The Toast - The Introverted Music Producer: Wednesday, January 15th, 2025

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday. That's right. It's hump day. It is the day of the hump. This day, this week is just crawling by. Don't you find on toast tunes, we definitely need like a hump day song. Like don't forget to hump someone you love.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Like it's kind of like a dance beat. Don't forget to hump someone you love. Don't forget to don't forget to don't forget to don't forget to hump someone you love. Don't forget to, don't forget to hump someone you love. You know, then we'll work on it, but just add it to the list. I mean, add it to the list of toast tunes. Do we even want to go there? Because then we'll be sat doing this for 30 minutes
Starting point is 00:00:34 and we don't have studio time booked and I'll be feeling inspired. No. But that, Claudia, I think I should add it- Ever since the fucking good guys, we haven't even talked about this. I think I should add it to my manifest list of goals. It's really my goal list.
Starting point is 00:00:47 It's not manifest. It's projects we need to tackle and just stop talking about. Making it goals, okay? We need to release some music. Now the fact that the fucking good guys went ahead and wrote, recorded, and released a song already for their podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:03 If you guys haven't listened to like the 2025 episodes of the good guys podcast. They after that, we love you for that. At the end of last year, Josh had written and like recorded this jingle and it's so good. Like basically intro all their episodes. Two Jews, both big and tall, no subject too small for the good guys.
Starting point is 00:01:26 A mother's dream premium podcast team, make it your weekly routine, it's the good guys. And if you don't give us five stars, what are you nuts? What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys, no, not the great guys. We're just the good, good, good, good guys. We're just the good, good, good guys. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Hey guys, welcome back to good guys. I'm so jealous. I literally texted Josh. I'm like, when is it an appropriate amount of time for me to wait for you to ask, for me to ask to write one for us? Like, I want one. Well, the good news is for Toast Tunes,
Starting point is 00:01:59 this is two separate conversations. Like we need a theme song and a jingle that plays at the beginning of every episode. It's crazy how we just raw dog these episodes where other people are like have elevator music. It's really welcoming you into the show. You know that Joe Rogan one? The Joe Rogan one.
Starting point is 00:02:12 The Joe Rogan one. It's a Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan all night. Yeah, and then Theo Bon has like a song. It's so good. Where are people getting these songs? Even if you don't have an original song, like everyone has some lovely royalty-free music
Starting point is 00:02:25 that plays between the ad breaks and the beginning of the show, just like a little buffer. And we raw dog it. People have a whole week to release their episodes. We have literally three hours to get this shit up. If we just had a clip, you could just like, we, you know, not gonna put us on the spot with it. Don't touch it.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Just like we clip in GMM. We prerecorded Good Morning Millennials a while ago. It hasn't been live in a while. It's two seconds to put it in if we had a little music. But by the way, that's a separate project just to say, to have music for our show. Toast Tunes would be an album that would encompass a lot of the songs,
Starting point is 00:02:56 the original songs that we write live here on the show. And it would also be great for you to listen to with your children. Wait, I have such a good idea. We need to- It would also be like a comedy album so we could get nominated for a Grammy. The thing that I think is more important
Starting point is 00:03:11 and that like actually is feasible is getting a jingle made for the podcast. I have an idea. I have an idea, we should have a contest because like if we could do it, we would have. Like we can't. So I feel like we have a lot of like musically inclined toasters and the thing I like about the good guys ones
Starting point is 00:03:23 is like not only is it musically very catchy and stuff, but it has like jokes from their podcasts. Like what are you nuts? And like, I just need someone to do that for us. So like, seriously, if you want to make a video, post it on like TikTok or Reels tag Jackie or I, if we, if it's, if someone makes a good one, I will pay you $5,000 for it.
Starting point is 00:03:38 That's what I would pay for like. By the way, you don't have to post, some people don't want to post something on TikTok or Reels. Like you can email it to us too. And also- Jackie, Jackie, part of this campaign and how I can justify the $5,000 is the press we would get like from the engagement.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I'm sorry, the engagement, people do this all the time on social media. I saw, you know, James Charles did something like it. Like we, I'm sorry, you have to put it on social media if you want to be- But the person who might be best for the job might be a private person who like isn't posting. So you could also submit via email.
Starting point is 00:04:03 You can post a private voice memo. You can make a private voice memo. You can make a private voice memo. And just- They can't submit via email. No Jackie, it has to be a social media campaign. I'm telling you. And then everyone gets to get involved and it's really fun. I've seen it go like really,
Starting point is 00:04:14 like very viral for certain people. Like James Charles for like his company had like, I forget what it was. People do it all the time. It's actually really smart. So if you are musically inclined and you want to write like a 30 to 60 second jingle for the toast to be.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Our theme song. Our theme song for the beginning of the show. You can record a video of yourself like playing it on the guitar or the piano. We will have it produced and everything, but we just are looking for somebody whose song we can purchase from you. You will win $5,000.
Starting point is 00:04:39 We will have it produced. Of course, we'll get the studio. Oh, okay. That part's easy. Okay. It's actually having like the song written. Once we have the song, like I could get us in the studio by tomorrow, of course. We'll get in the studio. That part's easy. Okay. It's actually having like the song written. Once we have the song, like I can get us in the studio by tomorrow, Jax. Like, do you know the influence I have
Starting point is 00:04:50 in the music community? We're in a studio. Yeah, but I mean like a music studio. No, but that's why I'm saying if someone like emailed an audio track that was like ready to go. No, but it can't be ready to go. It has to be our voices. Does it?
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah, of course. No, no. Okay, Jackie, you're like so making this more confusing than it needs to be. Post it. But what if someone's shy? You're not thinking about the introverts, the introverted music producers.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Well, I'm sorry, the introverted one's not for you, okay? Wow. The introverted music producers. Okay. You're not being inclusive. I'm sorry. I'm not, okay? Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I'm not. You're centering yourself and only thinking of yourself type of person. Yes, correct. So if you want to get involved, you can post on TikTok or Reels. You just have to tag. Oh, thanks for throwing Reels in.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah, I want to be inclusive. Tag the toast, tag Jackie or I so we can see it. Should we have a hashtag so we can like sort of find all the places? Hashtag toast tunes challenge. No, too long and toast tunes is a separate project. Toast theme song. Okay, hashtag toast theme song.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And by the way, I will pass away if nobody submits. Well, that's what's gonna happen, isn't it? Because yeah, that's what's gonna happen. I will die not maybe like James Charles did it. Yeah, like he has like 10 million followers. Seriously, just to save like my reputation, somebody please. It's also like a tall task.
Starting point is 00:06:09 This could take this person a bit of time. And they also have to get camera ready. So let's give it a few days. And what had you said, let's go back to the cash prize. Yeah, the cash prize. Well, we would have to pay someone to write a song for us anyways.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I'd rather like give it to a toaster. So if you write a song that's good enough for us to choose. The winning song wins $5,000. That $5,000 also comes with the contract where like we own the song. We're buying it from you, but yeah, it's a prize. And it's also a fee like for your work.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Yeah. $5,000. I think that's like a fair price. I think that's a really good price. Yeah. That's fun. And so if you're an introvert, but maybe $5,000 extroverts you,
Starting point is 00:06:47 like that's perhaps the motivation you can do. Okay, but like say you're an introvert and you never really posted on your social media and your friends and family follow you. And all of a sudden, like you post a video. Make a new account. Of yourself. Oh, you can make a new account,
Starting point is 00:07:00 but you post a video, like sing this song. I'm sorry, it's $5,000. You have to work a little hard for it. And what if you don't win? Well, you can always delete the video like singing this song. Like Jackie, I'm sorry, it's $5,000. You have to work a little hard for it. And what if you don't win? Well, you can always delete the video, don't worry. I'm thinking of you guys out there, if you're introverted, just know I tried. Just know this one's not for you.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Hashtag toast theme song, tag the toast, tag Jackie Rye, it doesn't need to be fully produced. I mean, if you wanna like make a fancy video to stand out, of course, you know, do you, but it's time. Like I'm so jealous of the good guys. Their song is so good. It is really good. And you know, it would be nice to really segue people
Starting point is 00:07:32 into the show, get them in the mood for a little toast. And just in terms of like, you know, if you're looking for a little bit of inspo, it definitely needs to be like an upbeat, like kind of dance tune. I would say Chef be like an upbeat, like kind of dance tune. I would say chef's choice. Yeah, okay, you're right. You guys know us.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Extroverts choice. Extroverts choice, even though I think that this is, I feel like music producers are very introverted, you know, like Matthew Koma. The thing is, it's like literally not my problem. Do you know what I mean? No, no, I know it's not. I'm just saying at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:08:04 we want the best song, right? Best song wins. We do, we do. Best song wins. So, you know, raise your voice. Get comfortable being uncomfortable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And just please submit anything. Please. So the hashtag is toast theme song. Just something. I am going, you know what I'm going to do? I am preemptively, going to follow the hashtag. Pathetically, going to follow the hashtag on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And by the way, when we post on Instagram today, we have to just use the hashtag just so it's not empty. I'll be using the hashtag on everything. I'm gonna put it on all my old videos. Oh my God, I'm fucking crying. That's funny. No results found for Toast theme song right now, which is fucking crying. That's funny. No results found for toast theme song right now, which is good. It will be ours.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It's ours. Unfortunately. For better or for worse. Oh my God, funny. Okay, I'm excited about that. Hashtag toast theme song. A little social media challenge. Just kick off the hump day.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Who am I, Ben? What's next, a giveaway? Oh, maybe. That's it. Okay, I have to tell you the funniest thing. Who am I Ben? What's next, a giveaway? Oh, maybe. That's him. Okay, I have to tell you the funniest thing. Do my hair look amazing? I got a blow out yesterday. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:11 So I just sort of treated myself to an in-home blowout with my hairstylist who I haven't seen in months. Like I literally, I do my own hair and like I just don't go anywhere. So I haven't seen him in so long. And he comes in and he's like Latin. So I'm gonna do an accent and it's just, it's important cause it's like a funny thing.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Like I'm doing the accent for the story. Okay. Just don't be offended. He's giving me such weird looks. He's like looking at my body and I'm like, excuse me? He's like, girl, you get implants? I'm like, excuse me? No, I'm pregnant.
