The Toast - The Philadelphia Chips: Tuesday, February 11th, 2025
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Good morning, millennials!
Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday!
My girl is back, she's back to black.
She's in all black living in Florida.
Hey Jax, how ya doing?
Hi Turteloo!
Yes, I'm in all black because I'm wearing a whole new outfit.
I feel brand new.
One, because I'm wearing new clothes, but two, because I'm feeling so much better.
I'm really over the hump of the flu. Like tomorrow, I feel like I'll
feel a hundred percent today. I'm like 95, but no complaints considering where I
came from. And then while I was sick, some clothing deliveries had arrived. I was
finally able to try them on today. I'm obsessed. This is the bodysuit t-shirt I
was telling everyone about. And it's everything and more, like no midriff, no problem.
Isn't it just one of those days
where you're feeling extreme gratitude for your health?
Like little things you used to take for granted,
just like breathing through your nose.
I know, I was thinking about that
because that's always what you say when you're sick.
You're like, I'll never miss breathing through my nose.
No, we really take for granted, like just feeling decent.
For me, what I will appreciate
is just my ability to do things,
like to get things done, to stand up, to cook,
to just like have a little bit of strength.
Like I will not take that for granted.
And sometimes when I'm feeling like good, AKA normal,
I'm just like acknowledge the space.
Cause you know me, I'm always like bogged down by something,
migraine, whatever it is.
Acknowledge the space. So when something's not always like bogged down by something migraine whatever it is knowledge the space
So when something's not ailing me like it's so pargy
Mm-hmm, and we have to ATS
Speaking of cooking just quick segue. I spent all
Day in the kitchen yesterday making muffins, but mostly making content for the patreon Jackie this fab
Title for a new series. We're gonna start calling Barefoot Conterti.
As you guys know, I've actually never successfully
cooked something in my life to completion,
even if it's edible, which most of the time it's not.
It's never right, it's never right.
It's so crazy, and you'll follow a recipe
and you'll give it your all
and something goes so terribly wrong.
Yeah, so in sort of in my nesting journey,
but also I was just being like,
really, really I've been craving a chocolate chip muffin
for the last couple of days and I bought all the ingredients
and Jackie was like, you should vlog it.
And I knew that if I vlogged it,
I would have to make the muffins right.
So it was almost like an impetus for me
to get the muffins correct.
It was so funny.
I cooked them for me and Ben.
The vlog is up on Patreon now.
I don't wanna spoil how the muffins turned out.
So you'll just have to tune in to find out.
But all's left to say,
I had one for breakfast this morning.
That bodes well.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm like kind of loving this new show.
The Barefoot Conterti.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It kind of sounds like Spanish.
Like I'm barefoot cone-tirty.
Right, with-tirty.
But then us real ones know,
like you're not the barefoot contessa. I'm the barefoot cone turdy. With turdy, but then us real ones know, like you're not the barefoot cone tessa.
I'm the barefoot cone turdy.
It was honestly like,
I thought it was maybe gonna be like a one-off vlog,
but then Jackie came up with this fabulous series
and it's giving quarterly installment.
It's totally giving series regular.
People are loving it.
Like they're saying I'm the most amazing chef.
Like I'm literally made for the Food Network.
I think BSC should watch his fucking back.
Do you think he's quaking a little bit?
A little bit quake?
So I made 12 muffins, 12.
Now I have to be honest, I gave one to our dog walker
because I had so many.
So let's say I had 11.
Do you give one to Olive and Butters?
No, no, no, no, they're chocolate Jackie.
I had 11 muff You went to olive and butters? No, no, no, no, they're chocolate jaggy. I had 11 muffins, okay?
As of this morning, there were three left.
And Ben, we tried to do the math last night,
it was like hard because we were like picking at them.
Ben ate about, in one day, seven muffins.
And this is also a person who actually just started
Monjaro the week before.
So it's kind of-
Imagine how many would have eaten.
It was kind of a test of the efficacy of Manjaro
in which it failed.
Why you could have eaten all of them?
He basically did.
I don't get any.
Like I had like one and a half
and then I had another one this morning.
So we have two left.
So is he more so quaking that you're like coming
for his culinary throne or that like you're bringing
all this talent into the house and he's
going to be eating more. No, I don't think he really cares more about like even having competition in
terms of in the kitchen because Ben is going to be a better cook than me till the day I could practice
every day for the rest of my life. I think it's more so about like having like another culinary
creator. Just having a lot of food. Oh, you mean the content. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I meant.
It's all one in this.
Yeah.
And I was just kind of thinking,
because like baking muffins
is such like a comfort creator thing to do, right?
Like your favorite YouTubers just like make muffins,
but there was absolutely nothing comforting about my video.
Like it was just, we were on edge.
It was really chaotic.
So I was kind of giving,
like some people are comfort creators
and I realized I'm a chaos creator.
You're the anti-comfort creator.
You're like the influence.
Yep.
Chaos creator.
I love that.
And I feel like you like chaos creation.
Like MOOC bonds.
I do, I do.
Are chaos creations.
Except let me tell you, baking,
and it took a long time because I was being really thorough.
My back will never recover.
Like I almost pulled up a bar stool to finish cooking.
Like my back was killing me.
Not for the faint of heart.
It's a flaw in the system
that you really can't sit while you cook.
Now I understand like in my big fat Greek wedding
when she's always like sitting at a bar stool
by the kitchen sink peeling potatoes,
especially potatoes hovering over a kitchen garbage.
It's backbreaking work.
Yeah, that's one where you could kind of schedule a break,
but not even, they should make some sort of contraption.
Like, cause if you're over the stove, like you cannot sit.
They should make a something.
I was also waiting to post the vlogs to see like people
telling me, attorney, you did this wrong, you know?
And for the most part, nobody said that,
although there is a conspiracy theory,
cause I was having a really hard time telling a part,
like which was the flour, which was the salt,
which was the sugar.
Cause I put them all in these stupid,
like aesthetic containers and I didn't label them.
So I knew the flour, like the flour is so easy
because it's like, but the sugar and the salt,
I was like, I don't know,
they're really like giving such similar energy.
And then somebody made the amazing point
that I might've actually instead of sugar
used protein powder.
A couple of people, that's like a running theory
amongst the community.
They're protein muffins.
I know, because they did taste like a little healthy,
in which case then I made sugar-free muffins.
But how did you use protein powder?
Like in your house, they're in fancy aesthetic containers?
You know, a couple of months ago, like right,
not right after, but after I found out I was pregnant
before I could tell people,
I was like feeling like doing projects around the house.
Like I was really feeling like I need to, I was feeling like doing projects around the house.
I was really feeling like I need to make my home.
Yeah.
And one of the things I did, and this was months ago,
was me and Ben went to Bloomingdale's.
We bought all new pots and pans, new knives.
We really wanted the kitchen to be part of.
We cleaned out all the cabinets.
And one of the things I did was buy those, you know.
Oxo containers.
Oxo containers.
And I just put, I don't even remember what I put in there.
And I didn't label it.
So it's entirely possible. I made either salt muffins, protein powder muffins, or sugar muffins. I don't even remember what I put in there and I didn't label it. So it's entirely possible.
I made like either salt muffins,
protein powder muffins or sugar muffins.
I don't know.
Salt muffins, love.
Yeah, salt muffins.
Love ya salt muffins.
It's Tuesday, I meant to tell you,
you know we have dear toasters today.
I know.
They're really good.
We're kind of wearing like complimentary outfits.
Not complimentary, what's the word?
Like I should be wearing your outfit
and you should be wearing mine.
Totally, yours is so mean.
This is so you, but Clev, you can't see,
but these are barrel jeans.
Oh my God.
I got barrel jeans.
You'll see on my Instagram stories, check me out later.
They're so sickening.
Barrelina Farms.
I look so awesome.
Oh my, you do look great.
No, you can't even, I don't even need comments
because I know you can't really see me
and you can't appreciate the barrel nature of my outfit,
but I'm a barrel chested freedom fighter, okay?
Oh my God.
I was actually thinking this morning
about Jersey Shore as a concept
because Ben weirdly came in and was like,
G unit. And I was like, G-Unit.
And I was like, what are you talking about?
Then we just went down a rabbit hole of that band
that 50 Cent was a part of.
But when I think of G-Unit, I think of Unit.
And I think of that guy from Jersey Shore
who was Mike's friend and kept,
and Snooki didn't want him to come
because he knew Snooki's being bad secret.
Oh, and I feel like as a culture,
we don't talk enough about that conspiracy theory
that Mike had started, that him and Snooki slept together while she was with Gianni.
