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Hey Jax.
Hey Turdly Lou.
Hey Turdlylist.
Good morning. Happy Friday. Happy, Jax. Hey, Turdy Lou. Hey, Turdy List.
Good morning.
Happy Friday.
Happy Fridays, you guys.
We did it.
It's very exciting.
This one is an earned Friday.
Don't you find?
Yes.
I cannot believe that this week was like,
White Lotus was like a week ago.
It was this particular week.
Exactly.
Our merch launch, like I was,
cause I was combing through the week to do Queenie and Weenie.
And I was like, damn, a lot happened this week.
I have worked hard.
It's been a week.
Correct.
I have worked hard too.
Redheads came out yesterday, finally.
It's worth the wait.
We're seriously hysterical.
I really enjoyed editing it.
So take a listen to that after you listen to this,
whether you
read the book or not, it actually doesn't matter because it's a book of short stories. And I was
really shook to find out that the Redheads chose a Lucy score book for next month, not to spoil it.
No, it's not a spoiler. Next month is Margo's choice. And I said, Sachi, do your worst. Like,
I want classic Satch. I was like, pick whatever like romance novel you'd be reading next. It's
kind of like what we need.
And I know it's what you love to read.
And don't feel like you have to pick something
for the redheads.
Like intellectual.
We want a snitch's choice.
Eight is time, especially after what we read.
And she provided,
I will be reading my first Lucy score book.
Will be-
Your first?
My first, I've never read Lucy score.
Wait, you didn't things in which we hide from the light.
You never read that one?
No.
Wait, that's really crazy.
That wasn't like such a classic book.
Everybody read that book.
I missed out on miss score.
So this will be my first foray into the score's world.
Oh, you're not ready.
She's like really crazy.
It's so crazy.
Not that I'm gonna read Lucy's score
is that we have to talk about it at a book club.
And I feel like it's like all sex.
So like, what are we gonna be talking about? So Lucy's score is that we have to talk about it at a book club. And I feel like it's like all sex. So like, what are we gonna be talking about?
So Lucy's score does a good job of
maintaining some level. Plot and sex.
It's not like the most plot driven.
There is a story, but sometimes you read like a romance
novel that's seriously like these two people are just
talking so that they can have sex.
Like there's no plot whatsoever.
And that's where it's like hard to read romance novels
because you're forsaking one for the other.
It's like either it's really good smut
or really good plot.
It's like, what happened to both?
Lucy Squire is definitely up there with doing it well.
It's not the most-
It's like Tessa Bailey.
Yes, it's not the most compelling book you'll ever read,
but like it's cute and sweet.
And she does good world building.
She finds like random places.
I don't know where this one takes place,
but she's always like taking you to cute little towns.
Okay, I love that.
And I feel like the Redheads community,
like we need a little, like we need a reprieve.
100%.
And I'm actually really excited
to just take a left turn with the Sag,
cause nobody does it like the Redheads.
But then you have to like sit
and talk about sex with your sister.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
Will be interesting how we do the book club, you know? Yeah, you know what? I'm gonna read with you sister. Right. That's what I'm saying. Will be interesting how we do the book club.
You know, you know what?
I'm going to read with you guys this month.
I won't be sitting and talking about sex with my sister.
Correct.
So it'll be interesting.
Especially like your little little sister.
My tiny baby sister.
No.
Do I look different?
Yes.
Why? You're wearing a different? Yes. Why?
You're wearing a pad?
Yes!
Oh my God.
You seriously are like so crazy the way you know my brain.
Jackie sent me a gift yesterday.
She's been telling me like I got to get on the sanitary napkin game.
Like she's actually been telling me that since before I got pregnant.
She's like, you know, all about bleeding out as opposed to using tampons.
One in periods, we can, you guys aren't ready for that conversation.
No, we are not. We are using tampons. But in periods, and you guys aren't ready for that conversation. No, we are not.
We are using tampons, please.
And true enlightenment is realizing tampons stink.
But Jackie talks about them a lot in pregnancy
and she's like been kind of begging me,
especially because I've been complaining
about how like underwear in pregnancy
is disposable at this point.
It's so annoying to have to change so many times a day.
Jackie was like, get a pad, get a pad, get a pad.
And I was just explaining like like when I think of pads,
I think of like my first period, you know,
and like the big thick wings, like the big thick,
like literally they look like, like old cell phones,
like they're huge.
Oh, made type ones.
Yeah.
And Jackie's like, you have to, you know,
deconstruct everything you think you know about pads
because they've
made enormous strides. There are really thin ones and whatever. And I was like, which one?
She was like, you know what? I'll send you like an Instacart. Like I'll get them on Target
or whatever and I'll send them to your house. I was like, great. I had forgotten that we
had that conversation and this big bag of snacks shows up at my house. My building's
always delivering like the wrong things to the wrong people. I'm like, we got someone's
Target delivery. And I opened it up. I'm like, so crazy that this person who'd ordered snacks
like has the same exact taste in snacks as me.
Baked glaze, baked ruffles, sour cream and cheddar,
bagel bites, Kit Kat, like so me.
Like that's so crazy.
And I was literally about to put it back outside.
And then I saw the pads.
I'm like, wait, this is for me.
This is my plate.
Literally.
And Jackie was just being like so sweet.
It was her way of like coercing me
into really believing the magic of pads.
So I'm wearing a pad today.
I've only been wearing it for like an hour.
It's uncomfortable.
Like it's just like this little,
it's like a dick between your legs.
Like I feel like a man.
Like it's just this big thing.
That's a tampon.
No tampons are, oh tampons I never know I'm wearing on.
Tampon is literally a dick between your legs.
Okay, no that tampon is like a dick in your vagina.
Yeah.
But a pad is like a dick hanging between your legs.
Well, let me know how it goes today.
I asked Claudia to do it for a day and block it.
She's, we're not doing that by the way.
We're not, oh my God, it was a joke.
No, but I said what I will do,
what I will do is when I'm done with it,
I will peel it off and stick it to the frame.
Yeah, because it's nice to have like a fresh
nether region every time you go to bathroom
or every two, like, you know how it is when you're pregnant.
There's a lot going on and like, it's, you don't even,
it's not, it shouldn't be a concern of yours.
And I actually fell into that lifestyle.
Necessity was the mother of invention
because of my sir cloche surgery
and I was on progesterone,
which if you've been on was on progesterone,
which if you've been on vaginal progesterone,
like, you know.
So I started wearing pads.
And then even when I didn't need it anymore,
I was like, I like this.
It feels like a fresh pair of undies.
Fronties, you love fronties.
I do love it.
Like there's actually no greater joy in life
than like either feeling gross or being out all day.
You take a shower and you put on a frontie, like a fresh undie, especially if it's like a granny panty.
There's no joy in life comparable, I agree.
I think you're gonna like the diaper phase of things too.
I'll keep you posted, you guys know I will.
Yeah, but keep me posted.
Thank you for trying something new,
even if you don't like it.
Of course.
Like I appreciate you listening to your big sister.
And being open.
Finally.
Finally.
So let's see how it goes.
But you look beautiful with your pad on.
Thank you so much.
It brings out your eyes.
I think you might be seeing the pad bring out my eyes
or I did do something also really crazy yesterday
that might've shifted the way that I look.
Share.
I went to acupuncture.
Acupuncture.
Yeah.
And was it everything everyone says?
No, like nobody told you like to prepare for being so bored.
I should have sent you an advance copy of the redheads.
Totally. And people were like,
so I posted an Instagram story from acupuncture,
just being like, I'm so bored.
And everyone was like, you have to put your phone away.
Like it completely defeats the purpose.
Like part of the treatment is like the mindfulness
and like really committing to just like opening up your body
to receive the moxibustion or whatever.
So I'm like thinking now I wasted my time, you know?
And I have two appointments next week.
So I will go in like more mindful.
A lot of people listen to podcasts, they read.
So I'll come a little bit more prepared.
Maybe a playlist.
Well, she was like, can I put on music for you?
