The Toast - The Nantucket Witch Hunt: Wednesday, July 29th, 2026

Episode Date: July 29, 2026

1. Madison Beer Engaged to Justin Herbert After Nearly One Year of Dating (E! Online) (18:56) 2. Irina Shayk and Devin Booker Newly Dating and ‘Like Each Other a Lot’ (PEOPLE) (26:28) 3. Olivia Rodrigo and New Boyfriend Julian Croonenberghs Cuddle in N.Y.C. Park (PEOPLE) (30:56) 4. ‘The Odyssey’ To Pass ‘Oppenheimer’s Lifetime B.O. In 13 Days; ‘Hadestown’ Sings $2M+ Monday – Box Office (Deadline) (40:48) 5. Dave Portnoy Weighs in On the Nantucket Influencer Drama (Instagram) (45:06) 6. Olandria Carthen perfects revenge dressing in slit-up-to-there orange gown after Nic Vansteenberghe breakup (Page Six) (53:34) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) ⁠The Toast Patreon ⁠⁠  ⁠⁠Toast Merch⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry⁠⁠ ⁠⁠The Camper & The Counselor⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Lean In⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday. I'm sorry, welcome back to The Turst. I'm joined by Robert Durst. Excuse me.

Do you remember everyone was obsessed with Robert Durst? I have an intro. I don't know. Just changing it up. Why are we terst today? You're just feeling thirsty. That's a weird question to ask. Why are we thirst today?

I don't know, like, was there a reason that we're extra thirsty? Why would there be a reason? I know sometimes it's Thursday. No, it's terst. March the worst today. No, we are not. The worst with the you. Yeah, that's right.

It's the terst. Welcome to the terse. Turd. Welcome to the tursty turd. Welcome. If ever open a bar, it's going to be called the thirsty turd. Yummy. No, you guys know that if I ever open a bar, I have like the perfect name for it, right?

Okay. What is it? Barvellous. Like marvelous, but with a bee. And we're just going to, like, drink shooters and so go to each other's awesomeness. Oh, we are definitely going to listen to awesome music. Oh, well, of course. We're never not listening to awesome music, if not creating our own awesome music.

Stream toast by Claudia Ahtray. I do feel that, like, owning a bar as obviously, like, a stream of income is terrible because I think, like, the restaurant industry. But at, like, a certain level when you're just, like, opening things for fun, I do think it would be fun to have a bar that, like, I don't rely on financially. Yeah, that's a passion project. Correct. So that would be your passion?

Yeah. I actually discovered like another job that I could hold that I would excel at. I already just known this about myself. Well, you have always said teacher. Yeah, and I would be an amazing teacher and I feel like everyone here can agree. Yeah, I agree. To what age, students? Oh.

Elementary, middle. Younger. I don't need those like talking back kids. I agree. Because then, you know. So in middle school or? No, no, I think elementary school. I think I have the disposition of an elementary school teacher.

What's the other job? So yesterday I went shopping with. my friends. Oh, yeah. And the other job that I really would be amazing at is as a sales associate. Yes. And I do it for you all the time. You do. And yesterday I was doing it for my friends. Like a personal shopper. It was day two of like moms gone wild, college reunion weekend. We had like such a hard day. Day five, day two and final day of, yeah, college reunion weekend on a Monday. And we went to town. We went shopping. And it's so funny yesterday I was wearing my Hillhouse dress and I was like, I need to get more nap dresses.

I didn't realize there's a store in the Hamptons, and we just stumbled upon it organically. So I was like, oh, I want to get another dress. So we went in. And I convinced all of them to buy nap dresses. They were not there for nap dresses. Like, they were looking amazing. I literally, the salespeople didn't need to do anything.

Like, I was convincing each of them, like, why each dress was amazing for them. There was one that Rebecca tried on that was so gorgeous. But she's like, I have nowhere to wear this. I'm like, you have that wedding in South Carolina. This is perfect for welcome drinks. So I agree to an extent. the only issue with you becoming like a full-time sales associate is twofold.

One, you really are amazing at it for people you know personally. Okay. I think the lack of closeness to a random customer might affect your sales. Perhaps I would need to be tested, but like I did it. Every time we go shopping, I push you into buying so much stuff. You're always so exciting. You wear those things for years to come and you're so grateful. You do it great.

The only other thing is that like with a commission based job, like you do need this like aggressive energy. And I think that like the best sales associate, tow the line between like annoying and pushy. I don't know. I don't know if you have that like pushy annoyingness. No, I don't. But like, and usually I'm pretty shy.

But like if you've come into my store, I'm going to take that as a sign. Are you also the store owner here? No, no, no. But like you've walked into a store that you like. It's not like I have to get people on the street and say, come into my store. That I couldn't do. I couldn't man on the street. But you're in my store.

You're curious about what we have here. Let me show you around. We have some really nice things. And now I'm remembering, I did this for my friend Erica in Florida. She was like, I want to go shopping with you. and I didn't really know a lot about her style but like, oh my God, we slayed. We found a completely new style.

Yeah, I agree that that would be a good job for you. So if I'm like ever looking for employment, I think that's what I should do because it's really my strong suit. Me and my friends all got nap dresses and like Dana got a nap dress. So cute. Dana has a nap dress. Now I'm so excited of her.

It's really the perfect thing. It's easier than wearing shorts and a t-shirt. It is, it is. And it's like universally flattering. And I guess being an influencer, I am a little bit of a salesperson. Well, this is the big conversation about... Not on Nantucket, you're not.

About influencer culture. Of course, I was so self-conscious. I was taking pictures in the store, but I'm a Hillhouse partner, and I just felt like... I just want to say Hillhouse is like kind of a lead sponsor of this show, so you have nothing to worry about. They would never have like... And like, you work with the brand.

I work with the brand and I didn't get any other people on my content. Like, I would never do that. But I was definitely feeling self-conscious being an influencer in a store and, like, minding the way I behave. Like, unfortunately, like the message, because while we're having this conversation about influencers and their behavior, outside of their homes. Like, there's definitely a conversation to be had.