Like he was telling the truth.
Probably, but that's none of our business.
100%, 100%, but like she was, like we wrote for her so,
America wrote for her so hard that like we didn't care
about the validity of the statement.
No, and I don't even remember this time,
but you telling it to me now,
it's like, I don't care if they did or they didn't.
It's not about like Mike being a liar.
It's about Mike being a shit starter.
Yeah, no, he like tortured her with it,
like over two years with like whispering in her ear
and like just like threatened to release the tapes.
There weren't tapes, you know what I mean.
And unit was there.
Remember that was like Mike's friend
who like really knew the truth.
I was just thinking about that this morning.
Those are the days.
Those were the days.
But I have just one thing more to say about my barrel pants.
Yeah, please bring it back.
I actually don't think I look that much different to myself
because I always judge like how different my outfits are
based on Zach's reaction.
Like the one time I wore those jeans and a T-shirt,
like he literally dropped to the floor in the kitchen.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He like literally was like, can I have a hug?
Like he was like, who is this person?
Oh my god, he wanted a hug.
It's giving Steven.
I was being Stefania.
Sometimes you just walk into your house a different person
and you're no longer Jackie or Sarah.
Stefania.
Yes, Stefania.
No, I have this joke with my college friends.
Oh wow.
Whenever I would like dress normal like that, like so I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt like that, they would call me Jackie Cohen, like just like dress normal like that,
like so I'm wearing jeans and t-shirt like that,
they would call me Jackie Cohen,
like just like a normal girl.
Oh, and you have to know like when Jackie was in college,
she like, of course you still use fashion
to express yourself, but you were really,
you were really like into kawaii fashion,
bright colors, like very out there.
Yeah, no, every day was a costume party.
You guys can't even picture it.
You can't even picture the stuff, Jackie.
You should do like a little collage
on your Instagram story today
of some of the crazy, wacky outfits
that you used to wear in college.
It was a form of self-expression and you looked super cute.
But so the joke was even funnier
because you were such a crazy dresser.
Literally, I would never have worn
just like jeans and a T-shirt.
And if I did, like I was being Jackie Cohen.
So now- That's funny.
I didn't know that you had like a little joke
with your friends, wow. Yeah, when I posted my jeans and a T-shirt That's funny. I didn't know that you had like a little joke with your friends. Wow.
Yeah, when I posted my jeans in a t-shirt the other day,
I was like, this is so not a me outfit.
My friend Sam commented.
She was like, it's so Jackie Cohen.
I love that.
Like sometimes I just like, be like, be normal.
Just like be Jackie Cohen.
I'm like, I can't.
It's so hard.
It's so hard.
Anyways, my husband walked into the kitchen this morning.
I was about to film him
cause I wanted to like get on camera his reaction
walk right past me.
So we're good.
I'm not that changed.
I'm still me.
Oh, okay.
Stefania can like remain at bay.
I'm not Stefania.
Yeah.
Oh, but that's so funny.
What was I gonna say?
We have dear toasters.
What are the stories like today?
They're good.
I don't think there's anything like
that you haven't heard of yet,
but we're gonna discuss a lot of things. A lot of things need to be discussed by the stories like today? They're good. I don't think there's anything like that you haven't heard of yet, but we're gonna discuss a lot of things.
A lot of things need to be discussed by the stories.
Everyone's loving our Super Bowl recap.
Like they said, we love it so much.
This is the best, most like amazing thing we've ever heard.
Classic.
Like it was.
Yeah, that was fun.
It was, good times.
Yesterday, good times.
No, it's so fun to like really all be talking
about the same thing.
Yeah, now we're all gonna split off
into our different quarters of the internet.
But we were all together for a time.
For a moment in time.
And that's why it's like even sadder
that the chiefs fucking stunk
because we all came together for you guys.
Like we were all rooting for your game.
Not even, I know people rooting for the Eagles,
people, we were all rooting for the game.
They couldn't even get us the game,
but whatever, it's fine, I'm gonna go. Wait, we were getting lots of Eagles hate yesterday rooting for the game. They couldn't even get us the game, but whatever it's fine.
I'm gonna go.
Wait, we were getting lots of eagles hate yesterday
being like you guys can't even.
And what did we say?
I think because we were making so much
of the fact that the chiefs played so badly
that it almost sounded like we were saying
the eagles won because the chiefs like stunk so hard.
They wanted us to acknowledge
how fantastically the eagles played.
And that- Did we not?
We said like it was, and I even said like,
I thought that they were only winning like
against the commanders because they were playing
like a team of deaf, dumb and blind.
But it turns out like they're actually a skilled team.
Like I didn't understand where the hate was coming from.
But I guess like even in what you just said,
like there's a backhanded compliment turns out like-
No, I'm saying I was wrong.
Right and they just like one acknowledgement
that the Eagles have been amazing all season,
that they've slayed all season.
And the Chiefs actually keep winning.
And then if you really want to go down what they're saying,
it's that the Chiefs like one,
they've kind of eeked out everyone this season,
like by the hair of their chinny chin chin.
And that this is where it gets crazy.
The refs.
And I cannot speak to this.
Like I just got into football.
Like I am years away from criticizing the refs.
I'm not gonna say the entire chief season
was like a hoodwink scam.
Like that's rude.
They literally were almost undefeated.
So I'm not saying that,
but I'm saying like good job to the Eagles.
They played better and they won.
They were the better team.
I said that yesterday and I was like, I've seen, oh my God, like the girls look good job to the Eagles. They played better and they won. They were the better team. I said that yesterday and I was like, I've seen,
oh my God, like the girls look so dumb about the Eagles.
Like we were on your side and people be like,
I can't believe they were rooting.
I wasn't even rooting for any team in particular.
I was like, are we watching the same episode of the toast?
I know, I think just for them,
it's like they were the better team,
but it's like the other team was barely a team.
So it's like, we didn't say enough good things
about the Eagles.
I think that's how they felt. I think honestly it's giving chip. I think the Eagles have a team. So it's like, we didn't say enough good things about the Eagles. I think that's how they felt.
I think honestly, it's giving chip.
I think the Eagles have a chip.
I think they would admit that.
It's giving chip.
Like seriously, leave me out of your drama.
Go to therapy.
As those with a chip, like I see your chip.
We see them at the meetings.
Yeah, where like we get chips
for how long we've had a chip.
Literally.
I see your chip and you know what? It is kind of annoying to hear about.
Maybe we'll stop.
We've been really good about our chip.
Do you agree?
I have, yeah.
I feel like we actually haven't even talked about our chip
in this new studio.
Yeah, like if you're a new listener,
you don't even know what we were talking about.
And let me just tell you briefly.
Jackie and I just had like a chip on our shoulder
about like our whole career.
And who doesn't by the way?
No, there are people who couldn't possibly.
Yeah, no, like we just feel like we work really hard.
We get so much hate.
We just get like so overlooked.
We get so overlooked.
We are constantly being overlooked.
And we have a chip about it and it comes up sometimes.
Sometimes it also is a chip that comes in the shape
of a Kelly Clarkson, it's a Kelly Clarkson sized chip
because she hasn't come on the toast.
Oh yeah, like, and if we were any other people
who are like top podcasts obsessed with Kelly Clarkson,
they'd be banging down our door to have her on.
Like it's so weird.
It's so true now chip, okay chip.
The chip is so real.
What I will also say about the chip is that
it propels us towards greatness.
Like we are constantly fighting against the chip
and that is what makes us great.
And I feel the same about the Eagles.
Like I think we actually have more in common.
We're more similar than we are different.
And I think some of the people I admire most in this world
have slash had chips.
1000%.
Nobody had a bigger chip on her shoulder than Joan Rivers.
Like nobody was more overlooked.
Nobody was more kind of sidelined by the industry.
You know what else I feel has a chip and rightfully so
because she does not even get half the credit
she deserves for her talent.
Who?
I feel like you know what I'm gonna say, come on.
For her talent.
Yeah, and she's actually been on this show.
Somewhat recently. She's our queen. We're always saying how she's actually been on this show. Somewhat recently.
She's our queen.
We're always saying how she's like-
Kiki Palmer.
Kiki Palmer definitely has a chip on her shoulder.
100%.
And she should because the industry,
and she gets a lot of opportunities,
but it's not enough for her level of talent.
Yep, agreed.
Like remember when Tiffany Haddish had this huge moment,
like she was in a movie and then like it literally spiraled
her entire career off of this one.
Where's that moment for Keke Palmer?
It hasn't happened yet.
Yeah, even though like at every turn she is so worthy.
