The Toast - The Guy On The Chiefs: Monday, November 13th, 2023

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials! Weppy Monday, where we have such a fucking disgustingly important job to do today. Which is what? Karma is the guy on the Chiefs coming straight home to me. It's true, we do. That is all forthcoming within the show. That's really all. It's hard to pick stories when there's the one story and then there's the other four check it i feel sick why do you feel sick la turd i feel sick because i am sick i'm coming down with a cold so if i feel nays if i sound nasally or angry that's why give us a little sticky shoes would you you? My sticky, sticky shoes.
Starting point is 00:00:45 You know, it hasn't gotten to that level yet. Like right now, it's sort of coming down. Throughout the night, I was like feeling myself get sicker and sicker. It was really kind of a dreadful evening of sleep. So I'm just kind of on one today. I've had a morning. Ooh, I love when Jackie's on one. You think you're going to punch a CVS checkout machine?
Starting point is 00:01:03 If there was one in sight, pow, pow. It's on. It's on one you think you're gonna punch a CVS checkout machine if there was one in sight pow pow it's on it's on I'm throwing hands I love that yeah no it was rough and then also like I get really bad scalp pain you ever get that like oh I don't wash my hair yeah yeah so my hair was looking gorgeous so I was like you know let me get myself Monday with my hair on the show and then I'll wash it Monday night but in the middle middle of the night, it was just hurting so much. Let's talk about that. What is that? I don't know. And it hurts like even more postpartum.
Starting point is 00:01:32 So when Charlie like woke up at 6.30 to feed, I was like, I have to get up and wash my hair right now because I'm in so much pain. So then my day started at 6.30 with washing my hair. And then I wound up like falling back asleep at like 7.30. It was just, and then I was like woke up late and in a rush and had to pump and it was just not my morning there's so many claim this morning there are so many things about girlhood that like are so unfair like periods I don't feel like we talk about the obvious ones childbirth like why
Starting point is 00:01:58 can't a man do that we don't talk enough about the scalp pain. Like what is that? I don't know. It's like your nerve endings. And I guess my scalp is like extra tender right now. I mean, it was a long time since I washed my hair. Sure. Who cares? But it shouldn't. I should have gotten this extra.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I shouldn't have had to get up at 6 a.m. to wash my hair because that's how much pain I was in. Well, you look great. Thanks. Well, then I was like, didn't have time to dry my hair. So it's in a slick back bun. But you never know. You look great. I love when you Well you look great. Thanks well then I was like didn't have time to dry my hair so it's in a slick back bun but you never know. You look great. I love when you're in a mood. I feel like it's usually me so I will be you know the Jax today and you will be the clird. Well now that I'm in the chair like I'm it's all done and I'm good and we can go forth with the show but just like getting to this chair was harder than usual today you know when mean girls when katie heron is like so mad
Starting point is 00:02:46 and regina says put it in the book yeah put it in the chair yeah but no like now i'm fine right no you know the chair heals all yeah i just had to get to the chair but the getting to the chair i did not fare so we have so much to talk about today when it comes to pop culture. But we also have so much to talk about today when it comes about us, when it comes to us. Because like we are important and we are busy, you know? Yeah. Is this me, you wanting me to ask you like, how are you? What's new with you?
Starting point is 00:03:16 What do you want to talk about? If you wanted to ask about me because I kind of had like a crazy busy weekend. Okay, Claudia, how are you doing? What's new with you? How was your weekend? It was so busy. Oh my God. It was like jam-packed.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Friday night, you were still here. I hosted my very first family Shabbos at my home. It was amazing to have just everyone there except for Olivia. She was dearly missed. But everyone in New York at my home, I feel like it was great. It was great.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Ben cooked a gorgeous meal. The kids were there. Like it was just, it was really, what's the word? Um, it filled my cup. Beautiful. And then I had a super early morning on Saturday because I went to Atlanta for the UGA, not, not Atlanta. I'm sorry. I keep saying that Athens for the UGA Ole Miss game. I was there, um, doing an event with Estee Lauder and I don't do a lot of like events on college campuses. And I don't feel like we're like huge, like with college students. I just feel like they're a little young.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So I was like expecting like, you know, like 12 people to show up and like whatever. Oh my God, Jackie, we have to move to Georgia. Okay. The toast is huge, huge in Georgia. I love that. They, everybody came out. It was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I really, really put into perspective for me like how much I missed out on like a traditional college experience. You know, it like looked so fun. Yeah. Like this small town that when you were driving through was so charming,
Starting point is 00:04:37 like these houses. And I just know that like, you know, professors live there and they have like, you know, dinner parties for their students. Like it was so collegiate. And there was a big football game, which was even more collegiate because everybody was wearing the colors and alumni came in and it was just so cute like it was this whole life that I never had yeah and what what's the anti-semitism like on that college campus I'm so glad you brought
Starting point is 00:05:00 it up because obviously it was top of mind for me I was like what are what is everybody doing here to battle anti-Semitism? And I didn't really think that there would be like a lot of Jewish students, but I think maybe all of them came to the meet and greet because they were like, it's been amazing. The president of the school, the dean or whatever, like immediately put out a statement being like, shut that shit down. We're not going to be one of those schools. So they really haven't had, you know, knock wood, many incidents, you know, no hate crimes and, you know, no sw incidents you know no hate crimes and
Starting point is 00:05:25 you know no swastikas drawn on the side of a building so I felt good you know supporting a school like that and they all were like it's been you know really comforting here and the toast has been buoying me so it was really honestly fabulous like I have no complaints that's so nice so it was University of Georgia yes UGA okay so like add it to the- Go Dawgs. Oh yeah, no, that I know. So add it to the list of safe schools for Jews. And so it's a very short list, but it's an important one. Yeah, so UGA, Turdy approved. It was just fabulous.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And there were so many, there were just like nice girls. Like I just loved it. And then I had to rush home because yesterday I went out to Livingston, New Jersey to see my favorite human being on earth, Mark Schoenwetter, the Holocaust survivor I met last year. So this time of year, they do this thing called Journey for the Living, where in the month of November, everybody tries to walk 15 miles. Because on one very cold November night in Poland, many, many years ago, Mark, his sister and his mom walked 15 miles in the middle of the night to get to a ghetto because they thought the ghetto was going to be like their only option for safety.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It wasn't, but it was a part of his journey in this long, very cold night. And so we walked yesterday in New Jersey. We didn't walk 15 miles because, you know, it was cold and whatever. She is who she is. We walked a mile and a half. You know, we started our journey to 15 miles are you gonna complete the 15 miles i'm gonna try i'm gonna try cool so it was just fabulous to hang out with mark and i got to have lunch with him afterwards and it was just it was a
Starting point is 00:06:55 fabulous day so that's why i didn't even go to the game in georgia i literally flew in the morning and then out at five o'clock so i could get back to Jersey. So it's kind of like such a busy weekend, you know? Yes, it was a busy weekend. I came home. I had like a nice homesteading day yesterday, cooking up a store, made a chili. So good. So good.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I've really, really perfected my personal brand of chili. It's a chili day. It was a chili day. We had the game on, the games, you know, there was Frankfurt happening. I watched the games as well. And the Cowboys played. I know, the Jets played and lost. Did the Cowboys win?
