rico they both live Puerto Rico, but then like Logan has his family home upstate. That's where they were like nesting. Upstate New York? Yeah. Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's like a cabin, but a big one, you know, but like log, native logs. Cabin.

Joggers, springs on... I mean, the really interesting thing about that brotherhood is that Jake holds that the dad abused them and Logan is like... He wouldn't use that word. He wouldn't use that word. Yeah. And figuring that out on television, I think, is a tall order. In addition to like the Alyssa Violet of it all, the girl.

Well, this is actually funny. This is kind of where we started talking about like, working with siblings in your new media venture. Right. They're so- Your digital media venture with your siblings. They're so Oshre Weiss coded. Yeah, we need a panel.

We need Angie Cohen and we need all the siblings, the Pauls, the Oshres, the Weisses. I was going to say like a good podcast would be like sibling interviews, but that's actually what Kate Hudson and her brother do. Oh, really? They have a podcast called Sibling Revelry and they interview siblings. And Michelle Obama and her brother have a podcast now too. Do they interview siblings? They don't interview siblings.

You need a niche. Yes. You podcast a lot in your daily life. Like, cause you guys have a podcast, Barry has a podcast. Barry has a podcast I'll like host it or I'll like pop in very, very occasionally. You were on a video talking about Haley B.

Well, you were talking about something, she cameer. Well, you were talking about something. She came up. Oh, I was talking about Justin Bieber and the crash out. Yeah, and the crash out. I don't, I really want to do a podcast. No one would watch this, so I'm not going to do it. Do you go on ChatRoulette ever?

No. You remember it? Yes. I go on ChatRoulette all the time still. And I would love to do ChatRoulette the podcast where I just talk to people on ChatRoulette. That's a pretty good idea. Isn't it a fun idea?

Yeah. Because I think everyone who hosts a podcast is always like, it'd be great if we got like regular people. Right. But like, how do you get them? But the problem is you like, you don't know what they're going to say. It might not be that interesting. Right.

So you might have a lot of stuff that ends up on the cutting room floor. Right. That's true. I think it would just be like a lot. It would have to be like kind of produced. Yeah. But in a fine way. That's fine. So if you if I ever have a podcast, that will be it. But for now, this is like this is like the biggest most glam podcast I've ever done.

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And I'm writing about the David Protein Bar, one of your sponsors. Huge amount of protein in that. Yeah. But I don't get the protein, like, I feel like once you start poking around internally, and like, how many people do I know who are like, I stopped eating gluten, I feel so different. It's like, I don't want that to who are like, I stopped eating gluten, I feel so different.

It's like, I don't want that to happen to me. Then I won't- You don't want to feel so different. Well then, I can't eat gluten forever. Oh, that's true. Like you don't want to- I'm just going to get comfortable with whatever this is. And if I never find out that it's bad, then we're good.

I feel like for at least like the people that I know who have stopped eating gluten, like it's because they were feeling wrong before, you know, and they were feeling like there was something was wrong. So then they had to find the source of it. But if you don't feel that way, then you're gluten-tolerant. Are you gluten intolerant?

No. No. Oh, yeah, sourdough queen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I eat everything. Would you consider yourself a girl boss? I guess, like, you know, dictionary definition, I am a girl boss, but I don't identify as one, you know? Totally.

Like, I don't want to be a part of the zeitgeist, but yes, I'm a classic case of a girl boss. Yeah, yeah. It's advanced. It's chronic. It's, yeah, it is. But now it's just, it stands for something that I don't want to be a part of. It's just like cringiness. Yeah, I completely agree.

Emily Sundberg, the writer, who does this amazing culture column called Feed Me, writes about, like, we're kind of in of in like Girlboss 2.0 era, where you have like, I forget her name, she's like a podcast, like an entrepreneur who has a podcast. It's a lot of like panels, sitting on panels and you're like sort of like business suit. Emma Greed? Yes. Crushed it.

Crushed it. What did she say about her? That she's just like the new incarnation. It's like, we're kind of done with like the- But I just wanna say, if she's the new incarnation of Girlboss, like I'm here for that. I like everything that she says and I like what she does.

And I don't find it cringe. And she's the real deal. She's also on Shark Tank. No way. Yeah, she was a guest shark. And she like co-owns all those Kardashian brands. And then she's also like a mom of four. And she's really doing it.