Starting point is 00:09:41 He was like, what? He had no idea. How do you have no idea? I don't know. I'm like, are you I'm pregnant. He was like, what? He had no idea. I guess- How did he have no idea? I don't know. I'm like, are you not following me on Instagram? I haven't seen him in so long, but like still, he was like, you have implants?
Starting point is 00:09:52 And I'm like, no. But I guess that's like kind of a good thing like that. Like my body's changed so much. I haven't seen you since, you know, probably my snatchest and you, your major takeaway was that I got implants. Right, cause like if it was waking, he would have said so. he would have been like, girl, you've been waiting?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Of course, he would have, I know. Because I've been with him like- He wouldn't have said, girl, you pregnant. Yeah, literally. I just about died. And like, I was wearing like a particularly unsupportive bra, like I was in my pajamas. So I was looking like a little crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I guess I could see how he thought that. Yeah. But I guess that's like, Ben was like, you should take that as a compliment. Like someone who hasn't seen you But I guess that's like, Ben was like, you should take that as a compliment. Like someone who hasn't seen you in months, that's what they think. Yeah. Pop off.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Really pop off. Yeah. With your implants. You got implants? I'm like, yeah. That's what I'll start telling people. Or just the truth, which is a beautiful, wonderful thing. Oh yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I don't know why I'm acting like I have something to hide. Right. Well, I thing. Oh yeah, right, right. I don't know why I'm acting like I have something to hide. Right. Well, I am, you know, I don't want to set a bad example for other teenagers because teenage pregnancy can be really, really hard. It can be. But I'm getting through it. Yeah, it could be a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Of course, of course, but it's not, you know, always the best path for everyone. Yeah. And that's what me and my other teen moms believe. Coo, coo, coo, coo. What's it with you? Not too much. We actually have such good stories today
Starting point is 00:11:13 that I don't want to hasten us, but they're really good. Let's fuck shit up, let's do it. No, no, no, I feel like we need like another moment and also let everyone know we have great stories and then Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap today. Such a good episode. Which was such a good episode.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I have so many thoughts. So do I. And it's like the thing with this season and these women is like, I can't get comfortable in my like stanhood or my hatred because you know, the second I start disliking someone like Sutton, she like goes and like speaks the truth. The thing is when she speaks the truth
Starting point is 00:11:42 on like someone you dislike, you're into Sutton. But then sometimes she gets like a little full of herself emboldened if you will. And she speaks the truth on like someone you dislike, you're into Sutton. But then sometimes she gets like a little full of herself emboldened if you will. And she speaks the truth on like other things. And it's like, stop. No, and it's like, why are you, even though it's the truth, it's like, why do we need to say that? Why is that necessary?
Starting point is 00:11:55 You're hurting someone. Yeah, right, right. And same like with Garcelle, who has really just been on my non-families list with Dorita on my faves, cause they like seriously, they're not even beefing. They just dislike each other. They don't even see each other. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:09 But she was given some factual opinions and holding like Kyle to account. And I appreciated that. So it was very interesting episode. We'll get into it. Yeah, Kyle has like kind of no one in this group. So she's like sort of latched herself onto Garcelle and Sutton. No, and it's like, you can feel how weird it is
Starting point is 00:12:29 because like back in the day, they were the two outcasts. Like Kyle was the head of the group with all her friends. And now she's, the friends have gone or they've left her. And now she's like, hey guys, hey best friends. What are we doing today? Yeah, should we go to Chuck E. Cheese? Like seeing the three of them together, not once, but twice, tennis and then Chuck E. Cheese.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I was like, what is this crew? And then I realized like the only person Kyle really has sort of on her side is Sutton. And Sutton is still not even afraid to like call her out, which I really appreciated. Yeah. We'll get into the recap after the stories, which I'm shocked to hear you say are good.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I feel like with the fires and everything, they've been kind of like, you know. Yeah, people are otherwise preoccupied, but no, some interesting stories today. So without further ado, let's get into the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Smart Mouth, the only mouthwash that is scientifically proven to eliminate and prevent bad breath for 24 hours with just two rinses a day.
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Starting point is 00:17:45 Tommy Fury reveals the real reason why he split from Molly May. So Tommy Fury has finally detailed the reasons why he and Beyonce Molly May split in an emotional interview with Men's Health Carefully Timed days before Molly May's much anticipated documentary is released, which is in two days. But the countdown show Tommy became dependent on alcohol following a boxing injury and admitted his mental health was in the pan. Amid rumors that their breakup was a publicity stunt, Tommy spoke candidly about his mental health battle
Starting point is 00:18:12 and insisted he has never cheated on Molly Mae, calling rumors about other women complete and uller bullocks. He said- So who is this bitch? Well, who is this bitch anyway, but let's focus on the primary source. He said, the reason why me and Molly broke up was because I got addicted to alcohol
Starting point is 00:18:29 and I couldn't be the partner that I wanted to be anymore, he confessed. Like on the one hand, I feel like I'm right. And on the other hand, I feel like, did he hear what I said? And then, yeah, by the way, because you literally said, I gave him an out. What if he's an alcoholic and he didn't cheat?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Like you literally said this. No, what I said was, what if he's an alcoholic and he only cheats when he's blackout. And so if he could swear to Molly and never have a drop of alcohol again, could she take him back? Yeah, but he said that he didn't cheat. So you're half right.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Right, right, right. Anyways, he said, it kills me to say it, but it's true. I couldn't, I loved a pint of beer, I love to drink. And it is what it is. People go through different things in life and we all have our crosses to bear. I've got mine to bear. So basically 2023, he said was the best year of his life.
Starting point is 00:19:08 His daughter was born. He won two multimillion pound boxing matches. And then in 2024, he was injured. He like broke all the ligaments in his hand and he couldn't fight anymore. So he was replacing the adrenaline and anorphins he used to get from matches and practices with alcohol and was just drinking, drinking, drinking, going on bender weekends, Budapest, Miss Hungry's there,
Starting point is 00:19:35 just a bad scene. Yeah. Well, the fact that Tommy and Molly were spotted together somewhat recently makes me think that like this is an approved podcast like Molly and him are working together on some sort of strategy with her upcoming documentary. Like this is Molly approved, right? Yes, so what I'm seeing is that the documentary previous episodes will show some of their reconciliation and probably talk about what happened between them.
Starting point is 00:19:59 So he's just like saying it first and then we'll probably see some of the aftermath in the documentary. And now they are currently filming episodes for the spring episodes that come out of them being back together and going on dates and working through it. So I think it makes sense that like Tommy got to share his truth on his own, like in his own moment, because I doubt like he would just want, I'm sure they're, they are communicating about these things, but like for her to be like, well, Tommy's an alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:20:26 That's not really something you out someone about. Yeah, no, they have to like say it publicly on their own terms. That's a good way of looking at it. I have two questions. One, I had not heard any rumors that like this breakup was a publicity stunt. Is that like a UK tabloid thing?
Starting point is 00:20:38 I didn't even hear that. Well, if they're getting back together, then it makes you question. Not me, sorry, sorry. It makes other people question, not I, because- It doesn't make me question at all. I think them breaking up and like breaking the hearts of the entire world was so hard for them.
Starting point is 00:20:52 The only thing I don't understand is like, their breakup seemed to be extremely immediate. Like together one day, done the next. That means like something happened because if it's a slow roll, they could have been living separately before we knew and then they announced, but we're literally seeing him packing his bags
Starting point is 00:21:09 and move out. Yeah, pulling out of the G-Wagon, yeah. So maybe all of the drinking led to an unforgivable incident. Maybe it wasn't cheating, but maybe it was something else. But I do think it reached a peak because the way their breakup rolled out was like, oh wow, something, this was like a switch that was flipped.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I have to bring up that awful podcast woman who, you know, a lot of people had assumed that he had cheated on Molly Mae with absolutely no proof, but like, why else would these two break up? And then this girl, you know, went viral. She went on a podcast and she said that in Dubai, she was one of like four girls. Tommy had sex with that night
Starting point is 00:21:42 and she was like so proud of it. She's like become like an influencer because of it. She's one of the most like, wretched looking people I've ever seen. She's one of the most despicable people I've ever seen like internally, I don't care what she looks like. And I also saw another clip of her bragging about how she's used to throw her dirty drawers,
Starting point is 00:22:00 her dirty undies on her stepfather and then film his reaction. And he lost his job because of it. And she was really proud because she was getting a lot of followers. So this is a morally bankrupt person. I would not believe a word that this person says. And I'm not going to like Tommy who's not, you see, we know him as well as you could know any influencer.