Starting point is 00:07:36 I don't know. I didn't watch, but I did watch the Jets go another game, Jackie, without scoring a single touchdown. Whoa, zero? Did they get a kick in? So the last couple of games, they've scored like X amount of points, and every single one of them has been a field goal. Got it.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Okay, so it wasn't zero on the scoreboard. And this season, this is what they said on TV last night, 50% of the points scored for the Jets have been field goals. Well, you know what? Let's look on the bright side. Their kicker must be feeling really good about himself. Aaron Rodgers did say his goal is to come back by mid-December. And he says, I know that's crazy, but when you have a great surgeon and a great patient, anything is possible. I love that optimism. And it actually is a great segue for me to talk about the fact
Starting point is 00:08:21 I had a great surgeon and I was a great patient when I was pregnant and Dr. Fox I'm on his podcast again today and this episode is all about my pregnancy so the last one was all about me our girl introducing myself life story and this one is all about my birth story and my pregnancy story so his podcast is called the healthful woman still we are all kind of like helping Dr. Fox in a potential rebrand but i like the name and you can because i like it and he didn't go for what does the fox say he wasn't about that okay well he's wrong for that so you can listen to me today on the healthful woman it's all about my story and also like you know we get the the expert's opinion about what was going on and it was crazy it was crazy to relive it I've literally forgotten about it it feels like so long ago I feel like that's natural right like you black out traumatic times like once they're over
Starting point is 00:09:17 natural for people are natural for me people well everybody handles hard times differently. You know, hard times are more personal than comedy, more personal than food. More personal than insurance. So true. But yet also just like I feel like in pregnancy in general, you kind of forget how hard it is. It's like your body's way of getting you ready for the next one. So true. Are you ready for the next one? I am not.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I am on hiatus. Yeah, yeah. I'm not ready for the next one either like Theo's just kind of keeping me very very busy yeah yeah we're on hiatus we're taking a break yeah um so so much went on this weekend like obviously in our personal lives but also in the world as well um I feel like it's going to be one of those things where it's like do you remember where you were when you saw the kiss and the chiefs? Like, I remember where I was. I was watching Gossip Girl, which I've made a lot of headway in. I'm now with the Georgina episodes and like, I want to turn it off. Like when Vanessa came in, I was like, oh my God, I forgot about this annoying wench. Like she kind of made me want to like stop, but not enough. Honestly, I feel like I disliked her more
Starting point is 00:10:21 as a child. Like she's definitely weird and inappropriate with a man, with a boy who has a girlfriend. But like she's not a bad person. She's actually like kind of a moral compass, if you will. I don't know if that changes, but she's a good person. She is a bit of a moral compass of the show, but she makes like being a moral compass like so dreadful. Yeah. But with Georgina, oh my, Ben, like we can't watch it.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And then it really got us talking about the trajectory of Michelle Trachtenberg's career and how criminally underrated and underbooked Michelle Trachtenberg is. She is an incredible actress. Like the way she's so fucking evil, like where you feel it in your bones. You're like this fucking bitch. Like she's such a, what happened to her? Right. But she also is the ice princess
Starting point is 00:11:05 and get you a girl who could do both sweet as sugar sweet as sugar in the ice princess which is also harriet the spy of course so diverse she's just has a really diverse portfolio and i feel as though she's super super talented where in the world is Michelle Trachtenberg let's check her IMDB maybe she's you know been doing indie movies but the thing is like she is a world-class talent like she needs to be booking she should be an Oppenheimer like that's how talented she is yeah I I do agree with that honestly she really hasn't worked in a while don't forget about 17 again really good movie oh my god I forgot she was in 17 again and Eurotrip yeah Ben was like I know her from Eurotrip and I was like I know her from
Starting point is 00:11:58 Ice Princess but what I also know her from that not enough people talk about is there was like a brief period in high school where I was obsessed with the Knicks because like I just wanted like attention and I like got really into it I went to a lot of games I knew all the players and there was a player on the Knicks called Danilo Gallinari and he was probably the most handsome man to ever walk the earth he was earth he was Italian he was just not like other players you know he was so handsome and he was like really good and he became this New York like socialite almost because he other players you know he was so handsome and he was like really good and he became this New York like socialite almost because he wasn't you know world renowned but in New York we loved him and he very briefly dated Michelle Trachtenberg and it was this iconic moment in pop
Starting point is 00:12:36 culture they broke up he got traded I did actually meet him like two years ago at the Faina Hotel in Miami like I don't think anybody knew who he was and I was dying we have a picture together I was dying from meeting Danilo Gallinari like I was obsessed with this man um and I don't know if people talk about the very brief you know kind of shooting star moment where he dated Michelle Trachtenberg Georgina yes also definitely Michelle Trachtenberg has been blackballed from Hollywood yeah because she was getting major roles and then all of a sudden she's in Robot Chicken and Sister Cities she has been blackballed from Hollywood. Yeah. Because she was getting major roles and then all of a sudden she's in Robot Chicken and Sister Cities. She has been blackballed.
Starting point is 00:13:09 What is the story? I need a documentary on Michelle Trachtenberg. Yeah. Also, allegedly she was in The New Gossip Girl as Georgina Sparks. Well, last night I was also thinking about The New Gossip Girl. And the reason why it didn't work
Starting point is 00:13:23 is because it never could have worked. The show itself, like nobody knew when the show was airing or even when they were casting the show that it was going to be this cultural phenomenon. They didn't know that. It just happened to be, it was just a well-written, well-cast, high, like high budget show. And it had all the makings and they didn't know it and then with the second show like they were trying to recreate that and you can't recreate something like that with that intention those things like Gossip Girl becoming what it was happened unintentionally. Yeah also just like nobody who is it for nobody wants it it was bad they couldn't have had more
Starting point is 00:14:01 manpower behind it and they couldn't have it for that couldn't have had more manpower behind it. And they couldn't have flopped harder. By the way, but also watching the show now, I'm just keeping top of mind who Gossip Girl is. And like, so far, like, it's kind of possible. Like the episodes I watched last night, spoiler alert, was that Jenny was dating that guy Asher, but it turned out he was gay and he really was like hooking up with Eric.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah. But he was like this billionaire. They're like, how did Jenny get him? And Dan finds it, finds out that Asher is gay and he wants to tell Jenny, but Blair and Serena are like, Jenny's not going to listen to you. She's only going to listen to like girls and Gossip Girl. So he tells Gossip Girl that Eric, not that Eric, that Asher is gay. And of course he told Gossip Girl because he is Gossip Girl. Yes, but that could also work with a different Gossip Girl. It could be explained. I heard a rumor that Gossip Girl was supposed to be Nate. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And then it got leaked. Oh, I saw that too. And they switched it. So watch it also from that POV. Yeah. Okay. But it's just like insane these people are just like talking about cocaine and then taking the sats like it's just not real no it's not real also don't forget that gossip girl was a book series that was incredibly popular so when you say like nobody knew it was going to be successful like we all knew the books were amazing blake
Starting point is 00:15:22 lively was like you know coming off of sisterhood of the Traveling Pants like it was on the CW like uh I think everybody like knew you know that's a that's a job like if you book that like it was a perfect storm it was a perfect storm yeah but that's like if you know Twilight becoming a movie yeah right nobody knew right we knew yeah that's true no it had all the makings of a cultural phenomenon yeah because it had an existing fan base but a lot of things by true. No, it had all the makings of a cultural phenomenon. Yeah, because it had an existing fan base. But a lot of things, by the way, some things do have all the makings of a cultural phenomenon and then they don't. Yeah, like Vampire Academy, the movie.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Right. Because I think that book was popular. The movie was amazing. Yeah. But it just didn't pop off. They actually made Vampire Academy on Peacock a series based on the book. They were like trying again. I don't think it happened again like i said but i don't think it needed to because the
Starting point is 00:16:11 movie was perfect right they didn't do anything wrong in that it was just like kind of society not knowing what's good which happens all the time i feel um as though like sitting here and not talking about karma is the guy on the chiefs. Like, I don't know what we're doing, you know? And like, I love to dilly dally.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I want you to know that you took us on this tangent gossip girl. And then Michelle Trachtenberg rabbit hole. I'm following your lead. I did. I did. No, no, by the way,
Starting point is 00:16:37 I did full, full, full responsibility, but I have to draw the line somewhere, you know? And I think the line, this is me. Look,
Starting point is 00:16:44 I've drawn it. Oh, right. Because now I'm talking about my passions is me. Look, I've drawn it. Oh, right. Because now I'm talking about my passions. Yeah. When she started talking about that. No, see, see, I want you guys all to see what just happened. I let her wax poetic on her thoughts on Gossip Girl. I tried to talk about one movie I liked.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It's time. No, by the way, it's so true. But it is time. Like facts are facts, you know? It was time when you started talking about nonsense from 10 years ago. It was time then, too. No, no. It wasn't time because, honestly, and I'm not being, like, a drama queen when I say,
Starting point is 00:17:11 like, people are begging me for my Gossip Girl takes. I swear to God. So why didn't you post them on your story? I did. I did. But, you know, like, something as big and as important as Gossip Girl, like requires verbal explanation, you know? Yeah, so get on stories and start talking. I need to reach everyone here.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Okay, well, I just want you to know what you did there. Yeah, no, by the way, like you think I don't know? Like I know, I'm disgusting. Okay, great, accountability equals taken. I will accept that. Great. Without further ado-do-do-do about turdies' passions and not mine, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.