She's a genius. And she like, when she does some of those panels, I see some of those clips go viral. Like she's do doing it. She's a genius. And she like, when she does some of those panels, or I see some of those clips go viral, like she's doling out hard truths. Like things that people like, don't want to hear. Like you can't have it all. You like, can and you can't. Like something is going to suffer.

It's not just like, lean in. Lean in. What if you just leaned in? Trying to lean out. Trying to lean all the way out. Totally. I'm too far deep now. I'm too, I've leaned in and I can't get up. Yeah.

I'm trying to lean all the way out. Totally, I'm too far deep now. I'm too, I've leaned in and I can't get up. Yeah. It's so true. Oh my God. Are you seeing anyone? Single. Single, ready to mingle?

I was at my best friend's wedding this weekend and I was with my other best friend and we kept going around. We thought it was funny, this is probably why we're single because we thought this was funny going, we're just married to our career. We just love our, we love our independent time. You know, I don't want someone else in the house with me. You know, just my, my career is really taken off and it's like, shut up. Who cares?

Um, but yeah. Cute. Looking for the one. Okay. Well, we're gonna keep your eyes peeled. We're gonna manifest. Yeah, let's manifest. My friend, my friend called me the other day, she was... I will keep my eyes peeled. You said you're 28 or 26? 29. Oh, so you said neither. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So perfect. Let's go with 26. Crush it.

Um, but yeah. If you know anyone. I will. Think about it. Yeah, I only have a few requirements. Funny, Jewish, kind, really tall if he stands on his wallet. But we're also short, so it likely tall if he stands on his wallet. I'm kidding. But we're also short, so it definitely opens up more candidates. Do you go on the apps?

I'm not an app girly. I think you've got to get on the apps. I've done the app. It's not like an I'm too good for it type situation. No, I know some people it's just like, it's not ideal. And it's like, that's not my stuff. I've gone on 10,000 app dates. They just don't work for, it's just, it's never that.

All the people I've dated, it's dinner parties, parties. I feel like you would have a big network. I do have a big network. I'm a shotgun. I set people up. Oh, you do? Yeah. Oh, we'll have to chat offline.

Yeah, well, yeah. But the one that you set up, like, would have worked for you? No, you don't want to set up someone who you want for yourself. Well, of course, but you'd never, no one like ever came across your desk. You're like, I'll take this one. Don't worry about it.

Just file away. I'm going to make sure he's not poisonous. Yeah, that never happened. No, it's not happened yet. Okay. How many people have you set up? Um, one that like, toy, toy, toy, like two that I'm confident in. What?

So the one is like new? Yes. Yeah. No, no marriages yet. Okay. But you know if you get three shit-offs, right to heaven. Straight to heaven. So Suzy, like... I think it's also just really good juju and karma

to set people up. And I think there's like also like setting people up in a certain way, which is just like, let them do it. Like, oh, do you want to meet this person? Do you want to meet that person? Here's the number, hands off. Agreed. Don't try and do a dinner where you're going to bring everyone together. Like, oh, do you want to meet this person? Do you want to meet that person? Here's the number, hands off. Agreed.

Don't try and do a dinner where you're going to bring everyone together. No, no, no. Here's the number of someone who is single, eligible, anything you would like. Yeah, and if you don't want to reach out, not my problem. You know what I mean? You just have to have a light.

Have you ever set anyone up? Definitely, though I can't think of anyone. I would love to have set people up. I don't know why I thought I did. Yeah, I've definitely set up. I'm always like, I have an ear out, you know? But I just don't know why I thought I did. Yeah, I've definitely said, I'm always like, I have an ear out, you know? But I just don't know that many guys is my problem. My whole life is girls.

Yeah, it's true. So that's why I can't like really be super helpful to any. Where are those guys hiding? I don't know, but also I'm just like not a girl who ever had like guy friends. I don't have brothers. You're a girl's girl. I'm such a girl's girl to a fault.

I know. It's so much more fun though. Yeah. Oh, I'm a like your girls girl. I'm such a girls girl to a fault. I know it's so much more fun though Yeah, oh, I'm a happy girls girl. Yes, it's very joyful But I guess yeah I don't have like connects and I don't have like great single guy friends and I went to a college that wasn't like super Jewish So like I don't have yeah, that's where I would have had even like so I just don't have that many I know I think of you guys is very like your Shiva League. We are so you Shiva League Which is I'm so jealous of the issue. I went on a guys as very like Yeshiva League. We are so Yeshiva League. Which is, I'm so jealous of the Yeshiva League. I went on a gap year and like, the Yeshiva League girls,

I was like, they are so mean. They are so like, cutting. And I love that. Where'd you go on a gap year? To Israel. And did you go to Yeshiva High School? No, no. Secular?