Correct, so her chip warranted.
Ours 1000%.
And then like when I think of people,
I'm gonna text you someone's name of like the anti-chip.
Like someone.
Oh girl, I know what you're gonna say
before you even say it.
Wait, do you?
Yeah.
And this is like, and it's not shade to this person.
It's like, we'll never know what it's like in this world.
Yeah, but I wasn't thinking for you were thinking.
Okay, text me.
Cause there are people who just like blow up.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No chip.
Whether it's like online and acting and singing
and just like get like their career goes as it should.
Yeah.
There's no roadblocks.
There's no chips.
They're just like, yeah, you should host the VMAs.
Like it's, it's kind of a chippy industry.
But I don't want to go down the chip.
If you're new here, we have a chip
and it informs what we do for good and for bad,
but mostly for good.
Honestly, if you really want to get into the symbolism
of the frames, representative of the chips.
But Jackie, they are physically on our shoulders.
We should tape a potato chip in the middle.
Everyone wants them to be filled, the frames.
There you go.
One big delay.
Hot glue gun.
Like the banana.
I hate to cut this short, the pre-Fast Five banner,
because you know it's the highlight of my day.
Just cut me off, yeah.
But we have a lot to do.
We have Dear Toasters, we have the Fast Five,
and I just wanted to make you aware
that we're approaching 20 minutes.
Okay, so I guess, I mean, it's time,
and you've said it, sister, you know?
I don't wanna start drama, obviously.
You don't?
I just wanted you to know.
No, I don't wanna start drama.
I'm not looking for, I'm not in like a drama era of my life. No, I don't wanna start drama. I'm not looking for,
I'm not in like a drama era of my life.
Yeah, that's good.
I'm like looking for peace.
I love that.
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Our first story, Jason Kelsey is having a tough time
processing the Eagles win with Travis's loss
after the Super Bowl blowout.
So Jason Kelsey has finally put out a statement.
Not finally, I mean, yeah.
I wasn't waiting.
I wasn't waiting, but yeah,
I do wonder how he feels about the win.
And I guess if you were really paying attention,
there was like a little bit of drama.
Yeah.
Because their podcast page had put out
like a congrats Eagles thing.
Yeah, put out a congrats Eagles graphic
and then they took it down.
I think people thought they took it down
because it was like disrespectful to Travis.
But then Jason clarified that he asked him to take it down
because it was like, and I guess, yeah,
it was a lot of pictures of him and different Eagles players.
And then there was a quote.
It's giving, hey, look at me.
There was a quote about how like so many of the Eagles players
feels like family to Jason and then like, congrats Eagles.
So it was very like Jason centric.
And he was like, I didn't win the Super Bowl.
Like it's a weird thing to post.
I just want to say, I think it's weird too.
Um, not even because of the reasons Jason stated because your cohost lost.
And it's not like Jason played.
He didn't.
So I think it's weird.
Yeah, they could have just sat it out, but I also understand why Jason wanted them to
take it down.
I don't think it had to do with congratulating the Eagles.
I think it was also, it was just like self-promotional.
No, I think his reasons are valid.
The reason I personally, as a human being, like my experience thinking it was weird is
because like literary Travis is the cohost and the star of the show and he lost the Super
Bowl.
And the other star slash cohost didn't even play.
But the Eagles are a big part of their.
Now I get it.
I get it.
And let me just say Jason's like a bigger man than me, obviously in a physical sense,
but also because it's really nice
that he's so happy for the Eagles,
but like I would be annoyed
like the year I leave, we finally win.
Like, well, that's the most annoying part,
but this is what he said.
He said, congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles,
my former teammates and friends
on being Super Bowl Licks champions.
There were a lot of emotions last night.
And now that I've collected my thoughts,
I'll attempt to share them in the longest tweet ever.
The game was odd for me to watch if I'm
being completely honest. I knew it was gonna be mixed emotions before, during,
and after and I now know what my parents had to deal with two years ago. On the
one hand, I wanted what is best for my brother and to see his success and on
the other hand, there are so many people, teammates, and coaches in the Philadelphia
Eagles organization that I care deeply about, many of whom I owe my success to
throughout my career. I'm very proud for Jalen Hurts, Nick Santini,
and this entire team.
They have persevered greatly,
answered their critics amazingly,
improved themselves undoubtedly
to be the best team this season, et cetera, et cetera.
As for my brother, there isn't a person I love
or care about more.
It has been tough to process these feelings,
but of course I feel for him,
and I'm always rooting for him,
but I know he does not need nor want my pity.
He is a mass greatness few on this planet
could ever dream of as has his team
and they should feel pride in their accomplishments
this season and in the past.
I know right now they're still thinking of that last night
and the shortcomings in the last game,
but in time that will fade and the greatness
they've exhibited as a group will remain
as one of the most dominant arrows of football ever.
So first of all, it was giving the vibes
like Travis is retiring, no?
Well, the field playing was giving the vibes
that Travis was retiring.
Well, of course, of course, the lack of talent.
Yes.
The ball on the floor.
Can I say something like safe space?
Yes, Turtee.
Even though I'm so not in the mood
for like anybody to backlash me, but whatever.
She wanted peace.
Right, but I have to speak my truth.
And that's kind of the line that I'm constantly walking.
Speaking your truth.
And walking in your own light.
That's peace.
So during the week leading up to the Super Bowl,
when there were all those press conferences
and we were making fun of all the questions
that he was being asked,
like a lot of the questions that were like normal questions
were about his family.
What are they gonna wear?
What is your mom gonna do?
Is she gonna wear like the eagle split jersey?
And Travis was like, you guys, like, no,
I'm the only one playing.
Like I am, my team, my family's rooting for me.
And I thought the questions were like really extreme
and weird and I was like kind of feeling justice for Travis.
But now, and I understand like Kylie Kelsey is like
so loyal to Philadelphia, like she'll never wear another color ever.
Like I get it.
That's your fucking family out on the field.
Like maybe I can't relate because I don't feel that way about any particular sports
team, but like we're, I just want to say we're bordering on disrespectful.
Like you can have respect for your team, Jason, and respect from your hometown.
But like your family is like out here trying to accomplish something great.
And the fact that like it's even a question,
like people are doubting who they're rooting for.
Like, I don't know.
I just, I know this is going to sound really crazy.
I feel like they could have been a little bit more supportive.
Maybe that's what he was feeling.
And Donna, by the way, wore all red.
And the question when he, when, when he was asked
if his mom was going to wear the same split Jersey
Eagles Chiefs, he was like, why?
That's crazy for Donna.
But I just feel like there was like a lot of doubt
in people's minds, especially for like Jason and Kylie
and just like the family in general,
like what are they gonna do?
They love the Eagles.
It's like, they love the Eagles
when Jason was playing there, but he's not.
I think it's really hard for us to understand.
I think so too.
Like I think we can't put ourselves in those shoes.
I think for Jason, it's like, yes,
his brother's on one team rooting for him,
but on this other side are people that not,
they're not his brothers, but like very, very close.
Like there is joy in seeing them win.
Of course.
I think if he could have chosen, he wouldn't say,
I don't think he would have answered this question of who,
maybe he did, but it was of course, be Travis.
You think?
I'm not getting that vibe.
Yes, I think.
Did anybody ask Jason who's he rooting for?
I think if they did,
we wouldn't have gotten a straight answer.
Yeah, but I think like the correct answer is Travis.
However, like it's a very, you know,
the Eagles are right behind because like the coaches,
those are people who
he wants to see succeed.
And like the amount of work that goes into being on a team,
this was the only team he ever played for.
Like this is his, it's different than people
who like bounce around.
That part of like the brotherhood,
we could never understand.
No, I just, I'm trying to put myself in Travis's spot
and like, I'm mad at my family.
Yeah, blame it on your family.
Yeah.
I didn't get enough support.
Yeah.
And I understand that we'll never understand
and I do, I get what he's saying,
but I just feel like the whole time,
before we knew who won,
there's just been this underlying weirdness
about who they're gonna root for.
When at the end of the day, like,
yeah, we could talk about it,
but you're obviously rooting for your family.
I didn't feel like they led with that enough.
That's the hot take for the day.
I didn't see, I didn't see that so much, so I can't say,
but if that's what was going on,
like, yes, of course we're rooting for Travis.
Like, yeah, we'll find joy in if the Eagles win
because it'll be good for our friends, but.
Of course. We're rooting for uncle Travi.
And I can't believe I haven't saying this yet.
And it's-
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad my Travi made it to the big game.
One step closer to Kelsey being my last name.
Wait, I think I should record Toast theme song.