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Starting point is 00:22:46 She performed one night. Very exciting, you know. She performed two nights. Yeah, first night though. Yeah, was the big one. Was the big one the first one or the second one? The second one. But there was another one last night.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Maybe there's three. Maybe it was the second one. Okay. One was postponed for weather. Right. The one that was postponed was the one that he was at. Well, he got there and yeah, then it was postponed. So they got the night off together.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah. And then he went to the show the next night where a lot of things ensued. First, he was in the tent with Taylor's dad, dancing along, taking pictures and videos of each other. Next, Taylor changed the lyric in Karma from Karma is the guy on the screen coming straight home to me to karma is the guy on the chiefs coming straight home to me then she also sang end game as one of her surprise songs so that's a pretty obvious easter egg and then when the show was over footage was captured of them backstage Travis waiting respectfully with his hands behind his back Taylor coming off the stage running towards him giving him a big kiss and then walking off
Starting point is 00:23:48 arm in arm it's too much like I don't even know where to begin let's begin with this with the secret songs because I just have really quick thoughts something I've noticed about Taylor recently is like she's really like listening to the Swifties so a lot of people were like oh my god she has to play Endgame like they theor theorize that. And then she actually did it. It's possible she came to the conclusion on her own, but like with this, with the next song she did, um, the new vault song, is it over now? But she mashed it up with out of the woods. And literally a girl went viral last week for being like, is anybody else hearing this? And she saying the mashup that Taylor ended up singing singing so I feel like she's like leaning in more to like Swifty culture which I actually just really appreciate because the Swifties you know they're a little passionate a little too passionate
Starting point is 00:24:32 sometimes but they've got good ideas yeah and I love that yeah so two very good songs and Endgame is obviously like hopefully you know he's her end game but also because it's very athletic themed it's athletic coded so we love that then let's talk about Scott Taylor's dad being literally obsessed with Travis Kelsey like I've seen him in the tent I think he was in the tent with Joe at points maybe even Maddie Healy like you wouldn't even know that they know each other like so distant so cold he is like fan like honestly I think he's more in love with Travis than Taylor is like he was wearing a chief's lanyard around his neck like he's obsessed he was they were together the whole night just them two wouldn't you it's a long show it's three hours he's a dream son-in-law dream son-in-law we know Scott loves the NFL I mean he
Starting point is 00:25:20 is I believe an Eagles fan but it doesn't matter like he respects the hustle it doesn't matter also because it's like the Eagles his brother oh that's true he could be like being nice to Travis to get close to Jason that's very true like maybe trying to get Jason's number from Travis's phone while he's taking the video it's like oh I'll take this picture of you meanwhile I'm going through your phone he's using Travis he's social climbing to get to Jason I mean you respect the hustle respect the hustle like the the glee and like honestly just such a shout out to the Argentinian Swifties like they were on the ground doing the work like yeah we were getting content the minute it was happening and I have to say notice something I've noticed that just is the sweetest thing ever when I noticed it with Argentina but then I also noticed it um I saw a screening from the Eros tour in Israel is like places where English isn't the first language but Taylor
Starting point is 00:26:08 Swift is like so beloved when you hear the fans singing back the song they they have an accent and it is just so cute like yeah it's the cutest thing ever and it really just I think is uh an indicator of how massive Taylor Swift. Because these are people who don't even speak English as their first language. And they know every single lyric. And it's just, it's really amazing. Yeah, even when they were chanting reputation before Better Than Revenge.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And they had a little accent. The whole stadium has an accent, yeah. It's so cute. And I just like loved it. And they were just really, honestly, five stars for them. Like they were doing the work when it came to getting the content to the world in real time yes so the video of you know karma is a guy on the chiefs coming straight home to me there was a girl who filmed it perfectly and
Starting point is 00:26:53 then you see her freaking out and you know what like when I saw that I was like great and I put my phone down because I was like that's what I needed to say he was there I saw you know I saw him in the tent I saw him like like he obviously has been studying up on her music because he knew a lot more lyrics I'm sure he didn't know as many as I mean there's so many um so then I saw karma's a guy in the chiefs I'm like okay that's what I was waiting for and I put my phone down and I watched gossip girl and oh my god maybe 20 minutes later I checked my phone again and I was like the kiss the kiss the running off, the running off stage, the running up to him,
Starting point is 00:27:29 the big smooch. I need a body language expert on the toast because there is, if a picture says a thousand words, that video says 25 million. What is it saying to you? For me, it's because I think somebody could look at that video and be like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:27:46 like she ran to him and she put her arms around him first. But I think he's very respectful of like what she wants people to see. Because when she was offstage, she was backstage. But the thing about an arena, a stadium, excuse me, is it's circular. Yeah. And so people in the back can see Taylor coming offstage. She's really not fully in the privacy of her own world until maybe three minutes after she's off stage. Just because she's off stage doesn't mean she has privacy. Right. So he knows that. She knows that. And whenever she does backstage, because she always waves to everyone, people throw bracelets
Starting point is 00:28:14 at her, like she knows that that's going to be on tape. So I think he was like trying to just defer to her being like, oh, are we going to embrace here or not? Because like there's literally probably 5,000 people behind us. Like maybe we should wait till we get in the tent. So I think like her running to him and her putting her arms around him and her kissing him is not her like being more interested in him than he is. I think it's him totally respecting whatever boundaries she wants to put up. She has famously not really shared much about her relationships.