Secular. Public school. I went to Taylor Alderdice High School. Mac Miller went there, Wiz Khalifa went there. Oh, cute. It's like a culturally resonant high school. Got it. I could see that. I went to Taylor Alderdice High School. Mac Miller went there, Wiz Khalifa went there. Oh, cute. It's like a culturally resonant high school. Got it. I could see that.

Where'd you guys grow up? In the city. What'd you do in Israel? What sort of program? It was just like a study. It wasn't really religious, but- I figured, but just like a study abroad. It was study abroad, it was travel.

I was like watching Donnie Darko on an iPod Touch in the back of a coach bus while people were looking at the Taj Mahal. Like I was really like, it was, Darko on an iPod Touch in the back of a coach bus while people were looking at the Taj Mahal. Like I was really like, it was, I'm not really a travel girl. Me neither. I don't care about it. Yeah, no, it's like I can say-

People are disgusted when they hear that. Yeah, I don't like say it so often, but like if you know me, like I don't travel a lot, I don't have the travel itch, I really don't. I'll also say like this, this is my The Louvre. You know what I mean? I don't need to see the Louvre. Like right here, talking to someone,

having my iced coffee, swirling the ice around in Midtown. What more do you need out of life? It's like, what am I gonna see out there that's gonna be better than exploring the depths of a new person? Yeah, what was your major in college? I studied business and art history. Oh, interesting.

That's a good duo. Yeah, it was a good duo. Yeah, it was a good duo. And then I went into writing and girl bossing. And that gives you actually like a lot to, a lot of good foundation for like subjects, business and art history. Art, yeah, looking around.

Art is a good thing to know. Art is a good, I think it's people are so like, it's so hard to know what you're looking at and it's so easy to get embarrassed and not like feel like you have a valid opinion because you don't know everything about something and it's such a like cloistered world, but that really could be a, could disrupt that.

We could disrupt that. Art history needs a new media disruption. Oh. Gotta find some siblings. I think so. Well, are you ready for our next story? Oh yes. Speaking of weddings, word has emerged, some word on the street about what transpired between Victoria Beckham

and Brooklyn and Nicola at the Nicola-Brooklyn wedding. This is what sources are saying, that Victoria Beckham stole the spotlight at Brooklyn and Nicola's 2022 wedding. A source close to the Peltz family, so this would be Team Nicola, claimed that Victoria stole the happy couple's special dance during the reception. So Grammy award winner Mark Anthony took the stage to perform at the wedding.

And the story goes that he was supposed to sing a song that would be Brooklyn and Nicola's first dance. Before the song began, Mark Anthony asked Brooklyn to come to the stage and then said, the most beautiful woman in the room tonight come on up, Victoria Beckham. Which is not what a bride wants to hear. So the move allegedly left

Nicola feeling that Victoria ruined her wedding and she couldn't understand why. A second source who witnessed the moment said, everyone then watched Nicola run from the room crying. During the wedding. During the wedding. Nicola felt like Victoria did this on purpose when she knew it was a pre-planned romantic dance meant for Brooklyn and Nicola.

What she couldn't understand was why she would do it. So it was such a jaw-dropping moment, the source said, that it left the whole room in absolute shock. You could hear a pin drop. It wasn't appropriate, they said. So honestly, I know this is just sources and stuff, but like, I believe it. It's just specific. I, because also after the wedding, like no one wanted to be near each other. There's two sources who are saying this is what happened. And I feel like a weird thing like this is exactly what could derail an otherwise perfect wedding. But it wasn't a perfect wedding

because weren't all the vendors stealing from them? Oh, the party planners, they were having issues with that. And also the other beef from the wedding is Brooklyn Nicola didn't wear a Victoria Beckham dress. I think that sort of just like didn't work out and it just wound up looking bad for both of them. Like, why wouldn't you wear? Even though it's not like when I think bridal,

I think the bride has to wear a Victoria Beckham. It's not like she married your wife. You're married to your wife, son. Yeah, exactly. So that wasn't, it didn't seem so smelly to me, but I could see something like this happening and maybe Victoria. I don't think Victoria said to Marc Anthony, say this.

