The Toast - The Kennedys and The Mongeaus: Tuesday, August 13th, 2024

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to The Toast. Yeah, that's right. The one and only The Toast. The Toast. The Toast. It's so crazy how my life revolves around bread, but it turns out that it always has. Like, it's toast.

It's so funny. I never think about the word toast other than to be like the thing in which we podcast. I don't associate our brand with bread. I really associate it with clinking glasses. Like, maybe that's the stage of life that I'm in. I'm still thinking about like champagne toasts, not bread and butter. No, it's both. Even when we're doing like a toast, it's a toast. It's really crazy to think about. Even when we were trying to think of a name for a sandwich shop, like the toast, anything to do with toast was so obvious. It's so obvious,

but we just, we don't embrace it so today is a fabulous day it is a day that you know puts me on edge because we were not the last people to use this studio right oh yeah you are like looking around like there's a ghost so paranoid just hold on one let me just check one thing there's a ghost of morons past ben was in here recording good guys actually with la turd yes i am on good guys because so we haven't even spoken about the sort of housekeeping announcement for the end of summer jackie and i are going on hiatus what is it the last week of august yes and so the good guys heard about that and they you know they're nothing if not exploitative i was gonna say opportunistic which is also mean um

and so you know ben was like oh the toasters are gonna be looking for you for a week why don't you come on good guys and he caught me in a low moment. You know, I was like, okay. And then yesterday. Sometimes you don't have a good enough reason to say no to something. And it's actually easier to say yes and just do it than to try and weasel your way out. And he, you know, he wasn't letting me out of it. He immediately sent a calendar invite, which was really crazy to do to your wife. And yesterday I'm laying by the pool, enjoying my swirly summer. And then, you know, my alarm goes off. Oh, it's time for Good Guys. So I'm on the Good Guys guys I hate to say it was a fabulous episode we were giggling oh and I did give an update that I did want to update it's only fair that I say this

so yesterday yesterday was plain awful you can say that again I don't know that one yesterday was plain awful but that's not now it's then together at last together forever got it um i told a story on the toast yesterday about bethany frankel and it is my civic duty because i did sort of like put a spotlight on this she made a tiktok like apologizing to john mulaney and i did find out like right after i recorded yesterday's episode that bethany told the event people that she wasn't showing up that she wasn't able to come two days prior. So they still put her name on chairs at John Mulaney. It's time to talk about the event people who have misspelled,

who have left empty chairs of people who two days before said that they weren't coming. So she, I don't know how Bethany heard that. I'm sure somebody told her because there was like thousands of people at the event. And she made a TikTok yesterday being like, I'm sorry to John Mulaney. Something happened to me two days before

and I was having such bad anxiety that I canceled my plans for like the rest of the weekend and I told she said I told the people that I wasn't coming and you know what that's fair that's valid and I think that's really unfair to Bethany maybe they knew Bethany Frankel wasn't coming but they thought Bethany Frankel was coming maybe maybe and can I just say not to make everything about me like I was slightly relieved that she didn't show up because like how could you have focused on John sitting next to Bethany? Not only that, like she's kind of scary. Like she's this major, like big personality.

Like I feel like she's intimidating. Scary is the wrong word. And I was like low key, like relaxed, enjoying the show without Bethany. Yeah. Like I, she's just sort of like legendary in her own sort of way. And I'm not going to like, yeah, I was afraid to sit next to her. And Ben was like, do you want me to sit next to her and you can sit on the other side and I was like no that's the worst thing would you have wanted to chat to her as they say on Love Island UK um what if what

if I wanted to pull her for a chat yeah no you wouldn't have no I feel like you guys would actually get along no for sure like I don't get it twisted like if I I am Bethany at her age like I'm on my way to being Bethany hopefully I I have a house in the Hamptons. Like, yeah, hopefully I built the empire that she has built. Like hopefully God willing, like I would love to be Bethany, but you know, it's, that's the hard part of this job.

It's like commenting on people and things and then having to see people and things that you talked about. Yeah. So I feel like, yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

People and things. Yeah. It poses sort of a complicado situation. And what's so crazy it's not even the extremes like it's not even i'm worried about running into justin baldoni like i would be completely fine with that it's like people that you've just spoken about period it's weird to talk about someone and then to know them oh my god that's it like even if you said totally innocuous nice things about them it's like you were talking about me on your podcast and

you're now i'm having lunch with you like that's's wrong. Oh, speaking of, I don't even know why I just thought of this. I have to thank you. So we've been swirly summering for like 11 weeks. I have read as of, as of yesterday, I've read one book and I started it a week ago. Like I completely, even though I thought this was going to be like my big summer reading week, whatever. I mean, summer reading, whatever. I just haven't been pulled to my Kindle. I haven't been reading. And then I forced myself to read. I had AI pick a book for me and I asked chat GBT to recommend something. And it was a piece of shit. It was called the last house guest or whatever. It was bad. Like what did you rate it? Two. Oh, that's really bad. Okay. Yeah. Then I was looking for a book, looking for a book and I was just ready to give up and like go smut,

which like whenever I can't find a book, I just give up and go smut. And it's like, not what I want to be reading. Yeah. Jackie made a recommendation. I was like, you know what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll read by baby. That was a redhead choice. And it was the same author as tell me lies. It was like her big book after tell me lies, which was huge. And then made a TV show. Obviously, let me tell you, this book is the best thing that's ever happened to me. It might be the best book I've ever read. I'm in like, I don't want a podcast. I want to read like the book is so good and I need help from the community. I people to tell me like what genre is this because this book reminds me of it's like influencer fiction it's influencer lit it's like mean girl lit like

one of the main characters is like bitchy and funny and mean and that's really why I liked luckiest girl live main character she was so funny and bitchy it's like wine mom lit is it no because I feel like no that also includes a million other things like Leanne Moriarty, who we love. Yeah. But this genre, like Eliza Starts a Rumor, Bye Baby, that one husband with the lipsticks on the cover, Hunting Lives. Yeah. This book reminds me.

Bitchy mom lit. Influencer. Because one of the girls is an influencer. Bitchy mom lit with an influencer in the mix. And I don't know the author's personal life, but like the way she totally nails like momfluencers, micro influencers in New York, the New York, the rich women of New York,

where they go, what they do, like the casual. And it's not so obvious. It's not like they're going to like the plaza, like what you think of when you think of like rich New York. It's very niche. And also very current. Like if you read the book in a few years, those places might not even be open anymore. Yes, but like they're doing core power and Melissaissa wood right she's not like soul cycle which we all

know everyone goes equinox like yeah it's a very insider and i love that i'm like i'm so excited to see who gets a name drop next like next i know she's gonna be listening to the toast like it's very um on point in the references so we did we read by baby for the redheads oh and i cannot wait to listen to the redheads we had a conversation about the references by baby for the redheads oh and i cannot wait to listen to the redheads we had a conversation about the references because some of the redheads did not like that and surprisingly margo doesn't like it and i was like but margo it's literally you go to core power you go to these restaurants she was like it's too close to home i think it's weird i'm like oh i like it i think it really sets the stage and it really helps me picture these fabulous grammar

young moms and I actually I'm not a mother and I don't know you know the experience of becoming one but I feel like she kind of nailed because this is a person who's like so vapid right Cassie the character though you go back in her childhood she's like the worst right she breaks up with the guy because his house in Aspen was really small like like she's super shallow and that's not a person you would think is capable of like deep like that and she mar very rich. You think she would just like pawn her kid off on a nanny. But she even before like the traumatic thing, she's such an involved, emotional, connected mom.

I feel like she nailed what that experience is like, too. Yeah, she is kind of shallow, Cassie. But like, it's not one that kind of it's not one dimensional like that because it's not like she's shallow in all regards. There are levels of depth to her. I also liked in the beginning when Cassie's like going about her evening like she's shallow in all regards. There are levels of depth to her. I also liked in the beginning when Cassie's like going about her evening, she's like, I should just like hop onto stories and like update everyone. And they put in quotes like what she says.

And it was like, hey guys. Just popping on here. Just popping on. I got this amazing nightgown that I love. I just want to say goodnight. Like the way it was written. Size up if you are. No, she nailed influencer culture.

