The Toast - The Man in the Arena: Friday, March 22nd, 2024

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Friday! Congratulations! Congratulations, Class of 2004! We did it! Congrats, grads! We graduated from this week. Congrats, grads! We are the graduates of this week.

And might I say you graduates are looking absolutely gorgeous today. What week number of the year is it? How many weeks in are we? Let me guess. Let me guess. 16. Oh, I was going to say 10, 11. Oh.

Let's see. This is important information. Oh, yeah. Wait, no. How many weeks have we endured? It's literally 10 11 three four five six twelve seven eight nine completion of the 12th week that's pretty major i would say yeah i feel like i feel confident saying this is the only podcast

yes yes you're gonna know that this was the completion of the 12th week of the year. And we're just not doing things other people are doing, you know? We are constantly setting the bar higher and higher. And chasing after it, you know? And grinding. We're on our grind. Now, today is Friday. I have, as of this this morning officially completed my final furniture delivery the couch made its way into my apartment no problem this morning and i'm done

ty c and b i love crate and barrel i'm so happy for you that was pretty quick on the rescheduling front yeah usually you know furniture're like, we'll see you when we see you. Yeah, they're like, oh. And there's nothing you can do about it. Oh, I'm dumb. No, you're dumb. I'm smart. I'm old. You're young.

And there's nothing you can do about it. No, like, there's literally nothing you can do. What are you going to do? Pick it up yourself? It's a good question. Do you have a truck? Because if you had a truck, you would know what it's like to make your own deliveries but you don't that's literally them they literally look at the calendar

and they're throw a dart i think we'll just deliver in july no it's so true what if we just said fall joggers and we're all just sort of at the helm. At their whims. And my favorite part, my favorite thing that they do is when they're like, sorry, supply chain. I haven't heard supply chain in a while, honestly. There was like a three-year period where like you couldn't even get like an ice cream at McDonald's supply chain. What about, sorry, stuck at the port.

Oh, I haven't heard that. For a while. It's held up at customs. You know, customs does a random search once a year and they chose us today. That actually did happen to me with my desk. That happened to me with my books. Oh, my book club met last night. I saw.

Like, you know the book was bad when you don't even talk about the book. The book was so bad we couldn't even have like a critical conversation because that would require it to have been like somewhat thought-provoking or interesting. We couldn't even critique. We couldn't even do peaks and pits. I was like, the peak of my book was when it ended and the pit was when it started.

Like, there was literally no structure. The book was a piece of shit. And then we all got into this sort of conspiracy theory about Reese Witherspoon because the girl who picked it was like I'm so sorry and we were like honestly we can't even blame you it was a Reese's choice when when a book has that sort of stamp of approval on it you're like all right it's not going to be the biggest piece of shit in the world you would think but you guys like this book was like and I know art is subjective this book is not it was a piece of shit book like and when I posted on my Instagram everybody was like I was so shocked so shocked so shocked people were like oh my god no it's on my list because it's like it's one of those books it's an industry plan

after your review it's an industry plan book and so then I was trying to explain to everyone how like Reese is sort of monopolize the market on books and movies and I'm sure she was able to get the rights to this book in terms of making it into a movie or a show. She's going to make it really popular. And then there'll be some sort of demand for it. But at its core, and if you're a reader, like it's not a good book. It's giving Reese's Ponzi scheme.

It's giving Hello Ponzi. Hello Ponzi. Well, this is just a great time. Jackie, it's giving Ponzi sunshine. This is a great time to remind you that we don't have a Ponzi Well this is just a great time Jackie it's giving Ponzi sunshine This is a great time to remind you that we don't have a Ponzi scheme going on over at the Redheads Like maybe if we did That's not what I heard Maybe if we did we could make a buck

I heard I heard that the Redheads is running a Ponzi scheme and that host is on Ozempic On opposite day Did you hear that on April Fool's On opposite day What are you four Did you hear that on April Fool's? On opposite day. What are you, four? Did you hear that on April Fool's? No, I heard it on March 20th.

Let me tell you how ready I am for April Fool's. Like, every time I see something slightly nefarious, I'm like, is it April Fool's? Like, I'm on guard. Oh, wow. She's got her guard up. We're like two weeks out, and I've been on guard. I'll see like some crazy headlines. I'm like, April Fool's?

No. But also, all that to say, everyone's being crazy. Okay, by the way, this is your warning. Jackie O has reminded us all, be on alert. Because even the people like to get creative

like the days leading up to starting their prank. People are getting like a little nutty about it. Don't be fooled by the rock set they got. You know? Like, it's April Fool's.

Yeah. Don't be fooled. So just stay on alert for that. I can't talk about book clubs without saying that the renaissance of the Redheads is well underway. It's in full effect. 2024, the year of the Redheads.

You don't want to miss this. That's what I'm going to say. And if you want to be reading pretty quality books, check out the Redheads. And all that to say, Reese's Book Club needs to hire Dana is what they need to do. Pitch. Because she. By the way, you pitch. I need to fix my camera so I'm here. I think I've said this before but Dana reads so much. She's a really good book critic and

she should have like a freelance job at Reese's Book Clubs where she reads the manuscripts and chooses good books and gives her recommendation. That would be like the perfect job for her. Of course it would be an inherent contradiction with the Redheads but we could maybe figure something out. It would be an inherent contradiction with the Redheads but we could maybe figure something out. It would be an inherent contradiction with the Redheads but Rising Tides Rise All Shines and Dana sort of being employed by the world's leading book club while also cultivating a passion of hers her book club. I think Rising Tides would Rise All Shines. And that skill set doesn't really apply to the Redheads because we all choose a book that none of us have read. So it's not like these are book recommendations. Like we're all going on a journey together.