I think Marc Anthony made a bad joke. I think so too, but I think Mark Anthony made a bad joke. I think so too. But I think maybe in light of all the other dynamics that were happening that weekend, and I'm sure Nicola might have felt some sort of way, like Victoria is this larger than life person and like when you're in a room with her, like it's she's kind of the number one girl in this room. Nicola can hold her own.

She can, but like it's your wedding and to feel that way and emotions are already heightened. I could see it. I just could see it. It seems feasible. It seems like something that's so innocuous that like no one went out of their way to do anything wrong, but it could totally derail the party. Yeah, it's like you're just, you're like, like on a knife's edge, just ready to fucking go berserk. I feel like at your wedding.

And it's just one word from Mark Anthony, one wrong word. Oh, and she says plenty she could say back to him. Yeah. But this is all on the heels of the fact that Brooklyn and Nicola were not to be seen at David Beckham's 50th birthday party. Yes. In London. Feud has picked back up.

So after the wedding, they were like totally separate. They weren't speaking to each other and it was like bad. And then they all came back together and they were all supporting each other, family events, she's in the documentary, like everything was good. And then they didn't go to the birthday party and now they were all supporting each other, family events, she's in the documentary, like everything was good. And then they didn't go to the birthday party and now they're not seeing together again unless like things have happened. So also team Brooklyn, Nicola have said that like the Beckhams are like narcissists, another buzzword. And you know, it's just like hard to be around them. And I guess if you think that way about someone, then something

like this would really upset you. Yeah, that would really upset me. But it's like, it would be so easy for Nicola and Brooklyn to come out on top by being the bigger person and just like, of course going to the wedding, of course, or the birthday party. They can in private say whatever they want and be like, that was horrible.

I'm so annoyed. I hate them. But they get to look like, not like Brad and kids, essentially. And like, it's so much better for them when they're with the family, and like, there's just, like, it's all good, as opposed to them being like, this wayward couple that's like,

out of touch with their family. We had reported a few weeks ago, the Sun reported, I don't know if it was true, that Brooklyn and Nicola were having dinner with Harry and Meghan. No way, I mean, similar storylines there. Yeah, but like, I just, I wouldn't follow that template if I were them. I'd run the other.

I'd say, what did they do? Let's do the opposite. And Nicola's like, should I start a jam business? Or what is it called? American Riviera Orchard. Is that the current name? Yeah. No, it's changed.

It's changed a bunch of times, but. With love. With love from Meghan? With love. As ever. No, it's changed. It's changed a bunch of times, but. With love. With love from Megan? With love. As ever. As ever, thank you. As ever. Yeah, the thing with Brooklyn and Nicola is, it's like when two dynastic families merge,

and I think both of their families sort of have this idea of like, we're the primary family. We're the number one family in this group. And that's where issues happen. And I think if it were another girl who didn't come from Nicola's background and something at the wedding happened like this, I'm like, I'm the number one family in this group. And that's where issues happen. And I think if it were another girl who was, who didn't come from Nicola's background and something at the wedding happened like this,

where it's like, again, about the Beckhams, like she would maybe just be used to it and be like, that's just, you know, the family I'm marrying into, they're just gonna constantly make everything about them. And like, I'll- Because I'm Cinderella, I'm from like nothing. I'll just be like small here, and it's Victoria's moment.

It's her friend. I could never have Marc Anthony at my wedding. She's like, I could have Marc Anthony. Right. Name your price. Right. Yeah. Like I would have just paid you to sing the fucking song I wanted to sing. I didn't need your favor. Right. Exactly. But it's like money can't buy you class. Yeah. As we learned from Countess Louanne. Yeah. I feel bad. I hope they find a way through. I know. But it's just not good when it gets to this point. No. Like when I'm talking about it. Yeah. But but it's just not good when it gets to this point. No. Like when I'm talking about it.

Yeah, but also it's like Brooklyn never really had an identity outside of being a Beckham. Like he tried the photography, he tried the chef, chefing. I hear he's trying to be a F1 racer, but he keeps failing his driver's license test. I read that somewhere. His license to drive? Or maybe to drive one of these like big fancy cars. I can drive even, barely. I can do it.

Oh my God. Yeah, our fifth and final story is a little update from yesterday. like big fancy cars. I can drive even barely. But I can do it. Oh my god. Yeah, our fifth and final story is a little update from yesterday. The Chrisleys have been released from prison. And Julie Chrisley has been spotted for the first time since her prison release.