Some books when they talk about influencers, it's so cringe. And it's like clearly lacking a knowledge on the subject no this girl this author definitely is like an influencer in her life like just the way you talk and the way you this association you have of your phone like it's really I'm loving the book it's like reinvigorated my love for reading I've literally read 10 books this year which sounds like a lot but it's not no I'm in the same place I've only read Red Hood's books this year I just finished Love and Other Words by Christina Lauren which is probably one of my top three favorite books and Jackie didn't like it no I I didn't dislike it I just didn't connect with it the way that you and Margo did but I wanted to read another Christina Lauren book because we read

Paradise Problem for the Redheads by Christina Lauren I didn't like I liked it a lot you should read it it's good I didn't love it but I was like I want to read what Chris people love about Christina Lauren so I read Love and Other words and it was exactly right for the moment a few days worth of reading great and then I now I'm in a reading mode too I feel like we've like shifted maybe because Olympics are over we have like time for reading so I had to go to my TBR list of like what have I even been wanting to read there was one other book that I wanted to read this summer and I chose it for redheads next because I don't know when I would read it. Right. And I only read redheads books. So that's husbands and lovers by Beatrice Williams. I actually saw Margo started

it. I was like, you're starting the redheads book. It's for October. She was like, this is the redheads book. That's classic Margo. So she had to stop, but she said it was really good so far. I just did want to ask people, like, I like this book. What is the genre? And please, if you know of similar books, like rich women being bitchy, maybe a little Instagram in there. Love New York, but I'm open to other things. Please drop it in the comments. Like let this be a stream of consciousness of people's like book recommendations and thoughts. Yeah. But so far the running list we have by baby, you know what this book reminds me of, but I, and I liked it. People like us, the Jenny Mullen one City of

Likes is what it's called and yes that's exactly what I was gonna say there is another book called People Like Us about an influencer but I don't think it's very good yeah no it reminds me of City of Likes the only problem with City of Likes is I fucking hated the main character so much to the point where like it stopped me from enjoying parts of the book whereas like there are times where I actually like Billy and there are times when I when I like Cassie they're both like flawed people obviously there's a kidnapping involved but like there are times when I, when I like Cassie, they're both like flawed people, obviously there's a kidnapping involved, but like there are parts where I like them and giggle. So it's, I'm really enjoying it. I'm so glad I am in a totally different spot. Now I'm reading a nonfiction book called bad therapy. And it's about like the crisis of self in the gender,

new generation of just like answering the question, like we have more mental health services than ever. Mental health is the biggest it's ever been as a topic like we're constantly servicing stigmatizing wellness this and that why is this the most unhappy generation depressed anxiety and filled generation of all time like how is that the case yeah i feel like we always ask that question but nobody aims to solve it it's just like is but that makes no sense because like medication if it's successful like would decrease the problem not preside over its increase right and what is the book conclusion well i'm 30 percent of the way through but like the conclusion is sometimes i mean there's a lot of different things but most of these mental health counseling there's

counseling in schools it's counseling everywhere and like sometimes you need to just like repress and move forward oh like not every feeling needs to be talked about all the time because then you stew in it and feelings aren't like these intrinsically like reliable things also feelings are fleeting emotions are very like fragile and sometimes your emotions are are not a clear indicator of what's going on it's just like a personal thing that's how you feel it doesn't need to be not every single emotion needs to be given into like, you'll make yourself sick and make yourself crazy. Yeah. That's how I feel about like marital problems and not like problems, but like when you fight with your husband, like, and because Ben and I, oh my God. Okay. So yesterday Ben and I went for a hike and then you text me and you're like, oh, we're at the farm.

Like, do you want to come? So we met you at the farm and like Ben had already taken off too much time for the hike. So he was like, listen, like I got to get home. I'm like, just drop me. And between like the navigation and then the traffic and then him dropping me and too much time on the way back, we were like getting like a little pissy at one another, like really so dumb. But like he was arguing like with himself, let's not get into it. And whatever, an hour later we get home. We had such a great time at the farm. We ate roasted corn. We got, you know, fresh things for the house. And we're like back to our regular. We're not like fighting anymore. And it was like so stupid.

But he's like, listen, I just want to like clear up like what happened. I'm like, actually, what if we just didn't? Because unless you feel so strongly like about this argument in the context of our marriage, like this is one that I think we should just move on from. Like it was like high anxiety. I couldn't find the GPS. You were stuck in traffic. You like it was just Romeo was in the car being so fucking annoying like what if we just chalk it up to like

you know stuff that happened that doesn't need to be talked about and of course he was like no let me just say let me just say i'm like okay but i just said like you know not everything like it's okay to swallow things to be like dissected it's not a indicative of a larger issue like you're allowed to have a bad moment like sometimes like we're speaking different languages yeah no that literally happened to me last night that happens all the time and just like accepting like this doesn't mean like this isn't an indictment on our marriage it's just like oh we had a stressful moment okay we're human beings yeah no with and like a lot going on right no that's kind of like my new thing every time ben speaks and maybe it's just me silencing him i'm like before you talk and i'll 100 listen i promise are you 100 sure that this is like an before you talk, and I'm 100% listen, I promise.

Are you 100% sure that this is like an argument you don't want to just swallow? Because it doesn't have like a major implication on our marriage. And 10 out of 10 times, he's like, yeah, I'm sure. Like, I want to talk about it. I'm like, okay. He hasn't like reached this level of enlightenment. He thinks I'm only doing it to him.

Like in that, if I have a feeling, I'll talk about it. But no, I just swallow it and move on. Right. I don't have like a referendum on the swallowing. but you should now write down all the things that you've swallowed except that's you holding on to it so we talked about that let it go or else it will eat you up inside but that's part of this book also um wait just really quickly we talked about that on good guys last night because Josh Peck like said this phrase and I didn't agree with it like there are two people in a marriage one who's keeping score and one who's losing. And I feel like the person who's not keeping score is

winning. Like I'm not keeping score. I didn't agree with it at all. And we went back and forth like talking about it. And I, I don't keep score. Ben does. He, we just had this conversation. He was like, well, you do that the other day. I'm like, are you seriously keeping score? No, I don't keep score. And then when I, but I I'm like you've done this or that before and they're like when I'm like I had to let it go to survive so like because I didn't keep score but like yeah not keeping score will set you free people who ask for examples in arguments like seriously I the devil no but I don't know I'm not an encyclopedia but you did that shit but I ask for examples sometimes too like I need citations by the way you ask for examples a lot you're like like when no because I want to know yeah because I like that way I can know what you're freaking talking

about and I want to say I understand why people ask for examples in an argument like obviously you can't just say anything of course of course of course but seriously fuck off like it's so annoying no I'm fine with you asking for examples it's a good question I just I can't give them to you because I had to let them go you're like all those examples i swallowed them so they're no longer in the room with us oh my god just know they were there jackie there's a trend going around on social media i've been meaning to tell you about that's so you coded have you heard it no very demure very mindful no so it's all about moving through life in a very demure very mindful kind of way it's like see how i get how i see how i show up for work very demure very mindful people just share things throughout It's like, see how I get, how I see how I show up for work. Very demure, very mindful. People just share things throughout the day. Like when they're just

being like little cute little girlies. Like let me think of an example. Like I just saw one, see how I exit the plane. Very demure, very mindful. Like everybody's standing like an animal and you're just sitting waiting for your turn. It's literally you in a trend. Like see how she podcasts, look at her little cross legs and a little hand. See how she podcasts. Very demure, very mindful. I like that trend. I know. And the person who started it is so funny. It's a great trend. And I think it's also a great thing to be encouraging young people to be, you know, demure and mindful. I would agree with that, but just don't be too mindful. You know, there's such a thing as too much, which also is what I'm learning from this

book. And also like just so many things I would recommend this book to anyone who like this remotely sounds interesting too it's like I want someone else to read it just so I have someone to talk about it with because it's fascinating stuff and I think there's a lot that we can learn because I think there's a lot that we're getting wrong as a society like even if someone's struggling like sometimes it's you shouldn't like set the bar lower for them because they're like going through something if anything high achievement will make them feel good about themselves as opposed to like thinking that they're deficient. Yeah.

You just sounded like I'm laughing because you just sounded like somebody like at a fat camp, like high achievement will make you feel good. And then it reminded me I was just watching a podcast clip. No, I know it's like, it's like so gnarky to say, but it's true. Like kids these days, like go to college and they're scared to go to college. They're not even getting, I can't like, you you know I can't speak on this but my experience is different they're not even going out and getting their licenses because they're just like scared of everything okay but like I said you sounded like somebody at back camp and I saw a story today I'm

sure you didn't pick it about Elle King I did not pick it she went on a podcast and like really spoke very openly about her relationship with her dad a lot of people don't even know that she's like quote-unquote a nepo baby I don't think she associates with that because she like did it completely she did not want people to know who her dad was she changed her relationship with her dad. A lot of people don't even know that she's like, quote unquote, a nepo baby. I don't think she associates with that because she like did it completely. She did not want people to know who her dad was. She changed her name. Yeah. Her dad is Rob Schneider from like all the Adam Sandler movies. Um, and they have a very complicated, I want to say bad relationship. However, she shared, and so many people tagged me in this TikTok clip that she, um, at a young age was sent to a fat camp. And, um, she said there was a summer, there was a summer there was a summer

where she sprained her ankle or like broke her ankle so she really lost no weight because she couldn't do any physical activity and she got in so much trouble from who from her parents of her dad i guess it's like a waste of money but her dad was really hard to sprain her ankle no of course not even though like if you went to fat camp and you knew the culture like a sprained ankle was seriously like the best thing that could happen to you you got to sit out of everything and if you went to fat camp and sprained your ankle seriously like the best thing that could happen to you you got to sit out of everything and if you went to fat camp and sprained your ankle you would still lose weight through the program it's not just from the activities it's also from the food i did want to know which fat camp she went to well they where'd

she grow up la right so there's a one out there yeah it was like a sister to ours a sistered a sistered um so yeah you just reminded me of that sorry so we're both on our reading grinds couple of bookworms what can i say what are the vibes of the stories today i actually didn't really random but deeply interesting each one like it's five that could have gone in any order probably um and each one is its own world i would love to just put out there for episode titles random but deeply interesting. That's so us. That is so us.

