The Toast - The Podcast of Record: Tuesday, April 28th, 2026

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

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Jackson Claude, favorite show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, Swirley, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. And speaking of choices, you've made one. Which is choosing the best damn business partner this town has ever seen. Well, that's an intro. Yeah, happy Tuesday, everyone.

Back to the Toast. I'm your host, Turty Lou. Happy Tuesday. I can't believe it's only Tuesday. It's only the day of the twos. What? It's insane. What? What? What? Yeah, it's only Tuesday, but that's okay. We have a lot to carry us through. There's a second leaked summer house audio. Second and third. Second and third. Second batch. Acquired, made a TikTok about us. Like, we have so much to do today. I'm not even concerned. Like, we are going to make it. Oh, wait. Does yesterday count? No. We made it one show. without talking about licks-s-lex in a formal capacity. No, but you took out your board and made a zero yesterday. Yeah, but I was joking.

It was already zero. It was already zero. So yesterday is one show without. Yes, it was not in a formal capacity. But if we continue on the topic too long, we might change ourselves. So let's just right through. Yes, yesterday I would say was National Acquired Day. Agreed.

They came home from the Bachelorette. They watched the toast on the private jet. Which is so crazy. The jet had a plane and they used airplay and they streamed the toast. They wanted to see what we said about them. They made like a bunch of TikToks and pictures. Like, tag us, we are the official podcast of TikTok. Okay, my dreams have finally come true.

We're the podcast of record. Yes. Yes, we are. That's like a cute Instagram bio because we kind of do need to change ours. Because of the passing. Yeah, because our Instagram bio is Jackson, Claude and Bryson Streis, which is like was cute when we were just like two girls. girls with dogs and like we are two girls with dogs but the dog in question I kind of like the

podcast of record okay I'll change it so if you think that's good but you're being so like hasty it's so crazy to change your Instagram bio um you know I like change you know I like a rebrand and when it feels right it feels right and the podcast of record is obviously a play on words from the paper of record which is what paper the Times the New York Times I don't love the comparison no I I think we are the modern New York Times. I actually agree. The podcast of record. Are you going to keep the sparkle emoji or no?

No, it's a heart. Or maybe microphone? Heart and cheers. The heart's a little corny and the cheers. Porny or corny? Corny. I'm taking out all emojis. How about that?

No emoji after the podcast of record. I kept up we're just like changing our Instagram bio. This is insane. The podcast of record, period. Oh, it looks really. Wait, don't post it yet. I already did. Oh, I want to refresh and see.

the new one. Oh, I hate it. I hate it. Take the period out. It looks weird. Oh my gosh. Okay, we can troubleshoot this later. And then it shouldn't say by Jackie and Claudia. It should say with or like hosted. No, I think it's by us. I like by the podcast by. No, it's the podcast like hosted or the podcast with. No. We have to work on it. The buy doesn't work. I'm sorry. It doesn't. I think by like gives it a little jena sequa. Buy us. Like we're authors. We are author. We are the authors of this podcast. because at the end we say that's all she wrote because we wrote the show. We are author.

We are. We are. What's that? Just saying, we are author. Yeah. Did I miss something? You did, but I just... Did I say author?

I did, and I was like, larping myself and you just, like, wouldn't join in. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, we are author. Yeah, we are author. I have purse. So yeah, there's a lot to discuss today. As mentioned, we have your toasters.

Before we dive into what needs to be done, let's talk about us. Before we write the show. Before we write the show. Yeah, oh, you can seriously there is the toast is scripted. You can script comedy like this. We couldn't even. We lost like 20 minutes of an episode. And it literally was all written down and transcribed and we like, we couldn't have even recreated it.

We couldn't. No, but I actually was talking about. to somebody about this recently that a lot of popular podcasts, because they are becoming really replacements for nighttime television, like late night shows, a lot of people are hiring podcast writers. Actually, I was just having this conversation with someone. Who? Like joke writers. Right. Who were you talking to and who's doing it? I don't know why I don't want to say. Who you were talking to? Yeah, I don't know why. Like you're a podcast and you might be putting them on blast? No, but I just, I can't explain it. I don't want to say who told me. Okay, but I guess that

make sense. And also it's like you should make your show the best it possibly can be. Like, use every tooling your toolkit. I have no issues with it. I just, we're on the same page. Like, I don't want a hire a writer, right? No, it wouldn't work for us, unfortunately, you know? Yeah, because I mean, we try to tell you guys this all the time, we literally can't be put in a box. Yeah. No, and like, we're so off the cup. We're really improv. We're like an improv troupe of two. We're like, yeah, Second City. What is like that, what is like the famous improv where they like pluck people from SNL? Oh, I. I don't know. I just know, like, the improv group, like, from, like, my college, you know.

No, no. There's Second City, I think, is, like, a Chicago-based one. And there's, like, what's the one? Famous Improv. Like, isn't there a theater, like, the Chicago Improv? Yeah, yeah. Second City, which is, like, the Chicago one that's a lot. Oh, Upright Citizens Brigade. That's so us. That's so us. Oh, you know, like, one of my favorite theatrical games. It's not a game. It's like a... It's like an improv game. Exercise. Exercise. Is a game I learned. It's an improv game. Okay? I feel like we've played it on the toast already where it's like we have to have a conversation simply asking questions and the first

person to break like loses. How are you? I don't know. How are you? You can't answer it. You just have to answer it a question. Okay. Oh my God. I sent you the funniest thing yesterday. Oh, she's done with the exercise. done with the exercise. Speaking of silly things we do on the show and painful things you make me do. Oh my God. Please do not bring this up because people are going to

go find the clip. The Kim Possible thing? Yeah. But it's hysterical. Mr. McCorky. I'm dropping out. And you could just see like I'm hating that you're making me do this. But it was net hysterical. So anyways, I found a random old clip of our morning broad show where Claudia and I did a bit of improv playing

Kim Possible. And they were casting a live action. and obviously we suggested Mrs. Shuckling-Folet for the role. So, of course, I had to make her do her audition for us. And it is so funny, she's like, Mr. McCorky. You actually did a good job, like that else. Oh, you think so? Yeah. And I was Mr. McCorky, and we were like role-playing on the phone.

And you were like the secret agent. Like, I don't know his name, but Charlie of Charlie's Angels. Yeah. Like, Mr. McCorky. Mr. McCorky was her teacher. Are you sure? I think she was in class with Mr. McCorky. I mean, it's a child.

brilliant performance it doesn't even matter. And I think you played the role of Mr. McCorky so well that you could have been either a teacher or a secret agent. And that's on range. Yeah. I did remind me and just

inspire me even further, like the next time we do revamp our studios, like, which will be at some point, you know, we gotta keep it fresh. We will also need like a third space because we used to get up and like we were more of a web show than a podcast. So we would like do physical like stuff we would dance and sing and give performances.

We used to have like people come on and like teach us to bake. We had a segment in a gym like. Yes. Like we were not a web show quality. That's really like underselling it. We were really like a morning show. A morning show. We really danced at ourselves like we would have segments just like morning glory.

