The Toast - The House That Stassi Built: Wednesday, August 5th, 2026

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and Happy Hump Day. Don't forget to Hump someone you love and speaking of somebody I love. It's Jacqueline Follet. Clap if you hump. Once a week.

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Let's not get into that show. That show was fucking weird. Welcome back to the show. I hope everybody's doing great. I haven't seen you in a minute. I haven't seen you in a minute. You had a very busy day yesterday. I did.

I drove back to the city, which I have not done yet. I usually go like maybe a couple of times a summer. You know, I had an engagement. A brisk. Yeah, last summer I went back for a brisk. yesterday I went back for like a kind of a catch-up day. Like my apartment, it was a mess, so many boxes. We needed kosher meat.

We were all out of food, so we had to go to the kosher grocery. So Ben and I drove, driving back and forth in one day, like, is really crazy. But we got done everything we needed to get done. Being back in the city was crazy. You know, it's like 20 degrees hotter in the city. I was sweating my ass off the entire time. But we stepped for like a nice little pargy dinner on our way back. We had sushi secchi.

It was kind of like a pargy day. Oh, good. I'm so glad you enjoyed it. Yeah. It was mostly administrative, like getting things done for the home. but, you know, I had to get a little treat in there. Of course. I had a funny story to tell you, actually, that I didn't tell you.

A funny story? Yesterday, Zach and Charlie were out and about. I don't know exactly where they were, and guess who they ran into. Sebastian Mary McLeard. No. Bethany Frankel. No. Kelly Benson.

I don't think you're going to guess because it's like not at the tip of your tongue, but you're going to be. Celebrity? Yeah, but you're going to be excited. Because I was actually thinking we have not seen many celebrities this summer. Every summer we have like a couple of key. Actually, we saw, um, Eli Manning. Yeah, we did.

Like briefly. Mm-hmm. But other than that, it has not been... At lunch over the weekend, actually, I saw the guy running for governor, which, like, wasn't very exciting. Bruce Blakeman. Yeah, but I had to, like, do a lot of work to figure out who it was because I saw Secret Service.

I'm like, someone here, and then, like, Ben overheard someone say that this guy's running for governor. So, it wasn't really that thrilling. Understood. I guess, like, sort of wherever we go, like, were the celebrities. So true. Okay, who did they say? Wait, just give me, like, a little bit of the...

Athlete. Jack, Scott? No. You're someone that you're like you're. Danila Gallinari. No. Jalen Brunson? Close.

Carl Anthony Towns. Close. Josh Hart. Josh Hart. You're kidding. They saw Josh Hart, Zach and Charlie. Oh my God. Did you tell Bad Evil Freed?

No, I didn't because I didn't see you guys last night. Wait, that's so crazy. So crazy. And Zach was like, Charlie, it's a nick and he loves basketball. And Charlie was like excited. And Josh Hart like offered take a picture with Charlie. With Charlie, he didn't want to take a picture. You're fucking serious?

Charlie declined a photo with Josh. I kill him. Wait, what? That's so nice, by the way. So, Zach, like, went up and said, like, hey. Yeah, yeah. And, like, he asked if, like, Charlie could take a picture with him, and then Charlie Declan. Oh, my God, I'm going to kill that kid.

But Josh Hart was really sweet. Oh, I went to where they were. I forget. I will find out. Oh, my God, I killed. You guys didn't tell me this. I know. That's insane.

Isn't that cool? Oh, my God. Ben is going to be so jealous. I know. Oh, my God. That's very exciting. I have to tell Ben, like, where it was so we can know, like, that's where you go. And I just want Josh Hart to know, like, you're a king for offering the photo.

Like, it's on us for declining. For accepting the offer to take, like, but I think it reflects really well on him. Did Zach take one with him? No, nobody. Like, what's wrong with everyone? As far as we know, like, did they even see him? Because they did. Sure, this sounds like a made-up story.

They did see him. Yeah, we've seen, like, no celebrities. I'm trying to think. No, really none. Okay. It's usually going to be okay. I mean, no, it's not. It's going to be okay.

Last summer, when we ran into Sebastian Bear Maclard, like. It sort of, like, made our summer. Kind of was a benchmark of Swirley Summer. Yeah, but speaking of Bethany, we were invited to Influencer Hour at Supermodel Cafe. Unfortunately, we can't make it because it's when we record the podcast. And when we told them that, we thought they would make other accommodations and they didn't seem to care. So I will have to miss out on her cottage cheese tuna salad. But wishing her the best in her future business endeavors.

I will still try and go because I want to eat the supermodel snacks, but I can't go during influencer hour, unfortunately. Yeah. I just, I feel like as an actual supermodel, I don't need the snacks, you know? Because as I said, I'm an active duty model. you are as a retired supermodel I think you still need like what the girls are doing

back in the field yeah so we'll see if we make it out there yes um other than that yeah we missed you yesterday it's hard to be away from my family for so long and Ben was being so crazy like driving you know it's always with Ben like a race against the clock if the car says it's gonna

like the GPS if it says it's gonna take two hours let's say Ben was like classic Ben it says our ETA is 220 he said I'll get you there before too Like he always has a goal in mind. And he will do anything to reach that goal. And he's driven back to the city like twice without me this summer. And I actually shuddered to think what he did because a couple of times I was like, you actually can't do that.

Like I'm all about, you know, cutting off a little of this, a little of that. He's crazy. Like he will drive on the other side of the highway if there's no cars coming. Like seriously? He will drive on the other side of that. One thousand percent. And anything just to shave a minute, like just one minute. And it was actually like a couple of times like a little bit scary.

And he went to the city like two weeks ago by himself And he was like, I made it back in under 90 minutes Which by the way, you guys, it's insane. It's an insane time. And now that I'm thinking about it, I shuddered to think what he had to go through to reach that time. He was being so crazy. That's so crazy.

But I'm glad because you got home at like a very reasonable hour. He did make amazing time both there and back. So like I wasn't really complaining. I was just like shocked. Yeah. I know he's always like a crazy GPS person And he'll do anything to shave him in it. Like he's so fucking crazy.

It was on another level. Okay. Well, last night's warrant. because like you guys needed to get back in the time. It was a long day. Like not at midnight. Of course. It was a long day.

My episode of story time came out. Yes. I hope you all watched and enjoyed it and shared it with your children and listen in the, it's a podcast for kids. So like you can listen in the car with your kids. It's on YouTube so you watch the video. Cute little graphics of like the camper just like running around. They animated the camper.