Theme song today. Cause that was pretty parge.
Dial up Curtis, the producer, get him on the drum.
Cause if you play like you in worthy,
you can call me Mrs. Taylor Purdy.
The only thing is that the theme song,
it's actually a little out of my range.
It was pretty high key, high pitch, excuse me.
So.
Japan for a man who ain't worthy.
So dirty.
During the Super Bowl,
I was actually just like humming that song, like, you know?
And Ben was like, is that a real song?
And I was like, yeah.
And you played a prank, of course.
And you, did you play for him?
I played a prank.
No, I didn't even play for him.
I was just like,
cause I think he was really believing me
cause I kept coming up with new lyrics.
Right, right.
And I stopped at the purdy one
cause that would, that he would know it was a joke.
I was like, I'm so glad my Travi made it to the big game.
He was like, is that a real song?
I'm like, what do you mean?
Yeah, one step closer to Kelsey being my last name.
He was like, no way.
And then I kept coming up, if you play like you ain't worthy.
He was like, wow.
And so I let it sit for a couple of minutes
and then I told him it was a joke.
You should have kept going.
Because I don't want him walking out into the world
like an idiot, you know?
I know, but you should have.
I can have my fun, but I can't take it to the park.
You should have just like teased the Purdy line
and like see, saw his reaction.
And you, like if you're going to tell him eventually,
maybe he would figure it out.
Yeah.
But let him think for one second.
That it was real.
You can call me Mrs. Tele-Purdy.
You can call me Mrs. Turdy Purdy.
I literally need to record something today.
My voice like is a-
Get on the horn.
I'm gonna get on the horn.
I recorded, I forgot to share on Friday after the toast.
It sounded cartilaginous.
I took Jackie's recording session cause she was sick.
So I laid down my vocals first,
which our producer said was probably better.
And I did the first take and he was like,
well, we've got it.
We'll just do a couple of more for safety.
But like you kind of crushed it turd.
That's what he said.
So, and then we got-
Did he say Claudia, that's beautiful?
Pretty much.
So we now have a version of just my vocals.
We're gonna wait, obviously we're gonna overlay Jackie's
but I'll hold that version very near and dear to my heart.
Are you ready for our next story?
Speaking of Pargy vocals.
Yeah.
Sabrina Carpenter is on the cover of Vogue.
This is amazing.
Like this is, to be on the cover of Vogue
is actually such a crazy thing.
When you think of all the famous people in the world
who haven't been on it, it's like a real special tier.
It couldn't be happening at a better time for her.
She just snatched up a couple of Grammys.
She looked absolutely gorgeous.
And I feel like Vogue is always trying to like do something
like edgy and whatever,
but they really stuck with her aesthetic, very on brand,
very Marilyn Monroe, feathery, feminine.
It was beautiful.
I was shocked.
I wasn't expecting this.
I would have thought that Vogue thought they were like,
it was too soon for Sabrina.
You know, they're never on the cutting edge.
They're always a little late to the trends.
I was so happy for her.
Like, queen.
Yeah, this is major.
So the cover and the cover story have dropped.
The pictures are beautiful.
She's on the cover of the March issue of Vogue.
And yeah, the photos are very Marilyn Monroe inspired. She's on the cover of the March issue of Vogue.
And yeah, the photos are very Marilyn Monroe inspired.
She's talking about her career.
She made mention of skin, just wanna say.
What did she say?
She said that when she-
Do you have a Google alert for skin by Sabrina Carpenter?
No, but our Gen Z intern gave me a little heads up.
That's really big.
Promotion.
She said that she never planned to release it.
Like it was a song that she wrote
to like get her feelings out as artists do.
And then she did release it.
But like when she was writing it,
it was just meant for her to like heal.
I wanna say something about the whole song.
And I agree with you, like skin is a good song.
It's not, it didn't shake the world up,
but it's a good song, lyrically, melodically.
But I do think the, and I don't, I'm not,
I don't have any regrets about how everything shook out
for both of the girls.
Like, they're really both killing it.
But I do wonder, like, how this whole saga
would have shaken out if the song that Sabrina released in response
to all the drama wasn't Skin,
it was All Because I Like to Boy,
which is another song of hers
that directly addresses the drama,
but it's much more popular than Skin.
And it was one of the couple of songs
from that previous album that launched her
into the short and sweet era that people really liked.
It's a really good song and it's very directly addressing.
I got death threats, death threats, filling up semi trucks.
Tell me who I am, cause I don't have a choice.
All because I liked a boy.
And all of this for what?
When everything went down, we'd already broken up.
Like so good, so direct.
And like, I think it might've,
I'm not mad about how anything shook out.
She just won Grammys.
Like maybe she would've released that song
and then gone nowhere.
But I do wonder, like,
I would love to see an alternate universe.
Like what would have happened if she did that?
And the song wasn't written yet, but.
Yeah, I wonder how long after,
till she got to that place of like writing that song.
And that's how she felt.
Cause she couldn't like not respond for that long.
So I don't, I wonder like,
if she wrote them at the same time yet,
then maybe we could-
If she had it in the arsenal and just chose skin.
Yeah.
Instead.
I wonder, I don't know,
but I liked skin because it wasn't like the chip.
I feel like all because I liked the boys
more like coming at like from it.
Serious? No, like a victim, like everybody eats meal because that
whereas skin was like, like kind of tough.
And I liked that response.
Yeah.
I was getting like, Oh, you're jealous of me.
You should be.
I'm second to stick.
Yeah. Like I just, I thought it was just like a strong
response as opposed to, Oh, cause I like to boy,
everybody hates me.
That's actually a really good point.
I didn't realize-
But maybe the world's-
That's sort of you.
By the way, like the reason why you love skin is
because like the message was very like not victim-y
and not like steamrolled, just like,
yeah, I stole your man, what are you gonna do about it?
And I'm loving every minute.
Like that, and now knowing from that other song,
when everything went down, we'd already broken up.
So she wasn't even with this guy.
So she didn't even feel the need to defend him.
But she still wanted to lead with like, yeah, jealous.
Yeah, so, but I agree with you
that maybe the world would have received it better
if she came out with like,
Yes, people love a victim.
They love a victim.
So yeah, actually I think that it probably
would have played better, but for me-
But everything worked out in the way that it was meant to.
But for a while Sabrina took a big L.
I respect strength and that's why I respect the Breen.
But until Espresso, Sabrina had been like,
she had taken a big L on the situation.
Nonsense.
Yes, nonsense.
But up until that, there was like a long period of time
where Olivia then went on to like,
Yeah, and Sabrina was left in the dust.
doing like small shows and she was able to really climb
her way out of that, which makes her whole journey
even more impressive.
And I think that's why we love her so much.
We love a Phoenix who rises from the ashes.
But for a brief period in time when we didn't know
it was gonna go that way, like it was kind of sad.
Yeah, I agree.
That's why it's so impressive.
And I'm sorry, like I will never stop talking
about these two, it's annoying to bring up Olivia
every time you talk about Sabrina.
I'm sorry, I can't.
Although I do wanna say, I think this like massive success
has healed Sabrina, because we always say like,
if that was me, I'm never forgiving.
Sabrina doesn't bring it up.
She doesn't talk about it.
And they were seen like hugging at the Grammys.
I actually think like getting all this success
and recognition made the whole situation
like kind of worth it.
Yes, worth it.
I don't think she's over it.
I don't, I think she'll like, that's her Roman empire.
And it's not, it's been a few years.
It's her chip.
Yeah, 100%.
And she'll hug her at the Grammys
because she doesn't wanna, that would look bad.
People don't like that.
But the North remembers.
It's so true.
I'm still here.
I'm still at the restaurant.
Just collecting on her pinned up hair.
Her hair is always pinned up.
Right, that's about her.
You know how they always say,
if you could be,
I would love to have been a fly on the wall
in the Silage elevator, right?
I would love to have an off the record,
truly open and honest conversation.
I would never tell anybody what she said,
just for my own personal curiosity,
with Sabrina Carpenter about that whole saga.
Okay, but if you could have one open
and honest conversation with any celebrity.
Oh, oh.
Yeah.
Oh no, that's not even like top five.
Actually, it might be top five.
Yeah, but who's number one?
But I don't know.
Do I only get to cover one subject
or like their entire career?
Like Taylor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't even know what I would want to ask Taylor.
I would definitely want to ask her about like
the Karlie Kloss of it all.
I would definitely want to ask her.
She actually has like a lot of mysterious corners
of her life.
Yeah.
Cause she's not like the type of celebrity who shares.