And I was like, yeah. And I was gonna say like Taylor Swift. She was like, can I put on music for you? And I was like, yeah.
And I was gonna say like Taylor Swift.
She was like, nature sounds okay.
And I was like, oh yeah, that's perfect.
Yeah, maybe not Taylor Swift,
but I'm sure we could think of an artist.
Yeah, no, I need to bring my AirPods.
I brought my phone into-
You need Lewis Capaldi.
I just need something.
It was like 45 minutes.
Don't worry Claudia, we'll turn your baby.
We better, we literally better me
and my $200 an hour acupuncture.
Like the, if this baby doesn't turn,
he's gonna owe me money.
The amount of money I'm spending on like this nonsense,
it better fucking work.
Yeah, it's all the money you're saving on a crib.
No, literally, Jackie, the baby's gonna come out
and I'm gonna have an iPad.
Like, would you like to tip? 10, 15, 20%?
Whoa, Jers.
That's a wrong attitude.
No, I know, I know.
I'm actually like having like different,
I'm on a roller coaster of emotions
when it comes to the Breach Baby.
You're lying.
No, when it comes to this topic in particular,
like some days I'm like so beat down about it.
Like last night I was so upset.
And then today I'm like, you know what?
Whatever it will be, will be.
Yeah, trust the process. And whatever it will be, will be. Yeah, trust the process.
And whatever it will be, will be.
And you have a lot of time still.
It happens in a second, right?
In an instant.
Right, no it doesn't actually.
So I keep asking people,
no one's been able to give me a straight answer.
Like when your baby flips,
does he literally do a somersault and it's over?
Will I feel it?
So the acupuncture said,
and it was the best explanation that I've heard so far.
So I choose to believe her.
She's like, it's very gradual.
So any movements are good.
Like he's not like that mobile.
He can't do a full flip.
Like you're slowly turning and like making the belly.
Yeah.
So any movement is good.
And he was moving a lot during acupuncture.
So she said, babies really like acupuncture
and she didn't lie about that either.
So I'm like a believer.
I'm not super skeptic.
Okay.
Keep us posted.
So that's something that happened yesterday.
Something that happened today is our last day to eat bread.
I wanted to remind you,
because a lot of the snacks that you gave me were hummates.
I have to just like house them today.
What about the chips?
They're potato, yeah, but like the Kit Kats?
Wafer, rats.
Wafer, rats.
Megan.
And technically the popcorn.
Popcorn, I would eat popcorn.
I'm not strict about Passover.
Like maybe I should be more ashamed,
but I don't know why.
Like a lot of times like I feel guilt about,
you know, certain things in Judaism
and that compels me to follow it.
No matter, you know, like even if I don't want to
do Yom Kippur.
Guilt is a powerful emotion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm very driven by guilt and Passover,
first, I'll, you know,
I'm not gonna eat a bread, that's rude.
You're not particularly moved by it.
Yeah, I'm not super strict with it.
I would 100% eat popcorn.
Maybe not on the first day.
Talk to me on day four. Yeah, right, of course,
the rules change with each day that passes.
It's true, but you know, and I also have those matzahs
that I'm eyeing in my cupboard.
So I'm actually not dreading Passover.
But just make sure to like go hard today in the paint.
That's true.
I should have made a pargy loaf.
I don't know why, because Passover,
I knew it was this week.
I was like, oh, you know, put the starter away.
I threw away my starter
because I have like discard in the fridge.
No.
And I should have made one more pargy loaf,
but I guess it takes me like a few days to eat it.
So I would have had to like throw away a lot of loaf.
No, today is like this week in particular
and today is the day like we're going hard.
Okay, that's a good point.
I was actually gonna go out to dinner tonight,
but not in a homemade sort of way.
I was gonna get steak, which I could do anytime.
You should think about things.
Yeah, maybe pivot to an Italian restaurant.
It's also Coachella weekend.
Yay.
I actually am really looking forward
to being a content consumer.
I don't know if you know, like Alex Earl
and her sister took a private jet
and they're like staying in this insane mansion.
I don't know if it's a grand partnership yet.
Where would I see something like that?
It's a good question.
She's pretty good about uploading her TikTok to Reels,
but you know the algorithm will serve you in a few days.
Make sure, if you're looking for things to watch this week,
I'd like check her out.
I'm having the best time.
I need her to post more content.
Her and her sister are like,
seriously, my favorite content creators right now.
And they're just like crushing it.
So like, yeah, take that private chat.
Have you decided who's the Jackson, who's the Claude yet?
No, I was watching their vlog this morning actually.
And I'm sure we have it as a story
that they're on the cover of, folks.
Yeah, oh, turkey. So actually, and I'm sure we have it as a story that they're on the cover of, folk. Oh, turkey.
So, digital.
I'm kidding.
I'm totally kidding.
I was watching-
We do have it as a story, so if you want to just like-
I was trying to get their personalities from the vlog,
behind the scenes.
And how did that go?
Where they filmed it.
And it was good, I feel like,
I still don't really know.
Maybe I'm just, maybe I don't see myself in either of them or you.
Yeah, we'll have to dig deeper.
Do you know what I did last night?
Something I said I was gonna do.
And on my content plate, something I watched.
Nobody wants us.
Paul American.
My God, of all the things for you to cross off your list,
we didn't need you to watch
that.
You did.
Claudia.
It's so amazing.
Really?
I watched two episodes.
I think there might be three so far because I know like the next one's the gender reveal.
Oh my God.
I was crying.
I was crying when Nina crying tears when Nina found out she was pregnant and she's sharing
it with Logan.
It was, Oh, and when he FaceTimed his mom, Oh my God.
And like she has these like two sons
and they're such like big, dope stars.
At one point that you would never be a grandma.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Oh my God, she just like was speechless.
It was so cute.
I like the show so much.
It's so real.
The first episode is all about pitching the show.
It's like what they filmed.
It's all about the show.
They have a family meeting talking about
if they should have a reality show.
Nina doesn't wanna do the show
because she wants to get pregnant and she doesn't want,
she wants to be relaxed in her pregnancy.
And I also thought it was cause she was like,
high brow and everything she's done is like so legit
in traditional media and like, you know, reality show.
Oh, that's so funny, I don't see her that way.
Oh my God, I so see her that way is like so A-list,
so cool, like untouchable.
And she's so not what you would think she is like, in the same way Alex way is like so A-list, so cool, like untouchable and she's so not what you would think.
She is like in the same way Alexi is like so sweet
and with a face like that, like same with Nina Aguilera.
Oh my God, she's laughing all the time.
Everything Logan says, she can't stop laughing,
like crying, laughing.
She's so down to earth.
So is Jake's girlfriend now fiance.
Yes, she's the speed skater.
She's like an Olympic speed skater. Jules something.
Yada.
It's Jada, but it's Yada.
Oh my God.
I follow her on social media.
I've never heard her name said out loud.
Yada, she's great too.
And Nina eventually does get on board for the show,
but it's really funny.
They're very real and their family is just like so crazy.
I'm like Nina Agnew is just in the middle of it.
Like she dated Leo.
She walked, like it's just crazy.
I guess like she did date Leo.
That's really crazy.
But they're so in love.
Same with Jake and Yada.
Like it's so amazing how they talk about each other.
The show is so, I love so many aspects of the show
because I think they're fascinating
and they're so impressive and they like make so much money.
They are very interesting people.
And they just like, they're perfect for a reality show.
He's just like in the car trading crypto
and made $2 million in the car ride.
Like they shit money.
It's really enjoyable.
It's so jealous.
However, what's funny is like their bread and butter
and the things that they got famous for
and like what they do, their content,
it's so not for me.
Like when they're doing- No, not at all.
When they're doing like their Paul brothers thing,
like the pranking and like, you know,
Logan flies a drone.
Do they still do that?
Like a little bit, because that's who they are as brothers.
But like on what I'm saying, like on what content that's who they are as brothers. They're just like.
But like on what, I'm saying like on what content,
where do they put it?