A June's journey. Oh, speaking of June's journey is a sponsor today. Thank you so much. We're all going on a June's journey. And I also can't talk about socialization without. What's socialization? Just like social things. You were talking about your book club.

Oh, socializing. Yeah. I was like what I had a brain moment I'm like what does the word socialization mean Just like the zation of social Got it Without saying that yesterday

I was the most social person on the planet I really kind of want to take my headphones off for this Like you hanging out with another influencer Like okay I'll just I'll go I'll see myself out Not only did I go to lunch with another influencer I also went to dinner last night I didn't even host Did you go with another influencer like okay i'll just i'll go i'll see myself out not only did i go to lunch with another influencer i also went to dinner last night i didn't even post did you go with another influencer no i went with some new friends but i went out for lunch and out for dinner it was

a lot of social battery for your girl no it's actually crazy how like you have so many friends now like you didn't even call me yesterday like you're kind of done with me no i know and i'm like so busy i didn't even post on my Instagram that I went out to dinner. Like I was just. Did you say, no, I know that you're too busy for me. You should have said, no, dirty, I'm not. Well, I'll never, of course, be too busy for my turday. But yesterday was just a particular busy day,

wherein I also overestimated how much better I was feeling because I really wasn't feeling that great. And it was really kind of a struggle to be so social and so unwell. But that's the thing. That's the thing about getting sick that's the thing about getting sick is that knowing when you're recovered is kind of a skill set that I don't have like I always think I'm better next you know I'm in the hospital because I thought I was better and I started to like do too much I didn't think I was 100% better but I didn't want to cancel my day and I wanted to honor my commitments because as I said I had lunch with a fellow influencer yesterday who's also a toaster the best kind of influencer

factual um and we just had a great girly swirly afternoon I went to lunch with Mary Orton she's okay this is really disgusting she's this is really disgusting I'm sitting right here I'm sitting right here fabulous oh influencer I feel like vomiting I'm sorry turny you would have loved it the only thing that was missing was you my influencer partner in crime well thank you IP your I pick yeah it's a great partner it's so great to have an influencer partner in crime some influencers have that and some don't and I I feel for those that don't. I feel that way as well actually a lot of the times. Obviously with you like but with the New York stuff I also feel that way about Margot. Like if I'm ever going to something where I have like a little bit of like is this going

to be awkward? Margot's like nine times out of ten going to be there. It's like actually not fair. Yeah. I guess sometimes people bring like their assistant or their photographer or they have a plus one. People will extend that plus one arm I never did that and then sometimes like if I went to an event that you or Margo weren't at and I was solo dolo no but the true like good events don't let you bring plus ones

but sometimes like influencers need to bring their their photographers like to take their picture because if they're being paid to post from there, like you need someone to shoot the content. For me, I don't know why I never like thought that far ahead because I was always having to ask someone to like take a picture of me. Like I could die. I could seriously die.

But clenching pain. Painful. This is not the industry for me. It's not. That's why she left town. She left the industry. She said, fuck you bitches. I'm out.

No, like sometimes are you ever in a moment where you're like so uncomfortable and you just kind of like see yourself from up above? And it's like it feels like that MTV like you're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation. You know, people use that phrase all the time that you like float out of your body and you're sort of watching yourself. That has literally never happened to me. Oh, my God.

So many times I'm like looking down at myself I'm like how did you get into this position but like how are you getting that aerial view of yourself I'm being dead serious like you have a drone I seriously don't understand more of an imagination it's an imaginatory moment it's an imaginatory moment yeah Yeah. That's never happened to me. Next time you find yourself in like a weird space or like just like feeling weird, just zoom out on yourself. It's really funny. That's so funny that you bring that up because I don't even think I realized like I made a conscious decision many years ago.

Like I was not going to make myself vulnerable to being in situations like that. Like I don't know how or why, but like I said, I'm like, I'm not making myself feel uncomfortable or weird. I have not found myself in like a genuinely uncomfortable moment in a really long time. I won't let myself get there. Like I'll just leave. That's good for self-preservation, but those moments are also good for growth. So true.

But at what point? I'm hearing, I'm hearing Phantom Romeo quivers. I heard something too, honestly. You did, right? And it's not the Stry guy. He is here in studio today in his chair. I heard like a Honestly You did right And it's not the Stry guy He is here in Studio today In his chair I heard like

Did you hear this I heard something I'm not gonna lie So in terms of The show today We have five stories Would you be able To describe those

Five stories in Three words for me My absolute most Annoying favorite Thing to ask you Okay not in three words We can play that game Another time

Because I do have a way To describe these stories That I feel like Will let everyone know Maybe I could ask For permission ask you okay not in three words we can play that game another time because i do have a way to describe these stories that i feel like we'll let everyone know maybe i could ask for permission to go outside the bounds of the framework of the show can i give you five words here's the thing about the stories today uh what oh you're scaring me it's five words. Oh, great. Five stories, five words. So far, there's only four. That's fine, by the way, because we have Queenie and Meanie of the Week. We can make that a fifth story. Yeah.