Well, all the friendships too.
Haley.
Yep.
Kaylee.
Haley.
I want to know what happened with Haley.
Haley.
Also Zendaya.
Like we all forget,
cause Zendaya went on to do like massive things,
but she was a member of that girl squad for a brief moment.
Yeah.
Kelly, that we were just saying.
Kelly.
Teller.
Kelly Teller.
Yes.
Yes.
Are you ready for our next story?
What number?
Oh yeah, sorry.
Number three.
Pete Davidson strips down to his undies for reformation Our next story. What number? Oh yeah, sorry, no, totally wrong. Number three.
Pete Davidson strips down to his undies for reformation
after his tattoo removal.
So Pete Davidson.
In bigger news,
Tourney Oshre like finally understands
why people find him attractive.
Like I, for the first time,
I'm like, oh, that's a good looking man.
Yeah, but I feel like now he looks different
than when people were finding him attractive.
Watch now, he can't get any girls.
He looks like he's put on a little bit of weight too.
Yeah, he's looking hunky.
Pete Davidson has spent the last several years
removing his nearly 200 tattoos.
And now he's ready to show off his clean slate
just in time for Valentine's Day.
He stars in Reformation's latest campaign,
showing off his buff bod in boxer briefs.
So I guess Reformation has some menswear now
and he is the face.
I find like, I think the fact that he did
like a topless photo shoot to show us his progress
and all the change that he's made,
I think it's really smart.
I don't know why I'm so shocked that it's Reformation.
Not only did I not know they did menswear,
but like, I don't know,
I thought it would have been Calvin Klein.
Like for something of Pete's caliber.
Yeah. I didn't realize Reformation had money like that, honestly.
I didn't either, but I guess everyone wears.
I mean, if you think about it, I feel like they operate.
It's been around forever.
They look like a small business,
but they're like mass consumed.
And they probably have like low overhead
because they act small.
Yeah, and you know all of their dresses are made
from like dirty diapers and plastic bottles.
And I'm sure Taylor wearing the dress to the US Open
was the budget for Pete Davidson's day.
True, true.
I don't know, like if I was Pete,
I just would have wanted a little more
for my comeback photo shoot.
Not that there's anything wrong with Reformation,
but it's not like designer.
I think Calvin Klein would have been,
and I think he's done Calvin Klein before, so.
Or Skims.
Or Skims.
You know, I was watching Kardashians
and Kim was saying, talking about her work ethic,
how she works so much.
And she was actually, cause she's in therapy now,
and so she's like thinking about working less
and questioning why she works so much.
And she says, Courtney was right.
Like I did need to sort of figure out
what was driving me. Wow.
Yeah, like what, why I'm working so much,
like what drives me, whatever.
And she was like, but in the past,
like all I wanted to do is work.
Anybody who tries to tell me to like work less, like get out of my way. And she was like, but in the past, all I wanted to do is work. Anybody who tries to tell me to work less,
get out of my way.
And she was like, I mean, that's what happened with,
and they bleeped out the name.
And I'm pretty sure it was Pete.
I'm pretty sure because she was like,
that's what happened with blank.
He said, why don't you take the week off?
Why do you work so much?
She said, and that was the beginning of the end.
Oh, she's so crazy for that, honestly.
That's nuts.
And she does do too much. My guess, it only really makes sense for Pete. I don't think that's honestly. Like that's nuts. And like she does do too much.
My guess, like it just, it only really makes sense for Pete.
Like I don't think that's why she broke up with Kanye.
Did it also sound like one syllable?
Like you could tell based how long the bleep was.
Yes, it did sound like it's, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Or it was like a nobody, like Dave, you know,
someone we don't know.
Dave, it's always Dave.
Maybe it was Dave.
But anyways, I think Pete Davidson looks great.
I think this is such a good message for young people.
He was on one of the late shows
at talking about the process to remove them.
He's had over 200 tattoos,
like how he obviously regrets them.
And I think people should, when they go to the tattoo salon
should have to watch that interview.
Just think about it twice.
There's nothing wrong with tattoos,
but it's a huge commitment.
I think a lot of people get them done on a whim.
They regret them.
He didn't keep any, not even Kim as my lawyer.
Not the kids' names.
That was really weird.
Right, that was really crazy.
And I think most people have,
actually, I don't know most,
a lot of people have a lot of tattoos, no regrets,
love them all, they all deeply mean something,
but it's a hard thing to regret.
Like there's, it's very hard to come back from.
It's very expensive, it's very painful.
And so I think thinking twice or three times about it
is just a good message.
And if you still want to do it, still do it.
Exactly, like the first time you have an inkling
for a tattoo, make note of it.
Don't run to the store, just jot it down. And then if you keep thinking do it, still do it. Exactly, like the first time you have an inkling for a tattoo, make note of it. Don't run to the store, just jot it down.
And then if you keep thinking about it,
two, three, four times,
then you know that you really want it.
But if you never think about it again,
thank God you didn't get it.
Yeah, yeah.
In the words of Kim Kardashian,
would you put a bumper sticker on a Bentley?
Is that her quote?
I don't know if she coined it,
but she popularized it in that scene
from like OG Keeping Up.
Got it.
Oh no, I'm sorry.
She said it on Letterman.
I think he was asking them if they have tattoos.
Do any of them have tattoos?
They're not like a tattoo family,
except maybe they get like those little ones
on their fingers that celebrities love.
Kylie has.
Yeah?
Yeah, for sure.
She has like on her fingers.
I can so see who Chloe has.
I was gonna say Chloe feels like she might have.
But remember she got Lamar's initials on her finger.
I also feel like I could see her having
like a cross on her ankle.
Yeah, or on like a wrist, a little wrist action.
Yeah.
But I can also see her having some from back in the day.
For sure, for sure.
Yeah.
People forget like Chloe went to prison
for a couple of hours.
Like she's, she's a real one, okay?
Are you ready for our next story?
Yeah. Do you think Chloe actually did go to prison that day
or like for the cameras?
Cause she's, they said she got let out the same day
because of overcrowding.
Yeah. I think that that's what happened.
I don't think they-
Like you think she was in the facility?
Yeah.
That's really crazy. Yeah. But I think the way it went down's what happened. I don't think they- You think she was in the facility? Yeah. That's really crazy.
Yeah, but I think the way it went down is what happened.
Cause I don't think they would just like lie
about how it works.
Yeah, yeah.
And like back in the day, those episodes,
like they were just following them around with cameras.
So like, wasn't so produced.
Highly produced. That's true.
Our fourth story, speaking of reality TV,
coming to podcasting, Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin
are starting a podcast called,
Let's Not Talk About the Husband.
It will be with Dear Media and the first episode
premieres on February 14th, Valentine's Day, pargy.
Let me just say, you know, I'm like,
kind of like a Lisa Rinna hater,
even though I'm kind of reformed.
I hated her character on the show,
but I understand that like she was a necessary sort of evil.
And I do feel like she has all this momentum and fame
and public interest that got kind of stifled
from leaving the show,
because we never got another outlet for it, right?
And so I think there's actually,
I think this is a fabulous idea.
Even though, I don't know if I'm the target demo for it,
people also just love her husband.
It's really so crazy.
I forget what I was watching.
Oh, when we were watching Desperate Housewives,
I was explaining to Ben like how none of these people
were really famous before the show.
The show made them all famous,
except Nicolette Sheridan was very much like
Hollywood royalty, she was married to Harry Hamlin.
And it just reminded me that like,
he's literally so Hollywood.
And he's also like an older gentleman.
So he's like a little old Hollywood too, you know?
Yeah, also they've been together for 30 plus years.
Like that is something that gives you a level of expertise
that and wisdom that you can share with the world.
I also was thinking recently about podcasting
at a glance as you do.
Because-
When you have a chip.
When you have a chip.
No, cause I'm always like watching clips on Instagram
I get like served podcasts I never heard of,
like this or that.
And like, I was like trying to think like,
so many people start a podcast,
but like what makes really a good podcast host?
And like, I think one thing that really makes,
can make someone great amongst other things,
but it's like someone who says like hard truths,
who has like genuine hot takes,
who like, who's like yelling at people almost, you know?
Telling you things you might not wanna hear.
And like, I think Lisa Rinna like has that energy
of just being unapologetic and just saying things
that might not be popular, but are interesting to listen to.
Cause like the people with like the lukewarm
just like circling the drain,
like it's hard to stand out that way.
But I think-
No, that's not why podcasts were created, right?
They're like this sort of renegade medium,
like outside of mainstream.