Sometimes they're doing content,
but also it's just on the show.
So like they're at like a lake house
and Yutta and Jake are on a canoe in the lake
and Logan flies a drone over them,
is like swatting at them.
And Jake takes an oar and like,
like bashes it into the water.
And the drone is still working in the water.
They're watching the fish.
And then a bunch, they also each live with like 20 guys,
which I can't.
Which is so crazy.
Which is so crazy.
I don't think Logan does, because Nina lives with him.
But Jake does, because Yada and him are still long distance
because she's training for the Olympics.
All these, they get like search and rescue.
They're all in the water looking for the drone.
Like it's just like, it's so male humor content.
Yeah, it's very, it's very male focused.
So like I'm not their target demo,
but I really, really like the show.
And there's a lot of love,
but there's also like a lot of craziness.
Like the way they have such a love hate relationship,
it's really-
The two of them?
The two of them.
And I guess in the past, like when they were in LA,
it was really, really bad.
Yes, it was very bad.
Alyssa Violet.
Yes, exactly.
I didn't know about this. I thought it was really, really bad. Yes, it was very bad. Alyssa Violet. Yes, exactly. I didn't know about this.
I thought it was all like staged for YouTube,
but it was very real.
Like it started off as that,
and then it bled into real life.
Cause how can you not take offense at these things?
Right.
And they just like hated each other.
And now they have a really great relationship,
but they still really get under each other's skin.
Like Logan like just is constantly putting Jake down
just because he thinks he's a truth sayer.
Like he's like, I'm not just gonna like,
even on his podcast he was like-
Kind of like tough love.
On his podcast he was joking about Jake fighting Mike Tyson.
Like, you know, who are you gonna fight next, Mom?
Like, and Jake calls me, he's like,
you're delegitimizing the fight bro.
Like we need people to watch it.
It's true.
It's Jake's right.
You could say that to Jake's face and like around friends,
but not publicly.
So like they're getting,
there's so much better in terms of like
having a public brotherhood,
but they really insult each other
and hurt each other's feelings,
it's painful to watch.
I think that's also brother tings,
like we're not used to those dynamics
because we try to be sensitive to each other's like,
insecurities. We're girlies.
No, but like we just,
we would just never have a fight in the public like that.
No, that also is like a true,
only sociopaths do that.
Yeah, but maybe that's why they're as successful
as they are and they're down here.
No, that's why we'll never be famous.
That's why we'll seriously never be true successful people.
But it's really-
Well, you're a dirty whore.
It's really, really, I'm not even gonna respond to that.
It's really good.
I would really recommend it.
They're right for a reality show.
They're so fascinating.
And like, there's just so many, like I can't get over Nina.
I cannot get over Nina.
I know.
I'm glad that you weren't able to accomplish something
that you set out to do.
That's huge.
Yeah, and I'm gonna keep watching for their gender appeal.
They have a big fight,
like a fake fight in the backyard,
like a WWE match with one's pink and one's blue of
Like two hired wrestlers. That's funny. Whoever is gonna win. That's the gender. Right? Like they're so very funny
That's like so extravagant. They're so extravagant
They are something that I want to check off my list to do today, especially since it's before Passover
I don't know if you saw that the Kardashians did a collab with crumble cookie
I did.
Where like Crumble has like six new cookies
they release every week, like new flavors.
And this week it's six Kardashian cookies.
Kylie, Kendall, Khloe, Kris, Kim and Kourtney
all did their own flavors.
I've seen everyone talking about it on social media.
I'm like, I really want to try it.
I keep like wanting to try Crumble.
I haven't, I've actually had a bite of like a Crumble Cookie,
but I've never like, you know, done the whole experience
where you like try all six of the week.
And I feel like this is my week.
Yeah, it looks a little nauseating.
Well, it's very personal cookie flavors.
And Courtney is getting a lot of shit
for doing a flourless chocolate cake.
Like they also, they do cookies,
but some of their cookies are also like cakes.
They're mini cakes.
But I don't know.
Chris's is a cake.
Like after you're in your sugar coma
from Kylie's sprinkle cookie,
frosted topped sprinkle cookie.
You know that that's the one that I want.
Oh my God.
I'm sure this gives Courtney a heart attack.
Like the dyes and that thing.
Yeah.
And you know they're not using natural flavors.
It's red 40.
Correct.
There's red 40 in that box
and Courtney has to spit next to it.
The internet has pretty much declared Kendall's as the best.
It's like a chocolate chip chocolate cookie dough.
Yummy.
Also, I know Chloe did cookies and cream.
Everything Chloe does is just like good.
You know, her house did corn is good.
Agreed, she did a skillet.
It's a skillet cookie.
Her outfits are good.
Like she just has good normal taste.
Agreed.
She's a very normal person.
Kim did snickerdoodle?
Yeah, Kim's was really basic snickerdoodle.
Okay.
Chris's was a, I've seen it, it's highly contested.
It's either people's favorite or least favorite.
It's Adam Gottschalk's favorite.
Is it?
It's a yellow cake chocolate frosting,
which is like a unique combo,
yellow cake, chocolate frosting. Yeah, but basic and a unique combo, yellow cake chocolate frosting.
Yeah, but basic and good.
Oh, you know what, actually-
And you know what, like Courtney couldn't,
I'm glad Courtney did the flowerless one
that will sit there,
because it makes the whole thing feel really authentic.
Because if she did something like not,
then we would just be like,
oh, they're just slapping their name on it.
It was like when she worked with Boohoo.
Like she didn't bring the flavor to the box,
she brought the authenticity.
The authenticity.
And I think the box needs that
in addition to everything else.
One good thing about my acupuncture
is that it's right by a place
that serves grape frozen yogurt.
Now I don't wanna say the name
because it's like a New York institution
and they're also a family owned business
and I really like them.
I mean their ice cream is very good.
I usually get carob chips
when I go to this particular place, I don't know why.
But I got sprinkles.
And I just want to say they're sprinkles.
It was like literally having ice cream with gravel.
I was like crunching so hard.
It ruined my whole day.
I feel like sprinkles should be something
that you like give up.
Why?
Are they cancerous?
No, no, no, no, of course, like they have dyes in them,
which like most things do.
I don't know, I just have a negative association.
They're just like little sugar pellets.
They're just so stupid and they taste like nothing.
Oh, you're so wrong for that.
I just have, I have- You are so wrong for that.
I have beef between my teeth.
What is your go-to ice cream frozen yogurt topping?
Oh, like cookies and cream with Oreo will always slap.
Oreo is like always pretty much,
you know what I've been doing a pretty much. I love Heath Bar.
I love a Heath Bar.
In that vein, I've actually been doing a lot at 40 Carrots.
They have Reese's cups like chopped up.
That's fucking delicious.
That's like when you're being really fat.
Yeah.
And I mean, if you're getting ice cream, like be fat, you know.
It's frozen yogurt.
Like you can actually do it in a healthy way.
You could, but why would you?
I mean, I wouldn't.
I know that there are, I know people who get like banana slices.
Like, are you okay?
Sick individuals.
And then Reese's Pieces and M&Ms again,
like there should be no M&Ms on ice cream.
I don't agree.
I know we disagree, but the texture is wrong.
It's not an ideal texture scenario.
I will agree, give you on that.
But once you can get past that,
especially if you do mini M&Ms,
it's really a pargy crunchy treat.
No, it's like they slide on your teeth.
You can't get ahold of them.
You know what, don't sleep on,
most places don't have it except Tasty Delight does,
which is why I'm familiar.
We need more frozen yogurt places
to carry peanut butter chips.
They look like chocolate chips
but they're made of peanut butter.
They, a nice good French vanilla
with a peanut butter chip topping is so fucking delicious.
Yummy, yummy in my tummy.
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40 Carrots doesn't have that.
They need to work on that.
They're slipping.
We caught them slipping.
We caught them slipping.
