The Toast - The Perfect Couple: Monday, September 9th, 2024

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. That feels very straight up. You know, it feels very honest and direct. Like, it's Monday. It's fair. It's a fair Monday. We earned it.

Had a nice weekend. Oh my God, booked and busy. And this is technically like the first full week of the latter quarter of the year. Oh, okay, latter quarter. I know that it's fall for a multitude of reasons. One, you know, it's that type of weather where you walk to work and you first step out. You're like, oh, it's gorgeous, it's gorgeous. And then you, by the time you get there, you got like a little sweat under your armpits, like a little chilly.

My control top tights are also peeking through my shorts. Like, it's giving fall. It is giving fall. I've recently purchased tights without control top, which is seriously like, you know, putting a man on the moon without an astronaut's uniform. Like it's so crazy. But seriously, I'm sick of my control top peeking out. It's so embarrassing.

No, and tights without control top have merit too. They are worthy. They matter too. Like, of course we need control top most of the time, but like sometimes you actually need more of the tight than the control. You might be wearing like a baggy short dress, hence no we need control top most of the time, but like sometimes you actually need more of the tight than the control. You might be wearing like a baggy short dress, hence no need for control top.

Listen, you're speaking my language and I just bought more tights today without control top. It feels so wrong, but it looks so right. Yeah, no, I completely support you in that. And also here, Sarah Blakely, instead of making those ugly shoes, do this. Why don't people make tights that are control top but they don't have shorts they just have top you know like the belly part that's

good too that's good too belly needs holding in the thighs don't right now yeah or they do but I'm gonna sacrifice skip over that one yeah I think that's a great idea turtle Lou we have so much to do today, okay? We do. We have to recap our weekends, which were chock full of goodness. We also, even though I was so busy, I watched so much TV. Me too. Finished The Perfect Couple.

Did you? Same. Oh my God, I have so many mean thoughts that I absolutely have to share. And I just want to say, none of them have to do with Megan Fahey or Liev Schreiber. Of course. What I share in my TV recap at the end of the show is not a reflection on them. I love both of them very dearly. Yes, but the show needs to be dragged to filth

considering how much we hyped it up. Like I actually feel like it's our duty to discuss the downfalls of that show. And I started Hulu, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. As did I. I only watched one episode so far. Ben coming in and he was like oh what is this like such a complainer. He was obsessed. He was like I'm gonna go walk Romy. I'm

like okay bye. And then spoiler alert at the end of the first episode where like the police body camera footage. He comes back he's like will you pause it. He's obsessed. That is so funny. I watched two episodes. I have so many thoughts and I have so many questions and I feel like you'll be able to answer some of them. Okay so we'll get into that in the TV recap but how was your weekend Jax? My weekend was great. I mean I feel like we should start with your weekend because you're kind of the face of fashion week. Kind of yeah. How scary for fashion week. Show, club, another bus, another show, another outfit. Yeah. You didn't tell us. I feel like as a toaster, like I feel like you didn't tell us that you were so booked and busy for fashion week. Like you said you had like one thing.

Okay. It's only been like four events and I really. It's giving multiple things. It's giving multiple things. So many things happen to align with my schedule. Like I don't really do stuff on the weekdays, like in, in normal times, like my weekdays are for really recovering. I sleep so much during the week and I sleep so much during the week and I work so much during the week like I really don't like to do stuff but there were so many fun things going on this weekend that I was like why the fuck not and so many of the brands like wanted to dress turds so I'm like okay I'll go like you didn't tell us they were dressing you you didn't tell us you were going to fashion shows front row also I don't like to brag I don't like

to brag as a passive consumer I'm like following some of my fave fashion girls in addition to you and I'm just like seeing my sisters like I saw I saw Margo in like someone else's carousel I see you in the back of an uber with the swirlies I'm like how do I not know that these are the things my sisters are doing so I think because we spent the entire summer out of the city it's making me like so excited for fall in the city and everyone's here it's like the best time in New York right now. Like everyone's here for fashion week. And so like all the restaurants that I usually go to, all the places I usually go to are even more fun. So I was like, oh fuck yeah, I'm going out this weekend. Everyone was out and about. And I was

right. Like I had a fucking blast. Yeah. I just, I felt like that's a jump scare. Like when you see your sister on your feed and not your sister's profile. Of course, of course, of course. I'm sorry that you had to go through that. Let's just, really sorry it goes for Margo too but I honestly expect it for Margo I feel like I'm we're so up each other's butts like how did I not know that Turt was gonna be everywhere all at once yeah it was fun to watch well I had such a great weekend I feel like my weekend was sort of like centered around Pookie and Jet right so I'm like was at an event on Friday and I saw Pookie and Jet and I seriously was I'm like, was at an event on Friday and I saw Pookie and Jet and I seriously was like,

I have to meet them. And I know that she's like a toaster and she like was way before she like blew up. So she would like, you know, real recognizes real. What I wasn't expecting

was to be so dazzled by Jet. And Jet is like an OG girl with no job, boy with no job fan. Like he was so excited to meet us. He's a memester. We were so excited to meet him. It was was so everything and it was just like a perfect meet and I got Pookie's number and then she was like by the way we have like dinner reservations

we have two extra seats do you and Ben want to join and I felt like I had been asked to the prom by the coolest girl you know at school I was giddy I'm like Ben I had plans and shout out to Taylor Schrecker for being so real I was like like, Taylor, I can't. Like, I have this. And she was like, of course, of course. She's so real for that. And we went out to dinner with them on Saturday night. And we had literally the best time. It was like a four-hour dinner.

Oh, my God. I was laughing so much like that. And Jet, he's hysterical. Like, you don't. I believe it. No, no. He's so funny. And him and Ben are so similar.

Like, they're both obsessed with food, obsessed with travel, like real cosmopolitan men. He's like Southern Ben. He is non-Jewish Ben. Yeah. Like if Ben wasn't Jewish. Ben from the South. Yep. Thousand percent.

And she is so delightful and beautiful and stylish and pregnant. So we were talking a lot about that. It was just like kind of a perfect double date. Like we left the restaurant at like past midnight. Obsessed. Look at you. That's really, really fun. And you know me, when I go out to dinner, if it's not like with my family, I'm counting

down the minutes. I'm like, get me out of here. It's not the Irish exit. It's the turdies exit. The Irish stole it from her. No. And I always feel like meals are like 45 minutes too long. Like there comes a time where I'm like.

Just like you feel about movies. Yes. I'm like, we should have been out of here 45 minutes ago. I was so sad to be leaving the restaurant with the Pooksters and Jet. Damn, that's really fun. And her name is Campbell. And I feel like I want to call her by her real name. Because I feel like her friends call her Campbell.

So if you're calling her Pookie, it's like you're clearly just like an internet observer. But if you're a friend, it's Campbell. No, and I feel as though people know them from the internet and maybe wonder what they're like in person. And I can tell you firsthand, like they're exactly the same and exactly wonder what they're like in person and I can tell you firsthand like they're exactly the same and exactly what you would expect them to be she's like very elegant he is like so like from a different time period and it's just amazing to see them and they love each other so much it's amazing it's always so nice to hear yeah and then

the restaurant we were at Polo Bar poppin you know that's what I'm saying it's the best time to be in the city I thought for sure I was going to see Taylor and Travis because they were, like, spotted out a few hours before. And Polo Bar is, like, you know, such a hot spot. No, she wasn't there. Yeah, they were getting busy in the city as well. Plus Fashion Week, plus U.S. Open. It's just, like, it was a big week in the city.

It was a big week in the city, and it's just fabulous. I saw so many celebrities this weekend, everywhere. That's really fun. any highlights standouts you know who I met Patrick Schwarzenegger and his he's engaged to a model she's like a super model and he's obviously like so handsome Nepo King and he they have just been announced as the faces of Tommy Hilfiger. And I get this like making a lot of waves in the fashion world. And they were with someone that I knew. And so I obviously am like a loser and went over and said hi.