Starting point is 00:22:19 He seems like he has more trust. I'm not saying what about what she said. I'm saying how do you let someone talk about you like that? Like so untruthful without, I don't know what the laws are in the UK, but like there have to be certain laws against just like saying whatever the fuck you want. Yeah, but like, are you really gonna take your time
Starting point is 00:22:37 to go and sue this like deranged person? I would. I would. Maybe. Like that made the whole thing. It got so big because of that clip. Not for my POV, maybe for other people, but really not for me.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I feel like it was just like, oh, these are the whispers. And there was that night in Dubai. And there was that night with like, Rafe and Chris Brown. Right, there was that night in Dubai. There was like that weird video. Right. Yeah, and the video at the table.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So we just sort of added that. So it was like, why wouldn't we believe it? But like, this isn't a person that I'm not, I'm not going to take her word. I'm just not. No, I fucking hate this girl. Every time I see a clip of her, like whether it's that original clip that went viral or now she like does
Starting point is 00:23:15 podcasts talking about like how disgusting she is. I have like a very physical reaction. I fucking hate her. I don't even know her name. I don't want to know her name. Me neither. I just like know her face and her voice and how she gloats about the absolute most abhorrent
Starting point is 00:23:29 behavior. Yeah. I feel like her name is Katie, but I'm not sure about that. Yeah. Anyways, I'm- And let me say, Tommy Fury looked very good on that podcast. Like really, he looked, you know, clear eyes, full hearts. Looked mentally lucid.
Starting point is 00:23:43 He looked good. Yeah. So two days are documentary jobs. So we'll start to get more answers. He looked, you know, clear eyes, full hearts, looked mentally lucid. He looks good. Yeah. So two days are documentary jobs. So we'll start to get more answers and we'll see like Molly's perspective on it. And I hope that they can rebuild it. And just like I said, when I was speculating, not speculating, I was giving a theory
Starting point is 00:23:58 as to how they could get back together. Like I do think that if he can cut out drinking, the behavior, the thing that makes him behave badly, then can he go back to being the Tommy that she loves? Yeah, because these are two people who are meant for each other, right? And we've been talking a lot about that, like as it pertains like Paige and Craig,
Starting point is 00:24:16 I think what we're all realizing is like, actually, maybe these two weren't right for each other in the end, like it wasn't. But with Molly and Tommy, they actually are each other's persons and life gets in the way and people's flaws get in the way and you it wasn't, but with Molly and Tommy, they actually are each other's persons and life gets in the way and people's flaws get in the way and you have to work through it. So I'm a champion of them working through it.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And it's actually very human of them to be going through this. I don't think it was a publicity stunt. No, neither do I. And I feel like even when we're sad about Paige and Craig, like there's always that, you know, voice that's like, well, who will they date next? That will be fun. And you can see them with other people Craig, like there's always that voice that's like, well, who will they date next? That will be fun.
Starting point is 00:24:45 And you can see them with other people. Like it was never like that for Molly, as a fan of Molly, like I never was like, Ooh, Molly get out. Like it's just, they have a child together. They all watch their love story. I feel like so much of their story was a storybook romance and it's easy to be in a thriving relationship
Starting point is 00:25:01 when things are going so well. But this really has, even in 2023, like he said, he was winning all those fights, a lot of money, and then he's down and out. And this, like, if you can get through something like this, like you can get through life. Yeah, because what they're getting through isn't an issue in their relationship.
Starting point is 00:25:18 It's like a personal issue that he's having that's like creating a blockade in their relationship. Affecting their relationship. I think he's like not home. Yeah, but it's not like they can't communicate or they have infidelity. It's not like a blockade in their relationship. But it's not like they can't communicate or they have infidelity. It's not like a relationship issue. It's like a person struggling.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And obviously then those struggles come between two people. Yes, but if you can take out the alcohol. Of course, if we work on Tommy, it sounds like resolution is possible. Yes. I'm happy for these two. Me as well. And I was like, when I did not think he cheated,
Starting point is 00:25:48 like I was like happy to see them back together, but I'm like, come on, you know, like it's like, you never want to see that, you know, you want to see the cheater lose. And so even though you champion two people getting back together and they're a family, like it doesn't feel good to like get back together with somebody after infidelity, like it's tough.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And it doesn't always work out. Do you believe him when he says he never cheated on Molly? Yeah, I mean, I do because it's pretty much before he said that it was just like a truth. Like we just like, so to undo a truth like that and lie about it, it's hard and like a kind of a fruitless endeavor. I believe him too because he could have not brought it up.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And if the other person brought it up, he could have been like, listen, I've done things I regret when I was drinking and I will always regret them till the day that I die. Without- But to say blanket, I've never cheated. Like I kind of have to believe you. And I don't know, like he's not,
Starting point is 00:26:38 we've not caught him in a lie before. You know, once someone's a liar, once you've seen them lie- Oh, and by the way, Molly will not lie on her documentary. Like if he cheated, it will be in the documentary and it will negate what he just said. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:50 So yeah. Yeah. You look crazy. I will believe someone unless I have seen them lie before. You know? And I guess like the only true evidence we have is that like just awful girl and I'm not in a court of law. She doesn't, it's, I'm throwing the evidence out.
Starting point is 00:27:06 She is not a reliable witness. It's inadmissible. Yeah. Yeah. So two days. Did you watch Shura number two yet? No, not yet. I'm just letting you know like your content plate
Starting point is 00:27:19 is holding up my life. Sorry, let me write it down. Cause I actually have been watching a bit of TV and I'm not known what to watch. And your husband wants to watch Shira number two, like I spoke to him about it. Did he watch it without you? No, no, no, no, no. But tonight should be the night because Southern Charms not on tonight. You should watch it. And I'm surprised it's like not getting any award season hype. I don't know if it's because it was like just kind of released on Macs and like good. No. was good, no? Yeah, right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Are you ready for our next story, which is some movie drama? Mm-hmm. Justin Baldoni is demanding that Disney hold onto documents to support his claims Ryan Reynolds used Nice Pool to bully him. So when I first saw this headline, I was so confused. It wasn't English to me.
Starting point is 00:28:02 My brain felt like mush. Nice Pool? Like what the hell is Nice Pool. What the hell is nice pool? What the fuck is nice pool? So here- Now that I understand it, I just want to say never really been a Ryan Reynolds fan. Currently, huge Ryan Reynolds fan.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Oh, that's not how I, I never, I just am like so glad that I don't watch these stupid movies. Anyways, here's what nice pool is because Justin Baldoni is seeking to gain communications made about Ryan Reynolds' Nice Pool character in an attempt to show it was used to bully him. So in his movie Deadpool and Wolverine
Starting point is 00:28:34 that came out this summer, apparently a character was created called Nice Pool, and he's like a cringe male feminist. And- Who like has a podcast and long hair. Yeah, and Baldoni and others think that this character was made to like make fun of Justin Baldoni. So his legal battle,
Starting point is 00:28:52 he's responding to Blake Lively's sexual harassment and retaliation claims. And they sent a litigation hold letter on January 7th to Marvel Studios president and Disney CEO, demanding they hold onto documents that mentioned Baldoni for potential use in court. According to the letter viewed by people, they want any and all documents relating to the development
Starting point is 00:29:08 of the Nicepool character and communications relating to the development and writing and filming of storylines and scenes featuring Nicepool. To support it. The thing is they can ask for shit all they want. Marvel is not being subpoenaed. They do not have to hand over these documents. And I have a hard time believing they're gonna give up
Starting point is 00:29:23 documents that if maybe make Ryan Reynolds look bad or guilty when like they're one of, Ryan Reynolds was one of his, their biggest stars. Like he just did a huge Deadpool franchise. Like him, this letter is like, I want this. Yeah, well, I want a lot of things. No, but like also say Ryan Reynolds was ticked off by Justin Maldoni,
Starting point is 00:29:40 created a character that- Not illegal. Not illegal. And he, the claim is that they're looking for documents relating to or reflecting a deliberate attempt to mock, harass, ridicule, intimidate, or bully Baldoni through the character of Nice Pool. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:29:54 It's called inspiration, first of all. And second of all, so Justin Baldoni, you agree. You're like a fake male, awkward, cringe feminist. And also, so there's, Nice Pool barely made the movie, by the way. There's some deleted scenes of this person. And one of them, he said how he's gonna monetize the feminist movement for his podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And then he also like compliment Lady Pool, who is played by Blake Lively. What is Pool? Like, this is so stupid, okay? What is this movie? I'm not sure, like you're so asking. Ask your husband. So Lady Pool and Nicepool were talking,
Starting point is 00:30:25 just like Justin and Blake. As two pools do. As two pools do and Nicepool said to Ladypool, like you look so good for just having a baby. Ooh, okay, I just wanna say, I don't think there's really any doubt that Justin Baldoni was the inspiration for this character, this scene, this dialogue.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Like it's in the documents and then it's on your screen. And also it's in the documents and then it's on your screen. Like it's- It's worth noting that the timing of the filming of Deadpool Wolverine and It Ends With Us are very concurrent. Similar, yeah. So like the movies came out at the same time, which meant they were being filmed at the same time.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So if Ryan Reynolds added this, it's because of things that happened in tandem on It Ends With Us set. So the timing is there. Am I crazy or is Justin Baldoni sort of validating- Outing himself. Outing himself, like validating that, maybe he did say that to Blake Lively.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And two, just that that's what the vibes were, that they were contentious and you were being a fake female. I don't understand why this helps Justin Baldoni's case because it's not illegal to use someone as inspiration. So here's what, so there's two things. There's the case and and then there's like the court of public opinion,
Starting point is 00:31:27 which one could win one and lose the other, but both are important, and you could argue each one is equally more important because this is their job is being in the public. What Justin Baldoni needs to prove in court and to the public is that Blake and Ryan were setting out to launch a smear campaign against him because of what happened on the set of It Ends With Us.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That is why he hired Crisis PR. Defensively. And started positioning himself as a good guy as an attempt to thwart whatever was coming his way. But because that never really happened, it just looked like he was going after her. An offensive attack. Yeah, no, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:32:03 So that's what he needs to prove. And he's using Nice Pool as a way to show, like they're making fun of me. And this is one piece in the larger thing that was set to destroy Justin Maldoni that he worked preemptively against. Understood. Well, I don't really feel like anything I've seen
Starting point is 00:32:19 like from a legal standpoint, like I don't think he has a strong case because again, like even if there's a document, an email that says, I am creating a character named Nice Pool and I am going to base him off of this guy who worked with my wife, not illegal. So I don't think his legal case has really any merit, but I do think that him filing these things and keep,
Starting point is 00:32:42 I do think he's chipping away at the good faith Blake had received from her complaint. And I do think he's successfully turned public opinion around a little bit after, cause it was always, you know, team Justin. And then her complaint, which had a lot of screenshots, a lot of evidence and a lot of really damning stuff in there did wonders for her.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And honestly, it was crazy because people were just so committed to disliking her that it was really compelling stuff that it ended up wonders for her. And honestly, it was crazy because people were just so committed to disliking her that it was really compelling stuff that it ended up flipping for him. And now he's with his complaints and his subpoenas and his suits. And I do think it's actively, you know, he's making headway for himself. I don't know where we landed in terms of public opinion. I don't think we're split. I think the public is.