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Our first story, since we dipped into it,
Alex and Ashton Earl are all smiles
on the cover of Vogue Turkey on National Siblings Day,
which feels like a coincidence, but a party one.
Yeah, I was shocked when I saw this.
Now people on the internet are so quick to be like,
it's Vogue Turkey and it's the digital cover.
Bitch, where are you in your mom's basement?
Like in my ass, like I thought this was so cool.
Yeah, you can't get to the cover of Vogue America
without, you know, stepping stones.
And this is still huge.
They looked so cute.
I loved that they did it together.
Without passing through Turkey.
Yeah, I do wonder if it was like,
they reached out to Alex
and she wanted to have her sister on
because it was really shocking
that it was the both of them.
Yeah. Like are the editors at Turkey big fans
of the podcast? of hot mess?
It's true. Right.
And do they have to go to Turkey to shoot this?
Where was she in the vlog? No, I watched the vlog.
It was in Miami.
Okay.
Yeah. And they wanted it to look like Turkey,
so they're on this like turn railroad.
Yeah, they're like,
just power lines behind them.
She has to get up because the bright line comes.
That is not indigenous to Turkey.
No, I do often wonder about like those types
of international covers.
Like Harper's Bazaar in Vietnam.
Right, do you travel?
I actually don't think you do.
It's if it's a part of like the Conde Nast bubble,
like they have teams here.
Wait, I'm cracking up.
You really think they wanted it to look like Turkey?
Cause like it is a random sort of spot.
I don't think it didn't look like Turkey,
but I've also never been.
No, I guess, but like the fact that I even thought,
oh, was this in Turkey?
Like I think mission accomplished. Right right because it was literally in Florida
But like if they if they're shooting it they didn't want us to think of this with Miami because they would have done like
More iconic of course each not this like fence or the park bench
I don't know if they're if Turkey is very fancy, but I actually think it's more like gilded
It's actually quite probably a little bit more similar to Miami than we would think.
Oh yeah, there's definitely like Gilded.
It depends more, but I feel like there's definitely
like farmland and countryside.
Well, there's farmland and countryside in every country.
I'd love to learn more about the topography of Turkey.
And even though the old girls didn't go,
maybe they could tell us.
What does it mean to be representing Turkey in this way?
So I do feel like there's been a visible shift
in Alex's content to being much more family-focused.
Even when she launched her vlog,
it was our all-family trip to spring break
in Universal Studios,
and now bringing her sister in on the podcast
and then bringing her sister in on the Vogue cover
and a lot of her vlogs.
I feel like that's been an intentional shift
and I think it's a great idea.
And now they're kind of doing everything together.
Do you think it's in service
of the Earl Girls reality show?
I think it's in service of they understand
they're better off together than like it being the Alex show.
Cause you know, you could,
anyone can be like a popular influencer,
but when you have like that family,
it's like the Kardashian thing.
Like it's magic when you have it.
And so I think that they're seeing that
and their stepmom has had a lot of success on social media.
She has a lot of followers on TikTok.
So they're all sort of doing their own thing.
And there is this like very organic,
authentic interest in their family
because they are very wealthy.
The stepmom and the dad have this very interesting
sort of scandalous story.
Everyone's attractive.
Everyone's good looking.
The kids who are like the blended kids,
the younger kids are very cute and like they love TikTok
and they're always doing crumble cookie reviews.
Like it's, they're kind of made for it.
So I think that they're really leaning into it now.
And I think also the dad managing her and Ashton
as of like last year probably had a lot to do with that too.
And maybe that's why they didn't want to be
on the podcast anymore.
But I've seen, I feel like I'm seeing the shift
and I think it's actually really good for her.
I think so too.
I love family content.
Me too.
And you can still be fun.
And she goes out.
Do you think they could be the next Paul brothers?
Like kind of, yeah, right.
For the swirlies.
I could see that.
Yeah, I'm down.
I like everything that she's doing.
These pictures are really beautiful
and it just highlights how they, like, this should,
it wouldn't be right now, but like,
if this were Vogue America, it would be an amazing cover.
Yeah, I guess like, I don't think if Vogue America
does digital covers, but if they did,
like this would be a great one.
Yeah, I mean, they would never like put Alex Earl on at the current junction, but like, if they did, this would be a great one. Yeah, I mean, they would never put Alex Earl on
at the current junction, but if they did,
it would be amazing.
Sometimes you see, you know, Harbors Bazaar,
Vietnam, and you're not like,
oh, that should be a Vogue cover,
but sometimes we see British Vogue,
where that just makes American Vogue look bad.
I feel like this looks really good for them,
and I can see them on the cover of Vogue.
I also feel like this doesn't put them
completely out of the running, at least Alex, to be at the Met Gala. At least the cover of Vogue. I also feel like this doesn't put them completely
out of the running, at least Alex, to be at the Met Gala.
At least the Turkish Met Gala.
No, but you know what I mean.
Like Vogue Turkey, you can clown on it as much as you want.
Not you, I'm saying.
Like I see people on the internet.
It is a part of Condé Nast proper.
No, I'm not saying you.
I'm saying people are.
It's just like, we just have to say Turkey
and it's just like funny.
But it's a foot in the door of Condé Nast. Like it's very real.
Some there are some like unaffiliated Vogue's like you can tell like they're
like spun out on their own. Vogue Turkey like is, is legit. Um,
and so I do feel like we will see Alex Earl at the Met Gala.
Why wouldn't we?
They always dip into very small amounts of influencers
and especially TikTok.
And she's really that girl.
She is.
I said that she should be there and she should be there.
Her and Nara Smith, I think will be there.
Yeah.
Representing the digital swirlies and I feel represented.
I love that.
Well, congrats to the girlies.
The pics are beautiful.
I'm happy.
Their mom must be so proud.
I'm happy for Vogue Turkey.
They had a great idea.
1000%, like flawless execution.
We love to see it start to finish.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
Some sad news,
cause Eric Dane has announced
that he has been diagnosed with ALS
and he's actually going to begin filming
Euphoria season three.
So Eric Dane is already headed back to work after revealing his ALS diagnosis. He will begin filming season three of Euphoria season three. So Eric Dean is already headed back to work
after revealing his ALS diagnosis.
He will begin filming season three of Euphoria on Monday,
just four days after announcing
he has the neurodegenerative disease,
which causes loss of muscle control over time.
He said, I feel fortunate that I'm able to continue working
and I'm looking forward to returning
to the set of Euphoria next week.
I mean, so sad.
ALS is like Lou Gehrig's disease for those who don't know. And it's
just like, over time, it can take years, like your body just completely decomposes and like
stops working. Use your motor skills, your ability to talk. And it's really hard. Obviously,
I follow Brooke on TikTok, who has ALS and she was on our show too. So I feel like I
actually know a lot about it from her.
And it's great that like he's still at the stage
where he can continue to work and he should.
And honestly, you for him being pushed back
for as long as it was probably really annoying for him.
Yeah.
Time is on his side, but this is so sad.
So sad and I saw he was getting divorced
from Rebecca Gayhard was his wife,
but they put their divorce on pause.
Oh, have they?
Yeah.
Oh, interesting.
I didn't know that he was getting divorced.
He's very handsome.
He is very handsome.
Kind of reminds me a little bit of like
what Bruce Willis is going through.
Like you could be the most famous person in the world
on the top show, but it's like a disease like that comes
and it just, like nobody cares that you're famous.
Like it's just, it comes for everyone.
What does he have?
He has dementia, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, really sad.
Really sad.
So this is very sad news.
And people love Eric Dane
because he's from Grey's Anatomy.
So he's like a-
Steamy.
Is he McSteamy?
And Patrick's McDreamy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
And they're both not on the show anymore.
I don't know about Patrick.
But I saw this as former Grey's Anatomy.
So-
Yeah, no, I don't think he's on it.
Dreamy's not on.
Got it.
So he means a lot to a lot of people.
Steamy.
Steamy's not on, but Dreamy made a cameo like two years ago.
Everyone was talking about it, do you remember that?
It was a dream sequence.