Like here we learn how to bake. Here's some. I got my ears pierced on the show. And the industry sort of demanded that we conform more to like the podcast format, which I'm glad for because I'd love to sit. But in our next studio, wherever that may be, like we will be having a third setup for activities. Okay.

We'll work out like the tech issues. It's going to be great. Yeah. So maybe we can get back to being like a morning show and doing like kitsy stuff like that. Yeah, very like Diane Keene. But that stuff like doesn't work on a podcast because who wants to listen to someone doing a dance. Even though that dance episode was the most iconic thing of all time. Which one?

Asia. DePaolo? Aja de Palos says hello. We have such deep lore. And the fun fact about our lore is that like the first year of our show, which was probably the nuttiest because we had this like unlimited budget, doesn't really exist on the internet because it was like owned by a different media company that like completely erased it. And it would be nice. Like it's just like it's nice that in order to really understand our lore like you kind of had to be there from the beginning because you can't go back and watch it. No, you really had to be there anyway because nobody wants to go back and watch like three girls dancing from 2017.

I do. But it was lightning in a bottle. Lightning in a bottle. I was speaking of lightning in a bottle. We recorded a kind of a tea-filled Patreon yesterday. Would you do to Q&A, which you tried to do like quarterly? Just to catch up with everyone. It's also a good time to like, you know, clear things up.

I like to use it on the platform sometimes to clear things up. And this time we gathered questions. We usually gather questions within our Patreon community. But I took it to Instagram just so like people get really brave with their questions on Instagram. So it spiced it up a little bit. And we talked about some things. The business, of course, some financials. People love to know financials.

Talked a little bit about drama. Yeah, drama. It's on the Patreon. Patreon.com, Sasha Toast. It was a kind of tea-filled episode. Yeah, I would agree that we spilled the tea. How was your mage yesterday? So I played with a new group, but like, you know,

some of the same characters, but new for some. I'm always switching it up, you know? Of course. And it was great. I won the first three games in a row, and I could tell, like, everybody was done with me. and I was actually really enjoying this new foursome, so I didn't want people to, like, hate it.

I know. So not saying I let the last two games go, but I just sort of relaxed and was on my phone. Yeah. Having a, yeah, and one of the girls I was playing with was new, and she was probably like, wow, she's really good. And I'm actually not. Wow, she's really good.

The tiles were with me, you know. I'm not like an insanely skilled player, I don't think. Got it. That's funny. I had a similar experience where I was like, I feel like I'm winning too much in this game and like nobody's going to want to play. Like, it's not fun for anyone.

And nobody's going to want to play with me. So I didn't throw any games, I stopped like trying so hard. Yeah. And for me at least like, and Ben, this is one of my toxic traits. Like I can't just have fun at Moshang. I have to win at least once, just once. And I usually play for like two hour increments.

And we get like four or five games. I just need one. I literally just need one. And sometimes I get zero. And it really affects my mood. I know. It's really crazy. It's also crazy like not playing with you anymore.

Like, oh, am I toxic? What? Am I toxic? Yes. Like the stakes are just so much. I didn't realize everybody else can feel it. Like. Yeah, it's like...

I thought I was like keeping it to myself. No, it just feels like the stakes are so much lower. Like, you win, you win, you lose, you lose. Like, oh, yes, that's, yeah, that's what losers say. I agree, yeah. No, but, like, I'm just saying you have a very intense energy. And of course, I'm playing with you, but I am going to... I'm coming back to Florida shortly.

I am enjoying the lack of intensity. You probably made new four-sums without me. Yeah. Just tell those bitches you'll see them in a week. You could be our alternate. I saw the funniest. I would literally never want to be a fifth who watches and maybe subs him.

Oh, I know a lot of people play. It's a four person game and a lot of people get together in groups of five so somebody alternates or somebody has to leave early and I just want to say, never invite me to a game of five people. I can't imagine anything worse

than being the fifth and watching four people play a game that you love. Like kill me. I completely agree. I saw the funniest TikTok. Listen to this. Okay. If you were thinking about playing Majo,

I need to warn you about something. This is not a casual game, okay? You need to be willing to commit. In a month, you're going to have a Mahjong hat or a coffee mug. You're going to be asking strangers to play. You're going to teach your whole family. You're going to want to go door to door asking people if they've heard the good news about Mahjong. Mahjong goes too hard.

It's so true. I literally walked past the Mandarin Institute on like 70th and something. a few days ago and they had a big sign outside that said, we teach mahjong, like American, Hong Kong, all different versions. And I literally took a picture of the sign outside and sent it to every person I know who doesn't play. Because they're like, I want to take a lot.

Take one. Yeah. Take one. I know like five teachers. What's first when when someone, if you ask someone like, do you play Maj and they're like, no, they're like, teach me. Bitch, I would never teach you. Like, I just taught Satchel.

And that's because I'm related to her. And she has to love me. You will see the ugliest side of me If I have to teach you mahjong Like how stupid are you? Like I just No like seriously It's such a complicated game

Every time I play I have to like relearn the rules again Because there's just so many of them Seriously educate yourself Like it's not on me to educate you Oh and there's actually like a machloquette A sort of an issue with a rule That I would love a Mahjong expert to weigh in in the comments

Because I'm getting conflicting opinions From different teachers and from chat And I will say chat has the NMJL rules down. Like every time I ask them something, they pretty much get it, but I feel like they're wrong on this one. For a sequence, news, one, two, three, four,

you obviously can't call and you can't use a joker. Can you call for Mahjong? Yes. Chat says, chat says no. You can. Chat says no. You can. I just want to make sure.

Well, there's definitely Mahjong teachers listening. Like, just let us know, but like 100% you can. Otherwise, I'm never playing a sequence again. No, I know. When I heard that, I was like, wait, then like half of my mahjongs have gone invalid. Like, no. Oh, wait, like news. You call for the W.

100%. You can call. You could also call on a pair for mage. I know. And it doesn't make sense that you could call on a pair for mage. You can call on a single for mage. Right. But you wouldn't be able to call on a sequence.

Chat is wrong sometimes. You have to like. I can't. You have, is chat. Don't say that about my friend. Is chat the only one saying that? I don't, I don't ask anyone else. You didn't like look it up anywhere.

Oh, no. Oh, chat's wrong. For sure. I feel like I can say that with confidence, but sound up in the comments, Mahjong teachers. Well, I actually watched on my morning TikTok scroll. You know how they released like the first seven minutes of like random episodes of Bravo sometimes? They released the first couple of minutes of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion Part 2. And they have literally 10 minute conversation about chat, GPT.

Oh, interesting. Do you know what I just saw before we recorded? P.K like went on a podcast. Yes. Like a like not diary of a CEO, but like it looks like a very serious. It looks like a diary of a CEO with like a different host. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

That's what I said, I think. I'm agreeing with you. Oh, great. Okay. You find as well. I found, Jackie. I found. You will be found, co-jurner.