Starting point is 00:28:41 She really hasn't even been caught kissing her boyfriends. There's a few instances and none of them were by her own accord. It was somebody filming without her consent. There's like a blurry picture of her and Joe in the ocean. They didn't know the camera was there. There's obviously that horrifying Harry Styles New Year's Eve kiss that's so awkward it makes you literally want to crawl into your own skin. I don't think she knew anybody was filming then. It's usually paparazzi. It's usually when she thinks she's in privacy, but she's not. She has never like knowingly kissed someone in front of people, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I also think one, he's respecting her boundaries of how much she wants to show of their relationship. But two, it's like, this was her big night. Like, is there anything more annoying than someone running up to you and like making it about them? It's like wherever she wants to go next ever she wants to like debrief but like him like going and attack like no let her take the lead how does she want to exit the arena I will follow her lead I'm just here in whatever capacity she wants me to be no it's so true like what's worse than somebody who like makes someone else a special night about them and I feel like he acted
Starting point is 00:29:43 so appropriately yeah it's a hard line to walk because the whole night is about Taylor. But the second he's in the tent, everybody's turning around, filming him. Even when she comes on, they're going to, you know, film him for portions of it. How do you navigate that with like wanting to hype up your girlfriend, not take away from her moment, but also knowing like people are looking at you. And honestly, I think he handled the entire night perfectly like there's not one thing I would change yeah no because you want to be an interested and involved but you don't want to give people like too much you don't want to take away but you also want to
Starting point is 00:30:15 seem interested or else people will be like he was he looked miserable yeah so now of course everybody compares you know footage from Travis at an Eris tour to Joe at Reputation and at Reputation Joe was famously like wearing a hat incognito literally I think there's maybe one video of him smiling like he was very somber and now we're kind of because Travis is just kind of being everything that Taylor needs but also everything that the Swifties need the Swifties are now dragging Joe and I don't think that's fair because i think joe was very much following taylor's lead at that time she did not want her rep like they weren't not public because joe didn't want it you know like taylor called the shots taylor is taylor so i think he was following her lead i'm sure he was a great boyfriend like i don't think it's fair
Starting point is 00:30:56 to just completely drag just because we're so excited about travis but like i get it like you look at the two footages and like one of them is at the aero store having the time of his life and the other one looks like he's literally like on his way to jail like he's so Miz yeah but also like Travis is Travis you can't and he's not to say like Joe isn't famous but like he he's a working actor but he's not really a celebrity like a lot of other actors are you know he's he's we really wouldn't know much about him had it not been right so like Travis if he started acting in a way that wasn't congruous with his personality that we know like he's goofy silly he's always dancing when he scores a touchdown like Travis gonna Travis
Starting point is 00:31:34 Trav gonna Trav that's an amazing point as well but also Joe is like a serious guy he's like you know British fancy actor you know he does like time period pieces he's not gonna be like shaking his titties to end game you know yeah but i also think it's really not fair like joe was really great to taylor he was a good boy right for taylor at a really hard time like it's really easy for travis to come into the tent and hype up when all they're experiencing is love and adoration like joe was with tay through it all. And I just feel like you Swifties should have put a little more respect on his name and you don't have to compare.
Starting point is 00:32:10 No, you don't have to compare. You're right. Like their relationship was during the tough times. Like when Taylor wasn't so universally beloved and there were people, hashtag Taylor Swift is over party, the snakes. Like they made it through all of that. He was, you're right.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Like he was good to her. He was there for her. He was a steady force in her in her life six years it didn't work out and that's sad but just because like Travis is different doesn't make Joe bad you're right yeah Travis yeah of course Travis is more exciting for all of us duh but like duh but he's also so far they've only experienced one chief's loss like they haven't really gone through hardship together it's but it's all fun and games when it's all fun and games and I also think Taylor probably feels this is something Taylor would never fucking do the kiss like that just it just goes against who she is and I feel like because she's in this place where she literally can't breathe without
Starting point is 00:32:56 getting applause like she's reached a level that I think people are comparing only to Beatles mania like she has reached a level of universal love, respect, adoration, fandom that she really can't do anything wrong. So that's probably, it's not something she's ever experienced before. And it's probably such a relief for her.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And it's probably fun. So it's like, you know what? Yeah, I'm in love. Let me just kiss my fucking boyfriend after I just worked so hard on stage for three hours in a country, 15 hours for my own.
Starting point is 00:33:22 That's how fucking globally famous I am, bitch. Yeah. Also it's like, if she she if at this level of her success if she can't act how she wants and be how she wants you know and just live freely authentically then what's the point if she still has to like worry about oh am i running too fast am i you know too excited am i not kissing him like live your life girl you're really speaking like unbelievable facts today. Making like really good points. Thank you. I love just, I love internalizing what the Swifties are going through
Starting point is 00:33:52 and just making it more salient for larger life lessons. For larger life lessons. Like, it's true. What's the point in all of this success if you can't just like be who you are? Yeah, and live and enjoy your life. Also, the first night she sang Labyrinth. Yeah. Uh oh.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I'm falling in love. So cute. So cute. So then that was the headline. Taylor sings she's falling in love again. No, but it's so funny because towards the end of the American Heiress tour, like people were noticing certain songs Taylor would sing. Like she was just kind of singing them.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Like she wasn't feeling them. Lover. Like, oh my God, that's literally a song about Joe Alwyn. Like it's become like a wedding song. It's like one of those staple love songs. And she was just kind of giving it no love. Like she was doing it and she was killing it, but she wasn't feeling it. And then with certain secret songs that were 100% about Joe, she was literally just singing them. Like her face did not move. And she just sang a song. That I think she sang as a secret song. At the end of American Era's tour. And like the difference just in her demeanor.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's hilarious. Yeah. It's so real. Towards the end the secret songs like became less exciting. And they were certainly not coded in anything. It was just like here's a song I wrote. And your guys are going to hear it tonight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And then with these Argentinian shows. it was like, here are songs that mean something different to me now. Right. And then for people who are still like obsessed with Harry, Harry Styles, 1989 era, when she did Is It Over Now and Out of the Woods, two songs that we know are about Harry Styles. So mixing them together just kind of confirmed that for everyone. And also, if you think about the lyrics, like they're really they're telling the same story out of the woods is like this relationship like I just feel so unstable like are we out of the
Starting point is 00:35:29 woods yet like are we good are we not good and then is it over now it's like wait are we literally even still together yeah so they're very much like a thread she's also promoting 1989 tv right she's like so it's not even about oh I'm gonna you know I'm dating Travis and I'm gonna sing about Harry like here buy my new album right no she's a business woman and putting the two songs together it's like you have to listen to two songs on my album now right and you have to hear the deluxe one with the new songs deluxe yeah um so it was just kind of like an incredible weekend yeah and they also they went out to dinner in Argentina I think the night that the show was canceled, they were holding hands and the whole restaurant was cheering.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And there was just so many videos of them literally walking probably through this corridor that was maybe 11 feet long, but everybody did notice like he squeezed her hand three times, which is just like a cute thing like boys do, but squeeze my hand three times in the back of the taxi. Even though that song like I think is about Joe Alwyn, but whatever. So cute. So obsessed. And what's so insane is that we have four other stories. We have Grammy nominations. taxi even though that song like I think is about Joe Alwyn but whatever um so cute so obsessed and