You're not really the problem. So, like, I'm glad that you're, like, making changes, but you weren't really the problem. I do feel that the people we're actually talking about, like, aren't listening. The people who do film others without their consent and do, like, make big ruckus in the middle of the tree. They're not swirley. That's not swirley behavior. No, they're not listening to Paige Lawrence either. No, no, because they're not dairy.

You know, I'm on dairy. They're not dairy. They're so on dairy. Lactose. So we just had, like, a wonderful day for mature women. That's what everything we were doing was like such a mature woman thing to do. Like even like nap dresses. It's just like a sign of maturity.

Absolutely. And we were so excited. And then we had a little like seaside lunch at the wharf. So cute. Bill Bucay. Like so fancy. We went to the bakery. We just like walked around.

We had such a great day. It's a new tradition that we're starting. Because it's hard for us to get together. Of course. Jobs and kids. And they come visit me like but usually like one at a time. So to be able to spend like two days really like uninitimate. like uninterrupted hours together was so special.

You know I love an installment. So yeah, make it a yearly installment. It's a yearly, because now I'm up, I'm like up north of the summer. And then it's like a real Netflix movie. Yeah. They're like, 28 summers. Like, where you have that weekend. Four seasons.

Yes, 28 summers. Except we're about like cheating on our weekends. That's romantic. No, it's like four seasons, the show you refuse to watch. But I know you would like. What do you think? I've watched it. You have? Yeah.

I watched it last summer. Oh, so it's like four seasons. But they take four trips a year, which is a lot for people who have like kids and there, a lot of them have grown. No, but they have like busy jobs The kids aren't so grown When we first started They were like in high school college-ish

But that's gross Like that's not toddlers No, it's just like four trips That's the most unrealistic part of the show It's like that these people can get together Four times a year And that means that every vacation that they go on Is with each other because who takes more than four trips a year

Right And they're like You know they're not all international Some of them are just like down to the Jersey Shore But still They went to the Jersey Shore I didn't watch season two yet But I did enjoy season one and I watched it

Yeah sorry okay so So the jacusory So you're like kind of four seasons. The jacusory, but you're just one season. We're ones. That will be the name of our book. One season.

That sounds beautiful. Set in a seaside town. Yeah. Four long lost sisters getting together once a year. And the fifth bonus Jonas. Oh yeah. I pop in and out like I come to a lunch. But I don't want to, you know, obviously like make it about myself.

I'm not a Colgate girl. But she's always invited. Of course, I came to lunch, but didn't come to dinner. Like, you know. Dinner was late and far and like I know. But also, and it wasn't my favorite restaurant, but like, that's like a hair too far. Like, I'm very much like a fringe character in this novel. You're so not.

I actually think you're like, you're actually. No, I'm very much. You know who would play you in the movie? Megan Fox. No, it's like the, actually, I don't think you'll like what I'm going to say. Because it's like, it's like the supporting character. Who? What ugly.

No, she's not ugly, but she's always playing like that supportive, like, funny friend. Like Melissa McCarthy. No. Who? It has nothing to do with looks. It was just like a feeling of like always being like the supportive funny friend. like Lake Bell. Okay.

Lake Bell. Don't you feel it? Yeah, that's so me. Lake Bell. She's like such a cool girl. Yeah. She comes in and makes everyone laugh. I know you're not going to like this comparison,

but it's actually like Jessa from girls. I genuinely got so scared because I was like, why did I start this conversation? Yeah, I mean, that's definitely a conversation you never want to start with me. It's like what character would play you or like what celebrity you remind me. I fucking hate that shit. But it was more so about the fact that like you are like the supporting.

I'm very cosmopolitan too. I just like sort of. of flow in and out of the group. Yeah, she comes in when will she be there. She's like everyone's favorite character, but she's not a main character. No, but then she obviously like ends up being a fan favorite and they make it like to start the show. She has to spin out.

That's so mean like Bell. Turty Bell. Lake Turk. So we'll see you this time next year. That's the name of the show, this time next year. Oh, that's cute. Well, has to be a book first. Okay.

We'll write it. Writer girl. I'll write it. So that was really fun. And everyone got nap dresses. I'm so excited. So cute. I was sort of like yearning to see The Odyssey last night.

So, well, obviously like. We are going to see the Odyssey. I know, I know. I was yearning to see it. So just to like sort of get my fix, I watched Twilight. Robert Pattinson's like probably second best work. I would say first. Actually watched the first two movies.

I guess the Odyssey. You don't know that. That's what streets are saying. They're saying it's his best performance of a life. No, like his best movie. Like he's in a Christmas. He's great, but he could sting. He could. He would never, my boyfriend. Um, and I feel like I have this realization, like, once every five years when I rewatched a Twilight Saga, but like, there's actually never been a better movie made ever. Yeah. A perfect casting. Like, I don't have one note. Except for Bella's wig. That's the second movie. It's the third. I skipped watching New Moon. Edwards not in it. Like, I don't need to watch it. And no, no, no, but we're talking about the first movie.

I talk about the franchise. I think the franchise is perfect. I have no notes for the franchise. I have no notes for the But yes, the first movie is an example of a perfect film. It's a perfect book adaptation, whether you see the... I have, seriously, not one criticism. Not that you read the book, but yeah. Not that I read the book. But you just know. It's like Harry Potter. I didn't read Harry Potter, but I know it's a perfect adaptation.

Exactly. Twilight is a perfect movie. Not my house, but I know my way around. Exactly. But you're right. Yes, the first one, like, I guess film critics could maybe find issue with two, three, four, five. No, no. With two, three.

Four or five are perfect. Four or five are perfect. three is good. Two, seriously, should have been cut from the series because, like, Edward goes missing for the whole movie. No, because plot-wise,

I see what you're saying, but no. And there was no offense, like, a little too much Jacob. But... That's hurtful to your friend. I know. It's like, actually, I was thinking about this last night.

You were struggling? I wasn't struggling, but, like, I was just sort of, like, watching Twilight out of glance and thinking about the fact like, yes, I am close personal friends with Taylor Lawner and Alice.

