The Toast - The Last 10 Pounds with Jared Freid: Tuesday, June 10th, 2025
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We are back on The Toast in studio.
I'm joined by my co-host today, Jared Free.
Jared, welcome back to The Toast.
It is great to be here.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's always a pleasure to see you,
to be amongst the toasters who I see on the road
every now and again I hear from a toaster.
Oh, I love that.
Yes.
They're like, I heard you way back when and go back on the toast.
I get asked, go back on.
I'm like, I'm here.
The Delray Daddy is here.
So Jared is here today.
You have not been on the toast in years.
I can't remember.
I remember the last time we co-hosted together.
I probably like five years ago.
Yeah.
But you are a comedian, podcaster, creator,
all of the things that qualify you
to sit in this chair today.
Right, well, I took the test outside and then I passed.
I was able to go, hey guys, a lot of you have been asking.
So, yeah, I said it well, so.
No, it is a pleasure to be back.
I moved down to the Florida area, and I'm like.
You've been living here like two weeks.
Like two weeks, and I'm trying to see if it can work.
I'm in Delray, which I am like,
I'm singing the praises of Delray.
It's weird, because I was in New York 18 years.
You sound so New York,
and like everything about you is so New York.
I'm Northeast, like I'm from outside of Boston,
but like I'm like the most Northeast person. Like I realize it when I go on the road. You probably realize it when you go so New York. I'm Northeast, like I'm from outside of Boston, but I'm like the most Northeast person.
I realize it when I go on the road.
You probably realize it when you go on the road.
Yeah, I realize it doing this show,
like so many things that we say,
people will be like, what did she say?
Even yesterday I called a cream saver a sucking candy,
and they're like, a sucking candy?
I'm like, what else do you call it?
I mean, that's like literally every grandma
from the Northeast.
Have a sucka, you want a sucka?
Right, you take a sucka.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it is, it's like, again,
that's the pleasure of seeing the country is like,
oh my God, there's a whole thing here that I had no idea.
I went to San Jose, I put up a video on TikTok.
I'm like, San Jose, I didn't know San Jose
was near San Francisco.
I've heard of San Jose my whole life.
Yeah. I just was like, California, like, Francisco. I've heard of San Jose my whole life. Yeah.
I just was like California, like why would I know
in the same way, why would someone know
where Worcester is in New England?
Like these are like, and then everyone's like,
you don't know where San Jose is?
I'm like no, I'm not from here.
I don't know your weird Silicon Valley thing.
But it's cool to see and now being here,
I'm like the New York, I'm like, the New York,
I'm like drenched in the New York.
Like I went to a gym.
But it looks like you're trying to cover up
with your t-shirt.
No, I'm a Florida man.
And your Dolphins hat.
Like you jump ship so quickly.
Yeah, screw this, I'm a homer.
I'm just like, screw that team, I'm on this team now.
No, I went to the gym, they don't even have lockers.
Like I'm like, where do I put my stuff? And they're like, there's a cubby. I'm like a cubby, I have to the gym. They don't even have lockers. I'm like, well, where do I put my stuff?
And they're like, there's a cubby.
I'm like, a cubby?
I have to touch other people's things?
Get away, everything's gonna be stolen.
They're like, I know I'm the weirdo.
I think that's something New Yorkers,
because we're so loud and annoying,
sometimes that brashness comes off
as like that we think it's better.
No, it's just different.
You live like a weirdo in New York.
Yeah, but I think that New Yorkers,
they do think that it's better,
but that's how they cope, you know?
Well, everyone's coping.
Right.
Everyone is coping.
You know, how many people, the thing I'll never do is say-
People down here are like, we have so much,
like they tell themselves other things.
Everyone's insecure.
Everyone is insecure. Just remember that. Every, start they tell themselves other things. Everyone's insecure. Everyone is insecure.
Just remember that.
Every, start at, if you start at everyone's insecure,
the world makes like a lot more sense.
Like I have people, I'll be like, yeah,
I moved to Delray and they'll be like,
isn't it horrible in New York?
I'm like, no, I lived in the West Village there.
It was pretty great.
I used to go get wasted every night and, you know,
stumble home, you know, like it didn't feel
unsafe to me, but they have to make sure they're,
you know, everyone has to like,
make sure their move was correct, you know?
And it's like-
Everyone's looking for validation,
cause these are big life choices,
and it's like nice to hear you made the right one.
Absolutely.
And you fear making the wrong one.
Absolutely, this is like a very millennial thing too.
Like we're the first generation to be living online
and like we wanna make sure the thing we put out
10 years ago wasn't a huge mistake
and something everyone else was talking about.
You see it a lot in Austin,
cause Austin was like that first like,
hey move here, you'll have a new life.
And all the Austin people are like,
isn't it great, tell me it's great.
And you're like, chill, it's okay. It's kinda hot.
Do you think about moving to Austin?
Because that's another place.
No.
But they're a comedy scene.
To me, it was a lifestyle choice.
My parents are in Boca, the southeast Florida area.
My parents are here.
I like hanging out with my parents,
even though they drive me insane.
I kinda like,
my soul is injected when I run around them
like they're like there's yeah it's in the most horrific way like it's like them being
like offering me their Ozempic you know while I'm sitting at dinner like it's like no come
on I don't even what an insulting question. You don't look like you have. No I listen
I think about it every day. But I don't know if I could be offered ozempic,
like as a person who would be able to take it
and say no, yeah.
Well there's a big difference between taking it
and being offered it.
Oh, I would take it in two seconds.
Yeah, but taking it's different.
Do you know what I mean? What do you mean?
Like if I was like, hey, do you want some gum?
What's the first thing you would say?
Does my breath stink?
Oh.
Oh.
They're calling you fat. Right. Oh, okay. They're saying, here my breath stink? Oh. They're calling you fat.
Right.
They're saying, here's my fat fuck medicine.
You need it.
I mean, my mom and dad, they don't stop talking about it.
They're both on it.
And listen, I think about it.
I wonder.
But no, even last night.
But when I said you don't look like you take ozempic,
I didn't mean that you're fat.
No, I know.
You're jacked.
I'm a big, no, listen.
You don't get jackeded on Ozempic.
I have been trying to lose 10 pounds my whole life.
That's what Ozempic is for.
I know, I know, that's the problem.
It's like the X-Men.
You were a fan of the, never saw the,
I didn't take you for an X-Men.
But you can explain the reference.
The X-Men reference is they're like born with X-Men traits.
Whatever their genetic mutation is, they have a power.
But then in every few episodes of X-Men,
there's like, we can cure it.
And it's like, well, take away what's me.
Oh, it's true.
It's like, if you lose those last 10 pounds,
like, will you still be funny?
Like, will you still have those insecurities
or will you just be like a man living on the beach,
like with your shirt off, not thinking about nothing?
Right.
I understand.
Would I lose what makes me me? I understand that. And I do think if you'd never had those 10 pounds, like with your shirt off, not thinking about nothing. Right. I understand. When I lose what makes me me.
I understand that.
And I do think if you'd never had those 10 pounds,
you wouldn't be you.
Right.
And I feel that way about me thinking about my life.
Those 10 pounds have made me who I am.
Absolutely.
But now I'm settled in who I am.
And I'm ready to part with them.
I'm ready to go away from who I am.
Yeah, I've been me for a long time.
I'm done with it.
You're right.
There is a, like I do wanna try, then like,
like all I talk about is what I eat,
what I'm gonna eat, how much I ate.
That's what people who go on Ozempic say,
like the food noise they call it.
Like so that's what you're thinking about,
that's what you're talking about.
Like what would you do if you didn't have to think about that?
Like you could cure cancer, think about the potential.
Doesn't mean you wouldn't think about anything.
Just imagine what you could accomplish. Jackie, you're speaking my language and then. Like you could cure cancer. Think about the potential. Doesn't mean you wouldn't think about anything. Just imagine what you could accomplish.
Jackie, you're speaking my language.
And then when I didn't cure cancer,
I would feel bad that I've done nothing with my time.
Right.
And now look at what I've done.
At least now you have this excuse.
Right, the excuse is that last night
I needed to have pirate's booty until 3 a.m.
Yeah.
So this is why I love this show.
This is why I love coming on here.
I feel like I relate to you, the audience,
in a way that's pretty spiritual.
I do feel that whenever I'm around a toaster.
But I, no, I mean, my parents, I was with them yesterday,
they're going, yeah, you gotta watch out
when you go out in Florida, anyone who moves here,
midlife, they're a loser.
Something went wrong in their life.
I'm like, you're talking to a guy who moved down here.
Right, I'm like, I don't need midlife.
Right, I'm, yeah, 40.
But.
You know, this is my midlife crisis,
moving here from New York, I think.
And also, you're only here on trial, you said.
You're staying here a few months.
Right.