Starting point is 00:36:25 what's so insane is that we have four other stories we have Grammy nominations I'm assuming we have Kylie at SNL like so many things happen and like who cares like it's insane to me that things that are enormous deals like otherwise we would be guffawing over literally who cares I don't know about guffawing but no but Kylie at SNL like I literally didn't even see a picture of Kylie at SNL until this morning yeah but I knew she was there I heard also like I am past the guffawing over Kylie and Timothy they're just like a stable Hollywood couple now it's yeah it's really kind of crazy crazy also have you given any thought to like what kind of songs Taylor might be writing right now about this yes like what themes and yes things what do you think and if my and by the way i just
Starting point is 00:37:10 want to say because people like are like coming for me like you said they weren't even dating like i know i was wrong but turny took accountability what more do you want and then i was like against it but okay listen i'm like stubborn and honestly i'm probably just jealous so like get off my back okay but like she literally said i was wrong and she's done in 180 what more do you want leave Turdy alone thank you um if I had to think because like for me there's so much going on here but like it really is like I see this whole relationship through the lens of a smut book like I really do like I just know Taylor's getting like dicked down in Dallas like I just know it and I think we're gonna get like some really sexy songs like very like very sexy but what Taylor does so brilliantly is like through the feminine gaze like not what normal people think is sexy
Starting point is 00:37:54 but like and that's why those romance smut books are so popular because it's really it's sexiness and it's love through the feminine gaze like we don't need to hear about like you know what we think is sexy is different, you know? Yeah. And I think we're going to get like some very. It's not going to be like, it's good and hot and here. No, we're going to get like feminine gaze, like, you know, hand on the small of my back type of energy, that type of sexiness. It's not overt, but it's very romantic and it's very manly. And that's so Travis. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:38:26 But also, I think we're're gonna get like some pop fun because think about how she's feeling right now just like on top of the world bubbly like nothing negative like I think I don't think we're gonna get ballads I think we're gonna get like just cheery pop kind of like message in a bottle energy where it's like you just want to pop your pussy because you're so fucking happy yeah and like just about how they're the two they're the biggest people in the world right now that feeling of like being on top of the world yeah i think she's gonna sing i'm on the top of the world looking down on creation and the only explanation i can find that's what i think we're gonna get is the love that i've found ever since you've been around.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Your love's left me on the top of the world. Literally, she should sample that. Taylor X the Carpenters. Or. I'm on top of the world, yeah. Yeah, also good. I'm on top of the world, yeah. Love. Yeah. I think she'll have a song called On Top of the world, yeah. Yeah, also good. I'm on top of the world, yeah. Love.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah. I think she'll have a song called On Top of the World. I would love that. On top of old Smokey, all covered in trees. In snow. Snow. I left my true loved one Ben sings that song differently.
Starting point is 00:39:49 He sings, On top of spaghetti All sprinkled with cheese That's why I said trees. I lost my poor meatball When somebody sneezed By the way, that's why I said trees. You were thinking of the other, you were thinking of Taylor's version.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I was thinking of Ben's version, cheese. Right, right. Yeah, so that's exciting to think about the next era. And like, not that we could possibly predict, but what do you think the album would be called? The thing is, she never makes it so obvious. Like, we really can't guess it. No, but like like you could guess a
Starting point is 00:40:25 word that might be a cinnamon a cinnamon yeah because honestly I feel like it would be an album a lot like lover I know not in the aesthetic because I think her aesthetic has changed so much she's like so like sophisticated these days like with her turtlenecks and stuff but I do think the vibe like Lover is really like a pop album to its core and it's also a happy album yeah so I think a lot of the music would and I think Lover is criminally underrated we talk about this all the time because I just think the marketing and the the aesthetic of it like wasn't right but the songs in and of itself are so brilliant yeah um I think it'll be similar to that and the name is so simple because she was so happy she was in just like a happy relationship her lover so I think it'd be simple too okay I have a few suggestions that okay are coming from thesaurus.com euphoria I love love
Starting point is 00:41:20 love that bliss no oh okay um ecstasy Taylor's very she's very wordy oh ecstasy I kind of like because it could also like reference the sexual thing of course but it's a little too crazy okay I'm going with euphoria even though it'd be like hard for SEO because of the show yeah even though the show's not coming back till 2025, like she has time. She has time to like, to own the word. Yeah. To own it,
Starting point is 00:41:48 Lisa, own it. Or maybe something like, like dream, dream land, dreamy. Also, when are we getting crazier?
Starting point is 00:41:58 When are we getting crazier? Taylor's version? Like it's time. Yeah. It's really time. We've suffered long enough. Okay. That would be a crazy surprise song yeah because it's a song you just play on the guitar it's a song everybody knows it's a song that raised so many of us like just do it wonder for an album title
Starting point is 00:42:20 no i don't like it and she has a song called Wonderland. So. Okay. Okay. Those are my predictions. The thing with Taylor, like she's so much smarter than all of us. And she's like such a, like a literate person who knows so many words, you know? I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:35 who could put only Taylor Swift could put this in, in a song. Hold on. I want to remember. It's fun to like, to put down your, uh, what's the word?
Starting point is 00:42:46 Predictions. Because then you could see like how right or wrong you were, how close you were. No, I'd love to go back like in a year from now when we have an album, like I would love to watch this and laugh. And see like what we got right, what we got wrong. Like only Taylor Swift could use the word mercurial in a song about having an affair. Okay. A dwindling mercurial high.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Okay. Okay. A dwindling mercurial high. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? Like what's the point? We can still think about Taylor actually because it's Grammy nominations. Oh yeah. They are here. So here are the nominees.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Record of the year. Worship by John Batiste. Not strong enough. Boy genius. Flowers. Miley Cyrus. What was I made for? Billie Eilish. record of the year worship by john batiste not strong enough boy genius flowers miley cyrus what was i made for billy eilish on my mama victoria monet vampire olivia rodrigo antihero taylor swift kill bill sizza so sizza leads the nominations with nine nominations she's most nominated yes um so record of the year is like a category that always confuses me because there's also song of the year and a lot of the same songs are nominated but also song of the year is a and w
Starting point is 00:43:50 for lana del rey anti-hero taylor swift okay let's go one at one by one and like just guess for um categories honestly i don't i actually i would say kill bill scissor it's kind of frustrating that taylor submitted anti-hero from this album to win every award or to be up for every award because it's just like not as good as other songs yeah so for record of the year I feel like it will be um Billie Eilish okay what was I made for yeah because it's just actually honestly maybe flowers because that's when I think of record of the I'm like, what song tortured us this year? Like, that was everywhere. But I don't feel that way about any of these songs.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I feel that way about Flowers. Like, that song, now I hate it. Yeah, I guess. It was on reels a lot. But what I do think is really kind of crazy and impressive is that Billie Eilish's nomination is a song that she wrote for a movie, like, not even, like, from her own album, you know? So maybe she'll win an Oscar for it. Oh, for, by the way, I could see her winning an Oscar.