And they were so cool and so nice, like asking so much about our podcast. They were like, we love podcasts. I was like, you do? I'm like, listen to the toast. That was a highlight. Like very cool. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, very cool.

Just kind of, you know, rubbing elbows with the New York elite. You are the New York elite. They were rubbing elbows with you. You said it. You said it. And then I had like a big family simcha. Sorry, last night. Ben's sister got engaged like a couple of weeks ago.

So we had the l'chaim yesterday. So fun. So nice. I had all the buckets. I had family time. I had a lot of bed rotting time because I was able to watch a perfect couple in full and then I had a lot of fabulous moments as well that's great when all your buckets are filled exactly it was a bucket filling weekend which bucket did you feel the most oh I feel the family bucket the most as you would expect Mary similarly had a similar experience here um We actually have a major update.

I don't even know if I told you this, but like a major update in my life. About the air conditioning? No. Okay, like serious? Actually something I think you'll be even more interested in. And I feel like other people, it has to do with the boys.

The loves of my life. You're moving back to New York and they're going to live with me and you and Zach are going to live far, far away. And we'll still remote podcast, my favorite. But they're gonna live with me and you and Zach are gonna live far far away and we'll still remote podcast my favorite but your children will live with me is that it no close um we are weaning off pacifiers oh my god okay let me say this is a major update I don't know if I've even shared this I don't think that I have but like Harry is the passy king you've never seen a child like more have more Patsies be more into Patsies like Patsies 24-7 it's never something

that bothered me and like it still doesn't bother me I don't know I just like woke up the other day I feel like Charlie always took a Patsy but wasn't as like obsessed obsessed as Harry but he's becoming more obsessed so I was like maybe it's time to take them away so Saturday was day one oh my god did you go cold turkey no it's only for sleeping okay oh you get the patsy in the crib you get the patsy in the crib and they stay in the crib and during the day no patsy I sent you that tiktok hack they say if you like take a push pin and put it in the like silicone part that they suck it removes the air and it's there's no longer any like like that oral fixation where you're like yeah that's removed I maybe I'll do that when I'm trying to quit crib passy but right now if I did that he'd just be like I don't like this one give

me a new one wench so we did cold turkey during the day and it's going like totally fine they asked like he asked for it sometimes yeah and I just like say oh well it's going like totally fine. They ask like he asked for it sometimes. Yeah. And I just like say, oh, well, it's for sleepy time. Like, do you want to go to sleep? And he's like, I don't know. I just like distract him so it can be done. And it's really not been so crazy. But it's been amazing. Like if you knew, I probably have like 50 past season.

Like everything is pasties everywhere. I found pasties in my apartment. I found pasties in the stuff that I packed. Like pasties everywhere. And there's obviously nothing wrong with pasties. But your kids are so like cute. I'm'm like get that thing out of your mouth I want to see your whole face and then of course you want to hear them talk but for me I took a pasty as a child for a long time so that's why it's and I'm like oh look at me I'm fantastic so it's never

been something that bothered me also I feel like I prefer pasty over thumb sucking or finger sucking because like I think you can clean the past. Yeah. But it just felt like time, especially as like Charlie was only getting more into them. I'm like, it's only going to make it harder. Like now's the time. Damn. Boys are going through rehab,

through withdrawals. I tell them my love. But it's, it's going okay. So if you've been like putting it off the daytime, nighttime distinction, like so far so good. And like,

okay. So let's say it never gets any better than this. Like they just suck on patsies till they're old and gray. Like, okay, no one could see them in their beds. Yeah, like people wear like that whole contraption on their face. Well, yeah, they do that because they have a disease and they could die in their sleep if they don't. But similar, yeah.

Yeah, or like a night guard. Everyone's got their thing. Do you see these grown ass adults with their ratty ass blankies that don't get washed and they're literally disgusting? And you know what? I've like had to diatribe about this for a while because I see people on social media like sharing theirs. adults with their ratty ass blankies that don't get washed and they're literally disgusting and you know what I've like had to diatribe about this for a while because I see people on social media like sharing theirs and I know that it's like a topic like I'm gonna get canceled for people are like you are mean but I just want to say some of the things that you guys sleep with

not me I don't do this I see people with their blankies it's serious if your blankie is being held together by threads like throw it away it's time I can't believe you even have to say that oh no no Jackie like emotional support you told me about you told me about this a while ago I I Jackie it's literally it's strings like someone will pull out this dirty brown thing it's literally just like five strings and someone's like what is that you're like it's my baby blanket what yeah yeah sick sick culture yeah so that's a huge I'm really proud of you yeah it's that was a big milestone event other than that not as good as you dropping the kids off and moving to Iceland but that's fine other than that cooking bacon play in the usual everything yeah but it was a

really fun weekend and I'll keep you guys posted it's no it's really like a huge maybe we should all do it together but also like no pressure I didn't like when people were like pressuring me like when are you gonna get like I don't know yeah no I definitely asked you were a little bit like being that way but just know about that the patsies got in the way of my affection like I couldn't give them as many kisses because they were always sucking on those fucking patsies like I didn't like and I also like I need the I need the whole face you know I don't want the half the face covered with this plastic thing like get it out so I can look at you yeah no it is nice also we call them patsies if you hear me saying that

like p-a-t-s-y patsy clyde patsy clyde yeah that's the vibe so that's what's new with me everything else that's new with me was tv that i watched this weekend and like so many thoughts and feelings that i had so i'm really excited to get into the show to recap it me too and also the fast five stories yep we must discuss as well that was like the rest of the weekend we must discuss so without further ado yeah it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know and the fast five stories that you need to know are brought to you by DraftKings Sportsbook. If you've ever wanted to bet on sports and felt intimidated, we totally get it. How do you get started?

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If you stand outside, you'll see someone. Everyone records Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift. And the owner of it got married. And that's, I guess he got married at the studio. I don't know what it looks like inside. But how do you have a wedding in a recording studio? No, it's definitely a good question. Okay.

Maybe there's like a rec room. Especially a large wedding. I don't know. But Taylor was there. So was Carla Kloss. Yes, I saw. Lana Del Rey. Like lots of people who record there and not shocking

how many people can fit at a wedding in a recording studio i need visuals on the inside like is there a rec room attached like i i don't get it i don't get it either but very exciting that they went to a wedding together this is the first wedding that they've gone to yeah margaret qualey and jack antonoff was just her right yeah yeah yeah. She went with Channing Tatum and Zoe. Thank you. Oh my God, I just had an actual stroke. Yeah. So that's always like good for a relationship to go to a wedding.

One, it's a major milestone, but two, it definitely gets you thinking about some things. It's sort of like the elephant in the room. Yeah. Who's next? Maybe us. Soon by you. Soon by you. That's what old Jewish us. Soon by you. Soon by you. That's what old Jewish ladies say at the wedding.

Soon by you. She looked darling. She was wearing a Zimmerman dress. She looked darling. She's kind of been killing the outfits in New York this week. I love what she wore to the U.S. Open. Like a red gingham dress. Like so sporty.