Today we're going to talk about like the craziest, dumbest things happening on the internet, but also like, are we over-therapizing Generation Z? We are. That is the moral of the story. Like you don't always have to ask someone how they're doing because more often than not, that's a leading question that will, nobody's happy all the time. So true.

When someone asks how you're doing, you're inclined to say, oh, well, you know, my foot hurts. Yeah. My foot does. And then like, if you're, if you are stuck in that moment, like you're like, Oh, I am in a bad way. Like today's going to be a bad day. And it can change the course of your day. Yes. And also like what they're doing in schools, the counselors, but, but Jackie, what you're doing, they're not counseling. what you're talking about really feels a lot like mindfulness right like you mindfulness is a part of joy like and how your days can unfold yes but like you don't need to be mindful every minute of the day why don't you go do something and have fun yeah yeah yeah again work for work at something and make yourself feel good about that totally um yeah i love that i

really do you should read the book it doesn't sound like of interest now i'm getting to a point where like i feel like i got the point yeah yeah she's kind of like harping on the topic she's like showing all these different examples which it's like but i get it now so i feel like anyone even if they just read like the first 20 would be like oh damn, damn. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So it's good stuff. I feel like we should dive in. Oh, my God. How the time has just flown by. What did we even talk about?

But we also started recording like a few minutes before we were ready. So that maybe was like six minutes. So no, it was four. I checked. Oh, it was. Oh, okay. Okay, cool. So now without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

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epic family feud is revealed. I can't believe this story is in the news. Like there is a new book about Aaron Rodgers coming out. It is called, what's it called? Something, that mystery of Aaron Rodgers. And his parents gave an interview for the book. Wait. So like literally, this is what it is.

That is so messy. Aaron Rodgers stopped speaking with his parents in the winter of 2014 when his girlfriend, actress Olivia Munn, was living with him in Green Bay. parents in the winter of 2014 when his girlfriend actress Olivia Munn was living with him in Green Bay. Ed and Darla Rogers had visited their middle child before an early December home game and enjoyed a pleasant conversation with the actress. They left town believing that there was no problems among them. Rogers then played a dreadful game at Buffalo, posting a career-worst 34.3 quarterback rating and a 21-13 defeat. According to sources, Olivia Munn called his parents that night and blindsided them with an angry rant about their plans to see Aaron again when the Packers played at Tampa Bay before

Christmas, a game that the Rogers family members planned to attend as part of a Disney World trip. The actress made it clear that she did not want her boyfriend's parents meeting them or attending the game. Ed and Darla explained that they had been attending Aaron's games since he was a kid and did not need her permission to continue doing so. She declined to comment for this book through a representative. Ed and Darla said that they did not make any disparaging remark that might have set her off. The only thing that Ed said was, quote, you haven't been on the scene very long. You're just his girlfriend. We're his parents. I mean, that's like a harsh thing to say. It's a harsh thing to say that obviously the mood was tense if he had to say that.

But it's not an untrue statement. I don't know. I don't know. But is Aaron involved with this book at all? No. So then Ed and Darla made the trip to Tampa Bay to see the game. They did not see their son, according to sources. He later sent an email.

Ed and Darla. I thought you were saying Ed and Darla. I'm like, is that the writer of the book? No, the parents. Oh, OK. OK. Ed and Darla. Aaron later sent an email to family members

that effectively said, don't attack the woman that I love. Then the book goes on to talk about all the other people that he's cut out of his life. At some point, he's just a cutter outer. Got it, okay, classic. And at the same time, Olivia Munn did not help her own cause.

The Christmas gifts that Ed and Darla had sent to their son and his girlfriend, rather than re-gift them to someone else or offer them up for charity, Munn insulted her boyfriend's parents by rejecting the presents. She wasn't interested in accepting any gestures of appreciation from them and sending them back to the Rogers home. Okay. I just want to say like family fights, like in-laws as those types of fights, like are so deep, right? And they're so crazy and it's I really cannot come to any sort of conclusion hearing from just one side of the family because there's Ed and Darla's side of the story there's Olivia Munn's side of the story and the truth is somewhere

in the middle right so this is how they perceived it but to me this story makes no sense and there's clearly like a little bit of context missing maybe there was an awkward like you don't say why did they randomly one day just say to Olivia Munn like you're just his girlfriend like what preceded that she randomly say to them you can't come to the game right that came before you're just the girlfriend so I feel like maybe if I read the book I would have a little bit more of a clue on the timeline of things but based on this summation it feels like big chunks of a larger story are missing and it's really unfair to come to any conclusions about what happened between Aaron and his family and like blame Olivia Munn if we're only hearing from his parents like of course you're gonna hear someone's side of

the story and it's like oh my god how could that happen to you yeah of course that's like with anything but at least we're getting now like incidents an incident report I don't know there was the 2014 game he they came he played badly she called and said, don't come to the game. There's obviously something missing. I don't think that she would just say, don't come to the game because he played badly. They've been going to his games forever. There's also something missing

because these two people have been broken up for literally 10 years and he still doesn't talk to his family. So at some point, the break between the Rogers family has nothing to do with Olivia Munn. Yes, but I think also the author's trying to make the point that once he cuts people out, they are cut for good.

It's the, he did it with a friend. They said, it's kind of crazy that Aaron Rogers is like at the level where like biographies are being written about him. Like that happens with like Harry and Megan. I agree. It's called out of the darkness,

the mystery of Aaron Rogers. That happens with presidents. Yeah. Like Harry and Megan. I mean, they get like silly books written about them. In most recent memory, like that's the last time I feel like something like this has happened. To me, it's like Elon. They wrote the book about. Yeah. Okay. Similar. It's a biography. This is kind of crazy, no? Especially if Aaron isn't participating. Right. It doesn't seem like sanctioned by Aaron. Right. Did Elon participate

in that book? He did. He gave him full access to everything. And then Elon never read the book. Got it. Okay. I don't know. And maybe I'm biased, which is definitely possible because I'm certainly in my Olivia Munn era. I don't know if I mentioned like I went to John Mulaney. So I really like the life that he sort of very subtly painted a picture of for us sounds

so nice. She sounds like such a great mom, a great partner. Like she's really funny. Like all the jokes he was making, like, I don't know. I don't see it. I'm not seeing it, but you don't think also I like bits and pieces of everyone in this story. So I'm, I am struggling to point a finger, but I, I never think it's just one person, but I also see the other side where it's like the Rogers family is a happy family. I know everyone gets, they're all tight. They all get along. Like that mom raised three successful I know everyone gets they're all tight they all get along like that mom raised three successful boys who are like high functioning good decent people from what we see like why isn't he connected with that family no and it's really it no you're right because my line of thinking I said

this yesterday about it ends with us like everybody's cool except one person well the villain is that one person that's really that's how I generally feel. And I would say like, it's a 99% accurate theory. Like, yes. But then I think there's also a degree that we can't understand, which is like the fame and how that might, I mean, we can understand. No, but by the way, no, it's fame in a sector that like all your other brothers are also trying to get into, right? Like Jordan Rogers was a college football player and like, yeah, he, I think would admit

he had like a bit of a failed NFL career. I think the other brother is also involved in football so now so when one person reaches like an elite level of the thing you're all striving for like does that make it weird yeah so also they're all involved in fitness the um the book talks about with Ed being a sports chiropractor on staff at whole body fitness where Aaron trained next door to Ed's office and with Luke using his brother's image to sell sports themed t-shirts for his apparel company and with Jordan a former Vanderbilt star following in Aaron's quarterbacking footsteps Munn had this to say about when she was talking about it on Andy Cohen's Sirius XM radio show about the Rogers always getting the answers about the Rogers family dynamic this is what she

said quote I do believe that family and fame and success can be really complicated if their dreams are connected to your success their work has a direct connection to what he does at the end of the day there's a lot of complications i don't think either side of the road is clean but i do not think it's but i do think it's not okay when you try to stand on someone's shoulders and then throw dirt in their face which is what i think they did with him oh damn okay so you know what this and then ed to that said she just made stuff up to make herself look good she said this family was dysfunctional before she met Aaron, which is bull. We were going to all of his games. We were staying at his house.

We had a great relationship. Nothing bad was going on. Darla said, I can think about showbiz families like that. Like the Kardashians climb all over each other for fame and stuff like that. They don't do that. That's not our family. Nobody did that. Okay.

