The Toast - The Hairspray Rabbit Hole: Thursday, February 19th, 2026

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a part, delicious, Deppinicious, and also a Fergalicious weekend. Or Thursday? Just, oh, Friday? Wait. Thursday. It's Thursday. I've kind of thought it was Friday all morning.

Oh, that's a bummer for you. Because I was about to say, I didn't want to jinx it, but I felt like this week was kind of like cruising by in a timely manner, but not if you think it's Friday. Yeah, like up until this very moment, it was Friday. But we have our music class, and our music class is on Thursdays. Yeah. Hmm. Interesting.

How the mind works. Well, it is Thursday if that changes your feelings. Yeah, worse, for sure. Yeah. But you have more time to accomplish the things that you need to accomplish this week. Sure. How does that sound? Yeah, I have more time to finish love story.

John F. Kennedy Jr. and Caroline Bessette story. You're watching it? I am. I got like hoodwinked. Everyone was talking about it. And you know what? Like, and everyone's saying, it's so amazing. It's so amazing.

And I've kind of been off Ryan Murphy for a while. I don't do American Horror Story. Like, all of his shows are like so freaky. I loved the O.J. one. Or, yeah, OJ and Monica Lewinsky was very good. So, you know, he does like these historical things really well. And this is kind of like a blind spot in American culture for me. I wasn't alive.

And like, I don't know. I never got into it. But everyone talking about it. It's so chic. It's so chic. I'm like, you know what? I kind of need to watch it. so funny because the first scene is like the very end of their story and then they go back and time.

Okay. And they're like getting into a plane. Yeah. Ben has no idea. He's like, this show is amazing. And like he's like, oh, he flies. Like Ben has no idea what happens and it's so funny. And I really don't know a lot about her, about the Kennedys in general. It's just like not like a rabbit hole I've ever really gone down. Now I'm obviously like obsessed. And I just want to say like the show is really not good. the acting is so corny. It's almost camp, like how bad it is. But the story itself and these two people are so inherently interesting. And like the time in New York, the Calvin Klein, like, it's so chic.

The show is amazing because of that. But don't get a twisted. Like, it's not a show that's, I think, done well. It's not a job well done. No, but it's very hard to fuck up. They got two actors who really look like, excuse me, I'm sorry, Naomi Watts sucks as Jackie O. I do believe it's very hard to play Jackie O. I made fun of Natalie Portman, too.

like, jock, like you have to talk so pocked. And she's not doing a good job either. But I think anyone who does that accent, like, I would have thought Jackie O. playing it was weird. Yeah.

It's just a weird way to talk. Maybe she's a weird lady. Right. So, like, I have problems with, like, a lot of it, and it's not good, but it's so good. And the crazy thing is the Cowra-Radzwell erasure. Because I feel like Ryan Murphy watched Housewives and, like, hates Cowell Radswell,

because, like, he literally cut her out. And I don't think- Because Lee's in it? Not Lee. Her, Anthony. Yeah, yeah. He is JFK Jr's best. He's in the seat. I've only watched two and a half episodes.

He's in it 10 times already. So, and I've heard that she's not in the show at all. But like, she was there. I thought maybe in Housewives she was like lying about her involvement. And again, I didn't really know the players. So her saying like she was best friends with like Jack Jack. Like, sure. No, she was there.

Or maybe she wasn't according to Ryan Murphy. You know, Ryan Murphy hates her for sure. Oh, that's so interesting. And now I'm just putting all the pieces together. because he keeps going to, you know, dinner at home with Jackie O and his sister, Caroline, Jack Schlossberg's mom. So, like, I didn't really understand, like, the Kennedy dynasty and, like, who's married to who.

Yeah. And I know that, like, Arnold Schwarzenegger's wife is in there a little bit. Like, I need to learn a little bit. There's a lot of kids, like... Actually, it reminds me of my favorite TikTok. You would love this. There's a lot. I don't know which generation it is, but, like, RFC's siblings.

He has a lot of siblings. Oh, right. And then RFK, right. Okay. Do you know these? Okay, this is my favorite video. They like do singing, they make songs about like big families. They did what about the productions. Yes, I've seen them. mother and wife to Patrick Schwarzenegger Arnold Trochernaker Oh my quote Chorchonaker

Bobby Kennedy was a USA At one point also a Trinny Jen His love to marry She married someone very Important until he had to resign so scary It was end the Cuomo Until they let her go

Oh no and don't forget that RFK Had a little son Also RFK RFK RFK RFK So like the lore So like the lore

Soren I really help that So like the lore So I know I'm not the first person to ever say this Well, that's like the point. Is really crazy. I've not really gotten into them either. Yeah. I did read one book that was like fan fiction of John and Carolyn

meant to be, I think it was called. Emily Giffin. Oh, it was so amazing. You know, I think I like that version. I think I need to get into it. And then, of course, the Taylor Swift of it all. Yes, yes. There's just a lot of them.

I think you would like the show. And also, like, you were learning about Carolyn Beset. Like, she was kind of plucked. from obscurity. Like she was working at the mall. I learned about Carolyn and meant to be by Heavenly Giffin. Correct. No, it's really, like, it's good and not because I can't stress enough. Like, the show is, like, the acting is so bad. But I also, like, Ryan Murphy's, like, clearly taking out personal grievances. Like, based on his interpretation of, like, their

relationship, like, John of Kennedy Jr. was, like, such a loser. Like, he could not get arrested. He fell the bar exam, like, two and a half times. And he was, like, this isn't district attorney, but, like, because of who he was. And they have a rule, if you're, like, in the district attorney's office, like, you have to pass the bar. within three times. So when he didn't pass each time, it was like big headline news. So he was just like,

he didn't know who he was. He wanted to start a political magazine called George. I don't know what ends up happening with that. Like this whole thing is like a spoiler free zone for me because I have no idea. And then Carolyn Beset was just like she was that girl. Yeah. But also I was reading a TikTok.