But so far.
So far I love it.
It feels like I'm on vacation.
I'm like, when does the vacation end and reality end?
I mean, I'm happy most places,
I think I'm pretty easy even though I complain
about everything.
No, but that's like, that makes you happy.
Yeah, it makes me happy to complain.
Like that's like a scratching a bug bite, you know?
Like I love scratching a bug bite.
But like whenever I go on the road,
I can see why someone would live in that area.
And I think for me, right. Do you look up Zillow every time you go on the road, I can see why someone would live in that area. And I think for me, right.
Do you look up Zillow every time you go on the road?
Like every city you're in?
Every city I'm in.
But also here, like I'm Zillow
in the Southeast Florida area.
I mean, those emails,
that's like the best email I get all day.
Like I'm looking at everything.
I mean, I just, I like it.
And the other thing is big city to a small town.
Like, Delray has 64,000 people.
I went to Penn State, that's State College, Pennsylvania.
Like, that's the same size.
So like, I've never had that.
So kinda, so like, as far as like dating,
I'm a single, I do a podcast about dating, you know,
it's kinda nice to like live the life
that we've had written into us about.
It's kind of like relate to people who are in a small town
and dealing with dating struggles.
Like even right away I was like.
It's like a Hallmark movie.
It's truly a Hallmark movie.
I'm the lawyer woman moving home to her small town.
Yeah.
You are the lawyer woman.
I am, I'm the hot shot lawyer who moved back to Delray.
Hopefully some young contractor can sweep me off my feet.
It is weird, I mean, even like I said,
I've been thinking a lot about this.
I try to think about my life,
and there takes a certain amount of vulnerability
to put yourself out there.
I've talked about being single, being in a relationship,
and then this small town thing we get written in about.
And I'm like, I actually think what I'm going through
right now and feeling so good about it,
I think anyone living in a big city,
if you did a three month stint somewhere else,
it kind of feels like when I got here,
like I just downloaded the app, the dating app,
for the first time in years. That first moment where you're getting a lot of matches,
you're seeing all the new people, there's an excitement,
there's a jolt of energy, and I'm sure that like
the dating apps that goes away, you've seen them all.
You know, and that's probably small town stuff too,
that's pros and cons, that's life, you know?
So you're dating down here?
I've gone on dates, yeah.
I'm dating everywhere. Are you looking for something serious, like in earnest, or you're like, if it I've gone on dates, yeah. Yeah, I'm dating everywhere.
Are you looking for something serious, like in earnest?
Or you're like, if it finds me, it finds me.
I think most men, the problem with dating apps
is you can put looking for long but open to short,
and I think that's every man's setting.
Yeah.
Is, lots have been made about the female version
of the Disney princess, the prince charming sweep me off my feet.
I think there's a male version of that
where it's like look at any coming of age movie.
It's always like the cool girl who gets it.
Oh my God, no one else knows she's awesome but me.
That's a male thing.
So I'm always, I feel ridiculous
because I do want a long term relationship,
I do want to get married, have kids, all those things,
you know, like live the toaster lifestyle.
But I do, but I'm not, also my life is good, you know?
And I think that's the problem.
I make a joke that sounds awful all the time.
I'm like the only thing that could ruin my life is a woman.
But that's the same for anyone listening,
male, female, gender, gender aside.
If you're like 35, you're making money,
you're living well, you got your phone,
you got your sweatpants, you got your good spot
on the couch, the only thing that can really like
ruin that whole thing is someone,
you falling in love and it being the wrong person for you.
Right.
And I have that fear,
that's like my fear of commitment
has like evolved over the years.
Into like it being someone who's just gonna like
kind of take from your things, spotting things.
That's a way to put it that sounds-
Cause stress, relationships can be stressful.
Right, like I like my life, I like my family,
I like, I wanna bring, you know, again, it's like the cubby hole.
I just want someone to like, and that's not how it works.
I understand, like I sound ridiculous.
It could work that way in a not good situation,
but they can also add so much value, you know?
That's the point, is it goes both ways.
It could be the most wonderful thing.
I know I would be, I do believe, we've had psychics,
and we've had psychics and,
we've had, what are they called? Mediums.
Mediums come on the show and do a session with me.
Kelly Knight, she's great, she came on the show
and did a session with me.
And she was like, I think you're at your best form
when you, if you found someone.
And she's, I do believe that.
Yeah.
Like I think, but until then, you know, you kind of,
there's a lot of guilt associated.
Like you meet so many nice people and I don't know.
I'm just like, I don't know how to get to the next thing.
And that's the problem.
I think for a lot of people, I don't think I'm alone.
I understand.
What's the longest relationship you've had?
Two and a half years.
You know, I've lived with someone.
I've had girlfriends
and then since then it's been like three monther,
maybe six monther and again the other thing is like
there's this, what we're doing.
You know, bringing someone into this world is tough.
And I have gone through that bringing someone
into this world and then out of this world.
Yeah, probably wouldn't do it again the same way. No, it's painful. have gone through that, bringing someone into this world and then out of this world. Yeah. That really was-
Probably wouldn't do it again the same way.
No, it's painful.
Yeah.
And I feel a lot of guilt.
Not in the way anyone would.
Nothing went wrong, nothing extreme, but it was like-
Yeah, it's just a weird situation.
And it's funny, because people would be like,
don't keep your private life private.
You're like, but no, this is so fun.
And it's good for my content,
it's good for our relationship and we're working together
and like it's fun to bring someone in.
But there is that like downside that's like,
oh, now I know why people warn you about this.
Of course, my mom, I mean, I talk about my mom,
my mom will call me and go,
everyone's talking about the video you put up
about the trash, what did you put up about the trash?
And I put up this video, she goes through the trash.
You can't throw anything away.
Like at the house.
You went through her trash.
No, I threw away something and she said,
don't throw away garbage in the garbage.
How insane is that?
She doesn't throw stuff away.
She goes through every piece of garbage.
My whole life, that's why I'm a hoarder.
She would go through it with her hands.
Why'd you throw away this tissue?
And I'd have to explain the tissue.
Can you imagine?
I blew my nose and, are you sick?
Like it would lead.
You're dealing with this detective
that's always on the case for nothing.
I don't know why I'm being accused.
That's my whole life.
My mom and my mom, but now like my mom's a version.
My mom's never gonna be out of my material until her death
and then I'll have to hear, oh my God,
what are you gonna do for your comedy?
I'll have someone say that to me.
I'll be like, I'll find something.
Can I mourn my mom fucking dead?
She's not dead, she's fine.
She's more alive than anyone.
We're happy to hear it.
Yeah, no, my parents are wild animals.
And like.
And they're still married, so it's like,
you have a really good example.
Yeah, well that's also the scary part too.
Yeah.
Look how hard it is for them
and they're happily married.
This is happy.
Stop.
Screaming at each other.
A lot of people who have parents who are still together,
it could really go either way in any situation.
But I feel like the bar is also set really high
regardless of their,
mischigas. Mishigas.
Mishigas is the best word.
Yesterday, my mom goes, you're eatin',
look it, he's like a pig,
and then has barbecue sauce on her face.
And I'm like, the pot callin' the kettle black.
They're like made for each other, you know?
It's just, yeah, they're total characters.
I mean, I just taped a special,
and it's all about going to the beach with my parents.
Oh, sweet.
The whole hour is one story
about going to the beach with my parents.
When does it come out?
I hope, we'll see.
I hope we sell it to wherever we sell it.
Your previous special is on Netflix?
It's on Netflix right now.
A, Flex. Yes, thanks, Big Flex.
What's it called if people want to see it?
37 and Single.
I mean, to get on these topics,
37 and single, it's on Netflix,
and the first half is about dating,
the second half is about body issues in my family.
Oh, classic stuff here at the Toast.
I mean, you might like it, Toasters.
So yeah, but the next one, I started telling the story
about going to the beach in Delray with my parents,
and it was a two minute story,
and it just kept growing.
People were like, what?
I was like, I guess I should talk about my dad,
I guess I should talk about my mom,
and it turned into this hour thing that,
it was such a pleasure to go on the road and have,
first of all, I talk about being Jewish,
kinda in the way that I talk about being Jewish,
just like, not really.
I'm a high holiday Jew
who went to summer camp.
So like that's about as Jew as I get.
Where'd you go to camp?
Cedar, you went to Viga.
I know.
So same camp circles.
So like it's funny,
cause Seinfeld never mentions he's Jewish,
but it's a Jewish show.
Right.
So it was cool to go on the road
and do this show that was like a Jewish story, but then have every background come up to me and go,
that's my mom, that's my dad, oh my God, the boomers.
And then Jews come up and go, the Jews, like hilarious,
they would always go up to me and go, does anyone get it?
After like a whole crowd was killing.
We're laughing, we're laughing.