Now you're throwing the Kardashians under the bus. First of all. Second of all, that also, you just reminded me. yes, my theory of like, if, you know, six people say this person's bad, like I'm always inclined to go with the six people. But also there is- By the way, I'm not even, by the way. Like sometimes I think someone's being ganged up on. Okay.

I usually think like if everybody says you're toxic, you're toxic, you know? But I think there's also another one of my theories about famous families. And I think Kiki Palmer talks about this a lot. Like when you make a lot, especially when you grow up middle class, even poor, and then you end up becoming this, like basically the earner of the family and you're technically one of the kids, it poses like a very toxic dynamic in the family. And a lot of people, Kiki Palmer was saying this, like end up on the outs with their family because of it.

So I don't know if my, you know, if six people say you're toxic theory can work here because the added conundrum of fame and yes, everybody else's career sort of being tied to like this success that Aaron has, it's complicated. This is something I'll never truly understand, but this is also like when people like, you know, go no contact with their families, right? Like you're, you know, you and your husband don't talk to the mother-in-law because they're toxic. Like if you talk to the mother-in-law, you'll, you'll see her side 1000%. If you talk to the daughter-in-law, you'll see her side 1000%. Like, I don't know, this is something I don't think there's a clear cut answer on. I completely agree. And I think that the fact that they spoke to this author in such a detailed way is a demerit in their column.

I agree. Like publicly, like Olivia Munn spoke publicly, Aaron has never spoke publicly about them because that's his family. Olivia Munn has, but she's not related to them directly and they're literally not even together anymore to speak on record about your son. And like that to me,

it is a demerit because it speaks to something in your nature. Like even if you don't talk to your kid, right? I don't know what that's like. That must be so hard. You still love them, right? Yeah. And you're, as as a parent like your gut is always going to be to protect them no matter what even if you've been spoke to him in 15 years like you watch them from afar and i'm sure you're proud of him whatever um to go on record and speak like permanently like in a book that's that's wild that's really wild yeah and super detailed they talk about how he

bought them a house they always wanted to live next to their good friends, the Rubies and Chico. Oh, they go in too. So when the property opened up next to them on Donald Drive, Aaron bought it for his parents as a surprise for $330,000. And built the house for them on top of the land for more than a million dollars. Like very, very detailed.

It's not taking the high road. No, that's really tacky. And the name of the book, Out of the Darkness and the Mystery of Aaron Rodgers, and he looks a little like he's got a grumpy face on the cover it's not a glowing yeah it's definitely you know trying to expose him a little bit it's not gonna be like oh aaron's great i just want to know why we're writing a book on aaron rogers like i mean think about his like in the context of all the football play like all the greats who are either like recently retired currently playing like I could think of like 10

people before him for sure maybe they do have books written about them but because it doesn't include Olivia Munn nobody cares yeah wheelhouse so true like I mean Tom Brady if there was a book like we would care because there is so much celebrity fodder but think about Olivia Munn is like she's winning she is happy she is healthy she's a mom she's living in orange county i don't think she leaves her fucking house like she's fine yeah like her man makes so much money fine she is fine and she's graduated from this drama it's not her problem you know like they're kind of like in the slums fighting it out and she's elevated like she's moved on yeah but it is a crazy thing and we were just talking about it yesterday we're just talking about it we're always like it comes up every couple of months because it's kind of one of the great mysteries

of the world and i appreciate this author's attempt to get down to the bottom of it but unless you're gonna speak to people on both sides you're really not gonna get like a well-rounded picture and i'm sure aaron won't talk about it i'm sure olivia won't talk about it will not talk about it and he wishes that nobody else would talk about and just respect the privacy which i don't know speaking on your son's memoir like without his permission like that's someone it's not a memoir it's a it's a third party biography the erring family dirty laundry like that's that's crazy so yes as you stated perfectly it's a demerit in their column in terms of like reputability so i'm leaning over to team aaron i have no horse in this race

you know me as well like i don't care like do what you gotta do i have no horse in this race but now just looking at it, I don't know. I think you need Shailene now more than ever. I think you need Shailene now more than ever. Somebody call Shailene. Somebody call Shailene Woodley. Aaron Rodgers has a Muckatans piece. Whoa.

Next up, Kylie Jenner is gracing the cover of British Vogue for their September issue. She's the first Kardashian to be on the cover of British Vogue, which she was pretty excited about and shocked by. She didn't know that. She thought for sure Kendall had done it. And she's talking about motherhood, fashion, family, and dating on the DL. So this piece is really centered around the fact that she is a fashion darling these days. They followed her at Paris Fashion Week. And we've been seeing that over the last two years,

ever since she had air, that she's really been like hitting the fashion weeks, you know, dressed Schiaparelli, like very much a fashion couture, girly, swirly. But not only that, the way that they referenced her in the article for so many years it was like the lipstick mogul the lip kit whatever legend and every time they refer to her

in this article they refer to her as the you know the clothing maker yeah they didn't even know how to refer to her there was one point where they were oh here it's like the reality star slash beauty mogul slash mother slash fashion week bombshell slash auspice of society's downfall. Literally the Kylie Cosmetics were not in the room with us. Like there was no conversation about it. No update. Like, and I know once you offload a company to like a major conglomerate, like it's no longer your thing.

Like nobody asks Bobby Brown about Bobby Brown makeup. She hasn't been a part of the company for 10 years, but Kylie's still like a 50% owner of the company. Like she still has a huge financial stake in it yeah to me this article was more so about her as a person not even the businesses yeah but even just the way they referenced her was like it was a clear positioning to me trying to make her out to be more now as like a clothing guru like she's referenced more kai yeah than kylie cosmetics yeah which was interesting because it makes sense for Kylie. I think Kai probably needs more promo and the place to promote Kai would be in a fashion

magazine. Yeah. You know, it is British Vogue. And I think Kylie Cosmetics stands on its own. But like, hey, we're doing fashion. Check out my fashion line. I watched this TikTok. It was a clip, like a pretty long clip of a conversation of these Australian girls. They have a podcast. They were talking about how they watched Keeping Up

with the Kardashians for the first time in a really long time. And it's part of this really interesting conversation where the girl was like, the show was just really insufferable to watch. It's like the whole season they are talking about how they never see each other because they're all so busy, so rich, their houses are too big, too far apart to walk over and see one another. The entire season is like, we have to get together. We have to plan a family trip. We have to, they plan a family trip. Literally like they're on the plane, like Kylie gets off. And they say like, by the end of all the episodes that they watched, the family had not even been together once this entire season. And the show just feels like this sort of drab, like responsibility, like this nuisance that they

have to participate in. And it got me thinking like about how I haven't watched the show in years. And I made a TikTok and I was like, are you guys watching Kardashians? Cause there was a time, and I'm not like a hater at all. Like there was a time in my life where like my life revolved around the Kardashians and I'm, I've been watching since season one, episode one on E like naturally. And the general consensus was like, no, like love the girls. Like I sometimes do tune in, but it's exclusively as background noise. Like I'm doing my laundry or I'm watching the kids and like it's on in the background. And it was so interesting to me. And I thought the girls did such a good analysis about like how the show has fallen as far. And I think a lot of people immediately

blame like social media. It's like, there's drama within the Kardashian universe all the time. And we know about it the next day. So to like see it rehashed like eight months later is kind of boring. Even though that's always been the case for them, right? Like there was a point where their show was amazing and they were talking about things that happened the year prior, but it was still really interesting. We were learning new things. But now it's like, and what the girls were saying was like,

they are all so wealthy. They're all so famous. And they're all sort of their own universe, their own media empire. And for so long, I think what everybody loved about them was that, yes, that was the case, but they prioritize family always, right? And they were always together, family dinner with the chef.

And like that has gone in. They almost like dislike each other. And that's the vibe, but they prioritize family always. Right. And they were always together, family dinner with the chef. And like that has, that has gone in, they almost like dislike each other. And that's the vibe that comes off in the show. And I found it so shocking. And I haven't seen the show, so I can't speak for myself, but everyone was sort of agreeing that that's the, the vibe of the show recently. Do you watch it? I do watch it. I like catch up in bursts and like that among other things is a feeling that I've had but I also find that it's like phony conversation like storylines them just having like stupid conversations or storylines which is what they did on old Kardashians but you would think that now like they don't need to do stuff like that and their show could be whatever they want so reality tv

has changed like when their old show was on like you could get away with those sort of plot lines like we were all new to reality tv now we're so clogged like you have to really be serving yeah and i do feel like the the best part of the show in the past and what it would be best right now is when they are a family like that's why people loved them i know i don't even need goofy silly like them hitting each other wrestling like i love just being together having dinner and the fact that they can't get together to do that but it does also make sense and that is the circle of life when people grow up and have kids you see your family less but their job is to get together so why can't they do family dinner all together yeah it would be good for the

show and it's good their kids are always together yeah and i recognize that everyone's really busy but is it really that hard to like find one day for dinner even if planet six months out yeah and i do feel like we're at this inflection point. But I agree that people don't seem to like each other. This season apparently Kim and Khloe are. Beefing. At odds. Which definitely would chip away from the show.