It was a Dreamy sequence?
Yes, a McDreamy sequence.
No, I don't remember that.
I'm shocked that you do.
Oh, you don't remember everyone talking about it?
I do.
No, I'm shocked that you do.
Really?
It was like the biggest thing.
It's like my job to know.
You do remember what you said about Peppa Pig
three weeks ago?
Because Peppa Pig is inconsequential, that's the point.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
Because Peppa Pig is disgusting.
Yeah, I said it like that.
I felt the intonation too.
Because Peppa Pig is disgusting.
No, I do remember.
I remember when he made his cameo. It was a really big deal.
Oink, oink, bitch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, and by the way, I like watched the clip yesterday.
Like now it's, I'm remembering everything.
And at least you got to experience it like as if you weren't the person who said it.
Like a viewer.
And you thought that girl was funny?
Yeah, she was a little fat.
No kidding. Listen, you're not going to stop me.
I'm not engaging.
Okay.
Disengage.
Disengaging.
So, Euphoria season three, are you going to watch?
I don't know.
I think that when it was on,
I felt a little old to be watching it.
No.
And now they've taken so much time, I'm 30.
Although it is, I believe I read that the next season
they jumped forward five years.
Okay.
Which kind of sucks,
because they left us in the craziest cliffhanger.
Like seriously, Rue, is that her name?
Rue, yeah.
Which is Zendaya's character,
like made one of the worst
fucking decisions, like it cost her her life.
And then you never found out what happened.
And now I hear that they're jumping forward five years.
So I feel like maybe Ru goes to jail for five years
and now she's getting out.
That's just a feeling I have,
given what happened at the end of season two.
So maybe I'm not too old to be watching it.
I'll just have to say if they are skimming,
because it's been five years. Like maybe I'm right on time.
Right.
Okay.
But I'm not like counting down the minutes.
I'll have to see like where I'm at in my life.
Do I have a lot of free time?
Yeah.
When Euphoria comes out or am I just busy?
Is that the vibe that you're looking for?
Yeah, the show used to give me the worst anxiety.
Oh my God.
You're not gonna be watching shows like that.
Yeah, that contribute like poorly to my mental health.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
Speaking of, speaking of,
Justin Bieber has quit Drew House,
his fashion brand on the heels of a confrontation
with the paparazzi.
Now, Page Six is calling it a bizarre paparazzi meltdown.
However, that feels very subjective.
Yeah, when I saw that, I was like, oh, what's he doing?
And he was just like yelling
and honestly spitting facts at paparazzi.
He was just like a classic celebrity
having had enough of the paparazzi for a moment moment.
Yeah, but like his shirt was half on
and usually when celebrities are yelling at paparazzi,
like they're not headed towards a good place.
It's always like one step before the haircut.
Oh, that's really funny.
I actually don't agree with that.
Why, who yells at them?
Britney Spears and the umbrella
and Kanye and Alec Baldwin and Justin Bieber.
It's hard with Justin Bieber
because I feel like he posts stuff
that's seriously so concerning, right?
Yes, yes, yes. If a friend of mine posted that,
like I would call them up.
And I would say like,
you might wanna take a look at this.
But then he like goes on and everything's fine
and him and Haley, and then just yesterday
they're at Spotted and Palm Springs,
they're going to Coachella, like everything's fine.
I know, I for one, I'm like not worried about Justin Bieber,
even though like you said, his digital footprint
is a little worrisome.
And yes, he did like yell at photographers,
but honestly, I feel like photographers
need to be yelled at,
and I didn't find that concerning.
No, I feel like I can think of a couple
of celebrity encounters where they just have like
had enough with the paparazzi.
Like Hillary Duff when she was being like
literally followed and she had her son,
and she was like, can you just leave me alone?
Like, I don't know, I feel like that's not an indicator of like a psychosis,
you know?
But, and again, he looks crazy.
I know, I just, I don't know.
I feel like he's fine.
And I also feel like the Drew House thing
has nothing to do with the paparazzi thing.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, so he posted on his Instagram,
he posted a screenshot of Drew House,
which was like this brand that he, was his Instagram, he posted a screenshot of Drew House, which was like this brand that he was his brand.
He's always wearing like Drew House clothes.
Smiley face, it's like merch.
Yeah, he said,
I, Justin Bieber, am no longer involved in this brand.
Drew House doesn't represent me or my family or life.
If you're rocking with me, the human Justin Bieber,
don't waste your money on Drew House.
Well, I think that's important for his fans to know,
like they might be spending money
and it's not his thing anymore, but what happened?
Cause it was literally his thing.
Yeah, didn't he invent it?
So what happens there?
I feel like there are so many red flags
and usually I ignore them,
especially when it comes to like their relationship.
Like, I'm like, look, you can't tell them nothing,
but I don't know why.
Like this recent spell, it's been like a few weeks
and I'm a little nervous.
I know, but it's like nothing ever happens.
I know, no, they're literally together right now.
There's a flare up, right?
He's unfollowing her, he's mental health,
he's this, he's that, they have a baby.
They're fucking fine, like I don't know,
I'm just not worried about them.
They're literally yesterday walking hand in hand
in palm trees. Looking so cute.
I think maybe he's like just eclectic and weird
and famous and rich, I don't know.
And yeah, I don't know.
I care more about Hailey,
and I think Hailey has a really good head on her shoulders.
I don't think she parties.
I think she's just really grounded in being a wife
and a mom and a business owner,
and she seems fine to me.
But how much can a person put up with?
No, I know, that's the other thing.
Everyone has their limit.
It's every week where they-
I'm sure her normal is so different
from what anybody else would consider normal.
I mean, it was literally this week
we were talking about Francesca Frago,
getting an email from an agency who's like paying
to have TikToks made about Hailey Bieber
in a negative way. That's a whole other issue
in her life.
I'm saying like her normal with Justin.
I'm sure it doesn't look like, you know,
dad comes home from work at five o'clock.
Do you feel like they're under a bigger microscope?
Like we critique their social media,
their outfits, everything because of like the Haley drama.
Like, I feel like they're not separate.
Yeah, I feel like they're not separate issues.
I like, we talk about them as a couple more.
And yeah, they put up like weird things that everybody does.
So maybe for others, but really for me,
like I'm seeing these two things as separate.
Yeah.
But also so much of it is lies, like, right?
How many times a year do we,
Hailey unfollows Justin and it all ends up being fake.
No, and like the lyrics about like the phone calls
on the wedding day of Justin to Selena.
And there was a story like two weeks ago of a girl who made
a TikTok being like, look, Hailey Bieber liked my anti
Selena video and it went so viral and it was fucking fake.
She made it up.
Like, no, none of that really affects how I see them.
Like, and even the lyrics from this new album that came out
that make it seem like Justin's in love with Selena.
Like I think Julia Michaels' ex is in love with her.
Right.
Like, so I don't.
Phineas. For me, I can separate the her. So I don't- Phineas.
For me, I can separate the two.
And I don't think most people can,
but I'm just saying, I think in their relationship right now,
he just seems like he's worse than ever.
But maybe he's not.
Maybe this is just-
Maybe it's just him.
Just Tim.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Until something actually happens, we're like edging.
We're always worried about Justin Bieber.
Nobody's fine.
No, yeah.
And I'll get to a point of like, oh, okay.
Well, that was nothing and it continues to be nothing.
So I'm moving on, but-
You feel like this feels different.
I don't know.
I feel like I'm like paying more attention right now.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
Maybe I don't know why. Maybe, I don't know why.
Okay.
So don't waste your money at Drew House
if you rock with Justin Bieber the human.
In the physical sense.
Is the moral of the story.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
Number four.
Yeah.
Gwyneth Paltrow admits that she regrets
not having more kids.
So Gwyneth Paltrow who has two children,
Apple and Moses who are 20 and 19,
with her ex-husband Chris Martin,
recently admitted that she wishes she had more children.
So she did an episode of her group podcast
and she said, my dad, Bruce Paltrow,
used to say the only regret he had in his entire life
was not having more kids.