Do people who aren't Jewish get it?
And it's like, they were all around you.
So it's like, but it's,
so that was like the greatest pleasure in the world.
But like to talk about them as like, I never want,
I thought talking about your parents was stupid.
Like I was like, who would care about them?
And then they would just do these crazy things.
And-
Do you ever like have them on your podcast?
No, they wouldn't be good.
It wouldn't translate.
Like you have to sort of decode them
and make them entertainment for the world. Absolutely. Like if I put them in my, my mom't be good. It wouldn't translate. Like you have to sort of decode them and make them entertainment for the world.
Absolutely, like if I put them in my mouth,
my mom would be like, hi.
And I'd be like, no, this isn't it.
This isn't what you do.
I understand.
You know what I'm talking about?
Like I'm sure your parents the same way.
Like you go, you know, all of them, they're all,
and it's also that generation, like they're so confident.
The boomers are so cocky and they just waltz through life.
And like millennials were so not cocky.
We're like the most self-conscious generation.
Yeah.
And you know, then we have-
Which isn't like so much better.
No, it goes both ways.
Like it's not.
I wish I was a little bit more delusional.
Yeah.
I wish I didn't think about every little thing.
But maybe it comes with age.
Do you find getting older,
like you are sort of letting go
of some of those things or not?
I'm eating like I've let go, but I...
You're acting like you don't care.
Yeah, I just cry about it more privately.
Right, right, right.
No, it is, getting older is fine.
I think that's the struggle with dating too.
Like, you know, when, you know, with dating stuff
and I know we're doing some advice stuff,
I'm sure there's a dating question.
We're doing Dear Toasters, you guys.
DTQ, everyone, you'll be okay.
Dear Toasters with Jared
and we're gonna do some like fun dating ones.
If we do some dating ones, I think the-
I think, I'll look at bonsai shows.
Whatever the questions are, like, you know,
I never, you know, I think a lot of men
don't do the math, including this thing of like,
well I have to get, the time has come for me.
I think guys don't really think in terms of timing a lot.
Yeah, and you don't have to, and that's nice for you.
Right, there's pros and cons.
There's this whole thing going on
with men not having friends.
It's kind of in the news and the zeitgeist.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like, yeah, because I don't think,
like when I moved here, people were like,
do you have any friends there?
I'm like, friends.
Ha ha ha ha.
In what world do I have?
I have the people I've met.
The people in your life.
Right, and I'm like, we'll see each other when we see each other.
Like, I didn't decide to move to Delray based on like,
will I have anyone to have lunch with? But who will I brunch with? And I'm like, we'll see each other when we see each other. I didn't decide to move to Delray based on like,
will I have anyone to have lunch with?
But who will I brunch with?
But I do understand it's different for women.
There's a difference there.
There is a difference there.
That is really funny and it's definitely a question
that you get, like are you guys making friends?
And you do want friends in your life,
but I guess I can see why.
I don't want any friends.
I can see why for you it's like friends.
Right, it is weird because then I had to think.
I'm not just someone who just lashes out
without thinking internally.
I do try to get some depth to me.
When I was asked, do I have friends,
I was like, do I have friends?
Like just generally?
And then I'm like, I talk to one friend every other day.
That's good, that's a lot of talking to a friend.
Yeah, we talk on the phone all the time.
That's good, that's a best friend.
You have a best friend.
Yeah, I wouldn't, you know, let's not.
We make it girly, but like.
Yeah, no, let's not.
You got a buddy.
Let's not ruin my street cred here in Delray.
But I.
That's a VFF.
Oh, you have a Delray best friend?
No. No, like from back in the day. I has a BFF? Oh, you have a Delray best friend? No.
No, like from back in the day.
I had a, from college that we talk all the time,
but then there's like my other college friends,
my high school friends I talked to,
but like the idea that I would make a move based on.
Like who you're gonna meet.
Right, like I didn't go to like the Snapchat map
and make sure that I had people around.
Or like Bumble BFF.
Right, oh my God.
That's something that really makes men angry.
What?
If you mention we could be friends
to a guy you met on a dating app,
I'm telling you from, I'm the guy talking to you, okay?
You know, I'm not, I'm, I am one of the few straight men
out there talking about this stuff
because all the other straight men
don't know how to talk about it and they're afraid.
So I, when I get said, oh, we could be friends.
From a girl on a dating app.
It hits you in the ego.
Like I, it's something I'm not proud of.
Would you rather be ghosted?
Absolutely.
I don't wanna be your friend.
We met on a dating app, not anything else.
Bumble BFF, that's why there's probably no men on there.
Right, do they even have a women's section, a men's section?
I would imagine not. I've only heard about it.
I've only heard about it too.
And it's like a nice idea to make friends.
They might not even have it anymore.
Right, right.
But I'm just saying, even the mention of
maybe we could be friends, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It hits me in my ego.
Yeah.
And if it's hitting me and I'm talking out loud about it,
there's some guy just raging at you know, raging at like,
hey, maybe we could be friends,
just ghost or we are not a romantic connection.
That's okay to say.
Hit him, you gotta, guys are like vampires.
Put the steak through the heart, chop off the head.
Yeah, I like a ghost, honestly.
Like unless you're like seriously boyfriend girlfriend,
like a couple days, he's not feeling it.
Like you don't, it just peter out.
It's so hard these days because like,
I even like put this thing on TikTok about,
you know, you talk to people.
The problem with dating apps is that there's just more.
You know, you have more conversations.
Like if there was no,
to me it's the difference between sugar and sweet and low.
When you put sugar in your coffee, you're like,
is there anything in this?
Then you put sweet and low, you're like,
it's just Russia's sweet.
That's what a dating app is.
You're talking to way more people
than you would ever talk to on a weekly basis.
So there's more failure, there's more excitement,
there's more and more and more and extra.
So you get in these situations where you have
a lot of medium conversations on dating apps
and that almost enrages people more.
Because they're like, I know they're nice,
they've done nothing wrong, but I don't wanna go out with them.
It just goes nowhere, and so do you like dating apps?
What's your?
I've just deleted them.
I'm taking a break.
I think everything's good, everything's bad.
Yeah.
You know, like I don't live in a world
where I don't believe in, you know,
shoulda, coulda, woulda, shoulda, it just is.
You know, like dating apps are a tool,
that's a hammer, is a hammer bad?
You know what I mean?
Like, everyone has met in every way too.
So like, when someone brings up the grocery store,
they're annoying, but they're always gonna be right,
cause someone met in the grocery store.
When someone brings up the dating app, they're annoying,
but someone has met on the dating app.
And when someone meets at the restaurant or the wedding,
that's the problem with dating.
It's like quicksand.
There's no way to be right.
And if you're trying to be right,
you're never gonna meet anybody.
Yeah, a setup is good.
You get set up.
I think setup is number one, I'm with you.
Setup is number one because, but a thoughtful setup.
Yes.
Don't just set up any people.
No.
All I ask from a setup is a reason you thought of me
and the reason could be they're fun.
Yeah, well you're now on my setup list.
Whoa.
I'm in.
The male side is very short.
It's tough.
It's tough.
I always say to women, they should hang out
with married couples and hang out with the husband.
Cause the husband isn't thinking,
all you have to do for the husband,
in my personal opinion, and I've heard, I know men,
I'm a man, but I've heard men speak.
Men don't go, oh, you know who's single?
They never do that.
They'll go, you know who's awesome?
That's what they'd say.
That's the way they speak about their wives, friends.
So if you're like shitty to the wives,
to the husband of your friend,
they're not gonna think of you.
You wanna be like, you know what?
Is this advice for women?
I think this is advice for women and men.
I think anyone who's single,
the spouse of your friend is your best asset.
And you want them to, it's like Coke and Pepsi.
Why would Coke and Pepsi ever advertise?
We all know Coke and Pepsi.
They advertise because they want that
to be the first thing out of your mouth.
Hey, do you want a soda?
I'll have a Coke.
You want a soda?
I'll have a Pepsi.
So same with dating.
You have to be the first thing
that comes out of the spouse's mouth.
When they, for the if and when.
You're not counting on this person,
you don't wanna be their burden,
everyone's got their own lives to deal with.
But you go out for dinner with your friend,
if I go out to dinner with you, bring the husband.
You know who's awesome?
Jared was awesome, he was fun time.
Yeah.
I wanna be first out of the mouth.
And I think that's like for anyone
who's out there and single,
looking for like actionable things,
because it's all, you know, look at TikTok dating content.
It's all like, you know, it's all, you know,
woo woo manifest bullshit.
No one has any answers.
I think my answer, the spouse, always the spouse,
also have a friend luck, you know, like a potluck.
Yeah, and everyone brings a friend.
Doesn't have to be married, doesn't have to be single.
That's really cute.
Doesn't have to be single.
That's a big part of it.