Yeah, I read TikToks. I read TikTok about how like Carolyn Beset never did any interviews. Like nobody really knows her personality. So the girl playing her is just kind of like making shit up. Yeah. Based off of like photos. She's like very cool girl. She was like having sex with a lot of people.

And like you see her boobs. in the show, which I thought was weird, because that's so not Carol Oversett. No. I know. So, like... That's kind of, like, undignified. Like, for... Yeah, I've seen her boobs twice already.

She didn't ever even give an interview when you're showing us her boobs. I know. She wouldn't like that. But, like, I don't know where they're getting this information from. She's a cool girl, like, out every night. Like, she never does cocaine. Like, everybody around her does cocaine. Probably from, like, the people who knew her.

You know, probably after everything happened with them, like, people shared, like, tributes about her. Oh, well, okay, so I'm, like, learning a lot. And justice for Darrell Hannah, who was like, actress at the time who was dating JFK for like many years before and she's like Ryan Murphy hates her like she's such a loser what is Ryan Murphy like it's a love letter to Carolyn Bissette she's so fucking cool except the actress has to stop doing this she's always biting her life but it's like girl there are other like gestures she doesn't stop doing it I don't even know what's trying to convey

it's not like sexy it's like she's thinking she went to the Carrie Bradshaw School of Acting the girl like it's so turnt she's like jogging around New York City with her curly blonde hair whatever um back to what i was saying about what oh darrell hannah oh and so then like they haven't even gotten together yet it's like the love story of like how they got together and she um is like this big head honcho she like discovered kate moss at calvin klein she's like always discovering people and she's like seeing this guy and she decides like she like she just wants to make him the next they had to replace mark walberg after his like um slur drama do you remember that no he was the face of Kevin Klein, like he was also like a rapper, and then he said a slur and they like had

to get rid of Marky Marky and the funky bunch. So they had to get rid of Marky and the bunch. So they were looking for a replacement and she's like this guy, she's fucking, he's really handsome and like a model. So she makes him, whatever. And I was looking like, who is it? Is it like Brad Pitt? Who is it supposed to be? And it was this guy I never heard of Michael Bergen. Of course he wrote a memoir after Carolyn died saying they continued their relationship during her and JFK Jr's relationship. Now he was giving like star fucker and like if that's the case, like don't put it in a book. The fact that you're putting in a book makes me think that is not true. And like have some respect for the spoiler alert.

Oh, yeah. Right. You know? Yeah. Like we didn't need to know that. Yeah, I just kind of like need Carol Radswell to speak up. Maybe she has. Would you even know?

No, I don't follow her on platforms. But like the erasure of Carol Radswell. Okay. Is real. Okay. I think you would enjoy it. Maybe I'll watch it. I have so much on my plate right now.

Last night I watched Summer House from the night before. And I'm continuing my journey through Southern Charm of getting caught up. So I was very much in the Bravo sphere. Summer House. is as predicted. It's just going to be like copy paste every episode of like Kyle and Amanda fighting making the house uncomfortable until they eventually divorce in four months from what we're watching now. They're going to and then there's another TV show. They're going to live like this for four more months where they literally like they they

don't like each it's so painful to watch like it really is and they're both so sad you know and it's just sad it's not like tea or anything. Summer should be fun. It's just a sad thing to watch because like she's obviously like very alone and very depressed and like she can't change this person and he is just like, he's alone in this world. Like he's very sad, you know, separating the art from the artist. Because I know we have personal. Just watching this character on a TV show, I'm like sad for both of them. And it's clear that they can't make each other happy.

So like, why are we still trying? But then she'll, like, say nice things about him. She'll be like, I can't help, I'm in love with him. Well, that's what I was saying. Like, before they announced their divorce, I actually, like, stopped thinking that they were bad for one another because their love must have been so great to carry them through, like, really unforgivable things.

And she must have loved him so, so much. Like, so at that point, like, I almost was rooting for them. Yeah. But the love wasn't enough. The love wasn't enough. Is it ever? Because that was, like, really all they had at the end. I don't think they were, like, a well-matched couple.

They don't have love. That's not what they did. But for the most part, like, that was all they really had. Like, they just loved each other. No. I don't think so. Yeah. I mean, why else would you stay?

Like, seriously, why else? Oh, I don't know. Maybe just because, like, you can. Just like be comfortable with someone like they're your best friend and like and she keeps saying that's my best friend. I'm like, no, Sierra is your best. The way you talk to Sierra, like you're so happy. You're so engaged. The way you talk to me, that's not your best friend.

They had a fight last weekend and they didn't talk about, they didn't talk all week. And then when they came out, he like goes to apologize and she's like, why don't you talk to me all week? And he was like, you know, and he's like, you wouldn't talk to me, whatever. But it's like you're living in the same apartment and you didn't talk all week. And then you only talk on TV? That's really bad. Yeah. They're in a really bad place.

And I think if they wanted to, they could, you know, work through it. But why work through it? There's nothing worth now. When you are who you are and she is who she is and you're both going in different directions. Like, seriously, why work through it? Yeah. And also, like, Kyle is who he is. He has been who he is.

And, like, he's been really upfront about who he is for many years. I feel like she went through a transition. And sometimes you just change. Mm-hmm. In addition to all the other things that are wrong with the marriage. I think she evolved past him. Yeah. And evolved past putting up with it.

Yeah. Which is good. Yeah. But it's going to be a long summer. It's gonna be a long hot summer We should be together with your feet up on the dashboard now Oh, I wonder what Keith Urban thinks about Paul Salem Oh my gosh

We should have a rival photo of Keith Urban We should have musician of the week Along with businessman But he's probably sick when he watches the toast And he sees his girl's new man And one thing about the toast is like we are Keith Urban first show We love Keith Urban. You're Keith over Nicole?