And I felt like that for a long time, she said.
She told listeners that she began to feel more complete
as a mother after marrying Brad Falchuk,
who shares two kids with his ex-wife.
Oh yeah, she's also a bonus mom.
Yeah, so now she has like two more kids.
She said, in an ideal world, the relationship that you have
that your kids in works out and your kids never have
to experience divorce or blending families
or anything like that.
But a lot of times that's not the case.
She said, becoming a stepparent has been tricky
because it requires a great deal of accountability,
vulnerability, and understanding your triggers.
And nothing quite seems to trigger somebody,
especially women like a stepmother.
So she seems, she talks about actually like the growing.
Yeah, in the beginning of like having to everyone
get together, she said, what seems to happen every time
is that dad is in the middle, the kids are having
a hard time understanding and adjusting. They don't want to let go of the family dynamic
they had and the dad is trying to appease and play both sides. She said, despite the initial
hardships they've made the blended family work, it started to feel really light and really cohesive
and since then we've had so many moments like that, it keeps deepening, it's such a particular
kind of delight to see our four kids in their own relationships and being friends with each other
and loving each other.
Yeah, I feel like when it comes to co-parenting,
like they've got it down.
Like I know obviously it's not perfect
and you only see what people want you to see,
but just based on like her annual tributes to Chris
on his birthday and Father's Day.
And Dakota and Gwyneth.
It just, it seems perfect.
Yeah, and it's nice that she's saying like,
no, it wasn't perfect and blending families is hard
and that it all worked out.
And it was like nice, like a nice idea
that she wished that she had more children
and now she has two more children technically
and she has this big family.
She also, I feel like is always talking about her dad.
Like she's like a classic nipo baby, right?
Both of her parents are super famous.
I feel like her mom is more well known,
like she's a front-facing actor, Blythe Danner,
whereas her dad was like a TV director or something.
But she had, and when she lost her dad,
obviously famously, it was devastating for her.
Chris Martin was so upset, watching her be so upset,
he wrote the song called Yellow.
Like imagine, Gwyneth Paltrow is just seriously that bitch.
Like, I'm sorry, I fucking love this woman.
And so to hear her echo the statements of her father,
who's like such a deeply important figure in her life,
is nice.
And then for her, yes, to like sort of fix it,
weirdly, is really nice.
Yeah, it is really nice.
And I guess you hear people say that,
like you never regret,
you only regret like kids that you don't,
you never regret having more.
Yeah.
Like a bigger family.
How many kids do you wanna have?
I used to say like I wanted five,
but it's like now I actually have to do it five times.
Like if there was just like,
if we went to the grocery store, right?
Like, and you just like bought them.
I would buy five kids, yes, ideally.
That's your ideal number?
Yeah, because I loved being in a big family for,
and like maybe, yeah, one more.
Make it bigger.
That's how I feel too.
That's actually exactly how I feel.
I love four.
And then sometimes I'm like, well, more the merrier.
Yeah, right?
Five, like five was always what I wanted.
The practicalities of what it takes.
Jackie, I'm so close to the edge, to the brink.
And I haven't even birthed yet.
I'll be surprised, I'll be interested to see if you forget a lot of the day
to day pains and struggles,
because that's what the body does.
So that by the time like you're ready,
like you want to go again,
you're ready and you forget like a lot of the misery.
It's funny.
Okay.
It's the body's way of survival.
Plus you're a forgetful person.
Yes. However, and, and I experienced this where like,
I really for a while had forgotten how bad
the first trimester was,
because like you feel so much better
and then you just like move on with your life.
And you can feel your body like sort of protecting you
like a trauma response in forgetting about it.
And I literally will let myself forget,
I remind myself every night, I'm like,
we need to remember.
The North remembers, but I'm telling like,
eventually so much more is gonna be going on in your life
that like at night you're gonna forget to remember that bit.
And like, slowly but surely, like it will go away and you'll always like no. Yeah, the first trimester is rough
But like you will forget the ins and outs of it. It is also often a reminder that there are people who
Don't know that they're pregnant until they give birth like these like sort of crazy medical stories
And I'm just like I'm calling the bluff. There's literally no fucking way. No, it's so crazy.
I used to watch that show.
I didn't know I was pregnant on TLC
where they would like tell these emergency room stories
like dramatizations of like, you know,
they thought they had a stomach ache
and now they're a parent.
Like that's a concerning, you know,
that you could be so aloof to your own life.
Body.
First of all, you didn't get your period.
Second of all, like you didn't notice a kick of a queasiness.
For me, a TMJ, an IBS, a carpal tunnel, a coccidinia.
Like literally how?
A belly.
Like literally how?
No, that's like serious negligence.
Agreed, on bodily autonomy.
Yeah, really funny.
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Except for yourself.
Except for myself, of course're such a gamer. Yeah, I'm so generous, yeah. Except for yourself. Except for myself, of course.
Our fifth and final story,
Dove Cameron is making news on Armchair Expert.
So Dove Cameron, if you don't know her,
she's from Live and Maddie on Disney Channel,
but she's also from Descendants 1, 2, and 3.
I would recommend skipping 3,
but don't sleep on Descendants 1 and 2.
One of our older listeners,
she's like one of the most recent It Girls
to come out of the Disney machine.
She's actually the same era as Sabrina Carpenter.
Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo.
Olivia Rodrigo, it's like Smidge Lader, Peyton List,
some of these girls, they're Post, Miley and Selena.
Yes.
Some of you might've slept on them
and you were wrong for that because look at Sabrina
and I did not sleep on Dove Cameron
and now my hard work is bearing fruit
because everyone's seeing what I've seen for so long.
She also very famously dates the lead singer
of I call them Mainskin.
Apparently it's like a monoskin or whatever.
From EuroSkip?
From Eurovision, yeah, that like rock band.
Yeah, and they sing the cover of that song.
Yes.
Hold on.
I didn't know she dates Mainskin.
Okay, I'm not making that up, right?
And she previously dated Thomas Doherty
from the Gossip Girl failed reboot.
Oh, yes.
Tell Me Lies, the guy, Leo.
You guys, she literally invented him.
She dated him before,
because he played the pirate in Descendants.
Yeah, Dev Cameron's in a relationship with Damiano David,
the lead singer of Italian rock band, Mainskin.
That's really crazy.
And they've been together since, you know, 2023.
They do the cover of Beggin.
Beggin, Beggin you.
No, no, that's not the Beggin song.
It's not?
No.
You're lying.
Oh no, wait, maybe it is, maybe it is.
They went to the Met Gala.
They went to the Met Gala, he's really hot.
Did Dove go to the Met Gala? I think she the Met Gala, he's really hot. Did Dove go to the Met Gala?
I think she did.
Yeah, I'm saying they went together.
Oh, they, I thought you meant Mainskin.
Oh no, the other members of Mainskin,
we don't know them.
She's actually a long-term relationship girlie
because she had two serious relationships.
She's actually just talking about them,
how they were quite toxic.
And she's been through a lot.
So she's on Armchair Expert
and she's talking about, you know, armchair expert things.
And she was sharing how her dad committed suicide
when she was 15, when she started on Live and Maddie.
And it was just like a crazy time
and she's going through the details of like being 13, 14,
and 15 and like living with her dad
who had serious depression
or like going to visit him for the summer.
And just like these really crazy anecdotes
and she's also so well-spoken.
Well-spoken and like mature.
She's not like overly emotional.
She seems like really like healed.
Yeah and like thoroughly therapies
and she said that she's like,
I've excavated all of this in therapy,
like my personal family history and like going back.
Like at the time she was like 13, 14,
and her dad was seriously depressed
and she thought that he was mad at her.
So she would like try even harder
and he would just like reject her,
but he was like pushing her away
because of what he was going through
and like knowing, you know, what his plans were.
Well, and what-
Oh, that's really sad.
Yeah, so I watched a lot of clips from the episode
and I've never watched as many clips from Armchair Expert.