Cause they think, well, I have no single friend.
No, no, no, friend luck.
One friend, that's your admission into the door.
It doesn't, because everyone knows 200 people.
Yeah.
This is how people sell life insurance.
I'm just giving you a life insurance thing.
I used to cold call.
This is what they would tell you. Okay. So I think this is a good way to find, you know, love.
I love that. Let us know if it works out for any of you. And you'll be invited to my next
friend look for sure. I'm in. I'm in. I want to go to the Jackie O friend look. This is such a
pleasure. Thank you again for having me. Of course. Well, we're going to do the Fast Five
Stories. I'm going to get your take on the biggest pop culture stories. And then we're going to get
into your Dear Toasters,
and I'll do a little Love Island recap.
Are you watching Love Island?
So I have started.
Okay.
I'm on episode four. It's so much.
So I'm new to the world.
It's so much.
I think that hurts them.
I agree. I'm watching so much and so quickly, like for my job, not for fun.
Right. It's not.
But how many people are watching to do a podcast?
Like 20.
That's the thing.
Right.
But that's the thing, I'm like, who's keeping up with this?
And then people are like, oh, I like to rot and watch
Love Island.
It's like, are you actually rotting?
Like, how much time are you on the couch?
It made me think of that word rot differently.
I'm like, I thought it was like a joke.
No, it's like the first episode was an hour and 40 minutes.
You're physically rotting
and your brain is literally rotting.
This show is so dumb.
And I think every season of the show is so unpredictable
because they don't know, they cast these people,
they record the pilot and then they put it up.
And every episode is like the night or two days before.
And they don't know if the show is good
until it's done.
I know, that's the hard part with watching.
And seeing it as a viewer.
And so like, I'm watching the season
because last season was like the biggest thing
in pop culture last summer.
And I didn't watch last summer
because I had watched so many,
I watched the prior Love Island US seasons
and I'm like, this is like seriously bad
and a waste of my time.
Of course the one season I don't watch is a good one.
So now I'm like, okay, I'm back.
Right.
That's, I mean, it's sad that that's why I'm there.
I'm like, I heard it was so great last season.
I would love to like be in the know of what's going on.
I do think they were helped last season
because it was one of the NFL players brother was on it.
Yeah.
He played for the Giants. Yeah, the one, Odell Beckham. The Odell Beckham, his brother was on it. Yeah. He played for the Giants.
Yeah, the one, Odell Beckham.
Odell Beckham, his brother was on it.
Listen, who am I to come into a show
that's been established and be like,
here's how you should change it?
But I'm like, it does need,
maybe it needs a celebrity factor.
It does need a celebrity hook,
and I do think a famous younger brother is a great way
because that's also from Love Island UK,
which is so much more successful than US. The one season I watched, which is like the big,
the best season, season five, Molly May and Tommy Fury,
who's the younger brother of Tyson Fury.
And so that was like a big get for the show
that Tommy was on and he turned out to be like
such an amazing guy, except for last year.
And then he fell in love with Molly
and they've been together since and they have a baby
and like, it's just been amazing.
And so now we're two for two
on famous younger brothers carrying a season.
Right, and I, cause I'm watching this and it's just,
to me it's like young kids dating.
It feels very saved by the bell.
Like, it's just like, I don't really relate
to them very well.
And I'm a big dating show fan.
Like I'm not a reality show hater.
Like I love The Bachelor.
I yelled The Bachelor on my Instagram.
Like I've kept up with it.
Like the thing about The Bachelor that I really like
is the arc of it.
Like, and that's what this lacks
is there's a beginning, middle and end.
Like this has, seems like we're just treading water.
We're just like sitting around
until they throw another wrench into the
villa. Have you ever like gone out with someone from The
Bachelor? No, I feel like in your career, I've met a lot of
them, but I've never been on a date with one of I once tried I
shot my shot once with whom I won't say names, but season. Oh,
it was when I can't remember what she was on. But I was like, I basically put it out there. I was like, Hey, but. Oh, who's season? Oh, it was when, I can't remember what she was on,
but I was like, I basically put it out there.
I was like, hey, just, I know you're going through
like a whole season thing.
Who says?
No, she ignored the message.
And I was just like, all right, we shot, we shot.
That's the thing about, and listen,
I speak from experience when you shoot your shot,
it's called shooting your one, S-H-O-T, not shots.
Do you know Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor?
I know, yeah.
Is that the one?
Yeah.
Well, cause she's Jewish and she's amazing and gorgeous.
Cause I made fun of her.
I'm obsessed with her.
Well, I made fun of her the whole season
for the Jewish thing.
Cause I kept talking about how my parents would act.
Like my whole, the whole bit was like,
I knew she was Jewish and like,
kind of like made fun of that. So then I was like, hey listen,
no things are kinda wild right now or whatever,
but if you ever wanna get a drink
and then just not even acknowledged.
Not even the read receipt, which I know how that works.
You can turn those off on Instagram.
Or you just like don't open it.
You see the person that's doing it,
you don't wanna do. Right, you just delete right away.
Just like, she saw the subtle like, hey.
And was like, no, no, no, no, I won't even read this.
Just let me delete right away.
I'm cracking up, I just want to say of all, like you.
Can't believe you guessed it right away.
Because like she's the one to go for it.
Listen, I was like, she had laughed at a bunch of my jokes.
So I was like, okay.
At first when you were talking about it,
I figured it was someone from back in the day,
like Nick Viall season,
because I feel like, I don't know,
that's just who I associate with The Bachelor,
and the newer girls are younger,
and so, but then I was like,
who would I set you up with from The Bachelor, Ariel?
Well, I mean, a lot of the fans,
because I kept making fun of her on the show,
and a lot of the people were like, Jew, you know,
you're a Jew, go make a Jew.
Well, she did go out with the other Jew.
Who was, oh yeah.
I don't know who that is.
I don't watch the show anymore, but I do.
He's a nice guy.
Yeah, and they went out like once, just for the Jews,
and then for the Jewish people.
And now she's like, it's just a queenie,
and she was like dating some celebrity.
Okay, yeah.
But anyways, I love that, let's just say. Didn't work, I guess it's just a queen me and she was like dating some celebrity. Okay. Yeah, but anyways, I love that
Let's just say didn't work. I guess old Jared
Wasn't celeb enough
Oh
Ten pounds to lose
The thing is if you didn't have those ten pounds like you'd have to like just sit with yourself right be like well
What was it nothing to do now? I think to blame it on
So it's good right right this is I'd be responsible for cancer still being around
And I have to really deal with why Ariel didn't want to personality
The thing I make a living on
I'm seriously cracking up. Okay. Well, we'll talk a little bit more about Love Island later in the show
because we have a Love Island story.
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I love, I see that you have page six out.
I love a page six headline.
Page six is my first stop.
It's the only stop to me.
I just, I love, to me, the page six fun
is trying to figure out who planted the story too.
Because these are all PR agents
that are kind of like making,
sending it over to the page six people.
So I just love, where's this coming from?
I kind of like, that's something that always crosses my mind.
Yeah, and that's a good question to ask in general.
I was a history major, so that's something
that you always have to consider the source.
Right.
You know?
Exactly. Who stands to gain? Right, right. I mean, there's so that's something that you always have to consider the source. Right. You know? Exactly.
Who stands to gain?
Right, right.
I mean, there's so many stories like that.
You're like, wow, this is really glowing for this person.
You're like, they must be awesome.
You're like, oh, that's their story.
Right.
Well, our first story's a little update
because Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift
went to a wedding this weekend of his cousins,
I'm sure that you saw, was like very normie behavior.
Okay.
And.
I didn't see, but I, good for the,
what a way to, do you think that would make you happy?
You're the normie cousin?
I was talking about this
because I did the show with Margot yesterday
and she was like, don't you think like
it's a little weird for the bride to have Taylor there?
She like takes off all the attention.
Taylor's the bride everywhere she goes.
Right, but I do feel like you could seriously be like
that insecure to be like, I don't want her there because she's gonna take the spotlight off of me or Right, but I do feel like you could seriously be like
that insecure to be like, I don't want her there
because she's gonna take the spotlight off of me.
Or you can recognize that it's like the coolest thing ever
that Taylor Swift was at your wedding.
Like I think there are really two types of girls.
And I think more people would like want the clout of like,
Taylor Swift was at my wedding, that's iconic.
It's officially the best wedding in our friend group.
Right.
Even if it stunk.
It hears, you're right.
Because what we have to acknowledge is that Taylor Swift
is a once in a generation star.
She's Michael Jackson.
She had the largest tour ever, money-wise.
Did you go to this Aeros tour?
I didn't go to the Aeros tour.
I respect it, but I didn't go.
Yeah, you have to say that.
Yeah, I mean, I'm like, but I'm just saying,
she's categorically one of the biggest celebrities
on the planet ever.