Don't sing that song by my least favorite person. So anyways, he's done this podcast. It's very serious, like a serious format, and he's like telling his story, his career, also his divorce, talking about to read. I feel very interested by it. Yeah, it doesn't seem like he was coming from like a place of anger or It seemed decently copacetic in line with what Doreet has been saying now It's like an up-to-date update on their situation.

Yeah, I mean, he's definitely saying like she's changed. She's not who she was. I'm like, I don't know this person. But it does seem like net, net, he's most concerned about their children, as is she. So hopefully, like, they can both move accordingly. Hopefully. He's not just like spiraling out, you know, bottles, models, and where in the world is P-K. It seems...

Where in the world is PK, though? He seems like sort of stable, so I think that's good news. I don't know. I thought it was like, not that I was like waiting to hear from him, but... And not that I'm going to really listen. I still have to listen to you on second thought. But if I did have like all the time in the world, like I might listen. Yeah, I'm not going to listen, but I will enjoy more clips.

So feel free to, you know... You know, TikTok. PK on a podcast, Pek on a podcast. Like, I would like them to come across. I'm not going to seek them out. The podcast is called... Oh, now I'm on the toast. Instagram.

While you're there, change by. I'll see you later. What's new? It hasn't hit me yet. If you search someone, they give you their whole life story and some old pictures. Oh my God. Not only do they give you old pictures. They look for maybe pictures that you could be connected to.

Oh, I searched Taylor's Checker yesterday. I was looking for something. And they showed me the fattest, ugliest picture. I literally, it's a good way to find photos of yourself that you want to delete. Yeah, I actually had a similar. Oh, my God. I couldn't believe. Leave it.

From 10, literally 15 years ago. I had a similar experience. I don't know what that is. They have to stop doing that. Like, make it stop. Now, it's like, Instagram has also become like a Wikipedia where you search someone.

God, would they take you to their profile. No, they give you like this AI generated bio. Yeah, no, like their life story. And it's just a bunch of like random facts. With the ugliest pictures you've ever seen in your entire life. Yeah. What is that? I don't know.

Not my favorite. Not my favorite. Yucky. So, we do have dear toaster. We do have some juicy, salacious stories. I am down. I'm down to clown. To clown, if you are.

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Of course not. You're just sort of being given the energy you give out, you know, you're receiving that energy. Well, you haven't done crazy in a while. Because you've been because I've been shut down. I've been beaten into submission. It's true. Everybody hates my little limerick. It's so harmless. I fucking hate you bitches. Like, oh. No, I know. We can't breathe. Like, we can't just like have a little thing. Have a little fun. The hate on us. I know. It's hard. It's just let it out. Let it out, sister. She's emotional.

It just gets hard, you know? Like I think a lot of people don't understand. No, they don't. Our first story, Summer House reunion leaks. Two more clips leaked. Now, the content is sort of as expected. It's more of the barrage, more of the defensiveness from Amanda.

Zero from West. Did he say one thing? It's actually crazy because it's not even like the conversations that we heard step. or Amanda Focus. It's about their collective statement, their collective lying to the group. It's not just about one thing.

It's insane. I don't think on that second one, I heard him say one word. Yeah, I don't think so either. So they talked to me. And there was a girl's voice I really could not place. Not Bailey? She was like, it might have been Bailey.

Because I think it was Bailey who was like, I saw you that night. So apparently there was one night, end of February when they were all at a bar. Like everyone was drunk. It's also crazy how much they like actually all see each other. It's nice. In the off season, yeah, but it's like, oh, Kyle and Jesse were at a bar with some friends,

and then Amanda came. And anyways, everyone was, like, drunk at the bar. Amanda, like, jokingly kissed Kyle a couple times at the bar. They must have, like, been in a good place. And, like, I can understand how that's, like, a funny schick. Like, kissing your ex-husband, husband. And then went home with West that night. And Amanda was like, I wasn't kissing Kyle.

And Sarah's like, you're still married. And it's like, there would be a difference if Amanda was jokingly kissing anyone other than her husband, but like to kiss your husband, technically. It just proves how like literally by the end their marriage was so fraudulent. Yeah. Well, that was not real. They were already separated at that point,

but they are still legally married. So like, I don't care about that. Jokingly, but Sierra's harping on it. I know. And she needs to let that go because she has so many valid points. And like I personally don't care that she was still legally married. And it's true.

Like Kyle's out here doing, he's doing things when he's married. Like he's dating. I actually do not care. that they're legally married. No, but like to jokingly kiss your husband and go home with someone else is crazier than like jokingly kissing Jesse Solomon and then going home with someone else. You know what I mean? Like that's, like, I think it would be crazier to Chris Jesse Solomon. No, but like that's such a joke. But kissing her husband's not a joke. I have like a little bit

of a hot take, not to be a narc, but like the first leak, thank you. I feel like it's scratched an itch. I needed. I couldn't wait. Now the second leak was so long. I like sat and listened. It was like three, four minutes long. Now it. And they're talking about Amanda's best friend from Katie DeLuca. Yeah, Justice. And I'm sure her name would have been bleeped in the actual reunion.

Katie. And now like we're putting a private citizen on blast. I feel like now we're entering into spoiler zone. And now I don't really want to hear anymore. No. And it's getting like to be, if I have to listen to all that shit again that I found not that like titillating to begin with,

like I could enter boredom territory. Yeah. And I think that maybe the. the person who recorded them. Eating a dead horse territory. I think the person who recorded them is now like bitter because they've been fired and maybe they were just like going to get that one leak and get away with it. But now that they've been fired and they have like genuinely nothing to lose, they are releasing more. Yeah. I feel like I don't really want to listen to them anymore. I almost didn't even listen to two and three because they were hard to come by. They're getting taken down. Yeah. But then someone sent it to me. So I was like, okay, let me listen just like for the toes. No. And like Andy put on radio Andy this morning like talking about the investigation and how they're like actively. working with Bravo fan accounts to not post it. Like that's so lame. No, and he also said that it was like a Bravo fan that helped them crack the case. The case, which does track.

And that like we're going to learn more about the situation. I don't really care, to be honest. Like, you don't want to learn more? We know it's not a cast member. Well, we know it's not a cast member. So my interest just sort of ends there. I don't need the name of like some random audio engineer who like that name is going to mean nothing to me unless I went to high school with him, you know?

He said, team of investigators were on it. It was a Bravo fan who you're going to hear more about who crack the case. Oh, great. Now we're going to have some like some crazed fan on a podcast or something. Like, I'm good. And delivered crucial information. It's like Monica all over again. Yeah, I don't need this. Like this is just getting weird. Just give us the reunion. Okay. Yeah. I wonder if they'll also take out some of these bits now because I think that they will and that they could. I'm sure they had a really long, like hours long conversations. I'm sure the same things were said over and over and like just choose a different one. So it feels new.

I do think that these leaks are a window into the approach that Amanda and West individually took. They clearly were not a united front. The fact that they left together feels weird because if I'm Amanda, I'm mad at West. Like, he goes the silent route. In every clip, he's barely speaking, which is not a bad road to take. Like, you can only get in trouble so much if you don't say anything. Amanda's taking like this very defensive route, not coming in. And that's what Jesse said. on Watcher Appens Live was that like there hasn't been this like, you know, deeply apologetic apology tour, forgiveness, accountability. No, they're like sort of indignant.