Yeah, that's right, Alice. But your team Edward Correct No of course And so is Taylor Lawner's wife Like I don't have any qualms about that Like that's very much Like his truth

And my truth and her truth Like congrats to everyone But just like being like such a diehard twi heart And then like kind of growing up And having two friends who were in Twilight I just feel like I don't talk about that enough When we added to my list of accomplishments Obviously like the bear is one of them

And I think having two friends from the Twilight franchise Is also another one Yeah Yeah There are more more accomplishments or more friends that are ever in twilight oh of course new york times best selling novel i don't want to say but i consider an accomplishment you consider an accomplishment what but i don't the mass singer oh no i would say that's a

accomplishment um i didn't like have the most amazing time through no fault of my own um but yeah that was an accomplishment like i sang on tv yeah yeah she's unznavable she's a polio with Apulsia. She's invincible. She wins every single day. Like new karaoke song for me unlocked. At least you got that. I have like five songs, but that one just went straight to the top.

At least you got that. And I know all the words. Like I don't even need the screen. Yeah. So today's Wednesday, we have stories. It's just kind of like a chill day because we're kind of like chill girls who drink beer and like sports. Yeah, I have a basketball in my sweater. Gakaba.

Is there any like basketball news that we should talk about? No, we talked to. about that actually a little bit there's some like i guess basketball adjacent news in the stories i'm sure there's like sports news because like an athlete made some news yesterday for proposing to madison beer yes you know what there's actually a lot of sports news now that i think about it i mean that makes sense like we drink so much beer and we like love to go to bars it's just like frustrating for us we love to go to bars because we're the biggest sports fans no it's true and it's like very frustrating for us to like go to these bars like not find a lot of females just because like we're

not like the other females um but we figure it out it's just like we like our we're just one of the guys, you know. Well, two of the guys. I am not one of the guys. Nobody on the planet has ever been less of a guy. Less of one of the guys than me. It's true. Yeah.

Yeah. So you just want to, like that's what makes us work because you're so one of the guys. Like opposites attract. We're so getting in. It's so true. I'm so one of the guys. You're so like guys. And I'm so girls girl. And like I feel like the guys really like hanging out with me because like I'm really just one of them.

And like we can like joke and stuff. And I'm not like other girls who are like, like, sensitive right you're so not sensitive yeah that's what all the guys always say about me like clodia she's like obviously like really really hot but she's also just like one of the guys and i'm just like i feel like a lot of girls like don't have a lot of guy friends like i do but um i don't know i grew up with a lot of brothers that's always what those bitches are saying like i have so many brothers growing up it's true yeah i guess that would like you know make you one of the guys i don't know like we have macaela who's literally the only girl in our family

she's never been less one of the guys. She's like so girly. Maybe when she grows up, she'll know how to hang around guys because like that's what she's done her whole life. Like I could see that makes sense. And they're like these days

she's like increasingly ignoring them and just like doing her own thing. But right. But like she knows how to move within like a male dominated field. She and I have that in common. I think we should dive in. So much to do,

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percent off your first service. Thank you, first service. You're welcome. First service. First story, Madison Beer is engaged to Justin Herbert after nearly one year of dating. Justin Herbert, who is the Los Angeles Chargers quarterback. If you're not like a guy's girl and didn't know that, he's a big deal. I just feel like if you're listening to this podcast, you grew up with brothers and

like you're like chill like us. So you obviously knew who Justin Herbert was. And he plays for the Chargers that are not charging on my iPad because they got to get an iPad instead of mine. is now engaged to Madison Beer, the pop star. Yeah, I love that as a culture, because people are, like, freaking out about this, more so than really anything Madison Beer has ever done career-wise.

And it's so interesting that, like, as a culture, maybe just like as a generation, because, like, we really grew up on all those movies where it was, like, the popular girl and the quarterback. Like, there is something so American and, like, beautiful about, like, a pretty popular girl and a quarterback. Like, you just love to see it. And that's why people, like, love Haley Steinfeld.

And, of course, Travis and Taylor, like, But Taylor's not actually, well, now she's popular beyond nature. But she still identifies as the nerd who takes off his glasses. She's not. And so I just think, like, Americans will always rally behind this. And, like, I was shocked at how many people cared about this and, like, why this was a big deal. Like, I bet you didn't know that Madison Beer has been on tour for a year. Like, nobody, like, she kind of, like, can't get arrested career-wise.

No, no, no. She is so talented. Like, her voice is insane. She's gorgeous. But, you know, people think, like, her beauty has been, like, a trap for her. Have you seen that theory? It's literally something. And the fact that, like, she never took off.

No, no, no, no. Like, she won't, like, do ugly things. Do you know what I mean? Like, everyone, like, everyone is beautiful who sings and is in Hollywood. And they, like, do interesting things with their look. And, like, she only ever wears, like, a body contrast and a blowout. And, like, loose waves. Yeah.

And, like, black highlighter. And, like, because she, like, doesn't, like, change it up because she sticks to just, like, being beautiful. they think that's, like, part of her artistic demise. So that's actually really interesting. And I think a good example of somebody who does that. And I think that's a good example of somebody who does that. And I think that.

they're really successful, but I do think it hinders them from, like, reaching a new level, is Dulapeep, do A Lipa. Like, she's also just like, so beautiful, sickening, and it's like, she doesn't open up, she doesn't share, she doesn't bleed out, she doesn't get ugly. Oh, that's a completely different. Are you talking about physical ugly or, like... Physical ugly?

Oh, it's like both. Like, you, yeah, I guess. You're making a good point that's not the point that I'm making. Okay. I'm saying, because, like, Madison Meier, she never cut her hair short. She never, you know, reached the eyebrow for a magazine shoot. Like, she just, like, we just,

she constantly looks like the pretty girl in high school, and there's no evolution. She literally is the pretty girl in high school. I understand. I don't want to be ugly either. No, and if I was like born looking like that, you're never going to catch me slumming it as an ugly person. Right, but there's just not like really been an evolution.