Yeah.
So that, I think. Like Elvis.
What's that? Like Elvis.
Elvis, Taylor Swift, Michael Jackson.
So it's funny, there's a level of celebrity you have to be
that every bride would be okay with being,
like she couldn't be, like to me,
if it was like, I'm not to besmirch, but like.
Besmirch away.
But if it was like, I'm trying to think of,
who's a singer that I'd be like,
if it was like Gwen Stefani.
Yeah, it's like just a big to do,
and is it worth the drama?
Gwen Stefani might be, I think to be a,
because everyone's gotta get a picture with Taylor.
Taylor knows she's Santa Claus.
Everyone's gotta sit on her lap and get a picture.
So Taylor knows that she's basically going to work.
Like the bride has to know that everyone's gonna be
at the Taylor exhibit at least for a minute
during her wedding.
Yeah.
It has to make sense for everybody.
So I think the, it is just a very interesting plight
for that bride.
That I, I think if the grandma,
if everyone at the wedding knows who the person is,
then you can't be upset.
Yeah, I think it's more iconic than it is a detraction.
Yeah, but it's dependent on how big the celebrity is.
Like if Benson Boone came to your wedding,
your grandmother would be like,
who Benson, Benson Boone?
You know, like, Benjamin Boone?
But I do feel like if Benson Boone came to your wedding,
it would be a distraction.
He's flipping.
But he's like small enough of a person
that I would make him sing.
Like I would never ask Taylor to-
Perform.
Yeah, I would never ask Taylor to perform.
Like, what are you, crazy?
But like, I'm sorry, Benson, get to work.
Get up here.
Right, it's a good point.
Benson, but then Benson, what if he's like,
this is my Saturday.
I wanna enjoy the open bar.
But like when you're the bride,
like you are the star.
Like the way anyone would do anything
for the bride wants Benson to sing, come on up.
But that's the point where Benson goes, have fun.
Thank you for the invite.
I'll send a great gift.
Like I think Benson's too small for that reason.
Yeah.
Like we don't wanna, you know, if I'm the bride,
I don't want Benson Boone dimming my shine.
Okay.
I, and he's a very divisive person for some reason now.
Like, have you ever seen TikToks where people hate him?
No, I'm not on TikTok, so I'm just like,
I can understand why people like-
They think he's like mass produced.
They think he's like-
Like industry plan.
Basically, the artists out there, I think he's great.
I think he's great too.
I'm a huge fan.
The songs hit, like, okay, all these artists like complaining,
like you make a good song.
Right, it's a very Gen Z, like you get to look like
you're an artist and you know things
by making fun of Benson Boone.
And making fun of things that are popular,
but like sometimes things are popular are really bad,
like, and actually most things.
Benson Boone's songs that I've heard are really good.
Whenever I get hate on TikTok,
the thing you always have to remember
when someone's like, this sucks,
and I'm like, I have a hundred thousand views on something,
the thing that you could always say back to them is like,
well, someone loved this so much
that it's the only reason you're seeing it.
That's beautiful.
If you think about it.
That's really beautiful.
That's the sad part about algorithms is like,
you need, it's fossil fuel.
You know, you need someone,
you need the hatred of losers to take off.
Yeah.
Their gas for my car.
But that's why it's inherently negative.
Right.
That's why you have to go extreme.
Everything's the best, everything's the worst.
You can't be moderate.
And I'm a moderate.
I'm a guy who, everything is good and bad.
I just said that to you with dating.
Like it's-
Yeah, you're in the middle.
I'm a big middle loser.
That's why Arielle won't get back to me.
Well, the story from the wedding is that actually
there's a picture going around of the table place card
for Taylor and Travis.
And it says Taylor and Travis Kelsey.
Like reading some to believe, are they secretly married?
I for sure thought they got engaged that time
that they had a party for the end of the hours tour.
And like, she had blurred out her ring finger
and all the pictures and was hiding her ring.
Like she was acting like an engaged person
in some pictures being like, huh?
And then literally it's blurry.
And then in other pictures being like this
knowing those were the ones she wanted to post.
Right.
So I actually would like be open to the idea
that they're secretly married.
I can't believe that this is the story
is whether they're not they're married
and not that this was a faux pas by the bride and groom
to not put her, like she's losing her last name.
Yeah. Like she's the most recognizable name in all the world.
Like, how many times, it's like when George Clooney
started dating the doctor and they're like,
you know, they started calling, you know,
they were like, George Clooney and the doctor.
And it's like, the people are like,
no, she's got a career too.
And it's like, well.
George Clooney's wife.
Right, right, right, and then they do like,
whatever her name's husband now
to get back at him in a thing that he didn't even ask for.
No, that's powerful, Jared.
That's powerful stuff.
We changed society.
So I don't know, I can't believe that's not the headline.
It's like, how do you not have Taylor Swift
and Travis Kelce?
But if they're married, I don't know.
Then they would be Taylor and Travis Kelce.
Or they would be Kelsey Swift. I don't know. I don't know. Then they would be Taylor, Travis, Kelsey. Or they would be Kelsey Swift.
I don't know.
I don't know how that would work.
I mean.
I could see her being traditional in her personal life
where it's like, I'll take my husband's name
in like familial settings.
And then of course, like I'm not Taylor, Travis, Swift.
Right.
That's a reasonable, that's just, people are reasonable.
Do you think they're secretly married based on this?
I think that what I know of Taylor is she is way more
in tune with the internet than most mega celebrities are.
She knows the joke, she knows the inside talk,
all the bracelets, the friendship bracelets,
that's all like internet chatter that she picked up on.
I do think she likes this
are they, aren't they thing that's going on.
I think like the only reason to blur your finger
is to keep up, keep the, you know, the gas on the fire.
I am of the belief as a Taylor fan,
I think she, there's no bigger capitalist in our society.
Like I think she loves making money.
So I think she will stoke the flames of her own story,
even though there's no need to do it anymore.
You've won Taylor.
You've made all the money.
But is that how you stay on top?
Right, but like, I don't know,
I guess that's how you stay on top,
but like what's on top?
Yeah, I don't even think it's about money necessarily
all the time at this point.
Like she just has something to prove.
Right, well, that's the thing.
I think that's, it's never about money
once you've made that much money.
It's making the money.
Yeah.
You know, it's being the top dog.
You know, like, you know, when you go,
why do these billionaires keep making rockets?
They get off to making the rockets.
So I think Taylor has that in her too.
Like, some people like food, me. Alcohol, me.
Women, me, but not as much as food and alcohol.
And some people like making money.
Like if someone gave me $10 million right now,
the way I would disappear off the face of the earth.
Right.
Like I would do standup, that's it.
You'd only hear- You'd do the standup
for the love of standup. I love do stand up, that's it. You'd only hear- You'd do the stand up for the love of stand up.
I love doing stand up.
I love writing a bit, I love figuring it out.
I love the puzzle of it.
I love the puzzle of like trying to get more people
to my stand up, which is doing podcasts and things like that.
But I would just, you would be like,
Jared's like doing like a 20 seat room
in the back of a bar in Delray.
Yeah.
And it would just be me doing for the 20 people.
I would do that.
And I'd have my house near the beach
and they'd be like, is that Jared?
I'd be beard.
So that would be enough.
10 million would just be enough for you.
I think 10 mil would get me there.
I don't know, maybe I gotta look up,
I gotta do some.
Are you high maintenance?
I am until I'm not.
Like I, again, I like to complain,
but I don't need very much.
Like I think like, but I don't know,
maybe because I'm a slob, I'm not like.
Not like a core pride.
Right, I don't know, like I just, are you high maintenance?
Like do you, you have needs. I have needs, but I handle my needs. That's why I don't think, are you high maintenance? Yes. You have needs.
I have needs, but I handle my needs.
That's why I don't think I'm high maintenance.
I don't make it other people's problem.
I take it all on, but I have needs.
If you could fly first class, never private
the rest of your life, that's the only thing you could get.
Would you be okay with that?
No, I want the potential of private. You want the potential in private?
Yeah, yeah, like I want it, yeah.
Right, once you've flown private,
I've done it a couple times.
Just the not going, getting there the minute
the plane takes off is like,
you realize how crazy that is,
and you're like, I can't not see this again.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
I know I've met a few comics who go private
to their gigs and I've talked to them about,
I've like asked them, like how do you be relatable and be,
I watched one comic, very famous comedian,
go up at the cellar, he told this whole thing
about first class and then he got off stage,
he's like I haven't flown commercial in like 30 years.
And I was like, that's so funny
that he's still doing airplane stuff.
And I talked to another comic and he was like,
I was like, you know, he was famous guy.
And I go, well, what did, I go, you know, what are your fan?
They go, we've started talking about it,
like in there publicly, like,
cause it's hard to talk about.