Because their relationship has been like so amazing over the last few years. That like. And while everyone is kind of like moving on from the show. They're growing. They have been holding it down. They've been like growing together. Yeah. That is shocking.

And I just feel like. And I felt this way for a while. We are at this inflection point with the Kardashians where they are at a level now where they will always be famous and they will always be rich, but they aren't interesting and they're not relevant, which I don't think makes them unhappy, especially Kylie. Like Kylie is a very complicated relationship. I think if anyone were to be bothered by this, like it would be Kim. I think Kourtney doesn't mind at all. I think she probably prefers it this way same with Kylie like they've made their money they live their life they all they care about is like you know staying home and being moms and the show has never been germane to Kylie's business she's been off of it for years yeah I don't know

and they're always like sharing like these graphics like number one most global watch Hulu show like there's no way no I think anyone can make any metric work for them yeah you know number one most global watch Hulu show among women 18 to 35 in yeah in the contiguous U.S. right in globally right right right it's so true metrics are fake I don't think those are lies but like they they could get so specific that like of course you're the number one most docu-series for women like yeah executive produced by women so that makes sense but maybe also at a certain point it makes sense for them to have their own shows like if kim had her own show about her role because she has so much going on but that would just be sad but the

natural course of life i guess but it just shouldn't have to be that way for them because they get to write their own script and the privilege of being so wealthy is being able to put family first. Right. But I spend every night with your kids. The thing is, though, they can spend their time how they want. Most of it. Like they still have to work, but they have free time. They don't want to spend their time together.

That's like therein lies the issue. What's coming through. Because if they did, if they wanted to, they would. You know, Kyla's still with Stas. She's got time for Stas. I mean, Nat and Liv with Kim. Right. Lala. Right. Khloe and Malik. Right. It's so true. If you wanted to, you would. Yeah. I don't know where we go from here, like with the Kardashians. And it's so funny how the landscape of media has changed so much since the time that they've been famous,

right? But they've always done this TV show, but the TV show hasn't changed. And like the world has. No, the TV show changed when they went to Hulu. Like it is different. It's really produced. Yeah. It's very much docu-series. It also, each episode is a commercial for one of their brands, which I don't mind if it's good and interesting. Same. I remember when the Chloe was doing like the good squad auditions. Like that's interesting to me. I would love to know how that works. I feel like the last episode I watched, I went to watch the season premiere of the new season. wound up watching last season season premiere and I was like I feel like I saw this before I was like maybe I saw it on Instagram because like Kim was doing a panel and she ripped her skirt and she was sitting there with her butt out and like she was like freaking out I'm like

I don't care yeah like you don't have another skirt yeah it's oh boohoo and it's not like it was the it was like a latex skirt and a black laser like you don't have a backup outfit yeah and i'm supposed to have my panties in twist for you yeah like i don't care i don't know where we go from here she owns a clothing line so true and i'm not a hater like i can't stress that enough like i've long been an apologist yeah so i think kylie's back to the story i apologize for the tangent kylie i think is of the current and i think everybody has their own experience with each of the girls like you go through your eras i feel like you're definitely in your kylie era and courtney i was gonna say

i think a lot of people are having like a courtney redemption uh-huh i like seriously she was ahead of her time she was ahead of her time and you know what a lot of the things that she used to complain about the family where we would all be like oh my god stop you're kind of seeing that reflected in this new show right yes but also she was ahead of her time in the sense that like she ever since she had kids she became like granola crunchy and it was like oh Courtney Courtney she literally makes sourdough like like avocado smoothie which I don't do that but like becoming a mom changed me too and maybe other people who had their first children around the same time that she did really related to her journey but now I'm like oh I'm

such a Courtney and that's like really a natural progression for a lot of women well that's the other thing about the Kardashians that people don't realize like even in their prime prime in terms of like fame and relevance they were always a lot older than their fans like I think a lot of people were always surprised when they read the ages of the girls. I mean, this is when I'm talking about like the height of the E! show. They've always been, and they were attractive to people like us. They're 10 years older than us. Yeah.

So they're sort of experiencing things not really at the same time as their fans. I don't think other 40-year-old women like are obsessed with the Kardashians. It's like 30-year-olds like us. And I think that makes it complicated for like when you grow up and your and your fans aren't there yeah you know yeah that perhaps happened to Courtney but now one she just had a baby and like it's with the fans who are 10 years younger and two we're seeing like oh maybe all those years yeah those years 10 years ago when she like had a baby and we weren't paying attention she was on to something right and that's like I feel like the listeners of this show are very much like in the same life stages as us, like getting married and having kids. And that's why

it feels like we're all moving, you know, along together. Yeah. But when there is this sort of there, cause they're like these hot, sexy things. And I've literally for the first couple of years, they were famous. I was like, Oh, they're 22. But when they were like super famous, like Courtney and Chloe take Miami, they were like 35. Like it was like confusing almost. So I think maybe that has a little bit to do with the disconnect but i don't know and i don't know where they go from here no and also kendall and kylie are younger than yeah then all that you know that that helped the business too yeah but they don't do anything the way that they should yeah they're both like business women in their businesses yeah but the pictures for british vogue are gorgeous it's very esteemed

as we've said like british vogue american vote could never yeah she's like reiterating a lot of the same talking points that i think she said in previous interviews about like the work that she had done on her face and you know being a mom to a daughter how that changes you she talks about her privacy she said that like i think she has a place in new york now and she's so incognito like people don't even know about that she like wears a hat and a mask and never gets spotted like she has her privacy down that's great like she can like go out and be a normal person go to the supermarket go to the supermarket she comes to New York to see her mans obsessed and she was like don't blow up my spot but like we get it done we get it done yeah I love that so I hope she can continue to do that same same same

so oh and her and Timothy were spotted getting off her plane they are still very much together and at this point they've been together for a very long time maybe they'll get married go into the chapel and they're gonna get married before you move on to the next story let me remind everyone that our final live show yeah that's right we've been doing live shows all summer the last one is here it's saturday it's aug's August 17th in Atlantic city. We are almost out of tickets. So I just want to remind everyone to head over to the toast podcast.com, get your tickets. I don't know if there's meet and greet still available, but it's like a little add on when you check out. So if it's there, feel free to grab one. We cannot wait to see you there. We've got some really fabulous things up our sleeve and it's just going to be, it's going to be, it it's gonna be a night to remember come on now big fun let's go jizz no let's go

let's go jizz no let's go jizz no let's go because it's a jizz no it's all right without you okay are you ready for our next story it's our third story yeah i'm ready speaking of disney channel icons disney channel star sky jackson has been arrested for domestic battery after a public fight with her boyfriend no seriously like what in the world sky jackson like randomly will make news and it's always shocking to me because she's just a little girl from Jesse. Yeah. No, to me, she's like frozen in a time capsule.

And anytime she does something like that's not something that a 12 year old would do. Right. You're like, why is that 11 year old getting arrested for domestic violence? Even domestic violence. Yeah. Like that's crazy. That's shocking. And then she also said to the arresting officers that there was no issue between them.

They're actually engaged and expecting a baby. Oh, mazel. Okay. So here are the details. Sky has joined the ranks of former Disney Channel formal child stars who've had run-ins with the law. She was recently arrested. TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ the actress was arrested last week for domestic violence. We're told deputies were called to Universal City Walk after security spotted Jackson and her boyfriend getting into it, and the actress allegedly pushed him more than once. Sources tell TMZ security clocked the altercation and then detained the couple until law enforcement arrived. Sources say Jackson and her boyfriend both denied anything got physical.

To the contrary, she said they were happily engaged and expecting a baby together. Deputies say they reviewed video footage and saw she pushed him. Jackson was arrested for misdemeanor, domestic battery cited and released a few hours later the case will be reviewed by the la county district attorney's office to determine if charges are warranted i don't know like a little girl just pushing a man that's like that's not domestic abuse i just want to say well i just want to say like for a woman to domestically abuse a man like sorry gender roles are what they are like we are different than men like it has like i'm sorry like you don't know we don't know anything about her man like it sounds like smaller than it sounds like one

little shove do you know how small sky jackson is like but he could be smaller than her i don't know like multiple shoves i think i just feel like there's some like something happened they don't just like go around arresting people certainly not in LA like they just let everyone do whatever they want it's true and considering this is going to the DA's office nothing will come of this because again they just let everyone do whatever they want not a little girl who's like pregnant you like leave the little pregnant girl alone and if she is pregnant and not just something you say to you know hopefully not get arrested it's honestly if that was just what she said like please don't arrest me i'm pregnant like honest brilliant like seriously an amazing i don't think she said please don't arrest me i think i'm pregnant i think she was like no we we're good

we're happy we're engaged and i'm pregnant yeah but i think like if if she's not pregnant she could have been using it as like you know you'd never bother a little pregnant lady you know it's kind of brilliant next time like i'm you know i just evading the law yeah there's a world in which like this was a nothing burger and they're being dramatic the description of how you described as me like really sounded like but like not only did they detain them when it happened they reviewed footage to confirm that like something nefarious happens like i do think it had to have been something because as i said like they really don't prosecute much around there. Well,

you know what? I need to see the footage before I make a grand statements. How about that? I agree with that, but there are two truths available. And I am aware that like women can be physically abusive towards men. It's extremely uncommon. And like from a physical standpoint,

quite difficult. No, but you may like, you have to know Sky Jackson. Like she's so tiny. She can't weigh more than 90 pounds. She's one foot tall. Yeah.