They animated the camber. It's like high deaf visuals of the book. And it's so great. So cute. You really get to like see the up close details of the book. Yeah. It was really cute. So if you haven't watched it yet.

I didn't know they made like podcasts for children. but I guess like why not. Yeah, that's like how we sometimes in the car listen to stories. It's like a Tony. Yeah. Like sometimes that's for like Paw Patrol story. We're knee deep in Tonyville over here, you guys. Do you guys have this?

We're having a party. A sandwich party. Five, six, seven, eight. I will say not all of the Tonys are great. But like whatever we have, I just like throw it in the playpen and they get played. So they're not like my choice, but it's not my Tony. No, it's for the children. They have like a lot of originals.

In addition to like the characters that you know on. love and I will say like some of the originals like the the songwriting is definitely lacking like sandwich parties I think so much party is an amazing Tony it's not it's like a seagull right the duck yeah it's all about if you meet a seagull at the beach like don't give it your food it's a good message and it's a good song you just sort of popped off with that yeah well my version's obviously like pussy popping and you know my favorite Tony Beethoven's wig Beethoven's wig my favorite Tony is Brown Bear narrated by Gwyneth Paltrow. No, I'm, they get the, the Tony's get, they do get annoying, like when you play them so many

times. And her voice, hers is long and it annoys me the least. No, I'm sorry. Also, shout out the Velvetine Rabbit, narrated by Merrill Street. Yeah, I don't know why you're kind of like, just sort of like starry-eyed for celebrity Tony's. I don't feel. You don't know why?

Because I guess you're like. I'm like a star fucker loser. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. Why you're acting like we just met? Okay. I thought you would be like more.

about the music. No, because for me, like a Tony that's narrated by a celebrity is like a convergence of me and Ruby's interests. I guess, but they're just like not the best one. I disagree. But we also love Maestro.

That's something we can, Hello, music lovers. Yes, there are a lot of good Tonys, but we all just like quote them all day long, but you guys need Beethoven's wig. It's like classical music.

And the guy who like narrates it and he puts lyrics to all these like Beethoven songs, he reminds me so much at the end starling. And even the song you were singing, today do do do do yeah he sings i want my diploma that's funny it's no he also does i've tried to tell you it's funny here's a short beethoven piano piece this piano piece is for release it's all about a fella named maurice who went from greece like it's good it's teaching kids Beethoven but he's funny he does remind me of Ian sterling so funny he has one song about sitting in traffic so you got to get

Beethoven's wig. Yeah. It's just been like a Tony girl summer. It is a Tony. It's a Tony boy summer. Oh, right. All the boys. Right. I forgot. Yeah. All the boys on the ones and twos. What are we doing today? Like we need to come up with party lunch plans. Oh, we were just discussing. I'm so hungry. Well, actually, I watched started House of Stasi last night. Is it a story? We just want to talk about it quickly. I just want to talk about it regularly. I need to hear hear your thoughts. I haven't finished it, but you go. I've watched two episodes so far and like my, and I really have been itching to watch it because I've been seeing so much discourse online and it seems like the sort of subject matter that I would like really find interesting definitely it's not what people

thought it was going to be and it ends up like being like an actual like expose on stasi's life and like all of her relationships both like friends and family that's what i've seen so far so right now and that seems to be like the theme the theme is that like stasi and beau and like their marriage and this and that so like but watching it so far i feel like i don't know how to explain like a little bit different than what I thought I was going to feel watching it. It's definitely, they're shaking up the genre a little bit with like the fourth wall stuff, which like shows have been doing for a while, even in secret lives. Like, we hear the producer questions.

Yeah. And they talk about who's filming, who's not filming. So, like, that's not, like, totally new to me. But, um, I'm seasoned reality TV watcher. It's true. But, um, I thought it was really interesting. And, like, I feel like I miss some stuff having not watched Vanderpump Villa because, like, the first test shoot fight is about.

this fight that Stacey and Boe seem to have had on Vannafump Villa that she won't get his tattooed, his name tattooed on her. Yes, I didn't watch Vanderpump. I didn't watch Vanderpubbilla either. I didn't watch Vanderpubbilla. But there's a lot of stuff also with his sister, Bo's sister, that I'm sort of riding blind on because I didn't watch that. And I know there's a thing about the tattoo, but like I didn't watch it.

They had like this huge fight at the villa that he got a tattoo of his sister's name. He has a lot of tattoos and he will not tattoo Stasi's name on him. And like she flipped out. Like, and then everybody gets pulled into their fight and they all saw. like the side of her that they've never seen before. They were all so scared. Yeah. And then the first like Teshue conversation is like everyone talking about their big feelings

like from that night. But I do feel like I sort of miss that. But yeah, the dynamics I'm like sort of catching up on like the sister. Mm-hmm. It's also crazy that everyone has the same name. I was just saying to you that they sort of changed Taylor Donahue's name for the show to Teddy. And I'm like, I'm shocked because I know where I's Taylor and they're the Taylor's.

Okay. I have to. So I've seen a lot of discourse about this. People being like, it's so weird that they changed her name. And I just want to say they did not change her name. But if they did not change her name. But if they did, I actually would have appreciated that. Of course, the sisters have the same name.

Georgie Georgiana and Taylor and Taylor. Like, yeah. And Bo and Bo. Oh, and Bo and Bo. Everyone has the same name. Let's say that was the case. People need to stop giving them shit for it because it's actually respectful as fuck. But I have to tell you guys, literally five years ago when I was with the Taylor's,

somebody called Taylor Teddy. And I'm like, who's Teddy? And they're like, what are you talking about? Everybody calls Taylor Donahue Teddy. I'm like, no, we don't. Like, I've never called you that in my life. They're like, what are you talking about? Everyone calls Taylor Teddy.

And ever since that day, like Ben started calling her teddy and like sometimes I do too, because it does make it more effective method of communication. And you know what? Everyone really does call her teddy, especially Stasi and Bo. Like whenever I think that the Teddy nickname actually originated with like Taylor's L.A. friends and when she goes to L.A. It's not made up, but it never like hit mainstream. And I think a lot of people are having trouble with it. But even if it was this like methodical thing, like we should be. appreciating that. It's very confusing. Yes, it is confusing. And so I understand why they did that.