So that's why so many of the most popular podcasts
are people with like crazy hot takes like Joe Rogan
or like, you know, Tucker Carlson's podcast is huge.
Like when you're kind of like a fringe,
that's what the medium was created for.
So if you're like out here just being like,
hot dogs aren't sandwiches.
Like that's not why people go to podcasts.
Do you know what I mean?
Like it's very much a medium for lightning rods.
There's ways to have success in other ways,
but that is a big vertical.
And I think that she is that.
And so I think that this could really work.
Same, although I do wonder
if it's gonna be a guest-based show.
Cause while I think that she could pull great guests,
she knows a lot of people, him too.
That's where podcasting becomes weird.
When like a really talented person,
a really interesting person is a host
and then is forced to interview other people
and more so listen than talk.
And I actually don't think Lisa Rinna
would be a good interviewer.
That's my only concern.
But if it's just them two going back and forth,
talking about like different relationship things,
parenting, celebrity, working in the industry,
like that's interesting for sure.
Yeah, so this is what the statement says,
after 30 plus years together,
some more fabulous than others,
we've seen a lot and we're ready to dish on everything
from marriage and family to friendships,
business and fame.
So it seems like they will be dishing.
We're talking, whatever we're talking about,
you can be sure it will be unfiltered.
So tune in, cause we're owning it all.
They should also have their girls on.
Their girls are wildly interesting
and also are always making waves.
Yeah.
Especially that Amelia,
she's like in some drama with the Gabriela of it all.
Do you know?
No, that they're twins.
Well, so that's the thing.
Gabriela who's Maddie Healy's fiance,
who's like this very creative, like different, you know.
Amelia, a couple of years ago,
like started to shift her look from like what we knew,
very normal looking, all American commercial vibes
to very high fashion, slicked back,
bleached eyebrows, gap tooth.
And she started to really look like-
She created a gap?
No, but Gabrielle has a gap.
Like that's the vibe I'm saying, like unconventional beauty.
Oh, well, okay, okay.
But she didn't like make a gap. No, she didn't drill a gap. That's the vibe I'm saying, unconventional beauty. Oh, well, okay, okay. But she didn't make a gap.
No, she didn't drill a gap in her teeth, my bad.
And a lot of people started to pick up on the similarities
in the look she ended up creating with Gabrielle
and then a lot of their mannerisms.
So it's kind of an ongoing internet theory
is the Gabrielle versus Amelia of it all.
So take it to the podcast, Amelia, let's hear about it.
Take it to the podcast.
It's always funny when you find someone's inspo, you know?
Yes.
Like Kendall Jenner and Jacey Marie.
No, it's kind of like the chicken and the egg.
Who came first, Paige Lorenz or the other girl?
Totally, or Meghan and the marqueness.
Meghan, no, and the bank, no, she's not a marqueness.
What is she?
Her husband is a marquis.
A marquis.
A marquis, but she, you know, the marqueness of bank. She's a marqueness. Yeah What is she? Her husband is a Marquis. A Marquis. A Marquis.
But she, you know, the Martianess of Bank or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of Bath.
Yeah, of Bath, yeah, Bank.
Yeah, who came first?
The Martianess or Meghan?
Who came first?
Pager Morgz?
Who came first?
Jacey or Kendall?
Who came first?
Gabrielle or Amelia?
That one's pretty well documented.
Right.
And it's Gabrielle.
For most of them, it's a question, I don't think.
Yeah, and I think for like the tennis girls,
it was all like happening at the same time.
So we were like, wait, who came first?
But if you go back, I think it's Paige.
Someone knows.
Yeah, it's well documented.
Yeah, just gotta find out.
It's like all of these is someone's Roman Empire.
Like, you know, people are like obsessed
with these like random, like dual lives.
Yeah, so funny.
For me, like I don't particularly care.
It's more so like,
this is not my Roman Empire,
so I'm having fun, I'm along for the ride.
Yeah, so good luck to our dear media sisters and brothers,
Lisa and Harry.
I think it's fabulous, honestly.
I usually like roll my eyes a little bit
when people like enter the podcasting space
who do other things, but maybe it's
because I liked the title a lot.
But I actually think this is great.
Yeah, no, I think that they've got the stuff.
I think they've got the stuff.
It's a very particular type of stuff.
Just because you're like super famous,
everybody loves you,
doesn't mean you're gonna be a good podcaster.
Who had more eyes on her than Meghan Markle?
Right.
Was not made for podcasting.
It's such a weird niche thing.
And even the most popular podcasters
are like freaks randoms you've never heard of.
Right, and they're not the biggest,
and even the popular celebrity ones,
because there are, it's not the most popular celebrities.
Like even the office ladies,
like they're not the most popular celebrities.
Kim had a podcast, nobody moved.
Right.
A lot of the most famous people in America,
like star podcasts and seriously,
the culture remains unchanged.
Yeah.
Makes you think.
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What?
Yeah, ABC will be skipping this cycle of The Bachelorette.
ABC is pausing its female ed spin-off of The Bachelor, which will be a blow for fans of the long-running dating show series.
The show generally starts production shortly and the last three seasons have aired in July.
The series, however, has not been canceled and will likely come back to Disney's own network
in the future.
It's unlikely to air this year,
but Insiders have not completely rolled out
its return later this year.
It's not entirely clear why this decision has been made,
but it's not without precedent in the Bachelor universe.
Last year, for example,
Bachelor in Paradise didn't air
because Golden Bachelorette happened instead.
But I don't know, skipping the Bachelorette
seems bigger than skipping a paradise.
It does, but also when you think about all the different
brands amongst the Bachelor franchise,
you have the main Bachelor, the Bachelorette,
Bachelor in Paradise and the Golden Bachelorette now.
Golden Bachelorette.
Right, Bachelor and Bachelorette.
I do feel like the female led ones
are probably the lowest rated
because it's more fun to have all the girls
fighting over a guy.
Like girls bring the drama,
girls make it more interesting,
25 girls and one guy.
Like that I'd probably rather watch,
get to know all these like funny, crazy, quirky girls
than 25 guys and one girl.
Like that's boring.
Like trying to be on TV.
Yeah, it's like get a job.
So I could see like the golden Bachelorette
or the Bachelorette being the first to go.
I know they're trying to make it seem like this is all good.
I don't think this is a good sign for a franchise
that in my mind has been dying for years.
Yeah.
But to what end?
Yeah.
It's still decently rated.
You can't just have the bachelor.
No, but I think people really like Bachelor in Paradise.
I think it's still decently rated compared
to like other cable shows,
but we compare it to like what it once was.
So I don't know if it's like a huge flop or a failure.
I don't think it loses money for the network,
but they really need to just shake it up.
It's like the same format, the same dates,
the same thing, like all the time.
When dating shows, are you hearing about Montoya?
Claudia, I keep seeing this everywhere.
What is it? Okay. What show is it from? It's Claudia, I keep seeing this everywhere. What is it?
Okay.
What show is it from?
It's actually, it's a Spanish show.
So I don't know even the name of the show.
Okay, that's what I thought.
But then I saw a bunch of like bar stool people
talking about it.
So I'm like, is this bar stool, you know, their reality show?
Yeah, they have like reality shows.
Oh my God.
I was like, what is this?
It's okay.
It's a, it's temptation Island, which is a US show,
but it's temptation Island, Spain. Okay. And so a couple, it's temptation Island, which is an U S show, but it's temptation Island, Spain.
Okay.
And so a couple of clips from the show, which is like a reality show where they put a bunch
of singles, you know, and actually I think they're couples and it's temptation Island
because you like, you, you watch your partner go into a house and watch them on a TV to
see if they're going to cheat on you.
Very Casa Amor vibes.
Okay.
And there's this couple, the guy's name is Montoya and his girlfriend is like majorly
stepping out
and he's forced to watch it,
like literally watching her have sex.
And like two separate, she had sex with two different people.
And he's like on this, you know, you know,
they sit on like a wooden log in the middle of the woods,
forced to watch on a TV,
and he's having a fucking breakdown.
Like he can't, it's very normal reaction actually
for somebody you love.
The clips went so viral.
And whatever, that's irrelevant.
But what I'm saying is like,
when you think about the landscape
of dating shows right now, like Netflix crushes it.
They had like too hot to handle, Love is Blind.
Love Island.
Love Island, everybody's sort of stepping their pussies up
based off of a concept that The Bachelor created
and they never evolved.
Like it's the same three hour telecast
with the same dates, the same concept, the same everything.
The biggest thing they ever did was when they did
Bachelor in Paradise.
And even that compared to like Love Island, it's still,
it's old, it's boring.