And I have to say like, I understand now why Dax Shepard.
You get the hype?
I get the hype.
He's extremely, I feel like the term
emotionally intelligent is overused,
but he interjects with, oh, he was like,
I imagine that would make me feel blank.
And it's like, yes, exactly.
And it's actually like, it's not-
Like a conversation.
It's a conversation, but he takes it deeper
than you would think.
And I didn't realize he was like so muscular.
Okay, well, so I meant to tell you this.
I thought he was like tall and skinny.
Last night, I very weirdly,
I could not find something to watch.
Me and Ben started a parenthood.
We only watched one episode and I can't lie,
I didn't like it.
Ben liked it.
But it,
Jack Shepard is the star.
Okay. So is Lorelaiepard is the star. Okay.
So is Lorelai Gilmore,
whatever, Lauren Graham,
and Mae Whitman.
And that story we were saying last week,
remember that Lorelai Gilmore went on Armchair Expert
talking about Mae Whitman.
Now I understand like how it's all connected
because they're obviously like lifelong friends
in the show and it wasn't like a big secret
that she revealed.
Like she obviously had Mae's permission.
They're like best friends.
What about Mae Bbe Fuenke?
Was she there?
Wait, so is Mae Whitman Maebe Fuenke?
No.
No, Mae Whitman is Anne.
No, she is.
Oh yeah, she's Anne, yeah.
And then Maebe Fuenke is someone else.
Is sort of like an unknown.
We, hold on, let me just, we need to put-
Whatever, all that to say, like,
I had never seen Jack Shepard act before.
I know him as like Kristen Bell's husband
and like a podcaster.
So it was very, you know, shocking to see him
doing his thing.
And yes, he is muscular.
Yeah, no, and he's got Riz, I would say.
Oh, were you like, it sounds like you were being dazzled
by Jack Shepard, dazzled by the Dax, Dax and Jax. Much more so than I would have. Oh, were you like, it sounds like you were being dazzled by Jack Shepard, dazzled by the Dax, Dax and Jax.
Much more so than I would have ever expected.
I just know armchair expert exists.
I know people love it.
I know like big celebrities go on it.
I had no idea what they do there.
I imagine-
I've actually also never seen a clip of it.
Like I didn't know what their studio looked like.
Yeah, and he has a co-host who also is-
Monica.
Just is like warm and compassionate.
Yeah, I think they get a lot of really good guests
obviously because he's really famous and like well connected
but because I think they like foster
a really lovely environment.
Yeah, and they know how to like have conversations
and get people to open up without prying.
Yeah.
You know, cause she was like,
I don't know how deep we go on this podcast.
And he's like, oh no, we go deep.
So it wasn't even him making her go, like she felt like she was going't know how deep we go on this podcast. And he's like, oh no, we go deep. So it wasn't even him making her go,
like she felt like she was going in.
She felt what she wanted to share.
Yeah. So I think,
I think the only person who would disagree
with what we're saying is JVN.
JVN like has a, like a horror story.
Like it's like his Roman Empire is the episode of,
what's it called? Armchair Expert that JVN was on.
But other than that, I think celebrities love it.
Yeah, I don't know exactly what Dove was promoting.
Maybe a new album, she makes a lot of music.
She did also do a musical performance on a Colbert,
I forget which one, Late Night Show,
that I saw pretty recently.
So she's probably doing new music.
Her music career has not gone off
in the way that I think it needs to.
She's extremely talented.
She's extremely talented, but yeah,
I've followed her for a really long time
and I'll always be a fan of hers.
I think she's great and really talented,
but I've just moved on, but I'm so happy to see her.
I feel like she's starting to get her flowers a little bit.
I've been seeing her more and more.
I feel like she's gonna have a very similar trajectory
to Sabrina Carpenter.
People slept on Sabrina Carpenter
and she was doing the most for years.
After Disney, after contract was up,
she just kind of couldn't get arrested.
And then it was this happy,
and then she also had that big scandal
with Livia Rodrigo, which made it worse for her.
And then everything sort of aligned and people started to take notice. And I think maybe that big scandal with Livia Rodrigo, which I made it worse for her. And then everything sort of aligned
and people started to take notice.
And I think maybe that'll happen with Dove Cameron
because she is supremely talented.
Yeah, but like the music has to be good.
Even when I was like a huge fan of hers,
like the music was always just like very art,
not what I wanted to hear coming off of Descendants,
you know, like very like dark and artsy
and it's just like not for the masses.
I don't know what she's putting out now,
but she has an amazing voice.
She's obviously very smart.
Actually the clip I saw of her performing
was like very dark and artsy.
Okay, dartsy.
Yeah, and now with the main skin boyfriend,
that's like so his vibe too.
Right, she's not coming out of that for a while.
No, we need her to date like.
She's not making bops.
But this is who she is.
Like even the way that she speaks on that, like she's not gonna be making. No, we need her to date like, but this is who she is. Like even the way that she speaks on that,
like she's not going to be making, no,
she's not headed to the one direction factory for timeless hits.
Well, let me all suffer. Yeah. But that's, I think she's, she,
she seems happy and yeah, she does well,
but I think she's making a lot of waves right now with this podcast.
And I'm happy for her. I'm happy for Dax as well.
Huge moment for podcasters.
That finally after how many years has been doing it
that I finally caught a glimpse of the show.
It's actually really crazy
that I've never seen a clip of his show.
His clips don't go viral.
Yeah, but also his guests are not our super swirlies usually.
Yeah, that's true.
They're not super swirly.
No, no, super swirly.
And the combos aren't super swirly.
I wouldn't even say this combo was super swirly.
No.
Should we dive into Queenie and Weenie,
our final segment of the week,
now that we've done the fast five,
and they were really pergy, well done.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, there was like six today.
I had to trim them.
So I guess you might have to wait till next week.
To find out what?
I don't wanna like tease it,
but like Jamie King did a podcast.
She did.
And guess which one she did.
You're never gonna guess.
And if I told you which one-
Keeping up with sports.
If I told you which one she did,
you might not wanna talk about the story.
And now you have to tell me.
Jana Kramer.
Okay, moving on.
Our final segment of the week,
Queenie and Weenie of the week.
One of my favorites, Jackie and I love to wrap up the week,
take a look at the week at a glance
and give out two awards,
Queenie of the week and Weenie of the week.
They're pretty self-explanatory.
If you act like a Queenie this week,
you might be Queenie of the week.
If you act like a big old Weenie this week,
you might be Weenie of the week.
It's a seven day title, it's not that serious.
Let's dive in, shall we?
Yes.
First up, Queenie, would you like to go first?
My Queenie is the person who was going to be the Queenie
of my last week.
And I said, if he is still reigning supreme,
he'll be at this week
because we didn't do Queenie on Meanie last week.
Yeah, we didn't.
And that is the coach of the Auburns, Bruce Pearl.
Oh, you're a little delayed, but I'll allow it.
But he made it to the final two.
The other coach who won is also a Jew,
but Bruce Pearl has my heart.
Brian Pearlman.
Boop, boop, boop, boop.
We love war eagles.
Yeah, he's also known as Brian Pearlman at this show.
And no one did anything to me that was more Queenie-like
because I was ready to realize that he missed his chance
at being Queenie and I know that would haunt him forever.
But he is still my Queenie of the week.
He lost with dignity.
I'm glad I wasn't in a bracket
because I would have put it all on Bruce
and I would have lost it all.
My Queenie of the Week is a little Twitter account
called Poo Crave.
They made me chuckle so many times this week
and then because we spoke about them on the toast yesterday,
they followed us on Twitter.
So now we are officially followed by Poo Crave.
And I don't know a lot of podcasts that can say that.
You know how they say like Peabody award-winning?
We are a Poo Crave approved podcast.
And like what that does, and for anyone who doesn't know,
cause I feel like people were confused
when I posted this clip yesterday,
you guys know the Instagram account,
excuse me, the TikTok account, my God,
Twitter account, Pop Crave.