Now, it seems like Stasi has, like, made this decision. Like, I've gotten my own show. So many people get their own show just to lose it because, you know, it's fake and it's like not good. And those people don't also have like sort of the backstory that she has, how this is like a big comeback. So this like means a lot to her. Yes. And most shows like aren't good. And it's because like we feel the the manufacturer drama. Oh, we're going to get a pet monkey. And Stasi has like made the decision to bleed out. They are everything about her life, the good, the bad, and the ugly, like for the sake of the The name of their podcast.

The good, the bad, and the bogey. The baby. Oh, his handles the bogey. But they don't do that one anymore, do they? Oh, do they not? I don't think so, because now it's just Stasaw-a-T. Her podcast has evolved over the years. But she's made the decision, like, if you want to, you know, tell me something

mean by myself, do it on camera. Like, I... And there's no conversation that's off-limits. Like, even, you know, her... Even her as a mom, which, like, I would think is a conversation that's, like, completely I haven't like seen some of that stuff yet, but so they start filming the show and it's, you can see like Bo is, like, unhappy a little bit. And he goes to talk to Taylor Strecker and he starts crying.

And then Taylor Strecker goes to Stacey. And like, by the way, Taylor Strucker is just like moving like such a queen. She's making us proud. And she, and you know what? I feel that like who she is in real life is actually translating really, um, honestly. And like, I think she's getting a lot of. because she's talking about how like, you know, Taylor Donnie who has to go back to New York. I haven't gotten there yet.

But like she's weighing, missing the birth of her daughter. And I just want to say, every time I see a clip, I like make a judgment. And then when I see it in the context of the show, I just, everything feels different. I just like, I feel different watching the show, even like Katie and Stasi, which remind me I want to get back to that. So Taylor goes to Stasi and says, like, your husband cried to me. And Stasi is floored. Yeah. She didn't know her husband was unhappy that he was thinking anything.

That he felt this way. That he never once really said to her recently, like, I do want to say. go back to work. And so she says, like, of course, like having an unhappy husband, like, this isn't really a great time. Like, we're filming a show. Of course. But we've already started filming. So, like, you know, here we go. Like, let's get into all of it. And I really can't imagine a world where, like, Bo would not. Would ambush Stasi. Consoled Stasi and be like, we're going to talk about this. Yeah. Or that she truly had zero clue. That he's not super happy. Or just like the dynamic that they've set up where he is like a state.

at home dad isn't working for him. Like this is the first time you're hearing that. No, but it does make very interesting. And I will say like, yeah, she's going where really nobody is going. Because a lot of these conversations are so private. She's going where no one has gone before, like, for a reason. Yeah. There's a reason why no one has gone there before.

It's so personal. But I think it's also like a testament to how strong she believes her relationship is that they can get, that they can withstand this. They can have their like ugly wartsall conversations on the show. But like there's no doubting that they would. will be together. So I think it's also a sign of strength. It's confusing.

Yeah. For me, it's just confusing because, like, before, I know, like, she has this need to come back, right?

Like, she was the queen of Anna promul's and it got taken from her. Like, the fact that she's coming back now with her own show on, like a bigger platform. Like,

it's such a sleigh. I totally get it. But to me, it's like she's bleeding out, sharing, like, so many dark parts of her life and just like private things that she really doesn't have to

because she had made a successful comeback in my eyes before this. The podcast is huge. It's on Netflix. people just love her, her books. I think she's written two since she left Vanderpump Rules. She has three books total all bestsellers. She's just like, she's just that girl.

Like you honestly, they were never going to keep her down, right? So to me she has had like an insanely successful comeback already. I can't really understand why like you would want to now open up all these like just so, no, everyone's judging like her as a mom and her as a wife and her as a friend. And it's like, I know she wants it so bad. So like I respect it. But like I could never imagine like successfully coming back. And, like, to me, like, that would have just been enough.

Yeah. But I guess she has this, like, insane itch for reality TV. Because that's really how she got her start. Yeah. And, like, for her, that's, like, the peak of the mountain is, like, being on TV, having your own show is the peak. Having a, getting a spin-off, like, from Vanner Pump rules. And so I understand why that's what she wanted. And now that she has it, she's not going to lose it.

Because, like, people get shows often, and they amount to not much. But she's not going to, I think they already have a season two. She's giving the show, like, absolutely everything that she has. I also want to say, I think the title is, like the name of the show is so perfect. Yeah. Like seriously, Toasty Lions.

Yeah. Of course we know she loves Game of Thrones, House of Stasi. But everyone's like living in her house. Everyone orbits around her. It is like the House of Stasi. I also don't understand how she has this huge house and her. And her two sisters are living with her,

the Georgie and Georgina. And they're both like sleeping in a Murphy bed in what looks to be like an office in the basement. There is not another bedroom in this huge house. I guess not. No, but there has been there. No, no. Wait, can you just,

you said you wanted to talk about Katie. So I was like, I roll Katie and Tassie and they build it as the fact that like, you know, there's nothing like Katie and Stacey on TV together. Right. Whereas like I more so come from the camp of like there's nothing like Stasi on TV together. Katie like never moved the needle for me. Same. Same. That's exactly how I felt. I'm like I don't need Katie. I don't need this like tie back to Vanderpump to like make this work for me. However, like I don't know Katie just like she like look good, she felt good. She talked good. clear that Katie is in a happy place in her life. And that is coming through like all facets.

I think she's in a really good relationship. And I think that like Vanterpomber rule's ending for a lot of people was like devastating. For her, it was kind of like the best thing it got her away from Tom. And I think we were used to seeing her for like the last decade on TV. Like she was just an unhappy person. She was in a bad marriage. Like they were having a lot of problems.

So yes, it is, she's not as like Fabisina as we remember her. No, but she does. She's like a different, you know, vibe. She's not swirling. Like she's her. No, she's not swirling. Sort of energy. But I don't know.

She felt very solid. And I was like happy to see her. They were sort of like talking about the time in between Stasi getting fired and then them stopping being friends. And the way that Stasi described it, it's like tea, you know? Because she was like, she sort of felt like, Katie was always talking about Vanbram pump. And it's like, I was fired and I want to be there and I can't be there. And like, you're just over here being like, oh, my God, didn't see this and that.