And like artistic. She was like Justin Bieber's protege. Like she kind of had like every making of being huge. And I mean, if you've ever heard the song Melodies by Madison Beer, like one of the first songs, I hear melodies in my head. Here melodies in my bed. Like so fucking good.

Yeah, she just like. musically, sonically, careerically, can't get anything off the ground. Meanwhile, I've seen more reactions to this engagement. He picked her up off the ground after he proposed. No, the pictures are seconding. She's wearing such a cute lace skirt. I don't know why this is like the thing that's going to...

Seriously, it's like everyone, everyone needs a thing, right? Right. She has now married out of the Kia Asylum. Yes. I didn't know that that was really an option, but she's definitely Kia Asylum material. Yeah. And I'm just shocked at like the reception to this.

I'm excited. but like I didn't know other people literally knew who she was. Yeah, no, people, people know who she is. Maybe she just referred to Madison Square Garden, but like no one's talking. In what capacity? On her tour. Yes, apparently I've been following on a TikTok. She's on this kind of cursed tour where every night there's like an issue, like a light or a microphone or a wardrobe.

And it just came to a culmination at Madison Square Garden, I believe the tour ended there. Got it. I'm glad the tour ended. I think, draggy quick, name one Madison Beer song. Um, Madison. Dot org. That's what I mean. Like,

no, I know. There's just something weird about her career. I know. She can't get arrested, even though she's talented and beautiful. And you would think like those two things. Plus,

like she's insane numbers on social. Like kids love her. And she had like some successful backing at a certain point. Yeah, she was considered. Like her launch on the scene was like, Justin Bieber found this girl. She's like the next thing. And she was a scooter brawn girl.

And then I do believe like they fell out badly. All of them. Yeah, there's obviously like that iconic video of her. You know, I was supposed to be in the video. I love her. Yeah, I do hope that they get married. Like, they need to get married. Oh, I think they will.

Because, like, this is a major step, but like we're still in the marathon. Yeah, of course. No, no, like the race to the altar starts now. She should get married and I think she should retire. From the pop girl scene. Yeah. And the pop, like the music has brought her to Justin. Yes.

It's kind of like Haley Steinfeld. Even though Haley Steinfeld's pop career, like, left us wanting so much more. Yeah, and she acts. She was just in Sinners, which was like this year's movie. But, like, I just feel like Madison Beer should be a kept woman. She's certainly, like, she's earned it. She's worked hard enough. She's earned it.

Yeah, no, I love this. And I love how excited people are for her. Like, that's what, like, the fans want. That's what the fans love to see. Yeah. Congrats. I hope they get married quickly. I am just like, well, they'll probably have to get married now in the next off season.

Yeah, and your engagement is. So, like, March. Yeah. March. The starting March. But they dated like less than a year. That's really good. You know,

I think that they like just celebrated their one year anniversary. And she locked it down. When you know, you know, the ring is enormous. I didn't see the ring. She also has really little fingers. So of course,

depth perception. But it's huge. I didn't see it. It kind of looks like tailors. Where do I see it? Like in the picture, I don't know. In her Instagram?

In her Instagram. Yeah. I'm going. Maybe I'll follow her. Maybe she'll do like nice bridal content. I think I do follow her. You know what I mean? She's just like kind of mysterious to me.

stick. She won't stick. Even though she has it all. She has 40 million dollars. That's what I mean. And she's very Gen Z. And it's like if you have got Gen Z, you've got it all. But she is so gorgeous.

Yes, she's really like kind of like otherworldly looking. The ring is huge. Huge. Huge. Wow. Okay. I love it. I love it.

Love it. She has like nice Instagram. You know, it's vibey. And obviously like any football player is great. But like to get one who's like on the L.A. A team like that's obviously of course you get to live in L.A. Right. And like stay being a celebrity.

Yeah. A lot of times like you have to move to like Houston and like that's just not going to work for Alex Earl. I'm wishing you a hearty mazzletoe. Extremely hardy. To quote a young turdy loo. I'm wishing you a hearty mazzletove. Oh, I was like when did I say that? Of course.

And the iconic bommets for performance. That like a 10 year old. A hearty mauseltov. A 10 year old Claudia in a message to her sisters wish them a hearty mausletoe. You know, part of being a 10-year-old at that time was, like, going to a million bat mitzvahs and, like, always being asked to, like, film a testimonial. Like, these days, we have these, like, aesthetic montages that get put together. But back in the day, there was a videographer walking around these affairs with a microphone, and he would just ask people to, like, leave a video message to the Sweet 16 girl or the Bat mitzvah girl. And so, yeah, like, I kind of was experienced at that point, and I knew exactly what to say.

And it was an HMT. And did you feel it? The hardiness of the mausletop. I did. And it permeates throughout the evening. It permeates through the video, like you can see. You can feel it. I think even people watching it 20 years later.

I knew that I really meant it. Could see and that the hardiness was received. A thousand percent. Are you ready for our next story? A little more model athlete news. Irene Shake and Devin Booker are newly dating and quote like each other a lot. So word on the street is that Arena and Devin are dating. The source tells People magazine Devin Booker and Arena are dating.

It's very new, but they like each other a lot. were introduced by mutual friends a few months ago and are trying to spend a lot of time together this summer before Devin has to start training for the season. Expect to see her at some games. She is very into him. Okay. He is 29 and she is 37, I believe. And how tall is he?

Tall. Yeah, I don't know why. I just get the vibe that she's taller than him. Oh, no. I get the vibe that he's really tall. Really? Isn't he a point guard, which is like is the shortest one? No, and he dated Kendall, who's super tall too.

so like he he meets the required minimum height 6-5. 6-5 is really tall. Yeah. Irene is shake. Oh, it's 5-10. Okay. Yeah, I'm like trying to care, right? And I'm trying to find an angle like why I would care about these two.

You know, the, I'm genuinely like out of loss. Okay. You know? I don't dislike it. Like, I don't have. I don't dislike it. it. I don't like like it. Do you know what I mean? I'm gonna shake. individually I don't care for either of them like so much.