No, and their whole thing is like, I'm sorry, but like what did you want me to do? Like, okay, I could have handled it better, but like this is what was happening. I didn't know what to do. You don't hook up with him. And also this in the last few weeks and months it sounds like from like the timelines and the photos and what's everyone's saying, like they're just like all drunk and drinking and like this isn't serious. This is not serious.

They said that night at the bar, February 28th, like, West was too drunk to even speak. Like, that's your love. And that's who you went home. That's who you can't help but be with. That's also, like, unethical. It is. Sorry, to go home with somebody who can't even speak.

Yeah, I'm just saying. If the roles were reversed, I just want to say, like, that's what people would be done. It's not like Romeo and Juliet when you're seriously blacked out half the time. A thousand percent. And, like, Amanda, you just speaks a lot about her weed use. And a lot of people, I saw people talking about how you're, Amanda's been really open with her mental health journey.

And you're really not supposed to smoke weed when you're taking medication like that. And that like maybe maybe she's having, because she is acting like so out of character. Like I just think we don't know her character. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what her character is and is not. Because she's never been put in a situation like this before. The clip was also just reminding me of Vanderpump roles where like nobody can speak during scan.

of all reunion. Like nobody can speak. Everybody's attacking and it's like, I do want to hear from Amanda. So if everybody can just like shut up for a second, like I want to hear what this crazy person has to say. Yeah. And Lindsay like starts to say that at a certain point. Like everybody's saying, such a mom, such a mom. Yeah, because you do have to like deliver this reunion correctly. Like we do need to have the flow of conversation go accordingly where everyone can like say their piece. And when everyone just starts in together like no, no, no, that's not going to work. So we can't interrupt like every second of Amanda. Like she has to be able to say something. Yeah. And you you can combat that, but like it has to be a conversation.

And that's why like people like Bailey and KJ come into Sierra's defense. Like I love, but like it's really not about you. So just like hold on. Yeah. Hold on like because we just need organization, conversational organization. There are tiers of like who gets to speak the most. Amanda West and Sierra are tier one. And Kyle.

Kyle is too. No. Kyle's tier two. Sorry. I know that he should be tier one, but he ain't. Kyle's connection to Amanda is stronger than Sierra's connection to West.

Sorry. It's actually not though. Like they're feeling for one another. Maybe in terms of how much one likes another, but in terms of like history, like that's his family. Okay, fine. He can be on tier one even though he's hanging on

by a fucking thread, okay? Tier two, Jesse Solomon, maybe just Jesse Solomon. And Lindsay, because I respect her and I want to hear it just to say. Or like Mia, like a, uh, uh, uh, No, no, sorry. Everyone else, like, they were there,

but they aren't longstanding members of this dynamic, first of all. And it doesn't sound like they were there physically. Okay, Bailey was there once. Like, it would be Paige if she were there. Oh, of course. But I'm sorry, like everyone else, I just, unfortunately, I need you to take a back seat.

That's why I think it's even crazy that Levi was there. Like, we don't need one more person chiming in and she wasn't even on the show. Like, it's really crazy to hear you. Levi can be on namesake. Write it down. I'm just wanting you guys to know like namesake is shaping up to be like

the show of a lifetime like give namesake the Pulitzer it's brilliant it's giving keeping up with sports like a podcast that never gets released I just like I have a lot of like dreams for like things I want to do in my not a lot actually I have a very short list of like dreams things I want to accomplish in my career work that I want to put out there

and namesake is on that list you need to know is it actually because I just want to say it doesn't sound like a very good podcast aside from the fact that like we're only sitting down with people whose names we either share or they share with like members of our family. Beyond that, it just sounds like a boring interview show with Levi from Summerhouse. It does, but like it's just such a great angle. Like we can't have everyone.

But beyond the angle, like, what is there? But it's like, it's the angle. It's the angle. And I think it would go to show, like the power of a name. chilling chilling and there are ways to like open it up to have up like we could never have Amanda on because we don't have anyone in our family

remotely named Amanda but there are other like we have aunts and uncles and cousins like we could have a lot of people on the show inadvertently you know like Kyle we could have Kyle on the show because Zach has a brother Kyle oh yeah okay okay I don't care like we couldn't have West on I'm not really

We could have Jesse. We could have Jesse. Isn't it fun? It's like you don't get to choose who comes out. Like it chooses you. Because like you don't get to choose your family. The power of a name. And you don't get to choose your name.

Right. Anyways, Levi is our inaugural episode. Great. Can't wait. And Charlie Puth. Oh, and we could have Teddy swims because of Theo. Oh, yeah. It does apply posthumously.

And Bruno Mars. Yep. Yeah. So it really, it has rain. I do think that Bruno Mars needs to go on a podcast. He like has never really done one and people don't know him. Maybe that's how he maintains like a good sense of self, like boundaries within the industry. But I kind of would love to hear him on like armchair expert.

Yeah. Or the toast, of course. I feel like this would be a fun one for him. Because his sex takes me to favorite. Yeah, you know what's your favorite? What's your favorite Bruno Mars song? You know what? Like I love like locked out of heaven

So good So like some of the early ones are just like They go so hard Like treasure Fucking treasure I was gonna say Finesse That's like a sleeper hit

It's gonna make no sense Like he's so good He's a crazy one He's wild in Okay so back to the leaks That's enough Yeah I'm calling it And I don't want to keep listening

People keep sending it to me I don't, I think now I just want to be surprised before I'm like over it before it even starts. Yeah. And justice for that girl, Katie. Yeah. Well, she just, they just said it would be like hooking it with Katie. No. And then apparently there was a phone call with Katie Jiluka and Kyle.

I think that's how Kyle found out. Yeah. But she didn't do anything wrong. She seems fine. And is she the one that's on in the city? Amanda's friend. Oh, is she? That would make more sense.

But is she? She probably has more than one friend. Katie Jiluka. And at this point, I don't know if she does. Katie DeLucah. Oh, yeah, she is. All right, so that's fine. Okay.

Are you ready for our next story? Oh, she's pretty. I'm just like, I think this is the wedding in Italy that they went to and where they met Ben. That makes sense. And her husband's last name, and I guess now her last name is Arredale. Arredale. That's nice. Yeah.

Wesselton. From frozen. From frozen. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Some sort of adjacent news. One of the craziest headlines we'll read here at the toast. Oh, my God.

Dr. Dre holds hands with the Valley star Michelle Sinai on unexpected date night. So Dr. Dre and Michelle Sinai from the Valley appear to be dating. The rapper 61 and the real estate agent in reality star 37 were snapped holding hands at celeb hotspot Nobu in L.A. on Saturday. It took me about 45 minutes to actually compute what my eyes were seeing, like for the image to go into my retina and translate to actual logical thoughts in my brain. Because it took me a second to be like, wait, who's that? Because I haven't watched a valiant a little while.