The thing is, we're so, we hold ourselves to such strict, no one cares if we did seven stories or if we did four. Like, it's Friday. I think it's fine. Unless there's some breaking news. Every once in a while, like, we accidentally do four. I've never done it intentionally and, like, tried to gaslight people. Like, it's fine. Unless there's some breaking news. Every once in a while, like we accidentally do four. I've never done it intentionally and like tried to gaslight people. Like here's the best five.

And then knowing it's only four. And I could so easily do it to you too, because you're always like, what number is this? I just kind of exist in this weird time-space continuum when it comes to the stories. And you just trust me that there's five. And I'm being honest. And I could have been dishonest today. But I just feel like transparency is why people love this show.

We're authentic to a fault. To a fault. Remember that one time we tried to clickbait? I will do a quick another look-see at the stories while you're doing the ads. But if there's only four, I'm not going to torture you with a fifth story from CNBC business that nobody wants to hear.

CNN.com slash money. Well, that sounds good. That sounds interesting. Actually, I did see a money story today that for a second I thought was interesting, but I didn't want to talk about it. Do you want to talk about it right now? Only because we're talking about CNN.com slash money. Come on.

Guess what company went public on the stock exchange yesterday? I love stories like this. Let me think, let me think, let me think. I don't know. Reddit. Yucky. Now, wow, I just wasn't expecting to hear this story. And they went under the ticker Y-U-C-K.

No, I think they went under the ticker Y-U-C-K. No, I think they went under. I thought that I had seen that their ticker was L-O-S-E-R-S. Oh, yeah. That's what their alternate trading is under. Okay, so funny. We had actually went on this rant a couple of weeks ago that, like, if you find yourself on Reddit, like, you are a mentally ill person. It's a seek treatment immediately immediately, like pause the podcast. And a lot of people,

we got feedback being like, listen, like your POV of Reddit is obviously like those awful pages where they like write stuff about influencers. But like most of the platform is extremely useful. Like if you're into, you know, handy work and you know, I have actually recently ended up, it's basically replace replace yahoo answers you know when you need a question to an answer like it's usually on reddit actually I was having a tech issue with my podcast machine literally on Monday and I found the answer on reddit so I hear what people are saying but yeah yeah no I I feel like I'm always asking google a question and then it'll take me to like someone on Reddit Who asked that question about like

Yeah Some nonsense Okay Thanks No and I've actually been thinking a lot About Reddit recently And like I

And you too But obviously I was making it about me Like I am So incredibly famous Like it's actually crazy I think I need like full time security Like I need It's Should I think I need like full-time security. Like I need,

it's, should I move to LA? Yeah. Well then would you be as famous in LA or more famous? How would that work? Oh, you know, I do often think about that.

I feel like a lot of like influencers or people who are doing their thing and then move to LA, they get kind of lost out there. I actually completely agree. and metaphysically. Yeah. Yeah.

And I feel like everyone in LA has a Reddit. Yeah. Are you more of a big fish, small pond? Oh, yeah. Small pond, big fish. Yes, don't even finish the question. Big fish, small pond. But not that New York City is a small pond at all.

When it comes to like podcasting, content creation, not comedy. But yeah, it kind of is. Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess it depends. And we learned that lesson so many times, the hard way trying to get guest co-hosts. But it's definitely doing better now than it was in terms of influencers in the city. Yes, there's a small renaissance occurring.

That's a show I want to watch, Influencers in the City. They have tried so many times. Why can't they just make a decent show? All those, like the influencers want to be on TV. The TV wants people who have followings. Like why is this so hard? It's actually hard and I think it's something that the Housewives franchise faced is that the influencers who want to be on TV are really not people that we're interested in watching. The true, like I want to see Ariel Charnas. She would never. Okay, she would never. And I feel like we do

need to, like, level set our expectations. We're not going to get Ariel Charnas. But there are plenty of influencers. I would never. Influencers aplenty. But, like, who? I don't know. Like, Margot's girl gang. Girl gang. Show about them.

Put them on the show. I love, love, love all of's girl gang. Show about them. Put them on the show. I love, love, love all of them. Though Margo wouldn't be on it. She wouldn't want to. And I don't think that would be successful. I don't. And that's not a knock to those girls, I swear to God. I just don't think it would.

Because you're thinking very insularly. I'm thinking about people with global brands, Ariel Charnas. But I also think it wouldn't be successful because like they have something to protect. They're not going to get their hands dirty. That's the thing. No, like if someone is going on Reality TV to become a household name, like they're going to do the most. They're going to.

They have nothing to lose. They're going to try. Yeah. All they have is to gain. So I think that's the inherent conflict. Yes. And that's why like the true New York socialites, those women who,

ladies who lunch, you will never catch a real one of them on the Housewives, ever. Yeah. Okay, well. Except Cindy Barshop.