And she was like, I was crying to you about postpartum stuff. And you're just like talking about Vanderpunner Pump. Kate didn't even remember that conversation and Stasi's like that's the point like you weren't listening. And I do think at that time like those two people can't be friends. Just different places. But then I think once you and they said it's actually good that we weren't friends for a while because we both got to like grow and become who we are. And like these two like mature whole women can be friends with one another. You know, Stasi's done a lot of press, but she did not do Watch What Happens Live.

And I don't believe that since leaving she's been on Watch What Happens Live. But like Kristen had been on before she was on the Valley. Like she eventually like, you know, came back into the fold. I do wonder like what the relationship is like. They were, they did like a huge press day at Sirius XM because Taylor's tracker was like freaking out. And they didn't do radio Andy. I do feel like there is bad blood between Bravo proper and Andy or excuse me and Stasi

and the show. Probably. They don't use footage from Banner Pump rules. Everything that's like talking about Stasi's like come up is all photos. I mean she did like leave NBC and now she's in the Disney family. Bravo, like, has historically, like, let go of so many people that they, like, oh, it's so insurious. Like, they just bring them back.

They, like, you know, fire them because the fans are mad or, like, there's, like, you know, lots of drama. But they always come back. But they don't have, like, the secret live stars on Watch Drive and Zline's Live. You know, I think it's more so network drama versus, like, Stasi versus Bravo. Yeah, but up until, even before Stasi was, like, a Hulu swirly, she was not on Watcheram's when she was promoting her tour or her books or. Yeah.

I just think it's interesting. I would love to know, like, there's definitely drama there. Yeah. Also, then there was like a conversation about Sheena. She's come up a couple times. And like, it's actually crazy to me that Sheena is actually Stasi's op in real life. Yes. That the name Sheena even still comes out of her mouth. I thought it was just like an old co-worker that she doesn't like. I mean, we all forget that like, remember that storyline when Stasi had, I don't know if it was like a sex tape or like nude photos. Like she was like the one showing it to everyone like not leaking it. But like allegedly she was the one who was like sending it around. So it's like yeah, that's your op for fucking life. Yeah. But like when Jesse Draper comes in is like, see who tried to get on secret lives. I'm like, Sheena. I know. I didn't like. I didn't like. Why are we talking about she? Like, why are we giggling, snickering that Sheena? I have, like,

we have our own show now. Why are we talking about Sheena? I have conflict conflicted feelings about because, like, yeah, it's, like, funny. Everyone's always, like, making fun. I really, but I actually do feel like she's, like, a, like, she has grown up, and she's, like, a sweet girl.

And I think she's always the butt of the joke. So when Jesse Draper came on, I was just, like, kind of like, I kind of hated that. Yeah, I didn't love it. And I feel like Jesse Draper was just, like, saying it because it's, it's like a joke now. like there's a tsunami in Africa and people are like well what does shena she think it's like a joke that she makes everything about herself and i just feel like jesse draper was just kind of like

like like hopping on the train of like making fun of sheena and just kind of felt like low like i feel like like stasi has a legitimate gripe with china and if she wants to talk about her on her show like go for it but like jessie draper just bringing that i didn't love yeah i just didn't know why we were talking about china like we've come so far and like we're so high up yeah we're so high up um and then there's also this theme that like stasi and beau are kind of on the outs with everyone in their life. Like Georgie the sister, Rob, Bo's friend Rob. And it's like they're starting the show and they want these people on the show.

And Katie, she was on the outs with. And so it's like, we want to mend so that you'll be on our show. And also like where, like what happened to all your friendships and relationships? And I do want to say like when you're a parent of young children, like those sort of, it's not a priority. They cool off for a period. But not to a point where like you need to have like, you know, a conversation.

Reproche-moise. It's just like a matter of timing and logistics. So it's odd to me that sort of. everyone's been sort of pushed away. Oh, wait. Can we talk about Christina Kelly? I haven't really seen her yet. Yeah.

I, like, I have one memory of Christina Kelly on Vanderpump roles because she was like a very much a side character. And I think that's even like an overestimation of her contributions to the show. And the one scene I remember is like when she was getting married, she wasn't invited. And she's like sitting at her house giggling, like making fun of Gina's dress. It was like truly the definition of mean girl. And I have never been able to see her as anything other than that. I think the whole world feels that way because she had come on the show so many other. other times in the future, like, and never was a cast member, never was chosen by Bravo.

Like, I think everybody when she goes for Q score testing is like the cropped up. Yeah, the crop top. And I think that's like sort of an underlying thing of her beef with Katie is like, she's almost like 50 feet from stardom. Like she can't quite get there. And I think that this show was like, you know, to be on it as a cast member. Like, finally, I'm going to get my shot. And then Katie comes.

And it just sort of demotes her because like, yeah, Christina Kelly was like the one remaining link from Vanderpump Rules. But it's hardly a link. she was barely on the show. Katie coming on just really eradicated the need for Christina in general. Except that Christina is actually Stacey's friend. Yes. And there's like history there and they have interesting like arguments and stuff because they have a real friendship. But I just, she doesn't do it for me. Yeah. So my takeaway at this moment is just a shock that someone is willing to share this much like personal details of their life, their family, their friendships, their children, their everything.

Family dynamics, like everything like in service of success. Yeah. I think though that like becoming like the female the breadwinner in your house as a woman like I think maybe not on the exact same level but I think it's kind of a relatable thing for some women who are the breadwinners where like their husbands like don't know what to do with themselves and like it's obviously like the whole male ego gender stereotype type thing but then it's also it's like well it's lovely that you want to go back to work but like why wouldn't you take care of the kids I'm not going to like I'm the one paying all the bills so it's like it's very harsh she like says to him I will pay you to not go back to work because I can pay you more than your job.

And I just want to say, like, well, I love a man who wants to work. Like, I think that that's good and all men should work all the time. Like, his obsession with going back into casting when, like, you could work with Sassie. Like, you, and it would be so much more financially fruitful than going into casting, which, like, I don't think he was, like, slaying at before. No, he said he was. He had a 17-year career. Sorry, compared to, I'm talking money.

Yeah. Compared to Sassie, like, because we're at a different level now. So it's like at some point it's opportunity cost, right? It's like great that you feel good, but at what cost? So that was like, it's like, it's like, it's sort of in its own way relatable to other women who are the breadwinners. Yes. And it's funny because she goes to an unwell event and she's like talking to Alex Cooper. And she was just like, you know, they're complimenting each other at whatever.