Like, listen, I don't cry for the plight
of the private flyer, but I, in their world,
that's the problem.
But it could go, it could go south,
like it might not hit the way you think.
It's just, you're trying to relate to a big crowd of people
and you have to explain that you fly private.
Yeah.
And they were saying, they were like, it's like having,
it's like time travel.
And they were like, I get home and sleep in my own bed
and I get all that time back.
And I'm like, yeah, that's a good point.
I get that.
But 10 million wouldn't get me to private.
That's the problem.
No.
You need like a hundred million to be private forever.
This is what people listen for, the relatable humor.
Yeah, no, but this is, I feel like this is our conversation.
Claudia and I always talk about like,
if we won the lottery, what would we do?
What would you do?
Oh.
Would you do the show still?
I think, yeah.
Once a week?
I think maybe once a week, but I think in addition
to the business element of it, I think,
especially as a mom in different aspects of my life,
it's nice to have adult conversation,
flex my creative muscles, like funny and like stay,
cause you can get like pregnancy brain, mom fog,
like all of these things,
but I do think the show like keeps me sharper
than I would be if I wasn't like forced to talk all the time.
Right, no, listen I-
I think yeah, and we would talk about how life is
in the lottery.
Right, the show would probably be like,
well, it can go either direction.
I would think the show, like any podcast I would do
if I did once a month, like would be like Jet Fuel.
I have like 30 stories.
It would be five hours long.
Do you know how many women like Arielle Frankel
that I would have been dumped by in a month?
You know how many stories I would have?
Oh my gosh, okay, we need to get into our next story,
which is another just-
How was the wedding?
I think it was great, it looked really nice,
and I wish them a lifetime of happiness.
Do you think you'd be okay with being referred to
as the normie wedding?
Yes, if in the context of Taylor Swift,
everyone's a normie. Right, that's fair.
So that's not an insult. She changes everything, she's the context of Taylor Swift, like everyone's for me. Right, that's fair. So like that's not an insult.
She changes everything, she's the sun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Our next story is another,
like we're just gonna fall down the rabbit hole here
because Justin Baldoni's $400 million counter suit
against Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds
has been dismissed by a judge.
This is a major setback for Justin Baldoni
as his counter suit against Blake Ryan
and their publicist as well as his lawsuit
against the New York Times have been tossed out by a judge.
The judge granted the motion to dismiss the $400 million lawsuit filed by Baldoni and
the wayfarer parties against Lively and Reynolds, which alleged extortion and defamation as
well as a $250 million defamation lawsuit against the Times.
The judge noted though that Baldoni's legal team can still amend the claims for breach
of implied covenant and torches interference
with contract if they choose to with the deadline of June 23rd.
So does this end everything?
Like I just never is this story over yet?
I don't think it's ever going to be over.
Like are we still going to trial in March?
Yes.
Oh, they are.
Right.
Well, how could something?
I thought it was all tossed.
I thought this was like the end.
I pray. Again, I, this is a story that I've talked about.
Of course.
And it started as, oh, this is a fun.
So good for content.
Right, hilarious.
Oh my gosh, hot takes left, right.
Really no, like both of these people
are incredibly successful.
Like there's no one that you feel so sorry for.
So like however you wanna come out of it,
like there's no like wrong thing to say. I don't know it started as a story. I don't know. There's so many subjects here that are like real
subjects that people deal with that are serious subjects
So like I when I chew on the bone of a story
I'm always like Oh fun story like I don't want to be in the world of someone going
You just reminded me of this horrific thing for my life.
So when it started as like,
Blake Lively is like kind of a monster,
I was like fun, page six.
And then it turned into a harassment story and a lawsuit.
And then you go, and I kind of did the Homer Simpson
into the Bush thing.
Cause I was like, ah, the Zane.
You went hard against Blake in the beginning.
I didn't go hard, but I was just like.
Like you were anti-Blake, but that's fine.
Well, I just thought it was funny
because Blake was one of those people where
that you could see there was like some page six stories
of like, Blake was in line at this restaurant.
What's the restaurant with the Italian place
with the lasagna that's like in circles?
Carbone?
No, it's in the West Village, it's on Greenwich Avenue.
You're the West Village guy.
I know, I'm the West Village girlie.
She was seen at this restaurant signing autographs,
and she ate like a normal person.
I was like, and I remember reading this and going,
something's off.
Why is this so glowing to her?
But I also feel like I saw a story today,
something about how she was shopping and she was rude,
and it's the same thing on both sides.
I feel like people planning negative stories
about her, people planning positive.
I literally don't care.
I'm sure she's a massive diva.
Like she's one of the biggest stars in the world.
Sure.
I don't care.
Like I really don't care.
She's like nicest.
Not caring is like kind of the funnest place to be
where you go, wow, I guess this person
is planting stories this way.
This person's planting stories that way.
But then when it started getting to the subjects
where I was like, ugh, I'm gonna like back out.
Like, and then it got fun again.
Like, it kept going back and forth
between horrific and fun.
And there's a point where this, we're so far away,
and what people try to do when you talk about something
like this is they try to like,
they try to morally discredit you.
So they'd say, how could you talk about this subject?
Like, and you go, well, I was talking about them saying hi
to someone in line at Carbone, you know?
Like, you know, so, and then it just becomes not fun
and gross, but I do, like, for me, Justin Baldoni,
like, I think they both keep this sticks to them
in the way that Coke and Pepsi,
the first thing out of your mouth,
like what's the first thing you think of with Blake Lively?
I heard she's a terror, you know?
And then what's the first thing you think of
with Justin Baldoni?
It's-
Inseparable.
He might be a horrific, you know, flag waving-
Fake feminist.
Fake feminist harasser.
So they both come out worse, net negative.
They need to have a meeting actually and be done with this.
Come out with their hands held high in the sky together.
Of everything that we've seen, I think he has more,
like I feel like she could get over it
cause like it seems like she tried to steal his movie,
it didn't work out, but like his whole reputation,
like he has Deadpool, they'll be fine.
I just got Blake Brown Beauty in the mail,
they just sent me PR, like the whole kit, her haircare line.
I don't know why, cause I jumped ship recently,
like very publicly,
but I will say I've really enjoyed the haircare.
So she has her hair, they have their movies,
they have their family, they'll be fine.
Justin Maldoni, his whole name is riding on this suit,
so it is a little bit more real for him at this point,
but they do need to meet and like drop it
because it's so bad for both of them.
And nothing good is gonna come of this the more.
And everyone, like people are so tired of talking about it.
It's so tired of hearing about it,
especially now that he's had this loss.
I feel like he has other irons in the fire
of like how he can get his name back.
But, and people say defamation is hard to prove.
So of course this was thrown out, but.
I'm telling you, he needs that more than she does.
I, and I'm speaking about this.
He needs to let it go more than she needs to let it go.
No, I think he needs her to hold his hand up in the sky
more than she needs.
They need to talk about it.
She doesn't need to talk about it.
He needs to talk about it with her
and like have this front-facing public thing.
I'm probably, maybe I'm only saying this
because I'm a man.
I just like, I can see,
I don't think we ever think of him as anything
other than that guy from the lawsuit.
And I think it's either he goes and talks with her
and is like, hey, can we like both?
And she's nice to him and helps him through that.
Or here's another direction for Justin.
Him and Kirk Cameron get together
and they create the faith-based rom-com
that everyone is asking for.
Like that, I think he either goes,
Kirk Cameron, way right,
moms of America, or he gets Blake to help him out. But I think things are worse for her right now
than for him.
I think most people are on his side.
But I'm just saying, I'm thinking like grandma.
Grandma might know that Blake Lively is tough to deal with.
Tough to deal with on set is different than
like you created an environment of harassment.
Yeah, I don't think that plane was landed.
That's the only thing, I don't know him from anything else
but this movie. Me neither, me neither.
Her, it could be 7,000 other things.
Yeah.
Hair care, you know.
But I agree with like this.
The upper east side, whatever, you know, people.
This is like do or die for, like this is all he has.
And he was supposed to have the next movie
and now obviously there can't be a next movie.
Except his character, I didn't read the sequel,
but I don't think his character would be in the second.
Oh, a next, there's a next movie?
That's what this is all about.
Like they want, her and Ryan like wanted
to take the second movie like from him because he had the rights to everything
And so that's what he alleges and like that that that was their motivation behind smearing him
This is so like the movie snatchers
I just like you said this is so down the rabbit hole that like I don't even know what this is really about
You know like and then people are like well, did she just have a crush on him?
Oh.
It's like, see, this is craziness.
And then Ryan got mad.
Right.
This is like the funniest.
That's what's so funny about it is you could line 10 people up
and ask them about the story.
They would have 10 different answers.
You know what?
Let me just tell you.