Deeply. So there's nothing anything that they could do that like would change that I guess unless she was dating like. Then I guess like Devin Booker and Bradley Cooper are like co-parenting if all goes right. Yeah. With Gigi and I guess that's like her man her best friend's ex. Like yeah we can make it interesting. I guess but yeah I guess if Arina was dating Zach Ephron you know I might care. Yeah. I arena also. So for me, like, did irreparable damage to her reputation just in my mind when she was dating Tom Brady and she seemed really desperate. Yeah, we were talking about it too, like how it was just like through page checks, like,

the desperation like was coming through. Yeah, yeah. And I don't believe that it ever worked out between them. I don't know if they were ever actually even officially linked, but she was really leaning into it. And I just like sort of never looked at her the same after that. Yeah, that's sad because once you get like that smell of desperation on you, like you can't hard to wash off. You can't get it off. Yeah. So she doesn't

necessarily do it for me. But wishing her the best. I don't wish her ill. I would never wish another woman ill. I would just say like don't make cookies for his sister. That's what that's the relationship advice I would give you. No. That was Ben Simmons.

But I'm so glad you brought that up just because it serves as a reminder. I don't never bring a Ben Simmons sister. It serves as a reminder that Ben Simmons's sister once like genuinely made the most evil video of all time for no reason and anytime we talk about devon booker and the thing is you've told me like so many times and it just in one year out the other i still didn't retain it but i think it's a good thing yeah that that means that there's double there's double the amount of exposure for this story for the story like i just miss i miss that time like when when that story was being reported no that was insane that was insane do you want to remind

everyone just to like do our quarterly reminder yeah like devon booker's just Ben Simmons sister. Oh my God. If Devin Booker has a sister. And they're both NBA players. If Devin Booker has a sister, like, I'm genuinely sorry for slandering your name. She's definitely sorely. You don't deserve that.

She's definitely swirled. Ben's Simmons sister. Like one time, I don't know if she was being like a Q&A. She was like making content on Instagram and decided to like share a story about Kendall Jenner. And I think that the way she positioned it, we were about to like hear a story where Kendall Jenner was like embarrassing or rude or just like lame. And what she had said was that like Ben Simmons, sorry, Kendall Jenner like one

and baked cookies for her family or whatever. And when they were having a game night? And like that was it. No, and the way that she, and they were like the worst cookies and the way that she sliced them was weird. She was like leaning into like the cucumber. Right. Drama.

But all I heard was that like someone tried to make you a cookie. And you're like an ingrate. You're a nasty angry. The video like she was being such a bitch. Like the definition of a B-I-T-C-H. And like the wind up was that Kendall literally did nothing besides make you a cookie. Yeah. And you didn't like it.

And the way she told the story, she just like thought she had like such hot goss. She was like, and it was like not. No. And that's what you'll be remembered for. Mrs. Simmons Booker. And Kendall will be remembered for a lot more. Are you ready for our next story? More couple news.

Olivia Rodriguez and her new man's Julian Krooenberg's were spotted cuddling in the park in New York City. Yes, I saw. So these two are really off to the races. They were spotted kissing and holding hands and cuddling. and cuddling at the park. Yeah, I mean, we always, like, this is what we want for our girls, right? Like a businessman bow. Yeah.

I will say, like, it's a little boring, you know, like, consuming and, like, reading about, like, someone whom I don't know. No, it's, I think for me it's more so this. Like, of course, I worry about, like, the values disparity, but that's for them to worry about. For me, it's like, I feel like once you reach the top of the mountain and you've dated everyone, like that and when you're ready to settle down, like, that's when you hit up the businessman bow. but she just seems so young that it's like,

I just don't know if she's ready for that sort of stability. She is really young, although she has like seen and experienced a lot in a short period of time. And like when you know you know, yes, it does feel like the businessman is usually the final stop. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's like, is this it? And now we like sail off into stability? What about the music? What about the songs? Yeah. You know, they say that like, I guess we're like sort of waiting to see this with

Taylor because we've only gotten one album since she's been like settled down but like does the music suffer? So I refuse to believe that. Believe what? No, I didn't say I believe that I'm asking. You asked me and so I say I refuse. Yeah, me too. I think that like the life of a showgirl is not a great example of that. But it has nothing to do with her being happy.

Yeah, I don't think it has to do with like having a lack of things to write about or like losing your spark once you're single. It has to do with like getting caught up like in her own fame and excited and just like release some garbage. The marketing and the format. And we've been. Yeah. Yeah.

But like music about tortured artists and like complex fellas is more usually titillating than like a guy who works in finance. Like what's the next music going to be about like Google Docs? Like, you know. Yeah. But there are other things to write about, you know, as we set. Yes. Other layers to life. Books and movies.

Your own life. You could have a child. Yes. Yes. Of course. You could write about that. Stevie Wonder isn't she lovely? That's a beautiful song.

It is also interesting how you balance a relationship with somebody who does work a typical nine to five corporate job. You are restricted in the trips you can take, even though they just got back from like a big trip to Iceland. Maybe he can, has like a couple remote days. Or like remote days, maybe he has flex. Yeah, maybe he like rolled over his PTO from last year or something. Yeah, but PTO will run out.

Yeah, no. And you can't just like la-di-da. Yeah. Unless you like own the company, which as far as I know, he's like an analyst. Like a big one, but. Yeah. And I don't think like his bosses care that he's dating. Olivia Rodriguez.

Do you get special treatment at a company, like when you start dating a celebrity? I don't think so. Like, I don't think at his level you do. I wonder. I'm trying to think if I know anyone who's, like, maintained a corporate job and, like, gotten famous, like, while staying. There are a lot of times you just leave. But he's not going to leave his job because he has a girlfriend.

No, no, no. No. They are literally been dating for one week. Yeah, but they seem to be, like, hot and heave. Off to the races. That's short for heavy. Are you ready to do? for our next story, it's number four.

I'm like not, you know. You're not ready. No. You don't seem ready. No, I've got to fix my lipstick. Okay. You want so? No, I'll do my own thing.