Our TV hopes are dashed. Except Cindy Barshop, Claudia's all-time favorite housewife. Only real toasters will know. I don't even understand that joke. Me joke neither anymore I just like

I feel like Jackie used to say that like I loved Cindy Barshop I never even spoke about her there was a time not anymore because I forgot about this joke but there was a time whenever we would like talk about housewives or past housewives like you always she was your go-to she was your keen and you guys I might it might have been twice like i seriously never said she was your key driver and i'll leave it at that yeah because it's the only like you don't have anything else i never even brought up cindy bar shop once ai is able to search all of our episodes for like things that we've spoken about and i can just put it over for you hookers i can just put in when claud Claudia spoke about Cindy Barshop, it's over for you, comma hooker.

It's over for me, for sure. Yeah. So we have to stop AI. For that reason alone. How did we get here? It's Friday. Congrats, grads. Let's go from the top. June's Journey.

Oh, if we could really get that would be such a fun game i actually know how we got here shall i say no five stories there's only four cnn money reddit yeah influencers you're so famous influencers in the city the tv cindy bar shop it's not that crazy it's kind of just further proving your thesis that like all roads lead to cindy bar shop you know yeah exactly and i actually feel like we have a lot of listeners who don't know who cindy bar bar shop cindy bar shop was a one season wonder on the real houses of new york i wouldn't even say she was a one season wonder. She was so forgettable. That's actually.

Except for that she owned a business that did like facials and bedazzling on people's vaginas. Vaginal rejuvenation. It was called Vajazzling. She had like a vagina bedazzle studio. Not that Claudia goes home and studies Cindy Barshop history. Not that I currently have a Vajazzled vagina. Not that she has an appointment later at bar shops. Bar shops. No, no.

Like I'm telling you. There's something here. Maybe it was her bangs. Like there definitely was something extreme. Also her name. Something that drew you, Claudia O ashley to her cindy bar shop there is like a i'm telling you the invisible string is i actually happen to think she has such a fabulous name when you see it written out and you also verbally like cindy bar shop it's kind

of like a a brilliant name so i wasn't wrong all these years no you were you were you I feel like you actually made me upset like now yes I am a self-fulfilling prophecy yeah you made it so thanks powerful woman I am now I feel because we do have the stories there might be four there might be five but we also have Queenie and Weenie of the Week my favorite segment which is our weekly segment where we sort of bestow an honor upon two people as the Queenie and the Weenie of the Week were you being Weenie like this week well you just might be named Weenie of the Week two people places or things yes yes it's mine is a bit more conceptual this week. I love that.

One thing about weenie of the week, it's like, it's truly what you make it. And I do want to start petitioning, seriously, to have queenie removed. I had three options for weenie, and I can barely think of one queenie. I just want to say, it's really not fun. Now, I know we're trying to negate, like, not to be, like, negative queens. That's not why. I just felt, like, balanced. And sometimes I only have a queenie and not a weenie. I don don't like it I like I actually don't like Queenie of the Week but

stand up in the comments should it just be Weenie of the Week also Weenie of the Week rolls off the tongue so much more like fabulous no I think it's good for pause it's good Claudia we have to keep the balance okay let's just breeze through Queenie later like who cares yeah yeah um without further ado here are the fast five maybe four stories that you need to know and the fast five perhaps four stories that you might need to know are brought to you by fashion pass you guys know we have been fashion pass girlies for years in case you don't remember it's the clothing rental service that actually has cute clothes so I know you're gonna say turny why is this rental service different than other rental services well first for starters the shit is cute it's stuff that you can find like on Revolve. It's good

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I reached out to Drake privately but want to give my support for the survivors who were brave enough to share their stories of emotional and physical abuse on Nickelodeon sets with the world children should be protected reliving this publicly is incredibly difficult but I hope it can bring healing for the victims and their families as well as necessary change to our industry. Yeah. How this documentary ended up being about Josh Peck is so bizarre to me. I know Josh Peck personally. Did I think he was, you know, championing the abuse? No, he's a very good guy. think he was you know championing the abuse no he's a very good guy and no pun intended pun intended him being villainized is one of the more bizarre things to come out of this whole saga and i don't know how we got so lost in our rage but i need everybody to resharpen their pitchforks

and leave josh alone and let's tackle the industry let's tackle the infrastructure that made abuse like this possible let's tackle the industry that is's tackle the infrastructure that made abuse like this possible. Let's tackle the industry that is probably still, well, we'll hear another documentary in 10 years about what's going on on some other kids' channel. Right now, as we speak. So, like, seriously, people need to get a grip.

And, like, we've lost the plot. We have. People do need to redirect. Yeah, is it killing you that Good Guys is kind of just, like, the center of the drama this week no actually it's not but like i was talking to ben i'm like i just started looking at him and i'm like how the fuck did you become like like the name on everybody's lips quiet on set and like

you're like right at the center of it literally how literally how but that's so ben he doesn't even try and he finds himself in these like precarious ben literally like just at the center of drama he's like forrest gump no ben was literally on the cover by accident of the new york post because like of course somebody took him to a basketball game and he sat courtside and it was like apparently he stood up at the perfect moment and it's like him and i forget who like like that's bad like he doesn't even try if it was me i would know that like this was a moment and I would literally be like doing my lipstick. Yeah, I want it too much.

No, he's literally far as Gumpy. He just finds himself in the middle of these major moments. And how? I don't know. All's that to say, I thought this was actually a very well-written statement. I thought it was a great statement. It's so obvious, you know, to people who are,

have their heads screwed on straight. Like, yeah, this is tragic. Let's protect the children. Children should be protected first and foremost. Like, let's advocate for change in the industry. It's crazy that it even needs to be said. But I can't even imagine, like, what Josh's Instagram was looking like. Right.