And then she was like, where, what areas in your life are you struggling? Because like I'm a bad wife. I'm a bad friend. I'm a bad sister. Like what areas suffer for you? That's really funny. And Alex was like, you know, it's giving like, I have bad breath in the morning. Yeah, right.

But also like Alex is notoriously, like she doesn't really share. So it's like I'm certainly not going to share on your show. What's wrong with my life? She said that she has health issues. Like her health. She does have gestational diabetes. Did you say? In her pregnancy.

But maybe it's like she gets sick a lot. You know, like low immune system. Or maybe like so hard immune. But yeah, it was like, it was just sort of funny because obviously she's not going to tell us right now, right here. Or at all. This idea that like something always has to suffer. Right. Which I think is true for a.

lot of working women. Something always has to suffer at the altar of greatness. You know, I think if you want to, like, say yes to everything in your career, things at home will suffer. Yes. Something is going to suffer if you say yes to everything in this bucket, you know, if you want to have a more balanced life, you take some things out of that bucket and you put them into other buckets. But if you're going, going, going the way that like Alex is and that Stasi is, something will suffer. Alex at that point did not have children. So, you know, you have a little, It's a different game. You have a lot more, not even a little more.

You have complete focus. Yep. Your husband works with you. You guys, so you're spending all that time together. It's different. Yeah. But it was just funny. Like, what's suffering for you today?

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No, I mean Taylor. Okay. I need Taylor. Our first story, crazy, crazy saga last night. Perez Hilton was rushed to the hospital after live streaming an apparent self-harming video in his Miami home. So last night, Perez Hilton went live on TikTok for about 30 minutes. Which he does like all the time. That's like his new, for a while now.

Like he's like a TikToker. Yeah. And it was about 30 minutes. He was naked and... Covered in blood. Cutting himself up with a knife. And he had like a literally like a sourdough knife, like a bread knife. Slicing himself.

I saw the video. He was chopping himself up. Don't go looking for it. It's deeply graphic and like very disturbing. I believe like police were called to his home. Yes. They received multiple calls of an individual live streaming acts of self-harm on social media. When the, like he said, called the cops.

I want them to, you know, shoot me dead. Yeah, he was really... And then he was really... And then he was. he was taken to the hospital where he is now recovering. Yeah. I didn't, I saw like a little bit of the. It's really, it's gross.

Like the photos, or like the videos that I saw were like very blurry. So it's like you got the idea of like what it is, but I don't need to see that all up close. Um, I hope that, you know, like people are giving,

you know, grace and like this is a person who has, you know, at people's worst moments like, gone so low. Mm-hmm. I think, like, people, like, his worst, people always love to bring up Bernie Spears, like, when she was having her. Like, there are so many.

And so, you know, I, I hope he doesn't, you know, receive from people what he has historically get out. This is a very hard topic to discuss, honestly, if I'm being serious, like, this is a person who's just, like, caused so much hurt, myself included. Yeah, an awful person. He is an awful person, but, like, awful people, like, don't deserve to, like, you know, struggle. I don't, honestly, seriously, I don't know what to say. Yeah. I wish him the best, and I hope he gets the recovery that he.

He needs, he is a dad. He has three kids. And like that's really like the priority and that's scary. But like, yeah, I had read the kids were not home at the time, which thank God. Because I, I mean, people were watching this millions mile away scared. Imagine like seeing. Yeah, in person. I actually can't even imagine.

So thank God that they were not there. I hope he gets help he needs. I think like public life is bad for him. I think it's been bad for a while. Whatever led to this is addressed as well. Yes. Like just I really just wish you the best. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I agree. This next story is really exciting news And I just am really excited for you Okay The voice Celebrity Edition has been greenlit at NBC

So the voice is currently in production Don't even start with me On the voice celebrity Which will see actors, musicians, influencers, athletes, comedians I actually know someone who's on it Who? I don't know if I can say it And reality TV stars competing instead of undiscovered talent So it's like the voice show except instead of

you know, undiscovered talent. It's people like perfect. Yeah, it's a good casting. It's people like the person she just told me and people like Claudia. It's people like Claudia. I just want to say, I have not been reached out to.

Do not come. Don't you guys. Don't ask me because I'm going to feel like I have to do it. And I really don't want to. Like Mike, I'm good. I love this concept. I love when like traditional shows do celebrity versions, like Celebrity Family Viewed.

And there are a lot of celebrities. Like, I guess if you're an actor or whatever, like you're a theater kid so like almost all of them sing or you're like comfortable being on camera like remi bader has a really good voice i think Alex cooper has a really good voice she does i i think i'm maybe the only one in this field who doesn't have a good voice taylor strecker has an amazing voice do you know that about her no oh my god she's an insane voice by the way it makes complete sense like you're a theater kid like you've always like the spotlight because you've always like been good for the spotlight because you have a nice voice and then you know being a pop star or a

actress doesn't work out for you and it's like, pass me the mic. Press record. Yeah. I love this concept. I'm so curious who they're going to cast. I hope this becomes like a dancing with the stars type of thing. Like I love shows like this. Like where it just becomes a place for like actors on their way up on their way down.

Reality TV influencers like just another place like traitors or dancing with stars. So I love it. I wonder if they're exclusively going to be casting good singers because I feel like with the mass singer that was their goal. But then like eventually you run out of people who can see. sing and you start casting like Teddy Malenka. So the voice in general does not cast bad singers. There's never like a dud.

It's just there might not be amazing. But most of the time someone does turn, it's not meant to like expose people who can't sing. So I think it will be people who can carry a tune. I, like let me tell you I'll be sad. Like I love this. I love it too. I love it as a few where I would like,

I think it's such a good idea. Yeah. Maybe Ben could do it. Ben actually has a fine singing voice. Yeah, you know he'll audition with you. raise me up. He always starts in the wrong key. He's like, when I am down.

And actually, when he gets going, it's very powerful. Okay, maybe this will change things for you. Have they announced any of the contestants? One of the coaches will be Joe Jonas. Oh, yeah. That's not going to change it for me. Queen Latifah, like, yeah, if I can be guaranteed to be on Queen Latifah's team. And Riley Green.

Is it like the voice where you go and like, what if nobody turns for you? Yeah. Oh, I can't. No, I would never. Yeah. You have such a fear of rejection when it comes to singing. Yeah. That's why I had to bow out of a mass singer before I don't eliminate it.