Actually, like I don't know. Let me think really hard. I have to think about all their past history. I mean, her step forward wives, him, somebody like you, the fighter. Like, it's her big little lies. Like, I actually don't know whose cultural impact is personally greater. And then like on a personal level, they've, they both seem lovely. Yeah.

I don't think we have to take sides. But what about like if Keith and Paul are in a duel? Oh, I'm rooting for Keith. You're rooting for Keith, even if it breaks Nicole's heart. Correct. Maybe that's like the journey back to. one another, you know? You think so? Yeah. I do feel like I'm still holding out hope. Like, I'm like, they are OTP. No, when sometimes when a couple, like, whenever I get past the shock

of a couple divorcing and then like, I'm like, okay, they're split up. I'm like, how were they ever together? Oh, no, I thought what you're going to say and that I think is that when a couple splits up and then gets back together. Like, I don't know how you could lay with someone who you've been broken up with. Like, I think that a lot about like Greg and Neen, even though I do think they were one of the greatest love stories of our time. So like, you went all the way to get divorced. And when you get divorced, you see like truly the worst side in someone. then you get back together with them, that's crazy behavior. No, that I wasn't even saying because that's so crazy.

I just mean like, wow, there was a time where Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman were together. I'm still living in that time. What a time. But that's how I feel about like Kyle and Randall, like how are these people ever together? Kim and Kanye. Yeah. Lala and Randall. Lala and Randall.

Yeah. One of the greats. One of the famous couples throughout history. Oh, for sure. If we have a famous couple throughout history party, I'm dressing up as them. Oh, you are. I like that. If we have a famous couple

to start a history party, I'm dressing up as Joe Mancinello and Sophia Vergara. Oh, that's nice. It's just like, I know that Randall is like, bad. But I'm still, like, living in, like, the fantasy of which I thought their relationship was.

Of what we were told. Yeah. Rangover. I know, like, logically I know. But, like, when I think about, like, the trope of Lala and Rana, like, I think it's what I thought their relationship was. Like, that sounds nice.

Yeah, like, everybody dadded them, but it was a true love until it wasn't. No, and it was nothing of the sort. It was literally a nightmare. Not funny. And you saw she's doing a podcast with his ex-wife. I did see that. They're making a lot of news.

I see a lot of clips. Is it hard for you not to choose them as stories? No, no, no. It's nothing like, there's not like big bombshells being trapped. But it's just like the way they interact and like talk about stuff. And I think the ex-wife talks about how it was like so good actually when Lala was with Randall and like having her in the house. And like for her kids, like it was actually really. Yeah, nice.

Beyond like the betrayal. Once they got past that. Yeah, that Amber von Tussle is a bigger woman than me. Yeah, Amber von Tussle. That's a famous couple throughout history, Link and Amber. Are you more of a Linkin'Amber stand or a Tracy and Link Stan? What do you think? Amber.

Like, if you had to boil down our personalities, it's literally Tracy be Amber. It's just like not true for me. No, it's not, but just like aesthetics-wise. Yeah, like on the surface, you would think. Right. But who do you think you really, are you a pen? I have bits of penny. Like who do you really in your soul, not aesthetics, like in your soul, who do you see yourself

in when it comes to the cast of hair spray? Because I actually see myself as Corny Collins. I was going to say the same. Okay. I was going to say corny. That tracks. Yeah. Just like affable.

Sound off in the comments. Who do you see yourself as non-aesthetically, but spiritually, in the cast of hair spray? I'm also like motor mouth Maybel to my core. You're also Edna Turn 1. Don't be rude. We said in spirit. Don't be fucking rude. We said in spirit.

You're kind of Miss Pinky. Mr. Pinky. Mr. Pinky. Pinkerton. Jerry Stiller. Love him. There's really no bad answers. There's, except Amber von Telsel's mom.

Like, she's legitimately evil. And, like, racist as out. Like, she's awful. She is. That's also the weird part about hairspray. It's, like, it's such a swirly movie, but there, I feel like I've said this before. I'm having deja vu. But it's low-key, like, addressing, like, a very difficult time in our country.

There's, like, you know, segregation. And we're, like, singing about it. Yeah. No, but I think that's, like, a great. No, but I think that's like a great way to like, you know, learn the lesson is their music. I also feel like I relate to Seaweed's little sister, Little Inez. Yeah. Is she in the original or was she like a character they created when they redid the movie?

She's in the original because when they go to... Oh, she wins the pageant. Yeah. And when they go to Motor Mouth May Bell, like she's there. But in the second movie, they gave her her own song. They explored her a little bit more. They explored, yeah, they developed that character. And I think it was a value ad.

Everything. Okay, we're going down the Air Spray Rommetole that I just have to say. Everything they did in the modern adaptation of hairspray that like, you know, sometimes they write new music, like Wicked wrote original music and they changed the original storyline.

Almost always, I think those are mistakes. Like the wicked songs were terrible. But without love, which was a song they originally wrote for the new adaptation and like the little script changes, Little Iones's backstory. Run and tell that, I believe. Baby run and sit the black of the berry,

the sweet of, like every decision they made in perfection. Yeah, who made that movie? I feel like... Sean McNamara. For sure. No, I think it was, um, oh, was it the guy who does all the, all of them? Adam Shankman. You know him? Oh, he did go, Adam Schenckman is the Paul McNamara of movie musicals. Okay, so Adam Schakman has done Rock of Ages. Yeah, that's not what I'm talking about. Hairspray. What Men Want, which I don't think that Mel Gibson movie is what you're talking about. The Pacifier, a perfect movie. Oh, a walk to remember. Cheaper by the dozen.

Two, bringing down the house. Oh, he obviously loves Steve Martin. Wedding Planner. Step up. All the step-ups. The last song. 17 again. The last song.

That's amazing. Hairspray, wait, you guys. Hairspray 2. White lipstick. What is Hairspray too? How have we not seen that? Oh my God, he did. He's all that with Addison Ray.