Well, so what had happened was that the day that everything sort of blew up, Josh had posted a TikTok. Right. the day that everything sort of blew up, Josh had posted a TikTok earlier in the day, which was just like his regular content using different TikTok sounds and like being funny. And it was basically just a sound. If I haven't spoken to you since in the last whatever, don't come looking at me. Like it was whatever, just like his regular content.

But it happened to have like gone viral at the time that like the Dan Schneider interview came out. And it was just poor timing. And a lot of people thought it was like a message to Drake. And it wasn't. Like I bet you Josh filmed that TikTok a month ago. He's like an actual content creator. He has 10 million followers.

He's not like, you know, slobs like us. Like I'm sure he is like a, I mean, he probably does run his own social medias. But he's not somebody who just like posts something and then records something and then posts it. I'm sure like this was scheduled. Like he's not um somebody who just like post something and then uh record something and then post it I'm sure like this was scheduled like he's a real content creator yeah but also it's like whatever he had posted on that day people would have taken to mean that he was talking to Drake and whatever TikTok sound it was like you're even you're one of my elite employees like that would have gone well either it's true people would have read into whatever it was right so he cleared up what didn't need clearing up but hopefully people can like fuck off now yeah no I so I refuse to to get into the mindset like I can't understand how

this became about Josh like and I feel like we always say after we watch a documentary and like this one we're like how did this happen and it's like look we've now all learned everything and we're still not mad at the right people right exactly and sorry I don't say we because I have I'm normal but yeah like the toasters are normal too so we're all just kind of like an echo chamber of normalcy it's a little frustrating it's it's a little boring actually no for real like it's a little boring like always having the right takes and being told we're crazy like I'm so over this culture we are normal like traditional good people and every time we say something they're like you guys are so wrong like what what about this maybe you're wrong yeah I'm like kind of sick of it I know Claude but the man in the arena, what do they say about him?

What do they say? I actually know. No, it's like, it's not easy. It's not easy being the man in the arena. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not to say. It's easy to be a slob in the stands booing. It's easy to be a slob in the stands booing.

But no, the man in the arena, like, yeah, that's so me. Who said that that Theodore Roosevelt Theo's that's such a good okay wait what's the ripped ripped to both of Theo's ripped to both oh here is the famous quote it's a long one but I want everyone and I hang on every word it is not the critic who counts slay slay I think what he saying, it's not the slob in the stands who counts. Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. Oh, this is such a slay.

It is. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming. But who does actually strive to do the deeds?

Who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions? Who spends himself in a worthy cause? Who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat Jackie literally it's giving reddit no seriously like I've recently had like a renaissance about Reddit. Jackie, there are 15,000 people who follow that page. Like, they, that's 15,000 people like who hang on to every word we say.

And we are in the arena, dust on our face, blood in our mouths. The man in the arena. Yeah. Oh my God, no. Man in the arena, greater than, slobs in the stands. Well, that's kind of like the thesis of today's episode yeah it is i'm glad for this detour me too i love that quote we're ready for our next story yeah switching gears however pertinent to something that we discussed at the top of the show

one season wonder anna marie wiley has been fired from real housewives of beverly hills after one season anna marie wiley has been fired from the Housewives of Beverly Hills after one season. Anna Marie Wiley has been fired from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills after less than one season. She said on Instagram, I just got word today that I will not be returning to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. To say that I'm disappointed is an understatement. She emphasized that she never auditioned to be on the show and claimed she was asked to star on it out of the blue and six weeks after the cast had already started filming.

I was thrown into filming two weeks later, mid-season. I was very excited about the opportunity. And I thought following exactly what I was instructed to do throughout filming last season was the way the game was played. Listening to what I was instructed to do was my rookie mistake. What I'm disappointed about is that the fans never got to see me or even a glimpse of my unique life story. Like, I'm really, like, one of my least favorite things is like explaining

yourself as a loser you know like it didn't work there's nothing sadder to me it's like it's giving sore loser and it's possible I'm sure a lot of people feel that way for you know at a job that they were fired from anything like I don't like I'm really not interested in your explanation or your excuses. Like you didn't cut it. Yeah. It's just giving sore loser. It is. It's giving bummed. Like I think she has a lot of regrets about how she behaved this season.

I'm glad to know now like she was doing what she thought she was supposed to do as like a housewife. What producers were telling her. And that's that wouldn't have been her choices because they were weird choices um but I after the reunion I was ready to like start anew with her everyone kind of has a crappy first season that you're thrown into the fire I do think it's a little unfair to bring her in the middle of one season she did move the storyline a little bit she didn't do nothing and then to fire her I do feel like she everyone deserves a sophomore season. I agree and if you don't give someone a second chance like you never know what they're truly capable of and I

I sometimes feel conflicted because there are some people who are so absolutely fucking insufferable Peggy Sulhadian who absolutely have to go after one season but I would have felt that way after Eileen Davidson's first season and she turned out to be such a butterfly and there's actually rumors that she has been contacted by producers to rejoin the cast. Oh, I do like that as an aside. I also think if you come on and you know what you're supposed to do and you know the game, like that kind of rings inauthentic too. Like if you've watched too much of the show.