Starting point is 00:33:24 More so leaning towards Justin. Yes, but I also think we're headed towards like a place of apathy and confusion. Yeah. And everyone just sort of being like, well, we don't know. And at this point we really don't care. Yeah, it's really a bit too messy. It's hard to keep everything apart.
Starting point is 00:33:43 You can't keep reading all these lawsuits. Like we're just... Like sort of like your problem. We have to go back to paying our bills and going to work. Like it was fun for sure. And we wish you all the best, but that's okay. Yeah, but I guess the outcome is like, okay, so what should come of this?
Starting point is 00:34:00 Like should either one of them be canceled? Are they both safe to work with again for the industry? And also just like for people, cause the way I feel is like, I'm gonna go back to consuming each of them the same way I did before any of this, which is that I don't really engage in his stuff cause it's not for me.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And when Blake drops a Swirly film, I'm there. Yeah, right. And like, it's nice to see her with the Swirlies at the Rhode Island compound, which I don't know if you saw is getting an extension. I did see. Hey, she needs one. This house is a little small. A hundred percent. Taylor's house in Rhode Island. Like people found the permits. So basically she's taking, it's actually crazy. Like the amount of things you know about people
Starting point is 00:34:37 who are famous. So her master bedroom, the master bedroom as it is now is becoming the bathroom and closet and lounge area. And then the extension, which is I think an additional 500 square feet is becoming the actual bedroom like where the bed is. She's got a big husband. Yeah, it's true. Like she needs bigger furniture, bigger chairs.
Starting point is 00:34:55 She needs bigger everything. And the guys that she used to date, like Larry Wade less than her, like skinny little British guys. So all the furniture is definitely like antique and Travis probably cracked a chair. For sure. He's got like big protein shakes to put on a nightstand. Like he needs bigger furniture. It's so true.
Starting point is 00:35:09 He needs more. No, and you know he's just like aggressive. Like when he opens a drawer, he like pulls it really hard and it comes off the hinges. Like she can't beat with this like little dainty sort of like, you know, our antique tables that she finds in Paris. She needs restoration hardware. She's tapping CB2 now for sure. Not even like, what's the big and tall equivalent of furniture stores? Like restoration hardware, everything there's huge.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Honestly like Raymour and Flanagan, it needs to be like good American made shit. Lazy boy. Yeah, plus- And you know Travis definitely has like a recliner in the corner. Now she has all these nieces and nephews. She needs more bedrooms.
Starting point is 00:35:43 She has all these friends. Bunk beds. I don't know how they were all just like sharing rooms over that. Whose birthday was it? When Blake's birthday, when they had the party and then also like July 4th, she said so many all of her friends have kids. Like I'm sorry. That house is way too small. I bet you she's like making the basement into like a kid's like bunk area.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah. So much fun with like a little play gym. Oh my God. And the Kelsey girls and the Reynolds girls. So cute. You, and you know, like, what's the name of one of the Kelsey girls? Elliot Wyatt. Wyatt's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:36:16 you heard the rumors from me, Nez. You can't believe a word she says. And they're just going to be like in the basement starting drama. Totally in the basement starting drama. Totally in the basement starting drama. So yeah, I saw that. Such cousin behavior. I guess like she could have moved too,
Starting point is 00:36:30 but like moved on the island to a bigger house. She couldn't. First of all, we're joking. The house is fucking huge. Oh yeah, we're so joking. The house is tiny. And I'm sure the only bigger houses like in Rhode Island are those like Rockefeller museums.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Like those old summer cottages that are now like I went on in high school like a tour they all have like velvet stanchions like you can like look around but they're like the old Rockefeller and Vanderbilt houses that's what she needs yeah she does because that house is super small and actually she loves her Rhode Island house a lot and I think an unfortunate part of it is it's really not private because like it's next door to a public beach. And like you can just, I mean, people knew that she was doing construction cause they just
Starting point is 00:37:08 took a picture of the house and there was like a tarp. Like it doesn't, I think she hates that she likes it so much because it's really not very private. Meanwhile, I've like never seen her LA house, you know? Yeah. Even her Nashville house, I feel like is so, I've seen like an aerial view of it. Like I don't know what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Of course the New York apartment, we know the building from the outside and she does like that a lot cause it's super private. But her Rhode Island house is like her least private house. Like we just know so much about it. I mean, we're talking about- I know, but she probably is also like, oh, they think they know so much,
Starting point is 00:37:35 but we don't know what goes on. It's true. Actually, we don't know a lot about what it looks like inside. We're always seeing pictures of the outside and the beach, but like her LA house is where she did Vogue 73 questions. So like we literally saw the whole thing when she was walking through. New York is where like all pictures of like her baking,
Starting point is 00:37:50 like it's all in New York. All the reputation that AT&T, like video diaries she did when she was writing reputation, when she was hiding after Kanye, that was in the Nashville house. So we've seen the interiors of most, not Rhode Island. Yeah, but now we can guess that it's furnished. Maybe she'll do like an AD spread
Starting point is 00:38:13 with her new big American furniture. I mean, and the whole theme of that house is American, right, like she always does July 4th there, it's always like red, white and blue. And yeah, it makes sense that like her and Travis would be redoing it for America. Yeah, for, and for bigger people. Correct. It's so American.
Starting point is 00:38:30 They gotta raise the ceilings. Literally. Cause also people, like when the house was built, people were shorter back then. Don't you find? Yes, Rebecca Harkness, a hundred percent. Yeah. So that's the latest with Justin V. Blake.
Starting point is 00:38:42 This is the craziest. What a nightmare. I know we said this last time, but like what a nightmare movie. I do find myself caring a lot less. And this was like a subject that at one point I couldn't sleep. Like I was thinking about it over the summer nonstop.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And so I've really stopped caring. Yeah. No, I haven't stopped caring. I'm sorry. I haven't. Cause I still find this nice pool thing hilarious and interesting, but my level of interest has definitely decreased it
Starting point is 00:39:06 and I think it's going to continue trending downward. Yeah, same. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Number three. Oh yeah. Kate Middleton reveals she's in remission from cancer after a surprise hospital visit.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So Kate Middleton is in remission four months after completing her cancer treatment. The Princess of Wales announced the happy news on Instagram Tuesday while sharing photos from her surprise visit to the Royal Marsden hospital in London, where she retreat received treatment. She said in her post, I want to take the opportunity to say thank you to the Royal Marsden for looking after me so well during the past year. My heartfelt thanks goes to all those who have walked quietly alongside William
Starting point is 00:39:44 and me as we have navigated everything. She went on to say that she couldn't have asked for more from the medical staff who provided exceptional care and advice during her time as a patient. She had then announced that she had taken on the role of joint patron of the hospital now that she's in remission and has returned to her royal duties. She said it like very casually. She had like a long caption about her visit to this hospital. At the very end, she dropped the word remission. Everybody was like, wait. So it was the first we heard of it. She's like not making a big deal of it. I think you probably like don't want to jinx it either
Starting point is 00:40:12 because remission like is great, but it can always come back. And I didn't know you could be in remission after four months. I thought it had to be like at least a year. Four months after finishing treatment. Yeah. Like I thought it had to be a whole year
Starting point is 00:40:25 where like all your scans and tests come back positive, but what the hell do I know? I'm sure the doctors at Royal Mars would know a little bit more. I'm really happy for her. I think like taking on a role within the hospital, six so Royal, you know, you have to do some philanthropic element and this is so personal.
Starting point is 00:40:40 So it's great. I'm happy for her. And I hope that like this chapter is truly like behind her and over. Yeah, I'm happy for her. And I hope that like this chapter is truly like behind her and over. Yeah, same, some good news. And I hope for happy days ahead. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Are you ready for our next story? Another Queenie. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Brianna Chicken Fry is on the cover of SI Swimsuit Digital Issue. So SI Swimsuit and Brianna Chickenfry Lapaglia have shared. Oh wait, she pronounced her name in the video.