Oh. That's a perfect movie. I don't know why she stopped making movies. Oh, it was a working title of a now canceled sequel to Hairspray. It was ordered by New Line Cinema and written by John Waters. Oh, sorry. John Waters. It was set to start the original cast minus Michelle Pfeiffer as Velma von Tussle.

So I guess she didn't commit to it. But it never. It was called Hairspray 2, colon, white lipstick. What the hell does that mean? The last song, I feel like you haven't fully ingested that. No, no, I ingested it, threw it up, put it in a blender, gave birth to it, like, amazing. Like, just for that alone. Yeah.

So add him to the list of people who can direct our life story. Yeah. It's a short short list. Sean McIntymerer and what's the name? Adam Schenckman for the time being. Yeah. That should I start a list of great directors. Oh, and Kenny Rattiga.

Oh, of course. So he's a choreographer. No, but he directs too because he did high school musical. Yeah, he also did dirty dancing, which I feel like is his greatest claim to fame, which is crazy because I don't care. To me, that's his flopper. 1,000%. Best directors.

Adam Shankman. Sean McNamara. Oh, and then also like, no, it's not of the, the list is not best directors. It's, um, like, the only directors we would trust with our story. No, no. Because it's like people who will be involved in our biopic.

Because also, I'm trying to remember this guy's name. Hold on. Who is it? Remember we were talking about that songwriter who's like written all of the songs that we like? Yes. Was it like the guy who written like one direction? Or the client. I looked up he could be the one.

I thought that's what we were talking about from Hannah Montana. I feel like it was the climb that put us on this rabbit hole. No, his name sounded so familiar. I think it was a woman. Only a woman could write the climb. I think it was like Jesse something. It wasn't the climb. I think we looked up like who wrote most of...

Jesse Alexander? No. And that's a woman. No, it wasn't that person. Do you know that Ed Shearren wrote 18 by One Direction? I feel like I do. That's something like they're always trying to shove down my throat. Like fun fact.

Yeah, like we don't care. All right, what I'm looking for, like, when you're on an airplane and they have like pop culture facts. Right, right. Okay, let's get into the stories. We haven't even started the show. Sorry, sorry, sorry, right. Before we like start on her like, that's like the, sorry, that's like the spray pipeline. That's like fourth quarter things.

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Our first story, major news. Ex-Prince Andrew, arrested on his 66th birthday following Epstein Files' revelations. Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, has been arrested over his ties to... I'm sick that he has that name. I know, over his ties to convicted rapist and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. The former prince was arrested Thursday, which also happened to be his birthday, on suspicion of misconduct in public office for allegedly forwarding confidential trade documents to Epstein. If convicted, he could face a maximum sense.

of life in prison. It's crazy, like, what he actually got arrested for. I'm not complaining, obviously. I think it's great. But what he got arrested for is, like, not, like, the crimes on the island. It was, like, because he happened to have, like, a special title, which was, like, a business envoy and forwarding the email as, like, mail fraud or whatever. So they got him on, like, a technicality. I'm not upset.

It's like Al Capone. They got him on taxes. Right. It's like Teresa Judice, you know? No, I'm kidding. So it's, like, really crazy that from the Epstein files, like, there still have, like, no arrests been made for, like, the... actual crimes. Right. Up until now. Well, actually, no, he's not arrested for human traffic,

for participating in sex trafficking. In like prostitution, child endangerment, like, bring a child across state lines, like none of it. Having said that, like a win is a win, I'll take it, would love to see him locked up. So glad Lilith is not alive to see this. Yes. Because you know, like, low key, her fatal flaw was that he was her favorite. But like, so her greatest crime is loving her child. Like, I can't fault her. Yeah. No, it's very conflicting. I'm glad she's not around to see this too. 1,000%. You just know Harry and Megan are like having the time. I mean, they're alive with this piece of information.

For sure. And I just know they hated him. I think probably like everyone hates him. I don't know. He was like loved until he wasn't. I guess he, the way they betrayed him in the crown, which is for me like, you know,

as close to what history was. Was that like he was very like affable. Like the funniest most fun guy in the room. Yeah. Like party hard. I believe it. Yeah. And I think party too hard.

Do you feel bad for his daughters? Because they seem like nice girls. But I'm sorry, justice must be served. And I love this. I would love to see him in a jumpsuit. Like, yeah. And King Charles has... I forgot it that there's a king.

Issued a statement. And this is brother. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's his brother. Yeah, so his brother's being arrested. He's, you know, head of... State. So this is what he said.

He put out a statement. I think it strikes the right note. He said, I've learned with the deepest concern the news about Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, and suspicion of misconduct in public office. What now follows is the full fair and proper process by which this issue is investigated in the appropriate manner and by the appropriate authorities.

In this, as I have said before, they have our full and wholehearted support and cooperation. Let me state clearly, the law must take its course. Ooh, not the law. Not like, Andrew. Like, they do not give a fog. They're not dying on this hill. Oh, hell no.

Sometimes the royal family, like, goes to bat for their people. And I just don't feel like Charles and Camilla are, like, going to bat for this predator. They gave up on, like, trying to help him many, many years ago. Even Queen Elizabeth did. She had to, like, sort of boot him out. Yeah, he, like, got moved from house to house. Yeah, and he, like, walks at the very end.

I don't even think he walks anymore. Yeah, and he wound up still in a big house, but it was like he lost his home. Mm-hmm. I think it was a home that they had to like pay for privately, not like a publicly funded situation. He said as this process continues, it would not be right for me to comment further on this matter.

Meanwhile, my family and I will continue in our duty and service to you all. That's beautiful. So he said, I'm still the king. Don't bother me with this mess. Oh, yeah. Like I waited so long for this title. I'm not getting bogged down.

Brother, brother. Brova! You're out. Bravo. Yeah, lock him up. Yeah. I'm curious if he'll go to jail. And it's crazy that like, you know, forwarding an email will get you life in prison.