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com slash toast, T-O-A-S-T. I'm sorry, I meant to tell you something. I'd like to update you in the world of namesake. I don't know if you saw yesterday. Miquela Ngarro finalized her divorce. Yes, she was, get ready with me for divorce court. And she just, like, didn't know if she was going to be granted the divorce today. She's like, if I'm not, like I'll literally call myself.

And she kind of left us all waiting. She went to court and then came out with a shirt that said officially divorced. And then she like went out drinking and chopping and drugging. And she bought honestly one of the most insane Van Cleef bracelets I've ever seen in my life. And then she also went to Cartier. She bought a ring. And then she had drinks and cocktails. And she must have spent like $100,000.

Like it was insane. And like what's the big deal with her divorce? So people don't really know because he is completely. completely offline. But they found like his secret Twitter account where he like tweeted about her twice and then made it private. But what we knew initially was that we knew that he was like in recovery from addiction, like what she talked about it a lot when when they were happily married. And then like a year went on like he was like kind of like MIA and and she ended up sharing like a year later that he had, you know, relapse. Sorry I couldn't remember the word. And it's just been like so hard for her. He's

been like in and out of like coming home and and and they had made it seem like maybe they were going to continue working. She didn't say anything about the state of the marriage. Just like that's what was going on and like why she's been like making these videos about how she's just like struggling. But she never told us with what. And then a couple of months later she announced she was getting divorced. And I don't believe they had a pre-up. And they didn't have children, which makes it like, I think a little bit shorter of a process because you don't have to deal with custody. I don't know why she thought she wouldn't get divorced. And I don't think he was like really trying to take anything from her as far as I know.

Right. Because she seemed pretty happy with the outcome. And also, like, wouldn't she tell everyone if he was because, like, they don't have kids together and she shares a lot. So it's like, yeah. No, and I think also, he's a slime ball. If you, like, get divorced and, like, he takes you for, you know, for financially for, I don't think you leave divorce court and buy a Van Caliph bracelet.

You know what I mean? Right. So that's why it's like, even though I saw her divorce was finalized, that just doesn't feel like major news. Like, without kids, it's like, so you got divorced. Like, it's just, like, official. Like, she's free of him. And I guess she can get married.

has a new man. Yeah, I think maybe now she can get married. I wasn't worried about what happened next. Yeah. For her. But I'm happy for her. Me too. I always will support her in all of her endeavors, including her divorces.

Including her divorces. Hopefully this is just the one. Yeah, hopefully it's the one. Our next story is some box office news. The Odyssey is taking over the world. Oh, I thought you're going to say it's tanking. No. The Odyssey is going to pass Oppenheimer's lifetime box office in 13 days.

So it took Oppenheimer 595. days to final at just over $330 million. And it's taking The Odyssey just 13 days to outpace that. Wow. And Oppenheimer was like such a big deal. Yeah, it was Barmanheimer. Yeah. I mean, it does help that there's like no other movies.

Actually, Spider-Man like is. Spider-Man. Yeah, that's like the big movie right now. With Tom and Zadaya, who are also both in The Odyssey. Got it. Yeah, it's kind of like a big week for them. Got it. Well, yeah, no, everyone's talking about the Odyssey.

We're going to see it. We are going to see it because we just found out that there's an IMAX theater in the Hampton. So, like, we will go. And we're excited. And I've heard really good things. Yes. I think at the end of the day, like if it's good, it's good.

And I've heard that it's very good. Although I saw that the woman who translated, who's like responsible for the modern translation of the Odyssey, she's like reading it to Phil. She thinks it's bad. I don't know her. I imagine she's like super smart if she was tasked with a modern translation. But it's like, I'm not taking her word for it. And I'm sure she's very close to the text.

And I'm sure really like anything that was done. She wouldn't have like. Yeah, because nothing's perfect. But like for just like lay people like us, if it's, you know, the Odyssey, great. Tell them question. What are they translating it from? Greek.

Greek. Yeah? I think Latin. But isn't it about like Greek gods? Like I don't even know. It isn't Latin like the language. I'm scared to see the Odyssey because I don't think that I'm going to understand anything. And like when I don't understand something like I just start hating it and then I'm just going to be like a hater and I'm just like a hater.

I'm just like afraid that I'm genuinely not like intellectually smart enough for it. It's made for the masses proven by the fact that the masses are going to see it. And that's not a takeaway people are having. So I think you need to have some more belief in yourself. I don't like this negative self-talk. What kind of snacks are we going to get? I'm like so excited for popcorn. Oh, I need popcorn like with a little bit of like chocolatey, like sprinkled throughout the popcorn.

And like the biggest soda you've ever seen in your whole life. I can't drink soda anymore. I went so long without drinking it, Diet Coke, then now it tastes weird to me. I've never experienced that. I know. And I like went really like. So never quit. I went really like.

I couldn't quit. Like, but I did now that I drink so much soda that I'm shocked to the fact that I actually cut back a lot when I was pregnant. not in the first trimester, like I was just trying to survive, but second and third, I maxed to like three or four a week, which, like, I was having three or four a day. I'm so proud of myself that just proves, like, how much I, like, love my family because that's insane.

I can't imagine ever doing that again. No, I know. No, I went cold turkey, and now, like, it used to be, like, when I would go out to dinner, like, instead of ordering, like, a cocktail, like, I got a soda. And now I'm like, yuck. Oh, my God, no, it's seriously so delicious. I can only drink Sparkle Megan water. It's seriously so delicious.

Like, I know. I'm actually, like, not happy about it. Yeah. Well, why don't you try like a Pepsi or like retaining myself like exposure therapy? Your husband love soda. Like you have so many sodas in your house. All I have is fucking soda. Yeah.

I should kind of need to figure it out. Exposure therapy. But the thing is like it's a good thing. Like technically yes, but it's not. So that's like what I'm dealing with. Yeah. That's big actually. You drink Sparkle Water and Ice Tea.