So I think her coming on and kind of shitting the bed is like, is very genuine. And I would have not been opposed to seeing more of her next season. She also talks about like what she had wanted to show in her life. She said, I am as a woman, a proud black woman who is truly blessed with a wonderful, strong black man as my husband who lifts me and our four wonderful children up with so much love and positivity on the daily. It was an important mission of mine for the next season to show a solid black

family unit and that true black love exists even in Beverly Hills. also my struggle with losing my mother to lung cancer within weeks of taping and my struggle with adoption trauma and what was going to be and still will be a new life journey for me to find my biological parents all of which was taped which was never shown the last part i'm good on yeah no it sounds like what she was willing to share was something I might find interesting with somebody I've seen for 10 seasons. Like to come on so strong with such a personal storyline that doesn't involve drama or the other women while admirable and a beautiful story. Personally, it's going to be a no from me on finding your byline.

It's giving, you know, it's giving Melissa Gorga having a sister. And that was like a fan. She had been on TV for 10 years at that point and we still didn't care yeah or ashley darby went and found someone at one point um maybe it was her dad or something yeah yeah don't care no it's one of my least favorite tropes i completely agree um so yeah this is a this is sad for her i feel i feel bad for her that like just kind of shot the bed i feel bad that she was fired and she clearly like really wanted to make it work and that's and had she had more to give and i feel like maybe they could have they didn't i feel like

they didn't need to make this decision right now they could have like had her on the next season like see how the season panned out like what do they have planned for next season who is going to join it's true she really could have like gotten the first couple of episodes a trial and if it didn't work out she'd just be friend of I felt like the reunion was pretty redemptive for her like I wasn't mad anymore about whatever yeah yeah yeah whatever sauce sauce so yeah I also feel like she came on as a friend of Kyle I don't know how close they actually are but Kyle should have given her like a little bit of more of a a leg up handbook yeah but also like Kyle was dealing it's like she was brought on as Kyle's friend and Kyle who should have been her

sort of uh captain was going through her own shit and like literally had absolutely no time to help anyone yeah it's true it's's unfortunate timing. It is. We shall see. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Lucas Gage apologizes to Shania Twain for wasting her time after she performed at his wedding to Chris Appleton.

So Lucas Gage was on Watch What Happens Live talking about his ill-fated marriage to Chris Appleton and he answered questions about the marriage while answering a question about why he...

Answering? While answering, yeah, he did answer. It was a very formal answer. A question about why he and Chris decided to wear fur coats on their big day. He took the time to express some regrets. He said, quote, I want to apologize to Shania Twain for wasting her time. He admitted that wearing the fur coats was a horrible idea.

He said, quote, I mean, we're still holding on. You're still the one after three weeks. That was unhinged. That said, quote, I mean, we're still holding on. You're still the one after three weeks. That was unhinged. That was like the biggest waste of time. I love you, Shania. I'm really sorry about that. He also apologized to Kim Kardashian, who legally wed them. He said, look, Kim's great. She was really sweet to fly us all out and take care of us and pay for everything. Sorry to Kim and Shania. So sorry. sorry no you know what like thanks like i actually appreciate the apology i think we all watched that going down knowing this marriage was going

nowhere it was like the most random quick i stand by the fact that i did not know this marriage was going nowhere i thought this was a really cute couple that seemed well matched no it was literally like a month they were together like two months and then they got married in Vegas and they were divorced after three months or six months. Yeah. Yeah, like I think, sorry, all of us except for Jackie, who's on Ozempic. Yeah.

We all knew that. You really can't be telling people that because then they're going to be like, oh, why isn't it working? How I'm being villainized. You said you were mad mad nobody was speculating that you were on ozambic no no i'm speculating but you're giving comfort like you're my sister so people believe what you have to say about me okay so you want me to be like more speculatory

in my language yes more speculatory please okay so everybody except for jackie oh who's speculatively on those epic um perfect we knew it was going nowhere and to see all these resources sort of being wasted like kim just doesn't marry anyone she doesn't fly anyone she doesn't contact shania twain for anyone having shania twain sing you're still the one probably one of the top 10 biggest wedding songs of the last like decade. Unfair. And you know what? I appreciate the apology. I feel like my time was wasted too.

If you're saying everyone knew this is going nowhere, wouldn't you think that Kim knew too? Like she's his best friend. Yeah, but whether or not she knew, like he's still going through with it. So she's going to make her friend happy. Okay. It's just kind of like a funny pop culture thing. Like no one was harmed in the making of this wedding. You know what like a funny pop culture thing like no one was harmed

in the making of this wedding you know what's a funny pop culture thing hmm Jackie tell me what Lucas Gage has acted in White Lotus oh okay fine fine fine fine fine fine fine but like I don't know he's the only Lucas Gage I know I know there's another one but he's from White Lotus too okay I've seen every episode of White Lotus I could not tell you who Lucas Gage was he worked he was in the I didn't watch the second season but in the first season he worked at the hotel as um I don't know what his like a valet sort he did he have sex with the guy with the um hotelier did he uh and like maybe something to do with weed yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay because do you know why he's famous white lotus to me no that's the thing they always say white lotus actor no he was in that video that went viral of the um zoom audition

where the producer director that he's being that he's auditioning for thinks he's on mute and he says to his like partner god these apartments are so fucking sad yeah yeah yeah that was lucas Gage and that's So when they say White Lotus Lucas Gage they should really say Zoom audition Lucas Gage okay that's how I know him Wow yeah Is that crazy and he was like yeah I know That's why you gotta book me on this role

Yeah and he handled it really well Remember when we said that like we reported on that story Yes yes yes That's Lucas Gage Thank you for the fun fact. You're welcome. I feel like every time we talk about Lucas Cage, you tell me that.