But if you wanted to, like, be close with Joe Jonas, like, now's your time. Yeah, but I would be taking the process seriously when I feel like who could actually help me musically. Like, it's Queen Latifah. We have similar voices. Mm-hmm. And then also. Because I'm big blonde and beautiful. Also major voice news is that Kiki Palmer will be the new host of the voice.

Oh my God. I saw that Carson Daley was backing out, but they were clickbaiting me on the Today Show Instagram. tap the link in our bio to find out who's replacing and so obviously i didn't so i never was able to find out well here you go that's such great news wait i'm so happy yeah even though like the voice is not about the host like not at all i i didn't really barely remembered that it's carson daily so i just and that's how you know he's doing a good job yeah because like a host is just like the background um so i kind of like would like her to be somewhere more where it's what it is about her but yeah but anything that keeps her booked and busy that's good you know because i don't want her to get like

you know when you're bored then you like rely on your man a lot and it could be bad for a relationship so hopefully if she stays booked and busy like Sean and her just like or maybe this like brings her to L.A. And maybe Sean's in L.A. because she was previously in New York. I saw this and I wasn't sure. I was like I wasn't sure if those guest celebrity judges were the judges for the new season of the regular voice. It's very confusing. I'm like really trying to understand the article. What's the show called? The voice celebrity.

I feel like they could have done better with that. Yeah. I'm very excited. I agree. It's like another tier of shows that. Yeah. Traders Dancing with a Star. It's like for people to just go on to keep there.

But like mass singer. But like mass singer is flawed in the sense that like you don't get the press until you're done. Of course. No. It's like you're working so hard on TV and nobody knows it too. You do this whole show. Which is like could we make the clues really obvious?

So like everybody knows that it's me. You do this whole show and your name's on the paper once. Until the end. Until the end. And then you're gone. And the headline is all about you quitting. Like this I actually think is. like a better format.

Agreed. I completely agree. I'm not doing it. And if I were, here's how I would audition. What would I audition? They could just watch me on the matter. You could do unstoppable. I like that song for you. I could. Yeah, I don't want to sing right now. Oh, she's shy. But also, hopefully this show was very successful and maybe in like 10 years when

you're ready for it. Right. When everyone's grown and I'm ready to take on new projects. Yeah. Then you could do it and it would be like a big success. I just want to say like good job to everyone who did this. I love it. I hope the casting is like on point. Even some of the people, Remy Bader should be on it. She's a very good, like,

I want them to include, people are so afraid of like casting influencers. Like, no, we love that. Like, give us more. Yeah,

like athletes, that's fun. Yeah, it's fun, but like they can never sing. So, yeah. They have to do,

like, yeah, they have to pull from all pockets of media. So yeah, give us an athlete. Some real housewives. Oh,

I'm sure we'll get. Candy Burris is on there. Well, she's a, no, not candy bars. We'll get like Luam. Okay.

Did you see that they had that Real Housewives like 20th year anniversary party last night? Yeah. Luan is so funny. Our friend Kristen was there. I was watching her Instagram stories and Luan is just like seriously singing her own song to a crowd of three people.

They all were. Lisa Marlo was singing Baby Gorgeous. And let me tell you, Portia was singing Baby Gorgeous with Lisa Barlow just like being a supportive background dancer. And she knew every word. I actually was like very touched by that. That's very sweet.

Yeah. Not just, I only know the first three words. You're just baby gorgeous. Four words. I think Baby Gorgeous is like a hyphen. Well, I can't wait to watch. I can't wait to watch. When does it premiere fall?

Probably. I don't know if it's this fall, but I guess why not. Is it live? Like, we're all voting live. No. It's the same format as the voice. The voice is live. Oh, really?

The auditions are pre-taped, and then when they have like the top 20, we vote every week like American Idol. Okay. There will be new features, though, in this one such as voice boot camp, which will give viewers a behind-the-scenes look is celebrities prepare for their blind auditions.

Okay, cute. We get more like celebrity packages. Well, the VIP room will bring the artists together to watch their fellow celebrities take. So it's like, no, I'm so sad for this. Yeah, me too. I'm excited. Yeah, me too. Okay.

Are you ready for our next story? One number? Three. Yeah. Brittany Cartwright is finally weighing in on Jackson Taylor's publicist romance with a scathing takedown. So Britney Cartwright did a video with People magazine. And she talked about the relationship.

She said, I never wish bad for anybody, but they have to be absolutely miserable. And I hope they are. She said, I don't wish bad on anybody, but I hope they're miserable. I feel like I was taken advantage of by those two individuals. And it is sick. Later in the video, she labeled him a narcissist who doesn't have feelings. And claim that he had straight up told an unnamed person that he had slept with Lori. She said, I've never seen a snake like this before in my entire life, seemingly referring to Lori, KPR.

Yeah, I mean, like I hate to. put more blame on the woman. But, like, Jackson, her are divorced. He's been a piece of shit. Like, we know that he was so awful abusive to her. Like, my bar for expectations for Jacks when it comes to, like, giving Britney, like, a modicum of respect, he almost let her get evicted from the house with their son.

Like, he's a piece of shit. But, like, this working woman who was still, like, actively collecting checks from Brittany, that's insane. Yeah. And that she would tarnish her name so thoroughly. Because she has other clients. Of course. She's, like, in a big publicist.

And then do you see this smart water thing? I did see the smart water thing. So Jacks Taylor had posted an Instagram ad for smart water, the water brand. And then he went on his Twitter claiming that his Instagram was hacked by an AI company. No, so he posted an ad for smart water and people were like, you're not doing ads for smart water. It's like a really top tier brand. Yeah, of course. I think smart water like might have even said something.

And then he shared like he got sort of catfished by a marketing company. He shared the screenshots of the emails and, like all the stuff to say that like he thought he was doing an ad for smart water and he was fooled it was not a prank but just scam but i have a couple key questions but wait also people then notice that that screenshot he shared of the fake email he got was um like generated by ai it had like an ai logo in the corner like he had asked ai to make it for him or oh he had asked ai to make it for him or like someone AI sent it now. So you don't, you can't see it. Interesting.

Yeah, that's what I had heard. Okay, well, a couple things. Like, one, you're dating a publicist. Like, if this is like a fishing scam, like, the fact that she couldn't see through it, like doesn't really speak highly. Correct. Of her work. Two, like, did they pay you, you know?