So Joey Camasto was on the toast yesterday pondering the status of Julie's hair. He's fabulous. He is so great. So fun. And I really hadn't given it much thought prior to her, even afterwards, where he said, like, how is she keeping up with the blonde? And I'm like, I don't know. She probably, even

if she went back to her roots, like it wouldn't, it wouldn't be a big deal. And then a photo emerged of her leaving the facility and it's kind of a big deal. She looks so different, but happy. I mean, that's a recession indicator. Her hair is the least of her problems at the moment. It's six hours in the chair and she'll be right as rain. I think what we're looking at someone, her hair looks sort of like brown almost auburn and then the gray has grown in significantly. Yeah. And it's almost like halfway down, like

an ombre from hell. Yeah. So it's like, if she went in there full blonde and then she went in full blonde. I'm guessing oh well if she went in there full blonde Then it started to grow out brown and then it started to come in gray She weirdly looks like fresher. Did there's something about the it's the look of freedom. Yes. She's free Yeah, she literally even though I'm sure everyone's clowning on her hair like she does not give a fuck. This is a happy woman Yes, oh my god if to get out of the slammer I wouldn't care what my hair looked like. Seven years, and then in one day, you're home. Yeah, it's like, don't worry about the hair, guys.

I'm going- That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't be surprised if she never dies. Everything's changed now. I mean, talk about a journey. She's really been on a journey. She has. And I hope she doesn't go back to blonde. I think it's time that Chrisley's in a full rebrand.

That's true, even if she went to brown. But they're such a blonde, like, I don't watch Chrisley's stuff, so, like, I'm not so deep in it. I watched it. It was an early spinoff. Chrisley Knows Best was on Bravo, right? Yeah. And they're really funny family. They're almost like, they're like Southern bumpkin

Pauls a little bit. Like, they'll just do anything. Yeah, and then, and people, like, they've been on TV forever. And Joey had also said that they are like filming right now. So I guess like the status of her hair and how she feels about it would be on whatever show they're... I hope that's not a major plot point.

I think it might be given the public's reaction to this photo. That's her literally leaving the jail, do we think? No, I think no. There's a cereal and milk store right behind her. I think it's like at some point and... She just went to get cereal and milk. Walking to some car after she was released from prison, but I think they've been like trying to get a picture of her since she got out.

I'm happy she's free. I don't think the public was made safer by Chrisley being locked away. I don't think she was like a public safety hazard. And you don't feel unsafe. Yeah, I'm not like lock getting a deadbolt because the Chrisleys are out, you know what I mean? It was insider training, right? It was tax evasion, bank fraud and tax evasion. Not a good look, but who among us?

It's a classic case of reality. Not me. Don't look at me. I would never. I would seriously never. Oh my God, that would be such a, like a reality show with all of the Bravo liberties currently incarcerated. Or a reality show of former incarcerated reality stars who have to sit down and do their taxes. And get fit. Right.

Well, they're already fit because they're already in jail. Yeah, but like watching them fill out a 1099. Yeah. Or maybe it could be educational. Like here is how you do it. Cause I think sometimes it's malicious. And sometimes I think they just don't know what to do with all this money.

And they don't know the laws and what you're supposed to do. When you start like getting all these brand deals and like, nobody teaches you that. Well, that's obviously different too from Jen Shaw and what she's been accused of. Well, yeah. Or what she did. Yes, because that's not like some paperwork missing. Yeah, yeah.

That was nefarious. Oh yeah, you think that Chrisley should be doing like financial literacy education. I think a lot of people should be doing financial literacy education. And I say this like earnestly, like outside of reality stars, even though I think they

have it worse because it's just overnight success and overnight money. And everyone's asking you for things. If you go from having a job where you get a paycheck and they take your money out for taxes and you never have to think about it, to then like getting this influx of 1099s, W9s. I would have no idea what to do. Right. That'd be my hair.

In 10 years, I'd be walking in a jail with that hair. And I'm not saying that's what happened to them, but that does happen, right? So I just think forever and they're like criminal masterminds over here, right? But also for lay people If the tax system is fucking confusing, it's I literally just do turbo tax and I just click as fast as I can and just get To the end. I just I just got a credit card like last send up a prayer that you don't go to prison Literally. Yeah, i'd rather pay more. Right, of course. I'm like, just take it.

Of course. I'll pay for this to be over. Of course, no, I'd rather pay more. Every time. So crazy. This is why I need a husband. Right. I'm like, I'm like, well, is it worth it?