You know I love an ice tea. Your husband drinks diet right. And that's because he grew up in Texas. But like what the hell is that? I know. Like that's insane. He's like stopped doing that around us though. Really?

I saw it in your fridge the other day. In our fridge here? No, no, no, no, no. So, like, around the family. He knows that to buy diet right in the Hamptons. So when he's with us, he drinks. His green tea. Dr. Pepper.

And he loves, um, Snapple. And someone's buying all these frescas. Someone is buying fresca. I like fresca, but I haven't been buying them. I don't drink fresca. You know what I these days. I just drink diet. Pepsi.

That's true. And it's true. I'm not just like being like, I, at one point in time, like, was heavily sponsored by Pepsi. And I still wasn't lying. And I drink Sparkle Water. of course. I drink Sparkle Water too. Water. I do not drink regular water. Never have, never will.

So anyway, so I'm really excited to see what everyone's talking about. And it's major that they're, like, doing so well in the movies when movies don't really do so well. And they're doing so well at the movies. And people are, like, going out of their way to, like, see 4D-I-Max, like, theaters. Really an event. Yeah, it's an event. It's an event. What are we going to wear? I need to be, like, really cozy because it's, like, a long movie.

We're not, we're never not cozy. No, but, like, I don't want to wear, like, pants too tight. We stay cozy. We stay cozy. Yeah. Yeah. Our fifth story, but we also have a bonus story. But our fifth story is a little update on like Nantucket Influencer Gate because Dave Portnoy

has weighed in. On T by the C. On T by the C. I scroll past it this morning. I just like wasn't in the mood for his energy. It was hard because he like had mouse surgery. So he was like talking funny and so you really had to have patience. But he is like the king of Nantucket.

I actually just searched like Dave Portnoy and Nantucket to like get a roundup of the of what he said. And I saw that when he bought his Nantucket house in 23. It was the highest price ever bought on Nantucket. Yeah, I think they've surpassed since then. Of course. Yes, it was a really big deal. When he bought it.

But like, so King of Nantucket. Because he's like New England King. Yeah. Boston. Boston, yeah. I would also say like King of Influencing. I actually wouldn't say that, but I would say like big commentator on influencer culture. Big influencer.

I would love to. I'm sorry, he's a big hitter. This is a person whose opinion like I wouldn't mind hearing. He's a big hitter in the world of influencing. Agreed. Knows all the influencers. employs all the influencers. Right. Knows the players.

His take was this. He didn't really have a problem with the no influencer sign. He said it is not about the page Lorenz as of today. Then, of course, he had to throw shade at, you know, her past. What's her past? I guess he's like maybe like 10 years ago and she's running around cleat chasing, blah, blah, blah. But he was like, yeah, but he was like. Cleet chasing.

I feel like Tommy was the first athlete she dated, like, Slay of the Century. I'm sure she like hates this time in her life. But like she's like one of the only people to ever publicly date Morgan Wallen. and I'm sorry, that is like really crazy. Right. So he was like the page today, like a wholesome dairy boy. So what she's not allowed to grow? No, no, no.

He was like, that's not who they're talking about. Like this page, business owner, whatever. He was like, but influencers like Mike something. I think that guy is handles like, it's Big Mike. Is that? Logan Paul's friend. Right, right. He's like, we don't want people like that.

We don't want Brianna chicken fry. He was like, we don't want the party influencers. He's like, go to the Hampton. Like don't come here to go out. Like we're in bed by 9 o'clock. Maybe taking the chicken box in shorts and a t-shirt. There's like one bar on Nantucket. He's like, the no influencer sign is about that kind of like party influencer.

We don't want party influencers. But that's actually not true. That's not what the people said. While he is making a point about the fact that party people shouldn't go to Nantucket, like that's a fine point to make, that the sign didn't say no. And it's not a party store. And I'm sorry. It's not a bar.

When the owners clarified what they meant, like that's actually not at all what they said. I think people on Nantucket. do feel that way. Like when rebel rousers come and like stay up, play, play music, yeah, they don't want that. That's a separate conversation. That's not what these people meant at all. That's actually a bad take. He's sort of like just giving his own opinion on influencers on Nantucket. And I don't know why he said

no, chicken fry. Like, doesn't she work for him? She does, but I think he comes. He's right. She commented, what the fuck? No, but like he said... In the context of his argument, like, yeah, she's the perfect example. Like, all the content is like staying out all night, vaping. She just had a whole scandal because she was having a high noon in a car while driving. Like,

yeah, that's not who they want on Nantucketet Yeah, but it's just funny, he threw an email. He threw out the Bichelder's, because I guess, like, Haley. Well, the Bichelder's are Nantucket. He says they're grandfathered in because they grow up. Their grandfather, yeah. They go there. But other than that, like, and he said the ilk of these people is not who they want.

Yeah, but that's like just a separate irrelevant point. That's irrelevant to, like, what we're talking about. Because this has nothing to do with what the sign meant. And the people clarified what they meant by the sign, and that's not at all what they said. Yeah. Sounds like Dave doesn't want party people coming to Nantucketton. No, he doesn't want part of people. I would agree.

It's like a small fishing town. Yeah. I get it. Like quiet, quaint. They want to keep it that way. I agree. And I don't think it's like influencers. There are people who party a lot who are also not influencers.

And that's what Paige was saying. It's like there are a lot of like finance bros who come and like crash boats. The cut did an article on it. And she gave them like a bigger statement. She just kept like stating facts. She was like there are a lot of like finance bros who come and like cause a lot of ruckus and crush their boats and like literally hurt people and drive drunk. And we're not saying no.

finance, bro. So it's like just judging a group of people based on their job. And then also the owners of the store also gave statements. They were like fighting through the journalist. She just keeps, I'm sorry, everything she says, I couldn't agree with more. Because every point that everyone makes when they try and follow up what they meant by the sign is a totally fine point, but that's not what the sign said. Correct. No, we're all having good conversations about. The sign didn't say no hard partying influencers who are going to stream it and encourage other revelers to come. You know what would have been funny if they said no ring lights. Yes, because That's a disruptive part of influencer culture.