Yeah, I'm not sure. That was funny. Yeah, but then he was like... That's what you have to remember. Like, a lot of the people from Vanderbrials are, like, over 40 years old. Yeah. Oh, you mean, like, that there's... This is like, boom.

were behavior. I guess. And then he was like saying about Britney like because Britney went on and like laughed at him about it. Good. And he was like, you know, she's not mean enough to him, honestly. She's not. Him like letting the mortgage payments pile up and like forcing Britney to live in the Airbnb with Cruz while he's lapping it up with girls in their family home. Like trash. Yeah. Trash behavior. Yeah. But I do think like for him, all chickens have come home to roost really. Like you think like his, He has felt the consequences of his actions have finally caught up in some sort of way. He's no longer on the show.

That was a huge loss for him. He's not getting brand deals. No. All he has now is a girlfriend. Cameo and a dream. And a girlfriend. I mean, it's like, she's a good woman in your life. Yeah, but like if she can't earn a living either.

Right, right. But over the years, they've made so much money. I was thinking about that with Katie Maloney too because on the one. Those OG castmates. She's asking you to come, like, be on her show and you're acting like, I just got away from reality TV. like I can't go back. It's like if you're a reality TV star and influencer or a notable person like that's a dream is to be on a show.

Yeah. And how are you affording to like not work? Yeah. But she made a lot of money over there. Did she spend a lot of money? So those like OG Vanderpump castmates like Sheena towards the end we're making so much money and they never like lived insane lives.

A lot of them were like living in those apartments up until like three years ago. And they got like homes in the valley but. And that was like after they had been making a lot of money for a long time. And I think like mortgage rates were low. Yeah, I do think like it runs out quickly. But I don't think Katie Maloney's in a place where she's like desperate yet, but she would be silly to turn it down. Yeah, I wonder if she like saved her money over the years because if she did, she has a lot of money. Well, they had that house, right?

Her and Tom. Yeah. They sold it? Yeah. They definitely did well on that house. They did fine. They definitely didn't lose money. And again, it was like low mortgage rate.

That's why what was also so crazy about Jackson Brittany when he was like, she was saying he didn't pay the mortgage or whatever. but they bought their houses like seriously like 2% interest rates so I'm like how much could your mortgage be right but then it turned out he had taken out second and third mortgages to pay off old debts their mortgage payment was up to like $18,000 a month when it should have been like 2,000 max oh my god that's terrible yeah does she still live in that house or did they sell it I don't know I feel like she lives there I feel like she lives there and also like for the valley and everything yeah right she has to be in the valley but they were like such in a good financial position that he totally fucking swaned

Hate. Kind of like deer toasters yesterday. Yeah. Sort of, but no, this is worse. Yes, this is worse. So, yeah. I don't know how to end the stories anymore. I feel that that's a real issue for many Americans.

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They were spotted wearing matching wedding rings. Sources are saying it's a declaration of their love, but Daily Mail is saying like they got married last month. Like, I don't care. These two as a couple, like, do nothing for me. I also think that like this is what you do like when people care about your relationship

so much that you get no privacy Tom Holland and Zendaya like if they ever were planning an actual wedding it would be like seriously people are so obsessed with them it would be like Taylor Swift and Travis like the hiding the drones nobody cares about Bradley Cooper and like DJAD getting married

like you want to get married go have a wedding no one's coming like so I think that this is like kind of for attention you think so I don't think they want attention no I think they do I don't know I think I guess they're married I personally, like never, kind of how like with Christina Kelly,

the only thing I can remember about her is that really mean things she said about Chinochet, to me, the only thing I can really, like, I never moved on from the restaurant of him doing that movie. Like, Maestro, when he was just like trying so hard to win an Oscar and like, nobody cared. And they also wore the fake nose, which was just like loki anti-somatic. But like, listen, I wasn't that upset. Like, I just, to me, that made him a loser in my eyes. And I never was able to see him as anything other than that, as a loser. I guess.

I just sort of, like, expected that he'd be like this sort of guy who, you know, know have relationships different relationships. Yeah, because he always has like a relationship that seems good like Irina and Suki. And now he's like straight up wearing a wedding ring, which I think like getting a wedding ring on a guy like this like is a big deal. An impossible feat. So he's not doing it like for vibes because I don't think he wants to be wearing it. That's actually a good point. Like his bachelor status that does make this a big deal.

Yeah. Like seriously I wish I'm the best. Like I don't know. They just, there are a couple of people like when we talk about like Kim and Lewis Hamilton. Like I should care. Like obviously Bradley Cooper is finally married. oh my God, hearts are breaking everywhere. I don't care.

Yeah. Something just don't move the needle for me. Yeah. Heart rate remains resting. I agree. But they have been together for a while. So if you want to go ahead and get married, like that seems like the thing to do. And I just like this co-parenting group is going to be a lot because it's Bradley and.

Irene. Irene. Zane. It just feels anywhere Zane is, it just feels like drama. Hopefully he doesn't push Bradley Cooper's mother down the stairs. Hopefully he doesn't. Then like Lady Gaga. you know lady gaga right like it's just kind of a crazy group yeah and i'm wishing them all the

best yeah agreed one of the best times of my life was when we had to like report for that week like every new detail that was coming out about the alleged elder abuse from zaid malick and yolanda hadid yeah and then jude you got back together with him one more time after that right i think so that's crazy to like lay with the man who pushed your mom down the stairs he's accused of elder abuse yeah There are some egregious things to be accused of. That is up there. Elgin abuse is up there with like the worst. Yeah.

Like pedophilia. Mm-hmm. And child abuse. Yeah. Because it's like preying on the vulnerable, you know? Yeah, of course. Those who can't defend themselves. Absolutely.

Yeah. Quarterly reminder that he was accused of that. Just quarterly. Are you ready for a fifth and final story? I am. Chloe Kardashian's new show The Girls get to trailer and a premiere date at Hulu. So we knew that Chloe was producing a show called The Girls about her best friend. The girls we all know who have like 3 million followers

They're always with the Kardashians Yeah they all have like kids around the same age So it's Nat and Liv Malika and Kedija and Iris Who is a close friend of Kylie So who's now like really in the group But she also has a child so I think they're all like the moms They say like the trailer was basically like there's like this divide amongst the group That like Nat Live and Natalie are like this trio

Nat live and Nicole are like this trio And Nicole William's English who's on the cover And then Malika Khadija and Iris are like this other like trio and it's just sort of like making it difficult to be in the group. But it's like, well, it sounds like you just have two groups. Like, why do we have to be one? And also, like it's very much sounds like like the home friends versus the college friends. Because Malika Khadija and Iris are like the home friends.