But you're a business major. It's like, yeah, I get to wear pants. I'm so excited. I get to make my own money. Still have to pay my rent. Still have to figure out how to do these taxes. But you're a business major. They don't teach you that?

No, they don't. What the fuck did they teach you? Who knows? Like econ? Networking. That's a good skill. I don't have that one. No, no, me neither.

You're not a schmoozer. Well, I'm definitely a schmoozer. But like strangers, just like putting yourself out there, going up to people. Do you love a work event? Happy hour drinks? I like performing like with people I'm There's that there's like a lot of hope core Online right now like there's like a girl on tik-tok who just goes up to random people on the street

And it's just like hey, how are you like taking the car out this week? I see like just I think that's a really good muscle to have and I think Anyone should be able to talk to a stranger, but it's not like what charges my battery. Right. Yeah. I'll say that. I agree with that. I agree with that.

Well, now it is time for Queenie and Weenie of the Week and you've come prepared. So let's start with Queenie. I have two Queenies and I'm gonna start with my first obvious one to give a shout out to Claudia because she has had an incredible Queenie-like week. Getting her first new motherhood and just a transformative week for our Claude

and she is exuding Queenie-like behavior. So she is my Queenie always. And it's not fair if we like do each other for Queenie of the week because then we just be Queenie every week. But because she's not here, I feel like I can say she is my Queenie. And then in my, I don't want to say celebrity Queenie

because Claudia is a celebrity. But also, Halle Bieber. Halle wrote Bieber everyone. You counted her out. You thought she was, like, I feel like everyone thought she was just like a, I mean, she was already wealthy. She wasn't a gold digger, but sort of like, just wanting to be famous, had no personality.

And it's like, look who got the last laugh. Yeah, seriously. Even though people are like, you know, she has a million investors and it's 600 million cash and she's got to pay people back, whatever. She probably nets out to a hundred million, 180 million is what they're saying. I think that's a take home. Take home. I think it's more than that. If she sold the business for a billion dollars, like if she had a bunch of investors and there's three co-founders, but she didn't invest anywhere close to like.

And it's $600 million cash, $200 million stock, $200 million bonuses when they achieve certain benchmarks in the future. They're gonna achieve the benchmarks. Yeah. I mean, I saw you were talking about it. It's 10 products. Yeah.

It's unbelievable what she's done. Even if it's 180 million or a hundred million dollars, like that's what she needed. If things were getting like tight with, like that's what she needs to. Even if it's 180 million or a hundred million dollars, like that's what she needed. If things were getting like tight with, like that's what she needs to live her life. And now I think she can sleep easier. Do you think she's gonna leave him? No, I don't.

She's, she's- Do they also think that she loves him? Like shocking. Yeah. Like I think that she loves him and I think she loves her life and her family. And like, and I think she, whatever issues, there's obviously issues.

He's obviously not at his best right now. But like that's what a marriage is, is working through them. I think that's how she sees marriage. I don't know her at all. It's just a vibe again. Yeah, well they're very religious. Yeah.

And so I don't think they would- You don't just leave like, cause the going gets tough and he's being weird at the hockey game. Even though I think it's so much more than that. But I think she's like a standby your man. And if it's the rumors are true, she's been wanting to be with him since she's 13. Like you think she's giving up now?

I don't think so. No, no, she's probably in it for the long haul. And like, once people have a baby, they want another baby. Yeah. She'll want to give Jack a sibling. I love that name. I love that name. I would use that name, but I'm Jackie.

Oh, that's true. Otherwise, I go. But do people call you Jack? No, but I couldn't have a son named Jackie. No, but- That's not the name Jack. Yeah. Yeah, cause then you would just end up calling him Jackie. It's just the same name.

It's the same name. It wouldn't be appropriate. Right. Like having a... You can only have boys now. Well, I'm having another gender reveal. I read it. I put out Patreon. But I haven't said it here. I'm pregnant, by the way. That I know. I figured. Because you're swirly.

But I... Thank you. Only on Patreon have I said the gender. But I'll say it here now Because you're swirly. But special. Thank you. Only on Patreon have I said the gender, but I'll say it here now, exclusive. Boy. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

So, very exciting. That is so exciting. So, girl mom, forget girl boss, you're a girl mom. Boy mom. Boy mom, boy mom, sorry. Right. Yeah. That is, what is it like?