It was Reformation. She's so regular degular. She's like two for two off the rack. But then she wore Gucci to dinner with the Mahomes's but it was a very Gucci evening for them because Travis and Brittany were like head to toe Gucci Taylor was wearing a Gucci bag at the US Open and then at dinner that night like she wore a whole Gucci fit well also them a big story a big part of this story is they were in the same box at the U.S. Open as the Mahomes is and I think a lot of people and I thought I didn't think it at

the time and now I don't think it even more but that her and Britney didn't sit together at the Chiefs game um on Thursday and a lot of people were like that was Taylor distancing herself from Britney because I guess Britney Mahomes over the week like on social media like announced that she's voting for Trump or something I don't know she likes to post she liked it she got like backlash yeah and then she didn't apologize she posted like a snarky meme instead and so I think people were like Tree Payne and Taylor are keeping her away from Brittany like and I actually think Travis just had his own box for his family the first game it's like a big thing he was with his parents and then like literally right after the game they all flew

to New York together so like I don't think there's bad blood um and yes the Gucci looked like a sponsorship like I was actually thinking before last night her weekend she was wearing like all these Louis Vuitton bags and I thought she was like I was looking like maybe she'll be the new face of Louis Vuitton and now it's all Gucci no you know what I would love Gucci bag Gucci bag Gucci bag Gucci did that um campaign with Kendall and Bad Bunny where they were like running through the airport wearing all Gucci and I think they did it with like other couples too that would be really cute if they became like the face of a brand that'd be crazy although I don't think there's a brand that can seriously pay Taylor Swift what she's worth she's like literally too famous yeah unless it's like Apple like they would

never yes because they would never make like Obama like she's like Amazon she's as famous as Obama like would they ever make Obama the face like you couldn't pay him enough yeah do you know what I mean yeah like there's no marketing budget big enough for Taylor Swift unless except for the trillion dollar companies Amazon Apple Tesla Alibaba Alibaba Timu Timu Timu and yeah yeah and then also we need to talk about Taylor and Travis at the U.S. Open because they were being like very PDA they were having a lot of fun they were singing but then there's also been this conversation like their behavior was oh my god inappropriate for the tennis match she was in a suite by the way so like you are you do are afforded privacy and yeah every camera on the planet is on her but in the actual real world of

where she was in the physical being no one was looking at her like like she was afforded more privacy and also like please like just shut up okay how about how about you just shut up yeah also they're playing music if it's fun enough that you can play music like why can't you dance don't play music if you don't want me to dance. And I can understand Taylor because I just was at the U.S. Open and I too was sucking down those honey juices. Honey juice is the official cocktail of the U.S. Open. And I actually never had one up until this year because they're vodka. And I've always been very loyal to tequila. But I don't know if I've even spoken about this journey on the podcast. Like I'm really opening myself up

to vodka. Taylor Strecker has kind of influenced me because I had Cosmos with her and they were so delicious so you know this year I was like Ben I'll try it because Ben is like it's so good so when in Rome you have to have one Jackie they're fucking delicious like they don't even taste like vodka I sucked down four and then I found out they were like 250 calories each I'm like oh my god I had a thousand calories in alcohol whatever when in Rome I think she was sucking down those honey juices and like got a little lit because they really they hit you very slowly you don't even realize you're like oh there can't be any alcohol in here it tastes like juice yeah so good but I think that's also just who she is like she this house at award shows she's dancing like she's

she likes to dance she likes to like I know everyone's always watching her all the time but she likes to as much as she can like act like no one's watching yes but she also and I think this is part of her success like she loves music like that's her thing like she has a song in her heart she's gonna sing it she's gonna dance it there was this video of them that went viral singing the song like I actually don't know what song I believe in the thing called love yeah yeah yeah and like of course she knew every single word so So did he. Maybe it's like their song. I don't know. Yeah.

No, I thought the same thing. And he was making a lot of news because he has like a Mario Luigi mustache and he had his hair slicked back. People were like, he looks like he's going to make it a pizza. I want to say best look yet. He seriously, he can't look ugly. Let me just tell you, I saw about 10 photos of them, different photos before I even noticed him.

I totally agree. When people are like, look at his look. I his look I'm like oh what I have to do a double take like I literally don't look I'm looking at what she's wearing and he's just there a thousand percent like who's evaluating his fashion choices seriously not me I could give a rip I could give a really his hat at the U.S. Open's funny I was like he's wearing a hat I also love that like we were saying how she's off work now right like it's his time he's focusing on football like she's gonna be in Kansas City and just like you know making music from his house like no no the game is over they flew to New York I told you New York's on fire this week US Open Fashion Week dinner this bus club I love that they are not just like you know settling down she's like no no I want to be seen I want to be fabulous and he loves that too he loves that too it's not like he's like a homebody no Travis is a party boy he is lest we not forget

and as long as it doesn't impact his performance it's all good and so far it hasn't oh speaking of is the Super Bowl performer a story yeah it's our next story um and then also so the men's finals is the game that they were at and the American underdog also uh uh Morg's boyfriend thank you I was trying to say like also a part of the influencer wars oh yeah the influencer tennis wars but also the influencer tennis wars like are really heightened at the U.S. Open because like all the influencers are there then you have like the tennis wags then you have like the men were actually playing tennis and there is a war on the court it's a lot I only knew because Taylor was there that Taylor Fritz was in the final against Yannick Sinner Yannick won he was a huge underdog this is the furthest he'd made it in a grand slam so I think making it to the finals was like was a big W for him you

know and he beat in the game before this he had beat someone he had like wanted to beat his whole fucking career so I think it's all good for him like this is major for Morgz too um and everyone was rooting for him because it was like a real underdog and he was American the other player wasn't so I would have loved for him to win but seriously like it was an honor I think just to be there I think he would say the same but I feel like if he had won then Taylor and Travis Travis would have went backstage and congratulated him. And Taylor and Morgz would have met. I feel like they might have met still, even though he lost.

Maybe. Yeah. So that was fun, the U.S. Open. And I just want to say, the influencers really showed up and showed out. The pictures. How does everyone get those fantastic tennis stand pictures like not the ones they take of themselves but like where it looks like a paparazzi took them it is there's so much media at the u.s open and so when you have a like that's

what i was wondering about taylor and travis too which box they were in because every box is spoken for there's the emirates box the gray goose box i think a lot of the big um brands have but then a lot of the big talent agencies have too like you know that represent the biggest athletes the biggest music artists um so you go with someone and i was curious who what suite they were in because they took up the whole thing they brought hame they brought all their friends i don't know whose suite it was but when it comes to those paparazzi pictures, the brand will tell media, like, if you, you know, to pay attention to our suite, we've got X, Y, and Z coming. Got it, got it.

Nice. Yeah. Nice little ecosystem. It is. They've got a good thing going on at the US Open. I will say it's fabulous. It really is. And it was a gorgeous affair.

Everyone gets dressed up. It was a gorgeous affair. Mm-hmm. It was really nice. Yeah. Our next story, Super Bowl halftime show performer is announced and it's Kendrick Lamar Kendrick Lamar will be headlining the 2025 Super Bowl halftime show Apple Music and the NFL announced the news on Sunday via Instagram with a photo of Kendrick sitting on a football

field in front of an American flag background the big game will be hosted at the Caesars Superdome in New Orleans on February 9th, 2025. So like the rumors that were basically confirming that Miley was doing it were just a big fat lie. Or maybe she was like thrown in the mix. I forgot about that and now I'm disappointed. So here's the thing. I'm not like a listener of Kendrick Lamar music. So I obviously would have preferred someone else.

But I think for people who love Kendrick Lamar, and that's's literally so many people this is huge and I'm really happy for them I do wish the NFL had taken the opportunity because this is now we're going into the second year where it's really football is becoming for the girls right we're getting everyone's getting involved and now of course I would have loved to have Taylor but whatever you can't have everything I think if they had like leaned in a little bit that would have been really cool like having like a glitzy glammy girly moment I would have liked that um and I think it would have been nice like it almost felt like yeah they're welcoming us in but I think they also are very conscious to not alienate their core OG fans who like fucking hate

us um I don't know this is just not for me because I don't listen to Kendrick Lamar but I think that like in the context of like the, it's a very good choice. Yeah, he's the number one rapper, so that's good. Strong choice. A lot of people will be excited about this. People then, of course, wonder if he's going to bring out anyone.