It's like the yellow logo.
They do like all breaking pop news.
They share, you know, when people post a picture from when people die, like they do all, it's like a TMZ for Gen Z.
And then somebody made a Twitter account that looks just like it. They use the same logo.
Their username is not pop underscore crave, but poo underscore crave. But they format their tweets
to look exactly like the breaking news. And every now and then you'll get caught
but they're all satire, they're all parodies,
they're all jokes.
That's why the Belinda Zion incest scene
that I mentioned yesterday was a joke
but it looked like a real Pop Crave tweet
that I was like, oh my God.
So it's such a funny concept.
It's like harmless and I love it.
Jackie and I were also victims of Pooh Crave
a couple of weeks ago when we said that
Mikey Madison was playing Yoko Ono in the Beatles biopic
because it was a Pooh Crave tweet, not a Pop Crave tweet.
Yeah, Pooh Crave has,
I'm looking at some of their recent tweets.
Oh yeah, share them.
That Blackpink's Lisa is set to play Rosa Parks
in an upcoming HBO miniseries.
No, and like the world is so crazy
that you often find yourself thinking like,
this could be true.
I don't know if this is true because another one, this could be true. I don't know if this is true because another one,
this is another one.
I don't know if this is true and they're just like,
but Jake Shane predicts bossy bottom summer.
That's not real.
That's not?
Okay. No.
Tell me about this one.
Kesha's new single, Yippee-ki-yay has hit number 29
on the Icelandic iTunes.
It's possible, but I'm gonna say no.
On the Icelandic iTunes chart landing
her biggest comeback in years.
I just wanna say Kesha's new song is so good.
Have you heard it?
Singing yippee ki-yay, yippee ki-yay-yay.
Yeah, I've heard a little bit of it.
Bitch, I just got a renuga and tea pains in it.
And it's like a little country pop, it's very good. Shane Dawson is currently ranting on Instagram live
after his loco taco bell wouldn't serve him
surf him to read those loco tacos during breakfast hours.
It's that it's seriously so funny.
It's like a screenshot of Shane Dawson.
No, I know they make they format it to look so real.
Yeah.
So they brought me a lot of joy this week
and many weeks prior and it's time that they get their crown.
That is funny.
Okay, who's your, oh, I'll go Weenie.
Sure.
It wasn't a Weenie filled week, I will say.
No, mine was like something that came to me.
Like I've been like a hater of something
and I want to share what I've been hating on.
My Weenie of the week is Guy Talk.
Weenie like behavior.
Love.
Exhibiting through and through.
He's actually the definition of a weenie.
He's the definition of a weenie.
He culminated the season in a weenie like fashion.
And he's got to take the W.
I absolutely love that.
And I wholeheartedly endorse.
Thank you.
Your candidate.
Mine is just, I wanted to talk about this,
use weenie as an opportunity to talk about something
that I've seen that's really been bothering me
on social media.
So my weenie of the week is a trend
that I've seen people do.
And it's like, I'm sorry,
I feel like you actually might fall victim to this trend.
Uh-oh.
What is with everyone making their own bagels?
Three ingredient bagels, excuse me.
Like maybe I'm feeling extra sensitive
because it's Passover
and like I'm feeling extra grateful for bagels.
But I guess you could eat a cottage cheese bagel
during Passover.
Yeah, people making their own bagels
out of like cottage cheese in there.
And they're the things that they pull out of the oven
look like people's testicles.
Like it's fucking crazy.
It looks like organs.
We have to stop making our own bagels.
Like, especially if you're making them with Greek yogurt.
Like it's so fucking crazy.
It is.
I'm so proud to say I have not fallen into this.
I've not even been to ingredient bagel curious.
And what I also find weird,
I see people doing it who like, who don't make shit, right?
Like they order everything.
Like why is this what you're making?
It's not like they're people who like always are looking
for healthy alternatives, always are looking from scratch.
Like, oh, you know, wanna keto bagel,
they've been waiting their whole life for this.
Like, they're the laziest fucking people,
but they'll make a two ingredient bagel.
Jackie, I'm so glad you agree with me on this.
It's bothering me so much,
especially because they couldn't look more disgusting.
And what's funny is I actually feel like a little guilty
that I haven't done it,
because I'm like, I sometimes eat a bagel
and maybe I should have a two ingredient one.
Everyone says they're so good and fluffy.
Bagels are perfect.
They're so fluffy, right?
They're the opposite of fluffy.
They look like raisins.
But who do you blame for this?
And why is it Bethany Frankel?
No, you know who I blame?
The first person I saw making their own bagels,
like a year ago, I feel like his name is Bryce Harper
and he plays for the Phillies.
And Ben was showing me his TikTok being like,
oh my God, do you know Bryce Harper from the Phillies?
Like he's popping off on TikTok.
And he made his own bagels and everybody was like commenting.
And that was the first time I saw it.
And then maybe it was because it was the first time
and then I started seeing it everywhere.
And now it's just like a thing people are doing.
And I'm actually really worried about our sister Olivia,
because I feel like she's gonna fall victim
and like try to make it.
And I need to talk to her and tell her she can't.
Passover because what's the second ingredient? Flour?
People make their own, you can use almond flour.
Like you can make it if you have all your different
dietary restrictions.
Like it's seriously, at some point just have a salad.
Like it's not a bagel anymore.
Yeah, no, it's really, it is crazy.
But the baseball player making it doesn't bother me
because like that's like an athlete who's like,
has dietary-
Health conscious, I completely agree.
I wasn't bothered when I saw it
and he was being like cute and funny.
He has like this little TikTok show.
Meanwhile, he has like a $400 million contract.
Like he doesn't need to be doing this.
So like when I saw it with him, it didn't bother me.
Then I started seeing him like,
oh, this is a thing we're all doing now.
I'm not participating.
And you all are discussing cause I love bagels.
Yeah, I have definitely felt not pressured enough to do it
but a little bit left behind
that I don't wanna eat a cottage cheese Greek yogurt bagel.
Correct.
And then like try and make it into a bagel shape,
which doesn't seem easy.
So that is the best part of watching everybody's tutorials
is they make this cement sticky dough
and they're like, now we're gonna format it into bagels.
And they can't even get it off their fingers. No,els. And they can't even get it off their fingers.
No, but Jackie, they can't even get it off their fingers.
Like it's so tacky and it's so not dough-like
because it's not, it's literally like mortar.
Like, and to watch them be like, like, and make it into,
look how good that looks.
You literally made a rock.
You know what, literally it looks like ass
until they put it in the oven and it like somehow rises.
And then it comes out and it looks like an old man's ass.
They put everything but the bagel seasoning
and like they make it look like a bagel.
They think that EBTB is gonna save it and it ain't.
No, it might mask it, but we know what's in there.
Correct.
Well, I'm glad I got that off my chest.
I feel lighter than air.
Yeah, I think it will come to an end soon.
Yeah, someone's gonna get hurt.
I agree.
Because I'm gonna throw one of their bagels at them.
That's our show.
What a great week we are heading into Passover,
but thanks to the beautiful Jewish calendar,
Jack and I are back here on Monday.
No episodes missed.
No days off.
Even though it is still technically a haag,
like we will be working.
We should have taken off Monday
because it is like whole M08 or what's it called?
No, it's not whole M08, it's Yom Tov.
It's Yom Tov.
We're working on Yom Tov, tsk tsk.
So I'm wishing everyone who's embarking on this journey,
hats l'cha, good luck.
It'll be over before we know it, you know?
Yeah.
Have potato chips, have french fries.
Just remember, we have potatoes.
Yeah, and some of us have corn.
Right, and depending on where your family hails from,
perhaps if you're a little bit more Middle Eastern,
you also have rice.
I would eat rice and just take, you know, claim it.
And don't forget about the legumes.
But some people have legumes.
I would like rice.
Oh, that's where you're wrong.
But maybe a little crispy rice.
So good luck everyone.
Spicy tuna crispy rice, a little sushi.
I'm so hungry.
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