Starting point is 00:44:47 So I'm gonna say for Record of the Year, I am gonna say Flowers. And I do feel like that would be Miley Cyrus's first Grammy. Yeah, I'm gonna say Kill Bill. Yeah, okay, I have another prediction for SZA in another category. So let's go to Album of the Year.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Okay, will do. Also Victoria Monet, is she from Victorious? No. Oh, no, Daniela Monet. will do also victoria monet is she from victorious no oh oh no daniella monet on a show called victorious that's confusing nope that's completely understandable how you got to that conclusion cool album of the year world music radio john batiste the record boy genius endless wait i have something to say i thought about it this morning because boy genius was just on snl this week and like i just want to say raise your hand if you don't know who or what boy genius is obviously me like Phoebe Bridgers is in it like I don't get it it's like a band I'm so confused never heard of it honestly okay endless summer vacation Miley Cyrus did you know that there's
Starting point is 00:45:39 a tunnel under Ocean Boulevard Lana Del Rey the Pleasure, Janelle Monae, Guts, Olivia Rodrigo, Midnight's Taylor Swift, SOS, SZA. So I think SZA has a real shot here. Like, like I'm not even like, I don't like actively seek out SZA songs and I know so many songs and I started to like add her songs to my playlist from this album. Yeah, no, this album was huge. I think it's going to go to to SZA it's either SZA or Midnight's like I I think Guts I was listening to it in the car yesterday on the way home from New Jersey it's fucking amazing like it's so good but it didn't really become ubiquitous like Sour did yeah but it's amazing it might even be better than Sour but it's so good yeah um so I think the
Starting point is 00:46:19 only and the same with Endless Summer Vacation like it had like two or three real bops but it's not this like album that everybody digested. No. As a whole. So like unless they just choose one of these out, like Lana Del Rey, even though I don't know one song on the album and I like.
Starting point is 00:46:33 No, they do that sometimes. They do that. Where it's like John Batiste or Boy Genius. You know, that sort of thing. But I do think. But if it works the way that it should work, it will be SZA or Taylor Swift. But I think it will be SZA between the two of them
Starting point is 00:46:46 Me too Song of the year A&W, Jack Antonoff, Antihero, Taylor Swift, Butterfly, John Batiste, Dance the Night, Dua Lipa, Flowers, Miley Cyrus, Kill Bill, SZA, Vampire, Olivia Rodrigo, What Was I Made For, Billie Eilish So whichever song was runner up to the other category Which I think is Billie Eilish so whichever song was runner up to the other category which I think is Billie Eilish here or Kill Bill I think Kill Bill will win one and Flowers will win the other the Grammys likes to do that although I like to do what these days give every person one award like you know give it it's giving participation it's giving five-year-old no like I love a sweep
Starting point is 00:47:19 though I don't think any of these deserve to sweep the Grammys this year. It's kind of like a not a super. A level playing field. I completely agree. It's not like a super, super competitive year. No, some years, like the folklore year, it was like everybody else should just go home. Like folklore wins everything. It's so obvious. Even like when Kacey Musgraves won, it was so obvious.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah, or like when Adele puts out an album or Beyonce. Right, right. Or Bruno Mars. Like Mars like okay everyone else like stay home uh but I feel like this year it's not like that okay I'm excited to talk about best new artist best new artist Gracie Abrams Fred again Ice Spice Jelly Roll Coco Jones Noah Cahan Victor why is there like two a's victoria monet the war the war and treaty i just want to say like i'm so glad the war and treaty is getting their like what's the word i'm looking for like not credit recognition they are i saw them perform like last year at the acm awards they're a husband and wife duo and they're jackie you never heard of two voices like this in your life and they just like sit,
Starting point is 00:48:25 they have like very gospel types, they have the most incredible voices and they like started to blow up and then Zach Bryan did a collab with them on his new album so like they're really blowing up. I don't think they're gonna win
Starting point is 00:48:34 but like I love that they're getting seen. They're a country husband and wife duo and they're so cute. That's so nice. But I do think Noah Khan will win and I do think he should win.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I think Ice Spice or Jelly Roll will win. Okay. Okay, next producer of the year, Skip, songwriter of the year, best pop solo performance. Flowers, Miley Cyrus, Paint the Town Red, Doja Cat, What Was I Made For, Billie Eilish, Vampire, Olivia Rodrigo, anti-hero Taylor Swift. I think Flowers is going to take it.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah, and I'm okay with that yeah um any other categories you want to go to country let's just do country because Luke Holmes was obviously once again slapped in the face I'm like really kind of over this like disgusting behavior Luke Holmes does so much for country music he's a global superstar he's so fucking unproblematic he makes incredible music he nobody even talked about his song during covid six feet apart which literally like changed my world nobody talks about joe the song he writes about you know people in recovery like he just does so fucking much for music he's an incredible songwriter and i'm really honestly i'm fucking sick of it i really am no it's disgusting and why like best country not only
Starting point is 00:49:43 did he not get acknowledged in the big category big categories like okay country's always getting you know kind of pushed to the side in his own fucking categories he doesn't get credit like I'm sick no and it's also weird that first song and record of the year like neither Luke nor Morgan songs were nominated even though they like dominated the billboard charts this year no but the thing is like Grammys is very political and I understand why they don't want to associate with no i'm morgan wallen and his myriad of controversy like i get it okay you know what but let's talk about luke fucking combs like i've had enough no i agree but it's like and they're both undeniable but it's like two people that they're just completely disregarding but also they like for even best country album like why isn't
Starting point is 00:50:22 luke nominated even like when you scroll down so they go by category by genre field number four the fourth category is jazz traditional pop musical theater and then country like country's underneath that country's the second maybe third largest genre the grammys do not respect the hell out of country like they don't so so best country song brand he's not nominated brandy clark buried chris stapleton white horse morgan wallen last night tyler childers in your love zach bryan featuring casey musgraves i remember everything i just feel like this category just doesn't represent the year of country yeah no by the way the best country song of the year will be last
Starting point is 00:51:00 night by morgan wallen it's been number one on Billboard for... Right, but do you think that he'll win? I saw so many TikToks going... TikToks. Tweets going viral being like, Morgan Wallen has zero nominations making fun of him. Like, Pop Crave and those types of accounts.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Then I went to look. I'm like, he literally has one. Yeah, I mean... They had millions of retweets. It was crazy. Crazy. Not that we should be getting our news
Starting point is 00:51:22 from Stan Twitter accounts, but you would think for Grammy nominations it would be accurate. Yeah. do you think he'll win even though like that is the country song of the year? I mean if he doesn't win it's just very clear that like the Grammys don't want to you know award him things and like be associated with him because it is the biggest song probably of the last couple of years like it's so big so it should win and if it doesn't I think we know why. Yeah. They just don't want to like be be associated with him best country album rolling up the welcome mat Kelsey Ballerini Brothers Osborne
Starting point is 00:51:48 by Brothers Osborne Zach Bryan by Zach Bryan Rustin in the Rain Tyler Childers bell-bottom country Lainey Wilson to me there's not a clear winner I think in terms of see like I would say rolling up the welcome mat by Kelsey Ballerini but I don't think that was the biggest in country it just had bleed over into pop and people it was great for country music but I don't know if it was the biggest country album if that makes sense I think Lainey Wilson will win me too for the same reasons that she swept the um the CMAs and yeah I for the Grammys it's all like optics yeah but you're definitely right that there isn't like a clear winner for any of these categories. Yeah, which also makes it interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah. Yeah. So when are the Grammys? February 4th. Wow, that's in a long time. That is in a very long time. It's kind of like giving Super Bowl. Literally, like, why are they releasing this now?