He has bad blood with Taylor. He has a song with Beyonce. You know Beyonce doesn't show up anywhere, but she's more likely than not to show up at the Super Bowl. I think Beyonce's more likely to perform at the up at the Super Bowl. I think Beyonce's more likely to perform at the halftime show than Taylor because I think for Taylor if she's performing at the halftime show it's her halftime show. She never has. And I think that she doesn't want to like if Travis is in the game she doesn't want to be working the game and if he's not in the

game like she doesn't want to be there without him. I just think it doesn't really make sense and especially to just come out and perform one song. So hopefully it'll be a jolly good show. Hopefully it'll be a jolly good show and that the Niners will win. Bang, bang. Oh, by the way, tonight, I have no plans, thank God. 8-15, Niners versus Jets.

My two teams. Oh, that's exciting. The Cowboys won yesterday. Also exciting. That's amazing. And I think the Dolphins won. That's huge. Big day for Florida.

I have a lot of teams that I like. So if anyone is lagging behind, I always, I'm never too disappointed. Right. I love the Buffalo Bills because I think Hailee Steinfeld and Josh are like the cutest couple seriously ever to have walked the earth. Taylor and Travis over in Kansas. Niners have my heart. Jets and Giants.

I don't have a Jets and Giants. I don't have a liking towards the Giants really, but New York is New York, you know? Yeah. You know, if the Atlanta Falcons are playing, I feel a lot of nostalgia for when Corey Bierman was on the team. That's a stretch. I can connect.

No, I can connect. Oh, I can connect to any team, but as far as teams that I would buy their jerseys, there's like five I'd feel comfortable wearing. Yeah, I don't think I would buy an Atlanta jersey that's fair right but you're happy to see them win but you know Corey Beamerin also had a very brief stint on the bills so I would buy a bills jersey Josh Allen it's New York it's New York and I love Josh Allen like I just think he's so cute and sweet and nobody like please don't leave a comment about something mean he once did. Like, I don't want to know. Yeah.

About, like, his ex-girlfriend. Please. We left on the side of the road for Haley Steinfeld. Pregnant. We already told you we don't care. Pregnant. Pregnant? No, I don't know.

I can just imagine. Like, please. I don't want to know. Don't look at me. I don't know a thing. Are you ready for our next story? Yes, but I want to say this really quickly because I'm going to forget it. And we're not going to get into the perfect couple recap but that female detective should have been played by Alex

Bornstein Miss Ungermeyer I have a special place in my heart from that female detective actress because she was in the show Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and I don't feel like she gets her flowers enough so oh really oh I think she got too many flowers I thought she was horrible like seriously she shouldn't have been cast well in the context of all of which that came before her yeah like yeah it wasn't good and like why are they putting a Boston accent on her when she doesn't have one and nobody else had to change their accent really they just were like any accent wait so I think a lot of people from anywhere oh Nicole Kidman was the main character in the show really I think like the the accents were it was seriously such a hodgepodge of weirdness we'll get into it we'll get into it

because i have so many thoughts about the accents anyway so weird our next story um also making news this weekend was the tiff festival um tiff the tiff jennifer lopez and matt demon were seen holding hands during an intimate conversation at the tiff amid ben affleck divorce so this picture is like making major waves so the tiff is uh the toronto international film festival just like yes yes and i love the tiff i know you're kind of obsessed yeah anything that comes out of the tiff like i'm first she waits all year for the tiff waiting all year for tiffy tiff tiffy you're tiffy oh um are you ready for this picture yeah this picture is like kind of crazy jay and what is jaylo doing at the tiffy oh are you ready for this picture yeah this picture is like kind of crazy

jay and what is jaylo doing at the tiff uh looking like a million bucks she looked amazing and it's so funny i saw like a tweet because i had the same thing i saw her in this dress like looking so hot and she had straight hair like straight hair is having a moment and she the tweet was like i love how jaylo like looks fire and we're all back on her team because I'm seriously like I'm writing for JLo now I wasn't ever not especially after this picture it tells like kind of a story that it does JLo and Matt Damon were photographed holding hands during an intimate conversation at the TIFF amid her divorce from his best friend Ben Affleck the pair shared a sentimental moment while having a private chat at an after party to celebrate their new movie Unstoppable which premiered on Friday.

She stars in the project, which was produced by Matt and Ben's company, Artists' Equity. So in the picture, they're like seen in a quarter sitting on a couch, talking and holding hands. So it's obviously like a friendly, you know, I'm here for you sort of conversation. It paints her as like the victim in the divorce which I think is garnering a lot of sympathy because if that's his best friend like he's obviously going to be on Ben's side he's going to be holding Ben's hand right and it's always the best friend who's actually like madder at the ex than even the guy himself and same for girls

right like you you feel so defensive and protective of your friend so if he's like holding her hand shouldering her through this like it just makes me think that like, I don't know. It's not something. Like, I don't know, just paints a picture that like she couldn't. He did something. I agree. And I think between the dress and this photo, like this officially marks her comeback. And I think Katy Perry has been really, really helpful.

I think Katy Perry has been really helpful in expediting her comeback because you know there's we're always like hating on one person right it's Katy Perry right now and like it puts into perspective like what has JLo ever done except like be a believer in love and kind of cringe I have not been hating on JLo whatsoever no I feel like we've been very defensive of her except for the birthday party yeah except for the birthday party with the Bridgerton theme. But that's neither here nor there. Neither. That could have happened regardless of Ben.

Yeah. But she believes in a thing called love. She does. And I do feel like something, and we said, like, to get married and divorced after two years, not have a prenup, so, like, you expected probably to be married for longer. I feel like something happened, and he something what did he do the reports recently have been saying that like he seriously packed up his stuff and just left like no explanation just like

decided he didn't want to be married anymore now I don't know how much we believe like the daily mail reports but I can kind of see it and then he's like Matt Damon's over here consoling like sorry you got married and the man disappeared he literally like ghosted you yeah he seems moody he seems moody yeah you could say it's an understatement but I could see it like it's giving Moody's point it is I could see it as well so and I think Matt Damon um is a p-john so funny when I was posting on not to make everything about me when I was like posting pictures for my dinner with Pookie and Jet so many DMs were like oh my god I thought Jet was Matt Damon like I guess that might be his like celebrity look like and you know what I kind of see it yeah I do yeah cute yeah are you ready for our next story some very exciting news I don't know if

you've seen this yet but two new entrants into the EGOT Hall of Fame. Benj Pasek. And Justin Paul, a.k.a. Pasek and Paul. Oh, both of them, duh. Both of them earn an EGOT after their 2024 Emmy Award win for Only Murders in the Building tune. So Pasek and Paul are the musical geniuses behind Greatest Showman, La La Land, and something else.

D.R. Evan Hansen. Oh, of course. That's like how they got started. Right. And now they are EGOT winners because they wrote a tune for Only Murders in the Building. But in the past, they won Tony Awards for the score to D.R. Evan Hansen

and producing the best musical, A Strange Loop. They have two Grammys for D.R. Evan Hansen's cast album and for The Greatest Showman's compilation soundtrack and an Oscar for penning the lyrics to City of Stars from La La Land. So now they are EGOTs. And joining the likes of, you know, who's most recent?

Jennifer Hudson. Elton John. John Legend. Viola Davis. And Alan Menken. One thing about Alan Menken is like he, Alan Menken serves. He slays. Like Alan Menken. One thing about Alan Menken is like he Alan Menken serves he slays like Alan Menken is that bitch. Alan Menken like shows up to work gets it done doesn't complain doesn't make a show of himself never puts out firework and goes home. And Alan Menken also like has the privilege

of being able to go to the grocery store probably unbothered maybe maybe one person will say something but he he can live his life and he's probably so rich yeah so I'm really I passing and Paul like I couldn't think of two worthier people I mean I think I know the answer to this question but what do you think is passing and Paul's greatest work greatest showman on a person yes but like Dear Evan Hansen soundtrack and play or gargi pargi the music from Dear Evan Hansen is like some of the and you know like I don't like love plays so good so good and then La La Land just like didn't capture me but I can say objectively like it was amazing just for me I missed it it passed me by what is to us like you know Greatest Showman Hairspray is to us like you know greatest showman hairspray is to most people like our age like for a lot of people La La Land like changed the landscape of musicals of media like of life

for me I was like oh it's cute I like that thing they did in the opening scene where like they shut down the freeway like I I don't know it didn't hit for me yeah I like that but probably because like I stopped watching after that part but I don't know why yeah it didn't capture me you would think that it would it's just like a little silly let's get real I don't know it just like it had like that sort of sepia tone filter on it was honestly like stupid like the more I remember it like I actually okay it was bad Jackie speak your truth like I feel like you're kind of circling the drain not wanting to offend like Stassi Schroeder because I can recognize that people like love something about it.