Again, I'm not complaining. Just like happy worth that, you know? Yeah. Maybe more will come out like with a trial. Maybe. But yes, six unmarked police cars surrounded his residence in Sandringham. I wonder if you know. Are there pictures of him like walking out in cuffs?

There are pictures of like the operation. Nothing like. It's hard to. see but we actually there's like pictures of the cars yeah i wonder if the media stands outside of his home if of his home all the time or if they knew he was getting arrested yeah i feel like based on tv shows like they they know that something big is happening you know and also if they got a tip something big's happening in the royal family like yesterday the day before they would know is epstein related and like andrew because that's what everybody's there's not a lot going on in the family now right

everyone else is laying low they have a lot going on i mean he's really gotten away with so much like We've known. He got, like, booted out, like, years ago. So he's sort of been probably, like, living in fear of something like this happening for, like, five years now. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's a relief for him.

Yeah. Path to healing. Even though I agree, it's, like, not even for what you. Like, I literally don't care that he sent an email. But is there, like, hard evidence? Yeah, it's, like, in the files, right? Of sex crimes in the email. You know, when everything is hot dog pizza.

Right. No, you can explain. You could say I really... It's what's called circumstantial. Yeah. It doesn't hold... No. Yeah.

So it will be... Even the ones that like didn't use the code names, it's all circumstantial. Yeah. And it would be hard to like really nail someone for that. Plus like photos and videos. But yeah, that might be tough to do. Yeah. So ever, that's why the internet's just taking it upon themselves.

I'm looking forward to the wheels of justice doing their thing. Yeah. Really crazy news. I don't know why. I thought he was like done. Done. Done. Like, like.

Publicly just like disgraced. Yeah, I didn't know there were further consequences waiting for him. Yeah. Love that. Love that. You love to see it. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm.

Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 4 trailer dropped. Oh. You didn't see? No. Oh, yeah. Season four trailer dropped. They're talking about... Come, you saint, son.

Come, you sinners. Hallelujah. They're talking about the Bachelorette. Dancing with the stars. Oh, oh, oh. And Harry Jousy makes an appearance. Of course he does. So it's going to be the best season ever.

He makes an appearance like in what capacity. So it kind of the way that they framed it in the trailer, which all trailers are lies, is like he's Taylor's date for an event. Oh, that's cute. Ship? No. So toxic. Beyond toxic. Beyond.

But maybe if like the two most toxic chaotic people in the world got together, maybe they would neutralize each other. Like that's never happened. And when it does, like they temporarily neutralize one another. Like it's not a permanent solution. Maybe they could like out toxic. each other to the point of exhaustion. Maybe they just get so tired they fall asleep together. But anyways, always happy to see Harry Jay around.

I know. If Harry Jousy has zero fans, like check on me because Jackie's passed away. Yeah, and she'll miss her sister. Desperately. So yeah, we're getting Dancing with the Stars. They turn these around quick. Yeah. It does now feel like a little bit behind because now I'm like, what about Chicago?

And I'm really curious like what Whitney's future is on this show because she's kind of like a media darling in New York just so they did a huge. huge piece on her in the cut and how like New York is like so her and she's leaving Utah behind like a lot of sort of messaging I think it would be a huge mistake I think so too I feel like she's getting like all these accolades and stuff from like corners of the world where she never would of if she just stayed on Mormon wives but I I don't know and she continues to do more than I think is possible and I fully support her so it's not like I'm doubting her but it's like I would say what comes after Chicago on Broadway really like you kind of have to go home

right? I don't know. But I could see her proving me wrong. And then she's like... Booking another gig. You know, playing Amber von Tussle. She's so Amber. She's playing Fanny Bryce.

She ain't. She ain't playing Fanny Rice. But do you know what I mean? Like I don't even want to put limitations on her because I think she just continues to like break out of every box. But if it were me, I would be like, okay, it's great to like be able to do all that. But like go back to the home base, do secret lives. and then like dabble in this other world.

But maybe. Because Secret Lives, like, up until this point has been the engine that has fueled her getting on Dancing with the Stars, booking that role. So I know I worry about like, where is she without the engine? But she's kind of defied the odds. Sorry, defied the odds. Of boring. Yeah. Thus far.

Yes. But Chicago and Dancing with the Stars are both like guest things. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it will be very interesting to see what she does next and how she parlays both of those things into like, you know, know the next phase of her career. Because being Roxy in Chicago was like just a stepping stone. Right.

Like Erica Jane has done it. It's not a landing. No. It's a short thing. Even though she announced something yesterday, I was watching with my volume off. What did she say? Let's see.

From my volume being off, I was getting the feeling that it was like she's extending her run. Oh, that would be good. Because like the tickets are expensive. But I'm completely making that up. No. Okay, I'm hearing that. That's not true.

Not. Don't trust me what I watched on mute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No subtitles, nothing. She is on the cover of Brides, as of 23 minutes ago. Brides. Her and Connor. But she's married already.

I guess, like, you can be married. It's the love issue, celebrating stories that feel timeless and of this moment. That's a good choice for brides. I don't know about timeless, but definitely of this moment. And then she did a Sarajev ad. and then she had the thing in the cut. Oh, here, her in Chicago. Secrets out. Hold on.

Let me see it. Let me. Oh, yeah, this. What did she say? It turns out New York wants a little bit more than just a Costco sample. I'm not going anywhere, baby. Right. Officially extending is Roxy Hart in Chicago. I think it's been, I think they have a lot of people come to play the role of Roxy Hart. Like I said, Erica Jane, our Animatics.