I think she's like five feet tall max. I just have one thing to say to this. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. So I went to the president of the Disney Channel's office and I said, we're going to make history together. Is that what Skai Jackson said? I'm so chronically online. No, it's this viral interview from Debbie Ryan.

Oh my God. Debbie Ryan. She's wild. Sometimes I get served chronically online. No, it's this viral interview from Debbie Ryan. Oh my God, Debbie Ryan. She's wild. Sometimes I get served Debbie Ryan interviews and the people who have memorized them and say them. No, no, no. I went to the office of the president of Disney Channel and I said to him, we're going to make history together.

I'm obsessed. She's insane. She's insane. She has become like a verb to Debbie Ryan it up, you know, like where you're just really cringe and overly personable and like, like really sort of erratic in your gestures. I kind of, it's very turdicoded. No, there's something so diabolical. It points to, and it was when she was much younger and she was doing like a lot of red

carpet interviews, but it really points to a lack of self-awareness and it's really cringe. And I'm sure she hates it. Sometimes the lesson, it's just like, say less. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. It's always a good takeaway. Leave a little mystery like Aaron Rodgers.

Literally. Anyway, Skai Jackson is five too. I don't know what's next year, but if she is expecting Mazel Tov and I hope that, you know, you and your mans. Can work it out on the remix. Can work it out. Before we keep going, let me let you know

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Thank you, Turdy Foll. You're welcome. Our next story, some interesting news. So one of Taylor Swift's, your ex-man is engaged. Okay, and normally you're like, why would we care what Connor Kennedy is getting into? So Connor Kennedy is engaged to a Brazilian singer, Julia B. Happy for him, Mazel Tov. They're like, genuinely, who cares? Nobody. But in the headline, also let me know,

Conor Kennedy, which we knew he was a Kennedy, Taylor Swift's X-Man. Of course, of course, you know, the house. Yeah. Holiday house. He's RFK's son. I didn't know that now rfk is kind of like a blind spot in my like knowledge like i i don't really know much about him and whatever but there's two interesting facts about him at first there was only just one and that's the fact that his wife is is larry david's wife from they share a wife and cheryl hines and the mom from rv my favorite robin williams and the mom from suburgatory my favorite one season wonder show. So to me, that was always been like a really fun fact about him. Like he's a Kennedy, whatever, he's running for president.

And like he's married to the lady from Curb Your Enthusiasm. Now, things are getting interesting. He shared dinner meals with Miss Taylor Swift. Okay, but he's not Connor Kennedy's, she's not Connor Kennedy's mom. Is she Cheryl Hines? No. Right. He's, she's like a second wife. She's a new wife. Okay, okay. Yeah not Connor Kennedy's, she's not Connor Kennedy's mom. Is she? Cheryl Hines? No. Right. He's, she's like a second wife.

She's a new wife. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, you know, but he would be, I mean, he's not going to win. I guess I didn't think about Cheryl Hines as his stepmom. Right. And he's not going to win, but like he would technically be like a Jenna Bush Hager if Robert F. Kennedy was the president, right?

Yes. He would be my date with the Brazilian singer. Right, right, right, right, right. That is so interesting to me. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how long and how deep Taylor's related. Do you think she was having dinner with his parents? I mean, she was writing songs about his grandmother,

RFK's mom. She was writing songs about his grandmother. She bought the house next door because she loves the family. And she loved that location so much. I don't think she was staying at the family house without the family that often. No, and you know, there's a lot of speculation that Taylor is going to come out soon and endorse kamala but i think a lot of people

are not realizing she's probably going to endorse her friend rfk i think people don't realize that she has a relationship a close relationship with another candidate i don't yeah no by the way that kind of throws a wrench in the whole thing and i think in all of her relationship with connor kennedy like it was never about him it was always about the family no not no but like all the songs she wrote on red like about like the lore of the family i think she was very much enchanted by it and i think robert was a part of that yeah she was definitely focused on like the kennedy of it all more so than the connor there was a lot there which is yeah i mean i said oh my what a marvelous tune and it's like bobby kennedy and ethel kind of yeah she definitely like went down a rabbit hole of like reading books and watching movies

about that time period and that family once she became like a small part of it. And that's just like so girly of her, you know? Like who's to say we all wouldn't do the same, you know? Yeah. A famous American family. Like seriously, we don't have royals. And the Kennedys for a very long time. Carolyn Bessette.

Like that was very much the closest we ever got to royals. And you become a part of it dating like one of the offsprings. I mean, it's huge. And I feel like when it was happening, we ever got to Royals. And you become a part of it, dating like one of the offsprings. I mean, that's huge. And I feel like when it was happening, we didn't even appreciate it. Like, I feel like if it happened now, like I would lose my mind. Yeah. But then it was like, why is she dating this? It's nobody.

And I thought he was like, I thought he was young. I guess he's 30 and she's 32. No, there is. I don't like to talk about it. Well, 1989. She's 35. I don't like to talk. I don't like to talk about it.

But there is like, you know, the haters of Taylor will say like she dated a minor. She was like 19 and he was like 17. Okay. Stop hating. Yeah. That's not legitimate. But I just want to say like. She's 34.

Don't be surprised if you see Taylor Swift baking up cookies that say RFK 2024 on them. You know? Right. And now we know why. And now we know why. She's loyal like that. You know? Yeah.

I just thought that was so interesting and not a fact enough people know about so I did not put that together with a family like that like you just assume they're all loosely connected they remind me a lot of the baldwins like you don't know whose dad is who's the direct descendant but this this is shocking to me I kind of need to see a family photo of them like just to really put this oh I guess like here's pictures of him and RFK showing their muscles and I feel like maybe at some point I had learned that I don't know why I thought this guy yeah that's him yeah and that's who she dated well you have to go look at pictures of them well back in the day he like really was very like New England all-american looking look here's a picture of them like he had shaggy hair he always wore like beach clothes because they were like 12. Yeah and she back in the day at the time where she

dated him used to dress very matronly. She was really conservative with her like buttoned up high-waisted bikini. High-waisted long you know t-length skirts. Yeah so they definitely looked like their age gap was bigger than it was given both of their aesthetics as well. Like this is the picture. That's the picture. Yeah. The red. She was in her polka dot era as well. She was dressing the part.

Like you have to respect the hustle. You really do. She's a chameleon. She is. Yeah. This one. Yeah. Wow.

Wow. Take me back. Literally. Because I feel like I didn't know what we had when we had it. We definitely didn't appreciate the cultural significance at the time. But she knew what she was doing. No, I'm telling you. She played the part. The high waist highways to bathing suits lots of polka dots

lots of bows in her hair headbands like she knew exactly what she was doing that girl let me tell you and i want to just say like i feel like for him she could have been end game because like he did marry a singer after he's like engaged to a singer yeah let me tell you i see him all the time what do you mean he's kind of like a man about town in new york maybe now he'll be moving to sao paulo but like he's always like every event like he's kind of just like a guy like he's always there oh he lives in new york yeah i was just in the elevator with him at zero bond like he's everywhere that's so funny that you even like recognize him no i'm like a freak loser like of course i would recognize him but they live in la or she moved to la to be with him oh that's

maybe they're always in you know those la folks yeah coast hopping i'm like waiting with bated breath for the fifth story the fifth and final story why what is it is it the one i texted you no let me see what you texted me oh because i've been waiting i'm like i wonder why she pushed this one to the fifth oh i thought we were talking about that no okay yeah honestly you wouldn't have liked what i chose for the fifth story about like one of your least favorite people who's one of my most favorite people well not your least favorite who julianne huff my girl oh my god we are not talking about julianne huff and what i the other story i thought we were talking about it yeah yeah sorry i didn't um i didn't see your text but yeah so there's some major drama in the influencer sphere. In the podcasting space. Influencing

and podcasting subset because Tana Mongeau has banned her co-host Brooke Schofield from filming podcast episodes and calls her resurfaced racist tweets horrific. Now I want to say I feel like that headline is really misleading because I watched the clip and she doesn't ban her but I think a lot of people were wondering so let me give you let me give you a play-by-play okay this is like a lot's been playing out recently, kind of slowly. But now it seems like it's all gone to a head. So there's the pod... Everyone knows Hannah Mojo, right?