And I wouldn't want like my yum to be yucked. It's true. But like, I did watch the whole thing in earnest, like ready to be wowed. I love a movie musical more than anyone. And like, why was it so bad? Like what story, what were they even saying in it? What time period was it in? And like, what were they even doing?

It was modern. Was it? What time period was it in? And what were they even doing? It was modern. Was it? They didn't have cell phones. I just think they weren't addicted to their, you know. No, and the car. I feel like it was. What was even the moral of the story? I don't know.

Because they didn't end up together. Did they? I don't know. Were they dating? Were they not? I don't know. Were they dating? Were they not? I don't know. I saw the movie like one and a half times. What were they doing?

I don't know. I'm not entirely sure, but like happy for Pasek and Paul. How about that? Happy for Pasek and Paul. And a little more movie musical news in the same story is that The Phantom of the Opera is being adapted as a YA movie from Kenny Ortega at Disney Plus. I'm sorry. YA?

Like they're remaking Phantom of the Opera for young adults. By the way, I know what YA means. Thank you. Why YA is the question? How and why? I mean, I never saw it. Not that I'm a young adult, but like they're repackaging it. They're putting a Kenny Ortega sprinkle on it so that it will be palatable to a younger

generation. Like I'm here for it. Yeah. I've never seen Phantom of the Opera, which I think might shock some people, even though I feel like I'm dressed today. Like I'm in Phantom of the Opera. You do look fancy today. I meant to mention.

We have like kind of a big thing. Yeah, we do. We do. So, um, yeah. I just feel like when someone looks fancy, like we have to give them their flowers. Thank you so much. Yeah.

And I'm wearing the shoes that we bought together. Obsessed. I believe in a thing called love. What were we talking about? Kenny Ortega is redoing Phantom of the Opera. So if they ever like wanted. So I know I'm going to love it. If they ever wanted to get us to watch it,

like this was the way. This was. You know the way. Thousand they ever like. So I know I'm going to love it. If they ever wanted to get us to watch it. Like this was the way. This was. You know the way. Thousand percent. Kenny Ortega. You know many blessings. I love him. I also just want to say something.

Because I was just Googling Kenny Ortega. And I accidentally wrote Jenny Ortega. And Jenna Ortega came up. Are they related? They are not. But it is like one of the most asked questions on google it is uh widely like believed them to be because you know nepotism is so popular within hollywood why wouldn't she be his daughter yeah oh i don't want to forget to bring this up but you know

yes yeah amelia from perfect couple is bono's daughter which changes i also follow liz woods on instagram which changes things don't you think yeah Woods on Instagram. Which changes things, don't you think? Yeah, because I was like, how the hell did this girl get cast? She's a terrible actress. But I wasn't going to say, because I thought this was her big break. I was going to look on the positives. And then a couple of times, I was like, is she Irish? She couldn't do an accent.

And when she introduced herself to someone, she's like, oh, I'm Amelia. And I'm like. And also, it's like, why'm Amelia and I'm like and also it's like why didn't they let her use her native accent if they let everyone else and they just like didn't give a rip about accents no seriously the tv recap is oozing out of me also I watched an interview with the cast and the brother Todd the oldest brother Tom Tom is also Irish or something so it's like maybe it's an Irish production company no for real yeah maybe we'll have to look into it anyways are you ready for our fifth and final story that's in

two parts a bit of reality tv news I feel like we had like 11 stories today we did I there were so many stories I'm really trying to like cram as many because i want to talk about everything um kristin dodie's engaged i'm so happy for her like seriously luke broderick proposed with kristin dodie's dream engagement ring that she helped design in 2015 the valley star kristin just got engaged her boyfriend of two years luke after she dreamt up her massive emerald cut engagement ring nearly a decade before page six style has exclusively learned they're told dodie went to a celebrity jewelry designer and good friend kyle chen designs kyle chen with her exact idea for a stunning bauble back in 2015 this same year she split from james kennedy though she didn't meet broderick until two summers ago she soon relayed the ring information to her new beau who then contacted chan i don't watch the valley so can you tell me about their relationship?

Like, are we happy? Is he a good guy? Yeah, he seems like he's definitely the most even keel of all the guys that we've ever seen her be with. He's very different from everyone else that she's dated. He's very chill. You know, it's Kristen who like needs to work on herself a bit, but she's also like on a TV show

that she wants to be successful. So you have to take everything with a grain of salt. I have to say, you know, I have gotten to know her a little bit and Josh Peck is really good friends with her and she's been on Good Guys a bunch and I think people would be surprised to learn she's like actually like very normal and kind of not quiet but like even more even keeled than you would think and I think that she's kind of a professional reality star yeah it is a little crazy the way this checks out because like yes you're a professional reality star but those are also your friends so like right could you look out for them right right right just a bit

but he seems very um a good like yin to yang and I think this is great okay that's very happy for her yeah I'm really happy for her too so um this is great and also also good for a reality show like making big life changes is good for any reality star yes and the season two of the valley which is filming now like it's going to be insane yeah and it'll be a part of this this will be part of it yeah and then part b of our fifth and final story is that molly may has announced her brand new clothing line called maybe and reveals a super exciting update after announcing the launch so when molly Mae posted her comeback to social media video a few weeks after the breakup, she was like, I'm really not ready, but I have a big project launching next month and I need to be, you know, working

and like posting and on social media. So we were all kind of like curious what that big project would be. And she has announced her fashion line, her clothing label, um there was one video that she posted she's like bts vibes and it's called maybe m-a-e-b-e like molly may be cute i think that this is one of those things where you're now because now people are like the breakup was pr like i think actually maybe no she moved up the launch because like everyone's talking about her on such a global scale yeah her life was ruined so why doesn't she get one good thing out of it I actually think the opposite like the breakup was so inconvenient you have this huge thing launching everybody's talking about something else how can we be talking about the clothing label while not talking about Tommy if like I am gonna be so that's why when she made that video she was like

very honest like I have to keep working for a number of reasons I don't want to talk about Tommy I'm not really going to talk about anything that happened but I need to be talking so I think it actually was inconvenient but she's like just handling it as best and really authentically like letting everyone into her process and she said at the top of her first YouTube video back like I'm not gonna there will be no explanation there will just be maybe right because he's the father of her children it's very personal like painful thing for her that's not her vibe to like air her dirty laundry on the internet um but she has to work and what her job is creating content about her life so she's just kind of like putting this in a box hoping that her fans will just like respect the box and not

open it which we are happy to do as my fans and I also think like I love analyzing influencer businesses I think that this was a really good call for her she was the creative director of pretty little thing like she's very involved in like UK fashion scene yeah and I think people love her style I actually really do like her style too it's very similar to mine it's a kind of business casual if you will yeah um so I think that's great it's like business cool yeah like trousers button downs high-waisted like literally what I'm wearing today like high-waisted shorts I am so excited to see what she puts out however like I don't know I feel like what doing a fashion line is more often than not just like a money suck and I actually saw a clip of Whitney Port

on a podcast talking about how when she was doing the Hills, she put everything she made into her clothing line, which at the time was even like successful. I think she had like stores. It was, it was not like a total flop yet. Flop. It completely drained all the money that she made and now isn't around anymore. Like, I don't know. I think it's a really big risk and there's so much overhead.