I love it. Growing up with all sisters. It was a complete, I never expected this, And I just kind of assumed I would always have girls cause that's all I know. Like I said, I have no guy friends. Like I don't know other, my husband. You've never had a man. I've never met a guy.

So to have like my first, the first having, for finding out I was having a boy for my first, that was like the most shocking one. And then immediately like I became obsessed. And then when I got pregnant again, I really wanted a boy. Yes. So that they could be close, they're close in age and that they could be brothers.

And I just loved having like a same-sex sibling. And so for this one, this was the first time I did not have a preference. Because if it was another boy, like iconic, I'm obsessed. But if it was a girl, like, so exciting. I finally get like my girl. But I'm so, I'm so thrilled. Wow, you have a lot of kids.

That's so, so exciting. Thank you. I love that. Thank you. I love that. Thank you. They can't be Queenies of the week yet, but do you ever do your kids as Queenies? No, no, it's usually more in the pop culture.

Which is zeitgeist. Like, yeah, what things that we've spoken about on the show. So those are my Queenies. Your Queenie is Hailey as well. My Queenie is Hailey. I think she, yeah, she just really came out on top. Similar to Sydney Sweeney, I think she's just really good at being a celebrity. And she's really good at giving the people what they want.

She, like, kind of engages in the drama and, like, a little bit. She did that Vogue video where she... So funny. ...pood a nepo was the perfume. And the tincture from the witch. And she was reading, like, Proust. Oh, the tincture from the witch? She pulled out a tincture and she was like,

I take this every day. My dad, like, took me to see a witch in the mountains when I was 12 years old. And she said if I took it every day, I would make a Canadian pop star fall in love with me. Thanks, dad. I didn't see that part. That's really, really funny.

Yes. I love the way she's engaging with it. And her Vogue cover was already Queenie behavior, even though Justin tried to take a big... That was so insane. That was so insane. I was going to nominate him as my Weenie of the Week. Oh. For that. OK. For Justin's my Weenie of the Week. Oh!

For that. Okay. For Justin's Your Weenie of the Week. Yeah. And so I think they balance each other out. The Haley and the Justin. Yeah. Sometimes your Queenie and Weenie, it's same story, married to each other.

Yeah. So it's net neutral. The family's okay. That's just like really a theme that's coming up of like these successful women and these men who are sort of like not Really flailing. Yeah, I would argue a little bit. That's what's happening with Beckham's Which one with Nikola and Brooklyn? Yeah, but it's not like she's any more It's not like she just like achieved success. That's true. But honestly in three years We're gonna be talking about how elf bought her cosmetic company for a billion dollars.

Nicholas. Yes. Yeah, I'd try what she's doing. She has not unlocked her... Full potential. Full potential. I agree. That is... Okay, so I don't know how this works. This is my first time here. Do we discuss more about the weenie?

Who's your weenie? Now I kind of want to say Mark Anthony. Oh, I love that. That is so lame to do at someone's wedding, even if someone told you it was funny. It's like, there's just minefields, I think a lot in a wedding and like the groom speeches and like people think things are funny that they're not or like you see those videos of husbands smashing cake into women's face after they've gotten like a full beat. And it's like, don't do that.

Yeah. Like it's not about you. And like, you don't want to cause a bride's like, don't do that. Yeah. Like it's not about you and like, you don't wanna cause a bride to run out of the room crying. Yeah. So I think he's my weenie of the week. That's such a good one. And I agree, like I can, sometimes people could be like, something comes off wrong or they didn't mean it.

But to say the most beautiful woman in the room and it's not the bride, like, are you dumb? Yeah. Are you dumb? Maybe he is. Maybe he is. Maybe he is. Maybe he's a weenie. That is a true, that's true.

Weenie behavior. I love that. I love that. From 20, three years late, but it's never too late. It's never too late to be the weenie of the week. No one's safe. No one. No.

We're going to dig it up. So thank you so much, Susie. It's been a pleasure getting to know you and co-hosting with you. And I appreciate it so much. Where can everyone follow? I know you're like not on Instagram, but where can people follow you and keep up with your work? This is so fun. On X, I'm at snoozyweiss.

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It's a circle. No, but not- It's not a circle. It's not, but it's like perfectly like third, third, third. Yes, yes. That's what I think. And I think there's a little bit for everyone, I think in both of our media properties. I think so too. I think this is the crossover of the century for three free thinkers everywhere.

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