That's literally what I've been doing the last two weeks,
doing the show with different co-hosts,
because every single day there's something in the news about it.
And I try to ignore as much as I can. I've tried to ignore it, yeah. doing the last two weeks doing the show with different co-hosts because every single day there's something in the news about it.
And like, I try to ignore as much as I can.
I've tried to ignore it, yeah.
But like, there have been, like, this case being thrown out,
like, is something that if we're following the story,
we have to touch on.
So I have had this conversation with so many different people.
And like, we all agree.
Like, we need a moratorium on this story.
Nobody wants to be here. We're not having fun anymore.
And it's not good for anyone.
It's not.
And it's like, that's why, like,
that's why I Homer Simpson this one,
because I was like, there's nowhere I'm gonna get
from this story to even have like a fun bit.
No.
Like, it's not even a fun bit.
It's not enjoyable for any,
like no part of it is enjoyable.
Right, because I got a text from a friend yesterday,
the friend I talk to every day.
Your bestie.
My bestie, easy there.
I, he was like, it's thrown out, to me it was over.
Like I was like, and then we discussed this.
What does he, does he care about pop culture, your bestie?
Like does he?
That's all we talk about.
Does he, what does he do for work?
He's not, he does other things.
He has like a regular job. Yeah, he's like an accountant. That's hysterical. Yeah, this is what we talk about. What does he do for work? He's not in, he does other things. He has a regular job.
He's like an accountant.
That's hysterical.
Yeah, this is what we talk about.
No, this is like our whole lives is what we've talked about.
We love gnawing on the bone of stupid stuff.
That is so funny.
Well, our next story,
I'll be interested to get your thoughts.
Let me just acknowledge,
to some people that story is like the opposite of stupid.
Do you know what I mean?
Like they're like, they see a lot of themselves in it
and I can't really control that.
Like I feel bad for that person,
but I'm also like come halfway to me
and know that that's not why I'm here
or I would never do that to make you feel badly, you know?
Yeah, it's a lot.
It's a lot.
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Aaron Rodgers is fueling marriage rumors with a ring scene in his Steelers contract photo.
So two things, Aaron Rodgers is signing with the Steelers. Claudia and I actually had a
bet about this, I'm pretty sure on the show. We were, we talk a lot about him because he's
just like so interesting. And she said he was gonna retire,
that he's like done, loser, goodbye.
Our modern day philosopher, Aaron Rodgers.
Right, and I said, he's not going out this way,
he will go to another team.
That's like, I watched the Enigma documentary of his,
I was like, he literally like broke himself
trying to heal his Achilles heel,
like to just not play anymore, no, no, no.
He signed with the Steelers,
I think she has to make a charitable donation now because I won. Oh good. Yeah, this is nice. In his photo.
I would have backed your bet. You would have. Yeah. I thought it was a sound bet.
He's absolutely taking it. The only way he wouldn't have played anymore is if no one wanted to take him.
But I think you know, there's always the Browns like some team will take him just to sell tickets. Right.
And he's still better than like half the league's
quarterbacks.
Right.
Like to say he's bad is like not the strongest take.
Like he's a, he's one of the top 15 to 20 quarterbacks
in the world.
Right, like he's not zero.
So as long as he's not zero and he wants to play,
there'll be a team for him.
Right.
In his photo signing with the Steelers, he is wearing-
He's also the most insufferable human being I've ever-
You're not an Aaron fan?
This guy stinks.
Aaron's party?
Aaron's party.
I was just in Pittsburgh.
I was just at shows in Pittsburgh,
and Pittsburgh's the biggest football town in the world.
Yeah.
No one cares about football
more than a Pittsburgh Steelers fan,
but they are Steelers fans.
They love the culture, hard working grit,
and they are so not excited.
They're not. That's the vibe.
The vibe I got was like,
please don't ruin, don't embarrass our team.
It's like your sister marrying a guy that you're like, as long as she's happy.
But could you see like his level of like passion
and theirs, if they can get on the same page,
like them just being like obsessed?
We can, listen, the Steelers-
Like if he starts winning for them and like-
Winning fixes everything.
He's Steelers proud and then then they have that zeal.
Winning is the fix-all for anything.
Making money and winning are two things
that make everyone happy.
Smooth everything out for it.
The minute you stop making money,
you make a little less the next month,
hey, why are you doing the ad read that way?
Aaron Rodgers to me is a narcissist
who loves himself more than anyone else on earth.
He thinks his opinion is smart and revolutionary.
He thinks that going to a quiet room
and closing his eyes for a few hours
makes him somehow on a different level than the rest of us.
And cause he can throw a football
and he gets paid $10 million a year.
He can believe that.
I think that if they're winning, they'll be okay.
If they start losing and he starts doing things
that make sure Aaron Rodgers looks good,
that's what worries Steelers fans the most
because they love it.
To me, to Steelers fans, and listen, I'm a football fan.
I've went to Penn State, so I know Steelers fans very well.
They just want the team, wave the towel,
go team, and just be, they want the family to be good.
Is he a team player?
I think if you win, you are, but you know.
Even if they lose, I feel like even with the Jets,
they stunk, it was really bad all around.
But like he was like in with them through the losses,
giving pep talks.
He also had a coach that got fired
in the offensive court.
I don't know.
But I'm saying the coach got fired.
It wasn't in the documentary.
Yeah, that might have been left out of
the documentary he made about himself.
Did he make it?
Yes, he doesn't just do a documentary.
I just think he's like, he is just,
it is that thing of like, if you can throw a football,
now I have to like hear you wax on.
Yeah.
You know, like no, you know, so I don't know,
I do think the Steelers, like I could, I just,
I mean, I went on stage every night the last weekend,
it was like Aaron Rodgers, and it was just like this like,
okay, I hope it goes well.
They're stealing themselves.
I think it's like a wait and see situation.
He'll have to prove himself.
But this is a passionate town that is never wait and say,
go Steelers and you go, Aaron Rodgers, what do we think?
And they're like, we're just hoping for the best.
It's like a, I used to say that about Buffalo.
Like the Buffalo fans were always like,
they treated the Bills like it was their,
like in and out of rehab younger brother.
They were just like, no, no, no, be nice to him.
He's gonna be okay.
No, we hope for the best.
And we just don't speak too loudly around Buffalo Bill.
You know, like same feeling with this.
Buffalo Bill. Okay know, like same feeling with this. Buffalo Bill.
Okay, I understand.
It will be exciting for the NFL storyline though.
Of course.
Because if it goes north, great.
If it goes south, interesting.
If it goes south, it will be interesting.
Listen, he's never gonna be bigger
than the Steelers to Pittsburgh people.
So no one's gonna take his side.
I think he knows that.
I think in New York, the Jets, there's division already.
People know they're a bad franchise.
They were hoping-
You could blame it on a million things.
Right, but the Steelers, it's like, salute the flag.
So I think he knows that.
I think he's smarter than that.
Well, anyways, the story at hand is on his hand
in the picture, he's wearing a ring on his ring finger,
on his married finger.
He is like with a new girl and people are wondering
if another one, if he's married.
It also sort of looks like an aura ring,
which you're not supposed to wear on your ring finger.
But, and it actually doesn't look like an aura ring,
it does, what do you think?
That looks like a ring.
That looks like a ring.
That looks like one of those like rubber rings
that Midwestern dudes wear with their Viori shorts
at the gym.
Yeah, at the gym.
Like I'm taking off my wedding ring
and I'm putting on my rubber ring.
Right, it's dude who very much wears Viori and bonobos
type of ring.
Do you think Aaron Rodgers is married to Taylor Swift?
Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Swift, I don't think he's married,
but that ring, it's tough to like.
He's literally wearing a redding ring.
Right.
He's not married.
Well, maybe.
Sometimes it's like, it's just, it's what you're looking at.
Like.
Well, here's the beautiful thing about like being Aaron Rodgers
is like, it's, you get to always be like, it's about the football.
So like, oh, what am I gonna talk about?
Am I married?
Why would you care if I'm married?
But he knows, I do think he knows people care.
I think in the way Taylor Swift,
I'll be fair to Taylor,
I think he's one of those people
who knows what's being written and said about him.
I wouldn't be surprised if he heard me on this podcast.
Oh, I wouldn't be surprised.
But we're really kind to Aaron, so.
I just said he stinks, so.
But I think that's balanced, you know?
Right, yin and the yang.
Except what he did to Shailene,
I don't know what he did, but ever since.
What'd he do to Danica?
Danica just came out and.
Olivia, what about Olivia?
What about, Danica was like, she was pretty damning.
It was like that was a really hard part of her life.
Yeah. That, you know, the Aaron Rodgers split. And was just like, that was a really hard part of her life. Yeah.
That, you know, the Aaron Rogers split.
And then his family, there's just so much.
There's a lot, that's what he is.