She's been like internet famous for many years, a YouTuber. I think she had had a podcast before. It wasn't like huge. But she has this podcast now called Canceled. It's huge. And she hosts it with her friend, Brooke, who's like new to the influencer space. She came on the toast, you guys remember. Oh, yeah.

And the podcast is really blown up with the two of them. It's really big. They pretty much get on and like tell crazy stories about their life. And they, it's basically every episode they like talk about somebody who was wrong to them, whether it's like a friend or an ex or a relationship. And then people spend the rest of the week finding out who it is and like leaving comments on that person's page. It's actually very funny.

It's been really popular. Brooke has really taken off like in terms of growth on social, Instagram, TikTok. She is like a darling of Gen Z. I was so excited to get her on the podcast. And then of course, like any good thing, like Ability is a prison, they found her tweets. And they're from like 2012, 13. I think the most recent one is like 2015. And the, you know, this on the, the snowball and downfall is like the very typical cancel culture you know brands pulling out she had a collab with boys lie that was supposed to happen i don't know if it ever came out boys lie released a statement like is it not coming out i

don't know it's been this they made everything got the pr i oh did oh is that from that collection i think that's what you were wearing yeah oh i didn't even know um i don't think so actually i'm like 90 sure it's not the same one I think they were just sending us like their regular stuff okay I don't know if it's coming out it hasn't come out yet um not important so a lot of people because you know they're this duo and Brooke is really well known and it's very interesting if you're watching the landscape because Brooke I feel like was on her way to like almost eclipsing Tana in terms of Tana is Tana she's been on the internet forever, but like Brooke was just so fast, so furious, so popular. They just loved her. What was she doing before this podcast? Like she became friends with Tana and then it all happened like so quickly.

What was she like influencing? No, no, no. I think she said on the show she was a waitress. Just like a friend of Tana. Yeah. She had Tana at a party in LA, like very LA dream, you know, American dream. And so the tweets came out, like very LA dream, you know, American dream. And so the tweets came out, the internet does what it did. And it didn't help that in my opinion, as somebody who is an expert on this, like she handled it terribly. Like really, I think she was just reading every comment and then making a subsequent TikTok video, like crying, apologizing for this one. Like she was just trying to appease everyone. And if you've never been through a situation like that, there's no good way to handle it. But especially if you're so fresh to public life, which Brooke is like, this is all

relatively new for her. And I think she'll probably look back. The first video she made, she pretty much said like, I was racist because I lived with my grandfather. And if you know, Brooke, she has shared that like her parents were both addicts and her grandparents took her in. And I do think she'll look back on this time and regret throwing her grandfather under the bus. She's like, my grandfather listened to Rush Limbaugh. So I was racist. Like it's goodbye, grandpa. Like seriously, I've got things to do. I do think she'll regret that for real, but there's nobody can teach you how to, how to go through something like this. She's really young and I, and she just, she's keeps making it worse for herself. And I think a lot of people were like, well, what does this mean for the podcast? That's like her

main drag. What does this mean for the podcast? And is Tana going to say anything? They're like, Tana really can't say anything. What, is she going to judge her? Nobody has more skeletons in their closet than Tana. Nobody's been canceled more times than Tana. That's why their podcast is called canceled. No, when I saw that this was emerging before Brooke had said anything, I was like, oh, they're like, they're, they are canceled. That's their thing. They're getting in front of it because their podcast is called that. Like you can't cancel people who are canceled and who refuse to be canceled which I feel like Tana is one of those people so I was like this is not even going to touch them because it's not like they've ever pretended to be like the the people that haven't

PC like well let me tell you everything perfectly no let me tell you and this is where I think they went wrong so if you follow what their podcast is about recently they've kind of become like accountability police they're like calling people out for content they've made that they or how they acted at a party they'll go to a party with all they run in like the la influence everywhere they go restaurant party is influencer it's like what you think of when you think of youtubers and they've kind of used their podcast as becoming like a little bit like the accountability police like holding people's feet to the fire which you never want to be because you have to be a perfect person to do that. And even if you have the cleanest record ever, someone's going to come and be like, you bullied me in high school. Like, but both of them, there's, I would argue there are things that came

out about Tana that are worse than these tweets from Brooke. She is, you know, called people of color in her life, like bad things, like really bad. So I was like, there's no way Tana, Tana, of course, and Tana's having this unprecedented success because of her like really bad. So I was like, there's no way Tana, Tana, of course, and Tana's having this unprecedented success because of her podcast with Brooke. So there's no way she's going to throw Brooke under the bus. First episode comes out since the scandal, Brooke's not there. And we're like, oh my God, Brooke's fired. Brooke is not fired by the way. And I think that's what's misleading. People saw the clips and they're like, oh, she's off. I think Tana said, I encourage Brooke to take time off. She basically said like Brooke's tweets were horrendous. She condemns them. She like threw a friend under the bus, even though, you know,

she gave her the listen and learn. She, yes, she said unironically, like she's listening and growing when this was from 2012. Like she hit her with the L and L. She hit her with the L and L. And it was just so ironic. A coming from somebody who has worse things to apologize for. And B coming from somebody with the name canceled in their podcast. Like I thought that they had named a canceled. I'm like, you know what? That's kind of brilliant strategically because they're taking their power back. The nature of talking is that you're going to say something on this podcast that's going to get you canceled, but it's a canceled podcast. You can't cancel the canceled podcast, but they are so playing into like influencer. It's a trap that

they've just walked right into. It's like cliche how they're, they're being like, we we're listening and growing like it's really kind of corny how they're responding like very disingenuous and very what what like skits are made about when it comes to influencers and apology videos the crying like it's almost like they don't deserve to have their podcasts be named canceled because they're literally like i thought the name was like a sardonic play on cancel culture. When in reality, they're sort of reacting in a very stereotypical influencer apology kind of way. When I thought like they were like renegades with this podcast title. Yeah. The whole saga has been so interesting. And I think it's been like a real playbook in what not to do.

Like they're, you can't do it in this situation can't but i thought that playbook was already written like and i feel like something like this hadn't happened in a while and i feel like we all have kind of been fatigued from this like some of those they're over 10 how old is she 12 yeah literally 12 like i can't believe that and when i first saw this this was coming out i was like oh people aren't gonna like fall for this. Like we know that this is what we've evolved. This is what people do. Like it's so long ago and like people change and you know that it's not like she needs to change today because if you listen to her podcast today and you like the things that

she says, then you know that she's a good person or at least a person that you agree with most of the time and not a bad one. So it's not like she needs to listen and learn now. When over the last 10 years, I'm sure she's changed a lot as a person. And I feel like people get that. This has been going on for so long so like I think to me what's the most shocking it's like we're still doing this yeah but this and this is I think when you when their podcast became what it is which is like calling other people out yeah no they've put themselves a target you put a target on your back in a glass house no it's like every person they've sort of

like dragged in recent weeks it's just like belly laughing to the bin what's clinton kane doing no clinton kane i didn't mean they had the thing with like elissa violet like every and for for smaller crimes in comparison to what's going on now what was elissa violet i don't know i don't watch i just know that they had like some beef with elissa violet and then elissa violet just made a tiktok being like and stay winning in the comments where like girl sit down like stop i'm being seriously like sit down because like it's it's a glass like it's yeah you can't. Like, just stay out of it. Just stay out of it. Not everyone needs to, like,

come on and everyone and dance on everyone's grave. Like, it's just unnecessary. I look at this from a business perspective. It reminds me a lot of Call Her Daddy, right? This huge female podcast

with two co-hosts. And Brooke is now off and the show was huge. Like, the numbers on YouTube are a million per episode and that's not, and they're, I think, known for audio episodes too. So this are a million per episode and that's not, and they're, I think known for audio episodes too. So this is a huge podcast, a huge moneymaker, but Tana owns

the podcast outright. Like, I don't know how Brooke was making money. Maybe it's like she gets paid per episode or a cut, but like the brand is owned by Tana. So Tana can do as Tana pleases. And that means like kicking off Brooke, like sure. Yeah. That makes sense. Cause she started the podcast without her and then like hired her as a co-host. And so at the outset, that makes sense. But now knowing they're 50 50 in the work that they do and what they contribute to the show, it's crazy to think that like Tana is her boss. I want to say like it makes no sense for her to kick Brooke off permanently. Like that would be bad for the show, considering the show is successful because it's the two

of them. But like these two are seriously making every wrong move possible. So I wouldn't put it past them to not see that. But like, come on. No, it's the two of them but like these two are seriously making every wrong move possible so I wouldn't put it past them to not see that but like come on no it's been frustrating to watch because have we like seriously and I cannot believe like people are still out here not deleting their tweets like have I taught you nothing has my experience taught you nothing like I'm in shock it's yeah I just can't believe that it has the power that it that it once did because I I feel like people have started to like see past it and just understand that like people have changed over time and everyone like makes mistakes when they're younger.