Starting point is 00:41:09 No, the G, yeah she did. Yeah, Lapaglia, is that what she said? Yeah, and she didn't call herself Brianna Chickenfry. It felt like a move towards a new era. Like a genesis, a rebirth, yeah. And I like how she has not corrected a single person on her last name, because everybody says Lapaglia, it's Lapaglia.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, I wonder if she's trying to intentionally be less chicken fry or it's like, I'm on the cover of a magazine, I'm gonna use my last name. Yeah, I think it's probably that because I think she likes having an inner, having like a nickname and like a username, internet persona helps with branding,
Starting point is 00:41:38 like it's all good. Yeah, it is good. So she was just named the cover model for the publication's January, 2025 digital issue. And she said the gig was all about reclaiming herself. She raved about having the freedom to do whatever she wants, which obviously sounds like a shot at Zach Brian, who she is accused of being emotionally abusive
Starting point is 00:41:54 during their year and change of them dating. She said- I was shocked to see this. I know. She said- Genuinely surprised. It means so much more to me than feeling sexy and being in a cool location.
Starting point is 00:42:04 She said, I'm allowed to do what I wanna do. I'm allowed to do it in any fashion, in any amount of clothes, in front of whoever I want. And no one has the control over you to tell you what you can or cannot do. She said she was feeling all the emotions throughout the shoot, including some nerves, but you wouldn't be able to tell based on the end result.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Now she looks sick. Let me tell you, her body, like her torso is so long. I was really shocked to see this. Her legs are so long. Sports sports illustrated does a really good job of like incorporating content creators, influencers, notably like Xandra and Alex. And so I think to be chosen is a really big honor because they don't do like,
Starting point is 00:42:37 it's not like they're all an influencer company. They still like maintain the integrity of like models, but they include digital people, which I really like in a balanced sort of way. So for Brianna to have been picked is kind of a huge honor. It is, but also for their digital cover, like if they do a lot of digital, like it's a very niche selection of people,
Starting point is 00:42:59 cause it's like digital people that are also like B-B-Bikini models and also personalities and also very relevant right now. So they do a really good job. You get the same level of photo shoot as if you were in the print magazine. They do really good job of like picking people. The pictures are beautiful.
Starting point is 00:43:12 It's exciting for the fans of the influencer. And it's just like great for sports illustrated as well. Cause then they're really in the news year round as opposed to just like the annual issue. The annual. So I think this is like brilliant for everyone and actually something that I probably wouldn't have thought to expect, which I love.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Like it's very unexpected. There are some things I feel like, oh, obvious, duh. But this is like, you know, that's a brilliant idea and I wouldn't have thought of it. I completely agree. And I, the photos were insane. Like she literally looked like a mermaid with her long hair. And I never saw a torso like that.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I know. And- Oh, to be young. I feel like she obviously has some healing to do and she needs time for herself and she's just enjoying her life. But like I do look forward to seeing who she will date next. So happy to be able to tell you this
Starting point is 00:43:55 big news from the trip with Turt Trip. Brianna brought a guy with her and she's like, they're doing like a bunch of like interviews with the Tart magazine, Tart cosmetics social team. And they're like, who'd you bring with you? Who's your plus one? And Brianna's like, I brought my non-boyfriend, boyfriend, non-boyfriend, and he's been showing up
Starting point is 00:44:12 in a lot of people's videos. He's just a guy, not a whatever. He's super cute. It seems like they're really just having fun and hooking up. And if I was Brianna and I looked like that, and I was young and everybody was wanting to go out with me, yeah, I'd take a guy on the trip with Tartt trip too. Like.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Right. That's not what I meant. No, of course. Of course not. Also I've been seeing a lot of discourse about the trip and with Tartt trip. I'm like, you don't understand. I am knee deep in that.
Starting point is 00:44:41 In Necker Island. Do you want to know what's going on? I'll tell you everything you could possibly need to know. Yeah, you know what I want to know? What's the beef between Brianna La Paglia and Ken? Well, they actually as of last night they made up. Of course they did. What was the original beef? And and it was it was like actually, I don't know. I'm not even entirely sure. It was like really dumb internet drama. They like were they did something together and like they didn't get along. I think Ken thought that like Brianna was a bitch and then Ken they made a lot of content like calling her a bitch.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And so like, it was just kind of, I could see how it happens with like two powerful women, you know, like in the industry. And then what was crazy is like Ken has a podcast and Ken is another influencer who's on the Tartt trip and she has a podcast and on the podcast, she talks about how Tartt invited her to go on this trip and they wanted to get on a call to let her know
Starting point is 00:45:21 that Brianna was going to be on the trip. And she- She released that episode while to be on the trip. And she- She released that episode while they were on the trip. And she clipped that moment and put it on Instagram, like while they're on the same island. These bitches are a different breed. Like they don't give a fuck. I like that for them.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah, and they thrive and they actually like are rewarded by this type of, people love it. So it's like, it keeps things interesting. And the fact that they ended, I mean, the trip is over now. And like on the last night they made up. So they probably spent the entire trip avoiding one another. I know, but it's like, it keeps things interesting. And the fact that they ended, I mean, the trip is over now. And like on the last night they made up. So they probably spent the entire trip avoiding one another. I know, but it's just so crazy. Cause probably the original sin is nothing that crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And then everything that comes afterwards, it wasn't so much bigger. And if the two girls just sit down, they probably have so much in common and can move forward with their lives. It just is annoying. I feel like everybody's like always coming for Brianna. How about we like spread it out, you know?
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah, no, she's definitely like taking on a lot right now from like the post-Zach, like it was really positive. And then like, of course, like anything, the pendulum swings back. The post-Zach, the Grace, the bar stool, the Ken, like it's a lot. And I feel like if I, I don't know what she's dealing with like on an emotional level,
Starting point is 00:46:19 but she is probably like breaking down every once a week, maybe it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. And people are like, she deserves it. She's was made to great. It's like, nobody deserves that. And you actually don't know what happened. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Now what's being said on the interwebs and it was spawned by Brianna bringing a guy with her. But like a lot of, they brought a huge, like really wide range of influencers. Some who are married with kids, some who are single. So, you know, Remy was there, she brought her sister, people brought all different. And some people brought their like man's husbands, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:51 Brianna obviously brought this guy, she's like newly dating, but everybody, some people brought partners, significant others, plus one. Yeah, right, you get one room and a plus one, so whoever you're comfortable sleeping in a bed with, like whether that's your sister or your husband. And I've seen like a lot of people on social media making TikToks and like using that sound like,
Starting point is 00:47:05 why would a man be there being like, why would anybody bring their husband or boyfriend? And it's like such hate or jealous energy. Cause like, if I was invited on Tart, like let's say they literally invited me on this trip. Who else would I have brought besides Ben? Like Ben's so fun. Like, and I'm sorry, I like my husband
Starting point is 00:47:20 and like we have fun together and I would want to enjoy this special moment with him. Like they're like, anyone who's brought a significant other who's a man is like getting clowned on, on TikTok right now which I really don't agree with at all. And maybe that's, I'm biased because like I would have been the girl who brought her husband. Yeah, that's a random take.
Starting point is 00:47:38 I feel like people are really reaching for things that they can like come at these girls. It's a work trip. No, but you're also going to like a private island. There's something like romantic about that. I would like to do that with my husband. Yeah. And by the way, like some people have fun with their husbands.
Starting point is 00:47:53 It's not like a big deal to like party with your husband. Yeah. Cause that's what the chart trip is. It's like every day it's like drinking games are blackout all day. They're they've tired after dark. They're up till six in the morning. Like it's fun.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yeah. So I, like if I, I wanted to have fun like that, I'm sure Margaret would be mad that I didn't bring her, but like I would have brought back. Yeah. That's so, that's so weird. People just, they can't think of what to be mad about. I know.
Starting point is 00:48:13 They can't think of what to be mad about. And at the end, like they're all jealous. Like all these influencers making videos about Tart. And like if I was invited, like of course I would have went. And are the people who are saying- But wait, but wait. You weren't invited. Are the people who are saying that married?
Starting point is 00:48:24 No, of course not. But some of them are, I've seen, actually I don't know who these people are, but like I'm sure some of them have like boyfriends and stuff. But it's different also to like be married. And so to clown on someone to be in a position that you have no idea what that feels like. No, but so many people are making TikToks,
Starting point is 00:48:39 like so many influencers are making TikToks about the tar trip, whether it's like tone deaf or whatever. They were like, well, if I was in that position and I was invited, I would have done X, Y, and Z. But it's like, but you weren't invited. So- I've actually seen a couple of those videos and it's like, well, I don't-
Starting point is 00:48:50 By the way, I just did that. I was like, if I was invited, I would have brought back. But you weren't invited. No, but it's like, I don't, there go, I don't use Tart, but I would have loved to like be on this trip. I'm like, but you don't use Tart. Why would you be on this trip? I do want to talk about that though,
Starting point is 00:49:07 because while we're all talking about Tarte, every other word, Tarte, Tarte, Tarte, it's like amazing, like they spent $2 million and like that's $2 million worth of marketing. We're talking about Tarte. But the products like really have not been front and center. And when they go on, when you go on a brand trip, you're not paid, right?
Starting point is 00:49:24 So you don't have to make content, but they make it so pargy and they give you like ring lights in your rooms and all this different makeup, like to make content with, are you okay? There's a little fly. Cause I'm like making a point and you're like not listening. I know I'm listening, I'm listening. Did you get it?
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah, no, I didn't get it, but carry on. Whatever, so, and this has been a theme with all the Tarte trips, because while you don't get paid to go on an influencer trip, they make it so like content friendly that you end up making so much content with the brand, with the products. And they leave like a full face of, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:54 NARS beauty in your room that you're getting ready and you end up using all this NARS. But with the Tarte thing, first of all, I've seen so few videos of people actually like doing their makeup, that it's like not even like a makeup focused thing. And like, sort of what's like not being said here is like none of these girls use Tarte.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Like Tarte is like low brow sort of makeup. It is? Yeah, yeah. Like nobody really uses Tarte. Like it's like you were using Charlotte Tilbury, we're using Patrick Tau, like this like sort of new, rare beauty. I use, this is Tarte.