And I was like, wait, who's that? And I, it's like somebody dating an alien, like from a different planet. I just, I was shocked. I was shocked. And then part of me remembered like how much I fucking hate her ex-husband. So I am living for this because I just know he's in hell.

You think so? Yeah, people on the Valley are obsessed with like low-level celebrities that they are. And I feel like a lot of the storylines are always talking about like other people. Like they said, what was the celebrity connection? Whatever.

They're just obsessed with fame. And for her to be out here, with like one of the most legendary billionaire. Yeah. I hope they get married. I hope they get married. Also in the first season, like he had started rumors that she like had a billionaire boyfriend or whatever.

I wonder if this is who they were talking about or she just like has multiple billionaires in her phone. Oh wait. That's a really good call because then they said she was like an escort. Yeah, but I don't think that was not true. That's not true. No, no, no. But like she was conversing with a billionaire like years ago and I just wonder if it's the same one

or if she just like can pull multiple billionaires. I hope so. I would love that because then it's like also the guy, you know, she told you not to worry about. Yeah, but then also. I hate her ex-husband more than I hate anyone on reality TV. I think he is evil. Did you see this old clip of Sheena going around that saying that Dr. Dre is her hall pass?

Sheena. And then Brock rescinded it because Dr. Dre was actually coming around. Like they were in the same room as him and like Brock realized it was actually a possibility. So he was like, no. Rescind. Oh, so obviously. this is the billionaire. I don't know why is Dr. Dre

so in the periphery of the valley stars. Like that's where this story sort of makes no sense to me. This is like a legendary historic, iconic. There are so many beats by Dre like billionaire. His music, like his musical impact is like decades long and he's hanging out

with the kids from the valley. Like I just, I'm so confused. So confused. But I do hope they really make a go of it. Like, I would like this for her, you know? Yeah, and Isabel needs, like, a billionaire stepfather.

I also thought Michelle was, like, dating Lala. Lala. We never close the circle on that. It's giving queer baiting. No, I think if we just watch the season, like, we might maybe get some answers. And I do, like, want to watch the season because, like, my favorite person is back on television.

I just, like, have a lot going on right now. And, like, you know, we're, like, sleep training. And it's just, it's hard. It's hard to watch TV. Yeah, I feel like, um, it's just, um, it's just like weird that like you're still riding so hard for Lala. Why? You're loyal.

It's nice. I am loyal. But why like what happened that I wouldn't? No, nothing happened. I just feel like there's not that much to like stand. Like I like her personality. Yeah. She's like a dedicated mama.

She hasn't like done anything that's like in Congress with the person that I always liked. Correct. So it's like so random. Like your favorite person on reality TV? One of. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she just hasn't been on TV that long,

so it's just not as fresh unless I were to watch the Valley, but like I just know she's going to give, like, she'll be my favorite again. She's going to, she's going to give them Lala. She's going to give them Lala. Like, I just think she's so great. No, I admire your loyalty. I actually really do.

And like, when I ride for someone, like, don't take that lightly, you know, I don't just, I don't just throw my weight behind anyone. And you can know that. Know that. Also, people are now circulating the clip of a Lala. I don't know if it was on like a Bravo after show, but she really believes that she is a reincarnated spirit of Tupac Shakur. Okay.

And Dr. Trey is actually like a former comrade of Mr. Chakor. Maybe that's how they could all connected. Maybe like, no, but maybe he could like meet Lala and like let her know if he sees his old buddy in there. It's giving Tupac. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. Okay.

Well, we'll keep you posted on this on this burgeoning coupling. Ship. Like seriously, get the, get the labor. Get the, like get your hammer out. We're building a ship and we're setting this to see. Yeah. Setting sale. We're setting sail.

It's a big one because he's a billionaire. So you got a big boat. I'm obsessed with those. When I was reading the Dumois caption, like I couldn't have come up with a random, a more random pairing. I love. Like if I asked chat, GBT to generate like the most random couple you could think of even chat could it.

Should you do ask chat? No. Like it's perfect. This is perfect. I know. Sometimes you just have to let. the chips fall where they make. They're even more beautiful than you could have arranged.

It's, oh, I love that. I love that. Are you ready for our third story? Yeah. Sort of like another amazing celebrity coupling, ish. Angelina and Jolie and Jazele Bryant pose alongside their daughters as they attend a sorority event in Atlanta.

I saw the daughters, and I'm obsessed with this. So, Giselle and Angelina Jolie's daughters, And it's Giselle from the Real House of Potomac, not Bunchen. First time when I was reading the headline, I was like, wait, what? Giselle from Real House as of Potomac. Her and Angelina Jolie's daughters are in the same sorority at the same college. And they're not the same age, but they were taken in a photo together for their sorority, which is now like going viral because it's literally Angelina Jolene Jaze.

And which child of Angelina? Zahara. Oh, interesting. Okay. Um, I love this. Like, this is where Bravo is really the intersection of so much culture. Because obviously, like, the daughter, she's, they're all like Nepo kids, but she's more so a Nepo because of her father than her mother, right?

But we know it, of course, from the Bravo angle. Giselle's daughter, Angel. Yeah. I would say, like, Jamal is more famous than Giselle. Well, it depends who you ask. It does, of course. But I think, like, if you were to zoom out, like, like on in terms of like, yeah, I would say Jamal.

Yeah, well. Like, and I think that like his daughter probably runs in these fancy circles more so because of him. Yeah, but I think she runs in two big circles now. Like she has two different whole worlds. She's legs in different universes. Yeah, so she has access to like two completely different worlds. And I just don't know why I'm surprised like Angelina Jolie's like kids would be in

sororities because I feel like they're so like off the beaten path. You know, and sororities are like so. Well, sororities have like different vibes at different schools. They both go to Spellman and. So I'm sure the sororities are like very, you know, storied and it's. Yes, HBCU. It's like, it's so different. Like from Beyonce's homecoming.

Yeah. And there are other schools that have like, you know, like supper clubs like that. Just sometimes it's not just like Greek life party like sorority. Yeah. It's not what we think. It's like really a group of women. Sisterhood. It's a group of women.

A sisterhood. Yeah. And some schools, it's like if you're not in the sororities, like it's, that's the whole. Well, there goes your social life. Or like NYU. I didn't know a single soul. Or there's zero. You know, so every school.

is very different. I would say Greek. It's true. It's true. I forgot that this was an HBCU. Yeah. And I think it's like historic like I'm sure, you know, Giselle was in this sorority, you know, like she's a legacy or something.

Exactly. Yeah. It's giving Sydney White. I like, first of all, I hope these two are friends. Maybe they were in the same sorority and didn't even like know that the other existed and now the internet is bringing them together. Yeah. No, it's hysterical.

This photo just is so pargy also. Giselle is like this is a huge slide for Giselle. Yeah, for sure. Super cute. Extremely. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Our fourth story.

A little Taylor Swift wedding update because why, oh, what were you? She's also, like, featured in this huge New York Times video series. They're doing like a thing about like the greatest songwriters. And she's one of them. And so she did like, nothing major. There was no like big thing. songs and her songwriting. And how she writes songs and just like, you know, the journey.