They're especially Malik and Khadija have been there forever. And Nat and Nicole are newer friends. I know we're like meant to believe that they've always been friends. But when at this point it's been a while, but compared to Malik and Khadija. But when Natlip and Nicole were filming Wags. They did not know the Kardashians. They were not friends with the Kardashians. It was not until later.

So it's, yeah, it's your college friends versus your high school friends, and you're trying to make one big group. Yeah, and like Chloe's role up until I saw the trailer to me was just like a producer and like in name only, but she is like on the show and it's almost acting like very cavaliery where it's like she's the boss and she's

coming to like check how the employees are doing. It's giving house of Chloe. Yeah, I'm not going to lie, like not to be a hater. I'm not watching this. No, and to me this feels like a show that won't succeed because it feels fake. It feels fake manufactured drama, which was the exact thing Stasi is trying to avoid. So say what you want, but she did that successfully.

She is doing that successfully. And this just feels like, oh, I don't like you looked at me funny. Like, we don't really get along. And it's like why? You guys all like the same things and the same people. It's kind of like that episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashians where like they had the push trip and that girl, Sarah, who was like vaping, like started drama with one of the sisters.

With Larsa? Yeah, yeah. So fucking real. Yeah. Like that's what it sounds like, but just like a whole show. This show needs Larsa. Well, you know, she's on the outs. I know, but she is the girls.

She's the OG. But these are also Chloe's friends because Sarah's Courtney's friend. Yes. Larson was... I thought these girls were like Kim's friends. I thought Matt and Liv were like... But now Chloe and Kim do everything together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm wondering like, it's interesting. Kim is not involved in this project. Kim was like in the trailer on FaceTime for a second. Oh, was she? Yeah, but this is also her group of friends. I just think it's going to be, there's not going to be like that much substance. And I'm going to say something like genuinely so mean. Like so, so, so mean.

But like these are six women. who have never had a problem with a platform, right? Like, they're getting blasted all the time by the Kardashians. Like, they have millions of followers. And, like, people just, like, don't care. Like, I think that if any of them was, like, a major star, like, that would have happened already. Do you know what I mean?

They're just, like, sort of Instagram girls. They had Wags, which I think, like, wasn't appreciated in its time, but it's fine. They had Nat and Liv. They had their own show, Natalie and Olivia and Cadija. I think Malik and Khadija had their own show, too. And it's just, like, nothing sticks because they're just kind of, this is going to be so mean. They're just like permanent supporting characters.

No, not just a face. But they just, some people are main characters and some people are supporting characters. And so I think like a whole show of supporting characters. Like six supporting characters is not equal one main character. Yeah. Unless there's a breakout star. We'll see. But like wouldn't they have broken out by now?

That's what I mean. It's not for a lack of TV shows and opportunities. All of these girls have been on keeping up. And all of these girls are extremely media savvy at this point. No one's actually going to risk something, risk looking bad, saying something unpopular. No. So I don't think this has the makings, unfortunately. Yeah, but like I respect to what they try everything.

The problem is the show is made for me. I know. Well, that's perfect. That's how you know it's going to be bad. No, and the show is made for me. Like, in a lab, they said, who is the target demo for the show? It's her. And I'm saying, like, I fear for the interest.

Well, you know, it just depends when it comes out. Like, is there a dearth of things to watch? Like, you know, is it slow? it's like maybe no there's learning I guess and for me to like watch something there has to be some buzz there has to be some intrigue clips going viral about conversations or topics that I find personally interesting so I'll wait and see yeah I honestly feel like the reaction to house of Stasi has been so good for its viewership because like of course it was press and people were going to watch it regardless but it's but like it's really buzzy like everyone's there's so many clips going viral and just like things that are making people want to watch it and have conversations about things just like yeah like even I've seen a lot of clips she's doing a lot of press. Yeah. And a lot of the things that people ask her about, like putting her kids on the show and her marriage and just these are interesting.

You know what it's not? It's not service level. These are inherently interesting topics. It's true. And they're kind of like polarizing too. Yeah. Whether you agree with her or disagree with the way she's going about it, like you're sad. She's going about it.

You're sad. Yeah. So this will be a pass for me unless like I break my arm or something and I'm like I'm bedridden. And I also think for Stasi. I guess I wouldn't be bedridden if I broke my arm. Stasi does not inherently care if you are, if you agree with her or do not agree with her. You're talking about it.

It's true. Check. Yeah. And that's how I feel, like, that's why I feel comfort in watch. For a second, I was like, I don't know if I should watch a show because like, what if I like, don't agree with Taylor or I don't agree with Stacey? They don't care. Like, that's not.

The point. They're enlightened enough to know that it's like you're talking about it. Our job is done. Yep. Thank you very much. Absolutely. You don't have to agree with everything. Although I'm proud to say like I haven't seen anything from Taylor Stracker yet.

I haven't finished that I've disagreed. that I've disagreed with. And if I do, like, I'm seriously, like, you're not going to hear from me. Yeah. You're not going to hear from me. No, I think she's carrying herself with grace. She's getting, like, you know,

commentary about how, like, you know, she's just, like, being kind of obvious in her pursuit of fame, which I actually think is refreshing, like, because we're always coming on. The person just wants fame. I was like, well, yeah, they're on TV. At least she's just being open about it, you know? Yeah.

So much so that she even considers missing the birth of baby Bill, which I feel is a little bit dramatized for TV. I think maybe the timeline was, like, touch and go there. But she was never going to miss it. Yeah. She was going to let Teddy fly home first for a few weeks. But, you know, Teddy has a lot of family here.

She was always going to be fine. And I said, by the way, I was like, I'll go. Like, whatever you need. Not to make me on the show about me. But I was talking to them and they're like, you know, the timeline's like a little. I'm like, Taylor, I'll come with you. Like, I did say I would be in the room. They were like, no, we're good.

I'm seriously cracking up that you came to. That must have not made the cut. Yeah. Well, that's our show. That's their show and that's our show. lunch time. I'm fucking starving. Yeah, we have to call Olivia.

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