And it's as if I, it's a new every time. Feels like the first time. It feels like the first time every time. I feel that. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Which is our fourth and final story, but it's a really good one okay it

has the power of two stories the power of love jack black says that he's ready for a school rock sequel but mike white needs to write it and he's really busy right now with the white lotus it comes back to the white so true jack black recently told joe while making the press rounds for kung fu panda 4 that he is more ready that he is more than ready to make a sequel to School of Rock, the 2003 comedy classic that was directed by Richard Linklater and written by Mike White. Jack Black has stayed close with his younger co-stars over the years, but a movie sequel has never gotten off the ground.

School of Rock was adapted into a hit Broadway musical, but perhaps it's time to get the band back together on the big screen. He said, I wish there'd be a School of Rock 2 electric boogaloo. Of course he said it that way. Here's the thing a lot of people might not realize Ned Schneebly from that movie was actually the writer of that movie and he didn't have a lot of like crazy success until recently when he wrote White Lotus and obviously now he's like super rich and famous. Now, I probably am one of the biggest fans of School of Rock. Actually, my husband is. But like I love, I quote it on a daily basis.

You're a big fan by marriage. Yes, by, yeah, by blood. However, I actually think this is a movie that needs to like exist on its own in perpetuity. I don't think a sequel would be good. Mostly because the magic of the movie was like all those young kids, like they're 40 now. Yeah, I think for a sequel,

Jack Black's character is a new principal. Okay. One of the kids, Miranda Cosgrove. still teaching at the school? Yeah, he's, oh, Ned Schneebly has Jack,

there's two Ned schniebleys which one the real or the fake jack black they're real mike white yeah ned schniebly yeah but jack black also went by ned schniebly what's his real name in the movie dewey oh yeah dewey schmidt yeah so dewey sch the principal. Yep. One of the children is now a teacher in the class. Wait Jackie I'm sorry how would he be the principal? He when the movie ended he started. He's like arrested. No he's not arrested he started his own music school. For sure. It's been 20 years. And the music teacher becomes the principal. I feel like the real Ned Schneebly would be the the the principal and Dewey Schmidt would be like the head of the music teacher becomes the principal i feel like the real ned schneebly would be the the the principal and dewey schmidt would be like the head of the music department

like if we want to be realistic for real i love that i love the thought of jack black being the principal but like we got to be logical but sometimes they just make the principal like mr congeniality you know like who does like the teacher that everybody loves like eventually becomes the principal that's how schools work. Right? I don't think so, but continue. Okay, I got it. Okay. Kenneth from Love is Blind is the principal.

I was thinking that too, of course. No, okay. Can I say my movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can say your movie. Dewey is the principal. He went and got his master's. He loved teaching so much.

He became a teacher and a principal. He also does have a musical bend one of the children miranda cosgrove since she is still a working actress and would be great is the teacher for the class miranda cosgrove went on to teach at the school yes miranda couldn't you see that okay then we'll have new students, new musical students. And I guess we do need our new musical teacher. Okay. Now, here it is. Ready?

Ned Schneebly, real one, is the principal. Jack Black is the head of the music department. Miranda Cosgrove and some of the other kids from I'm Not Cool Enough, you know, some of the other kids are parents at the school and their kids are the new class class and then Jack Black like does have to pass the baton on who is the new substitute who comes in and starts a band you know yeah there needs like the big comedy actor of the moment right now who's the young hot thing who's the next jack black he's inimitable but who is is it a woman okay and who like sings too a lot of comedians like weirdly have good voice. Oh, you know who would be so great? Me.

Okay, yeah. But also. Who? That girl. Kat. Cohen. You know what? Kat Cohen.

She would actually be. She would be better than me. The job of Dewey Schmidt goes to Kat Cohen. Maybe she's his daughter. Events, events, I want to go to... Oh my God, she's his daughter. Events, events, I want to go to events. Invite me to your events. Invite me to your events.

No, you're so right. That movie writes itself. No, it doesn't. We did. And we'd like credit. Yeah, we went. Love it. And she's just kind of like,

she gives like bad teacher energy. You know, she comes in hungover yeah it's a fusion i love i think it can be done it has to be perfection otherwise throw it in the trash but if everyone if the key players are on board and the magic and the genius behind the original movie is there for the second movie i think think it can be done. I love. Great. Well, those were our fast-forward stories. Oh, wow, okay. Well, we're not even done because it's time.

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options for Weenie of the Week and Queenie of the Week. I was really only able to scrounge up one. Three different options for weenie of the week and queenie of the week. I was really only able to scrounge up one. Okay, my queenie of the week is Drake Bell. Okay. Coming forward, telling his story, really busting this case wide open and bringing a really important conversation back into the fore. I think he exemplified queenie-like behavior in that. I agree. I think he also continued to exemplify Queenie-like behavior in that. I agree.