Starting point is 00:52:56 You're like, calm down. Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Kylie Jenner supports her beau, Timothee Chalamet, at the SNL after partyalamet at the SNL after party Kylie attended the SNL after party to support her mans the star was photographed arriving at the star-studded event Saturday evening in New York City following her boyfriend's hosting duties in the photos Kylie who arrived separately from Timothy showed up to the after party party wearing a chic all
Starting point is 00:53:21 black look sunglasses lethal hand. Lethal handbag. Looking gorgeous. Cute. Like they're dating. I think Chris was there too. She was posting like promoting SNL before it was even out. She's like so friendly with Lauren. They're just like besties now.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Cute. Like cute. I really don't have a lot to say here. It's just like good for them. No. And they are just quietly. Going strong. Going strong. Yeah. It's kind of crazy yeah I'm I'm happy for it like nothing to say he's I hope he's a good boyfriend to her did you see the tiktok of the girl who ordered kai and in the mail she got
Starting point is 00:53:58 a mini chainsaw no that's that's what showed up in the Kai box. That's so weird. No, I know. Was it a real chainsaw or like a toy? I don't know. Oh, that's a good question. I think it was real. That's weird. The new Kai drop looks really cute. It's all like puffers and cat suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:19 It's cute. Yeah. I haven't bought anything. No, but like maybe I'll get a puffer. Even though I like my puffer. And you literally live in Florida. But we're going on a ski trip and I could get, and I could get cold. You could. So maybe I need a puffer. Okay. Like it wasn't an attack. It felt like one that you were trying to stomp on my dreams of getting a puffer. Are you okay? No. puffer are you okay no okay i feel attacked oh well you shouldn't i was just simply pointing out that you live in florida so you like don't need a million puffer jackets i mean okay you're
Starting point is 00:54:53 being olivia i don't want a million i was gonna have two you don't need a million like stop you have so many you like you have so many breakfast tacos and so many puffer jackets. It's too much. Jackie, overconsumption is real. Okay, so I won't get one. Great. I hope you're happy. I'm going to freeze. I hope you're happy.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Because I've told mom. My child is not charging on my iPad. Are you ready for our next story? If it's the next story that's brought to you by Carraway, the holidays are approaching. Oh, my God. Excuse me. me the holidays are approaching and you know what that means awkward family discussions around the table but luckily your beautiful caraway pans are sure to be the topic of conversation let's talk about this add it to the list jackie so in my old apartment i had like the tiniest kitchen i had one caraway pan i had the frying pan like it was great yeah it was a pan
Starting point is 00:55:41 it was cleaned really well and it was great like whatever whatever. My new, so I got, I got the bakeware set. I got the full kitchenware set. I got like the food storage set and I got the organization. I'm obsessed. Like yes, Jackie's been talking about it forever. Sorry I haven't had a big kitchen like you forever. Like now I do and now I have everything. Oh my God. I got, okay, let's talk about that about that the way they know like it's made for people who live in New York City apartments that little thing that hangs off the door that organizes your lids genius oh my god I'm obsessed my little cabinet with all my pots and pans makes me so happy now it's like not normal how happy it makes me I got the sage green which I totally complements the vibe in my apartment you guys it's like it's like I get it
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Starting point is 00:58:43 Nicki Minaj is on the cover of Vogue's December issue opening up about her plastic surgery regrets she says I was fine just the way I was so Nicki Minaj joined run through with Vogue podcast to discuss her new cover for the magazine along with motherhood and why she regrets getting plastic surgery so Vogue has a podcast now yeah I guess accompanying with their magazine like and it's called run through run through So Vogue has a podcast now? Yeah I guess accompanying with their magazine like. And it's called Run Through? Run Through with Vogue. That's kind of a good name like the run through. Yeah and it's good when they have like their cover star on to talk you know more in depth about the cover. Sure. Yeah that's like something they should have done like a little while ago like
Starting point is 00:59:19 when you when you want to be on the cover of Vogue obviously everybody wants to be on the cover of Vogue and so when you get someone major they obviously now make them agree to like 73 questions there's like a whole list in addition to the interview and the cover so having a podcast go along with that is a great idea but like they really should have done this like two years ago yeah well sorry Turdy and you know what actually maybe they did like maybe we didn't know about it let's see when the podcast started and is it like a monthly podcast or a weekly podcast um i'm gonna i'm gonna let you know it is weekly they have like 65 episodes oh so maybe it was two years ago well no 65 weekly would be like a little over a little over a year okay i stand corrected
Starting point is 01:00:03 so she's on the podcast talking about her plastic surgery regret saying I guarantee you if you change anything on your body and do anything surgical and all this you're going to more than likely not definitely more than likely look back one day and say I was fine just the way I was she told the host and that's what happened to me I could not believe even some of the photos that I didn't love she opened up about her reason for going under the knife in the first place saying I didn't like being skinny having a flat butt having boobs that didn't sit high enough it was a lot of things. She added that she used to shy away from looking at old photos of herself as she was never satisfied with her appearance. Now she shared I love the
Starting point is 01:00:36 way that person looks physically. She believes her son helped change her tune. She said I think pregnancy could have played a role because seeing my son did remind me of myself so much my real self and it made me think why didn't I like this so weird but seeing old photos being able to look at old photos again made me realize those old photos are beautiful she recently underwent breast reduction surgery a decision she talked about in her vote cover story she said I love it I used to want a bigger butt and now I look back and realize how silly that was. Love your curves and love your non-curves. There's nothing wrong with any of it. Oh my God, first of all, I love this message.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I think we hear this a little bit from people, but she's being like really honest. Some people say like, oh, I wish I didn't do, you know, surgeries, but she's saying, I wish I didn't do butt. Like she's being very, she's giving details. Yeah. Which I think is really very honest.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And I really respect this whole conversation. I think it's a great message. And I think this trend, it's not happening a lot. But I feel like Kylie talked about it, but she doesn't appear to be, like, undoing a lot of that stuff. But she talked about how becoming a mom made her, like, question some of the decisions she made when she was younger black china yeah she's completely undid everything and I think she looks even more beautiful than she ever looked I love this I really do yeah Molly
Starting point is 01:01:54 May talks about this in her book how she like kind of overdid it with the filler and how she just wishes that she never did and I think it's it's really easy to get carried away with this stuff and you really are perfect just the way you are. And if you want to do something, I would sit on it for a very long time. Not just like a month, six months, years. I would wait years. Yeah. And make sure that it's what you want to do.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Because I think for a lot of celebrities, they go back and forth. And it's easy for them. But for the average person, like it's not that easy. It's a huge decision. It's a huge decision. It's so much money. You take so much time off of work to recover. it's not that easy huge decision it's so much money you take so much time off of work to recover it's not like you can just go in and out of the doctor's office yeah so I think it's really good that she's sharing this message and also like
Starting point is 01:02:35 trends do change and then you're kind of stuck with something that's no it's so true I feel like for the last couple of years like the curvy trend has been like so popular, but I feel like we're going more like, if you're like trends in fashion and celebrities, like now everyone's going for like the skinny aesthetic. And like, if you just spent all this time money on a new ass, only to look out of style a year later, you don't want to make permanent changes to your body.