I thought that's what you were talking about. Like writing for songs of writing. Yeah. Yes. No, but wedding bells. So it appears as though the July 4th date is the date of the wedding. Michael Rubin has moved his party so it doesn't clash with her wedding. Page 6.

I just want to say I don't know if I believe this. You don't believe what? That if he's moving his party, it's because of Taylor's wedding. one, he didn't even have his party last year So I feel like the tradition has been broken That if he has it another weekend It could be for any reason It says it's gonna be Wednesday, July 1st

So still July 4th weekend but not But like if you're going to the wedding You could go to both The only other reason why I don't know If this is necessarily true is like even here There's like a list of guests that like typically frequent and they don't cross It's very much like the Kardashianian world

No, Tom Brady's not going Exactly Leo, Kardashian's not going Right Taylor's like the most famous And I feel like it may be like the people who are coming are also dropping like flies. Like Ryan and Blake aren't going.

So it's literally Lena Dunham. I think she's marked safe. No. Haim. Going to what? Lena Dunham, you think is going to the wedding? Of course. Why? I thought they're not friends.

No, they are. She's not friends with Lord anymore. But she got Jack and the divorce. You think Jack and Margaret are going to go with Lena? I do. I don't think so. I do. I do. I think Jack and Margaret will be there.

I do think Lena will be there. Hame will be there. Salina. Lonna. Maybe. I feel like they're more work friends, you know. But you met your work friends. Lana Del Rey, like Joshua Jackson, like the most random people. You know what I mean? Why Joshua Jackson?

Because his, Jody, his wife was in the music video for. Oh, right, because of the Graham Norton show. But also, Travis has a lot of friends. Totally different circles. Yeah, yeah. But like, so there would be a lot of celebrities from Travi. Pat and Brittany, of course. Andy Reid of course Who else is he friends with?

Cory Gamble Justin Timberlake Justin Timberlake Cory Gamble's not invited Like it's not even a question You're out Justin Timberlake will be there And also Taylor is friends with him

It will be like really good state of the union To see who they're both still friends with Because like I know that she has said also That she's having a huge wedding Like it's not like the guestless is not She's not being precious about it So if that's the case Like we will really know

It's not like we can say Well, it was a small wedding. Yeah. I know that her and Kelly, like, aren't friends anymore. Who? Kelly, tell her. Oh, yeah, they're not. But, like, it would be crazy if she's not at the wedding.

I just want to say. She's not going to me. That's crazy. She was her date for the Golden Globes like two years ago. Best friends. So that's crazy to me. That's crazy work. And, like, Travey likes Miles.

I know. I feel like a lot of Taylor's, like, beefs do sort of get, what's the opposite of like when you like deactivate like neutralize yes neutralized by travi right like it's like not that serious because Travis is friends with the brother and it's all good but isn't that classic husband wife stuff you know like the husband maintains a decent relationship where it's neutralized yeah so it will be very interesting and it will be a state of the union on who on her celebrity friendships because there are question marks and there are a lot of you know like you said Jack Antonoff, Sabrina Carpenter will be there for sure.

Jack Antinoff, Lena Dunham. There are, Zoe Kravitz, Harry Stiles. Yeah. You know, I read a report, so just take this with a grain of salt, that they're getting engaged because he has, like, baby fever. He really wants a baby. I saw that they want a baby. Do she have kids?

I don't think so. And I wonder if he wants a baby because he's been really inspired by my mama content, because he does follow me on Instagram, you know? Yeah, maybe. Maybe it just feels like everybody on his Instagram, you know, like classic is having a baby. That's really cute. I know.

I hope they do. I would love that. I hope they do have a baby. Me too. Yeah, I need more people to have babies just so they can write music that I'm able to relate to. Yeah. Oh my God. John Mayer actually gave a very funny interview and said something very funny.

I would love John Mayer to have a baby. So he, I forget where he was talking about this, but let me pull up the article because he was talking about this. He does a radio show, so maybe on his serious XM show. He was talking about his hit daughters. And he says, like in hindsight, the song was actually like very. selfish. He's like a 23 year old telling fathers how to parent their daughters so that they grow up to like be better girlfriends to him, you know? Yeah, right. It is a crazy song. And it's crazy that it's like it's like the most popular song to dance with your dad too at your wedding. And it's like record of the year.

He said what was a 24 year old boy telling fathers? He said he admitted the reason for writing the song was very selfish. Quote, I think, I was thinking in very circuitous and clever ways that it was really about me, a young guy, so selfishly upset that he couldn't be with the woman he loved because he thought that her father must have had something to do with it. That's actually like an insane song. Yeah, I'm surprised he hasn't been canceled for that. But then he said, and this is what you were just saying. He said, when you're young, that's young logic and it plays really well in songs.

It just does. Come over. I know we're horrible for each other. Come over type of young. He then joked how older logic can be harder to write songs about. Like, had a tough day, coped with it. It's a tough. Yeah.

He said it's a tough song to write. Had a rough morning. Took a look at the bright side. Got a good phone call later. reminded myself what was I worrying about? Well, it kind of sounds like John Mayer needs to have a baby. It'll be endlessly inspiring for him in the studio. Yeah, but it is funny how like, you know, sound logic.

No, being healed is not interesting. It's not art. It doesn't make for good art. Yeah. However, you should live in ordinary life so you can be violent and original in your work. And I think Taylor Swift is definitely testament to like you can do it. I feel like she pulls a lot from like movies and TV shows because her life became like sort of, especially with Joe Alwyn, like monotonous, in a sense, like just six years of

Well, it sounded like it was sort of like a tortured romance in hindsight. And now people are- Yes, and she's able to make music about it now with like the perspective of hindsight. People make the argument now and it's an argument I do not agree with, but I will just platform it. Sure. She loas wasn't- Was a flop. A success because she is happy and happy people like can't make good art.

I disagree because I think the songs on Toloas about her being had. are the better songs. Yeah. Honey. Got a couple of kids. Got the whole blog looking like. You. I would also,

I would say there are good songs on T. Lois. I think the album. As a work of art is not. And the album imagery does not jot with the songs. Like it just, and the way it was hyped up was not what we got, you know, 12 blank spaces, Bob City. Yeah, I blame Travis for that.

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So we've got our first real look at Verrivy. Very, very spooky. I don't remember it being that like much of a psychological like thriller mind games. Like I, but I read it a very long time ago. Well, I don't want to spoil anything. But yeah, like because of what you find out at the end, it does make the whole book feel like was it's like, it's like one of those books where it's like, are you hallucinating or somebody gaslighting you? Like so it does have that element. Yeah, this trailer looked really.

good. And it also takes place in this like remote mansion, very much like the shining. It looks very good. And it actually looks like really, like adapted almost to a T. Yeah. Like I remember the bite marks on the headboard like. Yeah. Little things like that. I don't even really remember so much the premise of the book, but everything I saw on the trailer, I was like, oh yeah, that's from the book. So it seems like they're adapting it quite closely. Yeah. I'm excited to watch it because I read the book so long ago. I love the book. But I've forgotten a lot of the details. So I feel like. I'd be watching a new thing and I can enjoy the movie, whether or not it's close to the book or not. And it seems like the first movie from Colleen Hoover's work that's like not being, it's like,

it ends with us that reminders of him looked like a lifetime movie. Like all of them have been like really corny. And this looks like a movie that's a real movie. Like it looks serious. It looks kind of like Gone Girl level of just sort of psychological thriller. Yeah, whereas everything else, I mean that, and then that Allison Williams one, she did one, where they get in the car crashed. Like it was just,

they all are so lifetime movie. I just saw like a weird clip of that on Instagram. It was like, you know, sometimes they post movie clips and it's like crazy movie. What was that one called? Into the woods.