I think he also continued to exemplify Queenie-like behavior when he made a video sort of defending his friend Josh when he didn't have to. You know, everyone's loving Drake and the internet has been kind of hard on Drake and he could have just like, you know, sat back and just accepted all this sort of love. But he still, even in a time of healing,

went out of his way to defend his friend so I agree with you yeah who was yours Oprah oh that's a good one Oprah I feel like I've had so many conversations in the last when when her special came out on Ozempic five days ago I've had like 10 different conversations with different people from different like sex of my life and they all watched it and I just find the way that people have been talking about Ozempic is different since her special they all watch the special it was the first time I've seen mainstream media do this overwhelmingly positive piece of reporting on Ozempic and that wouldn't have been possible without Oprah and that was Queenie that was Queenie like so my Oprah my

Queenie is Oprah my weenie my weenie runner-up is Dan Schneider I know of course honestly I was gonna choose somebody from the documentary but it's so weenie is like so we're always like poking fun it's not that serious and I didn't I didn't think that giving someone like you know Brian Peck that I thought it was not no no beyond the pale like yeah I agree um he was my runner-up obviously he exhibited weenie like behavior this week and for the last weeks for thousands of weeks past. But my overall weenie of my personal week that really ruined my week. Was your migraine.

Was my migraine. Weak ruiner. Like I've just been so off my game this week. I feel like I had so many days that I didn't get to. I feel like I've been accomplishing so much and being so productive and it just like stopped me dead in my tracks and it wouldn't go away. And it was giving weenie.

I just want to say the overwhelming consensus from our community was that you were just like kind of your best self this week. Like people have really been sort of complimenting you. So the fact that you feel like you haven't been like your best self, just know that you have. It's been enough. Thank you.

Well, I always give my best self to the toast, but it was the migraine that stopped me from like post toast hours i would never let it affect the show but i had to do less every day this week because of the migraine and i just i've been getting so much done you know even redhead's content took a back seat and it was just unfortunate and really unnecessary and rude and weenie like well migraine you are the weenie of the week for me my not for me my weenie of the week is a little bit different my weenie of the week is dalton gomez because i just think any self-respecting man who even you know has a job accepting one million doll hairs from a woman are you okay now he's also

a weenie because you only got a million Ariana Grande is worth what 240 like both ends of this are weenie like you didn't get enough and the fact that you took oh vomiting weenie I now sir announce you weenie of the week I'm glad that you brought him up because something that I realized that I just been wanting to mention but there's never like a right time to mention just this thought that I had that I noticed is I've been listening to Ariana's album and Kacey Musgraves album. And there's a common theme. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but they both talk about the Saturn something like Ariana has like the Saturn thing. And Kacey's when I turned 27 my Saturn changed like I guess that went after 27 years something happens with Saturn and they both mention it on their

albums I'd never heard of it before it's like a 27 year thing it's like I guess that's why like being 27 is a major change so it's a 27 year thing but it's also like a rich person looking for like an answer to their problems thing like we we all turn 27, we all turn 28, and we don't write songs about it. Like I don't get into that boo hickey, you know, Hollywood, foreign nonsense. I don't. Me neither.

But I know like Mercury is in retrograde. Mercury. Mercury is. I know certain astrological tropes, but they're both talking about Saturn. And I thought it was interesting at the same time. I never heard of it before. What's that effect? Now you hear it everywhere? it everywhere well no that's not the Mandela that's what you think the

Mandela effect is you always say that ain't the Mandela effect there's an effect where like all of a sudden you start seeing this thing everywhere but this isn't even a coincidence because like these albums both came out and they're both talking about motherfucking Saturn I don't blame it on any sort of effect I blame it on like celebrities like being overly. Ooh, hickey nonsense. Overly into astrology and like therapy, honestly. Okay. Well, it was just a double whammy.

Yeah. No, I need to, you know what? I need to add it to my list of coincidences. I don't know if you know, but I have one. I do. The Snow White movies. Exactly the Snow White movies. movies okay here it is yeah there are so many what was this saturn saturn ariana casey this this list is years in the making because some of these things won't

even make sense anymore but like no strings attached in friends with benefits that's a crazy coincidence the two fire festival documentaries at the same like literally the same week um then also at the same time that harvey weinstein was going down there was a hurricane harvey okay um at the same time that everything was happening with stormy daniels kylie named her daughter stormy her daughter yeah her daughter tree and her daughters Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel okay that one's like not that crazy but yeah yeah no but it's a little crazy they do the same thing they literally do the same thing yeah um and then I also have Tennille there's two Tennilles at the same time that we never heard of them again they were like two country artists who popped off they

each had really popular songs and both their names were tenille tenille arts and tenille oh towns towns yeah tones yeah okay it's an important list i like it i like it a lot so i have fabulous dinner plans this evening i'm going to like this new hot restaurant of course ben's offer like got the res i have fabulous dinner plans too but i'm a little nervous about going out to dinner it's my first like out meal being on Weight Watchers is the Weight Watchers does the menu have like points on the side no they need to go to points friendly restaurants cheesecake factory you're literally the points guy oh my god that's funny I like that that's funny thank you thank you so much for listening to the test and let i want to share we deliver the fast side stories

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