And I don't think there's really, I've never seen people like all over my social media being like, can I get a ticket? Oh, they're so expensive. I've seen clips of her like going really viral. So I do think this is, she's probably the most successful Roxy heart. You think that they've plucked from like reality TV, um, influencing who else has played Roxy. Lisa Renee. It's like a, it's like a thing that you do. Yeah. Women who have played Roxy hard on Broadway. I want to say going on Broadway like literally looks like the worst job ever. Like I would never want to. to do it. I understand. But like it's in New York. It's in New York. Yeah. You don't want to do. Alyssa Milano, Rumer Willis. It seems like a lot of dancing at the stars winners. Mira Sorvino. Go play Roxy. And Ashley Graham. Debute as Roxy in 2025. So, Roxy. I've never seen Chicago. Me neither. The name on everybody's lips. Roxy. And all that jazz. So you don't want to play Roxy if they came. No. Like, Do not come to me. Do not come.

Please don't ask her to make that decision. No, no. I will say no. Like, Broadway is backbreaking. Eight shows a week. Like, I'm good. And you make like $3. You don't even get your own dressing room.

I am good. I do not want it. My dream job, as you know, is to be a judge on the voice. That you can come to me with. Oh, that's big. Yeah, because they need a Simon Cowell over there. Would you do it? You want to be loved.

No, and the whole thing about the voice is that if you make it in front of these judges, it's because you're decent. Right. There's no, like, William trash. Yeah. But say you were on a show where like you needed to be the Simon, would you really do it even if it made you like the villain? Yes.

Because I think there, like, Simon was mean. I don't think it's mean to say like you need work. Your pitch, like you were off key. But I love your dress. But Simon was interesting because like he did say it in a very honest way. Yeah, you can be honest, but he was also mean. Was he? You don't have the look.

Like, okay, you just call me fat. It was the singing show. Yeah, like he's crazy like that because he was looking at it like from a full, you know, artist. Yeah, yeah. No, I would just be like, vocally, I don't think this is for you. And I would hate for you to continue wasting your time, like, on this dream that I don't think

is going to stand out. I'm sorry, but that's Paula. Oh, my God. Paula was so not that. It's giving Paula, like, just the sweet, honest, but like. No, but she was like, she would always say, like, come back next year. I would say, like, don't come back. Like, go become a CPA.

Like, this is not for you. Okay. So a blend of, like, Paula and Simon. Yeah. Blend. Okay. Are you ready for our next story, our third story? Yeah, what was the first?

Oh, so, yeah. Secret Lives, sorry. There's a lot going on. The show is so good. It's one of my favorite shows. I can't wait to watch. It comes back. It's crazy that we've gotten like three seasons of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives since the season premiere of Love Thigh Nader. Like, where's Love Thoubred? Season 2. March 12th, it comes back. Right. That's so soon. Well, we started watching love. I guess it was like October that we were watching it, September October. Spring, summer joggers. Just bring it back. Yeah, it feels like any day now. Like, just bring it back. And they also teased the second half of the show. It was already filmed. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It It was already done when they premiered the first half. Like, did the show not do well? Is it getting canceled?

I thought it was a huge, you know, it went number platinum in my house. But even if it's getting canceled, you already filmed it. Like just put it up. It costs you nothing. Like, I need it. No, but just put it up like you already paid for it. Yeah, agreed. Our next story, clearing up some drama between Layton Meester and Ariana Grande.

Layton Meester is defending her awkward exchange with Ari at the Critics Choice Awards and explaining what she thought was going on. So we discussed this red carpet exchange between the two of them. People said, like, Layton was being condescending because Ari was like, oh, my God, I love you. Wow, wow, wow. And then Layton turns to her public was like, wow, wow, wow. And it felt like she was, like, mocking her. But I believe that our take was like, I'm going to trust that Layton, like, wasn't being a bitch and that there was like something lost in translation here.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was a take. Turns out we were. Yes. No, we didn't think. No, and we gave grace because I was like, I don't know. I'm not going to just assume that she's ill intended. Correct. We were right.

How right we were. Happens. I'm like kind of used to it at the same. You know, like. Layton went on pod crushed, which is also... Which I feel like is the big story. Dan Humphrey's podcast, which is crazy that Blair would, like, throw him a bone like that. I don't know.

I feel like at the end, she was like so, like, she loved Dan. She did love Dan. It's kind of a fatal flaw in the end of the show. Yeah. They would never. No. That they dated. Yeah.

And like it was like a real... And it was kind of like right person wrong time, you know? It was like this big, great love. It wasn't just like a hookup. So she was asked about the situation and she cleared up what she thought. thought was happening. So she said, where is this like jump in the article? She said she was with her publicist when Ari said something to her. She didn't, she heard her and then she turned to her publicist Kate and we both heard that, hi, I love you. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Not wow, wow, wow, wow, like crying.

She said, I couldn't hear her. She was like walking away and I was like, oh, she's kind of a comedy queen. She's just being funny. Like I love you. Wow, wow, wow. Like I thought that would be something she would do. And so I was like, oh my God, that's cute and funny. So she just want to say like I'm more confused than ever. I don't be like this clears up anything. Like I still don't believe it was a. Malintended thing, but I don't really understand what she's saying here. So I actually do like first of all,

this happened in a split second. Yeah, no. And like we're studying it. Like I say weird things all the time and I move up with my life. So when someone says something to me and I'm like doing an exchange of cordiality, if you said, well, not you because I would just like, you like punch me in the face. No, no.

we just like we know what we can understand each other yeah we have like a subliminal language if someone else said something to me and I was in passing I might repeat exactly what they said like ah la da da da right you know what I mean so when she thought it was like wow wow wow it's like yeah yeah it looks so good yeah it looks good yeah it's just like how you communicate so she thought she didn't even think because there's not a moment to think here she heard wow wow wow wow I know and sometimes like I really want to be famous and then like I see the level of discourse about like the most nothing moment. Like if that was me,

I don't even know what I say half the time, what I do have the time, who I'm talking to. Like, I'm just trying to, like, get home. You know, I'm always just trying to, like, get home. Especially when you're, like,

in a sea of people, like, saying hi and by. It's probably very stressful, like, gay, regardless. You're just, like, repeating what the person said to you. And that feels... And this person's so famous. Like, I have to...