I don't know. I don't know. There have been reminders of him. And it wasn't reminders of him? No, no. What was it called? Regretting you. Yeah, yeah, classic.

Like, you know, two people's spouses getting a car crash and it turns out why were they together and they were having an affair. So that's what I saw. the clip just the hospital scene where it's like wait why are you here why are you here why are you here they were both in the trash and they were together i'm like oh my gosh and they're obviously having an affair yeah um i don't know if i read that book i did i did read reminders of him that's just sounded good

that was one of the last books i did read of colleen hoover because i was like okay i think i've like aged out of this um and i don't know why i just feel like all of them have been sort even it ends with us which was pretty good it didn't feel like a serious film it just felt like a kind of commercial corny film. This one between Anne Hathaway and Dakota, who are just like both really high-level actresses, it just feels like it could get, you know, a Golden Globe now. Yeah, I agree. It's up there. I'm excited. Comes out October 2nd. So whether you've read the book or not, I feel like everybody's really going to like this movie. It reminds me of Gone Girl as well, whereas like a huge book, even bigger movie, if possible. And Anne Hathaway these days, like really

does not do something that's not, like, I feel like when she is involved in a project, you're almost entirely sure it's going to be really good. She just has a good picker. So I'm I'm very excited and I don't have any, you know, when you read a book, you feel like you can like criticize the movie a little bit. I don't have any feelings. Like I feel excited and I think, I think it's in good hands. I think so too. And I'm happy for Colleen Hoover who I was just going to say that as a win under her belt and like isn't traumatized from the movie industry. Yeah, because so far she's striking out. Obviously it ends with us. And then the other two are just like, the other two I think like actually are not a problem. I think it's better to have a movie

that's flop. Not flops, but just doesn't like go crazy versus what happened with with it ends with us, which could literally have, like, thrown her whole career. Yeah. Let's dive into Dear Toasters. Are you ready? Mm-hmm. Our weekly advice segment every Tuesday,

Jackie and I like to help out our community. If you guys ever want to write in, please send us a message to your toaster's at gmail.com or head over to our website, the Toastpodcast.com, where you can imagine about anything that's going on in your life, wedding drama, work drama,

best friend drama, family drama. We love family drama. We're going to try and help you, okay? And we try to give sound advice, okay? And if you aren't open to either you being the problem or your husband being gay, don't write in. Hey, Jackson Terrid.

I'm getting married in July. My family is not religious, but my fiance's family is Catholic. My dad asked if we could have a memorial set up at the wedding for my late great-grandmother who passed away in 2010. For context, my dad grew up in a very abusive home. My grandmother took him in at nine years old. She was the only motherly figure he knew. I'd love to have a memorial for her, but my dad is requesting that we bring her ashes.

Like reserve a chair for her ashes during the ceremony, have a memorial table for the have a memorial table for the reception where her ashes would be placed after the ceremony. My fiance and I think displaying her ashes in a way is going a little too far. Do you agree? Any advice is appreciated? Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it seems like, and I love your dad for this. She sounds like an amazing woman. Like, seriously, they should write books about her.

Agreed. I do feel you on the ashes just being there is like a step too far. It is still your wedding. absolutely allowed. But I do agree like you should, you know, but it's not your dad's wedding. Like, it's your wedding. And I'm sure she was a great woman to you. But like his, like, wanting to honor is for what she did for him. Yeah. And it's like it's not his wedding. Maybe he should get married. She passed 16 years ago. It's not like, you know, she just passed. And she was almost here. Right. And she almost made the wedding. She came to your fitting.

Like a lot of people have passed. You know, we didn't have our father at our wedding. We didn't make a whole big thing. You know, you make a speech. And you're like, and dad would have been you just throw it in there. And even having a chance. Even having a chance. in the front row that just has reserved. That's very tasteful. But it's also a little bit. And urn is nutty. It's also morbid.

Like this is a celebration of life and of the future. And we don't need like constant reminder. So I like the idea of honoring her in some way. But it's not a funeral. That is sort of morbid. And if it doesn't feel right to you, don't do it. Don't not do it because of what his parents are going to think. Like what feels right to you?

I do think that this is extreme. What does this woman also mean? to you. It's not your dad's wedding. So like if she was an really important figure in her life and you want to honor her for you, like you know people have little pictures sewn into their veil. Like there's so many sweet things you could do.

In Earn, I agree, is really nutty. But what about you? Like, do you care to honor this woman? Like in big or small ways? If you do, there's a lot of really beautiful ways people honor loved ones. Yeah. If you just want to do it for your dad, like, okay, she can be mentioned in the speech or like

just, yeah, not to be like rude, but what does she mean to you? Yeah, I feel like a lot of people get married with people having passed and like there are, I've not really heard of like a chair. Like, I don't know. I haven't heard of that either, but I think a chair. The urn is, no. A chair sounds like a sweet idea, but it's kind of a big thing to do, you know?

It's hard to get a chair at a wedding too. I know, that's a place. I'm always, that's like me. I'm always looking for a seat. Yeah. So I don't know. You don't feel like you have to like make this whole thing. thing like a tribute to her. It's not

what it's meant to be. Agreed. With the utmost respect, I say that. We have a little bit of bachelor party drama. Is it acquired? She's acquired writing him. No, but if your friend was an influencer, you wouldn't be in the situation, so everybody should be friends with acquired. Ready? Hi. Okay, so I was invited on a bachelor party for one of my good

friends from high school. I paid for everything up front, but something came up for my family and I've, um, ending up not being able to go. I texted the maid of honor and said, don't worry about getting me my money back. I don't want the other girls to have to pay extra because I had this last minute thing. That's tough. The day of the trip comes and I find out that they invited another girl

to take my place, which is totally fine, but she's going for free because I've already I've already paid and she's going in my place. Absolutely fucking not. Is it wrong of me to think that this is absolutely crazy? They found another girl didn't tell me and didn't give me any of my money back. That's rude, right? I didn't want my money back to help the other girls.