It's a, it's a lot. It is. You know, I was thinking about that today because I was on Instagram and I saw Aaron Foster and Sarah Foster were getting like a Women's Wear Daily Award. And I feel like we didn't even talk about how really successful their clothing company is, Favorite Daughter. They are kind of, I think, and that's why so many people, they're always surprised when like they find out like a designer or like someone in fashion is like a nepo kid. Because you really need to have money to do it. You're right. Like,

and that's how a lot of people like end up doing like fast fashion, like literally drop shipping from China because it's really the only sustainable way. Sustainable financially, not for the environment, obviously. Even someone else who had done a clothes. Oh,

something Navy. Like who, who was better poised to have a clothing line, design clothes, have like retail pop ups. Shit investors. Like who, who is better poised to have a clothing line, design clothes, have like retail pop ups. She had investors, like every, the whole kit and caboodle. And like, it's so hard to make a go of it. And I can't think of anyone who would have been more poised for success than her.

She sells out everything that she wears, but at a certain point, it's just easier to just like keep making money from affiliate links or even do like capsule collections with Nordstrom like she did. Or like Amazon drop does that. Let them take on like all of the financial burden the only thing is like you'll never become a billionaire that way right but I don't know it's a really big gamble and I think Molly Mae is another one that's like she's as well suited as anyone to have a success in this that's why a lot of the times what people do go out and do their online you might not even realize

that it's in partnership, even behind the scenes, with somebody big, like a big department store, a big online retailer. Yeah. It's hard out there. It's hard out there,

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to do first let's do perfect couple okay perfect couple based on a book that jackie and i absolutely adored the perfect couple by ellen hill hill de brant murder mystery set in nantucket six episodes on netflix cast to the gods leah schreiber megan fahey nicole kidman like every like Dakota Fanning they could not have done a better job with casting. Like we were so hyped. Better budget, better setting, better subject matter and material. And they fumbled the ball. So give it a score out of 10. Cause I want to know if we're like really on the same page.

I'm giving it like a three. Yeah. I was going to say like four or five and that's, and that's generous. I fell asleep in one of the, in middle of one of the episodes. Like that's saying a lot. It was absolute chaos the way the flow of the show so many times I had to like check the audio settings on my tv I'm like they keep talking over each other I'm like I found it very difficult to watch and like something about it I feel like whatever the direction was like I guess I take for granted like shows that flow well because

I didn't realize like it could be so hard for like a show to have flow the writing was really bad cringe especially considering like it's based on a book like the work was done for you I feel like Big Red being like I gave you a perfect routine the the dialogue in the cop scenes was like actually satire like that's how SNL portrays like shows like SVU. Well, he done did it and ran like, no. And then it's like the federal agent coming into the local agents and like,

they're going to be like, Oh, you don't know an oyster shucker. Meanwhile, that kid will woof. Who's been shucking oysters his whole life. Just like, can't get one open.

Why is he like sitting on the beach by himself, like shucking one oyster that he can't even open and splits his hand open? I don't even know where to begin with my biggest complaint. I think what people love about Ellen Hildebrandt books is they're all set in Nantucket. And she's so descriptive. It really makes you want to go to Nantucket. And I've been, but I don't know the island very well. And she really paints such a gorgeous picture.

They literally didn't leave the house. Like, was no beauty there was no there was no culture like where was the Nantucket Claudia they didn't even film in Nantucket they filmed in town chat chat Chatham I think it's like on the cape so you still have like those New England vibes but like they literally had two scenes of the town when they had to go to the ferry they got like access to the ferry and a house but they couldn't film on Nantucket but I agree Ellen Hildebrand books it's always like they're always like taking the jeep out on the beach like yeah in the flash sandwiches the sandwich shops right like we would have seen when uh the fiance like showed her around Nantucket they were just like in the house all the time or at the beach of the house there

was one scene where she was walking down the beach with shooter when they like went to go open the house for the season so what's that like may why did she look like someone like crossing the sea on the mayflower in the middle of january no uh it was one of the weirdest outfits i ever saw in my life no no i was so like sad that we didn't get the like in ellen hildebrand's books the main character is nantucket like yeah so we didn't get any of those beachy summer hydrangea vibes which was just like a letdown I remember from the book and I don't I didn't even remember who did it so that was like exciting I got to watch it as like someone who's never I didn't even care like I literally didn't even care in the I remember who did it the entire time and spoiler major spoiler it's Dakota Fanning's character in the book and in the show however in the book it's a manslaughter it's accidental because she tried to

um drug Isabel the older woman who was sleeping with her husband so that she would just go to sleep that night because she was like oh my god I don't even remember this yeah she she like nicked Isabel's drink so that she would like fall asleep and not sleep with her husband that night. Cause like she was having an affair with her husband. And then in the show, they have her like intentionally drugging Merritt and then holding her head down and drowning her, which was just like, I felt really unnecessary. And I, that's why I don't like watching a show that I've read the book because I'll always compare, but it just turned into something that in the book it wasn't. It was like, you know, who did it?

Oh, it was actually her because she drugged someone who wound up going swimming. But in the book, like Merit like goes for a swim and then gets lost. Yeah. Oh my God, that's so much better by the way. I remember from the book, like I actually really loved learning about Merritt right she was this really like kind of misunderstood girl she was like had a reputation for being kind of like loose right but she was actually not like that and then she had this whole career as an influencer we got no Merritt and I remember in the book didn't they feel like not film but like

there were a lot of scenes in back in Manhattan yeah in the book there was a lot of scenes like period of of first of all her name is Celeste in the book but like Amelia in Manhattan yeah in the book there was a lot of scenes like period of of first of all her name is Celeste in the book but like Amelia in Manhattan when she met Will Amelia in Manhattan with with Shooter Merritt in Manhattan like you know getting a hotel tag tag and there was none of that I guess they literally only had access to the house and they couldn't film anywhere else okay can you tell me because I thought the house looked so familiar I feel like it was in like Outer Banks or something does anybody know what I'm talking about have we seen this house in any other piece of content not that I realized no so also the main character of the show was Nicole Kidman right or Amelia a fucking Drake cup oh my

god she was so missed no no no nothing of course she is her best friend just died and so but Jackie that's not even why she was missed she wasn't even like grief-stricken she was just like so miserable so she comes into the weekend with a best friend a fiance a lover who she's in love with and she leaves the weekend with no best friend no fiance and she's not going off with Shooter either in the book she leaves with Shooter like they're meant to be together and like why would she deny herself that love after all of the loss that she just experienced why would she throw away her relationship with benji that's his name um for nothing to go work at the zoo in london also is it a criteria if you work at the central park zoo that that's all the clothing that you can wear in your free time

why did every shirt that she has say central park zoo like we get it she works at the zoo also god forbid you show us her at the central park zoo to drive the point home right nicole kidman like going to find her in london at the end with her book like i seriously was not okay no and she like all of a sudden cares about amelia when she didn't care about like why would you have like more respect for her now than you did when she was marrying your son it's not like she did anything like remarkable over the course of the six months except like cheat on your son and leave him brokenhearted it was really a very bad show and why did they let Nicole Kidman keep her accent but not her hair why did she have to wear a wig no no I wanted more Megan Fahey so badly she's such a good actress and she's so beautiful she's like really a pleasure to watch we got her in one dress like she didn't have to change outfits the entire time yeah and I'm happy

for her because this is like a huge moment for her and she probably had to do literally no work she filmed one scene the engagement party and that's it in the book we got to know so much more about her her life back home we got none of it it sucked and then Amelia was like oh Merit's not like that she doesn't sleep around like for her to sleep with someone's like a really big deal like but then we we know tag and we see the way that he's with her and Merit's a smart girl but like she can't see through through him who's like literally giving her nothing and who sleeps with anything that moves she didn't see that she got carried away but she she's more shrewd than that you guys it was so bad like it was literally so bad it was and I remember that like the the developed like when we found out that she was having uh an affair with the dad it was like

the biggest deal and was like this huge bombshell they dropped in the middle like they just kind of like yeah no they kept doing that was like a device that they did where they were like big things they're just gonna like drop it like not bigly like Nicole Kidman even seeing the bracelet they just like showed us that and I guess that's like a cool thing for it didn't work for me because I had already seen read the book so like I knew that um but yeah a strange way to like drop big information also like Merit asking Benji to paint her and then giving her best friend's fiance a photograph of her in a bikini. Like it's not speaking highly of Merit. No it was like they didn't do a good job of like really the character development.