Starting point is 00:50:24 You know, by the way, I like Tarte too. I'm just saying in terms of like what's hot in the beauty community, like on social media right now, like Tarte is just sort of, it's very, what's the word I'm looking for? I don't know, it kind of reminds me of like ColorWow a little bit. That is so interesting.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I see it as like akin to like Urban Decay, like Sephora brand. Yeah, yeah, sure, Urban Decay. So those brands right now, just in terms of what's hot on social media, those are not the brands everybody's using in their makeup get ready with me. It's really like Patrick Tau, it's Rare Beauty,
Starting point is 00:50:56 it's these sort of clean girl makeup, what's her name? What's her name? With the eyeshadows, with the P. Pat McGrath, thank you. Like what else? Pat McGrath is not clean girl makeup though. It's super colorful. Makeup by Mario.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah, but it's very glittery and nude. Got it. Makeup by Mario. So there are certain brands that are very in the cool girls, like guys right now, and all these cool girls who have been invited, they actually don't reach for Tarte and so while I've seen such-
Starting point is 00:51:27 I thought everyone uses Tarte. No, well, by the way they do. They're like a huge mass American brand. Like they crush it. They're like one of the biggest sellers on TikTok shop. They're one of the biggest sellers in Sephora, but like for like the cool girl, like New York City LA influencer who sit and do their makeup,
Starting point is 00:51:42 like they're really not using a lot of Tarte products and they're not even using them on this trip. One, because there's so little get ready with me content. They're all just like at the beach drunk, like making videos and like there's Tarte branding everywhere, which is great. But in terms of the actual product, like I know they're launching a setting spray
Starting point is 00:51:54 and like I've seen one video about it actually. Like I don't know how successful it is for moving actual product, but for general brand awareness, it's huge. Interesting. Yeah. I just assume they all had a face full of Tarte and we're just watching them dancing, sweating,
Starting point is 00:52:09 their makeup not moving. And hey, that's a good ad for Tarte. No, and this is actually, I think like one of the legitimate critiques of Tarte trips. Like everybody's like, it's out of touch. Like my influencers, sorry, that's just the way the world works, get over it. But I think like if I worked at Tarte, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:52:22 how do we make it a little bit more mandatory that like everybody has a lipstick and everybody's like when they want to use Tarte, they just use the shape tape concealer. That's like their most popular product. And it's like, that one's that kind of stuck around in the culture a little bit, even though it's still like a little old school. But it's like they have so many new products, like nobody's ever talking about it. Like, I think that's an actual issue Tarte
Starting point is 00:52:40 should address. Be like, maybe let's require one get ready with me a day like for this big trip. People, people let's require one get ready with me a day. Like for this big trip. People would do it, but they have no social obligations, but everybody posts a thousand things. Or it's just like, you can only wear it. Like don't bring, we're going through your suitcases. You can't bring other makeup.
Starting point is 00:52:55 You're only wearing Tarte makeup. No, you can bring it, but don't put it in your videos. Like they need a little bit more structure around getting their products out there. It's so funny. Cause like we're saying they should be crazier. Like they should be, they should clamp down more. You're spending $2 million and it's great because the girls go, they're like, everything's paid for.
Starting point is 00:53:11 There's no obligations. Of course we are going to post, but even if I didn't, I don't have to. Like there's, there's not no responsibility on my end. But there should be like a tiny bit. Cause now the trips are so desirable. If you said to even the biggest of influencers come Necker Island, you're going to be bringing whoever you want, you just have to post one makeup, get ready with me today and show two tar products,
Starting point is 00:53:29 like two. They would say, yeah, it's such a low left. They're making the content anyway. It should just be enforced a little bit more. That's my opinion. Yeah, I agree. Well, Brianna chicken fry looks beautiful. She does, I'm really happy for her.
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Starting point is 00:56:44 because of the ads and like seriously changed our lives. Yeah. Our fifth and final story is a little holiday news cause you know, we gotta keep that, hold onto that holiday spirit. Right, what is it? Like 345 days till Christmas? Literally, so Priyanka Chopra is teaming up
Starting point is 00:56:58 with Nick Jonas, Joe Jonas and Kevin Jonas for a holiday movie. So the Joe bros. Oh, what is it? Like Camp Rock 4? Literally So the Joe bros. Oh, what is it? Like Camp Rock Fort? Literally, the Joe bros were spotted filming. By the way, Priyanka is so Mitchy. She's so Mitchy.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Oh my gosh. She was spotted filming a holiday movie in Toronto this month, Nick, Joe and Kevin. And she was spotted as well there. And also Frankie and also another actress. Like this is a big budget. The bonus. Jonas Brothers holiday movie.
Starting point is 00:57:27 They're wasting no time. I feel like Priyanka hasn't acted in a minute. Yeah. I feel like she doesn't do a lot of acting. Hot take, what has Priyanka been in? Like she, well, yeah. Well, that's what like, she was really popular Bollywood actress
Starting point is 00:57:40 and then her American debut was Quantico and made her like the biggest star. And since then, like dead ass, what has she been? There was one other thing that was mentioned here. It was like where Celine Dion, Celine Dion wrote original song for her. What was that movie called? Like Marry Me?
Starting point is 00:57:55 Oh yeah. Was it J.Lo? Was Priyanka in that? She was, she might have, Citadel was another one that she is in. I don't know what that is. Love Again. Yeah, that's the one.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Love Again, that's the one. Okay. We need to look at her IMDB because I feel like Priyanka Chopra actress period, right? But Priyanka Chopra actress question mark. She was in Love Again. I feel like she's like a celebrity. She's famous for being like now,
Starting point is 00:58:20 I mean, she has 92 million followers. That's her global reach because she really is such a big global star. Yeah, because she's been in a lot of movies. Citadel, yeah, Love Again, that's the one that Celine Dion wrote an original song for. Oh, right, and what's the premise of that? It was something really crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah, it was like a rom-com, yeah, there's Celine. So coping with the loss of her fiance, Mira Ray sends a series of romantic texts to his old cell phone number, not realizing it was reassigned to a journalist named Rob Burns. Rob becomes captivated by the honesty of her words in the beautifully constructed text.
Starting point is 00:58:56 So he's assigned to write a profile on superstar Celine Dion. He enlists her help to figure out how to meet Mira in person and win her heart. So it's Celine Dion and this heartthrob like working to meet this catfish girl via text. Like it's a crazy movie. That's so crazy. Also I do think Nick Jonas has a cameo.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Like those two work together. They support one another. Like Priyanka's like, oh, we're doing another music video? Okay. And when Nick needs to show up in a film, he shows up in a film and I guess this time he's bringing his brothers. Like I actually really appreciate that celebrities,
Starting point is 00:59:21 I, you know, Joe and Sophie used to do it all the time too. Have you, I, because I actually just watched weirdly the what and Sophie used to do it all the time too. Cause I actually just watched weirdly what a man gotta do music video for the first time in so long. All the J sisters were in it and each couple was reenacting like iconic couples through movie history. So Joe and Sophie were-
Starting point is 00:59:36 Greece. Cha Cha Di Gagorio and John Travolta in Greece and they do like the prom dance. They did risky business. I forget, like it was actually really cute. I miss that time. Although like now we know was actually really cute. I miss that time. Although like now we know how toxic it was. Like I really miss it.
Starting point is 00:59:48 But Priyanka and Nick like really show up for one another in a compelling way. And I think it's really sweet. They do. And so I think this is nice. And I think it's great for the Jonas fans, the fans of holiday movies. I endorse this idea.
Starting point is 01:00:03 And I happen to think that what a man gotta do, sorry to like keep harping on that music video. I think it's one of their best songs ever. And I think it's one of the best songs of like the last 10 years. What a man gotta do. That's strong words. What a man gotta do.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Cause it's like, they don't make music that sounds like that anymore. To be totally locked up by you. It's like Bruno Mars vibe. Yes, very like what is that? It's like the jive. Like what is that? You could do the mashed potato to it.
Starting point is 01:00:25 What's that genre called? Like that song could have been on the hairspray soundtrack. That's why I like it. I don't think it's a genre as much as the time. Like it's rock. Yeah, 60s. Like Elvis. No, no, it's like 60s.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Elvis is like 60s. No, what is the genre of music of the hairspray soundtrack that they're all doing the mashed potato to? I don't know what it was called then, but that was also like pop music for them. But at the time, yeah, so it's sixties. Yeah. And a bit of rock.
Starting point is 01:00:54 People need to make more music like that. People need to make more music like that. And then they also perform like that. Like when Bruno Mars performs and they're all wearing like matching colorful suits and they've got like a live band, they're all doing, you know, the jive. That's my vibe. Yeah, no, it's music for everyone. That's what Bruno Mars performs and they're all wearing like matching colorful suits and they've got like a live band. They're all doing, you know, the jive. And that's my vibe.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Yeah. No, it's music for everyone. That's what Bruno Mars has said that that's what his goal was. I think he like saw some performers growing up and it was like music that everyone can like. And he was like, I want to make music like that. And like, congrats, Bruno, you did it. Things you did.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Things you did that. Cause a lot of like older people love Bruno Mars. There's nobody who could say in earnest that Bruno Mars makes bad music. Okay, Jackie, add to your list of goals. Like let's go to a Bruno Mars concert. Let's fly to one. Like that's a good goal.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Put it on your list. I mean, even not this year, it's like gonna be hard for me, but still like in the next two years. It's kind of like a different goal. It's like wishes, but yeah. Yeah, it's giving me make a wish, but. Dreams and wishes, aspirations.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Oh my gosh. And also rascal flats are going on tour soon. That kicks off. Did we miss Uncasville? No, I believe that like there's one, there's two in Florida, not terribly far. And I think they're like in April. They made it hard for us for sure.