Not for someone I don't even know to go for free. You're 100% right. This is insane. That is insane. You were so generous to have left your money. because it's true they would have to pay more if you pulled your money out you wouldn't even be wrong if you did it very mature that's very big of you but um you got another person to go that doesn't mean that someone gets a free trip it means you get your money back this is not like make a wish like you were doing a nice thing and they're taking advantage of you i don't know how you bring it up

um you definitely don't bring it up to the bride because like this is not her problem but no sorry you like bring it up to the bride and whoever if there's someone in charge but typically the bride's in charge. I mean, some people have their maid of honors running the show. No, I think typically the maid of honors. Not in our situations. Like, if you had an issue with my bachelor, like bring it to me. And it's not, I'm just a bride. Like, I can handle a little conflict. I completely agree. It's not like I just returned from war. Don't bring it up to me. No, the freeloader owes you money. Yeah, bring it up to the brady. I don't know why people act like brides like can't be spoken to. Like they have too much under, like she's just going on vacation for a party.

And also the bachelor party is like months before the wedding. She's going on vacation for a party. She's having. She's going to be okay. she's going on vacation for a party. It's true. Like to celebrate a joyous occasion. Like she can handle stuff. Yeah, some of the other girls,

like the single ones, don't bother them with this. They have a lot going on, okay? They have to go speed dating. It's true. Like, they're the ones who have,

like, so much on their plate. Yeah. Will I ever find someone? But the idea that, like, don't bother the bride. Like, she's literally having the time of her life.

No, and she's the one, like, being, you know, carried off into the sunset. Yeah. No, and she knows all of the people here.

Like, the maid of honor might not know you that well. That's true. But, like, the bride knows everyone very intimately. So, like, definitely raise your concerns to the bride and just let her know, like, you were happy to leave the money if it meant people had to pay more. If someone's coming, she would like her to pay you for your trip. I can't believe you even have to explain this.

This is where situations are so frustrating. Like, if everybody could just act like a normal human being. That's, like, just very logical. It's so wrong. And, like, to take advantage of your kindness, like, that was really mature and generous of you. Yeah. You sound like a great girl.

I love you. I'm sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, I'll say something. Send the girl of Emma request. Yeah. Yeah.

Our third and final due to sters is upsetting. I hate me to say that. It's like, okay. Hey, sexy mamas. I love that she calls us out. I love this girl. Dear, and she wrote sex a, S-E-X-A-Y.

Hey, sexy mamas. My husband has been begging me to make homemade adult films with him for many years. and I've always respectfully declined for numerous reasons. I'm camera shy. It's not my cup of tea. I'm definitely afraid of someone seeing it, et cetera. The most recent reason is because I'm 13 months postpartum with my first baby.

I'm not feeling anywhere close to my best physical self, yada yada. He has fantastic pictures of me pre-baby to get him through the tough times. But he recently claimed that those pictures are not enough. A few weeks ago, I noticed him acting strange after me had sex. He was immediately looking at his phone and I had a gut feeling that he had recorded us. I asked, he said no.

Later that night, I checked his hidden photos, which is a folder where he keeps like my steamy photos and he had in fact recorded us through the indoor security cameras. I confronted him and he said, I just really wanted something of the two of us and you would have made me delete it. Am I overreacting by feeling weird that he lied

and recorded it without my knowledge? I feel like we have sex a normal amount. I don't feel like he's suffering without it. Should I be grateful that my man wants to watch videos of me instead of videos on the internet? Sincerely an insecure toaster. Oh my God. I feel really nauseous. I know. I hate to have to tell a woman,

especially a woman who's 13 months postpartum that you're married to a sex offender, but you are. No, I'm sorry. This is just the beginning. He just came to a crime. This is just the beginning. This man has no respect for you or your bodily autonomy.

This is so bad. Like this is so, so, so, so, so bad. And like, no one needs to have videos of you guys having. Like, the idea that he's like made you feel like. Like to get him through tough times. Did he give birth? No, but it's like, and you're having sex with him. Like, what's the tough time?

Yeah. This is really bad. not only is what he did illegal. It's enormously unethical. And this is supposed to be like your man, your protector. This man has no respect for you. I'm sorry. And I hate him like so much.

And I think men who do things like this, like this is just the tip of the iceberg. And I feel like there's been, not saying that your man does this, but there's been this sort of like cultural revelation since the Giselle Pelicott thing, right? Like people realizing that their husbands do these awful things either to them, they monitor their online activity. Like, you know, I said to Ben the

other day because, you know, I feel like when you become a mom, you become aware of like how, um, normal pedophilia is. Like everybody's a pedophile. Every second. I said, Ben, you know, like one in five American men? I made up some statistic. I'm like, you know, one of five American men is a pedophile or like engages in some sort of pedophilic activity. Like I read that somewhere once. I don't know if it was one in five. Maybe it was like one in ten. Whatever. And he was like, you're so crazy. I'm like, I'm literally not. And I feel like once you open your eyes to like, most, you're, Most men, there's something sinister, whether it's, yeah, the pedophilia thing. This is, I don't even know what to call this.

This is, it is a form of abuse, yeah. You have a bad husband. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that. And I feel like it might take you a few years to realize, like maybe you think we're being dramatic because like you sound like, am I being, I'm just insecure. Yeah, maybe I'm just being like sensitive. No, you have been like being to submission for lack of a better phrase. Yeah.

And he's making you. think that like maybe you're overreacting or like maybe you know you should have done it but you're just like insecure because you just had a baby I don't care if you had a baby 15 years ago if you've never even had a baby like you have a bad husband you have a dangerous husband I imagine if you monitor his other online activity and yeah this is so bad like this is so recording somebody having sex without their consent it's like not only a crime it is the worst thing somebody can do like to their partner yeah um and I will help you with the retainer for a lawyer absolutely you just send me an email. Like, this is insane.

Yeah. Yeah. Hate. Really bad. And I feel like maybe you need it to hear from someone. You need a perspective that this is so fucked up. In like the pit of your stomach, you know that like maybe this is really bad. Or like, you know. If he makes you feel like it's normal, like, of course I just want to see a video of us.

Like, you know, for the tough times. It's like, shut up. Like, you just had a baby. And you're still having sex. Why don't you shut the fuck up? Why don't you shut the fuck up and rub my feet? Okay. And they're still having sex though. So there's like not tough times.

correct no like marital like yeah i hate your husband like he's he's a bad guy yeah i'm sorry to like end on that but that's deer toasters thank you to everyone who wrote in and as always you can email us teartasters at gmail.com or head over to our website the toastpodcast dot com well the place looks beautiful it always does it does it does it does i will not let like the sex offenders and pedophiles of the world ruin the beautiful place. Okay, okay. But I just think it's important that like everyone just remember like almost like. Everyone's a creep.

Don't trust anybody. That's what you need to remember. Don't trust anybody. Yeah. That's such a bad like. No, no, okay. Just keep an eye out. Okay.

Yeah, don't think like these things can't happen to me like so many men are so bad. Like they're so evil. Like I hate to be one of those like men hate that. podcast, but like I feel like... So many people. So many people. People. But in this category, like it does. Typically trend now. Yeah, like women can be pedophiles and sex offenders. Absolutely.

But they're not. Like, they're usually not. No, no, they can be. Yeah. They can be. Yeah. It's possible. Not probable. You know, we see stories all the time, like of like teachers and whatnot. Yeah, but we more so see stories of male teachers. Yeah. Thank you so much. listen to the Toast the Melania Morning Show where we deliver the faster story

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