Starting point is 01:02:59 That might be out of fashion. Yeah. So, um, also the pictures from the shoot are beautiful she's really like in her fashion minimalist era love and i love this era for her me too i like really love nikki minaj like you've done a 180 i know i know i like i know she's problematic like and can we just like move on like who isn't i it's so true i just love ever since she like went on the Potomac reunion and
Starting point is 01:03:28 like I just love people who don't take themselves so seriously you know and who just have fun like you're famous and you're rich and you can do whatever you want like just have fun like if I was so so famous like yeah like I would literally show up to BravoCon like you know what I mean like I just I love people who don't take life so seriously yeah and she's always like tweeting like nonsense like I just appreciate the unseriousness of it all yeah and so many celebrities like keep their real self like so hidden they're so scared to step out of bounds everything that they do is just so curated and boring and I'm bored and I'm not bored by Nicki Minaj because she's just so unserious and she's so funny.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And she, I love, and you know, the fact that, I don't think every cover star does the podcast, but she like loves to talk. She has like Queen B radio. She does like Apple music radio. Like she loves to talk. She has an, like she has a personality and she has something to say.
Starting point is 01:04:18 So I feel like I kind of love that she did the podcast because not everyone would. Podcasting is not for everyone. No, it's not. You have to have something to say. Yeah. So December cover star. Love that for her.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yeah. Because you know Krispy Kreme doesn't give out a free donut without us mentioning it. No, it's so true. Let me guess what they're doing it for now. You know. Think back to this morning in our group chat. You'll get it. You know what today is group chat world kindness day Krispy Kreme is giving out free dozen donuts today for world kindness day oh wow a whole dozen yep Krispy Kreme is giving
Starting point is 01:04:58 out a free dozen in honor of world kindness day but there's a catch of course there is to do like a mitzvah only the first 500 guests visiting Kris cream shops in the u.s will get the sweet promotion and walk away with a dozen free donuts no purchase necessary so by the time this episode comes out i'm sure your local crispy cream has already met 500 customers who got i don't know if you live first of all this is why you move to a small town this is why small town on the west coast go get your free donuts yeah if i lived in like a very small town that just happened to have a random Krispy Kreme. Oh, my God. It would be over for you, bitches.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I'd put them out of business. I just feel like people might think we're kind of like Krispy Kreme industry plans because like they don't. We are. We don't make a PR move without us like making it a fast five story. Yeah. But that's because they're constantly innovating they're constantly like on trend and I'm sorry they're constantly giving away donuts and yeah we're gonna reward good behavior like you're giving away free food love you and like this podcast we appreciate that you guys take the time to listen to it.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And like in return, we will let you know on any given day where you can get a free donut. Right. Right. Right. So it's honestly, it's an exchange of services. Like you listen,
Starting point is 01:06:18 we give. Right. So happy national world kindness day. National world. Okay. Jackie, in the spirit of World Kindness Day, why don't you say something nice about me
Starting point is 01:06:31 and I'll say something nice about you. That's so nice. It's also like kind of a joke that it's World Kindness Day. Like the world could not be nastier. It couldn't be a nastier place filled with unkind people who are probably celebrating World Kindness Day and thinking it's about them. No, let's be real. Let's talk about like the people who actually like engage in World Kindness Day or some of the most miserable fucks on the planet.
Starting point is 01:06:55 People who use the word kind, I find, are some of the worst people. Actually, I'm going to disagree with you there because, you know, as a person who talks a lot for a living, I find that I'm always looking for new words because I hate to say the same couple of words over and over again. And I feel like the word kind is actually underrated in the sense like when you want to describe someone as nice, the word nice is just so bleh. For sure. Like if you really, if somebody is genuinely like a nice person to describe them as kind, I think is actually a much more impactful word I totally agree that's not what I'm talking about but like I feel like a few there's like campaigns like you
Starting point is 01:07:30 mean people who post on Instagram being like be kind vote with kindness yeah like kind you're right it is it's kind of a a shield people hide behind such a shield like those people who post about kindness are the least kind people. Describing someone as kind, fine. That's a very nice word. It's the same way I feel about people who like post about like herstory and like women's issues. Are some of like they, oh my God, they're so fucking nasty to other women. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Or silent about the mass rape of women in Israel. Well, that's for now. Those clowns are exposed. Come at me again with your herstory. Herstory? Come at me again on International Women's Day. I do love herstory. We've kind of made it our own.
Starting point is 01:08:17 People who use it in a serious way, no. But people who use it like we do, it's funny. And herstory, I'm obsessed. Yeah, no, agreed. So how do we go about getting a free donut you have to be you know asking for a friend one of the first 500 guests to visit Krispy Kreme but no I want to go back to your exercise for world kindness day I'm gonna say something kind about oh yeah I'm gonna say something kind about you like a big kindness or a small kindness because I think sometimes small acts of kindness are very meaningful whatever you want I love your sweater turdy you look beautiful and radiant
Starting point is 01:08:47 oh I wasn't like I didn't mean it like that I meant like um I meant like you say something kind about someone like oh like I was gonna say you're a great mom oh that's so nice I was just giving you a small compliment. Yeah, but sure, talk about my sweater. I was giving you a small compliment. Okay, so I have a nice sweater and you're a brilliant mother. I'm so glad that we did this exercise. Okay, well then you should have gone first. I feel great.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I said big compliments are small. I asked the question. But no, it's fine. And actually, my sweater is from a new toe sponsor that I've become obsessed with. I think we've only done one ad for them so far, but I think they have more coming up. And not enough people talk about Loft. Not enough people talk about Loft. I just got like a whole new wardrobe from Loft, especially for our trip.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I got like a bunch of cozy knit items. And this quarter zip that's hot pink is from Loft. And I'm just like, not enough people talk about Loft. It's not your grandma's Loft, you know? Claude, I'm going to show you something pornographic. Oh, okay. Oh, wow. Look at that picture of theographic. Oh, okay. Oh, wow. Look at that picture of the donut.
Starting point is 01:09:48 It looks like a butthole. And honestly, I want to eat it. So it was pornographic after all. It was pornographic. Oh, my God. Look at these close-ups. No, for real. It's at the end of the show.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Go to your local Krispy Kreme. Honestly, I should. Even though my local Krispy Kreme is like a tourist destination because it's in Times Square. Yeah, you're not one of the first 500. There's not a donut left in sight. No, but if you are on the West Coast in a small town, go get your free dozen. Give them out to people for World Kindness Day. Try and be kind, even though it's so hard for so many of you.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Today's episode is for the small town West Coast girls. Isn't every episode? No. I feel like it is because I like it. And because we come out so early on the West Coast, like they're living
Starting point is 01:10:32 the dream out there. Yeah, but like why the only the small town girls? Got you there. Because I like it. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh oh oh because you like it okay okay yeah so happy world kindness day everyone don't forget to punch someone in the face today don't forget to be a nasty bitch in celebration of world kindness day
Starting point is 01:11:02 um that is our show i'm starving now like i have to eat something i have my sakara lunch in celebration of World Kindness Day. That is our show. I'm starving now. Like I have to eat something. I have my Saqqara lunch waiting for me. Yum. Rude. You make fun of me when I eat tacos and make fun of me for,
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