Starting point is 01:02:08 They made it hard for us, but I'll fucking be there. Somehow, some way. Let's talk about the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, a new episode aired last night. And what has been like a decent season, not bad, not good, a little sleepy. I thought last night was actually a very good episode without like a big, I think Bravo feels like they need
Starting point is 01:02:27 a big blow up and somebody pulling someone's hair for things to be explosive. And I feel like last night was a good example of something like a really good episode. Nothing crazy happened, but like it was really crazy how Kyle finally read that text message and it was exactly. And she's talking to us being like, look, it's innocent. And what you're reading is like, no, no,
Starting point is 01:02:43 that's exactly what you said it wasn't. Yeah, no, it was much more subtle. You can tell me things and I'll never tell anybody I never have. Looks like next week is a blow up and I'm sure she blows up at that spot and then it's a to be continued. So we'll get the rest of the fight in two weeks.
Starting point is 01:02:56 In two weeks. But yeah, there were a couple things happening. One, I also thought it was interesting. Everyone wants a bows on their side. It's so crazy. I feel like people have not courted a new girl. Usually the new person has to prove themselves and try and get in and say, hey, what about me?
Starting point is 01:03:12 And when there's a lot of drama going on, they kind of get left behind because you're not a part of this. But I guess because she has been such a friend to Dorit and people do just sometimes just really click and hit it off and connect quicker than other people. That is something that happens like, and that's very normal.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Yeah, like everybody's showing up to Bose's house after she got surgery when they've known these girls for three weeks. Like it really is courting is the perfect word. Like it's really crazy. I don't remember a time in which a new girl, A has not had to work hard at all. And B like everyone's sort of like dying
Starting point is 01:03:42 to get her on their side. And I think that like when Kyle came over, like it was like the most awkward, like disingenuous like this woman just had surgery and you're going on about like Moe and Dorit rumor last year. Not even that she comes over and she says, I feel like, uh, Bose doesn't have a good understanding of me based on like things that Dorit has said it in two Bose, but also like in front of the rest of the group. She was like, I feel like she just doesn't know, understand who I am as a person.
Starting point is 01:04:04 So you're going to choose the day that she had surgery to go to her house and show you who, show her who you are. Like she don't give a fuck. And by the way, the editors like really are not feeling Kyle this season because at that scene, when she's visiting Bose at the edge of her bed, she's like, well, you know, like me and Dorit, like we didn't really, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:20 Dorit never like opened up to me about what was going on in her life. Meanwhile, they cut to a scene last year where her being like, honestly, I feel like my marriage might not make it. A cut a minute year later, her marriage doesn't make it. That's what I keep saying. Everyone is like, Dorit acted like opened up to me about what was going on in her life. Meanwhile, they cut to a scene last year where her being like, honestly, I feel like my marriage might not make it. And then a year later, her marriage doesn't make it. That's what I keep saying. Everyone is like, Dorit acted like everything was so perfect. She never shared.
Starting point is 01:04:30 She literally was ringing the bell all last season. Even that scene where like PK does the pretty woman thing for her was like not a happy romantic scene. Like that was not a good moment. And she like, she has shared the entire time, even this season, like every therapy session. Just nobody listens to her. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Can you say she talks too much, maybe listen to what she's saying so that you can call back to it and remember things that she said. And I love that when Garcelle came over to like also blow smoke up Boze's ass, she was going on about why she doesn't like to read and she was like, well, she just doesn't listen. And it's like, that's why you don't like someone.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Like it's not like, oh, well she killed my friend. And Boze was like, okay. And like, nobody listens. Yeah, so she talks a lot. That's not a thing. It's not a crime. No, it's not. And I really, I'm like loving.
Starting point is 01:05:14 It's rare to see somebody who's so untethered to anyone. And Boze really just comes in and goes with her gut. And I think a lot of times like a new girl, even if she's not being courted, but like if she is like goes to where they think the audience wants them to go, it's always easier to go with the bigger group. And it's just like Dorit and Erica over here, like- And Erica's on both sides.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Erica's really on the fence. Right. To see somebody like so in control and like seriously making their own decisions, just based on judgment, based on gut, based on what they think is so refreshing and so rare. And also when Kyle was like, she didn't share this stuff with me and Bo's called,
Starting point is 01:05:49 sniffed it out in one second. She was like, it was the first thing she told me when she met me and they throw back to like- My husband's an alcoholic. They literally shake hands. She's like, I'm going through a separation. My husband's an alcoholic.
Starting point is 01:05:58 It's been really hard. And so Bo's just like- But this is your friend of 10 years and she's never told you anything? Bo's just does not believe Kyle that Doreen didn't tell her those things and she was right for that? No, it's like so crazy to see somebody with like such a gut instinct following that.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Their gut is right, but also just not being influenced at all by like TV or like, you know, Kyle's like the OG. Like who wouldn't want to be on team Kyle? Like she survived, you know, X many seasons. Oh, speaking of. No, and also think of all of the new people who have come on the show,
Starting point is 01:06:22 who have either stayed or left that like Kyle really doesn't go out of her way to get to know, cause she's like, it's mainstay here. She doesn't need the Anselier characters. And it's just so crazy to see her really going out of her way to butter up Bose when she's, and it's not working, and she's never even done that before.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Yeah. No, but she's really desperate. That's why she's hanging on to Garcellelle and Sutton and the scene when they were playing tennis where they finally like sort of addressed the issues in Kyle's marriage. Cause I guess like on its surface, Kyle really hasn't told us what went wrong in her marriage. She alluded to something like a breach of trust
Starting point is 01:06:59 in the reunion that she didn't get like, she just kind of like says these things and thinks that it's sufficient. But it's actually not. She alluded to it at the reunion, which I watched. That was the only time I guess that she's mentioned it. And I completely forgot about that until they played the clip,
Starting point is 01:07:12 because this season, as she tells the story of her marriage, she never, ever, ever mentions it. So at the reunion, her feet were held to the fire and she had to say trust was broken. That's all she said. But no, it's never come up to the point that I genuinely forgot that. And I've been here for all of it.
Starting point is 01:07:27 So the fact that like her safe place in this group is Sutton and Garcelle and the three of them sat down and Sutton brought up the fact that, what do you mean there wasn't fidelity? You told us, remember that thing you said once two years ago? And then Garcelle in her interviews is like, I mean, we've all like heard the rumors for years about Mo and Kyle.
Starting point is 01:07:42 So at least Sutton was able to lean on that thing that she said at the reunion to like back her up. It's like, oh, you said it. But I think there's so much more that is both known to the group and then also- And then whispered in the community. Whispers, but I think that they know stuff like through probably true sources, but also through Kyle.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Maybe off camera, Kyle has told them stuff. But the fact that they brought up, it was such a weird moment. Okay, I also, while I thought like it was funny, ha ha, Chuck E. Cheese, I also thought like Sutton trying to do something nice for Erica when like she was so awful. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:08:13 It was just like, and I know Erica, she's like accepting the graciousness, but also like never forgetting like who was there for her and who wasn't and who was awful to her. And Sutton really was. I thought that whole thing was so disingenuous and so weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Especially because it was spearheaded by Sutton. And there's ways to do a cute girls night out. I just don't, like Chuck E. Cheese just didn't do it for me. I can't get over it. Did you think that was sponsored? No, but they did make Chuck E. Cheese look pretty good considering Chuck E. Cheese has kind of been through it.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Do you remember that controversy with the pizzas? No, what? Like if you got a pizza at Chuck E. Cheese, and I through it. Do you remember that controversy with the pizzas? No, what? Like if you've got a pizza at Chuck E Cheese, and I can't get this out of my head. The pieces like don't line up perfectly in the pizza because pretty much they're like, when someone doesn't finish their pizza, they like take the old slices.
Starting point is 01:08:57 No fucking way. But you Google it. You'll see these like mismatched pizzas. So when they got their pizza, I'm like, are they eating someone's- Chuck E Cheese pizza controversy. You'll see it, they're like all different shapes. I'm like, Jackie, do you know who-
Starting point is 01:09:11 Shane Dawson. I know. I know that Shane Dawson brought this to light. Yes, in 2019, YouTuber Shane Dawson posted a video that claimed that Chuck E Cheese's recycled pizza slices. The video went viral and led to a statement from Chuck E Cheese denying the claims. So Shane Dawson's video presented photos
Starting point is 01:09:25 of mismatched slices on half and half pies, suggesting they were randomly placed and not a part of the same original pizza. He also claimed that a high school friend who worked at the restaurant confirmed these suspicions. Chuck E. Cheese denied the claim saying that their pizzas are made to order and that the dough is prepared fresh in the restaurant.
Starting point is 01:09:38 And Chuck E. Cheese explained that the misshapen slices were simply a by-product of their freshness. I just want you to know, like I know that Shane Dawson isn't like a trusted journalistic source. I can't help it that ever since that came out, I can't not think about it when I think about Chuck E. Cheese
Starting point is 01:09:51 and like that is so gross. That's so gross. Although the pepperoni pie that they showed last night was definitely cooked uniformly. I was like looking to see if the pepperonis lined up with one another and I'm sure like they knew that their pepperoni would be on TV. This would be a great moment to combat.