Like, now you're studying everything I'm saying and, like, probably, like, a very pivotal moment for me. It's like, you look amazing. You look amazing. Like, it's just an echo chamber. The next time I complain about not being famous enough, will you just like slap me in the face? Like, remind me of this.

Yeah, but I do feel like you wouldn't complain about that anymore. Like, I feel like you've moved on. I'm actually really good with where I'm at, yeah. Yeah, the mass singer, like, really healed you. Heard me of ever wanting to be on TV. It healed your inner Claudia. Yeah. Little Claude.

Little turd. So, also says, turns out she didn't say that. But I still want to be a judge on the voice. Layton added that she saw her like the next week and attempted to explain the embarrassing mistake. And she's like, you thought I said, wow, wow, that's so. so funny. Well, what did she say? And wow, wow, wow, because it's Blair. So she was, and then Blaton was like, no, it's an old person not being able to hear. Like, that is so

embarrassing. So I think she's handled this very well. Yeah, I didn't need this clear up. She made it about her being old. So like, what are, what can you say? Did they talk like that gossip girl? Like, not in a meaningful way. But I didn't see it anywhere. This is the headline. Right. So, well, you know, Layton. I have to pry it from our cold dead hands. I know. Like, I kind of prefer to just like vibe with Blair you know like not Layton I prefer to have separate relationships with each of that so I have my relationship with Blair and we're very close yeah and then I have my relationship with Layton and you know wow wow wow and then you have your cousins and then you have your first yeah and I think that's how Layton likes it and that's how Layton sees it I love that are you ready for

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when was being asked about the movie being a boost to her career, not only as an actor, but also as an executive producer. She later admitted that the title is a pure vanity credit. She said, I'm a producer on it and I didn't know until three weeks in. I saw the call sheet and I was like, executive producer. I didn't sign up for that. I called one of the producers and was like, you guys have me on. Is it an executive producer? And he was like, that's what you're. agent negotiated. And I was like, well, this really better be a hit then. It was one of those vanity credits because I didn't do shit to make that movie. I only acted in it. That's the thing about vanity credits. I don't want people to get it twisted. What Margo Robbie does is really intensely

developed movies from jump. I just jumped in, had a bunch of fun and left. And now I'm like, they're sending me on a vacation. Every time I hear Amanda C-free and speak, like, I just, like, I don't know what I mean? I just kind of roll my eyes, you know? I feel like, first of of all, this is like a really poor reflection on her. Like, how little do you know about your business? You don't even know you're an executive producer of a huge movie. And yes, I feel like her saying this like makes other, I'm like, if you're not as media literate, like you would think, oh, like Sidney Sweeney is also,

you know, just like doing, when there are actually a lot of women who take on like very creative roles outside of acting on the movies that they star in. And it's not a vanity credit. Like Cindy Sweeney is one of those girls who I feel like she has a lot to do with the projects she signs on to beyond just acting. She, like, funds a lot of the movies. She's, like, as a production company, she's, like, I think, taking Margot Robbie as a, you know, like, a role model of hers. And then, yes, Margot Robbie.

So I'm glad that she made that distinction, but it's like, okay. Yeah. It does sort of minimize, like, people who are in movies that have executive producer credits. Not a lot of people know about, like, the whole vanity credit thing where it's, like, almost all the time when I'm watching something and there's, like, a big star in it. When the credits roll, it's like executive producer, Kate Gapelette. And it's like, well, I know you to produce. But not a lot of people know that that's, like, a fake title. all. So yeah, kudos to her for being transparent here.

Yeah, I think people would appreciate the transparency. And the point of a vanity credit and, like, having your name as a producer is you make more money, right? If the movie succeeds, then, like, you get like a... And that's a good thing for her agent to negotiate. It sounds like he's a stellar team. Yeah, it is crazy that, like, she wouldn't know that and that she would also share that. And I guess that's what makes her authentic and relatable for those who love her. For the Mingi...

What's her name? For the Minjys. Minji. For the Minji stands. Yeah. Okay. Cool. I've heard housemaid was really good, though.

There are so many things I need to see. I need to see Housemaids. I need to see Wuthering Heights. I heard it was amazing. Wuthering? Yeah, what I'm called. Marty Supreme is on demand now? Is it?

Okay, I'll watch it. I'm actually going to start a watch. You're going to start a content plate? Because I've been meaning. And I just see a lot of movies. Housemaid is on demand. Let's have a movie night. Okay.

Oh, my, I have a really good idea for a movie night. Housemaid. Marty Supreme. Wuthering Heights. Okay. What's your idea? Oh, like for like, I guess have a swirrelly movie night.

I'll tell you about it later. Okay. I'm like scared. It's going to be amazing. Great. Like a pajama party. Great. I love that.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Some more actors being weird news. Oh my God. What now? No, it's weird. Okay. Sophie Turner and Kit. I haven't heard that name in forever.

And Kit Harrington are starring in a movie together where they play lovers. And they said they gagged after kissing each other on screen while making their new horror movie. Because they once played siblings. Because they once played siblings. And I guess they became to feel like siblings while playing siblings while playing siblings on Game of Thrones. So the two actors who grew close playing siblings, Sansa and John Stark on-Dak on-Gyme of Thrones evidently struggled while sharing an on-screen smooch in their new movie, The Dreadful. Oh, I love the title. The Dreadful. In a video shared by entertainment tonight,

they can be seen kissing in character poor, playfully retching after the director calls cut. The crew then can be heard laughing as the two actors are pretending to be sick. So in Vogue last year, Sophie had jokingly said that she's like, apologize to Game of Thrones fans by saying, it's really weird for all of us that her and Kit are playing lovers in a new horror film. She also said she recalled, like, looking at the script for the movie before shooting, she saw nothing but kiss, kiss, kiss, sex, kiss.