And putting something on social media when you're in high school for like attention and for likes, like you don't even know what you're saying. You don't have the gravity of words. You're a moron. But we're applying that to like somebody 10 years later who's lived a whole full life since then and blaming them. Like, no, I mean. I thought that as a society we had moved, we had worked through that. I thought we had to, I thought like, you know, it no longer had power, but I think it does. And that's what we're seeing play out. And, but I also think when you handle it the way that

they've handled it, it gives it more power. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think there was a world in which they could have just addressed this head on together in an episode being like, boom, oh my God, this is so embarrassing. Obviously not reflective of how I feel. Now you guys know me, like you guys have met me. If they just tackled it really direct. And I think that's what happens. And I was guilty when, and actually no, I think this happens a lot where things resurface very slowly and the influencer doesn't acknowledge it because they're like, okay, it's not at a level yet. It's it'll go away. It'll go away. It'll go away. And then it's like weeks and people are talking about you're extending the period instead of just boom nipping it in the bud being like oh yeah no i said that shit humiliating like oh my god i could die obviously i don't feel that way

anymore and like if you read that and it upset you like that sucks i'm so sorry i would never want to be that boom done the end in a genuine way not like waiting for it to get to a place where you have where it's unignorable yeah that extends the life of the scandal first of all and second of all it makes you look disingenuous because it makes you look like you're only responding because it's at a point now where it's unignorable yeah that extends the life of the scandal first of all and second of all it makes you look disingenuous because it makes you look like you're only responding because it's at a point now where it's unignorable whereas like not because you actually care yeah so there is a rule book to all of this there's just like some it's some better practices yeah but it's been very interesting to see it all unfold and when tana showed up on that podcast alone my jaw fucking dropped because like do you think and that's, I don't know if they're this smart,

but like, do you think that that is also a play to kind of. To minimize? Like this podcast is everyone's talking about it. And they were talking about it a lot before. No, to maximize. No, no, no, no. Like Tana showed up alone, your jaw dropped. No, no, no, no.

Because like, no, I'm telling you when you're an influencer and like, all you care about is like what people think about you. Right.'s like great but it's not no no I know that but like no but nobody wants to be associated with is press like everybody is talking about their podcast and these labels follow you forever yeah like racist transphobic like nobody wants to be called that and by the way she didn't have transphobic tweets I was just saying like those types of yeah of words when you say something where either you don't agree with it anymore or it gets taken out of context or you feel like maybe people maybe misunderstood what you said they call you x right they'll call you racist and those labels stick with you forever nobody wants that

there's no no I'm not saying that they want it but like they're leaning in no I don't think that they are because based on everything else that they've done like they're not really like like doing anything to better their situation but I'm just saying like her showing up alone is kind of a bobshell and like everybody's talking about this podcast yeah whereas a lot of people were talking about it before but now it's like reaching differently I'm just saying like no it's been really interesting to see the whole thing unfold I don't know where we go from here and I'm curious if Brooke was like, not sometimes like it's so embarrassing when it happens.

You don't want to go on your podcast and have to explain yourself. And you've just been crying on the internet. Like I could see her also being like, Tan, I can't do it. Like, I don't know if Tan is like throwing her onto the bus with Brooke's approval or just throwing her onto the bus being like,

girl, get away from me with that stank. I have no idea. I have no idea. Like who they are. And they're relatively new friends. You know, it's not like, you know, they're relatively new friends you know it's not

like you know they're friends i'll take a bullet for you right like it's like go with grandpa yeah i don't know where we go from here but i just think if you're someone with a platform or someone who hopes to become an influencer one day i would look at this as a case study and what not to do yeah i can't even think of anybody and that's the thing also when your is female focused, like your cancellations, whether it's something big or small, they get dragged out more like women participate more in cancel culture than men do. And that's why when you think of all the crazy things men say on their podcast or men, you know, how many men who have old tweets that you know of you don't, and I'm sure they do have old tweets. They just don't get resurfaced as much. Yeah. And they're super young, right?

Right. Very. And I don't don't know i don't know how old tan is i feel like she's similar age to me but their audience is very youtube tiktok gen z yeah yes so maybe for all of them like this is the first time it's happening that they're seeing something like this first through the wall is the bloodiest yeah yeah so we'll see what happens yeah what do you think We'll come back on. What's your prediction? I mean, I do think she will because they have this tour coming up to have a big tour. And Tana's not stupid. Tana's been doing this forever.

And Tana knows like when something hits and Tana's had a lot of success in her career. But I would argue that the canceled podcast is the biggest thing she's done. Really? Yeah. Like bigger than her only fans on her agency? Well, yes, money, but also in terms of fame and followers and fans. Like she's selling out huge theaters and she's been doing this for a while. And when something works, like you don't just give it up.

So I think they're going to, I think what they think they're handling it in the best way that they can, but they can't see outside of it. They're like, okay, we got some good comments. We're okay. You know? Yeah. Because, and when they first put out the episode, I was reading the comments on YouTube and I'm like, oh, I wonder what people people are saying and when they're just talking to

their fans like they were like listen Brooke like they're giving grace their fans but then it hits the internet and they're like major YouTubers so you get like wide reaching and then the comments shift of course no I don't know to me like these these situations are so fascinating because you always want to see like what works and what doesn't and I just don't think attempting to make a million different videos for every different person who's offended is gonna work you know you have to be genuine and you have to like oh you just have to say she's probably genuine but it like the people who are gonna forgive you forgive you and the people who aren't like there's nothing you can say yeah no and they're um when first of all she's nothing you can say. Yeah. No. And there, um, when,

first of all, she's very young. And when you were experiencing for the first time, this is Tana at this point, Tana's used to, you know, cut, but when you're new to it and it happens to you for the first time, like you will do anything. You will say anything. You are so scared. You are so embarrassed and you don't give a fuck you just want to fix it and you just want it you think like okay I'll make this video and it'll be better but people just sort of who participate in things like this are unrelenting in their in their mad and their hatred of you so you just there's really nothing you can say to those people but you keep making those videos for them and it's futile and it just it's not

gonna end how you think yeah so it's a terrible spot to be and i do not envy these girls in any way like seriously and i mean this good luck good luck it's interesting it adds another dynamic too because if anything like that ever happened to us like we're stuck together right like we're bound by blood yeah these two girls are not that there's even a choice of like will brook will they or won't they i actually think them having a tour is a good thing because i think brooke has to come people bought tickets to see brooke too like it's false advertising if brooke isn't there yeah no and i think brooke is just as popular as tana it's not like i think sometimes like there's like everybody likes one person i feel like you know everybody like loves you and hates me like no i'm kidding no i'm

kidding i'm kidding but like i think that does happen with podcasters where it's like one star and like no i think 50 of the audience or roughly half like relates to one person. If you have two like different personalities, that's how it should be. No, I think like up until recently, like it was like the Brooke show with Clinton Kane and kind of Tana took a backseat. In the last few weeks, it's been the Brooke show, Clinton Kane. And I think a lot of the success is from like Brooke sort of like bleeding out and the things that she shares.

So it's interesting to watch people who have a choice to either stay together. Like we don't have that choice. So I know if it ever happened. And it's unbelievably ironic that this is all happening under the umbrella of the canceled podcast. No. And, and I thought people who, who wore that badge, like an honor would handle this so differently. That's been the most surprising part i completely agree yeah so yeah that's that that's what's going on on the internet yeah that's what's going on on the internet what day their podcast drops on on wednesdays tuesdays today's tuesday no this new thing just came out like i hope like i feel like you want to like sunday let me see when do their episodes count

i will be watching like what they do next because like cancel culture is one of my like hobbies in terms of, I don't participate, but I find it really interesting to like see how things get handled. Okay, so their most recent one without- August 1st. Two days ago, Monday.

Wait, I'm seeing August 1st as the last one. And it's today's August 13th. Where are you looking? On their podcast. Oh, okay. Oh, they didn't put on podcasts responding to brooks tweets that was two days ago and that was a video that wasn't a podcast episode that's weird and then their last podcast episode is august first 12 days ago leo from love island right when they when they do a weekly podcast so it should have been august 9th oh so they delayed i guess interesting no i'm telling you and it's easy to like speak from

you know like they're doing it wrong you really don't know what the fuck to do in situations like that like it's it feels like seriously the only thing going on in the world and it's like the weight of the world you're like what the fuck like it's horrible like i would actually i would wish it on my worst enemy that's's how bad it is. Yeah. So that's our show. That's what's going on in the interwebs and in the world of the Kennedys and the Mojos. Kennedys and Mojos. I like that for a title.

Okay. Like. Not random, but deeply interesting. That's also good. But the Kennedys and the Mojos, that's literally what we spoke about today. Or honestly, the Kardashians and the Mojos. And the Kennedys. The Kennedys, the Kardashians, and the Mojos. We'll work on it.

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