Yeah, but I do think Bachelor in Paradise,
like it's a pretty good answer to Love Island.
It's not good enough sometimes, but it's hard. You can't do think Bachelor in Paradise is a pretty good answer to Love Island. It's not good enough sometimes, but it's hard.
You can't really have Bachelor in Paradise
without the Bachelor and Bachelorette
because you fall in love with these cast members.
You want them to have a second chance at love,
but that is having to watch 50 hours of television
so that you'll be excited for Bachelor in Paradise.
I don't think so.
They make it too hard.
Their focus on the Bachelor
is selling as many commercials as they can.
So if you're gonna commit to watching an episode,
you have to watch three hours.
Plus after the rose, women tell all.
They're really exploiting people's time.
That's why I personally stopped watching it.
I was like, how many hours do I have to watch
just to see who wins?
It's not fun anymore.
For a mid-season episode five, for it to be two hours,
stop.
Agreed.
You want a two hour premiere, a two hour finale,
I'll let you have it, sell your ads.
Episode five, you know, March.
Leave me alone.
Yeah, it's just, they really can't compete.
Like Netflix, like Love is Blind, first of all,
no commercials, and it's so good.
Like even when it's bad.
I have a question.
Shows like that are on Netflix,
that are going straight to Netflix.
Why do they still do commercial breaks?
Like- They fade to black? They fade to black and then they come back that are on Netflix, that are going straight to Netflix, why do they still do commercial breaks? Like, I was just-
They fade to black?
They fade to black and then they come back
and they play what we just saw.
I think it's like, that's actually a good point.
I just think it's like a helpful way
of like making television.
I don't know, to be my-
No, no, I think it's like, I think it's so weird.
It's like, what is this?
It is, it is.
And especially when they repeat the last line
of what we just saw, it's like, wait, I'm right here.
10 seconds ago, I didn't move.
That's actually really true, I don't know. When I ago. I didn't move. That's actually really true.
I don't know.
I was watching Kardashians.
That's what I was like, this is made for Hulu.
Why are you putting in blocks for commercial breaks?
I'm still sitting in the exact same spot I was
when I heard, I didn't move.
And I remember what she said five seconds ago.
Right, they do do that.
Maybe it's like just like this trend in editing.
They can't stop.
That's taking a while to shake.
No one told them like we can stop doing that.
They don't have to do it.
Yeah, they do do that.
I don't know, that's a good point.
So I feel like they can tell us all they want
that this is not like a sign of the times,
but I think it is.
Yeah, I think so too.
They just don't wanna scare people.
So those are the fast five stories.
I hope you're scared.
Wait, why would I be scared? Cause you said they don't wanna scare people, but those are the fast five stories. I hope you're scared. I'm, wait, why would I be scared?
Cause you said they don't want to scare people,
but people should be scared.
Quaking.
I'm shaking in my boots.
It's Tuesday, which means it's dear toasters.
Our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I do our best
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Actually, I'm gonna give you a little bit of a choice today
because I had four submissions that I really, really liked.
But I'll do my favorite first, ready?
Dear Jackie and Claudia, I've got this amazing boyfriend. He's literally perfect, except for one tiny detail. He's blind.
Now here's the twist, because he can't see. He'll sometimes ask me how much I weigh,
and it sends my insecurity levels through the roof. Like, how am I supposed to respond to that?
On one hand, I want to be honest, because well, honesty is the best policy. But on the other hand,
I'm terrified of him judging me, even though he can't see me. Do I lie and keep
the peace or just tell him no and dodge the question altogether? It's also confusing when
your boyfriend can't see you, but somehow still manages to see right through you. Am I an awful
person for even asking this? Love ya. Bye. Ooh, that's so tough. I feel like he might have
legitimate reasons for asking. It's like, he can't see you.
So he just like wants to know.
He doesn't wanna pick you up
if it hurt his back or something.
But it's actually like he can feel you
and he could pick you up.
Like he actually knows what he needs to know,
but I don't know, like maybe he needs this as an aid
just to like understand what his girl looks like.
I feel like anything else, like, yeah,
you could shave a few pounds off.
No, here's the thing. like I wanna help this blind man.
Like I think it's important that we all-
You wanna help him see.
I just wanna help him, whatever he needs.
Like I'm watching the season where Carlos is blind
on Desperate Housewives right now.
And like the way the community really just gets,
you know, they get him a job
and they're always helping him out.
Like it's beautiful.
Like it's being blind, I can't even imagine.
It seriously sounds like the hardest thing on the planet.
So I wanna help this man,
but I just feel like he actually doesn't need to know that.
Like you can really, based on feel, touch,
like you can know what your partner looks like.
Like literally, why does it matter?
I don't know.
Carlos would never, like, cause Gabby was saying,
when Carlos is blind, it's also when they're poor
and then they have kids and Gabby, like, Gabby, she's not her glam self anymore.
She puts on weight.
She looks like a mom, not like that that's bad,
but she's not like a glamazon model anymore.
And she says to Carlos, I'm embarrassed.
Even though you can't see me,
I don't love the way that I look anymore.
I've put on weight.
And Carlos would never ask this question.
You know what I mean?
He loved Gabby so unconditionally.
So I just want not to make the blind man the villain here, but I think it's ask this question. You know what I mean? He loved Gabby so unconditionally. So I just, I just want to not to make the blind man
the villain here, but I think it's a weird question.
Well, I would just ask him like why he wants to know,
because I'm holding space for like,
it's something that blind people need to know,
like in order to orient themselves.
I don't know.
I'm giving him like the benefit of the doubt.
So I would just ask him like,
to what purpose does it serve for you to know?
Like I will tell you,
but I just would love to understand
why that's information that you want.
I just think based on my limited knowledge
of the blind community, which is limited,
I feel like they really learn things by touch,
not by numbers.
Like I just, I think he might have ulterior motives
for asking the question.
Maybe, but remember he's a perfect angel otherwise,
so we're gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah, we are.
We are.
And of course, if you do end up telling him,
like it's-
Minus 15.
Yeah, I was gonna say,
you have at least like a 10 pound grace period.
10 to 15, max, okay?
Max, yeah.
Cause you also like, it's just like when you are on a plane,
like they do need to know for safety purposes,
like you can't really lie.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think he needs to know for safety purposes, but okay. I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he needs to know for safety purposes, but okay.
I don't know.
Like, I don't know because I'm just gonna-
Yeah, I don't know.
Cause he's blind.
So I don't wanna give him like bad information.
Did you hear me?
I'm blind.
I don't wanna give-
What's that from?
It's Will Ferrell.
No, is it?
Is it Anchorman?
Did you hear me?
I'm blind.
We have been saying that all the time.
I have no idea.
That's so funny.
Oh my God, I forgot about that.
What's it from?
Row One.
Row One, what is that?
I've never seen that movie.
Star Wars?
No.
It's not from Star Wars.
It's Will Ferrell.
Maybe he's standing in the ocean saying it.
It's Anchorman 2.
Anchorman 2, yeah.
He loses his vision and then he makes it everyone's problem.
He's standing in the ocean,
did you hear me?
I'm blind.
I'm not really lying to her fucking with
the P. John blind guy.
I know, I know, I know.
And this is my dear toaster's toxic trait
where like I want to see like the partner,
especially the man in the relationship
like is always being the villain or gay.
So yeah, like I'm projecting here.
Yeah, like I just feel like he might need to know.
It's like you wouldn't tell him something is 50 feet away
if it's 20 feet away.
Right, like we're at a cliff, like important information.
Right, so like, give him the benefit of the doubt.
Alright, next up, we've got a little weird mother behavior.
Hey Jackson Turdy, a text from my boyfriend
of one year's mom, she typed that really weird,
so she has a boyfriend of one year.
And a text popped up on his phone from his mom
and he was sleeping.
So she opened it and began scrolling through the messages,
which is really crazy.
And she found texts.
I'm looking for trouble.
I find texts from her to him talking very intimately
about our sex life.
Things like me coming, how enjoyable it is for a man
to see as a woman climax, me being less experienced
than him and so much more.
I am so upset and I haven't said anything to him
about it yet, I feel so uncomfortable.
I fear the next time I see her,
I'm not one who talks openly about sex or very freely,
but maybe with friends, definitely not with my mom.
The whole thing has really given me such a pit.
So there's like a lot of layers here.
Like obviously it's the betrayal
of like something intimate
between you two, but also like we need to talk about
like the mental illness that is like talking about
climaxing with your mother.
Like I know, and first of all,
it's different when it's a son and his mom,
but I think even like girls who tell their mom
like things about sex is less weird,
but they don't even go into this much detail.