He leaves a lot in his wake.
When you said he's interesting, he is interesting.
Yeah.
I do think he is interesting by his own design.
Yeah.
Like I think- You don't think he's inherently
just an interesting person, so like things follow him.
You think that he-
I think when you make a documentary about yourself
where you're the hero,
like you think of yourself a certain way.
You think of yourself as the underdog.
I was never drafted.
You know, unrecruited, had to go to Cal, had to transfer.
I know the story gets, you know, has to back up.
Ret Five was taking the draft,
waiting in the draft waiting room.
He is writing the story.
You know, sometimes.
I'm literally lapping it up.
I'm like, he was passed over in the job.
He's been through so much.
It's like the Our Story page on the wedding website.
Women write that for themselves.
They write, well, at first I wasn't into him,
but then he took me out 7,000 times.
You know, like, it's like their own,
that's their own version of writing Marvel.
Yeah, that is so funny.
We all love being the underdog, by the way.
Like, that is, we love it.
No one believes they're the villain,
no one believes they're the hawks and the mighty ducks.
We're all the ducks.
We're all the ducks.
Right?
Our next story, we're actually gonna skip ahead
to our Love Island story because Love Island
Beyond the Villa trailer and premiere date
have been set at Peacock.
So Peacock just announced that Love Island,
last season's Love Island is getting a spin-off show
of like following them in LA, like Vanderpump Rules style.
Ooh.
Yeah, so the trailer premiered yesterday
and it played after last night's episode of Love Island.
Season six Islanders will be on Love Island beyond the villa, which will premiere on Sunday, July 13th.
The series cast includes like a bunch of the stars from last season and appearances from other former Islanders.
It features Ariana as well. They visit her sandwich shop, something about her.
And yeah, this is a first of its kind. I think it's an amazing idea.
Well, it's them looking at the valley
and going, we can outdo that.
No, but it's like, we had this amazing season
with this great cast and it was like,
lightning in a bottle.
Why does it have to end there?
Like we now, we have these stars,
why not put them back on TV? And why do we have to wait till someone else picks them up?
Like a Vanderpump Rules or a Summer House?
Like, why can't we make our own show?
Right, no, this is, I mean, this is the,
the streaming wars kind of happening before our eyes.
Again, like, I bring up The Valley
because that's a show where they're like,
oh, we'll take all these people and put them in this one.
And they're like, well, we have people,
it's the good and bad of the follower economy where it's like, oh, we have people, it's the good and bad of the follower economy,
where it's like, oh, they have a following,
so put them on this show.
The good part about these guys
is they had a successful season.
Yeah.
So there is interest, they are interesting,
they are performative in the way
we want them to be performative.
So I think this comes from a good place of like,
they like them, give them more.
It's always a safer bet to go with people who have a record of being good on real life
TV, even if you seem interesting or even name that we've heard of, like you were just talking
about this yesterday with Rachel Zoe going on Real Housewives of New York.
Like, yes, she's interesting, but don't forget she had her own show.
Like she can do the job as opposed to other big names who go on Real Housewives who flop,
but that's because they're untested.
Right. They could be good, but they could flop, but that's because they're untested.
They could be good, but they could also not be.
Just because they have a name we know doesn't mean much.
Some people get a taste for that
and they realize they don't like it right away.
I think it's like, you have something go viral.
This happens a lot on TikTok, which you're not on,
but I think you know that someone goes viral for something
and then they do it to death.
Yeah.
You know, you can like, they go,
and you can tell that person liked the feeling
of going viral.
They wanted to make sure they went viral again.
So, you know, if they, you know, go viral for like,
hey, I'm gonna bop my head to music from the early 2000s.
Whoa, that, that works.
So keep on playing the hits.
And they keep going with it.
If that, you know, if they wanted to be creative,
they would do something else that fit their creative,
you know, creative muscle.
So I think this is a no brainer.
Like if you're Peacock, especially.
It's a no brainer, but they don't,
but people don't do this, you know?
No one's ever given The Bachelor,
the people who came from a good season of The Bachelor
then followed those girls in LA.
Right.
The Bachelor universe to me,
I think they've made too much money to ever,
to me they're the $10 million, we do this once a week.
Like we've already made our money,
I don't wanna do anymore.
Yeah, no, they're not really acting competitively.
Right, I think for the bachelor,
and it's what bothers me,
because there's so many things where it's like,
we're doing this date again, we did this date.
You could put 10 minutes of thought and brains,
one brainstorming session would have an even better date.
And you can tell it wasn't done.
So for this, it's like, the bachelor's like,
oh, we could have this and this.
And then they go, no, they're making money.
It's a cash cow.
But I like that, I think Peacock is like one of those things
where they're like, we're fighting for our lives.
We need the next show.
Even they do like Real Housewives Ultimate Girls trip.
They do these like alumni shows.
I think they do Traders.
Like I think they've really seen the value
in like repurposing reality TV stars
who have a proven track record.
And I think that's a really sound formula.
I mean, look at, I'm in and out of Survivor,
but I used to be big on Survivor back in the day.
Seeing Boston Rob back, I love that so much.
This is a guy who performed, he was amazing on TV.
This is what he's meant to do.
And then you see him on Traders, you're like, yes!
Bring back this guy who's just good, you know?
Yeah, it doesn't have to be so hard.
Right.
So that's very exciting.
Of course, the one season I didn't watch,
so I don't know who any of these people are.
And I might watch, the show actually looks really good,
and especially if these were my people, if these were any of the seasons I watched, or I don't know, Love of these people are. And I might watch, the show actually looks really good, especially if these were my people,
if these were any of the seasons I watched,
or I don't know, Love Island UK season five people,
oh my God, I'd be freaking out.
So I understand people are really excited.
Is it them trying to make it in Hollywood?
That's, from what I saw, it's the couples from the show.
Some of them are still couples.
They're living together, drama amongst friends.
I think some of the BFFs, the besties,
having some infighting, just like,
I don't know what you would call it.
A docu-series.
A docu-series.
I think, you know who's done this well underratedly?
90 Day Fiancé.
90 Day Fiancé has done a really good job of like,
hey, we're gonna like, we had this couple,
bring them into this next show.
And they have them watching on the couch.
They do a good job of keeping the 90 day community,
you know, up and running.
A breast.
Yeah.
Well, that is all the time that we have for today.
I feel so sorry for the Dear Toasters community
because you guys are gonna have to be on pause.
Talk too much, I'm sorry.
But no, we just had so many great conversations
and we like are out of time
and I wanna get this episode up, but like thank you.
Thank you. This is such a pleasure.
This was such a pleasure and I'm sorry to the DTQ, I will make it up to you.
I'll come back into a question.
And no, Claudia and I do this all this time where like the episode goes too long and we don't have time for dear toasters
and so like we push it to the next day or like sometimes doesn't happen that week, the backlash we get.
So I'm ready for it. I understand, blame Jared. Blame me, if you want some email,
I answer dating emails on my Monday episode of J-Train.
I have two podcasts.
Right, well that's, tell us everywhere
we can follow you and listen to you.
No, no, no.
The J-Train podcast is daily.
I do, Mondays I take emails,
Tuesdays people write in with their complaints
and I complain with them.
It's a complaint duet.
Wednesdays is chit chat Wednesday.
I have a guest I would love to have you on.
Just chit chat, little chit chat.
We have still, there's so much left unsaid.
We have a lot to talk about.
Especially I need, you know, I need like Florida Reckos.
Yeah.
Thursday I do pop culture Thursday.
That's why I like pop, seeing page six and like,
you know, I just read page six.
And I just go off the top of the dome.
And then I do the UUP podcast with Betches.
UUP, every Wednesday and Friday, we talk about dating.
We take modern dating podcasts.
We've been doing it for seven years
and it's a pleasure to do.
And I, you know, I'm like the male,
I give you whatever the guy's thinking.
That's what we need.
And we do cherish that advice.
I hope you guys got some good dating tips from Jared,
a little male POV.
You have to take what I say and just know that like,
I'm speaking honestly about my own situation.
I'm not an expert.
And I'm giving you basically, if I'm thinking it,
I'm within 10% of any guy you're dating.
Cause most people are very similar.
You know, like we're all 10% away from each other,
how we're feeling, how we're thinking.
So whoever you're dealing with isn't 100% away from me.
You know, if you do the math on it, if you're logical.
But yeah, so the UUP podcast has been,
it's such a pleasure to do and I love working with Betches.
So it's great, yeah.
So, and then 37 and Single, it's a stand-up special.
You can watch with your parents,
you can watch with your friends.
I'm sure they'll relate to it.
Love that, and you're Jared Freed on Instagram.
At Jared Freed.
Love that, well thank you so much for being here.
This was an absolute pleasure,
and we will see you all tomorrow.
Love ya, bye.