Starting point is 01:10:07 So they made an original pie. They definitely put their whole Chukosi into that. Yep, 1000%. But the stench remains for me. 1000%, I never even heard of that. That's so crazy. So like if two different people ordered a pie and they didn't finish it
Starting point is 01:10:23 and there was like three slices left here. They take their extra slices and they didn't finish it, there was like three slices left here. Oh my God. And it's like, they probably do that. So I was supposed to say, like I saw people on Twitter being like, oh, it's so funny. Like girlhood, housewives. That is not girlhood. And it was weird.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Like, and honestly, like for as much as Garcelle has been pissing me off, like she has so many redeeming moments. So Kyle, are you a lesbian? Like, thank you actually. It took someone three years to ask that question. Like, so I can't quit Garcelle because she really does, both her and Sutton, like they have redeeming moments
Starting point is 01:10:55 when they like say the obvious truths, but they get empowered by that. And then I think they like attack people like a little superfluously. And honestly, at the end of the Viper Room scene, when Garcelle was like, but Dorit like, how are you doing? And I love that Dorit was like,
Starting point is 01:11:08 are you fucking kidding? Like, why are you asking me that? I love that she said that and she explained it perfectly in her interview. When she's like, she sees the state that I'm in right now. If she even, one, she doesn't genuinely care how I'm doing because she doesn't like me. But even if she did like to ask me that right now,
Starting point is 01:11:21 when I'm at level 100, why? Yeah, and I'm sorry, Duree is like apps and I've never seen somebody like who's, like every season somebody is going through something, right? And like the women either attack or lift them up. I've never seen somebody who's like actively going through something so deeply and also slaying. Like everything, every fight, every argument,
Starting point is 01:11:39 she's like not getting beaten down. She will not go down with this shit. Yeah, yeah, she's- I won't put my hands up. And just like back to Chuck E. Cheese. Like I feel like they could have gone to like a bowling alley or an arcade, but like something about Chuck E. Cheese,
Starting point is 01:11:52 it's like, it's so for kids. Like there are adult- That's why it felt sponsored. There are adult entertainment, David Busters. But like, it was for kids, the crowns didn't fit them. Like what are you doing there? No, I'm in agreement. And like, ha ha, Kyle got up on the skeet ball
Starting point is 01:12:09 and threw the ball in the glass. Ha ha. You know? Ha ha. Yeah, so. Oh, also I love that they like immediately addressed in real time. Cause usually I feel like it would happen
Starting point is 01:12:19 after on social media and then part of the reunion, the vein. Yeah. And I liked that Kyle was like, knew exactly what was being said. And she was like, yeah, the last time my vein popped like that was, you're such a the reunion, the vein. Yeah. And I liked that Kyle was like, knew exactly what was being said. And she was like, yeah, the last time my vein popped like that was, you're such a fucking liar, Camille. And the flashback to that like actually brought me
Starting point is 01:12:32 so much joy. The vein was really popping. Yeah, that, yeah. It's not a good season for Kyle. One, I think in herself, like she doesn't really, I think she feels like lost because she's going through a lot. But two, like she's acting poorly within the group.
Starting point is 01:12:49 She is being a bad friend. And three, like the editors are not letting her get away with one singular lie. No, they're really not. So then it ends with like this text. I can't wait for the fucking reunion when they go back and watch. Dorit never said in Oceanside, wherever they were,
Starting point is 01:13:02 but that her and Teddy, I forget what it was she was accused of saying, but she actually, even Erica was like, Dorit, you did say that. She did it. No, no, no. But so then they go to the text message, which now Kyle is saying like that Dorit is bringing up
Starting point is 01:13:14 these texts with PK just to make Kyle look bad when she doesn't actually care. And I've really tried to like place myself in this situation of like- By the way, Dorit did not bring it up. What? She brought it up at the Viper Room. Garcelle did. No, I'm saying in terms of the group,
Starting point is 01:13:29 Garcelle made it a thing. She says it, her and PK Texas. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But then when it got to Dorit, she thought it was just the memes. And it's like, even if you're just sending memes. And so you really have to put yourself in the shoes of like, this is a couple that you're friends with,
Starting point is 01:13:43 that is a couple. Like the girl, we're close in there. The boys are close and the girls are close and we're all kind of friends. But it shoes of like, this is a couple that you're friends with, that is a couple. Like the girl, we're close in there. The boys are close and the girls are close and we're all kind of friends, but it's not like, I wouldn't say it's like Dana and her husband being friends. You know what I mean? So like really like a couple and really, no matter how many ways I think about it,
Starting point is 01:13:54 like if the woman of the other couple were texting the husband being like, I'm here for you. I will never tell anyone. And by the way, and both couples are getting divorced. Right. It is so at best unnecessary, at worst inappropriate. And then that she would have that picture up on her phone of Dorit giving them the hug.
Starting point is 01:14:15 I think that was one of the lowest moments of Dorit's life. That was right after the robbery, right? A hundred percent. And she's like hugging her friend. There was someone like literally just someone she knows. She's like no makeup, like just so distraught. Vulnerable. Vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Like I think if you know her as a friend, like you know that nothing about that moment was a pass at your husband. No, it really, and by the way, it couldn't have been because Dorit's husband was right there in the hug. Right, and then we do. And I could see Dorit like getting confused and like thinking that Mo's back was PK's back.
Starting point is 01:14:46 And I do think I said this last week, but like I do need to fast forward to the happy future between Moe and Pete, Moe and Dorit. Moe and Dorit, I agree. And maybe PK and Kyle should be together. Maybe that's where this is, like, maybe it's just a wife swap. I'm down.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Even though I don't see them. And Mauricio could really, Mauricio could really provide financially, like the sort of life that Dorit needs. I just crazier things have happened. Something to think about. And I feel like at this point, they maybe even if they had feelings for one another
Starting point is 01:15:11 that they never would have acted on, never. I feel like at this point, the world and even their spouses are pushing them towards each other. Yes, yes. Although because Dorit is not a bad friend, she doesn't talk to Mauricio. So they're actually like not getting closer because they don't text, they don't talk,
Starting point is 01:15:28 they don't communicate because it's inappropriate. I could see sooner, Kyle and PK getting together because they text all the time. And you know, I would never tell, like I never have. What have you never told? The text was so embarrassing. Like she thought it was just like a standard. You would have had to waterboard that information out of me.
Starting point is 01:15:43 And here she is showing. She thought that this was just a standard like text of support that you sent to someone. And if you were sending a text to someone to be there for them, even though you're on your wife's side of it would be like thinking of you, like want the best for your family, like, you know, always here for you.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Even always here for you is a platitude, fine. You can tell me anything I would never tell anyone. Just like I never have. What have you never have? And not to be like an even bigger conspiracy theorist, but did you find it interesting when she read that text for the first time to Bose? It was a screenshot of this conversation.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Like if you had nothing to hide, why wouldn't you just go to the conversation and scroll? Is it because there's so much- No, and it was like her text was the last one. So like, what was his response? So it was, it was cropped to a square. What was his response? Like not the full- And what was above it? So it was, it was cropped to a square. Like not the full- And what was above it.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah. Yeah. So I'm gonna think about- Yeah. So she thought she ate with that. And also being like, I would never show my phone. Like, and I understand that. Like I'm an adult. Like I don't have to like prove myself. And she's like, but I'll show you this one time.
Starting point is 01:16:37 First of all. Right. Like I'm gonna make an exception just to prove how right I am. Meanwhile, you're literally wrong. And to prove how wrong it is that you asked me to do this. I'm gonna do it. Right. I'm gonna do it. Right. I'm gonna indulge your behavior.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Do you think producers would ever let her get away with not showing? Yes. But then she would have to show at the reunion. Like, I feel like as part of this show, she had to show. And I think maybe if Dorit and PK like ever were to reconcile or anything, the first thing Dorit would do while PK's sleeping is go through his phone.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yeah. And also, let's, even though it's not just memes, what memes would the two of them be sending back and forth to each other that they have such, like I send memes to people. How many inside jokes you have. And like things where it's like we really like have common ground on something,
Starting point is 01:17:22 like same like funny, harsh opinion of something same like funny harsh opinion of something like what the two of you have in common that you can only share with each other that mo and durie wouldn't appreciate because they're so not aligned. Well that's the funny thing is like the season she's really maintaining like her and durie's friendship was like really never that deep and they actually like you know never spent time together but you have so many inside jokes and things to text her husband about. Wouldn't that imply, if you have any sort of relationship with someone's husband,
Starting point is 01:17:49 that would imply that like that girl is your friend. Yeah. So it just negates her whole argument from the beginning of the season and the Amazon live thing. And yeah, well, yeah, it all goes back to that. But that was just like such a, such an obvious like lie. You know?
Starting point is 01:18:04 Rude, yeah. Well, The Real Hostess of Beverly Hills, recap that you needed is that, and that is our show. That is our show. Don't forget to put your musical producer hat on. I just wanna say, I saw a breaking news notification having to do with TikTok. Oh, TikTok reveals when the app will shut down in the US.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Yeah, I think it's Sunday. The app is shutting down on Sunday. Oh my God, but what about our challenge? You guys get to work. Hashtag toast theme song. Put the challenge on Reels if you really want us to see it. I would recommend putting it on either platform, but if you put it on one and tag us and use the hashtag,
Starting point is 01:18:43 hashtag toast theme song, that will suffice, don't worry. But you only have until Sunday if you have a TikTok account. And like if you're putting it on one and tag us and use the hashtag hashtag toast theme song, that will suffice. Don't worry. But you only have until Sunday. If you have a tick tock. Like if you're putting it on tick tock, like definitely also put it on reels because you just never know. And if you want me to see it.
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