Characters that made sense. No wait Claudia. The craziest part. Amelia's mom is dying and due to this circumstance they all get stuck in one house together for let's say two weeks. And she's not spending every waking minute with her dying mother when she just lost her best friend the family of her fiance might have killed her best friend and is making her sign ndas and she can't trust them and oh she doesn't even like her fiance to begin with but she's running around fucking her ex-fiance making out with shooter and her mom is quietly

suffocating in the room next door it's absurd and the scene where she has sex with her ex-fiance at the book launch party where like he's wasted. I'm sorry, if the gender roles were reversed, that would be like completely wrong. And so how is it not wrong? She was awful. She was awful. She was awful.

Okay, Shooter, like I wasn't sure. He half the time had an accent because he is supposed to be like a diplomat from India. Half the time he had an accent, half the time he didn't. So sometimes I felt like it was intentional. With Amelia, I think it slipped out a couple of times. She couldn't pronounce her own name

without sounding Irish. She's Bono's daughter, by the way. Yes. So if you're wondering. It's a beautiful day. How and why. Also, the character of Celeste in the book was not,

they changed her personality completely with Amelia. Like Amelia is much more confident and outgoing and brazen the first scene she like walks out into the yard in her negligee like titties out ass out wondering why her mother-in-law like wants her to cover up save the ladybug girl open a window like stop in the book like Celeste was like very meek and very shy and very overwhelmed by everything and and um just like, like much less outspoken. So they, I thought it worked better that way versus like, how did Amelia find herself in this situation? And why, if she doesn't like Benji, she's not the type that would just like do something just to do

it. And she didn't even like, she actually hated their money. So like, why are you here? The relationship also with the press, like really bothered me. Cause I, cause I can only think of like a contemporary example. It's like Colleen Hoover, right? The biggest author of all time. Seriously, nobody knows anything about her personal life. Nobody cares. The way they acted like she was. Who was Colleen Hoover's son's fiance

didn't come to her book launch party. Like I don't think there would be a lot of questions. And the bigger question would be like, why wasn't Colleen Hoover's husband there? Because he was in jail. So Amelia has to go or else it's all these red flags, but Tag isn't there. And that's why the book is about him.

He's not there, but we're not gonna be so worried about that. It was a very bad show. And it reminded me a lot of, like they really wanted it to be like The Undoing with also Nicole Kidman that HBO show and Hugh Grant and the whole time it was like a whodunit and it was so good like till the very last fucking minute we all were on the edges of our seats they so wanted it to be like that like

when they said who it was I was like I don't give a fuck yeah I don't give a fuck her character like made no sense to none I couldn't get a read on her at all. Yeah. Bad. Like literally bad. I was so disappointed. I hate to be a hater. In the book her character obviously like has like selfish intentions. But in this show she's like a cold-blooded killer.

Like there is a very big difference. Like they're living with a killer. Yeah. A pregnant killer. Yeah. Like literally made no sense. anything else before we talk about who lose I mean I could keep going on every character in every scene it was so bad we didn't even talk about the little brother because in the book there was not an insufferable little brother

who had his own storyline that we could how do you remember so much about the book I just that's what I do. Like there was, I think there was probably a little brother, but like he wasn't like taking his sailboat out in the middle of the night, like in crying. Yeah. With the daughter of the detective.

Claudia, like make it stop. No, it was really, it was. Who was in love with Merritt, a little brother. Oh,

right. Yes. Thank you. Right. It was like actually a piece of shit. It was a piece of shit. And just know I'm not talking. And by the way, I don't know if I've ever seen

Liev Schreiber act in anything. I love him, but I don't know. Because his thing is that movie Taken, right? Like that series. I never saw it. No, no. That's Liam Neeson. Oh, fuck.

Okay. Well, I don't think I've ever seen him act in anything. And let me just say this. I love him. He's so hot. Yeah. And he is very talented yeah he held it down he did his part he did his part so did Merritt they gave her nothing to work with Megan Fahey oh we need to talk about the theme song oh I mean the most redeeming part of the entire show and what's so crazy is I saw a story like the cast really was against it they started like a whatsapp group chat to like be like we don't want to do this well I want to say I loved it it made no sense like and it was

just another part of this hodgepodge of crap yeah um but I loved every time it came on the song is so good they had Megan Trainor write an original song you know you know I gotta do it again like loved and okay cute everybody looked cute in the dance mob I love to see everybody it made no sense yeah it was I understand why they were against it if the show was good it would have been like great but because the show was bad it's like well we wasted the good intro on this no and the intro doesn't make sense in the context of well it's like they're all dancing because they're at an engagement party and and I saw some behind the scenes there was like a group hug and they left out Lee of Schreiber I didn't like that. I saw that too. Leah Schreiber getting left out of the group hug.

I didn't like it. I mean, he's a grown man on this stupid set of a stupid show. Like. So we're a family. I just, I love to see Megan Fahey like moving up in this world. You know, I think a lot of people were like, what is she going to do after White Lotus? And I think this was great for her career. Like I actually do.

And I'm glad she wasn't in it that much because it wasn't good like the parts with her were the best parts and Nicole Kidman like I love her she can do no wrong but I think like the next thing she does like she it needs to be a departure like we've had enough of like the woman worrying in the window big little lies like the woman worrying in the window yeah It's time for something new. Agreed. And I love Nicole Kidman. She can do no wrong,

but she did a lot of wrong in this. She was not good. And then a major twist in the show that was not in the book is that she was an escort. And that's why she doesn't leave because he's going to expose her. Okay. Oh, wait, wait, wait.

When her and her brother were sitting in the police station and they had to pull the truth out of them. literally wasn't scandalous at all no and it's like why do you want to stay in this police station when you know this could get you off also like the police don't have your guys's real names to know that your brother and sister oh and you could just say in an interrogation room anyone is your brother and they'll let you leave this particular police station was filled with some of the dumbest people i've ever fucking met yeah and that like fbi agent from boston like when she was uh talking to dakota johnson dakota fanning like waiting for her husband like doing like secret police work but

like having a conversation like seriously cringe miggy. Actually the older brother was one of my favorite characters. Agreed he was funny and he was a good actor. And because he was the only one like who was being mean to the people I didn't like like Benji like when he went to eat the wedding cake like what the fuck else are you gonna do with it? No Benji was seriously like weenie and I actually liked in the beginning um when she was saying how she loves him but she's like not attracted him because he's like not like manly he like paints and like doesn't like fuck her the way she wants to be fucked like on all fours um I loved that oh well I felt like she wanted to have sex with him that way so she didn't have to look at him and she could imagine it was shooter

oh that too but actually like when he wanted to turn around she was like don't look at me yes but when she was talking to Megan Fahey before she was like I love him but I don't like want him what did she say exactly because he's like soft oh I thought it's because she's in love with Shooter it's hard to like want one person when your heart is somewhere else maybe the fact that like we don't know is just proof why how the show did a bad job and they didn't develop her relationship with Shooter at all in the book it was like there were a couple times where they were put alone together and they spent time together and it was like clear you know that they were like really sweet and cute together and then in the show it was like that one night I was like how do you guys even know each other the b train and it's like okay so they don't they're not liquid this family because tags money

is tied up in trust and Nicole Kidman is paying for everything based on one book a year which definitely millions but like at the level that they're living, like they need their millions. Yet they're chartering a huge private plane to fly up Amelia. 30 minutes. And shooter to Nantucket for a weekend. Dumb. Made no sense.