Like this is really fucking like serial killer ass behavior.
I don't know what I would be, like I feel you.
Like what are you more angry about?
The betrayal or are we concerned?
Like I'm concerned actually, that's bothering me more.
This is like so weird and these like,
this is this relationship will be a part of your life for so long.
I wonder what she does for work though,
because I could see a scenario.
The mom.
The mom, I could see a scenario where she is either
a sex therapist, some sort of therapist,
maybe even a gynecologist, something.
I do feel like the toaster would have included that.
But I could see a mom like that being very involved
in her son's sex life.
And yeah, it's like not ideal,
but it's like, that's just how we are.
And like, you don't have to break up with him over it.
It's just like a crazy fact about your in-laws,
your macha t'anum sista.
Okay, so it's literally the episode of Sex in the City
where Carrie's dating that writer
who prematurely ejaculates.
I think he's played by Justin Theroux.
And he comes from like this really like big family
of intellects and the dad is a professor at Yale or Columbia.
And the mom is this,
I think she's like a sex therapist type of thing.
So she knows about the son's premature ejaculation
and she wants to talk about it with Carrie.
And Carrie's like, no, it's less weird
because she is this like very like, you know,
but I do think the toaster would have written in
if there was even a remote pertinence
to this woman's line of work.
Like let's just say she works in sales, okay?
Okay, I don't know.
Maybe she has like a side hustle of like women's health.
I think if you can look at it from that angle
where it's like she's interested.
It's weird.
In the vagina.
Just, and you're like in the woo woo family.
Listen, Claudia, if she loves him
and she wants to make it work,
like some things you just have to accept.
Well, also the problem is, is like when you go snooping,
how to get this stuff brought up,
like how can you bring it up to him?
Yeah, cause it's not like he's coming to you
and being like, my mom says that you should try this.
Like-
How would you know this?
It's illegally obtained information.
It's not admissible in a court of law.
It's inadmissible.
That's tough.
But also I'm glad you snooped.
Usually like snooping,
you're gonna find information you don't want.
And while like you didn't wanna know this,
this really isn't something that can go on forever.
It's really fucking weird.
And honestly, this is something that would just like
give me the ick to a person.
Like I don't care how PJ I'm your boyfriend is.
Like you're talking about orgasming with your mom.
Like, ew, you're ugly to me now.
You know what I mean?
I do know what you mean, but I just, I wanna help her.
I know.
I just wanna help her.
So how are we helping?
I wanna help her think like, it's not a big deal.
Like he's just from the, just an open family.
That's really sweet, but it is a big deal.
So let's give her some actual advice.
You have to bring it up to him and just say,
I don't know if you can just admit to snooping.
No, but like you could say like the other night
a text popped up on your phone, like how you...
I don't know.
Yeah, you'll have to come up with a creative way
to bring it up that doesn't make you look crazy
because you have to protect your own interests here.
But he should absolutely know
that you're just not comfortable.
Like you should, don't like judge and shame him
for talking about this with his mom.
That's like a problem for another time.
But he does need to actively stop doing that like today.
Yeah.
So I would say, listen, I'm not comfortable with that.
Like talk to your friends,
like literally talk to a therapist, talk to anyone.
Please don't talk to your mother.
Really?
You'd rather him talk to his friends about the end?
No, no, not friends, not friends.
People that you have to like go out with.
And I wanna know,
why do you need to talk about your sex life
with anyone other than the person you're having sex with?
I don't know. Like why do you need to keep people abreast
as to what's going on in your bedroom
when you just have a girlfriend?
Like, it's not like you're, you know,
seeing a bunch of people.
What's going on?
I think there's more history here
that you should find a way for him to open up to you.
I think there's more to this story.
Maybe it has to do with him and the past relationships.
Yeah, or trauma. Yeah, I think there, or what his mom. Maybe it has to do with him and the past relationships. Yeah, or trauma.
Yeah, I think there,
or what his mom likes to get into in her free time.
I think there's more here.
So find a way to dig in
without it being about the snooping.
Maybe just have it-
Oh, that's actually very good advice.
Maybe just sit down and have a state of the union
about your relationship
and then take it into your sex life.
Okay, our third and final Dear Toasters
is a Dear Toasters collab with NBW,
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Oh, that was so sweet, I wasn't expecting
to get choked up at Dear Toasters.
I'm ready to settle a debate with my husband.
We've been married for four years
and he has a really disgusting habit.
I've convinced him to stop as far as I know
since it gave me a serious ick,
not to mention it was really unsanitary.
My husband likes to pee in the bathroom sink,
the same sink where we brush our teeth, at least I do,
and where I wash my face.
The toilet is no more than three or four steps away
from the sink.
We do not have his or her sinks.
It's just one singular bathroom sink
and he insists that all men do it out of convenience."
I told him there's no way that all men do this
and that I was gonna have to write into your toaster
to settle this once and for all.
Is this normal?
Have you witnessed your husbands do this?
Absolutely not.
I've never seen this.
I've never heard of this.
I have, but it's extenuating circumstances.
Like if me and Ben back in our old apartment
when we had one bathroom,
I mean, we both like really had to pee.
Of course I got to go first,
Ben like maybe once or twice peed in the sink.
He's gonna kill me for saying that.
But that's not what this is.
No, no.
To do it is- This is habitual.
To opt for the sink instead of the toilet.
No, no, all men don't do that.
It's an emergency thing.
I think it's not completely unheard of, I have to tell you.
Like men definitely do this,
but I don't think they use the sink as a toilet
like all the time.
Like as a rule.
I think it's very reasonable to ask and insist
that he uses the toilet instead of the sink
where you wash your face and brush your teeth.
And if he can't agree to that,
you're not even asking for anything
other than for him to move over three inches,
then you put a lock on the door
that only you have the key to
and he can go do that in a different sink.
In a public bathroom.
Hopefully not the kitchen.
Ooh.
Yeah, no, by the way, you're a hundred percent right
in asking him, but like, I don't,
I don't want to indulge him at all, but he isn't wrong.
Like I do think people do this.
Cause I think in the mind of like a really sort of
like a small brain man, it's like,
it's all going to the same place.
Yeah, I'm not worried about where it's going.
I'm worried about what's touching on its way.
Of course.
I wouldn't wash my face in the for like ovulation or like pregnancy tests
and you would like put it in a cup,
what do you do with the pee?
Pour it back in the toilet.
Yeah, I guess that's like a much smarter way.
I was pouring it down the sink.
Pour it back in the toilet.
Yeah, that's yucky.
Yeah, yeah, when there's a toilet right there.
I also wanna share something that I did.
Like I need to unburden myself.
Okay.
There were a couple of times where like I woke up first
and it has to be your first pee in the morning, right?
So where I woke up first thing in the morning
and I didn't have a cup.
Usually I would like leave a red solo cup
and I would like rinse it and wash it and use it every day
which is like probably gross,
but either like the cup got thrown out or it wasn't there.
And I like was in, I was like literally about to pee
and I couldn't get up off the toilet.
I needed something to pee in.
So I used, you know, the really big hairspray I have,
it's like the red one, big sexy hair and the big lid,
the big black top lid.
I use the lid as a cup.
I just needed to, I needed to unburden myself.
And by the way, I rinsed it
and then put it back on my hairspray.
I did, I did. That's crazy. Cause who then put it back on my hairspray. I did, I did.
That's crazy.
Cause who even has the lid on their hairspray
to begin with?
Like who doesn't lose it along the way?
Oh, that's not a problem I have.
And what are the cause to lose it to?
Yeah, no, I'm not.
And I'm pretty sure it's the same bottle of hairspray
I'm still actively using.
So, parchi.
Parchi, bitumen and stem. Parji, women in STEM.
I needed to unburden myself.
So maybe that's why I'm a little bit more sympathetic
and understanding to this man.
But I just, I wanna say like, I back the toaster here.
Like, he should not be doing this.
I back the toaster.
And if this is something that men do
just because they all do it,
if everyone jumped off a bridge, we'd be in the hotel.
Like, then all men should stop.
Right, right. No, you're not wrong. And we wonder why. Then all men should stop. Right, right.
No, you're not wrong.
And we wonder why women have all these skin issues.
Literally, we're washing our faces with urine.
Meanwhile, the men get to be like,
I don't wash my face and I feel great.
It's because everything in your life is clean.
You don't have to be in the pores.
So true, because you're not washing your face
in the toilet.
Right.
That's your toaster.
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To the girl who had that crazy story about her man
taking new photos of her and her friends
and putting in the group chat.
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