But just banning the entire group of people. And people do not agree with us on this. Like I've seen a lot of discourse in our comments section and that's fine. How do you think that makes me feel, you guys? Like seriously, I'm such like, I'm, I'm never hard. Like, not an influencer. I am Claudia. You barely post Instagram.

What do you mean? Look, I have a huge stories right now. Right now for like the first time in six months. Every other, every couple days I show up. No, I have, I'm an influencer. You're not. You're a podcaster. I'm an influencer.

How can you say this to me? Oh, do you want to be an influencer? I have no... Like, I know everyone who's an influencer. They're like... Well, I don't like the word. I hate that. I guess that's what it is.

Yeah. I'm a proud influencer. I wouldn't really... It's a dream to be an influencer. I agree, but I would not categorize you as an influencer. You guys sound off... I think you might be too close to it. No, but like, how do you earn your living?

I have multiple buckets. But, like, how do you earn your living? I have multiple buckets. What's your biggest bucket? My biggest bucket is a podcast. You're a podcaster. But, like, I am also an influencer. Are you an influencer?

Yes. How do you earn your living? My podcast. You're a podcaster. Yeah, but I guess like, no, actually, I barely post on Instagram these days. Like, just because you're not posting right now doesn't mean you're not an influencer. I guess. I guess.

I think we're too close to it, but I think like zoom out, like we're an influencer. And I'm not someone who thinks anything negative about that word. So if someone calls me an influencer, like I'm like, sweet. Yeah, right. No, me neither. And the fact that like now it has a negative connotation, I'm sorry. is deeply rooted in misogyny. And Dave, like, really not understanding this conversation at all.

It's completely fine. He has no idea. Like, what he's talking about is completely irrelevant. I think he was also, like, getting mouth surgery and missed some of it. Yeah, and he just, like, wanted to talk about Nantucket because, like, it does involve him. Yeah. But, like, he doesn't really understand. Like, people think, like, it is that serious.

People are, like, paycheck, why you get it. And she will not fucking let this go. And it's like, it's not like the bar had a sign no influencer. So that, like, influencer partying. Right. It's a basket shop. It's a basket shop. No, I'm sorry.

Like, it is that serious. And I'm with Paige. Like, I agree with everything she said. Because it's like, I know you don't think I'm an influencer. But for the sake of this conversation, I'm an influencer. You are on Nantucket. And I'm, and I love to shop. And I'm so sad if you walk in there.

And I take shopping seriously. And I'm not a harm to society. And I walk into a store and it's had no influencers. Let's say I was going to buy something. And I'm not filming or anything. I'm just like purchasing stuff because if I'm an influencer, I'm also like a person. And I'm buying stuff. And I saw that sign.

Wait. If I'm an influencer, I'm also a person. I'm also a person. But if I saw that sign, I would walk right out. I would not support financially. It is. That's what I'm saying. And then speaking of comments, I did want to say, like, apparently people do have YouTube

premium in a major way. I had no idea. And they're like, how do you think we watch the toast? I just want to say. I want to say something to that too because people are like, well, how do you think we watch a toast? Like ad free. Even if you didn't have YouTube premium, you would watch the toast ad free because we do not monetize our YouTube videos because we respect our sponsors.

We do not have ads on our YouTube videos. So if you were using YouTube premium for just us to be ad free, are already ad-free. That's why when we play music sometimes, we get, like, demot. We didn't get, we, they start, like. They put ads on us because, like, they can. Yeah.

That's why we don't play music because it's actually just harmful to you guys. But you might have YouTube pre-bm for, like, other videos and podcasts without ads. But just, no, it's, like, not us. It's not us. We do not. We turn ads off on every single video. We do not generate revenue on YouTube, which some people would probably think is silly, but it's disrespectful to our sponsors.

And our viewers. Yeah. You're welcome. We don't double me. I just feel. I just feel like we don't make a big amount. And we don't get enough credit for that. We don't make a big enough deal about it.

Agreed. So that's what's going on in Nantucket. It's a scary time to be an influencer on Nantucket. I'll say that. It's a witch hunt. They're burning all the witches even if you aren't one. So light me up. Light me up.

Light me up. Go ahead and light me. There's a Taylor Swift song for everything. Like that's insane. Mm-hmm. Our bonus story is a headline from page six that I just thought you would want to hear about. And it's like a Nicolandria bonus because I'm not going to put them in the fast five again. And like we weren't able to rage bait.

Right. But page six reports that Alandra Carthin perfects her revenge dress in a slit up to their orange gown after her breakup with Nick. So Alandria posted, she still hasn't like spoken about the breakup, but she posted a carousel of her in an orange dress saying pressure makes diamonds. and page six is saying it's a revenge dress. It didn't occur to me, like, because it's a fake relationship. Like, that there would be any bad blood. And that there would be any sort of, like, residual breakup feelings where, like, these pictures aren't for Nick.

No. They're just pictures. Like, they're just pictures. Like, there's no revenge. Bless you. Like, her old co-worker, like, she doesn't need revenge on her old co-worker. I will never stop. And it's crazy that like writers have to like write up their activity.

And they pretend. Like it's a normal relationship. Like it's a normal relationship. Right. Because like she just posted a series of pictures in an outfit which she does all the time. Literally it's her job. She still hasn't spoken about the breakup or anything. So like you guys are reading into this and there's nothing to see.

Revenge dress. Maybe it's like revenge on us. like to the truth tellers and the and the doubters and the poking holes in the story errs errs yeah maybe she's getting revenge on us she looks amazing that's a good captioned pressure creates diamonds like if she was actually like going through like a real breakup or like oh you think so like that would be a good mantra yeah i guess so it's very much like phoenix rising from the ashes i think it's just like generic instagram caption you know you think it was like written by chat i kind of like sort of you know just like what's a quip.

Right. Anyway, so that's what Landra's up to. She actually hasn't spoken on the slit yet, which for people who do believe in Nicolandria. They must be just chomping at the bit. Yeah. That's not cool. No, it's not.

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