I'm like, oh, shoot, that's my brother. Well, I do appreciate any time actors talk about, like, the weirdness of having, and, like, not being like, it's normal. What are you guys talking about? Like, no, it's not. So I do appreciate that here. I do also think, like, that's kind of the curse of being in such a popular show. I can't, we talk about this all the time.

It's almost like a career ending show. Aside from Sophie Turner, who after that, like, did go on to do other things. A lot of them, like, were sort of crippled by the bigness of that show, and you're just, like, stuck as Sonsa, stuck as John. And, like, yeah, this is yucky. And I think it's a big mistake on the casting director's part. But what's also weird is she put him up for this role, she said. She, like, thought he would be really good for it. Whatever happened to the guy who played Rob Stark?

He's in like the bodyguard. Yeah, one show like a million years ago. He's always nominated for shit. No, like he was. When his show comes out, you know shows come out. Jackie, the show hasn't been on in like many years. He did okay for himself. He did fine.

And he was in Cinderella. Mm-hmm. He had a couple of good years. But I don't know, Amelia Clark, where in the world is Daeneris Targary? Well, she did a couple like rom-coms, but she also has had some health issues. Has she? Yeah. Jason Mamoa, like, was barely on the show,

which is why I think he evaded the curse. Mm-hmm. Oh, Nicolage, was in the other woman. He went on to do amazing things. Peter Dinklage, always... Was famous before. Always Slaes. Was famous before.

Yeah. But I think also the sort of things that these actors might be in now, like, you know... We don't watch. Mountbatten. Oh, also, yeah, that... The person who played Prince Philip... No.

the person who played Oh, Charles. Charles The person who played Tywin Lannister. Circe's dad, yeah. Tywin Lannister played yeah, Uncle Mountbatten.

Thank you. But also the person who played Prince Philip. Young Philip is David. The person who killed old Philip. Yeah. Is the guy of the seven septers. You know that like crazy priest.

But of course the seven septer. Shame, right? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Who could forget? Yeah. So I think if you watch more like British timepiece, like, yeah.

You will see your people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. They don't like make swirly romances. No, they don't make swirly romances. So anyways, yeah, this is like weird for the viewers, weird for the actors, even though it's like you guys played brother and sister, but they could have dated on. Just because they were playing siblings. Like, doesn't mean they couldn't have fallen in love.

And did kid Harrington marry that wildling? Yes. In real life. Ross. Ross. Leslie. she was in Downton Abbey

She got out Yeah she did Yeah Like the British world Like they all overlap over there Yeah and you know Who's a part of that world Who?

Joe Alwin Barely please He's a flop That's why you don't see him around If Joel Because he's like He's tucked into those movies I've never seen him in anything

Except the first couple of episodes Of normal people Which I did not enjoy And he was having sex And I said get out of here Conversations with Friends Which was the way worse version of normal people.

Yeah. Joe Owen is not in that crew. What's unfortunate is that this movie like doesn't sound good. Yeah. Because, well, I don't like horror movies. I've never seen one. But like if this was like, and never seen one. I've never seen a horror movie or like a scary movie.

Have I? I think I saw the Grinch. You saw the grudge. You and Margo one time. And like we were terrified for life. I've never seen one. And also I never saw the ring, but I used to do the ring thing. Oh, you love that.

And you all. Who am I? The ring. You also love Here's Johnny. You've never seen The Shining? Nope. It's spooky as fuck. I've never seen it.

That's crazy. And red rum you've seen? That's the Shining. Okay. Yeah, no, I've seen the Shining. You, like, need to watch it. I don't think so. I've made it all this way in my life.

Because I've recently been saying, actually, a lot. Here's, because he goes cross-eyed. Here's Johnny. Do you go cross-side? I didn't get to see. You did a light. light. Okay, you can stop now.

Yeah, no, what I have to just always... No, just go back. Stop. I get you. Just go back. Yeah, so I won't be seeing this, but like, if it was a swirly flick, I would love to watch it. Yeah, my two faves back at it again.

Like, make more swirly flicks. Yeah, and I guess, like, when you come from the world of Game of Thrones, like, you watched Circy and Jamie have sex. You watched DeNaris and John have sex. So, like, incest is very much, like, not a big deal. It's sort of the name of. the game. I'm surprised Sonsa and John never got it on. And they weren't even one of the lady. They were half. Actually, not even half. They were cousins.

Right. Because he was the sisters. He was raised as a sibling. But he was the sisters. Baby. Baby. They're cousins. That's nothing. You're the least big deal ever. You have your cousins. And they were first cousins. And they were first cousins. That's nothing. Nothing. Especially not in Westrose. That's a match made in heaven. In medieval times. That's literally an ideal marriage. Yeah. Did they? Who ended up with whom? In a romantic sense?

Yeah. John, he went... Killed. No, he went north of the wall. And he killed. Oh, no, but who did he end up with? Romantically, nobody. And Sansa?

She's Queen of the North. Single. Single. Very much like matriarch energy. Okay, I love that. She's a single woman. Respect. However, like, who's gonna carry on?

She'll figure it out. Okay. Maybe she'll get a surrogate or something. I don't know. Okay, just I feel like they didn't think that through. Like, all these years are stark... There's still, like, a lot. of time. They always, they emphasize so much there's always been a stock in the north. And now we're

going to end the line now. Did she have a baby at any point in the show? No. She was like very busy. She was like Ramsey Bolton's like prisoner. Yeah. Joffrey. She was like stuck. She was like stuck. She was like. Yeah. No, she had a hard time for sure. I would have hoped she would have found love. That feels like a plot hole. No, it feels like we're just supposed to believe like she ends up with a happy ending. It doesn't matter who. Like she'll figure it out. Okay. Now that there's peace in the realm now that they're and she can focus on things like romance like a dolliance but she's been so burned by what she thought was love oh sansa spoiler alert yeah about that well that's that guys it's just been beautiful to spend this time with you it's been a pleasure a true pleasure

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