When they could, they could obviously like fly commercial. They could drive. They could take a smaller plane. No. obviously like fly commercial they could drive they could take a smaller plane no and I know we'd do it again relax don't don't do it that's what it sounds like yeah um okay hulu secret lives and mormon wives I only watch the first episode and I'm gonna say this I the one I know most from oh and by the way hulu is a sponsor of today's show. This recap is not sponsored. We actually watched it.

Yeah, we would be recapping the show even if they weren't a sponsor. A thousand percent. But just know like that ad was an ad and this is not. Like we're saying our true thoughts. Yeah. Taylor was the one I was like most familiar with. She like started the whole thing. And I knew that in real life, like she does get pregnant.

She just had the baby. So I knew, I thought, I didn't know that she miscarried which was really sad um the other girls I have such a hard time keeping them apart it's gonna take some changing they keep changing their hair color it's gonna take some time I've got a few nailed down but Whitney I know Whitney from her eyebrows and her hair like is shorter she looks like a little bit different now Now I know Macy. She keeps her hair the same. And she has like a person. Actually, I know Michaela too now at this point. And the four of them are the original Mom Talk swingers. Now here's my big question, of course. Whose husband did Taylor catch feelings for and have an affair with? And that woman is standing by her man.

So when it unraveled on social media and now also in the show, they are not telling us. And not only that, the big question for me is, who was a part of it and who was? Because Taylor says everyone was a part of it. You ask all of them, they said, no, I wasn't, I wasn't. Who was? To me, it seems like the four OGs were a part of it. Taylor, Whitney, Michaela, Macy. And then one of their husbands and Taylor took things ext far extracurricular yeah Taylor's like a tough

watch right she's makes poor decisions she's kind of like reckless and that's her mom was really harsh with her but I think especially her mom is like super conservative and religious and like uptight it's even harder to yeah to watch um but that scene at the very end where they were talking about um Whitney she brought everyone over to like share her big truth, big reveal. And the big reveal, which which she was definitely obfuscating, is that her husband, yes, was on Tinder and that he was having like digital relations with women, sending pictures back and forth as part of a larger porn addiction.

And I think, you know, that was the big thing. And then Taylor just like sort of drops like her drama. And her story is a story worth telling, right? You know, it's so she had a miscarriage. So sad. Time and place. I don't know. I don't know either.

And then Whitney got all mad. And I kind of agreed with her, even though Whitney. OK, let me send you this video you might not know Whitney but you might have seen this incredibly viral video that people are now putting together is her oh okay send it to me and also their show like as someone who I actually think I know I know the the smallest bit about mom talk that like it was a group of Utah Mormon moms and they were swinging that's's literally all I knew. So the show is like explaining it to me and they're doing a pretty good job, but I actually feel like I still have even more questions about. Look at the thing I just sent you. Do you remember

the video of that mom who went viral? She was asked a question about her baby who's in the NICU and she's dancing in the NICU. Yes. That's Whitney. Oh my God. I've not even seen the original video. I've only seen like other people's takes on it. Yep. I've seen like someone being like post this and then switch like split screen the baby. Yeah like you need to keep that in mind that that Whitney is this person who thought that this would be a good idea because to me it says a lot about her character. Wait I'm watching. Lily was taken in because of low oxygen. He tested positive for RSV. Oh my God. He's wearing like a neck brace. Yeah, her baby's in the NICU,

like right in the video. Okay, that changes things. Silently suffering. Because so far I'm like, she seems to be as much as there is like the moral compass of the show, as much as there was one. She tries to be. But now it's like,

well, she left town and told everyone she left because of the mom talk drama, but she was actually really dealing with a scandal. And I do think her coming and telling the group um she didn't have to do that right everybody had kind of moved on from those rumors about him being on tinder um that conversation with her husband like and he was crying on the couch like talking about his addiction but it's like at that point we didn't know what the addiction was so I'm like well what did you do I was just like please like I'm begging you sir stop crying yeah stop crying in front of me and so now

they're all influencers so there's the four OGs and then like a larger group they're all influencers they actually had a conversation I think it's an episode two about how they're all the breadwinners in their family but that also ever since Taylor's arrest brand deals have gone down because people don't want everyone for everyone they don't want to be like associated. What if one of them like in a few weeks. Right. No, because at first it was like, you know, moms being moms. Like what brand wouldn't want to get involved in that? Yeah.

And then the swinging was like, and I'm just surprised more of the girls aren't furious at Taylor. Now I think they're putting it to the side for the sake of the TV show. Yeah. Because now they have a TV show and they do need their views back up and they are the breadwinners in their family but yeah what she did was really crazy and then also one of them she was like off with the husband it's also incredible how big of a role reddit plays in this i thought the same they all scroll reddit they give so much credit to like these baseless rumors yeah they really do and I feel like they tailor their content to it.

They like address stuff based on it. And I wonder what it would be like if they didn't, if they just like existed. But I think it's like part of the ecosystem. Those are also the people who like watch MomTalks. So they're like feeding them too. And that's just like where the community lives. But yeah, they were like,

every other word is like, I saw this on Reddit. I'm like, okay. Yeah, I was shocked. Yeah. And they're like putting screenshots from Reddit on Hulu. Yeah, yeah. It was crazy. But so here's what's confusing.

The first episode ends, domestic violence arrest. The next episode begins, Taylor is about eight months pregnant. What? Yeah, and she's having her baby shower. She's getting ready for her baby shower. And just there's this huge jump in time that. Right, because she's just miscarrying. So that takes a couple months eight months pregnant that's like maybe a year yeah why did they pause filming was this meant was the original first episode meant to just be like a one like a documentary about the no no they filmed a pilot

but then why it takes a year to get like a full production company to pick it up that's it sorry that happened remember with the real housewives of salt lake city but the first episode wasn't things from the year before from a year ago they referenced it out they referenced they cut it out there but like i just so this was the pilot that they shopped around hulu picked it up i think and the rest of the episodes were paid for by hulu to produce got it i understand okay sorry yes i wish I would have explained. I'm like, did Taylor call off the cameras because of everything that happened

and she wasn't ready to pick back up for eight months? And maybe they shouldn't have included that first episode as episode one, but it provided a lot of context. Yeah. And most importantly, the arrest, which I think was huge news. So that's why they included it.

Whereas like with Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, they shot the pilot. I think they actually shot a couple of episodes and then scrapped it once the show got picked up and they started filming like a year later and they referenced stuff. But I think with the arrest, they couldn't let go of that OG footage.

So then the rest of the season is like Taylor's pregnancy and stuff like more current stuff. Interesting. I didn't know that. Yeah. So only watch one episode. I watched episode two. I'm going to finish it. Me and Ben are one episode I watch episode two I'm gonna I'm gonna finish it me and Ben are really enjoying it yeah I'm gonna finish it too it's really

it's good and it's very interesting and I'm learning a lot like the mom talk stuff like isn't redundant for me because I've never even seen these videos so in between scenes they like add videos of their tiktoks I'm like literally frantically trying to read the captions I like want to see what they're about and like why they have so many views and stuff and i can understand it like they're beautiful women their lives are so interesting and they're creating like fire content that is relatable to a lot of moms it's like wife mom family humor yeah yeah also being like gargi parji yeah people want to watch that yeah they all look so similar and it's also crazy how young they all are. Like I think the oldest one. Oh my God. Mikayla's 23.

Yeah. There's Layla's 22. Oh and that was weird. So she met her husband when she was like 16. And he was like a senior in college. Like if you do the math. He was 24 or something. He was like 21.

And she got pregnant. So they got married. And now they have three kids. I also need them to say with their age how many kids they have. That would just be like useful. So that's your TV recap. So glad we got that off our chest. And that's your show for today.

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